Spring Game 35: Phillies at Yankees
Posted by: Peter Abraham - Posted in Misc on Apr 01, 2009 
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YANKEES
Jeter SS
Damon LF
Teixeira 1B
Matsui DH
Posada C
Cano 2B
Swisher RF
Ransom 3B
Gardner CF
Pitching today: CC Sabathia.
PHILLIES
Victorino CF
Bruntlett 1B
Rollins SS
Werth RF
Feliz 3B
Cairo 2B
Coste DH
Ellison LF
Ruiz C
Pitching today: Kyle Drabeck.
Notes: The game starts at 1:15 p.m. and there is no television or radio back to New York. … CC will throw 60-70 pitches then rest up for the Orioles when it starts to count on Monday. … The team flies back to New York and will work out at the new Stadium tomorrow. … The Yankees have won seven straight and 16 of their last 18. … A-Rod left his Maybach in the parking lot and the rest of the players plan to paint it orange before they leave. April Fools!
GRAPEFRUIT LEAGUE CHAMPS: The Yankees are 21-10-1 The Braves are 18-11-0 and the Cardinals are 18-11-2. Does that mean the Yankees win the Grapefruit League with a win today? I have no clue. Atlanta plays one more game in Florida tomorrow as do the Cardinals. If this concerns you, you have too much time on your hands.
Back with more later. But not a whole lot more as I have a flight to catch.
UPDATE, 10:53 a.m.: Nady just got scratched. Just a precaution after he got hit on the left elbow yesterday.
UPDATE, 11:31 a.m.: The following players were added to the roster for the Cubs series:
Doug Bernier
Kevin Cash
Shelley Duncan
Dan Giese
Steven Jackson
Justin Leone
Todd Linden
John Rodriguez
In other news … Mariano Rivera went home early. He’s scheduled to pitch in Friday’s game. … Matsui (stiff neck yesterday) is apparently fine.
UPDATE, 11:55 p.m.: Derek Jeter and David Wright are teaming up for a good cause. This press release from Delta:
New York Mets’ All-Star third baseman David Wright and New York Yankees’ All-Star shortstop Derek Jeter will join Delta Air Lines to announce “Delta’s Jeter/Wright Batting Challenge” on Friday.
As the official airline and proud sponsor of New York’s two beloved baseball teams, Delta is launching the season-long batting challenge to support the players’ foundations. At the conclusion of the regular season, Delta will make a $100,000 donation to the foundation of the player with the highest batting average. Delta will also donate $50,000 to the foundation of the runner up.
Wright will step to the plate for the David Wright Foundation, which provides aid and assistance toward the health, emotional development, and education for children in need in the New York, Tri-State, and Norfolk, VA metro areas. Jeter will bat for his foundation, the Turn 2 Foundation, which creates and supports signature programs and activities that motivate young people to turn away from drugs and alcohol and “Turn 2″ healthy lifestyles.
UPDATE, 12:22 p.m.: Not that there was much of a question about it, but Joe Girardi said this morning that Derek Jeter would hit first and Johnny Damon second when the regular season started.
UPDATE, 1:03 p.m.: In an emotional on-field ceremony, Mark Feinsand of The Daily News just presented Brett Gardner with the James P. Dawson Award, which is given yearly to the best rookie in camp as voted by the beat writers.
Unfortunately there were no speeches.
UPDATE, 1:17 p.m.: We’re underway in sunny Tampa. CC got an out before Bruntlett singled and went to third on a double by Rollins.
UPDATE, 1:22 p.m.: Joba Chamberlain plead guilty to DUI today in Nebraska. He received nine months probation, a $400 fine and lost his driver’s license for 60 days.
UPDATE, 1:29 p.m.: CC got a strikeout and a pop-up to end the inning. Yankees now lead 1-0. Damon’s fly to deep center was dropped by Victorino and he ended up on second. Then Tex singled.
UPDATE, 1:47 p.m.: 1-1 as the Phillies score in the second on a RBI single by Ellison. CC has given up some rockets in this game. But his lone mission today is to remain healthy and air it out a bit.
UPDATE, 2:10 p.m.: CC allowed a jack by Werth. Then Tex came back with a two-run shot. Yankees lead 3-2.
UPDATE, 2:20 p.m.: Sac fly by Swisher, RBI single by Ransom. Yankees beat 5-2. Gardner just hit a bimb to center that Victorino tracked down. CC back out for the fourth inning.
BREAKING NEWS — UPDATE, 2:24 p.m.: The New York Times is reporting that Bob Sheppard has decided to retire. The long-time announcer, who is believed to be 98, announced yesterday that he was not well enough to be at Opening Day.
The Yankees have hired Paul Olden to announced the Cubs games this weekend. No permanent replacement has been named.
UPDATE, 2:33 p.m.: CC is finished in the fourth inning. Yankees lead 5-2.
UPDATE, 2:43 p.m.: Two-run show by Matsui. Yankees lead 7-2. That’ll be it for updates unless something major happens. I need to get my newspaper stories done and catch a plane once the game ends.
UPDATE, 3:10 p.m.: The Yankees are now saying that the Sheppard retirement story is news to them. It’s safe to say the odds are slim that he returns to work regularly. But there has been no official retirement.
Hey we all laughed at the Rays being the Kings of March last year, but we saw where that got em.
River Ave Blues said ARod was suspended for 50 games by Bud Selig. I had a heart attached before the last paragraph that apparently said “April Fools”. I am now speaking to all of you from heaven. Luckily I can see the future and the Yankees will win the WS in 2009
lol, Russ
I was ready to put a bounty on Bud’s head
Thanks for all the great updates this spring Pete!
Ladies and Gentleman your Yankees opening day lineup.
This lineup sucks
There is at leaast mlb radio for anyone interested.
carl -
Safe travels Pete. Looking forward to seeing Friday’s game from Yankee Stadium.
A-Rod should call a press conference admitting to taking steroids for every year of his career, and being the one who stole Jeters glove and blaming it on Ruben Rivera.
If you have MLB Gameday Audio, the game will be available there.
I like repeating Trisha’s posts. D’OH!
Anyone here ditchin’ work tomorrow afternoon to go to workout day? I can’t resist, I gotta be there to check out the joint before Friday night’s game.
it must be nice for pete to leave florida after a month down there. great job pete, this spring was the best yet
For those who have not heard yet. Dallas Mcpherson has been released by the cost-consious Marlins becuase they already have two much depth with major league contracts. He hit .275 with 42 homers in AAA last year. Although some might say his defense is not as good as Ransom, he certainly has more offensive upside. Additionally signing him for the future could be profitable considering his talent. He definitely projects as a great corner outfielder. The yankees could sign him this year and put him in AAA. He could be brought up for infield help, or left until next year and allowed to compete over the LF job. What do you guys think?
wait.. so is the april fools that they will paint arod’s maybach orange, or that you said they would?
Yankees/Cubs need to play in a WS
I read an article by Tim Marchman on cnnsi yesterday going over the MLB clubs. The comment on the Sox was “Boston has absurd depth in Pitching” and the comment on the Yanks was “New York’s roster is gristly and jury rigged”…While he went on to say that this will be a close 3 way race his comments show a bias.
First the Yankee rotation 1-6 has Pettitte as the only old pitcher at 36 while the Sox 1-7(?) as two 40 year olds (one who hasn’t pitched since June) and another injury prone, fat National leaguer.
Plus while Posada, Jeter, Matsui are “long in the tooth” can’t the same be said for Tek, Lowell, Ortiz and Drew? All of those Sox are also coming off their worst seasons or injuries.
The injustice of it all!
“The comment on the Sox was “Boston has absurd depth in Pitching” and the comment on the Yanks was “New York’s roster is gristly and jury rigged”
I may frame that
Yeah Pete, kd is right. You did a great job from Florida, as always. I think it is important to let you know that your work is really appreciated. You go the extra mile to get us info — the Joba questions etc. It’s just great!
Thank you!
Can’t wait for Friday’s game…
I’m a little worried about the weather though.
Dallas Mcpherson is no more of a prospect than Cody Ransom.
If he could hit regularly in the bigs, he’d have a major league job with someone.
All they want from Ransom is to catch the ball while A-Rod is out. They don’t want another DH playing third base.
Ladies and Gentleman your Yankees opening day lineup.
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Yeah if you replace Swish with Nady.
“I like repeating Trisha’s posts. D’OH!”
Feel free to do it anytime! You’re probably the only one here who like’s repeating anything I say!!!
So here’s my dilemma, from the previous thread. I found a perfect ticket, front row bleacher’s, right behind the Y’s bullpen, for Opening Day. Expensive but I expected that. Here’s what’s really bothering me. From stubhub you can’t get a hard ticket. I really wanted the hard ticket for Opening Day at the new Stadium, especially at those prices! Am I being stupid not to get the ticket just for that reason?
The media bias against the Yankees is palpable. Just look at Pedroia winning the MVP last year, which he deserved. But Jeter was less deserving in 2006, while putting up almost similar, if not better numbers, because he didn’t hit enough “Home Runs.” Pedroia hit 17 last year, and Jeter hit 14 in 06. What BS, Jete was robbed.
Sabathia
Wang
Burnett
Pettitte
Chamberlain
Rivera
Bruney
Marte
Coke
Veras
Ramirez
Albielagadhjo
Hughes
Aceves
Kennedy
Tomko
Guiese
Melancon
Dunn
De La Rosa
Kontos
Garcia
Sanchez
yet, Boston has all the pitching depth. ******* priceless.
Boston clearly has overstated what they have this year.
What else is new?
posted in the last thread – improved ump monitoring:
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04.....ref=sports
Nady scratched, a la Pete.
Joba got probation.
forgot McCallister, who may be ready ML ready before the season ends.
“Dallas Mcpherson is no more of a prospect than Cody Ransom.
If he could hit regularly in the bigs, he’d have a major league job with someone.
All they want from Ransom is to catch the ball while A-Rod is out. They don’t want another DH playing third base.”
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Mcpherson is 5 years younger than Ransom and has always been heralded as a future star. He has put up the minor league numbers that diplay his talent, by hitting 42 homers in 400 minor league ABs in 2008 and 17 homers in 200 ml ABs in 2006. We made the mistake of letting carlos pena slip through our fingers and had to pay for it with a huge contract for Tex. Dallas Mcpherson could turn into a very cheap productuve LF as well as cheap power for the bench.
Sabathia
Wang
Burnett
Pettitte
Chamberlain
Rivera
Bruney
Marte
Coke
Veras
Ramirez
Albielagadhjo
Hughes
Aceves
Kennedy
Tomko
Guiese
Melancon
Dunn
De La Rosa
Kontos
Garcia
Sanchez
yet, Boston has all the pitching depth. ******* priceless.
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YOu forgot one major important cog. Kei Igawa!
Who would have believed on February 15th that the final decision to be made before the season started was the utility infielder ?
“YOu forgot one major important cog. Kei Igawa”
i didn’t forget him
forgot to list David Robertson. It is too early
Why so hard on ol’ Kei?
Just because he is a complete failure?
Sabathia
Wang
Burnett
Pettitte
Chamberlain
Rivera
Bruney
Marte
Coke
Veras
Ramirez
Albielagadhjo
Hughes
Aceves
Kennedy
Tomko
Guiese
Robertson
Melancon
Dunn
De La Rosa
Kontos
Garcia
Sanchez
McCallister
unbelievable. Go Sox!
Hopefully this won’t affect Nady going into the season…..whew.
I like being the underdog. I could care less what smediots are thinking.
Hopefully it does so we can play swish all the time
“Why so hard on ol’ Kei?”
I like Kei Igawa. He is a videogamer.
It is his pitching which bothers me
Mcpherson is 5 years younger than Ransom and has always been heralded as a future star. He has put up the minor league numbers that diplay his talent, by hitting 42 homers in 400 minor league ABs in 2008 and 17 homers in 200 ml ABs in 2006. We made the mistake of letting carlos pena slip through our fingers and had to pay for it with a huge contract for Tex. Dallas Mcpherson could turn into a very cheap productuve LF as well as cheap power for the bench.
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Maybe this is a better comparison….
Mcpherson is no more of a prospect than Shelly Duncan.
Both have big power but they have huge holes in their swings and can’t play defense all that well.
He’d have a job in the majors if the Marlins thought he had anything to offer.
“I like being the underdog. I could care less what smediots are thinking”
normally i feel the same. However it reaches a point, where it is flagrant
Our luck has not been in picking up Japanese pitching.
Stick to the Matsui’s of the orient.
Dallas McPherson is another Shelly Duncan. And the Pacific Coast League is a hitter’s league. They had 17 guys hit over 25 HR’s last year. International League where Scranton-Wilkesboro plays had 6.
“Our luck has not been in picking up Japanese pitching”
all i know, Yu Darvish is not the greatest pitcher in the world (which was speculated by media, before the WBC)
Go yanks
“normally i feel the same. However it reaches a point, where it is flagrant?”
Agreed.
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/.....id=4032927
Just downloaded MLB At Bat for the Iphone in anticipation of trying out the audio for today’s game but no dice.
Audio will not be up until the regular season. Foiled Again!
Later on in that Tim Marchman article he talks about how the Mets are his favorite team…the Yankee-”hate” is probably to be expected:
“Once we cross into the National League East, we reach the one area where I part ways with the book. I should first tell you a trade secret, which is that any baseball writer who claims not to have a favorite team is lying, albeit possibly to himself as well as you. This largely has to do with the cult of professionalism; for obscure reasons sportswriters are afraid that the public will think them incapable of being fair and neutral if they admit to rooting interests. The point here is that I grew up in New York City going to games at Shea Stadium, and as such what Las Vegas, PECOTA, common sense and my own eyes tell me is utterly irrelevant. Philadelphia is going to win the division by a game on the last day of the season. I’m certain of it, that’s my pick and I’m sticking to it.”
FYI There is gameday audio from mlb.com according to the schedule
Cha’mone yankees
Sabathia
Wang
Burnett
Pettitte
Chamberlain
Rivera
Bruney
Marte
Coke
Veras
Ramirez
Albaladejo
Hughes
Aceves
Kennedy
Igawa
Tomko
Giese (dfa soon)
Johnson
Robertson
Melancon
Dunn
De La Rosa
Kontos
Garcia
Sanchez
McAllister
Horne
Fixed some spelling and Horne will not be forgotten!!!
McPherson > Ransom > sDuncan
Ladies and Gentlemen, what SHOULD be your opening day lineup…
<3 Russ
“Ladies and Gentlemen, what SHOULD be your opening day lineup…”
Today’s lineup
Snow on Friday in New York
KG — I hate to do it but I have to disagree with you, IMO Horne is going to end up a bust. It’s unfortunate because I liked him, but he can not stay healthy long enough to throw any significant innings.
KG: is Horne pitching yet?
and 34 degrees, highs
“Snow on Friday in New York”
april fool’s, i take it
does the cub series count toward spring training stats?
Chris -
Please quit while you’re ahead. You’re not fooling anyone with the lame April Fools jokes.
Is Kyle related to Doug in any way??
Must be nice to be Mo…dont have to go on road trips in the Spring and get to go home early from Spring.
Our spring record has been very close to our record in April the last few years. Lets hope that continues. I’d like to see a season where we don’t have to begin June by climbing out of a 10 game hole!
I believe Cub games are exhibition and not Spring Training games
Cub series is considered exhibition games. Not part of Spring Training games.
TAMPA, Fla. — The New York Yankees have signed former Yankee slugger Gary Sheffield, who had been released by the Detroit Tigers, to a major league contract. Terms of the deal were not disclosed and its believed that Sheffield was signed to play third base as health issues regarding Alex Rodriguez injured hip has the Yankees concerned and looking for a replacement shall A-Rod not return to full health this season.
http://mlb.mlb.com/news/articl.....8;c_id=mlb
OMFG.
Peter: the daily news had yesterday an article how the yankess are rolling with out arod, do you think its true or its just the news trying to make something out of nothing?
Gayle -
Them’s the perks of being the best closer of all time. No spring road trips needed!
“TAMPA, Fla.—The New York Yankees have signed former Yankee slugger Gary Sheffield, who had been released by the Detroit Tigers, to a major league contract. Terms of the deal were not disclosed and its believed that Sheffield was signed to play third base as health issues regarding Alex Rodriguez injured hip has the Yankees concerned and looking for a replacement shall A-Rod not return to full health this season”
yeah right
‘Cub series is considered exhibition games. Not part of Spring Training games.’
Thanks! Not that it matters or anything but I was just curious.
daily news has a good article on Burnett giving advice to Joba…worth a look
CJennings said he[Horne] pitched a simulated game last week probably friday and will get ~2 innings today after Hughes.
He is still depth that could possibly see the majors. you could comp him to a young Florida AJ burnett with less control, less velocity and a slider and curve, alot more 2seamers
someone else…I had heard the Yanks signed Jesus to play 3rd base…honestly just as likely but good try anyway with the April fools…
BTW April fools are people who make bad jokes on the 1st of April
April Fools, the Yankees would never re-sign that fool Gary Sheffield.
Is there somewhere I could find the combined ages of MLB 25 man rosters so I don’t have to do the math?
It looks like old friend Miguel Cairo will make the Phillies roster as a utility INF.
jen, fool is correct.
Uncle, I know that there is somewhere that gives you the average age. The question is – where? Let me see if I can find it.
I’m going to guess David Wright wins…
hokiehill, thanks for the daily news article. it’s good to see that aj actually has matured and that he’s helping joba. if we could consistently get 7 innings out of joba, this team is going to be sick
gayle, are you still here?
” The yankees could sign him this year and put him in AAA. ”
i’m afraid they can’t. if they could, the Marlins would do that.
but he is out of options.
Thanks Trisha
Average that’s what I want.
“Is Kyle related to Doug in any way?”
Doug is Kyle’s dad.
I like this lineup with Swisher at 7 instead of Nady.
Uncle – the wonders of good Googling!
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/stats/rosters
Uncle, http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/stats/rosters
Ceptin something doesn’t seem right since I would have expected Tampa to come in at the youngest, or certainly younger than the Yanks!
Tom / Trish thanks
I wanted to to how the Yanks compared to the rest – especially the sox.
“Uncle, http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/stats/rosters”
These aren’t 25 man roster numbers though.
Help here. This isn’t the most important thing in your life I’m sure, but still I’d like some opinions. If you had the choice of sitting in the first row of the bleachers right behind the Yankee bullpen or 5 rows from the field behind home plate, but behind that netting, which would you take? I guess I am only asking because I have sat behind home plate before and really hated being bhind the net. I loved sitting in the bleachers however.
Just curious as to how others would do it. I’m thinking most would think it was a no brainer and would sit behind home plate.
Thanks.
If Joba really is listening to AJ about limiting pitches and not trying to over throw, you have to give Joba credit. I’m sure AJ has been told the same thing his whole career but just started listening recently.
Uncle, I remember one season when the Yankees had the oldest roster in the majors.
TRisha – all other things being equal (like price)- I’d take behind the plate net or no. But would be happy to sit in the bleachers too.
FWIW I think the best seat in the house is first row upper deck behind plate – not field level.
http://mlb.mlb.com/news/articl.....Id=rss_nyy
there’s also a cool article on the final touches of the new stadium on MLB’s home page.
Now i’ll get back to work. And by work, I mean lunch!
Rishi who is far less lazy than I apparantly already provided the link!
I hate the netting too, but five rows is VERY close, especially in the new stadium.
trish yes I am why??
Not to be a blog pimp or anything, but here’s someone who thinks Jeter is still great at SS.
http://claybuchholzloveslaptop.....lo_31.html
Trisha…I’ve never sat behind home plate in NY but I have the fortune of having seats behind the plate for Yankees at Baltimore…I’ve also sat in the bleachers in the old Yankee Stadium. From a game watching perspective I would say the seats behind the plate are my preference, but for an atmosphere and fans around you I would say that the bleachers are the way to go…I guess it just depends on which is more important for you.
Uncle, my problem is that I have acrophobia. I thought I’d use the technical name since it sounds more impressive than saying I’m afraid of heights, which makes me sound like a real weenie!
I couldn’t sit in the tier reserved section last season but didn’t realize it until I got to the game. Luckily I found a guy who switched off with me – he had a bleacher seat. So I am pretty much screwed now when I go to games. I need to sit down low.
By the way, though, the seat behind home plate is considerably more expensive than the bleacher seat. If it weren’t behind the net and was 5 rows from the field in the same area, I would definitely go for that one. (I’m claustrophobic too and so maybe feel too closed in behind the net.)
Uncle, I remember one season when the Yankees had the oldest roster in the majors.
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It was last season. I believe Al Leiter mentioned it on MLB Network the other day.
gayle, trying to get a ticket for opening day and wanted your opinion since I know you love the bleachers.
“Uncle, I remember one season when the Yankees had the oldest roster in the majors.”
Still might Trisha. Average age of the 25 man roster (I used Pena as the 25th man) is 29.84.
Hokiehill – but you have the time to provide a description of where the link takes you
i’m trying to hit a deadline and procrastinate at the same time.
OH YEAH! It’s time guys!
You know every time I see Derek Jeter involved in another great event like Pete mentioned or the website he was on GMA to promote yesterday that he is doing with young athletes and parents etc you really do have to question how messed up AROD is.
Arod should be the one doing some of these things yet with all his multiplicity of handlers he gets it wrong all the time or cant get in on some of these things while Jeter has just one person Casey Close at CAA manages to be in on everything and all the right things. Yes there are times when he mis-steps but you could count it on one hand.
I know this topic has been discussed to death but I really hope one day (and I hope it is not too late in the day) Arod finally goes with the less is more perspective.
Trisha,
Don’t worry, the new stadium shouldn’t have any spiders.
Well for opening day my opinion is to just get in the building no matter where you sit. It will be a once in a lifetime event and just to be in the building you will be happy.
What are you options??
Hokie, I sat in the bleachers for the first time in my life, last season, for the last game at the Stadium. I always wanted to sit there to see what it was like and ended up there only because I was desperate (see previous post). I absolutely loved it. I was in the first row of the bleachers, right behind the Ys dugout. I always thought I would hate it because it seemed so far from home plate, but oddly enough I thought I got a much better perspective of the whole game since I could see from behind the pitcher. I always wanted to be close to the field on either the 1B or 3B line but know those seats are astronomically expensive, at least for me they are. This seat behind the net I could do as a one-time thing, (buy is selling it at face value) but again, I can’t stand being closed in.
Thanks for the help though gang.
Take the bleacher seats!
use saved money for another game -
those seats aren’t worth it.
You can’t compare Yanks/Sox ages when Tek and Lowell look like extras from “Cocoon 3: Back to the Bayou”
I know this topic has been discussed to death but I really hope one day (and I hope it is not too late in the day) Arod finally goes with the less is more perspective.
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I hope so too.
Clay!
He he he. I have no fear of spiders, bugs or any other crawly thing – cept snakes.
Gayle – 1st row of the bleachers behind the Yankee dugout. 5 rows from the field but behind the net, which I hate.
Gameday showing the game is on MLBN and audio is on mlb.com.
I don’t know how I missed this. It’s a good breakdown, but Ian Browne predicts that we’ll finish third in the division:
http://mlb.mlb.com/news/articl.....8;c_id=mlb
Who do you think will do better? The Rays or the Sox?
How much older the Yankees are than Boston and how Boston has homegrown their team and the Yankees have bought theirs are 2 of the biggest myths perpetrated by the media. I’d love to see some of the experts do the math publicly to prove how wrong they are.
Uncle, thanks. For every reason I think that’s exactly what I’ll do. And Gayle is right – get into the building. That’s the happiness.
And with the money saved I betcha there will be some obscure day game where someone will sell their seats close to the field and I will be able to afford it. I knew that I was going to take a bath on Opening Day, no matter what.
Trisha- where are you buying your tics from?
“I don’t know how I missed this. It’s a good breakdown, but Ian Browne predicts that we’ll finish third in the division:”
I’ve never even heard of the guy but upon reading it, it sounds just like any other fluff piece about the Sux. Let these morons talk and predict all they like they will just look stupid when this team has the best pitching in the game this year.
The Yankees game is supposed to be on MLB NETWORK according the schedule on the Yankee website.
When the Yankees come in 3rd place this year. No one’s going to remember that they won the Grapefruit League way back springtime!
Ya Grapefruit!
Uncle,
I agree with you about the upper deck. I had Saturday seats in the upper deck behind home plate (about 5 rows back). It was a great view.
Trisha-
Well if these are for opening day and the cost is not an issue I would take behind home plate for no other reason than being able to see up close the team come out for opening day intros as well as seeing all the pomp and circumstance up close for opening ceremonies.
The netting has never bothered me as when I grew up going to Phillies games we were always behind the net so that is how I always watched games but if it really bothers you and will take away from your enjoying the game go for the bleachers although will you be in one of the rows where you can see the other side of the field??
Either way like I said earlier being in the building is all that matters really.
Pat
So Manny, Papi, Damon, Schilling, Beckett, Pedro et. al.
were not Red Sox farm hands?
I was led to believe they were.
eric, the ticket behind home plate is on eBay. The bleacher seats are on stubhub. The eBay auction is supposed to end in about 4 hours and the guy doesn’t have any takers yet. Maybe he’d sell it for less.
m,
I think the Rays take a 2 steps back this year. They finish third. I think they lucked out with minimal injuries last year and everyone was clicking on all cylinders. Plus we will take over as the PRE SEASON CHAMPS TITLE this year. Which everybody knows in turn wins us the regular season title.
Yanks
Sox
Rays
O’S
Jays
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/.....id=4030641
In an ironic piece, Father Time doing a piece on the youth trend in baseball.
It’s okay, until he gets to the last paragraph. Remind me who signed Tazawa? And is he trying to say that Tazawa will have the same success? And did he fail to mention that the Yankees honored the gentlemen’s agreement? ARGH!!!!
Clay last year I had seats 10 rows from top behind plate and still loved them.
I suffer from luposlipophobia. That’s why I always wear shoe’s in the kitchen…
Uncle
I know it’s hard to believe but they weren’t unless rehab appearances in Pawtucket count as coming up through the farm system.
The Yankees game is supposed to be on MLB NETWORK
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Probably is then. Just not in NY.
Gayle, it’s either 201 or 202, I forget which.
http://www.stubhub.com/new-yor.....top_ten_hp
What do you think?
Sadly, I think the net would be such a distraction to me that it would take away from my enjoyment of the game – either that or flip me out and they’d need to take me away! I can’t go inside MRI machines either, not that they’re exactly the same thing of course.
Average age of Boston’s 25 man = 29.64 to the Yankees 29.84
Boston has 12 players 30 or older. Yankees have 11.
mlbtraderumors has a good piece on the Yankee’s offseason:
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/.....nkees.html
It’s actually Kyle “Drabek” pitching for the Phillies, assuming you have that right PA. He’s Doug Drabek’s son.
Pat so who were Sox grown on the 2004 team
Varitek and Papelbon?
Nixon?
So Manny, Papi, Damon, Schilling, Beckett, Pedro et. al.
were not Red Sox farm hands?
I was led to believe they were.
____
Dont forget jd drew, dice k, okajima, lowell, cora, lugo, penny, smoltz, bay…
i like this game.
By good I guess I mean favorable, they actually look at who joined, who left and how they are projected to play this season.
“I suffer from luposlipophobia. That’s why I always wear shoe’s in the kitchen…”
When I tried to sit in tier reserved last season I actually had to be escorted down like I was 80 years old or something. It was really awful.
SoS,
Agreed. I believe in the law of averages, and the Rays will gravitate back to their mean.
The Sox? They have tons of ???, but they almost always escape unscathed.
back *toward* their mean.
Uncle, Tek came to the sox in a trade with the Mariners…
Enjoy the game all and catch you later.
Thanks for the help. Nothing like Yankee brothers and sisters to help you get through life in style…
Anybody see the viseo of Manny playing cricket?
Papelbon was not there yet in 2004 -my bad
But NOMAR was – for part of it – he counts
Based on the 3d seat selector either 201 or 202 as long as you are in lower rows look fine
So in 2004 the sox had no legit farmhands on their squad when they won?
Nice piece on info to have.
The next time we see CC on the mound after today will be opening day-Yipee!!!!!!!
“The Sox? They have tons of ???”
Mileage?
So does gammons think Tazawa will be better than the best bullpen pitcher ever? I mean that title was given to Craig Hansen a couple years back. Your only the best while your a Sox.
“So in 2004 the sox had no legit farmhands on their squad when they won?”
The only farm player they had was Trot Nixon.
I think Nomar was it.
Nomar was out by 04 though no?
Trot was there.
By my count I’ve only got Nixon and Youkilis as 2004 RS brough up through the system. Am I missing anyone? I hope Mr. Gammons never forgets that.
http://www.baseball-reference......2004.shtml
Based on the 3d seat selector either 201 or 202 as long as you are in lower rows look fine
____
This better be true. I paid a lot of money for opening weekend for a seat in the 2nd row in 202…
Questions. Those are “question” marks.
“Anybody see the viseo of Manny playing cricket?”
Havnt seen it but i think the ideal player that would dominate that sport would be Ichiro. He will hit a bouncing pitch for a base hit. Speaking of Ichiro. Why does he have his first name on his jersey? He also had it in the WBC. It just reminds me of the xfl. Next you will see he hate me on back of a jersey.
Uncle
I think Trot Nixon is the only one.
Pete,
Please explain? Was it really emotional? Who was emotional?
Youkilis played one game in the post season but he counts technically.
For the purposes or arguing with a SOX fan it’s just NIXON.
I don’t think he was being serious with the “emotional” part
SoS,
That bothers me. Everytime I see “NENE”, I think, “Why can’t #24 just have “KOBE”?”
And I still can’t figure out if Yao is his first or last name. I know that “Ming” is a last name, but who knows?
Rishi,
I thought that at first, but then I thought about the long, tough journey Gardner’s been on.
All the magic moments George M. Steinbrenner field has seen!
m,
I can think of many names to put on Bryants jersey. Wont get into it for our friendship sake.
Never noticed that Yao doesnt have Ming on his jersey.
2 on 1 out. Men on 3rd and 2nd.
SoS,
Whatever.
quick, not so good start
gameday please
http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/gameday.....b_nyamlb_1
The one guy I think of that wouldnt mind putting his first name instead would be Mienkusoiuouitz.
Can you think of any others? Any sport?
gameday is updating at the half inning
Sabathia with the K. 2 outs.
“SoS,
Whatever.”
mel, BFF?
thank you, so much, carl for the updates…
3 outs
SoS,
Fine. Just stop hating on people you don’t even know.
Re: the first name on jerseys.
It’s a cultural thing with the Asian athletes. I had a lengthy discussion about this with a Chinese coworker. Something about how in Asian countries, the primary identifier is the first name, and the last names are pretty common… hence the old chinese phonebook joke.
Whew! Lucky thing Brett Meyers didn’t come up!
Jeter ground out 1 out
Damon with a double
trisha…also for what it’s worth I am going to make it to one Yankees game in New York this year (vs the Red Sox no less) and I chose to sit in the bleachers…section 236 on the front row.
Error on Victorino
Base hit tex 1-0 yankees
“Joba Chamberlain plead guilty to DUI today in Nebraska. He received nine months probation, a $400 fine and lost his driver’s license for 60 days.”
Hopefully the Yankees watch him very closely and I hope he avoids doing something so stupid again, pay attention Joba, guys who have deal with drinking issues in their careers tend to run into lots of problems, don’t want to go down that path as a pro.
Fine mel. Stop falling in love with players and think they cant do no wrong, that you dont know. Im glad we had this discussion.
My Spurs dont look so hott.
Vin,
Makes sense.
Matsui out at first Tex to 2nd. 2 out.
Trisha – It’s really too bad you have a fear of heights – our seats last year were in the front section of the upper level directly behind home plate and they were great — with no nets. We are now on the “Terrace” level – in the appropriately named Jim Beam Suite — but slightly left of home plate. Will be there for Saturday’s game (and on opening day) and am very hopeful they are just as good. Just really really excited for the new place and the new season.
Posada out on a fly ball 3 outs.
“Yankees now lead 1-0. Damon’s fly to deep center was dropped by Victorino and he ended up on second. Then Tex singled.”
Anyone get the feeling that the combination of Teixeira and Rodriguez will be absolutely lethal when Arod returns.
Few of the prognosticators out there seem to even mention this combo as being one of the best in baseball for a long time. I guess all the Arod circus has engulfed folks to talk about only that, but unless Arod forgot how to hit, then I must be missing something. Cannot wait for that combo to be back to back, twa I spit on Ortiz and Ramirez.
SoS,
I don’t think he can do no wrong. It’s just time to move on. I guess it’s easier for a Laker fan to do that than a Spurz fan.
Spurs will be okay. But they’re not in the #2 spot anymore. Not that it means anything.
Did you hear that Stern is looking at using the developmental league format? Where the top teams get to choose their first round opponents? Who do you think the Lakers and Spurs would choose?
Has anyone read this?
http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/s.....k?MSNHPHMA
Clearly Rosenthal gets paid by article.
Joe Torre on with Francesa now.
Trevor when is Mike going to realize that Joe is no longer the manager of the Yankees and that no one really cares about the Dodgers in NYC
Sabathia walks Cairo
Cal,
The prognosticators seem to be giddy in hoping for Arod to become the present version of the 2003-2005 Giambi, now that he has admitted to steroid use.
I think Girardi should tell Tex to save some of those hits for the first couple months of the season. Being that he usually starts off slow. I think he’s blended in pretty smoothly this year. Maybe the Arod fiasco took all the pressure off the new guys. Looking forward to seeing a real first baseman out there for a change.
“vin
April 1st, 2009 at 1:36 pm
Has anyone read this?
http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/s.....k?MSNHPHMA
Clearly Rosenthal gets paid by article.”
Vin don’t even waste your time and play that clown’s game, he is catering to the least common denominators and trying to rile things up, any rational person can see right through it.
I just don’t feel the same way about Torre anymore..
why is joe on w/ mike? joe sounds lonely for NY. needs the attention only Ny can give. yet he always complained about the redsox and met sweries hhoopla
Ground out 1 out.
did anyone hear cash say ransom was a better 3B than arod yesterday?
“Joe Torre on with Francesa now.”
Who,
, Ah Sleepy Joe still schmoozing the NY media I see, Short of murdering a baby Joe will have all the media eating from his palm.
Single up the middle Cairo scores 1-1. Might have hit Sabathia.
Sabathia is ok!
Wow, Vin.
That’s low-brow, even for a fool.
Rosenthal’s usually a standup guy, but to make up injuries for players? To plant seeds of doubt in guys like Bruney?
I can handle a lot of stuff, good-natured or not. But that was pure rubbish. 500 words worth of crap.
So not funny.
uh – not the best “tune up” game, is it
“did anyone hear cash say ransom was a better 3B than arod yesterday?”
Yes.
m,
I dont think the Lakers would change from playing the soft Mavs. I can see the Mavs being blown up after the year.
Spurs would love to play the Suns thats for sure. Being that they arent going to make it. I would have to go with believe it or not the Nuggets. They have had good success in the playoffs against them.
Teams i dont want to face are Rockets and Jazz.
dodgers got orlando hudson? is sheff far behind?
Sabathia K’s Ruiz 2 outs.
I agree who cares about Joe. Why is he calling into a NY radio show? Should he be getting his team, um the Dodgers ready for the season. You know it does start soon.
“I can handle a lot of stuff, good-natured or not. But that was pure rubbish. 500 words worth of crap.”
Exactly. I’m not usually one to play their game, but I really found that piece tasteless. Funny how I’ve never seen one of those smear jobs about that team in New England… just saying.
“Mark in Tampa
Cal,
The prognosticators seem to be giddy in hoping for Arod to become the present version of the 2003-2005 Giambi, now that he has admitted to steroid use.”
Very true, personally I feel Arod will be on a personal mission, this whole offseason experience, brought on by his own choices and actions might I add, may serve to toughen him and understand that no matter who or what you are not everyone will like you or root for you or treat you with respect.
vin,
Skimming the comments, there’s a lot of “relax, it’s just a joke”. Well, where’s the one for the Cubs? For the Red Sox? Is it “cool” to pick on the Yanks. Hopefully, we’ll have the last laugh.
No one in LA wants to talk to Torre because he won’t have clubhouse info to spill since no one will say anything in front of him anymore.
We are comfortably winning the division. Write it down.
Rosenthal just stirring it up. It’s purely guessing and these kinds of articles get visitors. If he writes that the Royals will be a circus, he gets less hits.
Remember, in the TV/talk radio media, the Yankees play the part of a villain to push rating.
it seems like steroid guys never come back to form after they “stop” using. become dependent on them.
The opening day opposing pitcher is getting plastered by the Marlins.
maybe joe and mike can have a weekly show here. or a daily. this interview is way too long. theyre on manny now .
Cano down on strikes 1 out.
Peter Gammons is not even trying to hide his Red Sox love anymore…I know he didn’t say this but it’s in his article…
“Of course CC Sabathia will be a major contributor to the Yankees this season, but one NL scout said, “for the $158 million difference, [22-year-old] Junichi Tazawa might have been the most important long-term signing of this offseason. Seven years from now, Tazawa will be 29, have four prime years of his career performed for less than one year for Sabathia. CC will be 36 [in 2016].”
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/.....id=4030641
Swisher ground rule double
Why post that article with out a synopisis.
I never would have clicked on it and given the site a hit if i had a clue what it was about.
Rosenthal to me has always been a +hack.
“it seems like steroid guys never come back to form after they “stop” using. become dependent on them.”
I would agree with you if we were talking about Brady Anderson. Arod was just as good before he injected as he was during. He will go on a tear this year and prove to people that he can produce without it.
Who leads the team this year in homers?
Arod or Tex?
Isnt Tazawa the dude who never played a professional game?
vs. a CY Young Winner?
“Rosenthal just stirring it up. It’s purely guessing and these kinds of articles get visitors. If he writes that the Royals will be a circus, he gets less hits.”
No doubt. I just wonder when it was that he decided to throw his integrity out the window just to get visitors. I’m as capitalistic as anyone, but I’m always interested in looking at successful people and trying to figure out how he/she got there.
“it seems like steroid guys never come back to form after they “stop” using. become dependent on them.”
This is why it may force Arod to realize that it is about the team, not the raw statistics, but the immediate situation presented in front of you and rising to that moment.
Scott Brosious is not a HOF, but we remember him for rising to the moment, Paul O’Neill, Tino Martinez the same thing. When the chips were down these guys stepped up, that should be Arod’s focus not hitting, .330, 48 hr and 120 rbi’s. That would be nice to accomplish but simply helping the team in the key spots is even bigger.
“Has anyone read this?
http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/s.....k?MSNHPHMA
Clearly Rosenthal gets paid by article.”
Lol. That Rosenthal must be bored I can’t wait til real games start and this drivel can relent a bit.
Ransom pops up. 2 outs.
A-Rod will still hit over 30, but im going bold and saying Tex will have 42.
m, I know that article upset you, but it’s just time to move on.
Beckett getting some runs scored on him 3-0
sorry wrong game
Gardner grounds out. 3 outs.
Sheffield at 499 HR’s
is this all a set up. And the sequel to Mr. 3000 ???
“Of course CC Sabathia will be a major contributor to the Yankees this season, but one NL scout said, “for the $158 million difference, [22-year-old] Junichi Tazawa might have been the most important long-term signing of this offseason. Seven years from now, Tazawa will be 29, have four prime years of his career performed for less than one year for Sabathia. CC will be 36 [in 2016].”
If the Yankees had signed this guy, there would have been all kinds of articles about how the Yankees infuriated the Japanese leagues by signing 1 of their top amateur players, thus breaking the ‘moral clause’ about American teams signing Japanese amateur players and what a disaster it could be in leading to Japanese teams to do the same. But becuase the Red Sox did it, there wasn’t a bad word said about it.
lol vinny.
JOJO
Gammons is more of a homer than Scooter ever was. He should just take off the tie, open the buttoned shirt to reveal his “I love Theo” t-Shirt underneath.
Seriously, he’s a disgrace.
What is with the stupid hate for Joe Torre by some of you people?
At this point in spring training, players don’t report to the park until an hour or two before the games. Torre is probably in his office, so he returned a call from Francesa for a few minutes. Mike has supported Joe’s charity for years and Torre has done the same for Mike.
So Joe calls into his radio show and people slam him for that? That makes a lot of sense. Move on, leave the guy alone.
Boring game
JImmy down on strikes
“it seems like steroid guys never come back to form after they “stop” using. become dependent on them.”
Unless you believe Alex was using until they rolled him into surgery 3 weeks ago, he would seem to dispute that.
Jason Werth Homerun
Pete, some of us feel Torre shoudnt have written his book so soon. We can disagree with your opinion. Some of us also choose to support alex instead of attacking everything he does or doesnt do, since he is finishing his career with us, we see no need to constantly attack him, since it accomplishes nothing.
I believe the t-shirt would read “The idiots”.
Good point John. It reminds me of the Igawa signing. Everyone said we over paid and that Boston got a heck of a deal with Dice. Even though they out bid any team by quite a bit.
its not about hate for joe. it just seems odd for joe to be on at this very moment in time. in the end he called to plug anyway.
Attacking A-Rod is fine. Torre is off limits!!!! Cairo down on strikes. 3 outs
“Of course CC Sabathia will be a major contributor to the Yankees this season, but one NL scout said, “for the $158 million difference, [22-year-old] Junichi Tazawa might have been the most important long-term signing of this offseason. Seven years from now, Tazawa will be 29, have four prime years of his career performed for less than one year for Sabathia. CC will be 36 [in 2016].”
W.T.F 2016 are u kidding me, I realize the article was about youth but Gammons is really digging deep to encapsulate such commentaries, I always love the ubiquitous one GM said, one scout said, one source said, blah, blah, blah, did that source also say that we will have Joba Chamberlain and Phil Hughes who are 23 and 22 respectively, why can’t they be winning CY Youngs in their prime years as well as this “Tazawa”
Funny how they pick and choose how they analyze things to present. that is what happens when you scrape the bottom of the barrel. CC is in his prime now if the Yankees succeed with him 2016 will be important because that will stop them from spending or being able to add to the staff.
Whenever Peter posts a comment why do I always feel like we’ve just be reprimanded by God?
JOJO
Gammons is more of a homer than Scooter ever was. He should just take off the tie, open the buttoned shirt to reveal his “I love Theo” t-Shirt underneath.
Seriously, he’s a disgrace.
If I have to hear about Manny Delcarmen from Gammons one more time, You would think Delcarmen is the next coming of Sandy Koulfax and CY Young, every baseball report Gammons brings him up when talking about the Skunks.
sos
for one thing how do we know if and when alex stopped using?
and for alex to rise to the occasion he would have to grow up 1st. not like flicking the light switch on and off.
2016? We could be going for #32 or #33 then.
I have written that I disagree with his doing that book. I think he was wrong.
But to suggest he shouldn’t go on a radio show on some random Wednesday is just stupid.
“Of course CC Sabathia will be a major contributor to the Yankees this season, but one NL scout said, “for the $158 million difference, [22-year-old] Junichi Tazawa might have been the most important long-term signing of this offseason. Seven years from now, Tazawa will be 29, have four prime years of his career performed for less than one year for Sabathia. CC will be 36″
to quote Colonel Sanders in the movie Waterboy: “Wow”
always liked Peter Gammons. However, he is making it increasingly difficult.
on the upside, Gingko is said to help with dementia/Alzheimers
haha JOJO. Pete is the voice above us and it his site. It does seem that way though lol.
I personally didn’t say get off our radio, but i am pointing out why others do feel he should stay in LA’s market.
Pete, us natives are getting restless. We need real baseball so we can stop obsessing about stupid things like the media (no offense).
“What is with the stupid hate for Joe Torre by some of you people?
At this point in spring training, players don’t report to the park until an hour or two before the games. Torre is probably in his office, so he returned a call from Francesa for a few minutes. Mike has supported Joe’s charity for years and Torre has done the same for Mike.
So Joe calls into his radio show and people slam him for that? That makes a lot of sense. Move on, leave the guy alone.”
Because he backstabbed the Yankees and ratted on his players who he didn’t feel chummy with all to either get back at the Yankees or make some extracoins, when George brought him here he was a nothing in the management game. Whatever happened to common decency and taking the high road.
Besides Pete I know you aren’t lecturing fans on Joe Torre when you find every second to take jabs at Arod and make fun of whatever situation arises about him, so your views aren’t exactly always the moniker of upstanding taste and restraint when it comes to Arod.
2 run home run tex
Pete:
what do you think of Peter Gammon’s latest gem ?
I understand it is an opinion. However, comparing CC Sabathia to an unkown japanese pitcher who has yet to throw a pitch ?
if joe comes on once during the season wouldn;t that seem odd?
“Of course CC Sabathia will be a major contributor to the Yankees this season, but one NL scout said, “for the $158 million difference, [22-year-old] Junichi Tazawa might have been the most important long-term signing of this offseason. Seven years from now, Tazawa will be 29, have four prime years of his career performed for less than one year for Sabathia. CC will be 36 [in 2016].”
Oh Brother. Gammons isn’t even trying to hide his homerism and bitterness anymore. Tazawa is another Igawa low 90′s fastball, high delivery, and rumored good breaking stuff. But heck we heard the same things about Igawa and he stinks. I just can’t imagine how a respected journalist can go on the record with that stuff. Seriously a 22 year old Japanese prospect is better than a Cy Young award winner?
“If I have to hear about Manny Delcarmen from Gammons one more time, You would think Delcarmen is the next coming of Sandy Koulfax and CY Young, every baseball report Gammons brings him up when talking about the Skunks.”
LOL, I thought I was the only one who noticed that.
some one posted earlier that they’re going to serve beer in the bleachers…was that an april fools?
looks like Tex is ready for the season
Gang:
You could always stop reading Gammons, no?
My questioning Torre being on WFAN was not a slight against Torre but rather a slight against Francesa. If I were Torre and got a call to be on the biggest sports radio show in NYC I would do it in a heartbeat.
If I were the producer of the a New York centric sports radio show I would question the relevance that Torre has in the market for a team that the Mets play only 2 times a year one at home and one away series. That was my only point.
“If the Yankees had signed this guy, there would have been all kinds of articles about how the Yankees infuriated the Japanese leagues by signing 1 of their top amateur players, thus breaking the ‘moral clause’ about American teams signing Japanese amateur players and what a disaster it could be in leading to Japanese teams to do the same. But becuase the Red Sox did it, there wasn’t a bad word said about it.”
I think we know how it works by now, from those Bahstan fanboys. Ever since the Yankees signed Tex its like Olney, Gammons, etc became more neurotic. Especially when they all had him going to Chowder land and got slapped down.
The looks on their faces that day was classic and sweet, now they are reduced to minimizing his impact and claiming, oh, well it was for the better because the Sox would have had to move Lowell and Youkahead.
As I wrote, I thought the Red Sox were wrong to ignore the unwritten rules and sign Tazawa. Had the Yankees done that, they would have been ripped.
Comparing him to CC is like comparing me to Hemingway.
Pete
Not the first and won’t be the last stupid thing posted here but you do seem to take umbrage when they are Torre related.
“You could always stop reading Gammons, no”
someone posted it. It’s not like we bookmark/check his blog
Good for him:
KARSTENS EARNS SPOT IN PIRATES ROTATION (11:20 a.m. ET)
Right-hander Jeff Karstens has won the final spot in the Pittsburgh Pirates’ starting rotation.
Karstens locked up the job Wednesday, when the team optioned right-hander Virgil Vasquez to Triple-A Indianapolis. That ended a five-week spring training battle in which neither pitcher dominated.
Karstens pitched in seven games, including three starts. He went 0-2 with a 6.17 ERA and allowed 30 hits and eight walks in 23 1/3 innings.
Bases loaded for my Man Swish.
Yankee 2009 Defensive evaluation…pretty interesting stuff:
http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb.....id=4018495
“Damon’s fly to deep center was dropped by Victorino and he ended up on second. ”
There seems to be a lot of OF errors this spring. Is it the wind, the sun, or the rustiness – or am I mistaken?
Joltin Joe,
I would have to trust the WBC drug testing that he’s been clean since. He’s participated in it twice now. He is the most gifted athlete in all of baseball and with all the drama he had last year (divorce) he still produced. A down year for Alex is equal to other players career year. Keep in mind im not much of an Arod fan. But I can appreciate his talents.
who ever compared you to hemingway,pete? now that is stupid.
http://vault.sportsillustrated...../index.htm
Great story on CC sorry if posted already.
“2016? We could be going for #32 or #33 then.”
LOL, tell me about it.
TEXXXXXXXXXXX
“Comparing him to CC is like comparing me to Hemingway.”
That made me laugh. If it’s any consolation, if Hemingway had a blog, I’d still spend more time reading yours than his. That is unless he started covering the Yanks. lol
sos
you dont think arod is not on hgh, the undetectable?
Swisher Sac fly. 4-2 yanks
when it is possible to calculate the number of times Mike Francessa uses the word “I” on his show. Then, man will receive all knowledge of this life.
Cody singles. 5-2 yanks.
Tazawa please take lessons from Igawa. Get rich and do nothing!
Gardner out on a fly ball. 3 outs.
Before talking to Heyman yesterday I didn’t hear one time Francesa was worried about the Yankees age. Now all of a sudden he’s worried about it.
mike just declared the winner of american idol, what isnt this guy an expert on?
bimb
im guessing bimb means bomb?
mike just declared the winner of american idol, what isnt this guy an expert on?
___
Who did he pick?
hahaha
lambert
I’m proud to say that I’ve never once seen American Idol.
Don’t quite get the appeal.
“I would have to trust the WBC drug testing that he’s been clean since. He’s participated in it twice now. He is the most gifted athlete in all of baseball and with all the drama he had last year (divorce) he still produced. A down year for Alex is equal to other players career year. Keep in mind im not much of an Arod fan. But I can appreciate his talents.”
Same here in my opinion. I’m by no means an Alex fanboy and what he did with the steroids will gave no meaning to any homerun records he may set, just another reason why his goals now have to be team oriented, success as a team equals success for him.
cal
this would assume alex has matured. that is a reach.
Odd report. Devil Rays send Adam Kennedy to the minors. He’d be the best utility option around, if he had some 3rd base experience since the minors.
Sabathia is done for today.
BREAKING NEWS — UPDATE, 2:24 p.m.: The New York Times is reporting that Bob Sheppard has decided to retire. The long-time announcer, who is believed to be 98, announced yesterday that he was not well enough to be at Opening Day.
The Yankees have hired Paul Olden to announced the Cubs games this weekend. No permanent replacement has been named.
Joltin Joe,
I cant say he isnt. But we cant say the pitchers throwing to him arent either. I guess we will never know unless they agree to save blood test till they can detect it. I think iv gotten sick defending Alex and ruined my appetite for lunch. Again im not the biggest fan and its taken alot out of me already. Diet it is.
I’m stunned that Gammons is comparing the CC signing to the potential of this Tazawa guy.
This would be like a NY writer saying that Brackman is a better signing than Beckett and will pay off more long term.
It’s getting to the point where he should no longer be afforded a job to cover the sport in a national sense.
He should strictly just do Red Sox info since his credibility is gone. And he had a lot of credibility folks, I’ve been reading him since high school before ESPN when I’d have to go to Barnes and Noble to get the Boston papers to read him.
He is a puppet for the Red Sox. He is constantly pumping up their prospects to give Theo leverage in trade dealings.
He’s as bad and obvious, if not worse, as Heyman is with Boras.
Does anyone else find it kind of interesting that MLB’s holier-than-thou approach to drug testing the last few years has harmed the sport more than if they had just taken the NFL’s – sweep it under the rug – approach.
hah someone tell Paul Olden Tomma Lasorda will not be in the building.
GB7,
How is going old friend. Need your knowledge. My little boy bought a batman hott wheel yesterday. The old batmobile with adam west and i was wondering if you knew what kind of car that is?
Bob is done
this hurts 
“cal
this would assume alex has matured. that is a reach.”
Very true, maturity is the remaining hope out of all of this with him. When he was speaking to Kay on YES, I got the sense he has begun to realize that, but as you said until he returns and demonstrates what his priorities are as a professional then I’m only guessing that he will make a change. Something tells me though that he will, this experience may very well have been very humbling for him and what he considered to be important in life.
“I’m stunned that Gammons is comparing the CC signing to the potential of this Tazawa guy”
did anyone check the link? It may have been April Fool’s. Seriously
This Biggio debate is fascinating on WFAN
“Odd report. Devil Rays send Adam Kennedy to the minors. He’d be the best utility option around, if he had some 3rd base experience since the minors.”
He’s gone fairly useless as a hitter. Offensively, I’m not sure he’s even as good an option as Ransom is. Didn’t think Kennedy had much of a shot in Tampa with Zobrist and Aybar around. Probably catch on somewhere though.
New stadium, no Bob Sheppard. End of an era.
For people into the stats stuff, Ken Davidoff had someone send him Alex’s VOCR (Value over Cody Ransom). The numbers say 40 days out is equivalent to 2 less wins.
http://weblogs.newsday.com/spo.....on_an.html
Bob Sheppard, a true legend, “the Voice of God” as he was often referred to by Reggie Jackson. Thanks for the memories Bob. Yankees games will never be the same at the Stadium. Still hope he comes back and does 1 final game at the new Stadium.
Francessa to Torre:
“Joe, is it fair to say that if you were still the manager of this team that Joba would be in the bullpen where he clearly belongs?”
“This Biggio debate is fascinating on WFAN”
Should be in IMO.
cal
i hope you are right. i still dont have that much faith in him. he still seems to be sowing his wild oats. is that an expression or did i just make that up?
“Odd report. Devil Rays send Adam Kennedy to the minors. He’d be the best utility option around, if he had some 3rd base experience since the minors.”
He’s gone fairly useless as a hitter. Offensively, I’m not sure he’s even as good an option as Ransom is. Didn’t think Kennedy had much of a shot in Tampa with Zobrist and Aybar around. Probably catch on somewhere though.
Wasn’t Kennedy the guy who hit that long fly ball that Sheffield and Bubba Crosby collided in game 5 in Anaheim in 05 that pretty turned that game around and cost the Yanks that series?
Could be a myth, but Pete’s Hemmingway comment reminded me of the story about Yogi being introduced to the “writer” Ernest Hemmingway.
“Hi ya Ernie. What paper you with?”
Wow, I just read that comment about CC/Tazawa. If I were the team that hired that NL scout and I knew about that comment, I’d fire him on the spot, lol. I’m surprised Gammons doesn’t have 10 foot arms with all the reaching he’s doing. This is why I don’t read most articles about the Yankees – if signing CC is a bad move compared to signing some unknown from Japan, then you know that all objectivity is completely out the window. What is it about the Sox that their stuff doesn’t stink? No matter what they do, everything (per the media) always comes up roses. The nice thing is that it doesn’t matter what these cuckoos think, it only matters what happens on the field.
Tex 3 hits. He is done for today.
“Wasn’t Kennedy the guy who hit that long fly ball that Sheffield and Bubba Crosby collided in game 5 in Anaheim in 05 that pretty turned that game around and cost the Yanks that series?”
i think you’re right.
pat,
Thanks for that. The problem with those kind of stats for me is that we’ll never know ho many games we would win in the first 6 weeks if Alex were playing. You could have a stinker by one of the starters. An error or blown save. Anything.
“I’m stunned that Gammons is comparing the CC signing to the potential of this Tazawa guy.”
The unreal part is that he does it with no sense of doubt about it. I mean Sabathia is a CY Young award winner and he is using some third party comment to draw an assertion about 2016, when nothing in baseball is a given, moreso than any other sport. His credibility went out of the door a long time ago.
Matsui 2 run homer. 7-2 yankees
When I was kid not only did we imitate the batting stances of players like Mickey Rivers, Thurman, Sweet Lou and Roy White we also imitated Bob Sheppard announcing the players.
He will be missed.
S.o.S.
April 1st, 2009 at 2:32 pm
GB7,
How is going old friend. Need your knowledge. My little boy bought a batman hott wheel yesterday. The old batmobile with adam west and i was wondering if you knew what kind of car that is?
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I think it was a George Barris design from a Lincoln, but, not sure.
I really hope the Yanks make a good decision on who (or is it “whom”…i don’t want to piss off the grammar nazi’s) they replace Sheppard with. I mean anybody they get will sound weird after all these years, but if they hired somebody with a voice like Michael Kay I would hate it.
John, is that an April Fool’s joke or did Francesa really say that to Torre?
I don’t care if CC wasn’t that sharp – it only matters that he’s healthy. The guy is a horse – I still can’t get over what he did last year. I don’t think I’ll see that again in my lifetime.
As to Shepphard, he had a long, wonderful run – I wish he could have made it to the new YS, but his only concern should be getting and staying well. Maybe if he feels better, he can make a trip to the Stadium – the Yanks should honor him with a day for what he’s meant to the franchise.
whenever you guys feel like getting agitated over who should be the BACKUP INFIELDER or the LAST MAN IN THE BULLPEN, just close your eyes, read this, and try to imagine life as a Pirate fan:
“KARSTENS EARNS SPOT IN PIRATES ROTATION (11:20 a.m. ET)
Karstens pitched in seven games, including three starts. He went 0-2 with a 6.17 ERA and allowed 30 hits and eight walks in 23 1/3 innings.”
Too lazy to research it, but it seemed like Adam Kennedy always killed the Yanks. Or it could’ve just seemed that way since the Angels always play over the head against NYY.
JohnC:
Yeah, it was Kennedy. 2 run triple in the 2nd inning gave the Halos a 3-2 lead they would never relinquish.
Steve B
April 1st, 2009 at 2:34 pm
“Odd report. Devil Rays send Adam Kennedy to the minors. He’d be the best utility option around, if he had some 3rd base experience since the minors.”
He’s gone fairly useless as a hitter. Offensively, I’m not sure he’s even as good an option as Ransom is. Didn’t think Kennedy had much of a shot in Tampa with Zobrist and Aybar around. Probably catch on somewhere though.
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such an automatic out. He hit .280 last year and is a career .275 hitter…he still steals bases when he needs to and still gets his share of doubles. He had a bad, injury filled 2007….what a dog.
m
That’s why I’m not a stats geek. I took one too many statistics courses in college and realized I could manipulate numbers to prove just about anything I wanted them to prove.
“How is going old friend. Need your knowledge. My little boy bought a batman hott wheel yesterday. The old batmobile with adam west and i was wondering if you knew what kind of car that is?”
SoS: it was actually a Pontiac GTO. I want to say 1967 (before the body change in 1968). Heavily modified, of course
“I’m surprised Gammons doesn’t have 10 foot arms with all the reaching he’s doing”
I heard Harrelson in a Spring game, he said when the inning ended and the White Sox were up 1-0, Good guys 1, bad guys coming to bat. If that is his shtick then damn.
Last year we had Karstens, Ponson, Rasner & Farnsworth in our pitching staff which leaves me 1 question…
HOW THE HELL DID WE WIN 89 GAMES?!?!?!
Here’s a blurb from Verducci in SI’s new issue :
The Yankees, given their spending and age, run counter to the current culture, a product of their hugely successful business model that allows them to charge $425,250 for a pair of premium season tickets and to spend $795.9 million on six free agents over the past two years — almost exactly twice as much money on six players as the Rays have paid every player ever to play for them in the 11-year history of the franchise.
No team has won a pennant in 29 years or a World Series in 54 years with a shortstop as old as Derek Jeter, who turns 35 in June. Closer Mariano Rivera is 39, catcher Jorge Posada is 37, left-hander Andy Pettitte turns 37 in June, outfielder Johnny Damon is 35, DH Hideki Matsui is 35 in June and the post-surgical Rodriguez turns 34 in July. However, by adding pitchers CC Sabathia and A.J. Burnett and keeping their fingers crossed on Joba Chamberlain, the Yankees at last have rebuilt their rotation with power pitchers who can make hitters swing and miss. The Yankees are so loaded that they are carrying a bench player, Nick Swisher, with $22 million owed him over three years. Only poor health should keep the Yankees from winning 95 games.
******What the heck is their (esp. Heyman, who brings it up constantly) obsession with Nick and his contract? When they traded for him, it was to be as a starter………at 1B. That is a very decent contract, and it will prove to be so especially when Swish starts in 2010 and 2011.
I wasn’t planning to read anything in this rag anyway, so nothing Verducci says surprises me. LOL about the age thing. What are they supposed to do? Have Jeter, etc..drink from the fountain of youth so they can become 10 years younger? The organization is building a strong foundation for the future with youth – I know that doesn’t apply so much to this year’s team, but for Verducci to make it sound like they plan for the Yankees is purposely to get older is just asinine.
That is his schtick… good guys = white sox. It gets old very quickly.
That stinks. I hope he’s able to at least attend a game to watch and/or see the new stadium
“I mean anybody they get will sound weird after all these years, but if they hired somebody with a voice like Michael Kay I would hate it.”
Hey don’t give them any ideas, considering Kay seems to be the Jack of all trades at YES and of course master of none.
Pete, just wanted to thank you for the incredible work this Spring…..can’t tell you how great it was to be kept in the loop on everything and get your perspective.
Looking forward to the season – I’m flying in from Cali for Opening Day!!!
Anyway, thanks again for everything.
Chris
Al, I don’t want to click on the Rosenthal piece – what did he say? That CC, Tex and AJ will fall apart in NY? Oy, how I want the Yankees to shut everyone up.
“such an automatic out. He hit .280 last year and is a career .275 hitter…he still steals bases when he needs to and still gets his share of doubles. He had a bad, injury filled 2007….what a dog.”
His OBP is weak. His slugging is weak. He doesn’t steal much anymore and was an average fielder on his best day. Plus all he can play is 2nd.
Wow! Love yah Shepp. I hope you’re okay.
On a different note, the Marlins released Dallas McPherson. I really hope Ca$hman jumps on him. He’s got a power lefty bat perfect for Yankee stadium. He could start in place of Arod and put Ransom back at UT where he belongs. He’s still young. I’d love that pickup to happen.
“but for Verducci to make it sound like they plan for the Yankees is purposely to get older is just asinine.”
He should’ve taken the angle of – with all those old players coming off the books within the next 5 years, the Yanks are going to spend even more money.
Harping on the whole overspending issue makes no sense to me, other than to sell newspapers/magazines/etc. Unfortunately, the Yanks have proven for the better part of the past decade that spending does not guarantee you victory. Granted, it does help keep you out of the cellar, but its still up to the players to make the team a title contender.
Uncle Ellsworth
April 1st, 2009 at 2:42 pm
When I was kid not only did we imitate the batting stances of players like Mickey Rivers, Thurman, Sweet Lou and Roy White we also imitated Bob Sheppard announcing the players.
He will be missed.
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Unless you could hobble to the plate like a 90 year old man with eggs in his shoes, no way could you do Mick The Quick proper justice.
Cano with a lead off triple
Did Bob Sheppard really retire? Or is it a April Fools joke?
Betsy
I made that mistake and clicked on it.
Basically it was a doomsday scenario for the Yankees this year – in time lime form
June 12 Derek Jeter gets shingles and is put into an assisted living facility
July 9th – Posada’s arm literally falls off
That kinda stuff
Not clicking is the only power you have against writers you don’t like.
SOS – GB is right, according to this website:
http://www.1966batmobile.com/
I’ve had an epiphany:
no single game, unless it’s the clinching game in a World Series, is worth losing Jorge.
I get it now. He can olé plays at the plate until the end of time.
Betsy,
There seems to be a cluster of white, well educated, north eastern journalists who grew up rabid Red Sox fans and have taken their fanaticism into their jobs. It’s like a club. It’s kind of disturbing. They don’t hide their allegiances.
Look at Pete. I don’t think Pete grew up a Yankee fan, in fact I think he grew up a Red Sox fan (correct me if I’m wrong Pete).
Yet, Pete covers the team fairly. He’s a professional. While he may tweak Arod here, he does a great job and shows legit enthusiasm for Yankee players. He’s not biased.
The Red Sox Cabal of “journalists” are just completely unable to be partial. They, in fact, help the team by being their PR and advertising arm.
I think there is serious glee over winning 2 championships and I get that. I was puffing my chest out about the Yankees in 96, 98,99,2000.
But I’m a fan. Not a reporter.
It’s silly to get up in arms about this though because the games are won and lost on the field.
What pisses me off is that these journalist/media types are helping the Red Sox gain an advantage in trades.
If you hear Manny Delcarmen is the next best things enough times, it starts to sink in even though his numbers don’t back it up.
Where it’s really wrong though is the minor league pimping that goes on about Red Sox prospects. Every single one of them is a future all star and hall of famer and plays the game the right way.
That kind of reputation fueled by the media helps in trade discussions.
I know opposing GM’s are supposed to be shrewder than to fall for that, but when they have to go back to their fan base and owners to get a deal done it helps to have some of the love letters being printed about red sox prospects with them.
Right now they have hyped this Tazawa kid up to be a front of the rotation all star who will compete for Cy Youngs and apparently is not capable of throwing anything but strikes.
And he hasn’t thrown a pitch yet in Fenway.
If this hype continues and Hallyday hits the market and the Red Sox decide to put Tazawa on the table it looks like they are actually giving up something incredible when in truth, they are giving up a pitching prospect.
I guess in the end it’s as sickening for Yankee fans to watch the Red Sox get a competitive advantage through the media as it is for Red Sox fans to watch the Yankees spend their money to win at all costs.
Tex to be on with Michael Kay in a sec
GB7
I had the best Mick the Quick impersonation complete with bouncing the bat on the plate.
Betsy:
That Francessa question about Joba was a joke, although I wouldn’t put it past him to ask something like that.
Pettitte on WFAN now
“Last year we had Karstens, Ponson, Rasner & Farnsworth in our pitching staff which leaves me 1 question…
HOW THE HELL DID WE WIN 89 GAMES?!?”
Still trying to figure that out as well man, we had no business even winning with those guys, Farnsworth somewhat less, I’l be honest he pitched better last season for us, but you never knew when he would blow up in a game.
Dueling Yankees! Andy is on with Mike
“GB is right, according to this website”
I stand corrected. Used to attend the Barrett Jackson show (and others) each year in Phoenix and it was said to be a GTO.
“Pete, just wanted to thank you for the incredible work this Spring…..can’t tell you how great it was to be kept in the loop on everything and get your perspective.
Looking forward to the season – I’m flying in from Cali for Opening Day!!!
Anyway, thanks again for everything.
Chris”
Must agree, terrific job down in FLA Pete keeping us diehards informed about every movement of the Yankees, Arod shenanigans aside of course,
“HOW THE HELL DID WE WIN 89 GAMES?!?”
*and*
“Still trying to figure that out as well man”
then why is Giradi on the hot seat ?
John in Ohio
April 1st, 2009 at 2:59 pm
SOS – GB is right, according to this website:
http://www.1966batmobile.com/
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I was positive that Barris did the car, because he did most of the studio cars and cars for the stars, like Bobby Darin. He also designed and built the Munster Koach…aka Dragula. Wasn’t absolute about the Batmobile’s start. I knew it was either a Lincoln or Pontiac Bonneville.
Nice April Fools joke, wow…..LOL
I’ve got two radios on at the same time now…Andy AND Tex, lol
Nice April Fools joke, wow…..LOL
I’ve got two radios on at the same time now…Andy AND Tex, lol
Uncle Ellsworth
April 1st, 2009 at 3:01 pm
GB7
I had the best Mick the Quick impersonation complete with bouncing the bat on the plate.
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Mick was a classic…especially with his verbal shots at Reggie Jackson.
“Reggie, you’ve got a white man’s first name, a Mexican’s middle name and a black man’s last name. No wonder you don’t know who you are,”
“HOW THE HELL DID WE WIN 89 GAMES?!?”
and
“Still trying to figure that out as well man”
“then why is Giradi on the hot seat ?”
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I don’t think Girardi had a great year managing last year. But being able to write CC, AJ, Wang, Joba & Pettitte in as starting pitcher all year will help anybody manage better.
The Yankees really went crazy with the ads in the new park. Looks pretty bad.
“HOW THE HELL DID WE WIN 89 GAMES?!?”
and
“Still trying to figure that out as well man”
then why is Giradi on the hot seat ?”
Because the media needs a storyline to talk about, OMG, groundbreaking news a Yankee manager who doesn’t make the World Series stands the chance of getting fired. Heaven forbid that they could actually print an article that says Joe Girardi did a decent job given the circumstances of the team, such as Hughes and Kennedy bombing and being hurt, Posada and Matsui missing most of the season, Chien-Ming Wang being out for half the season, Andy Pettitte pitching hurt down the stretch because along with Mussina he was the only reputable starter, since we all know Rasner and Ponson and their 5+ ERA’s were studs.
The media print that c’mon too dull of a story to talk about as opposed to firing a manager.
wow marte pitched an inning without actually giving up a run.
“The Yankees really went crazy with the ads in the new park. Looks pretty bad”
they do. The matching color ones (blue, white, red) are tolerable. However the yellow Mason sign in RF looks terrible. strange.
They deleted that one quick..
To be fair, the outfield wall ads are just as much a part of the history of Yankee Stadium (and other historic stadiums) as the facade and the monuments.
http://albums.phanfare.com/sli.....id=2414156
http://www.thechuckknoblog.com.....eague.html
“Pete, just wanted to thank you for the incredible work this Spring…..can’t tell you how great it was to be kept in the loop on everything and get your perspective”
co-signed
thank you for all you do, Pete
so the NYTimes got the story on the retirement and no one bothered to tell the Yankees? Weird
Well I was referring to the amount of ads they have on the outfield wall. Old Yankee Stadium never had that many ads on the walls.
It just looks really bad and over the top.
“The Yankees really went crazy with the ads in the new park. Looks pretty bad.”
the crap that people find to complain about on this blog never ceases to amaze me.
you have to be kidding me.
Pete -
Have a safe flight to NY.
You have provided excellent coverage of spring training and it is much appreciated.
I feel like we’re all ready to “Play Ball!”
Baseball America Organization Talent Rankings- Yankees come in at #15.
http://www.baseballamerica.com.....67865.html
Maybe you dpn’t like the ads on the wall, but at least they help keep ticket prices low.
“To be fair, the outfield wall ads are just as much a part of the history of Yankee Stadium (and other historic stadiums) as the facade and the monuments”
Franco:
for some.
in my introduction to baseball, there were no billboards on the outfield walls. There must have been a temporary ban prohibiting them, cuz for a period of time no stadiums had them.
“the crap that people find to complain about on this blog never ceasses to amaze me”
It is baseball related on a baseball blog and there is a new stadium about to open…….
by the way, the parks looked glorious during this time. (except for the cookie-cutter parks)
“Maybe you dpn’t like the ads on the wall, but at least they help keep ticket prices low”
good one, Nick
G. Love …. Gammons quoted an NL scout in the article you are alluding to. Gammons did NOT say that Tazawa is better than CC.
The quote alludes to the risks of long-term, big dollar contracts for pitchers. The NL scout is simply saying that, several years from now, Tazawa may well be performing at a higher level than CC, and at much less cost. Neither the scout, nor Gammons, is saying that Tazawa is better than
CC right now.
You’re charging a “Red Sox Cabal” of journalists with a Sox bias, but you’ve totally misinterpreted one of the columns that allegedly proves your point. Again, Gammons is quoting someone else. Before you take umbrage at the printed word, and draw conclusions bases on your comprehension, be fair to the author(s). By skewing the primary source, you’ve done a disservice to the originator and to those who accept your summary.
“the crap that people find to complain about on this blog never ceases to amaze me.
you have to be kidding me”
yup. It’s important to me
The new Conspiracy theory:
The only reason Jeter is batting first is so he can be the first (Yankee) batter at Yankee Stadium.
Being discussed on TMKS..Kay thinks it is a ridiculous notion.
Giuseppe Franco
That was a terrific slideshow …what memories …thanks !!!
Go Yankees 2009
TMKS…ludicrous
Ellsworth:
is Kay talking about Cutler today ?
“then why is Giradi on the hot seat ?”
He shouldn’t be. The media wants it that way though.
Brian,
I’m sure Gammons hears far less enthusiastic reports on Red Sox players and prospects from “scouts” that he NEVER prints. We didn’t read anything bad about Craig Hansen until he was traded.
He chose that quote for a reason.
He’s not objective anymore. He’s pimping out the Red Sox system to help Theo in trades.
It’s obvious. Be happy you have someone in your team’s corner to do that.
All we have are owners willing to spend to win.
Vinny- B
not that I’ve heard – but I’ve been switching between M. Fran
Mick was a classic…especially with his verbal shots at Reggie Jackson.
“Reggie, you’ve got a white man’s first name, a Mexican’s middle name and a black man’s last name. No wonder you don’t know who you are,”
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Priceless.
why would anyone justify the self-aggrandizing Kay by repeating the ludicrous TMKS is beyond me. is there anyone more full of himself than he?
^^^ooh, sorry. that tx to GB7.
Mike Lamb would be a good sign for the Yankees. McPherson never has danced in the big dance.
Joltin’ Joe
April 1st, 2009 at 3:44 pm
why would anyone justify the self-aggrandizing Kay by repeating the ludicrous TMKS is beyond me. is there anyone more full of himself than he?
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No. Even his self-flagellation and open yearning to be Derek Jeter are products of an over-the-top ego.
What I really can’t stomach is his lack of appreciation for letting the game tell the story. He has to chew up every bit of space with his shrill commentary. He also summarizes, again and again, the sort of recent “backstory” to a player’s slump or other. This never elucidates anything for the viewer, because he/she already knows the story, especially if they’re local.
Very true, Gammons is a poster boy for the Sox.
bodhisattva
April 1st, 2009 at 3:44 pm
^ooh, sorry. that tx to GB7.
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Rivers is a very funny guy. Even now, he has very little use for Jackson. Jackson used to make fun of Rivers’ way of speaking. Jackson was bragging about his money and his “162 IQ” one day. Rivers said, Hey, Jax, is it true that you have a 162 IQ? Jackson said yes, he did. Rivers’ response: “162 out of how many points?”
“It is baseball related on a baseball blog and there is a new stadium about to open…….”
right. and stadiums have ads on the walls.
there was a big Canon ad in RF of the old stadium, WB Mason in CF. the rest of the stadium was covered in ads.
it’s ridiculous.
“there was a big Canon ad in RF of the old stadium”
sorry, LF.
Yankees are trying to give away this Grape Fruit Championship
G. Love – Certainly, a columnist can tilt an article with the quotes selected. So you might be on to somethin there.
But you’ve touched on another interesting topic …. the value (perceived and otherwise) of prospects as trade chips.
I’m convinced that it’s not a bad thing to get “fleeced” occasionally in a trade. In recent years, the Sox have traded Kelly Shopach, Freddy Sanchez, Hanley Ramirez, David Murphy and Anabel Sanchez. All of these players have been Major League ready as they left the Sox system.
It is the track record of sox farmhands that makes them attractive in trades, not the praise of NE journalists.
The Yankees are known for hyping their prospects (as do most clubs), but the ones who they trade become Ricky Ledee, and the ones that they keep regress and show fundamental flaws (Cano, Cabrera). Hughes and Kennedy failed, leading to CC and AJ.
Until the Yankees trade (or keep) a few farmhands who actually succeed, they’ll never gain credibility in the eyes of the other GMs.
Who the hell is Jason Stephens?
Nick in SF. saw your link last night, the facebook one. that was great!
just bought a ticket for Friday
and now i really can’t think about much else (other than hoping it won’t rain)
The Yankees win!!!
boddhistava
the most annoying thing about him, i turn the tv down, is when he reads the disclaimer and says the “aforementioned” NY Yankees. Almost as annoying as when he described the uniforms. someone must have ordered him to stop that. with him he takes it as a compliment when someone complains.
“By skewing the primary source, you’ve done a disservice to the originator and to those who accept your summary.”
Gammon, as with all writers, chooses the quotes he will use to make a point. The reason he comes off biased is this scouts opinion is stupid. Therefore Gammons is reporting a stupid opinion to make some form of point.
Brian – the Yankees don’t have the “benefit” of losing as much as the Red Sox have. The better prospects are a result of the Yankee dominance in the late 90′s which left them with some crap draft choices.
Few team have wall to wall ads. It’s not the fact that there are ads on the wall it’s the amount they have. It’s hideous looking.
Even CitiField wall isn’t covered in ads.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/admorales/3404242745/
what i can’t understand is how Kay gets away with his nonsense. someone likes him. certainly not the fans. he himself shows a self-hatred at times. is it just evident to me?
Jason Stephens, a man who won’t make the ballclub this year lol:
Walk
Single
Single
Ground Out
Single
Fly Out
Walk
What a mess
Thanks vinny,John in Ohio and Gb for the batmobile question.
Vinny,
It does look alot like the GTO. It had me fooled.
John in Ohio,
250K concept car in 1955. Darn right ridiculous. It must have had some batmobile gagets in it.
GB7,
Just when i think i can stump you, you nail a another one of my weird questions. Good to know you Gramps.
i don’t care about the ads. don’t like WB Mason since it makes me think of fenway. but at least our stadium is named after our team.
hey pete thanks for all of the st updates. did you accomplishment the goal you wanted.
“at least our stadium is named after our team.”
Exactly would we prefer they remove the ads and name the stadium, Microsoft field or change the name of the stadium to the highest bidder when a contract for naming rights ends.
Russ W210 – The Yankees (and Red Sox) pay “over slot” in the draft, which gives them access to all of the hard to sign prospects. Also, their money gives them an equivalent advantage in the international market, which is not subject to the draft,
If the Yankees have had lousy prospects in the last decade, it’s not because of the draft order – it’s scouting and development.
Brian, you’ve got to be kidding me…we have Joba and Wang as starters (Petitte too), Cano, Gardner, Posada, Jeter. Rivera, Coke, Marte, Veras, Ramirez out in the pen. My count shows 12 out of our farm system, and 7 who have come up in the last few years…Sorry we didn’t have the advantage of finishing after the Sox for 13 years in a row to have better draft choices, but our farm is doing its job.
Brian,
You bring up Hanley. Everything we’ve read was how Theo never would have made that trade even though Beckett was instrumental in winning a championship.
Gammons has explained the Hanley trade as a blip and an organizational mistake due to unrest in the front office.
When a Red Sox player goes to another organization and succeeds like Hanley and Cla Meredith did, all you hear is how the Red Sox never would have made that deal if they weren’t trying to fight the big bad Yankees. You get excuses that are spun to make sense rather than actual criticism of the deals from any media members.
The perception that the Red Sox farm system produces only gems isn’t true just like the perception that the Yankee farm system only trades future Rickey Ledee’s isn’t true.
Dioner Navarro, Nick Johnson, Soriano are all examples of Yankee minor leaguers and pro’s who went on to be successful in other organizations. Nick would have been one of the top 1b in the league if the injury bug didn’t plague him.
The Red Sox a couple of seasons ago with the help of Gammons praised Kason Gabbard into being the next Tom Glavine. It helped them get Gagne who was very hot at the time.
How’d Gabbard turn out?
Using the Hanley/Annibel trade as evidence is weak because that trade comes with the “Theo wouldn’t have done it” asterisk.
My issue is that Gammons and ESPN give a virtually tongue bath to all things Red Sox. Show me a post/article criticizing one Red Sox player not named Manny.
It’s because the media there are Red Sox fans.
I don’t believe the Red Sox saved baseball and are all that much smarter than the average bear.
They do a lot of things Beane was doing years ago just with a bigger budget and a more cooperative ownership.
G love on fire.. strong post…
poor little red sux and the 2nd highest payroll in the game..
they are the little guys like microsoft is……….
Brian,
Let’s review all the Sox players out of their farms system:
Starting Pitching = 1, Lester
Position Players = 3.5, Pedroia, Youk, Lowrie (.5), Ellsbery
Pen = ?, Paps, Masterson, Delcarmen
Wow, what a difference…btw, who are your young catchers in the great RedSox farm system?
Re: Sox prospects
OK, Brian. It seems your implying the Sox system is the only one producing prospects who reach their ceilings.
For every Hanley Ramirez, the Sox have dealt a Casey Fossum or a Craig Hansen, highly overrated and overhyped prospects who helped the Sox acquire key established players like Schilling and Bay.
You mention the Yankees dumping bust prospects like Ledee but what about Dioneer Navarro and Alfonso Soriano? And if you want to talk about Freddy Sanchez and David Murphy, what about Nick Johnson, Juan Rivera or even Marcus Thames?
The Yankees farm has been consistently turning out just as many quality players as the Sox.
The difference is, the perception is that Ellsbury is the same class as Pedroia while Gardner or Melky should never be included in the same sentence as Cano.
The difference in the media hype is that Buccholz is a future ace while Joba belongs in the pen. Masterson is a good trade chip but Hughes stock has fallen.
Baseball Predictions
AL East
1. New York Yankees
2. Boston Red Sox
3. Tampa Bay Rays
4. Toronto Blue Jays
5. Baltimore Orioles
AL Central
1. Cleveland Indians
2. Kansas City Royals
3. Minnesota Twins
4. Detroit Tigers
5. Chicago White Sox
AL West
1. Los Angeles Angels
2. Oakland Athletics
3. Seattle Mariners
4. Texas Rangers
NL East
1. New York Mets
2. Florida Marlins
3. Philadelphia Phillies
4. Washington Nationals
5. Atlanta Braves
NL Central
1. Chicago Cubs
2. Cincinnati Reds
3. St. Louis Cardinals
4. Milwaukee Brewers
5. Houston Astros
6. Pittsburgh Pirates
NL West
1. Los Angeles Dodgers
2. San Francisco Giants
3. Arizona Diamondbacks
4. Colorado Rockies
5. San Diego Padres
Playoffs
AL Division Series
New York Yankees (3) vs. Cleveland Indians (1)
Boston Red Sox (3) vs. Los Angeles Angels (2)
NL Division Series
New York Mets (2) vs. Chicago Cubs (3)
Florida Marlins (3) vs. Los Angeles Dodgers (0)
AL Championship Series
New York Yankees (4) vs. Boston Red Sox (2)
NL Championship Series
Chicago Cubs (3) vs. Florida Marlins (4)
World Series
New York Yankees (4) vs. Florida Marlins (2)
Award Predictions
AL Manager of the Year-Trey Hillman (Kansas City Royals)
NL Manager of the Year-Fredi Gonzalez (Florida Marlins)
AL Comeback Player of the Year-DH Travis Hafner (Cleveland Indians)
NL Comeback Player of the Year- SP Randy Johnson (San Francisco Giants)
AL Rookie of the Year-SP David Price (Tampa Bay Rays)
NL Rookie of the Year-3B Pablo Sandoval (San Francisco Giants)
AL Cy Young Award-SP A.J. Burnett (New York Yankees)
NL Cy Young Award-SP Johan Santana (New York Mets)
AL MVP-CF Grady Sizemore (Cleveland Indians)
NL MVP-SS Hanley Ramirez (Florida Marlins)
Why even bother with Brian the Red Sox fan. Let him go lecture someone else!
So Long Florida! Hello New York!!!!!!! It’s been a long ST!
Noreaster – The core from the 90s (Jeter, etc.) came from the Stick Michael farm system – another era. Re: the currebt group: Wang is excellent. Joba broke down as a starter. Cano regressed, as did Cabrera. Gardner – who knows?
It’s safe to say that the jury is out on the viability of the current group (Wang excluded).
The fact is that two Red Sox farm products finished 1 and 3 in last year’s MVP voting (and none were benched for indifference). That gives a lot of street cred to the system.
G. Love – I’ve heard two basic stories on the Hanley trade (1) Wouldn’t have happened if Theo was there. (2) Theo never cleaned out his office, and was consulted on everything until he came back on board. Who knows?
But that’s not the point. The Sox said that Hanley was an elite talent, and they were right. GMs would tend to trust Sox prospects more as a result of Hanley’s success.
P.S. I forgot Soriano – he was an excellent international signing. Good point.
The Dodgers signed Barry Bonds, that team sure does have an offense I really wonder how he will fare in LA.
What I really can’t stomach is his lack of appreciation for letting the game tell the story. He has to chew up every bit of space with his shrill commentary. He also summarizes, again and again, the sort of recent “backstory” to a player’s slump or other. This never elucidates anything for the viewer, because he/she already knows the story, especially if they’re local.
bodhisattva:
This is a great post that relates to most tv announcers. You are dead spot on with your quote “letting the game tell the story” That is why we watch the game of baseball. I have never tuned into a game to hear an analyst.
***Please note Erin Andrews is not considered an analyst…
-dennis
S.o.S.
April 1st, 2009 at 4:02 pm
Thanks vinny,John in Ohio and Gb for the batmobile question.
Vinny,
It does look alot like the GTO. It had me fooled.
John in Ohio,
250K concept car in 1955. Darn right ridiculous. It must have had some batmobile gagets in it.
GB7,
Just when i think i can stump you, you nail a another one of my weird questions. Good to know you Gramps.
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S.o.S., you can always ask me questions or about information on obscure things. As you know, I’m quite full of it.
Information, smartazs.
Question..
Is it a rule to be a red sux fan you need to be; a pasty white guy, overweight, that lives in your parents basement, could never play sports, use everyones nickname, wear a jersey to games that they should have stopped wearing about 8 years ago, and be a pig headed pain in the a–????
just asking
new post…
Hmmmm, so Cano is finished a la Melky, Joba “broke down” as a starter, presumably never to be heard from again, Hughes has disappeared off the face of the earth, and the Yanks have no other prospects in the pipeline worth mentioning.
Meanwhile, some Japanese prospect who is yet to pitch in a big-league game will go down as the shrewest signing of the off-season when we’re peering backwards from 2016.
April Fools?
Gammons no longer cares that he’s the quintessential “homer” and is not afraid to flaunt his guitar playing relationship with Epstein and being a Boston pimp. Almost like he came out of the closet and feels better about himself.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Gammons
“As I wrote, I thought the Red Sox were wrong to ignore the unwritten rules and sign Tazawa. Had the Yankees done that, they would have been ripped.”
Pete, next time you do are asked to speak on ESPN, PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE slip this in to the commentary.
Nobody in the media aside from yourself has mentioned this fact. It’s ridiculous.
I speak to some hardcore Sox fans on a regular basis and none of them believed me when I told them about this because the only thing they read or see is that the Sox are geniuses for this signing.
“Until the Yankees trade (or keep) a few farmhands who actually succeed, they’ll never gain credibility in the eyes of the other GMs.”
This is partially true, sure. However, there is no doubt some bias with some reporters/analysts either for the Red Sox or against the Yankees.
ESPN, for example, is in the entertainment business. They aren’t in business to tell it like it is.
There are enough scouts out there to get a different opinion on every single player in baseball. I’ve seen enough of the “one anonymous scout says the Red Sox will go 120-42″ garbage. “One NL GM said Phil Hughes is a future #5 starter if he’s lucky.” Rather than point out that most GM’s would not agree with this, they print just this one sentence in an obvious effort to manipulate the opinion of their readers.
Unless the lemmings stop settling for bogus, biased reporting, it’s going to stick around.