Spring Game 14: Reds at Yankees
Posted by: Peter Abraham - Posted in Misc on Mar 10, 2009 
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YANKEES
Gardner CF
Damon LF
Nady RF
Matsui DH
Ransom 3B
Molina C
Miranda 1B
Berroa SS
Pena 2B
Pitching today: Joba Chamberlain followed by Kei Igawa, Christian Garcia, Phil Coke, Mike Dunn and Anthony Claggett.
REDS
Dickerson CF
Gonzalez SS
Bruce RF
Phillips 2B
Barker 1B
Encarnacion 3B
Nix LF
Hanigan C
Bankston DH
Pitching today: Nick Masset.
Notes: The game is on YES. … If case you were keeping track, there are now 60 players in camp after six players were dropped yetserday. … The rotation for the rest of this week is Sabathia tomorrow, Wang on Friday, Hughes vs. the Pirates on Saturday and Burnett vs. the Astros on Saturday. … Back with more later.
UPDATE, 2:11 p.m.: Mike Mussina is here. He’s on vacation with his family.
UPDATE, 2:39 p.m.: Chien-Ming Wang threw his bullpen as scheduled. He feels fine now.
UPDATE, 3:00 p.m.: It was good to see the Moose. He’s here for a week with his wife and kids, spending time out of the Pennsylvania cold. He has no regrets whatsoever. “When I saw the weight room I knew I was retired,” he said.
You have to admire the guy for winning 20 games and walking away when he was still healthy and able to pitch. That’s pretty cool.
UPDATE, 7:08 p.m.: Brian Cashman said the answer for third base, “is here in camp.”
“No GMs have called me and I’ve called no GMs,” he said.
That probably means you can’t expect a new third baseman tomorrow. But at least that is what he is saying for now.
Not sure how many updates I’ll be doing tonight with the game on YES. Enjoy the musings of David Cone.
UPDATE, 7:23 p.m.: 8 pitches, 6 strikes. Crisis over for Joba.
UPDATE, 7:57 p.m.: Joba wasn’t great but he was certainly much better and he hit 96 on the gun. Major progress tonight.
Meanwhile, I know it’s spring training. But Brett Gardner is 13 of 26 counting the Team USA game.
All of the 0-3 service time players signed contracts, by the way.
Awesome, going to get out there at about 5 tonight Pete, hope to get to track you down
NBA talk is so depressing as a Knicks fan.
We’ve basically put the entire teams in the hands of 2010 when in reality, we may not get anybody. And we have no future at all unless you think Gallinari and Wilson Chandler will lead us to the promise land.
I also see guys like Bosh and Amare joining Wade or LeBron in whatever city they’re in to try and win a ring, so we may not even get the 2nd tier guys.
Nice! We get to see Garcia pitch, finally.
If Joba has been playing hurt/injured, then Phil Hughes will take his place in the rotation until he’s healed. There I’ve solved it. By the way, I think tonight’s game is important only to try to figure out whether or Joba is playing injured. IMO he’s far too good a pitcher to have nothing but bad outings. I’d never kick him out of the rotation for bad outings minus injury. Never. But I think it is important for the team to determine whether something else is going on here.
Is all.
GO KEI IGAWA!
Yes I finally can see Garcia on YES !
Can I see some Austin Jackson too ?
It is what it is Ken, our glory yrs. was watching MJ and Reggie Miller cut our throats in every single way known to man.
Anybody remember when we didn’t trade Joba for Teixeira?
I am almost positive that Joba is for real so count me in the group that says he’ll be fine.
igawa, oh god, now that the american idle is gone he’s the next yankee joke.
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now that kellerman is gone, the michael kay show is the only show worth listening to. don lagreca is probably the most likeable fellow on radio. richard neer is pretty good too. steve summers use to be good before he got all crazy on the yankees and the way he pronounced abreu’s name. A few years ago (during the paul lo duca divorce thing) a caller called in and said “steve you keep calling giambi “the sultan of shot”, i think you should call paul lo duca the mistro of molestation”. steve hangs up on him but i was cracking up. it’s ok for him to make fun of yankees but not mets, so lame.
“Wanna slap your butt cheeks” guy saying hi to Francesa
MoOoOoOoOoOoOOse!!
Radio Daze:Daily news speculates Kellerman – Mike F. pairing.
“A Francesa-Kellerman pairing, a marriage of huge egos, would make for interesting radio and fireworks.”
interesting Mike F’s head will explode when max starts with his saber stats.
WFAN should sign him for any slot. Maybe get rid of Carton who is THE WORST EVER.
Mike Mussina is here. He’s on vacation with his family.
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Nice
igawa, oh god, now that the american idle is gone he’s the next yankee joke.
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now that kellerman is gone, the michael kay show is the only show worth listening to. don lagreca is probably the most likeable fellow on radio. richard neer is pretty good too. steve summers use to be good before he got all crazy on the yankees and the way he pronounced abreu’s name. A few years ago (during the paul lo duca divorce thing) a caller called in and said “steve you keep calling giambi “the sultan of shot”, i think you should call paul lo duca the mistro of m——–n”. steve hangs up on him but i was cracking up. it’s ok for him to make fun of yankees but not mets, so lame.
Atleast my Yankees and Giants will be very good for the foreseeable future, unlike the Knicks. Those teams actually have foundations in place and can win championships as presently constructed (and the Giants already won 1). Hope the Knicks strike gold in 2010 but I’m not holding my breath.
I would LOVE Kellerman on WFAN in some capacity.
What’s Mussina doing in Florida? Silly Moose.
Did he forget that his good pal Pavano and the Indians now train in Arizona?
Ask Mussina his thoughts on A-Rod
Just crossing my fingers the Knicks get LeBron in 2010.
It seems that Igawa, Coke, and Dunn have pitched in every televised game so far.
I’d love Lebron, but would take a Joe Johnson/Amare combo or something too. Just get somebody who could make us relevant again.
Bron will leave Cleve in 2010 if he hasn’t won a ring yet.
Moooooooooooose!!! I miss Mike!
I can’t even watch the NBA anymore
Just like people say it is hard to watch baseball if you’re team isin’t any good, same holds true for me and the NBA. I’m bitter, I wish we had a superstar.
i don’t think francessa’s gigantic ( and fragile) ego could handle max. i was so shocked and just damn mad when i turned 1050 this morning and he was gone. he was the smartest guy in ny sports radio–well maybe kay is at least as intelligent, but there is nobody on the fan that can touch either of them. i’m sure that’s why they fired him–he doesn’t appeal to the “common man” who listens to sports radio–at least what they think the average listener is like. what they fail to realize that the sports radio audience isn’t just comprised of guys wearing wife beater Ts and drinking a bud…
See the Yankees were waiting for a Moose sighting for that Mountain dew case from a week or so back
It’s unfair to compare Igawa to Pavano. At least Igawa doesn’t get 100000 different injuries. Pavano = constantly injured bum. Igawa is just not a good pitcher, but at least he’s not taking a vacation on the DL.
why do my posts have lines drawn through them?
great info thanks
I hope Igawa continues to pitch well this Spriong so maybe he can attract some interest from some other team, maybe in the weaker NL
the yankees should trade hughes and ransom to colorado for Gatkins and Marquisto the rockies
colorado can keep their mosquitos. hughes will be a stud by the end of this year.
MikeEff:
The double — –crosses out words–
use bad grammar.
‘the yankees should trade hughes and ransom to colorado for Gatkins and Marquisto the rockies’
Again why ?
kay just said that he’s never met anyone duller than mike mussina lmao
Kellerman will get a job somewhere… he has to. He’s too smart not to stay unemployed. In what universe did 1050 think we want to listen to Tierney and Cowherd instead of Max?
Don’t most radio/TV stations have a 6-month no competition rule, meaning he can’t go to WFAN until that time has elapsed?
Mooooooooooooooooooooooooooooose
Kay will take any chance he can get to rank out on Moose.
I don’t see Moose as dull. Thoughtful, intelligent, well spoken – yes.
Kellerman paired with Francesa on FAN would be quite interesting.
The game is not on YES. They are giving Miked up.
What’s a Marquisto?
Kellerman and Francessa would be AWESOME. But it’s going to turn off a lot of Mets fans with all the Yankee-talk.
I also don’t think Francessa’s ego can handle him.
‘The game is not on YES. They are giving Miked up.’
It’s tonight genius.
So Mike is already jonesing for the Yankees? Not even one month into spring training.
‘What’s a Marquisto?’
A freak combo of a mosquito & marsupial
Cashman is on WFAN right now.
Who cares if it turns off a lot Met fans. The whole station is nothing but Met talk except when Francesa is on.
BTW Cashman is on with Mike now.
Brandon, ‘Watching Jorge Vasquez go Pujols in the WBC & Wade go MVP in the NBA’
March 10th, 2009 at 1:52 pm
SJ I’ve been saying it for awhile how LeBron is a superstar but Dwayne Wade is definitely w/o a doubt the closest thing I’ve seen to Micheal Jordan, I didn’t know Spolstra developed him, that changes my mind about him as a coach, but yeh that Heat team is starting to resemble the Chicago Bulls before the Dynasty began. Moon is a perfect Pippen like player, Cook and Chalmers have a bit of Kerr and the other 3 pt shooter escapes me right now. Damn what a steal they got in him, Miami is going to win a title again and they are if Jermaine O’neal finds a fountain of youth a dangerous team this year.
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Last nights gamne was one of the best I have ever seen. D Wade is out of this world. While they are not a threat this year or probably next, imagine in 2010 when they get cap relief? If they resign D Wade they still have room for at least 1 other big signing. Put Bosh or Lebron there and that will be something to see.
I still never found out what Mike really did to Kay to make Kay hate him so much. Gosh he never misses a chance to say how much he dislikes him. It must have killed him last year when Mike won 20.
It’s been over 12 hours since the Heat/Bulls game ended and I’m still having trouble even formulating coherent sentences about Wade’s greatness. Brandon, good looks on the youtube link (“A Finish To Remember”) in the other thread, I hadn’t seen that one yet!
This does my heart so good after a 15 win season during which everybody and their mother called Wade the next Penny Hardaway and said he would never play at a high level again. So much for that, he is playing way better than before he got hurt!!! He does everything for the Heat, it’s absolutely mind boggling. Just hoping and praying he stays in 2010, and the more Beasley improves and the more Wade to Cook becomes the new Wade to Posey, the better the chances are!!!
I have zero faith in JO ever rediscovering anything though. He’s so old and inconsistent and 2 and 3 rebound nights are far too commonplace. Still thrilled Riles made the trade for Moon, but hoping to get Bosh in the 2010 bonanza, I think he’d fit the Heat’s system really well.
As for the local teams I think the Nets should get Joe Johnson and I think their future is exceedingly bright and sky’s the limit but get rid of Frank already!!! It’s nice that he uses Harris more and better than Avery did but many coaches could do that, it’s not a reason to keep him on.
The Knicks? Nash and Amare will both be FA’s right? If it worked in PHO, it’ll work in the East….
I think to some degree, the Mussina we saw last year was not the Mussina of years past. I think the combination of having a far better than expected season and knowing it was his last really loosened him up considerably. I recall him being very much the pisspot in years prior, especially when things were not going well. Short with the press, staring down infielders who didn’t make plays behind him, etc. Always knew he was bright, but I thought he was dull too. Last year was the first time I viewed him as an engaging guy whose thoughts (and humor) I was interested in hearing.
If the Knicks miss out on LB I see them getting Joe Johnson and Amare. Two D’antoni guys getting back with old coach and heck maybe Nash will come along on a lesser deal?
Burnett on YES vs. Astros, yay! Phil vs. Pirates not on YES, boo! LOL I love Phil, but I’m certainly glad to see AJ!
Except for Joba, I’m only really interested in seeing Coke tonight, but then, I don’t know anything about Dunn and Claggett. Can anyone brief me on these guys? Can they potentially help us this year?
Aww, I love Moose – glad to see that he’s visiting the guys here. It’s wonderful that he was able to end his career on a high note (individual achievement wise) – for some, it just doesn’t end well.
Anyway, sorry to talk about the NBA so much but I still just cant get over last night’s game!
Back to the Yankees though – who would inflict the most damage on the opposition in a bench clearing brawl? For some reason I feel like Molina would wreck somebodys stuff up, and I wouldn’t want to tangle with Bruney or AJ either. CC is obv the biggest, but he seems too nice to fight!
YankeeRay he’s simply one of the greatest players in the NBA right now.
‘As a child growing up in the Chicago area Wade idolized former Chicago Bulls star Michael Jordan and has said he patterns his game after him’
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2okxHW6cGfQ
The similarities are evident.
“It’s unfair to compare Igawa to Pavano. At least Igawa doesn’t get 100000 different injuries. Pavano = constantly injured bum. Igawa is just not a good pitcher, but at least he’s not taking a vacation on the DL.”
Tseng although I am probably the only person in Yankee universe not yet ready to say Igawa is not a good pitcher, I agree with everything else you’ve written. The guy is NOT a bum and he doesn’t pitch like he’s in the little league and then announce to the press that he’s pleased with his outings.
I think that fans should always rally behind the players and appreciate the effort they make out there. The only time I feel justified to kick dirt in a player’s face is if it is OBVIOUS that the guy is playing poor ball but keeps patting himself on the back – that or if a guy is OBVIOUSLY dogging it in the field or at the plate.
Awesome, we should be able to Watch AJ on Sat vs the Astros. Should be fun.
Cash sounds positive (although with qualifiers ……) about Jorge and thinks Cano is having a very good spring. He wonders if Cano tried to do too much when he was moved up in the lineup last year……he thinks Cano definitely has 20-25 HR potential.
How come we never see anyone interesting on the YES games?
I would love to be a fly on the wall on the days AJ pitches, Rodg; he seems awully intense and fiery – I love that. He brings a very intimidating presence to the mound.
Betsy, I don’t necessarily follow the NBA but as I said before, at times I am actually relieved when I see talk other than baseball here because then it means that we don’t have a forum whipped out of control, kvetching over the makeup of the team, the team’s season being over, etc.
(is kvetching the right word? Actually, my Hebrew is probably as good as my Italian, just about – which isn’t very good!)
Wade said he idolized MJ growing up? What kid didn’t idolize MJ?? I wanna be like Mike…
Trisha – ‘kvetching’ is actually technically Yiddush lol. Italian Jew in the house here and my Italiano is molto better than my Hebrew, but still not very good. Still shocked gli italiani (I prob. typed that wrong) won last night! And yes, you did use kvetching correctly! It’s nice to see people aren’t doing it and making the forum messhuganah (sp?) in the process.
Cashman choice is Gardner if he keeps it up.
‘Wade said he idolized MJ growing up? What kid didn’t idolize MJ?? I wanna be like Mike…’
Wade grew up in Chicago, so it was even more reason for him.
Cash seems really happy with Phil – “curve fantastic”, FB command, etc…..He’s not worried about Joba – pitchers right now are just building up their arm strength….
As to the new acquisitions: Cash knew less about AJ than the others, but he has a “great personality” and CC/Tex have come as advertised. The new guys have fit in very well……
Cash seems pretty relaxed, probably because now he can concentrate on baseball. He just said that, for a period of a few days, he was almost disengaged from the team because he was so involved with the issues re: the surgery, etc.
I grew up in the suburbs of NJ and Jordan was my favorite athlete! He was so amazing, it doesn’t matter where you grew up.
LOL Trish – kvetching is Yiddish, not Hebrew, but you’ve got it right!
Betsy -
Plus his stuff is so electric he has a shot at throwing a No-No every time he goes out there. It’s that filthy.
‘I grew up in the suburbs of NJ and Jordan was my favorite athlete! He was so amazing, it doesn’t matter where you grew up.’
Speak for yourself I couldn’t stand him, I was a Knicks fan still am, yes he was great, bald basterd made my life a living hell
Cash calling Girardi “Joey” sounds stranger than Jeter calling Alex “Al”.
Kellerman and Francessa would be AWESOME. But it’s going to turn off a lot of Mets fans with all the Yankee-talk.
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lol
The metsblog.com folk would start whining like never before. They already can’t stand the fact that a “Yankees fan” has a huge chuck of time on their Mets station.
“Speak for yourself I couldn’t stand him, I was a Knicks fan still am, yes he was great, bald basterd made my life a living hell ”
cmon you know you love him! Best player of all time.
‘Cash calling Girardi “Joey” sounds stranger than Jeter calling Alex “Al”.’
Almost like a friendship type of thing.
chuck=chunk
Moose is/was one of the seemingly rare professional athlete who was actually an adult. Hope he comes to Old Timers’ Day.
‘cmon you know you love him! Best player of all time.’
Never in my life did I wear a pair of Jordans, never. It was Nikes and Reebok of every other type, but Jordans were off limit. I respected MJ but no I did not love him, how the …. could I.
Being from Chicago, Wade super idolized MJ. It’s why my heart skipped a beat at the trade deadline when I saw the Bulls had cleared all the cap space for 2010. For the same reasons Teixeira chose the Yankees because of Donnie Baseball. But I think the Heat will be able to provide Wade with more weapons so I’ll just have to hope that wins out. Plus, it’ll be easier to attract a complementary FA b/c everyone wants to play in Miami.
Moose is a very very wealthy man but its gotta be tough to turn down at least another $8-12 million.
I too was no fan of MJ. I’m a knick fan tried and true.
There’s only room for one #23 in my life…
Brandon I’m just joking with you man. I know tons of Knick fans and they all hate MJ. Just having a bit of fun with you.
Thanks Bets and BBB!
Actually I am full-blooded Italiano – well you know, my heritage as far back as I know, but my parents were born here – and I know very little Italian. My parents spoke it only when they didn’t want us to know what they were saying, but not very often!
Too bad too because seriously, and not because I am Italian, I think it is a beautifully flowing language to hear spoken. You know kind of like German…NOT!!!
ACH-TUNG!!!
Moose is here-Could that mean Joba is hurt?
I wonder if when the season starts, we will see Jeter hitting 3rd until A-Rod comes back. I think that may be the best option.
Damon/Gardner
Damon/Gardner
Jeter
Teixeira
etc.
‘Brandon I’m just joking with you man. I know tons of Knick fans and they all hate MJ. Just having a bit of fun with you.’
Dude that’s not fun, how would you like it if Mo were a Mariner and Griffey was dropping the Yanks out of the playoff yr. after yr.
these are painful memories and one of the worst Knicks fans is Spike Lee, yeh keep pushing that player to give that 1000 % effort, Ewing, Oakley, Starks and Mason prbly wanted to drop kick his mouth.
To me, Jeter calling ARod “Al” is more unusual than Cash calling Girardi “Joey”…during Girardi’s playing days I often thought of him as Joey the way O’Neill was Paulie. I guess it’s a little weird with Cash being his boss, but Cash is cool like that!
As far as Al, I wish more people would start saying that or Alex. “A-Rod” is too trendy and, I dunno, “Bennifer”esque or something. I don’t like it…or K-Rod or any of that other garbage but I only care about Alex!
just out of curiousity, can anyone remember what ManCaveItch used to call him?
Moose is here-Could that mean Joba is hurt?
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No
Brandon
More that starting with Torre and continuing with Girardi, they seem to put a “y” at the end of lots of peoples names- Farnsy, Gardy, etc.
With my family and friends, we dropped the “y” as we got older (Patty became Pat) and with the Yankees the opposite seems to happen.
What makes Wade’s story even better is the relationship he has developed with his mother after all the problem she had while he was growing up. I saw a profile piece about it on ESPN E60 a few months ago and it really is a great story.
The fact that Charles Smith did not dunk that ball STILL pisses me off to no end.
Cash will be on with Kay at 4 pm….
There’s still a lot of spring training left but it’s easy to see that little by little the shine has worn off Melky.
Gardner’s speed plus his listening of Kevin Long’s advice is paying off.
Brandon, ‘Watching Jorge Vasquez go Pujols in the WBC & Wade go MVP in the NBA’
March 10th, 2009 at 3:11 pm
‘cmon you know you love him! Best player of all time.’
Never in my life did I wear a pair of Jordans, never. It was Nikes and Reebok of every other type, but Jordans were off limit. I respected MJ but no I did not love him, how the …. could I.
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Brandon, you can’t wear GarAnimals forever.
Also, I love the Moose, he is one of my all-time favorites. And as much as I’d absolutely love to see him come back for Old Timers Day and/or as a coach eventually, let’s not get too ahead of ourselves here…I’m still kinda holding out hope that if it looks like the Yankees could win a ring this year or next, he’ll come back and pitch out of the bullpen so he can get one. I know its not rly his style but he could do it quietly and not attention ho style like Roger. Stranger things have happened, right??? Pete has he stayed in playing shape?
‘The fact that Charles Smith did not dunk that ball STILL pisses me off to no end.’
Just stupid
BBB
I agree. A-Rod is like the caricature of Alex.
I’ve heard Minky call him Al.
There’s a better chance Red Ruffing rises from the dead and pitches for the Yankees than there is Moose comes back.
Moose is happy as can be, spending time with his wife and kids and enjoying the fruits of his labor.
And Joba is not hurt.
‘Brandon, you can’t wear GarAnimals forever.’
It was playless the Shaq editions GB7, then we upgraded Nike simple black, the Grant Hills, Penny’s…….in the future years I had ever pair of I3′s ‘The Answer’.
It was payless the Shaq editions GB7, then we upgraded Nike simple black, the Grant Hills, Penny’s…….in the future years I had every pair of I3’s ‘The Answer’.
Yeh I know speed typing errors.
As a Knicks fan the following players made my life hell:
Michael Jordan, Reggie Miller, Sam Cassell, Alonzo Mourning. If I never had to see these guys again it would be too soon.
Thanks Pete. Then Joba is my go-to guy. Period.
GO YANKEES!
Kobe > Wade
Neither has won without Shaq
Therefore, I take Steve Nash over both of them.
Jason Kidd, Stephon Marbury, James Dolan, Frederic Weis
Brandon, ‘Watching Jorge Vasquez go Pujols in the WBC & Wade go MVP in the NBA’
March 10th, 2009 at 2:52 pm
YankeeRay he’s simply one of the greatest players in the NBA right now.
‘As a child growing up in the Chicago area Wade idolized former Chicago Bulls star Michael Jordan and has said he patterns his game after him’
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2okxHW6cGfQ
The similarities are evident.
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Brandon, I could only laugh when Wade made the steal and hit that shot. I live in S Fla and have watched him since he’s been here. He is right there with Lebron and Kobie, tough to choose 1 as all 3 are fantastic.
What a pleasure watching him night in and night out and hopefully they will lock him up and add at least 1 more superstar in 2010.
JO is killing them right now but Moon has been great. As good as Rose is, I would rather have Chalmers and Beasley combo.
‘Kobe < Wade’
FIXED.
Muchacha sucia
trisha – As long as you’re in pinstripes, Kei, I’ve got your back.
March 10th, 2009 at 3:28 pm
Thanks Pete. Then Joba is my go-to guy. Period.
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And what about me?
Brandon, ‘Watching Jorge Vasquez go Pujols in the WBC & Wade go MVP in the NBA’
March 10th, 2009 at 3:24 pm
‘Brandon, you can’t wear GarAnimals forever.’
It was playless the Shaq editions GB7, then we upgraded Nike simple black, the Grant Hills, Penny’s…….in the future years I had ever pair of I3’s ‘The Answer’.
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It’s sad that either one of would admit to knowing what Garanimals are.
The big name shoe when we were growing up were the Converse Chuck Taylor All-Stars in black, only.
It still ticks me off that the Knicks couldn’t steal ONE championship the entire decade. Came close so many times, ugh. Disheartening.
When Wade plays D he can be talked about in Kobes level
Pat: I think I’m officially boycotting A-Rod and going with Alex. Not Al, it reminds me too much of an aging uncle.
Pete: Awww, man, way to shatter my dreams! Haha, guess I’ll have to settle for having him come back as a coach once his kids are grown then. Anyway, please pass on any interesting comments he makes today, I always love to hear what he has to say.
Al: What about PJ Brown?
Roger Clemens is hurtin’ for certain.
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/ne.....;type=lgns
“And what about me?”
I am ONLY talking a spot in the rotation!
i don’t know what i think of mussina. he refuses to pitch inside for years throwing away wins with his stubbornness, and then he relents and agrees to pitch inside and wins twenty in a year when the yankees are out of it all year.
right when he finally figures it out he quits.i think he’s the kind of soft player i’d rather see on other teams as an opponent.
it doesn’t make him a bad person or baseball player, but he had other things on his mind besides winning. that he won 265 games shows how talented he was. he could have won 300 easily if he would have pitched inside sooner.
Isiah wanted to build a championship contender around Marbury and Curry
“Al: What about PJ Brown?”
Not as much. Those other guys were God-like against the Knicks.
BBB:
Why in the world would Moose coach? He made roughly $150 million playing, he’s not coming back to teach kids how to pitch.
Star players usually don’t coach unless they have nothing else to do. Moose has plenty of other things to do, You might see him on TV from time to time or something like that. But he’s not a guy who needs a paycheck.
Oh please, DWade isn’t close to Kobe yet. When he plays some D consistently, come back and talk to me. Until then, he’s not on the same level.
trisha – As long as you’re in pinstripes, Kei, I’ve got your back.
March 10th, 2009 at 3:35 pm
“And what about me?”
I am ONLY talking a spot in the rotation!
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As long as I’m the ace of your rotation then we are cool though being considered the long reliever isn’t a bad thing either
‘When Wade plays D he can be talked about in Kobes level’
Are you not watching him ? Plus please when Kobe learns to utilize his roster put him on Wade’s level. Wade’s never had a roster anywhere near Kobe. Never. He had Shaq one yr. and won the title, had Lamar Odom and a raw Caron Butler and SVG cost them the playoffs when he chose to make Eddie Jones the go to guy in game 7 vs Indy, if not he would have led that team to the NBA Finals as a rookie vs a powerhouse Indiana Pacers squad.
Randy:
Moose was soft? He played 18 years in the majors and was one the DL twice I think. In 17 full seasons he averaged 30.8 starts a season.
He didn’t pitch inside because he didn’t have to, not because he was soft. He was able to out-think hitters, he didn’t need to try and bully them.
randy l.
March 10th, 2009 at 1:33 pm
“I don’t like Randy. He’s too opinionated and isn’t nice to people. He should be more like me. He’s just a $^&#@(* lousy old man.”
gb7-
yeah, well at least orville moody wouldn’t have sent me to the other side of the world like he did with you. you can tell a lot about someone by the way they swing a club.
i know. why club then when you can just shoot them?
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Ya’ see why nobody likes you, Randy. You say things like this and catch somebody by surprise. I’ve spent an hour trying to think of an equally mean comeback, and I can’t. I hate you.
But, just be warned. I’m working on it, and, just when you’re feeling safe, ***WAM***
rodg12
March 10th, 2009 at 3:40 pm
Oh please, DWade isn’t close to Kobe yet. When he plays some D consistently, come back and talk to me. Until then, he’s not on the same level.
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Rodg, he had 5 steals last night including the game deciding winner off a steal. He can and does play big D especially at crunch time. He’s no MJ but he is as good of an all around player as Kobe though I think Kobe creates his own shots a slight bit better.
Pete, could you provide some detailed definitions for me please. I’ve been around baseball for bunches of years, and I know approximately what it means to “Throw a bullpen”, or to “Throw a simulated game”, or “long toss”. BUT, I would love it if you or one of your readers would give a 3-4 sentence explanation of each.. in other words, something more than a brief dictionary definition. Thanks.
Didn’t Moose talk about going back and coaching HS Football or Basketball when he retired? Something like that.
Francessa says that “even though we are arguing this now, in the end Chamberlain WILL succeed Rivera as the Yankee closer”
This guy just can’t give it up. THE ARGUMENT IS OVER MIKE, YOU LOSE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MrV_W8Nl08Y
December 19th vs Kobe and the AllStar Laker lineup, keep in mind Miami had no one.
If Mike Francesa was a frequent blogger on this site, Pete would have banned him by now.
I don’t understand how this guy is able to head his own show for 5 hours!!
“Hey Moose, Joe lets us eat whatever we want now..”
“What! Should have never left”
“He was able to out-think hitters, he didn’t need to try and bully them.”
Not sure if it speaks well of Moose or not by saying this but he didn’t seem to out think Manny the last few years. A little bullying may have been more effective.
Rusty “The Bailiff” Hardin has weighed in on the Clemens report.
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/.....id=3966766
Francesa will not quit his Joba to the pen talk until Joba proves otherwise. If he can’t get out of the first inning all-spring expect Mikes banter to drone on.
Yeah… Wade was real good when he lead his team to 15 wins last year
Kobe’s worst year was when he won 34 games in 04-05 with nobody on the team and no P-Jax.
Correct me if I’m wrong but I thought Joba proved he could be an effective starter last year? He dominated…
Hopefully after this season there will be NO QUESTION as to Joba’s place on the team.
Joba isin’t giving Francessa any reason to shut up with his performance this Spring… he needs to show something tonight.
He isint going to get all the time in the world with Hughes knockin on the door.
Yes, because ST results count.
That’s just dumb.
Yesterday, Francesa said he, “couldn’t remember ever seeing Joba dominate as a starter”. When a caller asked him about the 1-0 win against Beckett in Boston, he changed his tune.
Bottom line, the guy doesn’t know nearly as much about baseball, or the Yankees, as his fan base thinks he does.
Nearly every day, somebody calls his show to correct him on something he said incorrectly about the Yankees or one of his players.
He is basically, a well paid BS artist and everyday more and more fans are seeing that. Especially when it comes to Yankee talk.
Something really turns me off about Wade, I can’t figure out exactly what. I love watching Kobe and LeBron but I don’t have that same affection for Wade, maybe because of his over dramatizing.
I’d love to have him here though. He’s one of those guys who you would love if he was on your side
WFAN has an older demographic than 1050, so I’m not sure if Kellerman would appeal to them– he’s going to be a star wherever he goes though. Maybe he’ll join Mad Dog Radio on Sirius.
SJ-n Francesa doesn’t know the team as well as You and I do obviously. He seems to hardly pay attention to the positives in Joba’s game he attacks the negative. That is just typical sportscasting to bum out the fan-base with BS.
Francessa is an idiot. He asks callers for proof that Joba can be a dominant starter as if there is ever proof that a 22 year old will be a dominant starter.
As a 22 year old, Clemens started 15 games with a 3.29 ERA. At the same age, Joba started 12 games with a 2.76 ERA. Is there any real proof for either of them at that point? Joba has pitched more innings in the majors as a starter than a reliever and been great.
CA Vz -
It’s because he draws all those bogus foul calls charging to the basket every time. If the NBA refs were any good, we wouldn’t even be talking about him with a title. Worst officiating performance in a finals in the history of sport.
Nathan, Can you be anymore incorrect on your proclaimations?
Re: Wade, he was coming off major knee and shoulder surgery last year. He played the season at about 50%.
Its his fault Shaq packed it in, he wasn’t at full strength, and the team played poorly?
Now that he is 100%, how is he doing? He was the best player in the Olympics and has been the best player in the world this season.
Don’t tell me you are another fan who lives and breathes ST stats? Phil Hughes isn’t “breathing down” Joba’s neck”.
Joba is the 5th starter in the rotation. He’s not going to Scranton, he’s not going to lose his job, and he’s not going to the bullpen.
He, like everybody else, is getting ready for the season.
While ST may be life and death for you, its not for Joba, or any guy assured of a roster spot.
Kay calls Moose the dullest person in the world????
Have you listened to Brian Cashman? Holy narcolespy batman!
Everyone on the MLB Network (sans Leiter) say he should be in the pen too, as has ESPN. Why are people singling out Francessa?
‘Yeah… Wade was real good when he lead his team to 15 wins last year’
Miami clearly was tanking and yes lets condemn Wade for 15 win season w/ an NBDL team. Did you see that roster he played with last season, Kobe would have cried.
“Johan or CC don’t have the stuff to be good relievers”
Come on SJ. Tough to argue Wade has been better than Lebron this year. Maybe you could argue about Kobe, but again talk to me when he gets it done night in and night out on both ends of the floor like Kobe. Plus his offensive repetoire is not as good as Kobe’s.
And, before the next comment will be, “why couldn’t Wade motivate Shaq”, how did Kobe do in that area?
If Shaq wasn’t such a lazy, ego driven guy, he would have had 3 more rings and counting if he stayed in either LA or Miami.
Think about it. Shaq blew off Wade and Kobe and has been NOTHING without either guy. Quite a legacy.
Shaq filled Wade’s head with all kinds of BS about Kobe when he was in Miami. Once Shaq left Miami, and Kobe and Wade had a chance to compare notes in Bejing, they became fast friends.
Amazing how things work out.
I still can’t believe Francesa thinks a guy with 4 pitches and a Roger Clemens physique should be in the pen.
CA Vz
March 10th, 2009 at 4:03 pm
Something really turns me off about Wade, I can’t figure out exactly what. I love watching Kobe and LeBron but I don’t have that same affection for Wade, maybe because of his over dramatizing.
I’d love to have him here though. He’s one of those guys who you would love if he was on your side
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You haven’t seen enough of him. He is very down to earth and doesn’t come off with an attitude like Kobe does sometimes and I’m a Laker fan. He gives a great interview and is easy to like when you watch him daily.
He was the best player in the olympics and is playing lights out right now.
Last year he was hurt and had no support. This year with Chalmers, Beasley and company he is showing the same ability that led him to a title.
mlb experts like billy f-face ripkin? or the guy fired from espn for harrassment?
ofcourse an ace pitcher is more important than a 8th inning reliever.
Wade has a couple good weeks and now he’s better than Kobe. You can’t make this stuff up. Kobe’s hot streaks run circles around Wade’s. Did you see what he did at the Garden?
Wade is nothing without the refs. Any true NBA fan can see that. Better than Kobe? Not a chance.
When pete started off that last post comparing wang to Joba I was cringing but by the end of the post, I was shaking my head in agreement. Joba is not Wang. Wang has proven multiple seasons that he could pitch extremely effectively over a full season at the major league level as a starting pitcher. Joba simply has not done that so while joba may have the nastier stuff, joba is also the one that still has a lot more to prove so the comparison is faulty in multiple ways. If joba does not turn it around soon then, we will continue to hold our breath right along with girardi. But at some point this spring, joba HAS to start pitching well. if he has a 9 era at the end of ST, I think he may not be our fifth starter in April. As of now, we will continue to wait and see but at some point, the waiting is going to end. It really would not shock me if hughes made the rotation out of ST but I was hoping he wouldnt merely because it means someone else has crashed and burned. I have never really been a big joba to the pen supporter but it will be interesting to see what happens if he struggles the rest of march. Id prefer to not see that but you never know.
rodrg the man you are saying isn’t playing defense is averaging 2.2 SPG, 1.4 BPG this season to Kobe’s 1.2 SPG, 0.4 BPG. Dwayne Wade has locked down SGs in the east and more.
Bennett Salvator deserves a ring for his performance during the 06 NBA finals.. biggest joke in NBA history
Wade has been better than both Lebron and Kobe this year.
Look at each teams supporting casts. Wade’s is by far the weaker of the three.
Geez, he spent the first 45 games of the year with the immortal Joel Anthony and Mark Blount alternating as his starting centers.
Kobe is 6-7. Lebron is 6-8, 250. Wade is 6-3 in his stocking feet and has been dominating at all ends of the floor all year.
Points, rebounds (the leading rebounding guard in the NBA), assists (he’s averaging almost 9 assists a game since the ASB), and he leads the NBA in steals since the ASB. He’s even in the Top 20 in blocked shots. The guy has been the most dominating player in the game this year.
Given the weakness of his supporting cast, his year is even more amazing.
Wade has had a “couple of good weeks”.
Do you even watch NBA basketball?
How about the Olympics? Did you watch that?
Wade was the best player on the Olympic Team.
He’s been great all year, not just for a few weeks.
But, hey I enjoy the hate. Shows he must be really good for folks to hate him. That’s the sign of acceptance as a dominating player.
“Think about it. Shaq blew off Wade and Kobe and has been NOTHING without either guy. Quite a legacy.”
Come on now. What has either of those guys done without Shaq? During Shaq’s prime, he was one of the most dominant players in the league. He averaged 30ppg at 21. At 23 he led a young Magic team to the finals and lost to the Rockets.
How can you dog Shaq’s legacy? He’s one of the most dominant players to ever play basketball and has gone to the finals with 3 different teams, winning 3 with the Lakers and 1 with the Heat.
Wade isin’t beating the Cavs or Celtics anyway, so what are we debating exactly? If he can get past the 1st round?
Enjoy the Lakers-Celtics rematch.
The worst thing that ever happened to Francesa was losing somebody with actual sports knowledge sitting next to him.
My question is: Do the people that employ Francesa realize he is a blithering idiot an continues to argue ridiculous points?
Do they realize he is losing any and all credibility he built up with his years on Mike and Maddog?
If they do, they should find someone to put next to him ASAP.
‘Wade has been better than both Lebron and Kobe this year.
Look at each teams supporting casts. Wade’s is by far the weaker of the three.
Geez, he spent the first 45 games of the year with the immortal Joel Anthony and Mark Blount alternating as his starting centers.
Kobe is 6-7. Lebron is 6-8, 250. Wade is 6-3 in his stocking feet and has been dominating at all ends of the floor all year.
Points, rebounds (the leading rebounding guard in the NBA), assists (he’s averaging almost 9 assists a game since the ASB), and he leads the NBA in steals since the ASB. He’s even in the Top 20 in blocked shots. The guy has been the most dominating player in the game this year.
Given the weakness of his supporting cast, his year is even more amazing.’
I mean seriously what else needs to be said. Wrap the MVP trophy up and send it to Wade’s house already.
neither has won anything without shaq
1 on 1, give me kobe hands down
Care to remember who took over for the US in the one close game they had?
Hint not wade
Has Wade ever scored 81?
Heck, has Wade ever scored over 50 in any game?
As others have said… Wade is a creation of the refs.
‘Wade isin’t beating the Cavs or Celtics anyway, so what are we debating exactly? If he can get past the 1st round?
Enjoy the Lakers-Celtics rematch.’
I know he wouldn’t have gotten eliminated vs the Suns and D’Antoni defense w/ that roster. BTW your so sure huh.. keep sleeping on teams in the West and pray that Gasol & Bynum bring it otherwise Kobe goes into his one man shoot or pass all game to prove a point to my GM moment.
Kobe is the best scorer in the game. I don’t even see how this can be debated, looking at their careers
Please don’t quote steals to show good defense, thanks. That’s like quoting RBIs in baseball to show how good a hitter is. Neither is a good performance indicator.
And, to be clear, I’ll readily admit DWade is CLEARLY the 3rd best player in the game. He, Kobe and Lebron are on another level from everyone else. I totally respect what he’s doing in Miami and would love to have him on the Lakers. I just don’t think he’s as good as either Lebron or Kobe. I mean, seriously, determining who’s best between those three comes down to personal opinion mostly. It’s not like there’s a right or wrong answer.
San Antonio is too old to knock off the Lake Show.
They will get a huge challenge from CLE or BOS though. Infact, I think a healthy Boston team will beat the Lakers again.
‘Has Wade ever scored 81?’
Please that was the Raptors defense.
‘Heck, has Wade ever scored over 50 in any game?’
This season.
‘As others have said… Wade is a creation of the refs.’
With a ring. And please Kobe isn’t exactly not getting phantom calls.
Shaq’s legacy is one of, “what might have been”.
He has spent the better part of the last 8 years out of shape.
He dominated early in his career and has been on a downward spiral for the last 8 years.
He has no real team legacy. He burns relationships and teammates and can’t last more than 4 years with a team.
That’s a leader?
He’s trashed Hardaway, Kobe and Wade, on his way out the door to each of those locations. Each of those teams have shown they can rebuild without him.
He’s funny, and dominated early and in the middle of his career. But, he was on his way to being a guy who could have won 6 or more rings and wasted his chance to seperate himself from anybody except Russell when it comes to winning rings.
Unlike guys like Russell and Jordan, he couldn’t stay in one place, act like an adult, and make his teams better by outworking everybody.
His legacy will be one of, “what might have been if he actually gave a crap”.
From his lack of fitness to ignoring any attempt to improve his FT shooting until this year, to his slash and burn philosophy with teams when he doesn’t get his way, its a shame he didn’t push himself a little more.
If he did, he really could have seperated himself from the pack when it comes to winning championships.
I think Kobe is the best scorer in the NBA, Lebron is the best weapon in terms of athleticism and pure skill and D-Wade is the best game changer in terms of his intangibles.
Oh lord, just heard clip from Colin Cowheard say his prediction “may 15 the Yankees are sunk” Oh lord, I didn’t know the baseball season was 30 games.
exactly.
Quoting steals as good defense shows very little knowledge about the NBA. You have to watch the games, and those who watch know that Kobe can play lockdown defense whenever he wants.
Wade is a creation of the refs? That’s more comedy. Keep it coming! lol
Yeah, superstars NEVER get calls in the NBA.
Jordan traveled for years and never got called on it.
Lebron and Kobe get their share of calls but, its Wade that’s a “creation of the refs”. Very funny! lol
You don’t have to score 81 points in a game to be “better” than someone else.
Both Kobe and Lebron are great, great players. This year, Wade has been better than both of them. Even Kobe and Lebron (read his comments in Jackie McMullen’s story on ESPN.com) say it.
But hey, keep the hate comin’. Its givin’ me a good laugh on a slow day.
jennifer,
Can’t believe they replaced Kellerman with that hack. Looks like Beningo and Roberts till 1…. sigh
still catching up here… but i was more of a fan of Barkley than MJ when I was a kid.
however, i did have a pair of those red/black ‘sky’ jordans in 3rd grade (before i knew any better)
I’ll take it a step further… LeBron is the BEST of the three!!!
Shaq is twice the rapper than Kobe or Wade will ever be.
SJ44… I thought you were a Knicks fan?
jennifer – colin cowherd does hack radio. it works in podunk towns but not in new york.
I don’t know how 1050 thinks Cowherd will be embraced in NY. Didn’t they try this experiment already?
‘When Wade is feeling right, he is one of the most devastating pick-and-roll players in the game, bursting to the basket, as Kobe Bryant described it, “like a bat out of hell that nobody can catch.”
“I’d make the same case for Dwyane that people used to make for me when I was on a team that didn’t have a lot of talent and we still managed to get to the playoffs,” Bryant said. “People don’t realize how difficult it is to do literally everything to get your team in.”
“ I don’t know what the [MVP] voters want. But whatever they’re looking for, I’m pretty sure D-Wade has it.”
– LeBron James
You know when your opponents are saying that, even they know.
I don’t know the history of Shaq leaving his teams too well. I know he left the Magic as a free agent to go to LA, but I don’t remember him trashing Penny. I do remember Penny arguing with management about what his role on the team was supposed to be.
I thought he was forced out of LA when Kobe opted out of his contract and threatened to go to the Clippers if the Lakers didn’t chose him over Shaq?
I don’t really know anything about how he left Miami. I know he was hurt and the team was playing terribly. I thought they just decided to go with younger players since they weren’t performing. Did he cause a problem there?
I don’t blame him for leaving Orlando, he ended up winning 3 championships with the Lakers. Kobe basically demanded that Shaq leave LA. I know it was because of their relationship, but it’s not like Shaq asked to leave. And as far as what he said about Kobe, I think Kobe started it when he talked about Shaq cheating on his wife to the media. Him leaving the Heat seemed like it was just management deciding to go in a different direction because Shaq was getting older and they weren’t winning.
Shaq may not be in great shape, but he averaged over 34 mpg until he was 33. There has never been a guy as big and as fast as him. Maybe he’s lazy, but part of it has to be his giant body getting beat up every year.
As far as him being a leader, when I said he led the Magic to the finals, I meant in terms of his performance on the court.
I was a Knicks fan growing up, still am, and I think Walsh and D’Antoni are the best thing to happen to the franchise in years.
I have had Heat season tickets for the last 7 years, am a huge Wade fan, and know a lot of the people in the organization. I really like the way he plays and respect how hard he worked to come back after his surgeries.
I also like and respect the way the Heat run their franchise. From Riley on down, its the best run franchise in terms of treating their fans well, and doing community work, of any of the franchises in South Florida.
Come on now, enough with using other players quotes about Wade to call him the best in the league. I can find similar quotes from Wade calling Lebron and Kobe the best in the league and Kobe calling Lebron the best and Lebron calling Kobe the best. Just because an article came out today where Lebron and Kobe state this, it doesn’t make it a valid argument. All three of these guys respect each other’s games.
So… Joba starts tonight?
Wonder if we’ll see some good stuff out of Igawa?
I miss the stories of Moose’s “window” in the spring training locker room last year.
After Wade’s NBA Finals performance a few years back, he has absolutely nothing to prove. He’s a great player.
I really like Kobe’s “bad boy” attitude… kind of adds to his persona.
when I think Cowherd I think college sports.
NYC in not a big College sports town.
NYC does not want a national take on anything. That’s why Dan Patrick and Mike Tirico were no sucessful.
ESPN is clueless.
What LeBron did with a Cavs team comprised of nobody (Larry Hughes as your 2nd best player) taking them to the finals, is far more impressive than anything Wade or Kobe have done.
It’s too bad Mike Francesa knows nothing about the Yankee Minor League system. When he makes his Joba argument, I always wonder if he’s ever even heard of a guy named Melancon.
D-WADE 2009 MVP
Learn it.
Love it.
Live it.
Francessa did know who Jorge Tabata was, and he wanted to deal him for Arroyo last yr
“It’s too bad Mike Francesa knows nothing about the Yankee Minor League system. When he makes his Joba argument, I always wonder if he’s ever even heard of a guy named Melancon.”
Thats what makes me the most mad the fact that he is so ignorant. He wouldn’t know who Melancon was if he met the guy in person.
my favorite thing about the kellerman show is how much he hated golf and tiger woods and didn’t care about hockey.
and as far as personalities, i’ll take wade over lebron or kobe.
i hated him in the ’06 playoffs, but i think it was just a side effect of my shaq hatred.
Sports talk in this town is deteriorating
First Boomer and Carton were formed
Then Russo left
Now Kellerman is gone
Correction – Kellerman is gone and Cowherd is back
http://waswatching.com/2009/03.....ay-7-2009/
this blogger seems to think that the yanks will find themselves in last place in the al east on may 7.
ummm i dont care if we dont have arod we are still better than the blue jays and O’s so no i dont care what stats you throw at me i just dont see us being in last place.
Cowherd is terrible his voice is horrific, his delivery is cheesy and hes not that sports knowledgeable. I hate that guy Kellerman was the real deal I looked up to him as a broadcaster I hope he gets a good gig elsewhere and burns ESPN.
“this blogger seems to think that the yanks will find themselves in last place in the al east on may 7.”
The keyword there is “blogger” no self respecting journalist would make that prediction. At worst we’ll be in 3rd.
It’s funny how hard Tierney tries to be like Stephen A. Smith.
If we’re in last place through 40+ games because of A-Rod’s absence, then we were not that good to begin with.
“It’s funny how hard Tierney tries to be like Stephen A. Smith.”
Thats sad BT is a decent enough broadcaster where he shouldn’t have to scream and get bent out of shape like Stephen A does.
Steven A. Smith was awful… even worse than Cowherd, Carton, etc. not only was his voice/delivery insufferable, he actually doesn’t know anything other than the NBA.
This thread has completely deviated away from it’s course
We need Betsy to post an article about AJ/CC/Tex/Swisher or something, just to get us talking baseball again lol
“Then Russo left”
a good thing!
it wasn’t much, but francessa’s show gained credibility when that guy left.
I think Francessa’s show lost a ton of juice when Russo left. He is too boring and lacks the creativity needed to carry a show for 5 hours. I find myself flipping to Kay at 2 and staying there for most of the afternoon.
He needs a partner… badly.
Russo was the stupidest guy I’ve ever heard on radio. He hated anything that was popular especially the Yankees. Also the fact that he hated both NY teams annoyed me. Seriously a Giants fan? Yeah I get it you were a fan before they moved boo hoo.
This is a little off-topic from NBA basketball and NYC talk radio, but I came face-to-face with a ShamWow! display and Bed Bath & Beyond last night, and I must admit I was sorely temped. If I had another 20% off coupon, I just might have done it.
Any first-hand testimonials?
did Cashman say anything?
Stephen A. Smith is filled with sensationalism… “Knicks will get Bosh, Wade, AND LeBron!”
vinny – Typical Cashman interview. Sounded a little more upbeat than normal,. but usual generic answers that you would expect
“now that kellerman is gone, the michael kay show is the only show worth listening to. don lagreca is probably the most likeable fellow on radio. richard neer is pretty good too. steve summers use to be good before he got all crazy on the yankees”
at least Steve Sommers seems like a decent person. Very nice person.
So what about the Jets QB situation next year?
“Stephen A. Smith is filled with sensationalism… “Knicks will get Bosh, Wade, AND LeBron!””
lol, no. The way its shaping up we’ll be lucky to get one.
Unfortunately, the physical presence Mussina constructed in the Yankees’ clubhouse last spring — a false window overlooking a poster of a lake, complete with a shelf upon which he placed knick-knacks — is no more, replaced by a large blue “NY” logo.
“I think that was a 20-win window,” Mussina said. “Maybe the Steiner Sports guys took it.”
lmaoo
http://mlb.mlb.com/news/articl.....Id=rss_nyy
steve: thank you, bro
as generic as a Mike Tannenbaum interview? j/k
People are going to appreciate Mussina a lot more now that he’s gone. (And especially when Burnett and Joba are on the DL.)
“So what about the Jets QB situation next year?”
Brett Ratliff. The kid looks like a QB to me. 6’4 225, mobility and a great arm I’m rooting for him in training camp.
What a sad state NYC sports radio is in.
Here I come Hot 97!
“Russo was the stupidest guy I’ve ever heard on radio”
co-signed
and Francessa is a close 2nd.
dang, Netherlands/DR is on at 6:30pm. Same time as NYY
“He didn’t pitch inside because he didn’t have to, not because he was soft. He was able to out-think hitters, he didn’t need to try and bully them.”
pitching in is bullying? i guess girardi and eiland told him to be a bully last year.
despite me saying that i don’t know what to make of mussina, i was happy to see him pitch the way he did last year . of course, i had been saying that he needed to pitch up and in for years.
i agree thinking is good for pitchers. especially when the hitter doesn’t cover the outside of the plate because he THINKING the pitcher might come up and in to him.
it’s rewriting history to make mussina into a great pitcher for the yankees. he was good ,but not great . he had some pretty bad years with them.
Vin -
Do you think the Suns would have won a championship if they had kept the 04-05 core together and they were not cheap? If they had kept Johnson-QRich and kept Nate Robinson, I think they would have won it in 05-06.
Stay away from the ShamWow! Nick. My mother bought one once and it didn’t soak up/dry anything all that great according to her.
The ShamWow guy needs to be medicated
http://images.yuku.com/image/j.....439a74.jpg
Francesa does not even know Francisco Cervelli is…..BTW he is catching now for Team Italy, hopefully he can be our future backup catcher backing up Mr. Jesus Montero.
The Schmoozer gets points for sticking with his Schtick so well – that said i find him hard to listen to. Seinfeld likes him though.
“Brett Ratliff. The kid looks like a QB to me. 6’4 225, mobility and a great arm I’m rooting for him in training camp”
we’re agreeing today.
Ratliff looks like the goods.
Francessa is a shell of himself now… living off the reputation he built up with Russo for 20 years.
I do like how he “handwaves” his callers… like an emperor calling for his subordinates to be executed if they fail to obey him.
Ratliff’s arm is only 2nd to Jay Cutler. The 70 yr bomb to Clowney was beautiful
Now would be a great time for the Baron of Blog to post a player interview.
Update buttface.
Speaking of Clowney, I would love for him to get a long look this year.
“Do you think the Suns would have won a championship if they had kept the 04-05 core together and they were not cheap? If they had kept Johnson-QRich and kept Nate Robinson, I think they would have won it in 05-06″
I do. Regarding Joe Johnson, actually game them a free-pass at the time. As Johnson was no longer happy in Phoenix and may have been a problem.
However, the selling off of draft choices (Nate the Great and others), is another story. Unacceptable
will admit if not for the suspension in the 07 playoffs, they would have taken the title. Thank you Stern. Either way, they had a window to win and Robert Starver ran the francishe into the ground.
correction: i believe they would have (taken the title)
additionally: Phoenix never even got a backup PG. During there playoff runs, Nash would be shot.
Thanks, S.A. You probably just saved me $16.
LMAO Someone just asked Francesa is he “thinking about doing the show topless”.
And why does that ShamWow guy wear a headset? Is taking call or working the drive-thru in between filming commercials?
I almost want to call to see if he answers.
Someone just asked Francesa is he “thinking about doing the show topless”
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LMAO! Good lord. That is something no one wants.
Trevor – lol what did he respond?
I feel sorry for Moose.
Think of the road trip groupies he’ll be missing. Well, atleast he gets to eat all the ice cream he wants.
LOL Saucy.
Its so “camera guy” can follow him… because he can’t do it all day, you know.
I wonder if he wears a bro/man-ziere…
He mumbled something I didn’t quite understand.
the latest from NESPN:
“Smart Sox
Unlike the Yankees, the Red Sox didn’t have to spend $400-plus million on free agents to improve. Boston’s free-agent signings are high on upside, and low on risk.”
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/.....id=3967746
“Boston’s free-agent signings are high on upside, and low on risk.”
and low-probability
I do wish Rocco well, tho
italians down 3-0 to venezuela
As for where Kellerman lands . . . from the moment the news broke well-connected people began warning me to keep an eye on him as a candidate to join Mike Francesa on WFAN. He would bring the younger sensibility Francesa has been looking for, and bring together two volatile personalities.
WFAN operations manager Mark Chernoff did not deny Kellerman is a possibility, nor did he confirm that he is.
http://weblogs.newsday.com/sports/watchdog/blog/
Let’s hope tonight’s game is the final appearance of the spring for Kei Igawa in a major league uniform unless Brian Cashman can pawn him off to an NL team.
last night i dreamt that the yankees won the WS. it wasn’t this magical amazing dream where it was this classic win, it was them winning like 4 games to 1 by a score of 5-0 and the final out being made on a pop up to second. i think it was the dodgers they were playing. the other interesting thing was that in the dream it was apparently the second straight year that they won it. i had a vivid feeling of joy and excitement in the dream. it was reassuring because lately i’ve been wondering if I would actually feel truly excited the next time they win it all, because they’ve won it so many times and i’ve seen them win 4 times in my life already, plus you know that the yankee-hating media would put a lot of negative spin on it. but the feeling in that dream was reassuring. next time they win, i will feel excited. it will be well worth the wait. Go Yanks in 09, number 27!
They didn’t need to spend $400 million to improve because they made it to Game 7 of the ALCS with nothing from Beckett, Ortiz, or Lowell… whereas we missed the playoffs.
Brian from PA
acid is bad for you.
It’s do or die time for Joba tonite… If he gets rocked then expect him in the bullpen this year…
Timmy,
Wouldn’t go that far, but a bad start tonight will certainly open the door a little wider for Hughes to come in and steal his spot.
His manager said he wanted to see some progress. Now he has to show it. This isin’t one of those “working on things” start, he has to show command.
bru
actually i’ve just been drinking
“As for where Kellerman lands . . . from the moment the news broke well-connected people began warning me to keep an eye on him as a candidate to join Mike Francesa on WFAN. He would bring the younger sensibility Francesa has been looking for, and bring together two volatile personalities”
unless they have a gun-pointed to Francessa’s head, i don’t buy it.
his fat ego would not permit it.
It’s do or die time for Joba tonite… If he gets rocked then expect him in the bullpen this year…
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This is such an unbelievably stupid comment.
His issue has been his mechanics. How are his mechanics going to improve by switching roles on him?
Joba is going to be a starter for the duration of 2009. All you short-sighted dimwits, including Francessa, are going to have to accept it.
Hughes will be starting the season in Scranton. Nothing has changed.
I can see it now: The Mike & Max Show.
bobby abreu just cranked one for venezuela. i’m gonna miss him.
Girardi saying he wanted to see some progress in Joba and implying that he’s in danger of losing his spot in the rotation are two completely different things.
Joba in the rotation full-time is not an experiment. The experiment was moving him in the bullpen in the first place.
there’s a guy on Team Italy named Kasey Olenberger? yeah, that sounds Italian…
Mike and Max? I don’t see it but who knows.
I don”t think Mike could stand Max, they are from 2 different worlds- but maybe that’s the thinking.
Don,
I think Francesa/Kellerman would be a fascinating show. I hope it happens.
Fatcessa’s show is pretty bad by himself. With Dog, it was usually at least funny and entertaining. Kellerman is the polar opposite of Francessa- he’s intelligent, open-minded, and “hip”- and I think it would be very, very interesting to see the two of them paired together. However, Mike is a pompus egomanic who will never let that happen because I’m sure he LOVES having his own show. And I don’t see how it would be possible since WFAN and YES locked him up for 5 years…
Francesa and Kellerman show would be interesting. Listening to both their respective shows they both have different opinions on certain things. Which is kind of what you should be looking for when you put 2 host together to do a show. Someone who would always agree with Francesa would make for a boring show.
It would be pretty funny if this ever happened and when horse racing and golf comes around when Francesa is going on and on about it. And Max doesn’t even consider those 2 things sports.
“And I don’t see how it would be possible since WFAN and YES locked him up for 5 years…”
This would not stop Max from joining the show. ESPN let him out of his non- compete clause.
why is it everytime spring gamegame is on tv iwaga has to pitch
I could do without Kellerman.
He often gets into political rants, something that nobody should ever do on a sports talk show, and he’s not really all that smart of a Yankee fan.
He tries too hard to piece arguments together and connect dots that are not always there.
He’s also the guy who tried to compare Melky Cabrera to Bernie Williams and suggested that Dan Giese wasn’t much of a dropoff in production from Joba when he went down last August.
Kellerman may be an unapologetic Yankee fan – but I don’t see him as the brilliant radio host that others on this board do.
“And I don’t see how it would be possible since WFAN and YES locked him up for 5 years…”
This would not stop Max from joining the show. ESPN let him out of his non- compete clause.
It’s not that it would stop Max from joining the show…but it would stop Francessa from letting him join the show…One would think that Mike gets all the revenue from the YES contract and that he would have to share it if/when he gets a partner.
Francesa would be handwaving Max left and right.
He must be the new Billy Mays, Saucy. I saw him doing an infomercial for some other random product too.
Giuseppe Franco
He’s far from perfect. He LOVES to stir the pot.
Defended M. Vick on the grounds of cultural relavatism.
Thinks the Who and Bruce Springstein stink. Comes up with crazy theories and is also an egomaniac. Sometimes he’s too smart for his own good.
I still kinda like him though.
Shred em
fair enough – I doubt they would force Max on Mike though- he’d have to be on board with it. Possible that MFs abscence recently was to meet with Max to see if they could work together.
“Defended M. Vick on the grounds of cultural relavatism”
he loses points there
vinny-b He takes “Devil’s Advocate” way too far sometimes.
Uncle Ellsworth,
I tend to agree with Kellerman on Bruce. I’ve always thought he was overrated. Never understood his appeal.
That said, can’t disagree more with him on The Who.
But you make a good point. He likes to stir the pot and often goes against conventional wisdom.
That’s nice and all – but it often leads to connecting dots that just aren’t there and doesn’t make a whole lot of sense.
Sometimes it’s okay to go with the conventional wisdom instead of making up goofy arguments just to be different.
Brian from PA -
My mom is Italian, my dad is not. I grew up “Italian,” but my last name was very anglo.
And in a very interesting turn of events, I married a guy whose mom is Polish and Dad is Italian, so ended up with an Italian last name after all.
Uncle Ellsworth
Didn’t think Mike’s recent absence could be Kellerman related. But it really makes sense. I just really don’t see Francessa willing to share the throne with anyone, let alone someone who is younger and probably wouldn’t defer to him, like an Evan Roberts type would.
Giuseppe Franco
I agree.
Except for the Bruce stuff (Jersey Boy ya see- it’s in the blood)
Did Max “defend” Michael Vick or was he simply helping to explain the situation? It’s one thing if Kellerman was pointing out the culture vs saying it was perfectly ok for what happened.
I would rather listen to Kellerman than anybody else on the air in NY. Doesn’t mean he’s perfect… just better than the garbage out there.
Does anyone know how the netherlands are playing?There only showing italy-venezuela on espn america…
“And in a very interesting turn of events, I married a guy whose mom is Polish and Dad is Italian, so ended up with an Italian last name after all.”
Doreen,
And here I thought my wife was the only lady out there to marry a man for their last name. Shame on you. My kids are also mixed. If your kids are asked at school what they are, what do they say?
Shred em.
I can’t really see them together either.
Brian Kenny was actually pretty good with Max.
I can’t see Mike understanding half of what Max says.
Not his language but his concepts.
Shred em.
I can’t really see them together either.
Brian Kenny was actually pretty good with Max.
I can’t see Mike understanding half of what Max says.
Not his language but his concepts.
Which joba tonight? Regular Joba or His new Ankiel persona
Roger, Game Day is showing no score through 3 innings.
It is on MLB TV and if you give me your email address, I will send you my account information and you can watch the game over the internet if you want to.
http://stealthshot.tk/
the game.. he’s not showing it all though.. its on now though
Roger-right now it’s 0-0. Going to the bottom of the third.
Here is a gameday link for the game:
http://web.worldbaseballclassi.....t_nedint_1
S.o.S. -
We go with Polish Italian because those are the dominant cultures in our lives. I used to say I was a mutt, because while my mom was 100% Italian, my dad was Hungarian and mixed anglo (English, Irish, we think).
SOS,
my niece and nephews always have to give a short verison when they being questioned what nationality it is. their answer? Cig. Chinese-Italian-Greek. they are only 5 years old. hahas.
sorry for the double post.
Boston Dave. He was really playing Devil’s Advocate hard. Basically saying that if dog fighting is ok in Vick’s southern culture who are we to judge?
Also said that anyone who eats pork is just as guilty as Vick.
“I would rather listen to Kellerman than anybody else on the air in NY. Doesn’t mean he’s perfect… just better than the garbage out there”
yes. At least Max has some semblance of brain-waves. The EEG goes up & down.
and he is funny sometimes. The day he was accusing his mother of running their house like Stalin. And also blaming his parents, for why he’s computer illiterate : )
Doreen,
Latin,indian,arab,black,polish,irish. Ill go with mutt.
94. ok maybe he’s back
So did Joba save his career yet?
JOBA!
Also looks a lot thinner or my television lost weight.
Is the game on Cincy radio????
joba hit 93 and 94..hell be just fine
SoS
That’s a really interesting mix!
Really interesting.
While I can’t see Kellerman with Francessa, it’s just the boost that Mike needs for his show. Now it is overly dry, and I’m sick and tired of listening to Mike’s arrogant opinions without any kind of rebuttal, because any caller that disagrees with him is immediately talked over, hand-waved, cut off, and then belittled and ranted at by the almighty Mike Francessa. Kellerman’s presence alone would make the show 10 times better…
Max is awesome… Francessa would be wise to pick him as a partner. He is not going to find a better one.
He is young and can take over for Francessa when he retires, and thats what he apparently wanted– to develop a younger guy.
Again, there is nobody better. If Mike is ever going to get a partner, it will be Kellerman.
BRETT BRETT BRETT !!
“JOBA!
Also looks a lot thinner or my television lost weight.”
Trish,
Step away from the 19 inch t.v. and go to the 50, tell me what you see. Is he still thin?
Does anyone have a link?
Joba is trying to become more of a pitcher. He doesnt have to blow everyone away. When he hit 94…it was a breath of fresh air…
and gardner is knocking on the door.
Did Cone have anything interesting to say about Joba so far?
Thanks.
melkyisgod is somewhere working on a Brett Gardner voodoo doll
Doreen, and SOS:
at least you guys isn’t a “cig”. and I don’t mean smoking too. lol, I’m Chinese-Italian-Greek.
“He is young and can take over for Francessa when he retires, and thats what he apparently wanted—to develop a younger guy”
Francessa is going to “develop” Max ??
yeah right.
lol
Uncle I don’t see any listed.
Bummer.. a little bad luck killed that inning.
wow thanks trisha but they just started switching between the two games and are now showing the netherlands.But thanks again
Good to see my country playing hard again btw
Joba looks much better than anytime this spring,,,very fluid delivery….
Bob Lorenz sounds great in the booth. How can we get Kay fired? I’m not kidding.
“Trish,
Step away from the 19 inch t.v. and go to the 50, tell me what you see. Is he still thin?”
He he he. Well this one is 42″ and he looks kind of tall and thin. Maybe it’s my resolution set?
Ed – I think that is an awesome combo!
Thanks Trisha
8 pitches! That’s what I like to see.
This ump has a gigantic strike zone but Joba is showing some pretty nice control.
LOL, if anything… Kellerman will develop Francessa.
Brandon Phillips just looked over-matched there.
Trisha,
thanks.
Joba just hit 96 on the gun. Nice.
vinny b,
picked up the show yet? lol
S.O.S.
http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/gameday.....b_nyamlb_1
Ed,
Crazy combo. What does cig stand for? Besides cigarettes.
i think we can say the kid is just fine
Wow ! Joba
well joba fine, that was a nasty curveball
That was Joba saying F U to all the doubters.
He’s Back….
That last pitch -wow. What was that? It was unhittable……
Uncle, are you at work?
Joba in mid-season form now.
Cano SO (swinging) in clutch situation with runners on
Yeah and you know what? Joba is making it look SOOOO easy.
So Joba is back to normal..
wow joba’s nastiness is making me cry
I take no stock in the YES gun whatsoever…propaganda if you ask me. YES has CMW sinkers at 95,96…if ESPN or someone else is carrying the game and I flip, it’s 92, 93. If CMW threw that hard sinker at 95, 96 he wouldn’t get touched.
Francessa is wayyyy too old school for Kellerman. They will hate eachother. Francessa probably doesn’t even know what sabremetrics are.
SOS,
you didnt catch it? **C**hinese **I**talitan **G**reek.
Thanks Trish,
I tried to do what gb said yesterday and put todays date. No luck. Thanks again and make sure you dont watch Joba on a stretched screen.
vin
and francessa wants him as our cleanup hitter lol
Who was it that said they didn’t think Sui could bat cleanup?
I know it wasn’t me!
hey guys, can someone let me know how Joba is pitching rght now (what inning it is, how many hits strikeouts, etc.) I live in Italy its almost 1 oclock here but I’m up seeing if Joba is finally ready to pitch… and what did gardner do???
Matsui is back.
Joba looks nice. He’s getting strikeouts without having to throw a ton of pitches.
Also I liked that the velocity on his fastball was high the last couple pitches, even though they were up in the zone. That basically confirms that he’s not injured and is simply going through the same thing every other starting pitcher is early in ST. He can still throw hard but he’s still trying to get his command perfect.
Ransom is awesome.
Matsui has one of the best LH swings I’ve ever seen…
Coney is worrying me about Matsui’s knees……….but nice to see him put good wood on the bat..and Ransom!
Liam, do you want to watch this on the internet?
Sweet! Another hit for Cody and Matsui scores from 2B.
Alex who?
stuifbergen strikes out cano….
Hit deki
He should be running gingerly… if he hustled at full speed, he would be out for 2 months.
Scratch that – he just said Matsui looked fine – whew.
The pitch that Joba used to K the last guy was either a curve or change-up, it was hard to tell. There was a ton of break which seems like a curve but it broke into the righty which indicates change-up. Either way, it was an excellent pitch.
Also the YES gun is pretty accurate. CMW hits 95, 96 on his 4-seam fastball. 92-93 is on his sinker.
Got it Al. Didnt catch it the first time. Now i need to scrabble what my kids are and come up with a good one as well.
Well im eating crow right now. I came up with the question this morning if Joba struggled would Hughes take the fifth spot. My bad.
Would anyone have the up to date spring training stats for Mark Melancon?
Thanks in Advance.
oh Molina, you should had bunt. :X
“and francessa wants him as our cleanup hitter”
lol
“Ransom is awesome.
”
Hey Ed, I have a creative thought! How’s about Ransom plays 3rd?
HA HA HA HA HA!
Trisha I definatly want to watch this on the internet? where can I?
Trisha – yes at work
I don’t like Bob Lorenz in this role. I like him in his usual spot.
Anthony -
Melancon’s stats are
4 IP, 2 H, 1 R (unearned), 2 BB, 4 K
Everyone email the YES Network at info@yesnetwork.com and request that Lorenz do more games and Kay do less.
They can’t ignore tons of emails.
DO IT!!!
gameday says 13 pitches 13 strikes – is that right?
Trisha,
I don’t mean Cody Ransom is awesome. I mean kiddnapping for money is awesome. lol just kidding.
Liam, give me an email address and I’ll send you my account information. You’ll have to log in
https://secure.mlb.com/enterworkflow.do?flowId=registration.ajax.wizard&c_id=mlb
and then go to the scoreboard
http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/scoreboard/20090310.html
scroll down to the Yanks game and hit the MLB TV icon!
Liam,
Joba is at 2.1 IP, 1 H, 0 ER,0 BB, 3 K. He looked pretty good, threw mostly fastballs with a couple of very good sliders and curveballs. He has also been extremely efficient with his pitch count.
Gardner singled but was doubled up when Damon hit a hard liner to 1B
Joba looking good -letting his defense do the job for him. So far, very encouraging outing from Joba…..
And people thought Hughes was better than this guy and he would be in the minors lol…..
Liam or Ellsworth. If you give me an email address I’ll send you my account information and you can watch the game over the internet.
Ouch -Gardner with a bad play…….
Brett took a weird route to that one…Don’t know if Melky would get there though.
Good thing we dont have to hear about Joba being a disaster tomorrow morning. I know he just let up a run but its spring training and he is working on his 2 seam fastball right now.
flyin brett gardner
Thanks Trisha
I could not get video to stream last year and would rather not mess with it.
Thanks though
grrr
MOOSE!! ESPN HUH
Standing in the hallway outside manager Joe Girardi’s office, Mussina appeared relaxed, wearing an ESPN cap, a Ford Mustang T-shirt, shorts and sandals. Girardi embraced Mussina and asked if he wanted to change into uniform for the day.
I don’t know what Joe was doing leaving him out there for the 3rd… let him leave on a high note….
Does anyone else think Joba’s curveball is an extremely underrated pitch? He’s very good at locating it, and I remember in a game against TOR last year, he got a bunch of K’s on that pitch.
cone makes it sound like thats a routine play for gardner…someone without his speed doesnt get near that ball…tough break tho he definitly could of had it…lets not crucify gardner now
Thanks, Patrick!
Ok, very solid outing for Joba. Too bad about the run, but it’s meaningless – Joba broke out some nasty pitches.
ESPN *and* Ford?!
Oh Moose, how could you?!
Give me that Fillet ‘O Fish
Give me that Fish
Give me that Fillet ‘O Fish
Give me that Fish
Catchy tune.
jeter has been the ford guy for years… i love my ford edge
trevor i was thinking the same thing
I don’t know what Joe was doing leaving him out there for the 3rd… let him leave on a high note….
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Because he has to keep building his arm strength. He had only thrown 19 pitches after two innings.
Petros- Is A-Jax gonna play tonight?
I agree that Joba’s curveball is pretty underrated. He throws it for a strike quite consistently and its pretty nasty. The only thing is it usually seems to cross pretty meaty parts of the plate when it gets there, so if/when batters start to catch on and track the curve better it may lose a bit of effectiveness. Definitely a great pitch though.
I’m unfortunately not near a TV and just Gamedaying, but two lineouts off Joba in that last inning? Were they at least soft liners or totally smoked??
Trevor -
That is called good marketing. Anytime the commercial for Free Credit Report dot Com comes on I always turn the sound off. Otherwise that stupid ass song plays over and over and over in my head.
IMO, Joba’s curveball is better than his fastball. Certainly harder to hit
Gotta get it down Brett.
Gardner’s murdering the ball. Over-aggressive though.
gritty, gutty, out at second
And people think Gardner is an automatic out lol
Where the heck did Liam go?
#1 priority for Gardner should be:
practice bunting. No place for no power, slap-hitter in the MLB, who isn’t proficient at bunting.
That was a good play by Gardner, going for second. Yes, he was thrown out, but it took a perfect play – pivot and throw – by Jay Bruce to just get him. That’s OK, if it takes a perfect play by the D, because not every OF is Jay Bruce and going to get a perfect play.
Nice to see X starting to hit
poor job not gettting the bunt down, good job getting the hit…not a bad idea to try for second
Is it me or does it seem like Gardner has gotten thrown out a lot trying to stretch singles into doubles? I like his aggressiveness, but he has to be a little smarter…
Took a perfect throw to get him….He looks so much better than last season….Good balance and he does a good job keeping his hands back….
Nady with another hit… he’s pretty much locked up the RF job. He was already the favorite going in
Cone and Bob liked Brett’s aggressiveness.
I also like Bob, I vote for more Bob over Kay.
Girardi was clapping hard after Gardner got thrown out… he loves seeing that.
Brett’s confidence is high right now.
vinny,
You didnt get the memo? He’s auditioning for the fourth slot. He leads the team in homers and thinks its only fair to bat cleanup.
If Gardner doesn’t learn to bunt, he is pretty useless. He isin’t going to be hitting like this during the season, he needs to get that bunt down.
Anthony I just remembered you asking.
http://newyork.yankees.mlb.com.....p?c_id=nyy
You can see Melancon’s stats there.
Nady has the RF locked up based on one hit? Hmmm
Melky is going to have to have a Ruthian month to take the job from Gardner…just my .02.
Just getting some gameday in.
How about some love for our dynamic shortstop duo of Pena and Nunez.
Pena has another hit already today.
Both of these guys can play D with anyone on the planet. If they can hit a bit they are legit prospects. If they cannot hit they are really nice utility/back-up players.
For anyone watching some info on how Garcia looks and his velocity would be much appreciated.
“If Gardner doesn’t learn to bunt, he is pretty useless. He isin’t going to be hitting like this during the season, he needs to get that bunt down.”
Yep. As Randy l likes to say Gardner is an embarassment to all short people being that he can’t bunt to save his life.
Only thing I wish Joba would do if further develop that change-up. If he does that he is going to be even more nasty.
Tim Lincecum has a great change-up. Where most of his K’s come from.
I know Gardner can bunt, I’ve seen him do it before. Not in the majors but still. A bunt is a bunt is a bunt, isnt it?
Gardner is actually a very good bunter. But for some reason he just wasn’t able to get that one down.
It was one bunt that he didn’t get down – yesterday he did get a bunt down; I don’t think there’s any doubt that he’s working on this part of his game.
jennifer, when the night started out, I wasn’t enamored of Bob Lorenz in this role, but as the night is going on, I’m liking him more. He’s low key, but I like his voice.
“vinny,
You didnt get the memo? He’s auditioning for the fourth slot. He leads the team in homers and thinks its only fair to bat cleanup”
SoS: LMAO. Good thing i wasn’t eating, when i read that
I agree Gardner needs to get better at getting that bunt down, but I liked seeing him come back from a couple failed bunts and getting a decent hit out of it. So he got thrown out trying for second; his aggressiveness is what makes his game so deadly… pressure that defense every play. I like seeing that in a player – too many players get complacent and don’t hustle out every play; they are much less fun to watch.
It was Nady’s job to lose anyway… and Swisher has done nothing to take it away from him
Not like it matters who starts, both will get their ABs.
Gardner should ALWAYS be able to get down a bunt. His bunting technique is all wrong. Didn’t you hear Lorenz and Cone talking about how unusual his bunting style is.
A bunt for Gardner should be automatic.
Gardner can bunt. He did several times last year.
One word.
Josh Phelps. I hope he continues his hitting tear in the REAL games. But i cant get too excited till then. Call it Phelpsphobia.
Going back to being smart on the basepaths, I like that Joe is giving these guys the green-light just to see what their tendencies are – and I’d much rather Brett (or anyone else) be aggressive than not.
He showed very poor form on that bunt
“Joba wasn’t great but he was certainly much better and he hit 96 on the gun. Major progress tonight.”
Okay what am I missing here? I thought Joba was great.
And much to our dismay Kay will be back in time for the next game.
“I know Gardner can bunt, I’ve seen him do it before. Not in the majors but still. A bunt is a bunt is a bunt, isnt it”
tell that to Luis Castillo and the mets. j/k
Feeble attempt, how can you not be able to drop a sac bunt ???? I’m certain he’ll be out early tomorrow laying them down…
Coke…….that was nasty. I just love the pitching we are seeing the last few games – and I love watching these young guys. It’s exciting to see the many good arms we have in the minors…….
“Okay what am I missing here? I thought Joba was great.”
He was, some people just expect too much on March 10.
raymagnetic- Give a break dude. Its spring training. Its really no big deal that Gardner did not get a bunt down. Its not like he completely whiffed. Maybe his bunting is not into midseason form yet. Everyone reads into meaningless games way too much.
At the game in Tampa, Dellin Betances is sitting down the first base line second level nice kid just signed two balls for me
Form is so overrated in athletics. If form was paramount, Ricky Ledee would be the world’s best hitter, Shawn Marion wouldn’t be able to make a grammar school JV squad, and Philip Rivers wouldn’t be allowed to play QB in gym class. Gardner has a track record of being a great bunter, that time he just didn’t get it down…even the best hitters fail 7 out of 10 times.
“Gardner should ALWAYS be able to get down a bunt. His bunting technique is all wrong. Didn’t you hear Lorenz and Cone talking about how unusual his bunting style is.
A bunt for Gardner should be automatic”
exactly.
he missed one bunt..now the guy can’t bunt…calm down people
“Gardner has a track record of being a great bunter, that time he just didn’t get it down…even the best hitters fail 7 out of 10 times”
excuse me??
not in bunting they don’t. A player who gets a bunt down 30% of the time, is a piss-poor bunter.
I was just saying that a good hitter fails most of the time…if a bunter fails one in a SPRING TRAINING game…what’s the big deal? Look at Gardner’s track record…the guy can bunt just fine.
How can anyone defend a leadoff hitter not be able to drop a sac bunt ??? Spring training or not, it’s fundamentals…Defending him is one thing, but don’t compromise your standards…
Why would a batting champ need to learn how to bunt?
Fail. That would be Homerun King.
Brandon Phillips could’ve walked that ball to first to double up Molina lol.
I just tuned in, what did Gardner and Joba do so far?
Also, not to go off on a rant, but I just don’t get people who think Bruce Springsteen is overrated. I find that most Bruce haters don’t really know that much about his music.
“raymagnetic- Give a break dude. Its spring training. Its really no big deal that Gardner did not get a bunt down. Its not like he completely whiffed. Maybe his bunting is not into midseason form yet. Everyone reads into meaningless games way too much.”
Gardner’s game is based on speed. If he can not bunt that really hurts his overall game.
I know it’s spring training I get it. But you have to be able to bunt regardless and he showed really bad form.
” Form is so overrated in athletics. If form was paramount, Ricky Ledee would be the world’s best hitter, Shawn Marion wouldn’t be able to make a grammar school JV squad, and Philip Rivers wouldn’t be allowed to play QB in gym class. Gardner has a track record of being a great bunter, that time he just didn’t get it down…even the best hitters fail 7 out of 10 times.”
Form isn’t overrated in sports at all. It’s why athletes practice their form. The best free throw shooters and jump shooters have excellent form. Shawn Marion is an exception, not the rule.
If you truly think that form is overrated then I truly think you do not know what you are talking about.
Its one bunt people…go look at how many sac bunts or bunt base hits he had in the minors…and calm down
Is the Netherlands leading the WBC in team ERA?
I’m sure that improving his bunting’s on his list of things to improve on. It’s right above growing a few inches.
“Why would a batting champ need to learn how to bunt?”
m,
Make that homerun champ. Exactly.
Expecting a 100% success rate in bunting, or anything, is unrealistic.
Also, what has Ransom done tonight?
I’m sure Ty Cobb failed on bunts plenty of times in his life. Ray Allen misses a freethrow every now and then. The fact that Brett Gardner didn’t get one bunt down should not be a big deal…his track record proves he’s a more than capable bunter…and he has said he is working on improving that part of his game.
BGNYY – Cool. Did you see batting practice or was it over? I’m going next week and trying to figure out when batting practice is when it is a night game. Thanks.
I’m not sure if this has been mentioned – I don’t even know if it’s worth mentioning – but I wonder how Gardner starting (and, more importantly, Melky not playing every day) will affect Cano.
Might be nothing. They’re all professionals, right? But I wonder if it’s something.
“Its one bunt people…go look at how many sac bunts or bunt base hits he had in the minors…and calm down”
be a man (or woman) and don’t change your screen name
Betsy,
I don’t know. You have to be pretty close to perfect if you want to be the bunting champ.
A Waste Management Scoreboard?
Joe on now – very pleased with Joba, especially the strikes; he saw more intensity from him tonight……
Pete always says that if you don’t like Bruce, you need to see him live.
Last night I had a dream I was at a live Bruce show. I tried my best to enjoy myself, but couldn’t stand it
Phil Rizzutto would have loved Brett Gardner!
“I’m sure Ty Cobb failed on bunts plenty of times in his life”
for a player who struck out 368 times, in over 11,000 plate appearances, i kind of doubt it. Not to mention, Cobb’s game revolved around bunting, taking the extra base, moving runner’s over etc.
keep trying tho.
I’ll remember that when it’s the 8th inning of a 1 run game and he needs to advance the tying run to second….Both attempts were brutal…I like Gardner, but he had problems with bunting last season when he was called up….
Saucy,
Dreams don’t count. You have to see him perform live in real life.
“be a man (or woman) and don’t change your screen name”
huh????????
Melky can’t bunt to save his life. He also can’t run fast. He also can’t take a walk unless the ball hits him.
Just saying…
“For $423 million, the Yankees obviously got some nice pieces,” said one scout. “But in terms of filling needs, I think Boston did just as well, if not better.”
“If Smoltz comes back healthy — and I’d bet on that — he’s their August-September impact guy,” said one scout. “To me, he’s like that ace you trade for at the deadline.”
“I don’t know if they have a weakness,” said one scout.
“I love the chemistry of that team,” said another.
“When you factor in A-Rod and all his issues,” said a third scout, “I think the Red Sox are a good pick to win this thing.”
“I just like the way they added depth and filled their needs,” said one scout, “without spending $423 million.”
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/.....BHeadlines
Why are people making a big deal out of this bunt attempt by Gardner?
Okay, we get it. He didn’t get the bunt down. It happens.
He’s still working on it and making bunts a bigger part of his game. It’s more of a failure on the part of the Yankee farm system that they didn’t spend more time with him bunting in the minors.
he had a bunt hit yesterday. He’s laid down a few bunts already this ST.
Let’s not overreact. He’s will continue to get better.
there is still a spot open in the yankees bullpen..?Go get rob cordemans!lol
if your interested in my name its Mark….any other information I can provide you with Vinny??
True, M – there are so many great bunters in baseball that Brett is simply going to have to up his game if he expects to compete…..He ought to be ashamed of himself tonight.
I’m being a bit facetious – I certainly agree on the importance of Brett being able to lay down a bunt.
joba could pitched the 4h inning oh well
saucy,
Some of us would call that a nighmare.
And hopefully Damon won’t come up in that situation.
At least Brett is trying to improve that part of his game. He’s a smart kid. If he can learn how to drive the ball better, he’ll improve his bunting skills, too.
Stop all the talk about bundts, it’s making me hungry.
saucy -
Are you sure it was a dream? Bruce WAS on live on a PBS station last night (you know – the membership drive stuff?).
“Melky can’t bunt to save his life. He also can’t run fast. He also can’t take a walk unless the ball hits him.
Just saying…”
That’s a straw man’s argument. That may well be true about Melky. Still doesn’t mean Gardner can bunt.
“how can you not be able to drop a sac bunt ????”
Because Brian Cashman is a bad human being.
Here’s a weird one. Pussycat Dolls and Fergie (?) will be performing at the NCAA Final Four.
Clay, if you buy me a ticket, I’ll go see him in real life and give an honest, real life, review.
Deal?
“Why are people making a big deal out of this bunt attempt by Gardner?
Okay, we get it. He didn’t get the bunt down. It happens.”
It’s not the fact that he didn’t get the bunt down. It’s the fact that he looked TERRIBLE trying to bunt.
It’s one thing to miss if your form is good. To look terrible while doing so is another thing.
Coke is getting hit around much easier than he should. His stuff is also not what it was last September…
Joe raving about Tex – how professional he is, how he has fit in perfectly with the team.
Pretty decent 2 innings from Coke……..
One thing at a time fellas. Last year Gardner couldnt hit a ball past the infield. Hell past the pitcher staring at third strike. Thats next on his to do list.
Gardner has the same bunting issues as too many others, including Jeter, does, and that’s knowing the difference between sac bunts and bunting for hits.
Gadner should be shot for not getting that one bunt in a spring training game down. he should be ashamed to call himself a baseball player…..I’m exaggerating but that’s what some of you sound like
Mike Mussina is a multi-millionaire. He takes his family on vacation to Tampa?
GB you saw Cobb play… how good of a bunter was he?
I just saw Pete’s comment about Joba – I thought he was pretty darn good.
It’s not the fact that he didn’t get the bunt down. It’s the fact that he looked TERRIBLE trying to bunt.
It’s one thing to miss if your form is good. To look terrible while doing so is another thing.
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So what? He got a bunt down yesterday and beat it out for a hit.
There’s no question he’s improved his game and approach at the plate since last year.
He’ll continue to improve his game. The more he works on bunting, the better he’ll be at it.
“Why are people making a big deal out of this bunt attempt by Gardner?”
I don’t really think anyone is being unfair.
No one is a bigger Brett Gardner fan, than me. That said, in addition to sacrifice bunts, i would like to see Gardner develop the skill of being able to bunt for a base hit (drag bunt). With Gardner’s limited skill-set, this is almost a requirement. I expect Pat M, and Raymagentic would also agree.
Saucy,
I might have to do that. You would have to do some Bruce homwework before seeing the show, though.
Still 0-0 for the Netherlands vs. DR
Doreen, it’s possible. I had some friends stay over last night. They were watching tv after I went to bed. Maybe they put PBS on. They were friends from jersey.
“Mike Mussina is a multi-millionaire. He takes his family on vacation to Tampa?”
My thoughts exactly. No Caribbean Beach resorts? Fiji? Mexico?
Tampa????
Gardner hit a pop-up! Oh no…doesn’t he know he’s supposed to put the ball on the ground? First the bunt, and now this? I think it’s safe to say it’s Melky’s job to lose;)
Joba didn’t look great, neither did Coke actually. They were fine.
Uncle Ellsworth
March 10th, 2009 at 8:31 pm
GB you saw Cobb play… how good of a bunter was he?
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He was a great bunter. I not only taught Cobb, but, also Bruiser Keeler. That’s what we called Willie growing up.
Gardner also needs to be able to bunt for hits. He needs to improve
“Mike Mussina is a multi-millionaire. He takes his family on vacation to Tampa?”
Exactly. What a bumpkin. I’d be in the Maldives.
Sprinsteen was another one who couldn’t get down a good bunt.
I’m sure Moose’s kids would rather be close to Disney and Seaworld as opposed to anywhere else.
WHat about the Kids!?
Damon!!!! funny
“He was a great bunter. I not only taught Cobb, but, also Bruiser Keeler. That’s what we called Willie growing up”
LMAO
New contest name the next Yankee outing?
Moose has little kids. Fiji and Mexico take a back seat to Busch Gardens, Disney and Sea World which are all within an hour drive of Tampa.
“So what? He got a bunt down yesterday and beat it out for a hit.”
I didn’t see the game yesterday, but how was his bunting technique? Even Shaquille Oneal hit’s free throws every now and again but his form is terrible.
“With Gardner’s limited skill-set, this is almost a requirement. I expect Pat M, and Raymagentic would also agree.”
I do agree. If he’s going to be a Juan Pierre type he has to learn how to bunt better. Bunting should be a huge part of his game.
“GB you saw Cobb play… how good of a bunter was he?”
lol uncle elsworth. The other day you were doing old talk with gb. For a minute i thought you might have been sitting next to GB in that Cobb game. My mistake.
Form isn’t overrated in sports at all. It’s why athletes practice their form. The best free throw shooters and jump shooters have excellent form. Shawn Marion is an exception, not the rule.
If you truly think that form is overrated then I truly think you do not know what you are talking about.
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An great example of what you’re talking about it Manny Ramirez at the plate.
here comes iwaga, there goes the lead
Yeah, I’m sure Moose’s kids will love the plane ride to Fiji lol
Eww Kei Igawa is in. I think will tune in the Knicks right now.
Clay- HAHA I said the same thing!! TAMPA? Why not Italy? Ireland? I guess he loves the Yankees that much! One day out of a week vacation and he goes to the Yankees ST complex. He can’t stay away!
Melky can bunt.
He also is a better outfielder than Gardner. So much for UZR.
Vinny b,,If he could become an effective bunter he’d add 25 hits and become a .300 hitter or very close…This was discussed a great deal this winter and it’s a glaring weakness in his game….But Lord, that was a dreadful attempt to sacrafice…..I like Gardner but man he needs to work on sac bunts first….Get Mickey Rivers away from the track and tutor Mr. Gardner…
What else does Gardner work on besides bunting?
Disappointing that he still can’t do it consistently. If he wants to last more than a couple of months with this team, he has to do better than that.
Igawa looks younger for some reason
Kei Igawa!
Pitching like he knows how to.
Wish if he could do the same thing in the Bronx.
I’m more of a fan of Bruce Stringbean and the S Street Band.
Robbed of a Grammy, IMO
“here comes iwaga, there goes the lead”
Not of course that I feel the need to stick up for Igawa, ha ha, but you might have noticed that he hasn’t given up any runs in spring training?
Mussina could take his kids to Disneyland Paris or something.
Melky can bunt.
He also is a better outfielder than Gardner. So much for UZR.
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Um, no he can’t and no he isn’t.
So far, Igawa’s stuff looks better than most of our other relievers/long men. I know we like to crap on him, but he has outperformed his competitors thus far.
GB
That may be the only time I make a crack at your age – hope you got a smile out of it.
SOS I was in diapers when GB was earning his SN.
geez Brett can’t get down one lousy bunt, and all of a sudden he stinks. All of a sudden Melky can bunt and field. Have you actually watched Melky attempt to bunt? He is awful. And he isn’t that great of a fielder, takes awful routes to balls.
When I was done in Tampa, over the weekend, I was walking by one of the practice fields, and saw a solitary figure, in Yankee pinstripes and blue ST jersey, sprinting, loosening up, completely alone. It was number 29 – Kei Igawa. The approach to that field was chained off, so I couldn’t get closer, but the guy was completely by himself.
It’s sad, for him, the Yankees, and, also, for those who root for the team, that things didn’t work out. Who knows what’s going to happen in the remainder of his contract.
My god it isn’t possible to lay down a perfect bunt every single time up.
Moose can’t win.
I’m sure his kids will get plenty of culture.
wow!!codemans does it again
Melky is a worse bunter than Brett… but he is a far better hitter and has more pop.
Brett has to do things to distinguish himself from Melky who does most things better than him except run.
tear, tear for Mr. Igawa lol
Netherlands – DR still scoreless. Bottom of the 7th now
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Why are these teams having this much difficulty with the Netherlands?
“If he could become an effective bunter he’d add 25 hits and become a .300 hitter or very close…This was discussed a great deal this winter and it’s a glaring weakness in his game…”
Pat: the ironic part is, the same people not placing much of an importance on Gardner being able to bunt for a hit, will be the same ones ripping on him in June for a .325 OBP
That Pro-Red Sox/Anti-Yankee article by Stark (who is a good journalist) was very depressing…
Let’s Go AMSTERDAM!!!!
bunting is like speaking a language. it’s easy to do if you pick it up when young and very difficult to do if you learn it in later life.
a good bunter catches the ball with the bat. it’s just like reaching your glove out to catch the ball. it should be very natural and smooth.
if gradner can’t bunt by now he’s not likely to ever be a good bunter.
Jennifer, no one stated that he sticks…It was just a poor ab, as it revealed that his bunting skills are still below MLB expectations….He’s a much improved ballplayer than he was last summer….Bunting is certainly a glaring flaw in his game…Just an observation….LoHud love him still…
Uncle Ellsworth
March 10th, 2009 at 8:44 pm
GB
That may be the only time I make a crack at your age – hope you got a smile out of it.
SOS I was in diapers when GB was earning his SN.
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What kind of crap is that? You say that you’re not going to make cracks about my age, and in the same post, you make another one.
Not a problem. I’ve written you down in my payback book…right under Randy I’s name. Be afraid….be very afraid.
I’m not saying that bunting is not important..it is especially when it comes to Gardner….but no need to kill the guy cause he missed one bunt in Spring Training..hes been working on it…and the scouts say hes not half bad at it
Uncle Ellsworth
again…Amsterdam is a city and not a country!!!!
LOL @ People going all crazy about a spring training bunt by the potential #9 hitter.
get robbie cano back to the yanks and away from all those clowns on the DR team.
Igawa looked better than Coke did
“No one is a bigger Brett Gardner fan, than me.”
brettisgod wouldn’t have put that extraneous comma there, so I’m saying no.
Montero looks good behind HP.
WHAT AN INNING BY IGAWA!!!!
Just sayin’
What a game between Nederlands and DR!
Just switchin’
GB
Ha! I did not see it that way. Just trying to give SoS the general picture of the age difference.
I’ll sleep with one eye open though.
Uncle Ellsworth
March 10th, 2009 at 8:59 pm
GB
Ha! I did not see it that way. Just trying to give SoS the general picture of the age difference.
I’ll sleep with one eye open though.
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LMAO. Only one eye, huh? You got guts.
Let’s go Netherlands!!
Roger: will you admit that it’s unfair that Amsterdam, Holland, the Netherlands, and the Dutch are allowed to combine their players on a single team?
Is the USA, Mexico, and Canadia were allowed to do that, we’d be unstoppable!
Let’s go Arnhem!
Roger just bustin’ you.
Amsterdam is an Awesome city. I loved the widow washer’s wooden ladders. And the Amstel (not Amstel Light- Amstel)
Love that beer.
“brettisgod wouldn’t have put that extraneous comma there, so I’m saying no”
that was funny Nick
@nick
lol
Lets go Amsterdam!!! Want to see the underdog win
Wow, Igawa strikes out 2 and gets 6 outs on 10 pitches, all of them strikes?
“Is the USA, Mexico, and Canadia were allowed to do that, we’d be unstoppable!”
Nick,
You forgot our 51st state. Puerto Rico.
“will you admit that it’s unfair that Amsterdam, Holland, the Netherlands, and the Dutch are allowed to combine their players on a single team”
oh hellllll. lol.
The Dominicans are playing tight, I have never seen this before, the only loose player is Robi and Hanley, they’ve been robbed of hits in this game.
Netherlands are a few bats away from being a legit contender vs the big WBC teams. Team DR right now is playing scared.
Giuseppe Franco
March 10th, 2009 at 8:43 pm
Melky can bunt.
He also is a better outfielder than Gardner. So much for UZR.
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Um, no he can’t and no he isn’t.
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Right. That guy I have seen, live, running down balls in cavernous center field in Yankee Stadium since taking over for Damon, must have just borrowed Cabrera’s jersey. Here’s the stand-in now.
BTW Giuseppi, the Hollywood heroin, which you are clearly under the influence of during your infomercials, may be a factor in your evaluations of what good outfield defense actually looks like.
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Nick The also recruit heavily in the Low Countries – is it any wonder thay are a powerhouse?
“Wow, Igawa strikes out 2 and gets 6 outs on 10 pitches, all of them strikes?”
I think Joba better watch his back and sleep with one eye open.
Nick,
Did you purposely type Canadia? My 10 year old the other day was pronouncing it that way saying it sounded better. I concur.
I’ll tell ya this is kind of a game for the ages, sort of, well it’s a heck of a game. It’s one of those sweet story games, with the Nederlands unequivocally being a huge underdog from the gitgo, and the DR being a pretty strong team, even without Arod.
And now here we go, still scoreless, into the 9th, and Nederlands being the home team.
You think of all kinds of things, bottom of the 9th kind of things, yeow no matter what.
That would be WINDOW washer’s wooden ladders not widow washer’s.
Uncle Ellsworth
That’s a great hotel!And that’s close 2 te red light district!haha
I agree with the beer!
You where here for pleasure or business?
Roger: will you admit that it’s unfair that Amsterdam, Holland, the Netherlands, and the Dutch are allowed to combine their players on a single team?
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Why is this so unfair?
The most established big leaguer on the entire roster is Sidney Ponson.
The WBC has to at least give some of these teams a chance to compete.
Isnt Ponson the only mlb player they have? Mlb scouts better be watching.
The DR has way too many talented hitters and the Netherlands can’t hit. DR will scratch across a run eventually and win the game.
Netherlands remind me of the Angels on defense it’s just amazing what they have done w/ the glove.
Scouts say that Gardner is a good bunter. He had a bunt single yesterday.
Amstel is garbage. Try Jupiler or Hertog Jan.
lol @ Tavarez
“The DR has way too many talented hitters and the Netherlands can’t hit. DR will scratch across a run eventually and win the game”
wow. You’re a genius
If Andru Jones had played, the NEDS would have scored in this game. He would hit one out of the park– they need all the offense they can get.
S.o.S.: yes, I did. And I also purposely left the Flems and the Walloons out of my joke because its premise would be undermined if anyone from Belgium was included.
Duncan making a case to make the team as a 25th man…
Hahaha, how did I know Shelley was gonna jack one?
Shelly Duncan just went Yahtzee for those people who turned to the WBC game and are no longer watching the Yanks……
I feel like Adam Dunn from the other night. I’m not checking for a pulse in my neck, but this is the kind of game that is so nervewracking! And I have no dog in this hunt!
‘If Andru Jones had played, the NEDS would have scored in this game. He would hit one out of the park—they need all the offense they can get.’
Nope, he wouldn’t even make it on the roster, the talk in D.R. was he quit. He’s fat, he’s lazy, and has a longer swing than Kevin Maas.
reyes gets on base with 2 outs in the 9th. moises alou is coming up. do they let reyes steal?
AJax had a nice RBI single before that as well with runners on the corners….
Shelley has two chances of making this team
Slim and None
He is not even on the 40 man roster and we saw what he could and could do last year
Alou always gets big time hits, he is a winning player
Let Reyes steal then he can score from 2nd
Gotta have Reyes on the move here 0-2.
Roger
Pleasure – but not THAT kind.
Funny Story:
me my bro and I were walking along a canal. And when we go to the end he said “wow that was nice”
I said “just a canal the city is full of them”
Then he pointed to all the girls selling their wares in the windows.
Ah! I said “I see what you mean.”
If it is true that Moises Alou used steroids, and if you believe in karma, then the DR will not score in this inning.
Just presenting some out of the box thinking here.
YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Moises Alou is the same age as my father.
CONO ! They are knee deep in fire right now.
“I feel like Adam Dunn from the other night. I’m not checking for a pulse in my neck, but this is the kind of game that is so nervewracking! And I have no dog in this hunt”
I know. Between the 2 games, it is baseball heaven
Garcia now on the bump for the Yanks for those interested…
jennifer
March 10th, 2009 at 8:45 pm
geez Brett can’t get down one lousy bunt, and all of a sudden he stinks. All of a sudden Melky can bunt and field. Have you actually watched Melky attempt to bunt? He is awful. And he isn’t that great of a fielder, takes awful routes to balls.
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Jennifer, if Melky couldn’t field, he never would have held up in centerfield for nearly 3 years. People, please learn the game. No one is calling Cabrera the second coming of Mantle or even Bernie, but to say he can’t field is just embarrassing for you.
He does not take “awful routes to the ball.” He actually gets decent reads. If he took “awful routes to the ball” he’d have to have Henderson-like speed to get to just about anything hit in Yankee Stadium. Henderson, for example, did not get good jumps, and spent a lot of energy running around under the ball. Melky is much quieter, and doesn’t HAVE the blinding speed to make up for the mythical bad route-running you attribute to him.
He is a very good defender. You can’t just take a bad offensive year, and perhaps a limited ceiling as a hitter, and conflate it to all other aspects of a player’s game, because it suits your personal like or dislike of a player. He is a very good outfielder; do you understand how quickly Yankee Stadium center field exposes a center fielder who takes “awful routes to the ball?” Why do you think a player as great as Bernie was defensively declined so quickly? Because the place spares no one and cruelly exposes the slightest decline in a hurry.
Garcia is pitching for the Yankees FYI
Garcia pitching (not Freddy and he’s easily throwing 92)
“If Andru Jones had played, the NEDS would have scored in this game. He would hit one out of the park—they need all the offense they can get.”
Did you mean before the 07 Jones?
What they need is bunt specialist to squeeze a run in. I heard Gardner is park Dutch.
moises alou is so old that he dated moses’ sister…
Christian pitching
SO
Nasty pitch by Garcia
nice change up
people can say whatever they want about cash but the fact of the matter is that we replenished our farm system with ALOT of young talented arms.
Nice change there by Garcia to get the K. FB at 92, change at about 84.
“I know. Between the 2 games, it is baseball heaven”
Oh yeah!
olympic rules – if it’s tied after 13 innings, then each team starts the inning with 2 runners on and no outs from that point on. funky.
Something good about the Nederlands winning would be Robby coming home and starting to get used to playing with Tex.
reyes error – typical mets choke job…
we got a man on base haha
‘I know. Between the 2 games, it is baseball heaven’
What heaven, my team is about 1 R away from elimination, CONO JOSE !
….this isn’t heaven on this side.
Great irony is Reyes booting a ball.
Uncle Ellsworth,
We were on a similar canal/block when I went to Amsterdam with my family when I was 14 or so. My dad took his camcorder out, and was asked by a man on a stoop if his camera knew how to swim.
Another nice change for Garcia for the K……
Randall Simon was/is a MLB player too… He’s the guy that beat down the Bratwurst.
Reyes error
C’mon Amsterdamn… lets send this party to Miami…
Garcia looks awesome… just stay healthy
Meh, Reyes had a very tough play with a speedy runner.
Uncle Ellsworth
It’s not a big deal here but tourist love it.But i agree that it’s the best looking canal in the city..haha
Garcia looking good..yankees are loaded with good up-coming arms =)
Jose tira a primera !
You heard it here first: Garcia or Hughes will be the fifth starter next year.
I’ll admit it. I was worried about Joba being hurt (actually hiding an injury) after his first two performances this ST.
If the worst thing that happened tonight is Gardner not getting a bunt down – I’ll take it!
saucy – funny
YOu wouldn’t want to start an international incident.
Garcia has a filthy arm. If he stays healthy, he should fly through the minors
How is Garcia’s velocity? Is he throwing easily.
It was down from pre-surgery last year.
He can be one of the top young arms for the Yankees if he stays healthy – and yes that includes Joba and Hughes!!!
“CONO JOSE !”
How did that past the filters? Maybe it was waiting for the enyea.
Brandon, in true me fashion I will feel sad for whatever team loses, especially in a game like this.
But I would love to see the Nederlands because I love an underdog story.
Garcia and Hughes will be a great competition for the 5th spot next year.
extra innings!
Jesus at the plate….
Inside out base knock through the hole to RF.
It was a jam shot, not hit very hard.
saucy
They don’t like that no.
You can have sex with the girl but you cannot take a picture…haha lol
what level Garcia is heading to begin the season?
Sos ‘dammit’ can get past any filter…:x
What if they run out of pitchers during this WBC game? Do position players pitch?
Ed,
AA
Man, Montero really isn’t THAT big. Not bigger than Mauer or VMart. His size won’t be what prevents him from being a C. His feet, maybe, but it won’t just be his size.
Garcia’s going back to AA. Kid has the best curveball in the system and probably the best stuff period. All he has to do is stay healthy.
If Garcia stays healthy he would finish the year in AAA. Despite starting in AA this year I think he’s a bit ahead of Hughes with his stuff. He already has a plus change-up. And better movement on his FB.
This is not meant to diss Hughes but Garcia has a better arm.
Montero doesn’t look as lumbering and slow as people made him out to be…
You guys know the crazy rules that come into play if this goes to 12 or 13 innings
Oh no doubt Trevor, Garcia has a better arm than Hughes. The fact that he already has a plus changeup just furthers that.
Eric, thanks dude.
Shelley should run into the outfield and take out Goomes.
Pena has opened a few eyes not only with his glove, but, with his bat control. He could be an emergency callup, like Alberto Gonzales was. He’s been a real surprise.
Miguel please just once for me.
Trevor
March 10th, 2009 at 9:31 pm
If Garcia stays healthy he would finish the year in AAA. Despite starting in AA this year I think he’s a bit ahead of Hughes with his stuff. He already has a plus change-up. And better movement on his FB.
This is not meant to diss Hughes but Garcia has a better arm.
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He really does. People just don’t know about him because of the TJ, the knee, etc. You hold your breath when he pitches, but then your jaw just drops because he’s nasty with insane command, when he’s right. He’s not near his true velocity yet but the FB has such an explosive tail that it almost doesn’t matter. When he’s back up there, though, look out. Knock on wood he stays healthy.
Guillen will hit a 2 run shot.
I don’t think it is completely out of the question that we see Garcia in NY. On the 40 man he will at the very least get a Sept. call up. At least so far, Hughes seems to have stepped up his game this year. You have Joba, Wang, CC, and AJ all in or coming in to their prime. You have Hughes, Garcia, Macallister, Betances all within about 1-3 years. There is going to be some serious competition, quantity and quality for the pitching staff in the coming years. It will work itself out, but this is a special group of arms.
Montero is going to be tremendous. He has shown, in a very limited sample (last year and this) tht he is not overmatched at this level with the bat.
If nothing else, teams are getting good looks at some of the arms like Claggett and Garcia, for mid-season trades.
Ball don’t find glove please !
I still think the Nederlands will get out of this without giving up any runs.
I hope my feeling is right…
GreenBeret7
March 10th, 2009 at 9:35 pm
Pena has opened a few eyes not only with his glove, but, with his bat control. He could be an emergency callup, like Alberto Gonzales was. He’s been a real surprise.
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Pena improved as a hitter last year. I would love for him to steal the UIF spot.
Cano is up, 1st and 2nd, for those who care.
Robi
Uh Oh Netherlands
I was awed by Garcia’s stuff. Even more so because his velocity was down but he was still making them look foolish.
He isin’t going to be under the radar for long. Not with that arm. Already has a change-up and clean easy mechanics. All he needs to do now is get innings.
I could see him dethroning Hughes for the ’10 spot.
GreenBeret7
March 10th, 2009 at 9:38 pm
If nothing else, teams are getting good looks at some of the arms like Claggett and Garcia, for mid-season trades.
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I seriously doubt we’d deal Garcia, GB7.
Brandon,
In some latin countries its an F-bomb. The filters must have your definition. Ill make sure to use it from time to time.
You do not trade an arm like Garcia, period.
“Pena improved as a hitter last year. I would love for him to steal the UIF spot.”
same here. he **needs** to hit. :X
wow
Cono ! he just missed it !
Cono ! he just missed it !
Yeah… trade Garcia who has among the best stuff in the system and could be a front line pitcher who makes the rotation as early as next year.
Not a smart idea.
Wow Claggett looking good. So far the only piece of that Sheffield trade that is working out.
yeah baby!!
Claggett has great moving stuff. He may be the best arm from the Detroit trade.
Please, there are definitely scenarios where you trade an arm like Garcia. Build a package around him and others for Hanley Ramirez? Yes please!!
iveironfromfenway
March 10th, 2009 at 9:37 pm
I don’t think it is completely out of the question that we see Garcia in NY. On the 40 man he will at the very least get a Sept. call up….
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Not at all out of the question. As another poster has pointed out, he already has the plus change and a full arsenal. He’s ready to go – he just needs to stay healthy and be given an opportunity. He can get out ML hitters right now.
CC
Wang
Burnett
Joba
Hughes
Garcia
Which one of these 6 will not be in the rotation plans come mid-2010?
Wow
Good luck Damaso and don’t hit anyone.
Marte is in
rodg12
March 10th, 2009 at 9:42 pm
Please, there are definitely scenarios where you trade an arm like Garcia. Build a package around him and others for Hanley Ramirez? Yes please!!
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Marlins are stacked in young arms. They’re not giving us Hanley for Garcia, lol.
Nice range by AJax there. Clagget left that one up, but AJax went and got it.
Clagget could be a very interesting piece of this pen.
Guys like Albaladejo, Edwar etc. are going to be buried very soon when these better guys start coming along this year, if they are not already.
How are the Yankees going to make room for all the Starting pitching, we have so many young arms and with CC and A.J both having contracts for 5 years or more..What do the yankees do? and i think CMW is a free agent next year….
bodhisattva
March 10th, 2009 at 9:39 pm
GreenBeret7
March 10th, 2009 at 9:38 pm
If nothing else, teams are getting good looks at some of the arms like Claggett and Garcia, for mid-season trades.
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I seriously doubt we’d deal Garcia, GB7.
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NYY has a ;ot of kids just like him, and, they can’t keep all of them. He’s nearly out of options, and has a long history of arm issues. Yeah, if it was in the right deal, I’d consider moving him. He’s not a throw-in.
great play by a-jax to end the game…good win!!
Scott,
Add Macillister, Betances and Heredia – because by mid year 2010 they will be knocking on the door. BY mid year 2011 you have Banuelos, Brackman, Marshall and Mitchell to deal with.
Wish it wasn’t Damaso because it hurts to root against him.
I am going to predict that a Nederlands hitter jacks one out in the bottom of the 11th. If neither team has taken the game by then, I’m turning it off because seriously this is too nervewracking for me. This is what I always call puke material at this point (I’m not a fan of extra innings)
CC may opt out after 3 years. Joba may sure he doesn’t have the durability to be a starter. Burnett might be injured off and on like he has been his entire career. The Yankees may not want to re-sign Wang in 2011. Hughes may not be the ace we all thought.
And you never know if guys like Brackman or Betances will ever get their control together and pan out.
You can never have enough pitching. Trading a frontline starter like Garcia who is so close to the majors is dumb.
Hanley Ramirez would be a perfect fill in for DJ at SS in 2-3 years but don’t know how realistic that would be
Marte gave up a single to this Netherlands offense? Cut him!!
you think these players don’t care??
(mike francessa and others)
bodhisattva -
Of course not. Just throwing that out there as a case where you’d definitely trade Garcia for all the folks saying he was untouchable.
‘Wish it wasn’t Damaso because it hurts to root against him.’
I’m rooting for him and find it hard to breathe here. And like that he gets out of it.
at some point they are going to put runners on 1st and 2nd to start the half inning
Oh no player is untouchable. Heck, I’d give up Hughes for Hanley Ramirez.
Marte is really good.
lets go netherlands
I forgot about those crazy rules, if by the 13th inning this game continues, the rules are the inning will begin w/ runners on 1st and 2nd for each team. Like sudden death w/ RISP
Garcia’s changeup was straight nasty. It looked plus-plus tonight. He was favoring it actually.
Once he gets that pre TJ velocity back, he is going to cruise to NY if he stays healthy.
GreenBeret7
March 10th, 2009 at 9:45 pm
bodhisattva
March 10th, 2009 at 9:39 pm
GreenBeret7
March 10th, 2009 at 9:38 pm
If nothing else, teams are getting good looks at some of the arms like Claggett and Garcia, for mid-season trades.
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I seriously doubt we’d deal Garcia, GB7.
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NYY has a ;ot of kids just like him, and, they can’t keep all of them. He’s nearly out of options, and has a long history of arm issues. Yeah, if it was in the right deal, I’d consider moving him. He’s not a throw-in.
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We have a lot of impressive, raw arms, but Garcia has no rival when it comes to upside and already completely developed secondary stuff. Betances and Brackman may move quicklyarms, but Garcia is ready now with front-of-rotation stuff. I’ve seen this kid live and he’s not just an arm, he’s a pitcher. And he can crank it up to 97 when he’s right.
K-Zone
March 10th, 2009 at 9:52 pm
Garcia’s changeup was straight nasty. It looked plus-plus tonight. He was favoring it actually.
Once he gets that pre TJ velocity back, he is going to cruise to NY if he stays healthy.
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For sure and let’s not forget this guy’s command of stuff. He’s just phenomenal, and a kid with an edge, too.
Take 2B please ! my god just do it Jose !
bod – agree 100%. Garcia is unmatched, upside wise except by the likes of Betances and Brackman. And those guys are not anywhere close to as polished as him. Heck, he is the same age as Brackman too.
Nobody is untouchable, but he is as close to it as you can get.
FINALLY !
nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
don’t celebrate too hard DR. It took a misplayed ball, for you to even score
Oh man. Didn’t want the run to score that way for either team if it was going to happen…..
I thought Kinsale had it.
How old is Garcia ???
‘don’t celebrate too hard DR. It took a misplayed ball, for you to even score’
We needed that
hate 2 loose this way…
Garcia will spend the entire year as a 23 yr old…
Had Garcia not gotten hurt so much he would be in the majors by now. His stuff is ML ready now. He just needs innings before he gets to the majors.
I expect him to finish the season in AAA. Baring an injury of course.
Garcia is 23. Turns 24 in August.
I know Brandon. lol
Garcia turns 24 in August.
LETS GO NED
woooo come on netherlands!!!!!
Marmol para jodiendo
Roger, if they don’t come back I only hope that at some point they can really feel great about what they did in this tournament.
Garcia has been in the minors since 2004 and 5 innings of pitching above A ball. 4 years of pitching, minus one year lost to surgery and he has 265 innings pitched. Until he gets his control harnessed, he’s got a lot of work to do. I didn’t say give him away, but, he’s not that close and under options rules, he’s running out of time. A great arm, but, I don’t see him pitching in the bullpen (not with his injury history) at he fits in the immediate future.
Oh wow!!!! Come on Dutch!!
Roger Havn’t you heard
“it ain’t over ’til it’s Over”??????
Marmol stop messing around here !
man on second no out
I was watching Court TV when I posted that. I didn’t know Ned had gotten a double. Wow.
Come on Netherlands!!
is that Sammy Sosa pitching?
Dutch Courage!
we still alive!!!!!!
He’s older than Phil Hughes…Now that’s a great leap of faith guys…Hughes has thrown a 7 inning no-hitter, has won a playoff game….And hasn’t surrendered a run yet this spring…Garcia looks good, but he’s going to AA maybe ….I too like what little we’ve seen of him, but comparing him and even suggesting that he’s better than Hughes is crazy at this point….Better arm, better stuff…Give him some time….
come on netherlands, walk off
They just announced Marmol hasn’t warmed up from a mound since 2 days ago because the Cubs told DR not to warm him up…Marmol stop messing around, buen play Jose please 2 more !
dammm good play by Reyes
the Red Sox calling the kettle red (saying they want a salary cap):
http://mlb.mlb.com/news/articl.....8;c_id=mlb
suicide?
Mama mia! This is so one for the baseball gods and possible karma. Kingsale at bat…
“suicide?”
please no. it’s just a game.
Correction: ***so, where does he fit in the immediate future***
He tied it up, he tied it up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
yeahhhhhhhhhhhh
And this is one of the moments when I tear up!
Woooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!
Goaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaal!
Thankfully, Cashman is smarter than the fans here who want to trade Garcia.
He knows the value of good young pitching. Arms like Garcia’s do not come along often.
Kingsale get a reprieve!
Oh baby. What is Marmol doing????? Winning run on 3rd now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This is what happens when you put a Cub in a big situation.
The Cubs are using this guy as their closer?
love my country!!! so proud!!
What a game!
AMSTER DAMN!!!!!!!
these games don’t matter.
yeah right
THIS
IS
UNBELIEVABLE
A-List
March 10th, 2009 at 9:57 pm
bod – agree 100%. Garcia is unmatched, upside wise except by the likes of Betances and Brackman. And those guys are not anywhere close to as polished as him. Heck, he is the same age as Brackman too.
Nobody is untouchable, but he is as close to it as you can get.
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The other guy who could be a meteor is Banuelos, who has one of the best changeups in the system already and he’s still, like, 17. He’s also enjoying a spike on his FB. I’m more excited about him than Bleich.
come on netherlands!!!!
YESSSSIR
The DR deserve to lose… they should not be in this life or death situation against the Dutch. C’mon, this is embarrassing.
why not bunt??!
Cano back with the Yankees on thursday?
There is no excuse here they are literally trying to choke this game away and Marmol is , how is the great Cub CL scared of Randall Simon
should have left in Marte
now de caster.His father was my coach here in holland so pleassssssse get that run!
lol@marmol
3-1 count. Here comes the FB.
Gets by Buckner memory for you……………………..
OH MY GOODNESS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
UN
BE
LIEV
ABLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
RGR (get Figgins)
March 10th, 2009 at 10:12 pm
Cano back with the Yankees on thursday?
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prophet.
wow!!!!!!!!!we dit it!!!i believe!!hahaha
greatest non-MLB game i’ve ever seen
One of the greatest upsets in baseball history.
Wow, what an amazing game. Congrats to the Netherlands.
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
wow !!!
Well, GI Joe doesn’t have to worry anymore about Robbie and Tex getting their timing down in the infield together.
Now I am crying for real.
It wasn’t a jack, but I did say Ned would win it in the bottom of the 11gth.
And let me tell you what makes me happiest of all. So many Yankee fans here absolutely trashed Sidney Ponson last season. I am so happy for Sidney.
CONGRATS Roger!!!!
Whatawaytolose.
YES!
Congrats Netherlands!
well of course, it’s all Alex’s fault.
That is awesome. I can’t stop laughing.
When did Billy Buckner become a Dominican?
I guess unlike the Yankees, the DR is NOT better off without ARod
Sidney Ponson spits on the WBC favorites
that is fun to watch.
WE WON THE FN GAMEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Get your butt back here Cano
Trevor
March 10th, 2009 at 10:16 pm
Gets by Buckner memory for you……………………..
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Lol. Buckner’s was worse, though
That was kinda cool. My sympathies though, Brandon.
IT AIN”T OVER TIL ITS OVER
ITS OVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
thank you people!cannot believe this!yurendell you’re my boy!
Congratulations Roger!!!!
We who love the game of baseball share in your pride.
It is Arod’s fault. You know they could of used his offense.
Well I had no tourint interest other than I have been to Aruba, Curacou and Amsterdam and never to the DR but that was a great game and for a team that had so much promise must be a HUGE letdown for them.
Welcome back to Yanees camp Robbie and Damaso
can someone describe the last play? I was just watching on Gameday… didn’t see it.
thanks.
there could be a problem with sidney celebrating. when is the next game ?
Angel there is nothing I can say, I knew it was over as soon as he was walking Randall Simon. I mean, Randall Simon why is Marmol ? hats off to the Dutch I said they reminded me of the Anaheim Angels and there it was, just WOW.
randy shame on you!
Tomorrow is their next game, in Miami.
Boston Dave, it happened real fast but it looked to me like the ball bulleted past the first base line and skipped into the outfield.
first report….sidney is smoking something he brought from amsterdam
It’s hard to believe that this young upstart team from Michael Jackson’s ranch could take down the powerful DR.
Go Neverland !!
Trevor
March 10th, 2009 at 10:20 pm
It is Arod’s fault. You know they could of used his offense.
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Forget ARod. Manny would have sealed the deal innings ago.
dave.
the ball deflected off aybar’s glove and towards the dugout area. it looked like a pretty easy play
randy l.
March 10th, 2009 at 10:21 pm
there could be a problem with sidney celebrating. when is the next game ?
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Sleep well, tonight, Randy I. My mind is working overtime. Even with your National Guard protecting you, you’re not safe.
Yeah Brandon, sorry for you in all of this.
A good thing though is Robbie will be back and start to practice DPs with Tex.
Hey, if history happened differently we’d all be rooting for the New AMSTERDAM Yankees.
“the ball deflected off aybar’s glove and towards the dugout area. it looked like a pretty easy play”
Yeah abdul, well basically the same thing.
Boston Dave, MLB TV network has highlights on right now.
I know, but it still kinda sucks to lose it like that.
Now, if only the Australians could pull an upset like that on the Cubans, lol.
It definitely sucks to lose like that. That’s one of those games where both teams deserve to win it, if you know what I mean.
Sir Sidney won’t be the only baseball player who can put “Sir” in front of his names now. Awesome win.
wow crazy game; one of the grittiest teams I’ve seen, Go Nederlands!
WOW.just wow!
Does anyone know if you can add players in the next round??
Jurrjens please!And maybe Andruw likes to party with sidney in miami…??
It’s still hard to root for Sydney with the Natalie Holloway case still unsolved, but congrats to everyone in the Dutcherlands.
Sad thoughts for Arod’s mom.
nick
that’s funny!
Roger, you’re a good sport, congrats for real. I’ve been to Amsterdam 4 times, I love it there.
Thanks Nick.
4 times?Wow you must like it.That’s a good thing to hear
Does Max like the Giants or Jets?