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Cashman is not real happy

Posted by: Peter Abraham - Posted in Misc on Feb 17, 2009 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Forget to mention this before …

Joe Girardi said the exact right things after the press conference, commenting that he thought Alex’s emotions were genuine and should serve to help him move on. He was clearly thrilled that his players banded together to support Rodriguez.

“Fired up,” Girardi said. “That was great.”

Then we have Brian Cashman, who clearly would like to find a Wayback Machine, go back to 2007 and get rid of his third baseman.

Here is what Cashman said when asked about A-Rod saying he was young and stupid:

“Those are the facts he gave you, it doesn’t mean it’s acceptable. I like the fact more that he was stupid rather than young or naïve. It was a bad decision that may cost him on so many levels.”

Then there was this:

“We’ve invested in him as an asset. And because of that, this is an asset that is going through a crisis. So we’ll do everything we can to protect that asset and support that asset and try to salvage that asset.”

An asset? Brrrrrr.

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254 Responses to “Cashman is not real happy”

  1. Tseng February 17th, 2009 at 9:34 pm

    I’d be pissed too. Cash didn’t even want to resign him.

  2. mark February 17th, 2009 at 9:36 pm

    Cant say I blame Cash…..but as the old saying goes this too shall past.
    We need to focus on baseball only here on in. love him or hate him – time for everyone to move on and support your team and ALL its players.

  3. BoogieDown February 17th, 2009 at 9:36 pm

    The use of “salvage” is very cold too. Makes it sound like A-Rod is an albatross in their view.

  4. Phil February 17th, 2009 at 9:37 pm

    Cash calls all of the players on the farm assets, it’s not an unusual word for him to use about a player.

  5. you gotta have faith (bronx zoo 2009) February 17th, 2009 at 9:37 pm

    lmaooo, not friend, or even human being, but an asset. yep thats cold. lol but if i was in his position i’d be pissed too.

  6. you gotta have faith (bronx zoo 2009) February 17th, 2009 at 9:38 pm

    awesome close up:
    http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_Nzq9.....sposse.jpg

  7. you gotta have faith (bronx zoo 2009) February 17th, 2009 at 9:39 pm

    http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_Nzq9.....sposse.jpg

  8. feefoo February 17th, 2009 at 9:39 pm

    hahaha too bad cashboy.

  9. Angel - A tale told by idiots, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing February 17th, 2009 at 9:40 pm

    I can’t say I blame him, really.

  10. you gotta have faith (bronx zoo 2009) February 17th, 2009 at 9:42 pm

    woops sorry for the double post my computer is going haywire. anyway the guy in the black hat in front of CC im thinking is nick swisher.

  11. ARoid's Cousin "No Speaka Dee Ingles" February 17th, 2009 at 9:42 pm

    I found some interesting old Lohud posts from Bonds hitting 715. (Only 7 comments back then!) I wonder what the reaction will be if/when ARod hits 763:

    Angel said…
    Shameless is indeed the word of the day. I have purposely not turned on ESPN for the last day – they’re no better.

    5/29/2006 01:05:00 PM

    Peter Abraham said…
    Oh, ESPN has been brutal. Called it a “magical moment” yesterday. Please.

    5/29/2006 01:13:00 PM

    Angel said…
    Yeah, I could barely stand to see the antics when he hit 714 rehashed by ESPN. That was a sad day for baseball – nothing else. I hope it was worth it, Barry. You might have surpassed the Babe in numbers, but at what price?

    Its hardly surprising coming from MLB. They’ve aided and abetted this in MLB for years. In my opinion, hey’re just as culpable, so them standing behind him is shameless, but unsurprising.

    Those T-shirts are nasty. I wonder how many they sell outside of San Francisco?

    5/29/2006 01:20:00 PM

  12. benny blanco February 17th, 2009 at 9:45 pm

    I’m officially worn out by the arod coverage…I will be back on next thursday to discuss st games. I will pray that nothing else comes out before then.

  13. S.A.-The 2009 MLB season is almost here February 17th, 2009 at 9:45 pm

    you gotta have faith (bronx zoo 2009) February 17th, 2009 at 9:39 pm

    http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_Nzq9.....sposse.jpg

    =======================

    Okay. So (from left to right)

    Swisher?(thanks Rob!), CC, somewhat bald man, Matsui, Joba, Tex, Coke, Hughes, Tomko?

  14. Gman February 17th, 2009 at 9:46 pm

    Get it Ass-et.

  15. Big Joe February 17th, 2009 at 9:46 pm

    OK…its starting to seem that Arod was really Hank’s boy. The fact he was there supports that and the fact Cash is selling him out says so even more. Too bad.

    Now lets play ball. His first 5 RBI night will fix a lot.

  16. S.A.-The 2009 MLB season is almost here February 17th, 2009 at 9:46 pm

    Okay. So (from left to right)

    Swisher?(thanks Rob!), CC, somewhat bald man, Matsui, Joba, Tex, Coke, Hughes, Tomko?

  17. jldraw February 17th, 2009 at 9:47 pm

    General question: If you were having a party and were asked to invite someone who would be the “life of the party” – where would the name Brian Cashman enter your mind when compiling such a list of potential guests?

    Droopy Dog strikes again but hey at least this time he has a right to be chilly I suppose

  18. EricNS February 17th, 2009 at 9:48 pm

    Pete – call it a night and listen to Bruce.

  19. pat February 17th, 2009 at 9:48 pm

    If the “asset” carries the team for a few weeks maybe he’ll upgrade him to that “guy”.

    The Humpty Dumpty reference was prety good too.

  20. jennifer February 17th, 2009 at 9:49 pm

    I can’t say that I blame him. Right now the Yankees are taking a hit for something that Alex did 6 years ago.

  21. NO HYPE February 17th, 2009 at 9:49 pm

    Cash sounds like a big dildo calling A-Rod an asset. He is a HUMAN BEING.

  22. pat February 17th, 2009 at 9:51 pm

    SA

    I think the somewaht bald guy is Ransom.

  23. Big Joe February 17th, 2009 at 9:51 pm

    No Hype – are you an authority on the sound of those things?

    (Kidding of course)

  24. Doreen February 17th, 2009 at 9:53 pm

    I can’t blame Cashman for feeling that way.

  25. NO HYPE February 17th, 2009 at 9:54 pm

    lol good one

  26. Rob NY -- 2009 The Road to Redemption February 17th, 2009 at 9:54 pm

    When the reporter asked A-Rod the patented “what about the children?” question could anybody help but think…. http://media.pegasusnews.com/i.....y_t630.jpg

  27. pat February 17th, 2009 at 9:55 pm

    I may not blame Cashman for feeling that way but not sure it was smart to express it to the media.

  28. Bob(The Original) February 17th, 2009 at 9:55 pm

    An asset? Brrrrrr.

    ——————-

    I like it. We need a GM who is cold, calculated, and emotionally unattached.

    Let the manager placate the egos, that’s not Cashman’s job.

  29. William Buckner February 17th, 2009 at 9:55 pm

    “Then we have Brian Cashman, who clearly would like to find a Wayback Machine, go back to 2007 and get rid of his third baseman.”

    I hear that, Joe Crede is available. Maybe we could have targeted Mike Lowell.

    The Asset will likely hit .300/40hr/120rbi. Where else to you find that production? Reminds me of Bill Parcells calling TO, The Receiver. Kind of stupid and counter productive.

  30. S.A.-The 2009 MLB season is almost here February 17th, 2009 at 9:56 pm

    Cashman must be frustrated by this entire mess. I also don’t blame him for how he is feeling right now.

  31. m February 17th, 2009 at 9:57 pm

    Pete,

    I heard a soundbyte on the radio from Cashman. He sounded, uh, irritated with A-rod.

    It saddens me to think that this could come down to a power struggle between Cashman and Alex, because that’s a battle that Cashman won’t win. ‘Tho I’d love to see if Cash could field 3B.

  32. you gotta have faith (bronx zoo 2009) February 17th, 2009 at 9:57 pm

    alright so how about some baseball?
    im really starting to like swisher a lot, heres a recent article:

    “I’m just happy to be over here,” Swisher said as he unpacked his belongings into his new locker – the one previously occupied by Jason Giambi. “Whatever my role is going to be, I’m excited for it. We’ll just see how it goes. Competition is always a good thing.”

    http://www.nydailynews.com/spo....._role.html

  33. ARoid's Cousin "No Speaka Dee Ingles" February 17th, 2009 at 9:57 pm

    This is kind of cool, some Lohud comments from 5/29/2006 regarding Bonds and 715. Sort of relevent with ARod’s eventual pursuit:

    http://www.blogger.com/comment.....Popup=true

    The old (2006) posts are funny because PA was always defending ARod against the reader comments. So when people today say Pete has always “had it out” against ARod, you can read for yourself how many times he stuck up for him over the years.

  34. Phil February 17th, 2009 at 9:58 pm

    Mike Lowell roided.

  35. Stacey February 17th, 2009 at 9:59 pm

    asset = asshat

  36. m February 17th, 2009 at 10:00 pm

    No Hype,

    I think you’re calling the wrong guy that. Alex screwed the Yankees!

  37. Angel - A tale told by idiots, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing February 17th, 2009 at 10:00 pm

    I’ve been posting here since about the beginning, I can’t say I recall that.

  38. pat February 17th, 2009 at 10:01 pm

    Alex apologized to Roberts, Couric, Hicks, the Yankees, his teammates and the fans.

    While he’s on such a roll, maybe he should save Bud a phone call and dial up Jose!

    http://www.google.com/hostedne.....Bm036E-9ew

  39. Lara08 February 17th, 2009 at 10:01 pm

    Wow, another thing people won’t be upset over.

    http://sports.espn.go.com/espnmag/story?id=3896270

  40. Big Joe February 17th, 2009 at 10:02 pm

    Something drilled into me by my fraternity……

    Excuses are tools of the incompetent use to build monuments to nothingness, those that excel at them seldom excel at anything else.

  41. you gotta have faith (bronx zoo 2009) February 17th, 2009 at 10:02 pm

    “asset = asshat”

    HAHA! :)

  42. Observer283 February 17th, 2009 at 10:02 pm

    Clearly, Cash-Money is upset. But I think another factor here is that Cashman is just a shrewd, facts-only executive. He probably thinks of Jeter as a wonderful asset with large intangible value. (Though with diminishing defensive returns).

    Would I want that in a coach or a teacher? No. Would I want that in a GM? Abso-freakin’-lutely. We can rest assured that Yankee personnel decisions are based on reason and evidence rather than raw emotion.

  43. mike February 17th, 2009 at 10:03 pm

    Arod hired his crisis manager so he could learn to not tell the whole truth like a Politician…Any Resemblances???

  44. m February 17th, 2009 at 10:04 pm

    Cashman’s not the only one in the front office to feel like this. Someone’s already been quoted as saying he’s just a worker. Collect his pay and go home.

    I know the fans love Alex, but some don’t understand how high maintenance this guy is. 9 more years, guys.

  45. Big Joe February 17th, 2009 at 10:05 pm

    Observer283 – something else execs like (in baseball and in real business) low maintenance high performers are at a premium and even the “stud” performers that are high maintenance will wear out there welcome when it takes too much time and effort…see Bonds, Barry clearly AROD is now in that group for Cash.

  46. Angel - A tale told by idiots, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing February 17th, 2009 at 10:05 pm

    I dont know who, but someone today posted that he sucks as a human being, or something along those lines.

    Personally, I think that’s a rather strong overreaction.

    I prefer to save the condemnations on someone being a terrible human being for those who actually deserve it. You know, like murderers who deliberately light fires that take the lives of 100s of women, men and children (including whole families, and millions of animals.

    Those are the kind of “humans” who could be said to suck at being human beings.

  47. jon February 17th, 2009 at 10:07 pm

    Haha yeah Pete because A-Rod tested positive in 2003, Cashman wants to get rid of the best player on the team.

  48. Angel - A tale told by idiots, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing February 17th, 2009 at 10:08 pm

    If he’s learned something from this, I’m not quite so worried about there being 9 more years though.

    I think I’ll first give him a chance to see if things are different with him, before I start worrying about the next 9 years.

  49. pat February 17th, 2009 at 10:08 pm

    m

    Or maybe Cash was the person in the front office who said that.

  50. Lara08 February 17th, 2009 at 10:08 pm

    I frankly don’t care how high maintenance he is. I am not feeling sorry for a bunch of rich people who can’t put stuff aside to get the job done (that some of them are paid millions to do).

    Meanwhile some of us have more important (and in some cases dangerous) jobs for a heck of a lot less money and we still manage to get the job done without liking our peers.

    Suck it up.

  51. ARoid's Cousin "No Speaka Dee Ingles" February 17th, 2009 at 10:09 pm

    Angel – A tale told by idiots, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing
    February 17th, 2009 at 10:00 pm
    I’ve been posting here since about the beginning, I can’t say I recall that.

    What you said about Bonds was perfectly reasonable. I thought it was interesting. I wonder if the comments are still there for when Sheff’s roid story broke, that would be fun to read too.

  52. Taylor February 17th, 2009 at 10:09 pm

    Looks like Cash took Financial Accounting 101. Of course, an accounting is not an expense, and I’m pretty sure that A-Rod’s $32M salary this year is an expense… In effect, he’s comparing A-Rod to, for example, the new Yankee Stadium, which is an asset and not an expense. OK, I’m done with nerdy accounting for now.

  53. you gotta have faith (bronx zoo 2009) February 17th, 2009 at 10:09 pm

    i forgive alex for what he did to himself years ago.

    however, right now i think the team we have is one of the best we’ve had in years, if alex goes down a spiraling free fall and drags the team down with him, THAT is something that I will not forgive him for.

  54. gayle February 17th, 2009 at 10:10 pm

    Forget Arod the BIG NEWS of the day is that partial season ticket relocations are in. If you are a patial season ticketholder log onto your account and go to your invoice and there it is.

    Finally after all the waiting they are here and I personally am very happy with my relocation after hearing all of the scary stories my seats are much better than I thought they would be.

  55. Taylor February 17th, 2009 at 10:10 pm

    I meant, an asset is not an expense.

  56. john February 17th, 2009 at 10:10 pm

    What I can’t stand is the hypocrisy.

    Roy “I’ve been cheated out of the game” Oswalt is so upset about A-Rod, yet, didn’t seem to mind Petite and Clemens pitching him and the Astros to the 2005 World Series. Where was his outrage then? Did he feel cheated enough to donate his playoff bonuses? I doubt it.

    Yes, A-Rod cheated. Many players have. Cheating has been a part of sports for a loooong time. We have hall of famers who cheated. See Gaylord Perry’s Wikipedia page: “Despite his admission of illegal pitches he was elected to the Hall of Fame in 1991 and was nominated as a finalist for the Major League Baseball All-Century Team.” So, an admitted cheater, who fessed up AFTER he retired is a hall of famer, but a guy who “came clean” during his career is not?

    Yes, he only told the truth, or a version of it, when he had to. How does that make him any different than any of us? How many people willingly let the skeletons out? Although, he should have declined the Katie Couric interview.

    Yes, he may have been a bit misleading with his stories, but he’s told a lot more truth than any of us probably expected, and at the end of the day took all of the blame.

    The steroid issue is bigger than A-Rod and bigger than baseball. There are plenty of steroid abusers in the NFL including Rodney Harrison of the Patriots. Or, how about the 2003 Panthers Super Bowl team? 3/5 of the starting O-Line and 6 players overall were caught. Think the NFC runner up Eagles are happy that they were cheated? What about actors who make 20 million per film who have admitted to HGH use?

    There are also plenty of larger issues in American sports. Look at how many guys are arrested in the NFL every year. That doesn’t seem to get enough press attention.

    Like I said, it’s the hypocrisy that gets me. From the media who are so appalled by A-Rod, to the players who are taking their shots at him when they may have directly benefitted from their own use or that of their team mates, to the public who willingly cheer on steroid abusers and felons every Sunday and watch pumped up actors in films for $12 a ticket.

    Am I happy he cheated. No, not at all. Am I surprised? At this point, no. Do I think that today solved anything. No. Are there going to be more superstar names coming out? Most likely. Will they be as scrutinized? probably not.

    You know who I truly feel bad for? Any minor league player who may have had their career stalled because they were above using steroids and their progress was blocked by someone who wasn’t.

  57. jonnycat February 17th, 2009 at 10:11 pm

    from the nytimes

    “This is Humpty-Dumpty,” General Manager Brian Cashman said. “We got to put him back together again. We got to put him back up on the wall.”

    Because Rodriguez’s words and actions are often choreographed, there was some speculation among members of the news media about the legitimacy of his emotional display toward his teammates. Several minutes after Rodriguez’s silence, he told his teammates he loved them and looked forward to an “amazing season.” The players offered no visible head nods or thumbs up to Rodriguez.

    Posada bolted about halfway through Rodriguez’s session. The Yankees were unsure why he left. None of the Yankees hung around to do interviews. Jeter, the Yankees’ captain, was emotionless and sat slumped in his chair. He will discuss Rodriguez on Wednesday, at which point he may still be emotionless.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02.....8team.html

  58. ARoid's Cousin "No Speaka Dee Ingles" February 17th, 2009 at 10:11 pm

    Stacey
    February 17th, 2009 at 9:59 pm
    asset = asshat

    That’s hilarious!! Go back and read Cash’s statement substituting asshat for asset. Like “…this is an asshat that is going through a crisis.” lol…

  59. YankeesLuv February 17th, 2009 at 10:12 pm

    I don’t blame Cash for feeling that way, but was it wise to tell the media perhaps not. Ehh it’s fine, doesn’t matter it’s time to move on. I think most of us just want to be over this and move forward.

  60. Taylor February 17th, 2009 at 10:12 pm

    Jesus Christ I can’t think. I meant an asset, not “an accounting” which doesn’t make sense.

  61. RMS February 17th, 2009 at 10:12 pm

    Cashman gave his honest opinion. He certainly didn’t sugarcoat anything.

  62. you gotta have faith (bronx zoo 2009) February 17th, 2009 at 10:15 pm

    jonnycat,

    lmao what does the media expect them to do?? blow kisses at arod?

  63. KO February 17th, 2009 at 10:15 pm

    Yawn, Yawn, Yawn I can’t wait until the season starts so our starting rotation can shut everyone up that is if consistently winning game after game shuts people up, but knowing the media and the ridiculous bias against A-Rod the Q’s will probably never stop…. I can’t believe some people STILL AREN’T SATISFIED. This man is not on trial. He has said a thousand times more and provided more details than ANYONE who has confessed. Hell, he didn’t even have to come clean. None of this is mandatory. He has come almost completely clean… I never thought in a million years A-Rod would reveal this much. Anyone still not happy should just go sulk by their bitter, jealous selves…. And you know, a GM should probably have a better working relationship with his players. Referring to them as “assets” is probably not the best way to go, nor is it particularly normal

  64. jennifer February 17th, 2009 at 10:16 pm

    Interesting that Jorge bolted. Wonder why.

  65. wood is good February 17th, 2009 at 10:16 pm

    Gayle! HERE HERE! That’s my big news too–can’t believe I got 212! I’m totally happy.

    Except for this A-Rod/steriod business, that is….

  66. Angel - A tale told by idiots, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing February 17th, 2009 at 10:17 pm

    lol, I’m actually starting to wonder if I really need to go on record and say that I think what Alex did was cheating – and the worst form of cheating because he cheated himself more than anyone else. Because apparently I haven’t said it enough. I thought that went without saying. Go figure.

    My objection to the whole Barry Bonds home run chase, was ESPN’s sycophantic in-your-face coverage of it. I believe that’s what was being discussed there. LOL, even Pete sounded disgusted by it. It was downright nauseous. Much the same way as their coverage of this has been. Don’t worry, I’m sure given today, we won’t be subjected to same coverage if A-Rod should come close. That should be some comfort to you.

  67. Bob(The Original) February 17th, 2009 at 10:18 pm

    Maybe Jorge had some bad egg sald for lunch and had to make a run for the can.

    Who knows?

    Who cares?

    Don’t people ever get tired of trying to read something into every minute thing that happens?

  68. jennifer February 17th, 2009 at 10:18 pm

    gayle is it all partial plans? A friend has a Sunday plan, are they part of the group contacted?

  69. GreenBeret7 February 17th, 2009 at 10:19 pm

    Players are assets, just like team equipment. On taxes paid, every year of the contract, that asset is devalued, just like a car, a typewriter or the team plane.

  70. gayle February 17th, 2009 at 10:20 pm

    Wood I got 232B (mainlevel)i was sure i would be in the last row way upper deck and they actuyally placed me quite near where my old seats were just the level up as where my seats were were not availabkle for partial this year

  71. Clare February 17th, 2009 at 10:21 pm

    gayle,

    Mine isn’t in yet. :( But thanks for letting us know to start checking.

  72. ARoid's Cousin "No Speaka Dee Ingles" February 17th, 2009 at 10:22 pm

    Angel – ESPN has no shame, they sold their soul long ago. I’m sure that if/when ARod passes Bonds, the ESPN coverage will be the same, if not more over the top, as it was for Bonds.

    Never underestimate the depths that ESPN will sink.

  73. Angel - A tale told by idiots, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing February 17th, 2009 at 10:22 pm

    Maybe should also go and dig up the comments around the time Barry’s and Giambi’s grand jury testimony was leaked. You know, just because you seem to have so much time to stalk my history through these boards. Unlike you, I’ve always been consistent with the name I’ve used – so have it – there should be plenty of ammunition out there for you.

    Sometimes I really wish there was a rolling eyes icon, lol.

  74. Lara08 February 17th, 2009 at 10:22 pm

    Well Cashman and the Yankees had a steroid problem before A-Rod even got to Texas, let alone New York. So ooops.

  75. jennifer February 17th, 2009 at 10:23 pm

    Lara08

    Be clear EVERY TEAM in baseball had a problem. Not just the Yankees, NOT just the Rangers.

  76. m February 17th, 2009 at 10:24 pm

    Wouldn’t you pissed if you went and bought what you thought was the rarest canary diamiond in the world, and it turned out to be paste? When you didn’t want to buy it, but -Hank- your wife made you buy it?

  77. ARoid's Cousin "No Speaka Dee Ingles" February 17th, 2009 at 10:25 pm

    Who knows, it could become a rallying cry for the 2009 season: “Salvage that asset!”

  78. Bob(The Original) February 17th, 2009 at 10:26 pm

    m
    February 17th, 2009 at 10:24 pm
    Wouldn’t you pissed if you went and bought what you thought was the rarest canary diamiond in the world, and it turned out to be paste? When you didn’t want to buy it, but Hank your wife made you buy it?

    —————————

    Not if it still got me laid.

  79. E-Man February 17th, 2009 at 10:27 pm

    “Wouldn’t you pissed if you went and bought what you thought was the rarest canary diamiond in the world, and it turned out to be paste? When you didn’t want to buy it, but Hank your wife made you buy it?”

    No because I’d have a kagillion dollars and it wouldn’t really matter.

  80. ARoid's Cousin "No Speaka Dee Ingles" February 17th, 2009 at 10:27 pm

    Angel – I wasn’t attacking you at all. I said your comments about Bonds were right on. Sorry.

  81. Lara08 February 17th, 2009 at 10:27 pm

    You’re preaching to the choir Jennifer. And furthermore baseball had a problem with steroids before the current steroid users were born.

    I was specific with the Yankees because I’m just saying Cashman and the Yankees didn’t just acquire this problem because of their 3B asset.

    Those dynasty years were tainted. Everyone wants to name specific players and records and go silent on team accomplishments. Everything has an asterisk by it so people need to get off their high horses. According to good old Bud Cash was clueless as to the problem.

  82. Angel - A tale told by idiots, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing February 17th, 2009 at 10:27 pm

    Angel – ESPN has no shame, they sold their soul long ago. I’m sure that if/when ARod passes Bonds, the ESPN coverage will be the same, if not more over the top, as it was for Bonds.

    Never underestimate the depths that ESPN will sink.
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Then they’ll really look like hypocrites, won’t they?

    Especially, after all the hand-wringing and angst thats gone on at that network in particular, the last week and half.

  83. Brad Pitt's better-looking brother February 17th, 2009 at 10:27 pm

    said like a guy that remembered flowers on Valentine’s Day, Bob. LOL!!!!

  84. Angel - A tale told by idiots, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing February 17th, 2009 at 10:29 pm

    Oh sorry. I’m clearly a little too touchy these days. I will direct the rolling eyes icon at myself now.

    My apologies.

  85. gayle February 17th, 2009 at 10:29 pm

    Jennifer I dont know I had the old Saturday D plan with seniority 2004 so not sure how they are sending them out all I know is that I got it and paid it and al is good in my world right now.

  86. Tarheelyank February 17th, 2009 at 10:30 pm

    That statement was a mistake by Cashman. No reason for it. But I do wonder what the question was?

    First the Torre no need to read the book quote, now this “salvage this asset” quote. This is a side of Cashman I dont ever remember reading about. He must be real angry about all of this.

  87. m February 17th, 2009 at 10:31 pm

    Okay, my canary diamond question and guess the Yankee game were the funnest part of the day.

  88. Bob(The Original) February 17th, 2009 at 10:31 pm

    Hey look, another memeber of the Patriots championship teams used steroids.

    Where’s all the outrage?

    Cheating coaches and cheating players and still A-Rod is the worst person in the world.

  89. jennifer February 17th, 2009 at 10:32 pm

    I just sent a text, so hopefully I’ll hear something since I go to a few games a year from that plan. fingers crossed.

  90. Angel - A tale told by idiots, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing February 17th, 2009 at 10:32 pm

    Did we end up getting all the names of the faces in the Yankee pictures?

  91. jennifer February 17th, 2009 at 10:33 pm

    bob- Did you hear Johnny said something like it isn’t the worst thing in the world, so the reporter asked whats worse. He goes I don’t know murder. :lol: well Kay was killing him today.

  92. pat February 17th, 2009 at 10:33 pm

    Angel

    You can do rolling eyes. Colon roll colon no spaces between :roll:

  93. jennifer February 17th, 2009 at 10:33 pm

    angel- no Pete ignored our request. :mad: :lol:

  94. Al from BK February 17th, 2009 at 10:33 pm

    This anger from Cash is just temporary nobody is gonna be mad at A-Rod when hes hitting his 800th HR and making the Yankees tons of money. This righteous outrage will pass and eventually baseball will be played. Any Yankee fan who says they would prefer Joe Crede or Pedro Feliz playing 3B is flat out lying.

  95. Boston Dave February 17th, 2009 at 10:34 pm

    fact:

    Alex has taken more responsibility for using steroids than ANY other MLB player.

    We all know that hundreds of players used. Alex is taking accountability for it.

    Yet, rather than getting credit for this, he is ripped and hated and blamed.

    Either blame most/all of baseball or blame nobody. It is cowardly to blame Alex for everything as is being done. Cowardly.

  96. Bob(The Original) February 17th, 2009 at 10:35 pm

    jennifer
    February 17th, 2009 at 10:33 pm
    bob- Did you hear Johnny said something like it isn’t the worst thing in the world, so the reporter asked whats worse. He goes I don’t know murder. well Kay was killing him today.

    ——————–

    Good answer Johnny!

    I listened to Kay for about 5 minutes today and shut it off. I couldn’t stand listening to him and the rest of the talking heads looking for things to pick apart and scream and moan about.

  97. jennifer February 17th, 2009 at 10:37 pm

    Here is the exact quote

    Johnny Damon speaks to the media today in Tampa following A-Rod’s presser: “Yeah he did some bad things. He took a steroid. Definitely do not condone that, at all, but there could be a lot worse things he could have been doing out there. He hasn’t done a crime. So there’s worse things that he could have done but you know I’ve known Alex since he was 15 and he’s always been super nice to me and so I’m going to support him and try help him through this time. (Reporter: Johnny, what would have been worse?) Murdering someone… There’s plenty of things that could be worse than what he did. (Reporter: Was A-Rod cheating?) For part time in his career, perhaps, but you know what, the pitchers that were facing him too at the time were doing it.”

  98. declineoptions07 February 17th, 2009 at 10:37 pm

    So an offseason of being duped or misreading what Cashman told u when it came to potential acquisitions wasn’t enough? You want to continue to try to interpret what he means when he says certain things? How about the expression “alex is an asset to the team, an asset within the organization”….if he said it that way in say 2007 would the term “asset” be oh so frigid as you want to claim it is here? All you journalists would be so much better off sticking to the facts rather than constantly trying to squeeze drama out of nothing. If Cashman said “oh, arod, yeah, I didn’t pat that asset on the back like pete said I should have, because I hate the guy, he’s a total nightmare and I want to trade him for a bag of balls, but I can’t”, would it really matter? Does Cashman have to be nice to arod for the team to win? Do they even have to know each other well enough to have opinions of each other? Does any Yankee fan genuinely care whether cashman and arod spend the holidays together or drink together on the weekends? I guess, in general, what I am trying to figure out is, what is the journalistic merit of this soap opera style garbage?

  99. Clare February 17th, 2009 at 10:37 pm

    Boston Dave,

    I completely agree. Let’s call it the “ARod effect.” Whatever he does is wrong, phony, or not enough.

  100. DT February 17th, 2009 at 10:38 pm

    I find it mildly astonishing that some of the media will be running around trying to find the Arod “cousin”, but the person who illegally leaked information to tarnish an anonymous player is not on their radar.

  101. jennifer February 17th, 2009 at 10:39 pm

    dt- So true so true.

  102. Bob(The Original) February 17th, 2009 at 10:42 pm

    DT
    February 17th, 2009 at 10:38 pm
    I find it mildly astonishing that some of the media will be running around trying to find the Arod “cousin”, but the person who illegally leaked information to tarnish an anonymous player is not on their radar.

    —————————-

    And even funnier is the fact that they think if they find him he’ll even talk to them.

    Like he doesn’t know who’s buttering his bread.

    Chances are A-Rod’s got him set up somewhere in the Bahamas with a few of those 18 year olds.

  103. randy l February 17th, 2009 at 10:42 pm

    part of the problem with complex issues is when you get really stupid analyses from supposedly smart reporters like jason stark:

    “Nine days ago, there was no mention of any other “substances.” But on Tuesday, Rodriguez admitted to ESPN’s Hannah Storm that he also used to take Ripped Fuel, which was later banned — at least in its original ephedra-based form — by both baseball and the FDA.”

    ephedrine to ephedra is caffeine to coffee.

    pseudo ephedrine was sudafed. there was nothing else in sudafed.

    so the FDA banned the herb, but let the active ingredient be sold as the product sudafed.

    think people think. it would be like banning coffee, but letting the active ingredient be sold still.

    so stark is trying to say arod did something bad by ingesting a product that had the active ingredient in it that makes up sudafed.

    there is a baby dose for sudafed.

    if ephedra is bad, then sudafed is too.

    they were the same thing.

    if stark is going to rip arod for ripped fuel he really needs to rip everyone who has ever taken sudafed too. sudafed and ripped fuel had the same active ingredient- ephedrine.

    the fact the sudafed/ephedra link has never been publicized shows how little the major media thinks.

  104. Angel - A tale told by idiots, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing February 17th, 2009 at 10:42 pm

    Oh, thanks Pat. :roll:

    Yay!

    Last name I saw we got was Mike Harkey, the bullpen coach.

  105. DMan77 February 17th, 2009 at 10:43 pm

    So, we can start focusing on baseball now right?…. Right?

    Wishful thinking I guess.

  106. you gotta have faith (bronx zoo 2009) February 17th, 2009 at 10:43 pm

    seriously, in any way do i not think what arod did was right, but forgive me if im not going to nail him to a freaken cross and crucify him.

    johnny is right.

    Angel,
    for the most part i think we did, in the beginning of this post i put a link up with a close of the players, it helped a bit.

  107. jennifer February 17th, 2009 at 10:44 pm

    So anyway tomorrow is the first full day workout.

  108. RMS February 17th, 2009 at 10:47 pm

    Toni

    Lighten up.

  109. Phl Parcells February 17th, 2009 at 10:48 pm

    Toni-

    you have to realize, today was payback for many times ARod has been nasty, rude, and unprofessional with reporters. It’s only human. Wouldn’t anyone be short with a colleague who was miserable at the office.

  110. Mark in Tampa February 17th, 2009 at 10:49 pm

    A partial list of places you could buy Ripped Fuel prior to the FDA ban @2001:
    GNC
    WalMart
    Military PX/BX stores
    Walgreens, Eckerd, and CVS
    The vitamin section of just about every supermarket

    Getting on Arod, or anybody for taking this is just somebody trying to invent a story.

  111. Angel - A tale told by idiots, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing February 17th, 2009 at 10:49 pm

    Reading Jason Stark is eventually going to be proven to lead to premature ulcers and anger management issues directed without prejudice towards computer monitors and keyboards.

    Refrain for the good of your future health and that of your computer, RandyI.

    Just say NO!!

  112. PittsburghYankeeFan February 17th, 2009 at 10:50 pm

    Pete, excellent blog, I’ve been reading it ever since you started it. I disagree with you about ARod on many fronts, and I can’t like the Patriots (since I live in Pittsburgh), but your blog is clearly the tops. Every serious Yankee fan that I know (I grew up in Southern CT) knows about it and reads it. NYYFans is a close second, and I know many of the people that post there post here.
    I, like every Yankee fan, is really primed for this season. Maybe we can finally redeem 2004, the ALCS that will live in infamy.
    I like the idea of a steroid free blog for 24 hours—could we make it 2 weeks or more?

    Could we talk about illegal filming of NFL linemen at the line of scrimmage during games? Where’s the outrage? (OK, that was a low blow…)

  113. Angel - A tale told by idiots, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing February 17th, 2009 at 10:52 pm

    I thought “find the Yankee” was a good game. It took the focus of steroids etc. around here for a while.

  114. Angel - A tale told by idiots, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing February 17th, 2009 at 10:52 pm

    off* I meant

    Ack!

  115. S.A.-The 2009 MLB season is almost here February 17th, 2009 at 10:53 pm

    DT February 17th, 2009 at 10:38 pm

    I find it mildly astonishing that some of the media will be running around trying to find the Arod “cousin”, but the person who illegally leaked information to tarnish an anonymous player is not on their radar.

    =========================================

    Yup. Pretty pathetic

  116. Phl Parcells February 17th, 2009 at 10:54 pm

    randy l -

    sudafed is also abused to produce meth.

  117. E-Man February 17th, 2009 at 10:57 pm

    I agree. It’s pretty shocking that some in the media would search for a person to verify a story that has already been changed 2 times by the author.

    Why can’t they just shut up and take him at his word like they did with Bush on the lead up to Iraq?

  118. The Monarch February 17th, 2009 at 10:57 pm

    Toni,
    All I can say is, “Lighten up, Francis.”

    As for Cashman…yikes! Why not just send a dead fish to A-Rod, in a mini Yankee Jersey with the number 13?

  119. Angel - A tale told by idiots, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing February 17th, 2009 at 10:59 pm

    “Why can’t they just shut up and take him at his word like they did with Bush on the lead up to Iraq?”

    Or Clinton.

    You know, in the interest of fairness, as long as we’re playing “that” card.

    Or “I’m not a criminal!” if we want to go back further still…

  120. Angel - A tale told by idiots, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing February 17th, 2009 at 10:59 pm

    I thought all the kids had gone to bed.

  121. Drive 4-5 February 17th, 2009 at 11:00 pm

    gayle
    February 17th, 2009 at 10:29 pm
    “Jennifer I dont know I had the old Saturday D plan with seniority 2004 so not sure how they are sending them out all I know is that I got it and paid it and al is good in my world right now.”

    gayle, you already have your tix??? I have the same plan with a 2005 seniority date and havent heard a word.On the website it says they havent started partial plan relocations yet.The Yanks’ communication has been poor.

  122. GreenBeret7 February 17th, 2009 at 11:01 pm

    Phl Parcells
    February 17th, 2009 at 10:48 pm
    Toni-

    you have to realize, today was payback for many times ARod has been nasty, rude, and unprofessional with reporters. It’s only human. Wouldn’t anyone be short with a colleague who was miserable at the office.

    ————————————————————

    Can’t figure why anybody get annoyed with writers that follow you around when with your family and intrude on their private time, taking pictures of you doing what 500 other people are doing in Central Park…sun bathing. So, let’s see…they shouldn’t sun-bath in Central Park because they’re exhibitionists and want the attention, so, instead, they go use tanning booths, which makes them frauds.

    If it were me, I’d get a restraining order on every jerk that intruded on my privacy. I’d also refuse to sit for questions and interviews of the vultures that makes snide remarks about me or my family and personal life.

  123. #9 February 17th, 2009 at 11:02 pm

    At least there was no controversial questions about Torre’s book today…

  124. gayle February 17th, 2009 at 11:02 pm

    Drive

    log onto your yankees account on yankees.com. then view invoices. Mine was there the only reason i knew to look was that someone on Yankee insider message board got theres tonight as well.

  125. Lara08 February 17th, 2009 at 11:04 pm

    Of course they will keep investigating A-Rod. Its fun, they want to catch him in more lies and frankly, its easier to piggyback off someone else’s work. Heaven forbid they go do some real investigating starting from scratch. Since we’re all about the truth, why not focus on some of these guys still hiding in the weeds? When was the last steroid-free decade in baseball? Truly investigate and educate and don’t just beat down on one person.

    Or try to find out the use of steroids in other sports. We see another Patriot player has been linked to steroids. How many were there? Just how many is it going on in the NFL?

  126. Betsy February 17th, 2009 at 11:04 pm

    Cash has a right to be angry, but it’s interesting that the players have publicly supported Alex while he has not. I really don’t think that’s the right tact at all – be angry with Alex in private. Taking it public is stupid……and I see that the NY Times is trying to spin the support that the Yankees gave Alex in a negative way. Oh well – I’m not interested in what the mediots have to say.

  127. Phl Parcells February 17th, 2009 at 11:05 pm

    Joe Torre, who?

  128. GreenBeret7 February 17th, 2009 at 11:05 pm

    Angel – A tale told by idiots, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing
    February 17th, 2009 at 10:59 pm
    “Why can’t they just shut up and take him at his word like they did with Bush on the lead up to Iraq?”

    Or Clinton.

    You know, in the interest of fairness, as long as we’re playing “that” card.

    Or “I’m not a criminal!” if we want to go back further still…

    ————————————————————

    Or, The Gulf Of Tonkin non-incident.

  129. JP February 17th, 2009 at 11:06 pm

    I’m kind of over Cashman’s whole “tough guy” act. He talks in circles, never says anything, and he’s made crappy decision after crappy decision.

    Why are we so excited to have him again?

  130. Phl Parcells February 17th, 2009 at 11:07 pm

    Lara08-

    really, the Yanks should have just stonewalled like Bill Belichick’s famous pressers.

  131. Betsy February 17th, 2009 at 11:07 pm

    Cash, sheesh – just give the mediots more meat to chew on. What a dumb thing to say – an asset, so Alex isn’t even human. That’s nice, Brian.

  132. Betsy February 17th, 2009 at 11:07 pm

    Cash, sheesh – just give the mediots more meat to chew on. What a dumb thing to say – an asset, so Alex isn’t even human. That’s nice, Brian.

  133. SVS Yank Fan February 17th, 2009 at 11:08 pm

    This is the problem. Everyone from the owners to the GM to the media to the fans views these guys as ‘assets.’ Cashman and others can ride on their high horse, but the reality is that he, along with all of us, helps create guys like A-Rod.

    Everyone wants to blame A-Rod for using steroids, acting like they would have done differently in his shoes. Look, the guy’s had huge contracts and a lot of pressure to perform and be the best in the game. The rest of us cheat all of the time to get ahead, and for a lot less money and with a lot less at stake. How many of you cheat on your taxes to save $100? How many of you in the media do unethical things to get ahead (that’s right Pete, you argued that it was a ‘responsibility’ of Selena Roberts to further invade A-Rod’s privacy because four ‘unnamed sources’ brought her this report and she ‘had’ to publish it–that’s the biggest bunch of ******** I’ve heard in my life).

    The reality is that the media, the GMs, baseball owners and Bud Selig, et al, are as responsible for this as anyone, including A-Rod. All of us, and especially New Yorkers, love to have a villain. It makes us look good and allows us to hide our own faults, errors, unethical behavior, etc.

    I’ll be honest with you, I had a hard time holding back tears when A-Rod spoke. Here’s a guy who comes from poverty who thinks his only worth in life is to be good at baseball. That’s why he tried to get ahead by cheating. It’s not that hard to figure out. That’s also why he falls for crap like kaballa–he’s looking for something more in life than what fans and media have always told him were important. We should feel sorry for A-Rod; he’s bearing the reproach of our own shortcomings. He gives us someone to demonize rather than taking a serious look at ourselves. Shame on all of us!

  134. Chris February 17th, 2009 at 11:08 pm

    I think Cash is more pissed that A-rod didn’t come to the yankees himself when he knew this was all going down. Instead he as 5 life coaches who steer him around like a puppet. If you want to prove your commitment to the team family then you need to talk to them first when something comes up.

  135. m February 17th, 2009 at 11:09 pm

    i chuckle sometimes at the people who can’t stand to hear anything bad about A-rod. And then others are trying to explain away A-rod’s transgressions. As if you can justify 3 years of using a substance that you had to sneak in the United States. If there was nothing wrong with it, then everyone would be doing it and it wouldn’t have to be hidden.

  136. Phl Parcells February 17th, 2009 at 11:09 pm

    GreenBeret7 February 17th, 2009 at 11:05 pm

    Angel – A tale told by idiots, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing
    February 17th, 2009 at 10:59 pm
    “Why can’t they just shut up and take him at his word like they did with Bush on the lead up to Iraq?”

    Or Clinton.

    You know, in the interest of fairness, as long as we’re playing “that” card.

    Or “I’m not a criminal!” if we want to go back further still…
    ——————————————————————————————
    Or, The Gulf Of Tonkin non-incident.

    ************

    or, when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor.

  137. Jeet Skeet February 17th, 2009 at 11:10 pm

    its sad that the media is so hooked on this story… He said way more than anyone else did..more than he had to. He is apologizing for it and it should be over with. There are way bigger things going on in this world than arod taking a steroid. how bout focusing on the economic crisis thats going on. It is as if the whole media forgot about that problem in the world just to pick apart arod and figure out if he is sincere or not. And yea you are not a boy at 25 or 26 but you still do some dumb sh*t. Fact of the matter is at the end of the day you still need to be able to hit the ball..and no steroid can help that.

  138. E-Man February 17th, 2009 at 11:10 pm

    Excuse me for not feeling sorry for a guy who makes near 30 million dollars a year to play a kids game in the summer.

  139. randy l February 17th, 2009 at 11:11 pm

    “sudafed is also abused to produce meth.”

    phil-

    that’s why they finally took it out of most sudafed products just recently.

    it was the tragic death of the oriole pitcher ,Steve Bechler, who had ephedrine in his system that led to ephedra’s ban.

    the problem is he had the equivalent of two sudafeds in his system. congress over reacted and didn’t get it right.

    or they had it right and should have banned sudafed too.

    they didn’t .

    on a side note if cashman took an old fashioned sudafed ( with pseudpephedrine) and had a cup of coffee, he’d be mixing caffeine and pseudoephedrine and would probably feel pretty peppy and wouldn’t be so depressed.

    he’d also be on drugs according to jason stark.

    the weird thing was before steve bechler’s death sudafed was a banned substance for the olympics. after congress and the FDA banned ephedra, ironically sudafed suddenly become a legal olympic over the counter remedy to take. you can’t make this stuff up.

  140. GreenBeret7 February 17th, 2009 at 11:15 pm

    Phl Parcells
    February 17th, 2009 at 11:09 pm
    GreenBeret7 February 17th, 2009 at 11:05 pm

    Angel – A tale told by idiots, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing
    February 17th, 2009 at 10:59 pm
    “Why can’t they just shut up and take him at his word like they did with Bush on the lead up to Iraq?”

    Or Clinton.

    You know, in the interest of fairness, as long as we’re playing “that” card.

    Or “I’m not a criminal!” if we want to go back further still…
    ——————————————————————————————
    Or, The Gulf Of Tonkin non-incident.

    ************

    ***or, when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor***

    ————————————————————

    Well, yeah…that goes without saying.

  141. Phl Parcells February 17th, 2009 at 11:16 pm

    randy l-

    you work in medicine or chemistry (pharma)?

    just curious.

  142. randy l February 17th, 2009 at 11:16 pm

    gb7-

    i learned something from arod today.

    from now on , it’s not my fault , it’s one of those damn 67 cousins that i have that got me in trouble. especially when i was young. and stupid. and had a really good time :)

  143. Lara08 February 17th, 2009 at 11:16 pm

    Who has tried to defend A-Rod using steroids? There is a difference between defending and simply not acting like he lured a 3 year old into the back of a white van with a piece of candy.

    He screwed up, he has to pay for it, etc. Don’t distort things because we choose not to act like the man killed someone.

  144. DT February 17th, 2009 at 11:18 pm

    I don’t see any problem with the reactions from Girardi and Cashman.

    Baseball is a game and a business.

    The further you are from the field, the more you realize it’s a business. Girardi is on the field. Cashman is in the front office.

    The Yankees are moving into a new stadium. They have a lot of money invested not only in Arod but in the stadium as well. Arod was signed to be the “face of their franchise” for 10 years.

    The Yanks planned on selling plenty of Arod jerseys as the home run marks fell. Those bonuses paid to Arod were tied into marketing opportunities. Who wants to buy a limited edition Arod signed 661 or 715 ball now?

    The YES network is a cash cow too. Ironically they pulled Arod’s Yankeeography this week and put on Yogi Berra.
    Coincidence? Um no…..

    Humpty Dumpty is an asset, unfortunately for the business side of the Yankees he’s falling faster than my 401K.

  145. Jeet Skeet February 17th, 2009 at 11:19 pm

    and i think cashman is wrong… dont get me wrong he should be upset but as the GM you have to keep that to yourself.

  146. GreenBeret7 February 17th, 2009 at 11:19 pm

    randy l
    February 17th, 2009 at 11:16 pm
    gb7-

    i learned something from arod today.

    from now on , it’s not my fault , it’s one of those damn 67 cousins that i have that got me in trouble. especially when i was young. and stupid. and had a really good time

    ————————————————————

    Do you have enough time left in your life to weed out the bad apple?

  147. Clare February 17th, 2009 at 11:19 pm

    m,

    That’s the point, everyone was doing it. Sheffield said 6-7 guys on a team, Caminiti and Canseco said 50% and 80% (forget which said which).

    I am not condoning what he did, but I do think he gets props for not pointing fingers at the rest of the guys that were doing the exact same thing, but don’t have Selena Roberts digging into their lives to write a book.

  148. Josh February 17th, 2009 at 11:20 pm

    I have to say that Cashman was an idiot to say those things. Stuck with one of the greatest players in MLB history. Poor Yankees. If the Yankees arent happy to have him, they are crazy. Let us not forget some of the bonehead moves Cashman has made, aka Pavano and Igawa as most recents.

  149. Angel - A tale told by idiots, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing February 17th, 2009 at 11:20 pm

    or, when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor.

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    LOL – those recalcitrant Germans!!

  150. Lara08 February 17th, 2009 at 11:20 pm

    That YES stunt. Fake. I guess they will blur out his face or show a black screen with that annoying “this is a test” sound when he is up to bat during games.

  151. Lara08 February 17th, 2009 at 11:22 pm

    As much as fans and purists don’t want to admit it, its a business for those on the field too.

  152. Clare February 17th, 2009 at 11:23 pm

    DT,

    I disagree about the last point. I think most fans are ready to move on, and I don’t think ARod is going to cost the Yankees money at all in the long run. Meaning I don’t think people will stay away from games, buy less merchandise, etc. Obviously he hurt his individual marketability, and I doubt he’ll pick up any new sponsors anytime soon, but I don’t think he’ll effect the Yankees’ bottom line in any negative way.

  153. Angel - A tale told by idiots, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing February 17th, 2009 at 11:23 pm

    I wouldn’t put it past them. MK sounds well and truly ticked off these days, lol.

  154. Phl Parcells February 17th, 2009 at 11:24 pm

    The YES network is a cash cow too. Ironically they pulled Arod’s Yankeeography this week and put on Yogi Berra.
    Coincidence? Um no…..

    **************************************

    as if Yogi ever used “greenie” or pain killers.

  155. S.A.-The 2009 MLB season is almost here February 17th, 2009 at 11:26 pm

    So, tomorrow is Jeter day..
    We might need to play another “who is that Yankee” game tomorrow.

  156. Brian from PA February 17th, 2009 at 11:28 pm

    so where do we go from here?

    I’m tired of the drama of the PED era falling on the shoulders of the Yankees and we as fans having to put our tails between our legs over it. Its crap. My mom was telling me about something, i believe she saw it in a Philadelphia newspaper or something, that was like a sports trivia quiz. They asked the question “which MLB team has had the most players test positive for steroids?” and the answer was the New York Yankees. It just hurts to see. Even if these players who came to the Yankees after the fact, or whose names came out after they left the Yankees, all anyone wants to do is refer to them as Yankees. It sucks, from the point of view as fan.

    I feel like people want to further belittle the most recent dynasty, since it happened in the steroid era. But even if Pettitte was outed, they can’t take those years away from us. I haven’t seen Jeter’s name pop up linked to steroids. No Posada, no Mo, David Cone, Tino Martinez, Paul O’Neill, Bernie Williams, Scott Brosius… I won’t let the heat of this tainted era fall on the Yankees. I don’t know if anyone else has been hearing about or seeing it as much as me, but I live in the Philly area, and Philly fans have a huge inferiority complex with NYC. So I can’t go a day without some scumbag talking about how phony the Yanks are and how they’re the poster boys or the PED era. It’s bull, and I don’t want to hear it.

    Sorry for ranting. I just can’t wait for this PED s*** to be over with. If it ever will be in my lifetime.

  157. stuart February 17th, 2009 at 11:28 pm

    yeah since we are talking about honesty please inform me what giambi, mcgwire, palmiero, and any other player caught so far admitted to?

    the answer is vague mumble jumbo..

    yeah arod came kicking and screaming but he reveaked more then any other player has so far.

    listen to the talking clowns discuss this over and over and over..

  158. Clare February 17th, 2009 at 11:29 pm

    S.A.,

    I just saw that Jeter is holding a press conference tomorrow at 1 pm. Why would he need a formal press conference to say the same thing all his teammates have been saying for a week?

  159. YankeeDiva February 17th, 2009 at 11:29 pm

    “Excuse me for not feeling sorry for a guy who makes near 30 million dollars a year to play a kids game in the summer.”

    “We’ve invested in him as an asset. And because of that, this is an asset that is going through a crisis. So we’ll do everything we can to protect that asset and support that asset and try to salvage that asset.”

    Wow…..cuz if you have money and you are an ‘asset’ to someone then you have all the right things in life!!!

    This is why I can’t find it to hate Arod (disappointed big time but hate no)….no one has any problems with him as long as he is making money for them. That’s no way for anyone to live….if you haven’t figured out by now money doesn’t by the truly important things.

    Least we not forget there are 103 other “cheaters” out there not one or two but 103, who have yet to confess to anything.

    Why is it I’m ‘suppose’ to hate Arod and treat him like crap when there are at least 103 others out there who did the same thing?

    Why am I ‘suppose’ to ignore the fact that the information was illegally obtained…if not by Roberts by someone she knows….they committed a crime and no one has blinked an eye….why are they any better than Arod?

  160. Thomas February 17th, 2009 at 11:30 pm

    Cashman will shut up when A-Rod starts hitting HRs & driving runs in.

  161. RSM February 17th, 2009 at 11:31 pm

    Brian,
    Just remind the Philly losers that Lenny Dykstra was juicing when AROD was still in junior high!

  162. Angel - A tale told by idiots, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing February 17th, 2009 at 11:33 pm

    So, tomorrow is Jeter day..
    We might need to play another “who is that Yankee” game tomorrow.

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    I have been busy photoshopping a Where’s Waldo? hat onto one of the team members from todays pictures.

    Yes, there are other more constructive things I should be doing, lol.

  163. GreenBeret7 February 17th, 2009 at 11:34 pm

    Clare
    February 17th, 2009 at 11:29 pm
    S.A.,

    I just saw that Jeter is holding a press conference tomorrow at 1 pm. Why would he need a formal press conference to say the same thing all his teammates have been saying for a week?

    ————————————————————

    Jeter will make a statement, but the rest is his annual “State Of The Yankee Union Address”.

  164. randy l February 17th, 2009 at 11:34 pm

    “randy l-
    you work in medicine or chemistry (pharma)?
    just curious.”

    no, i was using the supplement bechler was at the time so i followed the proceedings closely. it was called xenadrine and was the most popular sports supplement in america.

    i had several serious concussions that i was hospitalized when i was a kid . this supposedly makes blood flow to the prefrontal cortex run slower. all concussions do permanent brain damage ( no comment gb7 )
    the way i understood it xenadrine had a mixture of supplements in it that are known for increasing blood flow to the prefrontal cortex.

    i liked it( felt more alert) so i wasn’t too happy when they banned it, but i just researched it and bought sudafed, a coffee and took a few neurotransmitters like tyrosine and got the same effect.

    so much for congress banning xenadrine.

    i do want to say i don’t take any prescription pharmaceuticals and basically like natural supplements. i read a lot before i take something.

  165. S.A.-The 2009 MLB season is almost here February 17th, 2009 at 11:36 pm

    Clare-is he really holding a press conference at 1pm? I thought it would be something more informal.Maybe we will get a T.O. type scenario going on?

    “You guys that point the finger at him. (tears) It’s really unfair. That’s my teammate. (tears) That’s my 3rd baseman.

  166. Buddy Biancalana February 17th, 2009 at 11:36 pm

    From the 1993 Phillies, Incaviglia & Daulton juiced too, no?

    38 pitches was on that team as well.

    Just sayin’

  167. GreenBeret7 February 17th, 2009 at 11:37 pm

    randy l
    February 17th, 2009 at 11:34 pm
    “randy l-

    i had several serious concussions that i was hospitalized when i was a kid . this supposedly makes blood flow to the prefrontal cortex run slower. all concussions do permanent brain damage ( no comment gb7 )

    ————————————————————

    Damned…and I had a good one ready for that.

  168. Nick in SF February 17th, 2009 at 11:37 pm

    I’m unclear about the context of the second Cashman quote.

    Is Arod the asset or is it the cousin?

  169. Clare February 17th, 2009 at 11:39 pm

    S.A.,

    That’s what yankees.com says. And lol at the T.O. scenario, but not likely.

    GB7,

    But why schedule it? They don’t normally do that, do they?

  170. DT February 17th, 2009 at 11:41 pm

    Clare –

    I don’t think it will cost the Yankees in attendance. Fans will still come to the park to see a winning product.

    In terms marketability and PR it can’t be a positive.

    I wonder if the Yankees sold less Giambi memorabilia after his troubles? Would be interesting to find out. Jason’s production went down too, so maybe that had an effect also.

  171. S.A.-The 2009 MLB season is almost here February 17th, 2009 at 11:42 pm

    Ah. Thanks Clare. :)

  172. randy l February 17th, 2009 at 11:42 pm

    “Do you have enough time left in your life to weed out the bad apple?’

    gb7-

    how did you know about my cousin buster?

    you should have seen the look on my father’s face when he saw buster on the news driving across the fort meyers airport runway in a car with the police chasing him.

    that buster, he was quite the character.

  173. GreenBeret7 February 17th, 2009 at 11:42 pm

    Buddy Biancalana
    February 17th, 2009 at 11:36 pm
    From the 1993 Phillies, Incaviglia & Daulton juiced too, no?

    38 pitches was on that team as well.

    Just sayin’

    ————————————————————

    I was always curious about how Pete Rose went from a 22 year old, 170 rookie to 210 pounds and built like a linebacker in 7 years. That’s not milkshakes, steaks and weight lifting.

  174. m February 17th, 2009 at 11:43 pm

    That’s just it. Yankee fans are so eager to “sweep this under the rug”, like it never happened. Alex is like a puppy making a mess on the rug. You can scrub it, but the smell is there. But it’ll disappear with time. But you can’t get mad at the puppy because its young, stupid, and doesn’t know any better.

    And no one’s acting like he committed murder. But some of us are not happy that this comes out after he resigned with the Yankees. Think that the Yankees would’ve signed him to such a cushy deal if this came out after he opted out? That’s right. Joe Crede would be the guy on 3B.

    But what do I know? As long as he hits homeruns, no big deal. I’ll shut up now.

  175. Clare February 17th, 2009 at 11:44 pm

    DT,

    Giambi’s happened more in real time – it became public around the same time he was clearly suffering the effects of coming off PEDS.

    What happened with ARod was 6 years ago. I think it makes a difference.

    And yes, winning is the biggest factor. God help us all if ARod starts the season in a slump. It will get ugly fast.

  176. DT February 17th, 2009 at 11:44 pm

    I think the family catcher’s mask gave Cousin Buster away….

  177. GreenBeret7 February 17th, 2009 at 11:44 pm

    Clare
    February 17th, 2009 at 11:39 pm
    S.A.,

    That’s what yankees.com says. And lol at the T.O. scenario, but not likely.

    GB7,

    But why schedule it? They don’t normally do that, do they?

    ————————————————————

    Pretty much, yeah. He’s always done it on the first full day of camp.

  178. CENTRAL CT YANKEE February 17th, 2009 at 11:45 pm

    I think Jeter should hold his press conference on the mound of the New Yankee Stadium

  179. DT February 17th, 2009 at 11:48 pm

    I think Jeter should start his 1:00 scheduled press conference at 1:20 in a show of support to Alex.

  180. GreenBeret7 February 17th, 2009 at 11:49 pm

    randy l
    February 17th, 2009 at 11:42 pm
    “Do you have enough time left in your life to weed out the bad apple?’

    gb7-

    how did you know about my cousin buster?

    you should have seen the look on my father’s face when he saw buster on the news driving across the fort meyers airport runway in a car with the police chasing him.

    that buster, he was quite the character.

    ————————————————————

    If Cousin Buster had any cash, he wouldn’t have any problems with the Ft Myers and Lee County Police. I imagine that look of surprise on your father’s face was shock when he realized that it WASN’T you.

    Funny that you mentioned that airport. Talk about graft and corruption. They’re still patching holes around that place (sink holes).

  181. Nick in SF February 17th, 2009 at 11:51 pm

    Will they give #6 to Arod’s cousin?

  182. Scared of the Wall February 17th, 2009 at 11:51 pm

    “Jeter, the Yankees’ captain, was emotionless and sat slumped in his chair. He will discuss Rodriguez on Wednesday, at which point he may still be emotionless.”

    Jeter hasn’t shown emotion since Boone hit that walk-off homer in the 2003 ALCS. He used to be Captain Clutch, now he’s Captain GIDP. So sad, Jeter used to be my favorite player. We could use his leadership in the locker room during a time like this…

  183. Lara08 February 17th, 2009 at 11:55 pm

    m, if you want to shut up now, then feel free. Just let the record show it was your idea.

    Most people can respect that people are ticked off and feel he can’t be trusted and its wrong. But there is a faction that has taken it beyond that and are using fake (and selective) “outrage” as a cover.

    I’d like to be able to say “Okay, he cheated and he admitted and I don’t need to know every small detail” without being considered an idiot, foolish or duped.

    Some of us just happen to feel this way about steroids period.

    And to the poster that said he doesn’t want the dynasty teams to be tainted, too bad. Some of the players were users. Sorry, no selective outrage here.

  184. Betsy February 17th, 2009 at 11:56 pm

    I just think Cashman comes off as a complete hypocrite, expecting the players to support Alex even as he moans to the media. Ok, Brian, now you deal with the consequences of your words (more media frenzy) Fortunately, Alex doesn’t have to hang out with his GM – they probably don’t even need to speak.

  185. Betsy February 17th, 2009 at 11:56 pm

    I just think Cashman comes off as a complete hypocrite, expecting the players to support Alex even as he moans to the media. Ok, Brian, now you deal with the consequences of your words (more media frenzy) Fortunately, Alex doesn’t have to hang out with his GM – they probably don’t even need to speak.

  186. Betsy February 17th, 2009 at 11:57 pm

    Sorry for the double post…….

  187. Betsy February 18th, 2009 at 12:01 am

    To be fair to Brian, though (who I love), this article has some more quotes from him – the “asset” quote is put in full context here.

    http://mlb.mlb.com/news/articl.....8;c_id=mlb

  188. DT February 18th, 2009 at 12:02 am

    ARoid’s Cousin “No Speaka Dee Ingles”
    February 17th, 2009 at 9:42 pm

    How did this post above get past the filter when it mentions Pete’s full name?

    Color me confused.

  189. Betsy February 18th, 2009 at 12:02 am

    I must be missing something – I don’t see anything about a Jeter PC at 1pm tomorrow (and I’m on Yankees.com now)

  190. Betsy February 18th, 2009 at 12:02 am

    I must be missing something – I don’t see anything about a Jeter PC at 1pm tomorrow (and I’m on Yankees.com now)

  191. yanksfanmc February 18th, 2009 at 12:02 am

    Pete,

    I have been a fan of your blog for quite sometime. While I only do an occasional post on here, I do check in just to read whats going on and comments from from bloggers.

    Hands down your blog is the best and I think you do a great job in providing information on the team.

    However, the A-Rod bashing needs to stop. The rest of the scribes need to stop too.

    He’s so hated by media members, but yet everyone seems obsessed with his every move and analyzing every single word out of his mouth.

    75% of the players between 98-2004 were doing something.

    Lets put it to rest-Especially when that one scribe asked “Alex, did the injection hurt?”

  192. The Ghost February 18th, 2009 at 12:03 am

    Too bad Jerry Reese wasn’t the Yankee GM. He would have signed Arod with a clause that rendered the contract null and void if he ever tested positive for steroids.

  193. AndyH February 18th, 2009 at 12:07 am

    Wow, I’m pretty disappointed in Cashman right now.

    Alex is a pretty delicate specimen anyway, good job making him feel unwelcome.

  194. Jimmy Swaggart February 18th, 2009 at 12:08 am

    If only ARod had broken down and cried and confessed his sin and begged for forgiveness, now that would have been ENTERTAINMENT!!

  195. randy l February 18th, 2009 at 12:09 am

    gb7-

    the way some of my family from maine ended up going down to ft meyers was my father’s navy ship had stooped at boca grande in world war two to get fuel. he and his friends got off the ship and it stuck in his mind as a beautiful place.

    the nearby port charlotte stadium that the rangers played at ( this year tampa bay) was the last place my father and his two oldest brothers watched a yankee game together. they first watched ruth and gehrig at the stadium and every year drove to the stadium from maine in the old days.

    i’ve got a great photo of them all in their yankee hats at that yankee exhibition game. it was great listening to them tell the stories of the old yankees. not that he can’t do it, but arod has some work to do to get on their good side.

    he could be a yankee great , but he needs to somehow get it that being a yankee is a special thing.

  196. randyhater February 18th, 2009 at 12:14 am

    Cashman’s doing what he always does, putting distance between himself and all his crap moves. Get ready for a flurry of stories from his water-carriers blaming the Tampa Mafia for bringing back Arod over his objections. Who cares that it was Cash who brought him here in the first place?

    If the tough-talking Boy Genius was half as good at evaluating talent as he is at covering his own butt we’d be a lot better off.

  197. DT February 18th, 2009 at 12:17 am

    Betsy –

    Thanks for the link. It does help to read Cashman’s quotes in full context.

  198. Chico Esquela February 18th, 2009 at 12:22 am

    Arod y’ basebol been berry berry good to Pete’s blog

    ARod generated a total of 1860 comments on today threads.

  199. raymagnetic February 18th, 2009 at 12:28 am

    Ephedra and psuedoephedrine are not the same thing even though psuedoephedrine is derived from the Ephedra plant.

    Much like chewing the coca leaf is much different than sniffing cocaine.

  200. Tex's New Best Friend February 18th, 2009 at 12:28 am

    Resigning A-Rod was not a crap move.

    This happened in 2003.

    Sure it is frustrating that with all Cash did this winter, this is what is dominating the news, but surely your comments in the heat of the moment are counter-productive to having the entire team there supporting him. Fact is Alex is ours for the next 9 years, so lets get what we can out of this deal, and let that be that.

  201. Baseball Fan February 18th, 2009 at 12:28 am

    I just read a very very powerful post……

    “It goes back to being young, and being curious….”

    “I haven’t thought about that much (the question of if you’d have come forward had SI not have broken the story)…”

    “It goes back to my neck injury…that’s when I decided I was being stupid and I decided to stop.”

    “The last 15 months have been very, very tough. I’ve been through divorce, I’ve been through tabloid, you name it.”

    “The only thing I ask for from the American people is to be judged from this point forward. That’s all I can ask for.”

    Arrogant, obnoxious, shameless narcissist. It’s none of the above, A-Rod. It’s more like this:

    -It doesn’t go back to being young and curious, it goes back to your being a young, rich, powerful and blessed with amazing God-given ability MLB baseball player.

    With this ability, you made a calculated decision to illegally exploit and dope up your own body with illegal substances for your financial gain and future marketability–nothing more, nothing less.

    You did this not for a few thousand or a few million dollars, but for hundreds of millions of dollars over a fifteen-year period.

    -It goes back to Selena Roberts doing the work of a real investigative sports journalist, of which there are far too few these days, and exposing your antics to the world.

    Selena’s work coming out was the ONLY reason you’ve made up these ridiculous, audacious tales/lies, ones like you only using banned substances for that three-year period on the Rangers, and that you didn’t really know what you were taking with regard to the Dominican mystery drugs. I mean, come on.

    -The past 15 months have been “very, very tough” for several reasons. most if not all of which you should really at least claim some personal responsibility and a degree of regret.

    It is common knowledge here in NYC that your wife divorced you because you were busy …… Madonna. Not really anyone’s fault except your own.

    You’re in this mess because even though you possess extraordinary talent, you were enough of a coward to risk everything because you thought you could get away with it. And you haven’t. And yeah, when that happens, it’s “very, very tough.” But we should feel pity for you?

    -Don’t insult “the American people” by addressing them like you’re the President of the United States or a life-long public servant.

    You shot yourself up with drugs to land the biggest possible contract you could, and you would never have admitted this if Selena hadn’t bagged your …..

    Now at least I understand why the MFY Cap’n Tange and others in past years never really stood up for you when the fans were crucifying you at the stadium and you were getting nailed by bad press.

    Chances are, most of them knew damned well what a fraud you were.

    And while they probably didn’t want you to get caught, since they recognize the talents you bring to their club and table, on another level there’s probably a small part of them that they don’t want to admit that makes them feel happy you’re boiling on the front burner right now like the bunny in Fatal Attraction.

    Don’t insult the American public’s intelligence, A-Rod. What a load of bunk.

  202. m February 18th, 2009 at 12:31 am

    haha. Phil Hughes just won $165,000 for hitting a half-court shot in a promotion at Staples Center. They say he’s studying engineering at USC, too. He looks just like Phil. Sigh. I hope that Phil finds his way this season. He looked really good at the end of the year.

  203. you gotta have faith (bronx zoo 2009) February 18th, 2009 at 12:40 am

    hey Betsey,

    i know your in love already:
    http://www.daylife.com/photo/0.....rk_Yankees

    lol

  204. gayle February 18th, 2009 at 12:46 am

    uhoh my really good modd about my tickets just went away i just noticed that they assigned me a different plan than i had for the past 5 years. They now assigned me a 12 game plan during the week not the Saturday plan I had looks like a call to the ticket office tomorrow is in order

  205. carl February 18th, 2009 at 12:47 am

    Yankees D-Backs game 7, 10 a.m. eastern time on mlb.com

  206. Betsy February 18th, 2009 at 12:55 am

    You’re welcome, DT!

    M, I almost believed you…..$165,000.00……Phil wears #65. Coincidence? I think not, lol

    YGHFaith, thanks for posting! Nice pic of Mark – now, to see him in pinstripes.

  207. leo_serra February 18th, 2009 at 12:56 am

    interesting example of two different types of person: girardi as a old-school, rah-rah (corny?) manager and cash as a cold hard facts numbercruncher.

    i’m both so no offense meant, just interesting.

    before they split up i figured they would be on same page and say the same thing.

  208. m February 18th, 2009 at 12:58 am

    Mark looks really good in black. That red did not suit him well at all.

    gayle,

    Too bad about your tix. Good luck dealing with them. How do you tell them delicately that they totally messed up?

  209. gayle February 18th, 2009 at 1:00 am

    well they didnt mess up according to them they say in the small print that if they could not handle your current plan they assigned you the next similar plan. I will call in the AM not hopeful will tak what I have this year and try and change it next year but I want to make sure I dont lose my seniority which is key.

  210. pat February 18th, 2009 at 1:06 am

    Hal sounds happier than Cash. Is “asset” a buzzword in the Yankee FO?

    “Hal Steinbrenner said the Yankees have no second thoughts about re-signing Rodriguez to that record-setting contract. “We have absolutely no regrets here,” Steinbrenner wrote. “Alex is one of the premier players in the league, and an important asset to this club. We are looking forward to him having a great season.”

  211. dave February 18th, 2009 at 1:09 am

    An asset- that is what they call trained killers in the CIA right? Or at least that is what they called their guy on the inside that killed targets in the bourne movies. I have no idea if that is true. Cash is a cold hearted guy and that is probably one of the reasons I never really liked him. Well, that and I think he has made some braindead decisions that people completely let him off on but it would be nice if he could throw some support arods way.

    How come i never remember hearing about cash not wanting to re-sign arod until this week? When was it so abundantly clear that arod was another tampa faction signing? Cash had complete control of the team at that point and i thought everyone agreed the moves were his to make or screw up on after 2005. What happened to that idea? I guess out the window when some fan loves cashman and hates the player. Those are the people i like least right now – say you want arod gone, say you love cash but dont say you hate arod but him being here had nothing to do with cashman. That just doesnt fly. If cash can decide all by himself to pass on johan, he can decide all by himself to re-sign arod even though he opted out/

  212. Harry G February 18th, 2009 at 1:10 am

    What ticks me off the most about this story is this:

    Selena Roberts is writing a book about A-Rod, she’s waitin outside his apartment for the past year, been diggin and diggin into A-Rod’s private life looking to dig up dirt on him, and she will make MILLIONS off of this book in which she will personally attack his private life.

    That is wrong.

    What exactly has A-Rod done to her that gives her the right to do that?! And don’t give me the “That’s jouralism. She’s just doing her job.” garbage! The media always hides behind that! Just because it says in some journalism rule book that a reporter is allowed to dig up dirt on someone, hope for him to fail, react with glee every time there’s an opportunity to criticize someone, doesn’t make it morally RIGHT! Even though some professor decided that it’s permitted to disclose private bad details about somebody “because that’s the job of a journalist,” doesn’t mean it’s right. It’s downright wrong. Writing stuff in public that someone doesn’t want in public is WRONG and mean-spirited.

    So Selena Roberts is allowed to do most of the above, and A-Rod isn’t allowed to say anything?! So she didn’t technically “stalk” him, but what he’s trying to say is that every time he comes home, this woman is standing outside bugging him, she’s digging up dirt on him, and for no other reason than to PROFIT MILLIONS off of him.

    So A-Rod is not allowed to attack her personally, but she’s allowed to profit from attacking him personally?! How the heck exactly does that work? She’s allowed to attck him personally, and again, not because she’s doin her job, but because she’s makin money off of him, but he’s not allowed to attack her? Oh, I get it, because the “rules of journalism” state that “don’t shoot the messenger.”

    WHAT?

    Heck yeah shoot the messenger, especially when they’re someone who’s hiding behind that very phrase while their true intentions are for U to fail so that they can make millions off of you. She’s downright wrong.

    Very easy for us to attack A-Rod. What would you do if someone U don’t know, someone whom U’ve never done any wrong to, is looking for bad info on U and looking to damage your reputation. I know. U’d hunt them down and knock their sorry behind out cold.

    Well, A-Rod has every right to diss her in public – Just like she’s dissing him. He did NOT have to apologize to her, – just like she isn’t apologizing for ruining his reputation for no good reason other than to make money off of it – but he stupidly caved under pressure from the media who knows doggone well that he’s right, and are only protecting one of them.

    I guess Kevin Brown or David Wells or Kevin Brown have no right to be ticked at Joe Torre, even though Torre openly makes them out to look like either bad guy or a baby in the book, because “He’s a journalist.” Heck, his name is even on the doggone book!

  213. dave February 18th, 2009 at 1:13 am

    see the first three letters of the word asset. Maybe thats what cash and hal are calling arod but in some code language the two of them made up.

  214. Nick in SF February 18th, 2009 at 1:17 am

    Come on, dave. No GM in baseball has the total control to make the sole decision on a contract like Arod’s. That’s an ownership call.

  215. m February 18th, 2009 at 1:23 am

    dave,

    Lots of people don’t like Cashman, that’s not news. Neither is the fact that Cashman was not in favor of re-signing Alex. Especially after everyone, including Hank, publicly stated that was persona non grata after the opt-out. The Alex re-up was probably a big reason why Cashman thought about leaving the Yankees.

    And you’re wrong if you think Cashman’s a cold-fish. The players love him. He’s been quite supportive of players. Pavano and Austin Jackson are just 2. They may be nobodies to a lot of people, but I’m sure they appreciated Cashman’s support.

  216. G. Love February 18th, 2009 at 1:23 am

    Pretty strong words for Cashman, although I don’t know how shaming a player by calling him an “asset” and “broken” and “Humpty Dumpty” in the context he chose to do so is such a wise move.

    It’s actually a little high school to me.

    I completely appreciate the candidness he’s showing here and I’m sure he feels lied to, but this borders on catty and the GM of the team should lock that down.

    All this does is give reporters an angle to write a story (or a blog post) about how the GM is really pissed.

    As for the rest of the drama today, there’s not much that can be said for Arod either way.

    He’s telling his own brand of truth and if that sets him free, God bless him and the Yankees.

    I’m just scared as Hell that Miss Roberts has some evidence of wrongdoing and lying during his Yankee years.

  217. Jones February 18th, 2009 at 1:34 am

    cashman sucks

  218. Nick in SF February 18th, 2009 at 1:35 am

    Cashman is the harbinger of Melky and Brett.

    Bow before him.

  219. Eppelin' Zeppelin' February 18th, 2009 at 1:39 am

    On Arod: Everybody knows he’s sort of a tool and that he’ll never tell the unvarnished truth. I’m no fan of his, but I think the reaction from indignant writers and some fans has been a little much.

    On Selena Roberts: Is anyone annoyed that she’s made her hay using leaked information? I know that’s how the press works, but find it heinous. I also would have smacked around the Pentagon Papers authors – so, you kinda’ know where I’m coming from.

  220. Who Cares February 18th, 2009 at 1:40 am

    How does Cashman publicly support Pavano and then make these type of comments about a player who has actually produced for him? Surely he is not a huge ARod fan, but come on, keep it to yourself. At least Arod hasnt wasted your money like your boy Pavano did.

  221. Who Cares February 18th, 2009 at 1:52 am

    I will never give Selena Roberts any sort of credit for her journalism and it makes me sick to see every holier than thou sportswriter continually mention her sterling credentials professionalism and stick up for her by saying “don’t shoot the messenger” after what she did to the Duke Lacrosse Players. How come she did not hold a press conference to apologize and admit her mistakes? Did she have the guts to call and apologize to them like Alex did to her? She publicly accused three individuals repeatedly of committing a very heinous crime they did not commit. Arod again apologizes to her today and he is still getting ripped for it.

    She is a hack who has profited from ripping on athletes. I for one will not even consider purchasing her book. Why put my money in her pocket for writing an unauthorized book with the clear intent of tearing down an athlete.

  222. m February 18th, 2009 at 1:53 am

    Well, whatever. I like Cashman. He’s been part of the Yankee family for a long time.

    He’s not right all the time, but he was right on A-rod. They had the chance to get rid of the headache, but Cash was overridden.

    The tepid reaction from Cash and the looks on teammates faces tell you that it’s been a long, difficult week. Things will get better as baseball gets started, and everyone will forget what happened this past week.

  223. Torre's Terrors February 18th, 2009 at 2:09 am

    zell and bob have some new spring training photos up:

    http://nyyankeesrumors.com/get.....kees-camp/

  224. Eppelin' Zeppelin' February 18th, 2009 at 2:10 am

    Yes – I completely forgot about the hack job she did on the Duke guys. So, what’s worse: taking and lying about taking steroids, or ruining reputations without letting due process take its course?

  225. AROD fan February 18th, 2009 at 2:17 am

    this whole a-rod thing is about to make me lose my taste for baseball. i hate to say it, but there are so many messed up things about this a-rod thing, and it just keeps getting worse and worse. if you can honestly watch that press conference and then after listen to cash and the sports media without feeling sick then there is something really wrong with you.

    it is not an argument about whether a-rod is a good player, guy, teammate/whether cash made a good move to sign him. even if you hate a-rod, you do know that your favorite player (whoever he may be) is next. and even if he’s not, do you really think that you are doing something to make the game more fair or to decrease teh use of steroids (by mlb and by children) by listening to francessa/cash/selig/etc.

    how many of you would take steroids just to be a utility player for the kc royals? how many of you are already on steroids and still will never be good enough to even get to the minors? not doing steroids is not an excuse for stinking (Jamie Moyer, Bud Selig, Cash). If you stink you stink. Don’t say you stink better becasue you didn’t do steroids.

    And I believe A-Rod when he says he doesn’t know whether they work or not. The only things really proven about steroids is that they decrease fertility, make players more passive, and increase their medical expenses.

    Anyways, Cash is just trying to cover his own ars.

  226. AROD fan February 18th, 2009 at 2:30 am

    on another note, it’s really funny to me how baseball claims to be “the national pastime”/the patriotic sport (i.e. Anthem + God Bless America) and yet in reality mlb thinks it is its own separate nation. according to cash, selig, and francessa the typical american should know more about a-rod’s press conference than the economic stimulus signed today. ooh, there were no follow up questions! ooh, where are a-rod’s 30 million dollar incentives going to go? omg, he was vague on details!

  227. Nick in SF February 18th, 2009 at 2:44 am

    Quit yer cryin’.

    This is going to be the best season of our lives.

    So it is written. So it shall be done.

  228. RustyJohn February 18th, 2009 at 2:48 am

    I can’t really blame Cashman for resigning ARod to a 10-year deal. In 2007, Cashman was young and naive…

  229. Mark Messier February 18th, 2009 at 3:20 am

    Arod fan I think u mean ARSE…and actually it would seem Cashman is exposing his ARSE with senseless comments.
    All the king’s men couldn’t put Humpty Dumpty back together, if I recall

  230. carl February 18th, 2009 at 4:51 am

    Have a great year and win the Series.

  231. Drive 4-5 February 18th, 2009 at 5:31 am

    Good morning Pete,

    Any chance we can move Thursday’s Steroid Free Blog Day up by 24 hours? I’ve kinda had enough.

  232. sill February 18th, 2009 at 5:34 am

    you know what’s amusing about this? Everyone is hating rodriguez right now. Everyone is just spewing more and more hate. I can guarantee you. Alex Rodriguez will get one of the biggest ovations he has ever received the first time hes announced at yankee stadium. Yankee fans may be dissapointed in him. But they will react like they should, by backing up and taking the side of their own player.Especially when all of the world is against them, just like the yankees,Everyone hates us, and they hate arod now just as much too!

  233. YankeeDiva February 18th, 2009 at 5:43 am

    Perhaps I could feel more anger or disappointment towards Arod if I thought he was the only ‘fraud’ in all of this. I don’t believe anyone caught up in this steroids mess from the players to the owners to media. Everyone has/had something to gain from this and is in it for their own selfish reasons so why everyone using one man as the scapegoat?

    The owners: I don’t buy for one second that they didn’t know what was going on. Tom Hicks is running around claiming he feels cheated when 1/2 the players named had ties to the Texas Rangers how could he have not known? It’s his team, his business…how can you run a multi-million dollar business and not know what is going on inside of it? We didn’t hear any complaints from other owners when people were filling the seats to watch the long ball… as long as they were making money they were all for turning a blind eye. It wasn’t until the government started making a fuss did they even bat an eyelash.

    The GMs and other staff: The fact that Cashman called Arod (a person) an invested asset tells me that they to only care about the bottom line and covering their own asses. They are just like the owners no complaints as long as they are winning and making money. They are just as phony as the next person. They will sell their souls and integrity for the sake of the all might dollar…just ask Joe Torre.

    The players and the union- there were 104 people on the list and only 1 is being called out and dragged through the mud. It wasn’t one or two people that were bringing down the sport but 103. When are the other players on the list going to stand up and do what is ‘right’ for the sport and admit their guilt now? I wouldn’t hold your breath for that. They also got carried away doing anything for the all mighty dollar instead of doing the ‘right’ thing and playing within the rules of the game. Speaking of doing the right thing….if there was an agreement that the test results would be confidential and destroyed after the initial screening….why weren’t they? And why were the results leaked, even though the court system said they should remain sealed.

    The Media- ahh yes the band of women and men who are out for justice, willing to sacrifice their own happiness in search of the truth and bringing respect back to baseball. Well they are willing to do that as long as they are able to reap the rewards of deeper pockets. There is a reason that Pete has a daily/semi-daily thread about Arod. He knows the game… Arod brings in comments and comments make his blog look better and thus he is successful. Selena Roberts did not leak her information out for the good of the game. She wanted to make money and so she wrote a book about someone she knew could bring in money….Arod, thus his name was the only one leaked…those other people couldn’t do much for her so she didn’t even bother to talk about them.

    The Government- will do anything to get the attention off themselves and their lack of ability to actually help the majority of people. I can see it now we know you don’t have jobs, that you don’t have access to health care, that you can barely feed your children but by God we know where Alex Rodriguez got his PEDs 6 years ago!! See we are productive.

    The Fans- are so quick to want their fellow human beings to be put up on pedestals and declared heroes. But the min they make a mistake or fall of that pedestal we want them burned at the stake. Forgetting all of their own sins and the forgiveness they have received. People are so quick to hate someone they don’t even know because they make more money than them and because people (we all know have hidden agendas) say that they are bad….never mind them actually explaining why they are ‘bad’ just that they are.

    The bottom line is the whole system failed and I find it difficult to hold only Arod responsible when there clearly so many other people who involved and are just as phony as he.

  234. yanksince57-was this 1959 or is it 1965? February 18th, 2009 at 5:45 am

    randy – did your concussions occur when you stood between an innings eater and his buffet?

    gb7 – when exactly did you realize that about the tonkin gulf incident?

  235. Mark February 18th, 2009 at 5:54 am

    “Then we have Brian Cashman, who clearly would like to find a Wayback Machine, go back to 2007 and get rid of his third baseman.”
    Yeah that’s the ticket. Cash’s skills would land Morgan Ensberg and company to fill Alex’s shoes. Funny how a new story springs up every time something goes wrong.

  236. dave February 18th, 2009 at 5:58 am

    Oh what do ya know? I say one bad thing about cash and look at all the responses and convo.

    m,

    Lot of people might not like cashman but they dont frequent this blog – ill tell you that. His biggest defenders and admirers are all the most well known and dedicated posters with a very few exceptions. You didnt exactly defend cash by saying he supported pavano so he isnt a cold fish. That just illuminates the fact that he supported the most useless and overpayed yankee in team history and didnt support arod.

    And yes, i DID here a few times many moons ago about cash not being particularly involved in re-signing arod for a small few but it was not the general sentiment like it seems to be now. And I distinctly remember cashman taking over FULL team control well before that deal and being responsible for every move this team has made since then. You guys let him off the hook for pavano and wright and RJ and farnsworth and anyone else who may not have been agreeable signing. Now its time to discuss cashmans non-involvement with arods contract. I really dont want to hear it – this guy is the GM. His main job is putting the team together through signings and trades. Every time we make a signing that doesnt work out his defenders blame tampa. Its getting ridiculous already. Can this guy be blamed for anything ever?

    Nick,’

    I suppose arod deal is too much to handle for a GM that has signed billions worth in player contracts. What is 161 mil, chump change? I know making a deal requires owner to agree sometimes but they dont have to make the decision directly.

    And guys, i REALLY dont remember the day or article or interview in which cash shared with us all the reasons he didnt want arod back but the steinbrenners did it anyway. I dont even remember him saying he didnt want to make the deal. Of course, they were all angry about the opt out because it was a lot of texas’ money on the line but i dont think cash ever came out and said he is done with arod. Actually, that was Hank who gave arod the ultimatum that if he opted out he was done. Finally, you guys are clearly willing to re-write history on this one but remember what free agent third baseman were available that off season. i THINK the best player was joe crede. You think the GM wanted to replace the number three hitter and best hitter in the lineup with joe crede? This was all in 2007 dont forget – at this point, George was no where to be found and hank was not even the one making any real legitimate decisions more then he was just running his mouth non-stop. And hal was very loyal to cashman already – there is no way cashman would not be included in these negotiations. You guys are history revisionists and I thought that would all change when the tampa faction BS ended. I guess not. But it is getting pretty ridiculous that cash cannot take responsibility for a single move the yankees make.

  237. dave February 18th, 2009 at 6:06 am

    For reference, i said the 161 in regards to cashman having full control over the CC signing. I know it is 100 mil less than arod’s but it still quite a bit of cash for cashman compared to the signings he has made in the past. Still further, cash was fully responsible for the 180 mil given to tex and the scary 82.5 mil going to Burnett.

    All in all, cash is on the hook for signing over 400 million dollars in contracts this off season alone and over a billion in total since we won the last world series. I dont think the 275 mil was so much that it is impossible to believe that cashman was in support of it or was part of the negotiations. I find it more difficult to believe that the steinbrenners did it by themselves actually. So I am sure cashman played a role in the signing and I NEVER heard him say he was against re-signing arod before, during or after the signing. I think this is all a bunch of knee jerk reactions for cashman’s die hard fans who consistently would rather hand the blame off to ownership than actually let cashman take responsibility for ANYTHING regarding the yankees.

  238. able 21 February 18th, 2009 at 6:26 am

    Hey Pete. What time do Cash’s chattel take the field today?

  239. Ham Fighters February 18th, 2009 at 7:02 am

    cashman has every right to be pissed, so do arod’s teammates and the fans. the guy screwed up royally and turned the past 2 winters into his own personal carnival. i could see cash was doing a slow burn during his statement (and i saw it from behind him on mlb, it was still obvious) and i actually think its a good thing.

    i think alex needs to be reminded that this isnt over, he needs to be on the up and up fro here on and people need to be watching him and holding him accuontable.

    who the yankees would have turned to had the not re-signed arod doesnt matter. had they known what they know now, they should have let him go and made do at third until something worked.

    i think cashman hit just about the right tone.

    and one more thing, lets stop asking for perfection from cashman. hes human, hes been dragged over the coals this winter and he’s pissed. he has every right to be.

  240. Yankee Fan in Westchester February 18th, 2009 at 7:25 am

    There seems to be a major double standard here. Cashman is accepting of Pettitte and Clemens because they are the golden boys. But when it comes to A-Rod the media and Cashman throw him under the bus and refuse to accept an apology and move on. Tell me Cashman, where would this team have been last year without him? A hell of a lot worse off that’s for sure.

  241. Whitey Fraud February 18th, 2009 at 7:31 am

    He’s a pain in the asset, that what he is.

  242. Whitey Fraud February 18th, 2009 at 7:32 am

    And his head’s up his asset.

    (I could go on, but you get the idea.)

  243. Kobez February 18th, 2009 at 8:09 am

    Once I heard he was going to receive $30M in insentives for breaking the HR record…I thought, if the NYY can’t get out of giving him that money…it should go to that dude’s Don’s foundation. The night the HR record is broken…that next day, don’t have a press conference, just give that guy the 30 million for his foundation. Nothing to think about, just do it, Alex.

  244. Kobez February 18th, 2009 at 8:10 am

    Once I heard he was going to receive $30M in incentives for breaking the HR record…I thought, if the NYY can’t get out of giving him that money…it should go to that dude Don’s foundation. The afternoon/night the HR record is broken…the next day, don’t have a press conference, don’t call in the world….just give that guy the $30 million for his foundation. Nothing to think about, just do it, do the right thing, Alex.

  245. disco stu February 18th, 2009 at 8:30 am

    I wonder how “angry” Cashman will still be at A-Rod if he is standing on the podium this October accepting the World Series trophy from Bud Selig after his 3rd baseman just helped the team he put together win that elusive 27th championship.

    Winning will go a very long way in smoothing things over ,,, at least in Yankeeland.

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  247. We Miss Paulie February 18th, 2009 at 10:18 am

    Pete, no doubt that Cash is pissed, but I think you comments out of context. The rest of his statement is warmer:

    “He’s our player, he’s our player for a long time, for better or for worse. We will deal with it, we will accept it, we will take ownership of it. He’s been through so many controversial things, but he keeps fighting through it. I’ve seen a lot of things thrown at this guy and yet he goes out there and continues to fight through it and tune it out. It’s almost like between the lines is an area where he can find some peace. I can’t tell you that this isn’t going to adversely impact him as he moves forward. But if it does, it’s our job, especially his teammates’ job, to pick him up and help carry him through it. … We’ll be with him every day of the process. Every day, he’s got to know that there’s a ton of shoulders that he can lean on. He’s got to absolutely know that there’s a family here that needs him and wants him. That’s probably the best healthy dose of medicine that he can ever get.”

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