Comments on: Yankees have not reached FA quota http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2009/01/30/yankees-can-sign-whoever-they-want/ A New York Yankees blog by Sam Borden, Chad Jennings and the staff of The Journal News Tue, 16 Mar 2010 13:27:18 -0400 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: bodhisattva http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2009/01/30/yankees-can-sign-whoever-they-want/comment-page-5/#comment-652322 bodhisattva Sat, 31 Jan 2009 00:31:19 +0000 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/?p=6506#comment-652322 E-Man January 30th, 2009 at 4:05 pm “E-Man January 30th, 2009 at 3:39 pm “E-Man I think you are helping to sell Manny! LOL! I like that!” I’d take Abreu over Manny. XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX I can't for the life of me understand why. I love Abreu - sans defense. He's an extraordinary hitter, he really is. He can also run - unusual for a player his age; and he's got some power, hits for average and is utterly serene with two strikes on him. But Manny is just otherworldly. He's just a better hitter, hands down. Manny as a 5-hitter, as YankeeRay continues to lobby for, would just be an obscene run producer on our team, because he would so enhance an already existing propensity among the guys in front of him for getting on base: RISP: .329/.454/.607/1.061 2out: .314/.463/.604/1.067 E-Man
January 30th, 2009 at 4:05 pm
“E-Man
January 30th, 2009 at 3:39 pm
“E-Man
I think you are helping to sell Manny! LOL! I like that!”
I’d take Abreu over Manny.

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I can’t for the life of me understand why. I love Abreu – sans defense. He’s an extraordinary hitter, he really is. He can also run – unusual for a player his age; and he’s got some power, hits for average and is utterly serene with two strikes on him.

But Manny is just otherworldly. He’s just a better hitter, hands down.

Manny as a 5-hitter, as YankeeRay continues to lobby for, would just be an obscene run producer on our team, because he would so enhance an already existing propensity among the guys in front of him for getting on base:

RISP: .329/.454/.607/1.061
2out: .314/.463/.604/1.067

]]> By: bodhisattva http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2009/01/30/yankees-can-sign-whoever-they-want/comment-page-5/#comment-652315 bodhisattva Sat, 31 Jan 2009 00:21:00 +0000 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/?p=6506#comment-652315 E-Man January 30th, 2009 at 7:00 pm “We are not talking about average Abreu and Dunn seasons. We are talking about Abreu and Dunn’s 2009. Look at their last two years and tell me Abreu is a superior hitter today. You do realize that a high K total is not a significant problem for a hitter who gets on base at a .385 clip, right? And that hitting a home run is the best thing a hitter can do?” A High K total is significant if you plan to use the guy as your #5. His OBP is worthless when you have players in scoring position. Who cares if he can walk to first? XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX Right. Look at Dunn w/RISP and RISP w/2 out: RISP: .225/.416/.474/.890 2out:.214/.440/.443/.883 Abreu: RISP: .315/.439/.530/.968 2out:..303/..463/.494/.956 Abreu has high OBP AND moves runners. Also has better OPS. Dunn's a statue w/some power. Abreu's a ballplayer. A superior ballplayer. E-Man
January 30th, 2009 at 7:00 pm
“We are not talking about average Abreu and Dunn seasons. We are talking about Abreu and Dunn’s 2009. Look at their last two years and tell me Abreu is a superior hitter today.
You do realize that a high K total is not a significant problem for a hitter who gets on base at a .385 clip, right? And that hitting a home run is the best thing a hitter can do?”

A High K total is significant if you plan to use the guy as your #5. His OBP is worthless when you have players in scoring position. Who cares if he can walk to first?

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Right. Look at Dunn w/RISP and RISP w/2 out:

RISP: .225/.416/.474/.890
2out:.214/.440/.443/.883

Abreu:

RISP: .315/.439/.530/.968
2out:..303/..463/.494/.956

Abreu has high OBP AND moves runners. Also has better OPS.

Dunn’s a statue w/some power.
Abreu’s a ballplayer. A superior ballplayer.

]]> By: bodhisattva http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2009/01/30/yankees-can-sign-whoever-they-want/comment-page-5/#comment-652303 bodhisattva Sat, 31 Jan 2009 00:09:21 +0000 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/?p=6506#comment-652303 YankeeRay January 30th, 2009 at 11:47 am So now I get another 2 weeks of Manny dreaming. Though it was just a 40 man march by Mets fans it still pissed me off. When I look at their line up I don’t see how they need Manny anymore than we do. Reyes,Beltran,Delgado and Wright Jeter,Tex,Arod After that we are both questionable though I will say we have more depth in Posada,Swisher, Matsui but as far as big guaranteed impact bats that are healthy? I think we need him in the 5th spot to solidify our march to the canyon. I’ll let up until Monday as I will enjoy Bruce at the Super Bowl and a weekend of coaching my travel team in a South Florida tournament. Miss the snow but love playing baseball year round. XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX No need to apologize for the Manny love. People seem to think we're loaded, but what does it say about him that signing him automatically makes him the best hitter on our team, if not the entire AL? No-brainer, Cash. YankeeRay
January 30th, 2009 at 11:47 am
So now I get another 2 weeks of Manny dreaming.
Though it was just a 40 man march by Mets fans it still pissed me off.
When I look at their line up I don’t see how they need Manny anymore than we do.
Reyes,Beltran,Delgado and Wright
Jeter,Tex,Arod
After that we are both questionable though I will say we have more depth in Posada,Swisher, Matsui but as far as big guaranteed impact bats that are healthy?
I think we need him in the 5th spot to solidify our march to the canyon.
I’ll let up until Monday as I will enjoy Bruce at the Super Bowl and a weekend of coaching my travel team in a South Florida tournament. Miss the snow but love playing baseball year round.

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No need to apologize for the Manny love. People seem to think we’re loaded, but what does it say about him that signing him automatically makes him the best hitter on our team, if not the entire AL?

No-brainer, Cash.

]]> By: E-Man http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2009/01/30/yankees-can-sign-whoever-they-want/comment-page-5/#comment-652299 E-Man Sat, 31 Jan 2009 00:00:44 +0000 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/?p=6506#comment-652299 "We are not talking about average Abreu and Dunn seasons. We are talking about Abreu and Dunn’s 2009. Look at their last two years and tell me Abreu is a superior hitter today. You do realize that a high K total is not a significant problem for a hitter who gets on base at a .385 clip, right? And that hitting a home run is the best thing a hitter can do?" A High K total is significant if you plan to use the guy as your #5. His OBP is worthless when you have players in scoring position. Who cares if he can walk to first? “We are not talking about average Abreu and Dunn seasons. We are talking about Abreu and Dunn’s 2009. Look at their last two years and tell me Abreu is a superior hitter today.

You do realize that a high K total is not a significant problem for a hitter who gets on base at a .385 clip, right? And that hitting a home run is the best thing a hitter can do?”

A High K total is significant if you plan to use the guy as your #5. His OBP is worthless when you have players in scoring position. Who cares if he can walk to first?

]]> By: Joseph DelGrippo http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2009/01/30/yankees-can-sign-whoever-they-want/comment-page-5/#comment-652235 Joseph DelGrippo Fri, 30 Jan 2009 22:21:13 +0000 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/?p=6506#comment-652235 Based upon my research (basically a phone call and 20 minute conversation), Bloom's original MLB.com article was incorrect and even his follow up of 8 FA is incorrect also. I spoke with Greg Bouris, Director of Communications at the MLB Players Association. He said the limit would be 12 Type A and B free agents can be signed by each team. Unrealistic that a team would change over half their roster during a given year via free agents, but it would be possible this season. This is based upon the number of players this season who elected to file for free agency which, according to Bouris, was 175 players. That number includes not only Type A and B free agents, but all major league FA's. He said the rough guideline is a team can sign one FA for every 14 players which have filed. Also, once a player files for FA, he is considered a "lost FA" in regards to amount of players who can be signed. According to Bouris, after this past season the Yankees had 9 "lost" FA's. He also said the limits are in place to stop a team from hoarding the available FA's if, say, only 10 players filed for FA in a given year. I told him with the guy with a similar sounding last name (Scott Boras), and his boss (Donald Fehr) that will never happen. I also would trust the MLBPA on this matter over MLB itself and the owners group. Based upon my research (basically a phone call and 20 minute conversation), Bloom’s original MLB.com article was incorrect and even his follow up of 8 FA is incorrect also.

I spoke with Greg Bouris, Director of Communications at the MLB Players Association.

He said the limit would be 12 Type A and B free agents can be signed by each team. Unrealistic that a team would change over half their roster during a given year via free agents, but it would be possible this season.

This is based upon the number of players this season who elected to file for free agency which, according to Bouris, was 175 players. That number includes not only Type A and B free agents, but all major league FA’s.

He said the rough guideline is a team can sign one FA for every 14 players which have filed.

Also, once a player files for FA, he is considered a “lost FA” in regards to amount of players who can be signed. According to Bouris, after this past season the Yankees had 9 “lost” FA’s.

He also said the limits are in place to stop a team from hoarding the available FA’s if, say, only 10 players filed for FA in a given year.

I told him with the guy with a similar sounding last name (Scott Boras), and his boss (Donald Fehr) that will never happen. I also would trust the MLBPA on this matter over MLB itself and the owners group.

]]> By: Steinbooga http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2009/01/30/yankees-can-sign-whoever-they-want/comment-page-5/#comment-652234 Steinbooga Fri, 30 Jan 2009 22:20:39 +0000 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/?p=6506#comment-652234 booga booga

]]> By: GreenBeret7 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2009/01/30/yankees-can-sign-whoever-they-want/comment-page-5/#comment-652150 GreenBeret7 Fri, 30 Jan 2009 21:24:17 +0000 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/?p=6506#comment-652150 In A ball, Posada was a skinny second basman, not a catcher. He still hadn't caught enough games for catching to stop him from running the next year. Not much of a comparison, is it? In A ball, Posada was a skinny second basman, not a catcher. He still hadn’t caught enough games for catching to stop him from running the next year. Not much of a comparison, is it?

]]> By: RayVTNC http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2009/01/30/yankees-can-sign-whoever-they-want/comment-page-5/#comment-652148 RayVTNC Fri, 30 Jan 2009 21:24:04 +0000 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/?p=6506#comment-652148 As a catcher myself albeit HS & College, footwork is key to catching runners. The arm strength is a nicety, that will make players think twice especially the best SB runners but it is the release time that makes the difference. A 95 MPH throw versus an 85 MPH throw is minute for 127.279 feet. The difference is in how long it takes to rise up, set your feet & length of arm motion to throw the ball. Bench was probably the greatest defensive catcher I've seen because he could throw from a squat and his feet were pre-set before he caught the ball. All catchers & Pitchers are timed by baserunners to see if they will be ultimately successfull. As a catcher myself albeit HS & College, footwork is key to catching runners. The arm strength is a nicety, that will make players think twice especially the best SB runners but it is the release time that makes the difference. A 95 MPH throw versus an 85 MPH throw is minute for 127.279 feet. The difference is in how long it takes to rise up, set your feet & length of arm motion to throw the ball. Bench was probably the greatest defensive catcher I’ve seen because he could throw from a squat and his feet were pre-set before he caught the ball. All catchers & Pitchers are timed by baserunners to see if they will be ultimately successfull.

]]> By: Jeremy http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2009/01/30/yankees-can-sign-whoever-they-want/comment-page-5/#comment-652144 Jeremy Fri, 30 Jan 2009 21:20:31 +0000 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/?p=6506#comment-652144 "Abreu averages more walks, more hits, the same amount of RBI’s and less strikeouts. Abreu is more of a solid hitter than Adam Dunn is." We are not talking about average Abreu and Dunn seasons. We are talking about Abreu and Dunn's 2009. Look at their last two years and tell me Abreu is a superior hitter today. You do realize that a high K total is not a significant problem for a hitter who gets on base at a .385 clip, right? And that hitting a home run is the best thing a hitter can do? “Abreu averages more walks, more hits, the same amount of RBI’s and less strikeouts. Abreu is more of a solid hitter than Adam Dunn is.”

We are not talking about average Abreu and Dunn seasons. We are talking about Abreu and Dunn’s 2009. Look at their last two years and tell me Abreu is a superior hitter today.

You do realize that a high K total is not a significant problem for a hitter who gets on base at a .385 clip, right? And that hitting a home run is the best thing a hitter can do?

]]> By: Wave Your Hat http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2009/01/30/yankees-can-sign-whoever-they-want/comment-page-5/#comment-652139 Wave Your Hat Fri, 30 Jan 2009 21:19:24 +0000 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/?p=6506#comment-652139 Tarheelyank, I started to add that there was nothing wrong with caring for animals, but then I thought that made me sound like a girlie man. Not that there's anything wrong with that, either. Tarheelyank,

I started to add that there was nothing wrong with caring for animals, but then I thought that made me sound like a girlie man.

Not that there’s anything wrong with that, either.

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