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Predicting the roster: Version 1

Posted by: Peter Abraham - Posted in Misc on Mar 05, 2009 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

I’m holding off on posting the lineups for today’s game against Team Canada. Given the state of the lineup these days, it will hold.

Meanwhile, here’s the first attempt of the spring at guessing the Opening Day roster:

Lineup
Damon LF
Jeter SS
Teixeira 1B
Rodriguez 3B
Matsui DH
Posada C
Cano 2B
Swisher RF
Gardner CF

Bench
Nady OF
Molina C
Ransom INF
Cabrera OF

Rotation
Sabathia
Wang
Burnett
Pettitte
Chamberlain

Bullpen
Rivera
Marte
Bruney
Aceves
Coke
Veras
Robertson

Explanation: I think Edwar Ramirez has fallen behind too much and won’t be ready by April 6. … There’s a 50-50 shot Matsui isn’t ready. … If Posada is not able to catch regularly, they could keep Kevin Cash as a third catcher. … I’m not sold on the idea of keeping both Gardner and Cabrera. But Cabrera is out of options, so maybe they would keep him if he doesn’t win the job. Ransom can play 2B, SS and 3B. Swisher can play 1B, as can Nady, so that covers the infield. But this team probably needs an extra middle infielder more than an extra outfielder.

I’m not sold on Aceves quite yet as the long reliever. But Jason Johnson won’t be ready and Brett Tomko may be a reach. Giese has a shot. I can’t see them using Hughes or Kennedy in that role. It would be a waste.

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98 Responses to “Predicting the roster: Version 1”

  1. will March 5th, 2009 at 8:02 am

    melancon?

  2. tom March 5th, 2009 at 8:03 am

    swisher over nady?

  3. Vincent March 5th, 2009 at 8:05 am

    I really think the Yanks just need to cut ties with Melky. He has a good arm and thats about it. I think we’ve seen the best we will see out of him. Gardner is the type of player that absolutely kills the Yankees and it would be nice to actually have someone like that on the team.

    I like the lineup you have there but I think Nady wins that starting spot even though I’d rather see Swish.

  4. able 21 March 5th, 2009 at 8:13 am

    I agree with Tom and Vincent. I don’t see Nady losing out the starting spot.

  5. able 21 March 5th, 2009 at 8:14 am

    As impressive as Melancon has been, I think he’ll be a mid to late season addition.

  6. Steve B March 5th, 2009 at 8:16 am

    Hope to see Giese and Albaladejo over Aceves and Robertson. I just think they’re better.

    Swisher over Nady, eh? I think ultimately that works out to be a platoon of sorts, with Swisher getting the majority of the AB’s.

  7. wallypip March 5th, 2009 at 8:19 am

    I completely agree, Pete. Just a few points, though.

    Why is there so little love for Albaladejo? I know he has had some health issues, but I think he has as good of a chance as the other guys. Are the Yankees considering keeping Aceves as a starter if the ball bounces that way? A strong AAA rotation eliminates the need for a spot starter on the 25 man roster. I think the Yankees should just go with the hottest pitchers in the pen and not worry about their roles.

    I think the Yankees would be smart to keep Melky as the 25th man if he does not win the CF job. Melky’s future is likely as a fourth outfielder anyway, so if he can mature as a professional bench player he could be an asset to the team in the future. BTW, I think we’ll see a Damon/Nady/Swisher outfield more often than the Yankees are letting on if Gardner or Melky do not impress early.

  8. Chien - Ming Vase March 5th, 2009 at 8:20 am

    swisher is much better than nady, the only reason they are saying nady is the RF is because he is the incumbent. there will be plenty of playing time for both but swisher is the better RFer

  9. Steve B March 5th, 2009 at 8:23 am

    “swisher is much better than nady”

    Not much evidence to support this declaration. Both are slightly above average outfielders with obvious strengths and weaknesses.

  10. Al March 5th, 2009 at 8:24 am

    Pete, is putting Swisher in over Nady the way YOU would do it, or the way you think Joe is going to do it? Because I would prefer Swish, but it sure seems like it’s Nady’s job to lose.

  11. Brandon W March 5th, 2009 at 8:24 am

    I like Swisher, and I think his on-base ability would benefit the Yankees more than Nady, but I have a feeling Nady will be the opening day RF. Hopefully he can put up some good numbers in his contract year. Also, even if Posada can’t catch every day come opening day, I don’t see a pressing need to carry three catchers (unless Posada can’t catch at all). Cash’s bat isn’t any better than Molina’s, and Molina designed his offseason prep around the possibility of having to be an everyday catcher for awhile. I don’t think carrying a third catcher would benefit the roster much… I do agree that we could use another decent middle infielder for the bench though

  12. able 21 March 5th, 2009 at 8:25 am

    Anyone have an interest in signing Terrell Owens to shag flies in right field. I hear he’s available.

  13. NYYfan22 March 5th, 2009 at 8:27 am

    Does anyone sense that Pettitte feels a lil slighted at being #4? Just curious.

  14. Chien - Ming Vase March 5th, 2009 at 8:27 am

    well, u could go here:
    http://www.drivelinemechanics......n-battle-y

  15. Ryan March 5th, 2009 at 8:30 am

    Nady had career season last year, he’s earned RF. Swisher has to bounce back before starting again.

  16. Ryan March 5th, 2009 at 8:31 am

    career year last season* maybe

  17. Steve B March 5th, 2009 at 8:31 am

    “Does anyone sense that Pettitte feels a lil slighted at being #4? Just curious.”

    No reason why he should. In the end, who’s #1 and who’s #4 loses meaning pretty early on. Whoever’s pitching that day is #1.

  18. Betsy March 5th, 2009 at 8:32 am

    From the prior thread – it’s very puzzling why the Yankees did not take care of this last year (stupid, actually).

    I hope Swish is the RF, but for some reason the Yankees like Nady better and he will be the starter. Swish is going to be reduced to playing when Damon/Nady have days off, someone is injured, etc………. That sucks -and it’s a waste of his ability. I also dislike the idea of Swish rotating through the OF – I think he (like most players) should have one set position as there is something to be said for consistency.

    It would be stupid for Melky to be the CF if Gardner truly performs better in ST. No team should ever choose a player based on something silly as whether he has an option or not – the best choice is the best player, period. Melky is not Mickey Mantle – if he doesn’t clear waivers, so be it. If he ends up sucking the first month of the season and Gardner has to be brought up, then Melky will end up on waivers anyway………..

    I like Robertson, but I don’t think he’s quite ready for the big show. I’m a fan of Albaladejo and hope he makes the team – he’s verstatile and solid.

  19. jennifer March 5th, 2009 at 8:36 am

    I heard on 1050 espn radio that Alex will have the cyst either drained or removed. They diagnosed him with some sort of arthritis (don’t recall the name). They said it was repetitive motion. I’ll see if I can find an article online.

  20. Betsy March 5th, 2009 at 8:37 am

    http://njmg.typepad.com/yankeesblog/

    Matsui is in the lineup – that’s a sight for sore eyes.

  21. Ryan March 5th, 2009 at 8:37 am

    Giese seems like he’ll step up for the long spot.

  22. Betsy March 5th, 2009 at 8:38 am

    Arthritis? Oh, just terrific…….that’s bad news.

  23. Chien - Ming Vase March 5th, 2009 at 8:39 am

    the yankees need melky. a good ST for gardner is nice, but it is ST. if gardner in the RS repeats his .228/.283/.299 from last year, then even melky’s .249/.301/.341 will look good.

    giving gardner a chance to prove he belongs is great, but so far there is no indication that he will be an upgrade from melky.

    melky is a given, we know pretty much what to expect from him, nothing great. but gardner has to prove he can do better in the RS before you let melky go

  24. Tom March 5th, 2009 at 8:39 am

    It sounds like osteoarthritis.

  25. Chris for NJ March 5th, 2009 at 8:41 am

    After watching Gardener play in spring training, i’m becoming quite a fan. I think he will be able to make the adjustment to major league pitching, and his speed is a lot of fun to watch. He eats up so much territory in center field, he is going to prevent a lot of runs for us playing ever day.

    I think it is going to be interesting to see who gets the bulk of RF playing time. Truth be told, I don’t know if Matsui can hold up for much longer, and the loser of the RF competition could get a lot of ABs at DH.

  26. Betsy March 5th, 2009 at 8:41 am

    Does this mean his career is in jeopardy? When I think of arthritis, I think of people in excruciating pain……

  27. SJ44 March 5th, 2009 at 8:43 am

    osteoarthritis isn’t bad news Betsy. Its actually the best case scenario in this situation. Plenty of players develop it as they get older due to wear and tear.

    You aren’t going to hold up this season if you view every injury in the most dire consequence imaginable.

    Guys get hurt. Its a fact of life. However, not every injury, such as this one, is serious, guys recover and move on.

  28. jennifer March 5th, 2009 at 8:44 am

    Betsy- Don’t know, but I can see how arthritis is anything but bad. Especially in someone so young. I can’t find an article online. So maybe what espn is reporting isn’t accurate.

  29. Pat March 5th, 2009 at 8:44 am

    I’m still not sold on Bruney as the 8th inning guy. They should have picked up Cruz, he would have been perfect for that role.

  30. SJ44 March 5th, 2009 at 8:45 am

    His career isn’t in jeopardy. He’s fine. He’s been playing with it for a year and hasn’t had any negative effects.

    There are guys on the team with hips in worst condition than Arod’s.

  31. jennifer March 5th, 2009 at 8:45 am

    SJ- But you have 9 years left on the deal. Is it a degenerative condition? Also have you heard anything? Is what espn said accurate?

  32. Steve B March 5th, 2009 at 8:46 am

    “Does this mean his career is in jeopardy? When I think of arthritis, I think of people in excruciating pain……”

    He supposedly dealt with it some last year and did fine. Early returns from ST have looked pretty good. I’d wonder more about his long term prognosis, given the length of his contract.

  33. Mattchu12 March 5th, 2009 at 8:46 am

    I vote that we trade Xavier Nady and then sign Mark Grudzielanek.

    Use Grundy as the 2B/SS backup and Ransom as the 1B/3B backup. Yeah, Nady hits better than either Grundy or Ransom, but it’s a waste to use him off the bench because let’s face it, Swisher is better at all aspects of the game: Offense, Defense, and Clubhouse Personality.

    Platoon Melky and Gardner until one heats up over the other, and we’ll go like 70-30. I know that a lot of folks think we should dump the Melk man, but I think he will rebound and give Gardner a run for his money. Worse come to worse, he’s pretty cheap and isn’t a bad guy to have to pinch run in the late innings. Imagine you have Matsui or Posada on first, would you rather have Melky or Nady on the bench to pinch run? I’ll take that over few big flies Nady might chip in.

    But then again, I love the Melk Man. lol.

  34. SJ44 March 5th, 2009 at 8:48 am

    Why is Cruz better than Bruney for that role? Because he is a “name”?

    Bruney’s numbers last year, albeit it in a shorter timeframe, were better than Cruz’s.

    Just because someone is a “name”, doesn’t mean he is better than what you already have.

  35. SJ44 March 5th, 2009 at 8:51 am

    You can’t platoon Melky and Gardner because Melky’s right side is his weakest side of the plate.

    Trade Nady to sign a 40 year old backup infielder? Stick with fantasy baseball.

    If you trade Nady, its for position player help at the AA/AAA level.

    Right now, you keep him because Swisher hasn’t proven anything yet.

    Just because someone has a great sense of humor, it doesn’t mean they can hit.

    Why not keep the depth you have right now and see how it plays out?

    Nady had a bad last two weeks of the season. Until then, he was one of the Yankees best hitters in the clutch after they acquired him.

    He is a very solid player. I don’t see why you trade very solid players like Nady unless you get back something very good in return. If not, keep him, play him, and win with him.

  36. Trevor March 5th, 2009 at 8:54 am

    I like the projected roster. Only thing I would change is Melancon instead of Veras.

  37. SJ44 March 5th, 2009 at 8:56 am

    Jennifer,

    Every player has a “degenerative condition” of some sort. Its wear and tear on the body to play this game for a long time.

    In this instance, its about doing a series of stretching exercises to keep the area loose and allow blood to flow freely in it.

    Think of it as “preventive maintainence”.

    In this case, Alex has been playing with this and has looked great so far this spring.

    IMO, this is more about the Yankees looking for a way to get him out of playing in the WBC than it is any serious injury.

  38. Jay Hirsch March 5th, 2009 at 8:56 am

    Nady is a much better hitter than Swisher and they both are average outfielders at best. Melky had a bad year last year, he is still better and younger than Gardner.

  39. jennifer March 5th, 2009 at 8:58 am

    Will they be allowed to keep him out of the WBC?

  40. Chien - Ming Vase March 5th, 2009 at 9:01 am

    life is a degenerative condition.

  41. Ryan March 5th, 2009 at 9:01 am

    veras is nasty…he’ll be good this year

  42. Steve B March 5th, 2009 at 9:02 am

    “Bruney’s numbers last year, albeit it in a shorter timeframe, were better than Cruz’s.”

    Hoping this is the year that Bruney can put it all together. He was unhittable last year and his walk rate, while still lousy, improved considerably. I’m looking to see if he can give the Yankees real innings. I’m hoping for 70-75 innings of the ’08 Bruney this season.

  43. jennifer March 5th, 2009 at 9:03 am

    Maybe this is where espn got their info? It is only speculation.

    http://www.nypost.com/seven/03.....158054.htm

  44. Betsy March 5th, 2009 at 9:05 am

    Jen, I was just about mention that – unless ESPN sent a reporter out to CO, how would they have any info?

  45. CC Burneixeira March 5th, 2009 at 9:07 am

    Swisher’s plate approach and discipline fits in much better than Nady’s, especially if Gardner makes the team. These guys make pitchers throw a lot of pitches so they can have semi-productive at bats even when making outs.

    Plus, Swisher’s upside is much higher. If Swisher doesnt hit, you know you always have at least a .289 BA to go to with Nady.

  46. number 2 for prez March 5th, 2009 at 9:09 am

    “I like the projected roster. Only thing I would change is Melancon instead of Veras.”

    This is just a stupid comment….

  47. CC Burneixeira March 5th, 2009 at 9:09 am

    In my opinion, Bruney’s committment to excellent conditioning and weight loss has earned him a look for the 8th inning role.

    Plus, he’s got a huge chip on his shoulder for not making the WBC.

  48. Mattchu12 March 5th, 2009 at 9:09 am

    I didn’t say give Nady away, but I know that there are teams out there that will give something decent up for him. There’s a lot of teams out there that could use a .280, 20 HR, 80 RBI guy right now. I bet the Giants would love to get their hands on that.

    As for the Melky-Gardner platoon, I don’t have the stats to back this up, I’ve read that Gardner has done better against lefties anyways. I looked for the splits, but I can’t find any for the minor leagues.

  49. Betsy March 5th, 2009 at 9:10 am

    SJ, thanks! I’m not normally like this as far as injuries go, but lately I have been (based on bad luck the last couple of years). You’re right – I won’t hold up if I continue. I definitely understand that guys get injured, it’s just that “arthritis” sent up a red flag…..

  50. CC Burneixeira March 5th, 2009 at 9:12 am

    Melancon absolutley needs to start in the minors. There is really no urgency to rush him along, there are viable options in the bullpen.

    I’m concerned about Coke though. I thought they wanted to develop him as a starter, in which case, shouldn’t he be starting the in Scranton’s rotation.

    Also, I think I’d rather keep a bumb like Tomko on as the mop up guy and see what Aceves can do as a starter in Scranton.

  51. Hughes The Savior March 5th, 2009 at 9:16 am

    I had some osteoarthritis in my wrist from playing too much tennis, golf and softball. Its fro ma repetitive motion, and a little cyst/bubble comes up and it can be sore at times. The doctor numbed it up, cut it out, took like 4-5 stitches, and my wrist felt perfect a week later. If this is in indeed what A-Rod has, it is a non-issue and probably gets him out of playing in the WBC bc he will have to sit out like 3-5 days.

  52. Betsy March 5th, 2009 at 9:16 am

    I prefer Swish to Nady, but I love having both and I would not trade either one right now. Nady is still a guy that fits on a good team – he may not be a star, but he’s a solid player. Depth is good……I am surprised that Cash has not made a real move to strengthen his bench – I’m just not a fan of Cody Ransom.

    I agree that Brett Gardner has a lot to prove – a good start in ST is nice, but it doesn’t prove anything. That said, we already know what Melky can do – I’d like to see what Brett can do (I still think the Yankees should have traded Melky/Igawa for Cameron, though).

    SJ44, what do you think about the pen? I think Coke will make it, so with a long man (Geise/Aceves), it appears that one spot is up for grabs. Do you favor Alabadejo? Robertson? If so, why?

  53. Steve B March 5th, 2009 at 9:17 am

    “I’m concerned about Coke though. I thought they wanted to develop him as a starter, in which case, shouldn’t he be starting the in Scranton’s rotation.”

    Coke’s not exactly a kid. He’ll turn 27 this year. Not a lot of development time left. If the organization feels he best them as a lefty in the pen right now, and that’s what Girardi indicated about a week ago, then I’m cool with that. Not a lot of evidence to go on, but the little we’ve seen has been pretty good.

  54. Steve B March 5th, 2009 at 9:18 am

    …best SERVES them….

  55. LukeS March 5th, 2009 at 9:20 am

    The roster and your caveats are just about how I’d draw it up. I particularly like Robertson making it over Eddie Ramirez. Good job, Pete.

  56. Ryan March 5th, 2009 at 9:20 am

    Robertson > Albaladejo

  57. Yankee2123 March 5th, 2009 at 9:20 am

    I just like to have options coming off of the bench. If Girardi has to do some shuffling in the outfield, so be it. I think unless Nady has a bad spring he starts in RF. There will be playing time for Swisher. I think Melky is the odd man out in this situation.

  58. CC Burneixeira March 5th, 2009 at 9:20 am

    What happens if Hughes finally emerges this year and looks ready by the All-star break? Will the Yanks just wait till next year when Andy’s gone?

  59. CC Burneixeira March 5th, 2009 at 9:20 am

    What happens if Hughes finally emerges this year and looks ready by the All-star break? Will the Yanks just wait till next year when Andy’s gone?

  60. John in Ohio March 5th, 2009 at 9:21 am

    I like Bruney’s attitude, and his fastball (not necessarily in that order). I’m looking for a big year out of him. That goofy foot injury held him back last year, and he’s now ready to go.

    I also suspect that by mid-year Nady and/or Melky will be in other organizations.

  61. Yankee2123 March 5th, 2009 at 9:22 am

    I don’t like Edwar, he can be very hittable. I like everyone, except Igawa, over Edwar.

  62. Yankee2123 March 5th, 2009 at 9:24 am

    CC

    I think Hughes gets another full year at AAA. He needs to have a solid year, and work on his mechanics. If he’s driven enough, he’ll be up next year in the 5th spot.

  63. Steve B March 5th, 2009 at 9:26 am

    “What happens if Hughes finally emerges this year and looks ready by the All-star break? Will the Yanks just wait till next year when Andy’s gone?”

    There’s not much reason to expect that the Yankees won’t need a 6th and 7th starter over the course of the year. I’d imagine Hughes is going to be one of those guys. But barring serious injury to one of the front 5, he probably steps in on a full time basis next year when Pettitte is gone.

  64. CC Burneixeira March 5th, 2009 at 9:34 am

    Why in the hell are all spring training games not on YES or mlb.com. It just boggles my mind that I cannot watch the game today.

  65. YankFanDave March 5th, 2009 at 9:44 am

    Both Melky and Gardner will likely break camp with the team, Gardner because he is on his way to winning the starting CF spot and Melky because he has no more options and they need him as insurance for the inexperienced Gardner.

    Coke is my pick as the long man in the bullpen, he can be a spot starter and the second lefty as well. Melancon has looked good and has a real chance to make the team also especially with Edwar’s situation.

  66. B Riley March 5th, 2009 at 9:49 am

    Completely agree that the Yankees need a middle infielder more than have Melky on the bench…Since Melky is out of options, I think they ought to try and deal him to the Braves along with a propspect to get Martin Prado…He can play every infield position and Ransom then goes back to AAA

  67. Noreaster March 5th, 2009 at 9:49 am

    I love the lineup, Swisher over Nady really improves the defense. On that note, how does our defense stack up. SI quoted a scout saying we were “brutal”. I might be a homer, but I don’t see that. Damon, Gardner, Swisher can all go get the ball above average. On the infield Posada has always had problems catching the ball and blocking the plate and Jeter has lost a step but are they really that bad to pull down the rest of the infield defense?

  68. Scott47 March 5th, 2009 at 10:07 am

    Boy lots of good comments, I agree with Pete on his line up including Swish over Nady. Not that Swish is that much better but RAB posted some analysis on the both of them, Matsui, Damon, Abreu and Manny. Swisher was the 2nd best overall of the six of them.

    I posted in another blog about Melky. I like him and I think he has some good years ahead of him when he finally matures. That being said, you probably won’t see that happen in pinstripes. I see him getting let go or traded by the end of this season.

    As for Gardner, Chien Ming Vase, take a look at his September numbers, not his overall numbers from last year. Plus the spring he is having. He struggled when he first came up but by his own admission he was a litte overwhelmed and in awe of the experience.

    Plus Brett has shown at every level, going back to his college days, that it takes him a year to adjust to each level he reaches. When he makes the adjustments, he has averaged .280 and .300+ OBP. I will take that over Melky.

    I like Bruney and think he is the best candidate for now, until mid-season when/if Melancon comes up, then I think he stays there until Mo retires.

  69. saucY March 5th, 2009 at 10:38 am

    no time to read comments. but i agree with your line-up Pete, 100%

    and i like the idea of having both Gardner and Cabrera up.

  70. Dan L in nj March 5th, 2009 at 10:51 am

    Please platoon Damon, Nady and Swisher to take advantage of left/right splits. All of them Damon, Nady Swisher and Matsui should get around 525 pa to keep them all fresh.

    Jeter should lead off because it will be easier to platoon Damon from the 2 hole then lead off.

    No Melky on this team as he sucks! The league knows how to pitch him and I doubt that is going to change unless he gets a full year in AAA. DFA him and if he gets claimed so be it.

    The 25th spot should be for getting both Miranda and Cervelli experience on a rotational basis. Miranda had a .970 ops against right handed pitching so hopefully the Yankees find out if he can at least hit right handed pitchers well enough to become half of a dh platoon in 2010. Cervelli needs sometime to see how he handles things with an eye to him being the backup backstop in 2010.

  71. bottom line March 5th, 2009 at 10:52 am

    “But this team probably needs an extra middle infielder more than an extra outfielder.”

    Thank you, Peter. I’ve been making this point for months. Absolutely insane and irresponsible that here is nobody of consequence to back up Cano A-Rod And Jeter. And as I’ve said many times, this should not be seen as “utility infielder” issue. They need a genuine major league back-up and bench contriubtor who can fill in for more than a day. For months, I have been dreading the prospect of seeing Berroa and Ransom playing together when two guys go down.

  72. Artie A March 5th, 2009 at 11:03 am

    Swisher gives us more speed than Nady. So I like that much better, but if he he doesn’t hit thenthe fix is easy go to Nady. Speed at the top and botom of this lineup is very key and will keep opposing pitchers worried if they get on base.
    This means more fastballs thrown to the key sluggers. Only good come from that. Much more speed in the outfield with Swisher. Posada’s ability to throw is the key. Makes the whole line-up work. Yanks are deep with bullpen this year and can mix and match. If any of the relievers can’t get going there is somebody around to replace them on the 40 man roster. I still have faith in Edwar…when he is on with his sinker he is tough to hit. I like the line-up which Pete has put togther. Key now is helath and A-Rod needs to get past tis hip thing. No WBC for him now.

  73. AK March 5th, 2009 at 11:20 am

    So what are everyone’s thoughts now that ESPN is reporting AROD will be out for 10 weeks for hip surgery…

  74. tishbi March 5th, 2009 at 11:22 am

    Melky would be a good late inning replacement in RF, considering that all of the arms in the outfield are below average. If Melky comes up to hit that wouldnt be the worst thing. I think that Melky has his best AB’s agaimst the oppsing teams relievers, in the late innings, sort of like a couple of days ago against Lindstrom. (I cant forget the great AB he had against Billy Wagner a couple of years ago when the Mets had a 4-0 lead in the 9th. Melky had no chance to hit Wagner’s overpowering fastball, but he just kept fouling off pitch after pitch until he worked out a walk fueling the comeback.

    But, I think the Melky discussion is mute because the Yankees will definetley carry 3 catchers. Posada had major arm surgery and is 36. If Posada catches 100 games we would be really lucky.

    The Swisher/Nady dynamic will be a problem all sesson long. The player who losses the starting role wont be happy. The best thing would be to trade one of them. They are almost identical players. Swish is a little better in the OBP department and Nady is better in BA. Nady has the advantage of having played half a season in NY and he has played for the Mets at high level too. Swisher seems to have the more consistent power numbers; Swish’s power has always been there wheris Nady only developed his power late in his carrer.

    I think if Albaldajo is healthy and has a good spring he makes the team over Aceves. Albaldajo has the sinking sliding stuff to be a stop gap/long man, sort of a modern day Ramiro Mendoza. I was very impressed by him last year until he got hurt. He seemed to have the ability to calm down a game and give the offense a chance to comeback. I wasnt that impressed with Aceves, his stuff looked very average. He did well as a September callup, but these numbers, as we all know, have to be taken with a grain of salt. Everybody likes the Cinderella story, but there must be a good reason Aceves has toilled his whole carrer in the indy league.

    I think Robertson will start the season in th BP, but as soon as he falters Melancon will get the call.

  75. RER - 98 March 5th, 2009 at 11:34 am

    This team has flexability it hasn’t seen in a few years. It was players like Giambi and Abreu that made it a stagnent roster.
    The pitching has innings eaters to keep the bullpen from being overworked but Girardi seems to have a handle on that.

  76. Old(Brittany doesn't wear panties!!!)YanksFan March 5th, 2009 at 11:42 am

    Some thoughts:
    Career OPS+: Nady 108 – Swisher 112
    EXcluding 08: Nady 101 – Swisher 118
    Also: every defensive metric has Swisher as a FAR better defensive player. And even with Nady’s (career year) 2008 and Swisher’s horrible 2008, Swisher’s career OBP is 19 points higher. Lastly, Nady’s career numbers were gathered in the NL West and NL Central, the 2 weekest divisions in MLB.

    It’s a relatively SSS, but in 228 ABs for the Yankees, Nady posted a 105 OPS+. For comparison, JD has a 111 OPS+ in his Yankee career, MUCH better speed and better defense.

    There is really NO comparison between XMan and Swisher. And while I know the ladies here really like XMan’s package, up until last year, considering defense, Nady was a BELOW AVERAGE player (101 OPS+ and poor D.. for an OFer!)

    Frankly, if Melky can get back to his rookie year 95 OPS+, considering his arm, defense and speed, he may be as valuable as XMan. Of course, this assumes XMan’s 1/2 year in 2008 with the Pirates was an aberation, and his career 101 OPS+ is closer to what we can expect.

  77. Old(Brittany doesn't wear panties!!!)YanksFan March 5th, 2009 at 11:42 am

    Some thoughts:
    Career OPS+: Nady 108 – Swisher 112
    EXcluding 08: Nady 101 – Swisher 118
    Also: every defensive metric has Swisher as a FAR better defensive player. And even with Nady’s (career year) 2008 and Swisher’s horrible 2008, Swisher’s career OBP is 19 points higher. Lastly, Nady’s career numbers were gathered in the NL West and NL Central, the 2 weekest divisions in MLB.

    It’s a relatively SSS, but in 228 ABs for the Yankees, Nady posted a 105 OPS+. For comparison, JD has a 111 OPS+ in his Yankee career, MUCH better speed and better defense.

    There is really NO comparison between XMan and Swisher. And while I know the ladies here really like XMan’s package, up until last year, considering defense, Nady was a BELOW AVERAGE player (101 OPS+ and poor D.. for an OFer!)

    Frankly, if Melky can get back to his rookie year 95 OPS+, considering his arm, defense and speed, he may be as valuable as XMan. Of course, this assumes XMan’s 1/2 year in 2008 with the Pirates was an aberation, and his career 101 OPS+ is closer to what we can expect.

  78. dan l March 5th, 2009 at 11:47 am

    Melky sucks because he is not mentally in games all the time. He needs a year in AAA.

  79. 86w183 March 5th, 2009 at 12:16 pm

    I have never believed that you have to have a “long man”. I think what you need is two or three releivers who can give you 2-3 innings at a time. Melancon and Coke can do that. Veras maybe.

    If the ARod report is accurate they have to get someone for the first month or so of the season. Since it’s just a stop gap I would prefer Ray Durham (who’s never played 3B) because he can really hit and costs nothing in prospects.
    Bill Hall wouldn’t be bad because he can play any OF position too, but he has two more years on his contract and that would be complicated.

    It also makes it more likely that Damon starts about half the time in CF to upgrade the offense. If Matsui and Posada were important before their comebacks are absolutely critical now.

    CF Damon
    SS Jeter
    2B Cano
    1B Teixiera
    DH Matsui
    C Posada
    RF Nady
    LF Swisher
    3B Durham

    I’ve seen worse

  80. Scooter10 March 5th, 2009 at 12:22 pm

    If Posada can’t catch in April, they’ll need to add Cash to the 40-man roster. Unless someone goes on the 60day DL, then Giese could be the odd man out.

    So, I’m thinking we carry 3 catchers and 6 relievers. And Giese would have to pass waivers and accept an assignment to Scranton.

    Haven’t seen any grounded Arod articles. Who plays 3B if he’s out? Ransom? Too bad E.Duncan hasn’t materialized.

  81. bg90027 March 5th, 2009 at 12:45 pm

    If you assume that they keep 12 pitchers, then this guess is as good as mine. I’m also a fan of Albaladejo though and might pick him over Robertson. I do agree with Pete that Gardner and Melky probably both make the team.

    I’m not sure that they need 7 guys out of the bullpen though with this rotation like they needed them when they had Hughes, Kennedy, Ponson, Rasner, etc getting a lot of starts. I could see them keep 6 relievers (no Robertson, Ramierez or Albaladejo) and give the extra spot to Kevin Cash or a middle infielder (Berroa I guess). I’ve also wondered whether they might trade Juan Miranda now that he’s blocked by both Tex and Swish and give his 40 man spot to Shelley Duncan.

  82. bg90027 March 5th, 2009 at 12:51 pm

    “I have never believed that you have to have a “long man”. I think what you need is two or three releivers who can give you 2-3 innings at a time. Melancon and Coke can do that. Veras maybe.”

    I disagree. I think its important and is something that’s been missing on this team for years, mainly for the swing starter aspect. We ought to have a guy in the bullpen who can make an emergency start and give at least 4-5 innings so we can stop doing the scranston – new york shuttle every time someone has to miss a start. Bring Hughes up if a guy is injured and is going to miss significant time but don’t bring him up for an emergency start.

  83. Jeterboy March 5th, 2009 at 1:06 pm

    The idea of a long reliever is supid.. get rid of Aceves.. put Melancon in there.

  84. Mikey March 5th, 2009 at 1:09 pm

    I’d take Nady over Swisher personally. I know Swisher is a moneyball guy but having seen alot of the two of them in person, I think Nady has more upside/talent. Study your numbers all you want, but with 2 runners on and 2 out at Fenway or the Trop who would you rather have at the plate? I just dont think Swisher has the make up to deliver in big spots.

  85. Old(Brittany doesn't wear panties!!!)YanksFan March 5th, 2009 at 2:36 pm

    Well Mikey… I hate to quote stats, since after all, they are only a history of a players past performance. And just in case, when you saw the 2 of them in person, you missed a game or 2, I took a look at the ‘stats.

    With 1 & 3rd, 2 outs AND 2 & 3rd. 2 outs:
    X-Man: .820 OPS
    Swish: .870 OPS

    In a larger sample size… using MEN ON:
    X-Man: .758 OPS
    Swish: .809 OPS

    And RISP:
    X-Man: .752 OPS
    Swish: .789 OPS

    And RISP w/2 outs
    X-Man: .795 OPS
    Swish: .824 OPS

    The reason we have stats is because there are always guys like you, who AT BEST, have seen 20% of a players ABs, can not remember 90% of what they’ve seen, reach conclusions based on personal preference, and then totally misstate the facts.

  86. should be working March 5th, 2009 at 2:58 pm

    its obviously too early, but i dont see why Hughes shouldnt at least have a shot at the #5 spot if joba hasnt got it together by 4/5.

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