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	<title>Comments on: What about Garland or Sheets?</title>
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		<title>By: Gold Rush</title>
		<link>http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2009/01/16/what-about-garland-or-sheets/comment-page-7/#comment-643967</link>
		<dc:creator>Gold Rush</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 12:32:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Keep all them bums, Garland, Sheets etc, give me manny and we&#039;ll pound our way tto the championship</description>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jan 2009 13:07:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t get it...the exact stats cited by Peter to make the case against Garland, are strikingly similar to Pettite&#039;s last year.  Yet nobody here wants Garland, and many of you would take Pettite.

Both pitched about 200 innings last season.  Garland gave up 237 hits and 59 walks.  Pettite gave up 233 hits and 55 walks (238/69 in &#039;07).  Garland hit 8 batters, Pettite hit 7.  Garland had a 1.51 WHIP, Pettite 1.41 (1.43 in &#039;07).  Garland&#039;s second half ERA of 5.99 is not much worse than Pettite&#039;s 5.35.  Pettite certainly had a better K/9 ratio, but his .338 OBP against wasn&#039;t so great compared to Garland&#039;s .359.  

Aside from Peter&#039;s oversight in offering these stats to make his case, those in the comments should do a little stat-mining themselves.  We&#039;re talking about a fifth starter here, people...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t get it&#8230;the exact stats cited by Peter to make the case against Garland, are strikingly similar to Pettite&#8217;s last year.  Yet nobody here wants Garland, and many of you would take Pettite.</p>
<p>Both pitched about 200 innings last season.  Garland gave up 237 hits and 59 walks.  Pettite gave up 233 hits and 55 walks (238/69 in &#8216;07).  Garland hit 8 batters, Pettite hit 7.  Garland had a 1.51 WHIP, Pettite 1.41 (1.43 in &#8216;07).  Garland&#8217;s second half ERA of 5.99 is not much worse than Pettite&#8217;s 5.35.  Pettite certainly had a better K/9 ratio, but his .338 OBP against wasn&#8217;t so great compared to Garland&#8217;s .359.  </p>
<p>Aside from Peter&#8217;s oversight in offering these stats to make his case, those in the comments should do a little stat-mining themselves.  We&#8217;re talking about a fifth starter here, people&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Tex's New Best Friend</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tex's New Best Friend</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jan 2009 23:39:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wang isn&#039;t going anywhere as long as he keeps pitching how he has all this time.  Chances are we only have Sabathia for 3 years anyway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wang isn&#8217;t going anywhere as long as he keeps pitching how he has all this time.  Chances are we only have Sabathia for 3 years anyway.</p>
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		<title>By: hardwired</title>
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		<dc:creator>hardwired</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jan 2009 23:33:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>completely and utterly off-topic:  how much do you think McDonald&#039;s would need to pay Denver to change their team name to the Denver McNuggets?  A LOT, is my guess.

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back on-topic:  Why not sign Sheets, and simply use him late in the season?  If he only has a few bullets left, be honest about it and utilize him as the inevitably needed 2nd half fill-in.  If he&#039;s the fifth starter, his early season innings will be limited by the nature of the schedule.  It would garner much consternation, no doubt, as a vulgar display of fiscal over-indulgence.  However, 2009 is going to see one stacked team sitting the post-season out, and it&#039;s going to take shrewd and ballsy moves to ensure the Yanks aren&#039;t that team, again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>completely and utterly off-topic:  how much do you think McDonald&#8217;s would need to pay Denver to change their team name to the Denver McNuggets?  A LOT, is my guess.</p>
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<p>back on-topic:  Why not sign Sheets, and simply use him late in the season?  If he only has a few bullets left, be honest about it and utilize him as the inevitably needed 2nd half fill-in.  If he&#8217;s the fifth starter, his early season innings will be limited by the nature of the schedule.  It would garner much consternation, no doubt, as a vulgar display of fiscal over-indulgence.  However, 2009 is going to see one stacked team sitting the post-season out, and it&#8217;s going to take shrewd and ballsy moves to ensure the Yanks aren&#8217;t that team, again.</p>
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		<title>By: gianthinker (SIGN BEN SHEETS!!!)</title>
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		<dc:creator>gianthinker (SIGN BEN SHEETS!!!)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jan 2009 23:31:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Boston Dave-Joba, Hughes and IPK were rushed to the pros.  But once they were up the team should have had patients enough to let them struggle and pitch through their bad times.  Other teams let their young guys get killed and those guys learn how to pitch in the majors eventually.  We, as NYers dont have patients for that so we sent them down and of course some got hurt.  Joba we go from pen to starter to pen to starter.  Thats not how you handle these kids.  If you bring them up you let them pitch or you dont bring them up.

Now, as far as Sheets not being able to pitch through it because they left him off the NLCS roster is only because he got hurt within the couple weeks leading up to it.  He pitched 31 games for a total of 198.3 innings.  The guy had bad timing with his injury.  Had he had the same injury earlier in the year he&#039;d have gotten a 4 year deal at least and be one of the first guys signed.  Instead he&#039;s a pariah.  Now, the guy might have legit concerns.  I&#039;m not saying to give him a CC deal.  I&#039;m saying he&#039;s an ace and there are very few of them in MLB and we should take advantage of putting him in a rotation of CC, AJ, Wang and Joba and have 5 guys with ace stuff.  Some of his starts could be skipped to give him rest.  This is the kind of guy you baby.  Not guys in their prime condition.  If we can get him on a 1 year deal, and thats still an IF, then we should sign him even if his physical says his arm might fall off by the all star break.  At least we got the half season out of him that we didn&#039;t have to make one of the young kids do.  Hughes will be up eventually and I believe he has it in him to be an ace but right now we need to bring someone in that can fill our rotation.  Even if its not Sheets.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Boston Dave-Joba, Hughes and IPK were rushed to the pros.  But once they were up the team should have had patients enough to let them struggle and pitch through their bad times.  Other teams let their young guys get killed and those guys learn how to pitch in the majors eventually.  We, as NYers dont have patients for that so we sent them down and of course some got hurt.  Joba we go from pen to starter to pen to starter.  Thats not how you handle these kids.  If you bring them up you let them pitch or you dont bring them up.</p>
<p>Now, as far as Sheets not being able to pitch through it because they left him off the NLCS roster is only because he got hurt within the couple weeks leading up to it.  He pitched 31 games for a total of 198.3 innings.  The guy had bad timing with his injury.  Had he had the same injury earlier in the year he&#8217;d have gotten a 4 year deal at least and be one of the first guys signed.  Instead he&#8217;s a pariah.  Now, the guy might have legit concerns.  I&#8217;m not saying to give him a CC deal.  I&#8217;m saying he&#8217;s an ace and there are very few of them in MLB and we should take advantage of putting him in a rotation of CC, AJ, Wang and Joba and have 5 guys with ace stuff.  Some of his starts could be skipped to give him rest.  This is the kind of guy you baby.  Not guys in their prime condition.  If we can get him on a 1 year deal, and thats still an IF, then we should sign him even if his physical says his arm might fall off by the all star break.  At least we got the half season out of him that we didn&#8217;t have to make one of the young kids do.  Hughes will be up eventually and I believe he has it in him to be an ace but right now we need to bring someone in that can fill our rotation.  Even if its not Sheets.</p>
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		<title>By: Ham Fighters</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ham Fighters</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jan 2009 19:00:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>brandon r u the one who said eli better look out b/c of the qb the giants have on the practice squad?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>brandon r u the one who said eli better look out b/c of the qb the giants have on the practice squad?</p>
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		<title>By: Brandon (CC/AJ/Marky Mark..Sheets ?) Giants loss still stings trust me it does :(</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brandon (CC/AJ/Marky Mark..Sheets ?) Giants loss still stings trust me it does :(</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jan 2009 18:50:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#039;Also for those who think he would be blocking other young guys think again. Chances are if we have a jam in the rotation in the next few years Wang will be let go and then his spot can be for the “heir/s apparent” Betances, Brackman etc.&#039;

Wang is definitely a goner w/ Betances, WDR, Zach and Brack in the wings. And people keep forgetting about Christian Garcia.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;Also for those who think he would be blocking other young guys think again. Chances are if we have a jam in the rotation in the next few years Wang will be let go and then his spot can be for the “heir/s apparent” Betances, Brackman etc.&#8217;</p>
<p>Wang is definitely a goner w/ Betances, WDR, Zach and Brack in the wings. And people keep forgetting about Christian Garcia.</p>
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		<title>By: Brandon (CC/AJ/Marky Mark..Sheets ?) Giants loss still stings trust me it does :(</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brandon (CC/AJ/Marky Mark..Sheets ?) Giants loss still stings trust me it does :(</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jan 2009 18:47:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well everyone knows how I feel on this I&#039;d go w/ Sheets.

As for Nady...if he nets you Milledge when Lasting is probably playing the poorest he&#039;ll ever play and has great upside, I&#039;d take Milledge and few arms if possible for X.

Another potential is the Braves who have soured on Jordan Schaffer after the 50 game suspension, your not getting Gorky from them so forget about that or any other high end arm. The closest thing you&#039;ll probably get may be and it&#039;s a strectch but you throw in Melky and Kennedy maybe they decide to shop Jurrjens and that maybe would be extremely slim.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well everyone knows how I feel on this I&#8217;d go w/ Sheets.</p>
<p>As for Nady&#8230;if he nets you Milledge when Lasting is probably playing the poorest he&#8217;ll ever play and has great upside, I&#8217;d take Milledge and few arms if possible for X.</p>
<p>Another potential is the Braves who have soured on Jordan Schaffer after the 50 game suspension, your not getting Gorky from them so forget about that or any other high end arm. The closest thing you&#8217;ll probably get may be and it&#8217;s a strectch but you throw in Melky and Kennedy maybe they decide to shop Jurrjens and that maybe would be extremely slim.</p>
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		<title>By: GreenBeret7</title>
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		<dc:creator>GreenBeret7</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jan 2009 18:41:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CORRECTION:  straght cash deal....Not as good as a &quot;straight cash deal&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CORRECTION:  straght cash deal&#8230;.Not as good as a &#8220;straight cash deal&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: GreenBeret7</title>
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		<dc:creator>GreenBeret7</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jan 2009 18:35:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Messersmith was a straght cash deal.  NYY bought him from Atlanta for $100,000, I believe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Messersmith was a straght cash deal.  NYY bought him from Atlanta for $100,000, I believe.</p>
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