Pitching plans for this week
Posted by: Peter Abraham - Posted in Misc on Mar 22, 2009 
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Here are how the starters are set up for this week:
Monday at Phillies: Tomko (Wang in the minors)
Tuesday vs. Boston: Burnett
Wednesday: Team off; Pettitte in minors
Thursday at Phillies: Chamberlain
Friday vs. Reds: Sabathia
Saturday vs. Braves: Tomko (Wang in the minors)
Sunday vs. Pirates: Burnett
Nice, we get to see Joba on YES
Pete:
Do you think this means Tomko is winning the race over Aceves? I think Alfredo was OK today, and that he’s getting better each outing. Your thoughts?
Dice-K’s pitch count rising fast. Mid-season form for him.
dice-k pitching scared. love it…
“Why bring up Jeter? Huh? The dude is single. Different rules. Try again”
one has to be married, to be a ‘womanizer’ then?
good to know.
mel,
It’s sad that the A-Rod apologists need to try and (unsuccessfully) bury Jeter just to make A-Rod look better.
In reality, it just makes them look more misinformed. Jeter has nothing to do with A-Rod. Jeter is looked at as the ambassador of baseball in baseball circles and A-Rod is laughed at it
Amazing that Dice K starts to face real mlb hitters he reverts to the typical Dice K rather than how he has been pitching in the WBC up until now.
Rather than go after hitters he is nibbling.
Is anyone at all concerned that Brett Tomko, who has been pretty bad throughout his career, has the chance to be our long-man. Yes, some might diminish that importance, but cmon…why would he figure it out now, with the Yankees in spring training. Is he Darrell Rasner?
Atleast Jeter breaks up with a girl before moving on to the next one.
ARod cheated on his wife and kids with a hooker.
You guys are really reaching to defend ARod….
good job by Oswalt there
Starks,
I can’t decide if it’s funny or sad watching people try to justify steroids, adultery, and prostitution.
jack – i don’t really think any of us should be holding anybody to any *moral standards.* every person does their own thing. as long as he’s not breaking laws, it is what it is. arod’s only flaw is not keeping it private but then again, he doesn’t have to.
it’s why none of us should care what any athlete we watch does as a person. only keep the emotional connection to them as a player on the field and that’s it. i’m sure jeter has some ghosts too – he’s just awesome at hiding them.
m -
I bet these A-Rod apologists will cheer when A-Rod breaks the milestones and say ‘everyone did steroids’, so his numbers aren’t tainted.
“I can’t decide if it’s funny or sad watching people try to justify steroids, adultery, and prostitution.”
Or in the case of Arod’s blond she-hulk pal in Toronto, all three?
(to be serious, not every person is trying to justify Arod’s behavior; some are simply trying to put it in perspective)
I cannot believe how this topic never dies – if we all agreed on everything life would be pretty boring.
I don’t think there is a right or wrong in terms of fan opinion, but we can respect each other enough to agree to disagree, right?
Do the “anti-arods” want to just go ahead and delete all his numbers? Do you want the other 100+ names released? Do you want to know what other indescretions atheletes conduct on a daily basis? Or, do you just not like him for whatever reason and find this another flag to raise?
Nick in SF
What did you think of the BSG finale?
Oops. That’s alleged use of prostitution. But he’s probably guilty because all the players use ‘em right?
Zodiac,
Be prepared for the “Pitchers were using them, too” defense.
zodiac and m – did you guys support bill clinton? b/c he blatantly lied to the american public and cheated on his wife. but he also was a good president for us. my point is that what a person does outside of their said profession shouldn’t matter to us b/c it’s none of our business. as long as they perform on their job, that’s all that should matter. again, everyone has their flaws and everyone has done questionable things. the only difference is that we know more about some than others. it’s probably best not to use it as a judging criteria b/c it then everyone will look bad.
nick – that’s a good way of putting it…just try to put what they do in perspective. really, who are *we* to judge anyone? i sure wouldn’t like anybody judging me.
Nick in SF
What did you think of the BSG finale?
This is a pretty good game.
sorry double post
uncle ellsworth – bsg’s 2nd half of season 4 was disspointing to me. there just seemed to be so many wasted episodes and less disclosure for an ending series. the finale was ok but still dissapointing.
(to be serious, not every person is trying to justify Arod’s behavior; some are simply trying to put it in perspective)
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Exactly, Nick. Spot on.
roberts with two makeable plays there…
Nick,
Good point.
I cheer for the player, but not the person in this case. As a Yankee fan, I wish he’d stop the embarrassing behavior of the field. I’m sure the Yankees would like it to stop as well.
But people need to stop fighting for the wrong and use a different argument to defend him.
I could even accept the “Let’s cheer for A-rod because he’s a Yankee” argument over justifying it by saying everyone does it (which isn’t even true).
oswalt losing it here…
how can you be an outfielder, a professional major league outfielder, and not have a strong arm (like dunn)???
Damn!
Okay, so Team USA better pick up the pace both in the field and at the plate.
Uncle Ellsworth: I don’t want to say anything specific about the BSG finale so as not to spoil it for poeple who might not have watched it yet.
I will say that, while a few of the specifics might not have completely worked for me, it was pretty satisfying on an emotional leval and I was totally riveted to my set. A couple times I had to pause it because it was so intense (and because I had a couple shekels riding on the ncaa hoops games going on at the same time).
The first hour (last week’s ep) looks better now that I understand that it wasn’t meant to stand alone, it was always supposed to be a 3-hour finale seen at one time. And I’ve read that 15-20 minutes will be added to the dvd release.
I’m hoping that a few things make more sense when “The Plan” is released. But two thumbs up for the finale, for sure.
abcd I pretty much agree re: Battlestar.
It did cement Tigh as my favorite character. It was good to see Baltar and Cap 6 together again too.
Here come the Japanese.
Nothing like a noodle arm in the outfield.
adam dunn is not helping
jeez, these NL pitchers kill me…
Ok… find another player who did steroids, cheated on his wife, lied to Katie Couric (and Gammons), hooked up with a prostitute, kisses a mirror etc. and he will be bashed endlessly just like A-Rod is.
This hooker thing is not an isolated incident. This is a pattern of low character judgment.
abcd, the bane of my baseball existence is watching outfielders who throw like I do.
roberts cost us a critical run this inning…
Oswalt with a Peavy-like performance lol
Shame.
where is davey johnson or the pitching coach? wth are they doing?
The wheels have fallen off the bus.
US trying very hard to lose this game.
Where’s Peavy?
i give oswalt and peavy props for joining the team unlike a bunch of other pansies…but jeez man, these NL aces aren’t that great…
trisha – i’m almost 100% certain that you have a stronger arm than dunn…
so how many pitches is that this inning?
AJ against the Sox should be interesting…
Thanks Nick.
Though it was emotional I was expecting my gut wrenched a little more. Good not great.
Houston we have a problem.
Believe it or not, a lot of people actually took pride in A-Rod being the Clean HR king and being able to witness it over the next 10 years and have that apart of Yankees franchise history.
Now? He’s a nobody. His numbers mean nothing.
People need root for the uniform… not the players. Hope that A-Rod carries us to the WS.
if any of you fancy a good challenge: 7 minutes to guess all MLB managers for all 30 teams.
http://www.sporcle.com/games/mlbmanagers.php
davey johnson has done a downright horrible job as the manager of this team…
Wow, its amazing how overrated some of these NL pitches are. I know that its still March, but everyone knows, that these dominant numbers that certain NL pitches put up are just so skewed its not even funny.
All I want AJ to do against Boston is work on that change. If he isin’t going to do it in ST, when is he ever going to try it? It doesn’t matter if he gets shelled, thats what ST is for.
As CB said, that pitch is very important for him as a turning point in his career.
It’s early. Let’s see what happens.
So maybe Jeter will be coming back soon? We will see.
“But people need to stop fighting for the wrong and use a different argument to defend him.”
That’s not what most reasonable people are doing though. And generally when they comment with an attempt to put things in some kind of perspective, they get labeled as “apologists”.
Sometimes it feels like unless you join in on the pile-on him by making cracks and judgments about him, you’re labeled an apologist and that’s just wrong. There has to be a middle ground
And Davey Torre wakes up long enough to decide that he’s seen enough. Nothing like a day late and a dollar short with that hook.
However, Team Japan scored 4 runs in an inning. Now let’s see Team USA do the same thing.
And they still get him.
Angel – i agree…I would say 95% of the time I type up a post I don’t submit to not appear to be an “apologist”…I could care less about any of this as long as the Yankees win/do well
Let’s get a couple back!
Through 4 innings, Roy was 66 pitches, 20 batters. Dice was 80 pitches, 18 batters.
Agree with Doreen. It’s early.
“It’s early. Let’s see what happens.”
Agree. Team USA can still come back.
GOOD ON YA JETE!
Joe- i solved it with 4:07 remaining
Maybe I’m grading BSG on a curve, I watched the first 3 seasons and “Razor” on dvd in a few months and only watched season 4 in ‘real’ time. Anyway, fans of the show who have already watched the finale might find lots of interest here:
http://tinyurl.com/dmkbaq
There’s an interview with Ron Moore and some of the cast as well as links to lots of other info. It may help put some things in perspective, which we all now agree is a good thing.
Meanwhile, it’s not too late for the USA to come back in this game. So say we all!
“just cut the lead in half”
Look what the NL did for Sabathia. What he did last year was unearthly.
Santana looked like he was on his way down in Minnesota, only to have the best ERA of his career for the Mets.
Heck, even Karstens did well for the Pirates.
The NL is so inferior. Very few top pitchers will translate well here.
lol – two guys get on – japanese coach comes out. oswalt gives up 52 consecutive singles and davey johnson is eating sunflower seeds…
Fatsuzaka being Fatsuzaka. USA can still make it. Go destroy the Red Sox “ace”
look at pettite go to the NL and just outright dominate. pitching #’s really have to be taken with a grain of salt for those guys…
To be fair to Davey, the rules are very prohibitive. If he goes to his pen too early and uses up some guys, he won’t have them available for tomorrow in the potential finals game if they throw too many pitches.
But all in all, he has done a dreadful job managing.
Wright’s at least making him work.
Angel,
Then why post “everyone does it” if you don’t condone his behavior?
And someone said that everyone that’s ragging on A-rod would love to get half the action he does. Uh. No. So not true.
zman – no tomorrow if they don’t win today…
too close to take david. what’s up with these mets and being caught looking?
can Dunn atone with a big hit?
He’s sure capable of doing it.
Two week until opening day!!
I don’t care one way or the other about A-Rod. As long as he hits, let him do whatever he wants off the field.
Reading some of the responses here, clearly some go out of their way to defend him and look very foolish doing so. Some of this stuff is indefensible. Taking the “everybody does/did it” argument is the easy way out.
Then you had some people make up rumors about Jeter and other people which Pete rightfully deleted. Thats when it gets too much and reinforces the ‘apologist’ angle.
Anyone else notice how awful this umpire is? He’s completely inconsistent it would be infuriating to be hitting under those circumstances.
You just knew Dunn would strike out there…
I don’t know what’s more painful, watching Team USA get knocked around or having to listen to Morgan and his girlfriend Miller.
if steve phillips is the best announcer in the booth, hit the SAP button on your remote…
“…and his girlfriend Miller.”
Just curious, what do you mean by that?
M – I don’t count what the posters who only show up to pile on Pete the minute he posts something about A-Rod as the people I’m talking about though. I guess, that’s who I categorize those people as, and I agree they’re really just being a tad idiotic, and they almost have a bit too much invested in things.
Have you ever noticed how most of them are never heard from when baseball is being discussed? lol
Nick-
I guess she means morgan is dating miller.
That catch kind of sums out the way this game is going tonight. Team USA certainly isn’t catching any breaks.
Ok, I guess the game isn’t going well and I don’t think most of us are enamored of talking about madams and the like, so here’s this:
http://mlb.mlb.com/news/articl.....8;c_id=mlb
The dual press conference ended up being a really special thing, I think – it certainly has linked CC and AJ together. Call of Duty sounds kind of fun – I’ll bet it’s pretty addictive.
Oswalt is a bum
I guess the middle ground I’m talking about is those who don’t condone what A-Rod does in his personal life, but aren’t going to pile on him for it either. I don’t agree with what he does, but I agree even less with the attention and time in the papers and given that’s given to it. Octomom etc. etc. UGH.
I’m a pretty live and let live person when it comes to other people’s private lives for the most part, though. I hate magazines like US/People and I want to smack Perez Hilton’s face every time someone on my FaceBook sends me a link to his “latest”.
I want to smack Perez Hilton’s face every time someone on my FaceBook sends me a link to his “latest”.
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I can’t stand Perez-Dlisted.com baby. Chock full of snark.
So, this WBC game isn’t going too well for the USA
great article, Betsy
it’s nice to see how well they are all meshing
Oswalt can be hittable if you swing early in he count, thats what Japan did
the errors didn’t help either…
“I can’t stand Perez-Dlisted.com baby. Chock full of snark.”
Me either S.A. It’s not even the snark so much that makes me loathe him – its the fact that most of it is hypocritical, uninformed snark.
Japan’s #9 hitter is hitting .600 … which games does that include? Did they all start at .000 today?
A-Rod just seems to abnormal compared to the rest of the team.
While these guys are all normal and like to do mundane things like fish, play video games, go to NBA games, A-Rod hangs out with hookers.
Torre’s book was 100% right on Alex though
Torre has become the new Jose Canseco LOL
No one is normal-we are all little weirdos
Nice hearing John Morgan on ESPN… reminds us that baseball season is upon us.
“Torre has become the new Jose Canseco LOL”
That’s not really very complimentary.
i though burnett was skipping boston and going minor league game
at work,
so I log on MLB TV, to see the remaining of the WBC game. “Sorry you’ve been blacked out. All USA semi-final games will be blacked out in the US”
Bud Selig, you’re a genius. Try lowering the ticket prices.
gotta start chipping away here…
Did YES blackout the WBC too?
Dam them!!!
I love reading these types of articles, Rishi. Even though chemistry supposedly doesn’t matter and even though I think winning does breed chemistry, I still think that a team that is bonded together will find it easier to get through the dog days than a team that is constantly sniping at each other.
This is completely off-subject, but I noticed a few days ago that Whitey Lockman died (he played for the NY Giants). I would not have been familar with him at all except for the WS highlights aired on MLB network. I feel especially sad (it’s always sad when someone dies) because in an odd way, I feel like I got to know him as a player.
Interestingly, he was quoted fairly recently as saying that he hurt his shoulder pretty badly when he and his teammates carried Bobby Thomson on their shoulders after his pennant-winning HR and it messed him up for the WS that year. RIP Whitey
Teddy, he was going to, but the Yanks have their Boys and Girls Club luncheon that day and they wanted AJ and Jorge to be in Tampa for that (instead of travelling to a minor-league game)
Speaking of Jose Canseco…. A-Rod tried to steal his wife too, didn’t he?
It’s impossible to root for this guy. Just hit the ball in Oct, Alex.
It’s those articles that humanize the players…you like that the feel accountable to one another – it is the way it should be and a strong sign of success to come…I cannot wait for the games to count
Wow he was really trucking. Too bad it’s a two-out hit.
Man Rollins is such a winning player. He is openly confident and backs it up every time
Always was one of my fav. players. Glad that he won his WS ring last year.
Wright, how do you swing at that?
That looked like A-Rod against Fuasto Carmona in the playoffs.
What in hell was he swinging at.
Well, the worst Team USA will finish in this tournament is 4th. Last time around they finished 8th.
Do they really have to keep saying team before the country every single time?
thanks betsy
Anyone else just realize that the Yankees are actually better than Team USA?
Looks like it’s gonna be Japan-Korea in the finals. Go Korea!
Anyone know where Jorge is catching tomorrow? Will be be catching Wanger in the minors tomorrow?
I thought we were 15th? 8th sounds better, though.
I’ll add one more ‘sad’ to the many I’ve already posted. It’s sad to see the home opener countdown on the Yankee site. It seems like months from now.
The Ramirez Provision. I’m all for giving money to charity, but to be a requirement as part of the players contract? I dunno.
http://www.latimes.com/sports/.....0647.story
myrtle,
Team Yankees are better than a lot of teams. Just don’t try to convince espn of that!
Pete’s season preview and predictions will be interesting. Hard to see him picking against a rotation of CC/WA/AJ/AP/JA. Pressure’s on you, Pete!
Wow, this Mahara guy looks great. 94-95 with a lot of tailing action to his fastball.
We need to start scouting Japan and Korea much better. They have some big time arms.
S.A. -
I saw that reported the other day and had the same reaction as you did.
Not sure. Most of these guys donate to charity already. I suppose if the player has no problem with it, then it’s fine. If the player has a problem, I guess it could be a deal-breaker.
My thought is no one should be forced to donate – encouraged, sure, but not forced.
The problem is the US team is trying to serve two masters – the WBC plus the obligation to the MLB teams. No other team has to deal with that. This will never be a “fair” situation for the US. They have to take part to lend legitimacy, but they will always be at a disadvantage because of timing.
Has anyone signed up for Extra Innings on Charter???
I called them last week, and they said to call back “in a week or two”, which would mean right as the season is starting.
I’m suspicious now that Charter is even carrying Extra Innings in 2009. They claimed they were, but they lie.
Does anyone have any info?
Thanks!
USA does have the advantage of playing the games at home though and not traveling across the world. If this were like the World Cup then it’d be held at different sites each time and then the U.S. would really not be able to attract its top players.
Pete defending gossip reporting as news is as puzzling to me as people defending Alex’s off field activities.
IMO, “Everyone does it” doesn’t cut the mustard but everyone writing or talking about gossip doesn’t mean it’s newsworthy either.
I read the Journal News everyday and Pete reports little of what he writes on this blog. Space is surely a consideration but IF all the Alex stuff really was news that needs to be reported, it would be reported there and it hasn’t been.
Sorry to bring the conversation back here but I was out all day and some of the things I skimmed made me feel the need to say that.
Awesome. That answered my question about whether McCann would be able to get past the momentum and recognize ball 4 if it came.
YEAH BABY…LET’S GO!!!!!
USA USA USA!!!!!!!!!
My thought is no one should be forced to donate – encouraged, sure, but not forced.
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Yup, that’s pretty much how I feel about it.
Oh look at that 6-4 now. Team USA with signs of life.
DESEPRATE HOUSEWIFE TIME!!!
THIS IS AWESOME!!!!!
I love Longoria.
Seranwrap -
You’re right about the travel.
I want to take out my use of the word “fair,” quotations or not. I mean they US will always be at some disadvantage regarding players available and timing. BUT it doesn’t mean they are not able to overcome any disadvantage.
just get a sac fly…come on…
this guys got a good fastball, if he keeps pumping them in there i hope longoria can jack one
two filthy pitches
dang…
victorino is clutch and been in this type of situation before. huge 2nd guess on davey johnson there…
Oh dear.
Atonement time for Brian. I hope.
Adam ‘the bull’ (WFAN)
“Joba has an electric arm. I want him to be a starter”
“We already know what Melky can do. It’s time to give Gardner the job”
finally, a WFAN talk show host who has a brain. God bless you Adam.
Oh well
pat,
Because anything involving A-Rod generates twice as many comments/blog hits as normal baseball discussion.
The game thread got almost 500 comments for a meaningless Spring game on a Sunday afternoon (in a game Aceves started that was not well played and lackluster).
People say they don’t care about A-Rod, but the comments and traffic this site generates suggest otherwise.
another 9th innning like against PR?
Ugh….gotta get that run in with less than two outs.
Adam the Bull is a Cubs fan, but he’s awesome
gotta hold them here…
dang, victorino would’ve put the ball in play and brought the run in. oh well…
jeter + jroll + wright up in the 9th…
Nice to see Team USA put more runs on the board in any event.
The heart of the lineup is up next inning.
or maybe we all are dying without baseball and talking about something generally baseball related is better than something not baseball related. lol
Joel Hanrahan?
Where are Shields/Putz/Broxton?
wait, so he puts in victorino now?!?!??! so he won’t be able to bat up or pinch run?!?!?! jeez louise peas and rice…
I too think Victorino would have brought the run home. I got psyched to see Longoria up there because he is so cluth in the season but Victorino has been there.
On the other hand, we really need to hold Team Japan here…
uh – the point is to not give those runs back…
“Adam the Bull is a Cubs fan, but he’s awesome”
yes. Never heard him before. He actually thinks like a normal sports fan.
where the heck is putz?!?!?
what the heck is this?!?!? get this fool off the mound. has davey nodded off again?
if we lose, it’s on davey johnson.
lol next to Hawkins, Hanrahan is the worst reliever on the team.
Davey trying to get him some work in during an elimination game
Genius.
YU DARVISH WARMING UP FOR JAPAN
Eek
JETER NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!
“risha – As long as you’re in pinstripes, Kei, I’ve got your back. March 22nd, 2009 at 10:58 pm
I too think Victorino would have brought the run home. I got psyched to see Longoria up there because he is so cluth in the season but Victorino has been there.
On the other hand, we really need to hold Team Japan here…”
I could see what he was thinking, Victorino would make contact but he was thinking longball from Longoria….that’s the gamble you take; don’t think it was the worst move…that would be leaving in Oswalt while he’s getting lit up
oh derek……
Umm Derek don’t do that in a real games that matters.
Ow, Jete!
Darvish will get them out 1-2-3. He is lights out.
USA had their chance with the runner on 3rd 1 out
dang…bad error for jeter…sigh…
Jeter just perpetuating the talk about his defense.
Wow jeter
What a riot. NOW he brings in another pitcher.
Oh. my. god.
Serves Davey right for putting Jeter in the field over Rollins.
JETER NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Jeter is going to be an unbelievable liability during the season.
Cashman and Girardi better be talking about his next position.
“YU DARVISH WARMING UP FOR JAPAN”
beginning to suspect he may be hype. Dice K part 2.
Rollins should have been at SS in the field every game
Somehow, that was Alex’s fault.
(kidding)
“don’t think it was the worst move…that would be leaving in Oswalt while he’s getting lit up”
yeah
The left side of our infield is going to be awful this year.
Jason Stark was 100% right.
Wow. Jeter allowed the other team to get an insurance run in 2 straight elimination games.
Eduardo Nunez.. please put those tools together ASAP. We cannot have Jeter out there anymore
Though the game was lost when Odwalt was allowed to give up 5 runs in an inning.
Lay off Jeter.
He’s one of the 24 altar boys who play along side the evil adulterous clown Arod.
And that’s that.
Well that’s the game Ladies and Gents.
vinny- for this situation i sure hope darvish is just hype
Hanrahan should have never been in there to begin with.
You have Scott Shields. JJ Putz. Jonathan Broxton all available
all available and you go to a reject from the Washington Nationals?
so – when do we expect these guys back in camp? Tuesday? Wednesday? Time to start focusing on games that “count”
Arod can sleep with a million hookers for all I care. Being an altar boy doesn’t win you games. Let Jeter walk.
adam dunn? are you kidding me?
ADAM DUNN IS THE WORST OUTFIELDER EVER
Good lord.
uh – from bad to worse
Just saw a photo of ARod’s “madam” — she’s kinda funky looking. You’d think ARod would be into pretty women, but I guess not.
Dunn lets the ball go by him.
This is comical now. Welcome home Jeter.
Oh well.
Jeter’s error killed them. Run #8 wouldn’t have scored if run #7 didn’t score. Can’t believe what Dunn just did.
And now run #9.
What a great ballplayer Dunn is…Too bad the Yanks didn’t sign him…lol
S.A.: Jeter was distracted by word that Arod comparisons were being made. If you can read lips you would see that he was muttering “hey, I’m still single” while he was (mis)handling that play.
Arod strays, the USA flays.
Its almost laughable at this point….
“Lay off Jeter. He’s one of the 24 altar boys who play along side the evil adulterous clown Arod”
lol
This has turned disgusting.
Do you think the team gets a message from the manager that he’s not managing to win, so, what the hay?
It’s over. Jeter error and Dunn a LAZY AZZ!
wow…japan is no joke. they just kept putting the pressure on…unreal.
Dunnbreu?
so two of those runs were unearned, the last was earned
The problem is the awful defense throughout the field.
Braun has no position (he masks as a LF)
Dunn is awful anywhere he plays
DeRosa is not a 1B
Jeter is an awful SS
Let this be a lesson to those who want Swisher in CF over Gardner. Defense and pitching win.
“Wow. Jeter allowed the other team to get an insurance run in 2 straight elimination games”
someone said Ironside in his wheel-chair, would have more range then Jeter at SS
i tend to agree
Jeter was distracted by word that Arod comparisons were being made. If you can read lips you would see that he was muttering “hey, I’m still single” while he was (mis)handling that play.
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LOL Nick
“Dunnbreu?”
INDEED
Geez, I nearly had a heart attack because I thought Jeter was hurt.
This is going to be a long season if people are going to get on Jeter’s case when he doesn’t get a hit or makes an error. Talk about panic……wow
“Let this be a lesson to those who want Swisher in CF over Gardner. Defense and pitching win”
yup. It is why Japan won last year
and fundamentals (bunting, moving runner over etc)
Doreen: are you saying that Davey Johnson is treating this game like a hay ride?
Glad to see there are no “Jeter apologists” here tonight lol
The 3 stooges actually just said something that made sense. All the other teams are playing and doing anything to win. Johnson has played this game like an all star game. Leaving Oswalt out then to get smacked around. I thought after the 4th run he would be gone, and not going to a better reliever to start the 8th.
the USA could really use Kei “Houdini” Igawa closing for Team Japan right now.
lotta weird people on here…jeter makes 1 error and now hes done?…we all know hes not great defensively but hes passable…one error today doesnt change that
Darvish took a while to kick in the other night. However something makes me think that he doesn’t have 6 runs worth of adjustment time
should be an interesting post-game interview…
Jeter’s defense has looked atrocious during the WBC. Worse than last year.
He is near finished, sadly.
Damn urls not working.
Darvish wants no part of MLB.
Thank god. If the Yanks signed him he’d be Igawa II. On any other team he’d probably be a Cy Young.
Nick -
A hay ride would have been more fun! (I’m allergic to hay rides).
Now we can get to focusing 100% on the season.
dang…that was deflating.
this is on davey johnson. tonight’s game had nothing ot do with politics despite espn’s excuse making.
- not sending a picthing coach to talk to oswalt
- bringing in victorino as a defensive replacement taking him out of hte lineup or for pinch running
- bringing in hanrahan
just terrible managing that had nothing to do with politics.
As Michael Kay once said when talking about what will happen w/ Jeter after 2010, “How long do you keep having to pay for the 90s?”
cold hearted Cashman probably would want to move on but the Steinbrenners may have a different idea; I think you can’t have a DH w/o power
Ack! 9-4?
Thats quite a mountain to climb in the 9th.
This should have been Team USA:
Teixiera at 1B
Mauer at C
Rollins SS
Sizemore CF
Longoria 3B
Wright DH
Pedroia 2B
Holladay LF
RF?
“jeter makes 1 error and now hes *done*?”
He’s not done, Dunn is in right field. (or a statue of him is)
btw – that Rollins is having a great game…
Jeter is near finished?
Have I entered a parallel universe? lol
Why wasn’t Rollins starting at SS?
Why was Joel Hanrahan pitching in an elimination game down 2 runs?
Davey lost them the game
imho, i think jeter retires when his deal is up…
Betsy I can tell you that I am not at all panicking. I’m being a realist. Jeter’s skills have slipped. Maybe he’s spending too much time pining over Minka, maybe it’s a function of age, maybe it’s a lot of things. But he hasn’t been the same player who won the MVP in the All Star Game and the World Series in the same year, in a long long time.
My opinion.
Darvish is looking good. Keith Law thinks he has the stuff to be a legit MLB #1 type if he ever came over to MLB.
Jeter and Wright should be used to this type of game. Jeter from recent Yankee play off games and Wright from his team thinking the season ends in August.
PUT ON YOUR RALLY CAPS
USA USA USA
OK MAYBE NOT TONIGHT
it’s “never say die” J. Rollins…didn’t he realize a triple was the only way to score?
i do think jeter starting at SS was political. but his error wasn’t the reason we lost this game – although it hurt. davey’s nap in the 4th inning is why we lost this game.
“He’s not done, Dunn is in right field. (or a statue of him is)”
This should have been Team USA:
Teixiera at 1B
Mauer at C
Rollins SS
Sizemore CF
Longoria 3B
Wright DH
Pedroia 2B
Holladay LF
RF markakis
abcd,
I hope so. I hope Jeter doen’t embarrass himself trying to get 3,000 hits.
Retirement is the only thing that makes sense for Jeter after 2010.
‘Now we can get to focusing 100% on the season.’
That’s right ignore that Japanese team whooping Team USA all over the field. Srsly the game isn’t as advanced here as people think.
and Dunn in for the grand finale?
Wow, I am hoping this is due to it being early in the year and not in baseball shape yet, but Jeter is a frigging statue out there
I heard them saying the other night that Darvish said he would retire before he would play in the MLB and he hoped Japan would never put him in that position. He said that the Japanese kids who want to play baseball need role models right there in Japan.
“lotta weird people on here…jeter makes 1 error and now hes done?…we all know hes not great defensively but hes passable…one error today doesnt change that”
he’s had a couple this tournament, he had a big E during that Puerto Rico comeback game, I’ve cringed watching him play this WBC, specifically defensively and also I’m not sure if he’s hit a ball out of the infield
good for you, Yu – just stay there and do what you’ve got to do
dunn apparently is a statue at the plate as well…
Well, at least we’ll get Jetes back at Yankee camp earlier. Those intangibles have been missed.
Welcome home Derek
great way to end it – ok a K
and..that’s all folks.
Welcome back Jeets
See you on Tuesday Jeter, against those nasty Soxs…
Cashman has shown he has no sentimentality towards past greats and only looks at the present and future.
As Torre indicated in his book, Cashman is a stat guy and he isin’t going to re-sign an aging Jeter with non-existent defense and no power.
He will let him walk if he is no longer a good player. Unless Hank/Hal intervene like they did for A-Rod, Jeter is likely gone in 2010.
Come on home Derek
There are a few truly horrible Yankee fans here.
Whatever Jetes was doing in the WBC I hope he leaves it over there, because that was near pathetic.
Yu da man? Bah.
Go Korea. I hope to dine on celebratory yukejang tomorrow night.
Or kimchee ramen, I guess. Whatever.
Re: Darvish, I read that too. How long could he resist the $$$ and the chance to prove himself in the best league in the world though? Unless he likes being the big fish in a small pond.
Okay, I have a question for those of you that are somewhat familiar with seating at the new Yankee Stadium – well those of you that have ticket plans. I’m buying tickets for a game in April and I want to know where the best area is to get seats (getting them on stubhub) without having to sell my firstborn to do so? Because I get to one game every couple of years I’m willing to pay more than bleachers/grandstand seats, but not quite as much as legends/field areas. Any ideas?
Trisha,
I read an article last year where Darvish’s dad pretty much offered him up to the Red Sox, how he loves the New England area, looks up to Dice-K yadayada, so who knows…not that the Yanks should care, cause they never have luck with Japanese pitchers.
Congratulations to Team Japan. They obviously deserved this win.
That said, I will say that both Korea and Japan have been practicing and playing ball together for this tournament a lot longer than the other teams have had the opportunity to do. So maybe it makes sense that there are in a lot better shape in terms of being in good baseball form.
You would gave thought Oswalt would gave pitched better – a win would have given him an extra day away from those hapless Astros.
The enemy of my enemy is my friend, thus, let’s hope Japan gets stomped tomorrow.
Jeter will be ok with his boyfriend Wright giving him massages on the way back to New York.
Trish, I’m going to avoid getting into serious discussions about Jeter because I honestly feel (and my comments were not directed to you specifically) that there is a lot of unnecessary panicking about Jeter because he’s not that good defensively. He should have won the 2006 MVP and I think his 2007 #s were fine. We can not forget that he played much of last season with a terribly sore, near-broken wrist. I’m confident that he is going to have a very good year and I guess I’ll leave it at that. I don’t care about the WBC so I didn’t watch tonight. He made one error, but I don’t believe in blaming a fielder because a pitcher can’t pitch around an error. One run ? Understandble. 4 or 5 runs? There’s no excuse for not making sufficient pitches to minimize the damage.
I respect your opinions, but I think we just disagree on this. I’m glad Jeter is coming back to camp and I honestly don’t care what his critics (I don’t mean on this board, I mean in general) say – I just want the season to start.
Do something Pete.
Congrats to Team Japan they clearly are the better baseball team. Fundamentally sound, great approach to hitting + coaching and pitching.
I love Jeter. He was and still is my favorite player. He represented the franchise well (unlike A-Roid) and has been nothing but class.
That being said, he has declined significantly. It’s not even about numbers. Watch the guy play, he isin’t close to what he was in his prime. His defense may be the worst of any player at any position in MLB.
You cannot re-sign him if you have the best interest of the on-the-field franchise in mind….
“Darvish wants no part of MLB”
better to be a superstar in Japan, than a also-ran in MLB.
not sold on pitchers from Japan.
Jerek can’t retire. He’s the captain!
Who else is gonna keep Arod in line for the next nine years?
The discipline and precision of Japanese baseball is unmatched.
You think a guy like A-Rod would survive there?
It is more than a game, it is a way of life. American baseball is all about money, stats, and HRs.
i wonder if jeter would offer playing 3rd while arod is out. probably not likely but jeter at 3rd with berroa at short is probably better than ranson at 3rd and jeter at ss.
“Cashman has shown he has no sentimentality towards past greats and only looks at the present and future.
As Torre indicated in his book, Cashman is a stat guy and he isin’t going to re-sign an aging Jeter with non-existent defense and no power”
the Steinbrenners will overrule him, as they did with Arod, Posada (who i was in favor of signing) etc.
Cashman should have just taken the job in Seattle
Jeter IS overrated.
The Yanks will NEVER tell Jeter no. It is the Steins decision not Cashmans. If he has a good season I think the most they will give him is a 1 year with a option or maybe a 2 year deal if he has 2 really good years. He won’t get anything more then that guaranteed. Maybe if they didn’t sign Tex he can play 1st..but since he did there is no other position for him. They will not have a singles hitting DH. I wonder if he would consider playing LF.. I doubt it but I don’t think he can play SS for another 4 years. He is lucky if he gets threw this year.
Betsy you are absolutely right that Jeter’s error did not lose the game. It came at a bad time of course but a lot happened in the game that was just plain ugly.
Team USA got badly outplayed. Davey Johnson’s inability to know when to pull a pitcher resonated throughout the entire tournament.
Let’s see if Francesa brings up old man Jeter on Mike’d Up now. We all know he loves the WBC.
“Who else is gonna keep Arod in line for the next nine years?”
Alex’s Dominatrix
“The discipline and precision of Japanese baseball is unmatched”
the game of baseball in Japan, reminds me of baseball in Ty Cobb’s era.
props to Japan.
just saw on sportscenter 6 errors for #2 this WBC
Don’t forget that Oswalt and co. need the work – these guys are away from their teams and still need to pitch. That’s the HUGE problem with the WBC and why I detest it. I’m glad you guys got into it and I’m sorry you were disappointed that the USA lost…….Me? I’m glad to have all our players back in camp.
vinny,
Sadly you are right. There is no way that Jeter and his agent deal with Cashman. They will go straight to Hank/Hal to negotiate. You don’t let a GM handle a negotiation like this if you’re Jeter, you go straight to the owner.
And the Steinbros will be mesmerized by the good PR he brings and how he is the Anti-ARod and a winner and true Yankee, 4 rings etc. and they will re-sign him to big money.
Cashman may have gotten ‘power’ for little things, but not for the big time players. Jeter is an issue that Hank/Hal will give in to, Cashman will have no input.
6 ers in how many games? 7? just trying to gain perspective
You know if Jeter was so selfish, he would bow out himself, just like Lou Gehrig.
I have a feeling Cashman will threaten to resign if Hank/Hal overrule him on Jeter.
Darvish has stated on more than one occassion that his primary goal is to win 200 games in Japan. He has 47 in 4 years, now.
“just saw on sportscenter 6 errors for #2 this WBC”
and that’s not including balls he didn’t get to.
Tuesday is going to be fun.
These athletes have too big egos to sacrifice anything.
Did A-Rod volunteer to give his HR chase money to charity?
I doubt Jeter agrees to move from SS.
“You know if Jeter was so selfish, he would bow out himself, just like Lou Gehrig”
if Jeter were the Saint/team player, he were accused of. He would have moved off SS, before now
Jeter is letting America down.
6 errors is down right unpatriotic.
“(Jeter’s) defense may be the worst of any player at any position in MLB.”
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Um, I think you’re getting a little carried away here. Especially after watching Abreu in RF.
Jeter’s fine at SS for 2009, take it one year at a time.
if Cashman gets overruled, he should resign…..why would any GM want to work under those conditions? I haven’t heard Henry overruling Epstein, they have no problems w/ letting guys walk and they’ve been pretty good the last 5 years
tampayank -
Seriously? 6 errors for Jeter in the whole tournament?
See, that makes me think not that he’s declining but that something must be wrong. He is NOT that bad.
I think we are getting a bit ahead of ourselves with regards to the Jeter.
Why would Cash resign over Jeter? He didn’t do it when he got overruled on Arod and Posada.
You guys really think Hal Steinbrenner is going to push Jeter out the door?
Hal admitted he knows little about baseball. Jeter’s agent is going to perform a spin job of epic proportion about the marketing/PR reasons to keep Jeter. Probably reference how A-Rod the cheater will become the new face of the franchise and damage the Yankee brand if Jeter leaves etc.
And Hal will buy it and give him a big deal. Cashman is probably going to resign over it though. But if you’re Hal and you have Jeter or Cashman, who do you pick? Hal will probably pick Jeter.
One more thing on Jeter – Whatever lack of range he showed in the WBC, maybe he was hampered by his hamstring? Who’s to say that it has fully healed?
In any case, I’m now actually sort of sorry that he’s coming back to camp as scrutiny on his play is going to be at an all-time level, at least by some folks.
Speaking of SS…Rosenthal has an article up that the Yanks will be fine once Jeter is not playing SS anymore.
Scouts, however, have been buzzing all spring about Ramiro Pena, 23, and Eduardo Nunez, 21, both of whom have received increased exposure with Jeter participating in the World Baseball Classic.
“They’re two of the better young kids I’ve seen … two legitimate core players for the future,” one scout says. “They’re not that far from being major-league ready — they have some tools and they know how to play.”
http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/s.....-shortstop
I thought Pena was a nothing hitter?
If Cashman re-signs because his owner decided to keep the face of the franchise for an extra year, then he’s probably doing us a favor. That would show how thin skinned he is, as the Daily News references.
Though like people said, Cashman is not going to be dealing with this Jeter issue. Hal is.
Pena is a nothing hitter. Don’t know what Rosenthal is talking about.
Nunez is legit though, IF he can put it together.
checked the box scores:
Jeter had 1 error (tonight) during the entire WBC.
not sure where that report was coming from. Maybe they counted mental errors or balls he didn’t get to.
You can’t remove Jeter from the team. He has to be resigned because he’s getting really close to 3,000 hits. Where is he going to get his 3,000th hit? In Boston?
Wow I think some people are over reacting.. The thing to remember is that this is spring training. No matter what MLB tries to make this tournament out to be.. it’s still spring training.
It’s pretty ridiculous how so many people are overreacting to a few meaningless games in March. The Japanese team started practicing together in January for this event. The United States “team” had three days.
Meanwhile they went through a bunch of injuries, roster moves, etc.
The schedule was so screwed up, the players barely got any practice time. Jeter didn’t play well but none of them really did.
If he had made that throw today in Port Charlotte nobody cares. But because he did at Dodger Stadium on ESPN it’s a big deal? It’s March no matter how you slice it.
Jeter is in decline but he’s still a better overall shortstop than nearly all of the other shortstops out there. The Yankees have far more problems than shortstop.
I also got a chuckle out of the idea that Cashman would resign over Jeter. He didn’t want A-Rod and he didn’t resign then. He gets paid big money for a GM and obviously has no problem dealing with assorted Steinbrenners.
Sean he would be on the bench in Boston.
Relax on Jeter’s defense. It’s only spring. Wait until the lights go on.
This is not nearly as big of an issue as the media and fans think.
Jeter will move when he’s asked to move. He’s a team player and he knows he’s slowing down.
Even the legends have been forced to move toward the end of their careers (Yogi and Mantle) and he’s certainly no different than those guys.
I wouldn’t want to be the guy who succeeds Jeter at shortstop, but everyone knows, including Jeter, what’s best for the team.
Jeter has turned into Bill Buckner.
carl,
Are you serious? You think Lowrie with that million-watt smile would beat out Jeter?
carl, I kind of knew that. I used Boston for the, “drama” effect.
There’s lots of baseball to play between now and the end of the 2010 season so it’s a little premature to write Jeter’s obit.
How dare we forget.
Happy Belated Birthday Francesa. Nice cake
Atleast Jeter doesn’t have a madam….
I can’t believe people are killing Jeter
He has represented the organization with nothing but class. He is the exact opposite of A-Rod.
I think Jeter would be on the bench. His defense doesn’t exist.
Holy smoke! It’s 12:00 AM! I have to be in bed!
“I also got a chuckle out of the idea that Cashman would resign over Jeter. He didn’t want A-Rod and he didn’t resign then. He gets paid big money for a GM and obviously has no problem dealing with assorted Steinbrenners.”
How do we know that’s true, Peter?
I don’t recall anyone reporting at the time that Cash didn’t want to resign ARod (including you, Peter).
It’s only now, with the endless parade of negative press (steroids, Madonna, Divorce, Hookers, Dominatrix, Hip surgery) do we “hear” from beat writers that Cash was against ARod all along.
I just can’t help thinking, if that’s true, then we would of “heard” it in real time.
Yeah that’s right Pete because Jetes was clearly playing that game like he didn’t care right ? Look age catches up that’s the reality and he didn’t look good at SS in the WBC, he has alot to improve on for 2009 but right now what we saw wasn’t good.
OTish but Eduardo Nunez needs to be patient to even be put anywhere on the field. He’s a great glove, has more range, yes sadly more range than #2 but he is a project when it comes to hitting w/ patience.
LOL I appreciate you defending DJ, Pete, but just you make it sound like the Yankees have tons of problems. I guess we can assume you’re picking them to finish a distant third in the AL East?
Again, maybe Jeter’s hamstring is still not completely healed. As to his hitting, boy we have high standards for this guy. He should have won the MVP in 2006, he was fine in 2007 and because his stats (after playing with a nearly broken hand) were way down on 2008, he’s in major decline? I venture to say that he will have a very good 2009 – and I’m confident in that.
I agree Pete– we have far more issues this year than Jeter.
He has represented the organization with nothing but class. He is the exact opposite of A-Rod.
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What does class have to do with the issue of his defense?
It doesn’t.
Everybody here loves Jeter. But the fact is that his defense is in steep decline and he’ll have to move from SS sooner rather than later.
He’ll do what’s best for the team. He’s prided himself on being a leader his entire career and knows his time at SS is coming close to an end.
If Jeter is playing hurt, he should be held in the same regard as Cano and Marte.
Without Jeter it would be complete chaos.
The captain runs a tight ship.
He keeps the Arod circus off the field.
if DJ leaves –
you’ll see Arod hookers on the field between innings.
Madonna songs will be played during the 5th inning instead of the sacred YMCA.
Alex will take off his uniform top and sun himself in LF if a pitcher is taking too long between pitches.
During pitching changes, Arod will pull something from his uniform back pocket – he’ll then preen, smile and kiss the mirror before putting back in his pocket.
During at bats Alex will wear NYY logo earphones not connected to anything.
I don’t recall anyone reporting at the time that Cash didn’t want to resign ARod (including you, Peter).
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Cashman stated many times that if A-Rod had opted out then the team was going to go in a different direction.
He said that a number of times.
So when A-Rod wasn’t getting the offers he sought – he called Hank Steinbrenner and worked out the deal.
It was a big surprise when the news started trickling in that A-Rod was coming back to the Yanks because the team had clearly moved on to try and find a new third baseman.
Giuseppe Franco-
when has jeter ever been a “leader”?
Yes, he was hitter clutch up to 2006, until injuries and age took their toll, but he has never been a club house “leader”.
Countdown,
Don’t know for sure how we know that Cashman didn’t want Alex back, but we know it.
Probably had something to do with 1)the opt-out even though the Yankees gave the ultimatum and 2)the attitude after the opt-out. And this is a quote, “That ship has sailed”.
So he was probably less than happy that Al was given a real sweetheart of a deal. And for no less than 10 years. Of course he signed on again, but personally I think that’s so he could set the ship back on the right course.
“If Cashman re-signs because his owner decided to keep the face of the franchise for an extra year, then he’s probably doing us a favor. That would show how thin skinned he is, as the Daily News references”
you can call Cashman what you want. “Thin-skinned” probably isn’t one of them, tho
GF, I agree with you, but there is a large contingent of Yankee fans (not just here) that basically think Jeter is through. I’m confident he is going to be very good with the bat this year – what about you?
Can’t judge Jeter by stats.
Watch the guy play— he isin’t the player he once was. He IS declining. His defense is a huge liability now.
His power is all but gone, he stole 11 bases last year, his OBP has been declining and his clutch hitting has completely disappeared.
Yes, he is still one of the better shortstops, but that is saying more about the poor quality of ML short stops than Jeter’s ability at age 35.
You cannot throw out stats, watching him play everyday, it should be apparent he is not what he once was.
but he has never been a club house “leader”.
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Do we know exactly what goes on behind closed door in the club house?
We need Jeter, who else is gonna be asked all the Alex questions anytime something new happens?
I don’t have to wake up until 9:00 AM so..
Jeter has 2535 total hits for his career. He has 465 to go until he reaches 3000. He’ll have to average 155 for the next 3 years to get there.
“It was a big surprise when the news started trickling in that A-Rod was coming back to the Yanks because the team had clearly moved on to try and find a new third baseman”
and I often wonder if Miguel Cabrera would now be at 3rd base.
(if he can even still play 3rd)
The closer Jeter gets to 3000 hits the better for the Yankees. Did you guys see him crank out the hits to top the hits in YS record? Right out of the gate, boom, boom, boom.
M-
remember that the Yanks said they would not negotiate with Al if he opted out because they would lose the $30 million subsidy from the Texas Rangers.
Cash’s remark after Al opted out was fitting, if only because nobody really foresaw the fire storm of opting out during the final game of the world series would kill the market and Al would have to come back, hat in hand, and eat the $30 million loss.
Jeter is through at SS. He can still be a decent hitter, but he MUST change positions.
Jeter made TWO costly errors to lead to insurance runs in this WBC alone. Infact, if Wright had not gotten that huge hit against Puerto Rico, Jeter would have been the Goat of the WBC.
when has jeter ever been a “leader”?
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Oh please. You didn’t really ask that question did you?
He’s not only the face of the Yankees but many consider him the face of baseball.
Those are some pretty good credentials.
Thurman Munson was a pretty good leader and had a very similar role with teammates and the media that Jeter has now.
Jeter must stay on, otherwise A-Rod and his madam will become the new face of the Yankees.
Countdown,
Did you just repeat what I said? If not, I don’t know where you’re coming from.
Maybe it’s urban legend that Cash didn’t want Al to re-sign.
“Henderson’ March 23rd, 2009 at 12:03 am
Yeah that’s right Pete because Jetes was clearly playing that game like he didn’t care right ? Look age catches up that’s the reality and he didn’t look good at SS in the WBC, he has alot to improve on for 2009 but right now what we saw wasn’t good.”
exactly, the spin maching on this blog can be comical, you have to agree that AROD is the anti-christ and Jeter is perfect in every way or you get killed…….anyone that takes off the Pinstriped colored shades has to see the drop off getting steeper every year; love what he’s meant to this franchise but it will be a shame to have a statue at SS in 2011
LOL I think Thurman was a lot more beloved than Jeter – the goat of the WBC? Please……….
GF, I agree with you, but there is a large contingent of Yankee fans (not just here) that basically think Jeter is through. I’m confident he is going to be very good with the bat this year – what about you?
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I think he’ll have a typical Jeter season as long as he stays healthy (.300 -.310 , 10 – 15 HR, 25 steals).
But he’ll be helped immensely be the pitching staff because this team won’t have to score a boatload of runs to win as they’ve been forced to do in recent years because of their lack of starting pitching.
Giuseppe,
Munson and the press did not get along terribly well. He was a grumpy guy and a lot of reporters flat out didn’t like him. Sparky Lyle once corrected someone who characterize Thurm as moody, by saying moody people are nice all of the time, Thurman’s just mean.
I think we’re just worried about getting through ’09 right now. And Jeter hasn’t declined to the point that he can’t be SS for the next season.
Wait and see is the proper approach. If you guys don’t think Jeter can play SS at 35, when will Alex be unable to play the field? Oooh. Loaded question there.
S.A.-
Do we know exactly what goes on behind closed door in the club house?
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Yes we do. Canseco and Torre have written tell-all books.
Betsy – He’s right. Jeter made an enormous error in the top of the 9th to give PR the insurance run. Youkallis got 1 run back in the bottom half, but if Wright didn’t get his hit and they lost by 1, Jeter would have been killed.
That’s what I think, too, GF – I’m not sure what else folks expect from him at this point. That’s still a pretty darn good year…..His teammates will have to pretend they still like want him on their team – you just know they’re privately wishing Jeter would stay away, lol.
“If you guys don’t think Jeter can play SS at 35, when will Alex be unable to play the field? Oooh. Loaded question there.”
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A-ROD could be a DH for the rest of his career b/c he has power….that’s what makes the Jeter decision tough, DH is not an automatic b/c you usually save that for a power hitter
Giuseppe Franco-
The face of baseball? Oh, please. Jeter is the face of commerical marketing. Period. Beside, if Jeter is the face of baseball, then he would have to take responsibility for the steroid era, which he doesn’t deserve, since he WASN”T the face of baseball.
A-Rod is slightly below average at 3rd, Jeter is dreadful at SS.
The left side of the infield is going to be an adventure this year, as Jason Stark wrote.
A-Rod is the face of the steroid error, isin’t he?
Maybe that’s so, Floyd- I admit I didn’t watch it. I guess it just doesn’t bother me so much as I never liked the WBC. I’m simply not overly worried about his defense – I just accept it as what it is until he’s no longer at SS – and I’m absolutely not worried about his offense.
Where exactly would Jeter play if not at SS? His bat would be below average pretty much everywhere except CF
And how do we even know he can play CF? Is this going to be like moving Sheffield to 1st?
Well, Jeter may not be the face of baseball to you, but he’s universally respected. He’s respected by those who played before him. And we all know that they’re the only ones that count. Right, randy l?
S.A.-
Do we know exactly what goes on behind closed door in the club house?
Yes we do. Canseco and Torre have written tell-all books.
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With regard to Jeter being a club house leader? I didn’t realize they revealed word for word conversations Jeter had/didn’t have. Who knew.
Congratulations to Team Japan. They obviously deserved this win.
That said, I will say that both Korea and Japan have been practicing and playing ball together for this tournament a lot longer than the other teams have had the opportunity to do. So maybe it makes sense that there are in a lot better shape in terms of being in good baseball form.
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Sis ~
Not sure about Korea, but I don’t think Ichrio, Johjima and Dice-K have been with their team any longer than some of the other MLB players.
That said, if there were some who were unprepared, doesn’t seem there was a reason to be. It is my understanding that camps opened early specifically for WBC participants to prepare.
Now regarding game conditioning, that is likely where improvements can be made for the next time ’round. More exhibition games during the early rounds would do wonders to keep the players loose and engaged (and maybe help boost interest/attendance).
But, what do I know. I was rooting for a Venezuela/Japan final so we could see Felix vs. Ichiro
regard=regards
“Jeter must stay on, otherwise A-Rod and his madam will become the new face of the Yankees.”
Hilarious LOl and so true.
“Where exactly would Jeter play if not at SS? His bat would be below average pretty much everywhere except CF”
no where.
and the move to CF, would have had to happen 2 years ago
Giuseppe
25 SB for Jeter? Really?
Why not Jeter as a super utility player off the bench who can play all the INF positions?
Can A-Rods madam field a slow roller? She probably can unlike Derek.
The face of baseball? Oh, please. Jeter is the face of commerical marketing. Period. Beside, if Jeter is the face of baseball, then he would have to take responsibility for the steroid era, which he doesn’t deserve, since he WASN”T the face of baseball.
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Team USA made it a point to name Jeter the Captain of the team. He is indeed front and center of everything the WBC has done.
Obviously, MLB thinks you are insane because they market him as the face of baseball and what’s good about the game.
Why does Jeter have to take responsibility for the steroid stuff when he didn’t do any of that stuff?
Bud Selig doesn’t even take responsibility for his part in the whole steroid era and his actions helped directly fuel that mess.
He didn’t start caring until Congress started turning the heat up on him.
Jeter needs to take responsibility for the steroid era? That’s lunacy.
‘idiot call-in night’ tonight on WFAN.
wow.
“Jeter must stay on, otherwise A-Rod and his madam will become the new face of the Yankees.”
Hilarious LOl and so true.
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I hope not.
She looks like Bary Manilow
Nope, Jeter’s just spinning his wheels right now. He’s going to marry Jennifer Steinbrenner and become an owner of a baseball team.
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/03......html?_r=1
This Jeter talk is depressing… Can’t we go back to talking about A-Rod’s hooker?
Giuseppe Franco-
I am sorry. I had no idea you had a crush.
“Why not Jeter as a super utility player off the bench who can play all the INF positions”
yes. He’ll go for that
vinny – whats it about now?
25 SB for Jeter? Really?
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Well, maybe 25 is a little optimistic. But I don’t think 20 steals is unrealistic.
He’s got Teixeira hitting in front of him and hopefully doesn’t have any problems with his legs that he did last season with the quad strain.
Can A-Rods madam field a slow roller? She probably can unlike Derek.
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Don’t know. But her game has alotta holes.
I am sorry. I had no idea you had a crush.
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You obviously have no sense of reality. But thanks for playing anyways.
I don’t have a problem with criticizing Jeter when it’s merited. But you’re going way over the top with the nonsense you’re spewing.
“This Jeter talk is depressing… Can’t we go back to talking about A-Rod’s hooker?”
lol, co-sign
Whoever hits in front of Jeter and Nady needs to be able to swipe a bag.
‘This Jeter talk is depressing… Can’t we go back to talking about A-Rod’s hooker?’
I don’t want to talk about it either but it’s the pink elephant in the room, his range is declining big time.
every other caller, is asking the host if he wants to look at various anatomical parts.
and the last caller was a Yankee “fan” forecasting doom for both CC Sabathia and Wang. When Adam mentioned CC’s success last year, the caller rebuffed him saying the NL is a Triple A league.
poor Adam
“vinny – whats it about now?”
every other caller, is asking the host if he wants to look at various anatomical parts.
and the last caller was a Yankee “fan” forecasting doom for both CC Sabathia and Wang. When Adam mentioned CC’s success last year, the caller rebuffed him saying the NL is a Triple A league.
poor Adam
Weekends past midnight on WFAN are when most of the creeps come out.
The calls that Tony Paige gets are from people from another planet.
I highly doubt Jeter wants to extend his career by playing CF or as a utility player.
The Yankees and Jeter will mutually agree to sign him until he gets his 3,000th hit then let him walk.
Then we will trade some of our excess pitching for Hanley Ramirez. I’m sure by then Brackman, Betances, Heredia, Vizcaino, Banulous, McAllister etc. might have developed plus we’ll have Chapman and a few others. We’ll have plenty of trade chips.
tampayank
March 23rd, 2009 at 12:26 am
“If you guys don’t think Jeter can play SS at 35, when will Alex be unable to play the field? Oooh. Loaded question there.”
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A-ROD could be a DH for the rest of his career b/c he has power….that’s what makes the Jeter decision tough, DH is not an automatic b/c ***you usually save that for a power hitter***
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A power hitting DH like Paul Molitor or power hitting first basemen like Rod Carew?
“Then we will trade some of our excess pitching for Hanley Ramirez. I’m sure by then Brackman, Betances, Heredia, Vizcaino, Banulous, McAllister etc. might have developed plus we’ll have Chapman and a few others. We’ll have plenty of trade chips”
Dave: love the way you think.
and Chapman. lol.
“This Jeter talk is depressing… Can’t we go back to talking about A-Rod’s hooker?”
“lol, co-sign”
Yes, that was a lot of fun reading.
“A power hitting DH like Paul Molitor or power hitting first basemen like Rod Carew?”
Molitor was a hella better hitter in his later years in Milwuakee & Tornoto, then Jeter at this point
vinny-b (Girardi, Pettitte, Mo, Matsui, Gardner = my top 5)
March 23rd, 2009 at 12:57 am
“A power hitting DH like Paul Molitor or power hitting first basemen like Rod Carew?”
Molitor was a hella better hitter in his later years in Milwuakee & Tornoto, then Jeter at this point
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Actually, they’re the same hitter.
Playing in homer friendly domes with carpet certainly inflated his numbers from age 35 on.
“Actually, they’re the same hitter.
Playing in homer friendly domes with carpet certainly inflated his numbers from age 35 on”
whatever, GB
I just found out I’m gonna be out of town for Opening Day, but I’m not mad cuz I’ll be in sunny Florida for a family get together
Al, where in Florida?
Well, wherever you are down there, don’t worry; you may be out of town, but you won’t be far from home:
http://tinyurl.com/3ux4gg
NickSF.
Hope you are well.
Did you make a little $ this weekend on the tourney? It is a shame Cal and BC came for a cup of coffee and got back on the plane. I had a great few days of action as I have over-itis and there have been a ton of high scoring games. I am sure I will give it back next week as everyone will decide the Princeton style offense will be in vogue starting Thursday eve.
-dennis
Nick- All over the place I have to see folks in Tampa, Orlando and South Beach. I’ll be a busy guy, I’m gonna try to get in front of a TV at some point to see the game however.
Hi dennis, hope you’re well too. I’ve done pretty well since the tourney started, definitely better than I’m doing in my pool. I’ve mostly been doing teasers and trying to set up middles, most of them have hit. It definitely gets tougher from here on out.
Definitely too bad about Cal, they didn’t even look good losing. The whole Pac-10 has been a bit of a letdown. Funy that Arizona, the bubble team that nobody thought should even be in the field, was the only one to get out of the weekend.
My brackets are a mess. I am just glad the scoring has been plentiful. Congrats on your plays. The Big East has lived up to the hype I guess. The rest of the way starting Thurs eve should be exciting.
Have you been to O’Reily’s in SF? I mentioned it the other day in a post re: St Pats Day. Great, Irish pub in SF. Amy and I make it a must stop every time we are in your great city..There is always a soccer game on and a big Irish Setter loping around. Great karma spot.
-dennis
Never been to O’Reilly’s, I don’t think, although there have been a few nights when I’ve been to several bars on Green Street, so it’s possible I’ve stopped in. But if so, not for several years. For soccer games I’m more likely to stay closer to my neighborhood (or my old neighborhood, I guess) and go to the Mad Dog in the Fog on Haight or the Kezar on Stanyan. But anyway, I’ll keep it in mind the next time I’m out in that part of the city.
My brackets are a mess too, but all of my final 8 are still alive, so I can recover. But probably won’t.
but what is arod doing?