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Guess who’s back? Back again

Posted by: Peter Abraham - Posted in Misc on Mar 23, 2009 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

The captain of the Yankees, Derek Jeter, will return tomorrow and play shortstop against those no-good Boston Red Sox. The Yankees would have been OK with him not playing until Thursday.

In other news …

· Brian Bruney, he of the 7.56 ERA in spring training, joked about whether he would make the team. Joe Girardi said that wasn’t in doubt. But Girardi was dead serious when he said Bruney needed to get himself going.

Bruney has allowed three homers in 8.1 innings.

· Nick Swisher was not thrilled to learn he would be on the bench. He and Girardi met this morning back in Tampa. But Swisher kept his composure when talking about it, saying he thought carefully about what he wanted to say.

“You might say something that will come out the wrong way. I’m not going to do that,” he said. “This is a great team and we have an opportunity to do some wonderful things this year. I want to be a part of that; I want to win. Coming over here, that was the biggest thing, I want to win. But I also want to be a part. I’ve played every day pretty much my whole career. I think there’s going to be a lot of at-bats out there for me. I’ve got to be ready when I’m told I’m ready to play.

“I don’t know how to put it. I don’t know how I’m feeling or whatever. I just know I want to be in there everyday. That’s it, that’s what I can say.”

· Dan Giese and Brett Tomko will pitch against the Braves on Saturday in Orlando. CMW will pitch in a minor-league game.

· A-Rod will apparently not get back to Tampa while the team is still here. His rehab will continue in Colorado. Insert joke on hookers here.

· Here’s how you know the season is dawning: clubhouse manager Rob Cucuzza was walking around today with a chart of the clubhouse at the new Stadium letting guys pick their lockers. Most of the big-name guys have already made their choice.

· Jorge Posada on his travels today: “It was like Little League, looking for a dry field to play.” Said Wang: “Like kids, we went everywhere.”

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114 Responses to “Guess who’s back? Back again”

  1. 24 Score March 23rd, 2009 at 5:07 pm

    Man, I feel bad for Swisher. I knew he wouldn’t take it well– players HATE when playing time gets taken away from them. No surprise that he is somber.

    I just hope he can keep his upbeat personality and doesn’t walk around dejected.

  2. Baseball Fab March 23rd, 2009 at 5:09 pm

    OH NO an Arod comment lynch Pete!
    :)

  3. trisha - As long as you're in pinstripes, Kei, I've got your back. March 23rd, 2009 at 5:10 pm

    I feel bad for Swisher also and respect that he spoke his mind.

  4. Chris March 23rd, 2009 at 5:10 pm

    Hey Pete: when you have a second — how about another crack at “who is left in camp” and “projected roster”?

  5. Roger(from amsterdam) March 23rd, 2009 at 5:10 pm

    so who’s the winner in spring traing:

    RF nady or swisher?
    CF cabrera or gardner?
    LR acevesor giese or tomko?

    I would take swisher,gardner and aceves

  6. Uncle "extra arm" Ellsworth March 23rd, 2009 at 5:10 pm

    Pete don’t you know it’s hard to be a saint in the city?

  7. Nick March 23rd, 2009 at 5:11 pm

    Did A-Rod bring his madam to Colorado or did he find a new one out there in the Mountains?

  8. Betsy March 23rd, 2009 at 5:11 pm

    Wow – Swish is upset. I feel for him, but he’s going to have to suck it up and be professional about it. That said, I suspect he’ll be a bit quieter. He’s basically been told that he’s not good enough to start and that he’s just a bench player – and that’s a bitter pill to swallow for anyone.

    I’m not sure I understand why the Yankees would want to hold Jeter out until Thursday – he needs to get back into the groove with his own teammates.

    I’m glad Joe gave it straight to Bruney – he really does need to pull it together. He’s not been given anything on this team, no one has – not in the pen anyway (except for Mo).

  9. Victor the Predictor March 23rd, 2009 at 5:12 pm

    Nick Swisher will be very much a part of the equation this year. The team has flexibility it hasn’t seen in recent years.

  10. S.A.-The 2009 MLB season is almost here March 23rd, 2009 at 5:13 pm

    Said Wang: “Like kids, we went everywhere.”

    =========================

    LOL
    “Are we there yet? Are we there yet?”

  11. O'Brandon ( I Love Me Some Me), 'Watching AL be the 2nd coming of Rickey Henderson' March 23rd, 2009 at 5:15 pm

    How does Arod makes most hated athlete by NYers at #2 over Micheal Jordan ? ARE YOU …….G KIDDING ME ! DailyNewsLive SUCKS ! :x

  12. 4 x 4 March 23rd, 2009 at 5:15 pm

    Francessa discussing which positions Jeter can be moved to

    So far he has said that CF is the best option, with a possibility of left field

  13. teddy March 23rd, 2009 at 5:16 pm

    ahhhhhhhhh nick deserve to start

  14. CanIGetAMooseCall March 23rd, 2009 at 5:16 pm

    ARod was with the team last Thursday in Tampa. He was spotted in the dugout before the game agaist the Jays.

  15. Carl March 23rd, 2009 at 5:16 pm

    Because A-Rod is hated by other fans, and 80% of his own fanbase.

  16. O'Brandon ( I Love Me Some Me), 'Watching AL be the 2nd coming of Rickey Henderson' March 23rd, 2009 at 5:18 pm

    Top 5 Most Hated Athletes by NYers by Brandon

    #1 Michael Jordan
    #2 Reggie Miller
    #3 Manny Ramirez
    #4 Herm Edwards
    #5 Chipper Jones

    That’s my list, anyone want to give it a shot since Daily News Live sucks at this too.

  17. Galvin March 23rd, 2009 at 5:18 pm

    Ozzie Guillen said that if the Chi Sox didn’t trade Swisher, he would be a 4th outfielder on their team this year.

    Swisher needs to get over himself. He hit .219 last year, he has to work his way back.

  18. A-List March 23rd, 2009 at 5:19 pm

    How is John Rocker not on the list? He may be the most hated person, period in NY not just athlete.

    He dissed our city, he went below the belt.

  19. JT March 23rd, 2009 at 5:20 pm

    Disappointing about Swisher. Would love to see his grinding at-bats in the lineup every day. I’m sure he’ll get a lot of opportunities though. Guys get hurt and need rests. And a switch hitter off the bench is a great card to have up your sleeve.

  20. O'Brandon ( I Love Me Some Me), 'Watching AL be the 2nd coming of Rickey Henderson' March 23rd, 2009 at 5:20 pm

    ‘So far he has said that CF is the best option, with a possibility of left field’

    If he can’t go up the middle at SS how is he suppose to go up the middle on gappers ? Siezes to amaze me, CF is Austin Jackson’s spot or that Cespedes kid from team Cuba, rumor is 2 cuban players are missing and Fidel isn’t happy.

  21. Uncle Ellsworth March 23rd, 2009 at 5:21 pm

    Schilling
    George Brett
    Papelbon

    just throwing names out

  22. trisha - As long as you're in pinstripes, Kei, I've got your back. March 23rd, 2009 at 5:21 pm

    “Nick Swisher will be very much a part of the equation this year. The team has flexibility it hasn’t seen in recent years.”

    Agree

  23. JT March 23rd, 2009 at 5:22 pm

    Schilling
    Papelbon
    Youkilis
    Reggie Miller
    Carl Pavano

  24. O'Brandon ( I Love Me Some Me), 'Watching AL be the 2nd coming of Rickey Henderson' March 23rd, 2009 at 5:23 pm

    ‘How is John Rocker not on the list? He may be the most hated person, period in NY not just athlete.

    He dissed our city, he went below the belt.’

    For what like 2 yrs. , please you got to cause pain to be on that list, we’re talking Kenny Rogers walking in a winning run like pain, we’re talking Reggie hitting 2 threes in 8 secs type of pain, Arthur Rhodes if he were a Yankee type pain.

  25. Danny March 23rd, 2009 at 5:23 pm

    I feel so bad for Swisher

    Players who don’t start just don’t feel apart of the team. Especially a guy like Swish who has started everyday since he came to the majors.

    That’s like telling Cano he is going to be a bench player coming off 1 bad year.

    I don’t blame him for being disgruntled. If he stops playing music in the clubhouse and stops being a high energy guy… it wouldn’t surprise me. Swisher wants to be a baseball player, not just a novelty act in the clubhouse.

  26. trisha - As long as you're in pinstripes, Kei, I've got your back. March 23rd, 2009 at 5:23 pm

    “Papelbon”

    Good Lord yes!

    But the Daily News will sell more papers by staying on Arod than staying on Papelsmear. The name of the game. Keep selling those papers!

  27. O'Brandon ( I Love Me Some Me), 'Watching AL be the 2nd coming of Rickey Henderson' March 23rd, 2009 at 5:25 pm

    ‘Schilling
    George Brett
    Papelbon

    just throwing names out’

    Schilling keeps getting put here because he pitched a squeaky clean game, bad coaching was more the result of that loss than Schilling. George Brett yes, Papelbum isn’t a factor here.

  28. Uncle Ellsworth March 23rd, 2009 at 5:25 pm

    Herm Edwards on the list for the Pisarchek (sp) play?
    That’s weak.

    Randall Cunningham
    Troy Aikman
    M. Irvin
    Carlton Fisk!!!!!!! hated him.

  29. Bronx Jeers March 23rd, 2009 at 5:26 pm

    “Francessa discussing which positions Jeter can be moved to

    So far he has said that CF is the best option, with a possibility of left field”

    Sometimes I feel I’m missing something and I wish for someone could explain this…but
    I don’t see how a guy who no longer has the agility to play SS can be an effective outfielder.

    Essentially Jeter has no “jump” in his move going left. Was always behind the curve in the first place. Is this not a necessary skill for an OF?

  30. jack March 23rd, 2009 at 5:27 pm

    “But Girardi was dead serious when he said Bruney needed to get himself going.”

    Hope the people who excused Bruney’s performance read that. His manager doesn’t consider ST results meaningless.

  31. Uncle Ellsworth March 23rd, 2009 at 5:27 pm

    Schilling hate is not about one game it’s about his mouth.

    and the blood was fake.

  32. O'Brandon ( I Love Me Some Me), 'Watching AL be the 2nd coming of Rickey Henderson' March 23rd, 2009 at 5:27 pm

    Marino could make that list, how about ‘Primetime’ Deion Sanders

  33. gayle March 23rd, 2009 at 5:28 pm

    Now here is the question did they have a driver or did they drive themselves and have GPS so they would know where the heck they were going

  34. Y26 March 23rd, 2009 at 5:28 pm

    How is Marbury not on any of these lists?

    Or Isiah Thomas?

  35. JT March 23rd, 2009 at 5:28 pm

    oh wait, Tom Brady. Excuse me, terrible omission.

  36. Uncle Ellsworth March 23rd, 2009 at 5:29 pm

    Pedro must be on someones list

  37. Al from BK March 23rd, 2009 at 5:29 pm

    “How is John Rocker not on the list? He may be the most hated person, period in NY not just athlete.

    He dissed our city, he went below the belt.”

    Rocker isn’t even important enough to mention. He is a loser who spent the rest of his days getting kicked off independant teams.

  38. Uncle Ellsworth March 23rd, 2009 at 5:30 pm

    OJ Simpson

  39. O'Brandon ( I Love Me Some Me), 'Watching AL be the 2nd coming of Rickey Henderson' March 23rd, 2009 at 5:31 pm

    ‘How is Marbury not on any of these lists?

    Or Isiah Thomas?’

    Yes I hate Marbury but I hate Dolan more than any of those two, although Zeke would be honerable mention. We always beat Pedro what is there to hate about him ?

  40. trisha - As long as you're in pinstripes, Kei, I've got your back. March 23rd, 2009 at 5:32 pm

    I thought of Pedro but figured that now he was with the Mets NYers would be more fogiving of “one of its own.”

    Jason Varitek. I know I can’t stand him!

  41. O'Brandon ( I Love Me Some Me), 'Watching AL be the 2nd coming of Rickey Henderson' March 23rd, 2009 at 5:33 pm

    ‘Jason Varitek. I know I can’t stand him!’

    Hoe the leprachaun at 2nd

  42. O'Brandon ( I Love Me Some Me), 'Watching AL be the 2nd coming of Rickey Henderson' March 23rd, 2009 at 5:34 pm

    How about the leprechaun at 2nd * sorry keyboard froze.

  43. trisha - As long as you're in pinstripes, Kei, I've got your back. March 23rd, 2009 at 5:35 pm

    “Hoe the leprachaun at 2nd”

    :lol:

  44. Ed - 2009 season can't start soon enough March 23rd, 2009 at 5:35 pm

    brandon, heard about Keppinger being on the block? hmm..

  45. PAT M. March 23rd, 2009 at 5:36 pm

    Speaking of Papelbon, There’s a good interview with him in this month’s Esquire Magazine…..It actually humanizes him somewhat…..He idolizes Mariano Rivera, as he has a autographed picture of Mo adorning his wall…

  46. O'Brandon ( I Love Me Some Me), 'Watching AL be the 2nd coming of Rickey Henderson' March 23rd, 2009 at 5:37 pm

    ‘brandon, heard about Keppinger being on the block? hmm..’

    He’d be an interesting fill in UTY player, we are looking for a 3B, but Ransom has that so….ya know.

  47. Justin C. March 23rd, 2009 at 5:37 pm

    “If he can’t go up the middle at SS how is he suppose to go up the middle on gappers ? Siezes to amaze me, CF is Austin Jackson’s spot or that Cespedes kid from team Cuba, rumor is 2 cuban players are missing and Fidel isn’t happy.”

    umm i didnt hear that …. sources?

  48. O'Brandon ( I Love Me Some Me), 'Watching AL be the 2nd coming of Rickey Henderson' March 23rd, 2009 at 5:38 pm

    Well I’ll be back later guys.

  49. Ed - 2009 season can't start soon enough March 23rd, 2009 at 5:38 pm

    “He’d be an interesting fill in UTY player, we are looking for a 3B, but Ransom has that so….ya know.”

    Yeah, but at least he would be better than Berrora. :D

  50. O'Brandon ( I Love Me Some Me), 'Watching AL be the 2nd coming of Rickey Henderson' March 23rd, 2009 at 5:39 pm

    Justin C. it was leaked on spanish radio, if I hear more I’ll let you know, but 2 cubans supposively didn’t go w/ thier team back to Cuba and stayed in the states. Fidel isn’t happy.

    Ok now I’m gone. Here’s hoping it’s Cespedes or Chapman or both. :)

  51. you gotta have faith (bronx zoo 2009) March 23rd, 2009 at 5:43 pm

    swish :(
    hopefully he doesnt do anything drastic like demand a trade, there are enough at bats for everyone, he needs to realize that. i dont see why a platoon wont work, other teams do it all the time.

  52. Doreen March 23rd, 2009 at 5:44 pm

    Swisher will be fine. Of course his initial reaction is disappointment. But what is decided for the start of the season does not necessarily mean it’s going remain static for the entirety of the season.

    Girardi will make sure Swisher/Nady and Cabrera/Gardner get ample opportunities to contribute to the season.

    It’s up to each player to take the attitude that whatever his role, he will make the best of it and make himself an integral part of the season, no matter the size of the role.

  53. Countdown March 23rd, 2009 at 5:44 pm

    God, I hope ARod stays away until MAy. Who needs the endless circus distraction.

  54. Doreen March 23rd, 2009 at 5:46 pm

    One other thought – how many of us, upon hearing not-so-great news have an initial negative reaction, only to sleep on it, think on it, and get a better feel for things and a better attitude in a day or a week?

  55. SpellingPo-leece. March 23rd, 2009 at 5:47 pm

    Siezes to amaze me?

    supposively???
    ————————————————————
    Holy crap that pathetic.

  56. Tom March 23rd, 2009 at 5:47 pm

    HAVANA – Cuban leader Fidel Castro said that two people had deserted from the delegation that traveled to San Diego, California, to take part in the World Baseball Classic, one more than had been previously announced.

    “Of the 73 who flew to Mexico and San Diego, two poor devils didn’t come back,” the 82-year-old president said in a new article in his “Reflections” series, published on Friday.

    “One edited baseball video footage for Cuban National Television. His whining published by the news services makes one ashamed. He moaned that the only sad thing was that his dear mother and his adored girlfriend didn’t travel with him. He was gone the first day the delegation arrived in San Diego,” Castro said about the first desertion, which El Nuevo Herald in Miami reported last Tuesday.

    “The other,” he continued, “wrote for (the official daily) Juventud Rebelde on the same subject. He had gone out of the country on several occasions, but waited for the Classic to carry out his big crime. He was always with the team. He was stupid. Two hours before they were to leave for the airport for the return flight, he disappeared.”

    http://www.laht.com/article.as.....ryId=14510

  57. Laura - Just because I'm losing doesn't mean I'm lost! March 23rd, 2009 at 5:48 pm

    “God, I hope ARod stays away until MAy. Who needs the endless circus distraction.”

    Considering that A-Rod is one of the few regulars who typically have a hot April, I’m not exactly sure why you’d be wishing that. Alex has proven that he can play through distractions.

  58. tom March 23rd, 2009 at 5:48 pm

    Why was Swisher so somber and trying to script what he wanted to say?

    He could have just said “I’m cool with it, whatever role they want for me is fine with me. I’m just happy to be apart of this team. As a competitor you want to start everyday, but winning is more important, and I’ll do whatever it takes to win.”

  59. Laura - Just because I'm losing doesn't mean I'm lost! March 23rd, 2009 at 5:49 pm

    “He {Papelsmear} idolizes Mariano Rivera, as he has a autographed picture of Mo adorning his wall…”

    That’s nice to hear, but he’s still a world class loser.

  60. Galvin March 23rd, 2009 at 5:50 pm

    “God, I hope ARod stays away until MAy. Who needs the endless circus distraction”

    Agree. I wouldn’t be surprised if we’re cruising without him and his constant headaches and attention ploys. Certainly the mood of the team has been better.

  61. PAT M. March 23rd, 2009 at 5:52 pm

    Laura, Under no circumstances am I endorsing this chump, but it was a quality article…

  62. SpellingPo-leece. March 23rd, 2009 at 5:52 pm

    Nady over Swisher is Girardi’s first mistake of the season.

  63. Doreen March 23rd, 2009 at 5:52 pm

    tom-

    Probably because he’s human and a bit disappointed initially. He’ll be fine and a good camper. You’ll see. :)

  64. Oddessy March 23rd, 2009 at 5:53 pm

    “I don’t know how to put it. I don’t know how I’m feeling or whatever. I just know I want to be in there everyday. That’s it, that’s what I can say.”

    This has all the makings of a trade demand from Swisher.

    The Yankees really botched this thing by not trading Nady. Depth is nice, but not when the depth involves players who want to start. That’s when it becomes an issue.

  65. trisha - As long as you're in pinstripes, Kei, I've got your back. March 23rd, 2009 at 5:54 pm

    “Why was Swisher so somber and trying to script what he wanted to say?

    He could have just said “I’m cool with it, whatever role they want for me is fine with me. I’m just happy to be apart of this team. As a competitor you want to start everyday, but winning is more important, and I’ll do whatever it takes to win.””

    Tom therein lies the difference between being the person in the moment, and being able to stand off to the side and think what would work best for that person in the moment.

    I think he did quite well under the circumstances. I think he was about as circumspective as he could be.

  66. Doreen March 23rd, 2009 at 5:54 pm

    Another way to look at it is Girardi sees perhaps that Swisher is more capable of coming off the bench than Nady.

    It’s far to early to start saying Girardi’s making mistakes. Geesh.

  67. bodhisattva March 23rd, 2009 at 5:55 pm

    Galvin
    March 23rd, 2009 at 5:50 pm
    “God, I hope ARod stays away until MAy. Who needs the endless circus distraction”
    Agree. I wouldn’t be surprised if we’re cruising without him and his constant headaches and attention ploys. Certainly the mood of the team has been better.
    ==========================================

    Galvin, hanging out with the team again?

  68. TIME FOR #27 March 23rd, 2009 at 5:56 pm

    Like it or not… We need a new short stop!!!!

  69. Andrew March 23rd, 2009 at 5:57 pm

    Swisher’s personality is a big part of his game. If he goes into a shell because he isin’t starting and not feeling apart of the team, then it will be a big problem.

    If the chemistry flunks this season from this point forward— Cashman is to blame. He had a chance to trade Nady and he didn’t. Now the superior player is disgruntled on the bench.

    That quote from Swisher doesn’t give me confidence that he will remain upbeat if he isin’t starting.

  70. CanIGetAMooseCall March 23rd, 2009 at 5:57 pm

    Swisher should take a look at his batting average last year and realize he’s lucky to be on the team at all. The guy is coming off a .219 season and he wants to be in the starting lineup. Absurd!

  71. vtred March 23rd, 2009 at 6:00 pm

    “Another way to look at it is Girardi sees perhaps that Swisher is more capable of coming off the bench than Nady.”

    I think that’s a huge part of it. A player like Swisher has a skill-set that is more conducive to producing off the bench than Nady does.

    Nady would be pretty useless as a bench player.

  72. teddy March 23rd, 2009 at 6:01 pm

    umm swisher hit 219 because he wad really bad luck. he drew 82 walks last year, he better than nady

  73. teddy March 23rd, 2009 at 6:02 pm

    “Another way to look at it is Girardi sees perhaps that Swisher is more capable of coming off the bench than Nady.”

    well nady been a career 4th outfielder who kills lefties

  74. Phil March 23rd, 2009 at 6:06 pm

    Nady over Swisher shows a Torre level of idiocy on Girardi’s part. I keep hoping Joe G. will succeed, but so far he’s not impressing.

  75. feefoo March 23rd, 2009 at 6:09 pm

    one of nady/swisher will be traded before allstar break

  76. Mad Mike March 23rd, 2009 at 6:11 pm

    How do you know it isin’t Cashman’s call?

    Maybe he wants to showcase him.

    From everything the ‘insiders’ like Kay, Francessa, Kim Jones etc. have been saying the past couple of weeks… Girardi loves Swisher.

    There is more to this story…

  77. Phil March 23rd, 2009 at 6:14 pm

    It’s not a Cashman call. Cashman is the one who has been trying to improve the defense and playing Nady over Swisher makes the defenese worse.

  78. Drain003 March 23rd, 2009 at 6:16 pm

    Mike,

    Exactly. Just like everyone blamed Girardi for the no-candy rule last year when it turned out to be Cashman’s… I can see some middling by him in this case again.

  79. Michael Kei (Igawa) March 23rd, 2009 at 6:18 pm

    >teddy
    >>umm Swisher hit 219 because he wad really bad luck.

    Oooooh I see , that clears it all up

  80. vinny-b (Girardi, Pettitte, Mo, Matsui, Gardner = my top 5) March 23rd, 2009 at 6:21 pm

    the goat of Team USA is back.

    welcome back, Cap

  81. teddy March 23rd, 2009 at 6:22 pm

    you know he had the most line drives caught right

  82. Nick March 23rd, 2009 at 6:23 pm

    Does it really matter?

    The pennant is not going to be won or lost because Nady plays over Nick Swisher, or if Garder plays over Melky.

    It’s nitpicking at this point. Swisher may be the better player, but its not worth getting ticked off over.

  83. m March 23rd, 2009 at 6:24 pm

    Anyone who knocks this move is simply ignoring the business side of baseball. They gave up good talent to get Nady, and they’re not going to relegate his bat to the bench. There will be plenty of at-bats for Swish because he offers flexibility for the manager. Nady can only be subbed in as a LF or RF. We need to see if Nady can bring his big bat. If not, he loses his job to Swish.

    Good to see Swish be passionate, yet show some class. But I agree with whoever said, “I’ll do whatever helps the team” would’ve sufficed.

  84. Peter Abraham March 23rd, 2009 at 6:24 pm

    It’s a mistake to worry about Swisher/Nady.

    Two things:

    – Cashman didn’t trade Tabata and three RHPs for a guy to ride the bench. They acquired Nady with the intent of playing him in RF this season. He’s going to get every chance. Cashman wants Nady there.

    – Girardi was quite adept at mixing Abreu, Damon, Nady and Matsui last season. Give him a chance to make it work. Damon and Matsui will need days off, especially Matsui.

  85. Mike R March 23rd, 2009 at 6:27 pm

    Lala (and anyone else getting all worked up about the hooker jokes),

    Chill out. Hookers are just a funny thing to joke about.

    Lighten up and have at least some semblance of a sense of humor.

  86. Nick March 23rd, 2009 at 6:28 pm

    Pete is the voice of reason, yet again.

    Cashman IS a big proponent of Nady after all he gave up to get him. I can’t believe people thought he was going to send him to the bench.

  87. Paddy R March 23rd, 2009 at 6:31 pm

    amazing that girardi could somehow conclude xavier nady should start and nick swisher should not. i thought it was impossible. wait, it should be, swisher is better in almost every facet of the game. i would love to know what his reasoning is, especially considering nady came back to earth with us last year. i like nady, i’m glad he’s still here, and think he’d be a fine starter…if we didn’t have someone better.

  88. teddy March 23rd, 2009 at 6:31 pm

    the only real value he gave up was tebata, karsetens not good, dan, plenty of bullpen guys, no biggie. swisher the better player . remember when the yanks were about plate discipline and taking walks. nady isn’t about that

  89. R+ March 23rd, 2009 at 6:36 pm

    If Nady is as bad as people here are making him out to be, then he shouldn’t last long as the starter, no?

    Whats wrong with giving him a chance to see if last year wasn’t a fluke?

    If he sucks, he goes back to the bench.

  90. teddy March 23rd, 2009 at 6:36 pm

    to be fair with arod out, they may feel they need more righthanded power. though more switch hitters th better. nady c 162 avg, his slg percent jump up last alot

    162 Game Avg 537 69 150 30 1 21 78 4 2 34 107 .280 .335 .458 108 246

    swisher 162 avg

    611 2114 353 515 117 5 104 324 7 8 342 539 .244 .354 .451 112

  91. Betsy March 23rd, 2009 at 6:37 pm

    So Cash is interfering with his manager in making out the lineup – that’s smart. Sheesh….Every expert thinks Swish is the better player (someone linked to a Neyer article in the previous thread), esp. defensively, except Cashman? So Cashman wants the worse player on the field because he needs to justify the trade? How exactly does that help the team? I love Cashman, but this annoys me to no end.

    Remember Swish’s initial reaction when he heard about the Tex signing was disappointment – for a moment, then he was fine. It’s natural for him to be upset – I would not want a player on my team who wasn’t disappointed to be benched. Again, though, if he starts moping around and acting like a 5 year old – then we know that that he’s all about himself. Let’s give him a chance to take this all in, though – I’m sure he’ll be fine.

  92. teddy March 23rd, 2009 at 6:43 pm

    nady career against righty’s 270, 317 obp

    swisher 240, 338 obp

    neither is that great against rhp

  93. i'm bored March 23rd, 2009 at 6:43 pm

    Woah. Wait a minute… Correct me if I’m wrong but on your last post Pete, Girardi said Nady would start IF the season started tomorrow. To my understanding, the season doesn’t start until April 6.

    I think Swisher is far too valuable to the club to not be given enough at-bats during the season. I know what Nady did last year and what Cashman had to trade for him and Marte to get here. And he didn’t really do jack schiit when he got here, so we can throw that out of the door.

    Also, Kim Jones said on Swisher’s interview on WFAN this am that Yankees will find a way for Swisher to play. He really shouldn’t worry about anything.

  94. Peter Abraham March 23rd, 2009 at 6:43 pm

    I love how people are jumping to ridiculous conclusions on March 23.

    Girardi said back on Feb. 12 that Nady was his guy. There is no disagreement with he and Cashman.

    The difference between the two players is not wide enough for one to be a no-brainer. So Nady gets the nod because they invested more in him given the talent they gave up.

    Swisher is easier to use off the bench. He switch hits, he can play a bunch of positions and he’s a good corner OF defender.

    How about you judge this when there is something to judge? I bet on Sept. 23, Swisher has the sixth or seventh most at-bats on the team. They didn’t retire Nady’s number and build him a monument, they said he would play right field to start the season. Calm down.

  95. PC Dan March 23rd, 2009 at 6:44 pm

    I see no problem with a GM trying to justify the trade.

    It’s not like he is forcing a bad player 9like Igawa) on us. The difference between Nady and Swisher is minimal. Not going to make or break our season.

    I was listening to Kim Jones this morning with Boomer, and she was raving about how much Girardi and the coaching staff loves Swisher when she went down there to film the YES preview show.

    But ultimately, it is the GM’s call. He assembles the team

  96. you gotta have faith (bronx zoo 2009) March 23rd, 2009 at 6:45 pm

    “Girardi was quite adept at mixing Abreu, Damon, Nady and Matsui last season. Give him a chance to make it work. Damon and Matsui will need days off, especially Matsui.”

    exactly.
    now instead of abreu, its swisher. same amount of people and from what i remember each got a good amount of playing time. if posada catches it will make things easier, where one guy can have a day off while everyone else plays.

  97. Phil March 23rd, 2009 at 6:45 pm

    Cash also traded for Swisher. He wasn’t afraid to upgrade first when he found he could, and he shouldn’t hesitate from upgrading right now that he has a better player than Nady available for the position.

    It’s really stupid to spend all that money on pitching then put a below average defensive OF out there while you keep a very good defensive RF, who exemplifies the Yankee modle of grinding out at bats on the bench.

  98. JoeyA March 23rd, 2009 at 6:46 pm

    I really don’t understand how people could think they are showcasing Nady. He is a Boras client, in his final year of the contract. What team in their right mind would trade anything for such a player aside from a box of balls. Not to mention, the RF/LF market this offseason fell faster than a Wanger sinker.

    If Nady has already been annointed starting RFer, this is a huge mistake. I’m not saying Swish is leaps and bounds beyond Nady, but you can’t take away hope from a player like Swisher. He is too high energy to have a bench player mentality. The more time Swish gets, the better he will be IMO.

    Nady just doesn’t offer enough versatility. The org. should have done a better job of shopping one of the two earlier in the offseason for a utility infielder. Neither of these guys is going to benefit from reduced/platoon roles. They both need a large number of AB’s.

  99. teddy March 23rd, 2009 at 6:47 pm

    well i pefer that guy, you know who knows what a walk is. in fairness to nady he very well in august and had a bad september when the yanks were toast.

    pete likely right, but i pefer nick to start.

  100. Trevor March 23rd, 2009 at 6:47 pm

    Nady is more of a bench player. And has been in the past. Swisher should be playing RF everyday. His switch hitting is a plus and his patience at the plate will help the lineup.
    Nady is too much of a free swinger for my liking.

  101. teddy March 23rd, 2009 at 6:49 pm

    nady can play rf, lf and 1st base and kills lefties, he has value.

    you can’t trade nady for a utility player, he better than that

  102. timo March 23rd, 2009 at 6:54 pm

    This is a team in desparate need of power production. Sort the 2009 spring training stats by slugging percentage and keep on looking down the list until you can find Swisher. It will take a while.

    And don’t tell me about 2006. Put up now or put a sock in it.

  103. Christina March 23rd, 2009 at 6:56 pm

    You guys really thought Swisher was coming out of camp as the starting RF? Nothing against Swish, he seems like a fun guy I’ve been nothing but impressed with his approach and work ethic, but his forte is definitely not in RF, let alone full time. Hes going to make a great bench player; its something the Yankees have been lacking and as a switch hitter he will be a tool for the team.

  104. Phil March 23rd, 2009 at 6:58 pm

    Yeah, some of us have had the crazy idea that the best rightfielder on the team would start in right. Nutty notion, that.

  105. Felix March 23rd, 2009 at 6:58 pm

    WHere’s Pete

    He comes out to the comment section to put another nail in the spring coffin of A-fool… Then disappears….. He has complained numerous times about A-Rod coverage but tweaks some lame comment (no offense intended to the post person) about an upcoming interview or past. Why?… Why does he feel the need… It seems a little bit weird or queer to me… just saying,
    A-Rod is basically who he is and has lots of worts

  106. Patrick March 23rd, 2009 at 6:59 pm

    “Nick Swisher was not thrilled to learn he would be on the bench. ”

    Really bad move by Girardi, Swisher is far superior to Nady. It really isn’t even that close. Better fielder, more plate discipline, more power equals better player.

  107. pat March 23rd, 2009 at 7:11 pm

    Jeter not wanting to miss the Red Sox game because he misses his new BFFs Pedroia and Youk was an easier joke to come up with than one about Alex’s rehab but I’ll work on it.

  108. tampayank March 23rd, 2009 at 7:49 pm

    Jeter probably read this board the last few days and he wants to get back on the field ASAP. He’ll then hit a HR at his first at bat and all will be good in Yankeeland…ha :)

    Does anyone know if there are several scalpers unloading tickets outside of the Big Stein during most of their Spring Training games? I might give it a shot tomorrow even though I currently don’t have tickets

  109. Dr. J March 24th, 2009 at 12:53 am

    Darvish in to try and get the save for Japan

  110. Hokiehill March 24th, 2009 at 8:28 am

    I’m still not worried about the outfield saga that is Nady, Swisher, Gardner and Cabrera…like i’ve said before, spring training will basically decide who gets the chance to prove themselves first in the regular season…if the guy Girardi decides to put out in the field is not getting it done, then the other guy will be there to step in. If we get to August/September and Nady has been terrible but is still in the lineup for some reason, then everyone can get mad. But if we get to August/Sept. and Nady has been playing great in RF and hitting like he’s supposed to, then no one will even know who Swisher is anymore. These are obviously opposite ends of the spectrum but just making a point. I fully expect all 4 of the CF and LF’s contribute a lot to this season.

  111. NJ Steve March 24th, 2009 at 10:05 am

    Swisher hits both sides pretty equally. He should play 50% of the time against righties in RF as Nady is a better hitter against lefties and 67% of the time against lefties in LF for Damon as JD hits righties better. Swisher could also pick up 3 games a month at DH to rest Matsui against a lefty because Matsui also hits righties better. People always mistakenly say that Matsui hits both sides equally, but this is simply untrue.

    Therefore, if Swisher gets the above he would get over 400 AB’s and everyone will stay fresh and play at times they should be very productive. Of course if there is an injury that opens up more opportunity.

    BTW, in this scenario Damon would have a just a few more AB’s than Nady who would have just a few more AB’s than Swisher.

  112. Bellylard March 24th, 2009 at 11:14 am

    A-Rod’s still in Colorado because he wants to be a member of the mile high club without having to get on a plane.

  113. Bellylard March 24th, 2009 at 11:16 am

    I’m thinking that a guy who’s coming off a year like Swisher had defintely needs to keep a low profile. Sure, he’s a better player than Nady, but his name just will never inspire confidence.

  114. MichiganYankee March 24th, 2009 at 2:10 pm

    Did A-Rod get a Colorado hotel reference from Coby Bryant?

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