A few thoughts before bed …
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While Joe Torre was all over New York on Book-a-palooza, Brian Cashman apparently had breakfast with a Connecticut Chamber of Commerce. Dom Amore wrote a good story about Cashman’s visit for the Hartford Courant, and quotes him telling the crowd (which surely had some Sox fans in it) that the Yankees “won the winter.” Not that it means they’ll win the summer, Cash admitted.
Cashman also talked about year 2 of Joe Girardi’s tenure, mentioning that he hopes Girardi’s relationship with the media will be better. While that’s an issue that a lot of people downplay, it is a factor in New York; a manager’s credibility with the fans and his own players can fluctuate based on how he is perceived. Last year, Girardi wasn’t perceived as well as, say … Joe Torre.
“He did a fantastic job managing the games,” Cashman said of Girardi in the article, “one area that needs to get better is his relationship with the media. In another market, that’s not even an issue. It didn’t help him that the guy he followed was so successful with that.”
Now how about that segue????? See what I did there?
Speaking of Torre, I’ll try to put a bow on the Torre talk (for now) tomorrow morning when you’ll all see my column for The Journal News. But I thought this article, from Newsday’s Neil Best, was particularly interesting. Bob Costas, who is MLB Network’s newest personality, interviewed Torre in a piece that will air tomorrow night. Judging by what Best writes, it should be a good bit of TV.
Alright, I’m heading to bed. Great job again today, everyone. Good to see info being shared about the various interviews on radio, etc. When everyone pitches in with what they’ve found, it makes for an even better conversation.
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I went to the Cashman interview tonight at JBC in Pleasantville with Ed Randall. It was really great and I learned a lot about Cashman’s history from a young age to now. Cashman is truly a genuine nice guy.
Sam – great blog work -
Sam, you are awesome.
Your holding down the fort just fine!
Great job today Sam
Good job, Sam. But you don’t want to be the guy that follows Pete.
Yea, Sam you’ve done an excellent job. A refreshing fill while Pete is gone. He should think about giving you weekend detail or maybe taking more vacations.
I’m not bashing Pete by any means, as I love this blog and appreciate his work, but sometimes a variety is a bit refreshing.
If there was one thing I wish this blog did more, was post audio from various interviews. I’m not in this business, so I don’t know how easy it is to obtain audio from other interviews, but it would just be a cool addition.
m – Good job, Sam. But you don’t want to be the guy that follows Pete.
LOL. I dunno, I bet around the Lohud newsroom they are already referring to Pete as Wally Pipp.
Of course – they still believe in the sanctity of the newsroom, so they’ll just say Pete was (I mean is) a good teammate.
Ditto the above comments – Great job Sam.
JoeyA – well said.
Sam Great job. Pete and you would be great doing the blog together. You could both post. You guys are awesome
Joey A,
Pete does audio like no other. But I think there was an mlb mandate that content needed to be removed within 48 hours.
I may be wrong on that, but I think that Pete decided we can get the pregame and postgame stuff elsewhere.
And he’s said lots of times that “I’m a writer, not a photographer”.
But when the big story breaks or there’s press conferences, no one beats Pete with audio.
Okay. Let’s pretend that it’s okay to talk about players in the clubhouse.
But is it okay to talk about other players you never met?
http://bats.blogs.nytimes.com/.....-comments/
Get this man his own blog on here. Sheesh. Imagine that – he talks about baseball on a baseball blog.
Manny 3 years deal?
http://www.impactodeportivo.co.....ormat=html
Neil Best has been doing a terrific job – glad to hear that some of the media guys (like Costas) are being tough (but fair) on Torre.
Zach, I envy you; I wish I could have gone to the Cashman event. Care to summarize what the man said? Heavens, I’m desperate for ST to get here, lol.
I read the Rosenthal piece before – Joe basically ended a friendship, but I guess that’s not a big deal to him.
Every GM has his flaws, every manager has his flaws, but usually friends to not go out of their way to point them out……
m
February 3rd, 2009 at 11:53 pm
Okay. Let’s pretend that it’s okay to talk about players in the clubhouse.
But is it okay to talk about other players you never met?
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“The World According To Torre….errr….Garp”
I bet Cash was there to sell those $325 dollar seats .
m
I heard Beltran on the news tonight and he didn’t crack a smile when he said he wasn’t buying the book.
A CF who can hit and would prefer to “hide among the trees.” Sounds like Bernie.
GB,
I issued a challenge in the last thread to you. But I addressed it to GP. No idea who that is.
Anyway, I just finished the Rosenthal article. It’s nice that someone is writing on behalf of Cashman.
I know Torre is hurt that Cashman didn’t fight for him in the winter of ‘07. But how many times did he expect Cash to go to bat for him? The lose in the first round was getting old. It may not have been Torre’s fault, but you can’t fire the players.
And I’ll say it again, Cashman always brought in reinforcements for the troops to make that final push. It’s not like Torre was playing with an empty hand.
Here’s a more extensive take on Cash’s evening:
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02.....f=baseball
I don’t know why Cash thinks Melky will improve or why hunger is as good as talent (Gardner). I suppose it’s because he has no choice. Hal has cut the purse strings and the team will just have to make do with the CF situation as is, even though it sucks. My concern is whether Hal will open the checkbook again if Melky/Brett stink (as I expect). Of course, by then, the Yankees will have to make a trade that will cost them dearly.
I meant to add – Cash seems like a terrific guy, with a sense of humor that I can appreciate. His book WOULD be worth reading, but I don’t think we’ll ever see that…..and that’s a good thing.
m
February 4th, 2009 at 12:10 am
GB,
I issued a challenge in the last thread to you. But I addressed it to GP. No idea who that is.
Anyway, I just finished the Rosenthal article. It’s nice that someone is writing on behalf of Cashman.
I know Torre is hurt that Cashman didn’t fight for him in the winter of ‘07. But how many times did he expect Cash to go to bat for him? The lose in the first round was getting old. It may not have been Torre’s fault, but you can’t fire the players.
And I’ll say it again, Cashman always brought in reinforcements for the troops to make that final push. It’s not like Torre was playing with an empty hand.
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Ml, thanks. I read it, just don’t agree about the bullpen thing. Nobody complained about the use of the bullpen until 2002 when Nelson and Stanton left. Every time I see somebody talk about the abuse of Tanyon Sturtze, i want to puke. To begin with, he never pitched that many innings because he always got bombed. He was strictly mop up. Tampa had hin in the rotation for years and put him in the pen and pitched him a 100 innings. Quantrill was ridden like a horse by Toronto and the Dodgers for years. Torre used him about te same way because he wanted the work. Every body else was pitchers that had long histories of arm injuries, like Karsay and Gordon.
Proctor was a starter before going to the pen. He was in NYY for two half seasons and one full season. Look at his last year and a half. Great years for a midle relief pitcher and, his numbers in the last part of 2007 with the Dodgers were just as good.
People whined about that because they were generally the same ones that whined about Rodriguez not hitting in the clutch. They would never admit that having a lousy rotation had anything to do with how much a bullpen got used. Torre had a lot of faults, but, not having a reliable pitching staff that stayed healthy wasn’t on him. I hated the caste system he had, and people wont admit it, but, Jeter, Clemens and Posada ate it up. Love those guys as players, but, they had their own clique. Nobody got in unless Jeter said so, and, Posada wasn’t going to buck it.
It’s much like what Joe DiMaggio had. If you were a friend, you were in, but, talk out of turn or say something and you were dead as far as he was concerned. You never got back in.
I think that Manny story is a from a few months ago.