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Yankees make a medical move

Posted by: Peter Abraham - Posted in Misc on Feb 11, 2009 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

The Post reported today that long-time (as in 21 years) team physical Stuart Hershon is stepping down and will be replaced by Dr. Chris Ahmad.

How teams manage injuries and work to prevent them is an aspect of the game that has improved greatly over the last few years and will continue. The Yankees have stumbled a few times (remember Marty Miller?) but this move seems like a sound one.

Dr. Ahmad is associated with the famed Kerlan-Jobe Orthopedic Clinic in California and is now with New York-Presbyterian/Columbia University Medical Center. He’s a shoulder and elbow expert and has done innovative work on knees. Obviously this is a top-notch guy and it’ll be interesting to see if the Yankees change how they’ve done things in the past.

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Mark Teixeira was at Georgia Tech today to drop a cool $500,000 on the baseball program and commented on A-Rod.

“I’ve been around long enough to not really be shocked by anything,” he said. “This is a sport that’s had some troubles, there’s no doubt. I’m not going to judge anybody. I’ve never touched steroids or any of those kinds of things — it’s something I feel very strongly about — but at the same time I’ve made mistakes, I’m not perfect, no one’s perfect.”

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One of the keys to spring training is a decent car. Along with driving back and forth to Big Stein Field every day, we have some fairly lengthy road trips.

I rented out of National and dropped $20 on the guy in the parking lot to get a nice ride that had satellite radio and an aux jack for my iPod. Terrestrial radio doesn’t cut it down here and I didn’t want to haul down a bunch of CDs.

It’s good having E Street Radio (all Bruce, all the time) and the POTUS channel for politics. ESPN has a few stations as well.

I stumbled across Chris Russo’s station this afternoon. He is just brutal without Mike Francesa. It’s like his old Saturday-morning WFAN show, only louder and more nonsensical. It was hard to get through five minutes.

 
 

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76 Responses to “Yankees make a medical move”

  1. Eppelin' Zeppelin' February 12th, 2009 at 12:00 am

    And Francesa is a hell of a lot more listenable without dog.

  2. Rebecca-Optimist Prime...Staying to Write the Story February 12th, 2009 at 12:03 am

    Pete: I’m intrigued by the timing of this. Do you know if Hershon intended to step down for a while or if this is a sudden thing?

  3. Clay Buchholz Loves Laptops (Latest Post: Love in all the wrong places) February 12th, 2009 at 12:06 am

    Francesa really went off towards the end of his show today. He addressed some comments that Chris Russo made on Howard Stern’s show earlier in the day.

    Pete, just curious, what do you think of Bruce’s new album? Also,have you bought any concert tickets yet?

  4. Baseball Fan February 12th, 2009 at 12:06 am

    I agree, they both are terrible alone, what a shame they broke up, both are now unlistenable

  5. Clay Buchholz Loves Laptops (Latest Post: Love in all the wrong places) February 12th, 2009 at 12:09 am

    I’ve gone to Dr. Hershon for some of my sports injuries. He seems like a nice man.

    He’s not the youngest guy in the world, maybe they want to get younger off the field too.

  6. Jon February 12th, 2009 at 12:09 am

    Pete What kind of car did you get?

  7. kill.schill(ing) February 12th, 2009 at 12:11 am

    “Now don’t go spreading rumors, I’m just throwing this out there and channelling my inner Joel Sherman for a moment.”

    Oh god, please, Pete, one Joel Sherman is already more than I care bear.

  8. GreenBeret7 February 12th, 2009 at 12:17 am

    I would think Hershon would be leaving because he wan’t's a break. He has to be in his early 70s.

  9. nate c. February 12th, 2009 at 12:20 am

    good thing sirius xm is filing for bankruptcy

  10. dave February 12th, 2009 at 12:25 am

    Pete,

    When you get to know Dr. Ahmad a bit can you please ask him if there is anything he knows about a summer internship program for medical students with the yankees? I figure if he is brand new, maybe he would be interested in initiating something like that …. Maybe I am just being optimistic. But I would owe you my life if you even asked him about something like that. Thanks.

  11. DT February 12th, 2009 at 12:28 am

    Dave –
    if you send Ahmad a resume, make it less than 500 words. ;-)

  12. GreenBeret7 February 12th, 2009 at 12:28 am

    The military has some great programs for medical students, that include full tuition and a paycheck. full ride including post work. At the end, you become a military doctor for 6 years as an officer.

  13. RSM February 12th, 2009 at 12:29 am

    It’s sunny Florida. I’m sure Pete went with the only suitable means of transportation for a civilized gentleman in such an environment, the Rolls Royce Phantom Drophead Coupe. In a tasteful understated color of course.
    :)

  14. Rock em Sock em Robots February 12th, 2009 at 12:33 am

    I was a big Mike and the Mad Dog fan for a real long time. I hate that they broke up because they were still putting on good shows. But I think Francesa does a real nice job and I enjoy his solo show; entertaining guests, good interviews, plus Mike knows his stuff cold. Yeah he can come off as aloof and harsh to some of the callers (hence the nickname ‘Sports Pope’) so I get why some people don’t like him. But I kind of like that New York attitude. Its necessary sometimes given the garbage that comes out of the mouths of some of the callers. I don’t have the money for Sirius so I haven’t heard Dog’s new show yet. But having Mike’d Up in the background as I do my work during the afternoon is still a great way to pass the day.

  15. Betsy February 12th, 2009 at 12:38 am

    Francesca is brutal without Mad Dog – in fact, together, they were pretty terrible. Mike is the most arrogant talk show host in existance and he interrupts callers AND guests alike. Russo, I think, is basically much nicer, but (at least on WFAN – I don’t get Serius radio) is a rabid anti-Yankee fan whose rants long ago lost their charm.

    A co-worker of mine heard what Russo said and didn’t think it was a big deal, so maybe Mike overreacted?

    I don’t mind mentioning this again – that’s a heck of a quote from Tex. His signing will bear fruits on and off the field. I’ve said this before, but I really have a great feeling about this team – I think they are going to mesh extremely well.

  16. dave February 12th, 2009 at 12:38 am

    DT,

    I need an in to talk to the yankees personal physician. Im sure a resume will get so far as either never getting a response or thanks but no thanks. I know, I know – it was a joke. But even buddy complimented me today on my posts being to the point and it didnt come across as sarcasm although I can never tell on the blog without a smiley face or something.

    I heard Mike and Russo had some sort of face-off on their respective shows this week. I have always hate the dog – he is just awful even with a partner. I cant imagine what he is like alone. I used to like Mike when he had a partner and only spoke half the time instead of every second. Now, that he has a chance to talk incessantly, i realized how arrogant this guy can be.

    Mike is always right in every conversation he ever has which is pretty hard to do when he talks to that many people each day, every day of his life. It gets annoying because he ignores obvious facts and disregards strong points by callers all in the name of supporting his own opinion even if it is a ridiculous one that he doesnt even necessarily agree with. I think he is open minded enough to be alright at some professions but he needs to be a little more open minded for a radio talk show host. You can already tell he gets on callers nerves quite frequently these days.

  17. Clay Buchholz Loves Laptops (Latest Post: Love in all the wrong places) February 12th, 2009 at 12:43 am

    Dave,

    I don’t know about the Dr. Ahmad, but I never had a problem getting an appointment with Dr. Hershon. Maybe you need to come down with a sore rotator cuff or something. If you get an appointment with the guy, you can always slip it into the conversation.

  18. Manton February 12th, 2009 at 12:46 am

    Hey Pete, check out Ron and Fez on XM 202/Sirius 197 Noon-3 PM. It’s not sports, but it’s a great, funny talk show.

  19. Rock em Sock em Robots February 12th, 2009 at 12:46 am

    Betsy – couldnt agree with you more regarding Tex (haha, pretty sure he will be referred to as ‘Tex’ 99% of the time given the weird spelling of his last name). I sat down with friends at the end of the season and even more than CC, Tex was the guy I wanted. Young, athletic, switch hitting, gold glove defense, power. Whats not to like? I think the big incidental beneficiaries to Tex will be A-Rod and Jeter b/c he will save them from a lot of throwing errors.

    On Francesa – yeah, I totally get what you guys are saying because you are right, he is really arrogant. But I like my sports radio with a bit of attitude! If you want a totally different style, try Steve Somers (The Schmooz of Late Night Sports) on the Fan. He cracks me up, great guy, fun guy to talk to on the air (yes, you can actually get on his show, its not always busy like Mike is during the day).

  20. dave February 12th, 2009 at 12:47 am

    I agree – russo was getting so wrapped up in being a yankee hater on the fan that he forgot he was a talk show host as well. At first, I didnt mind the incessant rants about how bad the yankees are but they were far too frequent for being on the radio in nY and the fact that he was a SF giants fan and talked about how bad the yankees were the whole day really got to me. And i also realized that dog was so quick to jump down the yankees throat for EVERYTHING but mike was almost neutral when it came to the yanks and contradicting dog on the program. T

    he only time I would hear mike insinuate that he was actually a yankee fan was when him and doggy would have their 2 hour long debates in May about when the yanks could officially be called out of the playoff hunt. Doggy would always call them out by June or July and then, they would debate how its too early for hours. Francesa is horrible alone – i actually didnt mind him with russo but now he is such a pompous jerk to everyone and acts like there isnt a thing in the world anyone could tell him that he doesnt already know. And he treats most of his callers like garbage or dirt. One of those two. Its unbelievable that someone that arrogant can be given his own talk show host in which he is supposed to talk with and share his opinions every day. At this point, he doesnt share or discuss, he preaches and yells like if the called doesnt believe him they deserve to be taken out back and shot. I used to be neutral towards mike but now, i cant stand the guy.

  21. jeloij February 12th, 2009 at 12:48 am

    Could someone please tell me why mike and dog split up? (or at least link a story or something) I used to listen everyday, I miss like 2 days of their show and all of a sudden they’re gone-zo. And now miked up is unbearable, cocky $&@$

  22. rodg12 February 12th, 2009 at 12:50 am

    Pete:
    I know you’re a big follower of Will Carroll’s stuff. He’s said for years that training staff, equipment, methods, etc. is an error where the Yankees could really improve and an area where they should flex their financial muscle more to gain an advantage on the rest of the league. Definitely sounds like this move is a step in the right direction toward doing so. Sounds like a really good get.

  23. dave February 12th, 2009 at 12:52 am

    Clay,

    Its a good idea but i think he will realize when there is nothing wrong with my rotator cuff as an orthopedist and all. And id rather not start off trying to get an internship under him with a lie but it is a thought to shoot him an email and see if he responds – do you know how i could get his contact info? I am not THAT interested in orthopedics but it does seem interesting and just the fact that it would be on the yankees would be a dream come true. I dont think Im ever actually go to go into anything sports related so this may be my only shot to do work for the yankees.

  24. jeloij February 12th, 2009 at 12:55 am

    could someone please tell me what happened between mike and dog that made them split? i listened to their show almost every day, i go away for four days last year and when i come back they wont work together anymore. please someone explain or link a page or something

  25. Rock em Sock em Robots February 12th, 2009 at 12:56 am

    cgar – of course the Yankees wanted a big bat this off season. Dont they always? But I wouldn’t say Pete was naive at all on the whole Texiera signing. They had just signed the two biggest pitchers for big bucks, the economy is tanking, they just got Swisher to apparently cover first. So not too many people thought they were going to be in on Tex. If you really did, then good for you, but you were probably in the minority. Cashman kept the offer/negotiation completely under the radar. If people like Theo Epstein or Tony Reagins didn’t even see it coming, you really blame anyone for failing to see it coming either?

  26. dave February 12th, 2009 at 12:58 am

    Rock em sock em,

    I LOVE STEVE! What a fantastic attitude that guy has? He is the perfect mix of intelligence, sarcasm, biting wit and humour. Sometimes, he goes overboard with the sarcasm and i didnt like when he told selena roberts that she has ever right to never tell anyone the name of her sources but steve is my favorite guy on the fan. And I also like brandon teirney on 1050. He was not great this week because he is coming down too hard on arod as they all are but in general, he is pretty excellent IMO.

  27. jeloij February 12th, 2009 at 12:58 am

    by the by, dog is horrible now, but those few weeks that they were going back and forth working by themselves russo was AWFUL, he would have a good 8-10 seconds of dead air, to the point where i would check to make sure my radio hadn’t shut off somehow. i cant imagine listening to his show now

  28. Rock em Sock em Robots February 12th, 2009 at 12:59 am

    jeloij – just did a quick scan of the wikipedia on mmd…might help shed some light on it for ya….just seemed that after 19 years they had had enough of each other.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_and_the_Mad_Dog

  29. jeloij February 12th, 2009 at 12:59 am

    ***mike is horrible now

  30. dave February 12th, 2009 at 1:01 am

    Rodg, I think you are right. Now, all they have left to do is one thing – hire me as Dr. Ahmad’s personal assistant to get him whatever he needs so he doesnt have to be bothered with the trivial day to day things and the yanks are ready to go. Just one more move is all i ask. it really could be crucial to the yanks future success.

  31. jeloij February 12th, 2009 at 1:02 am

    thanks rockemsockem, wikipedia, who woulda thought?!? it was so abrupt though, or maybe i was just blind to their hatred of each other

  32. jeloij February 12th, 2009 at 1:03 am

    dave, are you med or premed? and where if you dont mind me asking

  33. Rock em Sock em Robots February 12th, 2009 at 1:03 am

    Dave, yeah Steve is pretty awesome! He has gotten me through many a long drive home at night, a true character of sports radio. I hate the Mets but I love when he breaks out his pronunciations of the New York Metropolitans or New York Knickerbockers because he pretty much refuses to abbreviate anything. Me and my friends imitate him frequently. And its nice because you can actually get on his show and not always get the busy signal (assuming you are still awake of course).

  34. Clay Buchholz Loves Laptops (Latest Post: Love in all the wrong places) February 12th, 2009 at 1:10 am

    Dave,

    This is his office phone number. (212) 305-5561

  35. dave February 12th, 2009 at 1:16 am

    jelo,

    Im in med school at robert wood johnson in Piscataway, NJ

  36. Rock em Sock em Robots February 12th, 2009 at 1:16 am

    Argh!!! Damn Knicks, what a disgrace, losing to the Clippers. I’m going to bed now that the game is over. At least baseball is almost here!

  37. jeloij February 12th, 2009 at 1:19 am

    good for you. im not pre-med but everyone in all of my classes is. you people are crazy! luckily im a bio/clinical laboratory sciences double major with no signs of med school in my future(no offense, but i cant take that kinda stress)

  38. jeloij February 12th, 2009 at 1:19 am

    ***in all of my classes are. bad grammar

  39. dave February 12th, 2009 at 1:19 am

    Thanks clay but do you have his email. i was thinking about sending him a short email with my resume and such. Actually what do you think? Should I call first or email first? I feel like if I email we can set up a time to talk on the phone and i dont want to call him completely out of the blue about this. It seems a little akward considering I am asking about a position I am pretty sure does not yet exist or at least i have never heard of it. Do you have his email by any chance?

  40. dave February 12th, 2009 at 1:27 am

    Yea, if you dont like stress, med school is not for you. That is all it is. A ton of people were premed at my undergrad too. But they make it so obnoxious that most people who are premed dont even end up applying to med school.

    Rock em,

    I am always still awake for steve mainly because i barely sleep but he is a character. Sometimes, even in my car alone I just crack up at some of his comments. I rarely if ever laugh out loud at something when I am by myself. During steves show, it has happened a bunch of times already. i could listen to steve all night. It doesnt even really bother me that he is a mets fan because he is such a class act. And guys like Mike F, proved that even yankee fans have talk shows that yankee fans hate. i also really like BT and michael kay though. Both of them support the yanks and both of them are pretty good at radio shows for the most part. I like how michael is not at all similar to his in game personality. He is not even close to towing the company line on his own show. He will rip anyone if he feels they deserve it which I like. And Michael Kay and I have the same thoughts and opinions about most things so I tend to think I am listening to a better version of myself when i listen. As long as I dont get ticked off at every word the host says, I will listen but those three are probably the only three shows that i actually enjoy.

  41. Nick in SF February 12th, 2009 at 1:31 am

    dave, I think you should get an internship with Ben Sheets’ elbow.

  42. AROD fan February 12th, 2009 at 1:32 am

    they just keep repeating the same things over and over and over like we are stupid little children! and nuts!

    2. How is Willie Bloomquiest a Boras client?

  43. dave February 12th, 2009 at 1:40 am

    Nick,

    Im only in my first year. I dont think Im quite ready for surgery yet.

  44. V February 12th, 2009 at 2:13 am

    “good for you. im not pre-med but everyone in all of my classes is. you people are crazy! luckily im a bio/clinical laboratory sciences double major with no signs of med school in my future(no offense, but i cant take that kinda stress)”

    Ugh, biology was SO not for me. Math/finance here, and damn I happy I went that route ;-)

  45. Rudy February 12th, 2009 at 2:19 am

    Cool dave! I’m actually in my senior year at Rutgers New Brunswick.

  46. Rebecca-Optimist Prime...Staying to Write the Story February 12th, 2009 at 2:22 am

    History here, but I took a history of medicine class last year and was momentarily confused for a pre-med student because I was also taking neuro.

  47. Rudy February 12th, 2009 at 2:25 am

    BTW, Max Kellerman and Michael Kay are both wayyyyyyy better than Mike Francesca. I cannot stand his arrogance and attitude towards people.

  48. Mehdi also in SF February 12th, 2009 at 2:56 am

    Sorry Rudy, but I can’t tell you how wrong I think you are in regards to Francesca. Kellerman is good and can be fun to listen to, but he is not a pimple on Mike’s big butt. Mike can be pompous and annoying, but the man is good at what he does and his knowledge is immense compared to Kellerman. Kay is as good a radio announcer as he is calling a baseball game which is not that good at all.

  49. Drive 4-5 February 12th, 2009 at 5:24 am

    I think I just heard Carl Pavano scream “Oh sure, NOW they change doctors!”

  50. Alvin February 12th, 2009 at 5:55 am

    dave you go to RWJ????? I’m entering next semester!

  51. Alvin February 12th, 2009 at 5:56 am

    Forgot to ask, how is it there? And how is med school in general, compared to undergrad? Obviously harder…

  52. Paco Dooley February 12th, 2009 at 6:28 am

    Well, at least Chris Russo had one listener, even it was only for 5 minutes. Now WFAN needs to find an obscure home for Mike F and give the afternoon show to someone interesting…

  53. Doreen February 12th, 2009 at 6:55 am

    Pete –

    I love my E Street Radio – especially the live concerts – especially the live concerts from looooong ago – the 70s. It’s amazing to me that those were taped from beginning to end by someone. Most of the them, the sound quality is pretty good, too.

  54. Doreen February 12th, 2009 at 7:02 am

    Gotta love what Teixeira said about his parents killing him before the media even had a chance if he did anything like that (steroids). I know that attitude kept me away from some things growing up. I also always told my girls if they ever need a lame excuse for not doing something to just say “my parents would kill me.”

    It sounds like at least in the clubhouse Alex should have enough support to make it through day-to-day.

    I guess if the Yankees are going to be putting a lot of eggs in their pitcher development basket it’s a pretty good move to get a doctor who’s a shoulder and elbow expert. And with guys like Damon & Matsui around, it doesn’t hurt that he’s good with knees, too.

  55. Ace February 12th, 2009 at 7:26 am

    I completely disagree about Mad Dog’s show. I prefer him over Francessa and listen to his show rather than FRancessa’s.

    I really don’t understand the Mad Dog bashing in your column. When you listed Joe Torre’s appearances the other day you wrote “Wherever Mad Dog has disappeared to.” As one of 20 million satellite radio subscribers, I was puzzled as to why you couldn’t mention the technology.

  56. Vader February 12th, 2009 at 7:35 am

    Doreen,

    “It sounds like at least in the clubhouse Alex should have enough support to make it through day-to-day.”

    He is going to need it because if you read the Post this morning you’ll find out what the agenda is going to be with the media until real games start.

    “If the conversation moves away from Rodriguez, it will get to every Yankee being asked if he ever failed a drug test, is on the list of 104 players who failed in 2003 or has taken PEDs.

    Such is the life of a major league baseball player these days – and they can thank Rodriguez for that.”

    http://www.nypost.com/seven/02.....154801.htm

    What do you think is going to happen when a player or coach gets in one of the reports faces and insists that he ask baseball related questions????They will most likely report that he went on a roid-rage!

  57. Chien-Ming Vase arod didnt kill anybody/roberts broke no laws February 12th, 2009 at 7:51 am

    i like bruce almost as much as pete does and for probably quite a bit longer, (first timei smoked a joint in HS i was listening to “blinded by the light” when asbury park firs came out) but theres only so many times i can hear rosalita no matter how many different recordings of it they play.

  58. jonnycat February 12th, 2009 at 7:54 am

    a very good, insightful read about arod from a former teammate, sorry if the link was posted…

    http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02.....T-0211-L16

  59. Laura - Standing behind Alex! February 12th, 2009 at 7:55 am

    Francessa claims to be a Yankee fan, but sometimes, judging by the stuff he says, I have my doubts. And his obsession with McClouth is just bizarre.

  60. MaineYankee February 12th, 2009 at 8:01 am

    Laura

    I agree with you. Sometimes when he gets drooling over the RS I think, how can he be a Yankee fan and talk as if the RS are so wonderfull.

  61. Chien-Ming Vase arod didnt kill anybody/roberts broke no laws February 12th, 2009 at 8:02 am

    you can hit francessa for a million things, but to say he’s not a yankees fan is crazy. agree or disagree, its his primary point of focus on the show and has been going back way before even mike and the mad dog.

  62. SJ44 February 12th, 2009 at 8:04 am

    Vader,

    Better than that, King suggests CC, AJ and Tex could become “emotionally scarred” by having to answer questions about Arod.

    You can’t make this stuff up folks. He actually wrote it in the column Vader has highlighted.

    And you wonder why folks make fun of the media.

    Unfortunately, it looks like Sirius/XM will file bankruptcy by the end of the month. If that happens, a judge could order liquidation of the higher priced contracts (Mad Dog, Stern, Martha Stewart, the Boss) to pay creditors.

    Its a shame because its a great concept and I love it. However, they spent WAY too much money starting out, much more than they could possibly bring in, and they are doomed.

  63. Glenn February 12th, 2009 at 8:09 am

    SCHEDULE OF EVENTS

    Joe Girardi meets with reporters: Thursday.

    Pitchers and catchers report: Friday (physicals)

    First workout: Feb. 14 (Saturday)

    First full-squad workout: Feb. 18 (Wednesday)

  64. Chien-Ming Vase arod didnt kill anybody/roberts broke no laws February 12th, 2009 at 8:12 am

    i’ve been an xm customer for years and i’ve enjoyed it alot but what they’ve done to mlb home plate is ridiculous. they have a bunch of nobodies taking phone calls all day now. they got rid of buck martinez and charlie steiner.

    steiner could drive me crazy when he ties himself into grammatical knots, but his show was very informative about what was going on team by team throughout the league. now they have seth everett, who is a joke, answering phone calls all day in his place. it went from usefull to useless in about a week.

  65. Vader February 12th, 2009 at 8:14 am

    SJ…to me it is really sad when this is where the lay fan gets his information.

    As for the article that jonnycat posted, something Glainville said really jumped out at me…

    “We should step back and think about what we really want to gain from this situation. While I was playing professionally, it was disturbing to watch players cut corners through chemical means to get to that next contract. But I don’t see the good in selling our souls while claiming we want to chase the devil from our midst.”

    So if someone that was really effected by PEDs in the wrong way, is willing to let it go…why can’t everyone else just accept it and move on.

    I love this sport and the way it is covered like no other sport…but if this is the way the media is going to cover it…it will be a sad day, IMO.

  66. Doreen February 12th, 2009 at 8:17 am

    Vader -

    How ridiculous, yet how unsurprising is that? I doubt that the other teams will be going through the same thing, even though it’s pretty inconceivable that all 104 names came from the Yankees. I wish the NY media would get a frickin’ grip!

    You know, Woodward and Bernstein did a great job uncovering the Watergate scandal, but they sure opened a can of worms with respect to investigative reporting.

    Frankly, what do reporters hope to hear from any player? No one, but no one, is going to voluntarily admit in the media that he used PEDs. So, one can only conclude that reporters are hoping to get denials on the record so that if it comes to light that the player was lying, they’ve got their “gotcha!” in print.

    It’s why, in spite of the part of me that doesn’t think the names should be released, the other part of me says, let’s just rip the darn bandaid off all at once!

    As for Sirius/XM – they’ve been pushing customers to sign up for extended contracts. No way I’m going to send them a check for 3 years’ worth of satellite radio when their future is so unsure. Of course, I realize that if all of us gave them up-front money, it might abate some of their financial woes, but I think that’s a temporary fix. I think extending ridiculous contracts to people like Stern and Chris Russo backfired and helped to put them in the hole they’re in. I also think that the merger didn’t go so well as far as programming goes, and that a lot of people re-considered renewing subscriptions after some of the changes occurred.

    Chien Ming Vase -

    I hear ya on the overexposure to “Rosalita!” :lol: As much as I love E Street Radio (I played it non-stop for about 2 to 3 weeks), I realized too much of even a good thing is still too much sometimes. So, E Street is my go-to station when I can’t find anything else I want to listen to.

  67. Doreen February 12th, 2009 at 8:23 am

    Chien Ming Vase -

    I agree with you about MLB radio – and I never understood the changes. Sirius did not have baseball, XM did. So I don’t understand why they felt the need to revamp unless it was to cut costs. It used to be entertaining and informative; it’s lost a lot on both ends, in my opinion. And I absolutely agree with you on Steiner. Sometimes he aggravated me no end, but you learned so much about things all around both leagues.

    I also listen to Broadway music a lot and in this instance, both XM and Sirius had Broadway-format stations, so I understood the need to streamline. However, again it seemed that the Sirius people took over the format. All my XM people that I had grown to enjoy were gone. And the new people are just annoying. Sure, the music is the same, but the way it is presented is different and the non-music portions stink IMO.

    So, if satellite radio goes away, all I lose is the cost of the second radio for my husband’s car. I’ll save the per-month cost of subscription radio. And start bringing my cd’s back into the car. (Or break down and get an iPod touch for my birthday.)

  68. Doreen February 12th, 2009 at 8:25 am

    Also – satellite radio (paid radio) is a luxury in an economy where people are cutting back to just the necessities, thank you very much.

  69. SJ44 February 12th, 2009 at 8:28 am

    Vader,

    I completely agree. Glanville’s story should be required readying for anybody who loves the game. From the Commissioner to the Union, to the media to the fans.

    This entire sorry episode won’t go away for two reasons. One, incompetent leadership.

    Selig, Fehr and Orza all, for various reasons, have failed their constituancies MISERABLY in this entire ordeal.

    Their selective spin aside, they all misjudged the seriousness, and the vastness of PED use in the game. When it came to light, neither side really wanted to do much about it. Mainly because, it would hurt profits.

    You want to fix it? Get new leadership because the present leadership has failed across the board on tackling this issue.

    Second, the media. They won’t let it go. They are so busy trying to play “gotcha” YEARS after the fact, they won’t let the story die. Despite the fact that if you polled fans, most of them could care less about players and PED’s.

    They screwed up as much as the owners and players did 10+ years ago, when it was a BIG story. They didn’t have (as Bill Raftery would say) the “onions” to take on the sport when it was getting its popularity back.

    Now, they are playing catchup. Unfortunately, they are doing more harm than good and aren’t solving anything with their coverage of it. Especially, when you are digging up failed drug tests from 6 years ago. A lifetime ago when it comes to PED use.

    Throw in the US Government wasting taxpayer money chasing baseball players down who did steroids, and leaking like a sieve when their cases don’t go the way they want to, and you have a full blown freak show going on.

    How to stop it?

    Somebody has to take a leadership role. Somebody has to be the “adult” here. Unfortunately, finding that person is very, very difficult.

    Now we will be faced with the owners trying to play Union busters again. They see a possible opening because of the breakdowns with the 2003 testing program, and we will have to ready ourselves for another set of labor fights once again.

    That will only galvanize the players and we will soon have another OK Corral standoff between the owners and players.

    It just never seems to end.

  70. MaineYankee February 12th, 2009 at 8:29 am

    I think some of the problem with the media is that there is so much competition that they are looking for sensational stories to get the jump on the others.

    There are so many venues and so much air time and print to fill that at times it seems as if they need a sensational story to draw people to their program or paper.

    Look at the number of post here when something big or sensational happens. Not blaming you Pete just making a point.

  71. SJ44 February 12th, 2009 at 8:45 am

    And before people say, “What about the Children”, raise your own kids.

    Don’t look to Arod, Roger Clemens, Derek Jeter, George Clooney, Jennifer Aniston or any other athlete or celebrity to be role models for your kids.

    Do your job as a parent and don’t get sucked into the mass media culture of “role models”.

    Additionally, and this is for the younger people on the blog, PED’s have been in sports for 50+ years.

    The greenie problem was rampant for over 40 years in the baseball. There are guys in the HOF who were hooked on greenies. They needed them to hold up over a season.

    Greenies are a PED. Yet, when old warhorses like Bill Madden get on their moral soapboxes and rip today’s players, its funny how they conveinently neglect to discuss greenies from “their” era.

    Mickey Mantle was hooked on greenies. Did Bill Madden keep him out of the HOF? Of course not.

    Orlando Cepeda is a convicted drug dealer. He’s in the HOF. Guess who voted for him? Bill Madden and others who have gotten on their moral soapboxes in recent years over this stuff.

    Nobody is condoning cheating. But, think about it for a moment.

    The best coach in the NFL got caught cheating. May have won a Super Bowl as a direct result of the information he gathered by cheating. Not a crime but, that’s cheating just the same.

    An All-Pro Safety from that team (Rodney Harrison) got nailed for using HGH and ADMITTED IT!

    A doctor who was once employed as a team doctor of the Carolina Panthers illegally sold steroids to over half of the team that went to the Super Bowl.

    Where was the national media outrage over these incidents? There was little to none. Minimal, if any suspensions, and those stories died a quick death.

    Yet, baseball players get KILLED by the national media over this stuff. KILLED. Scarlet letters forever on their resumes.

    Yet, I don’t see the same “scarlet letters” given to NFL players and coaches who get caught cheating.

    We now have reporters going through the garbage of baseball players looking for evidence of PED use.

    I don’t remember a lot of “hard hitting” reports on any NFL player using PED’s or any coach who got nailed for cheating.

    Certainly not like we are seeing in baseball.

    The fact is, people cheat. Deal with it. You don’t like it? Don’t watch the games.

    However, if you are going to be fixated on every bit of cheating that goes on, how about making the coverage a little more balanced?

    If people think the NFL doesn’t have a PED/cheating problem, they are living in fairytale land.

    I’d just like to see some of our newly minted “investigative journalists” balance out their coverage a little more and take on the NFL.

    If you are truly interested in getting the “story”, I would think someone would jump at the chance to do it.

  72. gayle February 12th, 2009 at 9:07 am

    RE XM/Sirius

    SJ – The BOSS is not a high paid contract. I would venture to guess that he is not a salaried employee but it is a licensing deal for the use of the music. Licensed on both the publishing (Bruce side) and master side (record company side). Having had an artist who had their own channel it is considered promotiopn and although there is a fee it is by no means a large fee. This is NOT the case of course when it comes to Howard, Dog and the on air talent. I would venture to guess that Dylan, Tom Petty etc who actually do on air work do get paid a very nice saary.

    Doreen- I actually like the changes they made to XM175. Also in terms of the personnel on the XM side versus the Sirius side. Most of the XM staffers got shaved in the merger this includes not only the hosts but the programmers who actually programmed XM I think very interestingly and different. The merged some of the similar channels and stuck with the Sirius programing people rather than the XM people. I know a lot of the XM people and they are good poeple and had foresight into what they wanted to do, innovative ideas. But when the merger happened Mel K and his people just barrelled on through. Not to say that the Sirius people are not good just that there was a reason there were two companies they each had very different ideas into terms of programing and how to grow the concept.

    The probablity that either XM or Sirius would have had to declare bankruptcy without the merger is pretty high. All you have to do is look at the financials. I bet if the FCC knew then what they know now the merger would not have been approved. Also what the bankruptcy is also doing is making Echostar show there hand and force them to either step to the plate and actually take over or back away.

  73. Tarheelyank February 12th, 2009 at 9:17 am

    SJ

    I agree with your take on “investigative journalists”. “The big picture”, MLB, the Union, is the real story. Not just Arod.
    I don’t think we can lay all the blame on the media. The Arod story is like a Brittany du-jour. It sells! Society has to take some responsibility for the media circus. I just feel somebody has to be buying in to it, or otherwise they wouldn’t keep hitting us over the head with it. I do my best to not patroize news or shows that sensationalize things. It feels like a losing battle. IMO

  74. John in Ohio February 12th, 2009 at 9:50 am

    Marty Miller?

    No, I don’t remember.

  75. John in Ohio February 12th, 2009 at 9:59 am

    OK…just Googled Marty Miller, so I’m hip.

    Also didn’t remember that Mark Teixiera was at bat when Hughes was hurt in the 7th inning of his no-hit bid a couple of years ago.

  76. TJ February 12th, 2009 at 10:21 am

    Nothing worse than Kwis Wusso and now he’s about to bankrupt a whole company….what were they thinking?Russo and Lupica used to be stuffed in the same locker in HS.

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