Girardi: Now is a time to shine
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Just spent a few minutes on the phone with Joe Girardi, who was nice enough to return my call. He will get to camp tomorrow and doesn’t expect the A-Rod situation to cause too much of a ruckus. At least not more than the team can handle.
He compared it Andy Pettitte’s admission of drug use last spring.
“It will be on a larger scale because of who Alex is. The media buzz will be there for a few days,” Girardi said. “But we have to support each other and play the games and do our jobs. We’re going to get through this. I think this is a chance for us to shine, both Alex individually and us as a team.”
Girardi has spoken with Rodriguez several times in recent days and found him to be “in a good place.” He hopes that the admission of guilt helps him as a player.
“Anything you’re through something in your personal life or you have something on your chest, it impacts how you play,” he said. “If anything, maybe this helps him. He’s been tested regularly since 2004 and he’ll be tested for the WBC. He’s a great player regardless and that’s something I want to say when we talk again.”
Check out the paper tomorrow for more from Girardi. He seems comfortable that the Yankees will find their way through this mess in due time.
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Good to hear Joe’ getting off on the right foot.
LoHud wise at least.
Thanks for the info GB. I’m just a northeast kid looking to move South and I really don’t like Florida. (No offense Floridians!) I have heard that the legal community in Austin is hard to get into if you’re an out of stater.
“… the media buzz will be there for a few days…” Really joe? I would imagine Alex and the rest of the Yankee organization is going to get questions about this for a very very long time.
Hope so, Pete.
Give Joe a mulligan for his first mess up this season because he returned your call tonight
I like Girardi, but really, what else could he say? He has to find a way to get the team through yet another unwanted distraction. We wish him luck.
I heard Joe on with Francesca today and he sounded good – It was nice to hear him again – on Saturday, I felt like I was punched in the gut, that I’d never be able to work up any enthusiasm for the upcoming season. Now? I’m itching for some baseball.
I’m thrilled to hear that Wang is doing well and that Phil is in Tampa. He’s a hard worker and he’s competitive; I strongly feel that he will have a very good year in AAA and will be ready to take a spot in our rotation next year. I’m hesitant to go gaga over Melancon because he hasn’t pitched up here – he’s going to have his struggles – but from everything I’ve read about him, the kid is solid as a rock. I can’t wait until CC and AJ report – man, I wish I was in Tampa now………
Good news about Congress not calling Alex to testify – they have MUCH bigger fish to fry.
Rob
just curious what type of law will you practice?
Let’s see how Girardi does this year with a legit starting staff, a deep lineup, and bullpen depth.
Pete? While he will likely test negative for the WBC, does this not impact on his position with the Dominican team?
Surely you’d think they would want to avoid that controversy.
Especially since the WBC is still relatively new, and Arod has hit the news all over the world — even in countries that have no idea about baseball.
http://blogs.trb.com/sports/baseball/blog/
Why must Jeter come under constant criticism? I thought he did a terrible job in 2006, but for pete’s sake, he’s already come out with at least 2 comments in support of A-Rod. The media ALWAYS has to find something to piss about. I really hate them.
I also agree with SJ44 about Selena Roberts’ book. I think there is a very real chance that the public (not those who drool over the National Enquirer) will be turned off. Everyone has a private life that they choose to keep private – I think they may even empathize with A-Rod because no one should have their life “outed” like that. It’s almost like she’s rooting for him to collapse – I’d like to think that people will see right through her. I believe A-Rod will certainly have the support he needs in the clubhouse.
Imagine if Teix also is one of the players who failed the test????
Tarheel — I’m trying to practice criminal law on the prosecutorial side. I’ve always felt like it was something of a calling for me.
Betsy — I wish I was down there too. If we remember Phil was at camp early last year too. Hopefully the freak injuries are behind him and he is knocking on the door by May or June.
Could Arod have started something bigger than this? Could we see someone like Mcguire come out and admit using roids now that the biggest name in baseball has been caught and his HOF votes havnt been that enticing? Maybe if enough players come out than we can judge that era seperately and in turn have some of the superstars get voted into the HOF. Because they would have excelled in the roid era.
Arod will be fine with the DR team. According to Impacto Deportivo, he’s been completely cleared.
Rob, the legal field has always been a tough field around Austin. Insurance companies and medical fields are a reason, I suppose,but, mainly as the state capital, it certainly helps to know people. I’d start by calling and mailing or emailing your resume`. It’s relly a beautiful place to live. If you have the money to do it, Westlake, Round Rock are great places to live, but the real place is Lake Austin. It’s not far away to live, but, it’s a long drive because you have around the lake. They used to have a ferry that went across the lake, but, that stopped. Its also a great place to raise kids.
Tarheelyank
February 10th, 2009 at 8:26 pm
“I certanly won’t gloat about the players on the list-even if there are Sox players on it. What’s the point?”
“Tom can we gloat a little if it’s Schilling?”
I don’t intend to defend Schilling because I will admit he has a big mouth but I would be surprised if he is on the list, especially since he is arguing on his blog and in interviews that the entire list should be made public.
Build up your weaknesses until they become your strong points.
GreenBeret7
February 10th, 2009 at 8:36 pm
listening to the 6 tenets of life from Satchel Paige on Baseball: Inning 5, reminds me of one of Stengels better quotes:
“Being with a woman all night never hurt no professional baseball player. It’s staying up all night looking for a woman that does him in.”
http://www.brainyquote.com/quo.....engel.html
Watching “Baseball” on MLB. They’re showing the Negro League and how the pitchers used to work the ball over, anything for an edge.
ray,
Could Shilling be bluffing,knowing it more than likely will not happen. Sort of like Sheffield said they could test me anytime. Knowing the union wouldnt allow that.
Schilling would have been savvy enough as a veteran of the old roidy Phillies, to be clean for the 2003 testing, though he might have been done with whatever it seems he might have been doing by then.
I’m thinking Torre’s book will take the hoopla out of Roberts book. Bad timing – if ya think about it.
S.O.S
I think Schilling is capable of bluffing, but I’m not sure in this case.
Arod’s name got leaked and whether it is right or wrong, I really believe that eventually the other names will come out and then Schilling would really look silly. Ok..ok…I know…it wouldn’t be the first time…point well made.
“The NFL and MLB have both had players busted for performance-enhancing drugs. But the public outrage has always been much worse for baseball.
Why has the sporting public given pro football what amounts to a free pass on performance-enhancing drugs? I’ve listed some of my theories and I’d love to hear what you think is behind the disparate amount of criticism the two sports get.”
http://www.fannation.com/si_bl.....ref=fromSI
How about Nefi Perez. He failed twice…
I’m watching Ken Burns’ Baseball on MLB-TV and it’s covering a bit of the Negro Leagues in this “inning.” One thing that has struck me: In photographs and film of the time, when they show the stands at white games, they are filled almost entirely with white men. At the negro league games, the stands show there are a lot of women attending the game.
I have Poster’s remorse- don’t read that article, it’s one of the stupidest things I have ever read.
ray,
One more thing bro. Shillings hero was Clemens hmmm…
So A-rod was probably right on Orza saying he may or may not have failed a test…
http://oversight.house.gov/doc.....114405.pdf
page 6 of 10
Two important points need to be made about these conversations. First, players
were not told that they had tested positive in 2003; they were told that they were named
on a list o f players whose records the government was targeting. They also were told
that, as reported in the press, the government had seized testing records in April, that in
May the government had issued a grand jury subpoena with a list o f player names
attached, and that their name was included. The players were not told, however, what
their 2003 test results were. Indeed, the MLBP A attorneys who spoke to the players had
not seen the 2003 test results.
I think us Yankee fans will have the last laugh. It may not be next week or next month, but it will happen.
A-Rod’s issue will be past tense and then all of a sudden everyone else will have to deal with players on their teams.
Let’s see how holier than thou those fans of other teams are and how crazy the media goes after them.
I just can’t wait for this season to start.
And I think Girardi is lying – again. He does *not* think this is a time to shine. He’ll be exposed…eventually.
Changing the subject.
Does anyone else think that The Office is the funniest freekin show ever on t.v.?
Doreen
February 10th, 2009 at 9:15 pm
I’m watching Ken Burns’ Baseball on MLB-TV and it’s covering a bit of the Negro Leagues in this “inning.” One thing that has struck me: In photographs and film of the time, when they show the stands at white games, they are filled almost entirely with white men. At the negro league games, the stands show there are a lot of women attending the game.
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“Polite society” would never accept a white woman to go watch black men play ball, exvn with their escorts.
“And I think Girardi is lying – again. He does not think this is a time to shine. He’ll be exposed…eventually.”
He said “I think”
Nick,
He did look a little Orange.
i heard him on the radio today. i like the guy, but all these guys r lying as to the extent of the problem. nobody saw nothin…. i bet when the smoke clears, > 50% of these knuckleheads juiced.
so let’s get off arod’s butt and move forward, clean.
Correction: ***even*** with their escorts
S.o.S.: I think it might be, but with just two 6 episode seasons and a special, it’s hard to say.
Watching the Ken Burns documentary shows how New York Central baseball was from the `20’s till the time the Giants and Dodgers moved away.
On jan 15th, of 2008 Bug Selig testified in front of the
THE HOUSE COMMITTEE ON OVERSIGHT AND GOVERNMENT REFORM
” As a result of all of this, our positive tests have declined significantly from 96 in the 2003 survey test to just two steroid positives in 2006 and three in 2007.”
I know it’s a minor detail but how did it go from 96 to 104 since Jan of 2008? It’s on page 2 if anybody is interested.
http://oversight.house.gov/doc.....114736.pdf
The Yanks should hire Derek Jeter’s Public Relations Advisor to mentor every incoming player in the Yankee system on how to conduct yourself as a Major League adult and handle the media circus.
DJ might not be the best interview but he’s the winningest player of his generation…lives a large life…keeps his personal life private and out of the media circus. Jeter plays by the rules…represents the team and above all keeps it cool.
Selig lied to congress!
Nick,
Dwight makes me laugh just looking at him. He should come out with a movie that hes the lead actor. The only other person that does that is Will Farrel. I laugh at their reaction and it doesnt even matter what comes out of their mouths.
Dwight?
Well he also said this
“Just last week, I met with a group of 12 certified athletic trainers from Major League Clubs who assured me that we have changed the culture in Clubhouses regarding steroid use.”
Which would substantiate Arod talking about the culture and the “loosey goosey” stuff.
The main guy behind the website fire joe morgan was Mose Schrute.
Sos You should get your hands on the British version.
I love the American one – but the British one is really good too and it came first.
Dwight’s Counter-part was even a bigger dork.
Can’t wait ’til they all go to a SWB Yanks game on the American one.
The dude with glasses thats the bosses pet. The one that is the g.i. Joe of the office.
U.E.,
Is it also called The Office?
MLB traderumors with biased added comments!
Abreu close to signing with Angels-good cheap deal for a DH.
Manny might be close to a deal with Dodgers-want to sign as early as possible because afraid he might be on the list of 103???
Glavine meeting with the Braves tomorrow- want to fit him in plus an OF’er in the 7M left to allot. Nady?? Nady for Martin Prado anyone?
I get the distinct impression that no one on the yankees – be it players, coaches or the FO is surprised by anything that goes down with arod anymore. I dont think they knew he did roids but I also dont think any of them are shocked by it. Arod was on texas and did always strive to be the best at everything – he fits the perfect profile all of a sudden except that he was actually amazing without the roids and just hit more homers with it. I also dont think his numbers are all that skewed – if you compared his years with the rangers to his years with the yankees and then, factor in the change in ballpark, I bet the averages come out very even if not favoring his years on the yanks. I think someone should try to do that instead of comparing his years out of texas to his years in texas and not taking the park into considerations. One, righties hit more homers in arlington whether they are on roids or not – its just the way the two parks are built. Two, I dont think seattle numbers has to be included in this debate – I mean he was in his early 20s then. He had not even hit his prime at that age.
S.o.S.: it was the original BBC version of The Office to which I referred.
Good post from Chad Jennings talking with Yankees vice president of baseball operations Mark Newman
http://community.thetimes-trib.....thers.aspx
I really like girardi and i think if the yanks give him time he will be an outstanding coach. He may not be GREAT with the media yet but that should come with practice and as far as his in game skills and giving off the appearance that he is there for his players when they really need him, I think he has done extremely well so far.
On another note, i HAVE no fear that the yankees as a team will get past this but i do fear that the media will drag this on FOREVR. I listed to 880 for about 3 hours today and I would say outside of the 5 minutes they spent on college basketball because they had a guest on, the other 3 plus hours were entirely consumed with arod – the host and the callers. I think at one point they talked about it for a good hour straight without pause. I mean how much could there possibly be to say? And the outrage is so much that it seems almost fake – like people feel like they HAVE to act outraged because thats how they think they should feel. Its getting beyond ridiculous – OK, so because alex did roids that could mean anyone could have. I have heard that line about 50 times in two days. Didnt we know that when canseco said that over 50 percent of the players were on roids? What about that list of over 100 players that tested positive? That doesnt speak to the extent of this problem?
The point is, alex is not the problem although people want to think he caused this mess and should be crucified for it. Alex is merely the scapegoat for over 2 decades of rampant use by thousands of players in which both the players union and the MLB completely overlooked it because profits were rolling in. The media was either too stupid to notice or too cowardly to be the first one to step forward with something. Either way, they dont look too good either. So the fact that all of these people and hosts could say how could arod do this I say GIVE ME A BREAK. You want to blame someone? Blame the union, the MLB, thousands of players and the media over the course of 20 plus years. This is far, far bigger than arod and I think the overblown outrage reflects the fact that people would rather use arod as a scapegoat than accept the real fact that what happened happened and nothing will ever change that. No matter how many players lives are destroyed. If anything, selig should be fired or resign – the idea that he is set to make 18 mil next year while arod sits in the public doghouse is sickening considering selig is muuuuuch more to blame than arod. People need to wisen up or maybe I should just turn off the radio.
Not to go back to an old topic but did anyone see MLB Hot Stove tonight Frank Mccourt says that Joe Torre is not legally allowed to right a book about the Dodgers as there is a non-disclosure in his contract. He says they have it with all of their employees (obviously not players as it would not be allowed under the CBA).
Funny how Torre would not sign the same clause when he was wih the Yankees but had no problem signing it with the Dodgers.
Abreu is an Angel for 1 year and 5 million bucks.
wow, they got a good player for a cheap price.
dave
I agree with your point, but where was this during the Petite debate? How many times did you call Petite a cheat and worse for HGH?
Is Abreu much better the Anderson? I guess the Angels think so.
Sorry pete, I know I am using up the internet here but i just want to say something else real quick about Selena Roberts. I think it is clear arod made some false acquisitions about her and I believed him immediately because I already had a low opinion of the woman and thought she sounded like the type to sink to low levels to get a story. She was at his house and the gym but it doesnt sound like she was harassing him or getting arrested in the process. Either way, its understandable for arod to feel angry and want to lash out at selena because she is clearly trying to destroy his reputation but saying that on tv was not the right thing to do.
What i really dont like thought about her is she starts saying in her interview how she was not out to “get” alex and that she doesnt want to hurt anyone coming off like some sort of innocent writer in all this. i KNOW it is her job to dig up stories but it seems impossible to believe that selena did not want to hurt alex or his reputation especially considering the title and synopsis of her upcoming book. She seems vicious in print but an innocent in an interview – that is not the way the world works.
Just because it is her job doesnt mean she was forced to push this thing to the edge with the book and all and it definitely comes across like she has a personal vendetta. Further, I dont buy into the fact that she didnt want any of the other names on that list because she was trying to focus on arod for a profile.
What she didnt have the time to out the 100 plus other players? If she could only get one name off the list, I would understand but to say she was really trying to just focus on arod and thats why she passed up on another 100 roid users just sounds like a lie. The real reason seems clear – She wanted the rage focused on one person and she wanted that one person to be arod because she obviously does not like him for some reason or another. I think the news reporters are the ones that do their job objectively and she clearly does not fall in that crowd.
Tarheel,
Its funny you say that because there is a big reason and the reason is pretty simple. Pettitte pretty much did the exact same thing after he had his back up against the wall. He simply apologized and it seems as though most everybody put it behind them. There was no public outrage and 24.7 media buzz about it. There was few yankee fans that declared they will come to the stadium to boo pettitte or that they can no longer be a yankee fan. There was no media saying that pettitte destroyed the game of baseball or that he will be the face of the steroid era. And even though pettitte said he took the hgh for an injury there was no public outcry following his apology trying to dismantle it. Yankee fans forgave him very quickly and no one else really seems to notice or care.
With arod, it is the exact other end of the spectrum. Even though arod also apologized and did not even give any excuses like “I took it for an injury” and actually used the words banned substance unlike most everyone else, people are still hating on him 24/7. People are acting like arod’s use resulted in a series of cataclysmic events that brought baseball to its knees. I have heard some imply that this entire thing is his fault.
Do I think arod is a cheater? I do think he is a cheater of course. And at first, I was pissed. He disappointed me and I my first thought as any good yankee fan might think was how will this impact the season? I thought if arod resulted in a poor yankees season, I would not like him anymore as he caused a distraction that impacted the teams final result in a negative way. But then, I spent threee days think and realized that this was six years ago and he has done nothing but make the yankees better. And i see the reactions of pete who has taken every chance he could get to jab arod and I look at all the other media who are acting like arod is death and I realized that this is ridiculous. The reaction is far too overblown. So while andy’s was far too little of a reaction for my taste and i FELT like people didnt really care enough about it arods situation is the exact opposite so I am on the other side of the fence with this one. I dont know if that makes a heck of a lot of sense to you but that is how i feel.
I heard Serena Roberts interview with Gotlieb today.
Everything she said sounded kosher and reasonable.
She flew down to Miami Wednesday night.
On Thursday morning she drove out to the island, the guard was trying to get hold of the boss. Serena said she herself suggested they call the police. She pulled her car into a parking lot outside the gate and waited. Before the police got there, the guard’s boss said she could go in. She drove the loop, noticed Alex’s car wasn’t there so she went back out. And supposedly that’s when the cops showed up.
So the events sound perfectly reasonable. But the motive and intent bother me.
She flew down to Miami without having a pre-arranged meeting with Alex. So she was going to “bump” into him (ambush him) and ask him the question?
Okay, so she goes to the island and drives by the house. Why doesn’t she stop and ring the doorbell? Maybe Alex is home and his car is hidden from view. Like in a 4-car garage. Maybe Cynthia was driving the car. How does she know what kind of car he drives?
More questions than answers.
SI is a reputable publication, but Serena Roberts actions late last week do seem more TMZ than SI.
I don’t think even Verducci would go to the extent that Roberts did.
So even if her story checks out, it doesn’t feel right.
funny shirt
http://www.customink.com/desig.....2/retrieve
Abreu for 5 mil 1 yr? What a heist by the Halos.
Unless the Angels signed abreu in the last 30 minutes, abreu and and The Angels are only talking to him. He’s not signed, yet.
Nick,
He did look a little Orange.
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Not to mention that he also pulled faces, probably while he was trying to restrain himself from singing the Oompa Loompa song.
You know what they say M, “motive is everything”, lol.
Or something like that.
You know what they say M, “motive is everything”, lol.
Or something like that.
He was referring to Girardi.
btw, what constitutes a criminal conspiracy?
Ack! sorry for the double post.
Ack! sorry for the double post.
zell’s got new photos once again
http://zellspinstripeblog.com/.....kees-soon/
Good stuff from GI Joe. He doesn’t need this distraction in his training camp, best thing to do is tow the line forgive A-Rod and let the players round into shape.
I know, but look at the face he’s pulling in that picture above. Definite restraint there.
What twisted deception is he cooking up? It boggles the mind.
Dave: How many ways can I say that she did not have access to all the names. Somebody leaked her Alex’s name, just iike somebody leaked info about the Balco case, etc. If she had access to all of them, she would have published all of them. I don’t know how much more simple I can make it.
G-Man: I never published any photo of A-Rod in the stripper story. Never once. I also don’t have a personality conflict with Alex. I have no relationship with him whatsoever. At this point, his actions speak for themselves. Frankly, he’s a sad figure at this point, reduced to making up stories about people breaking into his house and chasing around wizened old pop stars. How much lower can he go?
m,
I also heard the interview and it did sound quite strange. She said that she did call beforehand to let them know she was going to try to see alex but she did NOT say what the person who picked up the phone said and it clear was not alex. Then, her story about going to his place was far more strange – So she said she was having a conversation with the front gate person who I guess was like a security guard type and she said that the person working there said she could NOT go in. Selena said that it was public property so she did think she had a right to go in and the guard said no. So then, serena suggested calling the cops “to find out the law” because she assumed the cops would know.
I have issues with that. One, instead of calling the cops, why not just call arod to see if she could come in. It was clear that one, arod did not know she was coming and two, she thought that if he did, alex would not let her in. Further, she clearly did NOT tell the person at the front gate she was there to see alex. I dont know what guard at a front gate would not call the person who they are visiting to ask if they could come in. Even in my grandmothers retirement community, they call a person who lives in the development to check the name. Also, she did not tell the guard who she was seeing so she probably said she wanted to come in just to look at the houses.
So she drove around looking for his car – probably because she either didnt even know what house arod was in or because the guard was watching her and she couldnt stop in a driveway. There is NO WAY alex does not have a garage so i dunno how she was expecting to “see his car.” Finally, the cops stopped her and she said a citation was written or something similar to that like a log report but it wasnt because she did something wrong but because they have to record every incidence they go to. I dont buy that – I think the guard wouldnt let her in because she refused to give her name and so the cops were called.
Also, she went to see alex at the gym where he said you have to talk to the union. So she went to alex’s home and the gym where alex was working out and neither time did she get in touch with alex beforehand but just tried to find him and talk to him. I could see how alex would misconstrue that as stalking and I think selena did distort the story a little bit to make her out to seem like a very honest, innocent reporter. Frankly, i THINK she tries to walk the very thin line between being a great reporter and violating some very good laws.
Orioles blog ranking yankees prospects:
http://camdendepot.com/winter2.....0_NYA.html
Strange to do but a good read nonetheless. They gave a lot of credit to the guys with very high upside that have a long way to go before they actually reach it if they ever do like brackman and betances.
Pete, Arod could go much, much lower. He has his freedom, his fortune, and his job. All of this is surface noise.
Well, Roberts was her usual snippy self again today in the interview with Kay, when she described going to the house, and, of course, didn’t do anything but drive by. She then snorted out, “A lot of celebs live on Star Island, including Madonna. How convenient, huh?”
how many interviews is Selena Roberts going to give?
I think that is five today.
If I hear her say “process” one more time I’m going to gouge out my ear drum.
I’m guessing by the end of the week she’ll be begging for a guest video on the LoHud blog.
Pete
Is her story plausibile? She drove by his house and didn’t see his car? Give me a break
DT: I haven’t heard a single one of these Selena Roberts interviews beyond about half of the Costas one on Saturday. Did she have anything to say about the “process” of anonymity in the original 2003 testing?
The old drive by his house to see if he’s home trick. I had an ex girl friend who used to do that. She was chemically imbalanced.
Pete,
I know what you said but I was listening to the roberts interview today and that is not the vibe that she gave me. It sounded much more like she could have gotten more names if she had tried but she didnt because she wanted to focus on arod. She said she really wanted to solidify or nail down (cant remember her exact wording) the stuff with arod. I mean you could very well be right because she did not explicitly say anything about having access to any of the other names.
But the thing that got my attention was that when asked why she only got arods name, she did NOT say that she did not have access to any of the other names. You would think that she would mention that if that was the main reason but all she said was she wanted to focus on arod because that was the person she was doing the story on. I dont doubt that she never actually heard another name but I do think that if she pushed for it, she may have been able to get more names mainly because she never explicitly states that she couldnt.
Either way pete, I hope another one of your fellow brethren can get another leak and slowly the entire 103 names are revealed. It was wrong to take arods privacy from him but now, its even worse that arod is the sole focus of the blame for over 20 years of use. iT SEEMS VERY UNFAIR. Furthermore, how can the BBWAA guys reasonably start making decisions about who shouldnt be in the hall based on steroids use when they always know in the back of their minds that their are over 100 names yet to be revealed. What if one of them is on the ballot and gets in the first vote in ten years but never would have if that list was revealed. It makes the HOF voting based on use a crock because there are still soo many great players out there who are also “frauds” or so everyone says.
Pete,
I urge you to go back and check it out.
You placed the large pic of the NY Post back page…Arod and the Dancer front and center on this website.
It’s obvious you respect his ability as a player but you don’t like him personally…I have no problem with that…it’s not a big deal. It is what it is.
So the NY Times was working the A-Rod/Steroids story too? 6 years- nothing and all of a sudden everyone has the scoop?
On Roberts upcoming book:
“The book is still a work in progress,” said her book editor, Mr. Hirshey. “I assure you she has more drug revelations as well as other news. Not everything that Selena has on A-Rod’s steroid participation has come out yet.”
http://www.observer.com/mobile/article/82241
The newspapers back home suck to read right now – but there is one tiny redeeming thing about them – no mention of ARod.
She’s protecting her sources. Because as you know, violating one’s right to privacy, and protecting the identities of four felons, is worth getting the scoop.
Is Selena’s “process” the same “process” Cash always speaks of?
Am I strange in that IF I drove by someone’s (that I didn’t really know) home and their car wasn’t out the front, I’d assume it was parked in the garage – and not that they weren’t home at all?
Nick –
The WFAN one was pretty good. She actually talked about her book coming out when asked. Usually she just says it’s an Arod “profile”.
I’ve never heard her talk about things from the 2003 side. The question always comes up about sources and then she goes into “process” mode. I need to respect the “process”.
She also said she’d protect her sources until the end. If they fit her for a prison jumpsuit maybe she’ll change her mind.
Pete keeps saying she would publish the 104 names if she had them – she never has said she doesn’t have them. Again that’s a “process” question.
A-Rod leak might have been a crime
“Two former prosecutors said it was likely that Judge Susan Illston, who is presiding over the Bonds case, would order contempt hearings.”
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/ne.....;type=lgns
GB7, There was a posting about ten minutes ago regarding the Yanks top 20 or farmhands….They finally get to Austine Romaine….Take a quick peak about what they say about his catching evaluations and his footwork…..
dave,
I don’t think you’re the only one that feels the media is purposely spinning this to garner more attention so they can in turn have a larger audience. I wrote in the other thread about my observations of callers on the Michael Kay show – to say the least, many are not buying into the media moralization and high-ground positioning. Kay took a good bit of flack today (though he seemed to hang up on the callers that disagreed with him a lot more quickly), as have many of the columnists on ESPN.
People aren’t as naive as they used to be, which is unfortunate for the media.
Pete – arod could always bring a loaded gun to a night club and shoot himself on the foot while he was playing miserably? He would also get a DWI or even better a DUI. I love how because joba is young and a great prospect but not nearly a star that is DWI was frowned upon but quickly, forgotten. While arods story about doing steroids 6 years ago will be the talk of the town for the next two years. Now, i KNOW arod is a much bigger star, is more mature and roids issue among players in this country is a HUGE issue at the moment.
But if you seriously consider for a minute that the whole country takes far more issue with a player taking roids than they do with a player driving while drunk or even with a player beating his wife, It makes you wonder where the heck our priorities are at. I mean drunk dirivng is basically taking your life and anyone elses life who you pass in your hands. Alex may have broken the law but he certainly didnt risk anyone elses life. I barely see how he really hurt anyone else outside of himself at all. The yankees would have allocated their money to a more deserving player?
Alex would still have a massive contract so Im not buying that one. I think this country’s perspective at time can get very distorted and wrapped up in the hype where we really lose all sense of reality. In reality, what alex did was far from anything horrendous yet, people are acting like it is the worst possible thing he could have done. I CAN think of many, many, MANY worse things alex could do than take roids six years ago. So how much lower could alex go pete? A heck of a lot lower than this.
tarheel,
Might have been a crime? Is it even a question? Those were sealed federal documents and the MLB promised the players the anonymity when the test was first taken. I cant see how leaking the info was NOT a crime.
And regarding selena and her co-author epstein’s view point about their sources – they say that their privacy is extremely important. In my head, i kept thinking yea because if they are revealed they would go right to prison. But there is something called obstructing evidence and contempt of court I believe. If a judge wants to speak with those four sources – that judge will speak with those sources. Process or no process.
Dave:
If I agree with you, will you stop writing 500-word posts? A-Rod’s great. God bless him. Everybody should take steroids. Selena Robers should be executed at dawn.
There. Now take a breath and stop trying to overwhelm everybody.
When summers heard epstein say they HAD to protect their sources, summers said something like oh of course and you have every right to. Actually, if they broke the law, epstein has no right to protect his sources. I would venture to guess what these anonymous sources did was actually more illegal in the eyes of the US justice system than what those 104 anonymous players did. That is just a guess though. And people still seem to completely disregard the fact that STeroids was not against the rules of baseball until 2004. I keep hearing that arod violated the rule of baseball – no he did not. Not unless he took roids longer than he says he did.
Nice post Dave.
Hey Pete,
These people are not being nice to Selena.
Please delete their offensive and misguided posts!
woohooo… I need to get to sleep fast, dawn comes pretty early around here.
Pete – Can I scalp tickets? I think front-row could go for higher than Bruce seats.
Sorry pete. I just listened to 880 for almost four hours and I had a lot to say. pLUS, I have not posted once here today before an hour ago. I will stop now. Just wanted to get it out. Thanks for providing the space for me.
The above post was to say I agree with Dave about there are much worse things that Arod could have done.
Hey… wait a minute. Who is this Selena Robers?
We didn’t pay big bucks to see her executed! It’s a scam.
dave
settle down buddy. That was a Yahoo sports headline not mine. I agree it was a crime. We can only hope that they subpoena her, and if she doesn’t answer, hold her in contempt. I actualy might gain a little (very little) respect for her if she did that.
Alvin –
That is nice to hear. I kind of picked up on a little of that too. The media thinks they have the power to brainwash the public. They may have that power but the educated section of the public is not so easily brainwashed. Its surprising how unified the media has been in their position though – every single one of them seem to be taking the same hardline on everything from arod to selena to the 100 person list. Its rare to hear a dissenting opinion among the microphones.
PAT M.
February 10th, 2009 at 11:14 pm
GB7, There was a posting about ten minutes ago regarding the Yanks top 20 or farmhands….They finally get to Austine Romaine….Take a quick peak about what they say about his catching evaluations and his footwork…..
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Pat M, do you have a site of the evaluations or a link? I’d like to know how close or far off I was to what I saw.
Hi Pete,
That was kinda mean, you could have been nicer about it.
Don’t get mad, just saying you could have been nicer. :p
Now back to my Knicks game.
GB
I think he was referring to daves post at 10:56
http://camdendepot.com/winter2.....0_NYA.html
Pete, Do you think this situation is too much for Girardi to handle? Even though I hate to admit it, we all saw how Joe G struggled with the media last year. Can he keep the team focused through the circus that will ensue?
Thanks, Tarheel and Pat M. I guess my feelings about Romine and Montero weren’t too far off. I was surprised not to see closer Jonathan Ortiz and 1B Brandon Laird listed.
In terms of radio I don’t listen to much sports stuff outside of 1050 and WFAN, but dave you’re right that there’s almost never a dissenting voice among the media. I think the only person to step out of the box today was Max Kellerman, who was willing to point out that the media was just as much at fault as all other members involved for shamelessly *juicing* this thing for everything it’s worth. He also said that the listeners have accountability too because if they weren’t so enthralled by the subject the media wouldn’t flock to it (which is true as well). Max is crazy but I (and many other people who listen to 1050) do appreciate his willingness to not be a drone.
GB, I too was surprised that Brandon was ommitted..They were in agreement with us about Austine’s footwork…I haven’t seen him play since HS, but I always thought that was going to be an issue with him…He has poor footwork behind the plate, but his arm was outstanding at the prep level…..And to think they say us old farts are out of touch….
“If I agree with you, will you stop writing 500-word posts? A-Rod’s great. God bless him. Everybody should take steroids. Selena Robers should be executed at dawn.
There. Now take a breath and stop trying to overwhelm everybody.”
Peter your blog is great but you do not look good when you write like this.