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Joba: I’m ready to start

Posted by: Peter Abraham - Posted in Misc on Jan 27, 2009 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Here we are at Sacred Heart University, where a capacity crowd (80 percent of them Yankees fans) are here to hear Joba Chamberlain and Jon Lester speak. Andrew Marchand of the ESPN Radio is the moderator.

It’s great to be at a school in the dead of winter and see so many baseball fans.

Joba is headed down to Tampa tomorrow and is ready to start throwing off the mound “Twenty-five fastballs, I’m feeling great,” he said.

The Yankees, he said, told him in November that he would be a starting pitcher and he has been preparing for that. “It’s a relief to have it all settled,” he said.

Joba had dinner with CC Sabathia in December and gushed about his personality. “Tremendous guy,” he said. “People are going to love him.”

I need to get cracking on my newspaper story. But Joba looks good and he’ll be on the mound soon.

(By the way, not a half-bad photo with the new iPhone, huh?)

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107 Responses to “Joba: I’m ready to start”

  1. Ryan January 27th, 2009 at 8:35 pm

    “Joba had dinner with CC Sabathia in December and gushed about his personality.”

    “Chicken wing shortage ahead of Super Bowl”

    Coincidence?

  2. DT January 27th, 2009 at 8:38 pm

    First Joba was doing a Vegas demo with Ortiz.

    Now he’s going back to college with Lester.

    Hmmmm…Next we will find out he had dinner with CC only because Youk and Beckett stood him up.

    Joba has become Moe Berg! (if you are saying Moe who? – stop sleeping thru history class)

  3. yankeefan91 Arod fan January 27th, 2009 at 8:44 pm

    i wish joba kan keep the beard but i noe the yanks aint gonna let him

  4. Tarheelyank January 27th, 2009 at 8:48 pm

    Whats the deal on Wright, Does cashman have a window to trade him?

  5. Tom January 27th, 2009 at 8:50 pm

    I think he has 10 days to be traded. If Wright is not traded and passes through waivers, Wright goes to Scranton. I think.

  6. ANSKY January 27th, 2009 at 8:50 pm

    Well Joba looks a lot better. Not because he’s suddenly got himself into shape in the last two weeks, but because the clothes he’s wearing actually fit him.

    A few weeks ago people were making it sound like he was in shape for a David Wells-sized uniform. I hope people weren’t expecting him to have the same build as Pujols, Rickey Being Rickey or Andre Dawson. He looks like he’s ready and his condition won’t be a problem.

    Anyways, it’s great to know they told him in November that he’d be starting. Any rotation can suddenly be riddled with injuries. Every rotation will have some aches or smaller injuries at least. As long as they’re a minimum we’ve got a real talented rotation ready to roll.

    Think about it … Andy Pettitte and AJ Burnett are probably the two pitchers we need to worry about. And neither is in bad shape. Pettitte may not be what he used to be but with what he still has in the tank we’re in a good position if he’s the 5th best starter we have going into ST.

    In the past couple years ago we’ve needed guys like Chase Wright, Kei Igawa, Sidney Ponson & Darrel Rasner in the rotation. With Pettitte being our 5th best pitcher, we don’t even need those guys on the 40-man or anywhere in the system anymore.

    Well we never really needed Igawa for any reason other than he has a heartbeat and a left arm, but that’s an old rant we needn’t go into again.

  7. Tarheelyank January 27th, 2009 at 8:53 pm

    Thanks Tom

  8. Bronx Jeers January 27th, 2009 at 8:54 pm

    Moe Berg?

    Isn’t that the guy who got shot through the eye when Michael was attending Connie’s kids baptism? The guy that “smacked” Fredo around?

    Where is Fredo anyway?

  9. GreenBeret7 January 27th, 2009 at 8:56 pm

    DT
    January 27th, 2009 at 8:38 pm
    First Joba was doing a Vegas demo with Ortiz.

    Now he’s going back to college with Lester.

    Hmmmm…Next we will find out he had dinner with CC only because Youk and Beckett stood him up.

    Joba has become Moe Berg! (if you are saying Moe who? – stop sleeping thru history class)

    ————————————————————

    I thought that I was the only one that referenced Moe Berg. Very good book about him, “The Catcher Was A Spy”.

  10. Buddy Biancalana January 27th, 2009 at 8:59 pm

    What happened to Dr.Acula?

  11. Sean Serritella January 27th, 2009 at 8:59 pm

    Isn’t Fredo sleeping with the fishes?

  12. S.A.-Brian "The Ninja" Cashman: Showing free agents lots of love January 27th, 2009 at 9:04 pm

    Joba looks good

  13. DT January 27th, 2009 at 9:09 pm

    GreenBeret7
    January 27th, 2009 at 8:56 pm

    I thought that I was the only one that referenced Moe Berg. Very good book about him, “The Catcher Was A Spy”.

    Ding Ding Ding. We have a winner.
    Johnny. tell him what he has won!

    GB you have won a dugout spy camera, a bullpen covert listening device and night vision Yankee goggles. Congrats!

  14. you gotta have faith (pettite where art thou?) January 27th, 2009 at 9:09 pm

    love joba, and im jealous of everyone that was there! :(

  15. CENTRAL CT YANKEE January 27th, 2009 at 9:10 pm

    The guy in the picture looks like Ryan Ward

  16. S.o.S. January 27th, 2009 at 9:10 pm

    “What happened to Dr.Acula?”

    I do miss the eye candy he had on his site. Maybe moved up and owns Silletto?

  17. NO HYPE January 27th, 2009 at 9:11 pm

    Well I hope Fredo is using protection

  18. Tom January 27th, 2009 at 9:13 pm

    Anybody have any book recommendations?

    Also, let me say I’m being serious, this was not a Torre joke.

  19. Nick in SF January 27th, 2009 at 9:15 pm

    “The Yankees, he said, told him in November that he would be a starting pitcher and he has been preparing for that. “It’s a *relief* to have it all settled,” he said.”

    What a wiseguy.

  20. asburyboss January 27th, 2009 at 9:16 pm

    Outlaw Pete

  21. GreenBeret7 January 27th, 2009 at 9:18 pm

    What kind of books are you looking for, Tom?

  22. JoeyA January 27th, 2009 at 9:18 pm

    Bronx Jeers-
    That’s Moe Green.

  23. Alex January 27th, 2009 at 9:20 pm

    Brett Pedroia, the older brother of Dustin Pedroia, has been accused of child molestation in CA!

    http://www.bostonherald.com/sp.....8;srvc=rss

  24. JoeyA January 27th, 2009 at 9:21 pm

    As long as Joba stays away from two people on that team, I could care less about the rest of them…

    Pedroia and Papelbon

  25. DT January 27th, 2009 at 9:21 pm

    Nick in SF
    January 27th, 2009 at 9:15 pm
    “The Yankees, he said, told him in November that he would be a starting pitcher and he has been preparing for that. “It’s a *relief* to have it all settled,” he said.”
    What a wiseguy.

    Yes, Joba issues some *closure*.

  26. Kevin (not that Kevin) Brown January 27th, 2009 at 9:23 pm

    Joba looks great and if they can manage his innings it could be the breakthrough year for him and the team. On the other hand there’s this from Cash re: Mo and Jorge:

    “I do have concerns because I have a closer who we desperately need who is coming off shoulder surgery, no matter how minor it may be,” Cashman said. “And I have a catcher who is a perennial All-Star and one of the premier players at that position in this game, and a Hall of Fame candidate, who we need to come back. We’re keeping our fingers crossed for both of those players.”

    “We’re keeping our fingers crossed”?! Yikes. For all the spending we did the last two years, we really have no legit back-ups for either of them, now that Joba is a starter.

  27. NYYanksFan January 27th, 2009 at 9:23 pm

    There’s no “I” in team.

    “The Dodgers’ annual winter caravan, in which players and coaches drum up excitement for the coming season with public appearances and visits to hospitals and schools, is scheduled for next Tuesday and Wednesday. Torre won’t be there. He is scheduled to appear on David Letterman’s show to pitch his book.”

    http://latimesblogs.latimes.co.....-cara.html

  28. Nick in SF January 27th, 2009 at 9:24 pm

    Good one, DT. I guess that was really *set* *up* for you.

  29. Bronx Jeers January 27th, 2009 at 9:26 pm

    Seriously,

    I kid because a lot what was made of Joba’s bout with the law and because he looked sorta chubby at his last appearance but I think this kid’s the most exciting thing to come down the Yankee pike in a long time.

    Sure he got himself busted but he’s got a dad that cares AND a kid of his own that should put him on the straight and narrow real quick. And posters may lament that his gut is lookin gorged in some photo ops but to that I say have you not seen the guy play yet. It’s not like he’s got Oil Can Boyd’s physique. That’s his body and it works for him.

    And some still think the pen’s his place and he’s Mo’s heir apparent. Hey only time will tell but this season’s he’s a starter and he’s gonna be a starter until one of two things becomes true.

    1. His shoulder proves to troublesome to handle the rogors of starting or

    2. The Yanks have 5 better options than him.

    What is it 18 days to pitchers and catchers? The future’s lookin good for the Yanks and their fans.

  30. DT January 27th, 2009 at 9:26 pm

    There is no “I” in team, but there is a “me”.

  31. Bronx Jeers January 27th, 2009 at 9:27 pm

    rigors- sorry

  32. Tom January 27th, 2009 at 9:27 pm

    Just about anything, GB. My stock of christmas/birthday gifts has run out.

    The last 5 book I’ve read were about Jack the Ripper, Andrew Jackson, the inevitably of death (Philip Roth novel), the Franco-Prussian War and time travel.

  33. B-D-4 subway straphanger January 27th, 2009 at 9:27 pm

    The 8th inning role can be solved if Mark Melancon steps up and claims it this spring in a similar idea to when Mo was the bridge to John Wetteland. Other options exist but Melancon can be a special pitcher.

  34. gayle January 27th, 2009 at 9:29 pm

    One other thing that I think was neg;ected to be mentioned in the re-signing of Andy is the effect it might have on AJ Burnett. One of the things you heard about was how Burnett really bought into Doc Halliday and his workout regime and we all know that Andy is also a fanatic when it comes to his workouts. If AJ latches onto Andy not only to be his workout partner but Andy I think could also be a nig help in the adjustment to New York I hink this is a good thing.

  35. Nick in SF January 27th, 2009 at 9:30 pm

    Wow, it’s just looking worse and worse for our former skipper. At this point Joe Torre could cure cancer and everyone here would say he just did it to save his own butt.

    Well, you know what I mean.

  36. DT January 27th, 2009 at 9:30 pm

    Nick in SF
    January 27th, 2009 at 9:24 pm
    Good one, DT. I guess that was really *set up* for you.

    Look what you *started* Nick.

    I’d *finish*, but I’ve *saved* the last one for you.

  37. Tom January 27th, 2009 at 9:34 pm

    You guys have quite the little pun rotation going don’t you?

  38. Alyssa January 27th, 2009 at 9:35 pm

    “Where is Dr.Acula?”

    He was soooo funny.

  39. T15D23 January 27th, 2009 at 9:35 pm

    If Joba is a starter he will be on the DL by June.

    The guy I worry about is AJ “Carl Pavano” Burnett. For what we are paying this one season wonder, he better stay healthy.

    And I can’t wait to get Torre’s book. The same guy who managed us into the post season for 12 years, you remember him (unlike the real clueless Joe we have now).

  40. S.o.S. January 27th, 2009 at 9:36 pm

    Ten Little Indians or sometimes called And Then There Was One from Agatha Christy. Good Mystery. There was actually a 50′s movie about it that GB probably saw.

  41. DT January 27th, 2009 at 9:39 pm

    I’m not going to help line Torre’s pockets with money by buying his book – but I would like to hear how he dances around the entire Sheff/Giambi PED issue.

    I have a feeling if Verducci asked him about his knowledge of the situation or the Mitchell report he’d say “oh, Kevin was a darn good hitter, keep the fastball away.”

  42. S.o.S. January 27th, 2009 at 9:42 pm

    DT,Nick,
    Can one of you needs to NAIL IT DOWN already.

  43. GreenBeret7 January 27th, 2009 at 9:43 pm

    Tom
    January 27th, 2009 at 9:27 pm
    Just about anything, GB. My stock of christmas/birthday gifts has run out.

    The last 5 book I’ve read were about Jack the Ripper, Andrew Jackson, the inevitably of death (Philip Roth novel), the Franco-Prussian War and time travel.

    ————————————————————

    Tom, any thing by Shelby Foote is great.

    Tournament
    Follow Me Down
    Love in a Dry Season
    Shiloh: A Novel
    Jordan County: A Landscape in Narrative
    September, September

    The Civil War: A Narrative

    The Civil War: A Narrative. Vol 1: Fort Sumter to Perryville

    The Civil War: A Narrative. Vol 2: Fredericksburg to Meridian

    The Civil War: A Narrative. Vol 3: Red River to Appomattox

    The Catcher Was A Spy: The Mysterious Life Of Moe Berg, by Nicholas Dawidoff.

    Explosion, by Mark Gallagher (complete stories of Mantle’s home runs)

    To Hell and Back, by Audie L. Murphy

  44. NYYanksFan January 27th, 2009 at 9:45 pm

    “I would like to hear how he dances around the entire Sheff/Giambi PED issue.”

    He doesn’t touch anything steroid related. That part is all Verducci.

  45. Al from BK(16 days til P&C!) January 27th, 2009 at 9:46 pm

    Joba looks like a wise-guy with that goatee. Yanks should let him keep it, it would add to his persona.

  46. Nick in SF January 27th, 2009 at 9:52 pm

    Sorry, S.o.S., my funny bone feels Proctoresque right now.

    I blame Joe Torre.

  47. Tom January 27th, 2009 at 9:52 pm

    I’m going to pick up the Mo Berg book. Thanks, GB. You’re 100 percent right about Foote, he was a great novelist and historian. Thanks again

  48. BarryLane January 27th, 2009 at 9:53 pm

    Agatha Christie’s story was filmed four times; 1945, 1966, 1975 and 1989. The first version is generally considered the most successful.

    Barry Lane

  49. S.o.S. January 27th, 2009 at 9:53 pm

    “To Hell and Back, by Audie L. Murphy”

    I didnt know Audie Murphy wrote books.
    That title looks like something that would have Joe Torre’s name next to it.

  50. Tom January 27th, 2009 at 9:56 pm

    10 little indians was a great book.

  51. GreenBeret7 January 27th, 2009 at 10:00 pm

    S.o.S.
    January 27th, 2009 at 9:36 pm
    Ten Little Indians or sometimes called And Then There Was One from Agatha Christy. Good Mystery. There was actually a 50’s movie about it that GB probably saw.

    ————————————————————

    Yeah, I’ve seen both versions. The first version was “And Then There was None” from the middle late 40s and a remake called “Ten Little Indians” from the mid-60s. It also had another name used in Europe that had to be changed because of the racist title.

  52. Scott January 27th, 2009 at 10:02 pm

    First, DT’s post was hilarious and exactly on the mark! Secondly, but probably most importantly, Pete-Abe continues to show why he’s the best Yankees blogger. Looking forward to getting past the guest bloggers to get to the real man, but this site is a must-read for any Yankees fan.

  53. S.o.S. January 27th, 2009 at 10:04 pm

    “10 little indians was a great book.”

    Damn thats the only small words book i know. Have you read all dr.Seus books?

    Have a good evening fellas.

  54. GreenBeret7 January 27th, 2009 at 10:05 pm

    My pleasure, Tom. You’ll enjoy the Moe Berg bio.

  55. GreenBeret7 January 27th, 2009 at 10:08 pm

    S.o.S.
    January 27th, 2009 at 9:53 pm
    “To Hell and Back, by Audie L. Murphy”

    I didnt know Audie Murphy wrote books.
    That title looks like something that would have Joe Torre’s name next to it.

    ————————————————————

    SoS, that’s the only book that Murphy wrote..it was his autobiography. Damned fine movie, too. The greatest soldier the US ever had. The most decorated soldier/Marine/Sailor in US history.

  56. Ninja Burglar January 27th, 2009 at 10:10 pm

    …and the title was???

  57. Nick in SF January 27th, 2009 at 10:14 pm

    “To the Mound And Back” by Joe Torre with Tanyon Sturtze

  58. m January 27th, 2009 at 10:22 pm

    *War and Pieces of My Elbow”

    *By the way, I honestly don’t even pay attention to ESPN because I know they have a pretty strong Sox bias.* – ray (red sox fan)

    We’ve almost got him. Keep working him, guys.

  59. jennifer January 27th, 2009 at 10:22 pm

    Anyone know which quotes are attributed to Mussina in the book?

  60. DT January 27th, 2009 at 10:24 pm

    10 little Indians.

    If Pedroia had signed with Cleveland, they would have to change the title.

  61. Tarheelyank January 27th, 2009 at 10:28 pm

    “To Hell (with thier arms) and backs”

  62. Needle nose January 27th, 2009 at 10:32 pm

    “and we all know that Andy is also a fanatic when it comes to his workouts.”

    Yeah let’s praise this guy for fixing his elbow with “workouts” he got from McNamee.

  63. Kevin (not that Kevin) Brown January 27th, 2009 at 10:33 pm

    I highly recommend MANHUNT by James L. Swanson, about the 12 days it took to track down John Wilkes Booth after he assassinated Lincoln. A non-fiction book that reads like a thriller.

  64. David January 27th, 2009 at 10:34 pm

    New plan released by Girardi, on the advice of Kevin Kernan of the NY Post: Joba will be the 8th inning reliever, CC will pitch the 7th, Burnett the 6th, Wang has 5th inning duties, Pettitte will pitch the 4th, the Hughes, Aceves and Kennedy will make a three man rotation to ‘start’ games for three innings. The Yankees should win 158 this year!

    Sound smart to anyone?

  65. m January 27th, 2009 at 10:34 pm

    jennifer,

    The ones that threw Alex under the bus? Just kidding.

    It does seem that we’ve overreacted a little to the book and its alleged contents.

    However, Torre does not get a pass from me. To say potentially embarrassing things about your associates is just wrong, even if it was done in an indirect (3rd person) manner.

    Does it pass the mom test? In this case the Mama Torre test? Would she be proud of her son and look upon the tome as an achievement?

    If my son, my fabulously wealthy son, wrote a book like that, I’d be ashamed. Does Torre not know that any parent would be mortified about leaving their child behind? Torre claims the word “betrayed” is not used in the book in reference to Cashman, but he must’ve said something to that effect.

    The book is supposedly a fabulous read, but I don’t want to read dirt. Even if there’s just a “smidge”.

    http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/.....id=3863517

  66. ANSKY January 27th, 2009 at 10:36 pm

    David – Well thet thar shore is one guud way ta keep Joba’s innunz down ta 162 fer duh seezin! Gaww-lee!

  67. kill-schill(ing) January 27th, 2009 at 10:37 pm

    Not signing Bernie in 2007 was a good decision, really? You sure you want to reprise this debate?

    Cashman-the-money-ball-Theo-wanna-be studied all his stats and discovered that it was better for the Yankees’ Opening Day roster to have FOUR players—- waiit, how many– yes, FOUR PLAYERS WHO COULD PLAY 1B, GIAMBI, MINKY, PHELPS and CAIRO- (and wait don’t forget Andy Phillips on the DL)- and FOUR OUTFIELDERS and NO BERNIE.

    Yeah, that was a smart decision.

    Cashman, go back to college and take a statistics course before you start relying upon them.

    Stats serve as a tool for the GM. It appears, alas, the stats have turned our GM into a tool.

  68. jennifer January 27th, 2009 at 10:39 pm

    I keep hearing that Mussina contributed but have yet to see any quotes from him.

  69. Tarheelyank January 27th, 2009 at 10:46 pm

    “Anyone know which quotes are attributed to Mussina in the book?”

    Anyone know a 6 letter word for hypochoondriac

    p a v a n o

  70. jennifer January 27th, 2009 at 10:48 pm

    Was that 12 across?

  71. CaptainClutch January 27th, 2009 at 10:49 pm

    I would be very surprised if Mussina said anything rude about anyone in the book and especially if it was about Mo. He does not seem like that kind of person at all. You would think if he did that it would of made the newspapers already.

  72. jennifer January 27th, 2009 at 10:51 pm

    Yeah I’d be surprised as well. In fact I am shocked he would lend quotes to Joe’s book given how upset he was with how his being taken out of the rotation was handled.

  73. m January 27th, 2009 at 10:54 pm

    Now I would definitely read the book if Torre had a chapter written in the first person. “Things I’d Do Differently”

  74. jennifer January 27th, 2009 at 10:58 pm

    m-

    first chapter is “The Credit I take for winning 4 WS”

    second chapter is “2004-2007 wasn’t my fault”

    third chapter- “It is all A-Frauds fault”

    fourth chapter- “Those selfish players”

    fifth chapter- “Players who needed Andy Pettitte to drive their family home”

  75. Tarheelyank January 27th, 2009 at 11:01 pm

    Replay of Hot Stove is on MLB.

  76. jennifer January 27th, 2009 at 11:05 pm

    sixth chapter- Cashman the backstabber

    seventh chapter- The Yankees run by idiots

    eighty chapter- My best players

    ninth chapter- How 2001 was Arods fault

  77. Rebecca--Optimist Prime--Staying to write the story January 27th, 2009 at 11:08 pm

    I was there tonight.

    As it was, I actually sat three rows up in the bleachers, right behind Pete.

    Funny how that works, huh?

  78. jennifer January 27th, 2009 at 11:18 pm

    Too funny,

  79. pat January 27th, 2009 at 11:21 pm

    jennifer-

    This is the only thing I’ve seen with Mooses name. Sounds like he will be quoted.

    “Torre, Borzello, Mussina and David Cone provide insights in the book as to what went wrong, on how the replacements for Paul O’Neill, Tino Martinez and Scott Brosius were all flawed in some aspect.”

  80. Harry G January 27th, 2009 at 11:21 pm

    Hey look! It’s an old friend!

    http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/.....9#28862623

    Is anybody else surprised that this punk is stickin up for Torre?! Whaddya mean “He doesn’t kill Cashman that bad, he doesn’t kill the Yankees”??? WHAT? Which book R U readin? It’s funny how all these Yankee haters R tryin to downplay Torre’s classlesness now that he’s severed his ties with the Yanks. He’s da guy they could point to and say, “Hey, look, the Yankees don’t even treat Torre nicely. He’s such a classy guy, won four world series with them, and this is how they treat him? This is a disgrace!” But now that Torre’s airing all this dirty laundry, he’s showing his true colors, so their whole argument is for naught. What in the world do U mean “We all knew that A-Rod was A-Fraud anyway, so what difference does it make?” What? That’s not the point!!! The point is that Torre has always preached that the clubhouse is a sacred place and that stuff shoud remain in-house. Now he goes and dishes out drek while he’s still in the game and his former players are still in the game?! What a hypocrite!!!! The fact that “we all knew A-Rod was A-Fraud anyway” has nothing to do with it (Although the only way we know that anyway is because Torre already dissed A-Rod publicly in Sports Illustrated 2 years ago http://vault.sportsillustrated...../index.htm), Torre still shows that he has a mean streak to him.

    It’s amazing as to what lengths these Yankee-Haters/Torre-Apologists will go to minimize any wrongdoing by St. Joe. I love how they’re all busy “Let’s read the book first.” What? There are huge excerpts available at SI.com and elswhere where you can read the whole Cashman thing in context. You can see exactly how Torre rips the front office and Cashman. What else do we need to know before we’re allowed to have an opinon on it?! Oh my god, but dear someone criticize Saint Joe.

    Oh, and you thought Lupica was going to admit St. Joe did anything wrong? No way. It can’t be. Joe didn’t do anything wrong. The Big Bad Yankees front office is wrong. Instead, after reminding us several times “Let’s wait until we read the book,” he takes the “Cashman left Torre out in the cold when he needed him most” angle.
    http://www.nydailynews.com/spo.....to_ma.html

    Oh, so Lupic-Ass is already allowed to make judgments and write his opinion on how Cash betrayed Torre (cue the “he never said ‘Betrayed’ ” comments in defense of St. Joe, which btw Torre is already using as his excuse… http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/.....id=3863517, I mean, seriously Joe, you think we’re THAT stupid?! Is anybody gonna buy his lame excuses? What a coward. Hiding behind “It’s not a autobiography, it’s a thrid-person narrative BS…) but we’re not allowed to criticize Torre.
    My god, I just can’t stand Lupica. My blood boils when I read his Yankee-Hating nonsense.

    Again, it’s amazing how they all love Joe now, but keep hatin’ on the Yanks. They point out at every opportunity how the Yanks haven’t won a title since 2000, all the first-round exits, blah, blah, blah, and blame it all on Cashman and the front office. In the next breath, it’s “They kicked out a guy who won four World Series and took them to 12 straight post-seasons. He wasn’t good enough for them.” Wait a min. He only gets credit for winning but doesn’t get criticized when they lose?! He was on the 2000-2007 team as well! The fact that they haven’t won since 2000 is just as much his fault then the front office’s!!! If he gets credit for winning those titles, he shoud get criticized just like anybody else for the first-round exits.

    No, because those BIg Bad Yankees “disrespected”‘ him on his way out, all of a sudden he’s the good guy and everything is their fault. The only reason the Yankee-Haters like him now is because he’s joined forces with them and he’s now on the same side with them, the “Everything is the Big Bad Yankees’ fault” side. If Torre would’ve retired and ended his Yankee career normally, this whole love-fest wouldn’t be goin on. He would’ve been hated just like all the Yankees of the dynasty are, by all the Yankee-Haters, the same ppl who scream “The Yankees spend half a million dollars in this economy and they have the audacity to ask NYC for taxpayers money?!” (this guy is one example.
    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.c.....als/5.html
    – The peice I mean is “b.” of “10. I think these are my non-football thoughts of the week:” at the lower half of the page… Never mind that he’s an unabashed Sux fan… I’m sure that has nothing to do with it…)
    Even though the Yanks will be paying back every penny of the money and the only reason they’re asking the city for money is because they can’t lay out the whole $1.3 billion plus at once. That doesn’t matter. As long as it sounds good to rip the Big Bad Yankees.
    It irks me. It just plain irks me.

  81. Bronx Jeers January 27th, 2009 at 11:25 pm

    The Joba segment is running on MLB right now.

    Yeah what is he talking about seeing his name on the back of the uniform?

    Great..he’s moved past vodka and beer and is entering the realm of hallucinogenics.

    Still he looks good.

  82. pat January 27th, 2009 at 11:25 pm

    m

    If it makes you feel better, Bernie forgot his wife at the Stadium after clinching a WS. I wish I was kidding but I’m not. It’s in the book.

  83. m January 27th, 2009 at 11:27 pm

    pat,

    Who took her home?

    Early onset for Bernie?

  84. pat January 27th, 2009 at 11:32 pm

    m

    “Another time, after the clinching game of a World Series, Williams drove home without his wife. Waleska Williams was left standing in the waiting room with trainer Steve Donahue.”

    The funny thing is Bernie rode his motorcycle to the Stadium alot. You’d think if he saw he had a car that day it would be a reminder he probably had someone with him on the trip in.

  85. Nick in SF January 27th, 2009 at 11:33 pm

    I wonder if Pedro ever forgot his dwarf buddy at Fenway.

  86. Bronx Jeers January 27th, 2009 at 11:34 pm

    Maybe Andy drove her home.

    Bernie was always seemed a bit aloof no?

  87. pat January 27th, 2009 at 11:35 pm

    “how the replacements for Paul O’Neill, Tino Martinez and Scott Brosius were all flawed in some aspect.”

    Does that mean that O’Neill, Martinez and Brosius were not flawed in some aspect?

  88. Betsy January 27th, 2009 at 11:36 pm

    http://blogs.trb.com/sports/ba.....ndenc.html

    This is an excellent blog post by Davidoff…

  89. DT January 27th, 2009 at 11:37 pm

    Poor Bernie.

    I wonder if he had painful flashbacks whenever he came to the plate with runners in scoring position.

    All his teammates were in the dugout yelling
    “Come on Bernie! You can do it. Drive them home!”

  90. Bronx Jeers January 27th, 2009 at 11:38 pm

    I never realized Pedro and Pedroia were tight like that.

  91. m January 27th, 2009 at 11:43 pm

    I have a mean, mean joke about Pedroia. But it’s insensitive because molestation’s no laughing matter.

    Let’s just laugh at Pedroia instead.

  92. RS January 27th, 2009 at 11:45 pm

    Since Torre is so intent on letting us know how flawed the Yankees teams were this past decade, I suppose we should change his legacy from “the manager who led the Yankees to glory” to “the manager who was at the helm when the Yankees broke down and the Red Sox surpassed them.”

    Seriously, it’s sickening that people still want to give Joe so much credit for the 4 rings and think it’s perfectly fine that he’s writing a book about how the PLAYERS and FRONT OFFICE led to the Yankees’ downfall. All he’s doing is throwing everybody else under the bus.

  93. DT January 27th, 2009 at 11:48 pm

    What’s next?

    Forgetful Bernie once left his guitar standing outside, alone and frightened near the curb on a dark Bronx night?

  94. Betsy January 27th, 2009 at 11:50 pm

    M, I don’t think we’ve overreacted. IMO, the excerpts are absolutely damning. Whether they take up 2, 5 or 199 pages of the book, the words are still out there. Joe not only violated the trust of his former players, he despicably chose to play dime-store psychiatrist for Chuck Knoblauch (and, to a lesser extent, Randy Johnson). Chuck has been out of the game for years – driven out of the game by the yips. Was it necessary to drag his name through the mud? It’s not his fault what happened to him – and hde was a key contributor to WS teams. What he wrote about George beggars a description; for that alone, I’m not sure that I can forgive him.

  95. Betsy January 27th, 2009 at 11:53 pm

    M, oops – I know you were basically agreeing with me. The Bernie story is just so ridiculous. What exactly was the point in revealing this? To hurt Bernie? Torre is like a gossiping junior high school girl – I picture him rubbing his hands and chuckling evily as he tells these tales to Verducci, lol.

  96. jerome ave 4 train January 28th, 2009 at 12:18 am

    Has anyone here read this book yet ??? Or are all these comments based on hear say ….And Torre is being charged with what exactly….Wait until you’ve read this book yoyrself rather than being led around by the opinions of a few…..I’m really stunned and disappointed by the responses from several people here that I have grown to respect over the past few years…..Lynch mob mentality….

  97. CaptainClutch January 28th, 2009 at 12:18 am

    I really don’t understand why Torre would write this book. For what a couple of million dollars??!! For him to say anything negative about George is absolutely disgusting. Not only because of what George did for him but I would like to see what Torre is like at George’s age. If I was in the Dodgers organization I would watch myself. I could only imagine what he will have to say about that team in 5 years in “Torre does Hollywood”. Let me guess how cheap they are, how Andruw Jones ate all of Calif. Everyone says that Torre would always say whatever happens in the club house stays there. Well I guess not for the right price. And everyone thought he was the great Uncle Joe…..

  98. jfh915 January 28th, 2009 at 12:20 am

    Torre is in LA. We root for NY. Move on.

  99. jerome ave 4 train January 28th, 2009 at 12:25 am

    People write books so events are recorded in history….

  100. rick January 28th, 2009 at 6:23 am

    If Joba pitches 160 innings, he will have nearly 200 k’s. Not bad for a #4 starter or #5 starter. This starting staff could have three pitchers with 200 or more K’s. Imagine how good this staff is good. Plus the Yankees have Hughes and if Kennedy figures out how to pitch in the bigs….two major league starting pitchers sitting in the wings.
    This team is loaded. Player for player there is no team as stocked as them.

  101. rover January 28th, 2009 at 8:19 am

    Personally I would like to see jobas stike out ratio come down just a bit, not alot but a bit. Strike out pitchers seem to throw a lot of pitches. It would be in his interest not to have this happen. Now with guys in scoring position there is a need to bear down and get the strike out. Overall I prefer the poorly hit ball in play putout. Saves wear and tear. Not as exiciting though.

  102. Where's Dr.A? January 28th, 2009 at 10:48 am

    //What happened to Dr.Acula?/

    Him and Pete are closet Red Sox fans. Except Dr. A has come out of the closet!

  103. NHYankee62 January 28th, 2009 at 3:26 pm

    Well said Captain Clutch.

    Very few in the media other than Pete, most of the NY papers, Kay, and Buster Olney have gotten this one right. For the other excuse makers talking about the book being in the third person, it doesn’t matter, Torre’s name is on it; he’s responsible for everything in it. As Olney pointed out in his article yesterday, Torre criticized David Wells for the same exact thing (trying to hide behind a ghostwriter).

    Talk about being a hypocrite!

  104. trisha - Joe Torre is a major league fraud February 5th, 2009 at 10:31 am

    Hey all! Stopping by for a little brunch. :)

  105. trisha - Joe Torre is a major league fraud February 5th, 2009 at 10:32 am

    I’m not a breakfast eater, never have been. I think it’s because I’m a total night owl and probably eat dinner when most people are getting ready to go to bed! So by the time morning rolls around I’m still full.

  106. trisha - Joe Torre is a major league fraud February 5th, 2009 at 10:36 am

    While I can’t stand smugness in people (well, maybe just other people…) there are times when I just can’t help buy roll it out. And this is one of the times, with respect to Barry Bonds. As with Clemens, I was not here for any Bonds chatter, so this couldn’t be personal even if I wanted it to. But for all the posters I fought with on other forums, HELLL-OOOOO!!!!!

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