Comments on: Predicting the roster: Version 1

By: should be working

should be working — Thu, 05 Mar 2009 19:58:24 +0000

its obviously too early, but i dont see why Hughes shouldnt at least have a shot at the #5 spot if joba hasnt got it together by 4/5.

By: Old(Brittany doesn't wear panties!!!)YanksFan

Old(Brittany doesn't wear panties!!!)YanksFan — Thu, 05 Mar 2009 19:36:57 +0000

Well Mikey… I hate to quote stats, since after all, they are only a history of a players past performance. And just in case, when you saw the 2 of them in person, you missed a game or 2, I took a look at the ’stats.

With 1 & 3rd, 2 outs AND 2 & 3rd. 2 outs:
X-Man: .820 OPS
Swish: .870 OPS

In a larger sample size… using MEN ON:
X-Man: .758 OPS
Swish: .809 OPS

And RISP:
X-Man: .752 OPS
Swish: .789 OPS

And RISP w/2 outs
X-Man: .795 OPS
Swish: .824 OPS

The reason we have stats is because there are always guys like you, who AT BEST, have seen 20% of a players ABs, can not remember 90% of what they’ve seen, reach conclusions based on personal preference, and then totally misstate the facts.

By: Mikey

Mikey — Thu, 05 Mar 2009 18:09:40 +0000

I’d take Nady over Swisher personally. I know Swisher is a moneyball guy but having seen alot of the two of them in person, I think Nady has more upside/talent. Study your numbers all you want, but with 2 runners on and 2 out at Fenway or the Trop who would you rather have at the plate? I just dont think Swisher has the make up to deliver in big spots.

By: Jeterboy

Jeterboy — Thu, 05 Mar 2009 18:06:22 +0000

The idea of a long reliever is supid.. get rid of Aceves.. put Melancon in there.

By: bg90027

bg90027 — Thu, 05 Mar 2009 17:51:13 +0000

“I have never believed that you have to have a “long man”. I think what you need is two or three releivers who can give you 2-3 innings at a time. Melancon and Coke can do that. Veras maybe.”

I disagree. I think its important and is something that’s been missing on this team for years, mainly for the swing starter aspect. We ought to have a guy in the bullpen who can make an emergency start and give at least 4-5 innings so we can stop doing the scranston – new york shuttle every time someone has to miss a start. Bring Hughes up if a guy is injured and is going to miss significant time but don’t bring him up for an emergency start.

By: bg90027

bg90027 — Thu, 05 Mar 2009 17:45:47 +0000

If you assume that they keep 12 pitchers, then this guess is as good as mine. I’m also a fan of Albaladejo though and might pick him over Robertson. I do agree with Pete that Gardner and Melky probably both make the team.

I’m not sure that they need 7 guys out of the bullpen though with this rotation like they needed them when they had Hughes, Kennedy, Ponson, Rasner, etc getting a lot of starts. I could see them keep 6 relievers (no Robertson, Ramierez or Albaladejo) and give the extra spot to Kevin Cash or a middle infielder (Berroa I guess). I’ve also wondered whether they might trade Juan Miranda now that he’s blocked by both Tex and Swish and give his 40 man spot to Shelley Duncan.

By: Scooter10

Scooter10 — Thu, 05 Mar 2009 17:22:32 +0000

If Posada can’t catch in April, they’ll need to add Cash to the 40-man roster. Unless someone goes on the 60day DL, then Giese could be the odd man out.

So, I’m thinking we carry 3 catchers and 6 relievers. And Giese would have to pass waivers and accept an assignment to Scranton.

Haven’t seen any grounded Arod articles. Who plays 3B if he’s out? Ransom? Too bad E.Duncan hasn’t materialized.

By: 86w183

86w183 — Thu, 05 Mar 2009 17:16:49 +0000

I have never believed that you have to have a “long man”. I think what you need is two or three releivers who can give you 2-3 innings at a time. Melancon and Coke can do that. Veras maybe.

If the ARod report is accurate they have to get someone for the first month or so of the season. Since it’s just a stop gap I would prefer Ray Durham (who’s never played 3B) because he can really hit and costs nothing in prospects.
Bill Hall wouldn’t be bad because he can play any OF position too, but he has two more years on his contract and that would be complicated.

It also makes it more likely that Damon starts about half the time in CF to upgrade the offense. If Matsui and Posada were important before their comebacks are absolutely critical now.

CF Damon
SS Jeter
2B Cano
1B Teixiera
DH Matsui
C Posada
RF Nady
LF Swisher
3B Durham

I’ve seen worse

By: dan l

dan l — Thu, 05 Mar 2009 16:47:19 +0000

Melky sucks because he is not mentally in games all the time. He needs a year in AAA.

By: Old(Brittany doesn't wear panties!!!)YanksFan

Old(Brittany doesn't wear panties!!!)YanksFan — Thu, 05 Mar 2009 16:42:26 +0000

Some thoughts:
Career OPS+: Nady 108 – Swisher 112
EXcluding 08: Nady 101 – Swisher 118
Also: every defensive metric has Swisher as a FAR better defensive player. And even with Nady’s (career year) 2008 and Swisher’s horrible 2008, Swisher’s career OBP is 19 points higher. Lastly, Nady’s career numbers were gathered in the NL West and NL Central, the 2 weekest divisions in MLB.

It’s a relatively SSS, but in 228 ABs for the Yankees, Nady posted a 105 OPS+. For comparison, JD has a 111 OPS+ in his Yankee career, MUCH better speed and better defense.

There is really NO comparison between XMan and Swisher. And while I know the ladies here really like XMan’s package, up until last year, considering defense, Nady was a BELOW AVERAGE player (101 OPS+ and poor D.. for an OFer!)

Frankly, if Melky can get back to his rookie year 95 OPS+, considering his arm, defense and speed, he may be as valuable as XMan. Of course, this assumes XMan’s 1/2 year in 2008 with the Pirates was an aberation, and his career 101 OPS+ is closer to what we can expect.