Joe Girardi audio from today
Posted by: Peter Abraham - Posted in Podcast on Feb 15, 2009 
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Here’s the manager talking about Chien-Ming Wang, Jorge Posada, Phil Hughes and Ian Kennedy and some third baseman who did something. I’m sketchy on the details:
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Howard Kurtz of CNN and the Washington Post reported that Alex Rodriguez called Selena Roberts to apologize for falsely claiming on ESPN that she tried to break into his house.
Roberts is here at Steinbrenner Field and confirmed that.
admitting your sketchiness is a step in the right direction.
I’m just going through the Moyer thread now – interesting how Pete posts about Moyer, but not about David Wright….or any other player who has come out in support (or at least is being non-judgmental) of Alex. It must be a coincidence, right?
I’ll have to listen to the audo later -sometimes it doesn’t work for me. What’d Joe say about Phil? Jorge? Thanks!
Betsy, I missed that. David Wright said it was OK to use steroids?
Meanwhile, David knows who he is and where he plays. He’s not about to say anything to draw himself into the story.
Can anybody tell me if the audio sounds OK? The wireless here in the press box sucks and I’m having trouble listening to it.
I read the Roberts article yesterday and was surprised it was so short.
It sounds fine Pete.
Pete: Audio is fine.
The audio is great Pete.
O/T question: Can anybody really sit and watch 4 hours of racing? I want to like NASCAR, but I just can’t do it.
Did she apologize back for reporting on leaked info?
Betsy–
Pete wouldn’t put up stuff that doesn’t support his view.
I can’t sit and watch 4+ hours of racing. I’ll watch the last 20 minutes
Pete, the audio is fine, but I am wondering if people like me often find themselves in places where they can’t listen to the full audio. I understand full transcripts would be a pain in the butt, but what about a cliff notes version of whats on the recording?
Why would Selena Roberts apologize for reporting on leaked information?
Pete,
Last Spring Training I remember Joe would play with his kids after the workouts everyday is he doing that again this Spring Training?
JM
Ed:That was the previous post.
Pauly: Why in the world would any reporter apologize for doing their job? Much of the information we get is leaked one way or another. She didn’t hold a gun to anybody’s head.
JM: Yes, both days so far. His son will play in the majors some day.
He should say something publicly about that distortion he made about her trying to break into his house. I know Boras was looking down at his script thinking, “Were there changes made that I didn’t know about?”
Well great, Selena Roberts didn’t try to break into Arod’s house.
What I found idiotic in her defense she said she never stepped on his property, she never rang his doorbell.
What was she going to do if she thought Arod was home? Did she expect to find Arod outside watering his lawn? Was she going to yell to him from the road?
Betsy didn’t you say days ago numerous times that you weren’t going to comment on the A-Rod stories anymore.
Seems to me that the majority of the people who claim not to want to read anymore A-Rod stories are the main ones who keep commenting on them.
Rob: If I ever figure it out, I’ll let you know, but it seems unlikley.
Why would Alex apologize to Serena Roberts and not to Joe Girardi?
Just kidding.
BUT, Alex doesn’t owe Roberts anything. He may have exagerrated or simply felt intruded upon thinking that his moat had been compromised. But, it’s not like she’s going to sue him for slander or libel. Jeez, Alex. You’ll probably want that apology back when she drops the other shoe. Apparently, she’s not done with you and plans to drop a few more nuggets of info on you.
Its freshing to see the family side of the Yankees with all this A-rod talk.
I never realized this. Brian Bruney-”Movie Star”
http://bats.blogs.nytimes.com/
Finally, Brian Bruney’s movie re-aired on cable Sunday morning. You didn’t know Bruney was a film star? In 1990, when he was eight years old, he appeared in Kindergarten Cop with Arnold Schwarzenegger. The movie was filmed in Astoria, Oregon, the next town over from Bruney’s hometown of Warrenton.
The producers needed some extras for a scene where a bunch of kids pour out of the school during a fire drill. Bruney is one of the kids, wearing a blue-and-white striped shirt with a bright orange hat. That hat was the suggestion of his grandmother, who told him to wear it so she could spot him when the movie came out.
Does anyone else get really depressed and excited at the same time seeing the pictures from tampa? I can’t wait for real baseball and nice weather…
she didn’t hold a gun to anybody’s head…just a lot of dollar bills. It certainly wasn’t out of the goodness of their heart or because of moral outrage.
Hey Pete,
What time do position players have to report tomorrow? And you know you need to get us a picture of Tex.
The apology was a smart move. It probably mostly defuses that line of questioning when he faces the media. Better to make a quick phone call and apologize than to be challenged about it in public and hem and haw.
my ears were burning and now i know why.
“Well, that’s another strike against Maine.”-gb7
gb7-
you’d like maine. at my family’s farmhouse, when having breakfast, you can look into a side room and see gun racks with about 30 rifles, assorted mounted bear , deer, and moose heads .
no one is going to come in and steal the pancakes. especially if all 67 of my first cousins are there. for some reason, i think you’d fit right in.
maine yankee fan-
no i don’t like hughes being thought of as the 6th starter if it’s before july1.
i think he needs the slow steady boring seasoning that he would get at triple a for three months. you don’t want hughes pitching on adrenaline all the time as he has in the past.
yes he can rise to the occasion sometimes , but eventually he hurts himself by overextending.
i have no problem with hughes being a starter for the big league team after 3 months in the minors if he’s doing well.girardi said himself that’s where he thinks he should be:
“Joe Girardi mentioned that he wants to carry a long reliever. But it would hurt the development of Phil Hughes or Ian Kennedy to use them in such a fashion. “Those guys need innings,” the manager said. Hughes and I had a little talk about it. “The paychecks would be great but that’s not what I need,” he said. “I’m good with pitching in AAA if that is what happens and being ready for when they need me.”
girardi just doesn’t say how long he would like hughes in triple a. there will be injuries to the starting five. i’ve already said i expect one pitcher likely will miss 15 starts. so there will be need of a 6th starter.
omar minaya recently has said he likes having 8 starters in the mix which is why he signed livan hernandez to a minor league contract. the yankees are not smart thinking hughes will be the 6th starter if someone is injured early. i’d definitely use giese if someone goes down early. after june ,i’m ok with hughes.
Here’s some good news from River Ave Blues..
Bob Sheppard, the Yanks’ public address announcer since 1951, spoke to Ed Randall on WFAN this morning about his health and the Yanks in general. You can listen to the audio here. Sheppard says he’s back up to 145 lbs, which is where the doctors want him. He’s hopeful for an Opening Day return, but says that it all depends on his stamina. Make sure you give it listen, it’s worth it just to hear him say “stamina.” The Voice of God
Green Beret:
So you’re actually suggesting that Sports Illustrated/Time Inc. paid for information from a news source?
Sure thing. I’m sure that is what happened. They do that all the time.
When it comes to information and leaks…Anything is fair game so long as it not info that has been given a Court seal.
No, Raymagnetic, I never said that. I was at my cousin’s funeral today, so I did not have a chance to post in the threads at the time they were active (talk about the steroids now being put in perspective……)
Back to baseball talk:
I can’t believe that it even came up in conversation that Phil would be a long man – that’s a non-starter. As to who would come up in case of injury, I would say that Phil would clearly be the Yankees’ #1 choice, all things being equal. However, if it’s relatively early in the season, I would guess that the Yankees would want to let Phil (even if he’s pitching well) stay in a groove. Under those circumstances, I can see Geise or Aceves (if Aceves is already not on the team) making a couple of spot starts. I don’t think the Yankees will bring up Phil (assuming he’s pitching well) until at least the mid-point of the season.
Very cool to hear Joe talking baseball – thanks for that.
One of the things that I found interesting is the long analysis of Hughes and Kennedy. Joe mentioned them improving and I agree that is a big deal. He stressed a major point they need to focus on is their attacking the strike zone. In Hughes’ case I think the key to that is going to be him keeping hitters off his fastball.
During the off-season I read a nice little piece on Hughes where the author was looking at approach. The main premise the article was that Hughes needs to do a better job at fooling pitchers. One of the approaches that was suggested would be to use more high fastballs to get off his curve. There was the feeling due to Hughes’ big ark, in the great curve that he has, the hitters were able to distinguish between his two main offerings. If he changed up his pitch sequence to include the high FB then it could come out looking more like the curve.
I also like the idea of Hughes improving his cutter and change as that will also make it easier to be in strike zone while giving hitter’s something else to think about.
Giardi being a former catcher hopefully will be able to give these guys and the catching staff a better planned approach to the success of the two youngsters. More than just the simple montra of them being more aggressive, I think they both have to figure out how. I’d guess that the conversation he has with the players are a little more in depth that what he relates to the media. Just hoping that that’s the case and they both follow through on achieving their potential.
Pete, you could be right about Wright. That said, not every player has been as judgmental as Moyer about A-Rod. Just like all matters in life, people are going to have different opinions about these things…….what can you do?
It’s good that Alex apologized to Selena Roberts, but that said…….I can’t blame him for being upset at the upcoming book. I don’t think he needs to apologize for his lifestyle. He can be blamed for the steroid issue and adding distractions to the team, but he can’t be blamed for a reporter digging up dirt on his life (nor can he be blamed for Joe Torre writing a tome). These distractions were brought on him, he did not bring them on.
Man would I have some words for Ms. Roberts….
For those who have not seen it, this is a fun read about CC and AJ join the team.
http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/29199425/
Joba’s new nickname for CC is “Big Slim.”
Jorge says CC throws a ‘heavy ball.”
And AJ says if something goes wrong, its on him and him alone.
Like many who have stated it already, I cannot wait to see this Team in action.
Pete, how’d Phil look today?
I guess I have something in common with Bruney because I was also in a movie (very well known, with a big star) when I was a kid. I was in the opening scene ( a playground scene) – this was shot in NYC- but I’ve never seen it myself because this isn’t the kind of movie I would ever go out of my way to see.
randy l
February 15th, 2009 at 5:07 pm
my ears were burning and now i know why.
“Well, that’s another strike against Maine.”-gb7
gb7-
you’d like maine. at my family’s farmhouse, when having breakfast, you can look into a side room and see gun racks with about 30 rifles, assorted ***mounted bear , deer, and moose heads***
no one is going to come in and steal the pancakes. especially if all 67 of my first cousins are there. for some reason, i think you’d fit right in.
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You know that it’s just killing me to pass this up, right? You and 67 cousins from Maine with mounted animals…that’s just to easy to pass up, but, I’m a gentleman.
And Girardi’s comment:
“It’s nice to see them playing catch today,” he said, “and just listen to the sound of the ball hit the glove.”
Yeah, man.
Oh, come on, Pete…don’t pretend that newpapers and magazines don’t pay for information….just like cops pay informants.
GreenBeret7-
you’re ridiculous. Grand jury testimony in the BALCO case was leaked all over the place (Daily News, SF Chron).
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/.....eason=2008
List of available free agents. I wonder if this is the most free agents left with camp open.
Back Bench, thanks for posting!
I like AJ’s quote about not pointing fingers – he’ll be fine in NY if he takes that attitude.
SA- How funny is it that he was “in” that movie.
Can someone explain to me what a “heavy ball” means. Keep it clean fellas.
So I guess Arod lied about Roberts trying to break into his house?
Seriously, how does somebody tell when he is telling the truth? He lied in the 60 Minutes interview and now he lied in the Gammons interview.
The guy lies, and then he lies some more, and yet his fans keep coming back. I wish I could understand this, but this is really just insanity at this point.
*Oh AROID,* you can bet people are gonna be in your ear.Wait until you go to the stadium with the *Ugly Sickly Pea Green*
*Wall. Even their large rats will be gunning for you.*
New York’s starters underwhelmed with 59 victories last year, the Yankees’ lowest total in a non-strike season since 1992.
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Wow and Mussina had 20 of them. OUCH!
*SELENA ROBERTS,publish the whole Roid list!!!*
*IF you want respect,* if not you look biased.
Audio is fine, just need some video.
jennifer
February 15th, 2009 at 5:30 pm
SA- How funny is it that he was “in” that movie.
Can someone explain to me what a “heavy ball” means. Keep it clean fellas.
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It basically means that some pitchers throw hard and the ball has sink to it…Mel Stottlemyre, Wang, Kevin Brown, Webb throw like that and for whatever reason, the ball just has a different and later break than most. The rotation is tighter, breaks later and difficult to catch and harder to hit.
CC has movement on both of his fastballs, he only added the two seamer last season.
GreenBeret7
So usually when pitchers throw hard, it stays straight? But his drops?
“You know that it’s just killing me to pass this up, right? You and 67 cousins from Maine with mounted animals…that’s just to easy to pass up, but, I’m a gentleman.’
gb7-
when i said you’d fit in , it had a double meaning. either at the breakfast table or up with the deer,moose ,and bear heads
TOS,
Find something else to do with your time. Seriously, A-rod doesn’t care about your opinion. Its just baseball, its just entertainment, and all you holier-than-thou types with the bulging neck veins need to calm down and get a life.
Here’s to 9 more years with the best player in baseball!!
GO YANKEES !!!
http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/yankees/
Some good quotes about Wang, even from AJ (also from Cash):
“He’s big for us,” Burnett said. “What did he win, 19 games for two years in a row? A man like that doesn’t go on the back burner. He’s so valuable.”
“You know that it’s just killing me to pass this up, right? You and 67 cousins from Maine with mounted animals…that’s just to easy to pass up, but, I’m a gentleman.”
There must be two guys on here that go with the GB7 moniker because the guy I know is the antithesis of gentleman!!
Just harassing ya GB!
You mess with Maine you pay!
jennifer
February 15th, 2009 at 5:33 pm
New York’s starters underwhelmed with 59 victories last year, the Yankees’ lowest total in a non-strike season since 1992.———————————————
Wow and Mussina had 20 of them. OUCH!
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NYY had 13 guys make starts….It’s a wonder that they won 89 games. Rasner’s 20 starts was third highest.
What is she doing at Yankees Spring Training?
jennifer
February 15th, 2009 at 5:59 pm
GreenBeret7
So usually when pitchers throw hard, it stays straight? But his drops?
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No, Jenn, it depends on how late the ball breaks, not just the speed. Apparently, F?arnsworth (on the days he had control) was pretty easy to catch. Randy may be able to explain that term better than me. He’s always full of it…information, I mean.
randy l
February 15th, 2009 at 6:00 pm
“You know that it’s just killing me to pass this up, right? You and 67 cousins from Maine with mounted animals…that’s just to easy to pass up, but, I’m a gentleman.’
gb7-
when i said you’d fit in , it had a double meaning. either at the breakfast table or up with the deer,moose ,and bear heads
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I don’t like pancakes, Randy.
GB
you don’t like pancakes?
ray (sox fan)
February 15th, 2009 at 6:03 pm
“You know that it’s just killing me to pass this up, right? You and 67 cousins from Maine with mounted animals…that’s just to easy to pass up, but, I’m a gentleman.”
There must be two guys on here that go with the GB7 moniker because the guy I know is the antithesis of gentleman!!
Just harassing ya GB!
You mess with Maine you pay!
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Typical Red Sox fan. Just as soon as the smoke clears, you come in to fan the flames, again.
How’s it going today, Ray. Hope the (sox fan) family is doing fine, today? Tomorrow, I might change my tune and think that your entire family is full of troublemakers.
“Seriously, how does somebody tell when he is telling the truth? He lied in the 60 Minutes interview and now he lied in the Gammons interview.”
arod was being loose with his description of the reporter being at the guardhouse of his gated community. he knew he didn’t mean literally that she was trying to break into his house.
he meant she was trying to get in on his property to talk to him which she was.
it was easy to understand what he meant. if you don’t want to understand it that way, your choice.
that said , he made a mistake in veering off from his apology and confession to talking about the paparazzi like reporter doing everything she could to confront him. she’s irrelevant to his situation if he tells the truth.
if he doesn’t he gives every reporter out there power over him.
Phil
February 15th, 2009 at 6:13 pm
GB
you don’t like pancakes?
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Nah…never did like them or waffles.
Can you imagine if Ian Kennedy becomes the best pitcher on the staff?
“Boston Red Sox right fielder J.D. Drew is still battling back stiffness from a herniated disk that limited him in 2008. “
you like buckwheat cakes?
I think all of you who say Pete has his own agenda here are nuts. He reports. You can decide. I don’t know why everyone has to take Yankees’ news so personally.
Well, I think all of you who are named Travis don’t know the difference between objective content and editorial content.
Phil
February 15th, 2009 at 6:19 pm
you like buckwheat cakes?
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Nah, just never liked any of that kind of stuff. For breakfast, just eggs, fried potatoes, pig meat, biscuits and gravvy and Super Sugar Crisp.
Keep supporting your media friends, here, Pete.
Selina Roberts is a despicable human being. News is news, and I guess it needs to be reported, no matter how many people it hurts in the end. Well, guns are guns, and I guess we need to shoot them off always, without thought. Public right to know, you know?
While the story was true, reporting it violated a ton of confidences, not the least of which was the agreement between players and owners that the results would be anonymous. Some thought and foresight (sorely lacking in today’s media) would have been in order, yes?
I am wondering about how the BBWA was anointed to be the HOF gatekeepers? Is this decision reversible? Should we expose every flaw and bias in the BBWA writers before allowing them to vote? Should we take the vote away? Public right to know, you know…
ray (sox fan)
i don’t think gb7 knows where you live.
gb7-
actually the best thing served for breakfast was the home made donuts. who doesn’t like home made donuts? that’s un -american.
“I think all of you who say Pete has his own agenda here are nuts. He reports.”
Yeah, we are nuts because we do not suck up to Pete like you do with your note above.
Do you know the difference between reporting and spinning/twisting it?
Moyers link is a good example.
Reporting it and providing the link is reproting and it is good.
Telling that he is the most trustworthy guy and taking shots at A-Rod is spinning and using personal bias.
Well, as far as the HOF goes, it was the brainchild of BBWA. Sadly, they have gone from being the Grantland Rices, Ring Lardner, Jrs, and Damon Runyons to the Dave Egans, Dick Youngs, Jimmy Cannons, Mike Lupicas and Wallace Mathews, not to mention the lunatic frnge.
Travis, I don’t mean to pile on, but Phil is on the right track. Simply using language means that our choices of language will be flavored with our individual perspective. For example, if you like hunting (sorry Maine guys) you might say: “He is going to harvest a deer.” If you are opposed to hunting, you might say: “He is going to slaughter Bambi.” The result is the same no matter what the venue. The notion of objectivity in reporting never existed–just an argument to try to constrain the reader. Pete has opinions and they surface in his writing–no matter how much he might like to limit this. So read with full awareness–
February 15th, 2009 at 6:24 pm
ray (sox fan)
i don’t think gb7 knows where you live.
gb7-
actually the best thing served for breakfast was the home made donuts. who doesn’t like home made donuts? that’s un -american.
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I don’t mind a good, homemade donut. I buy my good homemade donuts from Goettleib’s or Krispy Kreme.
Boston Dave
February 15th, 2009 at 6:18 pm
“Boston Red Sox right fielder J.D. Drew is still battling back stiffness from a herniated disk that limited him in 2008. ”
Hey Boston Dave. I wonder how many games Rocco will play for the Sox this season especially if Drew keeps visiting the DL.
LTL, thanks for the well-reasoned argument, unlike the ones that came before you. So, the logical question that follows is this: If Pete’s reporting bothers people so much, why do they continue to read the blog? He isn’t going to change the way he does business, so shouldn’t folks just accept that and stop the whining? I’d rather rehash the Joba-to-the-bullpen story than continue to hear people yelp about the creator of the blog.
Ed. Note: I almost said “the creator of this excellent blog,” but God forbid I be accused of “sucking up,” right BBFan?
“I almost said “the creator of this excellent blog,” but God forbid I be accused of “sucking up,” right BBFan?”
If you are willing to denigrade the people who reasonably disagree with Pete, then you should also be prepared to accept how they feel about your posts.
By the way, you would have been correct to say “the creator of this excellent blog” but that does not mean Pete is perfect
“So, the logical question that follows is this: If Pete’s reporting bothers people so much, why do they continue to read the blog? He isn’t going to change the way he does business, so shouldn’t folks just accept that and stop the whining? I’d rather rehash the Joba-to-the-bullpen story than continue to hear people yelp about the creator of the blog.”
Because the way I see it, without readers – Pete doesn’t have a blog (or really a job) does he? After all, I assume he’s writing with a view to having people read it, isn’t he?
Some of us are quite able to recognize that 99% of the time this blog is excellent, and tell him so. We also tell him the 1% of times when its not so great. That’s not whining, its feedback.
Did Selena Roberts ever apologize to the Duke lacrosse players?
This is my main point, which I should have lead with in the first place. I think it would be much more productive for people to start their posts with, “I disagree, Pete, and here’s why,” as opposed to, “Pete, you just hate A-Rod, why won’t you admit it?”
Sometimes, I agree the feedback isn’t all that nice, but most of it is done in a respectful manner. I think that’s because of the quality of this blog 99% of the time. Speaking for myself, I respect and appreciate what Pete does with this blog, so I try very hard to be reasonable and respectful, even when being critical.
I’m not about to throw out the baby with the bathwater just because I don’t like aspects of this blog occasionally. In fact I stopped reading this blog for quite a while recently, when some of the insults towards Pete and some posters, turned very personal and nasty.
I love it. I report that A-Rod apologized to a reporter for falsely accusing her of committing crimes on national television and I’m “supporting my media friends.”
Of course.
I’ve come to the conclusion that no matter what I post, somebody will attack it no matter how innocuous it is.
Oh, and Pittsburgh Yankee Fan, the HoF asked the BBWAA to elect the players. Take it up with them.
And every vote is a matter of public record.
Meanwhile, on what planet is it a reporter’s duty to adhere to an agreement made by other parties? If MLB and the MLBPA can’t keep their house in order, we’re supposed to do it?
So somebody says “Alex Rodriguez used steroids” or “Richard Nixon” is crooked” and the reporter should say “Gosh, that would violate confidences, I cant report that.”
Of course. That makes perfect sense.
Keep looking long enough and you can blame the whole world before you blame A-Rod. But none of this happens if he decides not to take steroids.
The people blaming Selena Roberts are laughably dumb. She broke a huge story, proving that the supposed best player in the game is a fraud. And you’re mad because it’s your player. Boo freakin’ hoo.
A-Rod stuff is getting old – the story’s news cycle has a shelf life of maybe this Wednesday or Thursday after the press conference – or else everyone runs the risk of really turning people off of certain sites.
Yankees FANS aren’t blaming any one for AROD’S cheatimg,WE KNOW HE DID. *Why not dig for the others,if you aren’t*
*biased,that’s all we ask? The list has over 100 names.*
Happiness is knowing that when a Court orders a document sealed…nobody can look at it except if they want to copy it and give it to a reporter…who can then publish its contents to the rest of the world…makes sense…really it does (not).
The Nixon comparison is horse manure.
Selena Roberts reporting on the scandal over the false rape allegations against the Duke lacrosse team has been shown as biased against the lacrosse players in the blog of Professor K.C. Johnson. E.g., see http://durhamwonderland.blogsp.....-line.html
Come on Selena was merely offering an opinion as a private citizen.
There is a huge difference between real investigative journalism that seeks the truth and the run of the mill op/ed piece.
Isn’t it up to the reading public to recognize the difference and take it for what it’s worth?
Interesting comments about Phil and Andy. It makes you wonder with the long term contracts of CC and AJ will there be room in the future for Hughes Brackman Kennedy and Bleitch not to foreget Betances and Garcia. Audio was fine Enjoy spring training Ira