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Talking pitching with Phil Hughes

Posted by: Peter Abraham - Posted in Misc on Mar 03, 2009 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

We interrupt news on A-Rod with some baseball:

If you watched the game today, you may have noticed that Phil Hughes had a nice, tight curveball. It looked different than the curve he used to throw and I asked him about it.

Hughes explained that he’s throwing his curve with the same arm speed as his fastball. So instead of a big loop (picture Mike Mussina’s curve), it goes to the plate on a straighter plane but still has some action as it gets there. It’s how A.J. Burnett throws his curve.

Hughes devoted a lot of time in the Arizona Fall League to working on that particular pitch. “It’s hard to change because you get used to throwing a pitch a certain way,” he said. “In games, you tend to go back to what is comfortable. But they’ve been staying on me to throw the power curve more. I have to trust it and I do.”

That was the pitch he fanned Adam Dunn on.

Hughes also has changed the grip on his change-up. He throws it like a splitter.

Consistent arm speed is huge for a pitcher, as that is how you deceive the hitter. If the hitter can see a pitcher’s arm slowing down, he can adjust to a breaking pitch or a change-up.

It’s important to remember, I think, that Hughes is 22 and is still learning his craft. He said that often times last year, he went to the mound armed only with his fastball and that looping curve. Now he has a fastball, a tighter curve, a change-up he likes and a cutter that is getting better and better.

Hughes allowed three hits against a great lineup today. One was a bleeder by Dustin Pedroia. Ryan Braun shattered his bat on a single to left. Then Derek Jeter got one of his “I’ve done this a million times” 17-hopper up the middle that scored two runs with two outs. If you watched Hughes today, you saw a guy who can be special.

“He was impressive,” Jorge Posada said. “Everything I saw, I liked.”

Scott Aldred, who really knows his stuff, will be the pitching coach in AAA this year. He worked with Hughes in Arizona. That will help Hughes continue the progress he is making.

Obviously, it’s about health in the end. Counting Arizona and everything else, Hughes has thrown only 220 innings the last two seasons. That’s about 130 innings fewer than they would have hoped. There is no replacing that experience.

If he stays healthy, Hughes can do some great things. He may start the season in Scranton, but Hughes is going to play a significant role with the Yankees this season one way or another. He’s too good not to.

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166 Responses to “Talking pitching with Phil Hughes”

  1. pecosmedic March 3rd, 2009 at 9:44 pm

    way too good to be in in triple a.

  2. rifalcon42 March 3rd, 2009 at 9:46 pm

    i really hope he continues his progress and is a part of the team come august! hey pete, im flying to tampa friday and plan on going to the sox/yankee game in ft myers the 13th… could you tell me if these games typically sell out? i could get tix on stubhub but they charge an arm and a leg! any info would be greatly appreciated! thanks

  3. Yanky Hanky March 3rd, 2009 at 9:49 pm

    Hughes struck out Adam Dunn?!

    WOW!

    Dunn rarely strikes out.

  4. Doug March 3rd, 2009 at 9:50 pm

    If Joba gets off to a slow start, the pressure will be on to bring up Hughes and send Joba to AAA.

    This is not the year for development, this is the year to win. The best pitchers should pitch, period. And If Joba doesn’t do well early on and Hughes lights up the minors, they need to reverse roles. Cashman can’t let his ego and media perception get in the way of putting the best team on the field.

    If they could take Mussina out of the rotation after 3 bad starts in favor of Ian Kennedy in 2007, they sure as heck can take Joba out in favor of Hughes.

  5. 82 Road March 3rd, 2009 at 9:53 pm

    Hank – lol exactly. Striking out Adam Dunn isin’t exactly a big achievement.

    He has to be such a frustrating player for a team to have. Can’t believe people here wanted to sign him.

  6. dave March 3rd, 2009 at 9:55 pm

    Soul – I would believe you if manny didnt just sign a two year deal. If he signed a one year deal with the dodgers, I could see us landing manny next off season. But are we really going to trade prospect for the guy and then, pay him 22.5 mil? I doubt it. If he performs well over 2 seasons and with posada likely at the end of his career, I can see us landing him.

    As of next year- we take that sweet 30 mil from damon and matsui and give it to bay/holliday and if montero isnt ready, try to find a catcher. We stick posada in the dh spot to make sure he stays healthy and then, have a lineup of ajax, jeter, arod, tex, holliday/bay, Posada, cano, swish, montero/some other decent catcher and then, the following year look for manny to dh if he can still play. Frankly, filling the dh spot isnt much a concern until posada retired anyway IMO.

  7. Mike R March 3rd, 2009 at 9:56 pm

    Doug, the only way Joba is getting sent to AAA (knock on wood) is if he gets hurt and has to rehab there.

    I’d love to see Hughes have an impact this year, but even if he doesn’t he’ll still only be 23 years old next year.

  8. S.A.-The 2009 MLB season is almost here March 3rd, 2009 at 10:00 pm

    I still believe in Phil. He just has to stay healthy.

  9. Joe March 3rd, 2009 at 10:00 pm

    Doesn’t Manny have the opt out in his contract after 1 year?

  10. Betsy March 3rd, 2009 at 10:01 pm

    Pete, this was terrific – thanks for posting!

    There are so many good bits here that it’s hard to know where to start. I guess I’ll just say that Phil is a smart kid and a hard worker; armed with a very valuable arm, he’s got all the weapons he needs to be a very good pitcher. What he needs right now is what he is going to get in AAA – time. He needs the time that he was deprived of in 2007 – time to polish his repertoire and to learn how to pitch in all situations. When he came up to the majors, he’d never even faced a bases loaded situation – that is remarkable to me.

    Knowing Phil, he’s picking the brains of AJ and Mo – he could do worse, lol.

  11. Much Ado about Something March 3rd, 2009 at 10:01 pm

    shocker… ESPN news of Manny signing with Dodgers is false. They are talking but no deal yet.

  12. jax gmen March 3rd, 2009 at 10:03 pm

    you guys are crazy if you think hughes will beat out joba

    did you guys watch joba last year? he was lights out as a starter in his limited appearances.

    hughes will not threaten joba at all, joba is too good.

  13. dave March 3rd, 2009 at 10:04 pm

    THat is pretty amazing that hughes can take a big breaking curve and turn it into a tight power curve all within one off season pretty much. That is what I love about phil. he has a real knack for learning new things very quickly. That change is crucial to his ability to be an effective starter. I am also a bit surprised they told phil to rework the curve as i thought it was very effective at the major league level against the rangers or maybe i am mistaken but i could swear that curve was like dynamite that day – exploding out of the zone.

    ” If you watched Hughes today, you saw a guy who can be special.” great line pete and i have said that before when i watched him pitch. He just looks special when he is on his game. He looks like he could be an ace. He just need to develop that chance to the point where it is a major league effective pitch and he will have a good major league career at the worst. That is why I like that he is headed back to triple A. He has about 2-3 months or so to work on that changeup in my estimation and as i said, this kid is a FAST learner.

  14. Redding March 3rd, 2009 at 10:05 pm

    What? So there is a chance we could sneak in and still sign Manny?

    hooray!!!

  15. riyankee42 March 3rd, 2009 at 10:05 pm

    does anyone know how if spring training games typically sell out, or where besides stubhub one can get them? im looking for a more reasonable price than what they have to offer

  16. jack March 3rd, 2009 at 10:07 pm

    As long as A-Rod keeps himself out of the news, we can talk about baseball.

    Blame A-Rod for making himself the story, not Pete. A-Rod is the face of the franchise, anything he does is more newsworthy than some meaningless Spring results.

  17. Brandon Witnessed Dwayne Wade pull an MJ March 3rd, 2009 at 10:09 pm

    What a theft the Nets got in Brook Lopez

    Anyone have news on Braylon Edwards to Big Blue ?

  18. duh March 3rd, 2009 at 10:09 pm

    “Blame A-Rod for making himself the story, not Pete. A-Rod is the face of the franchise, anything he does is more newsworthy than some meaningless Spring results.”

    yes, “he made himself the story” by giving himself a cyst on his hip.

    the posts just keep getting dumber.

  19. bodhisattva March 3rd, 2009 at 10:09 pm

    ^^^I sure hope we sign Manny. This is one of the few instances when I wish George was still in charge.

    Amazing that we are going to let the best hitter in baseball slip through our fingers.

    How in the world does Cashman pass on this:

    Teixeira
    ARod
    Manny

    ???

    Repeat that to yourself 10 times….

  20. GreenBeret7 March 3rd, 2009 at 10:11 pm

    Unless injuries hit before the end of ST, there’s no reason for Hughes to break camp with the Yanks. Let him get his work in at Scranton. When Chamberlain needs to cut back his innings, then bring in Hughes to pick up some starts for Chamberlain or whoever needs rest. He still has options and sitting on the bench or in the pen does him no good. He can use the time to work on the curve, cutter or change-up.

  21. dave March 3rd, 2009 at 10:12 pm

    Doug- when was the last time you actually watched the yanks? Joba to triple A? If he fails as a starter, he would go to the pen IN THE MAJORS. Why drop joba down to triple A after he has proved he could be effective in both roles. Hughes is still working on his change and his cutter. Right now, he still only has two pitches that dont need any work but two is not enough for a starter. He will go down to triple A and perfect the change and work on the cutter and come up to the majors in a few months with three to four big league pitches. And what does cashmans ego have to do with anything??? I dont understand that comment at all.

  22. NY Ranger March 3rd, 2009 at 10:13 pm

    I wish I could get excited about Hughes’ performance this Spring, but its hard knowing that he’s going to spend most of the season in AAA unless there is an injury and we can’t see his results at the ML level. We already know he can dominate the minors. It’s a tease more than anything else– because you know he has major league ability but he won’t get a serious chance to show it until a year from now barring injuries (they are not going to waste him on spot starts to caddy Joba, that is for Aceves etc.)

  23. RalphieD (for free sports betting look here http://www.centsports.com/?opcode=317843) March 3rd, 2009 at 10:13 pm

    i want hughes to succeed so much…not just cause hes a yankee and i want all yankees to succeed but because so many people doubt him…this is how i also feel about gardner…

  24. Brandon Witnessed Dwayne Wade pull an MJ March 3rd, 2009 at 10:14 pm

    ‘How in the world does Cashman pass on this:’

    Because he doesn’t want Manny, plain and simple.

  25. Jeff D March 3rd, 2009 at 10:15 pm

    The only way Joba is in the pen is if the Bruney, Martes, Veras’ of the world implode early and we need him there to stabilize the pen because it is costing us games.

    If he is not effective as a starter in the majors, he will go to AAA and Hughes will come up. No need to move him back to the pen if the present relievers are pitching well, that is a waste. He needs innings.

  26. dave March 3rd, 2009 at 10:15 pm

    bodhittsava – i AGREE but still contend that we would need to trade matsui and most of his contract for nothing to the giants and then, sign manny. Doesnt seem like it will happen even though that is one sick lineup. If manny wants more than 22.5 mil next season, we are talking 25 mil. Adding that to the current payroll is too high a number but dumping matsui’s 15 mil and clearing out the dh spot would really be the only way it would work. i JUST DONT SEE IT.

  27. PAT M. March 3rd, 2009 at 10:16 pm

    It’s been so many times before ( when it wasn’t so popular a few months ago ) Phil Hughes is going to be a star pitcher in the MLB….

  28. darkmoonfire March 3rd, 2009 at 10:17 pm

    Ye gods… if people aren’t talking about Arod, they are whining about Manny.

    This thread is about Phil Hughes. Seriously. Manny IS nothing to do with the Yankees. WAS not a Yankee. WILL not be a Yankee. It’s over. (Thankfully) Drop it.

    Phil looked great out there today. I think for the first time in a few years we can feel confident that we, not only have a great rotation, but there’s a lot of depth back there in AAA that can step up and do almost as good a job.

  29. dave March 3rd, 2009 at 10:17 pm

    Jeff- you are wrong IMO. I think if joba fails as a starter, he goes to the pen. I dont think he goes back to triple A in any scenario whatsoever.

  30. dave March 3rd, 2009 at 10:19 pm

    Pat M – No doubt in my mind.

  31. Danny March 3rd, 2009 at 10:20 pm

    Those of you who think he will displace Joba, 2 words– Spring Training. Ian Kennedy looked pretty good last year too.

    If Hughes wants to be a successful starter at the ML level, he NEEDS an effective change-up. He doesn’t have one now. If he doesn’t get one, he’s going to have mixed results. Don’t judge him based on 2 innings of Spring Training. If he is facing a ML lineup 3-4 times through, he needs a change-up and the only place to develop that is AAA.

  32. Giuseppe Franco March 3rd, 2009 at 10:21 pm

    Joba will not be moved back to the pen. Period.

    The move to make him a starter is not an experiment. The move to the pen was the experiment.

    This is a long term plan. Joba remains in the rotation for the duration of 2009 no matter what.

    And 2010 as well for that matter.

    He has too much talent not to be given every opportunity to become one of the elite front line starters in the game.

  33. 82 Road March 3rd, 2009 at 10:21 pm

    dave – If Joba has a few bad starts in the majors, they are not going to end this starter aspirations. If they do, then its clear they have no idea how to develop young pitching.

  34. Tom March 3rd, 2009 at 10:24 pm

    It seems that Hughes is always being messed with. Don’t throw the slider, throw the “organizational curve ball”, wear glasses, don’t wear glasses. Change your pitching mechanics. Learn a cutter. Throw a harder curve. Learn a change-up….Just let the kid pitch.

  35. 7*7 March 3rd, 2009 at 10:25 pm

    As Jeff said, the only scenario in which Joba is in the pen this year is if the current guys are ineffective early on and we need Joba there temporarily so we don’t lose games because we can’t get to Mariano.

    Basically the BP has to pitch like the Mets bullpen last year for them to put him back there.

  36. Guard March 3rd, 2009 at 10:26 pm

    Tom, absolutely agree. They need to let him do what he feels comfortable with, not try and change him. Why can’t they let the guy be himself and do what got him the #1 prospect in 2006? Stop tinkering with the guy.

  37. Brandon Witnessed Dwayne Wade pull an MJ March 3rd, 2009 at 10:26 pm

    ‘Basically the BP has to pitch like the Mets bullpen last year for them to put him back there.’

    That’s a pretty difficult task.

  38. vinny-b March 3rd, 2009 at 10:30 pm

    “There is a good chance Manny will be a Yankee next year considering the DH is there and we’re going to have to replace Damon/Matsui”

    not really.

    if Manny were to ever be on NYY, then he would be right now.

    it was between Manny and Tex. And Cashman picked Tex.

  39. dave March 3rd, 2009 at 10:30 pm

    82 road – i never said a few bad games as a starter. I said, if he fails as a starter – which really means if he is miserable or struggles for the majority of the season. I think he will be given every opportunity to prove himself. i DONT THINK he will ever go back to triple A over going back to the pen in this scenario. But does it even matter at this point? ?

  40. bodhisattva March 3rd, 2009 at 10:30 pm

    Brandon Witnessed Dwayne Wade pull an MJ
    March 3rd, 2009 at 10:14 pm
    ‘How in the world does Cashman pass on this:’
    Because he doesn’t want Manny, plain and simple.

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    Sorry, I spend $4,000 on tickets; not wanting Manny doesn’t cut it for me.
    Fiscal restraint gets trumped by having the opportunity to get the game’s best hitter. You spend the extra money and shuffle the deck later.

  41. duh March 3rd, 2009 at 10:31 pm

    “It seems that Hughes is always being messed with. Don’t throw the slider, throw the “organizational curve ball”, wear glasses, don’t wear glasses. Change your pitching mechanics. Learn a cutter. Throw a harder curve. Learn a change-up….Just let the kid pitch.”

    you’re right. you should draft a kid out of high school and not try to teach him how to pitch.

    just let him pitch! he’s 18, he knows more than the coaches!!

  42. MilBkid March 3rd, 2009 at 10:31 pm

    Great job Pete. Posts like this one is what makes LoHud the best sports blog in the universe.

    I am pumped up over this news because I’ve been wishing Hughes would make this adjustment – harder curveball on same plane as his FB – for a long, long time.

  43. bodhisattva March 3rd, 2009 at 10:32 pm

    vinny-b
    March 3rd, 2009 at 10:30 pm
    “There is a good chance Manny will be a Yankee next year considering the DH is there and we’re going to have to replace Damon/Matsui”
    not really.
    if Manny were to ever be on NYY, then he would be right now.
    it was between Manny and Tex. And Cashman picked Tex.

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    There’s some truth to that but it’s also a poor alibi. The Yankees have no business not signing Ramirez. No business. I don’t want to hear that nickel and dime crap about too many outfielders and being over budget. It is a complete crock.

  44. duh March 3rd, 2009 at 10:32 pm

    “Sorry, I spend $4,000 on tickets; not wanting Manny doesn’t cut it for me.”

    this is dumb. the Yankees shelled out over $425M in contracts this offseason. in case you hadn’t noticed, no one else spent a dime.

    when does it end? when the posters at LoHud are finally satisfied?

  45. duh March 3rd, 2009 at 10:34 pm

    “I don’t want to hear that nickel and dime crap about too many outfielders and being over budget.”

    simply incredible.

    “nickel and dime”.

    you are the only person on earth who would use that phrase to describe the Yankee offseason.

    seriously, you sound like a raging lunatic. just stop. you’re embarrassing yourself.

  46. dave March 3rd, 2009 at 10:34 pm

    tom – i have to agree with you on that. It was clear his curve was effective. Why they felt the need to change it is any ones guess. mAYBE he has better command if it is tighter – who knows? But hughes has basically thrown 6 different pitches somewhat effectively in a short time period and because of that, he has only mastered two of them. If they didnt have him reowork the curve, he likely would have mastered his changeup by now. Im sure there is a method to the madness here but I am also pretty sure in the time it has taken for phil to learn to throw 6 pitches, he could have learned how to master 3 or 4.

  47. Tom March 3rd, 2009 at 10:35 pm

    Except, duh, most of those changes the Yankees made Hughes implement came after he was named a top prospect in 2006. He seemed to be going fine before them.

  48. Steve M March 3rd, 2009 at 10:37 pm

    Pete, you can’t post nonsense about A-Rod every afternoon after the game and then make fun of how A-Rod dominates the news. No, I’m not an A-Rod supporter, I hate the guy, but am sick of reading about his kids or an innocent quote that you know meant nothing.

    Be the MLB correspondent for TMZ if you want because other than your A-Rod obsession, I love the blog and read it every single day for hours, but if you are going to keep doing it, don’t then fault the guy for dominating the news when you’re the one creating it.

  49. Brandon Witnessed Dwayne Wade pull an MJ March 3rd, 2009 at 10:37 pm

    ‘Sorry, I spend $4,000 on tickets; not wanting Manny doesn’t cut it for me.
    Fiscal restraint gets trumped by having the opportunity to get the game’s best hitter. You spend the extra money and shuffle the deck later.’

    Dude there has to come a point where defense in th OF is a priority. Look you have the best leadoff man in baseball, a project in CF and in RF a 30/90 guy, plus a 30/100 guy on the bench. The infield between Alex/Teix potentially will have over 250 RBIs between the two.

    Again the priority was SP and add a bit of offense, they did that.

  50. Distd March 3rd, 2009 at 10:37 pm

    So who is going to replace Damon, Matsui, and Nady next off-season? Austin Jackson?

  51. vinny-b March 3rd, 2009 at 10:38 pm

    “There’s some truth to that but it’s also a poor alibi. The Yankees have no business not signing Ramirez. No business. I don’t want to hear that nickel and dime crap about too many outfielders and being over budget. It is a complete crock”

    tongue in cheek? I hope…?

  52. dave March 3rd, 2009 at 10:39 pm

    boddhitsava – you are saying that the yanks should pay no attention to payroll and sign three left fielders, two of whom can barely play the field at all for a grand total of 55 mil plus. Life doesnt work that way buddy. We all buy tickets here and the yanks shell out a lot – we just picked up TWO of the best players in baseball both of whom are in their prime in the same off season while signing two more starters. With damon, matsui and manny someone who is being payed 15 mil or more would likely be riding the bench every single day and you cant just bank on one of them getting hurt.

  53. m March 3rd, 2009 at 10:40 pm

    Can’t get my phil of news on Hughes.

    If Phil is healthy, Phil is good.

  54. Brandon Witnessed Dwayne Wade pull an MJ March 3rd, 2009 at 10:41 pm

    ‘So who is going to replace Damon, Matsui, and Nady next off-season? Austin Jackson?’

    What’s wrong w/ Austin Jackson ? if he proves he can in AAA ?

  55. Can't Stand Ya March 3rd, 2009 at 10:41 pm

    Hey did anyone realize the rest of the 2009 ticket plans were on sale?

  56. Ham Fighters March 3rd, 2009 at 10:42 pm

    8 ml wins for phil this year

  57. dave March 3rd, 2009 at 10:42 pm

    add a bit of offense – we signed one of the best all around first baseman in the game in his prime. I agree with your point but i wanted to clarify that the yanks even drastically improved the lineup with tex and swisher could provide giambi like numbers for a quarter of the price.

  58. bodhisattva March 3rd, 2009 at 10:42 pm

    duh
    March 3rd, 2009 at 10:32 pm
    “Sorry, I spend $4,000 on tickets; not wanting Manny doesn’t cut it for me.”
    this is dumb. the Yankees shelled out over $425M in contracts this offseason. in case you hadn’t noticed, no one else spent a dime.
    when does it end? when the posters at LoHud are finally satisfied?

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    FTR, I’m not really a poster at Lohud – especially now that it is officially ARod Flagellation Central.

    Absolutely my point – we spend $425 million and then balk on Manny – crying we have to be responsible?

    My desire for Manny is very rational. Does it even require a defense? This is Manny Ramirez, do you understand baseball, fellow?

    I am generally against free agent signings, especially long-term as with Burnett, because stymie younger, in-house options get stymied, at some point.

    Ramirez is the exception. He is the best right-handed hitter not named Albert Pujols, and in a handful of greatest pure hitters in my lifetime.

    It makes sense on many fronts to sign Manny, and I have yet to see an argument against it that isn’t a crock.

  59. dave March 3rd, 2009 at 10:46 pm

    Damon, matsui and nady could be replaced by any number of guys – we have the in-house options with ajax and montero moving posada to dh depending on how they perform this season and we have guys like holliday and bay who are both free agents. We could also trade for or sign a decent catcher and wait for montero to develop or just move montero to a different position all together and try to pickup a really great catcher. There are alot of options to replace those three and all of these options are significantly younger and/or better than those three – more production and less injury risk . We could also re-sign damon to dh, keep posada as catcher and sign holliday/bay if damon does well this year.

  60. Brandon Witnessed Dwayne Wade pull an MJ March 3rd, 2009 at 10:46 pm

    You sound more like a Manny Ramirez fan than a Yankee fan. Not saying you are but we don’t need Manny, offense has improved drastically after last season, and to big pay Manny is a risk, he can’t defend, would be back in his hometown of Washington Heights w/ bad influences and the risk of his health, if this is Manny at 26 then you have a point, Manny in his late 30′s desperately looking for a big longterm pay day raises red flags.

  61. bodhisattva March 3rd, 2009 at 10:48 pm

    dave
    March 3rd, 2009 at 10:39 pm
    boddhitsava – you are saying that the yanks should pay no attention to payroll and sign three left fielders, two of whom can barely play the field at all for a grand total of 55 mil plus. Life doesnt work that way buddy. We all buy tickets here and the yanks shell out a lot – we just picked up TWO of the best players in baseball both of whom are in their prime in the same off season while signing two more starters. With damon, matsui and manny someone who is being payed 15 mil or more would likely be riding the bench every single day and you cant just bank on one of them getting hurt.

    XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX

    This is moot, because he’s on the verge of signing with LA, but to answer your post.

    Here’s a thought, buddy: Sign the best hitter in baseball, and then make moves to bring your payroll under control.

    What’s your solution if Matsui continues to have knee problems, if Posada’s shoulder not only precludes him keeping runners honest, but eliminates his ability to slug?

    Please feel free to actually answer these questions, rather than respond in a glib manner or reference “Manny being Manny.”

  62. dave March 3rd, 2009 at 10:52 pm

    Yea because the logjam of matsui, damon and manny is not a good enough reason for you boddhitsava. Well, they are all making 15 mil or more, are all old and two of them can barely play the field. So we have two positions for three guys at 55 mil in total. I dont see how that is a crock of a reason. Seems logical to me to try to prevent a situation like that. And i just dont think matsui has any buyers that wouldnt demand the yanks pay a good chunk of his salary.

  63. m March 3rd, 2009 at 10:53 pm

    Re-sign Damon? I thought Reyes was our leadoff hitter. If Damon’s not leading off, we don’t have much use for him.

  64. you gotta have faith (bronx zoo 2009) March 3rd, 2009 at 10:54 pm

    “Close one today. Man does that team have talent or what. Anyway tomorrow is another day. Can’t wait to get to the yard”

    -from swisher’s twitter

  65. Danny March 3rd, 2009 at 10:55 pm

    A lineup of

    Gardner CF
    Jeter SS
    Teix 1B
    ARod 3B
    Posada DH
    Swisher RF
    Cano 2B
    Molina C
    Jackson CF

    I can live with that in 2010… the defense will be AMAZING. Fresh young legs with Gardner/Jackson. Molina working well with the pitchers and playing great defense.

  66. Brandon Witnessed Dwayne Wade pull an MJ March 3rd, 2009 at 10:57 pm

    ‘What’s your solution if Matsui continues to have knee problems, if Posada’s shoulder not only precludes him keeping runners honest, but eliminates his ability to slug?’

    That’s why Teixeira is here, and it’s believed Robi Cano will have a bounce back yr. and you also have Xavier Nady for a full season, and incase all of that doesn’t work the Swish man Nick Swisher who is not only a more than good OBP % option but also a good versatile defender from LF to RF to 1B and on another team is a 30/90 type guy, as most of his HR were in big parks.

    Really man Manny is not needed.

  67. Soul March 3rd, 2009 at 10:57 pm

    If Damon takes a 2 yr deal, bring him back. Unless Gardner hits enough to warrant a leadoff spot, we kind of need Damon.

  68. vinny-b March 3rd, 2009 at 10:57 pm

    “Please feel free to actually answer these questions, rather than respond in a glib manner or reference “Manny being Manny”

    how bout, we don’t respond at all.

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  69. vinny-b March 3rd, 2009 at 10:58 pm

    rest/sleep well, everyone.

  70. dave March 3rd, 2009 at 10:58 pm

    Matsui getting injured is not much of a problem IMO – we have swisher and nady who could alternate dh and RF and I think the yanks are banking on this problem and thats why we have two starters for one spot. Posada is a much bigger concern – i THINK the yanks should have picked up a more capable backup catcher earlier this off season and i mean a better hitter than molina and his 210 batting avg. i THINK the yanks, dont have nearly as good a lineup with molina replacing posada and gardner/melky in center. At this point, we would have to trade good prospects to get someone actually quality to catch. So now, we have to take the wait and see approach and if posada gets hurt, we put on the sirens and make a quick trade for a good catcher kind of like the pudge trade last year but younger.

  71. Steve M March 3rd, 2009 at 10:59 pm

    Haha, was anybody just watching the MLB Network and see Matt Vasgersian say “what the f*** was that?”

  72. dave March 3rd, 2009 at 11:01 pm

    Danny -oNE, if molina is plugged into the starting catchers spot in 2010, I will have to kill myself. Two, you have two centerfielders and zero left fielders in that lineup of yours. Add in bay or holliday and i agree. Unless gardner turns his career around this season, I think the lineup could only take a risk of montero and ajax and not all 3 of them.

  73. Brandon Witnessed Dwayne Wade pull an MJ March 3rd, 2009 at 11:02 pm

    Dammit Jerry Reese what’s taking so long bring me Braylon Edwards. :x

  74. Can't Stand Ya March 3rd, 2009 at 11:03 pm

    Did anyone buy any of the yankee ticket plans? I just realized now the 15-game plans are on sale but only the field sections.

  75. Mike S. March 3rd, 2009 at 11:04 pm

    I have been high on Aldred for a couple of years now. His being at SWB will be a big deal. This guy is the coaching star of the organization. Look at his last two years at Trenton. Both years AA champs in the Eastern League. Great staffs. A few years back Charleston had a 3.20 ERA and led the SAL in that category. Aldred at AAA will be huge in working with a Melancon, Hughes and Kennedy. He’s a comer and a keeper.

  76. you gotta have faith (bronx zoo 2009) March 3rd, 2009 at 11:04 pm

    “Before Youkilis could secure the ball, the fans gathered at Steinbrenner Field unleashed a torrent of boos.

    “He said he was just giving Yankee fans another reason to hate him,” Jeter said with a laugh.”

    http://www.nj.com/yankees/inde.....and_b.html

  77. Rudy March 3rd, 2009 at 11:05 pm

    Steve I saw/heard it too! I was like WHOAAAA LOL. Screen went black after he made that verbal mistake and all I heard was “what the f**k!”

  78. dave March 3rd, 2009 at 11:06 pm

    m,

    Sure, we can get reyes in 2011. Imagine the truckload of arms we would have to hand to the mets to land reyes before he is a free agent. His contract is great (the mets are really good at signing their young stars to cheap deals) and that is all the more reason to think Joba, Hughes and ajax or some combo like that ridiculous implosion of our best young talent. No thanks. Maybe arod likes the idea but i think i will wait until reyes is actually a free agent.

  79. dave March 3rd, 2009 at 11:07 pm

    I dont know how long melancon will even have to find out about aldreds family. He will be in the bronx by may NO DOUBT in my mind.

  80. Jonathan Everett March 3rd, 2009 at 11:08 pm

    I think Arod said that he would like to have Johan Santana on the team, because he is a good pitcher.

  81. m March 3rd, 2009 at 11:09 pm

    dave,

    That was a joke. Reyes is a good player, but I’m not a big fan of his immature behavior. He’ll be a Met forever anyway.

  82. GreenBeret7 March 3rd, 2009 at 11:11 pm

    Actually, Damon would be a Hell of a number three hitter. He hits for average, he can hit for a decent amount of power (extra base power), he walks and he steals bases. It wouldn’t make much sense to move Jeter from shortstop, but, yeah, Reyes would make a very good center fielder, but, he’s still at least two years from FA. He has a 2011 option year. It’s not going to happen.

  83. dave March 3rd, 2009 at 11:12 pm

    I would like to have pujols, hanley, santana, nathan and others on the yanks at some point so does that mean I hate Tex, jeter, CC and Mo? It just means i think those are some of the best players in baseball and could definitely help us win. That is all arod was actually saying – he thinks reyes is one of the best in baseball. And im sure jeter even realizes that his days at short are numbered.

  84. bodhisattva March 3rd, 2009 at 11:12 pm

    Brandon Witnessed Dwayne Wade pull an MJ
    March 3rd, 2009 at 10:46 pm
    You sound more like a Manny Ramirez fan than a Yankee fan. Not saying you are but we don’t need Manny, offense has improved drastically after last season, and to big pay Manny is a risk, he can’t defend, would be back in his hometown of Washington Heights w/ bad influences and the risk of his health, if this is Manny at 26 then you have a point, Manny in his late 30’s desperately looking for a big longterm pay day raises red flags.

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    Is this where I come in and protest my undying love for the Yankees? Not going there.

    If by “we don’t need Manny” you mean we are well disposed to win it all as we are, I would agree up to a point. Things must go right: Matsui and Posada MUST give us OPS. We must not wear out by October, always a risk with an older team.

    Conversely, there’s no team that “doesn’t need” a hitter who is that accomplished. When you say “We don’t need Manny” I can’t take that position seriously. Who is good enough in baseball that they “don’t need” a player like that? And with the resources we have, one finds a way. Speculation about his character or personality do not rate in the face of such a peerless and productive talent.

    He may not be 26, but his 36 is showing no decline whatsoever. He is not a slouchy, washed up dinosaur like Giambi, who drinks Jack Daniels for breakfast; Ramirez works tirelessly on his health and on hitting, and he is not an all-or-nothing, no-contact jack-bat; he moves runners and is brilliant situationally.

    His Heights neighborhood and its influence doesn’t even make sense. You’re making off-base connections that have nothing to do with what this guy is able to accomplish with a bat – what he’s been able to do for years, now. As he was “quitting” on Boston, he was hitting over .300 and coming through in the clutch. Good luck, Red Sox, making it through a whole season without Manny cleaning up for you.

    Manny hit .332/.430/.601 with a 164 OPS+ in 153 games last season. Does that speak of decline?

    Manny, over his career, has ridiculous numbers in high leverage situations:

    .319/.425/.593/1.018

    Would Manny raise flags if he came to the Yankees? You bet he would, because with what we have already, the addition of Manny would virtually guarantee the pennant.

  85. Crow March 3rd, 2009 at 11:12 pm

    Didn’t A-Rod even think about the things wrong with his Reyes statement before he made it?

  86. dave March 3rd, 2009 at 11:13 pm

    m,

    Sarcasm is just so hard to express on a blog. I know it was a joke.

  87. Nick March 3rd, 2009 at 11:13 pm

    I was very impressed with Coke today

  88. IRA March 3rd, 2009 at 11:14 pm

    Phil Hughes is going to be a significant part of the rotation someday. I wish he was the 5th starter and Joba was in the bullpen.It would be great to see Phil Hughes,Mark Melancon, Phil Coke ,David Robertson and of corse Joba plAy a huge part in a new group of power arms developed in the Yankees organization.

  89. m March 3rd, 2009 at 11:15 pm

    I think that A-rod would take back that statement if he could. There’s lots of ways to compliment a guy, but that was a loaded statement.

  90. yankee 822 March 3rd, 2009 at 11:15 pm

    We have a more mature version of Reyes in Brett Gardner.

  91. keith March 3rd, 2009 at 11:17 pm

    comparing gardner to JOSE REYES? this blog is atrocious

  92. Rob NY -- 2009 The Road to Redemption March 3rd, 2009 at 11:17 pm

    Brandon — Stop playing games with my emotions, Braylon Edwards is the man. What are you hearing the G-Men would give up to get him?

  93. dave March 3rd, 2009 at 11:18 pm

    Crow,

    How many times have you said in your life man would I love to have (insert player here) on the yanks. Does that mean you have no respect or completely dislike the player who is currently playing that position on the yanks? Maybe if it is a 2009 center fielder but outside of that, i greatly doubt it. I bet you would like hanley ramirez on the team? Does that mean you just hate jeter? Absolutely not. Its the same for arod – he is just saying how good of a player reyes is.

  94. m March 3rd, 2009 at 11:19 pm

    And I thought it dissed Damon more than Jeter. Damon might take offense. If there’s anyone on the team who’s sensitive, it’s Damon.

  95. Zolio March 3rd, 2009 at 11:20 pm

    Pic of Wang (and Joba with glasses) at the Magic game tonight

    http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/te.....doa110%3A1

  96. Brandon Witnessed Dwayne Wade pull an MJ March 3rd, 2009 at 11:20 pm

    ‘Brandon—Stop playing games with my emotions, Braylon Edwards is the man. What are you hearing the G-Men would give up to get him?’

    Kiwa + a pick so far.

  97. m March 3rd, 2009 at 11:20 pm

    Well, Gardner is speedy and he is mature.

  98. Don March 3rd, 2009 at 11:22 pm

    mel,

    That’s what I thought too. Damon is very sensitive. The media is going to hound him tomorrow.

  99. Rob NY -- 2009 The Road to Redemption March 3rd, 2009 at 11:22 pm

    Looks like Bradshaw is going to get some legitimate time too, Ward signed with the Buccaneers. Good for him I guess.

  100. bodhisattva March 3rd, 2009 at 11:24 pm

    keith
    March 3rd, 2009 at 11:17 pm
    comparing gardner to JOSE REYES? this blog is atrocious

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    Agree, that is fantastical.

    Many people on here seem to equate a player’s ability with their subjective feelings about that player. I notice it here more than any other sites I’ve visited.

    If a player has a generally agreed-upon tag as a mischief maker, a quitter, or has transgressed in some way, the community just turns a blind eye to what makes the player a player – his actual ability between the lines – and rides off together into the sunset on their high horses, congratulating eachother for their enlightened views.

    I would put Manny, ARod and even Cano in the above category.

    For baseball knowledge – detached from emotional agenda and holier-than-thou-ness – with some exceptions, obviously – this forum scores very low.

  101. Curtis March 3rd, 2009 at 11:24 pm

    I’d rather trade Eli to try and acquire Jay Cutler than trade Kiwi for Edwards

  102. Curtis March 3rd, 2009 at 11:26 pm

    Players like Gardner won’t go through slumps because they can always beat out balls put in play and make things happen. He can also bunt for hits.

  103. GreenBeret7 March 3rd, 2009 at 11:27 pm

    m
    March 3rd, 2009 at 11:19 pm
    And I thought it dissed Damon more than Jeter. Damon might take offense. If there’s anyone on the team who’s sensitive, it’s Damon.

    ————————————————————

    Damon and Rodriguez have known each other for nearly 20 years, so, I’d think that Damon understood what was said. Does Rodriguez think about how it might sound? Doubtful, but, if he said it in a PC way, the same people/press banging him for this would be banging him for sounding phoney. Just like when he says anything or says “No comment”. This whole thing is about nothing more than the media not having enough things to write about.

    Talk about phoney.

  104. Brandon Witnessed Dwayne Wade pull an MJ March 3rd, 2009 at 11:27 pm

    Curtis we have Chris Canty and Osi is returning, Kiwa is the odd man out here if you can land a Braylon Edwards you do it. Jay Cutler is going to require more and frankly I don’t see that happening.

  105. bodhisattva March 3rd, 2009 at 11:29 pm

    yankee 822
    March 3rd, 2009 at 11:15 pm
    We have a more mature version of Reyes in Brett Gardner.

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    I’m sorry, but I have endured so much useless B.S. about Alex Rodriguez – arguably baseball’s best player – that gets conflated with his actual baseball ability, on this site, that I find myself spending less and less time on here.

    But this – this is ….Gardner is a nice player. Can he hit ML pitching, restored to its full arsenal, in mid-season? We will find out, for the manager seems determined to put him in center field.

    But comparing Gardner with Jose Reyes is an Epic Fail. Epic.

  106. dave March 3rd, 2009 at 11:29 pm

    I also find it impossible that players have never said before that they wouldnt mind having a specific player on their team. I cant remember who said that but i know arod wasnt the first one.

  107. Y26 March 3rd, 2009 at 11:30 pm

    I wouldn’t mind Tony Gonzalez either for the Giants… but I doubt they trade him now that they have Cassel

  108. Brandon Witnessed Dwayne Wade pull an MJ March 3rd, 2009 at 11:30 pm

    ‘The deal makes sense for both teams on several levels. The Giants would be looking for a credible replacement for WR Plaxico Burress, and are keeping Kiwanuka as a defensive end in a three-man rotation after he switched from linebacker last year.

    The 6’5”, 265 Kiwanuka is a classic tweener would like like an interesting option for the Browns manning an outside linebacker spot in the 3-4 defense. Kiwi successfully made the transition from a Boston College defensive end to a linebacker with the Giants, but was moved back as a defensive end following a season-ending injury to Osi Umenyiora.

    Also of interest from Cleveland perspective is that Kiwanuka is under contract for two more years. Braylon Edwards can be a free agent after this season.

    Kiwi as another OLB bookend with Crabtree perhaps available in the draft? Hmmm… count me in as interested.’

    Here’s what I got from Cleveland’s insider board.

  109. J-Dawg--Veintisiete en... let's try '09! March 3rd, 2009 at 11:34 pm

    I’d say that Phil is in a good situation if the injury bug will stay away. There won’t be much pressure on him since most of the attention will be on CC and A.J.

    He can fine tune his cutter and change-up and I think that we will see a different animal this season, whether it’s in New York or in Scranton.

    The future for Hughes is looking very good, knock on wood.

  110. bodhisattva March 3rd, 2009 at 11:35 pm

    ave
    March 3rd, 2009 at 10:52 pm
    Yea because the logjam of matsui, damon and manny is not a good enough reason for you boddhitsava. Well, they are all making 15 mil or more, are all old and two of them can barely play the field. So we have two positions for three guys at 55 mil in total. I dont see how that is a crock of a reason. Seems logical to me to try to prevent a situation like that. And i just dont think matsui has any buyers that wouldnt demand the yanks pay a good chunk of his salary.

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    It’s not good enough because of the pedigree of the player. The season is ongoing – you can sign Manny and cope with the logjam as the season progresses.

    Matsui cannot even run the bases currently. I can’t be cavalier about that. I agree Matsui is not a candidate for a trade, but Swisher may well be, and Nady could be. A creative GM, with the Yankees resources, would find a way to get this done.

  111. Brandon Witnessed Dwayne Wade pull an MJ March 3rd, 2009 at 11:37 pm

    If your a Giants fan you want to kiss Jerry Reese’s feet if he gets this done.

    The strategy sign DT Rocky Bernard and Chris Canty, exspendable is Kiwanuka, we won a superbowl w/ him on the IR, Osi is returning, you add Braylon Edwards that’s a #1 WR when on his game.

  112. S.A.-The 2009 MLB season is almost here March 3rd, 2009 at 11:38 pm

    I’d rather trade Eli to try and acquire Jay Cutler than trade Kiwi for Edwards

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    Oh Please. Imagine Cutler in NY? He acts like a baby in Denver, he would have a break down in NY.

  113. Betsy March 3rd, 2009 at 11:39 pm

    The guy for NJ.com does a good job….I knew Phil’s pitches to Jete just got away from him, lol, although I imagine the Yanks were a bit nervous when they saw those pitches…..
    Anyhow, I just saw Phil (taped the game) and he looked really good; that curve to Dunn was nasty. He also broke Braun’s bat……..Overall, really solid performance; I’m very pleased with Phil so far.

  114. Rob NY -- 2009 The Road to Redemption March 3rd, 2009 at 11:41 pm

    Yeah put Edwards on the Giants and he’ll be focused on doing damage. Kiwi is good but he isn’t great. Tuck and Osi are great players and the way Reese drafts D-Linemen i’m not concerned over losing the runt of the litter. (Sorry Kiwi but these are the breaks.)

  115. bodhisattva March 3rd, 2009 at 11:41 pm

    That’s why Teixeira is here, and it’s believed Robi Cano will have a bounce back yr. and you also have Xavier Nady for a full season, and incase all of that doesn’t work the Swish man Nick Swisher who is not only a more than good OBP % option but also a good versatile defender from LF to RF to 1B and on another team is a 30/90 type guy, as most of his HR were in big parks.
    Really man Manny is not needed.

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    Agree with everything, except that Manny is not “needed.”

    Manny would make a formidable lineup indomitable. To me, that’s justification for bringing him here. A player who can have that dramatic an impact needs to be gotten.

  116. Phil March 3rd, 2009 at 11:43 pm

    Now this is great news. Phil’s curve did look different today and now we know why. Now we just need him to get his `06 velo back. Thanks, Pete.

  117. S.A.-The 2009 MLB season is almost here March 3rd, 2009 at 11:44 pm

    Pic of Wang (and Joba with glasses) at the Magic game tonight

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    I kinda like Joba in his glasses

  118. David March 3rd, 2009 at 11:45 pm

    Cutler has such a nice arm

  119. Brandon Witnessed Dwayne Wade pull an MJ March 3rd, 2009 at 11:46 pm

    ‘Yeah put Edwards on the Giants and he’ll be focused on doing damage. Kiwi is good but he isn’t great. Tuck and Osi are great players and the way Reese drafts D-Linemen i’m not concerned over losing the runt of the litter. (Sorry Kiwi but these are the breaks.)’

    If Reese gets this done he must be the most calculated GM in sports, srsly. it’s like he’s playing chess.

  120. m March 3rd, 2009 at 11:47 pm

    GB7,

    Oh, I’m sure Damon will just laugh. He’ll say, “That’s just Alex being Alex.”

  121. ZMan March 3rd, 2009 at 11:47 pm

    I’d do Kiwi and picks for Braylon in a heartbeat.

    Imagine him in this offense? A 25 yr old with freakish athletic skills and is 1 yr removed from a 16 TD/1300 yard season.

  122. jonnycat March 3rd, 2009 at 11:47 pm

    manny says ‘tell LA Mannywood is coming’, and the fans love him. People here want him on the yankees. Meanwhile, Arod is on the field with his kids the other day and people want to crucify him. You have to admit manny is another huge off the field mess..

  123. Brandon Witnessed Dwayne Wade pull an MJ March 3rd, 2009 at 11:51 pm

    ‘I’d do Kiwi and picks for Braylon in a heartbeat.

    Imagine him in this offense? A 25 yr old with freakish athletic skills and is 1 yr removed from a 16 TD/1300 yard season.’

    I know this is too far of a thought, but could you imagine Braylon and the leg shooter on the same field..Mercy rule. 8O

  124. Phil March 3rd, 2009 at 11:51 pm

    They’re not trading Kiwi.

  125. dave March 3rd, 2009 at 11:52 pm

    the only problem is that trading guys like nady or swish does very little to overcome the extra 25 mil that manny will add and neither of them are really part of the LF/DH only crowd or should I say the geriatric crowd? I would wait until matsui and posada are no longer clogging the dh spot and then, take my chances with a guy like manny. The thing that i dont like though is signing a guy to dh when it is the best place to hide the defensive atrocities of the aging player.

    And with tex settled at first, I just wonder where posada will be playing next season and where jeter will be playing in a few years? If we sign manny now for two seasons, we will be forced to cross our fingers and pray that posada remains healthy for 2 more years. Then, a guy like montero cannot be our major league catcher for two more years at the minimum. I just dont like the idea- it creates alot of problems in the future. Id rather spend that money on a younger player who can actual field a position.

  126. bodhisattva March 3rd, 2009 at 11:52 pm

    jonnycat
    March 3rd, 2009 at 11:47 pm
    manny says ‘tell LA Mannywood is coming’, and the fans love him. People here want him on the yankees. Meanwhile, Arod is on the field with his kids the other day and people want to crucify him. You have to admit manny is another huge off the field mess..

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    You faint-hearted people never would have survived the Mantle years… Mickey was forced to room with Roger to keep him out of trouble. The ARod situation is the exception, but there is no “off the field.” It doesn’t exist. Baseball exists between the lines. You are the puppet of newspapermen who need to sell their papers.

    Manny sees a pitch coming, and he knows what to do with it. He isn’t affected by how high or low the stakes are. He is as mechanically perfect a hitter as there has ever been. He has no exploitable weakness.

    The rest is not baseball.

  127. Nick March 3rd, 2009 at 11:53 pm

    I don’t think Reese would pull the trigger on a WR trade until he knows for sure that Burress is going to jail. He sounded like he really wanted him back today with Francessa. Makes sense from his perspective— Burress is signed to a very cheap deal and he can keep Kiwi and the picks while still getting back his #1 WR.

  128. R-Tek March 3rd, 2009 at 11:54 pm

    Do we have the cap space to get Braylon AND keep Burress?

  129. Brandon Witnessed Dwayne Wade pull an MJ March 3rd, 2009 at 11:54 pm

    ‘They’re not trading Kiwi.’

    Plaxico on side (if not convicted) Braylon Edwards on the other, 3 WR Steve Smith…Dominek Hixon PR and speed WR

    Trust me Kiwi is not a thought here. Love him but we won a superbowl w/o him. :lol:

  130. dave March 3rd, 2009 at 11:55 pm

    And 25 mil for a bat and no defensive capabilities to speak of with a 15 million dollar dh already on hand just sounds like a bad idea at the moment IMO. I know manny would be awesome in our lineup but its like trying to fit a square peg into a round hole – the pieces just dont fit right now. Next year, if posada catches all of this season, I think we could take on manny. In two years, with both matsui and posada likely retired, we can certainly take on a guy like that but not now.

  131. Brandon Witnessed Dwayne Wade pull an MJ March 3rd, 2009 at 11:56 pm

    ‘Do we have the cap space to get Braylon AND keep Burress?’

    If not they could deal Plax for Boldin. They are definitely targeting Edwards and Boldin.

  132. Phil March 3rd, 2009 at 11:56 pm

    Nick,

    He’s probably gonna pull the trigger on a trade for a WR before Plax’s trial, cause he stands to lose too much leverage in a trade if Plax gets sentenced. Plus, Plax’s 2009 salary is only 1M so the Giantscan carry whoever he trades for and Plax for at least the `09 season.

    They just aren’t trading Kiwi.

  133. Betsy March 3rd, 2009 at 11:57 pm

    http://bats.blogs.nytimes.com/.....hing-more/

    So in other words, Curry took the words in their context…always a good thing.

    It’s interesting that Pete Caldera took the Yankees to task in his blog for not revealing that Alex had had an MRI…..and worse still, now having to pull him from the WBC to fly to Colorado for a hip exam. Per Kat O’Brien, this hip “injury” has been on-going since last year. I don’t know if I should be more annoyed or frustrated.

  134. Steve M March 3rd, 2009 at 11:59 pm

    Keith, reading this blog can sure be hilarious sometimes. I just have to remind myself that everybody on here thinks they are the smartest baseball minds in the world. A lot of them take the easy way out by thinking that coveting the next best prospect makes them an expert. In the last three days, the following has been seriously discussed on here:

    - Brett Gardner = Mature Jose Reyes
    - Derek Jeter should be traded as he is a liability
    - Wang (a proven all-star) must be traded to make room for prospects that only if every single thing goes perfect can be only half as good as Wang has proven to be.
    - Brett Gardner means more to the Yankees than Mark Teixiera

    And my personal favorite:

    - The Yankees should eat A-Rod’s 280M contract and release him.

    So just smile and laugh. It’s still a great place to talk Yankees otherwise.

  135. GreenBeret7 March 3rd, 2009 at 11:59 pm

    m
    March 3rd, 2009 at 11:47 pm
    GB7,

    Oh, I’m sure Damon will just laugh. He’ll say, “That’s just Alex being Alex.”

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    Damon doesn’t appear to read much into what people say. I’m sure Damon will tease Rodriguez about it, especially if the media keep harping on crap.

    Years ago, “The Knights Of The Keyboards” like Dick Young, Henry Hecht and Jimmy Cannon tried pushing rumors about Mantle and Maris disliking each other (almost hating each other). Maris tried to explain that it wasn’t so, and Mantle told him to ignore it, but, Maris had rabbit ears and the media pushed it so hard that the fans bought it, hook, line and sinker. That was the real start to the Maris hatred. The fact was, Mantle and Maris shared a house during the season, and Mantle teased Maris about reading in the papers that they were fighting again. The players basically froze those three out of interviews. The same thing will happen here if they’re not careful. The NY media all appear to have gone to the “Dave Egan, Dick Young, Jimmy Cannon School Of Journalism”.

  136. Brandon Witnessed Dwayne Wade pull an MJ March 4th, 2009 at 12:00 am

    Betsy don’t take the press saying he won’t be in the WBC so serious, he most likely will, they are speculating right now.

  137. Wilson March 4th, 2009 at 12:01 am

    I agree with Phil— JR cannot wait till the end of March to make a deal because he needs to deal from a position of strength. Right now, there seems to be some momentum so hopefully JR can build on it.

    Get Braylon in the world and you can always decide what to do with Burress later. The best thing would be to keep him if hey can afford it. That would be the best WR tandem in the league right there, and with our defense, we will have a SICK team.

  138. Clyde March 4th, 2009 at 12:03 am

    Curry is right— A-Rod made a dumb statement. Just another in a series of dumb statements.

    It was not malicious, it was just dumb.

  139. bodhisattva March 4th, 2009 at 12:03 am

    dave
    March 3rd, 2009 at 11:52 pm
    the only problem is that trading guys like nady or swish does very little to overcome the extra 25 mil that manny will add and neither of them are really part of the LF/DH only crowd or should I say the geriatric crowd? I would wait until matsui and posada are no longer clogging the dh spot and then, take my chances with a guy like manny. The thing that i dont like though is signing a guy to dh when it is the best place to hide the defensive atrocities of the aging player.
    And with tex settled at first, I just wonder where posada will be playing next season and where jeter will be playing in a few years? If we sign manny now for two seasons, we will be forced to cross our fingers and pray that posada remains healthy for 2 more years. Then, a guy like montero cannot be our major league catcher for two more years at the minimum. I just dont like the idea- it creates alot of problems in the future. Id rather spend that money on a younger player who can actual field a position.

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    If we had signed Manny – and clearly, we’re not doing that – I would have proposed a two year deal. You can rotate Manny in and out of DH and RF – where he played in Cleveland – and not suffer too much.

    Manny is not really a terrible fielder, but he is somewhat of a reluctant one. His raison d’etre is hitting, hitting, hitting; it’s like breathing for him, which is why I have to laugh when people say you risk him “quitting” on us.

    The completely transcendent affect on the lineup would justify the less-than-stellar fielding we’d get from him. We’ve had awful outfields for years, now, and none that gave us a bat like Manny’s. Plus, with Gardner/Melky in CF and the loser of that battle on the bench, we have late inning replacement abilities in LF & CF that could help carry a not-so-brilliant RF.

    The trades of those COFs wouldn’t amount to 25 million, but there would have been ways to ameliorate the inpact on payroll, like an unconventional, backloaded deal. Manny would have accepted such a deal from us, just not from the Dodgers, as long as he eventually had gotten his money. Manny wanted very much to be a Yankee, and he absolutely would have “compromised.”

    Pity. A lost opportunity.

  140. Yanky Hanky March 4th, 2009 at 12:04 am

    Reyes grounded into 9 Double plays last year, out of 688 ABs

    Jeter grounded into 24 double plays last year, out of 596 ABs

  141. Betsy March 4th, 2009 at 12:04 am

    Brandon, I just want A-Rod to be ok -I’m not concerned about the WBC. I’m going to think positive, though I don’t understand why this wasn’t taken care of earlier.

  142. Steve M March 4th, 2009 at 12:06 am

    “Reyes grounded into 9 Double plays last year, out of 688 ABs

    Jeter grounded into 24 double plays last year, out of 596 ABs”

    Reyes batted leadoff in the National League. Leading off the game and having the pitcher bat before you is a hard way to gGIDP when nobody is ever on base for you.

  143. Almonte March 4th, 2009 at 12:06 am

    This is all cover-up… they don’t want him playing in the WBC so they are making this more than it is.

    As Pete said, if he was so bad, why did he play on Sunday? Why did he play today?

  144. Yanky Hanky March 4th, 2009 at 12:08 am

    As Pete said, if he was so bad, why did he play on Sunday? Why did he play today?
    ***********************

    His Karballah ran out ;)

  145. GreenBeret7 March 4th, 2009 at 12:11 am

    What the cyst may/certainly do is curtail Rodriguez’ base running. Sliding on that hip after hitting the ground will not help healing an open wound. Intelligent base running/base stealing skills are big parts of his game and is what makes him different than most sluggers. As long as there is no infection and the wound stays closed, it’s doubtful that it will affect his hitting much, if any, at all.

  146. Yanky Hanky March 4th, 2009 at 12:13 am

    Steve M

    Polanco batting in the 2nd spot hit into 14 DPs in 580 ABs

  147. Freddy K March 4th, 2009 at 12:14 am

    Dunn looked very good. He got these all-stars to swing and miss at quite a few of his pitches. Not bad for a guy who hasn’t pitched above A-ball.

  148. bodhisattva March 4th, 2009 at 12:15 am

    dave
    March 3rd, 2009 at 11:55 pm
    And 25 mil for a bat and no defensive capabilities to speak of with a 15 million dollar dh already on hand just sounds like a bad idea at the moment IMO. I know manny would be awesome in our lineup but its like trying to fit a square peg into a round hole – the pieces just dont fit right now. Next year, if posada catches all of this season, I think we could take on manny. In two years, with both matsui and posada likely retired, we can certainly take on a guy like that but not now.

    XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX

    The pieces would find their way into an acceptable pattern.

    I’m reminded of the time reporters asked Central Army hockey head coach Boris Mixhailov if the young Mario Lemieux could adapt to the Soviet style of play ( a short-pass, tactical retreat system that Brooks’ Rangers of the early 80s attempted to approximate with some success).

    The great Soviet coach had just seen Lemieux for the first time:

    “Comrades,” he said with a smile. “It is WE who would have to adapt to HIM.”

    Manny next season might not be the player he is now. He’s lost nothing, but he will be 37 next year, and he will have played an entire season without any DH relief. One thing Manny has done exceedingly well throughout his career is conserve his energy. Great players always seem to know how to do this. But he’ll be challenged playing a whole year in the NL.

    This is another reason why Manny would have been much more open to cutting some sort of deal with us. Playing in the AL gives him longevity, which gives him further earning power.

    What’s inexcusable is that Cashman and what must be a legion of accountants could have done some clever book keeping, some back loading, and some player dispatching. But it seems as though they didn’t even kick the tires here. That is so not to be applauded. That is inexcusable.

  149. Steve M March 4th, 2009 at 12:15 am

    Hanky – I may have missed your earlier point if it wasn’t comparing Reyes to Jeter, but what is your argument? That Jeter has more GIDP then a second baseman from Detroit now?

  150. Jerzz March 4th, 2009 at 12:16 am

    Maybe thats why Girardi batted Tex 3rd and not A-Rod… he didn’t want him to think about stealing and aggravating that hip. So maybe the Yankees knew about this injury and didn’t reveal anything…..

  151. Curtis March 4th, 2009 at 12:17 am

    Gardner can be Reyes without the power and diva-attitude.

  152. Uncle Ellsworth March 4th, 2009 at 12:19 am

    we know Jeter grounds into a lot of DPS – Thanks for the newsflash.
    The Yankees have been alerted and he will be traded immediatly.

  153. Steve M March 4th, 2009 at 12:22 am

    Curtis – How could you possibly say that? Because they have similar speed? Oh it just keeps getting better here.

  154. pat March 4th, 2009 at 12:24 am

    Sometimes being the punchline to a joke doesn’t turn out to be all that funny.

    http://weblogs.newsday.com/spo.....o_was.html

  155. Steve M March 4th, 2009 at 12:25 am

    Also, I have to say, regardless of the odd opinions of many here, I am shocked to see so many (even if only a few) with such Jeter distaste. It baffles me. The guy still gits .300 EVERY YEAR and produces when it counts. He hustles on every single play, does all the right things, says all the right things, and is the iconic Yankee of our generation.

    Yet every hack here that skimmed through Moneyball last night would have you believe he is Griffey-bad now.

  156. pat March 4th, 2009 at 12:28 am

    A-Rod was talking about speed not about Jeter or Damon.

    “I wish he was leading off on our team, playing on our team,” Rodriguez said of Reyes, who hustled to take an extra base in the fifth inning, then stole third and scored in the Dominican team’s 10-1 win over the Marlins.

    “That’s fun to watch. Anytime you have that type of speed … I mean, we have a guy in Gardner that’ll be fun.

  157. GreenBeret7 March 4th, 2009 at 12:32 am

    pat
    March 4th, 2009 at 12:28 am
    A-Rod was talking about speed not about Jeter or Damon.

    “I wish he was leading off on our team, playing on our team,” Rodriguez said of Reyes, who hustled to take an extra base in the fifth inning, then stole third and scored in the Dominican team’s 10-1 win over the Marlins.

    “That’s fun to watch. Anytime you have that type of speed … I mean, we have a guy in Gardner that’ll be fun.

    ————————————————————

    Yes, but, that’s boring stuff and doesn’t sell papers or get blog hits.

  158. pat March 4th, 2009 at 12:34 am

    Sorry GB

    Didn’t mean to ruin the fun by showing the rest of the quote. :smile:

  159. rodg12 March 4th, 2009 at 12:36 am

    So Pete took the quote totally out of context to bash ARod? Shocking!

  160. GreenBeret7 March 4th, 2009 at 12:50 am

    pat
    March 4th, 2009 at 12:34 am
    Sorry GB

    Didn’t mean to ruin the fun by showing the rest of the quote.

    ————————————————————

    That stuff is common fare around here any time things get slow.

    The article you linked about John Odom is sad. Hate to see youth wasted, regardless of the reason. It’s a tragedy for his family.

    It makes the Josh Hamilton story the mirror image of the Odom story. Similar, but opposite. I still don’t see Hamilton as a hero who overcame adversity, but, doesn’t mean I’m sorry that he turned it around. A hero/enlightening tory is RA Dickey, who’s pitching in the majors despite being born without an Ulner Collateral Ligament in his pitching elbow/forearm (Tommy John Surgery when it’s torn).

  161. Yanky Hanky March 4th, 2009 at 1:00 am

    I am shocked to see so many (even if only a few) with such Jeter distaste.
    *****************************************

    http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/ru.....=mlb,89331

    Jeter is overrated.

  162. pat March 4th, 2009 at 1:03 am

    GB
    To me it was a sad commentary on viewing players as “assets”- something Cashman has been guilty of. They may be assets but first and foremost they are human.

  163. MJR (Shut UP Steve Phillips) March 4th, 2009 at 4:50 am

    “He was impressive,” Jorge Posada said. “Everything I saw, I liked.”

    ^^
    That’s all that matters.

    Could this be the year Phil Franchise emerges?

  164. rbj March 4th, 2009 at 8:46 am

    Good stuff, thanks Peter. Sounds like Phil could be the sixth starter, and number 5/4 next year.

  165. lordbyron March 4th, 2009 at 11:44 am

    Good post – from my perspective, Hughes continues to work through challenges and is improving. He’ll emerge shortly as an impact player and the Yankeees will be rewarded for their patience.

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