Live-blogging the ESPN interview
Posted by: Peter Abraham - Posted in Misc on Feb 09, 2009 
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Somebody told Alex to use the word “culture” a lot.
It’s also truly hard to believe that any person — never mind a professional athlete — would inject substances into their body for three years without knowing what they were. Yet that is what A-Rod is claiming.
That is simply dangerous to your health.
UPDATE, 6:15 p.m.: Alex now says he has not used since 2004, including blood tests before the 2006 WBC.
UPDATE, 6:16 p.m.: Alex is attacking Selena Roberts now, saying she tried to break into his house. If that is true, that is crossing the line. Peter Gammons did not follow up on that.
UPDATE, 6:18 p.m.: Alex says he wants to help kids and that honesty is the only way. He says he’s tired of being stupid.
UPDATE, 6:19 p.m.: Alex is disappointed in himself, he says. The “culture in Texas” is mentioned again.
UPDATE, 6:24 p.m.: Alex praised Andy Pettitte. “The truth will set you free,” he said. “I’m just proud to be here sharing my story.”
Gammons just asked two questions about his message to children. Really?
Alex said the PED usage was, “an aberration.”
UPDATE, 6:26 p.m.: Selena Roberts released a statement saying Alex’s charges were “absurd.” Given that police records can be checked, we’ll see who is telling the truth. Alex claimed she was cited by police and was escorted off the Miami by campus by police. That can all be verified.
UPDATE, 6:38 p.m.: OK, back at it. A-Rod is making his case for the Hall of Fame.
UPDATE, 6:39 p.m.: Alex went after Jose Canseco, saying he was 100 percent false.
UPDATE, 6:42 p.m.: “I have great certainty that I will overcome this.”
Alex is attacking Roberts again. “She has been stalking me for the last three or four years.”
Gammons again does not follow up to ask what he means.
UPDATE, 6:45 p.m.: Alex says he has not read Torre’s book. He now says everybody makes fun of him in the clubhouse. “It’s a great compliment to me.”
UPDATE, 6:47 p.m.: “I got caught up in the ‘Everbody is doing it’ era,” he says.
There was another question about what he would tell kids.
UPDATE, 6:49 p.m.: The interview is over. Alex’s camp made a good choice in Gammons. It wasn’t exactly Frost/Nixon.
People who support and like A-Rod will believe he came clean. Those who don’t like Alex will find the interview specious. He’s a polarizing figure.
Everything else aside, he admitted he took PEDs for three years. That’s a long time. He also lied about it for six years. That’s a long time, too. Some will believe he’s telling the truth now, some will not. He’s the only one who knows for sure.
i am floored! he is claiming that at the time of the couric interview he didnt know he had ever done steroids!
he is just piling lies on top of lies. this just isnt going to work. he should have just said nothing rather than lying like this, its ridiculous!
Rip job on Selena Roberts
wow this woman is a stalker
“a championship team or 2″ cmon alex think big!!!
pete or anyone that knows the answer to this question:
in interviews like this one with gammons, does the person being interviewed get the questions at all in advance, before coming on camera?
thanks!
It’s called reporting, although breaking into the house was over the line.
No use since 2004 now? This gets better and better.
but he said he woke up and said what was i doing back in 2003, then he denied knowing he had ever done steroids.
now he’s attacking the reporter and he’s saying she is full of baloney! o my god this is a complete disaster!
Aroid doesn’t know what he injected? He is making that up; he is too calculating a thief not too know. He’s done!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
why are the yanks the posterchildren for steroids?
Arod & Selena in a stalker death match?
“the truth will set ye free”" this is just too funny…keep talking a-hole
Gammons and ESPN said that no stipulations were given for the interview and no questions were off limits
he was clean in little league…did he just say that?
This interview is terrible. Gammons is lame/ ARod sounds like a simpleton.
Look at that Rangers clubhouse during those years…Juan Gonzalez, Palmiero, Nitkowski, Pudge, John Rocker, Caminiti and now A-Rod. That’s quite a list for one team, and those are only the guys who got caught. I can only imagine the crap being passed around the weight room.
To scare Yankee fans even more, look at the 1B on that Texas team…that’s right, Teixeira. How long before that mea culpa?
Maybe Aroid brought a bag roid lunch to work with him. Now he hasn’t had roids since 2004? He is a dummy plain and simple. I wonder how long it took him to remember the word culture ?
Pete,
I don’t know about the house issue. If she got cited, that would be in the public records.
Perhaps you can check with the Miami Beach PD to see if she was cited.
I know for a fact she was thrown out of the UM Center and she has shown up unannounced on several occasions this winter.
I’ll leave it to you to judge whether or not she is crossing the line.
Somewhere Jose Canseco is smiling
Saying that he didn’t know what he “ingested” is how he hopes to get around the Couric interview.
He said that he didn’t think he took steroids until this lady told him he failed the test. He’s got 9 more years of playing for people to try to dig into this statement and find out where he got his PEDs and find out if he knew what he was taking. It’s possible that he didn’t know what he was taking, hopefully it’s true.
I hope this marks the last time ESPN hands Gammons the mike in a big situation.
now he’s lying about selena
Geeze I actually think that Alex did a great interview for Alex.
I’m ready to put this all behind and support A-rod. He stepped up, showed contrition, lets get back to baseball and winning #27.
Real classy Selena.
you can’t say you didn’t know you took it until Selena told him he failed, then say you took it for 3 years.
alex looks smaller…maybe he is off the juice…except for hgh of course
I really hope Alex is correct in all of this.
Even one comment that turns out to be untrue will set his entire confession back and allow for additional doubts.
how come all these people i never seen before in this blog are just coming out now and commenting about how arod cheated where have ya benn in the past
He did say he has the papers to prove the trespassing issue from the Miami PD. Why would he make that up?
I wanna know if she was indeed cited by the Miami Beach PD.
I think there has to be truth to what he’s saying about this lady. He brought it up on his own. There is NO benefit in making this up.
A-Rod stepped up? I didn’t know what I took? blaming GNC? I dislike him more today than I did yesterday. Hopefully Swisher and Gardner stay clean so there is someone to root for on this team.
It’s one thing to talk about power, it’s quite another to look at his gold gloves, which have nothing to do with steroids and power – nor did they when he was in Seattle.
Hey, I listened to WEEI on the way home and Glen Ordway was defending Arod.
I’m thinking that either consciously or subconsciously other teams keep playing the specter of “the other 103″ and are being suitably respectful because of it. Ordway said as much.
Man .. Ok Alex we forgive you . .Geeezzz its almost like he killed someone .
Cant wait for the season to start
Sj44,
I didn’t hear the Selena stuff. Is she saying that she was never escorted off of the UM Center?
does anybody believe a word he says?
Oh, lordy. I know what A-rod did was deplorable and cheating; however, if A-rod’s allegations are true, Ms. Roberts may be crazy.
OK that’s over.
NEXT!
Pitchers and catchers time!
91,
They are called trolls. Ignore them. They don’t add anything to the debate.
wow…the voice of the yankees
“I didn’t know what I took? blaming GNC?”
I think it’s possible that Alex took plenty of things (more than just the 2 listed). He’s better off just saying “look, i took PED’s” rather than trying to list the names of every substance. Does it really matter? He cheated. He’s attempting to admit it and ask for forgiveness.
this is where some of you don’t seem to get it. You don’t have to inject everything. Some of these can be swallowed too. Him not knowing may simply mean what type or name of a steroid he took. If a trainer tells you here is this one and this is what he does or a friend or another player, etc. is it a surprise he doesn’t know or remember, he may have taken many different kinds as well as a ton of supplements that might be legal.
i am shocked! that was colossally bad!
roberts has already called him on his allegations and im betting we all know who’s going to prove correct there.
if its even possible, he has lowered his credibility even further!
one thing i do believe is that he didnt discuss his answers with anyone, b/c anyone could have provided him with better advice than what he came out with.
i just cant believe it!
I want to see this police report.
I think Michael hit it on the head. I am just so grateful that he admitted. I think we were all prepared for denial or silence so this feels good.
ARoid has to be asked
1) Are you using HGH
2) Did Jose Canseco hook you up with ____ (whatever that guy’s name was)
3) Did you get inject steroids in your behind?
4) Do you think any records you get wull be tainted becasue you cheated
And… why didnt he look at the camera a lot… he looked and acted like he was lying.. which he is good at
A-rod better watch himself. If he’s wrong about Roberts’s actions she may sue him. Or, at least write a chapter about it in her next book.
Rebecca I doubt you’ll see the police report. But I bet you may hear about it one way or the other dear.
A-rod doesn’t want to throw some of his old friends under the bus by saying what he bought and who he bought it from.
can’t wait for someone to bring in one of those people who can read by peoples actions whether they are telling the truth or not.
Ham Fighters,
SJ is saying that there may be some truth to at least some of Alex’s claims regarding Selena.
reserve judgement…
Listen to the interview people. It makes perfect sense that he didn’t ask what he was taking or that he even wanted to know. If say Jose Canseco was giving me PED’s I truly wouldnt want to know and would want to convince myself that I wasnt doing anything illegal. It is much more easing to the conscience to be able to believe that you might not actually be doing anything wrong.
Wang you are playing both sides. Peter in his post said that selena would be over the line if she did that. And Pete, I’m really looking forward to that verification.
And i dont want to hear how he should be “commended”. He is sorry he got caught. He lied to everybody on 60 minutes and only told the truth when confronted with the evidence. This guy is no victim and deserves all the “bashing” that comes his way now. And this is coming from someone who has supported him for a long time.
“Rebecca I doubt you’ll see the police report”
Isn’t it public record?
I imagine it will get posted on the net, if there is one.
Boston Dave,
I totally agree. Who cares if he admits exactly what he took. He admitted he cheated. Whether it was GNC, desinger roids, Conseco/Pettite/Clemens’ stash he admitted he broke the rules. Why would he lie about the Selena Roberts debacle. He said nothing derogatory towards the union even though he could have ripped them a new “a-hole (NY post jab). Some of you need to get a life.
The new A-Rod
Roberts has to be loving this. Free pub!!
Gotta sell that new book. Ching Ching. $$$
Roberts was asked about the 104 names on MLB interview. She didn’t deny she had all the names. She respects the “process”.
this is a great interview so far and he ask for his forgiveness an i forgive him
Alex is innocent again till proven guilty of using while a Yankee. What will he say then. “I was older but still naieve” {could never spell that word}
this guys is still my favorite player and he always will be. I believe the guy..he apologized and lets move on. Peter Gammons is a retarded..Selena Roberts is retarded. it was a great apology and i forgive him
He said he had the paper (about the house in Miami) and looked like he made a move to go get it. He was seriously p-d off about Ms. Roberts. He spoke about she was doing a book on him. It’ s not inconceivable that she was relentlessly trying to gain access to him? I seriously hope Alex told the truth and did not exaggerate for effect here, because anything short of 100% of the truth puts everything under further scrutiny.
Check this out. WEEI said that a poll of 39000 people on ESPN asked if they believed Arod used steroids after 2004.
Those who didn’t believe – 56%
Those who believed he did – 44%
(The numbers may have changed since my ride home. It will be interesting to see the numbers after this interview.)
I know she was asked to leave the campus. I don’t know if it was campus police that escorted her out or she left on her own.
My info is, she walked into the Hecht Center work out area. She approached him and confronted him Re: the test. He gave his answer and walked away.
She followed him and at that time was asked to leave.
I trust the person who gave me the info.
She has also showed up and confronted him with questions at other times this winter.
She is writing an unauthorized bio on him.
Something that is an issue when discussing this, IMO.
PLEASE REMEMBER… this “journalist” was the fool who “broke” the Duke Lacrosse story. She embarrassed the NY Times (which is why she doesn’t work there anymore) and she stills refuses to admit she was wrong.
again, for those who dont believe it’s hard to remember what you were taking. Some of them can be ingested – not all of them need to be injected.
http://www.steroidology.com/st.....names.html
100% not true..LOL. yeah that makes me believe you more A-rod.
Did you 100% not take those roids in the katie couric interview? Or was that just 75% ??
Ms. Roberts was also one who went after the Duke Lacrosse players hard apparently. Alex’s accusations are pretty strong against her so I don’t necessarily believe him now, but her motivation before the report and her digging up all she can on him, I am sure this was not a positive book on Arod to begin with and she probably doesn’t come up roses on her journalistic approaches either. This is to further her career no doubt regardless of finding this stuff on him.
I work at a theme park here in Florida. We have cops here on the weekends. from what i’ve seen they don’t alwways cite people. they just might escort them pout of the premises and live it at that. So she might have not been cited, just escoirted out.
Who would buy that book?
If you hate ARod are you going to blow 25$ on a book on him?
If you like the guy do you want to buy a book that trashes him?
My take away was that he took lots of different things that were banned. He said he “experimented”. He also said he hadn’t heard the word Primobalan til the other day.
Some of it was clearly scripted, and I would have preferred a little less emphasis on his naivete, but overall I think this did the job.
Yes, obviously people can nitpick particular words or phrases, but I think he got the basics out. He was wrong, he’s sorry, he took some number of substances he shouldn’t have been taking for his three years in Texas. I think he was particularly good on the union question. He wasn’t going to blame the union, he is the only one responsible.
Overall, about the best he could do at this point.
Boston Dave, I was speaking in a manner of speaking.
Yes I’m sure if someone decides to post it it will be seen. Of course that would merely take going to the Miami Police station if one is that obssessed.
I guess I will wait for some official report. I really don’t need to see anything.
Doreen,
Exactly. The way I see it, why would he lie about that. He has nothing to gain. The story is out. He had to response when Gammons asked him about the union. He could have just as easily spent 5 minutes disintegrating the state of the MLB union. She approached him in a gym in Miami. I highly doubt Alex goes to a public gym such as Golds or NYSC club. Is she a student at UMIAMI? Last time I checked you cannot enter a college gym without a student ID or special access.
“Overall, about the best he could do at this point.”
I agree.
“Roberts was asked about the 104 names on MLB interview. She didn’t deny she had all the names. She respects the “process”.”
I think this is an issue as well. Although Pete and others do, I still can’t blame anyone who feels like Selena Roberts has it out for Alex, specifically.
I can hear his blood pressure rise when talking about Selena Roberts
even if you only have to swallow it and not inject it, if you are a PRO athelete you KNOW EXACTLY what you are putting into your body. Alex probably has it down to the exact calorie what he is taking in, let alone what pills he is swallowing. Wake up. His body is his livelihood. Any amateur athlete knows EXACTLY what they are putting in their body, let alone a professional. Get a clue. He knows what he took
what if selena comes up missing tomorrow…what a scandal that would be.
What is the big deal if he doesn’t know the exact type of steroid as long as he is admitting he took steroids? This is really some reaching by reporters who still want there to be a shred of scandal to dig into. Sorry that the guy confessed and scooped you! How pathetic.
I will add, I hope he has a police report on any incident at his home.
If he doesn’t, that ain’t good.
I really thought that Alex did a credible interview and gave a lot more than I thought he would. I think he was forthright and the fact that he didn’t say what he took – sometimes people don’t want to know.
Doreen, I thought what you did when he talked about Roberts he looked like he was reaching for a paper.
Alex gave a lot more than Giambi or Pettitte did. I hope that the media will stop analyzing his every word and just let’s get on with baseball.
Oh yay. Back to the Torre book
Of course this Selena is biased, and the only reason this is probably getting out is because she has a book to write, and has the cash to pay someone for the info. But I love his statements regarding the Hall, and 14 years from now is enough time to make his case. He’s a lock anyway IMO
“PLEASE REMEMBER… this “journalist” was the fool who “broke” the Duke Lacrosse story. She embarrassed the NY Times (which is why she doesn’t work there anymore) and she stills refuses to admit she was wrong.”
Ah yes.
If you do searches for her on the internet, seems like quite a few people were not too happy with her including her aggressive approach chasing after Lebron James.
Alex is promoting her book more though the more he spits her name out.
“Some of it was clearly scripted, and I would have preferred a little less emphasis on his naivete,”
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Clare,
I agree. I was hoping for “I knew what I was doing was wrong but felt like I needed that edge. I can’t do anything but accept this blame and ask for forgiveness”
from previous thread.
For the people who are asking who will break Aarons record?
How do we know for sure that Aaron was completely clean through out his baseball career? I mean the other day I heard that the american olympic team were using steroids in the 60’s i believe. No one is innocent IMO. As far as getting into the HOF. He played against roided competition. If we know now that most were probably taking it then it was fair game. In 9 years, I think they are all put in the hof but with an invisible asterisk.
is the interview with alex continuing on 1050? I can’t hear it here…
A Fraud questions? I think this interview has officially lost a wheel.
Hmm, who know A-Fraud was just good old fun? Apparently he loves it.
*the nickname A-Fraud
“I will add, I hope he has a police report on any incident at his home.
If he doesn’t, that ain’t good.”
SJ44,
If even one comment he makes proves to be false, it will discredit it all. So yes, I hope he does. I don’t know why he needed to give so much information on Roberts anyway.
A-Rod is going to kill it this year. Just watch.
I stopped watching after the first commercial break (still at work), but I think he’s trying to pre-empt the Roberts book. His hostility towards her lends some credence to the link Betsy posted yesterday which allegs the book is delving into his sexual history.
Did he just blame the coaching?
Where, anywhere, does he mention a PED on MLB’s list? Where?
M
http://www.towleroad.com/2009/.....o-que.html
So let me get this staright – the pressure of the contract in Texas drove him to use roids. So we are supposed to believe once he got to NY where there is a million times more pressure, he stopped? He should have stayed and hid in the Bahamas.
Did you here TJ Quinn on ESPN? No one takes the stuff he failed for by accident.
oh, the rest of you ‘fans’ are too busy bashing Roberts to realize your hero is a fraud.
This reporter sounds and looks more and more like the fatal attraction chick.
SJ,
Not sure if you read my post on the 18 month down fall of Alex. Did you mean that about his personal life or business or both? The opt out was sooner than that, so i was assuming that wasnt part of it.
“PLEASE REMEMBER… this “journalist” was the fool who “broke” the Duke Lacrosse story. She embarrassed the NY Times (which is why she doesn’t work there anymore) and she stills refuses to admit she was wrong.”
Why is this relevant? The information presented in the A-Rod story is true; what is the point of attacking the messenger here? I understand being upset about a player one likes being hit by this scandal, but turning around and trying to nail Serena Roberts is ridiculous.
Where, anywhere, does he mention a PED on the MLB’s list?
He doesn’t.
Ahh, we have another 8 years to look forward to with this self-destructing cancer. I truly believe nothing A-Rod says, and I bet he doesn’t even believe himself half the time.
All the money in the world can’t buy you ethics, supporters, or honesty.
If there were only a way to shed this bad penny . . .
Just have a feeling that he is going to have an absolutely stellar season, 2007-esque. He has always had talent and he will focus on baseball to proove himself.
Clare,
That makes sense.
At least, the more Alex divulges and the more honest he gets would seem to make Roberts book less interesting. It will all be old news in a couple months.
Before he said he had no idea that he failed the drug test. Wouldn’t it at least cross his mind, knowing that he was taking something at the time of the test?
I still think he is covering some things up. I’m very interested to see this police report.
Until Roberts names her source, I’ll believe it was Alex’s ex-wife & Jose Canseco, and she’s on (at least to some deree)a self-promoting mission instead of a pure journalistic endeavor. Correct info or not, there’s a huge difference.
He should have stayed in the Bahamas
To his credit, he refuses to give up his former teammates in Texas. That clubhouse must have had a steroid buffet table.
“and what makes me upset is that sports illustrated pays this lady, selena roberts, to stalk me. i mean, this lady’s been thrown out of my apartment in new york city, this lady has, 5 days ago she’s been thrown out of the university of miami police for tresspassing. and 4 days ago, she tried to break into my house while my girls are up there sleeping, and got cited by the miami beach police, i have the paper here…”
response by selena roberts:
“the allegations made by alex rodriguez are absurd. i’ve never set foot in the lobby of alex’s new york apartment building, never spoken to the university of miami police, and never set foot on his home property or been cited by the miami police for doing so.”
Boston Dave,
Yes, but sex sells. Roberts broke the steroids story now, but you know she’s saving something new for the book.
Gammons kinda praises Arod. Weird!!
“Who would buy that book?
If you hate ARod are you going to blow 25$ on a book on him?
If you like the guy do you want to buy a book that trashes him?”
Can we say the same thing about Torre’s book?
Yankee Guy,
Alex knew he took PEDs and that there was a chance he failed. But unless someone tells you that you failed the test, you can never be 100% sure. Of course it had to have been in the back of his mind.
Whether or not he knew if he actually failed isn’t as important. He knew he cheated.
Couple of things.
Would Serena Roberts be considered an investigative reporter? Let’s pretend for an instant that she is.
1. Investigative reporters often push the envelope.
2. Attempting to enter someone’s home without invitation is clearly crossing the line. I’m sure Alex’s home has cameras. And surely he lives in a gated community?
3. Dogging someone in the paper and stalking someone are two different things.
4. Is the workout area off limits to anyone who’s not a student or an alumnus?
5. Lots of gray area here, but probably a little bit of truth on both sides.
arod did good he was being honest even peter gammons said he was very impreesed of how honest arod was
I do believe Arod will have a monster season (especially with Tex next to him) this season. The monkey is off his back, not totally off, but he will be at peace for the first time since being a Yankee.
Still, whatever her motivation, the story that came out was a good, solid piece of journalism. Not a story that a lot of people WANTED to see, but a good bit of reporting nonetheless.
But yes, I do agree that her sources are important — not so much to me personally, but obviously MLB, the Union, and A-Rod should be very, very interested in finding out who is leaking information.
Well, Alex is already an established Liar, we all accept that.
If anything he just said is PROVEN incorrect by multiple credible eyewitnesses, police reports, etc, would anyone here concede that this interview even made things worse?
SOS,
Personal.
Cynthia isn’t the source. She would never do that to him. She was at the house during the entire interview.
That’s not how she rolls.
Boston Dave – good point, thanks.
Look…as much as this needed to come out, every article Selena Roberts writes is tabloid-material, and sensationalistic. I doubt Alex’s claims about her are true, however, there’s a reason why she doesn’t write for the NY Times anymore. She digs for muck, consistently, all in the hopes of ruination, not creativity.
That being said, A-Rod is the definition of a dunce. He needs to sit in the corner for another 9 years with the dunce cap.
Overall, very good interview by ARod. Totally owned up to it. Gave exact time he stopped. Sure, he didn’t list everything he took. Big deal. He did say he took multiple things. Like anybody here remembers everything they did 6 and 8 years ago.
I’m a little worried about the Roberts quotes. We all know ARod speaks in hyperpole sometimes, so I hope he’s not oversting things here. Obviously he’s annoyed, and I doubt that the Roberts stuff was in his talking points.
Clare,
Perhaps. I guess the inevitable NY news headlines “A-Roid likes she-males” will fuel that fire…
…but I have a feeling that people have had enough. I’m sure some books will sell but for most, they will probably be so sick of this that it won’t sell quite as many copies as hoped.
Unless of course she is saving a couple extra names from that list for the book???
“I think this is an issue as well. Although Pete and others do, I still can’t blame anyone who feels like Selena Roberts has it out for Alex, specifically.”
YESH… her career was left for dead after her accusations-comments regarding the Duke Rapists… SO, this is her way to redeem herself.
Hey J… I hear ‘ya. BUT, I don’t want people to claim that she was just digging up the truth… Doing a good job, doing what a reporter does… In fact, she doesn’t deserve any gratitude b/c this is a self-serving endeavor on her part.
Why only release Arod’s name? Actually, I have serious doubts how she “stumbled” upon this information… Why now? Why her? Just too many coincidences here for me. We have a woman who was virtually dead in her profession when she committed career suicide for her wild claims, and we have a test which took place 6 years ago resurface just days before ST begins? Don’t be naive.
“It’s also truly hard to believe that any person — never mind a professional athlete — would inject substances into their body for three years without knowing what they were. Yet that is what A-Rod is claiming.”
Pete,
He never admitted to injecting anything.
“I doubt that the Roberts stuff was in his talking points.”
I was thinking the same thing. He gave quite a bit of detail. He could have made his opinion of Roberts clear without setting himself to be proven wrong.
If even the smallest detail doesn’t hold up, it will allow for doubt of his entire confession.
No matter what exaggerations he told during the interview, he’s still came out and admitted it and fans will remember that.
“Ahh, we have another 8 years to look forward to with this self-destructing cancer.”
I hate to give you the bad news but its 9.
im gonna go out on a limb here and say he probably lied at least 10 times in that interview and most of them will eventually be proven.
what he just did was a complete disaster.
SJ44 -
Was Cynthia who he kept looking at off-camera?
Peter Gammons just gave him a total thumbs up for what he considered to be a forthright interview.
It’s all good from my perspective. He’ll live with the ramifications but this is now behind him in terms of confronting the press.
Such odd timing. Still interesting to me that all Yanks and Mets ever since the Mitchell Report are the only players showing up with steroid allegations. We need to see the 103 names aside from Alex. It’s not to clear Alex’s name, more to clear the Yankees and Mets team names.
I can speculate all I want on Nomar’s instant career decline in 2004 or Ortiz’s freakish career bump. I can keep coming up with more and more players I think juiced and there’s no way of proving me wrong. I will bet anyone that there’s at least one Phillie or Brave or Red Sox star on that list.
Imagine if the names come out and Sammy Sosa and Manny aren’t on the list. They will be the saints of baseball.
Selena Roberts book Hit & Run the Many Lives of Alex Rodriguez
I can see why he is probably ticked off on top of this news. She probably has been going thru his life like a fine toothed comb trying to dig up dirt. Doesn’t sound like a biography it sounds like a rip job.
She lost all creditbility too with the Duke articles amongst other things.
Arod is at fault and should be held accoutable.
And there is nothing to be proud of from her standpoint to do what she does it.
Ham Fighters funny that the interviewer (Gammons) felt the opposite.
I’m going to track down the latest on the ESPN survey and we’ll see how people are feeling about Arod and truth.
Hang on now kids.
I hope he isn’t lying through his teeth about anything he claimed on Selena Roberts. Why did he feel the need to set himself up to be a bigger goat?
Overall – didn’t help him at all IMO. There’s not a chance in hell that he didn’t know exactly what he was taking. Gammons is a fool and should never be allowed to run another interview like that again. And if A-Rod was stupid enough to blatantly lie on 60 Minutes, why can we trust him 100% when he says he has not taken them for 5 years? He didn’t even get the dates consistent!
So everyone here trusts a moron who helped railroad innocent lacrosse players 2 years ago more than Alex Rodriguez? Give me a break. Once somebody produces a witness, she’s toast–thank goodness.
The woman has a history of pushing the edge, unethically.
Alex came out and admitted he took PEDs. What else can he do? He also said that he took nothing after 2003. Why can’t we believe him? Let the thing rest.
If Roberts knows the other 103, why just expose Alex? Why not expose them all? Why? Because she’s a vindictive psycho stalker.
The rest of the sports press better get your ducks in a row prettty quickly, or else she’s taking you all down…
He came across very honest and sincere. I mean, at points, the guy had a tear in his eye. After his media inquisition at Spring Training, it’s time to get over it. Steroid use was just a prevalent, common place occurrence in the clubhouse. TIme to move on people.
Rally around A-Rod.
“Some will believe he’s telling the truth now, some will not. He’s the only one who knows for sure.”
True dat.
“Imagine if the names come out and Sammy Sosa and Manny aren’t on the list. They will be the saints of baseball.”
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The sad thing is, just because a player isn’t on that list doesn’t mean they never used. It means they didn’t use… or they never got caught.
Test everyone year round for all PED’s. Or we will never get beyond this.
I don’t feel I’m being naive, my point here is simply that attacks on the reporter’s credibility or motivation might have been worthwhile and relevant during the period where we hadn’t been hearing anything from A-Rod, but now that he’s essentially confirmed the information, what purpose do they serve other than to distract from the actual issue at hand? There are perhaps legal issues here regarding how supposedly-confidential information was handled, but that’s not about Roberts; it’s about the actual leakers.
It might not answer all of the questions you have (or the ones I have), but there is a brief Roberts Q&A on SI.com right now that talks a little about the whys and hows of digging up this info.
Does anyone know if whomever released the test results violated federal HIPAA laws?
Doreen,
She and Scott Boras were in the room. I suspect that’s who he was looking at when he glanced off camera.
I just don’t see why A-rod would lie about the Selena Roberts stuff. It would effectively ruin ALL of the credability in regards to the whole interview (which some of you think is suspect to begin with). Hopefully, I am right. If not, A-rod is dumber than I thought.
ANSKY, do you honestly think that his ex-wife would be at the interview if she was the leak? Get serious. The only thing she could have said is “because he told me.” This is an ex-wife, fresh from a nasty divorce. How much credibilty would that carry?
It doesn’t matter whether or not the journalist was or is, biased. Nor how many other miserable individuals are also guilty of betraying a whole series of trusts. The story is about Alex, and Ms. Roberts got it right. Too bad.
Barry Lane
Too many holes in this story, how can someone not know what they were taking. Wait, so if hes clean now, those purple lips are natural??! No. way.
If you like A-Rod you’ll move on…if you don’t you won’t.
10-15 years from now , when arod is eligible for the hall, things could change. if they ever put this era behind them it will be known as the “steroid era” and guys like bonds and arod and whomever else gets nailed for this will be judged more fairly. of course they were hall of famers. hey if everybody was doing it then the playing field was leveled, right? almost gets you feeling sorry for those who didn’t “experiment” with it.
Hey, it also sounded like as long as he doesn’t read Joe’s book, Torre might have been right about that hug between him and Alex the next time they meet – based on what ARod had to say tonight.
“culture in Texas”
It sounds like he’s blaming bush.
SJ is saying that there may be some truth to at least some of Alex’s claims regarding Selena.
reserve judgement…
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Good luck with that, lol.
If Sammy Sosa isn’t on the list, is he a hall of famer?
Wow. this comment page is extremely negative. This guys a Yankee. If you’re a Yankees fan, you should be supporting this guy, especially if you want to win. Support your damn team. Until he gets a positive test and gets suspended, he’s still our player.
Bunch of Bull.
The interview doesn’t change my opinion abt AFraud. I have the same opinion abt him as I have yesterday. He is just digging a deeper hole with all the lies.
First he tell Katie Couric he never took steroids.
Then he admits he took steroids for only 3 years.
Now he wants u to believe that he did steroids for only 3 years and he doesn’t know he took roids? R u kidding me. AFraud thinks America is dumb and will listen what ever he says.
Vader
February 9th, 2009 at 7:06 pm
If you like A-Rod you’ll move on…if you don’t you won’t.
this is so true..
“Hey, it also sounded like as long as he doesn’t read Joe’s book, Torre might have been right about that hug between him and Alex the next time they meet – based on what ARod had to say tonight.”
LOL. Okay, that was funny (and kinda not, if you know what I mean) the part about “as long as he doesn’t read Joe’s book”
Vader -
That’s it, in a nutshell.
J
The reporter’s credibility is precisely the issue at hand!
The guy is likely the best player who ever played baseball, PEDs or not. Like him or hate him, he is one of the premier faces of MLB. How you think about Alex for the rest of his career is inextricably linked to how you think of MLB.
So you have a choice: get over it, and move on, or forever wonder about MLB. Honestly, which would you do? I prefer to believe him, and honestly, the record on the field bears this out–PEDs did not appear to make a difference in his performance.
The picture is one of a very unethical person stopping at nothing, including abetting a likely crime, to produce a story.
Should this impact what we think of the story? You bet. It helps me that an unethical idiot, who should have been banned from news reporting after the Duke fiasco, is behind this obvious unlimited smear job.
I’m willing to believe Alex on this one. This is his only free pass. Pete, you should give this some thought as well.
“R u kidding me. AFraud thinks America is dumb ”
He might have a point. I bet he’s not afraid to use the letters a, e, y and o.
Thanks for the painful clarification, S.O.S. This is hardly behind A-Rod. It will haunt him and his fragile ego forever. And the Yankees will never be able to unload him as he ages. He’ll be injecting himself with Ensure by the time his contract is up.
ESPN POLL
*Do you believe Alex Rodriguez’s contention that he has been steroid-free since 2004?*
Total votes: 100,057
Yes – 54%
No – 46%
While it’s obviously not an overwhelming majority, it is still a majority.
I’ll update this in an hour.
someone to his right had his attention..maybe his lawyer or Reggie Jax
I felt better about him after reading the clips this afternoon than I do after seeing him this evening. I didn’t get the sense he was offering much more than half truths. Credibility, thy name is not Alex.
Still, I think he did what he had to do and hope like hell he’s not caught in a fib and can move on with baseball. His legacy is deservedly in the crapper, but the man still has considerable game and I look forward to seeing it.
Gammons looked like he was conducting interview 101 for the first time in a journalism school.
Angel -
There’s nothing constructive to add to the conversation here about the interview, so I figured I might as well focus on something that had nothing to do with anything! Yah, I know what you mean about it not being funny, at the same time.
“He might have a point. I bet he’s not afraid to use the letters a, e, y and o.”
Honestly, why would he make those comments knowing it something that could easily be checked. I mean I’m assuming there would be some kind of report on it, right?
Gb7,
Did you read my post on the war movie Miracle in St.Annes a couple threads ago?
“I’m willing to believe Alex on this one.”
But he more or less AGREED with the reporting, while expanding upon what was written. Whether or not she is a credible/ethical/etc journalist, the fact is that she got this one right. It’s pretty clear that there’s no love lost between the two of them, but they are NOT disagreeing on the basic facts of this story.
SJ44 February 9th, 2009 at 6:40 pm
I know she was asked to leave the campus. I don’t know if it was campus police that escorted her out or she left on her own.
My info is, she walked into the Hecht Center work out area. She approached him and confronted him Re: the test. He gave his answer and walked away.
She followed him and at that time was asked to leave.
I trust the person who gave me the info.
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true. Selena said this on MLB or ESPN Sunday. In addition she said she presented her credentials and asked the desk if ARod was in and they said yes, and pointed her to his work out location.
I am reading Joe’s book actually. Started it last night… so far I’m glad I decided to read it for myself.
Peter, you keep saying that A-Rod injected. From what I hear, the things that A-Rod failed for were things that you can take in the pill form. Not to say I believe him, but if it was pills, at least it would certainly be more believable.
I don’t necessarily like A-ROd, but I’ll move on. I’ll root for him because he plays for the team. I will not, however, admit to liking the guy.
““culture in Texas”
It sounds like he’s blaming bush.”
Actually, I was reading somewhere that the steroid era in texas began while Bush was President of that organization. Shocking.
But some of you voted for him twice. Stupid is as stupid does it seems.
trisha – Want the truth? Read Canseco’s book.
February 9th, 2009 at 7:12 pm
ESPN POLL
Do you believe Alex Rodriguez’s contention that he has been steroid-free since 2004?
Total votes: 100,057
Yes – 54%
No – 46%
While it’s obviously not an overwhelming majority, it is still a majority.
I’ll update this in an hour.
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Does HGH count?
If you want to vomit turn on MLB TV and watch Verducci trying to get Tom Hicks to say they really got porked by
Alex.
“But he more or less AGREED with the reporting, while expanding upon what was written. Whether or not she is a credible/ethical/etc journalist, the fact is that she got this one right. It’s pretty clear that there’s no love lost between the two of them, but they are NOT disagreeing on the basic facts of this story.”
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If you can point out to me where usually reasonable and known posters ever said she was wrong in her facts, then thats one thing. But people have every right to question her motives, what she stands to gain and her ethics regardless of if the facts are correct. The end does NOT justify the means.
In other words, you can accept that it was factual, while being disgusted by the methods used to get it.
Joltin’ Joe -
Do you even know what HGH does??
think of how you feel looking at the couric interview now.
you are going to feel 10 times worse in a year and a half looking at the gammons interview. the press is going to pick apart every lie he just told and it will NEVER stop now.
he just set roberts up with another whole book.
Joe, no idea.
Injecting steroids evokes a more emotional response, is more graphic and makes a more dramatic point than simply ingesting them.
“The interview is over. Alex’s camp made a good choice in Gammons. It wasn’t exactly Frost/Nixon.”
I don’t recall G-Fraud doing an interview or a big press conference. He only came clean to the Feds because he was spooked about criminal charges. I guess Pete is still Saving the ‘Stache.
why? Doesn’t hgh count?
“He might have a point. I bet he’s not afraid to use the letters a, e, y and o.”
lol.angel. Toy R Us made a killing not using the a and the e.
I think I might pass on that one, Trisha.
injecting steroids is usually in regards to using a needle to do so. Arod never admitted to doing that.
Anyone have any idea where I can watch the interview in full?
Selena Roberts coming on next (MLBTV) to respond to Arod’s allegations.
Casual, I know ESPN said they would be showing it in its entirety again, maybe later on tonight? Check their listings, maybe it’s there.
I don’t understand why everyone is accusing A-Rod of soft-pedaling his knowledge of what he took. I didn’t take his response to be anything more than him not knowing exact names of the drugs. Have you ever seen the names of steroids and the number of different steroids on a controlled substances list? It’s not exactly the names Tom, Bob, and Joe. He probably was taking whatever certain people told him to take with the knowledge that they were steroids, basically not legal and not accepted.
Didn’t answer the question. Therefore I’m to assume your another simpleton who the media has brainwashed into thinking completely wrongs things about HGH. Good to know.
Ham,
What if he is telling the truth? What if he does have a police report about an incident at his home?
I know she got tossed out of UM last week.
What if he is telling truth?
We know he flunked a test.
We also know, she is writing an unauthorized bio on him. Which, among the passages, questions his sexuality.
‘Ya think its not unreasonable for him to feel a certain anger toward her?
She blew her job at the Times over the Duke Lacrosse Case. To this day, she has never issued an apology to those kids.
In other words, unlike Arod today in his Waterloo, she has not offered the same to the folks she slimed in her career Waterloo.
If he isn’t being truthful, I agree with you, he will get smoked for it and rightfully so.
Let’s see how it shakes out.
espnnews….
It would be so nice to live in “da nile” with some of you. I bet the economy is booming there. This was a crock. I am and always will be a Yankees fan in spite of ARod not because him. He’s an idiot. Unfortunately, I need to root for him to become an idiot with a ring. He didn’t know. Pah-lease. What happened to his declaration a while back to all the jealousy being because he’s just so darn good-looking, smart and talented? There isn’t anything real or genuine about this guy except his love of himself.
“I know for a fact she was thrown out of the UM Center and she has shown up unannounced on several occasions this winter.”
Gee, and Roberts made it sound on the MLB Network like last Thursday was the first time she approached hin face to face. She never mentioned that she pursued him previously. I guess full disclosure isnt part of her crack investigative journalism. Maybe she was busy calling her illegal sources.
As far as Pete’s comment that it’s not easy getting the other 103 names… Why is it so difficult? Is it because they are legally protected and you dont have a right to access them? If they are legally protected, isnt it illegal for someone to access them? Ever hear of the 4th Amendment? You know, the protection every citizen has against illegal search & siezzure?
Trisha, I just saw that interview and Hicks thinks the steroid use started before Texas. If that were so then
1. why did he sign Alex
2. Why wouldn’t Alex admit it. He already confessed to 3 years, why lie if it started before. Alex specifically said that he didn’t see anything in Seattle.
lol.angel. Toy R Us made a killing not using the a and the e.
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Yep, they sure did.
I just couldn’t help but notice the irony of that particular post. I’m a sucker for delicious irony.
J
February 9th, 2009 at 7:15 pm
“I’m willing to believe Alex on this one.”
But he more or less AGREED with the reporting, while expanding upon what was written. Whether or not she is a credible/ethical/etc journalist, the fact is that she got this one right. It’s pretty clear that there’s no love lost between the two of them, but they are NOT disagreeing on the basic facts of this story.
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Hey…nothing gets past you, does it? He didn’t dispute anything, so obviusly he agreed with the article about the PEDs.. In fact, he was only asked about 2003, and he added the 2001-2003. He could have kept shut.
J
I am not disputing the facts of the story.
What I am disputing is the rush to judge everything Alex did before and after his steroid use.
This once, I am willing to believe him. The alternative is to believe nobody and nothing about MLB again.
This suggests a way out of the steroid mess for MLB. Have everyone come clean, instate harsh anti-doping rules and enforcement, and move on.
It worked for Andy and Giambi (and destroyed Giambi’s career, but that is another story).
The path that Clemens and Bonds are taking is wrong.
rodg
why don’t you enlighten me and others who might not be as educated as yourself.
I’ve switched over to Jeopardy. I really need to detox from all this. Definitely suffering from overexposure.
Besides, I know how I feel, and I don’t want to hear someone tell me what I just heard and tell me what to think about it. If what I think turns out to be right or wrong, whatever.
Only one thing: I think ARod is hoping that this interview will make life easier this season and I don’t necessarily believe people will be as kindly toward him as they were toward Andy.
Interesting. She was on the U of Miami campus.
Usually where there’s smoke there’s fire.
riddle me this batman:
if he didnt know when he was interviewed by couric in 2006 that he had used steroids, then what was all that rolling around in bed in surprise, az in 2003 about?
this story is swiss cheese!
Heh… the posts keep coming proving Vader 100% right, not only here but on other forums too. Well done, amandla.
Its kinda fascinating.
ZMANN,
It will all be behind us once Alex helps us win #27 in 09. Im hoping with all this coming out, he will be mitivated to prove to the fans that he didnt need the steroids to perform at a high level. Plus it is an odd year and that means only one thing. MVP.
Speaking of baseball,when do Piichers and catchers report?
I really feel for the kids today. Hopefully, they have good, solid parents to look up to. Bobby Murcer was my first baseball “hero”, and, as it turns out, he was certainly worthy of a young kid’s adulation.
Today, there are few sports figures that merit even a baseball card purchase. Not to mention the dearth of solid citizenry in government, entertainment, business, etc.
I doubt many schools teach ethics these days, but it’s about time to dust off the antiquated topic and help kids understand what it means.
Maybe I’m moving off of the topic somewhat, but it’s sad what’s happening in every sector of society.
Robert said she went to his house in Miami and he wasn’t there.
She is so full of crap. She was at his house. She was at the University of Miami. You blame him for feeling stalked?
There was a report written.
S.o.S.
February 9th, 2009 at 7:15 pm
Gb7,
Did you read my post on the war movie Miracle in St.Annes a couple threads ago?
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No, sorry, I didn’t. i haven’t been arund for most of the day. Could you repost it?
Only one thing: I think ARod is hoping that this interview will make life easier this season and I don’t necessarily believe people will be as kindly toward him as they were toward Andy.
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Yep, I agree. You only need to look at this forum for proof of that.
Thanks Trisha, will check
Here you go Joltin’ Joe. Read for yourself……
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn.....type=story
Selena Roberts and the GDuke lacrosse case.
http://www.uslaw.com/library/C.....item=83364
She sure is a peach.
I haven’t been ***around*** either.
Look Roberts is a total fraud. Everything he has alleged she has an answer to, but there’s truth to every part of it. Nothing was a complete fabrication.
I am now switching the station because I am going to lose my dinner listening to that witch.
Roberts is off the reservation crazy. Look what she did to those Duke kids.
And there was a Roid Culture in baseball and one of its hubs was Texas. Nothing wrong with ARod trying to explain the context without throwing all of his teammates under the witch hunt bus.
trisha -
Do you have a link to that report that was written??
“There are a lot of naive A-Rod apologists here. Why should it be believd that he took steroids for ‘only’ 3 years?
I guess because he’s been so truthful about his steroid usage in the past?
Do people here really think that there aren’t newer steroids available now that aren’t detectable?
There will ALWAYS be chemists and biologists willing to invent a new undetectable steroid because there are millions to be made off of it.
Unless they store blood tests to be retested once a previously undetectable steroid i found out there will always be cheaters.”
Raymag,
When you put it like that, it is impossible for arod to prove that he did not do anything between 2003 and now. So he might as well not even try. You are not only taking the guilty without any proof route but then, you are saying that there is no way arod could ever prove his innocence to you because they are undetectable. i DONT THINK your right at all on this one but you dont need another positive roids test to know arod was juicing his entire career because it should start an epic collaprse around this year if he has been doing roids for 10 plus years. No collapse = he has not been using his entire career.
We arent being naive – we are going through the actual facts that we have on hand rather than the facts that we dont have – roids are actually punishable in baseball now unlike prior to 2003 and alex could actually get seriously fined, suspended and destroyed by the media even worse than this week and he is supposed to be the guy that cares about what everybody thinks (or is that only when it is conducive for the argument against alex). And perhaps, he matured, gained some confidence and realized he didnt need roids to be the best in baseball.
Perhaps, he no longer felt he needed roids to prove he was worth the contract when traded to a team who didnt even sign that contract. Perhaps, he realized the harmful effects of them or perhaps, he saw the torment and downfalls of guys like clemens, bond and mcgwire and realized it was NOT worth the risk on both accounts. I mean there are many reasons to understand why he quit in 2004. nOT THE LEAST of which was getting out of that clubhouse that was seemingly entrenched in roids. At Alex’s young, impressionable age when he first came to the rangers, he may have seen most of the guys on the team doing it, realized it wasnt even against the rules and guidelines of the MLB and thought he would maybe catch up on everybody else”s edge by trying it.
But im sure some of that luster faded when roids was made agaisnt the rules of baseball, he left that clubhouse and realized roids was not as prevalant in yankee stadium, saw the kind of detrimental effect of body and career that roids could have, matured in the last three years and decided it was not for him. He had to have known from his 1996 season that he had the ability to compete against major league pitching without PEDS and even if he didnt, Im sure he assumed he could play reasonably well without roids. That is about five or more reasons why alex may have quite specifically between the 2003 and 2004 seasons none of which are naive in the least and all of which are well reasoned. I figured he could have continued to do roids of course but when exactly did he quit and is it legitimate to think that without any proof outside of the failed test in 2003? Not much.
There’s an incident report from the Miami police for her showing up at the island he lives on. She says she went onto the island and didn’t see his car so she left. No questions asked about the book?
What is Roberts saying?
I’m not surprise that he took steroid like most of the player and I’m glad that he came clean. By the way, this most be the Happiest Day for Peter.
“In other words, you can accept that it was factual, while being disgusted by the methods used to get it.”
Absolutely; I agree with you. What I was questioning was the general attack made by some over the last few days — including prior to the allegations made in tonight’s interview — that struck me as having nothing to do with the substance of the story (“did A-Rod use PEDs?”), and everything to do with simply destroying a messenger who delivered unwelcome news (though that messenger, if Alex is correct, might not be so innocent herself). It’s not that she was being accused outright of lying or being wrong, it’s that her credibility was being pounded for no real reason when the central facts of the original story had already been confirmed.
Based on tonight’s interview, I’m guessing that a big part of the Boras PR strategy is going to be casting Selena Roberts as a villian. Which is savvy, in that it might garner sympathy for A-Rod while distracting from the main point here: He used PEDs. And given that THAT is what all of this is REALLY about, I agree with a poster above who said that, now that we know he juiced, we just need to decide for ourselves whether we’re going to get over it or not. For me, that’s the bottom line.
Selena Roberts is the ugly girl who wanted to date the jock in HS but never could. Now she’s taking revenge on them all.
Im sorry but I like AROD, and Im glad he came clean today. I feel like he has this monkey off his back and I think he will be focused and have a very good year and something special will happen to this team. I will route for AROD in a YANKEE uniform for the next 9 years maybe longer. Hes a “clean” YANKEE and thats all I care about. LETS GO YANKS!!!!!
The mainstream sports press has 24 hours to disown her. The ends to not justify the means.
Clock is ticking, Pete, whatever you think of Alex.
Alex’s place in Miami Beach is on a guarded island.
You can’t get in unless the person you are seeing gives the guard a heads up.
Selena is saying that its the island is “public” and she has a right to go to his house.
The police, according to her, agreed with her and, according to her, let her go through.
I live in a similar development. I don’t know of the cops letting people in, especially reporters, unannounced.
It doesn’t happen in my development at least.
Alex’s island also has several celebrities that live on the island.
JMO but, her explanation sounds fishy to me. It doesn’t jive with the usual security policies in developments down here.
After reading some of the things Roberts had to say about the Duke Lacrosse kids, makes me want to ask her if innocent until proven guilty means anything to her.
And if it is true that she hasn’t appolpgized and/or recanted her articles is bush.
Pete I know this is your blog, but for you to defend her after the Duke case is a poor case of jugdement on your part, IMO.
Verducci just said Roberts reputation was impeccable? Seriously Tom? That’s what you’re going with?
Uh, Verducci just said Selena Roberts has an “impeccable reputation.”
I now have totally lost any respect for Verducci.
Who thinks A-Rod will now hit 85 homeruns this season to help clear his name… cannot wait
“There’s an incident report from the Miami police for her showing up at the island he lives on. She says she went onto the island and didn’t see his car so she left. No questions asked about the book?”
So, there is an incident report?
rodg
so are you saying it’s ok for players to take it even though it is a banned substance and can not be tested?
For one thing people hear the same sentence whatever way they’re predisposed to. For instance, Ham Fighters, above, heard ARod say that when he interviewed with Couric he didn’t know he had taken steroids. I inferred that he had been lying to himself about the nature of the substances that he had taken – that he believed he had passed the steroid survey test, so whatever he was taking couldn’t be that bad.
Admittedly, he is not the smoothest person going. But, people can convince themselves of almost anything, especially after the passage of time.
Rodg, Roberts said a report was written. But she minimized it.
This is gonna help Roberts sell a ton of books in May.
Correction. You can’t get in unless the homeowner gives the guard the name at the gate. That’s how it works at my place and that’s how it works at his place.
Honestly, I’m surprised she got in. Doesn’t seem like proper protocol to me.
“Selena Roberts released a statement saying Alex’s charges were “absurd.” Given that police records can be checked, we’ll see who is telling the truth. Alex claimed she was cited by police and was escorted off the Miami by campus by police. That can all be verified”
So, is she a liar?
Man I can’t wait until the players report and workouts start…The events of the past two weeks has become a real drag……
Honestly Joltin’ Joe, I see very little difference between Coritsone Shots and HGH as far as benefits to athletes. Very little difference. The reason HGH is banned is not because of the potential benefits it gives people but because of the terrible side effects it can have.
J
Correct. Selena Roberts versus Scott Boras. I absolutely love it. Ms. Roberts won’t know what hit her in terms of negative PR on the way to Levinworth for criminal contempt. Poetic, karmic justice for the Duke lacrosse players.
In a way, this will end the steroid mess, since nobody will want to be on the same side of her. ARod’s confession is the beginning of the end of this mess.
We have to decide for ourselves whether to get over it.
You can bribe your way into most places.
My dad lived in a simple gated community in Florida and I had difficulty getting in once. Hmmm….
Karmic Retribution a real pain in the butt, hugh?
rodg
so hgh is not a steroid?
“Honestly, I’m surprised she got in. Doesn’t seem like proper protocol to me.”
Who knows what bullcrap she gave them at the guard gate. She probably flashed her SI credentials and said he was waiting for her.
trisha – Want the truth? Read Canseco’s book. February 9th, 2009 at 7:18 pm
If you want to vomit turn on MLB TV and watch Verducci trying to get Tom Hicks to say they really got porked by
Alex.
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Get out. He wreaks of a lil contributory negligence. Seems to me they were “porked” by a lot of players. I hope someone asked them why they seemed to have so many roid users.
Talk about playing victim.
SJ44-
So how did she get on the island, if there is a sentry. I doubt she put on a frog suit and swam he surround moat.
Don’t know if his house has a garage or gates or a buzzer but I would at least ring that or knock on the door to see if he was home instead of not see a car and leave.
HGH is not a steriod — technically.
yea six years is a long time pete. So why is everyone acting like arod did this yesterday? he did it at a time when most of baseball was doing it and now, he is forced to be the scapegoat for the poor performance of selig and the like.
Pete, why are you constantly defending roberts? She sounds like an awful person who really has it out for alex. What did he ever do to her? You constantly make her out to be just some reported – she is clearly out to get alex with the ability to somehow find alex’s name on a list of 104 roids users without getting any of the other names and then, she is writing a book about what a horrible person he is. She expect alex to have a civil conversation with her about the facts in this article before she published it when she is stalking him, making comments about his sexuality and writing an entire book which is basically a long character assassination… How would you respond to someone who was doing that tio you? I would probably tell them to go jummp off a bridge. He should really find a way to sue roberts if she has done anything illegal and I certainly would not put it past her. With all of the shady facts regarding how she obtained this info along with her determination to destroy arods reputation, I am sure she did something that would be frowned upon by the general public at the very least …
Uh, no you can’t “bribe” your way in.
My place has tight security. His is even tighter.
She may have gotten in but, if she did, somebody screwed up.
You can’t get into these developments unless the homeowner ok’s it. That’s how it works.
If not, then ANYBODY could get in.
That’s the entire point of security. To not let ANYBODY in.
arod would have done well to not mention selena roberts. she just doesn’t matter. he was being loose with his description of her stalking him at his home. she said he she only went to outside his gated community. he called that threatening his girls upstairs in their bedrooms. maybe that’s how it felt to him.
i know what he meant, but he wasn’t articulate enough in describing what selena roberts was doing. this is getting to the question of when does a reporter become cross over to being a paparazzi.
i have to laugh at verducci saying alex’s charges are ridiculous because she has an impeccable reputation. verducci just lost some points with me because after her being so wrong in the duke case she does have credibility problems.
the cheaters deserve to be called out and to have their reps tainted… But enough of this hollier-than-thou stuff… If a player in 1955 had a carrot dangled in front of him that promised 20 million bucks a year… I betcha more players would have looked for some edge.
Ortiz, Youkilis, Jeter… all the rest from this modern era… who walk to the plate looking like a medieval knight preparing for a joust… All that “equipment” is performance-enhancing…
1- It helps them psychologically… allowing them to hug the inside w/out fear.
2- Even if they get hit, it protects them from injury… So there’s no penalty for hoovering over the plate.
Look, Pitchers aren’t even allowed to buzz the head anymore. Heck, Selig would have probably banned Bob Gibson.
The game is always evolving… changing… When Babe Ruth hit a ball that bounced over the wall it was ruled a HR… When Mantle roamed CF, it was 480 and their were monuments on the field.
Catfish Hunter used to file the ball, 1920 pitchers his the spitball…
These purists sound like our grandfathers, who claimed to walk to school uphill both ways!
No era is the same… Hitters didn’t have to face specialists in the ’30s… In the 40′s they didn’t have expansion… Blacks weren’t allowed… The mound was higher… no night games… No media scrutiny.
Point is… People always looked for an edge, and it’s hard to compare eras b/c the game is always changing. Balls are juiced, and all that jazz!
AND… we’ll never know all the names of those busted… Even if you weren’t caught, still doesn’t mean you weren’t guilty.
Who really cares?
You cannot watch a Chargers game, or Patriot games, where they don’t praise Shawn Merriman or Rodney Harrison. Roids helps you a lot more in the NFL… Not like Andy Pettitte could hit 20 HRs b/c he takes HGH (or throw 110 mph)…
I have no respect for Verducci or any other national sports reporter for that matter.
Doesn’t sound right to me either, SJ.
My in-laws live in a gated community in NJ. There are no celebrities there that I know of. And security is VERY strict there. I’d imagine it would only be stricter on an island where celebrities live for the very reason of being away from easy access by the press and regular people.
Doesn’t make sense.
Same here. My brother is in a gated community in Boca. If you are not on the list, you don’t get in.
“Uh, no you can’t “bribe” your way in.
My place has tight security. His is even tighter.”
sj-
it’s funny how people don’t know how gated communities work down in florida. you don’t just knock on someone’s door. if you get that far likely you’ve broken some law.
According to Roberts, the guard called the police and the police came to the house.
Now, this is where it gets murky to me.
She identified herself as a reporter from SI doing a story on Arod.
I doubt seriously she identified herself as a “reporter from SI doing a story on how Arod tested positive for steroids”.
If she did, I doubt the police let her in.
Perhaps, the police thought Arod was expecting her. I don’t know.
I just know, based on where I live and where he lives, security is tight.
For example, a couple of other celebrities live on the same island as Arod.
If say, the National Enquirer showed up, I doubt the police let them in.
She had no business being there. Certainly no business going to his house.
I have a feeling her getting access to the house was a mistake made by the MBPD.
“Admittedly, he is not the smoothest person going. But, people can convince themselves of almost anything, especially after the passage of time.”
Yep Doreen, when you’re lying you don’t lie to anyone like you lie to yourself.
matthew fraggs
i like your take on it. Jim Kaat pretty much said the same thing on mlbtv.
And name me a single player that apologized for steroid use while they were still actively playing baseball professionally without first being confronted about it???? No one. Yea its been six years but since when does that matter. Andy pettitte the most honest, god fearing man on the yanks supposedly who was forgiven in literally ten minutes by most of the fans and media did not admit to doing anything wrong until his back was up against a wall and neither did Giambi. They all eventually admitted it or some form of it but none of them do a thing until they had to. Pllleeasse dont say its been six years so arod should have let us know by now. No one in their right mind would do that. You want to blame someone for waiting six years to find out about arod you should blame your fellow brethren the media. They did nothing to uncover this story allowing players to think it was completely acceptable as long as it was on the dl and then, only a decade or more later decided to turn that compliance into rage and wrath for all of those horrible drug attics. How dare they taint the sport? Meanwhile, the media along with good old bud selig forgot to tell them what they were doing was sooo wrong. Bud even forgot to make a rule stating it was wrong. Great job guys – so who gets the blame for waiting a decade or more before these players come out? I say the media and the baseball FO. Thats who is to blame
Randy,
If you, GB and Pat M aren’t on the list, you can’t get into my place to play golf.
Now, don’t go getting Selena Roberts to try and break my security.
I don’t feel like moving! lol
i have a question. does selena roberts have easy access to the yankee clubhouse? i would think she does, but that’s got to be annoying for arod.
That’s an interesting question, RandyI.
Does the team grant access or does MLB?
i like how jeter and posada have supported arod. this whole fiasco may backfire for yankee haters.
if the yankees circle the wagons it just might bring the team together instead of the opposite.
Arod isn’t going to talk about what he took, where he got it, or who he got it from. He’s not going to throw other people under the bus, nor get any other players, trainers, FO people, agents, unions heads, etc. in trouble. Is he supposed to sit there and say something like “player Johnny Bob hooked me up with his old trainer from Cleveland, who called his buddy doctor in Balitimore, and we sauced up”. He’s not going to do that. So while some of his answers were a little shady, you have to consider what he can, and really can’t answer. Stuff about himself, sure. Stuff that might get other people in trouble, maybe not.
“No, sorry, I didn’t. i haven’t been arund for most of the day. Could you repost it?”
GB7,
Dont worry about the miss spelling bro. You still arent as bad as i am. Im sure if we find out the point of origin of “arund” it will mean exactly what you wanted it to.
Anyways, I saw the Spike Lee movie Miracle at st. Annes. The first clip shows the guy watching a black and white John Wayne war movie where there is a soldier dead hanging. I thought maybe that was one of those favorite soldier movies that you mentioned last week. It didnt show much of the Wayne movie but i thought that hanging was pretty original and you might be able to remember the scene.
Good Spike flick BTW.
I’m still confused why everyone is going off on Roberts. She broke one of the biggest sports story of the decade, and was 100% correct.
Just yesterday, half the people on here were saying she was dead wrong that ARod did ‘roids in 2003. The next day he admits to 2003, 2002, and 2001.
No matter what she did, or how she did it, or what her motive was, she was 100% right with her facts, and the entire story.
Sounds like people are just bitter that ARod was outed, and now they want to to shoot the messenger.
rodg12
February 9th, 2009 at 7:23 pm
Didn’t answer the question. Therefore I’m to assume your another simpleton who the media has brainwashed into thinking completely wrongs things about HGH. Good to know
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so is it a steroid or not? i ask again.
In parts of Florida’s high rent areas, you won’t see a car in the driveway, and if it’s like Cape Coral, Florida 5 years ago, you wouldn’t espeially see a truck or an RV. Trying to break into the house, I doubt, but, knocking on the door or ringing the bell and when it opens, putting your foot in to block the door or push your through is not beyond the realm of probability.
impeccable personality? What is verducci smoking? Does he even know who she is? I would assume no.
SJ44, What about if I slipped the gate guard a couple of Benji’s ???
randy
watch out for the boys in 09. mark my words, they will come out smokin and angry. On a mission.
Posada said something too? I must have missed that. I thought what Jeter said was good, though.
The only way the team is going to succeed is if they have each others back. Support the person, not their actions.
My private island is so much harder to get into than ARod’s. Granted he has the sharks, ninja army, and laser beams, but I added the false volcanic lake upgrade.
Tom Verducii is supporting a co-worker. Much like Jeter and Posada are supporting Alex. It’s the name of the game.
S.o.S.-
That scene is from “the longest day”
I DON’T CARE ANYMORE. THEY ALL DID IT. THEY ALL DIDN’T DO IT. IT’S BEYOND BORING NOW. JUST WANNA WATCH THE GAMES. I COULD CARE LESS ABOUT RECORDS.
Just yesterday, half the people on here were saying she was dead wrong that ARod did ‘roids in 2003.
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Where? Show me one credible, known person (and no you can’t use trolls to back your case up) said that.
“Sounds like people are just bitter that ARod was outed, and now they want to to shoot the messenger.”
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Ahh, the “shoot the messenger” stance. It’s almost predictable now.
“if you, GB and Pat M aren’t on the list, you can’t get into my place to play golf.”
sj-
gb 7 is a commando. he’s sent me and pat m a training regimen to get ready for our assault. we know how much fun it would be for you if we surprised you. having our names on a list at the gate is too easy and just not much fun.
the only training thing i’m suspicious of is gb7 having me hold my breath until i faint.
Verducci has come off being very fishy. From the Torre stuff to this. Saying that Roberts has a very good report as a writer. Is he writting the book with her?!! Like he was writting the book “with” Torre?!! I hope he isn’t allowed near the Yankee club house anymore.
ARod did a great job with the interview. He sounded very nervous, as anyone would be in his position.
While I’m not advocating steroids use, I think a lot of people are being hypocritical about this. From the owners who loved the attendance spikes from the HR increase, to the writers that didn’t want to lose insider status with the players (credit to a thread this morning on this idea), to the fans. Anyone that watched the McGwire/Sosa homerun race knew that they were juicing, yet it stayed quiet and people turned a blind eye because it was exciting and it saved baseball (probably more so than Cal’s streak).
I feel badly for ARod. It seems like his biggest downfall was wanting everyone to like him and it caused him to shoot himself in his foot. He didn’t engage in drunken brawls, spit on fans, carry around guns, or completely bash his team in public.
And it makes sense what he says about going to Texas and turning to PEDs in order to validate his contract (the Texas heat thing is interesting, and I can’t comment one way or the other). Yes, it was wrong, and I would have preferred if he didn’t use them. But it was the culture of baseball. It was all over baseball, and there was no punishment for it. I can’t say that I wouldn’t have tried steroids in his position.
Yes, his average numbers from 2001-2003 were better than the rest of his career, but Texas is also a hitters dream. He was incredible in Seattle, and he has been great as a Yankee. 2007 was an historic season. He also hasn’t failed a test since that confidential 2003 test.
ARod has been the best overall baseball player since he came up and my opinion of his talents on the field hasn’t changed much just as my opinion on The Beatles’ ability to make music hasn’t changed when I learned that they used drugs in the creative process.
Finally, I also think that anyone who has ever used adderall or a similar substance (without a legitimate, honest prescription) in college/grad school in order to help study for a test is in no position to comment on steroids use in baseball.
“Hello, SJ44 this is security. Um, there are 3 men outside the gate here. 2 have golf clubs and the other is carrying a 1950′s baseball bat. One of the men with the golf clubs is wearing shin guards and a catchers mask. Should we arrest them?”
S.o.S.
February 9th, 2009 at 7:52 pm
“No, sorry, I didn’t. i haven’t been arund for most of the day. Could you repost it?”
GB7,
Dont worry about the miss spelling bro. You still arent as bad as i am. Im sure if we find out the point of origin of “arund” it will mean exactly what you wanted it to.
Anyways, I saw the Spike Lee movie Miracle at st. Annes. The first clip shows the guy watching a black and white John Wayne war movie where there is a soldier dead hanging. I thought maybe that was one of those favorite soldier movies that you mentioned last week. It didnt show much of the Wayne movie but i thought that hanging was pretty original and you might be able to remember the scene.
Good Spike flick BTW.
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SoS, that movie sounds like “Back To Bataan. The school proncipal was hung from the flagpole in front of his students by the Japanese Commander.
I’m not a Spike Lee fan, so, if I watch it, it will be on HBO for free or a movie channel.
johnblacksox,
Its not even about the story – she was fine with the story. She didnt try to publish something that was not true although you probably could not do that at SI. But there are two reasons ppl dont like this woman:
1. She is writing a book about the demise of arod and this was before this story came out which makes her seem obsessed with destroying his reputation
2. There were 103 names on that list and there were all supposed to be anonymous. No one knows how but somehow she got arods name, no others names, no list and she has four anonymous sources to back it up. There are multiple reasons why this is so frustrating to people. Its ironic that arods name was protected by anonymity that privacy was breached and somehow his accusers were all of a sudden protected by anonymity. So not only was his rights breached but he doesnt even know who his accuser is. Also, where does anyone hear those other 100 names. It almost seems like roberts went out of her way to make sure she only got arods name so that the fire can fall squarely on his shoulders.
And this more recent stuff about her question arods sexuality in the book and stalking him in real life seems like she is somewhat of a maniac. Finally, she really went hard after the duke lacrosse team in the paper by basically accusing them in the news without any facts to support her opinions. That is also a bit disconcerting considering the type of article she wrote about arod.
Rany,
Didnt respond earlier to your post. Pretty cool catchers trick. I wonder if it would have helped me get a larger trophy in little league? Lost in 2 championship games, maybe pissing off their best hitters could have changed those results.
David,
I have read alot of your posts today and agree with them. I compare it to cheating on your wife. Who goes to their wife and says honey i cheated on you 6 years ago? Now if the wife finds out then you show your cards.
BTW, Iv never cheated on my wife.
Phil Parcells
February 9th, 2009 at 7:58 pm
S.o.S.-
That scene is from “the longest day”
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If the Lee movie was in WWII, then it wasn’t “The Longest Day”. That movie wasn’t made until 1961.
“That scene is from “the longest day” ”
Thanks Phil. Did you watch that movie GB? Is it one on the top of your list? Im not a Spike Lee fan but this was pretty good. It shouldnt be much longer till it hits dvd/premium channels.
Hey guys, I rather do the Benji Franklins, hell of a lot easier on my knees…Besides I’m his partner
tom-
good point. the shin guards would be too much and would arouse suspicion.
GB,
The spike lee movie was in wwII. But the man was watching a movie in the present time and then they reflected back to the war. ala Saving Private Ryan.
randy l
February 9th, 2009 at 8:00 pm
“if you, GB and Pat M aren’t on the list, you can’t get into my place to play golf.”
sj-
gb 7 is a commando. he’s sent me and pat m a training regimen to get ready for our assault. we know how much fun it would be for you if we surprised you. having our names on a list at the gate is too easy and just not much fun.
the only training thing i’m suspicious of is gb7 having me hold my breath until i faint.
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Randy, you have no fear from me. You know that I’d swim the deepest ocean (or walk through the swallowest mud puddle, which ever is easier), climb the highest mountain (walk over a pebble) or slay the meanest dragon (swat the nearly dead fly). To quote a line from a chik flik (Stel Magnolias), “You know that I like you more than my luggage.” (The movie said “love” and not “like”, but, I ain’t telling no guy that I love him.
S.o.S.
February 9th, 2009 at 8:11 pm
“That scene is from “the longest day” ”
Thanks Phil. Did you watch that movie GB? Is it one on the top of your list? Im not a Spike Lee fan but this was pretty good. It shouldnt be much longer till it hits dvd/premium channels.
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OK, I didn’t know it was a flashback movie. Loved “The Longest Day”, though and “Back To Bataan” was pretty good, to.
pat m-
so gb7 hasn’t sent you an email telling you to hold your breath for ten minutes at a time ?
i was thinking before that dressing you up to look like selena roberts and telling the guard that we were there to interview sj44, the famous lohud blogger, would work, but now that this whole arod thing has blown up with her being a stalker, that’s just not going to work.
i gotta admit i kinda like the benjamins route myself.
Just looked it up GB. Phil was on the money. It was the longest day. Need to see if i can find it in blockbuster for a dollar.
Enough is enough. I love A-Rod and will continue to support him. He is a great ball player.
I don’t consider him a cheater or a fraud. He’s an athlete, and he took performance enhancing drugs. Think about those words. Performance enhancing. Of course he would take drugs to enhance his performance. Who wouldn’t? They aren’t cheating drugs. They are performance enhancing.
Players practice batting, field and throwing to enhance their performance. They lift weights to enhance their performance. They do cardio programs to enhance their performance. They eat healthy to enhance their performance. Guess what, it is normal to want to enhance your performance!
Crack open a history book and look at the past players. Look at why a lot of the rules are in place. A lot are in place to keep players from getting an edge. That means players have ALWAYS looked for ways to get an edge on their opponents. That is completely normal. Even look at past Yankees players, and we laugh now about situations like corked bats, fingernail files, sandpaper, etc.
Get off your high horses and move on. Most of you are probably too stupid to even realize what PEDs do. They don’t just magically make muscles appear on your body. They don’t give you hand eye coordination to hit the ball. It still requires a lot of work to get in excellent shape.
Should we go after people that take Centrum vitamins? What about common medicines? If a player has a tummy ache and takes Tums before the game, guess what those just enhanced his performance.
He lied about being caught in a stupid scandal a few years ago? Really? No way. I’ve never heard once of a single person on Earth denying that they did something when confronted. Of course he lied. Anybody would. Everybody does. Get over it people. He’s human.
Now lets drop this and look forward to this year’s WS!
I was a Journalism major way back when. I didn’t end up the field, but I certainly understand the ethics, standards, etc.
When Journalists become part of the story, like Verducci and Roberts have lately, it’s usually not a good thing.
Try to discredit her as much as you want, but she was right. Keep your blinders on. Alex is a head-case, prima donna, attention whore created by Boras ala the movie Weird Science except inspead of a bra he had a bb glove on his head. Call it like it is. If he was a Sox (which he very nearly was save for the union) y’all would be tearing him apart.
Why don’t some of you go and start your own blog if Pete’s is so beneath you?
This whole thing is giving me a headache. I really don’t care about any of it. Steroid use was so rampant during the 80′s and 90′s that it just doesn’t matter. Now we are picking apart his interview for crying out loud. Why can’t people just understand that steroid use was rampant during this period instead of focusing on a handful of high profile players. It happened, we know it happened and it is in the past. Now if he tested positive since the testing and penalties were put in place, then we would have a story. Knowing that he did it in the past just makes him one of many.
Try to discredit her as much as you want, but she was right. Keep your blinders on. Alex is a head-case, prima donna, attention whore created by Boras ala the movie Weird Science except inspead of a bra he had a bb glove on his head. Call it like it is. If he was a Sox (which he very nearly was save for the union) y’all would be tearing him apart.
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I really wish there was a rolls eyes icon here.
Hmmm…rolling eyes at the truth. Interesting response. Although you’re right. ARod has made a mockery of it.
wayne voice sound deeper in dis song