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Yankees sign Nady for one season

Posted by: Peter Abraham - Posted in Misc on Jan 20, 2009 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Brian Cashman is on vacation this week. But there are still deals to be done and the Yankees have agreed to a one-year, $6.55 million contract with Xavier Nady.

Nady made $3.35 last season, so he nearly doubled up.

Brian Bruney and Melky Cabrera are next in line. Assistant GM Jean Afterman could get those deals finished today.

 
 

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139 Responses to “Yankees sign Nady for one season”

  1. Tint January 20th, 2009 at 3:16 pm

    yay Nady. now get Bruney signed and let Melky walk away and play in the Dominican Winter AA league.

  2. m January 20th, 2009 at 3:18 pm

    Wow. That’s some raise.

    I’m on record on saying that Nady means a lot to the fanbase, but I want to see less of the ugly at-bats I saw towards the end of the season. Make the adjustments if you have to, because the AL teams will continue to exploit any weaknesses.

  3. Bob(The Original) January 20th, 2009 at 3:19 pm

    So much for him being tradeable.

  4. jay destro January 20th, 2009 at 3:20 pm

    great now trade him

  5. BBB January 20th, 2009 at 3:23 pm

    Big raise, but not so bad, he was due one and I did have him making between 6 and 7 whenever I tried to add up payroll in my head.

    For those more familiar with arbitration than I, is this more, less, or about the same than he would have gotten in a hearing?

  6. pat January 20th, 2009 at 3:23 pm

    SJ

    Papelbon avoids arb and agrees for $6.25. Less than what I thought and you guessed this morning. Bummer. I was kind of looking forward to watching that fight.

  7. The Dude January 20th, 2009 at 3:25 pm

    How is Xavier Nady making more than Papelbon?

  8. SJ44 January 20th, 2009 at 3:25 pm

    The Red Sox avoided arbitration with Papelbon and signed him today to a one year, $6.25 million dollar deal. Its the largest deal in history for closer going to arbitration for the first time.

    Good move by the Sox. That hearing could have gotten ugly. Papelbon got his money and the Sox avoid a nasty hearing.

    Arbitration hearings are never pretty. Its always good to avoid them.

  9. BBB January 20th, 2009 at 3:26 pm

    Also, now that he is making almost as much as Swisher (Swish makes $7, right?) this is only going to tip the scales further in terms of teams being more interested in trading for Swisher than Nady.

    The Yankees better not trade Nick. There are no words to describe what a boneheaded move that would be. Although, I don’t want them to trade Nady either, and I don’t think they will unless theyre absolutely blown away by an offer.

  10. Bill January 20th, 2009 at 3:28 pm

    Can players receive less money in arbitration than they made the previous year? Afterall, Melky played himself out of a job in 2008. How can he get a raise?

  11. BBB January 20th, 2009 at 3:28 pm

    “How is Xavier Nady making more than Papelbon?”

    Ohhhh, I dunno, maybe because he plays 9 innings instead of one or two?

    Also, he’s less of a spinchter-mouth. There is always that.. :)

  12. Russell NY January 20th, 2009 at 3:29 pm

    “How is Xavier Nady making more than Papelbon?”

    Papelbon is entering his first arbitration year, Nady is a FA next year. Wait till you see what Pap gets before his FA year.

  13. SJ44 January 20th, 2009 at 3:30 pm

    Pat,

    I thought he would definitely top 7, probably get to 7.5, in a hearing.

    The flipside is, he got record money and is set up nicely for either a long term deal with the Sox, or another big payday next year.

    These days, its always advisable to avoid arbitration hearings. They are getting nastier every year and some players really have a hard time with a team after the hearing, win or lose.

    I’m with you, I was hoping for a knockdown, drag out on this one! Oh well, that’s always next year! lol

  14. S.A.-Brian "The Ninja" Cashman: Showing free agents lots of love January 20th, 2009 at 3:30 pm

    Bit of a raise for X

  15. m January 20th, 2009 at 3:30 pm

    The only reasons I would trade Nady is:

    1. He totally regresses
    2. Matsui turns into Ichiro in the OF
    3. Posada turns into Superman
    4. Swisher goes back to his career norms
    5. We get something really good in return (like a Cal grad, nick?)
    6. last, but not least, to avoid having to deal with Boras. Besides which, I don’t see an incomplete player like Nady being in our long-term plans.

  16. Laura January 20th, 2009 at 3:30 pm

    Not sure who they are going to move, but my guess is that one of them will go.

    Pete, any idea why we haven’t heard anything about the Yankees talking to Andy? I mean, really – pitchers and catchers are due to report any day now. Are they really going to let it end this way?

  17. Laura January 20th, 2009 at 3:32 pm

    “The only reasons I would trade Nady is:

    1. He totally regresses
    2. Matsui turns into Ichiro in the OF
    3. Posada turns into Superman
    4. Swisher goes back to his career norms
    5. We get something really good in return (like a Cal grad, nick?)
    6. last, but not least, to avoid having to deal with Boras. Besides which, I don’t see an incomplete player like Nady being in our long-term plans.”

    You forgot one:
    7. If his looks start to fade.

    :P

  18. pat January 20th, 2009 at 3:32 pm

    Is this Robbie running in front of Ortiz? He looks bigger than Papi and at least twice the size of Edwar running next to him in that picture. His upper body looks a litle bigger but his legs look HUGE.

    http://www.listindiario.com.do.....4E30709C68

  19. vin January 20th, 2009 at 3:34 pm

    from last thread:

    “jd
    January 20th, 2009 at 3:04 pm

    Vin,,
    joe buck hater?
    why?”

    Because I have ears.

  20. BBB January 20th, 2009 at 3:34 pm

    SJ44: How much do you think Nady would have gotten in a hearing? Just curious.

  21. Laura January 20th, 2009 at 3:34 pm

    I don’t think that’s Robbie, pat. That guy is too big.

  22. BBB January 20th, 2009 at 3:35 pm

    “You forgot one:
    7. If his looks start to fade. ”

    Impossible!! lol

  23. m January 20th, 2009 at 3:35 pm

    pat,

    Melky?

    Laura,

    lol on Nady.

  24. jd January 20th, 2009 at 3:35 pm

    pat
    great, …
    robbie is officially on the andruw jones work out plan..
    say it aint sooo canooo

  25. Yankeepelotero January 20th, 2009 at 3:36 pm

    Pete, you guys need to do something about this site, its taking too long to load. Also, before I was able to access it from blackberry fairly quickly because it didn’t have alot of graphics. now it takes forever to load.

  26. Russell NY January 20th, 2009 at 3:37 pm

    That isn’t Cano, different facial structure.

  27. jennifer January 20th, 2009 at 3:37 pm

    It isn’t going to take only another million or two to sign Andy. It is clear he thinks he is worth 16, while no one else feels the same. The fact that his feelings are hurt is laughable. They gave him a standing 16 million offer last year, he wakes up and signs on the eve of the Mitchell report. Did he think that 16 offer was good forever? The longer this goes on with him the more angry I get. All that nonsense all year I want to pitch in the new stadium, picking out his locker there, saying it isn’t about money when clearly it is. Now according to reports he’d sign for less than the Yankees offered.

  28. SJ44 January 20th, 2009 at 3:38 pm

    I think Nady got just about what he would have gotten in a hearing.

    Its a fair result for both sides.

  29. Russell NY January 20th, 2009 at 3:40 pm

    “Now according to reports he’d sign for less than the Yankees offered.”

    Whered u see that?

  30. Laura January 20th, 2009 at 3:40 pm

    “You forgot one: 7. If his looks start to fade. ”

    “Impossible!! lol”

    Hey, you never know. Seen Robert Redford lately? Talk about not aging well!

  31. Zach January 20th, 2009 at 3:40 pm

    I’d call that a bargain on Nady

  32. jennifer January 20th, 2009 at 3:42 pm

    sj- said he’s mulling a lower offer from the Astros.

  33. S.A.-Brian "The Ninja" Cashman: Showing free agents lots of love January 20th, 2009 at 3:42 pm

    You forgot one:
    7. If his looks start to fade.

    ==========================

    LOL

  34. you gotta have faith (we are called the evil empire for a reason :) ) January 20th, 2009 at 3:43 pm

    noo there is no way that, thats cano, at least i hope not! lol wasn’t there an article on how he was in his best shape ever because they told him that losing weight will help him??

  35. Russell NY January 20th, 2009 at 3:44 pm

    Do we all feel comfortable with a Nady, Damon, Swisher outfield? With Gardner spelling Damon in Center for Defense and Damon moving to left.

  36. KennyH123 January 20th, 2009 at 3:44 pm

    Nady is a nice player and I like him. But he just had a career best season. He also swings at everything. On the Yankees, only Robinson Cano saw fewer pitches per at bat.

    Swisher, coming off a career WORST season, still led all of major league baseball in pitches seen per at bat.

    Taking pitches, walks, OBP… thats moneyball. Its how you win.

  37. jennifer January 20th, 2009 at 3:45 pm

    Maybe I misread. I can’t go back and check, must go back to work.

  38. saucY January 20th, 2009 at 3:46 pm

    not sure if that’s cano or not, but Ortiz looks like he may be faster than Edwar… and whose the guy that is in dead last?

  39. Wave Your Hat January 20th, 2009 at 3:47 pm

    “Do we all feel comfortable with a Nady, Damon, Swisher outfield? With Gardner spelling Damon in Center for Defense and Damon moving to left.”

    No. Horrible defensively, and IMO Damon will not be our everyday CF in 2009.

  40. Dave January 20th, 2009 at 3:48 pm

    i was waiting to hear the post about cash going on vacation. I hope someone is still around to meet with players because there are plenty of free agents left on the market and the yanks still have a hole. But i guess brian does have a cell phone and a laptop with him and that is all he needs to make a deal.

  41. Laura January 20th, 2009 at 3:49 pm

    I have no proof of this, mind you, but I think that Andy thinks that the Yankees should have rewarded him for taking one for the team during the second half. He was injured and pitched through it because we could not afford to have yet another pitcher on the DL. In doing so, he could have done serious damage to his arm (and may have – we don’t know). My guess is that he thinks that the Yankees should have taken that into consideration when they made him an offer.

    I will be extremely disappointed if he signs with the Astros for less than 10mil. He’d just be doing it out of spite and that is not the way you want to end your career. He also better hope that the ‘Stros don’t play the Yankees this season in Interleague because I do believe that he would hear a few boos if he came to the new stadium. I wouldn’t boo, but I’m sure others will.

  42. Russell NY January 20th, 2009 at 3:50 pm

    “No. Horrible defensively, and IMO Damon will not be our everyday CF in 2009.”

    Well then that would be why they are trying to trade Nady or Swisher. Maybe Gardner in CF with Austin Jackson perhaps coming up at the end of the season ala Ellsbury?

  43. pat January 20th, 2009 at 3:50 pm

    Emailed the person who sent me the picture for the accompanying story and it is Cano. His waist looks thin so it’s more likely his legs are muscle than fat.

    “El Big Papi”, Robinson Canó, Moisés Alou, Félix Pie y los lanzadores Odalis Pérez, Eduard Ramírez, Rafael Pérez comenzaron a entrenar al filo del mediodía.”

  44. you gotta have faith (we are called the evil empire for a reason :) ) January 20th, 2009 at 3:51 pm

    i really liked nady and i thought he was such a great fit, but if i had to choose i would choose swish, i actually would like to keep both but i dont see how that can work, and there is nooo situation on earth where i would like seeing damon in center

  45. Rebecca--Optimist Prime--Staying to write the story January 20th, 2009 at 3:52 pm

    Whoa Nady, nice raise.

    From the other thread, Dave, no one minds if you disagree. It’s just that you don’t need to post a dissertation every time you do…

  46. Dave January 20th, 2009 at 3:53 pm

    wave,

    That is ONLY a horrible defense if damon starts in center which he cannot because the defense in the outfield would be horrendous but if damon stayed at left, gardner played in center and swish in right that is a pretty solid outfield defensively.

  47. Patrick January 20th, 2009 at 3:53 pm

    “No. Horrible defensively, and IMO Damon will not be our everyday CF in 2009.”

    Of the guys on the roster a Swisher – Damon – Nady (left to right) OF provides the most value. If you are sitting one of those guys in favor of Gardner, the loss in offense outweighs the gain in defense.

    On a separate topic, according to my calculations the payroll currently sits at $197.3 million. That is with only 15 guys signed to contracts. The entire bullpen, minus Rivera and Marte are unsigned but luckily they all (except Bruney) make the minimum but will be given small raises. Hughes and Joba are also under control at a low cost but they too will get small raises.

    After all is said and done the payroll will likely be around $205 million. That is if Hughes fills the 5th starter spot and the Yankees make no more moves.

  48. jd January 20th, 2009 at 3:54 pm

    ‘I wouldn’t boo, but I’m sure others will.’

    mob mentality does happen with booing…but it is appropriate some times…
    let the final conclusion happen before we crucify him,,but his non confirmation directly about all the BS insinuates he’s guilty by ommission of any defense/comment..?

  49. m January 20th, 2009 at 3:55 pm

    Rebecca,

    I think this Dave is different from dissertation dave. Right?

  50. Dave January 20th, 2009 at 3:57 pm

    Rebecca,

    Did you read that original post that SJ responded to (somewhat) as it was originally addressed to you responding to your previous comment to me. SJ did not say anything about it being long so much as that I was wrong and did not know enough about baseball for his taste without explaining what I was wrong about or why. My point was that I dont mind if someone disagrees with me but the comment was written in a very arrogant and disrespectful way. Not to mention, that it explained nothing and gave no contrary opinion or information. To me, that is the worst kind of post. And i dont constantly write long comments – a few times a day tops. If someone does not like them. Simple, just skip the long ones. It takes all of two mins to read though and if someone, can sit here and read every single comment in this blog whats the difference if a few are long.

  51. Garym(Yanks and More) January 20th, 2009 at 3:58 pm

    I still think the Yanks are best served by keeping Nady and Swish and I think they will unless they get blown away by a deal.

  52. Dave January 20th, 2009 at 3:59 pm

    m,

    Same Dave. I dont think there is more than one dave here.

  53. m January 20th, 2009 at 3:59 pm

    Dave,

    Are you the med student dave? If not, then SJ might have gotten his wires crossed when talking to you about Ben Sheets.

  54. jennifer January 20th, 2009 at 4:00 pm

    A lot of players play hurt during the season. Mussina’s elbow was killing him the last few weeks of the season. I only know this cause his brother wrote it on his blog. Mike didn’t tell anyone about it. His brother didn’t know for a long time.

  55. Dave January 20th, 2009 at 4:02 pm

    Rebecca,

    Also, I was not disagreeing with him – He was responding to one of my posts with that comment and that post was not even to him – it was to you.

  56. gianthinker (SIGN BEN SHEETS!!!) January 20th, 2009 at 4:02 pm

    Makes sense. He’s making Swisher money now.

  57. jd January 20th, 2009 at 4:03 pm

    it always amazes me that hurt players are better than healthy back up players?! is the disparity between starters and bench that great?
    im a believer if youre truely hurt ( not just aches etc),,sit down…youre hurting the team…

  58. Rebecca--Optimist Prime--Staying to write the story January 20th, 2009 at 4:03 pm

    ““El Big Papi”, Robinson Canó, Moisés Alou, Félix Pie y los lanzadores Odalis Pérez, Eduard Ramírez, Rafael Pérez comenzaron a entrenar al filo del mediodía.”

    *Big Papi, Robinson Cano, Moises Alou, Felix Pie and the pitchers Odalis Perez, Eduard Ramirez, Rafael Perez began to exercise in line at noon*

    (literally Papi, Cano, Alou, Pie and the hurlers Perez, Ramirez, and Perez began to exercise to the line of the middle of the day)

    sounds like a photo caption.

  59. Wave Your Hat January 20th, 2009 at 4:03 pm

    From the last thread-

    “Varitek declined badly last year. He is less of a player than Abreu is at this point in their respective careers.

    Bobby Abreu is at least a productive offensive player. Jason Varitek is not.

    Despite that, both guys are still looking for work.”

    So how does this argue the Sox should have offered Varitek arbitration? Seems to reinforce my point and undercut yours.

  60. Al from BK January 20th, 2009 at 4:03 pm

    I love Nady’s bat and personality but he ran out of gas towards the end when the AL pitchers figured him out. So much for the trade speculation.

  61. SJ44 January 20th, 2009 at 4:04 pm

    Dave,

    We get it. The Yankees need another starting pitcher. We don’t need War and Peace on here everyday telling us what we already know.

    The issue isn’t the length of the posts. Although, you should employ an editor.

    The issue is, no matter who engages you in discussions as to HOW the business of baseball works, you reject everything out of hand.

    Its okay, its only a blog. However, you can’t expect folks to engage in discussions with you if you are only interested in one point of view…..your own.

    You don’t understand the game, nor how the business of the game operates. There are posters on here who do.

    My suggestion is to read them and look to understand how things work in baseball. It will help you when you don’t understand why things don’t happen the way you want them to happen.

    Ben Sheets is a classic example of this.

  62. Dave January 20th, 2009 at 4:04 pm

    m,

    I am the med student dave, the long posts dave and i think the only dave in this blog at least on a consistent basis. But the post was NOT about Ben sheets. It was about needing another starter and why we should just go back to the negotiating table with pettitte and give him incentives – it was not saying what the yanks should do so much as why they should get another starter – adding up the innings each pitcher could give us and all that jazz. The post never even mentioned sheets.

  63. you gotta have faith (we are called the evil empire for a reason :) ) January 20th, 2009 at 4:06 pm

    “the Sox should have offered Varitek arbitration”

    I thought they did and varitek declined and basically thats why hes in the mess he is in now

  64. pat January 20th, 2009 at 4:06 pm

    Thanks Rebecca

    I had that one right but you’re like my own personal Berlitz course on the ones I’m not sure about. :smile:

  65. Wave Your Hat January 20th, 2009 at 4:08 pm

    “Its okay, its only a blog. However, you can’t expect folks to engage in discussions with you if you are only interested in one point of view…..your own.”

    Actually, SJ44, I think you lead the league by a mile in rejecting opinions other than your own. not to take up for dave or anything, but he has changed his opinions based on other people’s comments, on the other hand I don’t recall your having done so.

  66. m January 20th, 2009 at 4:08 pm

    Nady has a personality? Huh. Wonders never cease.

    Dave,

    Apologies for jumping in, I thought it was another Dave and that was the cause for confusion. Carry on.

    Or better yet, kiss (fist bump) and make up. You make valid points, but as your elder I’m asking you to be the bigger person and drop it. Please. :)

  67. Ninja Burglar January 20th, 2009 at 4:09 pm

    Can someone reccomend a good book on the business of baseball?

  68. SJ44 January 20th, 2009 at 4:10 pm

    Wave,

    Just as Cashman assessed the market, The Red Sox did the same. The didn’t want to play Varitek what his arbitration number was going to be. That’s my point.

  69. SJ44 January 20th, 2009 at 4:11 pm

    Wave,

    Then you have a bad memory.

  70. Wave Your Hat January 20th, 2009 at 4:11 pm

    “Just as Cashman assessed the market, The Red Sox did the same. The didn’t want to play Varitek what his arbitration number was going to be. That’s my point.”

    But the Sox offered him arbitration, didn’t they?

  71. Wave Your Hat January 20th, 2009 at 4:12 pm

    “Then you have a bad memory.”

    Perhaps I do. Can you remind me once when you did?

  72. Dave January 20th, 2009 at 4:13 pm

    the way i see it everyone in here repeats things on a daily basis. Rarely do ppl change their point of view unless new evidence arises or an extremely strong argument is given and many ppl write posts that are of a significant length. Mine are lengthier than most but I do read other ppls posts and at times, take them into consideration. You cant single me out as the only person who is stubborn or repeats what they say – a huge chunk of the bloggers in here do both. Last week, I was arguing against wave and some others for resigning pettitte – i heard a couple of opinions and solid reasons backing them up and I changed my mind and realized it was worth it to resign him for slightly more than originally offered – of course, i read posts and think about them and if they present a good argument, i may change my mind.

    I just dont like it when you and others like GB employ a bashing of other ppls posts tactic just to be hurtful. It implies arrogance which is never a good thing to have in a blog. And no, you will not get me to change my opinion by bashing my posts or by telling me that I know nothing about how baseball operates which is flatout incorrect. I may know less than you but i certainly know some sincei have been following the yanks for over 10 years and passionately.

  73. SJ44 January 20th, 2009 at 4:17 pm

    Ninja,

    Any book by Andrew Zimblist is a great place to start. He does a great job breaking down the business of baseball.

    Jerry Crasnick, an ESPN baseball writer who used to be an agent, also wrote a very good book about the business of the game from an agents perspective.

    Those are great places to start to get a handle on the business of the game.

    Dave,

    As has been told to you time and time again, the Yankees don’t do incentive based contracts. They don’t like to add incentives to their deals because they feel like they already pay above the market and don’t feel the players need any more incentives.

    That has been the Steinbrenner way of doing business ever since he bought the team.

    The only incentives in the contracts are one’s in which they inherited from trades. When they do their own deals, they are without incentives.

    They just don’t believe in the bonus system when it comes to doing these deals.

    As far as Pettitte is concerned, if Verducci’s story is correct (he is entertaining an offer for less money from the Astros), it would seem the team and Pettitte have decided to part ways.

    Could be just more posturing. However, it does seem that both sides are moving on.

  74. Dave January 20th, 2009 at 4:18 pm

    m,

    Its dropped. I just wish some of the disrespectful tones and arrogant attitudes would stop as well. I make long posts but at least i do not try to hurt or belittle the other bloggers. What does that accomplish? And how does anyone expect to get through to ppl and change their opinions when they berate them? That is beyond me but It is dropped now.

  75. Ed - American League, prepare to be scared! CC, Aj, and MT!! January 20th, 2009 at 4:19 pm

    dave,

    as I told you before, go start your own blog and rant all you want. to start: blogspot.com! I’m not speaking for others but for myself, I’m pretty much sick and tired of you replying to someone’s comments with essays. When you post your “essays”, sometimes you don’t use the ENTER button. it’s a bit frustasting.

  76. Al from BK January 20th, 2009 at 4:20 pm

    I can’t believe the first game of the season is a 4 O’clock game. I might need to skip out early on work I can’t miss CC’s first start ;)

  77. SJ44 January 20th, 2009 at 4:20 pm

    Wave,

    The Teixeira issue for one. Glad I was wrong on it and I didn’t think the Yankees were going to dive in the way they did when the numbers topped 160 million. That’s the most recent one.

    Not that I have to give you a laundry list but, I’ll play along.

    I’m not going to throw out platitudes when somebody is dead wrong on an issue. If that’s what you are looking for, there are plenty of people on here who will do so. It just won’t be me.

  78. Ed - American League, prepare to be scared! CC, Aj, and MT!! January 20th, 2009 at 4:21 pm

    Dave,

    eh…you posted your “dropped” post before mines. so forget what i said but keep in mind, you should start your own blog.

  79. Dave January 20th, 2009 at 4:22 pm

    SJ

    Doesnt arods contract have some bogus incentives based on homerun records? Is that not considered incentives? And why would pettitte sign with the astros for less money after pretending to feel disrespected at a 10 mil dollar offer? Esp when he claimed he only wanted to play in NY, why take less money to play elsewhere?

  80. Ed - American League, prepare to be scared! CC, Aj, and MT!! January 20th, 2009 at 4:22 pm

    “I can’t believe the first game of the season is a 4 O’clock game. I might need to skip out early on work I can’t miss CC’s first start ”

    wait what…you serious? how you know?

  81. Bob Mac January 20th, 2009 at 4:25 pm

    I don’t see Nady has a lot of trade value at $6.55M when no one is offering Dunn or Abreu that much as free agents. Keep Nady and have an outfield bench for the first time in some years.
    I guess the Yankees think Berroa can handle third and SS in event of an injury. Ransom definately didn’t look like a shortstop in the games I saw last year.
    While the stealth game may be on for a starter, no one is reporting the Yankees are in on Garland, Perez or Sheets. I think it is Pettitte, the kids or the Johnson/Ponson type.

  82. m January 20th, 2009 at 4:26 pm

    dave,

    We all bite our tongue here. People surely bit their tongue as I went on and on for weeks about AJ Burnett. I finally realized that I was sounding like a broken record, so I stopped talking about him.

    SJ’s more connected than the rest of us, so when he talks we listen. But we take it with a grain of salt like anything else we read on the internet. He’s been wrong once or twice (cough-Teixeira).

    I don’t know if you know much about GB7, but we generally leave the crotchety old guy alone knowing that he’s dealing with health issues that we wouldn’t wish upon our worst enemy.

    I know we’ve had a laugh at your expense, but it’s because you’re one of the gang.

  83. SJ44 January 20th, 2009 at 4:28 pm

    Arod has a marketing deal between he and the Yankees on his memorabilia if he approaches the HR record. They aren’t incentive clauses. Its a true partnership between he and the Yankees.

    Re: Pettitte, Tom Verducci wrote in his column today on SI.com that he is “mulling an offer for less money to play for the Astros”.

    Whether its true or not, time will tell.

  84. BroNeill January 20th, 2009 at 4:29 pm

    Every team needs a bench.

  85. Wave Your Hat January 20th, 2009 at 4:30 pm

    “The Teixeira issue for one. Glad I was wrong on it and I didn’t think the Yankees were going to dive in the way they did when the numbers topped 160 million. That’s the most recent one.

    Not that I have to give you a laundry list but, I’ll play along.”

    SJ44,

    You didn’t come around on Tex until after he was signed, for crying out loud. Before that, my recollection is you thought people that who thought the Yanks would sign both CC and Tex were idiots who didn’t understand the business as well as you do.

  86. Gary January 20th, 2009 at 4:33 pm

    Joe Girardi will likely want to see what Swisher looks like in CF and 1st base during spring training in the event he’s needed on occasion during the season.

  87. Rebecca--Optimist Prime--Staying to write the story January 20th, 2009 at 4:33 pm

    pat: I’m wondering if I should start a blog just translating Spanish articles, haha.

    But seriously, it’s great practice for me, so if there’s anything else you’d like translated, let me know.

  88. kd January 20th, 2009 at 4:33 pm

    I have a question that I hope doesn’t turn into a bitter argument!

    Why not Orlando Cabrera for backup middle infielder? He’s looking at a one or two year deal for maybe $10 million. Give him Pettitte’s money, light a fire under Cano’s you know what, and have the best bench in baseball with O-Cab and Swisher.

    If he’s going to take much less money to start, why not take decent money to win?

  89. Laura January 20th, 2009 at 4:34 pm

    “Every team needs a bench.”

    Somebody call Cash and Girardi and tell them that because right now, our bench is nothing to write home about.

  90. Wave Your Hat January 20th, 2009 at 4:37 pm

    kd,

    A good back-up middle infielder should be very high on the Yanks’ shopping list. How do you think it ranks among (1) one more starting pitcher, (2) a better CF and (3) a better back-up catcher in case Jorge can’t answer the bell? I’d say behind (1) and (2), but ahead of (3).

    Can’t see Cabrera taking a back-up job, though.

  91. you gotta have faith (we are called the evil empire for a reason :) ) January 20th, 2009 at 4:38 pm

    nothing to write about?
    our bench is horrifying.

  92. Al from BK January 20th, 2009 at 4:38 pm

    ““I can’t believe the first game of the season is a 4 O’clock game. I might need to skip out early on work I can’t miss CC’s first start ”

    wait what…you serious? how you know?”

    Absolutely true Ed. Courtesy of Yankees.com needless to say I’m ticked these afternoon games I find to be pointless and not as exciting. Honestly who can make it to a ballgame on a Monday afternoon?

  93. Joe from Long Island January 20th, 2009 at 4:39 pm

    Re: Andy Pettitte and the Yankees.

    On the surface, it seems to make so much sense for the two sides to get together, I wonder if there’s something else, behind the scenes and not reported, that is a factor here. Otherwise, it makes no sense not to do a deal. To pass up $10M over “hurt feelings”…I don’t know.

  94. SJ44 January 20th, 2009 at 4:40 pm

    Wave,

    Actually, you are wrong. Pat M is the guy that sold me on the value of diving in on Teixeira this year. I value his opinion because he not only played the game, he understands the business of the game very well.

    I didn’t call people idiots for saying both guys can be signed. I said what I was told on several occasions from Yankee people. They had no plans to add both to their budgets. Obviously, that changed. Fine by me.

    I think you are projecting your own stubborness, particularly on the Pettitte issue, on me.

    I’m not as stubborn as you think. I just don’t believe in accepting an opinion just because it was stated. If you can back it up, using a logical premise, its all good.

    If its just fanboy babble, I’m going to challenge it. So will others on here. That’s the way this place has been since Day One and I see no reason why it should change now.

  95. Laura January 20th, 2009 at 4:40 pm

    “nothing to write about? our bench is horrifying.”

    Hey, I was trying to be polite (which would be a first for me). :P

  96. Ninja Burglar January 20th, 2009 at 4:40 pm

    Thank you SJ, I think I found my next read.

  97. Rebecca--Optimist Prime--Staying to write the story January 20th, 2009 at 4:41 pm

    Al, April 16th is a Thursday.

    But I think opening day games are always played traditionally during the DAY, hence the opening DAY part.

  98. you gotta have faith (we are called the evil empire for a reason :) ) January 20th, 2009 at 4:43 pm

    lol!!

  99. randy l January 20th, 2009 at 4:43 pm

    “I don’t know if you know much about GB7, but we generally leave the crotchety old guy alone knowing that he’s dealing with health issues that we wouldn’t wish upon our worst enemy.”

    m-

    leave the ” crotchety old guy alone”?

    why do i think that gb7 has forgotten more than you’ll ever know about baseball and life?

    judging by your ignorant and pompous self serving statement, i think that’s pretty safe to say.

  100. Rebecca--Optimist Prime--Staying to write the story January 20th, 2009 at 4:45 pm

    uh, randy, I’m pretty sure that was a joke…

  101. Ninja Burglar January 20th, 2009 at 4:45 pm

    I found it interesting that Yankees.com has Angel Berroa listed as the #2 shortstop behind Jeter, despite not being on the 40 man roster.

  102. WayneTolleson January 20th, 2009 at 4:47 pm

    Does anyone know what this signing means for the possibility of trading Nady or Swisher? I still think Swisher is more versatile and would rather have him. I think Nady over-performed last year.

  103. Buddy Biancalana January 20th, 2009 at 4:49 pm

    m-

    You’re right, that is a different Dave. Maybe they are both med students. Their writing styles are totally different.

  104. Buddy Biancalana January 20th, 2009 at 4:51 pm

    randy-

    What?

  105. parade of crooks January 20th, 2009 at 4:51 pm

    the nady contract was just to avoid arbitration. every club who has been considering nady expected him to get something like that amount from arbitration. so it has no effect on prospective trades.

  106. Al from BK January 20th, 2009 at 4:51 pm

    Rebecca- I wasn’t referring to the home opener just the season opener. I know that opening day is a tradition but its so darn inconvenient.

  107. pat January 20th, 2009 at 4:52 pm

    crotchety is a term of endearment when spoken of GB.

  108. Rebecca--Optimist Prime--Staying to write the story January 20th, 2009 at 4:57 pm

    Al: Ah, I see.

    Yeah, last year I was upset I was going to miss it and then it got rained out, but this year I will definitley miss it. Oh well.

  109. Wave Your Hat January 20th, 2009 at 4:58 pm

    “I think you are projecting your own stubborness, particularly on the Pettitte issue, on me.”

    Well, I disagree on that but I’m willing to move on if you are.

    My stubborness, such as it is, comes from this question: Are the Yanks good enough as is to win it, or do they need to do something else?

    My feeling is they could win it, but right now we are roughly even with the Sox and Rays. I’d like to see them improve, as would everyone on this site except for the two (Red Sox) fans.

    You think I’m immovable on Andy, but I’m not. If we could get a better CF, I’d be perfectly happy if the Yanks chose among Hughes, Aceves and Kennedy as the fifth starter and forget about Andy. But the Yanks don’t appear to be headed that way.

    But if the Yanks want a starter, who works for them better than Andy? And how doesn’t that give Andy some leverage? And if they got Andy, wouldn’t that solidify the rotation, reduce the risk from the kids and give them a better chance to win? And how is that not worth big bucks to the Yanks?

    Is this “fanboy babble”? I don’t think so, it seems like a logical argument to me.

  110. you gotta have faith (we are called the evil empire for a reason :) ) January 20th, 2009 at 4:58 pm

    Rebecca;

    you dont have tivo or dvr?

  111. randy l January 20th, 2009 at 4:59 pm

    “uh, randy, I’m pretty sure that was a joke…”

    rebecca-

    i read it again. i didn’t see any joke there.

    i think he clearly said he doesn’t take what gb7 says seriously.

    gb7 and i sometimes go back and forth insulting each other. we’re not always kidding either. we sometimes really don’t like each other. but respect. he’s got it.

    m?

    who’s m?

  112. Al from BK January 20th, 2009 at 5:00 pm

    Rebecca- Day games always have me in an uproar, first when I was in school all the time now its work!

  113. Ed - American League, prepare to be scared! CC, Aj, and MT!! January 20th, 2009 at 5:01 pm

    randy l,

    M is Mel.

  114. m January 20th, 2009 at 5:01 pm

    randy l,

    Do you know who you’re talking to? No, seriously! It’s me, mel. I hope you don’t think those things about me.

    Pat is correct, and I think GB7 would agree, that it’s a term of endearment. I hope he doesn’t take any offense to what I said. I do feel empathy for GB7 and his health issues.

  115. Ed - American League, prepare to be scared! CC, Aj, and MT!! January 20th, 2009 at 5:01 pm

    Al, where you work?

  116. m January 20th, 2009 at 5:03 pm

    randy l,

    lol. If you didn’t know who ‘m’ is, surely the part about talking about AJ for weeks would clue you in.

  117. Rebecca--Optimist Prime--Staying to write the story January 20th, 2009 at 5:04 pm

    you gotta have faith: Actually, I’m pretty sure I don’t have DVR. I’ll catch the replay.

    Randy: I think it was sarcasm. I dunno, in the time i’ve known M., she’s always had a biting wit.

  118. Al from BK January 20th, 2009 at 5:04 pm

    “Al, where you work?”

    In the city now, hoping to keep this job.

  119. randy l January 20th, 2009 at 5:11 pm

    mel-

    glad you cleared that up . sorry for the misunderstanding, but gb7 isn’t someone to not pay attention to. he’s often someone to argue with, but not someone to ignore.

    i’m sure your words just came out wrong,

    or i misunderstood them.

    no biggie. what’s the blog for if not to have some whoppers of misunderstandings every now and then. lol

  120. randy l January 20th, 2009 at 5:15 pm

    “lol. If you didn’t know who ‘m’ is, surely the part about talking about AJ for weeks would clue you in.”

    sorry mel. i was too busy reading and arguing with gb 7 to notice what you said about aj. what did you say about aj?

    just kidding.

  121. m January 20th, 2009 at 5:19 pm

    randy l,

    GB7 is an excellent sniper. I was just saying that we don’t get in the way of the crossfire. I didn’t mean that we ignore him like an crazy old man.

    Glad we cleared the air. Would hate to tell dave about you and your thing about Livan Hernandez. :)

    btw. Howard asking for $18M. I hope the Phillies offer $10M. Who does Howard think he is? A switch-hitting gold glover?

  122. GreenBeret7 January 20th, 2009 at 5:19 pm

    m
    January 20th, 2009 at 5:01 pm
    randy l,

    Do you know who you’re talking to? No, seriously! It’s me, mel. I hope you don’t think those things about me.

    Pat is correct, and I think GB7 would agree, that it’s a term of endearment. I hope he doesn’t take any offense to what I said. I do feel empathy for GB7 and his health issues.

    ————————————————————

    Just so you know, Mel, “The crotchety old guy” no longer has health issues….just inconveniences. And, you’re correct…I take very little in life personally, and even less on message boards. I can’t leave this world before Randy, because there’d be nobody around to keep him straight.

    Now, he’s the perfect example of “crotchety”.

  123. Mark in Tampa January 20th, 2009 at 5:20 pm

    Phillies offered 14M, according to CBSsportsline.

  124. sunny615 January 20th, 2009 at 5:21 pm

    Shouldn’t the Yankees be looking at a replacement starting Catcher? Miguel Montero or Salty?

  125. Mark in Tampa January 20th, 2009 at 5:23 pm

    Howard made 10M last year, so either way he will get a nice raise; maybe even more than he would have gotten per season if he was a FA this year. By the time he is on the market, the economy will likely be better and allow a monster contract for him. Looks like nice timing for the Howard family!

  126. randy l January 20th, 2009 at 5:24 pm

    “Glad we cleared the air. Would hate to tell dave about you and your thing about Livan Hernandez. ”

    m-

    glad we cleared that up too. that was kind of funny when you think about it.

    who’d dave ?

  127. randy l January 20th, 2009 at 5:24 pm

    “who’s dave ?” that is

  128. randy l January 20th, 2009 at 5:26 pm

    i’m just kidding . i take one look at dave’s long posts and i give up before i start.

    for all i know , we are in total agreement.

  129. GreenBeret7 January 20th, 2009 at 5:26 pm

    randy l
    January 20th, 2009 at 5:24 pm
    “Glad we cleared the air. Would hate to tell dave about you and your thing about Livan Hernandez. ”

    m-

    glad we cleared that up too. that was kind of funny when you think about it.

    who’d dave ?

    ————————————————————

    You’d never see me “Dave” on this board.

  130. Ed - American League, prepare to be scared! CC, Aj, and MT!! January 20th, 2009 at 5:27 pm

    randy l,

    Dave would be the guy that usually post essays about.

  131. Ed - American League, prepare to be scared! CC, Aj, and MT!! January 20th, 2009 at 5:27 pm

    -randy l, Dave would be the guy that usually post essays about.-

    I take it back. lol

  132. m January 20th, 2009 at 5:28 pm

    randy l,

    He’s the Ben Sheets guy. My whole point to him is that we all get stuck on certain players.

    re: the catchers. How did Posada go from wanting to play in the WBC to a question for the season? If he’s a no-go, I split between Jose Molina & Johnny Cash. The pitchers love Molina and isn’t that why we signed Cash? As a possible backup? There are no great offensive catchers out there. Take advantage of Molina’s defense and compatability with our staff. Although it would be funny to scoop up Montero. No to Salty, he’s not crusty enough.

  133. m January 20th, 2009 at 5:33 pm

    GB7,

    GTK. (good to know) :)

  134. randy l January 20th, 2009 at 5:36 pm

    “Dave would be the guy that usually post essays about.”
    ed -

    thanks, i’m going to go back and read what dave said today to cause all the trouble.

    i’ll be back with an opinion- in a while, a really long while.

    gb7-
    as thanks for keeping ,my mind straight
    if i die first, i’ll leave you all my livan memorabilia. i was trying to decide between you and nick in sf.

  135. randy l January 20th, 2009 at 5:37 pm

    “Dave would be the guy that usually post essays about.”
    ed -

    thanks, i’m going to go back and read what dave said today to cause all the trouble.

    i’ll be back with an opinion- in a while, a really long while.

    gb7-
    thanks for keeping my mind straight.
    if i die first, i’ll leave you all my livan memorabilia. i was trying to decide between you and nick in sf.

  136. GreenBeret7 January 20th, 2009 at 5:38 pm

    m
    January 20th, 2009 at 5:33 pm
    GB7,

    GTK. (good to know)

    ————————————————————

    Thank you M. Much appreciated. Just curious, though. Is the reason for the alias because you are on a spy mission with Secret Squirrel, or is this your new job…working for Q?

  137. m January 20th, 2009 at 5:41 pm

    GB7,

    I’d tell you, but then I’d have to kill you. And then Nick would be mad at me because he’d be in line to inherit all that Livan memorabilia. :)

    Have a great day, guys.

  138. Adam January 20th, 2009 at 5:48 pm

    M – we signed Kevin Cash, not Johnny Cash; just wanted to let you know =]

  139. Brandon (CC/AJ/Marky Mark..Sheets ?) Giants loss still stings trust me it does :( January 20th, 2009 at 6:07 pm

    In that listin diario pic of Robi is him but he’s not fat or skinny, the guy is in crazy shape this yr., I have never seen him that trim and not fat.

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