Big boy in the house
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Wouldn’t it benefit Shelly to be in camp with a team he actually has a shot to play for?
Who else was expecting the photo to be of ARod?
hahaha…too funny
I am rooting for Shelley. Good luck.
shelly=roids
Shelly Duncan is Shane Spencer without the talent. I assume that he must have bought a couple of rounds at the bar for the writers, last night.
actually when i first read big boy in the house, my first thought was cc.
“shelly=roids”
yeah, in high school he was 5’9, 150 lbs…..
:insert sarcasm emoticon here:
Shelly went out of his way to give my son an autograped ball.
So ^&%^& all you Shelly haters. j/k well maybe a little.
Hah. I hope they just keep him in the dugout. It’s fun just to see how he reacts.
Is 33 available for Swisher? I’m thinking its taken but am blanking right now.
Ham Fighters –
I thought CC, too.
ahhh, Bruney.
33 = Bruney
Doreen,
You thought Sabathia what? Took juice?
Shane Spencer equaled roids and other drugs.
Shelley’s just a big rangy guy a la Frank Howard back in the day, but of course with less talent.
He should go home.
Oh, how the might have fallen 2 seasons ago Shelley was a Yankee God now he is AAA.
I too, thought that “Big boy in the house” meant CC was there.
yes, sadly its true, doreen has been hounding cc all year, broke into his apartment and accosted him in a gym at the university of cleveland and found out that he’s been juicing like foster brooks all winter.
David Ortiz is going to be one of the 103 left on the list – Red Sox Nation is not ready for this Ha Ha.
Red Sox slugger, David Ortiz admits hes not 100% sure that he has ever taken steroids.
“I tell you, I don’t know too much about steroids, but I started listening about steroids when they started to bring that (expletive) up, and I started realizing and getting to know a little bit about it,” Ortiz said Sunday. “You’ve got to be careful. . . . I used to buy a protein shake in my country. I don’t do that any more because they don’t have the approval for that here, so I know that, so I’m off of buying things at the GNC back in the Dominican (Republic). But it can happen anytime, it can happen. I don’t know. I don’t know if I drank something in my youth, not knowing it.”Reported by Boston Herald(how is this any different then what A-Rod is saying??)
These comments come after Ortiz’s recent comments about Barry Bonds and his supposed use of steroids(Ortiz goes to bat for Barry). Supporting Bonds, Ortiz explains that hitting a baseball is much harder than taking some steroids
“To hit the frickin’ ball, the guy makes it look easy, but it ain’t. I don’t know how you can have that swing, consistently. I don’t know how steroids can do that,” Ortiz said. “There are supposed to be guys using steroids in the game, and there’s nobody close to Barry Bonds. What’s that mean? He was using the best (expletive)? Know what I’m saying?”
JonMichel,
Shelley Duncan was NEVER and will NEVER BE a Yankee god.
NO!
I thought when Pete said big guy in the house he meant Sabathia!
Ham Fighters -
Well, I WAS in Cleveland last August, but by that time, CC had escaped to Milwaukee.
doreen, so you dont deny you have been following him, eh?
Ham Fighters -
Well, I’ll let the process speak for itself.
Am I the only one who doesn’t have a process?
hmm, I thought Shelley had signed a minor league deal with St. Louis for some reason. Well best of luck to him. He came to Albany last year to help out the center for disabled and he did a tremendous job. Not only did he stay for the entire thing (which not many of them do), but he answered the phones and did a lot for the telethon. Seems like a good guy to root for.
can i just say, mlb network is like manna from the heavens when im sittting here at the computer and they are playing WS highlights!
they just opened the segment with an awesome arial shot of YS before game 6 of the ’51 subway series!
Johnny Damon was just on WFAN with Evan and Kim. Talked about how the team would support Alex. He went on about how angry he was when his name appeared on that bogus list before the Mitchell Report came out last year. Damon said that he was offered steroids as a teen, but declined and is clean and has never used PEDs.
bauer clears the bases (berra, dimaggio and mize) with a big 2-out double!
I thought it was CC, too.
What’s CC’s name? Super Size?
Why do we still have this guy?
Doesn’t he want a shot at the bigs with another team?
Shelley is the definition of a single dimension player. Get him out of here.
With all the other nonsense going on right now, it sure is nice to see pictures of actual baseball going on, even if it is only practice.
“Shelly went out of his way to give my son an autograped ball. ”
the value of the ball went down
come to think of it, when the yankees played the giants in 1951 WS, did they even consider that a subway series?
YS and the polo grounds were probably less than a mile apart.
m
February 11th, 2009 at 11:31 am
I thought it was CC, too.
What’s CC’s name? Super Size?
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That would be “Cuper Cize”. C, as in citizen.
I caught part of the interview with Damon – he was pretty honest (I had no idea he knew Alex when Alex was 15) and said that Alex has some growing up to do. I guess we all do in some way – Alex is being forced to do it now. He’s going to have to take his medicine like a man.
I can’t listen to Jones anymore, though. She practically accused A-Rod of using steroids as a teenager – she’s nothing but a gossip-hound now. I can’t even stand her voice…..and the idea that she will be covering this team ? Unbearable.
The Jeter thing is not going to go away. Evan and Kim talked about it – Evan seemed to have a bigger problem with Jeter only wanting to talk about it once because, as captain, Jeter is going to have to talk about it a lot – it’s just something he’s going to have to deal with. I don’t know, I don’t disagree with Jeter here, but the more I think about it, the more I wonder if he should have said something.
Some of you sound like Red Sox fans.
What did Shelley Duncan do to some of you? Run over your dog?
What difference does it make if he is in camp or not?
Perhaps, he will catch on with another team. Perhaps he will be back at Scranton.
Either way, there is no reason to hate on the guy.
No wonder why the world hates Yankee fans.
Betsy -
I think Jeter was fine in saying he wanted to this once. The thing is, with the media, the more you give, the more they want. It’s an insatiable beast. That’s just the nature of it. Neither good nor bad. Just is.
Well, I don’t think Kim Jones is going to get very many friendly post-homerun interviews with ARod this year, is she? Or, will she slap on a phony smile and go about her business? You see, because we will all know it’s phony now. And Alex has to be professional about this. He has to be available, and he has to be HAPPY to be interviewed about baseball situations. It will be very interesting over at YES this season, no?
Shelley should go play in Japan, they would look up to him there
It’s a pity that Rodriguez couldn’t have gone on TV and just made the admission and a dignified apology, without the excuses about the culture and without the lies (“she broke into my house where my daughters were sleeping upstairs!”. Now everything he says will be doubted and implications by Jones and others that he used PED’s outside the period that he admitted to will be heard with at least some trepidation by fans that there is more to come.
Doreen
February 11th, 2009 at 11:44 am
Betsy –
I think Jeter was fine in saying he wanted to this once. The thing is, with the media, the more you give, the more they want. It’s an insatiable beast. That’s just the nature of it. Neither good nor bad. Just is.
Well, I don’t think Kim Jones is going to get very many friendly post-homerun interviews with ARod this year, is she? Or, will she slap on a phony smile and go about her business? You see, because we will all know it’s phony now. And Alex has to be professional about this. He has to be available, and he has to be HAPPY to be interviewed about baseball situations. It will be very interesting over at YES this season, no?
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Kay had better rein in some of his BS, too.
I think Jeter did say something, before Alex apologized. The earth slipped off it’s axis.
Jeter is the captain, not the team spokesperson. His job is to be a team leader, not coddle Alex or be the one to fix his image via the media.
I hope Jeter tells Alex, “Hey butthead, you really f’ed up. I’m really pissed at you. But we’ll just have to deal with it. The only thing we can do is move on from it. Let’s not give them any more ammo, ‘kay?” If Jeter doesn’t tell Alex how he really feels, they’ll just grow apart. And that’s not what this team needs.
I’m with Jeter on this. Do it once, get it over with an move on.
someone will slap on a phony smile and go on with thier buisness, and we all know they’re phony?
you were talking about jones, not arod, right?
Betsy, Kim was starting to annoy me too. I thought it was a little much when she asked Johnny if every time Alex goes into the bathroom, would Johnny think Alex might be taking steroids?
I also think that Derek is doing the right thing. Get all of the media together, answer at once and be done with it. Why answer the same question every time a different reporter shows up at camp? There will be a lot of reporters coming into Tampa this week.
How about Nancy Newman (and I hate her on TV) as the new Kim Jones??
Ham Fighters -
Hummina, hummina, hummina (not-so-good Ralph Kramden imitation).
But yes, I was talking about Jones in this case.
Kim realizes that these were probably steroid pills and not injections, right?
could we maybe just allow the possibility that jeter wants to talk to alex face to face before he says anything? maybe he wants to ask him man-to-man if he used as a yankee.
hes under no obligation to say anything. arod got himself into this mess.
Nancy Newman will be fine – she’s totally scripted.
Joey’s Poodle,
Agreed. It was a ‘tad’ long (36 minutes?!?). Felt like a political informercial. The best spin money could buy. Unfortunately, Alex exposed himself to further attacks and action.
Luckily, Congress has graciously declined to haul him into a Senate hearing.
Off to the supermarket. I wonder if this has made the National Enquirer yet?
Definitely thought Pete was talking about CC with the post title.
6 6 6
m, Luckily, Congress has graciously declined to haul him into a Senate hearing.
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That’s been the one piece of good news so far. I am hoping AR will say nothing more and Jeter will hold to the sensible position he’s taken and make one and only one statement, and the media will be forced to move on. To baseball.
There are a few questions being raised about why A-Rod is being pinpointed this week and nobody else. Justly so. ‘The List’ had 104 names. That was for tests taken in ’03.
There were no tests taken in ’98 when there could easily have been 200+ names on such a list, maybe even 300. Nobody will ever know exactly, but precision in the numbers isn’t the point here. There’s something fishy happening now. Several hundred players did it over several years, and of them about 100 players who didn’t already acknowledge using PEDs got nailed one year. Suddenly there’s a big expose based on that list of 104 players, and there’s only one player actually named?
In the last couple days I read somewhere Canseco said he finally had ‘the ear of the nation’ now. Didn’t he say after his last book something alluding to waiting for the right time to spring A-Rod?
Does Canseco have another ‘roid expose book in the works? Roberts has a book coming out (on this) doesn’t she? Connection?
Whether they’re right or wrong about what they’re saying, there’s something crooked going on, and it’s an issue independent of steroids in baseball. Meaning, just because someone has an expose in the works, it doesn’t mean anyone & everything involved in their self-promoting mission is immune to breaking the law or being unethical, or on a higher moral ground that those they’re on a vendetta against.
ANSKY
If you want to go the conspiracy theory route, Bonds judge disallows Feds evidence, Roberts story breaks, Tejada announces plea deal all in the same week. Coincidence?
And the weather’s been weird, too… wait, was that a black helicopter…
“Kim realizes that these were probably steroid pills and not injections, right?”
Why should she?
Joey’s Poodle
That was my point. You can make a conspiracy theory out of anything.
Jeter isn’t doing anything wrong.
He’s unwilling to feed the media beast on a daily basis. Who can blame him?
Address it once and be done with it. Better to do that when everybody is there.
Its so funny to me how everybody is picking apart Arod’s interview.
No current or former player caught using PED’s has ever said so much about it. Yet, its not enough.
Its never enough for some.
He isn’t going to specifically say who sold him the stuff or what stuff he took because that puts him in the government’s crosshairs.
I understand the sports media feels that players should say anything and everything about everything every day because they have stories to write.
However, in this case, when you have the Federal Government so desperate to nail guys, they are committing more serious crimes (leaking of Grand Jury testimony as well as sealed court documents) than the crimes they are investigating, you don’t say ANYTHING that puts him in the government’s crosshairs.
If that means the sports media hates you, so be it. It beats the hell out of 5 million dollars worth of legal fees to keep yourself out of getting indicted.
He should just concentrate on baseball, say even less about it, and go about his business.
Hopefully, in a smarter fashion than he has in recent years.
I live in tampa now, is it open to the public that minor league camp? Id like to stop in some mornings on my days off
Newsdays back page says “Jeters Wrong, Wright is Right” in regards to how they are handling speaking to the media about ARod.
Some NY writers are retarded.
“Its so funny to me how everybody is picking apart Arod’s interview.
No current or former player caught using PED’s has ever said so much about it. Yet, its not enough.
Its never enough for some.
He isn’t going to specifically say who sold him the stuff or what stuff he took because that puts him in the government’s crosshairs.”
Exactly my sentiments as well SJ. The media’s behavior has been ridiculous, frankly. Absolutely ridiculous.
So ARod gets ripped for saying it was a loosey goosey era, saying it’s no excuse. Then in the next sentence they say he is right.
What’s wrong with that picture.
Surprise, surprise – Alex is on the cover of this week’s Sports Illustrated. Who knew?
“There are a few questions being raised about why A-Rod is being pinpointed this week and nobody else. Justly so. ‘The List’ had 104 names. That was for tests taken in ‘03.”
Guess it depends on who has the list. Roberts indicates she does not and despite her shaky credibility, I’d lean to believing her. Would make no sense for her professionally or otherwise to name one of 104. 1 name is a big story, 104 names is a HUGE story. The sources on this would be interesting since all four of them have presumedly seen the list. Sadly, even if they are identified now, I think the MLBPA will see to it those names are not released…for real this time.
Not thinking black helicopter conspiracy theories here. Even Kevin Youkilis thought there’s something not right with how its all played out.
You know what the problem is?
The sports media doesn’t understand the legal system.
More specifically, they don’t understand how the government works when they have someone in their crosshairs.
It would be nice for those who cover this story to interview lawyers who work in the Federal System and who have experience with clients in the crosshairs of the government to get their perspective on it.
Particularly the talk radio crowd. I hear more nonsense from that faction than almost any faction of the media on this stuff. They don’t know what they are talking about…..don’t want to learn, and just want to keep throwing out nonsense, appealing to the equally brain dead in their audience.
If Arod was a regular citizen, and this stuff came up, there isn’t a lawyer in the world who would tell him to submit to an interview to discuss it. At least not a competent lawyer.
He talked, he said what he had to say, and that’s it.
Not enough for some? That’s life. Deal with it.
Life ain’t fair.
By saying what he said, Congress has come out and said they won’t call him to testify. That’s a win for him.
Next step? The US Attorney’s Office.
Given the noise coming out of SF about a possible investigation over who leaked his test results, I’m guessing the US Atty wants no part of Arod right now. He’s got bigger problems if that judge orders an investigation into who leaked that info.
The ONLY thing that can mess him up is if he isn’t being truthful about not using since 2003.
If he isn’t, he’s got BIG problems.
If he is, while all this stuff is embarrassing, it will go away in time.
“actually when i first read big boy in the house, my first thought was cc.”
Was i the only one who thought it was Britton?
From Rob Neyer:
Even if you assume that performance-enhancing drugs have
had a measurable impact on statistics — which is far from settled, by the way — you wouldn’t expect to see a particular player do extraordinarily unexpected things. It’s safe to say that if Alex Rodriguez had never broken a single law or a single rule, he would still today be on track for 800 home runs.
I don’t know; maybe nobody cares. But it seems like somebody should.
“actually when i first read big boy in the house, my first thought was cc.”
Was i the only one who thought it was Britton?”
I thought Dan Pasqua came back to town
SJ:
Saying more than anyone else who’s been exposed and saying enough aren’t the same thing. I’m glad he came forward, but am not delusinal enough to think that what we saw with Gammons was anything more than a carefully crafted bunch of half truths. I’ve got no problem with that. That interview was all about self preservation, and that’s most everyone’s most natural instinct. He had to say something, yet not too much.
You seem to want to reward him for it, but to me, there was nothing commendable about that interview. He had to do it to save himself and be able to move on. There’s no reason for the media not to call it pretty much what it was. Certainly no reason to lobbing bouguets in his direction.
Did we find out if Roberts actually broke into to Alex’s home and held him hostage?
Look, I was upset more than a few times over Jeter’s refusal to get the media to back off of Rodriguez, especially after backing Giambi (who, by the way, was not carrying his share of the offensive load during half of his time in NY) and again with Pettitte. As far as with this issue, Jeter and Damon have both had their say on the issue, so that should be that. The rest is up to Rodriguez. He has his one time only go with the media, no questions about what he took, no questions about his personal life. One day, one hour, away from his team, unless they chose to be there. No questions to the team mates. Any question beyond that, and, if they are brought up, end the session right then. Personally, I’d then give the media the finger, but, that’s just me.
SJ
More likely they understand but don’t care.
A-Rod tripping himself up is good for business. If he just so happens to get a call from the Feds, not their problem, their fortune.
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. If they can find someone else who wants to apologize for using PEDs and does it better than A-Rod, I’ll be the first to critique his response.
Enough will never be enough.
He had to do two things in the interview.
BEGIN to save himself. The interview alone wasn’t going to do it and nobody is saying it is.
More importantly, and a fact lost on most of the sports community, he HAD to stay out of the government’s crosshairs.
Frankly, that’s the #1 thing he needed to accomplish with the interview.
Look, people who hated Arod before the interview, in and out of the media, are going to hate him afterward. That’s not going to change. Some have their reasons and some don’t. In that regard, it is what it is.
People who like him or want to give him the benefit of the doubt, will do so.
Above all else though, he had to not put himself in legal peril.
At first blush, he seems to have have done that.
It makes it a “mission accomplished” interview.
His legacy (for lack of a better word) will be determined at how he conducts himself over the next 9 years.
I like Shelley. First saw him play for the SI Yanks in 2001. The very first game I attended, it was around the 6th inning and he hit a booming home run that cleared the fence and landed in the harbor.
The back drop for this was the Twin Towers, which only a few months later would be gone.
Shelley has done nothing wrong to warrant such hatred and could be playing elsewhere at the major league level, but the guy wants to stay with the Yankees and he has given up a lot to do so. Apparently to him, he’d rather be in the Yankees farm system, than play for someone else.
Got it, he has not shown he can do it for us, but at least he is not costing us millions per year or been outed as a user.
I doubt that anybody hates Duncan. The fact of the matter is, though, NYY has better options at first base and the outfield than him. If he could catch, along with the other 2 positions, then, he would have value.
The homerun chase? Who cares? I can’t think about it now. Maybe, I’ll change my mind in a few years if it heats up.
Anyone who doesn’t acknowledge Barry Bonds as the homerun king, but would consider Alex the homerun king if he breaks the record would be a hypocrite.
I consider Barry Bonds the homerun king because he holds the record, but it doesn’t mean very much in light of the era.
Man, this blog was full of Duncan supporters last Spring Training. I guess Duncan isn’t the new black anymore? He is a goon, looks like sloth and has heart. What else could you need? ha ha