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Cashman: No surgery scheduled for A-Rod yet

Posted by: Peter Abraham - Posted in Misc on Mar 06, 2009 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Brian Cashman just spoke to the media after getting off a two-hour conference call regarding Alex Rodriguez.

They are discussing all options. As of now, surgery has not been scheduled. But — and this would seem significant — Alex is staying in Colorado for “the foreseeable future.”

Said Cashman: “The stiffness is the beginning of the process. Eventually there is going to be pain. … You have to be realistic. We could be on the verge of having an incident. … What’s best for him is what’s best for us.”

UPDATE, 10:12 p.m.: Cashman has not spoken to any teams regarding trades. All his time has been spent trying to determine a course of action with A-Rod.

I don’t get the sense that the Yankees are hiding anything. They seem to be making every effort to get as educated as they can on this injury and what is the best thing to do.

 
 

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166 Responses to “Cashman: No surgery scheduled for A-Rod yet”

  1. AMS223 March 6th, 2009 at 10:01 pm

    wasnt there an issue last year with the team and announcing injuries and such…just come out and say he is getting surgery. It is the best thing for his health and our team in the long run. I dont want to see a mets ryan church saga going on in the better burough

  2. crawdaddie March 6th, 2009 at 10:02 pm

    Pete,
    Since, you’ve been very critical of Arod on this blog. If he has the surgery now will you blame Arod for not trying to play through this by putting his self interest above the needs of the team?

  3. jennifer March 6th, 2009 at 10:03 pm

    Is that Cashspeak for he is having the surgery as soon as we trade for someone? Why else would he stay in Colorado for the foreseeable future? That is hte only thing that makes sense. He has the surgery, than goes to one of those posh spas and recovers.

  4. raymagnetic March 6th, 2009 at 10:05 pm

    What are the chances that Alex actually has to miss the entire season because of the hip surgery?

    What are the chances he’s not the same hitter when he comes back from the surgery this year?

    What I’m basically asking is how normal is this surgery that he’s going to have and what are the recovery rates?

    Is this going to be a degenerative condition ala Albert Belle?

    I know Marcus Camby has similar surgery and was able to come back and still play basketball at a high level but he was much younger when he had his surgery.

    Inquiring minds need to know these things :|

  5. DT March 6th, 2009 at 10:06 pm

    It took 4 days just to get an appointment with this doc.

    Is he “on hold” to the Yanks until they make up their mind on surgery?

  6. raymagnetic March 6th, 2009 at 10:07 pm

    Speaking of Albert Belle, how the heck is he not even on the HOF ballet anymore but Jim Rice is in :???:

  7. jennifer March 6th, 2009 at 10:07 pm

    I’d guess there is no way to know. Everyone is different and recovers from injuries and surgeries differently. Alex is apparently a healthy person who takes great care of his body (save for those “three” years). I’d think he has a much better chance to fully recover. Than again I’m not a doctor I only play one on a blog. ;)

  8. Rob L. March 6th, 2009 at 10:09 pm

    Get the surgery already!!!! The longer they wait the longer he’ll be out.

  9. GreenBeret7 March 6th, 2009 at 10:09 pm

    jennifer
    March 6th, 2009 at 10:03 pm
    Is that Cashspeak for he is having the surgery as soon as we trade for someone? Why else would he stay in Colorado for the foreseeable future? That is hte only thing that makes sense. He has the surgery, than goes to one of those posh spas and recovers.

    ————————————————————

    I imagine he’ll do baseball things for a few days and then the doctors will check it out and see if the cyst reappears and see what type of mobility issues he has. No sense in flying back to Florida then back to Colorado. Just my guess, though.

  10. GreenBeret7 March 6th, 2009 at 10:11 pm

    No sure if anybody is listening to the game, but, that loud crack was Montero’s bat. Not many hitters have that sound.

  11. Stephen March 6th, 2009 at 10:13 pm

    Ah, “the process.” That’s the Cashman we love!

  12. kill.schill(ing) March 6th, 2009 at 10:13 pm

    “They are discussing all options. As of now, surgery has not been scheduled. But — and this would seem significant — Alex is staying in Colorado for “the foreseeable future.”

    Can you enlighten me as to the possible implications of A-Rod remaining in Colorado? Does his remaining in Colorado increase the likelihood of his having surgery? Where would he go otherwise for rehabilitation? Tampa? I’m not being sarcastic. I honestly don’t profess to know. Do you?

    P.S.
    Gotta disagree with you in this regard nonetheless.

    Julie has to be the hottest female on FNL. But I’ll give you Connie Britton as a close second. You handicap for the age, perhaps, perhaps, she goes from place to win.

    But I’ll take Julie every time. Jeter can have Minka

  13. DT March 6th, 2009 at 10:15 pm

    “No sure if anybody is listening to the game, but, that loud crack was Montero’s bat. Not many hitters have that sound.”

    LOL GB… Did you used to say that when Ronald Reagan did radio baseball play by play too?

    He would tap the pencil on the desk to fake the sound of the bat as he read the ticker tape.

  14. Bob(The Original) March 6th, 2009 at 10:17 pm

    Ray, that’s what has me concerned. Not the 4 months or so he’ll miss this season, but long term what this means for him.

  15. jennifer March 6th, 2009 at 10:18 pm

    Was the doctor part of the conference call?

  16. raymagnetic March 6th, 2009 at 10:18 pm

    “raymagnetic-

    you’re right. there is absolutely no one in professional baseball to back up the possibility that posada or matsui may not be ready for the season .

    by definition , if cashman does not get anyone, then there was no one to get.

    typical cashman enabler.”

    I’m not enabling Cashman at all. I’m just asking what should he have done.

    Most teams back ups hardly play at all anyway. There’s nobody who’s going to be good enough to replace Posada or Matsui and still be a bench player.

    Even if said player did exist would it make sense to trade for a guy who’s good enough to replace Posada or Matsui but is going to sit on the bench?

    If the Red Sox lose Ortiz for the whole year they don’t have anybody on their bench good enough to replace him.

  17. Brandon Witnessed Dwayne Wade pull an MJ March 6th, 2009 at 10:20 pm

    OTish but Dwayne Wade is the MVP no back to reg. talk

    Oh is the Julie your talking about the coach’s daughter ? I kind of agree and note she has the fastest pair of growing … I have seen in some time.

  18. GreenBeret7 March 6th, 2009 at 10:20 pm

    DT
    March 6th, 2009 at 10:15 pm
    “No sure if anybody is listening to the game, but, that loud crack was Montero’s bat. Not many hitters have that sound.”

    LOL GB… Did you used to say that when Ronald Reagan did radio baseball play by play too?

    He would tap the pencil on the desk to fake the sound of the bat as he read the ticker tape.

    ————————————————————

    LMAO. No, smart ass. That was loud, though. I watched about 75-85 games last year and you can tell the difference in the sound between him and Duncan. Not saying that it’s Mantle or Rodriguez loud…not yet, but, it’s getting there. He’s going to be some kind of hitter, and a decent to good carcher.

  19. jennifer March 6th, 2009 at 10:21 pm

    I think the first question is can he play through this? And second if he can hurt it worse if he plays through this. If the answer is yes, than he goes and gets the surgery. This guy is signed for the next 9 years, the last thing you need is for him to try and play and he does long term damage.

  20. tampayank March 6th, 2009 at 10:24 pm

    Cashman looks like he just woke up after a long night of boozing, wonder what he’s thinking right now

  21. Alfred March 6th, 2009 at 10:25 pm

    SPEAKING OF NEWS. DID you Guys HEAR the audio Pete posted of CC talking about his INNINGS went.

    Instead of CC calling Jorge Posada, Jorge. He called him “Jose.” (Hear it for yourself on the post below.) Wow, talk about mental error CC.

  22. DT March 6th, 2009 at 10:25 pm

    Nice inning by Robertson – strikes out the side.

    Yanks win 7-3! Stop the panic! :-)

  23. Morris March 6th, 2009 at 10:26 pm

    Robertson strikes out the side to end the game

    From the sounds of it, Him and Veras looked impressive.

  24. chrisfitzh2o March 6th, 2009 at 10:28 pm

    How bad would it be for A-Rod to go ahead and have the surgery? The pitching staff is much improved with the additions of CC and A.J., and the return of the Wanger. Cash needs to make a trade for a solid defender at 3rd with a decent stick. Then, If the Yanks are still in the race in July (which they will be), what a deadline upgrade to get A-Rod back in the line-up! (added by Mobile using Mippin)

  25. Joe I March 6th, 2009 at 10:29 pm

    “Instead of CC calling Jorge Posada, Jorge. He called him “Jose.” (Hear it for yourself on the post below.) Wow, talk about mental error CC.”

    Maybe he was talking about tonight’s catcher Jose Molina.

  26. Arcobug March 6th, 2009 at 10:30 pm

    Alfred

    Isn’t Molina Catching? He was in the lineup.

  27. Arcobug March 6th, 2009 at 10:30 pm

    Alfred

    Isn’t Molina Catching? He was in the lineup.

  28. Tex's New Best Friend March 6th, 2009 at 10:30 pm

    That Jose is one valuble member of our team. Yep… Jose Posada….

  29. Arcobug March 6th, 2009 at 10:31 pm

    How depressing is this whole AROD situation. What a downer. What a way to open 2009.

  30. Tex's New Best Friend March 6th, 2009 at 10:31 pm

    exactly idiots…. Molina was catching… CC is not an idiot to get a name wrong.

  31. Brandon Witnessed Dwayne Wade pull an MJ March 6th, 2009 at 10:32 pm

    ‘Maybe he was talking about tonight’s catcher Jose Molina.’

    WAH WAHHH….

  32. m March 6th, 2009 at 10:33 pm

    Did we win? Highlights, lowlights? Thanks in advance.

  33. Joe March 6th, 2009 at 10:34 pm

    From what it appears— Cashman really doesn’t want him to have it and A-Rod himself probably wants to have it.

    I mean, A-Rod did tell his brother, Boras, and his DR teammates that he was having it. My guess is that Cashman told him we can’t afford to lose him so he should try and see if there was any way to play through it without threatening his career.

    Clearly, these guys are not on the same page.

  34. jennifer March 6th, 2009 at 10:36 pm

    Yes we won. Highlights Cody made two fantastic plays at third. “little G” made a great play in the outfield. Low lights Angel butchered two plays.

  35. Boston Dave March 6th, 2009 at 10:37 pm

    Joe,

    I wouldn’t say that at all. Cashman is waiting to find out as much info as possible before making such a big decision.

  36. ray (sox fan) March 6th, 2009 at 10:37 pm

    m

    The C’s appreciate your support tonight. :)

  37. ZMan March 6th, 2009 at 10:37 pm

    m -

    CC, Aceves, Veras, Robertson, Claggett pitched well

    Ransom hit a double, Damon/Po/Gardner each had a hit,

  38. GreenBeret7 March 6th, 2009 at 10:38 pm

    Here’s the live action link for tomorrow afternoon’s game.
    Just click on the Gameday tab in the upper left center. save it and you can use it each game by changing the date in the calendar in the upper right.

    http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/gameday.....b_nyamlb_1

  39. randy l. March 6th, 2009 at 10:38 pm

    “I’m not enabling Cashman at all. I’m just asking what should he have done.”

    first of all he should have had a fall mri done on arod to check up on the problem they found with the mri in the spring.

    he shouldn’t have delayed posada getting the operation so long last summer. if it was done sooner, posada’s throwing condition would have been known well ahead of spring training instead of unknown as it is now.

    he could have written off matsui as the dh because of the uncertainty with his knees and signed manny and then there would have been the offensive depth to withstand an injury like arod’s .

    he also should have signed another decent veteran starting pitcher because one of the starting five will be going down and we’ll be having this same kind of conversation that we’re having with arod.

    untested rookies and veterans like guise are not 6th starter depth. we’ll wait for that one when it comes up. it will.

  40. Boston Dave March 6th, 2009 at 10:39 pm

    ray,

    I can’t believe how well the C’s shot the ball. Cleveland didn’t seem like they were really into it either.

  41. Jeff D March 6th, 2009 at 10:39 pm

    Cashman doesn’t want to concede surgery because he thinks he can play through it based on what the Doctors have said.

    The doctor on ESPN said there is a 75% change that he can play through it.

    No needed to have the surgery unless it is absolutely needed.

  42. GreenBeret7 March 6th, 2009 at 10:39 pm

    ray (sox fan)
    March 6th, 2009 at 10:37 pm
    m

    The C’s appreciate your support tonight.

    ————————————————————

    The Boston Clippers?

  43. m March 6th, 2009 at 10:39 pm

    jennifer,

    Thanks. Angel needs to relax. IF Ransom’s a regular then Angel has a good chance to be the utility IF. That’s if his d is good.

  44. GreenBeret7 March 6th, 2009 at 10:40 pm

    Jesus Montero with a rocket double into the corner…now hitting .667

  45. Phil March 6th, 2009 at 10:41 pm

    Jose Molina was catching, Alfred.

  46. Brandon Witnessed Dwayne Wade pull an MJ March 6th, 2009 at 10:41 pm

    ‘The Boston Clippers?’

    LOL

  47. ray (sox fan) March 6th, 2009 at 10:42 pm

    Boston Dave,

    LaBron didn’t seem to be as sharp as usual going 5/15 from the field.

    The games I have watched lately Pierce has looked very good.

  48. PJH March 6th, 2009 at 10:42 pm

    An interesting thought that I have thought about and others have mentioned is knowing Alex had hip stiffness last season, why did they not have him checked out by doctors in October? He could have had the surgery and been ready for April. Makes no sense to me.

  49. m March 6th, 2009 at 10:43 pm

    Thnx Z, but I think you forgot Swish’s rocket. :)

    ray, I was following it by the radio updates. They let a 9 run lead dwindle to 2 at the half. My fan status is day-to-day.

    I don’t think it’s the team’s decision. Alex and the doctor.

  50. GreenBeret7 March 6th, 2009 at 10:45 pm

    m
    March 6th, 2009 at 10:43 pm
    Thnx Z, but I think you forgot Swish’s rocket.

    ray, I was following it by the radio updates. They let a 9 run lead dwindle to 2 at the half. My fan status is day-to-day.

    I don’t think it’s the team’s decision. Alex and the doctor.

    ————————————————————

    9 run lead at the half? What were they playing? Baseketball?

  51. ray (sox fan) March 6th, 2009 at 10:45 pm

    GreenBeret7
    March 6th, 2009 at 10:39 pm
    ray (sox fan)
    March 6th, 2009 at 10:37 pm
    m

    “The C’s appreciate your support tonight.
    ——————————————————————————————
    The Boston Clippers?”

    GB….don’t know when…don’t know how…but you will pay!

    I’m sure you are now very afraid. :)

  52. GreenBeret7 March 6th, 2009 at 10:46 pm

    Brandon Witnessed Dwayne Wade pull an MJ
    March 6th, 2009 at 10:41 pm
    ‘The Boston Clippers?’

    LOL

    ————————————————————

    It just seems so normal to rag Boston fans.

  53. GreenBeret7 March 6th, 2009 at 10:47 pm

    ray (sox fan)
    March 6th, 2009 at 10:45 pm
    GreenBeret7
    March 6th, 2009 at 10:39 pm
    ray (sox fan)
    March 6th, 2009 at 10:37 pm
    m

    “The C’s appreciate your support tonight.
    ——————————————————————————————
    The Boston Clippers?”

    GB….don’t know when…don’t know how…but you will pay!

    I’m sure you are now very afraid.

    ————————————————————

    Just watch out if you come around here. My guard cat will get you.

  54. vinny-b __trade for Hank Blalock__ March 6th, 2009 at 10:47 pm

    “Since, you’ve been very critical of Arod on this blog. If he has the surgery now will you blame Arod for not trying to play through this by putting his self interest above the needs of the team”

    yawn.

  55. Brandon Witnessed Dwayne Wade pull an MJ March 6th, 2009 at 10:49 pm

    ‘It just seems so normal to rag Boston fans.’

    My friend saids the same but instead he calls them the The Boston Clippas :lol:

  56. DT March 6th, 2009 at 10:49 pm

    Losing a 9 run lead at the half means you have a terrible bullpen!

    And in Yankee action, Shelly Duncan fouled out tonight and the Yankee rookies made their free throws in the late innings. ;-)

  57. ray (sox fan) March 6th, 2009 at 10:49 pm

    “Just watch out if you come around here. My guard cat will get you.”

    GB, I heard your guard cat has a cyst on its hip so I have nothing to worry about! :)

  58. PAT M. March 6th, 2009 at 10:49 pm

    One of the key isseues here is that the Yankee farm system other than pitchers have zero replacements at their disposal when it comes to postion players…I watch the Angels just plug up a hole from their system…No, you cannot replace Alex of course, but the panic to go outside is an issue…In a few years as some of the young players make their way up things will be diferent….I’m with Randy i, on how in the hell can the club not do an end of season check on a hip that everyone knows was at least admittingly stiff….This is an FO screw up…Especially when you have almost 270 million invested in him….Randy has blinders on sometimes when it comes to Cashman, but he’s still off the pace and trails Pete’s venom for A-Rod….

  59. PJH March 6th, 2009 at 10:50 pm

    For those curious about the hip labrum injury, surgery and recovery, Michal Rozsival, a defenseman from the Rangers had the exact surgery over the summer. He played through the injury last season and had it at the during the offseason. He got the procedure from the same doctor and says it takes 4-6 months to recover. Id imagine if a hockey player can play through such an injury, a baseball player should have no issue. But then again there is no question that hockey players are much, much tougher than baseball players.

    rangers.lohudblogs.com

  60. GreenBeret7 March 6th, 2009 at 10:51 pm

    ray (sox fan)
    March 6th, 2009 at 10:49 pm
    “Just watch out if you come around here. My guard cat will get you.”

    GB, I heard your guard cat has a cyst on its hip so I have nothing to worry about!

    ————————————————————

    True, but, if my cat (Long John Silver) isn’t up to it, my attack parrot is.

  61. randy l. March 6th, 2009 at 10:53 pm

    .”Randy has blinders on sometimes when it comes to Cashman, but he’s still off the pace and trails Pete’s venom for A-Rod….”

    no way. my venom could kick pete’s venom’s ass any day :)

  62. GreenBeret7 March 6th, 2009 at 10:54 pm

    Brandon Witnessed Dwayne Wade pull an MJ
    March 6th, 2009 at 10:49 pm
    ‘It just seems so normal to rag Boston fans.’

    My friend saids the same but instead he calls them the The Boston Clippas

    ————————————————————

    I never make fun of people with a speech impediment.

  63. DT March 6th, 2009 at 10:55 pm

    “True, but, if my cat (Long John Silver) isn’t up to it, my attack parrot is.”

    GB, since you gave your cat a porno name, I’m not even gonna ask what you call the parrot.

  64. Tom K March 6th, 2009 at 10:55 pm

    Don’t know if hockey players are tougher – dumber, perhaps.

  65. Betsy March 6th, 2009 at 10:56 pm

    Boy, Cash looks exhausted……..and I would think by his comments that surgery will eventually be scheduled. He’s talking about pain now…..I guess of course we knew there would be, but did the DR. that said there was a 75% chance that Alex could play through this say that there would be pain? An incident sounds very ominous – I don’t think the Yankees feel comfortable just waiting this out……

    I don’t think the Yankees would consider trading Swisher for Figgins at all – and I would definitely not do that.

  66. GreenBeret7 March 6th, 2009 at 10:58 pm

    DT
    March 6th, 2009 at 10:55 pm
    “True, but, if my cat (Long John Silver) isn’t up to it, my attack parrot is.”

    GB, since you gave your cat a porno name, I’m not even gonna ask what you call the parrot.

    ————————————————————

    The cat was named after a pirate (not Roberto Clemente). The parrots name is “Duke”. I was going to name him “Nancy” after a famous NY area sports writer.

  67. Bob(The Original) March 6th, 2009 at 10:58 pm

    PJH
    March 6th, 2009 at 10:50 pm
    For those curious about the hip labrum injury, surgery and recovery, Michal Rozsival, a defenseman from the Rangers had the exact surgery over the summer. He played through the injury last season and had it at the during the offseason. He got the procedure from the same doctor and says it takes 4-6 months to recover. Id imagine if a hockey player can play through such an injury, a baseball player should have no issue. But then again there is no question that hockey players are much, much tougher than baseball players.

    ——————-

    One of the countless doctors who have been on TV the past 2 days said that this is a more common injury for hockey players.

  68. Teixeiramvp March 6th, 2009 at 10:59 pm

    This blof always depresses me. It gives the worst possible outlook on events. A diff. report I read says there’s a 75-80% chance A-Rod plays all season-with pain, but I’ll take A-Rod over Ransom, even a dimished A-Rod. I honestly believe we’ll be fine.

  69. Bob(The Original) March 6th, 2009 at 11:00 pm

    The best part about getting Figgins would be not having to face him when we play the Angels.

    I hate that little SOB. lol

  70. Betsy March 6th, 2009 at 11:00 pm

    Here are some pics to get us in the mood:

    http://tinyurl.com/7nme7p

    http://tinyurl.com/6wcyye

    http://tinyurl.com/a3jj87

  71. Al March 6th, 2009 at 11:01 pm

    Swisher for Figgins would be the type of trade that you could make. You may have to give up a good player to get one.

    You are not getting an established 3B for Igawa, Veras, Edwar, Duncan etc. These teams are not just going to help the Yankees.

  72. Boston Dave March 6th, 2009 at 11:02 pm

    PJH,

    Where is the tear?

    Based on something said earlier, Alex’s tear is in the back of the hip which is riskier because of it’s proximity to the bone (can restrict blood flow?).

    Chase Utley and Mike Lowell had the tear in the front.

    I’m not a doctor but apparently there is a big difference.

  73. GreenBeret7 March 6th, 2009 at 11:02 pm

    This ***blof*** always depresses me

    ============================================================

    I hate depressing ***blofs***, too.

    Just kidding, Teix.

  74. PAT M. March 6th, 2009 at 11:02 pm

    Angels are not likely to trade away their leadoff hitter and their most fexible ballplayer….Randy I, your venom is admirable, but Pete is obsessed with ragging on # 13 with fags in full display….

  75. Boston Dave March 6th, 2009 at 11:02 pm

    PJH,

    I meant “where was the tear for the hockey player” ?

  76. m March 6th, 2009 at 11:03 pm

    Bob,

    When I think of Chone, I think of the cat that some dope put on a bong. Heavy eyes, indeed.

  77. jennifer March 6th, 2009 at 11:03 pm

    Betsy- Wow you are right. He doesn’t look exhausted. Probably hasn’t slept in days. Joe looked really tired too. Had that tight face he gets when he is upset.

  78. Arcobug March 6th, 2009 at 11:04 pm

    I can’t take this whole AROD thing anymore!!!!!!!!!!!!

  79. GreenBeret7 March 6th, 2009 at 11:04 pm

    PAT M.
    March 6th, 2009 at 11:02 pm
    Angels are not likely to trade away their leadoff hitter and their most fexible ballplayer….Randy I, your venom is admirable, but Pete is obsessed with ragging on # 13 ***with fags in full display****

    ————————————————————

    That’s gonna buy you some hours in the timeout corner.

  80. Phil March 6th, 2009 at 11:04 pm

    Figgins sucks. Leave him where he is.

  81. DT March 6th, 2009 at 11:08 pm

    “The cat was named after a pirate (not Roberto Clemente). The parrots name is “Duke”. I was going to name him “Nancy” after a famous NY area sports writer.”

    Good thing. No one wants a parrot named after Lupica.

    I was going to name my dog Selena, since it is always digging in the dirt and following other people home.

    I recanted when I knew she might bark disparagingly at your parrot Duke.

  82. Kevin March 6th, 2009 at 11:12 pm

    I agree, Phil. Figgins is versatile, but the only position where he’s above average defensively is third, and his bat doesn’t really play there.

  83. GreenBeret7 March 6th, 2009 at 11:12 pm

    DT
    March 6th, 2009 at 11:08 pm
    “The cat was named after a pirate (not Roberto Clemente). The parrots name is “Duke”. I was going to name him “Nancy” after a famous NY area sports writer.”

    Good thing. No one wants a parrot named after Lupica.

    I was going to name my dog Selena, since it is always digging in the dirt and following other people home.

    I recanted when I knew she might bark disparagingly at your parrot Duke.

    ————————————————————

    There are quite a few named “Nancy”. Nancy Lupica, Nancy Mathews, Nancy Sherman, Nancy ETC.

  84. CaptainsCorner March 6th, 2009 at 11:12 pm

    I wonder what the doctor recommended that he do. Maybe they are optimist that he can play threw it because he hasn’t had any pain yet. It seems like the kind of injury that he will make worse while playing threw it. Since they have him signed for another 9 years you would think they would just want him to get the surgery done now. Instead of having to worry everyday during the season if he is ok to play that day.

  85. Christina March 6th, 2009 at 11:12 pm

    What a long day of baseball. It was a good thing this game wasn’t on tv because you all would have been bored to death. A few eventful things happened before the game started tho and for some reason the yankees came out for batting practice alot later than they normally do.

  86. Betsy March 6th, 2009 at 11:13 pm

    I can’t believe I read on another board that someone is claiming that the fans would have the right to question Alex’s committment to the team should he choose to have surgery right away without even attempting to play…….Actually, I can believe it – anything to kill A-Rod. It’s his future at stake, his body, and fans think they have a right to that? That he should put the team before himself?

  87. PAT M. March 6th, 2009 at 11:13 pm

    GB7, I’m cetain I will not be alone in jug / detention ….

  88. GreenBeret7 March 6th, 2009 at 11:15 pm

    PAT M.
    March 6th, 2009 at 11:13 pm
    GB7, I’m cetain I will not be alone in jug / detention ….

    ————————————————————

    Yeah, Mel and Doreen are real troublemakers on this board. You guys need to be genteel and well behaved….like me.

  89. m March 6th, 2009 at 11:16 pm

    I thought I saw that the dr. said he 75-80% chance he could play with the injury.

    Get the surgery done. I think Alex will be a quick healer and he’ll work hard at the rehab. Hopefully, the team will be doing well and motivate him to hurry up and join the fun.

    How did CC look? Not bad?

  90. Jacob March 6th, 2009 at 11:17 pm

    What is Cashman willing to give up for a 4-month rental?

    I doubt much at all. Therefore, he isin’t going to be able to get anyone good.

  91. Betsy March 6th, 2009 at 11:20 pm

    Too bad no quotes about CC, but I guess that’s to be expected given the situation.

  92. m March 6th, 2009 at 11:20 pm

    jugs? I don’t think so.

  93. YankeeJosh March 6th, 2009 at 11:22 pm

    Randy I,

    I think you’ve actually identified what has been a problem with the Yankees organization and Cashman for years. They have been razor thin, and that’s in large part due to the poor farm system.

    However, I think you are being too hard on him this year. The Yanks have Swisher who provides depth in the outfield and at first if a player goes down. They have a very good 1-5 starting staff and Phil Hughes who imo is ready for a rotation spot if there’s an injury. They also have Aceves, Tomko, and Kennedy as options if pitchers get hurt. They’re certainly not on the caliber of CC or AJ but they all can be serviceable. Even if Burnett and Pettitte go down, the Yanks can still field a rotation of CC, Wang, Joba, Hughes, Acebves, which isn’t terrible and is better than most teams can do.

    At Catcher, they have Molina who while offensively challenged is still a much better hitter than the guys of the past like Nieves, Flaherty and Fasano. If he played for a full season, his numbers and defense would likely rival those of Jason Varitek, who happens to be the starting catcher for our chief rivals. Kevin Cash is an adequate back-up.

    In the bullpen there are a ton of arms, Edwar, Alby, Veras, Bruney, Melancon, Cox, Robertson, Coke, Marte etc etc. So there’s depth there.

    So, the only place Cashman arguably failed to get a decent back-up this year was the middle infield position. It’s not like any above average player would want to ride the bench all year anyway, so the best that could have been hoped for is someone who is above average, say like an Alex Cora. Could Cashman have done better? Perhaps. Though if Berroa could have returned to form that could have been quite a steal.

    All in all I think Cashman did a pretty good job assembling this years team. Perhaps the Yankees errored on A-Rod but when he’s built depth everywhere else, I can’t kill Cashman for missing one spot.

  94. PAT M. March 6th, 2009 at 11:25 pm

    m, when we were in school jug was another name for detention..a form of punishment administered by the irish christian brothers…you sat a wrote from a random textbook for a solid hour after school…i learned my lesson a few weeks ago about careless slang……

  95. 4time March 6th, 2009 at 11:25 pm

    Swisher is great depth off the bench

    Problem is we don’t have the utility INF. Not like anyone could readily replace A-Rod anyway.

  96. DT March 6th, 2009 at 11:25 pm

    “Too bad no quotes about CC, but I guess that’s to be expected given the situation.”

    Betsy – on the last blog Pete put up an interview with CC.

  97. m March 6th, 2009 at 11:25 pm

    Ball’s in A-rod’s court.

    http://mlb.mlb.com/news/articl.....8;c_id=mlb

  98. Betsy March 6th, 2009 at 11:26 pm

    Well, here’s a quote from CC and a tidbit about Brett:

    http://weblogs.newsday.com/spo.....kees/blog/

    *CC Sabathia made his first official spring training start. He allowed one unearned run on two hits and no walks, with two strikeouts, in two innings. He was pleased and said: “I feel like it’s been a good camp. I’m just trying to get ready for the season.”
    *Mariano Rivera is gone for a couple days to support the Panama team in the World Baseball Classic. He is NOT pitching for them, but is there to carry the flag or some other ceremonial thing. He will throw a bullpen there tomorrow and return Sunday night from Puerto Rico.
    *Brett Gardner made a fantastic catch going back in deep centerfield. He is batting second behind Johnny Damon. Joe Girardi said we may see more of that with Gardner/Melky Cabrera until Derek Jeter returns from the WBC.

  99. Eastport March 6th, 2009 at 11:27 pm

    If you think about it, Cashman lucked into having Swisher on the bench. He was supposed to be the starting 1B. Then we got Teix and that forced him to the bench. And he was shopping him and Nady the entire winter anyway.

    I bet that Nady/Swisher are going to be used by Cashman to attract a 3B now.

  100. m March 6th, 2009 at 11:28 pm

    Pat M,

    I was joking. I thought it was another example of your terrible typing skills. I thought you meant “juv”.

  101. Betsy March 6th, 2009 at 11:29 pm

    DT, thanks! I guess I forgot to check the updates before moving onto the new thread……Now I just can’t wait until AJ pitches on Sunday!

  102. PAT M. March 6th, 2009 at 11:31 pm

    m, i have excellent penmanship…all those hours in jug….

  103. vince March 6th, 2009 at 11:31 pm

    sounds an awful lot like the Posada situation last year. The same day Posada was announced as out for the season, they traded for Pudge.
    Could be same deal here; perhaps they will announce signing of Grudzielanek or Durham Monday, when A-Rod announces he’ll have surgery

  104. DT March 6th, 2009 at 11:34 pm

    Corey Koskie would have been a nice flyer, but he just signed a minor league contract with Cubs last week. He is playing with Canada on the WBC team.

    Koskie thinks he is 99.99 % recovered from post-concussion syndrome that has sidelined him since mid-2006.

    “If Koskie does not make the Cubs’ Opening Day roster, he has agreed to go to Triple-A Iowa for a minimum of 30 games if needed.”
    http://tinyurl.com/c7et8s

    He’s a good glove at 3B and would be a decent fill-in splitting time with Ransom.

  105. Christina March 6th, 2009 at 11:34 pm

    In other news, posada threw for a little bit today, they didnt push him very much though.

    Cody Ransom looking pretty good on the field and I think he did pretty well offensively too.

  106. Betsy March 6th, 2009 at 11:35 pm

    M, that’s a good article – thanks for posting.

    I really feel for Alex – of course he wants to be with his teammates, helping them prepare for what could be a special season. He has to put himself first (although as Cash said, what’s good for Alex is good for the team) – if his inclination is to go forward with the surgery, then that’s what he has to do. It’s a lonely time for Alex because, after all of the information has been gathered, it’s up to HIM and him alone to decide.

  107. Don March 6th, 2009 at 11:38 pm

    It’s a dicey situation for Cashman, of course he is stressed out. His best player has hip problems and may miss 4 months of the season.

    There is no easy trade scenario either. He can’t acquire a good player without giving up prospects, then there is the question of what to do with the player once A-Rod comes back. A good player isin’t going to happily go to the bench in August so you have another situation on your hands then.

    Nothing easy or good at all about this situation.

  108. Betsy March 6th, 2009 at 11:38 pm

    http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/yankees/

    CC stuff always makes me feel good…..

  109. m March 6th, 2009 at 11:39 pm

    Betsy,

    Can’t help but think that Cash IS working the phones. But he doesn’t want Alex to think he’s trying to get rid of him, so he does the “we’re only thinking about Alex at this point”. Alex might not trust Cash too much. Cash tried to lock the door the last time Alex ran away.

  110. PJH March 6th, 2009 at 11:40 pm

    The exact details on where the tear for Rozsival is sketchy.
    But he did play a substantial amount of time with a similar condition in a much more demanding activity.

    Tom K- Watch a hockey game. It is pretty common for guys to be getting stitched up on the ice in minutes, sometimes they get stitched on the bench.

    And to say they are dumber shows ignorance on your part. Hockey is much more comlicated than baseball.

  111. Lenny March 6th, 2009 at 11:46 pm

    A-Rod is going to get his money regardless of what happens, so it’s not like he has to protect his future in order to earn his salary. That’s more of a concern for the Yankees, not A-Rod himself.

    And now all of his records are tainted anyway and he will not be acknowledged as the clean HR king, so that may not be that important to him now either to stay in top health in order to peruse these records. Therefore, he may be willing to gamble more for the present rather than make sure he is ok for the duration of the contract.

    A-Rod’s goals are different from Cashman’s. But I don’t think A-Rod wants to watch the postseason from the sidelines either. Tough call for him.

  112. PAT M. March 6th, 2009 at 11:47 pm

    There aren’t any hockey players with a 270 million dollar gauranteed contract…Hell 270 mil buys you just about any NHL team ….

  113. T-Dot March 6th, 2009 at 11:47 pm

    m,

    That’s a great point. Clearly, Cash and A-Rod are not the best of friends. You can tell that just by reading Cashman’s quotes throughout this whole thing.

    Heck, A-Rod told his brother, agent, and teammates on the WBC about the surgery before even consulting Cashman.

  114. Boston Dave March 6th, 2009 at 11:48 pm

    MLB Trade Rumors should be paying Pete royalties.

    He has been on the cutting edge of all the ARod news lately. Good job Pete!

  115. pat March 6th, 2009 at 11:54 pm

    Sounds like whether an inpingement with the bone is involved determines how much pain will occur.

    Lowell went from feeling tightness in the hip in June to drug fogged baseball by the end of the season because of the bone contact while Utley was able to play through it because no bone inpingement was involved.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2009/03.....ref=sports

  116. Tom March 6th, 2009 at 11:56 pm

    Unless it violates the CBA, I don’t know why teams don’t put steroid clauses in contracts so they are able to get out from the contract if the player was found to have used steroids.

  117. m March 6th, 2009 at 11:56 pm

    T-Dot,

    Of course they don’t get along. If Alex acted more like a Yankee and less like an ass(et), there wouldn’t be a problem. :)

    I think as the days pass (between now and let’s say Sunday), I think the shock of the diagnosis/prognosis will wear off. They’ll do what’s right. I can’t imagine trying to play with an impingement.

  118. Betsy March 6th, 2009 at 11:59 pm

    M, Cash trying to find a replacement for A-Rod for a few months doesn’t mean that he wants to get rid of the guy, but yeah, I understand your point. Still, I see no reason not to believe that Cash is concerned about Alex – this is not an easy thing for Alex to be going through and Cash is a good man. Any decent human being would have to have some compassion…….

    Lenny, Alex has a future life outside of baseball; I’m sure he does not want to be dealing with a bad hip for years, or possibly even have to have a hip replacement.

  119. jennifer March 7th, 2009 at 12:02 am

    Well since baseball players talk with each other. Alex should call both Lowell and Chase to get ideas of how they played through it.

  120. vtred March 7th, 2009 at 12:03 am

    Why is somebody wearing a New York Rangers NHL jersey at the Tokyo Dome during this Chinese/Teipei game?

  121. Yankee2123 March 7th, 2009 at 12:09 am

    Arod’s contract is not only an albatross for the Yankees, it will be for Arod as well. He’ll be forced to perform into his forties, as his body breaks down, while chasing records that don’t have the same meaning for him anymore. In his MVP season’s Arod has been bood at times. What will happen to a forty year old Arod, if he’s a shell of himself? I think both sides need to sit down sometime in the future, and figure out a plan for this guy. With a hip injury of this magnitude, can he even fulfill the length of his contract? What’s really stupid is that the contract didn’t contain option years. I can see them giving them seven years guaranteed, if they really wanted him. But eight-ten should have been team options.

  122. ZMan March 7th, 2009 at 12:10 am

    Even if Cashman shops for a 3B, he isin’t going to get one unless he overpays. I think Ransom will get every opportunity to be the 3B and prove he can hit enough at this level.

  123. m March 7th, 2009 at 12:12 am

    Betsy,

    No, I meant get rid of Alex for the first 4-6 months of the season.

  124. Tom March 7th, 2009 at 12:15 am

    Yankee2123… Couldn’t agree more. Nothing good ever happens to a guy who gets a 10 yr contract at age 32.

    It’s going to be embarrassing in a few years when he is breaking records that don’t mean anything. They can’t even celebrate it or acknowledge it, every hit, HR, etc. is tainted. At this point, I don’t think he is going to break Bonds’ record considering he is already starting to break down in yr 2 of his contract.

  125. m March 7th, 2009 at 12:16 am

    I used to think that Alex would get the HR record, put it out of reach and retire with years left on his contract. that will be even more impossible now. Age and injuries will probably extend the arc of the streak.

  126. Kurt NY March 7th, 2009 at 12:18 am

    A-Rod doesn’t feel embarrassed that he still has that HR chase clause in his contract? Does the guy have no shame? Every media guy in the country was talking about how good of a gesture it would be to drop that clause and give the money to charity/steroid research or something, yet A-Rod doesn’t get it.

    Then again, with the way he is starting to break down, ala Giambi, he may not even get a chance to break those records…….

  127. yankee 822 March 7th, 2009 at 12:20 am

    Boras did a masterful job getting Alex this contract. There was no loop hole at all to get out of it. He protected himself against everything. Now they are stuck paying a guy for 9 more years who is an admitted steroid user who is already starting to break down and is a PR disaster and brings drama everywhere.

    Serves the Yankees right… next time, try and build an actual team, not a one-man freak show that will boost the YES ratings.

  128. Torre's Terrors March 7th, 2009 at 12:22 am

    Kev has some new yankee stadium photos up on his blog. hi def tvs in the mirrors!

    http://nyyankeesrumors.com/new.....date-3709/

  129. Yankee2123 March 7th, 2009 at 12:23 am

    I know the player’s union likes to play hardball (no pun intended), but in this economic climate ,the Yankees and Arod should be able to sit down with an arbitrator, and hash out a buyout of his contract, with possible money deferred. I wouldn’t want to pay him to play for someone else, but if the Yankees could say keep him until he’s 36/37, and then he’ll become a free agent. He could either try and catch on with another team, and try and break the already tainted home run record, or retire.

  130. Yankee2123 March 7th, 2009 at 12:24 am

    Oh yeah, this fiasco is also probably the reason that Hank is in the back of the class.

  131. Yankee2123 March 7th, 2009 at 12:25 am

    But at least Hank finally knew when to shut up.

  132. m March 7th, 2009 at 12:25 am

    I wasn’t in favor of A-rod’s return and I really hated that contract. But that would be weak if the Yankees tried to worm out of it now.

  133. james March 7th, 2009 at 12:32 am

    The NY Times reported that as soon as the steroid news broke, Levine was on the phone with MLB immediately to find out if there was any way out of this contract– there isin’t.

    I would imagine the only way to get out of it is if he retires. But c’mon, the guy is greedy he would never leave money on the table. It would have to be a medical retirement, if anything. Or if he commits a crime and goes to jail, you could probably get out of it.

    Boras doesn’t mess around… he seals these contracts air tight.

  134. Big 10 March 7th, 2009 at 12:34 am

    Canada vs. USA tomorrow in the WBC. But it starts at 2 PM, right in the middle of the Yankees game

  135. CaptainsCorner March 7th, 2009 at 12:37 am

    As far as the home run money goes, I am sure when the time comes the organization will talk to him about it. The extra money was for when he breaks the record and they go into a partnership to sell the memorabilia when that happens. Well now he won’t be breaking the record and there won’t be a partnership. So basically he won’t be getting that money. There is no way that the Steins will give him money for something that won’t be happening.

    Also I believe that he will retire before he embarrasses himself on the field. His 10 year contract was based on the fact that he would break the record or get close. Let’s say in 5 years when he is 39 and his body starts to break down from regular play AND the steroids then he will retire. There is no reason for him to play until the contract ends since he will not be breaking the record. If he breaks down he will not have anything else to force his body to play threw. The Yanks will have a say in it.

  136. pat March 7th, 2009 at 12:40 am

    Isn’t talk of “breaking down” from a singular injury a little premature?

    Mo had TJ surgery before ever hitting the majors. How broken down has he looked for the past 15 years?

    Medical technology in orthopedics is something that extends athletic careers these days not shortens them.

  137. South Coast March 7th, 2009 at 12:41 am

    Teixeria isin’t going to get anything to hit without A-Rod.

    Matsui is not nearly the threat he once was.

  138. Lenny March 7th, 2009 at 12:42 am

    Captain – I hope A-Rod is unselfish enough to know when to call it quits and forgo that tainted HR chace. But I have my doubts.

  139. Lenny March 7th, 2009 at 12:43 am

    *chase

  140. m March 7th, 2009 at 12:44 am

    pat,

    Yes, it’s premature. But our “superman” is not so super. :(

  141. Uncle Ellsworth March 7th, 2009 at 12:46 am

    Hmmm
    Iknow Grudz has not played 3B in a while but I was surprised that he hit 299 in 330 ABs with 99 hits and 24 doubles last year not too shabby

    Oh and it was 14 years since Cal broke Lou’s record?????????
    holy hat where does the time go?

  142. m March 7th, 2009 at 12:47 am

    So Wang’s on deck for tomorrow?

    Is anyone else giddy that we’re now in rotation mode? Like a snowball rolling down a hill, there’s no stopping it. Before you know it, the season opener will be here.

  143. Phil March 7th, 2009 at 12:47 am

    I don’t know why people think Swisher is gonna be on the bench. He’s better than Nady and should start.

  144. Phil March 7th, 2009 at 12:48 am

    and it’s going to turn out his homerun chase is not tainted.

  145. CaptainsCorner March 7th, 2009 at 12:48 am

    The breaking down talk is just stupid. It is just wear and tear. Utley is 3 years younger then Arod and he just had the surgery. Is he “breaking down” at 31?

  146. jonnycat March 7th, 2009 at 12:51 am

    i thought arod dumped boras after the opt-out fiasco….now he is reported as his agent everywhere and giving quotes about the surgury. What did i miss?

  147. CaptainsCorner March 7th, 2009 at 12:52 am

    I hope Montero plays in tomorrow’s game. It would be nice to see him play a little more before he gets sent back to minor league camp. The ball just flies off his bat.

  148. Drain003 March 7th, 2009 at 12:57 am

    In this day and age of ramped up drug testing, we’re going to see less and less players producing into their late 30s

  149. Uncle Ellsworth March 7th, 2009 at 12:57 am

    so Cal just said on MLB that he did not know what “on the juice” meant back then. I guess all the juicers in my High School were ahead of the curve as far as juicing goes. We all knew who was “on the juice” back in 1983.

  150. pat March 7th, 2009 at 1:08 am

    m

    I never thought he was “superman”, just a really talented player.

    Reasonable expectations helps avoid disillusion.

  151. m March 7th, 2009 at 1:13 am

    pat,

    No, I just meant that Alex was like Paul Bunyan for so long and all of a sudden the cracks are showing. It’s just been a bad month for the guy. I almost feel sorry for him. ;)

  152. GreenBeret7 March 7th, 2009 at 1:16 am

    The stupidity that gets spouted on this board is almost unbelievable. Sadly, it’s the same idiots with new SNs that make the IQs on here drop by 40 points.

  153. GreenBeret7 March 7th, 2009 at 1:18 am

    At most, the 3 years of steroids could have accounted for is 10% of his numbers….16 homers.

  154. m March 7th, 2009 at 1:18 am

    GB7,

    Is that you? Test question. Who’s the really old lady that you guys said was a fox back in the day?

  155. GreenBeret7 March 7th, 2009 at 1:22 am

    Yes, Mel. It’s me. If you’re referring to Sophia Loren and Ann-Margret….they still are.

  156. Uncle Ellsworth March 7th, 2009 at 1:28 am

    GB7 if your fan of Ann M. you need to check out the movie “The Swinger” with Ann M. and Tony Francisosa Classic 60s kitcsh. Ann looking great. It was on TMC a few weeks ago. One of the best bad movies I’ve seen.

  157. m March 7th, 2009 at 1:30 am

    ANNHH. The one that’ even older. Platinum blonde. Looks like she could be Pamela Anderson’s grandma.

    Never mind your 1:18 post proves it’s you.

  158. pat March 7th, 2009 at 1:41 am

    m

    Alex is one of my kids favorite player. He said he felt sorry for him and asked if I did. I told him I didn’t feel sorry for him because he made bad choices but I did feel sad for him.

    Explaining the difference between sympathy and empathy to a 10 year old proved to be quite an adventure. :smile:

  159. m March 7th, 2009 at 1:51 am

    pat,

    What an unfortunate teaching opportunity!

  160. Abdul March 7th, 2009 at 1:52 am

    how come the video chat from today isn’t available online? the only one that is available is from February (last time)

  161. m March 7th, 2009 at 2:01 am

    Sweet entry on Cervelli’s “italianess” and how the heck did Terry Collins end up playing for China?

    http://bats.blogs.nytimes.com/.....-cervelli/

  162. Lara08 March 7th, 2009 at 2:17 am

    No, Pat. What a good teaching opportunity. Such is life. If parents spent more time teaching/and communicating with their children about bad things as opposed to trying to sterilize the world so their kids wouldn’t see it we’d be better off.

    When his steroids use first came out I listened to someone spouting the “What about my kid?” garbage.

    A parent’s job is not to keep their kid from experiencing disappointment, failure, etc. Its to teach them how to deal with those feelings in a healthy manner.

  163. Uncle Ellsworth March 7th, 2009 at 2:19 am

    Thanks M that’s cool
    Back in the 40s the italians would have a good team. Dimaggios, Rizzutos, Berra… many others

  164. GMAN March 7th, 2009 at 7:53 am

    1940′s…WWII…Italian Americans would have played for one team and one team only…the USA!

    The seeds of baseball were planted overseas during the War Years by US military personnel stationed in Asia and Europe.

    The WBC would not have existed because there were no other countries playing the game…Baseball was a uniquely American game in the 1940′s…

  165. Angel - A tale told by idiots, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing March 7th, 2009 at 7:37 pm

    Boras did a masterful job getting Alex this contract. There was no loop hole at all to get out of it. He protected himself against everything. Now they are stuck paying a guy for 9 more years who is an admitted steroid user who is already starting to break down and is a PR disaster and brings drama everywhere.

    *************************************************************

    Comments like this just stagger me.

    I can’t believe in 2009, its possible to be that ignorant and uninformed.

  166. Angel - A tale told by idiots, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing March 7th, 2009 at 7:43 pm

    Alex is one of my kids favorite player. He said he felt sorry for him and asked if I did. I told him I didn’t feel sorry for him because he made bad choices but I did feel sad for him.

    ***********************************************************

    I do agree that he has made some really bad choices. But I do feel sorry for him about this particular injury. It’s gotta be devastating for him. From what I understand had nothing to do with steroid use , so in this case I do feel sympathy for him.

    I guess unless as some moron said, this injury is “karma” for his bad choices. :roll:


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