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Spring Game 25: Tigers at Yankees

Posted by: Peter Abraham - Posted in Misc on Mar 21, 2009 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

YANKEES
Cabrera CF
Damon LF
Teixeira 1B
Matsui DH
Nady RF
Cano 2B
Ransom 3B
Molina C
Berroa SS

Pitching today: Joba Chamberlain followed by Mariano Rivera, Edwar Ramirez and Jose Veras.

TIGERS
Inge 3B
Polanco 2B
Sheffield DH
Thames LF
Larish 1B
Laird C
Clevlen RF
Raburn CF
Everett SS

Pitching today: Rick Porcello followed by Zach Miner, Clay Rapada and Fernando Rodney.

Notes: Now this is a fun game. Porcello is the 20-year-old former Seton Hall Prep star who was a Top 3 talent in the 2007 draft but fell to No. 27 because of signability issues. The Tigers snapped him up there and signed him with a $7.29 million deal. He was 8-6, 2.66 for Single-A Lakeland last season and could be in the major league rotation this season.

Joba is coming off two solid starts and should be able to go about four or five innings depending on his efficiency with his pitches.

The game is on WCBS but not on YES. Back with much more later on. The Yankees have won eight straight.

UPDATE, 9:58 a.m.: Looks like Phil Hughes, Jason Johnson and Humberto Sanchez are headed out.

UPDATE, 10:33 p.m.: Crazy Nick Swisher was limping around but took some BP this morning and said he felt OK.

UPDATE, 10:40 p.m.: Here’s a little breakdown on Joba’s spring training:

First two starts: 1 4 7 7 4 1. 49 pitches / 22 strikes (.448)

Last two starts: 6 5 1 1 1 6. 77 pitches / 47 strikes (.610)

Today should be interesting. He threw 48 pitches in his last outing, so he will be cleared to throw 60-65 today. Now is also the time you would expect his velocity to pick up and gain some consistency.

UPDATE, 10:52 a.m.: Here are the moves made today:

Optioned to Scranton: Anthony Claggett, Steven Jackson and Phil Hughes.

Optioned to Trenton: Humberto Sanchez.

Reassigned to the minor-league camp: Jason Johnson and Sergio Mitre.

Players left in camp: 43.

UPDATE, 11:06 p.m.: Hughes had a very positive spring. Counting his appearance against Team USA, he had a 3.00 ERA over 15 innings and allowed only eight hits. He walked seven and struck out 10.

Assuming he continues to pitch well, he’ll be first in line when the Yankees need a starter during the season. Hughes showed a much sharper curveball and more confidence in his change-up. I’ve written this a million times, but he’s 22. You’re seeing him take the steps to become a complete pitcher and it’s a good bet that he will help the Yankees this season.

UPDATE, 11:35 a.m.: Watching some BP on Field 2. Cody Ransom has power than you might think. That’s my observation of the day.

UPDATE, 11:50 a.m.: Now I’m watching Tony Pena use a pitching machine to shoot bouncing balls at Jorge Posada. It looks painful. Joe Girardi is watching and seems to be having fun.

The catchers stick together.

UPDATE, 1:02 p.m.: Talked to Swisher again. He took BP on the field and did some running. “I’m playing tomorrow,” he said. We’ll see what Girardi says about that later on.

UPDATE, 1:20 p.m.: General David Petraeus, the head of U.S. Central Command, threw out the first pitch. He was accompanied by Goose Gossage and Ron Guidry. Jorge Posada caught the ball.

UPDATE, 1:22 p.m.: We’re underway here in Tampa. Hope you’re somewhere where you can listen to Suzyn and John on the radio.

UPDATE, 1:28 p.m.: 1-2-3 inning for Joba. Inge struck out swinging, Polando flew to left and Sheffield lined to left, a ball Johnny Damon made a nice sliding catch on.

Joba fell behind 3-0 on Sheff, came back to 3-2 before Sheff fouled a few pitches off. Then he hit one of his trademark liners to left field but Johnny had him played well.

UPDATE, 1:35 p.m.: Young Porcello seems lost somewhere in the swamps of Jersey at the moment. Melky had a little dink double over the third-base bag. Damon advanced him with a grounder to second. Teixeira then walked.

UPDATE, 1:37 p.m.: Well, he’s a top prospect for a reason. Porcello struck out Matsui with a breaking pitch then got Nady to ground meekly to first base.

UPDATE, 1:46 p.m.: 1-0 Tigers. After striking out Thames with a wicked curveball, Joba allowed three straight singles. The first one (by Larish) was a grounder than got past Cano in the hole. Then Laird and Clevlen had solid shots to center. Raburn delivered a sac fly to right.

UPDATE, 1:56 p.m.: Joba fanned Everett to end the inning. 1-0 Tigers.

UPDATE, 2:08 p.m.: Joba struck out two more in the third inning He has really great stuff today, especially his secondary pitches.

I have him at 55 pitches after three innings, however. 38 of them have been strikes. If he goes back out there, it won’t be for long.

UPDATE, 2:16 p.m.: Angel Berroa singled, went to second on Melky’s groundout and just scored on Johnny Damon’s double to right. 1-1.

Angel was telling us some great stories before the game about playing with Rabbit Maranville back in the day.

UPDATE, 2:17 p.m.: Glory days, they’ve passed Porcello by as Tex doubles and it’s 2-1 Yankees. Porcello has been lifted and Clay Rapada is pitching.

UPDATE, 2:29 p.m.: Joba retired the first batter he faced in the fourth inning and was pulled. I have him for 60 pitches but I could be off by a couple.

His last three starts: 9.1 innings, 9 hits, 2 earned runs, 1 walk, 11 strikeouts.

You’d like to see him have some shorter innings but that will come with experience. Joba gives up a lot of foul balls, a sign he needs to finish hitters off.

UPDATE, 2:37 p.m.: Johnny Damon (yes, Johnny Damon) threw out Laird at the plate to end the fourth inning. Solid throw by Johnny and a great block of the plate by Molina.

UPDATE, 2:39 p.m.: Joba threw 61 pitches in his 3.1 innings, 41 strikes. His last three starts: 138 pitches, 88 strikes.

UPDATE, 3:05 p.m.: Mariano Rivera in to pitch the sixth inning. It’s weird seeing him to come in while they’re playing YMCA.

Speaking of which, I have a bad feeling that the lame YMCA bit will be taken over to the new Stadium. They really need to change the script.

UPDATE, 3:09 p.m.: Mo gave up a hit. Stop the presses. He had retired eight in a row before then.

UPDATE, 3:14 p.m.: Rivera needed a stunning 12 pitches (10 strikes) to get four outs. His line this spring: 3 1 0 0 0 4. 28 pitches / 21 strikes.

UPDATE, 3:22 p.m.: Edwar Ramirez in to pitch now.

UPDATE, 3:24 p.m.: The Yankees subbed out the entire lineup. Now we have Gardner, Cervelli, Miranda, Bernier, Nunez, Leone, Linden and Rodriguez in. The crowd is fleeing for the early-bird special.

UPDATE, 3:30 p.m.: Detroit has tied the score at 2-2 against Ramirez. I’ll be headed down to the clubhouse soon, so this could be it for updates.

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167 Responses to “Spring Game 25: Tigers at Yankees”

  1. Joe from Long Island March 21st, 2009 at 9:45 am

    Real good Q&A with Joba. It seems like he gets it that he needs to be careful in NYC, and “slow” things down, as he put it. I wonder if Mo, Jeter, Andy, Moose (last year), et al. have been talking to him.

    I don’t remember if the Yanks had a 1st round pick in 2007 (wasn’t that the year they picked Andrew Brackman?), but imagine if they had been able to take Porcello? That might have translated into not signing AJ this past winter, and going for someone like Livan to keep the spot warm for a year or so. Not that I’m unhappy with AJ, not at all, but it can be fun to play “what if”.

  2. trisha - As long as you're in pinstripes, Kei, I've got your back. March 21st, 2009 at 9:45 am

    This came to me last night and the thought wouldn’t leave so here it is. Not only are the Yankees going to take the AL East, they are going to run away with it. I don’t know if it’s going to rival 1998 but it’s going to be intense.

    It was one of those things that come to me like a bullet out of the blue. I always think those are the most interesting “insights” because they don’t have to make sense to me. But it’s an overwhelming feeling, so then I think there’s something to it. Who knows, maybe I’m a conduit to some of the baseball gods! :)

    Anyway, we’ll find it out soon enough that my insight was right or I ate too close to going to bed…

  3. Bronx Jeers March 21st, 2009 at 9:59 am

    If these guys have the same record on April 28th as they have today, I’ll be satisfied.

    I just hope Jeter’s ready. He hasn’t exactly lit up the WBC.

    Yanks play about 18 weekday day games this season. That’s kind of odd.

  4. Fran March 21st, 2009 at 10:01 am

    Trisha, I hope that your feelings are right! I too expect the Yankees to have a great season this year with the pitching rotation that they have.

  5. EricNS March 21st, 2009 at 10:12 am

    I hope so Trisha! It would be great to do that and not have to fight to get to the postseason and then be so drained you go one and out.

  6. SF Yanks March 21st, 2009 at 10:21 am

    Mariano Rivers? When did we get him?

  7. S.A.-The 2009 MLB season is almost here March 21st, 2009 at 10:22 am

    Bye Phil-See ya soon

  8. Deep to Left March 21st, 2009 at 10:27 am

    Pitching: Rivers & Versas? Boy, they’ll let just about anyone throw in a spring training game! :-0. LOL

  9. Jeff NJ March 21st, 2009 at 10:35 am

    Wait, Humberto Sanchez has been with the major league team this year? What is his story anyway? I thought he was fully healed late last year?

  10. yankee21 March 21st, 2009 at 10:38 am

    Joe from LI..

    Brackman was drafted, I believe #30 overall, by NY in 2007, I believe Porcello was grabbed by DET two or three slots ahead of NY in the 1st round.

  11. Rishi March 21st, 2009 at 10:38 am

    Buster:

    Matt Holliday is set to become a free agent in the fall, and Oakland will not re-sign him. For the Athletics, a team with a modest payroll, an investment of 25-30 percent of their resources in one player is high risk, something they’ve always avoided. (See Zito, Barry; see Hudson, Tim; see Mulder, Mark; see Tejada, Miguel). And historically, the teams that have devoted a high percentage of their payroll usually wind up regretting it (see Rockies, Colorado, re: Todd Helton).

    So regardless of whether Oakland trades Holliday to a contender at midseason or keeps him for itself all summer, he’ll be the CC Sabathia of the next free agent market, the most coveted player available.

    As with Mark Teixeira, however, the number of teams that will actually pursue Holliday figures to be limited, and perhaps reduced by the wave of economic difficulty that many teams are seeing on the horizon.

    Holliday would be a great fit for the St. Louis Cardinals, for example, somebody who could be a complement for Albert Pujols, hitting in front of him or behind him. But this might be the first year since the early part of the decade that the Cardinals don’t reach three million in attendance.

    The addition of Holliday would give the Mets tremendous right-left balance, but New York appears to be veering away from its free-spending days of Pedro Martinez and Carlos Beltran, and are ready to rely more on in-house products like Daniel Murphy (who continues to impress the staff greatly).

    If Manny Ramirez remains with the Dodgers for 2009, they won’t have the flexibility to pursue Holliday, and the Cubs have multi-year investments in Alfonso Soriano and Milton Bradley, making it unlikely that they’ll get involved.

    And the bidding on Holliday may well be impacted by an industry-wide shift away from spending on players in their 30s. Holliday turns 30 next winter, which means that he would be 35 in the final year of his contract. Teixeira got an eight-year, $180 million contract at age 29, as a Gold Glove-caliber first baseman. Holliday is a corner outfielder who is generally viewed as slightly below average.

    But among the few teams that pursue him, the offers will likely be robust, because he is one of the game’s elite hitters, having posted a career OPS of .938. There are some questions about how great his production will be now that he has left Coors Field, but a lot of talent evaluators don’t believe he’s part of that Vinny Castilla Club. “He hits the ball hard a lot, and that won’t be affected by where he plays,” said one general manager.

    An early line on the upcoming Holliday season:

    1. ANGELS: Vladimir Guerrero has done exceptional work for the Angels, but he will be eligible for free agency after this year, and at age 35, there are distinct signs of regression in how he moves and how he hits. It may be that the Angels will work out a deal to bring him back.

    But Holliday would represent an easy alternative, and his work and team ethic is right in line with the preferences of manager Mike Scioscia. The Angels will probably have the need for somebody like Holliday, and they’ll probably have the money.

    The X-factor is the club’s relationship with Scott Boras, who represents Holliday; whether or not that will be an impediment remains to be seen.

    2. RED SOX: They are a team in need of an infusion of power for the middle of their lineup, which is why they were aggressive in their pursuit of Teixeira. Even if David Ortiz, J.D. Drew and Mike Lowell all hit well in 2009, they have all reached the stage of their respective careers when their projected production will be in question. And Jason Bay, who will be 31 in the fall, will be eligible for free agency.

    Holliday would probably love hitting in Fenway, and he knows first-hand of the adrenalin kick received from playing in Boston, after experiencing the 2007 World Series. In a world without complications, the Red Sox would probably love to have him, and he’d probably love to play in Boston.

    But it remains to be seen how the Teixeira negotiations have affected the relationship between the Red Sox and Boras, and there is no doubt about this: The Boston front office was livid about how those talks played out.

    Once again, the Red Sox will likely be competing against the Yankees for the player.

    3. YANKEES: The contracts of Johnny Damon and Hideki Matsui will expire after this season, so the Yankees will be in a position to take a run at Holliday — and if the team doesn’t make the playoffs again, the Yankees will be under enormous pressure to make a run at the slugger. If you think that the right-handed hitting Holliday wouldn’t be a good fit in Yankee Stadium, well, there are long-term scouts who would vehemently disagree with you.

    “You know how [Derek] Jeter flips his home runs over the right-field wall?” asked one scout. “That’s exactly how Holliday would hit in Yankee Stadium, except in much greater volume. His swing is perfect for Yankee Stadium.”

    Jeter might be the X-factor. At some point over the next 18 months, the Yankees may well approach him about shifting off shortstop. He cannot move to third base, because of Alex Rodriguez, and Teixeira is locked in as the first baseman for the next eight years. It’s unlikely that the Yankees would consider moving Jeter to second base, because the questions about whether he would have suitable range to play the middle infield will still stand.

    So if Jeter is to continue playing with the Yankees, it would probably have to be in left or right field, given that he will turn 36 in June of 2010. That looming issue shouldn’t be a consideration as the Yankees think of ways to improve for next season, but the reality is that political concerns were at the root of the club’s decisions to essentially overpay Mariano Rivera, Jorge Posada and A-Rod in the winter of 2007-2008.

  12. teddy March 21st, 2009 at 10:39 am

    i can’t believe yes isn’t showing this game

  13. Betsy March 21st, 2009 at 10:42 am

    Poor Phil – I guess it has to be, though. He’ll get his work in the minor league camp and I’m sure the Yankees will be following him very carefully……

  14. Betsy March 21st, 2009 at 10:44 am

    I would still give Nick another day or two off – I don’t want him limping around the bases and aggravating the injury

  15. S.A.-The 2009 MLB season is almost here March 21st, 2009 at 10:57 am

    I started a second chance college basketball tourney group on yahoo:

    http://tournament.fantasysports.yahoo.com/t1

    Click join group:

    group ID# is 9401
    password is: yankees

    Open to whoever.
    Can only start making your picks when Round 3 is set on Sunday, March 22.

  16. Sean Serritella March 21st, 2009 at 11:03 am

    Phil Hughes was pitching well too.

  17. Bronx Jeers March 21st, 2009 at 11:05 am

    Nunez has sure had a great spring. I hope it carries over for him.

  18. Betsy March 21st, 2009 at 11:13 am

    Here are two interesting articles on AJ/Doc relationship:

    http://www.thestar.com/Sports/article/605368

    http://www.nationalpost.com/sp.....id=1407694

    We’ve been reading about the Burnett/Halladay relationship from AJ’s side, but Doc has some very intersting things to say here – he’s such a great pitcher that you never think that he could be insecure, but it just goes to show you that even great players are just human and experience the same feelings that all of us do.

    Pete’s article on AJ yesterday talked about how AJ is reading the The Mental ABCs of Pitching (I think that’s the title) and how he’s come to the realization that it’s much better to not worry about things (errors, bad calls by the umps, etc….) that are out of his control. I thought that was very interesting – and he’s getting a lot of good advice from his Yankee teammates about getting along in NY. He’s a smart guy, so I think he’ll do fine.

  19. Bad Scooter March 21st, 2009 at 11:21 am

    Betsy – I think Nick has a bruise on his shin from fouling a ball of his leg. If so, I don’t think he can injure it further, it’s just can he play with the pain.

  20. Joey's Poodle March 21st, 2009 at 11:24 am

    Is Nunez the next great Yankee hope at SS?

    Will we see Jeter mentoring him one day?

  21. Betsy March 21st, 2009 at 11:31 am

    Sorry to see Phil go, but he really did have a very positive spring. I’m most encouraged by this new curve and especially his increased confidence in the change. I’m looking forward to following his progress in AAA. I don’t care if he dominates hitters or not as results don’t matter. I just want Phil to continue working on his pitches and FB command – the results will come. Eventually, he’s going to be a much more complete pitcher……

  22. Betsy March 21st, 2009 at 11:33 am

    Bad Scooter, that’s true……I think I read on Kat O’Brien’s blog that Swish will be travelling tomorrow to wherever it is the Yanks play, so that’s good news. He was just getting hot with the bat – seems like the new stance Kevin Long was working on with him is bearing fruit.

  23. MooseCrawl March 21st, 2009 at 11:40 am

    Does anybody know how Humberto Sanchez looked this spring? Wasn’t he supposed to be a big-time pitching prospect? I haven’t heard anything about him in a while.

  24. Tony in Albany March 21st, 2009 at 11:46 am

    is this came actually on tv? Pete’s tv and radio coverage guide says it should be on wcbs, but that doesn’t make any since when cbs is covering the NCAA tournament….

  25. sierchio March 21st, 2009 at 11:51 am

    Tony, I think WCBS is a radio station?

  26. Harold March 21st, 2009 at 11:51 am

    pete you should have a random quote/observation of the day. get philosophical on our a**es

  27. sierchio March 21st, 2009 at 11:52 am

    Yeah, it’s 880AM

  28. S.A.-The 2009 MLB season is almost here March 21st, 2009 at 11:52 am

    Tony-not on tv.
    WCBS refers to WCBS 880..on the radio

  29. Count of Montefusco March 21st, 2009 at 12:10 pm

    Idle dreams:

    An outfield in 2010, from left to right, of Jeter-Jackson-Holliday.

    Sit down w/ A-Rod, convince him a fresh start in Anaheim is in his best interest. Get back a decent package of positional prospects. Eat an avg. of 6-7 million per year on a sliding scale for the remaining years of his contract. “Replace” (I use it loosely) his numbers with improved offense in CF and RF and a merely solid, high-OPB third baseman. Plug in a slick fielding kid at SS, bat be damned.

  30. carl March 21st, 2009 at 12:24 pm

    Get rid of our best player for prospects we will trade later. I like that.

  31. Giuseppe Franco March 21st, 2009 at 12:28 pm

    Smoking crack is bad for you, Count.

  32. Greg Cohen March 21st, 2009 at 12:30 pm

    30+ new shots of the new stadium: http://tinyurl.com/cdcst8

  33. yankeeguy March 21st, 2009 at 12:31 pm

    “Sit down w/ A-Rod, convince him a fresh start in Anaheim is in his best interest. Get back a decent package of positional prospects. Eat an avg. of 6-7 million per year on a sliding scale for the remaining years of his contract.”

    never, ever going to happen. Anaheim would never do this.

  34. Mad Mike March 21st, 2009 at 12:41 pm

    If we could trade A-Rod and get a picture like Jared Weaver in return, I’d do it in a heartbeat.

  35. Count of Montefusco March 21st, 2009 at 12:57 pm

    Nice pics.

    Warning track looks…bigger? Wider?

    I will miss having the escalator tower in LF. It made for the perfect spot — especially in the late innings of a loss — to heckle opposing bullpen during their warm-ups.

  36. Tom March 21st, 2009 at 12:58 pm

    “If we could trade A-Rod and get a picture like Jared Weaver in return, I’d do it in a heartbeat.”

    Only if it’s a head shot. I don’t want to see a picture of Weaver kissing anything.

  37. TKinDC March 21st, 2009 at 1:04 pm

    Quick question about Humberto Sanchez –

    Didn’t seem like he pitched much, if at all this Spring – is he slotted as a starter or a reliever down the line?

    Thanks

  38. Bronx Jeers March 21st, 2009 at 1:07 pm

    I’m anxiously awaiting my first dose of Sterling/Waldman.

    Our own Yankee version of Bogey & Bacall.

  39. teddy March 21st, 2009 at 1:15 pm

    gameday link

  40. Cal March 21st, 2009 at 1:21 pm

    “gameday link”

    http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/gameday.....b_nyamlb_1

  41. teddy March 21st, 2009 at 1:22 pm

    thanks

  42. Trevor March 21st, 2009 at 1:24 pm

    Newsflash to Waldman and Sterling: Joba is a power pitcher they throw lots of pitches. :roll:

  43. Giuseppe Franco March 21st, 2009 at 1:25 pm

    Booyah to the General.

  44. teddy March 21st, 2009 at 1:27 pm

    Trevor what you listening threw gameday audio

  45. Trevor March 21st, 2009 at 1:30 pm

    ^ WCBS radio.

  46. chaz March 21st, 2009 at 1:31 pm

    Does anyone know the station to hear the game in Tampa? I remember a couple years ago listening to the game here, but haven’t been able to find it now. Thanks.

  47. teddy March 21st, 2009 at 1:34 pm

    any chance you got a link, i can’t find out how to listen to it

  48. Calm Down March 21st, 2009 at 1:34 pm

    Chaz go on the WCBS website

  49. Bronx Jeers March 21st, 2009 at 1:38 pm

    You can’t hear it on the 880 website. I guess MLBAudio has a stranglehold on the rights to the web broadcast.

    It stinks as you can get the station on your Iphone but not the games.

    Still waiting for the MLB app with gameday audio.

  50. chaz March 21st, 2009 at 1:43 pm

    Calm Down –

    I’m listening to it but its just news. 660 has the Mets game but I cant find the Yanks.

  51. Bronx Jeers March 21st, 2009 at 1:44 pm

    Gameday is just horrible. Not even accurate as it has Joba throwing 5 pitches in the first when he threw at least 8 to Sheff alone.

  52. Trevor March 21st, 2009 at 1:45 pm

    Bases loaded and 1 out for the Tigers.

  53. Bronx Jeers March 21st, 2009 at 1:45 pm

    Joba in trouble. 3 singles in a row.

  54. Cal March 21st, 2009 at 1:47 pm

    “Gameday is just horrible. Not even accurate as it has Joba throwing 5 pitches in the first when he threw at least 8 to Sheff alone.”

    Not even only that, it updates like molasses for me. This certainly isn’t pitch by pitch update, which is what I selected. Feel like I’m in the stone age trying to get access to some of these games.

  55. Giuseppe Franco March 21st, 2009 at 1:48 pm

    Oh no!!!!! Put Joba back in the pen!!!!!

  56. trisha - As long as you're in pinstripes, Kei, I've got your back. March 21st, 2009 at 1:49 pm

    Just curious.

    Does it seem that just about every game Molina calls ends up successful for pitchers but when Jorge’s the catcher they forget how to pitch? Maybe not every time but this just really seems like a constant to me.

    Plisses me off too. Of course, nobody questions the great Jorge.

    GRR!!!!

    Yankees have had a great winning streak going. Who’s been catching all thoses games? NOT POSADA!

  57. Giuseppe Franco March 21st, 2009 at 1:51 pm

    Posada did catch the starts by Sabathia and Burnett this past week.

  58. Mad Mike March 21st, 2009 at 1:51 pm

    trisha – Molina is catching today

  59. Betsy March 21st, 2009 at 1:52 pm

    Suzyn and John were practically giving the RF job to Nady – I don’t know if they know something that we don’t, but that’s disappointing.

    Joba is not looking good -he really hasn’t looked great at all this spring (his last two were fine, but nothing special). He’s not putting away hitters and he’s just not sharp. I think we might be best off dialing down our expectations for him – he’ll be fine for the #5 spot, but dominating? Not yet – I’m not seeing that stuff or control from him.

  60. CaptainsCorner March 21st, 2009 at 1:53 pm

    Joba better find a way to put away batters quicker. Otherwise the bullpen is going to be used a ton during his starts..He is 3-2 on every batter…They can’t hit his fastball so they just fail it off waiting for another pitch.

  61. Betsy March 21st, 2009 at 1:54 pm

    I’ll type that again – Joba’s just not looking that good and hasn’t all spring (his last two outings were solid, but nothing more). He’s not putting away hitters and that’s getting his pitch count up. I think we need to dial down our expectations for him for now – he’ll be a very good #5, but I haven’t seen the stuff or control from him to make me think that he’s going to be dominating.

  62. S March 21st, 2009 at 1:54 pm

    What’s Joba’s pitch count at right now?

  63. Mad Mike March 21st, 2009 at 1:55 pm

    Joba had an awful Spring last year too, and how did that turn out?

    He’s just getting his work in and getting his arm in shape.

  64. vtred March 21st, 2009 at 1:56 pm

    Nobody ever said you need to be efficient to be dominant.

    Case in point – Scott Kazmir.

  65. trisha - As long as you're in pinstripes, Kei, I've got your back. March 21st, 2009 at 1:56 pm

    Mad Mike -

    Oops, and thanks.

    :D

    (Seriously though, it does seem that way to me generally speaking.)

  66. Trevor March 21st, 2009 at 1:56 pm

    Gameday gets better when the season starts. Right now it’s in Spring Training mode.

  67. carl March 21st, 2009 at 1:57 pm

    lol @ the guy screaming

  68. Giuseppe Franco March 21st, 2009 at 1:57 pm

    Joba threw at least 6.0 IP in seven of his ten starts last season in which he was allowed to throw 90+ pitches and threw 5.2 IP in another one.

    He will get better with his efficiency as he matures just like anyone else.

    He may be Joba but he’s not Super Man.

    He’ll be fine and the Yankee pen will be fine.

  69. m March 21st, 2009 at 1:59 pm

    While I find it irritating that Joba’s been named the greatest thing since sliced bread, I don’t care what his spring looks like as long as he gets the job done during the season.

  70. CaptainsCorner March 21st, 2009 at 2:00 pm

    “Nobody ever said you need to be efficient to be dominant.

    Case in point – Scott Kazmir.”

    You mean the same Kazmir who always struggles to get past 5 innings because his pitch is soo high? I don’t think the Yanks would be happy with Joba being only a 5 innings, 110 pitch pitcher. That only kills the bullpen every time out.

  71. Bronx Jeers March 21st, 2009 at 2:02 pm

    Pitchcount should be around 40. Maybe a few less. They wanted him to demonstrate efficiency this start. He’ll be lucky to go 4 inn.

  72. tom March 21st, 2009 at 2:02 pm

    Yeah, Joba really struggled when he was a starter last year…..

  73. carl March 21st, 2009 at 2:03 pm

    5ks for joba.

  74. Bronx Jeers March 21st, 2009 at 2:04 pm

    Sheff cooks up a single.

    I know he had an attitude but he was a gamer.

  75. pat March 21st, 2009 at 2:04 pm

    Listening to WCBS, sounds like Joba’s breaking ball is what they are missing on, not the FB.

  76. Trevor March 21st, 2009 at 2:06 pm

    Sheffield has hit Joba well in the past and continues to.

  77. Giuseppe Franco March 21st, 2009 at 2:06 pm

    You mean the same Kazmir who always struggles to get past 5 innings because his pitch is soo high? I don’t think the Yanks would be happy with Joba being only a 5 innings, 110 pitch pitcher. That only kills the bullpen every time out.

    ————-

    Joba’s not a 5 inning pitcher every time out. That’s baloney.

    The uninformed mediots keep spouting this tripe and it’s just not true.

    7 of 10 starts last season he threw at least 6.0 IP and 5.2 IP in another one.

    Look it up and see it for yourself:

    http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/pl.....s19KmFCLcF

  78. ZMan March 21st, 2009 at 2:07 pm

    Joba IS the greatest thing since sliced bread.

  79. Bronx Jeers March 21st, 2009 at 2:07 pm

    Waldman: ” He’s got 4+ pitches”

    Well not exactly.

  80. Cal March 21st, 2009 at 2:08 pm

    Jesus folks, the guy is the number 5 starter, I mean the Mets have Livan Hernandez for crying out loud, would we like him instead.

    Joba is 23 and still going to go through a learning curve as a starter, he isn’t going to go 1,2,3, in every inning. Do we realize that Lincecum, Lester, Pelfrey are all older than Joba.

    If the worst thing we have to worry about is Joba laboring as the 5 starter with Sabathia pitching the next day, then I’ll take my chances if it means giving Joba the chance to continue to mature as a starter.

  81. BBB March 21st, 2009 at 2:09 pm

    we’re not seriously getting hysterical over a spring outing are we? yawn!!!

    I don’t even know what’s going on in the game now, Gameday operates like it just smoked 10 joints. and I refuse to subject myself to John & Suzyn on a Saturday until teh season starts. Came on here for an update but it is way too nice a day outside for this panic mode! last year Joba was giving up bombs in ST like it was going out of style and he still found a way to get people out when the games began to count. Relax people, the sky is not falling! all is well in Yankeeland!

  82. Cal March 21st, 2009 at 2:09 pm

    Some of you folk are rough

  83. tom March 21st, 2009 at 2:10 pm

    I wish we had Sheff here still. He is so intimidating at the plate, even now.

  84. Trevor March 21st, 2009 at 2:10 pm

    Waldman and Sterling are completely lost. Joba has 2 plus pitches and a very good third pitch. Which is plus at times. I wouldn’t call his change a plus. I wish!
    They’re constant whining about his efficiency is annoying. He’s 23 and he’s the fifth starter for goodness sake.

  85. Cal March 21st, 2009 at 2:10 pm

    “we’re not seriously getting hysterical over a spring outing are we? yawn!!!
    I don’t even know what’s going on in the game now, Gameday operates like it just smoked 10 joints. and I refuse to subject myself to John & Suzyn on a Saturday until teh season starts. Came on here for an update but it is way too nice a day outside for this panic mode! last year Joba was giving up bombs in ST like it was going out of style and he still found a way to get people out when the games began to count. Relax people, the sky is not falling! all is well in Yankeeland!”

    LOL, tell me about it, I can barely follow gameday and everytime I refresh this page I see someone talking about Joba like he became Ian Kennedy all of a sudden.

  86. Cal March 21st, 2009 at 2:12 pm

    “I wish we had Sheff here still. He is so intimidating at the plate, even now.”

    Sheff is on his last tendon, we got out from him at the right time, notice you didn’t hear much good about him in Detroit last season. He was hurt and awful, would have been one more headache here in NY, in the midst of all the Arod drama circus party.

  87. Forntoso March 21st, 2009 at 2:12 pm

    Joba – 3 IP, 4 H, 1 ER, 0 BB, 5 Ks

    Yeah, send him to AAA

  88. Betsy March 21st, 2009 at 2:14 pm

    Guiseppe Franco, I wholeheartedly agree. I don’t believe I was knocking Joba, just saying that he’s really not that sharp right now. I think people expect him to go out there and blow major league hitters away – they don’t even look at him as a regular #5 (because he’s much better talent-wise, which is true) – and that’s not the case. He’s still a very young man and just because he throws hard doesn’t mean he doesn’t need a little education on the mound. He may be a guy (and most power pitchers are) who needs to work himself into shape…..

  89. BBB March 21st, 2009 at 2:14 pm

    btw, just to clear things up. Joba > sliced bread. He’s the greatest thing since BEFORE sliced bread!

  90. Justin C March 21st, 2009 at 2:14 pm

    i was really against joba to the pen… but if he cant learn to be economical… they might have to think about it

  91. Trevor March 21st, 2009 at 2:14 pm

    If Rick Porcello needs to work on his curve and slider then why would he be ML read?

  92. Giuseppe Franco March 21st, 2009 at 2:15 pm

    Joba averaged 17.3 pitches per inning last season.

    Tim Lincecum averaged 16.1 pitches per inning and he’s got the added benefit of facing a pitcher instead of a DH every nine hitters and being in the worst offensive division in the game.

  93. Al from BK March 21st, 2009 at 2:15 pm

    Joba will learn to be more economical as he gets experience. Mind you if this were the regular season Joba would probably still get in 6 innings even with his PC being high.

  94. S.A.-The 2009 MLB season is almost here March 21st, 2009 at 2:16 pm

    Just got back home-I was listening to the game in the car. Crazy screaming dude needs to hush up. The man has lungs! :lol:

  95. Betsy March 21st, 2009 at 2:16 pm

    Cal, I agree with you – but not everyone who has a bit of criticism for Joba is hysterical. I have not seen one hysterical post here. It’s to the point where you can’t say anything “bad” about Joba…….

  96. Manson March 21st, 2009 at 2:17 pm

    Joba will be sandwiched between Andy Pettitte and CC Sabathia.

    Who cares how much bullpen you have to use for Joba’s starts? Chances are, you won’t need much before or after him.

    Even if he only goes 5… just go Coke for 2, Bruney for 1, Mo for 1. Or if we have a big lead, just let Tomko/Giese finish up the game.

    This is not as hard as some people are making it out to be. We had one of the best BPs in the league while getting 3 inning starts from Ponson and Rasner.

  97. Cal March 21st, 2009 at 2:17 pm

    Joba – 3 IP, 4 H, 1 ER, 0 BB, 5 Ks
    Yeah, send him to AAA

    LOL, start packing those cleats Joba

  98. Bronx Jeers March 21st, 2009 at 2:17 pm

    Im not panicking but he was supposed to demonstrate efficiency which is his problem. He’s thrown 57 thru 3. He’s got the k’s but is pretty much done for the day.

    Damon double off the wall. Berroa scores. 1-1

    Tex doubles. 2-1 Yanks.

  99. carl March 21st, 2009 at 2:17 pm

    S.A. that guy is killing me lol

  100. Giuseppe Franco March 21st, 2009 at 2:20 pm

    Betsy,

    My gripe wasn’t directed at you. It’s mostly people who don’t have a sense of reality.

    I’d like to see him improve his efficiency as well. But he’ll learn to do that as he matures.

    People really need to get a grip because this nitpicking is moronic.

  101. BBB March 21st, 2009 at 2:20 pm

    sweet, looks like we scored some runs!

    Teix > Joba > sliced bread. :D

  102. yankeeguy March 21st, 2009 at 2:20 pm

    “If we could trade A-Rod and get a picture like Jared Weaver in return, I’d do it in a heartbeat.”

    what an utterly awful idea. i can’t think of how that would even make the Yankees better.

  103. Yanks MC 21 March 21st, 2009 at 2:20 pm

    Do people remember what Joba did last year as a starter?

    As Franco pointed out, not only was he dominant, he was surprisingly efficient.

    Now suddenly, he’s not going to be dominant because he is ‘struggling’ in the Spring with his pitch count? I’ll take what he did last year at the ML level over a meaningless Spring game. And last year, he proved to be pretty efficient.

  104. Cal March 21st, 2009 at 2:22 pm

    “Cal, I agree with you – but not everyone who has a bit of criticism for Joba is hysterical. I have not seen one hysterical post here. It’s to the point where you can’t say anything “bad” about Joba…….”

    I hear you its just reading commentary it sometimes comes off that way when read like people are panicking if he gives up a walk or some hits. We have to remind ourselves of Joba’s age and role on this team. Being the 5 starter he is not being asked to lead the team ala Sabathia, Wang, Burnett. Even though his stuff is not typical of a 5 and he won’t stay there for long, for this season that spot can allow a lot of flexibility with him and the approach to pitching.

    The thing is the pitch count issue is a maturation thing, that will come in time and with Sabathia going the next day, the bullpen is in much better shape to handle any extra work in his starts.

  105. BBB March 21st, 2009 at 2:22 pm

    just for the record, my griping wasnt directed at anyone in particular either. Just the general tone this blog often seems to take whenever Joba gives up a couple hits in the spring. And the media definitely adds to my frustrations as well w/all the ‘Joba to the pen cause he isnt economical’ stuff. They are te ones with the real hysteria!

  106. S.A.-The 2009 MLB season is almost here March 21st, 2009 at 2:23 pm

    carl-I know! The man is just randomly screaming ARRRRRGHHHHH.
    Time to cut off his beer supply! :P

  107. yankeeguy March 21st, 2009 at 2:24 pm

    “I wish we had Sheff here still. He is so intimidating at the plate, even now.”

    is this a serious post?

    Sheff is cooked. he was beyond awful last year.

    who cares that he waggles his bat. the Yankees cut bait just in time on that guy.

  108. BBB is driving the Swisher > Nady bandwagon March 21st, 2009 at 2:27 pm

    new nickname test. And I promise it’s not cause Nady just GIDP! It’s mostly because Nady is to OBP as Cano is while Swisher is more in the Abreu/Giambi camp, except without the fatness and horrific defense.

    Swisher for Mayor

  109. Peter Abraham March 21st, 2009 at 2:27 pm

    It’s a mystery to me how people don’t understand this.

    Joba has allowed two ERs in his last nine innings this spring and fanned 11. He’s 22, he’ll learn how to economize pitches. This is why you start him now, so he learns. How can he learn pitching one inning?

  110. BBB is driving the Swisher > Nady bandwagon March 21st, 2009 at 2:29 pm

    btw, Pete, next time Rick Porcello pitches, can we get some Bon Jovi references too?

  111. teddy March 21st, 2009 at 2:30 pm

    i agree pete, besides likely most of those pitches likely were thrown in the second inning. he had a bad inning. we both know joba gotta 100 ptches threwn 5 and only give 2 runs. bullpen will cover and cc will back him up on the next day

  112. Cal March 21st, 2009 at 2:30 pm

    “We had one of the best BPs in the league while getting 3 inning starts from Ponson and Rasner.”

    Eek, don’t remind me about them of the 5 run ERA’s. I mean they tried their best but their stuff just was mediocre and so were most of the results.

    Hard to believe Rasner made the 3rd most starts on this team and Ponson the 5th most. I still marvel that this team won 89 games looking back on that staff.

  113. Danny March 21st, 2009 at 2:31 pm

    Peter – Agree 100%. People are just looking for reasons to complain now. Joba is fine.

  114. Bronx Jeers March 21st, 2009 at 2:32 pm

    Sending Berroa on Melky’s groundout led to 2 runs.

    Joba’s a # 5 by default and because of an inning limit. He projects much higher. I just wish he would get more early count groundouts. He pitched very good today I’m certainly not complaining. It’s just that he only went 3.1 .

    Wow Damon just threw a guy out at home!

  115. pat March 21st, 2009 at 2:33 pm

    “A terrific throw by Johnny Damon”- words not often heard :wink:

  116. Giuseppe Franco March 21st, 2009 at 2:33 pm

    Hey Pete,

    Any idea how hard Joba is throwing today?

    Not that it really matters, but it does to some people.

  117. BBB is driving the Swisher > Nady bandwagon March 21st, 2009 at 2:33 pm

    can anyone listening to J&S provide a game update? Gameday stuck on top 4, 0 outs. Is Joba still in?

  118. Al from BK March 21st, 2009 at 2:34 pm

    Peter- I’m glad you posted that I’ve been saying that all day. Joba like all power pitchers throws A LOT of pitches that will happen when a pitcher depends on the strike-out. Hes young his PC will get better with age as long as he gets us 6 innings I could care less.

  119. R-Tek March 21st, 2009 at 2:34 pm

    That’s why you carry a long man like Giese. If Joba just doesn’t have it, you can throw the long guy out there to soak up innings and keep the pen fresh so you don’t need to use 5 relievers.

    I fail to see the problem with getting 5 or 6 dominant innings from Joba every 5 days? It’s not like we want him to go 7-8 inns anyway considering his innings limit. The innings limit makes his so called “inefficiency” not a problem at all.

  120. pat March 21st, 2009 at 2:35 pm

    Joba out after 3 and 1/3. Alba in for the other 2/3.

  121. Betsy March 21st, 2009 at 2:36 pm

    My post was worded terribly now that I read it again. It sounds like I said that I predict him to be a good #5 for his career – my heavens, that’s not what I meant. What I meant to say is that he’s not been overly sharp in spring and I think the fans that expect Joba to dominate right off the bat might want to dial their expectations down……for now (so they don’t get disappointed in him). The media, for instance, forgets that he’s 23 – he’s a baby and still has maturing to do. For some reason, they expect him to be the automatic thunder and lightning that he was out of the pen -of course, this betrays their complete lack of knowledge. Having to deal with a lineup more than once requires more than two pitches and it certainly requires more adustments to the adjustments of the hitters. I apologize for my earlier post – I just did not make myself clear.

  122. teddy March 21st, 2009 at 2:38 pm

    did damon really gun somebody down

  123. Phil March 21st, 2009 at 2:40 pm

    He didn’t walk anyone, which is good. His PC’s will come around.

  124. Bronx Jeers March 21st, 2009 at 2:40 pm

    Screaming guy strikes again!

  125. carl March 21st, 2009 at 2:41 pm

    lol at the screams

  126. jimmy1138 March 21st, 2009 at 2:41 pm

    Hilarious. Those Angel Berroa age jokes never get old.

  127. Cal March 21st, 2009 at 2:43 pm

    words that don’t go together Damon and outfield assists. Man the season needs to start today. “)

  128. TonyD March 21st, 2009 at 2:44 pm

    this is in reference to PA’s commentary on today’s game vs. the Tigers. He said: “Joba allowed three straight singles. The first one (by Larish) was a grounder than got past Cano in the hole. Then Laird and Clevlen had solid shots to center.”

    Obviously Jeter’s range has impacted these hits … if another shortstop was in he would have converetd all into outs! :-)

    Yes, I know … the hits were not anywhere near shortstop AND Jeter is with the USA team … but someone, somewhere will find a way to fault Jeter for this.

    Personally, I hope Jeter has the maturity to step aside when the Yankees have a way to make the team better. I hope Jeter remains a Yankee albeit at a different position when the time comes (maybe with his next contract).

  129. TonyD March 21st, 2009 at 2:44 pm

    this is in reference to PA’s commentary on today’s game vs. the Tigers. He said: “Joba allowed three straight singles. The first one (by Larish) was a grounder than got past Cano in the hole. Then Laird and Clevlen had solid shots to center.”

    Obviously Jeter’s range has impacted these hits … if another shortstop was in he would have converetd all into outs! :-)

    Yes, I know … the hits were not anywhere near shortstop AND Jeter is with the USA team … but someone, somewhere will find a way to fault Jeter for this.

    Personally, I hope Jeter has the maturity to step aside when the Yankees have a way to make the team better. I hope Jeter remains a Yankee albeit at a different position when the time comes (maybe with his next contract).

  130. Every Day Phil Coke March 21st, 2009 at 2:44 pm

    What’s more painful to listen to? The screaming guy or Susan Waldman?

  131. Betsy March 21st, 2009 at 2:44 pm

    I admit that Suzyn and John sort of made me worry a bit – but I’m absolutely not worried. Cal – you make outstanding points.

  132. Betsy March 21st, 2009 at 2:47 pm

    It sounds like Nady already has the job – both from Suzyn and John’s comments today and from Girardi’s comments a few days ago. Swisher is versatile, more so than Nady, and that will hurt him in the competition for RF. That said, I do think Joe and the Yankees love Swish and what he can do for them (his OBP and all)…….

  133. Counts March 21st, 2009 at 2:47 pm

    The only expectations to ‘temper’ are if you thought that Joba was going to be a workhorse this year (which was silly to begin with considering he is on an innings limit).

    Expecting him to be dominant in the 150 innings he pitches is not unrealistic at all. Infact, most of the ‘projection’ systems have him with an ERA in the low to mid 3′s. Will he be dominant? Who knows. Is there a good chance? Absolutely.

  134. Bronx Jeers March 21st, 2009 at 2:49 pm

    “Obviously Jeter’s range has impacted these hits … if another shortstop was in he would have converetd all into outs! ”

    I’ll do you one better on the ridiculous meter.

    Joba’s throwing a lot of pitches earning those K’s cause he’s afraid a ball might be hit Jeter’s way!

    Rumor has it that Wang is lobbying Girardi to make Berroa his personal shortstop.

  135. tom March 21st, 2009 at 2:50 pm

    Nady is pretty useless off the bench. Swisher’s skill set is much more conducive to production in a limited role than Nady’s is.

  136. Betsy March 21st, 2009 at 2:52 pm

    Also, to be fair – I liked it when AJ had to struggle a bit in Thursday’s game because he showed that he could bend and not break without his best stuff/control. What do you really learn by dominating? It’s the same issue Phil faced in AAA – he never had to face a bases loaded situation, which is remarkable. His ML experience will help him to be a much better pitcher…..he learned what he can and can not get away with. Joba will be the same way – everytime he goes out to the mound, it’s a learning experience for him. You just know the mediots will start sounding off about this, but at least with the NCAAs going on, we will be spared Francesca’s weekly rants about Joba to the pen.

  137. Giuseppe Franco March 21st, 2009 at 2:52 pm

    Nady may get the starting nod on Opening Day.

    But I think Swisher will end up wrestling that RF job away from Nady within the first couple months of the season.

  138. Al from BK March 21st, 2009 at 2:52 pm

    Lol Pete with the Angel Berroa jokes. He does look a lot older than he supposedly is it what surprising seeing him on TV for the first time.

  139. Rockks March 21st, 2009 at 2:54 pm

    Joe has to be careful about trying to juggle the lineup just to accommodate Swisher and make him happy. One of Joe’s problems last year was a lack of a consistent lineup and resting guys when they were hot or when they didn’t want/need a rest.

  140. Bad Scooter March 21st, 2009 at 2:59 pm

    True Rockks, but we have some older position players and they need a day off every once in awhile. The one time that Girardi sat Damon when he was red hot really ticked off Damon.

  141. carl March 21st, 2009 at 2:59 pm

    and again! screams!

  142. Bronx Jeers March 21st, 2009 at 3:00 pm

    Leave Berroa alone. It’s not his fault he ages like Benjamin Button.

    In the medical nomenclature it’s known as Gregodenitis.

  143. pat March 21st, 2009 at 3:02 pm

    If Melky is going down it’s not going to be quietly. 2 hits and a stolen base today. Good for him.

  144. O'Brandon ( I Love Me Some Me), 'Watching AL be the 2nd coming of Rickey Henderson' March 21st, 2009 at 3:04 pm

    Berroa is such an easy target to catch especially in his senior citizen state.

  145. Bronx Jeers March 21st, 2009 at 3:06 pm

    Damon wasn’t tired that time Girardi sat him. It was because Justin Christian was “smoking lefties” in his 23 AB career against them.

    Not Girardi’s best day last season that’s for sure.

    Ahh. I hear me some Mariano music.

  146. teddy March 21st, 2009 at 3:07 pm

    MO TIME

  147. O'Brandon ( I Love Me Some Me), 'Watching AL be the 2nd coming of Rickey Henderson' March 21st, 2009 at 3:08 pm

    ‘It was because Justin Christian was “smoking lefties” in his 23 AB career against them’

    That and most of his throw got past midfield

  148. BBB is driving the Swisher > Nady bandwagon March 21st, 2009 at 3:09 pm

    “What do you really learn by dominating? It’s the same issue Phil faced in AAA – he never had to face a bases loaded situation, which is remarkable. His ML experience will help him to be a much better pitcher…..he learned what he can and can not get away with. ”

    Very true. And as much as I know Kennedy is not too popular around these parts, the same is true of him. Maybe even more so than w/the other youngsters. Up until last year he never failed in his whole career. In college they were saying he was possibly the best pitcher in USC history. Everything came easy. Barely even ever struggled enough to need to make an adjustment. So while I’m not sure if he’ll ever be a successful MLB pitcher, I am sure that what’s been happening to him lately is an important part of the process and there is still hope for him yet!

  149. GreenBeret7 March 21st, 2009 at 3:11 pm

    Rivera’s struggling with his control, today. He missed the strikezone once on Sheffield.

  150. Betsy March 21st, 2009 at 3:11 pm

    http://newyork.yankees.mlb.com.....8;c_id=nyy

    “I told him that he had a great camp and to keep working,” Cashman said. “We told him about all the things that we saw and what he needs to continue to work on. He’s in a great frame of mind. He knows he did great here, but he also knows that it’s not in his best interest to now be held back.”

  151. Bronx Jeers March 21st, 2009 at 3:12 pm

    “That and most of his throw got past midfield”

    This after Damon flashed his gun today! For Shame!

    I’m sure Boras is busy right now getting that throw burned on a DVD for Damon’s FA suitors next winter.

    Mo just gave up a hit. He’s finished as a closer.

  152. tom March 21st, 2009 at 3:12 pm

    Korea-Venz tonight

  153. Betsy March 21st, 2009 at 3:13 pm

    BBB, you’re right – it’s true of Kennedy as well. I’m looking forward to seeing how he progresses as well, though I wonder if he has a future on this team given how many arms the Yankees have. Despite his issues last year, he’s a good kid and I hope he does well.

  154. BBB is driving the Swisher > Nady bandwagon March 21st, 2009 at 3:13 pm

    “Mo just gave up a hit.”

    OH NOES!!!! Joba to teh pen!!!!!!!!1!!!!!! ;)

  155. Betsy March 21st, 2009 at 3:14 pm

    How’d Albaladejo look? I’m hoping he’s got a real chance for one of the openings in the pen…….

  156. dave March 21st, 2009 at 3:15 pm

    Edwar seems to have the inside track on the final pen spot. Joe indicated if he pitched well, he will get it.

    The pen is set for the most part except the long man competition.

  157. Betsy March 21st, 2009 at 3:18 pm

    Edwar’s pitched well, but he only has a few innings under his belt. Even though he’ll get more innings in the last weeks of ST, they may not be enough; I wonder if he’ll be sent to AAA to get some work and then be called up.

  158. ZMan March 21st, 2009 at 3:18 pm

    Alby gave up 3 hits in 1.2 innings and got saved by Damon’s rocket arm gunning out the guy at home

  159. O'Brandon ( I Love Me Some Me), 'Watching AL be the 2nd coming of Rickey Henderson' March 21st, 2009 at 3:19 pm

    ‘Korea-Venz tonight’

    I can’t wait to see this one and US vs Japan

  160. Bronx Jeers March 21st, 2009 at 3:21 pm

    “Speaking of which, I have a bad feeling that the lame YMCA bit will be taken over to the new Stadium. They really need to change the script.”

    I’ve got to get Bald Vinnie to make a shirt that echoes this sentiment. Personally, I will be bringing a banner to get the grassroots protest on its feet.

  161. Yank MC 21 March 21st, 2009 at 3:21 pm

    I’d rank Robertson higher than Albaladejo, if Edwar’s spot was in question (though I doubt it, he has looked great this Spring too)

    Couting the team USA game, Robertson has struck out 12 in 8 innings and walked only 3 and gave up 2 hits. He has been dominant.

  162. West side March 21st, 2009 at 3:24 pm

    Albaladejo reminds me of Chris Britton– the guy who doesn’t have very good stuff but does well in Spring Training and the minors, and everyone clamors for him to make the roster over the superior guys.

    I really don’t think his stuff plays well at the ML level, especially over a guy like Robertson and eventually Melancon.

  163. GreenBeret7 March 21st, 2009 at 3:24 pm

    And, the Yanks bring in there travelling squad.

  164. GreenBeret7 March 21st, 2009 at 3:25 pm

    Yanks bring in ***their***

  165. Joe from Long Island March 21st, 2009 at 4:48 pm

    I think Edwar will break with the team. I keep reading that they love how he is different (has that change up) from the other relievers. Veras is one to watch who might be traded. That’s fine with me, I don’t trust Jose in a tight situation. He still makes me nervous with the walks.

  166. Commish March 21st, 2009 at 4:54 pm

    I’d vote to keep the YMCA if they’d get rid of Cotton Eyed Joe.

  167. IRA March 21st, 2009 at 7:06 pm

    Feel bad for Phil Hughes Hope he gets another chance real soon. Hope he also took the demotion well and Yankees are careful with him in the cooler climate in April. Hope Robertson comes North. Did you get a chance to see Bleitch pitch?

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