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More from the move

Posted by: Peter Abraham - Posted in Misc on Jan 23, 2009 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post


Click here for a photo gallery from today’s move.

The great Frank Becerra Jr. took a bunch of photos.

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94 Responses to “More from the move”

  1. jennifer January 23rd, 2009 at 4:35 pm

    Someone needs to polish the trophy’s it is full of finger prints!

  2. Smarter than you January 23rd, 2009 at 4:43 pm

    Time for a new one. It’s starting to look tarnished.

  3. DT January 23rd, 2009 at 4:44 pm

    What is the ransom on the trophy?

    If we give these black jacket shady characters Kei Igawa will we get it back? (ok ok, we will pick up his salary too)

  4. Sean January 23rd, 2009 at 4:44 pm

    Pete your pictures where far better.

    Any chance we can get the full resolution for these pictures? or at least large versions. These are very small, and blurry.

  5. Laura January 23rd, 2009 at 4:46 pm

    Why do they have some guy carrying those things around? Shouldn’t they have been encased in bubble wrap, gently packed in bullet proof boxes and taken over to the new stadium by the Secret Service? What an outrage!!!

    :P

  6. Rishi January 23rd, 2009 at 4:47 pm

    you did try clicking on the pics, right?

    They are not small and blurry for me…

  7. saucY January 23rd, 2009 at 4:53 pm

    what are the odds Eddie Fastook is nicknamed Fast Eddie?

  8. Sean January 23rd, 2009 at 4:55 pm

    http://jukebox.lohud.com/openp.....move19.jpg

    The above picture isn’t a high quality picture. The below one.. is

    http://farm4.static.flickr.com.....d363_b.jpg

  9. Sean January 23rd, 2009 at 4:56 pm

    Tell me, which one of these pictures is good quality?

    http://jukebox.lohud.com/openp.....move19.jpg

    http://farm4.static.flickr.com.....d363_b.jpg

  10. PRAWN15 January 23rd, 2009 at 5:07 pm

    Cotton Eye Joe was packed in a box and brought over.

  11. Stateman January 23rd, 2009 at 5:09 pm

    Hopefully the trophy in not on EBAY tonight.

  12. bru January 23rd, 2009 at 5:18 pm

    if not pettitte.the yankees should sign perez if it is for a reasonable price or try & trade nady for a pitcher like lannan from the nationals if possible.

    lannan is a lefty who will give you 200 innings & had good numbers in 08.

    sabathia
    burnett
    wang
    joba(150 innings) will not cut it unless at least 2 of hughes,acevez,coke,giese.kennedy pitch well.

    the yankees need at least one pitcher to spell joba & one at the minimum for injuries,probably 2.

    we came this far why stop short of having a deep,balanced rotation?

    if none of the kids pitch well combined with 2 injuries to starters it could be a mess.

    5 outfielders or 5 solid starters? even if we get another pitcher we will have 4 3/4 because of joba’s limits.

    i just have a feeling that the pitching staff isn’t deep enough.with a 200 million dollar payroll they should of been able to afford another pitcher & still keep nady but because they overpay every player they might not wan’t to.

    i would trade nady & sign another pitcher or keep nady & sign a pitcher.

  13. BA January 23rd, 2009 at 5:27 pm

    A hi-res version for download of picture# 8 of 19 would be a nice way to get through these last 22 days before pitchers and catchers.

  14. Doreen January 23rd, 2009 at 5:29 pm

    Laura -

    I saw the no bubble wrap in Pete’s earlier picture. I want an investigation! Everyone knows you’ve got to carefully drape your precious mementos in bubble wrap when moving!!!!!!

    :lol:

    (but seriously, you do!)

  15. Sean January 23rd, 2009 at 5:30 pm

    I did click on them.. and there pretty crappy

  16. randy l January 23rd, 2009 at 5:50 pm

    “i just have a feeling that the pitching staff isn’t deep enough”

    i have the same feeling. i’d like to see 6 decent veteran starters with the kids backing them up.

  17. dave January 23rd, 2009 at 5:51 pm

    This is in response to the last post – There is absolutely no reason we should not land pettitte in the end. Pete is right as pettitte has little to no interest outside of the yankees and no one is offering him more money than the yanks. So why in the world he somehow has this idea that he is worth far more than 10.5 mil is beyond me and shows how delusional baseball players can be about money, the market for them and the talent they still have. I dont know how pettitte thinks this whole thing is going to end but he is sadly mistaken if he thinks eventually some team will come to their senses and realize he is worth sixteen million IT IS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN! Further, he will likely never get an offer higher than the yanks 10.5 mil offer from any team as it is already late January.

    Facts are facts and all signs point to the fact that this is not going to end how pettitte wants it to end. I dont exactly know why he is playing with fire right now or what he has to gain from the difficult situation he has gotten himself into. Clearly, he is aggravating the yankee organization and the fans just for a few extra mil added to his contract but is all this really worth the trouble for that amount of money or the risk of being left out in the cold? And he wont even get the money in the end so it certainly can’t be worth the game he is playing. Really, there is a few precious teams still looking for pitching that costs 8 figures and even less teams looking to give that kind of money to a pitcher in his late 30s coming off a career worst season.

    Soon, the free agent season will be coming to a close and if pettitte continues this delusion that he is worth last years salary, he will be left flying in the wind until he wisens up. And if the yanks decide to go another way, it will be completely understandable as they cannot wait around for pettitte forever and if pettitte is left high and dry, no one should feel bad for him for a second as he has brought this upon himself. The man who did not care about money in the least and just wanted to pitch in the new stadium and likely end his career with the yanks has become the man who would leave the yanks offer in a heartbeat if some other team came by with a better offer. Maybe pettitte does not owe the yanks anything but he clearly wanted to stay in NY and wanted a decent one year contract and that is exactly what the yanks are offering – I dont see what his problem is.

  18. Old Ranger January 23rd, 2009 at 5:53 pm

    bru@5:18…
    One thing standing in the way of signing any more players is the 40 man roster…it is full. If we sign Andy or anyone else, we will have to move someone off the 40 man (and most-likely, lose them).
    Joba as the 5th starter will have turns that may be missed; because of the scheduled days off and bad weather. He should be alright.
    As the team stands right now, we don’t need another long term deal. Besides; just because we had trouble last year, no need to think it will repeat itself.
    The two/three guys we will use in the lineup are basically better or as good as, most of the uninjured pitchers out there…if they live up to their expectations.

  19. randy l January 23rd, 2009 at 5:55 pm

    cliff notes for dave post:
    “There is absolutely no reason we should not land pettitte in the end. Pete is right as pettitte has little to no interest outside of the yankees and no one is offering him more money than the yanks.
    I dont see what his problem is.”

  20. Nick in SF January 23rd, 2009 at 5:58 pm

    randy: while making fun of your Livan fetish continues to be a source of joy for me, please be advised that I wasn’t the strong advocate of Hughes/Kennedy last season that you suggest in your ‘just-kidding’ post in the previous thread.

    That said, do you think it’s realistic to think the Yanks would start the season with 6 veteran starters plus Joba in the rotation? Or do you mean 4 plus Joba plus a couple more in AAA? Or do you not think Joba will be/should be a starter at the beginning of the season?

    Just what do you mean?

  21. dave January 23rd, 2009 at 6:04 pm

    Old ranger,

    There is every reason to think that the rotation will be effected by injury or ineffectivness as every single starter has risk factors and a few in the back end have absolutely not proven their worth at the major league level. Joba cant pitch any more than 150 innings and he will be OUR FOURTH STARTER- no way do off days and weather put him down that many innings .. And the fifth starter has the same problem whoever that may be – they cant fill the spot the whole season. So we need two starters just to replace the two in the back. Then, we need another starter at the very least to serve as depth for injury or ineffectivness. There is no reason to think we wont have a major injury as we have one EVERY SINGLE SEASON. And there is also little reason to think all three of hUGHES, Aceves and kennedy will pitch well at the major league level – one of them may struggle. Then what? We need another starter and preferably a starter for one year so andy becomes a very good idea to sign.

  22. bru January 23rd, 2009 at 6:05 pm

    Old Ranger

    hughes,kennedy,acevez,coke,giese can’t be relied upon until they prove they can pitch.

    you can spin this anyway you want but right now we have 3 3/4 starters until someone else steps up.

    the red sox have
    becket
    lester
    dice
    wake in stone with about ten pitchers for the 5th spot,smoltz,penney,masterson,buchholz,bowden,etc…

    this is a huge difference.

    it would be different if we had joba for 2oo innings & several 5th options.

  23. dave January 23rd, 2009 at 6:07 pm

    Old Ranger,

    Havent you ever heard that history repeats itself?? That saying did not come out of nowhere – it is often the truth. We had injuries last year and we will have them this year

  24. dave January 23rd, 2009 at 6:14 pm

    Bru is correct .. the sox have a lot more depth than we do. They have injury risk but we have more risk of being ineffective plus they have more starters in general. We need another starter who is capable of pitching 200 innings and we still just barely match the sox in starter depth.

  25. randy l January 23rd, 2009 at 6:14 pm

    “That said, do you think it’s realistic to think the Yanks would start the season with 6 veteran starters plus Joba in the rotation?”

    sorry about that nick. i started by saying 6 decent starters including joba and switched “veteran” for “decent”.

    the reason i want 5 starters plus joba is that one of sabathia, wang,burnett, either pettitte or sheets, and joba will likely miss the majority of next season.

    so 5 good starters plus joba is what the yankees really need. if they run the table and have no major injuries, they’ll be in the playoffs having paid a little extra for insurance that they didn’t need. but the down side is probably 5 million.

    i think that’s worth insuring a playoff spot.if they have to move nady or swisher, i’d still do it.

  26. GreenBeret7 January 23rd, 2009 at 6:18 pm

    Yes, the Yankees had injuries in 2008 and will probably have some in 2009. The bitter fact is that no other teams, such as Boston and Tampa will ever have injuries again.

  27. sunny615 January 23rd, 2009 at 6:21 pm

    From MLBTR

    Ed Wade, the Astros GM who said David Newhan could rejoin the team on a minor league contract. That seems to be all Wade has cooking; here’s what he said:

    “Otherwise, we’re not talking to anybody else. If things fall in our lap we have to think about — it’s got to be something of a front-line nature — but I think we’re covered with regard to competition at positions. In the existing player payroll budget, there is no more to cover anything of significance.”

    So much for the Stros signing Pettitte… The only other option Pettitte has now is to start “muttering” about retirement to get the Yanks to up their ante… which they won’t. But I still think this makes too much sense for it not to happen. Just wish Pettitte wasn’t so egomaniacal.

  28. Doreen January 23rd, 2009 at 6:25 pm

    GB7 -

    Thanks for the laugh! That just cracked me up! :lol:

    Because, you know, it is SOOOOOOOO true. Yankees age. No other teams age. Yankees have injuries. No other team has them. But if they would admit to injuries, other teams will recover 100% and have career years, while Yankees will never recover from injuries, and if they do, will be sub-par. And on, and on, and on, and on……………….

    :)

  29. randy l January 23rd, 2009 at 6:25 pm

    gb7-
    tampa bay used 5 starters last year. it happens sometimes and when it does that team is usually in the playoffs. the problem for the yankees is they have to be in the playoffs for 2009.

    i think the best way of guaranteeing that for the yankees is to have 6 good starters.
    i do not consider hughes,aceves, or kennedy good starters.

  30. randy l January 23rd, 2009 at 6:32 pm

    the yankees are in the same position tiger woods is in. yes they are generally better than everyone else, but someone in the field will roll the dice and play over their head and at least match and maybe beat them.

    tiger competes each week with the hot player in the field.
    the yankees compete with the hot team out of about 6 good teams. last year it was the rays that came out of the field and had the luck to have 5 starters throw almost all their starts.

    for the yankees to insure a playoff spot , they have to be better than the lucky team that will emerge each year. to do this means being much better than the field which costs a lot.

  31. dave January 23rd, 2009 at 6:33 pm

    GB,

    Who cares about how many injuries the rays and sox have? That has nothing to do with the yanks needing to add depth… Plus, the sox have more starting depth than we do. They may have a weaker top three but then, they have six starters behind them all with some major league experience. But it doesn’t even matter because the yanks depth is the only thing protecting them when yankee injuries arise and they will. If Joba and aceves are the fourth and fifth starter, We have only hughes, kennedy and assorted other unproven players to not only fill in the for aceves and jjoba when they reach their innings limit but also fill in for any injuries and any ineffectiveness. That is a very big risk, much bigger than people are making it seem. Who cares about the sox or their injuries?

  32. GreenBeret7 January 23rd, 2009 at 6:36 pm

    Doreen
    January 23rd, 2009 at 6:25 pm
    GB7 –
    Thanks for the laugh! That just cracked me up!

    Because, you know, it is SOOOOOOOO true. Yankees age. No other teams age. Yankees have injuries. No other team has them. But if they would admit to injuries, other teams will recover 100% and have career years, while Yankees will never recover from injuries, and if they do, will be sub-par. And on, and on, and on, and on……………….

    ————————————————————

    LMAO. One of these days Cashman will start drafting players that will never get hurt. Perhaps we could chip in and send him to Boston for lessons from The Theo. I’d be willing to bet that The Theo and Billy Beane are actually
    the illegitimate twins of Branch Rickey and Cashman is the spawn from Hell.

  33. dave January 23rd, 2009 at 6:44 pm

    “So much for the Stros signing Pettitte… The only other option Pettitte has now is to start ‘muttering’ about retirement to get the Yanks to up their ante… which they won’t. But I still think this makes too much sense for it not to happen. Just wish Pettitte wasn’t so egomaniacal.”

    Your right sunny but if and when pettitte starts talking about retirement no one will take him seriously. Everyone knows he does not want to retire so there is not much or any leverage in that. Pettitte really has nothing that forces the yanks to up their offer – no other interested clubs, no other comparable offers, coming off a terrible season, not interested in retirement clearly AND said about a million times he only wanted to play in ny so in the end he will have to come back to the yanks. But i guess he wants to destroy his reputation as a nice and honest guy before doing so. That clearly is his only intentions because he is getting nothing else out of this at this point.

  34. randy l January 23rd, 2009 at 6:47 pm

    “Perhaps we could chip in and send him to Boston for lessons from The Theo.”

    he’s already getting lessons from theo.
    i think the two championships in 5 years are two too many.

  35. GreenBeret7 January 23rd, 2009 at 6:55 pm

    randy l
    January 23rd, 2009 at 6:47 pm
    “Perhaps we could chip in and send him to Boston for lessons from The Theo.”

    he’s already getting lessons from theo.

    i think the two championships in 5 years are two too many.

    ————————————————————

    Epstein isn’t that great. He’s no better or worse than Cashman. The players that he’s gotten in trades are no better than those acquired by Cashman.

  36. Nick in SF January 23rd, 2009 at 6:59 pm

    randy, I don’t really disagree with you, but I don’t think it’s going to happen. Right now it’s an open question if the Yanks will even sign another pitcher for the rotation. I think they will and I hope they will, but I don’t see them signing two more, unless it’s a fringe starter that will accept a minor league deal with the expectation of filling in for Injured Starter X. But we’ll see.

  37. sunny615 January 23rd, 2009 at 7:04 pm

    I don’t know if the Hendricks brothers are really whispering sweet nothing’s in Pettitte’s ears right now, but he better wake up soon or retirement will be on him whether he wants it or not.

  38. randy l January 23rd, 2009 at 7:04 pm

    gb7
    i agree epstein isn’t that great, the red sox don’t have to win every year the way the yankees do. they missed 2006 and it was no big deal. the yankees have a higher standard and that costs more.

    i think you’d agree that the yankees have to make the playoffs in 2009. that’s a different goal than the red sox have. they want to make it most years. theo plays out a different strategy because he has a different goal than the yankees have who intend to make it every year.

    cashman blew it last year because he didn’t insure having enough starting pitching. he couldn’t buy it in mid season because teams were holding on to their players because revenue sharing allowed them to do that.

    to insure making the playoff, it’s best to plan on losing one of the five starters and get another one ahead of time. either that or roll the dice and drop the standards to the red sox standards of making the playoffs most of the time but not all the time.

  39. randy l January 23rd, 2009 at 7:11 pm

    nick in sf-

    i’m assuming the yankees will sign either pettitte or sheets. then i think they need another starter who can win half his games, but pitch 6 or more innings the majority of his starts. a five era would be fine, but the steady reliable innings have to be there.

    i suppose another option for the 6th starter is a pitcher like ramiro mendoza who would make 15 starts and 30 relief appearances.

  40. Nick in SF January 23rd, 2009 at 7:12 pm

    Alfredo Aceves may be that very starter.

  41. GreenBeret7 January 23rd, 2009 at 7:15 pm

    Randy, I can definately agree that the pressure that the organization, the media and especially the fans put on the players is a crushing pressure that no other team deals with.

    It’s a wonder that they have done as well over the last 14 years as they have. The mistakes they have made the last few years really began in 2003 when they let Pettitte, Clemens and Wells walk without having adequate replacements.

    You could even go back one year earlier when they let the heart of their bullpen leave in Mendoza, Nelson and Stanton. They started giving the take it or leave it offers and then had to scramble to patch things together. They’ve been patching a pitching staff ever since. Hopefully, that phase is over.

  42. randy l January 23rd, 2009 at 7:26 pm

    “It’s a wonder that they have done as well over the last 14 years as they have.”

    gb7-

    i actually think it would take any team at least 225 million a year( in todays money) to guarantee that kind of streak .

    the problem really is having to beat that lucky team that does emerge every year out of the pack. if cb were here, he could put that in words better than i can, but insuring making the playoffs takes a huge premium which is way higher than making it say every other year.

    the long yankee playoff run was truly amazing.

    nick in sf-
    aceves could be it ,but then we’re back to gambling. i’d like a known commodity.

  43. dave January 23rd, 2009 at 7:49 pm

    Its not even about whether aceves is a gamble or not in the rotation. Its more about depth. Aceves should be the first guy to step in when someone gets hurt, he shouldnt be starting the year off in the rotation – we sign another pitcher, he will contribute to our depth but if we dont, our depth is severely limited when aceves is the fifth starter.

    “Epstein isn’t that great. He’s no better or worse than Cashman. The players that he’s gotten in trades are no better than those acquired by Cashman.”

    GB,
    You can say that all you want but the fact is epstein’s moves have resulted in 2 championships while since cash has gained full control of all the teams operations in 2005, we have slowly gotten worse and worse until we could not even make it to the playoffs. Its one thing saying cash is just as good as epstein but its hard to believe it unless the team actually proves it on the field. As they say, actions speak louder than words.

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