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The CF question

Posted by: Sam Borden - Posted in Misc on Feb 05, 2009 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

One of the things I mentioned in my first post this week was that I didn’t think Brett Gardner or Melky Cabrera would end up playing the most important games in CF for the Yankees this season. At this point, I just have trouble believing there won’t be someone more recognizable out there at some point.

Now, Andruw Jones would certainly qualify as more recognizable (though, then again, with his weight gain, maybe not) but despite being one of the game’s best players not that many years ago, it seems clear that Jones isn’t much of an upgrade anymore.

According to SI’s Jon Heyman, the Yankees did offer Jones a minor-league deal to come in and compete with Gardner/Cabrera, but agent Scott Boras turned it down. We’ll see if that rejection stands as spring training gets closer.

For me, Jones looks like a bit of a lost cause. The guy just completely fell off the shelf, looks out of shape and couldn’t get it together for a manager who – say what you want about Joe Torre’s authorship – usually gets veterans to play close to their peak. Makes you think Jones’ peak has fallen for good.

A minor league deal is harmless if Jones is willing to take it, but I wouldn’t hold out much hope for him being any kind of find.

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  1. dave February 5th, 2009 at 6:20 pm

    Cash supposedly compared gardner’s potential next year to a guy like juan pierre.
    Pierre’s line last year: 283 avg 327 obp 40 for 52 stolen bases in 375 at bats
    I can definitely see that comparison – if gardner gives us that kind of production next year, i think we will all be pleasantly suprised. That is tremendous production out of the ninth spot and even if posada doesn’t stay healthy all season, that is pretty decent stuff out of the eighth spot. I hope gardner comes around because if he does, those are the kinds of numbers he will put up.

  2. joeman February 5th, 2009 at 6:21 pm

    the Yankees got A Jones attention now go back and offer him a 1 year contract with incentives,a in shape(if) A Jones would be a huge plus,can play the position and hit at still a young age

  3. CraftyLefty February 5th, 2009 at 6:21 pm

    I’m rooting for Gardner; but is there any chance they bring in Jim Edmonds to compete for the spot?

  4. wood is good February 5th, 2009 at 6:23 pm

    Some days, I consider our current centerfield situation, and say to myself, “Dang, if we had a reliable veteran there, someone like Cameron, we’d be in perfect shape!”

    Then I look at our lineup again and realize I’m worried about nothing. I thank Cash Money for that — obtaining Tex completely changes the landscape.

    Compare our current lineup to the best of the rest, and no team comes close. (Yeah, I’m biased…. ;D )

  5. wood is good February 5th, 2009 at 6:24 pm

    And what I mean is — let Gardner and Melky duke it out!!

  6. joeman February 5th, 2009 at 6:25 pm

    look at AJ #’sup until last year,you just don’t lose it that quick…he’s worth the risk

  7. dave February 5th, 2009 at 6:27 pm

    Torre gets vets to play at their peak? What happened with guys like RJ, Brown, etc.? He just was not in the mood to get those guys to play to their peak?

    Jones is 31 – I have a tough time believing that the guy is done and Im sure boras and Andruw himself dont really believe it either. Boras accepting a minor league deal for Jones would be somewhat surprising like admitting that he is done. That has to be their absolute last resort but Jones cannot sit out for a season and expect things to get any better for him. Eventually, he is going to have to prove he is worth a major league roster spot. I think there is absolutely no harm in the yanks signing jones to a minor league deal and melky/gardner could certainly use the competition. In the end though, the chances that Jones takes a minor league deal and then, goes out and performs in ST is slim.

  8. Tom February 5th, 2009 at 6:28 pm

    Let Melky and Brett battle it out. If neither one can get the job done revisit the Cameron deal.

  9. Joe from Long Island February 5th, 2009 at 6:29 pm

    I think that sometimes people get confused. They think real life is just like a video game, and that they can make wild gambles in the hope that a miracle occurs and they can then seem like a genius, without any consequences for guessing wrong. It’s a bit similar, I think, to guys at the tables in Vegas, Atlantic City, or Foxwood, who are hoping for one more throw of the dice to make that big win.

    That’s what this Andruw Jones talk reminds me of, because there is nothing that he has actually done in the past couple of years to make a rational person think that he can become the player he was ten years ago.

    I remember reading something on Yahoo a couple of years ago, maybe by Jeff Passan, where the author made the case that Jones was going downhill then. That guy really called it.

  10. Uncle Ellsworth February 5th, 2009 at 6:29 pm

    Bat 21 Great book and Movie.

    Tom: Gone with the Wind??? my gut says it is not a war movie, Like many on the IMDB list

  11. Doreen February 5th, 2009 at 6:32 pm

    Tom -

    I was going to ask about Gone With the Wind, too! I figure it’s like Cold Mountain – a romance with the Civil War as a backdrop. Not really a war movie. In fact, I think there is very little actual fighting in Gone With the Wind. They show wounded soldiers and Atlanta burning, but noneof the actual fighting. And they do an awful lot of talking about the War.

    Cold Mountain at least had a very, very realistic Civil War battle scene.

  12. Tom February 5th, 2009 at 6:32 pm

    I thought so, too, Uncle Ellsworth. I saw it on that list, and thoght I’d ask.

  13. dave February 5th, 2009 at 6:32 pm

    Yea, our lineup is great right now but take one or two players out and replace them with the bench and it is a little difficult to just live with mediocrity in center. Im not saying matsui/posada getting injured is a given or that gardner cannot hack it in the majors for a season but the more competition the better. Putting a slumping gardner eighth and jose molina ninth in the batting order will really make yankee fans wonder why we didnt sign another CF to compete.

  14. Tom February 5th, 2009 at 6:34 pm

    Doreen- GWTW is like Casablanca, more of a love story.

  15. Doreen February 5th, 2009 at 6:34 pm

    Uncle Ellsworth –

    Is a movie like “Sophie’s Choice” on the IMDB list? Because that would be a movie that involves a war or the story takes place during a war but isn’t really about a war. Are the movies on that list like that? Stretching the genre, so to speak?

  16. Doreen February 5th, 2009 at 6:34 pm

    Tom -

    Yeah.

  17. GreenBeret7 February 5th, 2009 at 6:35 pm

    Uncle Ellsworth
    February 5th, 2009 at 6:29 pm
    Bat 21 Great book and Movie.

    Tom: Gone with the Wind??? my gut says it is not a war movie, Like many on the IMDB list

    ————————————————————

    The third part of the John Wayne Triolgy was his best and it, too was based on a true story….”The Horse Soldiers”. Great movie.

  18. Uncle Ellsworth February 5th, 2009 at 6:35 pm

    Doreen,

    Cold Mtn is Kind of like From Here to Eternity not sure where I’d put them.

  19. randy l February 5th, 2009 at 6:36 pm

    gb7
    didn’t you say before a while back you liked To Hell and Back with audie murphy?

  20. Tom February 5th, 2009 at 6:37 pm

    GAH, George King is still ranting about Joba in the ‘pen

  21. Tom February 5th, 2009 at 6:39 pm

    They’re Chick flicks disguised as war films

  22. joeman February 5th, 2009 at 6:39 pm

    not counting last year Jones average 28 hrs & 110 rbi’s the last four years…no need to go back ten years

  23. dave February 5th, 2009 at 6:39 pm

    Joe,

    No one thinks he is going to be the player he was 10 years ago but how about the player he was in 2006? He is only 31 years old – the rapid unraveling of his career was surprising and he is certainly still young enough to turn around this epic collapse. Either way, what is the harm of giving him a minor league deal? Little money, no roster spot taken up and it could create a little more fire under melky and gardners butts. There is really little reason why the yanks should not do this deal if they could.

  24. GreenBeret7 February 5th, 2009 at 6:39 pm

    Yeah, Randy…probably my favorite was “To Hell And Back”.

  25. GreenBeret7 February 5th, 2009 at 6:41 pm

    Uncle Ellsworth
    February 5th, 2009 at 6:21 pm
    GB& it’s a shame it it not out there for rental.

    Sounds a lot like McCain
    ——————————————————————————————
    Yeah….pretty close to the McCain story. I’m trying to download that movie on my computer and if I can, maybe I can get it to you over the internet. I need to find a program at allows converstion to an AVI format.

  26. Rebecca-Optimist Prime...Staying to Write the Story February 5th, 2009 at 6:42 pm

    My mother forced me to watch GWTW once when I had utterly no interest in it.

    I decided I didn’t like that movie for that sole reason.

  27. Uncle Ellsworth February 5th, 2009 at 6:45 pm

    GB that goes with Ft Apache and She wore a Yellow Ribbon Right? I remember they had to dig a slug from his leg. Good one.
    I like Searchers, Liberty Valence and Stagecoach as Westerns to start. He and Ford made many solid ones – even the Duke’s later stuff was good

    Doreen I agree sophie’s Choice not a war movie nor is Casablanca – a personal Fave
    crossing genres

  28. Doreen February 5th, 2009 at 6:47 pm

    tom -

    Hey! That’s not fair! :lol:

    But, I guess it’s the art of compromise – a little war, a little romance – everyone’s happy.

    And about George King and Joba — last week he talked about Joba should be in the pen setting up for Mariano and “that’s where he should stay.” Who the heck wants a career as a set-up guy?????!!!!! He didn’t even add, and take the closer’s job when Mo is done. He’s one of those guys who will never change his mind. Ever.

  29. Uncle Ellsworth February 5th, 2009 at 6:48 pm

    Rebecca give it another try. It really is a good one – but long and
    I think there is a sword fight in it.

    GB7 Thanks for tryin.

  30. Doreen February 5th, 2009 at 6:49 pm

    Rebecca -

    Movies like GWTW and Wizard of Oz, the more I watched them, the more I found to not like about them. Wizard of Oz is a big favorite of my youngest daughter, but she doesn’t get the nuances that began to annoy me. My sister put it this way – in the end, the only person you could trust was the Wicked Witch! (Which I believe ends up being the premise of the Broadway musical, Wicked.)

  31. Tom February 5th, 2009 at 6:50 pm

    You’re right, Doreen. Maybe I was too harsh. Casablanca is a great film and GWTW may be too (never saw the whole thing).

    But, can we agree that Pearl Harbor (the Ben Afleck one) was a chick flick at heart, plus it’s really awful.

  32. Mark February 5th, 2009 at 6:50 pm

    Bring in Jay Payton on an incentive-laden MiL deal and have Melky and Gardner to compete to platoon with him. He still hits lefties fairly respectably and he’ll likely asked to be released if he isn’t in the majors by May 1st. Nothing to lose, really.

  33. Doreen February 5th, 2009 at 6:51 pm

    Uncle Ellsworth -

    GWTW is a great movie, BUT the more I watched it, the more I found I didn’t like about it. Like Melanie Wilkes. She started to grate on my nerves. But not as much as Ashley Wilkes.

    And then there’s Scarlett. Sigh. I wouldn’t even begin to talk about all the problems I started having with her.

    Again Rhett, the “cad,” was the only honorable character in the movie.

  34. Ed - spring training can't start soon enough February 5th, 2009 at 6:51 pm

    Tom

    Agreed. Pearl Harbor was indeed a chick flick. not much action. ugh!

  35. randy l. February 5th, 2009 at 6:51 pm

    saw the The Beautiful Country the other night on netflix.
    that was an interesting after the vietnam war movie.

  36. pat February 5th, 2009 at 6:53 pm

    Not a war movie kind of gal so I’ve stayed out but like the Joba debate some things don’t die a natural death. Would Braveheart qualify?

  37. Tom February 5th, 2009 at 6:54 pm

    I think so, Pat.

  38. Bronx Jeers February 5th, 2009 at 6:55 pm

    Star Wars could be considered a war movie no? A war in space.

    Casablanca does fall into several genres but is most readily identified with film noir.

  39. Doreen February 5th, 2009 at 6:56 pm

    pat -

    I figured it you can’t beat ‘em, join ‘em. :D

  40. Brad Pitt's better-looking brother February 5th, 2009 at 6:56 pm

    When they say Andruw eats up the everything that comes his way
    I wish they were still talking about his defensive abilities.

  41. Doreen February 5th, 2009 at 6:57 pm

    (And start introducing movies that just barely fit the description!)

  42. Doreen February 5th, 2009 at 6:58 pm

    Tom –

    Even I never had any desire to see Pearl Harbor! :lol:

  43. GreenBeret7 February 5th, 2009 at 6:58 pm

    Doreen
    February 5th, 2009 at 6:51 pm
    Uncle Ellsworth –
    GWTW is a great movie, BUT the more I watched it, the more I found I didn’t like about it. Like Melanie Wilkes. She started to grate on my nerves. But not as much as Ashley Wilkes.

    And then there’s Scarlett. Sigh. I wouldn’t even begin to talk about all the problems I started having with her.

    Again Rhett, the “cad,” was the only honorable character in the movie.

    ————————————————————

    There were a couple of pretty good stories on a couple of the people in the movie. One of the Tarleton twins was George Reeves, future Mr. Universe and TV Superman, and Leslie Howard was killed during WWII when his plane was tracked down by German fighters and shot down. He was on a spy mission for MI5 and Winston Churchhill.

  44. Doreen February 5th, 2009 at 7:01 pm

    I knew about George Reeves, but not Leslie Howard. Wow.

  45. Uncle Ellsworth February 5th, 2009 at 7:04 pm

    Pearl Harbor:
    Action scenes were good…..the love story should have been bombed

    Doreen interesting take.
    I too found many of the characters in GWTW annoying.
    I;m going to watch Wizard of Oz again with that in mind.

  46. Doreen February 5th, 2009 at 7:05 pm

    Uncle Ellsworth -

    Glinda the Good Witch is the worst of all!

  47. saucY February 5th, 2009 at 7:06 pm

    is that just in Oz or the whole movie?

  48. GreenBeret7 February 5th, 2009 at 7:07 pm

    Doreen, I mentioned a great book about an amazing guy, Moe Berg. “The Catcher Was A Spy”, is a great read. It would make a sensational movie. Berg was an old time major league catcher turned spy during WWII. He worked for WIld Bill Donavon, who started the OSS (pre-cursor to the CIA) and was recruited by Michael Burke….the same Michael Burke that was president of Ringling Brothers, Barnum And Bailey Circus and then president of the CBS run Yankees.

  49. Rebecca-Optimist Prime...Staying to Write the Story February 5th, 2009 at 7:08 pm

    Braveheart is great, although I don’t like Mel Gibson.

    300 is beyond amazing.

  50. GreenBeret7 February 5th, 2009 at 7:08 pm

    Doreen
    February 5th, 2009 at 7:05 pm
    Uncle Ellsworth –
    Glinda the Good Witch is the worst of all!

    ————————————————————

    Glenda had a thing for midgets.

  51. S.o.S. February 5th, 2009 at 7:09 pm

    Damn you guys still on the war movie subject? It was a question i asked gb last night and i guess its still making its rounds. I never thought there was that many to chose from. See GB. If you would have just agreed with me that Saving Private Ryan was the best one ever it wouldnt have kept going this long. You had to go with the duke.

    And Legends of the Fall can be put in with the cold mountain etc. chick flicks. Not a war movie if its more love than war.

  52. Doreen February 5th, 2009 at 7:10 pm

    saucy -

    The way my sister sees it, she gets creeped out by humanoid creatures (lion, tin man and scarecrow). She also sees something sinister in their affection for Dorothy, but I don’t. But, to answer your question, even back in Kansas, Aunt Em and Uncle Henry totally let Dorothy down.

  53. Doreen February 5th, 2009 at 7:11 pm

    GB7 -

    Sounds like an interesting book. Catchy title, too.

  54. saucY February 5th, 2009 at 7:11 pm

    i’m trying to think of the name of this movie. a comedy and more of a wartime movie than actual war movie, made in the late 80′s and set in England, i think.

    i remember so many scenes, but can’t think of the name of the movie for the life of me (if i ever knew it). several scenes i remember include cricket, using dynamite to kill all of the fish, hitting a bullet in a vice with a hammer, finding a bunch of jam on the shore, the older sister drawing lines on the back of her legs to look like stockings…

    can anyone help me out?

  55. Tommy February 5th, 2009 at 7:11 pm

    I’m fine staring the season with Melky and Gardner battling it out. I expect Gardner to be a nice surprise this year.

  56. Tom February 5th, 2009 at 7:12 pm

    saucy, who’s in it?

  57. GreenBeret7 February 5th, 2009 at 7:13 pm

    S.o.S.
    February 5th, 2009 at 7:09 pm
    Damn you guys still on the war movie subject? It was a question i asked gb last night and i guess its still making its rounds. I never thought there was that many to chose from. See GB. If you would have just agreed with me that Saving Private Ryan was the best one ever it wouldnt have kept going this long. You had to go with the duke.

    And Legends of the Fall can be put in with the cold mountain etc. chick flicks. Not a war movie if its more love than war.

    ————————————————————

    Hey…somebody sucked me right back in. It’s your fault, so don’t complain. Best cartoons could be next.

  58. saucY February 5th, 2009 at 7:14 pm

    tom, i don’t remember anyone famous. if i did i’d just look it up on imdb :idea: :)

  59. Uncle Ellsworth February 5th, 2009 at 7:14 pm

    Wait who gets creeped out? Dorothy, Glida or your sister?

  60. S.o.S. February 5th, 2009 at 7:14 pm

    Braveheart was IMO the best movie ever. I always think that the next time i see it he wont fall for the trap that was set.

    Rebecca,
    I liked 300 accept for the ending. If you are surounded by arrows pointed at you and you know theres no chance to survive. Wouldnt you rush the opposition and take some down with you? Who knows there might be some friendly fire. Also, I guess the leader of 300 in the true story dies right of the bat and doesnt make it to that scene. But it wouldnt have made a good movie without him so ill give that a pass.

  61. Uncle Ellsworth February 5th, 2009 at 7:14 pm

    Hope and Glory

  62. pat February 5th, 2009 at 7:15 pm

    Doreen

    Apply the Wizard references to the Yankees. Could the one everyone portrays to be the Wicked Witch be the one who can be trusted the most? Art imitates life. :smile:

  63. GreenBeret7 February 5th, 2009 at 7:15 pm

    It is, Doreen. It bogs down in a few spots, but, overall…a great story about a very strange, but, harmless guy.

  64. Doreen February 5th, 2009 at 7:15 pm

    Cartoons?

    Saturday morning cartoons growing up. All of them. Didn’t matter. We were up, the folks were not, cereal in front of th t.v. in pajamas. Just pure childhood bliss.

  65. Shmandohoa February 5th, 2009 at 7:16 pm

    Hank talks!

    http://zellspinstripeblog.com/.....%e2%80%9d/

  66. Doreen February 5th, 2009 at 7:16 pm

    Uncle Ellsworth -

    My sister.

  67. Tom February 5th, 2009 at 7:16 pm

    The Simpsons is the greatest cartoon ever.

  68. saucY February 5th, 2009 at 7:17 pm

    thanks Uncle Ellsworth! i don’t think i ever did know the name of it…

  69. Uncle Ellsworth February 5th, 2009 at 7:18 pm

    Saucy
    Hope and Glory is the Movie you want – Excellent movie

    Ok Thanks Doreen

  70. Doreen February 5th, 2009 at 7:18 pm

    pat -

    I don’t know who the Wicked Witch would be on the Yankees. Cash? Hank? Girardi? ARod?

  71. Tarheelyank February 5th, 2009 at 7:20 pm

    The Simpsons is a cartoon? Doh!!

  72. S.o.S. February 5th, 2009 at 7:21 pm

    “Best cartoons could be next.”

    We’ve done that one already.

    How about funniest movie ever?

  73. Doreen February 5th, 2009 at 7:22 pm

    Tom -

    The Simpsons isn’t a cartoon! It’s an animated series. :) j/k But I would put the Simpsons in a class by itself.

    Bugs Bunny is a cartoon. Mr. Magoo. Dudley Dooright. Mighty Mouse. Rocky and Bullwinkle. The Jetsons. The Flintstones. The Beatles Cartoon. Yogi Bear. Underdog.

  74. S.A.-Brian "The Ninja" Cashman: Showing free agents lots of love February 5th, 2009 at 7:24 pm

    So no dinner update from Sam?

    “I don’t know who the Wicked Witch would be on the Yankees”

    Randy Levine? :)

  75. S.o.S. February 5th, 2009 at 7:25 pm

    “Bugs Bunny is a cartoon. Mr. Magoo. Dudley Dooright. Mighty Mouse. Rocky and Bullwinkle. The Jetsons. The Flintstones. The Beatles Cartoon. Yogi Bear. Underdog.”

    Wow Doreen. If you want to know what era people are from you talk cartoons.
    My list would be
    Transformers
    he man
    thundercats
    voltron
    gi joe

  76. PAT M. February 5th, 2009 at 7:25 pm

    If we can get lock down defense and hit around .275 I’d be fine with that.Throw in 30 bags and a .370 obp…Paul Blair made a career of doing so..Man he was great defensive CF ….

  77. saucY February 5th, 2009 at 7:27 pm

    hey, if the simpsons were an ‘animated series’ (best tv show ever,imo), so were the jetson and flintstones…

  78. Okay February 5th, 2009 at 7:29 pm

    To get creative, move Jeter to center, have A-Rod move back to short and Swisher over to 3rd.

    1. LF Damon
    2. CF Jeter
    3. 1B Teix
    4. SS A-Rod
    5. C Posada
    6. DH Matsui
    7. RF Nady
    8. 3B Swisher
    9. 2B Cano

  79. GreenBeret7 February 5th, 2009 at 7:31 pm

    Three categories.

    1. Adult cartoon – “Fritz The Cat” and “The Nine Lives Of Fritz The Cat”.

    2. TV cartoon made for adults – “The Adventures Of Rocky And Bullwinkle”.

    3. Foghorn Leghorn –

    Bugs Bunny – I have a problem with kids being exposed to rabitts dressed up as women and kissing men. To each his own, but, not in front of kids. It’s no wonder kids don’t know who or what they are, nowadays.

  80. saucY February 5th, 2009 at 7:33 pm

    okay, Nady has actually played 3B

    not that i’m recommending that…

  81. Doreen February 5th, 2009 at 7:35 pm

    Saucy -

    You are right. I added that the Simpsons was in a class by itself AFTER I typed the Flintstones and the Jetsons. :)

    SOS -

    Oops! :oops:

    GB7 -

    Bugs Bunny was ahead of his time. Foghorn Leghorn was a grouchy old man-type character. I say, I say…
    I would love to see Rocky and Bullwinkle now. Very cold war, though at the time I just loved the Russian accents and the name Natasha.

    Can’t comment on the adult cartoons. I was underage when they came out.

  82. saucY February 5th, 2009 at 7:37 pm

    i had an older sister who controlled the channels more than me, so i never really had much opportunity to get into the he mans and gi joe type cartoons.

    the smurfs were good. then the older classics like woody woodpecker, older tom n jerry, looney tunes, heckyl and jeckyl (but i only think i remember them when i was really young, too violent maybe?)

    non-cartoon kid shows: magic garden, wonderama, the great space coaster, electic company…

  83. Tom February 5th, 2009 at 7:37 pm

    You Army men and your smut….

  84. Ninja Burglar February 5th, 2009 at 7:38 pm

    I still think we will see Damon start most games in CF with Nady in RF and Swisher in LF, with a defensive substitution happening at some point that puts Damon in left and Melky or Gardner coming in.

    There also could be a situation where Gardner starts the season in AAA and we carry a 3rd catcher if Jorge isn’t ready right away. I believe management would move a position player down and not a pitcher in that situation, as pitchers aren’t 100% conditioned yet and we’ll need all the bullpen arms.

    This is all based on roster construction, not favoring one player over another. Melky is out of options, Gardner is not, so Gardner is the one that can move back and forth with Melky being the late defensive sub.

  85. saucY February 5th, 2009 at 7:38 pm

    “I just loved the Russian accents and the name Natasha.”

    try being a programmer ;)

  86. S.o.S. February 5th, 2009 at 7:40 pm

    Add Family Guy to the adult cartoon list. I allow my kids to watch some R movies. But I cant get myself to allow them to watch Family Guy. Go figure.

    Okay,
    Im not sure if you were joking about the changes. Arod is too big to play short and he said it himself. He is confortable where hes at. Didnt know Swisher ever played third. Jeter aint moving positions for till at least when his contract is up. Why would you change 3 peoples positions to fill one? Cant we just have a Broscious like center fielder? We have enough hitting to win it all. Give me a .260 15 hr and 60 ribis with a cannon arm and good solid defense and im good.

  87. Tom February 5th, 2009 at 7:40 pm

    Space ghost coast to coast, Sealab 2021 and Futurama are all great “Adult” cartoons

  88. Ariel February 5th, 2009 at 7:40 pm

    I look for Melky to rebound from last year’s disaster. There were certain negative influences and distractions that have been eliminated, so now it is up to the Melkman to deliver.

  89. GreenBeret7 February 5th, 2009 at 7:41 pm

    Tom
    February 5th, 2009 at 7:37 pm
    You Army men and your smut….

    ————————————————————

    I can tell that you loved the two Fritz movies, too.

  90. Doreen February 5th, 2009 at 7:42 pm

    Speed racer was a good afternoon cartoon. But I tended to watch Dark Shadows.

  91. pat February 5th, 2009 at 7:42 pm

    Didn’t we play cartoons before?

    Top Cat, Wacky Races, Hong Kong Phooey in addition to the ones named already. Also loved the Sid and Marty Kroft Shows on Saturday am like HR Puff N Stuff, but that was more acid trip than cartoon. Being under 10 I just didn’t know it at the time.

  92. Ed - spring training can't start soon enough February 5th, 2009 at 7:43 pm

    I seriously thought Space Ghost was whack. its like a ripoff of Superman but with a mask.

  93. Doreen February 5th, 2009 at 7:43 pm

    pat -

    Yes – HR Puff N Stuff – psychedelic and I didn’t know what psychedelic was. :)

  94. S.o.S. February 5th, 2009 at 7:45 pm

    “i had an older sister who controlled the channels more than me, so i never really had much opportunity to get into the he mans and gi joe type cartoons.”

    Please tell me your sister was nice enough not to not force you to watch Strawberry Shortcake and Care Bears? You did miss out on some good cartoons.

  95. Doreen February 5th, 2009 at 7:45 pm

    For me, I don’t think it was the particular cartoons so much as it was the Saturday morning lounging around.

  96. Tom February 5th, 2009 at 7:45 pm

    Very true, Ed. However, Space Ghost coast to coast is some of the funniest stuff I’ve ever seen.

  97. Ed - spring training can't start soon enough February 5th, 2009 at 7:46 pm

    Tom: what about Harvery Birdman?

  98. Doreen February 5th, 2009 at 7:46 pm

    And Cap’n Crunch Cereal and Quisp.

  99. Chris February 5th, 2009 at 7:46 pm

    This is who I want to compete with Gardner and Melky: Chris Dickerson, CF, Reds

    http://www.baseballamerica.com.....l_id=56155

    Could possibly acquire him in a deal for Swisher or Nady. There would be other parts of the trade I presume.

  100. saucY February 5th, 2009 at 7:47 pm

    sos, lol. we found stuff we both liked. never had to deal with either of those…

  101. Ed - spring training can't start soon enough February 5th, 2009 at 7:48 pm

    I know what you guys are listing cartoons from the 60s/70s but what about Thunder Cats? I think it came out during the 80s right?

  102. saucY February 5th, 2009 at 7:48 pm

    how can i forget bananaman and dangermouse!

  103. Tom February 5th, 2009 at 7:49 pm

    Another good one, ED.

  104. Buddy Biancalana February 5th, 2009 at 7:49 pm

    Doreen-

    Love Sid & Marty Krofft. HR Puffnstuff, Sigmund & the Seamonsters, Bugaloos & Land of the Lost.

  105. Doreen February 5th, 2009 at 7:50 pm

    Buddy Biancalana -

    Very creative guys.

  106. Buddy Biancalana February 5th, 2009 at 7:52 pm

    Isn’t Will Ferell in a new version of a Land of the Lost movie?

  107. joeman February 5th, 2009 at 7:52 pm

    Gardner can’t hit and Melky stinks…..Damon in CF would be a disaster

  108. S.o.S. February 5th, 2009 at 7:52 pm

    “My list would be
    Transformers
    he man
    thundercats
    voltron
    gi joe”

    Ed,
    That was my list. We’re on the same page bro. I have all the thundercats shows on dvd. Voltrons(cats version) as well.

  109. pat February 5th, 2009 at 7:53 pm

    “Love Sid & Marty Krofft. HR Puffnstuff, Sigmund & the Seamonsters, Bugaloos & Land of the Lost.”

    Don’t forget the Banana Splits!

  110. S.o.S. February 5th, 2009 at 7:53 pm

    Yes Buddy. It looks like a comedy though. I remember it being a serious show. I dont get why they wouldnt follow suit on a classic like that.

  111. Buddy Biancalana February 5th, 2009 at 7:55 pm

    pay

    How about Electra Woman & Dyna girl?

  112. Buddy Biancalana February 5th, 2009 at 7:55 pm

    I meant pat, sorry!

  113. Ed - spring training can't start soon enough February 5th, 2009 at 7:55 pm

    SOS,

    :shock: I’m really soooo jealous right now. Wanna send me copies of it? LOL. seriously I am. I wish I could rewatch those awesome cartoons from the past.

  114. S.o.S. February 5th, 2009 at 8:01 pm

    Ed,
    I found them on e-bay. Wasnt that expensive. The reason i bought them was because my kids were watching some of these new cartoons. I told my older one that we had better ones in the 80′s and so I had to prove it to him. Long story short, he liked both Voltron and Thundercats but went back to watching his updated stuff. Actually the new ones that are pretty good are Spongebob,Star Wars and X-men. A new batman is coming out,might take a look at that.

  115. jennifer February 5th, 2009 at 8:01 pm

    Where is the dinner thread?

  116. S.o.S. February 5th, 2009 at 8:03 pm

    Also had to buy The Little Rascals for them as well. They absolutely loved them.

  117. Ed - spring training can't start soon enough February 5th, 2009 at 8:03 pm

    SOS,

    Star Wars was decent, X-Men was alright but the late 90s verison was better. Which Batman are you talking about? I know there’s a new one that airing right now, it is called “The Batman”.

  118. John in Ohio February 5th, 2009 at 8:04 pm

    Torre is on MLBTV with Bob Costas

  119. Ninja Burglar February 5th, 2009 at 8:04 pm

    It’s also reasonable to think that Damon will have less balls to chase down in center for 6 innings a game with 3/5 of the starting rotation averaging about 1 strikeout per inning, thus minimizing his defensive liability for that portion of the game.

  120. Buddy Biancalana February 5th, 2009 at 8:09 pm

    What’s up with all of the makeup on Torre? It goes up all the way up to his hairline.

  121. S.o.S. February 5th, 2009 at 8:10 pm

    Ed,
    I agree. The old X-men in the 90′s were good. I will hold judgement of which is better till I watch more of the new one. The new one is basically going with what was in the movies. What i dont get is why does Wolverine still wear his blue and yellow if he wore all black in the movies? Inconsistant with that.

    Im not sure if its called the batman. Its suppose to be an updated one taking some of the stuff from new batman movies. I might be late on it and its probaly already playing for all i know.

  122. Joe from Long Island February 5th, 2009 at 8:10 pm

    Torre has some discrepancies. He says he was “relieved” to no longer be managing the Yankees. Yet, it seemed that if he got the right deal, he would have stayed on.

    Sounds like some damage control. Costas is a good interviewer.

  123. Bronx Jeers February 5th, 2009 at 8:11 pm

    Costas is doing a good job with this interview. He’s certainly being thorough with the negative criticism.

  124. five iron from fenway February 5th, 2009 at 8:15 pm

    Randy:
    Can you hear me now???
    Sorry I couldnt join the Cashman on vacation conversation earlier but just wanted to confirm for everyone that if Brian Cashman uses a Verizon cell phone he would have been able to hold a conversation while he spent two days skiing.
    He was in touch enough for Boras to turn him down about A Jones. No one works 24/7. I think we have to give Cashman a bit of a break after the offseason he put together.
    If they can get A Jones for nothing why not. However, a major leage deal is difficult because of 40 man roster issues.

  125. Ed - spring training can't start soon enough February 5th, 2009 at 8:16 pm

    SOS,

    was this what you saw?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCjJ2i_qSo8

  126. Betsy February 5th, 2009 at 8:22 pm

    Anyone remember The Magic Garden? LOL I loved that show when I was a kid…..the magic box, the magic box!

    I LOVED the Electric Company, especially the Spiderman segments. I liked it better than Sesame Street, although I adored Cookie Monster.

    Smurfs rocked, but IMO, there was nothing greater than watching the Superfriends on Saturday morning. I am probably the only one in the world who liked the Wonder Twins – but now, I see how dorky they really were, lol. The Legion of Doom, however, is still ultra-cool.

    I never loved Bugs Bunny the character; I much preferred Daffy Duck. The best, however, was the Tazmanian Devil. I got such a kick out of him.

    I love Scooby Doo – my favorite character is Velma because I always like smart characters (like the Professor on Gilligan’s Island or Dorothy on the Golden Girls, lol). Scrappy Doo, however……….just FAIL.

  127. S.o.S. February 5th, 2009 at 8:25 pm

    Ed,
    Im not sure. I saw the previews once and thought it had him looking more updated. It was suppose to come on friday nights. I will have to ask my kids.

  128. Uncle Ellsworth February 5th, 2009 at 8:25 pm

    The New Zoo Review ……… Comin’ right at you

    The Best was Schoolhouse Rock

  129. Gman February 5th, 2009 at 8:27 pm

    I’m sure Brett Gardner’s a great guy, but he better steal a whole lotta bases if he’s going to stick around.

  130. Betsy February 5th, 2009 at 8:29 pm

    One more – anyone watch the Muppet Babies? Barbara Billingsley played the “mother”, though you never saw her face. They invented Skeeter as the twin of Scooter, but my favorite was Animal…….as he was in the first two Muppet Movies.

    On to baseball:

    I read the Davidoff blog – it was well done, but I think he’s too harsh on Cash (not surprising, though, considering his other blogs this off-season). At the time of the trade, getting Jeff Weaver (let’s use this as an example) was a good move. The fact that it didn’t work out doesn’t mean it was poor decision making by Cash. I can’t even read any more about how genius the Sox are – Davidoff is smitten with them, as if they have never made mistakes. Wow, he gives Cash credit for bringing some semblance of order to a chaotic organization…….and that’s it.

    Andruw Jones – what a dope. If he accepted the offer and played well, he’d have a GREAT chance at the CF job (as Melky and Brett are hardly fixtures). Let’s see if he gets the offer he’s waiting for – he hasn’t gotten it thus far.

  131. S.o.S. February 5th, 2009 at 8:29 pm

    Betsy,
    There was a new saturday morning show that came out a few months ago with some super heroes in it that had 2 supermans. They both looked young. One with a cape and short hair and the other with no cape and longer hair(cool looking). It might be something youd enjoy. I wish i could remember the name, it comes on ktla channel five in so.cal.
    One other one thats good is Teen Titans. It has robin in it.

  132. GreenBeret7 February 5th, 2009 at 8:29 pm

    Uncle Ellsworth
    February 5th, 2009 at 8:25 pm

    The Best was Schoolhouse Rock

    ————————————————————

    It was the voice of Leon Redbone that made that show.

  133. YankeeRay February 5th, 2009 at 8:29 pm

    Underdog
    Mighty Mouse
    Johnny Quest

    And of course on Sundays you could only find Davey and Goliath right before Abbott and Costello

  134. Barry Lane February 5th, 2009 at 8:30 pm

    The only film dealing with precision daylight bombing, and told from the commanding officers point of view is Command Decision. There are virtually no battles scenes, but it is most certainly a war film, and one that celebrates our side. The principal characters are somewhat fictionalized, but they are based on Jimmy Doolittle, Curtis LeMay, and others.

    In some ways, it is a revelation.

    Barry Lane

  135. Nick in SF February 5th, 2009 at 8:32 pm

    Jeter didn’t have the baseball package?? Wow. Fallen idol. I’ll never look at him the same way again.

  136. S.o.S. February 5th, 2009 at 8:36 pm

    The most different war movie ever has to be Letter of Iwojima. Has there ever been an american war movie besides this one giving us the other sides prospective?

  137. Ed - spring training can't start soon enough February 5th, 2009 at 8:38 pm

    Nick: at least Jeter was being honest. lol

  138. S.o.S. February 5th, 2009 at 8:38 pm

    “Jeter didn’t have the baseball package??”

    What does he mean by the baseball package? What if hes just too busy dating hot chicks to watch baseball after games. I wouldnt have the package either if i was in his shoes.

  139. Typical LoHud Poster February 5th, 2009 at 8:39 pm

    I CAN’T BELIEVE CASHMAN DIDN’T SIGN SHEETS!!11! OMG HE IS TEH SUCK!!!!

  140. randy l. February 5th, 2009 at 8:40 pm

    “I mentioned a great book about an amazing guy, Moe Berg. “The Catcher Was A Spy”, is a great read. It would make a sensational movie.”

    gb7-

    i’ve got it on my bookshelf. i gave it to my father who was all over in the navy in ww2 a few years ago when he was down for the summer and in between yankee games he read the whole thing. i can’t remember him reading another book ever.

    we got talking about his experiences in the war and he told me about the sinking of a ship called the rhohna that was in the convoy off north africa he was in. i looked it up and it still constitutes the largest loss of U.S. troops at sea.

    that would be a good topic for a war movie because it was kept classified until 1967.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMT_Rohna

  141. Nick in SF February 5th, 2009 at 8:40 pm

    Maybe Jeter wasn’t being honest. Maybe he has the baseball package but he didn’t want Arod staying up late watching TV for a couple more hours when Jeter just wanted to go to sleep. Maybe he didn’t trust Arod with the remote and all those pay-per-view channels. Maybe he just wanted to mess with Arod’s head. Lots of possibilities.

  142. Bronx Jeers February 5th, 2009 at 8:42 pm

    Based on his infiltration within the Maxim 100, Jeter must be in possession of some sort of package.

  143. S.o.S. February 5th, 2009 at 8:46 pm

    lol. He has the upgraded Hefner package. Arod wishes he can upgrade to that someday.

  144. JorgeSays February 5th, 2009 at 8:46 pm

    I guess Jim Edmonds would be out of the question…?

    jorgesaysno

  145. GreenBeret7 February 5th, 2009 at 8:47 pm

    Barry Lane
    February 5th, 2009 at 8:30 pm
    The only film dealing with precision daylight bombing, and told from the commanding officers point of view is Command Decision. There are virtually no battles scenes, but it is most certainly a war film, and one that celebrates our side. The principal characters are somewhat fictionalized, but they are based on Jimmy Doolittle, Curtis LeMay, and others.

    In some ways, it is a revelation.

    Barry Lane

    ————————————————————

    There was another movie called “Strategic Air Command” with Jimmy Stewart that had Frank Lovejoy playing the LeMay part.

    “Bombs Away” LeMay was a great commander, but, absolutely ruthless. He defended the fire bombing of Germany and Japan until the day he died. LeMay was a brilliant stratigist, but, near the end of his career, he became a very dangerous man. The US would have nuked Cuba and the USSR had it been up to LeMay, and his recommendations almost led to that during the ’62 Cuban Missle Crisis.

  146. GreenBeret7 February 5th, 2009 at 8:50 pm

    S.o.S.
    February 5th, 2009 at 8:36 pm
    The most different war movie ever has to be Letter of Iwojima. Has there ever been an american war movie besides this one giving us the other sides prospective?

    ————————————————————

    Tora, Tora, Tora.

  147. Uncle Ellsworth February 5th, 2009 at 8:52 pm

    Tora Tora Tora
    The Japanese part was told by Japanese director and the American by an American Director

    Best “the War at Home” Movie
    The Great Santini! Hoorah!

  148. S.o.S. February 5th, 2009 at 8:54 pm

    GB,
    Was it any good?

  149. Betsy February 5th, 2009 at 8:55 pm

    S.O.S, I’m not much into modern stuff. I love the cartoons from the 70′s and 80′s because I have fond childhood memories of them, but also because they are somewhat cheesy. My favorite superhero show was the tv show, Batman. It’s very annoying that it’s not on DVD yet….Adam West was the best,lol.

  150. Joe from Long Island February 5th, 2009 at 8:56 pm

    Interesting comment by Verducci. He points out how, with presumed less use of PEDs by ballplayers, the WS was played by two teams which relied on a more “athletic” style of baseball, with baserunning and defense as more of a priority.

    If you watch Ken Burns’ series, that’s how baseball was played generations ago.

    I think this has factored into GMs being reluctant to sign guys like Dunn, Abreu, Anderson, etc. Older and less athletic guys will be seen as greater risk.

  151. BD February 5th, 2009 at 8:56 pm

    Edmonds’ name came up here over the weekend (?). I think he would be a great pickup, but others here seem to think he’s completely spent as both a hitter and a fielder.

  152. ANSKY February 5th, 2009 at 8:59 pm

    And there was Dr Strangelove too. Sort of a different approach angle on the ‘war movie’ I know.

    GB, were you in service around that time?

    I think I know someone who’s a descendant of a guy whose use of the phrase ‘Tora Tora Tora’ became famous and became the movie title. Or something like that. I don’t know the exact details.

  153. S.o.S. February 5th, 2009 at 9:01 pm

    Betsy,
    I couldnt stand the to be continued same bat time, same bat channel. I had to know how Batman was going to survive yesterday. Great shows.

  154. Doreen February 5th, 2009 at 9:03 pm

    Betsy -

    I used to love watching Batman! “Same bat time, same bat channel.” I loved the cliffhangers. I loved the villains, and I agree – Adam West was so cool.

    I also watched another campy show – The Monkees.

    Those two were “must-see t.v.” for me.

    The very, very best growing up, though, were the few occasions when we got to stay up to watch Johnny Carson – either because we had company or because we were visiting somewhere and it turned into a late night. It made me feel grown up at the time. It was still in New York back then.

    Does anyone remember a show with Kaye Ballard and Eve Arden called “The Mothers In Law?” I thought that was a fun show. But I don’t think they’ve ever re-run it so I wonder if they even have it on tape anywhere. I’d buy that DVD. I have the DVD collection of “That Girl.”

  155. GreenBeret7 February 5th, 2009 at 9:05 pm

    randy l.
    February 5th, 2009 at 8:40 pm
    “I mentioned a great book about an amazing guy, Moe Berg. “The Catcher Was A Spy”, is a great read. It would make a sensational movie.”

    gb7-

    i’ve got it on my bookshelf. i gave it to my father who was all over in the navy in ww2 a few years ago when he was down for the summer and in between yankee games he read the whole thing. i can’t remember him reading another book ever.

    we got talking about his experiences in the war and he told me about the sinking of a ship called the rhohna that was in the convoy off north africa he was in. i looked it up and it still constitutes the largest loss of U.S. troops at sea.

    that would be a good topic for a war movie because it was kept classified until 1967.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMT_Rohna

    ————————————————————

    Yeah, that would be a great movie, as would be an honest telling of The USS Indianpolis. I’ve read a book and some articles, and the complete neglegence of the Navy Department and Pacific Area Commander was criminal.

    The “Catcher Was A Spy” was outstanding. I learned so much from reading about him, from his photos being used for landmarks for the Doolittle Raid to him trying to see how close Germany was to developing the atomic bomb. It took guts for a Jew to live in Germany and the occupied countries then.

  156. Ed - spring training can't start soon enough February 5th, 2009 at 9:05 pm

    Betsy;

    definitely Adam West’s Batman was awesome, whenever there’s punch, the word “pow” pops up. It just amuses me when I was little. :D

  157. S.o.S. February 5th, 2009 at 9:06 pm

    Did you guys know that the guy who played Robin with adam west was one of the fastest readers? Supposidely he can read a whole book in minutes.

  158. randy l. February 5th, 2009 at 9:07 pm

    now here’s a strange one. Bill Pulsipher is going to be pitching for puerto rico on mlb network. 35 year old lefty. who knows? he may be back in the bigs sometimes.
    stranger things have happened.

  159. saucy February 5th, 2009 at 9:07 pm

    Betsy, totally with you on magic garden and electric company. :)

    Not sure if you saw my earlier post.

    Vaguely remember new zoo review. Apparently I made my mother wake me up early for that.

  160. Ed - spring training can't start soon enough February 5th, 2009 at 9:08 pm

    Doreen: Hey hey, we the Monkees and we monkeying around?

    …I think that how it goes. lol. Even though it came on way before my time, TV land was the best channel to learn all about tv greatest shows.

  161. GreenBeret7 February 5th, 2009 at 9:08 pm

    ANSKY
    February 5th, 2009 at 8:59 pm
    And there was Dr Strangelove too. Sort of a different approach angle on the ‘war movie’ I know.

    GB, were you in service around that time?

    I think I know someone who’s a descendant of a guy whose use of the phrase ‘Tora Tora Tora’ became famous and became the movie title. Or something like that. I don’t know the exact details.

    ————————————————————

    LMAO. Nah. I was too old for that war.

    smart azs.

  162. Doreen February 5th, 2009 at 9:09 pm

    Burt Ward played Robin. “holy hole in a donut, Batman!”

  163. GreenBeret7 February 5th, 2009 at 9:10 pm

    S.o.S.
    February 5th, 2009 at 9:06 pm
    Did you guys know that the guy who played Robin with adam west was one of the fastest readers? Supposidely he can read a whole book in minutes.

    ————————————————————

    Sounds like he must be related to Doreen.

  164. Ed - spring training can't start soon enough February 5th, 2009 at 9:11 pm

    SOS,

    I believe his name was Tim Burt, something like that.

  165. Doreen February 5th, 2009 at 9:11 pm

    Ed:

    Yeah, but: “Hey, he, we’re the Monkees, and people say we monkey around, but we’re too busy singin’ to put anybody down.”

    (There’s more, but I won’t bore you!)

  166. Doreen February 5th, 2009 at 9:12 pm

    GB7 -

    Ha Ha!

  167. Ed - spring training can't start soon enough February 5th, 2009 at 9:12 pm

    “Burt Ward played Robin.”

    see I was close. :lol:

  168. John in Ohio February 5th, 2009 at 9:12 pm

    Mr. Ed was funny.

  169. S.o.S. February 5th, 2009 at 9:12 pm

    Ed,
    I think Doreen got it right. You are mixing the name up with Tim Burton who i believe made a nightmare before christmas.

    Good night fellas.

  170. Ed - spring training can't start soon enough February 5th, 2009 at 9:14 pm

    Doreen: its fine, you won’t bore me at all. from time to time, I watch Bewitched. :lol: =X

  171. Joe from Long Island February 5th, 2009 at 9:14 pm

    I remember when Pulsipher, Isringhausen and Wilson were Generation K, and going to set up the Mets for years.

    Gosh, I hate to say it, but I’m getting old.

  172. YankeeRay February 5th, 2009 at 9:15 pm

    Doreen, I loved the mothers in law show.
    Was a big batman fan also. I was the first one on my block to get a colored tv and everyone in the neighborhood used to pile into my living room on friday nights to watch batman.
    Monkees,Partrige Family,Brady Bunch, Dick Van Dyke followed by Mary Tyler Moore show and of course That Girl and Flying Nun.

  173. GreenBeret7 February 5th, 2009 at 9:15 pm

    randy l.
    February 5th, 2009 at 9:07 pm
    now here’s a strange one. Bill Pulsipher is going to be pitching for puerto rico on mlb network. 35 year old lefty. who knows? he may be back in the bigs sometimes.
    stranger things have happened.

    ————————————————————

    Haven’t seen him in years. Part of the Mets “Generation Trey” in the mid 90′s with Paul Wilson and Jason Isringhausen.

  174. Buddy Biancalana February 5th, 2009 at 9:17 pm

    This will sound cheesy, but I loved the Carol Burnett show & Mama’s Family.

  175. YankeeRay February 5th, 2009 at 9:18 pm

    Bewitched was great Ed. Samantha was hot until she turned into Lizzie Borden lol.
    Petticoat Junction, Beverly Hillbillies and Green Acres also.

    They certainly don’t make em like they used to.

  176. DT February 5th, 2009 at 9:19 pm

    Nick in SF
    February 5th, 2009 at 8:32 pm
    Jeter didn’t have the baseball package?? Wow. Fallen idol. I’ll never look at him the same way again.

    LOL… poor Arod.
    The book left out the best part of the story.

    Because Jeet didn’t have the baseball package, Alex casually flipped through the channels. He stopped on VH-1 and was mesmerized.

    Yes, they were showing the Madonna biography. Alex was glued to the set. Derek had to get him a bib.

    And as Paul Harvey would say… now you know the rest of the story. :-)

  177. GreenBeret7 February 5th, 2009 at 9:21 pm

    I’ll take “Petticoat Junction”, “Beverly Hillbillies” and “Green Acres”.

    Speaking of “Green Acres”, there is a couple of singer/comedians named Pinkard And Bowden that do an impression of Jimi Henrix doing his version of “Green Acres”. Great stuff.

  178. Doreen February 5th, 2009 at 9:22 pm

    YankeeRay -

    A lot of those shows were goofy and unsophisticated, but they were fun and mostly you could sit with your family and enjoy them together. I watched all the shows you named. I still love the Dick Van Dyke show and wish Nickolodeon would start airing it again.

    Most of the old B&W shows, I saw those in syndication. Leave it to Beaver, Donna Reed, Father Knows Best.

    Our family watched My Three Sons. That was an interesting show. Virtually no women for years, and then wham! Robbie and Dad both get married.

  179. GreenBeret7 February 5th, 2009 at 9:24 pm

    Buddy Biancalana
    February 5th, 2009 at 9:17 pm
    This will sound cheesy, but I loved the Carol Burnett show & Mama’s Family.

    ————————————————————

    Nobody was funnier than Tim Conway and Harvey Korman.

    McHale’s Navy was a great show, also.

  180. Doreen February 5th, 2009 at 9:25 pm

    I preferred Petticoat Junction to Green Acres. And though I watched Beverly Hillbillies, I didn’t really like it much.

    Boy, I didn’t realize I was such a tv junkie!

  181. YankeeRay February 5th, 2009 at 9:25 pm

    Smothers brothers, laugh In and I even liked the Flip Wilson show.

  182. YankeeRay February 5th, 2009 at 9:26 pm

    Hogans Heros and Get Smart

  183. RalphieD (http://www.centsports.com/?opcode=317843) February 5th, 2009 at 9:26 pm

    spring training is so close i can taste it…and it tastes good…maybe it is just all these threads about food…i love it!!!

  184. Buddy Biancalana February 5th, 2009 at 9:26 pm

    GB7-

    Were you an F Troop fan?

  185. GreenBeret7 February 5th, 2009 at 9:28 pm

    Doreen
    February 5th, 2009 at 9:25 pm
    I preferred Petticoat Junction to Green Acres. And though I watched Beverly Hillbillies, I didn’t really like it much.

    Boy, I didn’t realize I was such a tv junkie!

    ————————————————————

    Beverly Hillbillies – Grannie telling the hippies about smoking crawdads.

  186. GreenBeret7 February 5th, 2009 at 9:29 pm

    Buddy Biancalana
    February 5th, 2009 at 9:26 pm
    GB7-

    Were you an F Troop fan?

    ————————————————————

    Yes…I was in love with Wrangler Jane.

  187. YankeeRay February 5th, 2009 at 9:29 pm

    Buddy Biancalana
    February 5th, 2009 at 9:26 pm
    GB7-

    Were you an F Troop fan?

    ——–

    The scurge of the west

  188. DT February 5th, 2009 at 9:29 pm

    Trisha –

    I took your advice. We’ll see what happens with the “anniversary letter”.

    Lisa Swan gave it some nice pub.
    http://subwaysquawkers.blogspo.....uined.html

    I sent it out a few sardonic sports writers and SI’s Rick Reilly responded tonight. He thought it was “freakin hilarious” and wanted to know if I could get it printed somewhere.

    He has permission to run with it if he wants. We’ll see what happens. ;-)

  189. YankeeRay February 5th, 2009 at 9:31 pm

    Adam 12 and Dragnet

    boy there were some great shows back then, and still had time to watch the yankees with Horace Clarke

  190. saucy February 5th, 2009 at 9:33 pm

    Betsy, i’m with you on Magic Garden and Electric Company. Not sure if you saw my post up there about them. :)

  191. Doreen February 5th, 2009 at 9:33 pm

    No to Hogan’s Heros. Never, ever liked it. I have a good sense of humor, but I really didn’t like the premise. F-Troop and Gomer Pyle weren’t high on my list either.

    Smoking crawdads! (Near the cee-ment pond?)

    Laugh In – I liked it, but my parents loved it. I guess that would be very, very dated if they re-ran it now.

  192. Doreen February 5th, 2009 at 9:35 pm

    DT -

    That’s great for you! I hope it gets a lot of “airtime.”

  193. YankeeRay February 5th, 2009 at 9:36 pm

    Doreen
    February 5th, 2009 at 9:33 pm
    No to Hogan’s Heros. Never, ever liked it. I have a good sense of humor, but I really didn’t like the premise

    —–

    That was a take off of Great Escapae and

  194. Doreen February 5th, 2009 at 9:40 pm

    Here Come the Brides and Love American Style.

  195. YankeeRay February 5th, 2009 at 9:42 pm

    YankeeRay
    February 5th, 2009 at 9:36 pm
    Doreen
    February 5th, 2009 at 9:33 pm
    No to Hogan’s Heros. Never, ever liked it. I have a good sense of humor, but I really didn’t like the premise

    ——-

    Not sure what happened on last post

    Hogans was based on my fav movie Great escape and stalag 17. Klink and Schultz were good.

    Reggie just took Bob Welch deep on yankee classics

  196. S.A.-Brian "The Ninja" Cashman: Showing free agents lots of love February 5th, 2009 at 9:42 pm

    Good stuff DT! :D

  197. GreenBeret7 February 5th, 2009 at 9:42 pm

    Doreen
    February 5th, 2009 at 9:33 pm
    No to Hogan’s Heros. Never, ever liked it. I have a good sense of humor, but I really didn’t like the premise. F-Troop and Gomer Pyle weren’t high on my list either.

    Smoking crawdads! (Near the cee-ment pond?)

    Laugh In – I liked it, but my parents loved it. I guess that would be very, very dated if they re-ran it now.

    ————————————————————

    hah. They were down at Griffith Park.

    they also had a two parker with Don Drysdale, Wes Parker and Leo Durocher. Jethroe was trying out for the Dodgers and was throwing his “Possum Ball”.

  198. GreenBeret7 February 5th, 2009 at 9:44 pm

    YankeeRay
    February 5th, 2009 at 9:36 pm
    Doreen
    February 5th, 2009 at 9:33 pm
    No to Hogan’s Heros. Never, ever liked it. I have a good sense of humor, but I really didn’t like the premise
    ——-

    That was a take off of Great Escapae and

    ————————————————————

    Actually, it was based on “Stalag 17″.

  199. GreenBeret7 February 5th, 2009 at 9:46 pm

    For those that don’t remember the show or the guy, some of the best of the early ’60s TV comedy was “The Steve Allen Show”.

  200. YankeeRay February 5th, 2009 at 9:48 pm

    GreenBeret7
    February 5th, 2009 at 9:46 pm
    For those that don’t remember the show or the guy, some of the best of the early ‘60s TV comedy was “The Steve Allen Show”.

    ——

    Milton Berle and Red Skelton as well. Of course once Ralph left the honeymooners the Jackie Gleason show was good tv.

  201. Kevin O. February 5th, 2009 at 9:49 pm

    Andruw Jones is a five time all-star, a 10 time gold glove winner, and has 371 career home runs. He will be 32 in April. Take a flier maybe? If any team gives him a guaranteed spot, it’s their risk. But clearly this guy is at least worth a look if it would come cheap. Melky and Gardner, while young do not have anything close to Jones track record…

  202. randy l. February 5th, 2009 at 9:50 pm

    doreen-
    i’m reading about cashman insisting to torre how mientkiewicz/phelps platoon was going to be better than having benie on the bench which is what torre fought for.

    torre said basically that it pissed him off and he would never forget how cashman was going to go by his numbers instead of torre’s opinion.

    i know with me personally when i look back , that’s when cashman lost me for good. on the blogs, i remember all these 20 something stat heads saying the same crap cashman was. it is very nice seeing many of these people disappear from sight after supporting cashman on the bernie/mienkiewicz/phelps fiasco and then the hughes/kennedy fiasco.

    eyechart and phelps hit .200 off the bench. phelps was waived after 36 games.

    just from this,i can see why cashman doesn’t like this book.and why his supporters don’t.

  203. Bob(The Original) February 5th, 2009 at 9:50 pm

    Hmmm, nobody seems to be clamoring for Ben Sheets anymore.

    Once again I guess Cashman knows what he’s doing.

  204. Bob(The Original) February 5th, 2009 at 9:53 pm

    Randy, I honestly think that if Cashman knew that Torre would in fact only use Bernie as a pinch hitter with an occasional start to spell someone, he would have been much more open to bringing him back.

    However, he knows Joe. If Bernie were on the team, he would have played him way more than he should have. The reality was that Bernie just didn’t have it anymore except fora little bit from the right side.

  205. Tarheelyank February 5th, 2009 at 9:53 pm

    I guess I watched a lot of TV because I liked almost all those old shows. Get Smart and any Three Stooges were must see.

    GB thanks for book recommendation. my Library has it so I will check it out tomorrow.

  206. ray (sox fan) February 5th, 2009 at 9:54 pm

    Kevin O.
    February 5th, 2009 at 9:49 pm
    “Andruw Jones is a five time all-star, a 10 time gold glove winner, and has 371 career home runs.”

    He is also a player who had a .222 average in 2007 and a very dismal .158 in 2008. That all star player has long departed.

    I’ve said this before but Jones makes Varitek look like a top of the line slugger!

  207. Bronx Jeers February 5th, 2009 at 9:56 pm

    Didn’t Sheets win the Who should the Yankee sign next LoHud poll?

  208. randy l. February 5th, 2009 at 9:58 pm

    “Once again I guess Cashman knows what he’s doing.”

    when was the other time?

  209. Doreen February 5th, 2009 at 9:58 pm

    Randy l -

    the book also said that everyone was agreed that Bernie was done, including Torre. But Torre changed his mind.

    Hey, Phelps was a bust. Mientkiewicz wasn’t horrible, because at least he made up for his offense with some good defense. And then he got hurt.

    I wish Bernie had accepted the minor league offer, understand from a matter of pride why he might not.

    If Giambi could play first base, there’s no issue here; Bernie comes back because they could afford the roster spot.

    But the thing of it is, Torre held a grudge. That’s part of what I took from that.

    And, randy, no one else made Bernie an offer to play somewhere else.

  210. Betsy February 5th, 2009 at 10:02 pm

    I loved the Bat Signal, Doreen! LOL Everyone was so serious on that show and that’s what sold it…….I used to think Robin was so cute, too. My favorite villains were the Joker and Frank Gorshin’s Riddler. I also thought Julie Newmar as the absolute perfect Catwoman – wow, she was gorgeous.

    S.O.S…..I only grew up with them on repeats, so I didn’t have to wait a whole week to find out if Robin would get eaten by those alligators or if Batman would climb out of vat of hot acid in time. The episodes were usually aired back to back…lucky me! The Batman movie, made in 1966, was really cool as well. Lee Meriweather was a pretty good Catwoman and the exploding shark at the beginning was classic. I loved the corny jokes as well…

    Ed, those Pows/Aarghs/Bams were the best…….They probably should have quit before Batgirl, though.

    I only watch old tv shows – Brady Bunch, Gilligan’s Island, Mr. Ed, the Patty Duke show (underrated classic, IMO), Bob Newhart show, Love Boat, Fantasy Island, I Love Lucy……

    One show I remember was a show called Lime Street, with Robert Wagner. It starred a 13 year old named Samantha Smith. She was the girl who, at age 9 or 10, wrote a letter to Gorbachev and was subsequently invited to the Soviet Union. At 13, she was very pretty and talented……unfortunately, she was killed in a plane crash not long into Lime Street’s run. It was a real shame……

  211. Betsy February 5th, 2009 at 10:03 pm

    Anyone remember Out of this World? It was about a girl whose father is an alien (voice by Burt Reynolds) and she communicates with him via a cube. She could stop time by putting her fingers together, lol.

    Another show I remember was a Loni Anderson vehicle called Easy Street………it wasn’t very good, but for some reason, I Liked it, lol

  212. Betsy February 5th, 2009 at 10:06 pm

    How could I forget the Dick Van Dyke show? I love that man – he is so incredibly talented. I never watched the Mary Tyler Moore show on reruns except for the Chuckles the Clown episode………maybe the funniest show ever. What about Taxi? Reverend Jim was a classic – “what……….is…….a yellow……light” LOL

  213. Tom February 5th, 2009 at 10:07 pm

    Here is what I don’t understand about Bernie. I know he wanted a major league deal, but was only offered a minor league one; however, does anybody really think Torre would have cut him?

  214. Betsy February 5th, 2009 at 10:11 pm

    Lots of Dodgers starred on some classic shows:

    Leo Durocher on the Munsters (another great show – not fond of the Addams Family) and Mr. Ed (seriously – a horse galloping around the diamond ? Classic)..

    Wes Parker and Don Drysdale on the Brady Bunch

    Sandy Koufax, Leo, Johnny Roseboro – Mr. Ed.

  215. Doreen February 5th, 2009 at 10:11 pm

    The Patty Duke show was a fun show.

    When Nickolodeon first started, I guess back in the early 80′s, the used to air these shows all the time.

    With the catalog of tv shows that exists, why, oh, why has Nick at Night (or TV Land, or whichever of those networks on cable) stuck us with a lineup of 2 Home Improvement, followed by 2 George Lopez, lather, rinse, repeat. Or The Fresh Prince, or even, MASH, ad infinitum. It seems like they should be able to get a lot more creative in their programming.

    I mean, you could have a 50′s night, a 60′s night, a comedy night by decade; a sci-fi series night. I could go on, but you get my drift.

    With the number of television stations available on cable or satellite, why, oh why is it the same stuff over and over? And why can’t they indulge people like me, whose Friday and Saturday night party days are long over, and put on some of these shows? There is literally NOTHING on during the weekends. It’s insulting.

    Of course during baseball season, the problem almost goes away…..

  216. Doreen February 5th, 2009 at 10:12 pm

    It would actually help DVD sales to air these series, too.

  217. saucy February 5th, 2009 at 10:13 pm

    I remember Out of This woRld too.

    I think the bigger issue with ex stars taking minor league deals is traveling on a bus. More so than pride, at least.

  218. randy l. February 5th, 2009 at 10:14 pm

    doreen-

    i’m not going to be able to put this into words, but when cashman went against bernie i knew he was a a smuck( i’d use another word but it wouldn’t make it through the censors). and in over his head.

    there are some things you do that are so bad in life you never get to take them back. cashman put a curse on himself on that one.

    from that point on nothing good has happened with cashman. what have they won? nada.

    the yankees won’t win until cashman is gone.
    it’s going to be known as the curse of bernie.

  219. Betsy February 5th, 2009 at 10:15 pm

    http://blogs.nypost.com/sports......html#more

    Joel calling Torre out on the truth about A-Rod……Of course, this doesn’t make the Yankee players look so hot themselves.

    I really can’t get past the A-Fraud thing. If it’s true that the A-Fraud thing was done in jest, directly to Alex, then Joe is guilty of lying in the book. If it’s true that the A-Fraud thing was done in jest, but that players ALSO at some point called Alex that behind his back, then Joe is guilty of withholding specific information (conveniently, the type of information that would humanize the guy and show that he was not disliked on his own team).

  220. Betsy February 5th, 2009 at 10:15 pm

    http://blogs.nypost.com/sports......html#more

    Joel calling Torre out on the truth about A-Rod……Of course, this doesn’t make the Yankee players look so hot themselves.

    I really can’t get past the A-Fraud thing. If it’s true that the A-Fraud thing was done in jest, directly to Alex, then Joe is guilty of lying in the book. If it’s true that the A-Fraud thing was done in jest, but that players ALSO at some point called Alex that behind his back, then Joe is guilty of withholding specific information (conveniently, the type of information that would humanize the guy and show that he was not disliked on his own team).

  221. Doreen February 5th, 2009 at 10:16 pm

    randy l –

    All I can say to that is I certainly hope you’re wrong.

  222. GreenBeret7 February 5th, 2009 at 10:21 pm

    Betsy
    February 5th, 2009 at 10:02 pm
    I loved the Bat Signal, Doreen! LOL Everyone was so serious on that show and that’s what sold it…….I used to think Robin was so cute, too. My favorite villains were the Joker and Frank Gorshin’s Riddler. I also thought Julie Newmar as the absolute perfect Catwoman – wow, she was gorgeous.

    S.O.S…..I only grew up with them on repeats, so I didn’t have to wait a whole week to find out if Robin would get eaten by those alligators or if Batman would climb out of vat of hot acid in time. The episodes were usually aired back to back…lucky me! The Batman movie, made in 1966, was really cool as well. Lee Meriweather was a pretty good Catwoman and the exploding shark at the beginning was classic. I loved the corny jokes as well…

    Ed, those Pows/Aarghs/Bams were the best…….They probably should have quit before Batgirl, though.

    I only watch old tv shows – Brady Bunch, Gilligan’s Island, Mr. Ed, the Patty Duke show (underrated classic, IMO), Bob Newhart show, Love Boat, Fantasy Island, I Love Lucy……

    One show I remember was a show called Lime Street, with Robert Wagner. It starred a 13 year old named Samantha Smith. She was the girl who, at age 9 or 10, wrote a letter to Gorbachev and was subsequently invited to the Soviet Union. At 13, she was very pretty and talented……unfortunately, she was killed in a plane crash not long into Lime Street’s run. It was a real shame……

    ————————————————————

    Batman got a lot better when Commisioner Gordon’s daughter, Barbara put on the skin tight leathers and became Batgirl (Yvonne Craig was gorgeous). Eartha Kitt was also Catwoman. Vincent Price, Burgess Merideth, Liberace, Victor Buono (King Tut) were great.

    The spinoff to the show was “The Green Hornet” with Van Williams and Bruce Lee as Kato.

  223. Max February 5th, 2009 at 10:23 pm

    Mike Cameron is terrible. The last thing the Yanks need is another whiff machine. Last vid I saw of Andruw, he had a belly that made me feel good about myself. If anything, the Mets should sign him as a flyer for RF. He hasn’t been a great CF since he bulked up a few years back. He’s been living on rep. I want a true CF to hit 9th. A Gardner type fast slappy great defense guy but not sure if he’s ready. I’d much rather give him a shot than the other options I’ve heard.

  224. pat February 5th, 2009 at 10:25 pm

    Doreen

    Did you watch the Costas interview? Wondering how it played from someone who read the book.

  225. Doreen February 5th, 2009 at 10:26 pm

    Another two shows that probably were only on for a season or two at the most were Please Don’t Eat the Daisies (with Pat Crowley) and The Ghost & Mrs. Muir (with Hope Lange). I think they were both movies first. The “Daisies” show had a bit sheepdog and what seemed like a lot of kids. Either the wife or the husband was a writer, I think. Anyway, I loved the house it was set in.

  226. Betsy February 5th, 2009 at 10:26 pm

    Saucy, you got the Magic Garden in before I did, lol! It’s actually out on DVD now….

    Doreen, my partying days never began, lol. My big kick in high school and college was spending time in the library/bookstore! I completely agee. TV Land has turned into one big reality show. I don’t care about high school reunions and that kind of thing…..and enough with the Andy Griffith and MASH repeats, lol.

  227. Todd February 5th, 2009 at 10:27 pm

    Joe Namath & Rosie Greer were on the Brady bunch too…

  228. Doreen February 5th, 2009 at 10:27 pm

    pat -

    No, my husband gets home about 8 pm so I was pre-occupied. :) I guess I’ll have to see if they replay it somewhere.

  229. Betsy February 5th, 2009 at 10:28 pm

    Bernie didn’t return phone calls – IMO, he was rude and out of line. His pride got in the way of accepting a ST invite? That was his problem, not Cashman’s.

  230. Mark in Tampa February 5th, 2009 at 10:30 pm

    GB7,

    I recently read a book called The Jedburghs, written by a former SF officer, Bill Irwin. It is a non-fiction book about, obviously, the OSS Jedburgh teams infiltrated into France in 1944. He has detailed accounts of the experiences of about 5 of the teams.

    One on the team leaders, who I am sure you are familiar with, Aaron Bank, wrote a great fictional book called Knight’s Cross. He was given the mission to capture Hitler in the closing days of the war. The mission was scrapped, but the book is an interesting what-if.

  231. bigjf February 5th, 2009 at 10:31 pm

    I think the best option to start out the season is to try Damon as the everyday CF. Yes, his arm stinks, but he can still go back and get the ball. I’d hate to see Swisher on the bench. I can live with Nady on the bench, even though he’s making too much money this year for that. Maybe one of them will be traded (hopefully Damon or Nady, if anybody), but there’s enough flexibility where you can put Melky in for defense late in the game (maybe shift Damon over to LF at that point). I don’t know whether Matsui will see anytime in the field, but I agree that I can’t see Gardner or Melky forcing someone like Swisher to the bench.

  232. randy l. February 5th, 2009 at 10:33 pm

    doreen-

    i’ll try to tone it down because all reading this book is doing is making me remember why i didn’t like cashman in the first place.

  233. PAT M. February 5th, 2009 at 10:34 pm

    Great game…Lakers ( plus 6.5 ) vs. Boston….Nick in SF,,,do you have any action on this game ???

  234. Betsy February 5th, 2009 at 10:36 pm

    GB, as I’m not a guy, I can’t say as I have much use for Batgirl. She was the Scrappy Doo of Superhero tv shows – she just got in the way. Eartha Kitt was ok – no one could hold a candle to Julie Newmar, though. Vincent Price as Egghead was classic……I remember Liberace, lol. He played twins on the show. Ah, I loved the King Tut character…….Art Carney played the Minstrel, lol, and Shelley Winters played Ma Parker. What a cast of characters, lol.

    I never saw the Green Hornet, just the Batman eppy of same.

    Todd, that’s right, lol. The Bradys sure knew/had connections to famous people – Davy Jones, Desi Arnez, Jr. (according to Alice, her friend was Lucy’s housekeeper, lol).

    Another funny show that I only saw a few times was Car 54, Where are You?…..

  235. randy l. February 5th, 2009 at 10:36 pm

    “That was his problem, not Cashman’s.”

    the curse thinks otherwise.

  236. saucy February 5th, 2009 at 10:37 pm

    Another show I liked as a kid, but not a kid show, was Uncle Floyd. I didn’t realize they were all reruns though.

  237. GreenBeret7 February 5th, 2009 at 10:37 pm

    Will the real Frank Gorshin please stand up?

    http://ckuik.com/Frank_Gorshin

  238. Doreen February 5th, 2009 at 10:40 pm

    Randy l =

    You don’t have to tone it down. I think it’s clear what your opinion is of Cashman, so I kind of know what to expect. :) No one is going to change that opinion. It doesn’t bother me. I don’t understand the intensity of your dislike of him, and you don’t understand why I tend to give him the benefit of the doubt. That’s okay by me. It makes for interesting conversation.

  239. pat February 5th, 2009 at 10:41 pm

    randy l

    The Yankees hadn’t won since 2000 and Cash and Bernie got along just fine in most of those years. Your curse theory has some holes.

  240. GreenBeret7 February 5th, 2009 at 10:44 pm

    Pat, you don’t know what cursing is until you hear Randy on the golf course after I beat him…..

    that baseball bat is gonna leave some marks…..and, he’s my partner.

  241. pat February 5th, 2009 at 10:45 pm

    Doreen

    It would be worth a watch.

    Besides Costas being a great listen in general, he went at the interview from a different angle than most others who spoke with Joe.

  242. DT February 5th, 2009 at 10:49 pm

    GB –

    Randy will already be pretty easy to spot on the golf course – he’s the one wearing the catching mask.

  243. Doreen February 5th, 2009 at 10:49 pm

    pat -

    I’m trying to find when it’s going to be rerun or if there’s a venue out there on the web. I have a feeling it’s going to be on a pay-only portion of MLB.com.

    I enjoy Costas’ interview style and I’m glad to hear he approached the interview differently.

  244. randy l February 5th, 2009 at 10:50 pm

    pat m-

    i just got a game action phone photo of the celtics/lakers game
    from a woman i’m seeing who’s there, but i sent my clever text message response asking for cheerleader photos instead……. to my previous girlfriend.

    uh oh. 8O

  245. PAT M. February 5th, 2009 at 10:51 pm

    How many strokes on the front ??? And GB7 are you going with wood or aluminium ???

  246. Doreen February 5th, 2009 at 10:51 pm

    Just found it. It’s going to replay at 1 AM. I don’t know if I’ll make it. I need to look for a second rerun! :)

  247. Doreen February 5th, 2009 at 10:51 pm

    Also 5 AM. Hmm…

  248. GreenBeret7 February 5th, 2009 at 10:53 pm

    PAT M.
    February 5th, 2009 at 10:51 pm
    How many strokes on the front ??? And GB7 are you going with wood or aluminium ???

    ————————————————————

    Strictly wood, Pat M. Never could stand the sound of that “ping, Ping”.

  249. Doreen February 5th, 2009 at 10:53 pm

    Oh! All tomorrow morning! Whew! So, I’ll probably sit down to watch it tomorrow at 9 after my daughter leaves for school.

    You know, I’ve gotten very little accomplished this week!

  250. ray (sox fan) February 5th, 2009 at 10:54 pm

    I’ll probably end up looking silly, but I’m calling it. Boston will win it in the last 7 seconds here. :)

  251. pat February 5th, 2009 at 10:55 pm

    GB

    Cursing myself on a golf course is a given.

    When I was learning my dad used to say play fast, replace your divots, rake the traps and nobody cares how bad you play as much as you do. I never played with a baseball bat but it might have helped. :smile:

  252. DT February 5th, 2009 at 10:55 pm

    I thought the Costas interview was quite good. When Bob started giving the Klapisch quotes you could see Torre was starting to squirm a bit. (trying to stay on talking points)

    Doreen – thanks for your book review btw. Good job. I think you (or maybe it was someone else) mentioned Girardi got nary a mention – were there any other noticeable absences?

  253. ray (sox fan) February 5th, 2009 at 10:55 pm

    Yup….I’m looking silly!

  254. randy l February 5th, 2009 at 10:56 pm

    “Randy will already be pretty easy to spot on the golf course – he’s the one wearing the catching mask.”

    not only that, the wild way orville moody says gb7 hits the golf ball , i’m wearing a cup too.

  255. jennifer February 5th, 2009 at 10:58 pm

    What happened to Sam? He fell down on the job.

  256. GreenBeret7 February 5th, 2009 at 10:59 pm

    Mussina sets the record straight about Rivera remarks.

    http://newyork.yankees.mlb.com.....8;c_id=nyy

  257. Bob Mac February 5th, 2009 at 11:03 pm

    Good memories on the old tv shows people. I’d have to say Bret Maverick was my favorite old character with Jim Rockford in second.
    I was laughing to myself the other day about the Rob Petrie playing golf and getting sick when his wife had a party planned.
    I love the idea of a different night by decade or otherwise on TVLand.

  258. Doreen February 5th, 2009 at 11:04 pm

    DT -

    For a guy who is going to be a surefire first ballot HOFer and a player most people consider the MVP for the Yankees from 1996 to now, Mariano Rivera, while not completely ignored, got relatively little mention.

    Does anyone else remember he had to leave the playoffs in either 2003 or 2004 because there was a family tragedy in Panama? I would have thought something would have been mentioned at least in passing about that.

  259. GreenBeret7 February 5th, 2009 at 11:05 pm

    pat
    February 5th, 2009 at 10:55 pm
    GB

    Cursing myself on a golf course is a given.

    When I was learning my dad used to say play fast, replace your divots, rake the traps and nobody cares how bad you play as much as you do. I never played with a baseball bat but it might have helped.

    ————————————————————

    It guarantees that nobody will laugh at you or get upset when you don’t replace the divots or rake the traps. God…I was awful. I only gave golf up for world peace.

    ————————————————————

    not only that, the wild way orville moody says gb7 hits the golf ball , i’m wearing a cup too.

    LMAO. It really hurts that you have no confidense in my abilitites. Orville Moody didn’t give me a chance (he was a coward).

  260. PAT M. February 5th, 2009 at 11:06 pm

    What about shinguards ?? Cup is not an option, it’s mandatory…..

  261. Yankee Trader February 5th, 2009 at 11:09 pm

    GB7-

    Listened to Mike Francesa interview Mussina, who came across as honest and very humble. Francesa actually asked some good questions in the 20 or so minute interview. Mussina is staying retired and so far doesn’t miss the grind.

    It would however be nice if he was a July 31st call up if it looks like the Yankees are going to the playoffs, for him to have one last chance at a ring!!

  262. Betsy February 5th, 2009 at 11:09 pm

    Doreen, and will you give us a recap like you did with the book? LOL

  263. bru February 5th, 2009 at 11:10 pm

    thank god we didn’t sign sheets.he is having elbow surgery & will miss most of the year.

    i had a feeling he would need surgery.

  264. GreenBeret7 February 5th, 2009 at 11:12 pm

    Doreen
    February 5th, 2009 at 11:04 pm
    DT –
    For a guy who is going to be a surefire first ballot HOFer and a player most people consider the MVP for the Yankees from 1996 to now, Mariano Rivera, while not completely ignored, got relatively little mention.

    Does anyone else remember he had to leave the playoffs in either 2003 or 2004 because there was a family tragedy in Panama? I would have thought something would have been mentioned at least in passing about that.

    ————————————————————

    Yeah, that happened just before the start of the 2004 ALCS. He flew back to the US right after the funeral, just in time before the start of Game 1. It’s easly to understand that his mind might have been on other things.

  265. Doreen February 5th, 2009 at 11:12 pm

    Betsy -

    Don’t you think I should retire?

    I’ll answer pat’s question – what did I think of it, but that’s it. :)

  266. GreenBeret7 February 5th, 2009 at 11:14 pm

    PAT M.
    February 5th, 2009 at 11:06 pm
    What about shinguards ?? Cup is not an option, it’s mandatory…..

    ————————————————————

    Perhaps Rebecca has a line on where you guys can get some suits of armor.

  267. DT February 5th, 2009 at 11:18 pm

    I forgot all about that Doreen. GB was right – that was in 2004 right after they beat Minny.

    His wife’s cousin and son were electrocuted while cleaning the pool at Mo’s home.

  268. Yankee Trader February 5th, 2009 at 11:20 pm

    Apparently Sheets knew all along that flexor tendon surgery was a possibility, but was trying to go instead with resting it. The Brewers were praying that he’d be signed by another team so they could unload the damaged goods and get a draft pick.

    Instead the Brewers are left with the cost of surgery and rehab for Sheets, who could sign in June with a team, whereupon the Brewers would not get a draft pick.

  269. GreenBeret7 February 5th, 2009 at 11:21 pm

    Pulsipher looked really good, tonight. 6.1 innings, 6 hits, 1 run, 1 walk and 7 strikeouts.

  270. randy l February 5th, 2009 at 11:25 pm

    “What about shinguards ?? Cup is not an option, it’s mandatory…”

    pat m-

    they’ll slow me down.if i don’t wear them, gb7 will have more trouble catching me to beat me with the bat.

  271. bru February 5th, 2009 at 11:25 pm

    the rangers & sheets agreed on a 2 year deal but i believe the rangers didn’t like what they saw in his physical & squashed the deal.

  272. GreenBeret7 February 5th, 2009 at 11:25 pm

    DT, I think it was just before the Boston series started.

    ***The Yankees won their seventh straight American League East championship. In the 2004 ALDS, Mariano appeared in all four games and allowed no earned runs, despite blowing a save.[38] However, following the ALDS, joy turned to mourning for Rivera. He learned that two of his relatives in Panama had been killed at his home when electrified guard wire fell into the pool they were in. Rivera immediately flew home, and his status for the upcoming ALCS was in doubt. Although the funeral in Panama was held on the same day as Game 1 against the Boston Red Sox, Rivera flew 2,200 miles back to New York and arrived at Yankee Stadium in the 5th inning to a standing ovation.[2] Having suffered through a very emotional day, Rivera was able to record a save later that night, as well as in Game 2***

  273. Yankee Trader February 5th, 2009 at 11:25 pm

    Best War Movie against Aliens:

    Independence Day

    Night of the Living Dead-the zombies were sorta like aliens!!!

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    “Stephenson’s official title was British Passport Control Officer. His unofficial mission was to create a secret British intelligence network throughout the western hemisphere, and to operate covertly and very broadly on behalf of the British government and the Allies in aid of winning the war. He also became Churchill’s personal representative to U.S. President Franklin D. Roosevelt.

    Stephenson was soon a very close advisor to FDR, and suggested to Roosevelt that he put Stephenson’s good friend William J. ‘Wild Bill’ Donovan in charge of all U.S. intelligence services. Donovan founded the U.S. wartime Office of Strategic Services (OSS) which eventually became the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA).”

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    Also, kudos to saucy for mentioning Floyd Vivino of the “Uncle Floyd Show” who had a sidekick for the Ages: “Looney” Skip Rooney.

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    The Twilight Zone was a must watch as was the series Mission Impossible.

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    i started watching then i started reading the torre book and missed a lot of it.

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    Cartoon movie: The Point

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    Old(grumpy, rude and mean)YanksFan
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    Yeah, they were some crazy people. “Wild Bill” Donavon was also the Regimental Commander of “The Fighting 69th Infantry” from NYY during WWI. Quite a character.

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    pat m-

    sj44 said as a condition of our match that he wanted us to make sure that we act up enough so that he has to go in front of his club board who he likes to spar with.

    do you think there is any chance that sj44 won’t be in front of that board? i’m trying to decide who’s going to cause sj more trouble, you , me , or gb7.

    i have a hunch it’ll be a synergy thing when together the trouble caused will be more than the some of the parts.

    do you want to break it to gb7 ( or have me do it) that they won’t let him play with just one bat. he’s going to have at least ten bats in his bag .

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    tom-

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    pat m can hook and slice equally well, but i think he’s a bit of a sand bagger who’s better than he’s letting on.

    sj is worried we won’t get him called in front of his country club board because he like to annoy them. i just hope he doesn’t hold any grudges if he has to find a new course to play on.

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