Spring Game 32: Pirates at Yankees
Posted by: Peter Abraham - Posted in Misc on Mar 29, 2009 
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YANKEES
Jeter SS
Damon LF
Swisher 1B
Matsui DH
Posada C
Cano 2B
Nady RF
Pena 3B
Gardner CF
Pitching today: A.J. Burnett, who is scheduled for at least 90 pitches. Rivera, Coke, Marte and Veras are on the list to follow.
PIRATES
Morgan LF
Sanchez 2B
McLouth CF
Doumit C
Adam LaRoche 1B
Hinske DH
Moss RF
Andy LaRoche 3B
Bixler SS
Pitching today: Zach Duke. Chris Bootcheck, Sean Burnett, Jason Davis, Craig Hansen and Lincoln Holdzkom are also on the trip.
Notes: There is rain in the forecast, so the 1:15 scheduled start could be in doubt. … The Yankees are not getting on the field until around 11:15 a.m. and will have only a brief workout before the game. … Back with more later on.
UPDATE, 10:14 a.m.: Yep, it’s raining. No word on the game yet.
UPDATE, 11:17 p.m.: They’re taking the tarp off the field. Looks like there will be baseball here at Big Stein Field.
UPDATE, 11:21 p.m.: The Yankees added six minor-league players to the roster today. In case you’re headed to the game, here are their numbers:
75 Francisco Cervelli C
85 Carmen Angelini INF
84 Justin Snyder INF
79 Seth Fortenberry OF
76 Eric Fryer OF
71 Melky Mesa OF
Talked to Jorge Posada about Chien-Ming Wang’s pitching yesterday. He said it was so windy at the complex that Wang was literally blown off the mound a few times. The two home runs he allowed would have been medium-depth fly balls on another day, Posada said.
Derek Jeter laughed at the idea of his bruised pinkie knuckle meriting a back page on one of the tabloids. “I didn’t even know I was hurt,” he said.
Jonathan Albaladejo talked to reporters this morning. He said that in 2007 he asked for (and was given) his release from the Pirates because he was going nowhere on their Double-A team. After sitting around for a few weeks at his home in Puerto Rico, Albaladejo was about to sign with a team in the Mexican League when the Nationals called.
He signed with Washington on May 3 and made his major league debut on Sept. 4. After Albaladejo appeared in 14 games, the Nats traded him to the Yankees for RHP Tyler Clippard on Dec. 5, 2007.
He made the Yankees out of spring training last season and it looks like he will again. Meanwhile the Pirates are desperate for decent relief pitchers. Turns out they had somebody all along.
UPDATE, 11:30 a.m.: This game will be on WCBS back in New York. There are no more games on YES until the Chicago series.
UPDATE, 12:32 p.m.: Jack Wilson was scratched. Brian Bixler will play SS for the Pirates instead.
The sun is out in Tampa and there will be a game.
UPDATE, 1:07 p.m.: They just finished a nice pre-game ceremony to dedicate the 9-11 memorial outside the stadium. The best part was asking the police officers, fire fighters and military personnel in the crowd to stand and be recognized. That was a good touch.
UPDATE, 1:27 p.m.: Burnett caught a break. He allowed a double with one out then walked McLourth on four pitches. But Doumit lined to Cano and the Yankees caught Sanchez off second to end the inning.
UPDATE, 1:35 p.m.: Yankees lead 1-0. Jeter infield single, goes to third on a Damon single and scored on a chop to third by Swisher.
Meanwhile the “Hip Hip Jorge” cheer is played out.
UPDATE, 1:41 p.m.: A.J. Burnett can’t find the strike zone and when he does, it gets hit hard. LaRoche lined to second. Hinske then crushed a 3-1 pitch over the fence in right. Now Moss has lined a 2-1 pitch into center.
1-1.
UPDATE, 1:59 p.m.: Wow, Ramiro Pena just made a terrific play. Nyjer Morgan bunted and Pena raced in from third, bare-handed the ball and made a strong throw across his body to get the runner by a step.
Great play. The Yankees have an interesting decision to make with that utility spot. Angel Berroa is a “name” but Pena has played his way into consideration.
To me, you keep Pena. He’s twice as good on defense and he can pinch run. Isn’t that what you want from a utility infielder? Berroa has a better bat but how often is that player going to hit?
UPDATE, 2:34 p.m.: Burnett, who looks awful, gave up another run in the fourth thanks to a double, two walks and an error. He got a DP to escape further damage.
Meanwhile. Robinson Cano just hit a bomb that struck the rook of the concession stand on the right field concourse.
Nady walked and Ramiro Pena (there’s that name again) reached on a bunt single. Yanks are in business, 1st and 2nd, nobody out. Score is 2-2.
UPDATE, 2:37 p.m.: GGBG bunt single, too. Holy smoke, young guys bunting and the Yankees running. What is going on here? Bases loaded and nobody out for the captain.
UPDATE, 2:40 p.m.: Sac fly. 3-2 Yankees.
UPDATE, 2:42 p.m.: Damon pulls a ball into right and Pena scored. 4-2 Yankees. Gardner on third with one out. Bet Swisher finds a way to get him in.
UPDATE, 2:44 p.m.: Ground rule double to right, a rocket. Yeah, that got him in. Now it’s 5-2 Yankees.
Matsui single scores Damon. 6-2. Look at what those two bunt singles produced.
UPDATE, 2:57 p.m.: The Yankees scored seven in that inning and lead 8-2.
UPDATE, 3:07 p.m.: Burnett is getting rocked again as the Pirates have scored four runs. Ryan Doumit just belted a three-run homer.
A.J. has allowed six runs on nine hits and we’re in the fifth inning. Ugly. One of those “hey, it’s just spring training” days.
As I write that, Adam LaRoche just hit a ball that may have bounced onto Dale Mabry Highway. Yankees lead 8-7 and Burnett is out.
UPDATE, 3:14 p.m.: The final line on Burnett: 4.1 innings, 10 hits, 7 runs, 6 earned runs, 3 walks, 1 strikeout. 83 pitches / 53 strikes.
Marte is in now.
UPDATE, 3:24 p.m.: Marte allowed another run and it’s 8-8.
But The Little G just led off of the bottom of the fifth inning with a single. He’s 2 for 3. Counting the Team USA game, Gardner is 23 of 55 (.418) this spring.
UPDATE, 3:34 p.m.: Now pitching, Mariano Rivera. There have been 14 runs scored in the last two innings. Hopefully he can bring some sense back to this game.
UPDATE, 3:24 p.m.: G.O.A.T.
There was a bloop single by Morgan then Mo struck out the side. 16 pitches / 10 strikes.
His line this spring: 6 2 0 0 0 9.
UPDATE, 4:14 p.m.: We just spoke to Burnett, He said his mechanics were messed up. “I was out of whack all day,” he said. “My arm feels fine.”
The Yankees also got RHP Ivan Nova back. He was taken by the Padres in the Rule 5 draft. Nova was assigned to Double-A Trenton.
UPDATE, 4:27 p.m.: Yankees have runners on first and second with one out in the eighth inning. The score is still 8-8.
Can’t wait for Carolina-Oklahoma.
UPDATE, 4:29 p.m.: Carmen Angelini just blooped one over second base. Run scores and the Yankees lead 9-8. Nice moment for him.
I hope the Yankees don’t take any chances with AJ – I don’t want him hurting himself on a slippery field. I don’t know if they have enough pitchers, though, to cover all 9 innings, which stinks.
http://www.nypost.com/seven/03.....161802.htm
30/140 for Joba? That’s not even 5 innings a game. There’s no way the Yankees can do this – they will wear out the pen every 5th day.
*Bruney doesn’t need to be worrying about throwing harder – that’s ridiculous. Why on earth he has that mentality of trying to K every batter, I don’t know – and his reasoning is pretty stupid. I don’t like at all what I’m hearing from Bruney.
The Yankees are still looking at Ramiro Pena as the utility IF. They have a week to make a decision on him or Angel Berroa. Neither is listed on the 40-man roster.
Yeah, I have no idea what has gotten into Bruney this spring.
It started off as a nice confidence, swagger, and dedication and turned into cockiness, arrogance, and delusion, along with poor results on the field.
I’m very worried about him– at this point, I don’t think Joe has very much confidence in him as the 8th inning guy on opening day. He may use try him in less stressful situations for a few games to see if this is a trend.
yeah they need a 40 man spot for one of them. will be interesting who goes
Pena has been very impressive and has a future. But my money is on Berroa
Yeah, it will be Berroa. They can DFA him as soon as A-Rod returns.
If Pena is added to the 40-man roster, he’s on it to stay.
They would probably rather see him play everyday in Scranton rather than sitting on the bench in the Bronx.
Why DFA him? Who would they need to add to the 40-man roster? It’s not like he’s in position to reject a demotion to the minors.
Will I be able to listen to this game on the radio?
Betsy – I think the way he was quoted Bruney was recognizing that while his velocity could be higher, that’s not the right approach to pitching.
This is how I beleive the 40 man roster will shape up.
They will take albaladejo for bullpen, and he is already on the 40.
They need a spot for the utility infielder. They will DFA Giese to create the spot on 40.
Regarding who makes as the utility infielder, I think it will be Pena. As crazy as it sounds, with all the tickets not sold, Yanks are watching their money and Pena costs less (league minimum). In fact, Albaladejo costs less than Tomko and that was also a reason (not the only reason) for that decision.
We will know in a fews days any way…..
…..Also, I beleive that Pena has to be on 40 next year (not 100% sure). When A-Rod comes back Pena will be sent down and he will continue ot be on the 40. No harm done.
Not that it matters a hoot, but how did the RS win the Grapefruit League Mayor’s Trophy coming in 4th (so far)?
http://www.courant.com/sports/.....?track=rss
Some good games at Citi Field this weekend?
This decision is all about the 40 man, not ST results.
Ansky, you could be right. I’m just getting mixed messages from Bruney…..but watch, he’ll probably get off to a great start, lol.
I think it will be Berroa as the UTL infielder. If he does well, great. If he doesn’t (or if his D just can’t overcome his hitting), the Yanks can always get rid of him.
The fact that Tomko can be sent to the minors does change things a bit, but I still think the Yankees want a long man. On the other hand, they like Alba……..it’s an interesting and tough choice they have to make.
Is this game on the radio?
“Derek Jeter laughed at the idea of his bruised pinkie knuckle meriting a back page on one of the tabloids. “I didn’t even know I was hurt,” he said.”
Welcome to New York, good griefs, no offense Pete but do your counterparts run out of things to talk about and so something like this takes on a life of its own and is splashed on the pages as newsworthy.
Could you imagine if the Yankees rotation had the injury issues the Angels are having with Lackey, Santana and to a lesser extent Escobar, it would be printed as doom and gloom for the Yankees all over the various sports mediums and outlets. Amazing how things in New York take are blown up to a bigger proportion by the media
I don’t worry about Bruney or Joba’s velocity. They’ll be fine. I don’t think Bruney will get every key eighth inning chance. I’m hoping there will be times when Veras or Coke or whomever pitches a strong seventh they’ll go another inning.
The Yankees are not fiscally concerned to the point that they would make a utility IF or long reliever decision based on a few bucks.. get real. I agree that Pena should play in Scranton every day.
with the surplus of young pitching we have, 40-man spots are very valuable.
doesn’t keeping Berroa make the most sense, in this regard?
“The Yankees are not fiscally concerned to the point that they would make a utility IF or long reliever decision based on a few bucks.. get real.”
Including the luxury tax, the difference can be more than a million dollars. In the current climate that is lot of money even for Yankees, especailly when they are not able to sell many high priced tickets.
It is amazing how some people just do not get it how much this current financial siutaiton is affecting so many good businesses, including Yankees. It is not monopoly money .
…. The main point is if the performance of the team is not going to suffer on the field with Albaladejo and Pena, then money does become relavant. In fact, with those two guys, the team may be better than the alternatives.
So you tell me I don’t get it and then point out that money will matter in those decisions IF they are viewed as equally good options.
I wrote that they wouldn’t makes the decisions BASED on money considering the comparatievly low $$$ difference and I’m right on that score.
IT really is monolpoly money in many ways. The Yankees are already guaranteed more revenue than they took in last year no matter how well they do moving the remaining “luxury” seats and suites.
I like Coke. He’s going to do really well setting up until Melancon’s ready.
“Is this game on the radio?”
yes , 880 AM in NY.
For the Friday night game against the Cubs, YES is doing a 1 hour pre-game starting at 6PM. They are going to have
Bob Lorenz and John Flaherty on the field, and Kim Jones will be roving around giving us a lot of different looks at all the great stuff inside the new stadium.
Talked to Jorge Posada about Chien-Ming Wang’s pitching yesterday. He said it was so windy at the complex that Wang was literally blown off the mound a few times.
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Imagine if Edwar was there pitching?
My two cents: Yanks should start Ramiro Pena at third as often as possible while A-Rod is out. Why not put the best possible glove there?
“doesn’t keeping Berroa make the most sense, in this regard?”
yes. i think it does.
hardwired-Perhaps they think Ransom has the better bat.
Pena will probably be the UT till ARod returns. Berroa can’t catch. They have to add Pena next year, anyway, and they may even keep him over Ransom if Ransom isn’t hitting when ARod gets back.
“They have to add Pena next year, anyway, ”
i don’t understand this reasoning. a year is a LOOOOOONG time in Yankeeland, and surely they will need that spot for someone AT SOME POINT during the season.
for example, Mark Melancon is not on the 40 man…
i think they need to manage the 40 man very carefully at least until the trade deadline when they can start adding guys like Hacker or Jackson or Miranda as throw-ins….
“IT really is monolpoly money in many ways. The Yankees are already guaranteed more revenue than they took in last year no matter how well they do moving the remaining “luxury” seats and suites.”
They also have more commitments like servicing the debt on the new stadium. All things being equal (revenue, payroll etc.,.), becuse of these additional expenses, they will incur bigger loss this year. It is not monopoly money……
Watch out for Melacon and A-Jax, in that order. Melancon will close when Mo decides to hang it up, and A-Jax is our left fielder of the future when Damon goes.
SA-
My first thought was Edward, too, when I read about the wind blowing CMW off the mound. CMW is a big guy, too.
What are the odds that the Yankees have two players named Melky?
BBFan, if the idea is that Berroa would be cut once A-Rod comes back, i don’t see how money factors into the decision.
but i like your thought process. things are not always as simple as everyone seems to think they are. there are always other factors at play…
Buddy Biancalana-You’re joking, right? Honestly, until Melky Cabrera, I didn’t even know that was a real name…
Melky Mesa was an IFA they signed a few years ago who is very toolsy and has both power and a great arm, but he hasn’t put it together yet and they may end up making him a pitcher.
Backbench
Per the article,
“For the third year in a row, the Sox won the Mayor’s Cup, which goes to the winner of the spring series between the teams that train in Fort Myers.”
The Red Sox and Twins both train in Fort Meyers and compete for th Mayor’s Cup. Whoever wins the most spring games of Twins-Sox gets the cup. It’s actually a fairly big deal for Sox fans, and I guess they can be proud that they beat the Twins a bunch this spring.
Phil-A pitcher? Really? seems a little unusual to turn a position player who’s never pitched before into a pitcher and expect him to compete at a ML level.
I don’t think Ramiro Pena is going to be the utility guy. Once he’s put on the 40-man roster, he’s there to stay.
Pena has also never played a single game above Double-A so he needs to play everyday in Scranton. You’d think they’d rather have him continue to progress at the next level rather than sitting him on the bench in the Bronx.
Berroa is going to get the backup infielder slot because he can be DFA’d once A-Rod returns.
Mark cuban was tweeting b4 game started check it out http://www.twitter.com/mcuban.
Maybe hank should tweet too…
“Phil-A pitcher? Really? seems a little unusual to turn a position player who’s never pitched before into a pitcher and expect him to compete at a ML level.”
this is fairly common, actually. Victor Zambrano is one guy i can think of. Wilkens De La Rosa is another. there are many others.
Mariano Rivera didn’t learn to pitch until he was 20:
1990, a 20 year-old Rivera, then a shortstop, volunteered to pitch for his Panamá Oeste team. A scout for the New York Yankees, Herb Raybourn was in attendance at one of his games. Although Rivera had no formal pitching training, he was throwing 85–87 MPH with a smooth delivery, prompting Raybourn to sign Rivera to a contract with a $3,000 signing bonus.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M......931994.29
curious-Really? I never knew that. You would think it would be harder than that, right?
“BBFan, if the idea is that Berroa would be cut once A-Rod comes back, i don’t see how money factors into the decision.”
Curious, once Berroa is added to the major league roster, his salary ($700K???) is guranteed. Even if he is cut after only three weeks, still the Yanks are on the hook for all of that money, unless they are able to trade him. Same will be true with Tomko as well. That was the point of my original post.
curious
March 29th, 2009 at 1:13 pm
“Phil-A pitcher? Really? seems a little unusual to turn a position player who’s never pitched before into a pitcher and expect him to compete at a ML level.”
this is fairly common, actually. Victor Zambrano is one guy i can think of. Wilkens De La Rosa is another. there are many others.
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Mike Dunn was an outfielder, Troy Percevil was a catcher.
TMVP,
Michael Dunn who is also on the Yanks 40 right now is a converted position player, too. The Yanks do it every year or two.
Wow, I had no idea it was this common. I wish it were so easy…
“Curious, once Berroa is added to the major league roster, his salary ($700K???) is guranteed. Even if he is cut after only three weeks, still the Yanks are on the hook for all of that money, unless they are able to trade him. Same will be true with Tomko as well. That was the point of my original post.”
is it? ok. i was thinking the money wasn’t guaranteed at any point.
still, the “cost” of doing that is not $700K, it’s $300K, or the marginal cost of Berroa over Pena. either player will cost at least $400K.
I think the Yanks will make a little trade or two and cut Geise to make some room on the 40.
I knew it all along. Burnett’s starting to choke. A double and a walk in the first inning against the no-name Pirates. This will be a big mistake.
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I just wanted to get this out of the way, so the season can procede and we won’t need to see this again on the board.
Jeter with an infield hit.
Don’t forget Rick Ankiel of the Cardinals. He was a pitcher and converted the other way, moving to CF when he suddenly lost the strike zone. After sharpening his hitting skills (and probably thanks to some PEDs too) he could play the OF. No surprise the dude had a cannon of an arm for an OF too.
Yes he went to a position after being a pitcher rather than switching positions the other way around. It happens both ways, just not very often.
Makes you wonder why there aren’t more guys out there like Micah Owings.
“still, the “cost” of doing that is not $700K, it’s $300K, or the marginal cost of Berroa over Pena. either player will cost at least $400K.”
You are right, though for Tomko I think it is higher figure. When you factor in the luxury tax of 40%, the total additional cost will come to about one million.
….the additional cost for both Brrroa and Tomko.
yeah, if the money is indeed guaranteed, i agree with your assessment.
Gameday:
http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/gameday.....b_nyamlb_1
wcbs? Isn’t that channel 2? They’re giving motorcycle racing followed by basketball.
HELP
WCBS 880-radio.
wcbs RADIO.
“wcbs? Isn’t that channel 2? They’re giving motorcycle racing followed by basketball.
HELP”
I think by WCBS, it was meant radio AM 880.
“Meanwhile the “Hip Hip Jorge” cheer is played out. ”
Agreed.
He said it was so windy at the complex that Wang was literally blown off the mound a few times.
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CC’s girth has advantages.
Hinske homers and we are tied.
Guess it’s not AJ’s day.
Ouch.I’m on gameday right now. Here’s hoping A.J. could go six and allow three runs or less.
Rebecca-Not necessarily. He has more innings to work with here and can still pull off a good outing.
Eric hinske plays every year on a different team… What’s with him? Looks like a good hitter.
A double for the X-Man!
What up guys….i have a yahoo fantasy baseball league that i am running and we had 12 guys league full and then one guy wanted to invite his friend and we had no room so i said no sorry…so him and his 6 friends all bounced on the league and started a new one…draft is tonight at 10pm …h2h league it will be very competitive and fun …the league right now is mostly made up from YESboard posters who i know…anyone interested shoot me and email..mguito@yahoo.com
thanks and hope we can fill this league up
And Pena reaches on an error!
Aw, Gardner grounds out.
I’m in MD, trying to listen to a game for the first time on streaming audio…but 880′s got some regular newscast on. Are they broadcasting a game but not streaming it??
They don’t stream the games online to listen to
Aaron: I think you have to stream through MLB Gameday Audio
ANY of them? Weak. Was hoping I’d be able to start doing this.
I’m listening through MLB gameday on my phone
Rebecca, what’s the link to that?
$20 a month or $120 for the season buys you audio and video via mlb.com.
Pena makes a great play fielding and throwing out the bunter.
What happens when you DR Pena and then he ends up having to hit in a big spot?
mel,
thanks.
Ed,
Haha. Just another PSA from mlb.com.
Rebecca on your phone I didnt think you could do that yet. I thought the only way to do that is with te new iphone application which I think has not launched yet
mel, they should pay you for helping them promoting. hahas.
gayle: I downloaded the mlb gameday with audio program. It’s really cool.
Nick Swisher in a long at bat.
Good job by Swisher, working a difficult walk.
swisher clogs up the bases.
Ed,
Sponsorship deal is in the works.
Swish needs a pedometer, he’s walking so much.
Swisher likes walking. lol, he think it’s good for his health.
Bad job by Posada.
Makes an out after 3 balls, no strikes.
I think the Pena/Berroa debate comes down to how the Yanks view Pena. If they see him as Jeter’s replacement they should send him down so he can get regular work. if not, keep hm as the utility guy. I personally think they should send him down to work on his bat.
Leadoff double.
Let’s see if Burnett can get out of this one.
Hopefully, we have a while before Jeet’s replaced.
Man on third, one out.
First and third, one out. DP here would be huge.
Full count on Moss.
Burnett’s missing a lot in the upper right hand corner.
Hopefuly yes, probably no. We can’t afford to stick our head in the and on this one. If we groom Pena we don’t need to sign someone like Hardy.
I’ll say this again tell Berroa nice knowing ya, Ramiro Pena deserves the uty spot. We have enough DHs and Ramiro is a good glove, good runner, accurate arm and a good bunter.
BTW SUZYN AND JOHN = THE WORST RADIO ANNOUNCING TEAM EVER !
Steve in MN-You’re right, we need to groom an eventual replacment, but I think Jeet has a while yet. And Burnett’s walked the bases loaded.
Sorry, already loaded. Run scores.
“We have enough DHs and Ramiro is a good glove, good runner, accurate arm and a good bunter. ”
do I dare to say we have our very own Omar Vizquel?
Brandon-You’re right. Sterling and Waldman are terrible announcers.
Teixeiramvp,
Don’t give play-by-play analysis based on what you see on GameDay.
They are not accurate.
A.J. forces the DP. Good job getting out of there allowing only one run.
Franco-You mean Gameday?
Homer by Cano!
Can’t see anybody messing up that one.
Franco-You mean Gameday?
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Whatever you want to call it. The results are not accurate.
Every pitch is chest high and some are being called strikes.
‘Brandon-You’re right. Sterling and Waldman are terrible announcers.’
Disgustingly terrible. Cano hit a monster shot right now.
‘do I dare to say we have our very own Omar Vizquel?’
Think a Rey Ordonez who can hit.
“do I dare to say we have our very own Omar Vizquel?”
As long as you’re not over-hyping this unproven, unheralded young minor leaguer, sure.
Teixeiramvp
March 29th, 2009 at 2:33 pm
A.J. forces the DP. Good job getting out of there allowing only one run.
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The run scored on a throwing error by Posada, when he threw the ball into center on the walk.
Pena bunts and beats the throw.
Franco-No, what I meant was I wasn’t sure if you were insulting me or Gameday! Glad it was Gameday…
Gardner bunts and beats the throw
[quote]To me, you keep Pena. He’s twice as good on defense and he can pinch run. Isn’t that what you want from a utility infielder? Berroa has a better bat but how often is that player going to hit?[/quote]
Why on earth would you keep a young developing player on the bench?
(The html on this site is different than I’m used to, so forgive me if I mess it up)
Meanwhile, Sterling just lost his mind over Gardner beating out a bunt. Wow.
Thanks for telling me, Greenberet7. Missed that one.
Bout time Gardner bunted
LaRoche fielded that ball good from what it sounds but Pena and Gardner just placed it perfectly and were too fast for his arm.
Thank goodness. Wouldn’t be able to stand another go-around about Gardner’s bunting skills.
Both Gardner and Pena beat out bunt singles. Nice small ball by the Yankees.
Now hit a Granny, Jeter! (Not intended the way it sounds).
I thought Gardner couldn’t bunt?
At least that’s what some people on this board keep telling us.
Sterling and Suzyn are killing me, thank goodness for a DVR, so I can record the games and not have to listen to them on the radio when not at home.
Franco-Always heard he was a great bunter. With his speed, he better be.
I just really don’t want to see another prospect rushed up and ruined. I think Jeter has at most 2 decent seasons left. Why stunt Pena’s growth? How much would it cost us to keep Berroa for a month, then release him when A-Rod continues. I guess you could also argue that a month as a utility guy wouldn’t stunt Pena’s growth though…
Gardner’s going to take off now.
‘Why on earth would you keep a young developing player on the bench?’
Because he won’t be on the bench, he might be the 3B w/ Ransom PH (since he’s better at that) or the other way around. Plus you have to find out what you have in him, there is a kid Eduardo Nunez and another one in Carmen Angelini who will likely surpass him.
I hate when Sterling yells, “It is high! It is far! It is…caught at the wall.” There were a couple of times he did this last yr. that nearly made me have a heart attack.
Pena is not even close to ready. He’s not a .300 hitter and he makes too many errors on easy plays. There is no reason to have him in NYY right now. If Berroa bombs, they don’t lose anything and only need to use one spot on the 40 man. If they start with Pena, then he bombs, NYY will have to lose another player off of the 40 man roster, and there’s nobody else available to slide into the utility spot. In affect they have to expose two players to waivers instead of one.
“Now hit a Granny, Jeter!”
Arod is expected back in late April and Tabata is no longer with the organization.
Hey better Sterling yelling than Suzyn, we remember how the last yell from her went about Roger.
“Arod is expected back in late April and Tabata is no longer with the organization.”
LOL
Pete, you say AJ is terrible today. Well i’d take that over the terrible days of last year with Rasner and Ponson. 2 runs allowed. Last year the other team would have 5-6 runs by now. AJ keeps the team in the game and smallball makes the Yanks come back.
That call from Suzyn about Roger was hysterical…I thought she was going to have a fit.
That call from Suzyn about Roger was hysterical…I thought she was going to have a fit.
“Now hit a Granny, Jeter!”
Does Olbermann have kids?
This is what I expect to see over the course of the season, lots of first to third if Gardner can get on in front of Jeter and Damon, guranteed rbi’s for Tex.
GB I get you but he’s 23, if he were 19 or 21 I understand AAA or AA, but if your telling me Berroa off of ST should get that UTY spot over a possible 4 tool player who seems comfortable up here than I will say you are nuts.
Terry-He’s terrible now, with two runs in, and one earned, he could still pull it together and go six innings with decent numbers.
“Because he won’t be on the bench, he might be the 3B w/ Ransom PH (since he’s better at that) or the other way around.”
I don’t understand why Yankee fans always fall in love with a player after a few games. Pena’s not on the 40-man. So now you’re pulling someone else off it for someone who may not be able to hit a lick and may not continue his slick fielding under the bright Stadium lights. Remember, A-Gon was supposed to be a slick fielder, too. Once he hit the regular season, he was booting everything.
“Pete, you say AJ is terrible today. Well i’d take that over the terrible days of last year with Rasner and Ponson. 2 runs allowed. Last year the other team would have 5-6 runs by now. AJ keeps the team in the game and smallball makes the Yanks come back.”
No offense to Pete, but we all know Pete is reactionary like the New York media, heaven forbid a guy doesn’t go out there every game and pitch 7 innings, 70 pitches, 0 earned runs, 0 walks, etc. I mean the media is talking about Jeter’s pinky, his pinky, so that says it all.
Looks like the wheels fell off pretty quickly for Zack Duke.
Hit a granny Jeter may become my new slogan. Or catchphrase, if you want to call it that.
You’d have to take a player off the 40 to add Berroa, too. Pena’s a better player than A-Gon was and that’s one of the reasons they traded A-Gon at the deadline last year. They had a better version.
I guess we all got spoiled after those 2 perfect games in the 90′s.
Yes, that was a joke.
“You’d have to take a player off the 40 to add Berroa, too. Pena’s a better player than A-Gon was and that’s one of the reasons they traded A-Gon at the deadline last year. They had a better version.”
I don’t believe they traded him. I think they released him.
Who’s A-Gon?
No offense to Pete, but we all know Pete is reactionary like the New York media, heaven forbid a guy doesn’t go out there every game and pitch 7 innings, 70 pitches, 0 earned runs, 0 walks, etc.
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But if Brunett looks terrible than he looks terrible. It’s not a knock against him personally.
It just means he’s not throwing the ball well today. Don’t read anything more into it.
Truth be told, Berroa stinks defensively, it seems he always bobbles a play to him, he is guaranteed to boot some balls to him over the course of the season.
Either way Berroa would be warming the bench for Arod, but his defense is not very good from what I’ve witnessed with him moving his feet and playing the ball in the infield. So with good pitching it may make sense to have a more sure handed fielder on the roster.
hopefully Gardner contiunes to drag bunt (ie try to bunt for base hits)
the differential it adds to his OBP, could determine whether he will be a starting CF or a career 4th outfielder. Yes it could.
(think: .325 OBP versus .360 OBP)
Teixeiramvp,
Out of curiosity, how old are you?
Berroa is a lousy defender and a lousy hitter. Has been for some time. A decent spring doesn’t change that.
He’ll cost you runs with his glove.
You keep Pena, he’s already an exceptional defender. Scouts rave about his defense. He also has a lot more speed.
His bat is still a weakness, but he’s coming along.
It’s all about defense.
Teixeiramvp,
Hit a Granny, Jeter can mean so many things!
It’s been a long time since we’ve batted around. If AJ’s been awful, how do you describe Duke? He had it going for a while, but those never say die Yankees wore him down.
‘I don’t understand why Yankee fans always fall in love with a player after a few games. Pena’s not on the 40-man. So now you’re pulling someone else off it for someone who may not be able to hit a lick and may not continue his slick fielding under the bright Stadium lights. Remember, A-Gon was supposed to be a slick fielder, too. Once he hit the regular season, he was booting everything.’
A-gon was a damn good fielder IDK which guy you were watching, remember Fenway Park and against the Indians on FOX 5 ? His first 5 games was raw, after that his glove was outstanding.
Berroa is playing UTY, he’s not all the sudden becoming a PH monster, he can’t run, isn’t selective at the plate, fielding has dropped off, why am I choosing him over a 23 yr. old that has shown he can do all of this and raise trade value ?
“But if Brunett looks terrible than he looks terrible. It’s not a knock against him personally.
It just means he’s not throwing the ball well today. Don’t read anything more into it.”
Agreed. Plus, if Pete’s reactionary (which he often is) then so are the fans. From what I can tell (obviously, no tv coverage) he’s having trouble locating his fastball. He’s done what he’s had to do to get out of trouble, but that doesn’t mean he looks good.
how posada thrown a ball in cf on a walk
Franco-Rather not say. Nothing personal, just don’t like putting that information onto the net.
“I don’t believe they traded him. I think they released him”
the attorney general was traded to the Nationals. It is why we have two Texeria’s on the team.
Isn’t this a fun.
Yanks break this game wiiiide open. Let’s see if the X-man can match Swisher’s double.
If we are going to over hype Pena let’s go all the way – he’s a 6 tool player –
I just lent him my screwdriver and hammer.
“Berroa is playing UTY, he’s not all the sudden becoming a PH monster, he can’t run, isn’t selective at the plate, fielding has dropped off, why am I choosing him over a 23 yr. old that has shown he can do all of this and raise trade value ?”
I don’t recall ever saying I preferred Berroa. I just have a problem with putting a developing player on the bench. He won’t be starting over Ransom, either.
Teixeiramvp,
Is it fair to say you are in your teens?
I’ll leave it at that.
Phil
March 29th, 2009 at 2:47 pm
You’d have to take a player off the 40 to add Berroa, too. Pena’s a better player than A-Gon was and that’s one of the reasons they traded A-Gon at the deadline last year. They had a better version.
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If they take Pena north, they have to remove a man from the 40 man roster. They’ll lose Berroa, because somebody will pick him up. If Pena bombs, they need to bring in somebody else and drop another player from the 40 man roster. That’s two players removed from the 40 man.
If they start with Berroa, they only drop one player from the 40 man roster. If he bombs, they can release him and bring in Pena. They only lose one spot on the 40 man roster instead of two. It’s not that hard to figure out. Berroa is a decent enough fielder and hitter to fill that 25th spot.
Nick in SF
Rules, Madonna as Granny, Oh Boy.
Elizabeth, they traded A-Gon to the Nats for Jhonny Nunez at the deadline last year. Since then, Nunez was included in the Swisher deal.
Franco-Please do. Again, rather not say.
I will say though, regardless of age, I know a lot about baseball and the Yankees.
GB7
They’re probably gonna cut Giese, and may trade an extra pitcher or two from the 40 before the start of the season. They love what they are seeing from Pena.
“they traded A-Gon to the Nats for Jhonny Nunez at the deadline last year. Since then, Nunez was included in the Swisher deal”
my bad. Had my trades crossed up (Texeria/pitcher)
Well, Nady singles. Not a double, but not terrible.
vinny b- Tyler Clippard was traded for Gonzalez, we got Texiera as a part of the Swisher trade
Alberto Gonzalez was traded to the National on 7/31 for pitcher Johnny Nunez and the other Texeira is a pitcher who came over with Swisher in the White Sox deal, getting rid of everyones favorite Yankee-betemit!
Gameday says someone “singled to Jeter.” Can anyone clarify what that means?
got my trades mixed up as well
clippard for alba was the trade
If it’s only about this year then you put Pena on the MLB roster, but if they remain committed to player development you don’t take a 23-year-old and stunt his development by making him a utility infielder. I say play Pena every day at Scranton and keep Berroa until Alex is ready.
Makes more sense considering the 40-man roster implications as GB 7 pointed out.
Of course if Jeter/Cano goes down than you call up Pena.
‘I don’t recall ever saying I preferred Berroa. I just have a problem with putting a developing player on the bench. He won’t be starting over Ransom, either.’
The developing player is on the fence, it’s either make it or break it w/ him, you know how many yrs. the Yankees have had this kid in the system ? he has 2 – 4 players already gunning for his spot in this system.
IIRC:
clippard gave us albaladejo!?
RJohnson gave us Gonzalez, Ohlendorf, x
gonzalez gave us Jhonny Nunez
Ahem, Albaladejo
Wasn’t A-Jax originally a first baseman? Is it possible he could learn to play short?
Jeter was late with the jump throw. That’s what singled to Jeter meant.
Teixeiramvp
March 29th, 2009 at 3:01 pm
Gameday says someone “singled to Jeter.” Can anyone clarify what that means?
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Infield single to shortstop.
Ouch, Burnett’s third run. In my eyes, if he allows one more it’s officially a bad outing.
Austin Jackson was not a 1B.
Phil-No? Funny, I thought so.
For some reason, I thought they moved him when Tex was signed.
Phil and Greenberet7-Thanks for clarifying.
Ramiro Pena exciting young man
Likely won’t be better than
Eduardo Nunez, Carmen Angelini, Corban Joseph and my mind escapes me on the other guy.
3 run HR for Doumit
Lassiter and Mojica are both having good camps and are in the long term SS mix.
Another HR-this time for LaRoche
So, not the best day for AJ.
Burnett getting bombed…oy vey should the yankees release him today?
Burnett probably wants to forget about today…
Brandon ( I Love Me Some Me), Clyde on Mike Taylor: “Round and round I go, where I stop nobody knows…”
March 29th, 2009 at 3:06 pm
Ramiro Pena exciting young man
Likely won’t be better than
Eduardo Nunez, Carmen Angelini, Corban Joseph and my mind escapes me on the other guy.
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Addison Maruszak.
Ehhhh, I guess his outing is officially bad.
As Peter put it, it’s a “hey, it’s just traing day.”.
AJ is just being a good teammate – he wanted to make sure everyone else got their work in – unlike that selfish guy, CC, who went all the way into the 8th inning the other day!
(j/k)
Sorry, training,
Nunez at A Ball, Angellini had a tough year at Charleston. Joseph and Lassiter at least four to five years away if ever. Even Nunez is out of AA.
Doreen-Well, that makes joba just swell, too!
Teixeiramvp -
No, Joba is not expected to go deep – AJ is!
ouch aj, that hurts his st era
So Joba isn’t any better than you or me, he’s just following orders?
Randy Johnson gave us Pitchers Russ Ohlendorf, Steven Jackson, Luis Viscaino, and shortstop Alberto Gonzalez, from the Diamondbacks.
Alberto Gonzalez gave us Jhonny Nunez, from the Nationals. The other Alberto Gonzalez was given to us by George W. Bush.
Jhonny Nunez, Jeff Marquez and Wilson Betemit gave us Nick Swisher and pitcher Kanekoa Texeira, from the White Sox.
Moses gave us the Ten Commandments!
“Eduardo Nunez, Carmen Angelini, Corban Joseph and my mind escapes me on the other guy”
Damon Sublett, Justin Snyder
don’t sleep on Sublett
I think we can all probably assume it’s his dead-arm day.
Ouch, tie game. What a lousy lead to blow. Terrible pitching for the Yanks.
Better to have the stinker now than next week.
Looking for ppl who wanna donate some money to buy new glasses for john sterling that might prevent a few fans of having heart attacks
I take back what I said earlier. AJ is terrible today. OMG! But we all know what he is capable of so I will take that.
Sublett’s a 2nd baseman.
Hey always good to have one of these in Spring, don’t want things going too good.
As long as guys make it out of camp healthy and ready to go count your lucky stars.
and marte gives a run to lefties, well blowing a 5 run is cool
AJ threw 90 pitches or so, I believe. As long as he’s healthy, that’s all that matters. Build the arm strength & stay healthy. That’s all spring training is about for a veteran pitcher.
Damon must have made some catch. My ears popped from Sterling’s voice screeching
‘Nunez at A Ball, Angellini had a tough year at Charleston. Joseph and Lassiter at least four to five years away if ever. Even Nunez is out of AA.’
That’s the guy Lassiter. Nunez is getting promoted because of his ST. Angelini likely bounces back this yr. all four have high upsides, Ramiro Pena won’t be better than them if they hit thier stride.
And so is Corban Joseph.
Marte, however, sucks.
‘Damon must have made some catch. My ears popped from Sterling’s voice screeching’
The guy screams for a can of corn pop up, so IDK what to believe.
Good lord, can’t wait for the media, OMG what’s wrong with Burnett, Yankees should have never signed him, He’s Carla Pavano. Why isn’t Joba throwing 98 mph as a starter.
The guy screams for a can of corn pop up, so IDK what to believe.
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Hahahaha.
How many more years do we have John and Suzyn doing Yankees games?
Gardner on base again
Like I mentioned earlier, John would give me heart attacks every time he called an “almost” home run.
‘Hahahaha.
How many more years do we have John and Suzyn doing Yankees games?’
Until somebody pulls the mic off his mouth or until he catches laryngitis.
Gardner with another SB oh no stering didn’t see he is CS
Gardner’s gonna steal.
Gardner’s speed caused him to overslide the bag.
mo-He did steal? If so, gameday’s missing something.
He was caught? Darn!
85 million for a guy who just blew an 8-2 lead? I hope we dont have another Jeff Weaver on our hands.. that is unacceptable Burnett!
Madonna-Give him a break, it’s his first bad start of the Spring! And anyway, it’s spring. Not to mention, he didn’t blow the lead, Marte did.
marte is the next felix horrendous.
He overslid the bag and then was tagged out. Sterling called him safe “no chance they get him” told ya guys we need to buy him new glassess asap
Madonna March 29th, 2009 at 3:30 pm
85 million for a guy who just blew an 8-2 lead? I hope we dont have another Jeff Weaver on our hands.. that is unacceptable Burnett!
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Did you adopt a new child yet from Malawi?
‘marte is the next felix horrendous.’
So how are things going w/ Jesus ?
“Sublett’s a 2nd baseman”
I took it, the topic involved potential utility players
If Madonna adopts Tabata, the circle will be closed.
How many pitches for Mo this inning? Hopefully more than 5 so he gets some work in
Madonna-Marte has done bad this Spring (at least, I’m pretty sure he has) but ST stats really mean nothing. You want proof, look at Cano from last yr. Had a red-hot Spring and an ice cold first half. We’ll really see how good he is come the regular season!
Pena switches to SS, now again not saying anything but how clear is it that GI Joe wants him to stay.
Fellow bloggers I’m looking to follow fellow bloggers and yankee fans on twitter.
Please folow me http://www.twitter.com/sportsinyiddish I will follow u back.
Annnnnd the minor leaguers come in.
Whoaaaaa…Mo allowed a hit…I didn’t even know that was possible…
‘If Madonna adopts Tabata, the circle will be closed.’
LOL
AJ experiencing a little dead arm syndrome today ??? Spartans plus 6….Are you out here Nick in SF ???
David Newhan was just released, just saying we can release Berroa keep Pena, sign Newhan to a minor league deal vuala UTY back up plan.
Mo strikes out the side. He’s not human.
“David Newhan was just released, just saying we can release Berroa keep Pena, sign Newhan to a minor league deal vuala UTY back up plan.”
at least Newhan is better than Berrora.
vuala = voila I presume.
“Mo strikes out the side. He’s not human.”
Guess he needed some extra work allowing Morgan on base, like here kid take this.
‘vuala = voila I presume.’
you presumed correctly.
I don’t’ know what it is about Berroa, but he just doesn’t strike me as a winning, gutty, gritty player, that will scrap in every limited opportunity he is given, he just seems to be a guy who is destined to be waived even if he makes the team.
PAT M: I’m here. I took Spartans +7 2H and under 73, I also have Louis +3 in a couple teasers for a nice little middle.
Ed – 2009 season can’t start soon enough
March 29th, 2009 at 3:44 pm
“David Newhan was just released, just saying we can release Berroa keep Pena, sign Newhan to a minor league deal vuala UTY back up plan.”
at least Newhan is better than Berrora.
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Newhan has never played shortstop except for two games in the minors in ’98 and ’99, and is brutal at third base. The only time he’s ever shown he could hit in the majors was in 2004 in half a season. He’s not going to help too much.
GB,
thanks for the clarification. What I meant was, he’s more verstile than Berrora.
Who said for SS GB ? 2B/3B/OF UTY… Berroa certainly ain’t any better on SS defense.
“If we are going to over hype Pena let’s go all the way – he’s a 6 tool player –
I just lent him my screwdriver and hammer.”
DT-
what the hell, i’ll throw in my catcher’s mask so that makes him a 7 tool player.
“If we are going to over hype Pena let’s go all the way – he’s a 6 tool player –
I just lent him my screwdriver and hammer.”
DT-
‘what the hell, i’ll throw in my catcher’s mask so that makes him a 7 tool player.’
Give him a clipboard, make him an 8 – Tool
Give him Papelbon and make him a 9-tool.
Cash said he wanted to get younger and better defensively. Adding Pena does that, adding Berroa does the opposite. Of course, playing Nady over Swisher also does the opposite, but in fairness Nady is younger and a better defender than Abreu was, so there is marginal adherence to Cashman’s goal there.
Ed – 2009 season can’t start soon enough
March 29th, 2009 at 3:51 pm
GB,
thanks for the clarification. What I meant was, he’s more verstile than Berrora.
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No, he’s not. What good is a utility infielder that can’t play SS or 3rd base? They don’t need a guy who plays an average outfield.
Carmen is at SS, now Pena is at 2B
Too bad about AJ’s bad start, but as long as he’s healthy, I don’t care.
First stinker for AJ, better now than next week.
http://twitter.com/bryanhoch :
Burnett says it’s just a slight mechanical adjustment. “I’m ready to pitch under the lights.”
‘No, he’s not. What good is a utility infielder that can’t play SS or 3rd base? They don’t need a guy who plays an average outfield.’
What’s w/ the blind love for Berroa GB, snap out of it man, I had the same problem a yr. ago w/ Eric Threets, remember ?
Carmen turned his first ST DP.
“Carmen is at SS, now Pena is at 2B”
Pena playing everywhere during the game, it makes more sense that Girardi will choose Pena over Berrora.
Brandon ( I Love Me Some Me), Clyde on Mike Taylor: “Round and round I go, where I stop nobody knows…”
March 29th, 2009 at 4:03 pm
‘No, he’s not. What good is a utility infielder that can’t play SS or 3rd base? They don’t need a guy who plays an average outfield.’
What’s w/ the blind love for Berroa GB, snap out of it man, I had the same problem a yr. ago w/ Eric Threets, remember ?
Carmen turned his first ST DP.
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I don’t have any particular affinity for Berroa, but, I’m not in favor of using two spots on the 40 man roster for a AA player, either, when there’s no proof that he can do the job. He’s been below average on defense and offense throughout his career, which included two full years at AA and parts of two others.
“What’s w/ the blind love for Berroa GB, snap out of it man, I had the same problem a yr. ago w/ Eric Threets, remember ?”
speaking of Threets, you still want him? I still prefer Hinshaw/Coke over Threets.
‘Pena playing everywhere during the game, it makes more sense that Girardi will choose Pena over Berrora.’
It’s so clear too, Angel has looked bad a SS, was moved off of 2B the other day, he’s now at 3B and GI Joe is playing around the world in game for Pena.
Ed don’t start.
GB you’d take Berroa’s defense or Pena’s right now ? forget spot, we’re talking defense here.
AJ confident, I like that. I knew it was probably a mechanical thing. He, like every other pitcher, gets whacked around occasionally, but this just seemed to bad to be true. When it’s this bad, most of the time it seems like it comes down to mechanics.
Brandon
as for the utility player, I wonder if Cashman asked the Rockies and Red GM, what they wants for Keppinger and Baker? Last I heard, Boston is interested in them.
Brandon ( I Love Me Some Me), Clyde on Mike Taylor: “Round and round I go, where I stop nobody knows…”
March 29th, 2009 at 4:10 pm
Ed don’t start.
GB you’d take Berroa’s defense or Pena’s right now ? forget spot, we’re talking defense here.
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He’s still making too many careless errors. If Berroa bombs, then they can bring Pena in. Not the other way around.
Well at least Mo threw more than 5 pitches this inning.
Michigan State taking it to Louisville..
Sterling amazed at the fact there are 2 Melky’s out there.
DT-
what the hell, i’ll throw in my catcher’s mask so that makes him a 7 tool player.
Well you do need a lot of tools to be a utility guy. Fix this – repair that – get Arod coffee. It’s a tough job.
‘Sterling amazed at the fact there are 2 Melky’s out there.’
We’re still amazed he and his compañera works the play by play.
“If they take Pena north, they have to remove a man from the 40 man roster. They’ll lose Berroa, because somebody will pick him up. If Pena bombs, they need to bring in somebody else and drop another player from the 40 man roster. That’s two players removed from the 40 man.
If they start with Berroa, they only drop one player from the 40 man roster. If he bombs, they can release him and bring in Pena. They only lose one spot on the 40 man roster instead of two. It’s not that hard to figure out. Berroa is a decent enough fielder and hitter to fill that 25th spot.”
GB, notmally what you say is sound logic.
But is it, under the current yankee situaiton?
Once A-Rod is back after two to four weeks of regular season, whether it is Berroa or Pena, he will be sent down. Ransom will become the Uitlity guy who has already proven in that role.
Of course, they may need a 40 slot for some other reason like if something happens to Posada, then they will fiugre out what to do. Even in that case if they decide to stay with Cervelli, it is not an issue.
Now they are talking about Law & Order.
‘Now they are talking about Law & Order.’
Can you imagine a 16 or 18 yr. old listening to Yankee games on radio listening to that tandem relate to thier generations, law and order umm..some other crap from the 60′s and 70′s that no one cares about, for godsakes they can’t even relate to the players in the Yankees minor league system.
can we get excited about phil coke? or is it spring training?
Anyone else listening to John and Suzie broadcast this game?
If I hear them cry one more time about missing their plane back to NYC I’m gonna scream.
“Ack John, the last plane out of Tampa is 6:30!!”
“Well, that’s murphy’s law, isn’t it.”
“John, how much would it cost to rent a plane?”
“Too much Suzie, yada yada yada”
Am I the only one who hopes this game goes extra innings now?
Add to that the mono tone to the games they call. They still don’t know anything of the players in the system, and now they are joking on Chase Wright.
BBFan
March 29th, 2009 at 4:20 pm
“If they take Pena north, they have to remove a man from the 40 man roster. They’ll lose Berroa, because somebody will pick him up. If Pena bombs, they need to bring in somebody else and drop another player from the 40 man roster. That’s two players removed from the 40 man.
If they start with Berroa, they only drop one player from the 40 man roster. If he bombs, they can release him and bring in Pena. They only lose one spot on the 40 man roster instead of two. It’s not that hard to figure out. Berroa is a decent enough fielder and hitter to fill that 25th spot.”
GB, notmally what you say is sound logic.
But is it, under the current yankee situaiton?
Once A-Rod is back after two to four weeks of regular season, whether it is Berroa or Pena, he will be sent down. Ransom will become the Uitlity guy who has already proven in that role.
Of course, they may need a 40 slot for some other reason like if something happens to Posada, then they will fiugre out what to do. Even in that case if they decide to stay with Cervelli, it is not an issue.
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Other than Giese and probably Hacker, the other 38 players are better players to protect than Pena. It’s those players that need to be protected. If Pena does well at Scranton, then, fine, he can be brought in as a utility player or more, but, flashy as he is, he’s not going to be spectacular. He’s at best, an average utility guy down the road.
I hope not.
But
I have a feeling both
the exhibition and regular season opener
will be postponed by
snow or rain.
Question – how easy/hard is it to get your mechanics out of whack? Is this a function of it being ST and AJ (or anyone else who has one of these very bad days) simply not having enough innings under his belt? That is, these guys were off for several months before starting to throw – are these mechanical issues due to the fact that they just don’t have sufficient innings under their bet? If so, then once the season starts and they get on a roll, the mechanical issues (at least to this extent) basically go away?
Also, I read somewhere that AJ has a pretty violent delivery and that is why he has had so many arm/elbow problems. However, when I see him, I see someone who has a very smooth, fluid delivery – I just don’t see what’s violent about it. I have no clue about this sort of thing, so please correct me if I’m wrong.I did read that they did make some adjustments to his delivery at some point when he was with Toronto, so perhaps AJ did have less-than-ideal mechanics. Thoughts?
Thanks!
shut up about the plane you old fart !
They are the epitome of obsequious banter run amok, considering I like to see my games in all its HD glory, I haven’t listen to them in a long time, I turned on the radio this afternoon and quickly had to shut it off, would rather lag behind in Gameday updates than listen to them.
GB, I think they will DFA Giese to get Pena on 40. Giese will not be missed as they have Aceves and also Tomko until June.
Brandon ( I Love Me Some Me), Clyde on Mike Taylor: “Round and round I go, where I stop nobody knows…”
March 29th, 2009 at 4:29 pm
shut up about the plane you old fart !
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Their mutual idiocy isn’t related to their age.
Man, you know the game is beyond the pale when SETH FORTENBERRY is in the game
Check this video from an obstructed view seat in the brand new Citi Field.
http://newstadiuminsider.blogs.....ts-at.html
“John, how much would it cost to rent a plane?”
“Too much Suzie, yada yada yada”
Am I the only one who hopes this game goes extra innings now?”
DT: I thought you were going to type, ‘Am I the only one who hopes their plane crashes’
the Milwaukee Brewers have Bob Uecker as their radio man. And the NY Yankees (aka the most storied franchise)? John Sterling. Utterly amazing
I think Berroa goes north when the club breaks camp…Pena will get the call if things don’t shake out with Berroa…..Cashman will go with the vet to start with….Playing at Big Stein Field is alot different than palying in Big Stein Stadium in the Bronx…..Taking a small flyer with Oaklahoma plus 7….Dispise the Tarheels..
Can’t stand the nasal tones of Suzyn and Linda Cohn.
Cal
March 29th, 2009 at 4:29 pm
They are the epitome of obsequious banter run amok, considering I like to see my games in all its HD glory, I haven’t listen to them in a long time, I turned on the radio this afternoon and quickly had to shut it off, would rather lag behind in Gameday updates than listen to them.
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It’s no fun, being at their mercy. Sterling’s worse. At least Suzyn does her research and talks to players, scouts, coaches, etc. But they are terrible.
the Milwaukee Brewers have Bob Uecker as their radio man. And the NY Yankees (aka the most storied franchise)? John Sterling. Utterly amazing
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Cal,
I hope the big league boys can be as clutch as these “minor” leaguers. They’ve won a lot of our games in the late innings.
“Man, you know the game is beyond the pale when SETH FORTENBERRY is in the game”
I thought I heard MARV THRONEBERRY, but I’m not concentrating – I’m just too upset about the possible missed plane thing.
WOW nick thanks for that video I’m going to send it to one of my friends and hope he doesn’t end up w/ that seat, What a ….d up view
I’m enjoying listening to the fans in the background chanting more than listening to John and Suzyn screeching.
Where is screaming fan when ya need him?
DT: I thought you were going to type, ‘Am I the only one who hopes their plane crashes’
Naw – I wouldn’t even wish that on them.
I can see John at the airport now –
“Look Suzie – it’s our plane – IT IS HIGH, IT IS FAR, IT IS GONE… oh wait it’s still at the gate”
One can only hope that Angelini progresses as fast as Jeter did in his second year. Both had terrible first years, both with the glove and bat. Possibly very similar players. Both have outstanding speed and decent power, though they strike out too much for singles/doubles type hitters.
GARDNER SAVE SOME HITS FOR THE REGULAR SEASON BRO
DT
March 29th, 2009 at 4:37 pm
“Man, you know the game is beyond the pale when SETH FORTENBERRY is in the game”
I thought I heard MARV THRONEBERRY, but I’m not concentrating – I’m just too upset about the possible missed plane thing.
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Fortenberry is an outstanding fielder at all three positions. Really good line drive power and very good speed.
Fortenberry is an outstanding ***outfielder*** at all three positions
NICKSF.
Did you play the NC/OK game?
-dennis
Are S&J really complaining about missing a plane? Deal with it, sheesh……or find another sport that has a time limit.
Scooter used to leave games early so he wouldn’t hit traffic on the bridge, but his “complaints” were always charming…..
Heads up play by the Swish. Didn’t see the play, but I’m almost certain Big G wouldn’t have made that one.
DT, that’s hilarious….or “Oh my goodness gracious, the plane is going to leave without us!”
I can see John at the airport now –
“Look Suzie – it’s our plane – IT IS HIGH, IT IS FAR, IT IS GONE… oh wait it’s still at the gate”
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“Look Suzie – it’s our plane – IT IS HIGH, IT IS FAR, IT IS GONE… oh wait it’s still at the gate”
hilarious
“Fortenberry is an *outstanding fielder*”
GB – Can we say then that Fortenberry is the anti-Throneberry?
“Look Suzie – it’s our plane – IT IS HIGH, IT IS FAR, IT IS GONE… oh wait it’s still at the gate”
More like
Look Suzie it’s our plane, IT IS HIGHHHHH, IT IS FARRRRRR, IT ISSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS….Not our plane, my god Suzie, we’re on the wrong plane ! What do we do ?!
Why John I think we’ll just have to make due w/ it and catch another.
Sterling excited like the game counts…
I don’t understand why its Albaladejo that has to fight for that last spot over a long man. He should make the team over that waste of a bullpen spot in Edwar Ramirez. Albaladejo has been great all spring long and also been healthy. If anything it should Edwar competing against the long relievers for that spot. He missed half of spring training with an injury that he had since last year and didn’t tell the team until this year when he had all offseason to do so. And don’t give me this “he was on the team year” garbage because if not for Albaladejo’s injury last year he would have been on the team all year long with the way he was pitching not Edwar. Plus, Edwar is so over rated by all yankee fans. He has been over rated since he made his debut and struck out the side in the ninth versus the twins. Lets not forget the score was 8-0. Anyone can do that when the score is 8-0. He has never been that good since. He is one of those guys that looks good when he is in a good bullpen. You are easy able to hide the fact that he is not that good. Just watch by mid-may/early-june, Edwar will have blown 3 games and have a five era and Melancon will be lighting Triple A. Cashman will not wait as long he did to pull the trigger like he did with Hawkins last years. For as much as Girardi loves Edwar (for some unknown reason), Edwars spot in the pen can be had because still has minor league options. He has the next Latroy Hawkins written all over him and will not make it to the all-star break with this team.
God forbid those selfish, greedy jerks on the field for keeping emperor Sterling and empress Waldman from thier 6:30.
DT
March 29th, 2009 at 4:45 pm
“Fortenberry is an outstanding fielder”
GB – Can we say then that Fortenberry is the anti-Throneberry?
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Marv Throneberry was a great minor league hitter with bigtime power. 30-40 homer hitter and high average. He played with Duran, Kubek and Johnny Blanchard in the minors. Those teams could hit. Blanchard was another annual 30 homer hitter.
Throneberry just couldn’t field at any position, very slow, but, a funny guy. His times with Stengel were classics.
http://twitter.com/bryanhoch
Gardner has the CF job…..
dennis: I have Oklahoma teased out to +17 in a couple small bets and UNC +3 in a couple more, don’t feel great about either team straight up. Gun to my head, I think I’d take UNC -7 though I’d rather they lose outright.
I couldn’t believe there could be only one flight out of Tampa to NYC tonight – so I checked.
http://www.tampaairport.com/flights/index.asp
Only two flights –
one to JFK at 6:32pm (cancelled)
the other to LGA at 6:30pm – delayed until 9:00 pm.
The game could have went 15 innings and they still would have caught their stupid plane.
Congrats to Brett – he’s had an outstanding spring. Now the hard part – keeping the job. I suggest he bunt some more, don’t try to do too much and run, rabbit, run
Melky will make the team – he’s a pretty nice 4OF type to have and if BG stinks it up, he can come in and perhaps be decent until something better comes along
I love all this West Coast -envy- Love for the Heels!
Nick.
Hope the weekend is going well. I like NC -7 however I am pulling for OK so my only play was pounding Lawson OVER 24.5 Pts+assists. Its the only play that stood out to me. I may play something in the 2nd half. Let me know if you hegde in the 2nd half.
GO OK.
-dennis
The best thing about UNC is that they’re not Duke.
ok, I took a teeny OK +7 at the last minute just for fun. Go Sooners.
Go Heels!
I wonder how long before the injury bug gets Gardner, too.
dennis: thanks, it’s been a great sports weekend since the Thursday games. NBA games have been a big help. Playing this game very small to start, don’t like it enough to risk the profits. We’ll see about the 2nd half.
ER just getting ready for the regular season too.
NickSF.
I am even for the weekend. I just had Louisville and the over to give back some green from the last few days. Ouch! My bracket looks like I haven’t watched a game in 3 years.
Good Luck.
It would be great if just once Jose Veras came in and retired the side in order, 1-2-3.
I’m not sure if anyone was on here earlier today when there was a poster named Elizabeth but I was just reading some comments and good god. I feel compelled to bring this up because this is the last straw in a line of just ridiculous things I have read.
First she stated that A-Gon was not a slick fielder even though he was a great fielder and sub for Jeter last year. I personally attended 6 games when he was playing SS and he was great.
Second, She then argued that A-Gon was not traded even though any of you who follow baseball realize that he was traded for Johnny Nunez who was then traded in the deal for Nick Swisher.
There is some ridiculously amateur comments that are posted on this site at times and it would do everyone good if everyone did their research before posting trash.
not a wise decision to pick a one-man team to advance to the final four pete
–hmmm–
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