Comments on: Jeter leading off? It makes sense http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2009/03/26/jeter-leading-off-it-makes-sense/ A New York Yankees blog by Sam Borden, Chad Jennings and the staff of The Journal News Fri, 19 Mar 2010 16:54:14 -0400 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: saucY http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2009/03/26/jeter-leading-off-it-makes-sense/comment-page-5/#comment-705675 saucY Fri, 27 Mar 2009 15:41:34 +0000 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/?p=8803#comment-705675 looks good! looks good!

]]> By: Docbooch http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2009/03/26/jeter-leading-off-it-makes-sense/comment-page-5/#comment-705672 Docbooch Fri, 27 Mar 2009 15:26:56 +0000 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/?p=8803#comment-705672 I like the move and it goes nicely with what the guys at RAB were saying a few weeks ago as far as importance of batting order spots. They called it. What will be even more impressive is when we get ARod back. We'll have R-L-S-R-L-S-L-R-L with Nady in the 8 hole or Swish switch hitting in the 8th spot. It completely takes the lefty-righty match ups out of the picture. Of course it all sounds good on paper, they will still have to PRODUCE. It's the managers job to put the team in the best position to succeed and I think Girardi has got the right ideas here. I like the move and it goes nicely with what the guys at RAB were saying a few weeks ago as far as importance of batting order spots. They called it.

What will be even more impressive is when we get ARod back. We’ll have R-L-S-R-L-S-L-R-L with Nady in the 8 hole or Swish switch hitting in the 8th spot. It completely takes the lefty-righty match ups out of the picture. Of course it all sounds good on paper, they will still have to PRODUCE.

It’s the managers job to put the team in the best position to succeed and I think Girardi has got the right ideas here.

]]> By: hardwired http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2009/03/26/jeter-leading-off-it-makes-sense/comment-page-5/#comment-705645 hardwired Fri, 27 Mar 2009 14:05:46 +0000 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/?p=8803#comment-705645 "We needed Manny"? Name the last time Manny carried a team to the playoffs, or won a World Series. Wait, never mind. “We needed Manny”? Name the last time Manny carried a team to the playoffs, or won a World Series.

Wait, never mind.

]]> By: Tint http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2009/03/26/jeter-leading-off-it-makes-sense/comment-page-5/#comment-705642 Tint Fri, 27 Mar 2009 13:54:42 +0000 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/?p=8803#comment-705642 we'll see how this turns out...i'm on the fence right now we’ll see how this turns out…i’m on the fence right now

]]> By: Doreen http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2009/03/26/jeter-leading-off-it-makes-sense/comment-page-5/#comment-705630 Doreen Fri, 27 Mar 2009 13:24:59 +0000 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/?p=8803#comment-705630 The thing is - what is the difference between Gardner being on base for Jeter and Damon being on base for Jeter? Gardner may be faster than Damon, but there were many times last year that Damon never got a chance to steal because Jeter had already GIDP'd - which would seem to indicate he WASN'T working the count so much. I think this is strictly a R-L-R move by Girardi to protect the bottom of the lineup - as they did talk about on the MLB program last evening. I don't think it has to do with Jeter's GIDP rate as much as it's being written about. The thing is – what is the difference between Gardner being on base for Jeter and Damon being on base for Jeter? Gardner may be faster than Damon, but there were many times last year that Damon never got a chance to steal because Jeter had already GIDP’d – which would seem to indicate he WASN’T working the count so much.

I think this is strictly a R-L-R move by Girardi to protect the bottom of the lineup – as they did talk about on the MLB program last evening. I don’t think it has to do with Jeter’s GIDP rate as much as it’s being written about.

]]> By: ANSKY http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2009/03/26/jeter-leading-off-it-makes-sense/comment-page-5/#comment-705625 ANSKY Fri, 27 Mar 2009 13:15:59 +0000 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/?p=8803#comment-705625 "... he did say 162 at bats that Jeter can’t GIDP" A good point, but in addition to that: Often enough, Gardner could be the guy on base when Jeter comes up. Not every time of course. But when Gardner IS on base, we'll have Jeter working the count (which he still does well) and giving Gardner every opportunity to steal. And if Gardner's on 2nd (or 3rd) instead of 1st, Jeter can sometimes move him over up those times he would otherwise have a GIDP. I think I like the Jeter-Damon flip-flop. It's a subtle change, probably slightly better, but right now that's just speculation. I'm looking forward to seeing how it works out though. “… he did say 162 at bats that Jeter can’t GIDP” A good point, but in addition to that:

Often enough, Gardner could be the guy on base when Jeter comes up. Not every time of course. But when Gardner IS on base, we’ll have Jeter working the count (which he still does well) and giving Gardner every opportunity to steal. And if Gardner’s on 2nd (or 3rd) instead of 1st, Jeter can sometimes move him over up those times he would otherwise have a GIDP.

I think I like the Jeter-Damon flip-flop. It’s a subtle change, probably slightly better, but right now that’s just speculation. I’m looking forward to seeing how it works out though.

]]> By: rl1856 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2009/03/26/jeter-leading-off-it-makes-sense/comment-page-5/#comment-705621 rl1856 Fri, 27 Mar 2009 13:02:23 +0000 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/?p=8803#comment-705621 Jeter as leadoff makes sense- great career OBP and an excellent baserunner. I feel Jeter will have a better 09 than 08, so he will be more productive at the plate. While he is the nominal leadoff hitter, I think this gives the edge to Gardner as the opening day CF. He will bat 9th- but after the first turn through the lineup, he will bat immediately ahead of Jeter. If you want to groom Gardner to be the eventual leadoff hitter, what better way to do it ? Essentially by the 3rd or 4th inning of the game, Gardner is your leadoff hitter and Jeter is back to his usual #2 slot. With Gardner getting on base ahead of him and with Gardner's speed, Jeter will have a surprising number of RBI opportunities. Gardner gets to 1st, possibly steals 2nd, then scores on Jeter's hit. Interesting to contemplate. Jeter as leadoff makes sense- great career OBP and an excellent baserunner. I feel Jeter will have a better 09 than 08, so he will be more productive at the plate. While he is the nominal leadoff hitter, I think this gives the edge to Gardner as the opening day CF. He will bat 9th- but after the first turn through the lineup, he will bat immediately ahead of Jeter. If you want to groom Gardner to be the eventual leadoff hitter, what better way to do it ? Essentially by the 3rd or 4th inning of the game, Gardner is your leadoff hitter and Jeter is back to his usual #2 slot. With Gardner getting on base ahead of him and with Gardner’s speed, Jeter will have a surprising number of RBI opportunities. Gardner gets to 1st, possibly steals 2nd, then scores on Jeter’s hit. Interesting to contemplate.

]]> By: clarko http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2009/03/26/jeter-leading-off-it-makes-sense/comment-page-5/#comment-705620 clarko Fri, 27 Mar 2009 12:57:20 +0000 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/?p=8803#comment-705620 I read that Damon lost a lot of money in the ponzi scheme run by Allen Stanford in Aruba. He may really need the money, so I wouldn't expect him to sacrifice to stay with the yanks if Boras, who invested the money, can get him a better contract. k I read that Damon lost a lot of money in the ponzi scheme run by Allen Stanford in Aruba. He may really need the money, so I wouldn’t expect him to sacrifice to stay with the yanks if Boras, who invested the money, can get him a better contract.
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]]> By: Tom in NJ http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2009/03/26/jeter-leading-off-it-makes-sense/comment-page-5/#comment-705618 Tom in NJ Fri, 27 Mar 2009 12:43:25 +0000 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/?p=8803#comment-705618 “So who do we think the extra player the Yankees will carry for the first 5 games until they need to activate Joba in game 6? Kevin Cash, Ramiro Pena?” Joba's going north with the team, right?. They would have to option him down to AAA to get an extra roster-spot. “So who do we think the extra player the Yankees will carry for the first 5 games until they need to activate Joba in game 6? Kevin Cash, Ramiro Pena?”

Joba’s going north with the team, right?. They would have to option him down to AAA to get an extra roster-spot.

]]> By: Doreen http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2009/03/26/jeter-leading-off-it-makes-sense/comment-page-5/#comment-705617 Doreen Fri, 27 Mar 2009 12:30:24 +0000 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/?p=8803#comment-705617 Adding to the baseball card conversation: (Gee, you guys sure stay up late jawin'!) GB7 - My heart breaks for your loss! Seriously. My brother was a collector in the 60s and even then, he kept his cards in mint and was very protective of them - way before it was prudent to do so. But my mom sounds like she was a bit like yours - she got rid of "clutter." My brother has turned into quite the collector in his adulthood though. I don't think he ever got over losing his cards, either. And I'll bet you'd have NEVER sold your most valued cards, but you know, I bet you had a few that you could have parted with during some lean economic times. Adding to the baseball card conversation:

(Gee, you guys sure stay up late jawin’!)

GB7 -

My heart breaks for your loss! Seriously. My brother was a collector in the 60s and even then, he kept his cards in mint and was very protective of them – way before it was prudent to do so. But my mom sounds like she was a bit like yours – she got rid of “clutter.”

My brother has turned into quite the collector in his adulthood though. I don’t think he ever got over losing his cards, either.

And I’ll bet you’d have NEVER sold your most valued cards, but you know, I bet you had a few that you could have parted with during some lean economic times.

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