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Posted by: Peter Abraham - Posted in Misc on Feb 14, 2009 
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Pete slip Brian a bottle of Jack or Grey Goose. I’m sure he needs it.
Loving the I phone pics Pete. As the season progresses I bet your going to be a master I Phone photo taker
where is an asteroid when you need one?
randy,
you don’t like Cash and Eiland?
thought it was a golf shot at first glance
Man, we are sure jonesin for some baseball huh?
I watched Yankee’s vs. Huston last night
one of Joba’s first outings last season
pretty neat how you can buy them for two bucks on itunes and watch em on an itouch
love the blog even when it all arod all the time
( well to be honest I don’t love it then but I suffer through it.)
Not looking forward to another book review two days before the first home game
I love to see the photos, but someone has to buy Pete a decent camera with a zoom lens!
Ah, I can smell the dew on the freshly cut grass…..
Pete isn’t a photographer!! He is a beat writer!! You want to see professional pictures go to yahoo!!
Pete…thanks for the great coverage!
These pictures have allowed me to take momentary escapes at work all thru last week…
Does your camera have a zoom?… this would help us enjoy.
where is phil hughes
phil -
not really. my feelings about cashman are obvious. eiland is hard to figure. i don’t know what he stands for. just like with long as the hitting coach. i think they both may have rose through the organization exactly because they don’t stand for anything.
leo mazzone stood for an approach. charley lau stood for an approach. i like coaches who have a philosophy that has a definite theme and approach. i have no idea what eiland or long have as guiding philosophies.
i know what the red sox pitching coach believes in. he believes in establishing the fast ball and having command of it. it’s worked for the red sox too. the twins do not walk hitters. that’s a guiding philosophy.
as i said, i have no idea what eiland believes in as a pitching coach.
According to accuweather.com it’s 77 and sunny in Tampa right now. I am so freaking jealous.
pete, kepner says wang has his name’s chinese character on the webbing. can u snap a shot of it?
sorry on wang’s glove webbing
RANDY said ” leo mazzone stood for an approach. charley lau stood for an approach. i like coaches who have a philosophy that has a definite theme and approach. i have no idea what eiland or long have as guiding philosophies. ”
so you don’t like being out of the loop, you are saying?
seriously these 2 and their friendship are so cute.
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/ph.....lgp111%3A1
randy
Was you the first one Livan called after he signed with the Mets?
Charlie Lau had his detractors and supporters. Was Leo Mazzone’s sucess his approach or an all star pitching staff in Atlanta?
Long and Eiland are both highly regarded around baseball as is Scott Adred the new AAA pitching coach. For all Mazzone’s great “approach” his best feature was having 3 Hall of Famers in Atlanta. He burned out some other pitchers down there and then couldn’t make head or tails out of Daniel Cabrera in Baltimore.
Great pictures. All of them.
Can somebody buy Pete a real camera….please?
Great work Pete – this is a wonderful bonus!!
Hmmmm, isn’t Mazzone out of work? That sure does say something about what he stands for,
Randy 1 — Let me help
Eiland believes in establishing the fastball, working all four quadrants of the strike zone, staying ahead of hitters, minimizing walks and working quickly.
He has that in common with every pitching coach on the planet.
Phil — you nailed Mazzone’s approach perfectly. Hand the ball to Maddux, Smoltz oe Glavine and GTF out of the way.
Pete – I was at Spring Training 2 years ago. they were talking about expanding and putting seats behind the right field wall. Has this been done?
Also – one huge complaint. There was no place to buy food/drinks while watching practices. There is a concession stand but it was always closed. You can’t stay and watch practice all day in the heat without dehydrating. The nearest place to buy food/drinks was about a mile away.
Phil—you nailed Mazzone’s approach perfectly. Hand the ball to Maddux, Smoltz oe Glavine and GTF out of the way.
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And then sit on the bench and rock back and forth like a mental case.
So exciting to see CC throwing to Jorge. A preview of opening day?
Pete W.
They do have the seats in right field now, it is what they call the Tampa Tribune Deck bar. The concessions have always been open when I have been there, but I usually don’t go until the full squad workouts and BP starts.
Pete-
Traveling photographer w/ more powerful lens. I have a few Yankee fan friends who are good with the camera. Just a thought.
Great coverage though. Glad we finally started focusing on what’s important. It seems like years ago we got CC/AJ/Tex.
Are the reporters expecting any incidents between Teixeira and Texeira? I hope the language barrier doesn’t exacerbate the issue. I know Teixeira is really protective of being ‘Tex’.
(I’m sure if Favre didn’t retire, this would be a serious report by ESPN as a problem in Yankee camp)
Holy good God I am out of breath! The only downside to Pete’s efficiency is that I have to run faster that the Yankees to keep up with the blogging!
It’s pointless to respond in earlier threads because you know that everyone hops on board the Pete Express and keeps exploring new territory!
But SJ, wherever you are, this one’s for you! Great job of perspective on the Arod “matter”. I absolutely agree with you that schoolkids can learn really good lessons and still embrace Arod as a great baseball player! Perhaps the lesson is (as you pointed out to me): baseball players are human and as such make mistakes. Arod made a very big mistake but the important thing is that he doesn’t do it any more. He’s telling you, kids, that he doesn’t want you to make the same mistake. And you know, kids, being out for a pound of flesh isn’t really a nice trait, so if you keep hearing stories about what a bad man Arod is, realize that not everyone is a nice person and there are people who only feel good when they can either make trouble or bring other people down. You never want to be one of those people kids. Now, no to steroids, they are not good for you and they are illegal. But baseball is still a wonderful game!
Maybe I should be, but I’m not ashamed to admit that when I saw that linked picture of CC and AJ it brought tears to my eyes. I really get a high out of imagining how excited players are to be part of the pinstripes. I know the high I get that the Yankees are my team of choice.
Wow. I missed a lot. I scroll all the way down and it’s still today’s stuff at the bottom of the home page.
I’ll catch up later, but just wanted to say, “Thank you, Pete.”
Hey is that Selena Roberts lurking behind that car.
Cashman: “Did you see that I signed Brett Tomko?”
Eiland: “To do what?”
Cashman: “Pitch for us!”
Eiland: “Really?”
Cashman “Yeah. It’s a great,low risk move.”
Eiland: “How much are you paying him?”
Cashman: “The standard minor league free-agent deal.”
Eiland: “Do I have to coach him?”
Cashman: “Yes, that’s your job.”
Cashman: “And tell CC to shave. He scares me”
“I absolutely agree with you that schoolkids can learn really good lessons and still embrace Arod as a great baseball player! Perhaps the lesson is (as you pointed out to me): baseball players are human and as such make mistakes.”
Agreed. Embrace him as a great ballplayer, but not as a role model.
“Hey is that Selena Roberts lurking behind that car.”
NEVER!
“Agreed. Embrace him as a great ballplayer, but not as a role model.”
That works.
Something just occurred to me.
If Alex intends to address the roids hysteria, he should hold a press conference on Monday.
First, it’s a day before the team requires position players to report, so he avoids squandering his first day of training camp answering questions instead of working with his team.
Second, it’s a holiday. More people will see it perhaps because they’re home. Yet then again, fewer media people may be available to grill him, and the presence of weekend anchors leading radio and television broadcasts might result in more subdued and less hostile coverage.
Third, February 16, 2009 marks the 5th Year Anniversary of the Yankees’ acquisition of Alex The Great.
No irony intended, by the latter: he could use the opportunity to celebrate his 5 clean years with the Yankees and offer one of those customary trite paeans players are obliged to offer about how about how much the Pinstripes means to them.
Whatever he does, I hope he consults with the Yankees. With the exception of the Torre fiasco, the Yankees PR people are about as astute as they come in defusing media delirium.
kill.schill -
all absolutely excellent ideas. And I really like the idea of the 5-year anniversary as a defining date.
trisha, i suppose you have read canseco’s book “vindicated” in which jose says he introduced arod to a steroid dealer who later told him that arod had bought ped’s from, and also claims that arod constantly hit on his wife.
he ends the arod section:
“So A-Rod, if you’re reading this book, and if I’m not getting through to you, let’s get clear on one thing: I hate your (explitive) guts.”
im suprised you believe all that.
“Perhaps the lesson is (as you pointed out to me): baseball players are human and as such make mistakes.”
A mistake is when you accidentally step on someone’s toe. Shooting illegal PED’s into your system isn’t a mistake.
Call it a lasp in judgement or whatever but it surely isn’t a mistake.
He was doing something wrong and knew it!
mistake – an action or judgment that is misguided or wrong
is say it was a mistake as well as a lapse of judgment
game used -
I only read Canseco’s first book. I have to say that I said from the day I heard about the book that I believed everything in it. Canseco had no reason to lie about the stuff. As it turns out, even the media is now saying that the only person who has turned out to be believable in all of this is Jose Canseco. That’s why it annoys me at least a little that Pudge and Maglio Ordonez are getting a free pass. But it is what it is.
Jose also leaves out how he wanted several million dollars from for a couple of business ventures. If he didn’t get it, which he didn’t, he was going to run his mouth about him.
He pulled the same deal with Magglio Ordonez.
Jose is no innocent.
Nobody is minimizing what Arod did.
All some of are saying is, he’s not going to sentence himself to the death penalty for it.
Now, we see if this is a wakeup call for him.. Time will tell.
“from Arod”. Sorry for the typo.
right and wrong was relative in a sport where everyone was doing it and there were no consequences.
“right and wrong was relative in a sport where everyone was doing it and there were no consequences.”
Obviously valid. How much do we hear about the greenie era?
“Eiland believes in establishing the fastball, working all four quadrants of the strike zone, staying ahead of hitters, minimizing walks and working quickly.
He has that in common with every pitching coach on the planet.”-86w183
in other words, he doesn’t stand out then , so why is he the yankee pitching coach?
wouldn’t any of these other pitching coaches do just as well?
you don’t answer the question of what sets eiland apart.
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‘Phil—you nailed Mazzone’s approach perfectly. Hand the ball to Maddux, Smoltz oe Glavine and GTF out of the way.”
“And then sit on the bench and rock back and forth like a mental case.”
you see , with mazzone, there was this philosophy of throwing all the time that was very different than other pitching coaches. maximum velocity was down and touch and control were up. that’s a philosophy.
too many people have jumped on eiland’s wagon simply because he was somehow thought responsible for generation three which is now not what was hoped for.
he may actually be good. i really don’t know because he doesn’t say much about it that gets into print. i do, however, believe he along with girardi was responsible for convincing mussina to finally pitch inside which set the tone for mussina’s season.
of course , i’ve been saying that mussina had to do that for years, so that was a no brainer really. there is no one approach that is best, but i like an approach .
i notice no one has provided a link or a real explanation of what eiland’s pitching philosophy is.
same with long. on his own without torre and mattingly, long hasn’t has much success with hitters.
Eiland and Cash – sounds like a 70′s rock band.
somehow I doubt they are discussing the Torre book.
Mistake – An error or fault resulting from defective judgment, deficient knowledge, or carelessness.
Go figure, the dictionary disagrees with you. The part about defective judgment would seem to cover it concisely.