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Spring Game 4: Twins at Yankees

Posted by: Peter Abraham - Posted in Misc, Podcast on Feb 28, 2009 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

YANKEES (2-1)
Damon LF
Jeter SS
Teixeira 1B
Rodriguez 3B
Posada DH
Cano 2B
Swisher RF
Molina C
Cabrera CF

Pitching today: Joba Chamberlain followed by Igawa, Dunn, Veras, Giese and others.

TWINS (3-0)
Span RF
Punto SS
Young LF
Kubel DH
Buscher 1B
Hughes 3B
Tolbert 2B
Butera C
Comez CF

Notes: Joba is likely only to pitch an inning, maybe two. … Francisco Liriano starts for the Twins. … Back with much more later on.

UPDATE, 9:46 a.m.: Forgot to mention this before, but the game is on YES and WCBS. I’ll live blog it here and there but I assume most of you will be watching or listening. Plus I want to get a jump start on my newspaper work.

UPDATE, 9:51 a.m.: Big news from Mets camp. Johan Santana is out “indefinitely” with a sore elbow. That is ominous news.

They need to make Hank Steinbrenner write “I will listen to Brian Cashman” 1,000 times on a blackboard.

UPDATE, 10:30 a.m.: The Captain signs for a kid in the dugout:

UPDATE, 10:41 a.m.: i’ve tried to watch the new guys as often as possible. Teixeira looks remarkably the same lefty or righty. He starts with his hands high, good hip turn and a nice follow-through. Lots of time switch hitters have more power on one side so they have a longer swing. But not Tex.

UPDATE, 12:22 p.m.: Jorge Posada has been scratched because of shoulder discomfort.

UPDATE, 1:01 p.m.: Spoke to Posada and Girardi. Posada felt some pain while stretching on Thursday and has been playing since. He didn’t think it was a big deal, But when he woke up with it again today, he said something to the trainer and was checked out by the doctor.

He won’t throw until Tuesday at the earliest. They’re describing it as the first setback he has had in his rehab but nothing to be too concerned about. But obviously there are concerns. To me, this illustrates that while the Yankees are a stronger team than they were last season, Posada and Mariano Rivera remain major concerns.

Shelley Duncan is the new DH.

UPDATE, 1:10 p.m.: Here, listen to it yourself as Jorge Posada explains the situation:

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He says how he wanted to play today but the team was being cautious. He thinks it will clear up in 2-3 days.

UPDATE, 1:22 p.m.: Joba Chamberlain is getting tattooed and not in the way he usually does.

Punto: Single up the midde. Young: Double to deep center. Kubel: One-hop double over the fence in right. 2-0 Twins.

UPDATE, 1:36 p.m.: Yankees tie it up. Jeter single, Tex double, A-Rod sac fly to deep left. Swisher then reached on a throwing error by the 3B and Tex scored.

Dan Giese on to pitch.

UPDATE, 2:19 p.m.: Giese got knocked around, too. Twins lead 6-3 after three and now Jose Veras is pitching.

UPDATE, 3:13 p.m.: Fair is fair, Kei Igawa pitched well for the Yankees. Clubhouse open to the media now. Check back later.

 
 

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410 Responses to “Spring Game 4: Twins at Yankees”

  1. Han Ram February 28th, 2009 at 8:18 am

    Would be a heck of a regular season pitching matchup

  2. Gary February 28th, 2009 at 8:21 am

    I can’t figure why Igawa gets innings when he’s not on the 40-man roster and there’s more than enough arms in camp to give innings to for exhibition games.
    He should be at the minor league complex.

  3. Trevor February 28th, 2009 at 8:29 am

    Ugh other then Joba and Dunn I’m not interested in seeing anyone else today.

  4. SamVa February 28th, 2009 at 8:30 am

    random- does anyone know if we have an organized fantasy league? I have been playing the MLB.com one for the last couple of years, but it’s a lot more fun when you have people to talk **** to.

  5. Han Ram February 28th, 2009 at 8:41 am

    Tex and A Rod go back to back today

  6. Rob NY February 28th, 2009 at 8:42 am

    Glad to see GI Joe putting out the A lineup. Hope the melk man can get himself in a groove sooner than later because it looks like Gardner isn’t going to do him any favors.

  7. Mark in Tampa February 28th, 2009 at 8:43 am

    I would like to see the young pitchers be a lot more efficient this year in ST. Last year, they(Kennedy, Hughes, Joba) would be scheduled to go, say, 4 innings or 60 pitches. But they consistently would burn through those 60 pitches in 3 innings or sometimes less. Sure, they got their work in, but that inefficiency carried through to the regular season and cost the Yankees big time as their young guns couldn’t even get through 5 innings. I would much rather see them get through their innings with pitches to spare and finish their work in the pen. I know only Joba is supposed to be in the ML this year but it is never too early to develop good habits.

  8. asfaiosf February 28th, 2009 at 8:50 am

    why do they still let igawa touch the baseball?

  9. murphydog February 28th, 2009 at 8:51 am

    “I can’t figure why Igawa gets innings…”

    IMO, while past experience dictates Igawa isn’t going to crack this rotation, the Yankees have to see what they have in this guy at this point, if not for 40-man roster purposes, then for “fish-or-cut-bait” purposes.

  10. jennifer February 28th, 2009 at 8:59 am

    I guess this is a test for Jorge to play every day. My guess is he’ll sit him tomorrow, you don’t want to do too much too soon.

  11. rconn23 February 28th, 2009 at 9:14 am

    I hope “others” includes Christian Garcia, but I doubt it.

  12. Fran February 28th, 2009 at 9:24 am

    Is this the last game before Derek, Alex and the other players leave for the WBC?

  13. Joe from Long Island February 28th, 2009 at 9:28 am

    Pete – Happy 3rd Birthday for the Blog. I’ve said it before, I love this little experiment that you started. It’s that combination of your reporting, writing, wry observations, and the loyal readers who contribute that make it special. Here’s hoping that the Yankees are as successful as this site.

    murphydog – I see what you’re saying, but I can’t imagine that, at this point, the Yankees don’t know what Igawa is all about. Unfortunately.

  14. trisha - As long as you're in pinstripes, Kei, I've got your back. February 28th, 2009 at 9:41 am

    “I can’t figure why Igawa gets innings when he’s not on the 40-man roster and there’s more than enough arms in camp to give innings to for exhibition games.
    He should be at the minor league complex.”

    The business part of the deal says when you are into a pitcher for a lot of money, you don’t ignore his presence at spring training. The baseball part of the deal says that when the pitcher was your AAA pitcher of the year, you owe it to yourself to see whether there is something that will cause him to work his way into the rotation in the majors or at least be a valuable bullpen commodity. That scuttlebut part of the deal says that if Guidry changed Igawa’s mechanics and things went downhill from there, maybe without Guidry he will have found his way back into quality pitching and maybe make it to the majors.

    Obviously I am rooting for Igawa to do well.

  15. Tom February 28th, 2009 at 9:43 am

    Igawa is what he is-a bad player. He was put on waivers last season and nobody picked him up and he’s not on Japan’s WBC team. Nobody wants the guy, so the Yankees leave him in AAA where he can help them compete. He’s organizational filler at this point.

  16. Joe from Long Island February 28th, 2009 at 9:47 am

    Good morning, trish.

    I don’t think you can pin this on Guidry. Given the money invested, I’d think every coach with a pulse has had the opportunity to think of something. From what I’ve read, he was a high-ball pitcher in the old country, and got away with it. He’s not been able to get away with it here. Having said that, I am rooting for him, also. He seems like a decent enough guy, and, even if dealt (as seems the best case scenario) he can bring back some potentially helpful players.

  17. Brad Pitt's better-looking brother February 28th, 2009 at 9:47 am

    “IMO, while past experience dictates Igawa isn’t going to crack this rotation, the Yankees have to see what they have in this guy at this point, if not for 40-man roster purposes, then for “fish-or-cut-bait” purposes.”

    - – - – - – - – - – -

    Unfortunately for Igawa it appears his best chance at contributing to the Yankees at least would now only be as a left-handed specialist in relief if he’s lucky. The pitching staff has improved both through FA acquisitions and through the farm system. Pretty deep water for Kei to tread at this juncture.
    And the kicker is that he’ll need to find some control even as a specialty guy. But he’s got a contract and they have to see what, if anything, they can salvage from him – agreed.

  18. UtilityMan February 28th, 2009 at 9:52 am

    Great day today…75 little breeze…joba pitching…game on TV….waiting for the guys to come out and start practicing.

  19. Sean Serritella February 28th, 2009 at 9:56 am

    I look forward to see Joba pitch. It doesn’t look like he’ll be facing that scary of a lineup.

  20. pat February 28th, 2009 at 10:00 am

    Happy Anniversary Pete. Like any good partnership, it takes effort from both sides to make it work. You’re holding up your end and we’ll try to hold up ours!

    The traditional 3rd anniversary gift is leather so hopefully the Yanks will flash a little today in honor of the Lohud Blog.

  21. Joe from Long Island February 28th, 2009 at 10:02 am

    Very bad news for Mets. It sounds like MRI time for Johan. I really don’t wish him ill. As a New Yorker and an all-around baseball fan, I hope this is just “ST, working the kinks out” type of soreness, but given what is at stake, you have to be concerned.

    What’s that line about the best laid plans?

  22. Mark in Tampa February 28th, 2009 at 10:04 am

    It will be interesting to see where Johan is this year stuff-wise. His fastball was @2MPH lower last year, now this. He says it is normal Feb soreness, but the Mets actions speak louder. If he is hurt and no longer the pitcher that the Mets traded for, then the Yanks come out ahead, even if the players they would have traded never pan out. Having minor leaguers fail is a small stumble, but a big contract pitcher who can’t do it really hurts. No gloating though, we have our own big ticket risks. Keep your fingers crossed.

  23. ditmars1929 February 28th, 2009 at 10:05 am

    I’m guessing/hoping Igawa gets innings in preparation for a very desperate National League team with a good prospect or two. In light of Santana’s news, seeing Igawa in a Met uniform would be pretty funny. Never happen though.

  24. Joe from Long Island February 28th, 2009 at 10:09 am

    ditmars – baseball is a funny game. Sometimes very funny. You never know.

  25. Joe from Long Island February 28th, 2009 at 10:10 am

    Igawa for F. Martinez?

  26. trisha - As long as you're in pinstripes, Kei, I've got your back. February 28th, 2009 at 10:11 am

    OT – but a concern (to me, anyway)

    The projo just laid off 74 more people. I will give you the link, but it’s a registration paper so you might not be able to read the article:

    http://www.projo.com/business/.....8382f.html

    Of note is the following:

    “On Sunday, the debt-burdened company that owns the Philadelphia Inquirer and Philadelphia Daily News filed for protection from creditors under Chapter 11 of federal bankruptcy law.

    On Tuesday, the Hearst Corp. said it would sell or close its San Francisco Chronicle newspaper if the company is unable to obtain sharp expense reductions over the next few months.

    On Wednesday, the Hartford Courant announced that it would eliminate 100 jobs, mainly through layoffs.”

    While the recession certainly accounts for some of the problem, a more generic concern deals with advertising:

    “Linda Lotridge Levin, professor and chair of the University of Rhode Island’s journalism department, said the newspaper industry’s main problem involves advertising, its chief source of revenue.

    “For years and years, you had three places to advertise: newspapers, TV stations and radio stations,” she said.

    Now, with the popularity of the Internet, there are “millions of places” to advertise or otherwise promote a product or service — including places that do not charge, such as social networking sites, she said.

    As a result, there are fewer advertising dollars being spent for traditional media such as newspapers, she said.”

    I can see the confluence of events (recession plus loss of advertising revenues due to the internet) causing an ugly spiraling event with newspapers everywhere.

    I continue to say that the internet is as much an “evil” as it is a good and that fabric of life as we have known it will necessarily be permanently changed as a result – and unequivocally not always for the better. But it’s there lurking in the background, gathering momentum, like a tsunami whose effects will be felt at some point in time, with differing results depending upon the terrain.

    :(

  27. Mark in Tampa February 28th, 2009 at 10:13 am

    “seeing Igawa in a Met uniform would be pretty funny”

    But the joke would be on us when he pitches his best game of the year in Yankee Stadium during inter-league play!

  28. Doreen February 28th, 2009 at 10:26 am

    I surely don’t wish Johan Santana or the Mets any ill will, and I hope they are just being cautious here. Still it does point to the fragile nature of pitching arms, and you kind of just cross your fingers, pray, knock on wood and whatever other voodoo that you do that your own pitchers stay healthy.

    Re: newspapers. I think what is going to have to happen is newspaper content that is now available free of charge over the internet is going to have to become a pay service. Right now, I can read as many “newspaper” stories I want online for free. So there’s the cost advantage, plus the advantage of not having so much newspaper to recycle.

    The other problem for newspapers is that the internet is instantaneous — news is more current and at your fingertips. For example, yesterday morning, I read in my morning newspaper about the Dodgers’ most recent offer to Manny Ramirez. Well, I already knew about that. Plus, a half hour later I came to this here blog and saw the update, which was posted long before my newspaper was delivered, that Manny had declined the offer.

    So, there’s going to be upheaval. But people still have a hunger for the news. It’s the delivery system that’s changing, and news organizations are going to have to get creative with finding ways to charge for their services.

  29. Rebecca-Optimist Prime...Staying to Write the Story February 28th, 2009 at 10:31 am

    Holy crap, it’s good to not be a Mets fan

  30. Bill Porter February 28th, 2009 at 10:31 am

    Joe from Long Island wrote on February 28th, 2009 at 10:02 am

    Very bad news for Mets. It sounds like MRI time for Johan. I really don’t wish him ill. As a New Yorker and an all-around baseball fan, I hope this is just “ST, working the kinks out” type of soreness, but given what is at stake, you have to be concerned.

    What’s that line about the best laid plans?

    Couldn’t agree with that more even as a transplanted New Yorker and rabid Yankee fan. He brings a lot to the game, I hope he’s ok.

  31. Jeremy K -- Can't wait for April February 28th, 2009 at 10:32 am

    Does anyone know how far off Matsui is? And when he’s scheduled to get in a game? Is he playing in the WBC? Thanks.

  32. ANSKY February 28th, 2009 at 10:37 am

    “Joba Chamberlain followed by Igawa … ”

    This could be the only time you’ll ever see that in a lineup.

    Correction: This SHOULD be the only time you’ll ever see that in a lineup.

    Correction: This should be the only time you’ll ever see that in a lineup, ASIDE FROM APRIL FOOL’S DAY.

    Just trying to wrap my brain around that, and I can’t imagine Girardi putting that pitching order out there without rolling his eyes, shaking his head or cracking a smile and thinking ‘Where’s Carl Pavano when you really need him?’

  33. trisha - As long as you're in pinstripes, Kei, I've got your back. February 28th, 2009 at 10:38 am

    “I don’t think you can pin this on Guidry.”

    Seriously the only reason that I mention that is because someone had mentioned it before. I don’t know that it’s the case or not the case.

  34. Tony in Albany February 28th, 2009 at 10:43 am

    “UPDATE, 10:30 a.m.: The Captain signs force kid in the dugout”

    Pete, I’m trying to make sense of what that grouping of words means….it’s certainly not a sentence. Jeter signed a kid in the dugout? What’s a force kid? haha someone interpret this for me, I must be reading it wrong.

  35. ANSKY February 28th, 2009 at 10:47 am

    Bill Porter … if it’s not good news for Johan (hoping it isn’t) then I guess the talk a year ago about Hughes over Johan fall in Hughes’ favor by default.

    I think everyone knew that Johan would be far better than Hughes for at least a year or two. The real arguments were really between how soon could Hughes mature into a top quality starter, how log would he last there, how long would Johan stay at or near the top, and what each of the risks were worth.

    We had some people dismissing Hughes as a career AAA pitcher and Johan as practically the best pitcher of all time. Both premature over dramatized stretches, but the more educated discussions involved topics closer to the previous paragraph.

  36. Trevor February 28th, 2009 at 10:48 am

    Doesn’t surprise me about Santana. You knew something was up when he wouldn’t throw his slider towards the end of his tenure with the Twins.
    This soreness can’t be ignored. And I think it has little to do with ST starting a bit earlier then usual. Someone like Mike Francesa who loves Santana and doesn’t want to think anything negative of him, downplayed this elbow soreness. I always remember him getting on Cashman for not making that trade.
    Santana is a great pitcher but with this elbow soreness and his decrease in velocity on his FB I think Cashman made the right decision.

  37. Al February 28th, 2009 at 10:49 am

    “UPDATE, 10:30 a.m.: The Captain signs force kid in the dugout”
    Pete, I’m trying to make sense of what that grouping of words means….it’s certainly not a sentence. Jeter signed a kid in the dugout? What’s a force kid? haha someone interpret this for me, I must be reading it wrong.
    ——–

    I assumed he meant “for some” kid instead of “force.” With quick typing hands, I could imagine that mistake.

  38. trisha - As long as you're in pinstripes, Kei, I've got your back. February 28th, 2009 at 10:51 am

    Doreen, I agree with you. How they do it, and the ultimate effect(s), remain to be seen.

    For example, if news mediums decided to charge a service for reading their online editions, would people do it?
    Would it depend on the price? And if they didn’t do it, would people then tend to go back to hard copy? On of the most compelling aspects of the internet media, and the one that many people would likely pay for, is (as you mentioned) the ability to remain as current as the news itself. With that in mind, will hard copy eventually become a dinosaur?

    I wonder whether Pete has any insight into what the media thinktanks believe to be the future of hard copy.

    I find it depressing to think that hard copy might someday disappear. Advertising revenues are the profit mainstay of newspapers. With monster.com, employment sections of hard-copy newspapers are seemingly becoming obsolete. The same is happening with other forms of hard-copy advertisements.

    While I myself don’t read hard-copy newspapers, I will defend to the death others’ rights to…

    (But let me say that I can’t be counted as part of the problem because I used to read the paper at my parents’ house – it isn’t like I used to buy it but then stopped because of the internet)

  39. tampayank February 28th, 2009 at 10:52 am

    I actually like the makeup of the Mets team, don’t wish them any ill, big fan of Wright. Hopefully it’s nothing serious w/ Johan, would love to see a Subway Series come October:)

    Hopefully Joba has a solid outing this afternoon, I heard Kay talking about how if Joba is just a 5 inning pitcher it will put too much pressure on the pen and eventually be a detriment, he needs to be a stretched out to be a reliable 7 most of the time or get put back in the pen….I agree

  40. Brad Pitt's better-looking brother February 28th, 2009 at 10:56 am

    Ansky and Trevor are right.
    Johann wanted seven years if I recall and that is a huge risk for any team even for a healthy pitcher. Plus what the Yankees would have had to have given up for him. I was glad Cash didn’t pull the trigger on that one. Had he done that I would bet we wouldn’t have either CC or AJ now. Looking like a good move to me and always did.
    Hughes didn’t work out last season as hoped but I still think over the course of seven years he’ll be more than OK.

    Some here are still clamoring for Mike Cameron even now although he is obviously on the down slope. Or Andruw Jones… or choose your faded star. He won’t make that mistake either, I hope.

  41. S.A.-The 2009 MLB season is almost here February 28th, 2009 at 10:57 am

    Big news from Mets camp. Johan Santana is out “indefinitely” with a sore elbow.

    =================================

    Ruh Ruh
    BTW, can we keep CC in bubble wrap?

  42. greg Costello February 28th, 2009 at 10:58 am

    Tony beat me to it. “The Captain signs force kid in the dugout”

    Is it possible that baseballs are now called “force kids?”

    “Jorge Posada sure has been hitting the force kid well.”

  43. carl February 28th, 2009 at 11:01 am

    “Switch jitters”

  44. m February 28th, 2009 at 11:07 am

    Late to the party as usual, but..”Happy Birthday, LoHud Blog!”

    Bad news, indeed for the Zohan. I’ve been reading the stories about his 2 scratches. Kind of knew someting was up when they scratched his Tuesday start on a Friday. Best wishes to Johan (but not the team).

    Force Kid? Why that’s Shelley Duncan. Lucky thing he’s not the spokesperson for Dunkin Donuts. There’s be no coffee in the cup after he dunked while doing a commercial. Maybe Pete meant to type “for a kid”?

    Best of luck to our guys, especially Igawa. No need to ridicule the guy. He’s one of our own.

  45. Brad Pitt's better-looking brother February 28th, 2009 at 11:08 am

    carl February 28th, 2009 at 11:01 am

    “Switch jitters”

    - – - – - –

    Carl, I’m not sure that last one was a typo.
    Melky could be said to have had the switch jitters last season.
    LOL

  46. joe February 28th, 2009 at 11:10 am

    game’s at 1? am I right?

  47. Chris V February 28th, 2009 at 11:12 am

    Just wanted to say thanks for all the hard work Pete, was just looking at some blogs for other teams, and I realized that just like the Yankees, this blog sets the bar.

  48. Jeremy K -- Can't wait for April February 28th, 2009 at 11:13 am

    joe: yeah. On YES!!!!!!!!

  49. S.A.-The 2009 MLB season is almost here February 28th, 2009 at 11:14 am

    1:15pm Joe

  50. Global Warming February 28th, 2009 at 11:14 am

    Right

  51. m February 28th, 2009 at 11:15 am

    joe,

    Close enough. 1:15 pm. Here’s the gameday. No lineup, but it is sunny and 73 degrees.

    http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/gameday.....b_nyamlb_1

  52. Chris V February 28th, 2009 at 11:15 am

    the typos are prob cause of the iphone as cool as it is, the thing is a pain, it spells things the way it wants to sometimes

  53. carl February 28th, 2009 at 11:18 am

    Brad Pitt’s better-looking brother
    February 28th, 2009 at 11:08 am
    Carl, I’m not sure that last one was a typo.
    Melky could be said to have had the switch jitters last season.
    _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _
    haha good one

  54. Betsy February 28th, 2009 at 11:22 am

    Boy, what bad news to wake up to if you are a Met fan. I hate the team and their whiny fans, but I wouldn’t wish that sick feeling on anyone because it could easily happen to us. Every pitcher is a walking time bomb – you just have to hope you get lucky. I hope Johan is ok……

    Except for Joba, sounds like a blah pitching lineup. I guess it might be interesting to see if Geise can do ok in ST and make the team as a long man. Veras is going to make the team, so obviously I hope he has a good spring as well…..Igawa? Ugh, well the Yankees need someone to pitch these games given the long ST – but I never want to have to see this guy again, ever.

    I like the fact that Tex appears to be consistent from both sides of the plate – he’s just a very good overall player, period. It’s going to be a treat watching him play 1B this year and for years to come – no more revolving door, thank goodness.

  55. SW2 February 28th, 2009 at 11:27 am

    Lariano vs. Joba….

    Maybe we’ll be seeing this matchup again in the fall

  56. RalphieD (for free sports betting look here http://www.centsports.com/?opcode=317843) February 28th, 2009 at 11:27 am

    Players I want to see today: Joba, Dunn, Swish and Tex…

    hopefully ajax or montero can get an ab after the starters come out…

  57. Betsy February 28th, 2009 at 11:28 am

    http://bombersbeat.mlblogs.com/

    The “others” are Robertson, Jackson and Texeira …..

  58. Betsy February 28th, 2009 at 11:31 am

    http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/yankees/

    Interesting stuff from Kennedy -

    asked Kennedy a question if he took his spot in the rotation last spring for granted, figuring he would say no. He surprised me, admitting that he did in fact take it for granted, something he’s unlikely to ever do again.

    “I came to spring training thinking I had that job,” he said. “I was more content, where this spring training I’m hungry to beat out anybody I can. It’s go-time. It’s a little different.”

    ***Well, Ian’s refreshingly honest here. If he’s learned from his mistakes, then he’ll be ok.

  59. randyhater February 28th, 2009 at 12:00 pm

    Refreshingly honest = prone to putting his foot in his mouth

    I like Kennedy and still think he can be a solid pitcher. But he talks too much for a guy who’s done so little.

    Watch the Captain, kid, and do what he does.

  60. Tom February 28th, 2009 at 12:08 pm

    Gardner and Coke win some sort of award:

    YANKEES NAME OF BRETT GARDNER AND LHP PHIL COKE WINNERS OF THE 2008 KEVIN LAWN “PLAYER OF THE YEAR” AND “PITCHER OF THE YEAR” AWARDS

    The New York Yankees today announced that outfielder Brett Gardner and left-handed pitcher Phil Coke were named winners of the Yankees’ 2008 Kevin Lawn Award as the Yankees’ minor league “Player of the Year” and “Pitcher of the Year.” The two players will receive their awards prior to the Yankees game today vs. the Minnesota Twins.

    The annual awards are dedicated to Kevin O’Brien Lawn, the son of long-time Yankees Vice President and Chief of Operations Jack Lawn, who passed away in 1999. The Yankees are proud to welcome Jack and his wife, Virginia, to George M. Steinbrenner Field today.”

  61. PAT M. February 28th, 2009 at 12:10 pm

    All he did was answer the question….Ian is going to be a good reliable # 4 type starter who will win 13-14 games a season….He’s going to a have a nice career…

  62. Tom February 28th, 2009 at 12:15 pm

    This is pretty cool, per Mike Ashmore’s blog:

    “(PR) The Trenton Thunder, the Double-A affiliate of the New York Yankees, will host a free event at Waterfront Park called the “Welcome North Fan Fest” on Tuesday, April 7 from 3-7 PM.

    At 3:00 PM, Waterfront Park gates open and fans can view the team’s first practice of the year in Trenton. From 5:15 PM to 6:15 PM fans will get the opportunity to go onto the field and receive autographs from the Thunder players. Waterfront Park concession stands will be open throughout the event.”

    http://thunderbaseball.wordpress.com/

  63. Burnett after reading February 28th, 2009 at 12:16 pm

    I think it is hilarious that this blog started back when someone might have considered trading for Barry Zito. When I re-read what you wrote about trading Hughes for Zito I was laughing hysterically.

  64. 86w183 February 28th, 2009 at 12:18 pm

    What you look for in young players is development on and off the field. I think what Kennedy said speaks very well for a cocky young guy bordering on Nuka La-Loosh and a highly valued pitching talent trying to make it to the show.

    Mets have to be really concerned about Santana. I hope for the best because I never root for injuries to happen to anyone. There were signs in 2007 and again in 2008 that he was fading physically in subtle ways.

    Just to digress if the Jets get Lito Sheppard for a # 5 and a contingent pick in 2010 that’s a great deal.

  65. whozat February 28th, 2009 at 12:20 pm

    “But he talks too much for a guy who’s done so little.”

    If he’d said “no, I didn’t take it for granted,” you’d be calling him a liar, saying that you could tell by looking at him that he was complacent.

  66. Ed - 2009 season can't start soon enough February 28th, 2009 at 12:23 pm

    “Big news from Mets camp. Johan Santana is out “indefinitely” with a sore elbow.”

    where’s those people that wanted Santana a few years ago?

  67. Vrsce February 28th, 2009 at 12:24 pm

    whozat

    Were’nt you very very critical of Kennedy last year?

  68. Burnett after reading February 28th, 2009 at 12:27 pm

    Jorge scratched because of discomfort in his shoulder.

  69. whozat February 28th, 2009 at 12:27 pm

    “Were’nt you very very critical of Kennedy last year?”

    Not that I recall. If there was criticism of Kennedy on here from someone calling himself “whozat”, it was an impostor.

    I mean…I might’ve called him out for becoming predictable and batshy, but not for his post-game comments and stuff.

  70. RalphieD (for free sports betting look here http://www.centsports.com/?opcode=317843) February 28th, 2009 at 12:27 pm

    i hope this jorge scratch is just regular getting back from surgery pain

  71. GreenBeret7 February 28th, 2009 at 12:27 pm

    Vrsce
    February 28th, 2009 at 12:24 pm
    whozat

    Were’nt you very very critical of Kennedy last year?

    ————————————————————

    There were a lot of people that were critical of Kennedy last year, but, that has nothing to do with what he admitted to yesterday.

  72. tyler February 28th, 2009 at 12:27 pm

    shoulder discomfort… better not be serious

  73. whozat February 28th, 2009 at 12:28 pm

    “Jorge scratched because of discomfort in his shoulder.”

    That’s tremendously bad.

  74. chaossolver February 28th, 2009 at 12:28 pm

    who cares about santana’s elbow concerns… it sounds more ominous when pete talk about Posada being scratched for elbow soreness…

  75. chaossolver February 28th, 2009 at 12:29 pm

    sorry, stupid question, but what did kennedy admit to yesterday? was he hurt last year or something?

  76. Alex February 28th, 2009 at 12:29 pm

    Before he arrived, Swisher never thought the pinstriped universe could tolerate such free-spirited behavior.

    “I thought you’d hear a pin drop in the locker room, [and that it was] very corporate. But that’s not the case,” Swisher said. “The biggest thing that [manager Joe Girardi] stressed to us is that, if this team can come together, we’ve got a chance to do some special things.”

    “I’m back to being myself,” Swisher said. “I’m back to having that fire and that passion for this game.”

    “I don’t feel like I have to walk on eggshells. I don’t feel like if I do something, I’m going to offend anybody,” said Swisher, 28. “All these great players, who just welcomed in a nobody like me.”

    http://www.northjersey.com/spo.....nkees.html

  77. Joba Da Heat February 28th, 2009 at 12:30 pm

    Better give Kevin Cash some extended ABs… looks like he’ll be needed a lot this year

  78. PAT M. February 28th, 2009 at 12:34 pm

    It was my belief that if Jorge was going to have issues with his repaired shoulder it would be when he hit from the left side…..It’s part of the healing process….Muscle soreness….

  79. GreenBeret7 February 28th, 2009 at 12:34 pm

    As long as Posada’s shoulder is only sore, it’s not that big an issue. If there]s an ache or pain, then, it’s an issue.

  80. RalphieD (for free sports betting look here http://www.centsports.com/?opcode=317843) February 28th, 2009 at 12:35 pm

    lets not jump off the deep end about posada yet….he is coming off major surgery and hasnt had any set backs prior to today

  81. Betsy February 28th, 2009 at 12:35 pm

    Oh boy – Jorge scratched. Now I have a sick feeling in my stomach……….not a good day for NY teams.

  82. DT February 28th, 2009 at 12:36 pm

    FYI – besides YES, today’s game will be shown on the MLB Network at 5:00 pm (taped delay)

  83. RonH February 28th, 2009 at 12:37 pm

    Pete, please keep us posted on Posada. Normal (expected) soreness or something else!?

  84. Brian from PA February 28th, 2009 at 12:38 pm

    “Posada has been scratched because of shoulder discomfort.”

    Awesome.

  85. Tom February 28th, 2009 at 12:42 pm

    Scar tissue?

  86. Rebecca-Optimist Prime...Staying to Write the Story February 28th, 2009 at 12:42 pm

    Uh oh.

  87. Corey February 28th, 2009 at 12:43 pm

    thanks DT I was getting annoyed since I didnt buy my MLB.TV Premium package yet and just went to look at MLBNetwork and 1pm is the rays & phillies….damn near had a heart attack

  88. Brian from PA February 28th, 2009 at 12:44 pm

    not trying to get ahead of myself or overreact here, because it could just be normal soreness because of the time of year, but if we lose posada for a lot of time this year, the yankees need to get out on that trade market and find the best young catcher available before boston does..

  89. Burnett after reading February 28th, 2009 at 12:45 pm

    Uh oh look what I’ve done with my last post. Please give it a few days to see how the shoulder reacts to rest. I have had surgery and there is always going to be soreness when you get back into daily activities or something that he hasn’t been doing all winter like swinging a baseball bat.

  90. sill February 28th, 2009 at 12:46 pm

    any feeds of the game ONLINE TODAY?

  91. Steve M February 28th, 2009 at 12:48 pm

    It’s February 28th, I am very positive that if Posada was originally in the lineup only to get a last minute scratch that this is just a case of spring precaution. He’ll be fine.

  92. Chris February 28th, 2009 at 12:49 pm

    This will be Girardi’s first test of how forthcoming he will be about injuries this season.

  93. Betsy February 28th, 2009 at 12:49 pm

    Cool article on Swish – thanks for posting!

    Cool article about Swish. It always seemed as if new guys had to check their personalities at the front door and that’s not good – who wants to have to watch what they say and do all the time? Baseball is a long, grueling season – if you can’t be yourself for 6 months, it’s going to be an uncomfortable time and certainly not conducive to good performances. We’ll see how Swish does this year, but I think he’ll return to form.

  94. Brian from PA February 28th, 2009 at 12:51 pm

    I know I’m overreacting about Jorge but i just got down ripping into a Mets fan about Johan and i believe in karma….

  95. Bob(The Original) February 28th, 2009 at 12:55 pm

    Whatever this is with Posada, hopefully it serves as a reminder to Cashman that the prospect of having Molina start more than 30-40 games could kill the Yanks this season.

  96. Rob NY -- 2009 The Road to Redemption February 28th, 2009 at 12:58 pm

    I don’t think the problem is going to be Jose having to play full time. If he does so be it. I think that the problem is Jose in conjunction with the possibility of a black hole in CF making to replacement level or worse players in the everyday lineup that scares me a little bit. Taking either point as a given at this juncture is a bit premature though, Jorge is just sore.

  97. Rob NY -- 2009 The Road to Redemption February 28th, 2009 at 12:59 pm

    to should be two.

  98. Brandon (CC/AJ/Marky Mark..4 DAYS& PEDS !) Atleast I'm not GreenBeret7 February 28th, 2009 at 1:00 pm

    That’s not good news on Johan, I don’t wish ill on any SP but are we surprised it happened to him I mean the signs were there. :(

    Joba and Dunn today can’t wait…is it televised ?

  99. Brian from PA February 28th, 2009 at 1:01 pm

    If Jorge winds up missing a significant amount of time this year, i think the (theoretically) improved pitching will be our saving grace. I mean they still won 89 games last year without Posada or Matsui in the lineup and a really, really spotty rotation. It would suck and I’d be really worried about it if Jorge was hurt this year but I think the pitching is the key to our success this season. The offense will be ok.

  100. GreenBeret7 February 28th, 2009 at 1:01 pm

    I don’t recll seeing any decent catchers on the market as Free Agents or for trade….and, no, Saltalamacchia is not worth trading for. He’s a brutal defendive catcher and has yet to prove that he can it any better than Molina.

  101. Rob NY -- 2009 The Road to Redemption February 28th, 2009 at 1:03 pm

    Maybe I’m a bit touched but is Jeff Marquez scheduled to be the White Sox opening day starter? If so, why?

  102. Bob(The Original) February 28th, 2009 at 1:04 pm

    Rob NY — 2009 The Road to Redemption
    February 28th, 2009 at 12:58 pm
    I don’t think the problem is going to be Jose having to play full time. If he does so be it. I think that the problem is Jose in conjunction with the possibility of a black hole in CF making to replacement level or worse players in the everyday lineup that scares me a little bit. Taking either point as a given at this juncture is a bit premature though, Jorge is just sore.

    —————————————–

    Molina as anything more than a once a week backup is terrible. You can’t go into a season saying, “Well we can carry a bad bat at such a such a position.” Inevitably someone else is going to get hurt, someone is gonna have a down year and then you have below replacement level guys at least three positions. We saw last year how that crippled the Yanks offense.

    For all the good moves he made this offseason, Cashman neglecting to get a quality catcher to backup/replace Posada could be a disaster this season.

  103. GreenBeret7 February 28th, 2009 at 1:04 pm

    prove that he can ***hit*** any better than Molina

  104. Ed - 2009 season can't start soon enough February 28th, 2009 at 1:04 pm

    Brandon,

    Yea, the game is on Yes.

  105. Ralph Daddy from L.A. February 28th, 2009 at 1:06 pm

    I see someone posted about Salty… Looking at that lineup we need to get a young starting catcher. Salty, Montero or even Martin if possible… we got the pitching depth and even though I love Hughes… we can surely get a good package ready for someone.

    We need an understudy to Posada like NOW.

  106. Rob NY -- 2009 The Road to Redemption February 28th, 2009 at 1:09 pm

    Bob — The problem I think is that there really wasn’t much out there in the catching department. The Sox need a new catcher pretty seriously and they couldn’t put their hands on one what makes you think Cash could have done much better? I just think that catcher isn’t an offensive position and accepting that we’d have an easier time trying to make up for production finding a suitable replacement for CF in-season (if our two guys don’t pan out) than a starter to backup Jorge. If we can get decent production from some combination of Gardner/Melky than I can’t see it as sinking the ship to be forced to play Molina more than we’d like.

  107. YankeeVIP February 28th, 2009 at 1:09 pm

    come on!! whats going on with jorge..

    this cant be good and jorge is a major component of this team.. im very worried

  108. JKidd February 28th, 2009 at 1:09 pm

    Great… the injuries are starting to pile up. First Edwar, then Jeter’s sore hammy, now Jorge.

    Injuries were the one thing that could derail this great season of ours and it looks like it is happening early. Jorge is the key to our season and it already looks like he won’t be a factor this season

    UGH, my outlook for this season just went down the drain…

  109. Brandon (CC/AJ/Marky Mark..4 DAYS& PEDS !) Atleast I'm not GreenBeret7 February 28th, 2009 at 1:10 pm

    ‘Brandon,

    Yea, the game is on Yes.’

    Thanks.

  110. Nick February 28th, 2009 at 1:10 pm

    Looks like plenty of time for Molina this year. Now they absolutely need to go out and get a legit CF. We can;’t have 2 blackholes in the lineup.

  111. GreenBeret7 February 28th, 2009 at 1:10 pm

    Jesus, some people need to put that razor down and take a valium. The report was “some discomfort”, not that he was rollin on the floor in knee buckling pain.

  112. S.A.-The 2009 MLB season is almost here February 28th, 2009 at 1:13 pm

    Hope everything is alright with Posada.

    Let’s go Joba

  113. Jeff February 28th, 2009 at 1:13 pm

    Posada, please be OK!

  114. Bob(The Original) February 28th, 2009 at 1:13 pm

    GreenBeret7
    February 28th, 2009 at 1:01 pm
    I don’t recll seeing any decent catchers on the market as Free Agents or for trade….and, no, Saltalamacchia is not worth trading for. He’s a brutal defendive catcher and has yet to prove that he can it any better than Molina.

    ——————————–

    Are you insane?

    Now I don’t know if they could have gotten him but to say anyone isn’t a better hitter than Molina is crazy talk.

    Which guy would you rather have?

    Player TEAM POS G AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI TB BB SO SB CS OBP SLG AVG

    1. J Molina* NYY C 100 268 32 58 17 0 3 18 84 12 52 0 0 .263 .313 .216

    2. J Saltalamacchia* TEX C 61 198 27 50 13 0 3 26 72 31 74 0 2 .352 .364 .253

  115. Forntoso February 28th, 2009 at 1:13 pm

    Guys… opening day is 5 weeks away. He’ll be fine

  116. Brad Pitt's better-looking brother February 28th, 2009 at 1:14 pm

    Enough with the sky is falling posts because Posada is being held out of an early spring training game.
    More over-reactors here than in a nuke plant.

    And you don’t want Salty to be your catcher unless you think they’re playing fantasy baseball only out there. He is nowhere near what we need defensively and soon the same people calling for him now would be whining about his D.

    And you can’t just whip up trades for Martin or anyone else. It doesn’t work that way kids. Again, this isn’t fantasy baseball.

  117. Betsy February 28th, 2009 at 1:14 pm

    http://njmg.typepad.com/yankeesblog/

    That’s good news, but silly Jorge for scaring us like that, doing those shoulder excercises…….He really should have held off.

  118. Joe from Long Island February 28th, 2009 at 1:15 pm

    I agree with GB7′s point that there are no first-line catchers available, not by FA or trade. If there were, does anyone think the Red Sox would have brought back Jason “automatic out” Varitek? I don’t think the Twins are giving away Joe Mauer, nor the Orioles Matt Wieter.

    It’s one thing to want something, another thing to actually face reality. The reality is that Posada-quality catchers are not falling from trees.

  119. Bob(The Original) February 28th, 2009 at 1:17 pm

    It’s one thing to want something, another thing to actually face reality. The reality is that Posada-quality catchers are not falling from trees.

    ———————

    Of course you aren’t gonna replace Posada, but there certainly are much better options out there than Molina. How do some of you not realize how awful he is? The few extra guys he may throw out prevent way fewer runs than he gives away with his brutal hitting.

  120. GreenBeret7 February 28th, 2009 at 1:18 pm

    Bob(The Original)
    February 28th, 2009 at 1:13 pm
    GreenBeret7
    February 28th, 2009 at 1:01 pm
    I don’t recll seeing any decent catchers on the market as Free Agents or for trade….and, no, Saltalamacchia is not worth trading for. He’s a brutal defendive catcher and has yet to prove that he can it any better than Molina.
    ————————————————
    Are you insane?

    Now I don’t know if they could have gotten him but to say anyone isn’t a better hitter than Molina is crazy talk.

    Which guy would you rather have?

    Player TEAM POS G AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI TB BB SO SB CS OBP SLG AVG

    1. J Molina* NYY C 100 268 32 58 17 0 3 18 84 12 52 0 0 .263 .313 .216

    2. J Saltalamacchia* TEX C 61 198 27 50 13 0 3 26 72 31 74 0 2 .352 .364 .253

    ————————————————————

    I’ll take Molina’s defnsive skills over the slight offensive improvement from Saltalamacchia any time.

  121. Wander February 28th, 2009 at 1:19 pm

    Is anyone trying to listen online to wcbs? Is it working for anyone?

  122. john February 28th, 2009 at 1:19 pm

    why is joba only throwing in the mid-upper 80s?

  123. jb February 28th, 2009 at 1:19 pm

    radar gun? joba not breaking 90 yet?

  124. Pel February 28th, 2009 at 1:20 pm

    Joba sitting around 89MPH.

  125. trisha - As long as you're in pinstripes, Kei, I've got your back. February 28th, 2009 at 1:21 pm

    Just stopping in to say that I was definitely someone who was down on Ian Kennedy last season and wanted him so far away it isn’t funny. I will readily admit that nothing that he has said or done thus far has caused me to change my mind…

    (I’m always willing to rethink my position, but from where I am on the Kennedy spectrum it is going to take much more than a quote for me to change my mind.)

    On the other hand, MAN ALIVE I LOVE JOSE MOLINA!

  126. Mark in Tampa February 28th, 2009 at 1:21 pm

    I wrote on here last week that Posada will have some sore days and probably a setback or two. This is hopefully the normal process of the recovery from surgery. But, if it isn’t, there is always that Pudge guy out there. Why don’t we give him a try? Oh, wait, we did that already.

  127. Rob NY -- 2009 The Road to Redemption February 28th, 2009 at 1:21 pm

    why is joba only throwing in the mid-upper 80s?

    Because it’s February.

  128. jb February 28th, 2009 at 1:22 pm

    Joba looks like he is throwing batting practice. Hope he is just taking is easy

  129. Rebecca-Optimist Prime...Staying to Write the Story February 28th, 2009 at 1:22 pm

    Holy crap Joba

  130. Ed - 2009 season can't start soon enough February 28th, 2009 at 1:22 pm

    not good, not good.

  131. Brandon (CC/AJ/Marky Mark..4 DAYS& PEDS !) Atleast I'm not GreenBeret7 February 28th, 2009 at 1:22 pm

    ‘radar gun? joba not breaking 90 yet?’

    Why would anyone air it out in game 1 ST ?

  132. carl February 28th, 2009 at 1:22 pm

    joba is sitting at 88

  133. deja February 28th, 2009 at 1:22 pm

    2-0 twins? time to trade joba lol

  134. trisha - As long as you're in pinstripes, Kei, I've got your back. February 28th, 2009 at 1:22 pm

    Delmon Young rocks. When he was scouted they said that he was definitely the better of the Youngs – and Dmitri isn’t chopped liver.

  135. Pel February 28th, 2009 at 1:22 pm

    Joba’s looking fantastic so far.

  136. RalphieD (for free sports betting look here http://www.centsports.com/?opcode=317843) February 28th, 2009 at 1:23 pm

    its pretty obvious joba is not throwing with the velocity he normally does….taking it slow not airing it out yet…its only feb 28

  137. PAT M. February 28th, 2009 at 1:23 pm

    Geez Joba, get the ball down

  138. jb February 28th, 2009 at 1:23 pm

    February? His motion looks off to me. Poor mechanics? I mean Hughes was low 90s the other day, Coke, etc.

  139. NY Lifer February 28th, 2009 at 1:24 pm

    Woah… Lasers off Joba’s FB.

    It’s a good thing it’s just Spring training.

  140. Tom AZA February 28th, 2009 at 1:24 pm

    Joba not looking good.

    He better get it together quickly, as Hughes is right on his tail and looked good on Thursday.

    If Joba has a below average Spring and Hughes is lights out, the Yankees may reconsider their rotation. Or atleast have Joba on a very short leash to start the yr.

  141. jimmy1138 February 28th, 2009 at 1:24 pm

    No worries. It’s still early in spring training.

  142. LakeMichigan February 28th, 2009 at 1:24 pm

    Joba’s leaving everything way up. Not the best start, but he’s not pushing it (as should be the case in his first inning of the spring).

  143. yankee 822 February 28th, 2009 at 1:24 pm

    Hughes and Kennedy may have a shot to pitch in the rotation afterall…

  144. Mark in Tampa February 28th, 2009 at 1:25 pm

    “he was definitely the better of the Youngs – and Dmitri isn’t chopped liver.”

    Trisha,

    About 4 years ago, he was the number 1 rated prospect in all of baseball.

  145. Burnett after reading February 28th, 2009 at 1:25 pm

    I missed where it was stated that Joba was going to be doing his best Paul Quantrill impression.

  146. A-List February 28th, 2009 at 1:25 pm

    Joba looks like he lost weight. I hope it didn’t affect his velocity.

  147. trisha - As long as you're in pinstripes, Kei, I've got your back. February 28th, 2009 at 1:26 pm

    “No worries. It’s still early in spring training.”

    :lol:

    Seriously, vapors for the REAL faint of heart here, no big deal for the rest of us.

  148. Mark in Tampa February 28th, 2009 at 1:26 pm

    Joba is not an ACE!

  149. Rudy February 28th, 2009 at 1:26 pm

    Guys…. it’s Joba’s first spring training start. Let’s be realistic. You guys expect greatness out of him always, jeez.

  150. jb February 28th, 2009 at 1:26 pm

    Bad control. He defintiely looks like his mechanics are out of whack. I would assume not pitching for so long. Also not sure how accurate the gun is there. Maybe Pete can give us a better take?

  151. 7*7 February 28th, 2009 at 1:27 pm

    Only 1 inning for Joba? Great, looks like we get to see 3 innings of Igawa.

  152. NY Lifer February 28th, 2009 at 1:27 pm

    Hey people. Calm down. This is the first inning Joba ever threw in ST. I’m sure he’ll be fine. Just a little rust.

  153. trisha - As long as you're in pinstripes, Kei, I've got your back. February 28th, 2009 at 1:27 pm

    Mark, I love watching top-rated prospects get the job done. Especially the power hitter variety!

  154. Pel February 28th, 2009 at 1:28 pm

    CC’s gonna be throwing 88 MPH fastballs when it’s his turn.

    lol

  155. Fran February 28th, 2009 at 1:28 pm

    I wouldn’t worry aboaut Joba. This is what spring training is for. Work on mechanics, pitches,etc.

  156. Ed - 2009 season can't start soon enough February 28th, 2009 at 1:28 pm

    “Bad control. He defintiely looks like his mechanics are out of whack. I would assume not pitching for so long.”

    someone needs to take baseball : spring training 101.

  157. Brandon (CC/AJ/Marky Mark..4 DAYS& PEDS !) Atleast I'm not GreenBeret7 February 28th, 2009 at 1:29 pm

    ‘Hey people. Calm down. This is the first inning Joba ever threw in ST. I’m sure he’ll be fine. Just a little rust.’

    He clearly has to be perfect in game 1. If not it is the end of his career.

  158. LakeMichigan February 28th, 2009 at 1:30 pm

    No need to over-react. First inning. This is the time to work things out so innings like that don’t happen in April.

  159. trisha - As long as you're in pinstripes, Kei, I've got your back. February 28th, 2009 at 1:30 pm

    I seriously wish Pete had two separate threads, one for the constant worriers and the other for the constant warriors!

    It amazes me to watch people panic at the very beginning of spring training. It probably amazes worrywarts to see others think it’s really okay for Joba not to be pitching like Cy Young right now.

    And, so I have found, never the twain shall meet here!

    :D

  160. Brandon (CC/AJ/Marky Mark..4 DAYS& PEDS !) Atleast I'm not GreenBeret7 February 28th, 2009 at 1:30 pm

    ‘someone needs to take baseball : spring training 101.’

    That dude sounds like he’s never played baseball at all.

  161. carl February 28th, 2009 at 1:31 pm

    tex with a double

  162. Distd February 28th, 2009 at 1:31 pm

    Marky Mark!!!

  163. RalphieD (for free sports betting look here http://www.centsports.com/?opcode=317843) February 28th, 2009 at 1:31 pm

    very nice hit by tex…

  164. jb February 28th, 2009 at 1:31 pm

    Ha funny. That’s all well and good, but he still looked terrible and that is also in comparison to everyone else we have seen pitch so far.

  165. Rob NY -- 2009 The Road to Redemption February 28th, 2009 at 1:31 pm

    Distd
    February 28th, 2009 at 1:31 pm
    Marky Mark!!!

    And the Funky Bunch steps into the box after him!

  166. Ed - 2009 season can't start soon enough February 28th, 2009 at 1:31 pm

    “That dude sounds like he’s never played baseball at all.” :lol:

    Teixeria coming up clutch hits for us.I likey. c’mon A-Rod!!

  167. trisha - As long as you're in pinstripes, Kei, I've got your back. February 28th, 2009 at 1:32 pm

    Phew! I’m happy when the warriors are here.

    Meanwhile, told ya we needed Tex! (I’m lying. I didn’t want him.)

    :D

  168. JINT February 28th, 2009 at 1:32 pm

    Teixeria’s power stroke reminds me of Matt Halladay’s,

    that was a THUNDEROUS double

  169. Brad Pitt's better-looking brother February 28th, 2009 at 1:32 pm

    First day on the mound in ST is all about form and mechanics, people. Joba probably threw nothing but average fastballs mixed in with a few changes, if that.

    OK, how long until the articles about ARod now only having warning track power???

  170. Rebecca-Optimist Prime...Staying to Write the Story February 28th, 2009 at 1:32 pm

    dude, Alex did something good!

    Oh, and dude, guys, U2 is coming to Fordham on Friday. I am stoked.

  171. Jasper February 28th, 2009 at 1:32 pm

    Are you people kidding me? Joba is fine, he is not losing velocity because he lost weight. He is taking it easy, it is his first start in ST, it is Feb 28th. He was throwing effortlessly. Relax, he will be just fine. I don’t understand why people get worked up over these games. He was also working on his change up that inning, believe I saw him throw 4.

    He is not losing his fifth starter job to Hughes unless he gets injured.

  172. jb February 28th, 2009 at 1:32 pm

    Never played baseball at all? Actually I have, but I assume you have played pro ball and a full season in the pros making you an expert on spring training.

  173. Ed - 2009 season can't start soon enough February 28th, 2009 at 1:33 pm

    Swish, with a cheap rbi? I take it. :D

  174. Brandon (CC/AJ/Marky Mark..4 DAYS& PEDS !) Atleast I'm not GreenBeret7 February 28th, 2009 at 1:33 pm

    Teixeira’s mechanics are clearly off, he needs to drive the ball more w/ his back leg :lol:

  175. RalphieD (for free sports betting look here http://www.centsports.com/?opcode=317843) February 28th, 2009 at 1:33 pm

    haha tex would of scooped that

  176. Burnett after reading February 28th, 2009 at 1:33 pm

    I love the teix took the ball the other way on an outside pitch…a coaches dream.

  177. Betsy February 28th, 2009 at 1:33 pm

    Tex! What a beautiful, beautiful swing – how I love this guy!

    Good job by Alex getting the run home – I hope this carries over (for everyone) into the season.

  178. carl February 28th, 2009 at 1:34 pm

    Wow arod got all cheers

  179. Redding February 28th, 2009 at 1:34 pm

    Hey Lariano gave up 2 runs too… i guess his career is over too!!!

  180. Rob NY -- 2009 The Road to Redemption February 28th, 2009 at 1:35 pm

    ZoMG Liriano’s mechanics are broken. He cant get the fastball over for strikes.

  181. Brandon (CC/AJ/Marky Mark..4 DAYS& PEDS !) Atleast I'm not GreenBeret7 February 28th, 2009 at 1:35 pm

    ‘Never played baseball at all? Actually I have, but I assume you have played pro ball and a full season in the pros making you an expert on spring training.’

    My guess is you played minor league baseball huh ? I played amateurs in the Dominican Rep. Da Jabon, practiced w/ others too but that….is Robi taking pitches ?

  182. Brandon (CC/AJ/Marky Mark..4 DAYS& PEDS !) Atleast I'm not GreenBeret7 February 28th, 2009 at 1:36 pm

    Robi taking pitches ?

  183. Rob February 28th, 2009 at 1:36 pm

    robbie walks! we’re gonna win the world series!!!!

  184. Betsy February 28th, 2009 at 1:36 pm

    The only thing that concerns me with Joba is the fact that he apparently (because I’m no expert on mechanics) throws more with his arm than with his legs. If that’s the case (and if I’m wrong, please disavow me of this notion), he’s an arm problem waiting to happen.

  185. carl February 28th, 2009 at 1:36 pm

    Molina will kill the rally

  186. Ed - 2009 season can't start soon enough February 28th, 2009 at 1:36 pm

    “is Robi taking pitches ?”

    he is.:shock:

  187. Guard February 28th, 2009 at 1:36 pm

    It’s still surreal that we have Teix.

    I still have to pinch myself that we have him for the next 8 years, his switch hitting power, patience, and gold glove defense and top notch character.

  188. Rob NY -- 2009 The Road to Redemption February 28th, 2009 at 1:36 pm

    Brandon — Yeah my eyes are failing me but I think he was able to hold up on a tough pitch and TAKE A WALK!

  189. S.A.-The 2009 MLB season is almost here February 28th, 2009 at 1:37 pm

    Working Liriano. Me like

  190. Brandon (CC/AJ/Marky Mark..4 DAYS& PEDS !) Atleast I'm not GreenBeret7 February 28th, 2009 at 1:38 pm

    Oh great no we get to see Igawa :(

  191. Rebecca-Optimist Prime...Staying to Write the Story February 28th, 2009 at 1:38 pm

    Hey, if even molina is getting wood on the ball i guess we’re in for a 20-18 game.

  192. PC Mozx February 28th, 2009 at 1:38 pm

    Joba does have pretty violent mechanics… you can see why he is injury prone.

    Nardi got the untapped velocity from him, but his mechanics/violent delivery are not conducive to durability. Thats why Joba is injury prone, not because of his weight like people think.

  193. m February 28th, 2009 at 1:39 pm

    Alex with the sac fly? Cano with the walk? I like! Way to go Nick & Mark!

  194. Burnett after reading February 28th, 2009 at 1:40 pm

    Betsy,

    I don’t mean this offensively but you would not have said that about Joba until the other day when Pete posted about him needing to use his legs more. He has very good mechanics but they could be better. Pete was simply saying that after watching C.C. who is possibly the best at using his rotund lower half to power the ball, that Joba could learn a thing or two from C.C.

  195. Number 2 February 28th, 2009 at 1:40 pm

    Molina does not instill confidnce in me.

    Go trade something or somebody for Saltalamaachia, Max Ramirez, TeaGarden, or Angel Salmone

  196. Mark in Tampa February 28th, 2009 at 1:41 pm

    You have to remember that most of the pitchers who have thrown so far are the guys who are trying to impress and trying to make rosters. Mostly, they have been pitching or throwing all winter. T
    The guys that are established, and I think Joba falls in that category, are just starting to get in their rhythm now. It’s going to take 2 or 3 starts before we see them at full speed. Expect AJ and CC to be around 89-92 on the gun as well. Probably very few breaking balls or offspeed for a start or two, also.

  197. Fran February 28th, 2009 at 1:41 pm

    O/T – Matt Cassel was traded to the Chiefs. Guess the Patriots are expecting Brady back.

  198. sweet lou February 28th, 2009 at 1:41 pm

    WOW, Igawa looks different. He cut his hair?

  199. S.A.-The 2009 MLB season is almost here February 28th, 2009 at 1:41 pm

    Giese time

  200. Ed - 2009 season can't start soon enough February 28th, 2009 at 1:42 pm

    it’s Giese, someone whose not a bust named Igawa. lol

  201. Joe from Long Island February 28th, 2009 at 1:43 pm

    Betsy – you’re not alone in that observation about Joba. Pete posted about that a few days ago, I think. He mentioned that Joba might take a few cues from CC, who really uses his legs to generate speed and strength. I’m not a pitching coach, of course, and you don’t want to mess too much with what’s successful, but it seems to make sense. Wonder if Joba can do it, though.

  202. Brandon (CC/AJ/Marky Mark..4 DAYS& PEDS !) Atleast I'm not GreenBeret7 February 28th, 2009 at 1:44 pm

    And again it’s just ST

  203. Betsy February 28th, 2009 at 1:44 pm

    geez, that ball didn’t look like it was going out at first – I thought it was just a routine fly ball.

  204. Don February 28th, 2009 at 1:45 pm

    You guys are aware that these pitchers are throwing about 2 weeks before they are supposed to right? No coincidence that most of them look bad and are throwing batting practice. Don’t judge until the middle of March

  205. Brandon (CC/AJ/Marky Mark..4 DAYS& PEDS !) Atleast I'm not GreenBeret7 February 28th, 2009 at 1:45 pm

    ‘O/T – Matt Cassel was traded to the Chiefs. Guess the Patriots are expecting Brady back.’

    Chiefs finally have a QB ?

  206. Fran February 28th, 2009 at 1:46 pm

    Betsy – I think that Damon did too. He went back like he was going to get it.

  207. Brad Pitt's better-looking brother February 28th, 2009 at 1:48 pm

    Mark in T.

    was waiting on you but I guess I’ll do the honors…

    GIESE IS NOT AN ACE!

  208. Rebecca-Optimist Prime...Staying to Write the Story February 28th, 2009 at 1:49 pm

    Brandon: and the Jets still don’t!

  209. deja February 28th, 2009 at 1:49 pm

    wow melky actually layed down a bunt right

  210. carl February 28th, 2009 at 1:49 pm

    great bunt for the melk

  211. R-Tek February 28th, 2009 at 1:49 pm

    Melky bunting for a basehit – taking a page out of Gardner’s book

    Looks like this competition may not be decided after-all.

  212. Ham Fighters February 28th, 2009 at 1:49 pm

    all i care about concerning joba is how does his arm feel tomorrow. as long as he feels fine tomorrow, it was a good outing to me.

  213. S.A.-The 2009 MLB season is almost here February 28th, 2009 at 1:49 pm

    Nice Melky

  214. PAT M. February 28th, 2009 at 1:49 pm

    If Duncan could just shorten his swing he maight be alright…..Melky drops a bunt, very good

  215. carl February 28th, 2009 at 1:50 pm

    great bunt for damon

  216. Ed - 2009 season can't start soon enough February 28th, 2009 at 1:51 pm

    In other spring training news: the Phillies are picking up where they left off in the World Series. They are pounding the Rays.

  217. Betsy February 28th, 2009 at 1:51 pm

    Damon……nice bunt. I like what I’m seeing – well-excecuted small ball

  218. Mark in Tampa February 28th, 2009 at 1:51 pm

    You all realize that all the “experts” were certain that Mark Prior had perfect pitching mechanics? And that Randy Johnson throws using mostly all arm? Sometimes it just doesn’t matter, some guys are destined to be injury prone, and some will never or rarely get hurt. Hopefully Joba will be the latter.

  219. PAT M. February 28th, 2009 at 1:51 pm

    Fundamental baseball in game 4 of Spring Training,,,Ya got like it

  220. S.A.-The 2009 MLB season is almost here February 28th, 2009 at 1:51 pm

    All tied up! Woo!

    Oh yeah, these games don’t count

  221. Brandon (CC/AJ/Marky Mark..4 DAYS& PEDS !) Atleast I'm not GreenBeret7 February 28th, 2009 at 1:52 pm

    ‘Brandon: and the Jets still don’t!’

    But what about that guy I can’t remember his name right now but there is a serviceable FA QB who is outstanding athletically out there but he comes w/ much baggage

  222. Mark in Tampa February 28th, 2009 at 1:52 pm

    Thanks, Brad Pitt’s BLB

  223. Rob February 28th, 2009 at 1:53 pm

    How many pitches did joba throw?

  224. trisha - As long as you're in pinstripes, Kei, I've got your back. February 28th, 2009 at 1:54 pm

    Yankees bunting! Yahoo.

    Ham – no no no! You are supposed to be in a total panic about Joba. Right now you should be saying that obviously all the scouting reports were wrong and everything you’ve seen with your own eyes is just a mirage.

    TRADE JOBA NOW!

    :lol:

  225. LLIME February 28th, 2009 at 1:54 pm

    Jets will sign Freddy Garcia. He is older, but a solid vet who just knows how to win. He could be a nice stop gap for them.

  226. Yankee2123 February 28th, 2009 at 1:55 pm

    This is what really irks me about Cashman. The team has a 200 Mil payroll, and no contingency plan at catcher! Posada is 37, and just had shoulder re-construction! Now there’s pain! Molina & Cervelli are back-ups. There are no Catching prospects coming down the pike. Now if Posada can’t go, the Yanks will have to scrape someone up to fill in. This is why that Navarro trade for Johnson, was such a bust a few years ago, he was the only prospect in the system that was ML ready, and we gave him up for a broken down shell of a pitcher. And let’s not hear of any talk of trading Nady or Swisher. Is it a crime to have a bench? Look at the bench players we had during the run! Straw, Raines, Fielder, Curtis, G. Williams, Spencer, Ledee, Sojo, Davis, Bush, you need to have depth! You need impact players on the bench, who are hungry game changers! Come on!!!

  227. X Marks the spot February 28th, 2009 at 1:55 pm

    I love Burnett, Swisher, Molina, and Joe Girardi.

  228. Mark in Tampa February 28th, 2009 at 1:56 pm

    Freddy Garcia is moonlighting as a QB now?
    I am sure you meant Jeff Garcia!

  229. Angel - A tale told by idiots, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing February 28th, 2009 at 1:57 pm

    “This is what really irks me about Cashman. The team has a 200 Mil payroll, and no contingency plan at catcher!…

    …Molina & Cervelli are back-ups.”

    What the hell?

  230. Soul February 28th, 2009 at 1:57 pm

    Well, Freddy Garcia clearly can’t pitch anymore, so maybe he should take up football. Though if he is only throwing 86 as a pitcher, I don’t think he has the arm to get the ball downfield.

  231. Mark in Tampa February 28th, 2009 at 1:58 pm

    Who is giving up that next great young catcher for next to nothing? The red sox need a catcher worse than the
    Yanks, and couldn’t find anybody at a reasonable price. Texas wanted Bucholz plus for one of theirs.

  232. 7*7 February 28th, 2009 at 1:59 pm

    I’d package Kennedy, Albaladejo, and Robertson for Saltalamachia.

  233. jb February 28th, 2009 at 1:59 pm

    No catching prospects coming up? Romine and Montero? They also signed Cash as another backup. You don’t get a superstar catcher as a backup. If you want Salty you have to give the Rangers Hughes and maybe more for them to care. I for one wouldn’t want to do that especially because he isn’t great defensively and his offensive potential is great, but he has only shown flashes so far.

  234. Rob NY -- 2009 The Road to Redemption February 28th, 2009 at 1:59 pm

    Yankee2123 — Who has two starting catcher all-star level guys just sitting around? Be glad you don’t have Jason Varitek as your starting catcher and move on IMO. Mollina and Cash and Cervelli are backups, and they’re (get this) backing up.

  235. Angel - A tale told by idiots, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing February 28th, 2009 at 2:00 pm

    “I’d package Kennedy, Albaladejo, and Robertson for Saltalamachia.”

    Fantasyland is in Orlando, not Tampa. :lol:

  236. Yankee2123 February 28th, 2009 at 2:01 pm

    Angel,

    Yes they are back-up catchers. If you watched the team last year, instead of bailing off the band wagon, you would know that Molina isn’t a full time catcher, and can’t hit .He was wearing down, and that’s when they scraped up Pudge. We all know how that worked out. Now Cashman has put the team in a position to wholly rely on Posada catching 125 games, and he’s played two games, and his shoulder hurts. Do the math.

  237. Mark in Tampa February 28th, 2009 at 2:01 pm

    “I’d package Kennedy, Albaladejo, and Robertson for Saltalamachia.”

    And you would end up keeping those three and have no catcher, because Texas already asked for more than that.

  238. Mike February 28th, 2009 at 2:01 pm

    Dont forget about Jesus Montero, but he’s only 19. If Molina can find his bat, he will be a great back-up. Molina is a team player and has amazing defense. Montero might not get a chance though, because just wait until Joe Mauer becomes a free agent.

  239. Drain003 February 28th, 2009 at 2:01 pm

    Well Giese, it was nice knowing you

    Looks like Aceves will get the job

  240. Tom February 28th, 2009 at 2:02 pm

    The best USC QB in the NFL isnt the one guys of won Heisman’s or championships-it’s the guy who never played.

  241. Yankee2123 February 28th, 2009 at 2:02 pm

    Yeah, one thing with Saltalamachia, the other team has to agree to the trade .

  242. Brandon (CC/AJ/Marky Mark..4 DAYS& PEDS !) Atleast I'm not GreenBeret7 February 28th, 2009 at 2:02 pm

    It’s ST just relax Giese.

  243. trisha - As long as you're in pinstripes, Kei, I've got your back. February 28th, 2009 at 2:02 pm

    Didn’t the Yanks also sign Kevin Cash?

    Meanwhile, while it is far too early to make any negative statements about anything Yankee, it is never too early to make negative statements about the Red Sox!

    http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/standings/exhibition.jsp

    He he he.

  244. Angel - A tale told by idiots, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing February 28th, 2009 at 2:04 pm

    What math needs to be done? You were ranting about Cashman not having a contingency plan for Posada.

    A contingency plan IS the back up catchers. The kind of catcher you’re talking about acquiring, would be someone who is the caliber of a STARTING catcher, and thus has a STARTING catching job currently.

    lol@at calling me a bandwagon fan.

  245. Rob NY -- 2009 The Road to Redemption February 28th, 2009 at 2:05 pm

    Tom — Disagree. Cassel was good not great and Carson Palmer is much better IMO. Though to be fair I don’t really care for the QBs with happy feet.

  246. Tom February 28th, 2009 at 2:05 pm

    “I’d package Kennedy, Albaladejo, and Robertson for Saltalamachia.”

    Nah, a package that good is worth, at least, a Brian McCann.

  247. Brandon (CC/AJ/Marky Mark..4 DAYS& PEDS !) Atleast I'm not GreenBeret7 February 28th, 2009 at 2:06 pm

    Alex I love ya but don’t do that for D.R. or us this season

  248. 4time February 28th, 2009 at 2:06 pm

    Tom lol

  249. Tom February 28th, 2009 at 2:06 pm

    True, Rob. Maybe I should have said last season.

  250. Yankee2123 February 28th, 2009 at 2:07 pm

    Oohh Kevin Cash! Now I’m relieved! I love it when we pick up Boston’s sloppy seconds! Yum!

  251. Rob February 28th, 2009 at 2:07 pm

    I just watched Joba on tivo, something was really wrong. All the other pitcher’s fastballs were accurate to what we know. Joba was throwing 10 mph slower. I think something must be up.

  252. Rob NY -- 2009 The Road to Redemption February 28th, 2009 at 2:07 pm

    Yanks should trade Teixeira for Salty + IMO.

  253. RS February 28th, 2009 at 2:08 pm

    Don’t look too much into ST stats for any pitcher. If I’m not mistaken, Kennedy had a 2 something ERA last ST and Hughes was lights out as well. Joba had mediocre numbers in ST. Then when the regular season arrived it was Joba who became lights out and Hughes and Kennedy looked horrible.

  254. Angel - A tale told by idiots, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing February 28th, 2009 at 2:09 pm

    What team in MLB has a starting-caliber back-up catcher as their back-up catcher? Really, I’m curious.

  255. Jeff February 28th, 2009 at 2:09 pm

    Rob, I agree

    Trade Teixeria to Texas for Salty, Elvis Andrus, Neftali Feliz

  256. Brandon (CC/AJ/Marky Mark..4 DAYS& PEDS !) Atleast I'm not GreenBeret7 February 28th, 2009 at 2:09 pm

    You don’t run on Molina ! :evil:

  257. aardvark February 28th, 2009 at 2:10 pm

    The Red Sox backup – Josh Bard, is a borderline All-Star catcher. He is a high OBP guy who is a good line drive hitter

  258. Rob NY -- 2009 The Road to Redemption February 28th, 2009 at 2:10 pm

    Angel — The red sox don’t have a starting-caliber starting catcher!

  259. Angel - A tale told by idiots, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing February 28th, 2009 at 2:10 pm

    I didn’t see him, Rob – but its pretty early in the year. Is it possible he still building arm strength?

  260. Angel - A tale told by idiots, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing February 28th, 2009 at 2:11 pm

    LOL Rob.. sssssssssshhhh you can’t use THEM as example! Especially not after the Yankees apparently picked up their soppy seconds!!

  261. Yankee2123 February 28th, 2009 at 2:11 pm

    Angel, if you read my complete post, I mentioned that there are no Catching prospects in the system capable to step up. Also, wouldn’t have made sense to make a deal for a decent catching prospect, just in case Posada couldn’t go? Now if he goes down there’s a major whole at catcher, and Cashman will have to scramble to scrape someone up, because Molina, let me repeat, MOLINA, is not a Full time catcher, as evidenced by his play last year. If you were watching the games last season you would realize this and shut the hell up.

  262. Brandon (CC/AJ/Marky Mark..4 DAYS& PEDS !) Atleast I'm not GreenBeret7 February 28th, 2009 at 2:12 pm

    Hey I remember him

  263. Rob NY -- 2009 The Road to Redemption February 28th, 2009 at 2:12 pm

    Josh Bard — http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/.....yerId=4763

    BA- .202 OBP .279 SLG .270

    That guy?

  264. PAT M. February 28th, 2009 at 2:12 pm

    The only thing I noticed with Joba, was it appeared that he was rushing to the plate at times…His was up alot….

  265. GreenBeret7 February 28th, 2009 at 2:12 pm

    Rob NY — 2009 The Road to Redemption
    February 28th, 2009 at 2:10 pm
    Angel—The red sox don’t have a starting-caliber starting catcher!

    ————————————————————

    They’ve barely got a backup catcher, and, he’s starting.

  266. Ham Fighters February 28th, 2009 at 2:13 pm

    i have some catching concerns, too but even if we end up with alot of molina in the lineup, we’re stronger defensivly and he’s really not much worse with the stick than veritek.

  267. Rob NY -- 2009 The Road to Redemption February 28th, 2009 at 2:13 pm

    Good thing Mollina isn’t the starting catcher! I’m relieved now we can step away from the ledge.

  268. Tom February 28th, 2009 at 2:13 pm

    Josh Bard? The guy who hit .202 last season is a borderline All-Star catcher?

  269. Angel - A tale told by idiots, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing February 28th, 2009 at 2:13 pm

    “…and shut the hell up.”

    Yeah, not gonna happen. Run along.

    I disagreed with your rant, it wasn’t personal – so stop taking it that way.

  270. Rob February 28th, 2009 at 2:13 pm

    Angel
    “I didn’t see him, Rob – but its pretty early in the year. Is it possible he still building arm strength?”

    Not arm strength for fastballs. They build arm strength to mix in curves, and sliders.

  271. trisha - As long as you're in pinstripes, Kei, I've got your back. February 28th, 2009 at 2:14 pm

    Angel, and here it begins. Geesh. I was serious when I suggested Pete have two threads running.

  272. aardvark February 28th, 2009 at 2:15 pm

    Rob,

    The last 3 years prior to 08, his numbers were

    AVG/OBP:

    2007 – .285/.364
    2006 – .338/.406
    2005 – .278/.381

    For a catcher (in Petco Park, no less), those are exceptional numbers.

  273. Brandon (CC/AJ/Marky Mark..4 DAYS& PEDS !) Atleast I'm not GreenBeret7 February 28th, 2009 at 2:15 pm

    ‘Josh Bard? The guy who hit .202 last season is a borderline All-Star catcher?’

    AAA ?

  274. Rob February 28th, 2009 at 2:15 pm

    Joba for sure did not have zip on his fastball.

  275. Rob February 28th, 2009 at 2:17 pm

    Way to go cano. Worked the count and got a good pitch.

  276. Pel February 28th, 2009 at 2:18 pm

    it’s too early in spring training to be certain, but i felt that the yankees were just working on their mound conference mechanics and not actually focused on accomplishing a good mound visit. season over.

  277. Angel - A tale told by idiots, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing February 28th, 2009 at 2:18 pm

    You’re not wrong about that, Trisha.

  278. Rob NY -- 2009 The Road to Redemption February 28th, 2009 at 2:20 pm

    Answer to the trivia question is Derek Jeter.

  279. PAT M. February 28th, 2009 at 2:22 pm

    These spins on the mound would normally be their BP pitching sessions…Let’s try not to read too my into it, I understand it difficult here not to hit the panic button too soon…..

  280. Angel - A tale told by idiots, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing February 28th, 2009 at 2:22 pm

    “Not arm strength for fastballs. They build arm strength to mix in curves, and sliders.”

    Yeah, that’s true. I can’t see the game so I’m not sure how he actually looks, I was just wondering what it was specifically that was causing a bit of concern.

  281. Brandon (CC/AJ/Marky Mark..4 DAYS& PEDS !) Atleast I'm not GreenBeret7 February 28th, 2009 at 2:22 pm

    Adam Eaton released

    Juan Cruz to sign w/ Royals

    Ron ‘Joe Torre ended my career’ Villone signed w/ the Mets.

    This ump and his freaking strike zone = :x

  282. Yankee2123 February 28th, 2009 at 2:22 pm

    “Yeah, not gonna happen. Run along.”

    Well I’m not running along. We’ll see what happens if Posada can’t start the season. I hope he’s ok, I’m sure we all do. Molina is solid, but if he had to play an entire season behind the dish, well who knows?

  283. Yankee2123 February 28th, 2009 at 2:23 pm

    Joba will be fine…once he’s in the pen.

  284. NY Lifer February 28th, 2009 at 2:24 pm

    I hope Jeter gets plunked by the Yanks on Tuesday.

    Ok. I’m just kidding.

    Veras is dealing by the way.

  285. Zolio February 28th, 2009 at 2:24 pm

    Wow, Veras’ stuff if nasty today

    If he throws strikes, he is unhittable

  286. jack February 28th, 2009 at 2:24 pm

    nasty hook by veras

  287. matt February 28th, 2009 at 2:24 pm

    why is veras using marianos glove? anyone else see thaT?

  288. trisha - As long as you're in pinstripes, Kei, I've got your back. February 28th, 2009 at 2:24 pm

    I realize people have the right to blitch, rant, and worry. But wouldn’t it be more fun for them to be with others who also want to blitch, rant, and worry? Then the people who are chill on any given day can enjoy the game together and the grumblers can UNenjoy the game together!

    And the fun thing is that people can jump threads. For example, the only time you would likely see me on the grumblers thread – at least at the beginning – would be if Ian Kennedy got a start.

    :lol:

  289. Brandon (CC/AJ/Marky Mark..4 DAYS& PEDS !) Atleast I'm not GreenBeret7 February 28th, 2009 at 2:25 pm

    Joba’s gonna be a starter he was normal today, no velocity isn’t an issue because he was clearly not airing it out today.

    Meanwhile Veras looks good right now.

  290. Rob NY -- 2009 The Road to Redemption February 28th, 2009 at 2:25 pm

    That’s the thing 2123 while we can armchair GM Ca$h has all the information possible and is saying Jorge can start a majority of the games. If he believes that why should he go trade inventory in the farm for a catching prospect in the higher ranks? Especially when he has Montero coming up 95.

  291. carl February 28th, 2009 at 2:25 pm

    veras looks great

  292. Yankee2123 February 28th, 2009 at 2:26 pm

    I wonder if Yuri Suckrat will be traveling with Team Domenica?

  293. Brandon (CC/AJ/Marky Mark..4 DAYS& PEDS !) Atleast I'm not GreenBeret7 February 28th, 2009 at 2:26 pm

    This ump and his …….. strike zone :x

  294. Rob NY -- 2009 The Road to Redemption February 28th, 2009 at 2:26 pm

    Brandon– That was strike three. You’re right about this ump. That was belt high. :angry:

  295. matt February 28th, 2009 at 2:27 pm

    Does anyone notice veras is using mo;s glove today? Maybe Mo needs it broken in so he wanted veras to use it.

  296. Yankee2123 February 28th, 2009 at 2:29 pm

    Rob NY,

    Because that’s the nature of injuries. All of the stats in the world can’t tell you if a guys shoulde ris going to give out on him. Especialyl at 37. With that said, I hope Jorge is ok, and comes back 100% this year.

  297. trisha - As long as you're in pinstripes, Kei, I've got your back. February 28th, 2009 at 2:29 pm

    Hmmm. I see lunch at Legends Field will definitely be a keeper!

  298. Rob February 28th, 2009 at 2:30 pm

    “Yeah, that’s true. I can’t see the game so I’m not sure how he actually looks, I was just wondering what it was specifically that was causing a bit of concern.”

    His velocity was way down. There was no zip on his fastball. Location wasn’t great, but it’s early to worry about location. However, the velocity causes concern because he wasn’t breaking 88 mph on his fastball.

  299. Pel February 28th, 2009 at 2:36 pm

    >However, the velocity causes concern because he wasn’t breaking
    >88 mph on his fastball.

    Not true. He hit 89 a few times, and 90 maybe once.

  300. Brandon (CC/AJ/Marky Mark..4 DAYS& PEDS !) Atleast I'm not GreenBeret7 February 28th, 2009 at 2:37 pm

    DUNN !

  301. pheebuddy February 28th, 2009 at 2:37 pm

    This is why I stopped posting in the comments section 2 years ago. It’s a waste of time. It’s like wading thru a river of sh_t for 2 hours and then u find a dollar bill. Go thru some of these comments. Some are so ridiculous and some are so premature. Guys, it’s Saturday. Go out and get some air.
    That said, thanks to the guy who verified MLB network’s decision to air the tape delay of the game which is why I clicked the comments to begin with. How any of you guys sit here and comment with a bunch of chicken littles is beyond me. Have a great weekend all. Go Yanks.

  302. Pel February 28th, 2009 at 2:38 pm

    Giambi who?

  303. carl February 28th, 2009 at 2:38 pm

    nice grab by tex!

  304. Ed - 2009 season can't start soon enough February 28th, 2009 at 2:38 pm

    that is why we **GOT** Marky Mark. :D

  305. trisha - As long as you're in pinstripes, Kei, I've got your back. February 28th, 2009 at 2:38 pm

    :D

    That was so damned nice!!!!!

  306. vtred February 28th, 2009 at 2:39 pm

    This is why Teix got $180 million. He is not just a hitter, but a baseball player.

  307. carl February 28th, 2009 at 2:40 pm

    Molina is nasty

  308. John_Halfz February 28th, 2009 at 2:40 pm

    What a bunch of idiots. February 28. And our armchair analysts are TIVOing Joba and analyzing his mechanics? Melky beats out a bunt and the CF race isn’t decided.

    Wow. It’s like George Steinbrenner cloned himself into message board Yankee fans. Might be time to fire a few coaches?

  309. Pel February 28th, 2009 at 2:40 pm

    Nice to see pheebuddy exercising his irony muscle.

  310. trisha - As long as you're in pinstripes, Kei, I've got your back. February 28th, 2009 at 2:40 pm

    Did I mention that I LOVE JOSE MOLINA!????

    He is phenomenal.

  311. Zmann February 28th, 2009 at 2:40 pm

    Dunn looks nice

  312. PAT M. February 28th, 2009 at 2:41 pm

    Kay & Singleton were just talking about Reggie and his power….For those who were around to see him, Reg had incredible bat speed, and had great core strength….Watch clips of him hitting and you’ll see his hip turn that generated amazing power…..His stride was unlike anyone that plays today….

  313. GreenBeret7 February 28th, 2009 at 2:41 pm

    Why are people expecting Chamberlain, or, any pitcher to start airing it out in February? It’s his first game. If he’s pitching like that in late March or early April, ten you can worry or drag out the razor.

  314. Brandon (CC/AJ/Marky Mark..4 DAYS& PEDS !) Atleast I'm not GreenBeret7 February 28th, 2009 at 2:44 pm

    Dunn is still raw but you can see so much potential in him, I wish I could see WDR in one of these televised ST games. :(

  315. carl February 28th, 2009 at 2:44 pm

    god is about to pitch

  316. Rob NY -- 2009 The Road to Redemption February 28th, 2009 at 2:44 pm

    Gotta love a lefty who can crank it up into the 90s.

  317. Sopnas February 28th, 2009 at 2:45 pm

    Yikes, Joba getting pounded, Jorge still having health issues, AROID causing a distraction. Could be a loooong season.

  318. Brandon (CC/AJ/Marky Mark..4 DAYS& PEDS !) Atleast I'm not GreenBeret7 February 28th, 2009 at 2:45 pm

    puts him away w/ high heat.

  319. Dan February 28th, 2009 at 2:47 pm

    Pete, just lettin’ you know that Matt Cassell, engineer of the amazing 2008 New England Pats, is now a Chief. He leaves behind an unforgettable legacy of almost making the playoffs once.

  320. AD February 28th, 2009 at 2:52 pm

    So as of now… Brett Tomko leads the in the mop up/Long relief race

    1. Tomko
    2. Geiss
    3 Igawa

  321. PAT M. February 28th, 2009 at 2:54 pm

    GB7, Glad your here to help calm down the troops…..It’s an unusual spring this year due to the WBC….Today was Joba BP throw day…The date that is important when judging a pitcher and to a lesser exten position players was always March 17…By then you can get a feel for how a player is coming along..Besides most of the minor league guys are gone by then, so the focus is on getting ready for openning day…..

  322. Brandon (CC/AJ/Marky Mark..4 DAYS& PEDS !) Atleast I'm not GreenBeret7 February 28th, 2009 at 2:55 pm

    Oh god why do I have to see him :(

  323. trisha - As long as you're in pinstripes, Kei, I've got your back. February 28th, 2009 at 2:56 pm

    Brandon, actually you don’t you know…

    ;)

  324. 4 x 4 February 28th, 2009 at 2:56 pm

    Remember the 2007 rotation to start the year?

    Wang
    Pettitte
    Mussina
    Pavano
    Igawa

  325. Brandon (CC/AJ/Marky Mark..4 DAYS& PEDS !) Atleast I'm not GreenBeret7 February 28th, 2009 at 2:58 pm

    Trisha I mean televised wise..like the Yankees couldn’t put Garcia, or DeLaRosa on the tv days, no they give me freaking K Igawa.

  326. trisha - As long as you're in pinstripes, Kei, I've got your back. February 28th, 2009 at 2:58 pm

    :)

    I’ve got your back buddy.

  327. carl February 28th, 2009 at 2:58 pm

    Igawa!

  328. jack February 28th, 2009 at 2:59 pm

    Cassell throwing to Dwayne Bowe and Tony Gonzalez will be a star

  329. trisha - As long as you're in pinstripes, Kei, I've got your back. February 28th, 2009 at 2:59 pm

    Brandon, I was playing with ya.

  330. Pel February 28th, 2009 at 2:59 pm

    Seriously…how does this show Ax Men have anything to do with history to belong on the History Channel?

  331. Burnett after reading February 28th, 2009 at 3:01 pm

    carl,

    who is god?

  332. vtred February 28th, 2009 at 3:01 pm

    Luis Ayala LOL

  333. Freddy February 28th, 2009 at 3:02 pm

    Luis Ayala will always hold a special place in my heart for his part in the Mets collapsing last year.

  334. Brandon (CC/AJ/Marky Mark..4 DAYS& PEDS !) Atleast I'm not GreenBeret7 February 28th, 2009 at 3:02 pm

    ‘Luis Ayala LOL’

    The Mets great CL

  335. GreenBeret7 February 28th, 2009 at 3:03 pm

    PAT M.
    February 28th, 2009 at 2:54 pm
    GB7, Glad your here to help calm down the troops…..It’s an unusual spring this year due to the WBC….Today was Joba BP throw day…The date that is important when judging a pitcher and to a lesser exten position players was always March 17…By then you can get a feel for how a player is coming along..Besides most of the minor league guys are gone by then, so the focus is on getting ready for openning day…..

    ————————————————————

    PAT, like you, I don’t get worried/concerned unless pitchers are still making pitching mistakes and players are still pulling rocks after mid-March. By them, all that should be happening is polishing their craft.

    Loved Cano’s turn on that DP to get Gomez. I can’t think of anoter 2nd baseman that turns it that fast and combines it with that arm. Very much Manny Trillo-like at 2nd.

  336. Brandon (CC/AJ/Marky Mark..4 DAYS& PEDS !) Atleast I'm not GreenBeret7 February 28th, 2009 at 3:04 pm

    full count ABs w/ Robi seriously I must be on drugs.

  337. Brandon (CC/AJ/Marky Mark..4 DAYS& PEDS !) Atleast I'm not GreenBeret7 February 28th, 2009 at 3:09 pm

    Cisco looks like he wants to throw that ball at K’s head

  338. PAT M. February 28th, 2009 at 3:09 pm

    Cano will have the season that many of us expected last season…He has a batting title or two in him….Working the count is impressive, maybe maturity is setting in….

  339. trisha - As long as you're in pinstripes, Kei, I've got your back. February 28th, 2009 at 3:11 pm

    :D

    Good going Kei.

  340. Freddy February 28th, 2009 at 3:11 pm

    Igawa looking good. With the implosion of Dan Giese, he has moved ahead of him for long man consideration.

    Though Aceves and Tomko are still in the lead

  341. carl February 28th, 2009 at 3:12 pm

    Igawa looked good.

  342. Buddy Biancalana February 28th, 2009 at 3:13 pm

    Pat M-

    How are you watching the game, aren’t you in SoCal?

  343. GreenBeret7 February 28th, 2009 at 3:15 pm

    Brandon, not sure why you wouldn’t want to have had my life…I’ve had a great life…great time. I don’t worry about my age, if that’s the issue. I did get to see Mantle, Maris, Ford, Berra, Mays, Aaron, Koufax, Spahn and the other greats…LIVE. Envy me.

  344. Brandon (CC/AJ/Marky Mark..4 DAYS& PEDS !) Atleast I'm not GreenBeret7 February 28th, 2009 at 3:23 pm

    ‘Brandon, not sure why you wouldn’t want to have had my life…I’ve had a great life…great time. I don’t worry about my age, if that’s the issue. I did get to see Mantle, Maris, Ford, Berra, Mays, Aaron, Koufax, Spahn and the other greats…LIVE. Envy me.’

    :lol:

  345. PAT M. February 28th, 2009 at 3:23 pm

    Buddy,,,,I’m watching the game on my computor…MLB.com, that’s how I get the Yankee games all season….I can watch anygame that is not local….20.00 dollars a month….If you want I’ll hook you up so you don’t have to pay….

  346. Angel - A tale told by idiots, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing February 28th, 2009 at 3:24 pm

    LTNS, Phee.

    lol, gamethreads are not the most positive threads on here, still. I’ll grant you that. I try to be the exception to the rule, along with some others.

  347. Freddy February 28th, 2009 at 3:25 pm

    Francisco Pena for utility player!!

  348. Buddy Biancalana February 28th, 2009 at 3:27 pm

    Pat M.

    Thank you for the offer. I have the Extra Innings package but as you know it doesn’t include ST games. I’m in the Bay Area & thought that maybe the game was on.

  349. m February 28th, 2009 at 3:30 pm

    Pat M,

    Thanks for the offer of Lakers tickets. I wish I could take you up on your offer!

    Save ‘em for the birds, Lakers tickets are hot items.

  350. Angel - A tale told by idiots, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing February 28th, 2009 at 3:30 pm

    Are they pre-selling for the early-bird price the Extra Innings package for this year yet, Buddy?

  351. Buddy Biancalana February 28th, 2009 at 3:32 pm

    Angel-

    Haven’t looked into yet. I had Direct TV for years so the discounted renewal was automatic. I now have Comcast, so I need to find out.

  352. PAT M. February 28th, 2009 at 3:32 pm

    GB7, You failed to mention the Babe, Gehrig, Cobb, and Walter ” Big Train ” Johnson…..m, envisions us as the old gents you see at the park playing checkers…..I too learned the game watching the greatest era of players the game as ever known…And Koufax was still the best I say…

  353. trisha - As long as you're in pinstripes, Kei, I've got your back. February 28th, 2009 at 3:33 pm

    Buddy, if you go with DirecTV you can get the YES network, plus all pre and post games. Some of the ST games are on YES. (Also mlb.com)

  354. Betsy February 28th, 2009 at 3:33 pm

    Did Robertson pitch yet?

    With 1/3 of the Yankees lineup soon to be out for the WBC, the lineup is going to consist partly of the Ransoms of the world. Therfore, fans had better get used to days like this where we go for innings without scoring. It would be nice to see some of the AAA guys hit a bit, but I guess it really doesn’t matter.

    I’ll try to catch Tex’ play on YES later – how sweet it is to have a complete ballplayer at 1B now. As Kay said earlier in the telecast, it seems like he’s almost too good be true…..you have to go dig and find something negative about Tex. Even then, I suspect it might be very hard to do. I’m glad to see Cano is working the count – I really wish he were staying in camp instead of going to the WBC. I don’t want him to fall into bad habits again.

  355. GreenBeret7 February 28th, 2009 at 3:34 pm

    If people want to cheer and root for a player that has overcome a physical handicap, you couldn’t make a better choice than RA Dickey. He was born without an ulner collateral ligament in his pitching arm.

    “Dickey lacks the ulnar collateral ligament in his pitching arm, which is the one replaced during Tommy John surgery. Dickey has been quoted as saying “Doctors look at me and say I shouldn’t be able to turn a doorknob without feeling pain . . . ” [4] making his ability to pitch somewhat remarkable. After being drafted by the Rangers, Dickey was initially offered a signing bonus of $810,000, before a Rangers team physician saw Dickey’s arm hanging oddly in a picture. The Rangers subsequently did further evaluation of Dickey, leading to the discovery of the missing ligament, and reduced their offer to $75,000.[4]”

    If K. Texeira becomes a good major league pitcher, how long will it be before somebody nicknames him “The Maui Wowee”?

  356. Angel - A tale told by idiots, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing February 28th, 2009 at 3:35 pm

    Thanks, Buddy. I have cable and I usually have to re-sign up each year. For as long as I’ve got it the early-bird rate is good through the first week after Opening Day. I’ll have to start looking soon, I guess.

  357. Buddy Biancalana February 28th, 2009 at 3:36 pm

    trisha-

    From my experience, you have to pay extra for the pre & post game stuff.

    Just found out that Comcast isn’t selling the Extra Innings package just yet.

  358. DET x2 February 28th, 2009 at 3:37 pm

    Veras looked nasty today

  359. trisha - As long as you're in pinstripes, Kei, I've got your back. February 28th, 2009 at 3:38 pm

    Buddy, well yeah you do have to pay extra. To get YES, I have to buy the sportspack. It gives me a lot more than YES, but I couldn’t get YES without getting the sportspack. It costs me an extra $10/month.

  360. 24 Score February 28th, 2009 at 3:42 pm

    Because the exhibition season is so long, there are going to be a ton of games with all scrubs with no chance of making the team. There are 36 exhibition games this season for most teams. The Igawa’s of the world are going to get a ton of burn during ST.

  361. Buddy Biancalana February 28th, 2009 at 3:43 pm

    trisha-

    I thought about the sportspack, but not sure if the wife would be happy with YES on all day & night. MLB channel is already driving her nuts.

  362. Tony February 28th, 2009 at 3:45 pm

    Need some help with a Fantasy trade. My rotation currently is:
    C.C
    Dan Haren
    Brandon Webb
    Jake Peavy
    Andy Pettite
    Joba Chamberlin
    Oliver Perez

    My need is a power bat. I have someone willing to take Brandon Webb for Prince Fielder. Should I do the trade?

  363. Betsy February 28th, 2009 at 3:46 pm

    Sounds like Robertson is struggling. I like him, but I still think Alabadejo has the edge in the competition for a slot in the pen. Dave looks like he could use some more work……

  364. PAT M. February 28th, 2009 at 3:47 pm

    Why don’t mid-inf’s straddle the bag anymore when covering on steals ??? They perfer to sit in front of 2nd and do the ole tag…

  365. Buddy Biancalana February 28th, 2009 at 3:48 pm

    Tony-

    You can do better than Fielder for Webb, can you get the Hebrew Hammer, Ryan Braun?

  366. GreenBeret7 February 28th, 2009 at 3:48 pm

    GB7, You failed to mention the Babe, Gehrig, Cobb, and Walter ” Big Train ” Johnson…..m, envisions us as the old gents you see at the park playing checkers…..I too learned the game watching the greatest era of players the game as ever known…And Koufax was still the best I say…

    ————————————————————

    PAT, I saw those remarks but, I didn’t get involved in the discussion because I was busy looking up what “checkers” were. They hadn’t been invented by the time I was that age. Talk about kids having no respect for experience, huh? No doubt about Koufax. Make you wonder what an extra 8 years on his career would have produced had he had the health.

  367. Betsy February 28th, 2009 at 3:49 pm

    24 Score, good point……and I know a lot of teams are going to be missing players. The Yankees, though, have 3 of their best players missing – it’s going to be tough to get a real read on this team as we won’t even see them play together as a unit until a week or so before the season starts. That’s part of what bothers me about the WBC – I kind of hope the US and DR lose in the early rounds.

  368. Tony February 28th, 2009 at 3:51 pm

    Buddy-

    You think Webb for Fielder is to much to give up? I was trying to push Peavy on him for Prince. I need a 1B badly. He won’t budge on Peavy but will take Webb. Your thoughts?

  369. dave February 28th, 2009 at 3:57 pm

    They need to make Hank Steinbrenner write “I will listen to Brian Cashman” 1,000 times on a blackboard.

    I think the yanks made the right move by not trading hughes for santana because I believe in hughes but lets not forget the fact that johan was the epitome of ace for the mets last season and hughes and kennedy did not win a single game for the yanks. We were told over and over not to jump the gun but to see how the situation played out. And i think that advice works both ways. Look at the date right now – anyone knows johan will prolly be fine by opening day. i think the comment above was a joke but either way, its kind of ridiculous to say cash was correct in his decision because of this injury in february.

  370. Distd February 28th, 2009 at 3:58 pm

    Robertson’s stuff moves so much that he can lose command of it easily. Even in the minors, he had fairly high walk rates. He is still much better than Albaladejo though… atleast Robertson has an out-pitch.

    Even if one of those guys makes the team, I doubt they will pitch very often behind Rivera, Marte, Bruney, Veras, Edwar, Coke, maybe Melancon (if he makes the team) etc.

  371. Buddy Biancalana February 28th, 2009 at 4:00 pm

    Tony-

    Webb is an absolute stud. He helps you in so many categories.

  372. Carl79 February 28th, 2009 at 4:00 pm

    dave,

    The only reason that turned out to be the right move is because we ended up signing CC Sabathia.

    If CC had gone to the West Coast and we had been stuck overpaying for Burnett (his agent would have had so much more leverage if we didn’t get CC, he wouldn’t have signed for $82 mil), Lowe, Perez, injured Sheets etc. trying to masquerade one of those guys as a workhorse Ace… there would be many complaints. Signing CC is what made the non-move a good one.

  373. PAT M. February 28th, 2009 at 4:03 pm

    GB, only saw Sandy pitch three times…First time was vs. Yanks and twice at Shea….If God was ever to come to earth as a pitcher it would have been as Sandy Koufax…..Ah Shea Stadium, saw far more football games there than baseball…

  374. james February 28th, 2009 at 4:03 pm

    a guy like Albaladejo would make a fine placeholder for a guy like Melancon. As the last man in the bullpen, you’re not going to pitch much anyway.

    i’d rather send a guy like Robertson to the minors for consistant work because I think he has more of a future on the team than a guy like Albaladejo who may be a victim of our incredible bullpen depth.

    A guy like albaladejo who is a short term solution and may not pitch much, would be a good guy to take the final spot in the pen over a guy like robertson who should be pitching under a normal schedule because he has a high upside.

  375. Buddy Biancalana February 28th, 2009 at 4:03 pm

    Tony-

    I would trade Webb for Tex, but would prefer to have Webb & Peavy over Fielder.

  376. dave February 28th, 2009 at 4:04 pm

    How about cash should write “I will not sign a player in his late 30s to four plus year contracts” 1000 times on a blackboard? Or “I will not sign players who are minor leaguers for 45 million dollars” 1000 times? Cashman certainly made his fair share of mistakes and hank has zero say in the decision making while cash pretty much has 100 percent say.

  377. NITRO February 28th, 2009 at 4:06 pm

    Gardner CF
    Ransom 3B
    Teixeria 1B
    Duncan DH
    Swisher RF
    Nady LF
    Molina C
    Berroa 2B
    Nunez/Pena SS

    Expect to see that lineup for a few weeks.

  378. Quilvio Imposter February 28th, 2009 at 4:07 pm

    Burnett is 32 and he got a 5 year contract… does he count?

  379. Betsy February 28th, 2009 at 4:08 pm

    If Robertson can’t control his pitches, then he’s simply not going to be an effective pitcher. He’s got potential, but he’s also got some serious work to do in AAA. If he’s as wild as people say, he doesn’t belong in the big leagues…….not now anyway. We’ll see how he comes along this spring.

    James, I don’t agree about Alabadejo; I think if he makes the team, we will see him ….and pretty often. I think I read on this blog (though I’m not sure what thread) that, per Kay, the Yankees love this guy. Your general point is a good one, though.

  380. GreenBeret7 February 28th, 2009 at 4:10 pm

    Now watching one of the great baseball movies of all time, “Bang The Drum Slowly”.

  381. Betsy February 28th, 2009 at 4:11 pm

    This post sums up why I despise the WBC – it’s from a poster on NYYFans.com (JDPNY):

    Bad idea. Really bad idea. I’ll even tell you why I think it’s a really bad idea:

    1) I don’t want any player involved with the Yankees missing any Spring Training time with the team.

    2) I don’t want any Yankee player doing additional traveling around the Country (Countries).

    3) I don’t want any person outside of the Yankee Organization having control of anything to do with any player from the Yankee Organization.

    4) I don’t want the slightest chance of misuse or injury for any member of the Yankees Organization.

    5) In Spring Training the Yankee Organization controls the players routine. They go slow and build up. The players don’t play all out. They are on a schedule.

    6) There will be three weeks of practice where the Yankees will not have these players. An incomplete squad. Infielders unable to work together in order to, defensively, get the season off to the right start.

    7) There will be three weeks where the Yankee Batters involved in the WBC will not be working with the Yankees batting coach.

    8) It’s possible these players will be more worn down at the end of the baseball season when, hopefully, the Yankees need these players the most.

    9) The tournament is not real. It is an exhibition. Pitchers will not be allowed (nor will they be ready) to go all out. The best position players will not be allowed (nor will they be ready) to play the whole games.

    10) There are Countries where their roster is made up of players that were born in the USA (such as Italy). This tournament will in no way prove which Country can field the best baseball team. I doubt that Countries such as Italy will have much National Pride in rooting for a team of American Players with Italian last names. The tournament will not prove to improve the interest in baseball in Countries where there is already little interest.

    11) My main concern is a World Championship for my favorite team.

    I was going to point out which comments I particularly agree with, except that I agree strongly with each and every one.

  382. dave February 28th, 2009 at 4:11 pm

    We will be extremely lucky if posada plays 100 games. This is why I dont like when people talk about how the yanks are a better team this year with a healthy posada and matsui, etc. I just dont think that is why we are a better team. Of course, we are better with tex, cc and hopefully a healthy AJ but having posada and matsui healthy in february is no sure sign that they will be any more help than in 2008. I dont see how people dont realize that. Posada being sore right now is definitely something to be concerned about no matter what the yankees say.

    And of course, this is his first setback. They are actually playing games now and this is the time when players like jorge have setbacks. This is a sure sign that we should have a better backup catcher than molina – and i mean a better hitter out of the catcher spot. Its fine if gardner and melky take up a lineup spot and are less than mediocre but with molina in the lineup with them, the lineup starts to look weak.

  383. Nick in SF in Zihautanejo February 28th, 2009 at 4:12 pm

    Everyday is a dangerous struggle for survival. Even now I risk mortal danger, stealing wifi from the local crime lords. Click on my photostream to see local Yankee fans and other scenic flavor. Below is a picture of the scene of the most recent narco-violence:

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/9.....317335694/

    The odds of my making it out of here alive are slim. I’ve willed my Yankee bobbleheads to Buddy B. and Michelle X. — contact my estate if I don’t make it home.

    If I’m never heard from again, please make my final wishes known: Joba must start; all else is madness.

  384. Bob(The Original) February 28th, 2009 at 4:13 pm

    trisha – As long as you’re in pinstripes, Kei, I’ve got your back.
    February 28th, 2009 at 1:21 pm

    On the other hand, MAN ALIVE I LOVE JOSE MOLINA!

    —————————————-

    Why?

  385. dave February 28th, 2009 at 4:14 pm

    Quilvio – i said late 30s but certainly the AJ contract is extremely risky not because of his age but because of his injury history. AJ could be a massive success or a huge bust. I dont really see much in between.

  386. PAT M. February 28th, 2009 at 4:16 pm

    Just turned it on GB, great movie, for those of you who never saw the old Stadium, there’s plenty of footage here….They remodeled right after this movie was shot 1973….Shea was used quite a lot…

  387. Quilvio Imposter February 28th, 2009 at 4:18 pm

    If Edwar stays healthy, Albaladejo AND Robertson may be in the minors. You could see Girardi going with a pen of

    Rivera
    Bruney
    Marte
    Veras
    Ramirez
    Coke
    Aceves

    With Melancon lurking in the shadows to replace the weakest link by the end of April. It’s an open competition, but certainly the guys who had success last year and earned Joe’s trust will have a leg up over the newer guys.

  388. dave February 28th, 2009 at 4:19 pm

    Good post about the wbc. I agree. And i think some players on the italy team dont even have any italian roots nevermind that they are not form italy.

  389. dave February 28th, 2009 at 4:21 pm

    i dunno about veras personally. I just dont think he is all that good. And that bullpen above has a lot of guys that struggle with their control at times. That pen could lead to a lot of walks as it did last season.

  390. John February 28th, 2009 at 4:21 pm

    With AJ -I worry about health and mound temperament. Everyone says he is a firey guy who shows his emotions on the mound and may get too amped up to pitch in big games. Thats why a guy like Molina would be perfect with him with his low-key personality and his ability to call games. I could see him and Posada clashing often during the heat of the battle considering how emotional the both of them can be.

    Molina would work best with AJ and Joba.

  391. GreenBeret7 February 28th, 2009 at 4:22 pm

    PAT M.
    February 28th, 2009 at 4:03 pm
    GB, only saw Sandy pitch three times…First time was vs. Yanks and twice at Shea….If God was ever to come to earth as a pitcher it would have been as Sandy Koufax…..Ah Shea Stadium, saw far more football games there than baseball…

    ————————————————————

    I got to see Koufax pitch in four-five games in Wrigley Field. Best I remember he had 2 shutouts in those games. I don’t think Banks, Williams and Santo ever did get a hit. Beckert and Kessinger had a little more luck, but, not by much.

  392. trisha - As long as you're in pinstripes, Kei, I've got your back. February 28th, 2009 at 4:24 pm

    Bob – why do I love Jose Molina? Because he does one of the things I believe top-rate catchers should be able to do – throws runners out with ease.

    See I truly like players who know how to play their positions. Molina knows how to play his postition. Well. I don’t demand that every player be 5-tool. Plus I am someone who values defense over offense, not of course that I appreciate good offense.

  393. Sea Net February 28th, 2009 at 4:24 pm

    Outside of potentially Melancon, ALL of the arms (sans Rivera) have mediocre control.

    Edwar, Veras, and Robertson all can be wild at times
    Bruney has a history of having control problems
    Marte also has a pretty high walk rate
    Albaladejo has such a wierd delivery, that it will lead to some control problems at the ML level

    Coke also has shown he has good control, but I’d like to see a larger sample. All of our arms have control problems to some degree.

  394. Tom February 28th, 2009 at 4:26 pm

    Yankee Prospect, Bradley Suttle, has a blog:

    http://yankeesprospect.mlblogs.com/

  395. pat February 28th, 2009 at 4:28 pm

    Nick

    Good job keeping an eye out for narco-violence and Yankee hats. There’s a new one with a big patch on it. A hat that
    is but a violent narc with a patch wouldn’t be unheard of either.

    Safe travels

  396. AJ YANKS February 28th, 2009 at 4:29 pm

    Most hard-throwing middle relievers in baseball have mediocre control.

    If you throw hard and have good control, you are a closer (and even some top closers like KRod and Lidge can lose their command often)

  397. Betsy February 28th, 2009 at 4:30 pm

    John, AJ has pitched great against the Rays, Sox and Yanks. Those are about the only “big” games he’s had a chance to pitch in – so far, so good. I like the fact that he’s pumped up – Clemens had a hard time channeling his energy in big games until late in his career, but AJ seems to be able to do that. I think it’s huge that he clearly wants the ball and the bright lights……really, that’s half the battle.

  398. dave February 28th, 2009 at 4:37 pm

    I agree – posdas role should be limited not only to keep him healthy but to limit how much the team relies on him. i WOULD LIKE posada to be with CC, wang and pettitte. I just wish we had another catcher who would hit a little bit but if we dont, molina should bear some of the load either way,

  399. Joe from Long Island February 28th, 2009 at 4:37 pm

    As for our depth in the bullpen – I think that the guy(s) who don’t stick will be the guy(s) that Cash can make the best deal(s) for.

    I think the only pitchers who are here for the duration are the starting 5, Mariano, Hughes and Brackman, and maybe Mark Melancon. Everyone else is available for the right deal.

  400. Tennore February 28th, 2009 at 4:39 pm

    I totally agree about not signing Santana. But what did Hank have to say about signing Igawa? Or was that before Hank had any say (refresh memory)

  401. Bob(The Original) February 28th, 2009 at 4:46 pm

    trisha – As long as you’re in pinstripes, Kei, I’ve got your back.
    February 28th, 2009 at 4:24 pm
    Bob – why do I love Jose Molina? Because he does one of the things I believe top-rate catchers should be able to do – throws runners out with ease.

    See I truly like players who know how to play their positions. Molina knows how to play his postition. Well. I don’t demand that every player be 5-tool. Plus I am someone who values defense over offense, not of course that I appreciate good offense.

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    That’s all fine and good, but it doesn’t help you win games. Steve Goldman illustrates it much better than I can:

    Let’s deal with MAD, Molina’s Alleged Deterrence. A full-season workload for most catchers is about 1200 innings, or about 140 full games. Molina caught 737 innings last season, so he got in about 60 percent of a full season. The Yankees played 1441 innings in total, so he took just a fraction over half of the team’s catching load. Now, here’s a very simple way of looking at things, but this is my take on all the baserunners that might not have run because Molina was in the game: they ran anyway. The average AL team saw 129 stolen base attempts last year — 94 steals, 35 caught stealing. Half of that would be roughly 65 attempts — 47 steals, 17 caught. Molina, though, saw 75 stolen base attempts. Another way of looking at it would be to say that the AL least year had .80 stolen base attempts per nine innings. Molina had .92 attempts per nine in the games he caught. Perhaps a lot of that was the pitchers, and had Molina not been catching even more runners might have gone, but that would be pure supposition.

    Your request that we give Molina credit for the half-season he didn’t play won’t make him look any better. As above, he played roughly half a season, starting 81 games behind the plate and relieving in 16 more. If we simply double his playing time, we have a player who saved ten runs in dead baserunners and was roughly 30 runs worse than the average catcher and maybe 40 runs worse than the average hitter. Giving you more of Molina doesn’t make him any better; it just increases the damage.

    http://pinstripedbible.mlblogs.....mania.html

  402. S.A.-The 2009 MLB season is almost here February 28th, 2009 at 4:56 pm

    Tennore February 28th, 2009 at 4:39 pm

    I totally agree about not signing Santana. But what did Hank have to say about signing Igawa? Or was that before Hank had any say (refresh memory)

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    Igawa was before(2007 season) we started hearing the lovely whispers of Hank Steinbrenner. I think. If he did say something, I don’t remember

  403. trisha - As long as you're in pinstripes, Kei, I've got your back. February 28th, 2009 at 4:58 pm

    “That’s all fine and good, but it doesn’t help you win games”

    In fact it DOES help you win games. Now granted I have not yet read all of the rest of your post, but since your first line was in response to what I said about defense and Molina playing his position well, I’ll tell you that the guys that you get to hit 1-7 are there for a reason. If you have to worry about your 8 and 9 doing the hitting in order to win games (not that you don’t want them to hit some of the time) then you haven’t scouted your offense very well.

    Derek Jeter said it much better than I, but I can give you the paraphrase to let you know that there are a lot of people, players included, who place a high commodity on good defense. Once Jeter was asked what made me feel better as a player, having a good AB or making a good play in the field. Without hesitation, he chose the play in the field, and followed it with the well-worn mantra: pitching and defense win games.

    I will now read the rest of your post to see what the person you quoted had to say about Jose Molina.

  404. GreenBeret7 February 28th, 2009 at 5:07 pm

    Well, let’s see if I’ve got this straight, now. If a pitcher walks a batter on 28 February, he has no control and won’t have any for the rest of his career. If he gives up a hit, he’s a no-talent bum with no future. As best as I can decypher the rest of tese amazing posts, Posada’s arm is hanging by a thread and he’s going to die. Does that cover it all? I won’t bother rehashing the terrible offense, because nobody on the team except Jeter will ever get a hit. 145 no-hitters tossed against the Yanks in 2009 sound about right to everyone?

  405. S.A.-The 2009 MLB season is almost here February 28th, 2009 at 5:11 pm

    You pretty much covered it all GB7. Doomed.

    :D

  406. trisha - As long as you're in pinstripes, Kei, I've got your back. February 28th, 2009 at 5:14 pm

    “Perhaps a lot of that was the pitchers, and had Molina not been catching even more runners might have gone, but that would be pure supposition.”

    Supposition? First of all I am an attorney. Tell me there is a possibility of an alternative theory and I am not going to accept what you (Goldman) are throwing out there as a theory without doing more investigation. Secondly, I have eyes and watched every game Molina played in last season. Thirdly, without necessarily doing the math, I remember our rotation from last season well and would say that it is probable that there is more than supposition involved with thinking it may have had something to do with the pitchers. Perish the thought if Molina had to catch many of Ian Kennedy’s gems, for example. I will add another caveat, a personal one, and that is that I am entirely distrustful of anything that comes out of Baseball Prospectus since its originators have Boston ties. (Certainly my right to feel that way just as it is anyone else’s right to think that BP is a brilliant publication, etc.)

    All of that said, I will stick with my opinion about Molina and the very positive feedback that accompanied him to Yankee Stadium by people who have played the game, the ones I do tend to trust. I will check out his catcher rating but I’m pretty sure he was rated in the top third of catchers throwing out runners.

  407. GreenBeret7 February 28th, 2009 at 5:19 pm

    S.A.-The 2009 MLB season is almost here
    February 28th, 2009 at 5:11 pm
    You pretty much covered it all GB7. Doomed.

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    WHEEWWWW!!!! I was sure that I misquoted somebody or missed a valid point they were making. I’m so much relieved, now.

  408. S.A.-The 2009 MLB season is almost here February 28th, 2009 at 5:23 pm

    :lol:

  409. dale d February 28th, 2009 at 5:34 pm

    I love Pete’s opinions. I click in here three or four times a day.
    I love the posts too.
    BUT
    how would this play with PA?

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    February
    28

    You see some interesting things if you pay attention around the Yankees. Like 6-foot-10 Andrew Brackman asking 5-foot-8 Yogi Berra to autograph a photo.

    I went over to ask Arod if he had watched Brackman pitch.

    “Not bad,” he said. “That kid is tall. He should play basketball.”

    I told him that Brackman had played two years at North Carolina State.

    “See?” Arod said with a twinkle in his eye. “I told you so.”

    my favorite yogism is
    “people don’t go there anymore… it’s too crowded

  410. Gary February 28th, 2009 at 5:50 pm

    It’s incredible that nobody noticed that Melky was wearing No. 53 today rather than his familiar No. 28.
    He may feel he’s on his way out the door like Abreu was.


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