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Posted by: Peter Abraham - Posted in Misc on Feb 13, 2009 
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“The Hall of Fame has his spikes. ”
That is as close to the Hall as Molina is ever going to get.
I think I’m the only Jose Molina fan I know. But I really like the guy. Even if that homerun was as big a shocker as our not making the postseason.
Any pix of the guys arriving Peter?
Jose Molina will hit the first home run at the new Yankee Stadium.
It has to be Jeter at this point to hit the first Yankee Stadium HR. A-Rod will just lead to the awful “House that Juice Built” moniker, which the Daily News presumably already has designed and is ready to print on April 17th.
Another Ex-Yankee tests positive. Sigh………..
http://weblogs.sun-sentinel.co.....voked.html
Andrew, what does OJ have to do with Yankee Stadium?
And if Jose Molina has to play a lot, we are royally screwed.
Yewnork, I assume you were being sarcastic…hopefully. Anyway, another fun won would be if it were somehow Melky, just for the hilarity of “The House that Melk Built” headline, and considering it would probably end up being his career’s crowning achievement (much like J-Molina in Old Yankee Stadium).
This could go on all day, btw. Would Teixeira’s christening of the short porch equal “The House that Boras Built”?
Chewie
What does Jimmy being a drunk have to do with the Yankees? Please explain to me!
“I think I’m the only Jose Molina fan I know. But I really like the guy. Even if that homerun was as big a shocker as our not making the postseason.”
I like him a lot as well. I wish he had a bigger bat, but his catching is phenomenal.
“I think I’m the only Jose Molina fan I know. But I really like the guy. Even if that homerun was as big a shocker as our not making the postseason.”
As I have often referred to the trade for Molina as maybe the best Cashman ever made, trust me you are not alone. The guy is worth gold to the Yankees.
Molina is a spectacular catcher. We just need the rest of the guys to help pick him up offensively when he’s in the lineup. I think guys like Melky and Cano will have better seasons this year, i’m hoping melky can at least give us league average performance from the plate.
I like Molina too, but we can’t have him catching 100 games again.
Does that mean that some fan has the ball? or is it already in the hands of a memorabilia dealer somewhere?
anyone know what time the workouts are tommorow?
Molina would be on my mix plate.
Why do I like him? Well, besides being a solid catcher and being well-like by the pitchers, he loves being a Yankee.
What are ya talking about, mel? They all love being a Yankee.
Of course they do. But I think that Jose appreciates being a Yankee. And he assimilated himself so well. I bet he’s a great, standup guy. And of course he’s humble.
I loved how he told the world that he couldn’t have been more wrong about his preconceptions of the Yankees. He thought they were a bunch of cold, corporate players, but he was very pleasantly surprised.
Lost in Tex-is is wearing his Arod spring training jersey and doesn’t even care.
I like Molina too.
I’ve already moved on in regards to baseball and steroid abuse. The only thing that has left a sour taste in my mouth that the Yankees are being targeted unlike most other teams.
It’s not even news anymore. It’s just gossip. We all know that there was a major PED problem in MLB and other sports for many years and in the case of other sports there still is..
the very few singled out players that the media have targeted for steroid use are nothing more than scapegoats for the rest of the MLB players who used. Trust me when I tell you that Bud Selig is happy that ALL the player names have not been released. Sure Baseball has been tarnished by the steroid ERA, but it was much more common/widespread than just a few top-named players that are taking the fall.
If the truth really came out about just how bad it REALLY was..
but seriously, I don’t really care. It’s old news already. Time to live in the now and support our team(s) and enjoy baseball again.
I have a Molina shirt. Never enjoyed watching a baseball player play defense so much. He is a weapon behind the plate.
Question of the Day:
If we need SP help cause:
A. Joba reaches limit
B. Burnett gets injured
C. Andy goes down
(3 of the more possible scenarios)
Are we more inclined to let Hughes/Aceves fill in, or sign Sheets to a half year contract?
P.S. Robertson is now one of my favorite Yankees.
Remember when Torre missed a game for his neice’s communion. Should have known then..haha
Im also a huge molina fan. maybe that home run is a sign of things to come.
SJ -
Just want to say great posts on the MLB situation back in the ‘CC getting Moose’s Locker’ thread. IMO, you were spot on in your analysis. Bud has always been a PR buffoon and this fact has only been amplified with this steroids mess. It’s almost like he’s TRYING to hurt the game with many of his actions.
As I have often referred to the trade for Molina as maybe the best Cashman ever made, trust me you are not alone. The guy is worth gold to the Yankees.
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Best trade? Really? I think you are reaching just a little there.
First time I’ve ever heard of a guy who hits .216/.263/.313 referred to as being worth gold. The few runs he saves with his defense are totally wiped out by those horrible numbers.
He’s fine as a once a week backup, but if he’s gonna be playing in 50-60 games this season that’s not a good thing.
I was Listening to Idiot and idiot this morning and they were complimenting how bud has handled this. WTH?!
His statement yesterday taking a direct jab at one of the best players was disgusting! And what took him so long to respond anyway? Why not let the story go on for 5 days respond so it can go on another 5 days! He didn’t have to invoke his name in his statement. Keep it general. The man gets paid 18 million to be a buffoon.
Best trade Cashman ever made was the David Justice trade, IMO. I’d rank the Abreu deal second, probably, since we gave up nothing to get him.
Bud also talked about suspension knowing he cannot do that according to the Collective Bargaining Agreement. He assumes fans are idiots and dont know this.
Bud is more of a problem in baseball than A-Rod, Clemens, Bonds and 100 other people.
Yeah the Bobby Abreu trade was pretty good.
“Best trade? Really? I think you are reaching just a little there.”
Maybe so, but where is Jeff Kennard’s career in comparison to Molina’s?
The Justice trade was awesome, didn’t he hit like 20 bombs in the 2nd half.
Oh and I agree with the Justice trade being Cashman’s best. Abreu was a straight salary dump, so its greatness is sort of lessened by the fact that it’s not something very many teams could accomplish (taking on Bobby’s $$). But little trades like the Molina one (and hopefully the Swisher deal) turn out helping the team in numerous ways, and Cash often gets no credit for them.
The Brosius trade was on Cashman’s watch too, I believe, Dumping the Gambler & getting something more than useful turned out to be a brilliant move.
ARod was Cashman’s best offseason trade. David Justice was probably his best inseason trade.
People keep pointing, and rightfully so, at the players association being responsible for the steroid problem.
But it really is on the commissioner. For years they enabled them because it helped their bottom line. The commissioner might be saying he’s always fought for it, but it was, at best, a feeble fight. He’s only talking up now, because everything’s come back to bite them. Lucky for Selig, the fans have more fortitude than he does. It’ll take a lot more than the best player in baseball admitting PED use to kill baseball.
So yes, it’s the players union fault for resisting testing for long and not warning and educating their players better. But it’s baseball’s fault for letting the player’s union push them around. But of course MLB wouldn’t dare allow a lockout. That would hurt the bottom line.
Brosius trade was pre-Cashman. Here’s a link with an Excel sheet breaking down all of Cashman’s trades:
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/.....istor.html
Other notable good trades: Knoblauch and Clemens. I’d throw Aaron Boone in there too. He did hit a pretty big homer for us and we gave up nothing for him it turned out.
That is really cool. I love Jose.
Are there any good hitting Back Up Catchers?
ARod too, of course, was a VERY good trade. Probably better than Knoblauch and Clemens. I’d put it 3rd behind the Justice and Abreu deals only because we did give up a good piece in Soriano who was better than anything given up for the other guys and Justice was a HUUUUUGE cog in a WS win.
from a few threads ago….. SJ44 for Commissioner
I agree that A-Rod was the best trade but everyone hates him. I still think we will get a title or two by the time he retires.
Arod was a good trade, too, because Texas ate a decent portion of the contract.
I’m sure that Texas doesn’t feel to bad about Alex’s assertion of the loosey-goosey drug culture there. They were probably very happy that Alex opted out of his contract.
kd,
If elected, I choose not to serve! lol
I’m a players guy. I can’t be an owners shill.
I find it difficult to feel sorry for people with nine to ten figure net worth’s because they can’t soak the public even more than they have soaked the public in recent years.
I also think the transparent attempt at unionbusting, as it has for the last 30 years, will fall flat on its face.
Unfortunately, Bud Selig is in charge of this game. This has all happened on his watch.
No matter how many of his cronies in the media say otherwise, his legacy is that of being the “PED Commissioner”.
Ripping players with moronic statements, talking about re-writing the record books, and working to keep certain guys out of the HOF ain’t changin’ his legacy.
I will never understand the HOF furor.
Just put a seperate wing in the HOF for the period from 1988-2004, talking about the PED Era and let those in who deserve to be in. Its part of the history of the game. Just like the Black Sox scandal and everything else that has happened over the course of the history of baseball.
It defies credibility to state that Clemens, Bonds, McGuire and Arod don’t belong in the Hall of Fame for their transgressions. Yet, a convicted drug dealer (Orlando Cepeda) is in the HOF. Where is the logic to that?
Its too much moralizing for my tastes.
Players took PED’s. Owners lied about economic impact to communities in order to get hundreds of millions of dollars in taxpayer money for new stadiums. Both things happened. Both equally unappetizing.
Get over it and move on.
SJ–
I totally agree with you HOWEVER I think the players need to grow some you know what on this issue as well and also blame their leadership that allowed this also to be kept silent.
There were players that went to the union and said we have a problem but it was ignored by the leadership. They were trying so hard to fight on the economic issues they allowed the drug issue to be used as a bargaining chip in that fight as well. The players need to step up to the plate and demand more of a voice and not let the same leadership that was in place during this period fall blameless. YOu know there are players that are strong union people but also have strong feelings on this issue. They should be the ones taking the fight to their union bosses and say enough.
The Justice trade was Cashman’s best work.
Step back in a time machine to the 2000 season and you’ll remember just how anemic the offense had become. Age was really beginning to show on the team.
Steinbrenner wanted Sosa before the trade deadline, but the “reported” asking price was Soriano, Nick Johnson and then some.
Cashman struck a deal for Justice, and the only player of any value he gave up was Westbrook.
That deal, in my mind, equated championship. There is no way they win the World Series that year without the monster performance that Justice gave them.
McGwire doesnt belong in the HOF anyway. Take away the Homeruns and there is nothing else.
Bonds and A-Rod have non-homerun related stats to fall back on.
sj,
i get what you’re saying. it’s a hard road to recovery that selig’s put us on. from a fan’s point of view, and someone who has not professional tie to the game, he doesn’t really seem to be the sharpest knife in the drawer. it seems to me that if i behaved that passively at work, i’d be shown the door. he was slow to acknowledge that there even was a ped problem, slow to respond, slow to show that he believed in the integrity of competition.
i guess he was just thinking about his big time paychecks.
Selig is a former owner.
Selig was appointed as commissioner by the owners.
To think he is something other than a mouthpiece for the owners is crazy.
I’ve talked to Bud a few times. I’ll give him credit for one thing – he is a “fan” of the game. Other than that – his leadership abilities in this era have atrocious.
The Boone trade wasn’t that great. Yeah, he hit that one home run but anyone could have hit that hanging knuckler out. He also choked big time in the WS, striking out with the bases loaded in the 11th inning of game 4 with 1 out when a fly ball would ahve given us the lead and brought Mariano in to close it out. Instead, Marlins won it next inning and turned that series around. He never could catch up to a good fastball.
Gayle,
Marvin Miller always said, “Its not MY Union, its YOUR (the players) Union”.
I agree with you, more guys should have spoken up.
However, you can’t put the “juice” (or the primabolan, whatever your fancy may be) back in the bottle.
Its done and over with.
We are going nuts this week over a 6 year old drug test that was supposed to be kept confidential. The crime of leaking is a more serious crime than possessing and/or using the steroid. At least it is in the Federal System.
That doesn’t get talked about by the media. Wonder why?
What if Arod got “scared straight” and hasn’t used for 6 years? If anybody knows his personality, that’s not an inconcievable position to take.
Obviously, we don’t know that to be the case. But, to dismiss it out of hand (as many have) is equally as disingenious as rejecting everything the guy did in his career and will do going forward.
Absolute thinking on these complex issues, while great for sports talk radio, is not rooted in any factual basis when it comes to really getting to the heart of the problem.
The fact is, we will NEVER know the depths of what went on in the game for 20 years.
Perhaps if George Mitchell conducted a real investigation (how about going to the Domininican Republic to see the PED labs and the stuff going on down there?) we might have gotten answers.
Instead, we played “gotcha” with the players. Easy, lazy, and it sells a lot of books.
Problem is, it doesn’t solve the problem of PED use in the game nor give us any perspective on it.
tampayank
February 13th, 2009 at 11:30 am
anyone know what time the workouts are tommorow?
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Players begin to appear on the field at 10:00 AM. Being a Saturday and the 1st day of workouts, be there before 9:00 to avoid the long lines.
I really like Chad Jennigs blog. Here is a good run down on all our pitchers.
http://community.thetimes-trib.....chers.aspx
If you were at the final game and saw molina in batting practice (like everyone who was there for the entire day) he was literally just stroking the ball, by far the best BP of the day. You could tell he was really on his game that day; sure you can say anyone can hit BP and they can, but some days, some guys are on and molina was making everyone around (who was paying attention) ask who is that.
On a side note, the rest of the yankee bats can carry molina’s and melky/gardner bats and I love watching Jose just gun down runners left and right, he’s amazing.