Ask Joba a question yourself
Posted by: Peter Abraham - Posted in Misc on Jan 21, 2009 
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Tickets remain available for Tuesday’s event at Sacred Heart University in Connecticut featuring Joba Chamberlain and Jon Lester.
Here is the release:
Joba Chamberlain, 23, of the New York Yankees and Jon Lester, 24, of the Boston Red Sox will share the spotlight at Sacred Heart University on Tuesday, January 27th, 2009. The two pitchers will take part in a “Hot Stove Conversation” in the William H. Pitt Health and Recreation Center on campus at 8 P.M.
Tickets, which will be available after December 3rd, will be $20, with children under 12 admitted for half-price. SHU students are $5 and staff members, $10. Those in attendance are invited to suit up for the occasion and support their favorite team. To purchase tickets, contact Pam Barnum at 203-371-7846 or barnump@sacredheart.edu.
The University has recently hosted such well known speakers as former New York City Mayor and presidential candidate, Rudy Giuliani, and Pulitzer Prize-winning historian, Doris Kearns Goodwin.
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I’m curious to see if Joba’s personality changes in the wake of his DWI arrest. I personally like him. He has a lot of energy, he talks to everybody and he’s competitive like a football player when he takes the mound.
But you can argue that it was too much, too soon for Joba in terms of his popularity and the arrest was a culmination of his living too fast. He never got arrogant but he was a little cocky and there were a few occasions when he slipped into the third person when doing interviews. Some of the old-school guys on the team found it amusing.
I look at this way: He was 21 when he made the big leagues and most of us did a lot of things we regret when we were that age. What matters is how events shape you moving forward.
Joba is one of the most important players on the team because, in time, he can be the best starter in the game. He has a chance to be that good. It’s a big part of what will make 2009 so interesting.
I am sure he will be fine
Joba Rulz!
Joba shouldn’t change a thing, thats who he is a competitor. Joba is a fantastic pitcher who has superior stuff and he knows it. I think its funny that only Yankees who get pumped up on the field are judged by the media.
“Mr. Chamberlain, what do you think of Andy Pettitte? Is he a bad teammate? Do you want him back?”
Well said, Pete … I’ll drink to that.
Al:
I would think he would want to stop drinking and driving.
m:
And he’s never going to rip Andy. They have the same agent and they’re great friends.
Hopefully Joba is hitting the gym, he looked fat as hell in that video from the CES show in Las Vegas.
I’m going to this with two of my Red Sox friends. One was pretending to be Lester “Aside from beating cancer, winning a world series, and throwing a no hitter, that’s it. And now I’ll turn it over to you Joba.”
Anyone want to wager on the over/under on how many times someone will ask if he likes starting or relieving better??
Peter,
OMG. That was a joke. We had a discussion in the last thread about how his negotiation will rip apart the clubhouse. Keep up!
The ‘compromising’ things we most regret doing when we’re that age are the oness we were caught doing.
We’re still wiser from the things we should’ve been caught doing but didn’t. We just don’t regret them as much as if we’d gotten caught. Lots of people have gotten away with something at some point in their lives.
Would like to attend… I think in 3 years we will look at these two young men as the top two pitchers in the AL..
Marc, I think it was more a matter of Joba’s shirt being one size too small in that video clip. His uniform fits but that shirt sure didn’t. He looked the same as he did last year to me.
Hopefully, he can learn from guys like CC, Mo and Burnett, as can Hughes, Kennedy and the rest of the kids. They are kids and will learn with time. Maybe having more vocal team leaders will help. From all I’ve read Moose and Andy weren’t big vocal leaders, and it sounds like CC is the guy that can change that.
We just need him/them to come into camp healthy, in shape and ready to listen and learn.
Even a player at the league minimum salary can afford a taxi home if he goes out & ties one on every single night of the year.
Guys will still get bombed. And when he does, Joba just has to think & remember to take a taxi if someone else isn’t driving. Just like everyone else.
Has Joba met Jim Leyritz?
Methinks Joba will be alright.
Pete, I agree he is a good kid, i met him down in Trenton right before he got called up to the Yanks. He was great signing autographs for everyone and really talking to us. He did get too much too soon though and hopefully that DUI is a slap of reality and he will be better for it now. I agree we all know how many dumb things we did when we were that age without being famous or having the spotlight on us, so he deserves all of the support and hopefully he doesn’t change who he is.
Not many taxis in the middle of Nebraska…
That’s no excuse though, there is always a way to find someone sober to drive you home.
Hopefully Joba’s dad will be able to correct any off-field behavorial issues as he seems to be a hands-on type of father and Joba seems to really look uo and repect him.
Outside of that I just hope his shoulder is and remains healthy because he’s just an exciting guy ro watch.
The game in Fenway against Beckett when giambi hit that game winning squib to short…. probably the best game of 2008.
Oh the hopes were high that weekend ladies and germs.
Was it the small shirt that made him look fat or did the fact that he has a sizely gut make the shirt look too small?
I’ve never heard of a shirt causing your stomach to look big. Is that the padded bra effect?
It’s not like Joba doesn’t have weight issues.
“Al:
I would think he would want to stop drinking and driving.”
Obviously Pete. However his on-field behavior is fine by me I am sick of the Francesa/ESPN types taking Joba apart just based on his theatrics. A lot of players act like that however only he gets ridiculed, what about Boston’s 6 million dollar man Papelbon? You’ve seen him pumping his fist and staring with a puckered face on at the batter then irish dancing after a strike-out.
I just want to know what the over/under is going to be on Joba fist pumps on the mound this year? I would guess 8.
SOS
I would like the over for the max
Whats all this Joba fat talk about? Maybe he just doesnt want C.C. to one up him on jersey size. Can someone put a link to the Baby Huey look?
“I just want to know what the over/under is going to be on Joba fist pumps on the mound this year? I would guess 8.”
jeez I’d hope it’s more than 8!
I’d like him to stop throwing at Youk’s bean though. We’d be absolutely livid if it was one of their’s targeting one of ours.
S.o.S. … Assuming the fist pumps are coming after strikeouts, and you’re talking in terms of a per-game average number, then I’m hoping for that number to be at least 8.
People complaining about his fist pump have nothing else better to do and frankly, Joba shouldn’t worry about then. Other guys pump their fists too. B.F.D.
Joba doesn’t seem to mean anything personal by it. People looking to be critical of that sort of thing should be taking issue with some other players’ fist-pumping or antics. With Joba it appears to me that it’s just his enthusiasm.
“I’d like him to stop throwing at Youk’s bean though. We’d be absolutely livid if it was one of their’s targeting one of ours.”
Joba has said time and time again that he didnt do it intentially. Why would he lie about it? Id say its just a big coincedence that it always happens when that ugly noggin steps up to the plate. Yes. coincedence.
Ansky,
Do you have a problem with Papplebon or Krod doing their version? Or is a fist pump o.k. as long as their is no screaming involved/staring down the opponent?
I hope it’s not this Baby Huey!
http://tinyurl.com/5ax872
I’ve come to the conclusion that no one will change anyones mind regarding Andy.
There is a group of us who think Andy is being very selfish and dishonest.
There are some that wouldn’t have a problem if he went to the Astros for less money because it would be closer to home.
No one will change my mind about what I feel about him. And at this point I don’t think I will change anyone’s mind about how they feel about him.
“I hope it’s not this Baby Huey!”
No not C.C. Bronx Jeers, send me one of Jobas latest look.
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GreenBeret7
January 21st, 2009 at 1:25 pm
S.o.S.
January 21st, 2009 at 1:07 pm
GB7,
Being that you were in attendence for the 27 Yanks and later. Who would be your pick?
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Well, at least you didn’t assume that I was playing third base at Elysian Fields in Hoboken in 1839 for the first baseball game, so, I’ll answer.
Seriously, it’s difficult for me to say, because I can only see the numbers, but, those ‘36-’38 teams would be tough to beat. Still, I have to pick the ‘27 or ‘61 Yankees. Those teams had everything.
i am a huge joba fan, hopefully he’s still the same person just a bit wiser. he has all the potential in the world, hopefully he doesn’t waste it.
i think relievers have way more opportunities to pump their fists than starters.
i also think Mike Francessa has been lobbying for Joba to go back into the bullpen so that he can rip him more often for fist pumping… He doesn’t actaully think it would be more beneficial to the team.
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randy l
January 21st, 2009 at 1:36 pm
“Still, I have to pick the ‘27 or ‘61 Yankees. Those teams had everything.”
gb7-
i’m going with mantle and maris, but i’ll ask my father who watched watched both of them in person at yankee stadium.
that’ll actually be a very nice topic of conversation the next time i talk with him. he always has some interesting insights. the funniest things he does though is the nicknames he has for the red sox players. “useless” is my favorite. he cracks up red sox friends here on the cape when he visits and does his “useless” batting impersonation of youkillis.
i think surprisingly he’s going to go with 1961, but we’ll see.
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It’s such a pity to not have full games of the teams and players on video from back then….to really get a pespective on just how great some of them were. You can read numbers and first hand accounts, but, seeing them is the key. That’s why I always hesitate to judge players/teams that I don’t have enough video to see. I go only back to the ‘55 and 56 seasons, when we got our first TV and I remember th games being televised. The area I grew up in only got the “Game Of The Week”, the Tigers, Cubs, White Sox and on occasion the Braves in Milwaukee. That still gave me a decent perspective on a lot of players.
I’ve got to go with the ‘61 yanks of teams I’ve seen, though. Six pitchers with 10 or more wins, 6 players with 20 or more homers, great defense…hard to pick against that.
My grandfather was a huge baseball fan, and played semi-pro ball for the mine teams around Terre Haute, Indiana and played ball with Tommy John’s father, so he took me to a lot of games in thoe cities and Cleveland. He had become friends of Johnny Beradino, who was a shortstop for the Browns and Indians for about 12 years, and they kept in touch over the years. He about stroked out the first time my grandmother turned on General Hospital one day and Johnny Beradino was playing Dr. Steve Hardy.
GB7,
Havnt heard any hype for those 36-38 Yanks teams. What made them possibly better than the 27/61 teams and why arent they ever mentioned?
You think those pitching staffs would have stopped the high powered 70′s Reds offense?
S.o.S.
As for K-Rod, I haven’t watched him enough. As for Papsmear I’m biased against him because he’s on the Sox.
Generally speaking though, if a pitcher points directly at the batter he just stuck out, and looks directly at, yells directly at & pumps his fist directly at the batter, there’s a chance he’s showing the batter up a little. If the pitcher says something to the batter about the batters momma or sister, I tend to think he might be taking it to a more personal level.
Pitchers who just pump their fist and yell out wherever they happen to be facing don’t appear to be showing someone up.
I’m going to that! If you see me, you should totally stop by and say hi!
Yes, Joba does have a bit of a “football mentality”, and is a bit high strung, with the fist pumping, etc. He’s also a maximum effort type of pitcher, using every ounce of his ability on every pitch.
All of those attributes make him a sensational late inning relief option, which is what he was in 07 and what he was incredibly successful at doing.
Unfortunately, those are poor attributes for a starting pitcher, and he quickly developed arm problems when he was starting last year, and despite what most believe, might be much better off in the pen.
Interesting to see Joba and Jon Lester teaming up at this event.
IMO, two of the best young pitchers in the game today.
Bronx Jeers
January 21st, 2009 at 1:33 pm
“I just want to know what the over/under is going to be on Joba fist pumps on the mound this year? I would guess 8.”
jeez I’d hope it’s more than 8!
I’d like him to stop throwing at Youk’s bean though. We’d be absolutely livid if it was one of their’s targeting one of ours.
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I’ll bet that Rodriguez, Jeter, Giambi and Posada have no problems with Yankee pitchers coming in close to Boston hitters. They’ve had a Boston bull’s eye on them for years.
Ansky,
So your saying as long as they dont throw their glove at the batter they struck out or a broken bat from a grounder its no big deal.
Baby Huey is a duck?
I’ll always picture this:
Joba redux!
http://tinyurl.com/ywa5za
Unfortunately, those are poor attributes for a starting pitcher, and he quickly developed arm problems when he was starting last year, and despite what most believe, might be much better off in the pen.
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Ah, yes. We can make that assumption based on a dozen big league starts.
This might be the dumbest argument in the history of dumb arguments. Well, that along with “Wang is not an ace” and “A-Rod is not a true Yankee.”
gb7-
those milwaukee teams with aaron, mathews, adcock, spahn, and adcock were pretty good too.
i have a game bat from adcock that is about 38″ long and about 34ounces. i have no idea how he swung that warclub for power. i use it as an exercise bat.
Baby Huey i believe was a bear on a cartoon in the 80′s.
S.o.S.
January 21st, 2009 at 2:02 pm
GB7,
Havnt heard any hype for those 36-38 Yanks teams. What made them possibly better than the 27/61 teams and why arent they ever mentioned?
You think those pitching staffs would have stopped the high powered 70’s Reds offense?
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Those teams had 6 HOFers on them and a HOF manager. 4 straight WS champs, incluing ’39. Dickey, DiMaggio, Ruffing, Gomez, Lizzeri, Gehrig. Quite a few, including David Halberstram picked those teams over the ’27 team. The ’27-28 teams also had 6 HOFers and HOF manager, but, the 36-39 Yanks had two more titles than the ’27-’28 teams, who went 3 years without winning.
***Lazzeri***
For those interested
New York Yankees Top-15 Prospects of 2009, No’s 1 – 5
http://www.baseball-intellect......prospects/
Has Phil Pavano Hughes been injured yet?
S.o.S.
January 21st, 2009 at 2:21 pm
Baby Huey i believe was a bear on a cartoon in the 80’s.
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Baby Huey was a duck…put out by the same comic book company (Harvey Comics) as Casper , Little LuLu and Richie Rich.
Tarheelyank:
I’m a little surprised Montero and Betances are ranked ahead of Jackson…then again, their ceilings migght be higher and it’s just that I’m equating being closer to major league ready with being a better prospect!
S.o.S.
No, that’s not what I’m saying. What I wrote and what you may think I was saying (or may just be trying to drag me into) have little to do with each other.
Ansky,
I was joking. No one is trying to drag anyone anywhere.I could care less what acts Joba does on the mound as long as he helps us win games.
GB7,
Thanks. I knew he was an over sized animal, couldnt remember what he was.
Cool, SoS … some people tend to get a little antagonistic here for the sake conjuring up an argument (as I’m sure you’ve seen) and sometimes its hard to tell.
S.o.S.
January 21st, 2009 at 2:37 pm
Ansky,
I was joking. No one is trying to drag anyone anywhere.I could care less what acts Joba does on the mound as long as he helps us win games.
GB7,
Thanks. I knew he was an over sized animal, couldnt remember what he was.
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Not a problem. I’m a fountain of important facts and information like that.
By the way, Jeff Kent just announced hs retirement. Do you think he gets into the HOF on the first ballot?
Rebecca
“Prospects are graded on a combination of the player’s overall upside, the likelyhood of reaching that upside, the player’s floor, and the closeness of that player to the major league level.
Yeah more weight on the upside then closer to the Major league ready. I tend to think like you.
ANSKY
January 21st, 2009 at 2:41 pm
Cool, SoS … some people tend to get a little antagonistic here for the sake conjuring up an argument (as I’m sure you’ve seen) and sometimes its hard to tell.
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Yeah..I can’t stand people who do that.
GB7
HEY WHAT ARE YOU TRYING TO SAY, PAL????
(Just kidding)
Ken Rosenthal recommends the Yankees sign Ben Sheets and Juan Cruz, partially because they’d pay less of a cost in draft picks than any other team.
Ansky, SOS, and GB
Am I hearing strains of Kumbaya in the background?
And if so what of it???
lol
I already got tickets
I would bet no one on the yankees would call Andy a bad teamate. Would surprise me.
ANSKY
January 21st, 2009 at 2:54 pm
GB7
HEY WHAT ARE YOU TRYING TO SAY, PAL????
(Just kidding)
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No, not at all. I just wish that more people were gentle souls like myself…
Oh, yeah…and you, too…I guess. LMAO
Brad Pitt’s better-looking brother
January 21st, 2009 at 3:00 pm
Ansky, SOS, and GB
Am I hearing strains of Kumbaya in the background?
And if so what of it???
lol
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All that’s missing are camfir, marshmallows andf hotdogs…
and, sharp, pointed sticks to be used on anybody that disagrees with me.
“Ansky, SOS, and GB
Am I hearing strains of Kumbaya in the background?
And if so what of it???
lol”
Just when i thought i was out, they drag me back in. Im not biting. Its all good in the family(singing Kumbaya while typing).
All that’s missing are ***campfires***
GB7,
Headed out for a few. I think there was a baby huey bear in the 50′s before the duck. Cant find pictures though. I guess i was half right. But it was the duck that i saw.
Jeter building a 31,000 sf home in the Tampa area? That can’t be right. That’s like 15 times the size of our house and we have 6 people and a dog living here.
http://www.bizjournals.com/tam.....ly29.html#
pat January 21st, 2009 at 3:15 pm
Jeter building a 31,000 sf home in the Tampa area? That can’t be right. That’s like 15 times the size of our house and we have 6 people and a dog living here.
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ahh, but you forget he has about 250 girlfriends. A wing for each?
S.o.S.
January 21st, 2009 at 3:15 pm
GB7,
Headed out for a few. I think there was a baby huey bear in the 50’s before the duck. Cant find pictures though. I guess i was half right. But it was the duck that i saw.
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There was a bear like that…three actually….father (Henry), mother (Mama) and “baby” (Junior) in Warner Brothers Looney Tunes.
“If the Yankees feel that the hearings/trial will be a distraction, they wouldn’t even be considering Andy Pettitte. At all, for any amount of money.”
mel- let’s try this again:
THE INFORMATION ABOUT THE GRAND JURY CONVENING DIDN’T HAPPEN UNTIL AFTER THE INITIAL OFFER WAS MADE.
So maybe at this point they aren’t considering Andy Pettitte. At all, for any amount of money.
trisha,
You don’t need to shout at me. I didn’t answer you the first time I saw it because I thought we were all operating under the assumption that the Yankees and Pettitte’s camp are still engaged.
I’ve tried, but haven’t always succeeded, to be nice to you. But I have to say that your behavior borders on passsive aggressive at times.
GB7
Joe Gordon also came up during that run. Charlie Keller, who should be in the HoF did, too. Same with Tommy Henrich. The late thirties/early 40′s Yanks might have been the best ever.
ahh, but you forget he has about 250 girlfriends. A wing for each?
i said it before and i’ll say it again…
it’s good to be a Yankee!
31,000 SF? That’s the size of a house I’d expect someone like Mike Tyson to have built. That’s about 40 times the size of my humble little apartment in the city. How many of his girlfriends does Jeter plan on having live there?
Probably only about 5% of them …
I work in an architect’s office. When one client’s new house began approaching 15,000 SF, the joke here was when we were going to be asked to integrate a food court & movie theater into the design.
Phil
“The late thirties/early 40’s Yanks might have been the best ever.”
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Maybe so. I think because those teams were post Ruth, Lazzeri, and Gehrig and also pre-Mantle, Maris, and Ford that they get overlooked sometimes.
They were certainly successful as far as pennants and W.S. go, which should be the standard anyway.
Phil
January 21st, 2009 at 3:22 pm
GB7
Joe Gordon also came up during that run. Charlie Keller, who should be in the HoF did, too. Same with Tommy Henrich. The late thirties/early 40’s Yanks might have been the best ever.
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As good as they were, they didn’t last long eough. They sort of fall into the Don Mattingly hole.
Ansky
Even at only 5% of them, Derek might still be pinched for space now and again?
I mean, 31,000 square feet adjusted for inflation just ain’t what it used to be!
I just saw on MLBTR that Keith Law posted his top 100 prospects, but 26-100 is subscription required. Anybody know who the Yankees on the list were? (None made the top 25)
GB7
Keller and Henrich lost prime years to a war that was beyond their control. Both were better than Jim Rice and several other HoF OF’s, and it’s silly that they get docked for serving their country.
Rob – I have access…will post the rest
Can you post the link? I see the farm system rankings but not prospects…
Rishi– http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/.....id=3840355
Thanks, Rob – the links to 26-100 are not working right now (goes to the Free Agent rankings), but i’ll keep trying and post when I’m able to get the content
There’s a rumor now floating around that Jeter may have suffered a torn hamstring working out and getting ready for the WBC and could be out for awhile.
I’m obviously very skeptical of this rumor but we’ll probably find out soon enough if there is an ounce of truth to it.
I read it on another board. Take it with a grain of salt.
http://ask.metafilter.com/6465.....quare-feet
jennifer, is this finally the weekend that you’re going to the Moose dinner? Aside from asking him if he would consider coming back to pitch vs. Pavano, maybe you should print this out and bring it along:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/9.....otostream/
Rob – so this is what that link now says about the top 100 prospects: “Check back Thursday.”
i’ll post when I can tomorrow
Whoa. Wait. Jeter tore his hamstring?
I need a source on this.
Phil
January 21st, 2009 at 3:35 pm
GB7
Keller and Henrich lost prime years to a war that was beyond their control. Both were better than Jim Rice and several other HoF OF’s, and it’s silly that they get docked for serving their country.
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Fair or not, military service has affected a lot of careers and could have cost Bobby Murcer, Garry Maddox and Gary Mathews HOF numbers. It certainly cost Williams, Spahn, Feller, DiMaggio, and Ford historic numbers.
Yep this is the weekend.
I have the newspaper clipping from the Daily News that the Yankees put in congratulating Mike on his 20th win and retirement. I have to figure out what else to get signed. I have a half dozen bb signed by him already. Any ideas?
Rebecca I don’t believe it. Did anyone email Pete just to be sure?
Or maybe I can ask him to sign a bb with the inscription 20 wins 2008? Is that good?
Ask him to sign this:
http://tinyurl.com/9qb27y
Jeter torn hammy? Good job Yanks letting the captain play in an exhibition.
nick-
I actually met Carl once. I have an autographed photo. The Big G was the one scheduled to appear but apparently something came up and we got Carl instead. No one was there to see him, and he was kinda a jerk. People were wishing him well (this was from the first season when he had the shoulder issue). And he was just like yeah thanks. Not much of a talker at all.
Al calm down.. If Jeter batted 400 in the WBC, people would still find a reason to complain.. everyone one here is never satisfied.. Thing’s happen, he’ll be fine for spring training..
jennifer, Pavano was probably just depressed about Alyssa Milano, so I’d cut him some slack.
Al: do you have any reason to believe this rumor is true, or are you just getting your panic in now before it’s debunked?
Lincoln, Nebraska is the center of a metropolitan area of about 300,000 people. I’m sure they have taxi’s there; hotels and motels, too.
There’s nothing on any sites or wire services abou Jeter getting hurt. Way to get excited for nothing, Al From Burger King.
Here’s a link with all players, listed by their teams.
http://newyork.yankees.mlb.com.....lbclub#147
Posted by Mike: “What did Andy lie about? Taking HGH isn’t lying, or dishonest.
Andy taking HGH was a lapse of good judgment. Honest people still make mistakes, as hard as that is to believe.
When Andy was confronted, being the honest person that he is, he fessed up and admitted his mistake.”
Mike,
Are you that delusional to think that what pettitte did was just a mistake that he later apologized for. Except, he only admitted to it and apologized when confronted with being brought to court and years after the fact. And yes, taking HGH and then, telling no one about it and then, signing a contract knowing his name was going to be in the mitchell report was dishonest and certainly not the right thing to do.
Jennifer get him to sign the feinstein book
It is amazing that people believe anything that is written on a web site. if I said the sky is green it would get posted somewhere and a whole slew of people would look up in the sky to see if it is still blue.
Just because someone writes that someone got hurt there are people who believe it without any kind of sourcing etc.
gayle- I have 3 copies of it.
One a friend gave me, one I bought when it came out, and one moose gave out that I had him sign.
“Al: do you have any reason to believe this rumor is true, or are you just getting your panic in now before it’s debunked?”
The panic makes me feel better then at least I have somewhere to come down from if it is indeed true. I honestly think the Yanks should let the least amount of players compete. What if A-Rod tears an ACL rounding a base for the Dominican or Jeter indeed has a severe injury. I was mad when Wang got hurt in an interleague regular season game imagine if a guy goes down for 09 in March playing in a pointless tournament!
There’s nothing on any sites or wire services abou Jeter getting hurt. Way to get excited for nothing, Al.
Here’s a link with all players, listed by their teams.
http://newyork.yankees.mlb.com.....lbclub#147
These guys are going to be in shape. Is thre any difference in being hurt in a exhibitin game or in spring training, when there is less time for recovery?
if true, i guess it’s better to pull a hammy now, than to not be in the WBC and pull one in mid-march while working out…
I just think the chances of a player getting hurt in a game where they are actually competing is greater than the chances of them getting hurt playing a ST game at Legends. The level of play for the WBC will no doubt be higher just because people are gonna be playing for their countries.
Jennifer where are you going to see him? Did you check out my site yet? I dont think so with that jeter torn hammie, it would be all over the place, dont worry Rebecca.
Al, as we saw with Wang, fluke injuries can occur at any time; at the WBC, at Legends Field, in a parking lot, in a bathtub. You can’t live in fear. Just step back from the flame broiler, exhale, and relax.
Claire – you’re sure? Have you been to Lincoln? It’s not actually that easy to get a taxi, even downtown. And you don’t have to go far to be outside of the downtown area. I’m not trying to defend Joba, but just pointing out that maybe you shouldn’t be so sure about the availability of taxis in Lincoln.
Al from BK
January 21st, 2009 at 4:54 pm
I just think the chances of a player getting hurt in a game where they are actually competing is greater than the chances of them getting hurt playing a ST game at Legends. The level of play for the WBC will no doubt be higher just because people are gonna be playing for their countries.
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They’re just as likely or even more likely to get hurt by easing up and trying not to get hurt in ST, than by playing their natural game. Why do you think so many players get hurt in spring training?
Nick — As we’ve seen you can even get injured in your favorite porsche. That’s the nature of being alive.
Garym(Yanks and More)
In PA. No I didn’t get a chance to look at it, but I’ll be sure to check it out when I get home,
“Just step back from the flame broiler”
Joba Chamberlain will be a hall of fame pitcher he can do and say whatever he wants
MLB Dubious achievement awards. The only current Yankee winner (if it can be called winner) is Jorge with most passed balls.
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn.....ark_jayson
If all you “Baseball Fans” are really “Baseball Fans” then you should all be happy that there is a WBC, I personally love the idea.. I love the fact that baseball starts earlier this year, and love watching the game.. I love the fact that these guys are seeing live pitching early in spring training, and preparing themselves for our season. There is no difference of Jeter facing a guy from Japan in early march, then a guy from AA in Spring Training. I think it’s great for the game and for the FANS..
You people are fake fans, yes FAKE fans.. Relax and enjoy the game in which I love..
and Ohh yeah.. Stop complaining..
and PPS, Im glad everyone came into reality with the Cano for Kemp talks.. Maybe the DR can trade Cano to the US for Kemp?? Maybe that will work out.. AND im glad you all see that Gardner SUCKS! and I love how everyones saying trade Veras.. Veras is staying..
First Joba does a Vegas promo with Ortiz, now he’s doing something with Lester.
Who’s next – Youk?
pat,
Livan!
How many pitches has Jorge seen compared to the rest of baseball? Mirabelli’s not even full-time.
DT,
Dunking booth at the World’s Fair. Youk might be wondering why the balls are aimed at the tank.
m
I figured I’d let the Livan stats speak for themselves rather than highlight them.
Jorge hasn’t seen that many more pitches that he should be that far ahead.
DT
If you have a problem with Yankee/Sox affiliations, brace yourself. I think this spring is going to be a Jeter/Pedroia lovefest with the WBC coverage.
pat,
I don’t think there’s a proper way to say “passed balls” like that without massive amounts of innuendo.
No smoke and mirrors here, Jorge is just not very good at stopping/blocking balls in the dirt.
Remember he is a converted 2nd baseman and he has improved, over the years, but not the defensive catcher that Jose Molina is for example.
No Robert, I’ve never been to Lincoln. I just assumed that since it’s a reasonably large city, taxis were at least somewhat available.
I live in NY, but it is not that easy to get a cab where I live either; at least not on the street. However, you can get one if you call the radio base on the phone. Is that not also true in Lincoln?
Mirabelli’s role in Boston was primarily to catch Tim Wakefield. He was catching less than the starting catchers in the game, but he was usually catching a knuckleballer when he did.
Dave,
“Mike,
Are you that delusional to think that what pettitte did was just a mistake that he later apologized for. Except, he only admitted to it and apologized when confronted with being brought to court and years after the fact. And yes, taking HGH and then, telling no one about it and then, signing a contract knowing his name was going to be in the mitchell report was dishonest and certainly not the right thing to do.”
It’s an arguable point of whether or not he really had anything to apologize for. HGH was not illegal in baseball when he used it.
Do you think people who use marijuana have something to apologize for?
What about people with prescriptions for painkillers that they don’t need anymore? Who do they apologize to?
What about players that drink like fish? Who do they apologize to?
Any word on that Jeter rumor?
Jorge is a converted infielder and his biggest problem when being converted was…passed balls. It’s not a strength.
Doreen,
Im late to the party but didnt Posada also have major problems throwing runners out? Maybe his biggest problem till Pena worked with him on it?
m
January 21st, 2009 at 5:22 pm
DT,
Dunking booth at the World’s Fair. Youk might be wondering why the balls are aimed at the tank.
LOL….I just figured Joba was in step 8 of a 12 step program.
Mike,
Point is, clemens name along with a lot of others got dragged through the mud for using hgh and other PEDs years prior and it was not against the rules of the game for any of them however, it was against the law in most situations. Either way, plenty of players are not making the hall of fame for their PEDs use. Why should pettitte be immune to criticism when so many other guys got it so much worse like NEVER making the hall of fame? Frankly, pettitte did have something to apologize for – he held the truth from everyone until he was forced to admit it or join his buddy clemens in court. hE chose the high road at that time but it was well after he signed his new 16 million dollar contract. There was not a single repercussion for pettitte. All he had to do was apologize but it doesn’t mean that people did not lose some respect for him because of the whole situation.
pat
January 21st, 2009 at 5:16 pm
MLB Dubious achievement awards. The only current Yankee winner (if it can be called winner) is Jorge with most passed balls.
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn.....ark_jayson
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Stark set the the start of 2000, but, of course, he exaggreated slightly. In 170 more games caught than Rodriguez (44 PB) and 120 more than Varitek (54 PB), Posada in his 1117 games caught has 82 passed balls. It’s not great, but considerably better than the Stark Idiot has it.
S.o.S. -
I don’t know.
But it seems Jorge is an below-average to average defensive catcher, but an above-average offensive catcher who has helped the Yankees more than he’s hurt them.
It also speaks to how difficult it is to find a really good catcher.
Coupling that with his comments about not caring about the money and only wanting to pitch in the new stadium – and then, making it all about the money really put him in a bad light in my eyes. He should consider the 10 million dollars a gift from the yanks and give them one more solid season. Asking for 16 again after the worst season of his career and the hgh nonsense and this whole All i want to do is play for the yanks mumbojumbo is slowly unraveling the perception of a strong, honest character he worked so hard to build. All for what? He already made over 100 million dollars. The whole thing makes him look very bad. And now the rumors circulating that he is considering going to the astros for less is just another thing that yankee fans can cringe over. Im sure defending his character as a moral, honest guy is getting more and more difficult.
Aaron(the better Aaron)(KEEP NADY AND SWISH)
January 21st, 2009 at 5:19 pm
If all you “Baseball Fans” are really “Baseball Fans” then you should all be happy that there is a WBC, I personally love the idea.. I love the fact that baseball starts earlier this year, and love watching the game.. I love the fact that these guys are seeing live pitching early in spring training, and preparing themselves for our season. There is no difference of Jeter facing a guy from Japan in early march, then a guy from AA in Spring Training. I think it’s great for the game and for the FANS..
You people are fake fans, yes FAKE fans.. Relax and enjoy the game in which I love..
and Ohh yeah.. Stop complaining..
and PPS, Im glad everyone came into reality with the Cano for Kemp talks.. Maybe the DR can trade Cano to the US for Kemp?? Maybe that will work out.. AND im glad you all see that Gardner SUCKS! and I love how everyones saying trade Veras.. Veras is staying..
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Take a deep breath and hold it. I’ll be back later and tell you when to exhale,
dave -
A gift? Really?
Finding a “great” catcher is the hardest position to find in baseball. Finding a good, not great though, but good closer is probably the easiest.
Doreen,
I dont see any other fourth starters in their late 30s making 10 mil. I dont see pettitte getting offers left and right for anything close to the yanks offer. Fact is, pettitte has consistently been a second half pitcher – last season, he was terrible in the second half. i know he was hurt but it was not bad enough so that he could not pitch through it. And pettitte is getting old – injuries come with the territory. i THINK the second half could have easily signaled to the yanks organization that this may be the beginning of a decline for pettitte I mean he has been talking about retirement for almost the better part of a decade now. Clearly, he realizes he may not be able to pitch well forever. iM SORRY but fourth starters past the age of 35 who may be declining dont deserve 16 mil. Add on all the support the yanks gave him through the whole hgh situation and the fact that pettitte has stated over and over that he only wants to play in NY and perhaps, pettitte should be willing to take a little less to play for the yanks than he feels he deserves. The yanks offered him over what the market is dictating his current value is – so essentially pettitte does not have any leverage and the yanks still gave him his highest offer. That could be considered a gift or at least doing the right thing on the yankees part no?
“It also speaks to how difficult it is to find a really good catcher.”
Amen Doreen. Let alone a catcher thats also has the leadership qualities that Posada. Too bad we cant have Molina donate his arm to Posada and his behind the plate skills.
a good dh is the easiest thing to find in baseball … I think montero may have what it takes to make it to the majors and be our every day catcher. As long as he stays in that role, i think he will make it to the majors.
doreen, no response? Are you reading this thread any more or are you too good for this one now that a new one is up?
Dave,
You are ignoring the one big thing that separates Pettitte from Clemens and Bonds. When Clemens and Bonds were “forced to admit” they used PED’s they refused to deny it.
When Pettitte was “forced to admit” his PED use, he was honest and admitted it.
People may have lost respect for Pettitte, but that doesn’t mean he has something to apologize for.
Is that the reason bonds and clemens are not making the HOF? Because they denied it. The reason they denied it is because they had a lot more to lose than pettitte – namely, the HOF vote. They see what is happening to mcgwire and realize it could happen to anyone so they deny, deny, deny. Imagine the leader in cy young award and the leader in mvp awards all time do not get into the hall because of PED use. What did pettitte have to lose by admitting his use? Nothing – it was easy for him as there was not really any repercussions except for the public opinion of him.
Bonds, Clemens and Mcgwire are punished for their use for the rest of their lives and the rest of history by never taking their rightful place among the greats. Its not that pettitte is a better person than clemens or mcgwire for admitting it, he just had so much less to lose by doing so. Atleast that is what i think the reason was for all this. But to me, pettitte is getting too little criticism well mainly that he is getting none (which is too little) among fans and clemens and mcgwire are getting too much criticism by being punished for life all for pretty much the same mistakes. Bonds deserves everything he gets because he is not just a cheater but also a horrible person.
It’s a shame we will never know if the HOF voting would have gone differently for McGwire had he been honest about his steroid use.
Same will hold true for Bonds and Clemens when they’re eligible.
It’s an insult to the fans of baseball and to the United States of America when you watch Clemens blatantly lying through his teeth under oath on national television.
Had Clemens fessed up and acted like a man, rather than lying like a coward, it is certain that he would have a much greater chance of making the HOF when he is eligible.