“I guess we’re not going to go 162-0″
Posted by: Peter Abraham - Posted in Misc on Apr 06, 2009 
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That’s what Joe Girardi had to say. He didn’t seem overly concerned with the events of the day. CC Sabathia could not command his fastball and as a result he gave up six runs. Over the course of the season, that’s going to happen four or five times.
In terms of specifics …
Mark Teixeira said he was expecting the boos. But they were particularly loud today. That the local hero turned down his hometown team doesn’t sit well with the Baltimoreans. But why in the world would he have signed here in the first place?
Xavier Nady was waved around third by Rob Thomson, who thought that ball in the sixth inning was getting through. By the time he put up the stop sign, Nady had his head down and was running.
The Yankees left 11 runners on base, at least one in every inning. “It seemed like there were a bunch of times we were about to take the lead,” Johnny Damon said.
Nice start for Brett Gardner, who was 1 for 3 with a sacrifice and threw a runner out at the plate. Ramiro Pena made his debut and Nick Swisher came off the bench with a double. Hideki Matsui ripped one and Jorge Posada was on base three times and caught nine innings.
It’ll get better. It can’t get much worse than today.
Thanks to everybody for reading today and sorry for the occasional technical issues. Lots of traffic today as you might expect.
Gay.
Worst part is that we have to wait two days for the next opportunity to get our first win.
By the way, you know the Yankees are playing in four home openers this season. That’s gotta be a record.
we won our first game last year against halladay and look what happened. cant go anywhere but up now
Did anyone ask what was the deal with the heating pad CC wore between innings? Seems odd.
So, Matsui “ripped one.” If you have to, well, I guess you have to . . .
Hey, the Phillies lost their home opener last year.
The important thing is winning the series. And remembering that in 1998, we also started slow.
Is it Wed yet?
Pete we are gonna need registration soon(if possible)
OT-Keeping my fingers crossed for Michigan St. tonight, though I have a feeling it’s gonna be all North Carolina. Hope I’m wrong.
As an aside, I am now watching a 2005 rerun of Queer Eye and the “victim” is the Assistant General Manager of the Staten Island Yankees! How funny is that??? (probably put it on to coincide withy opening day!)
Andrew-Apparently all pitchers do that, or at least a lot of starters. Something about relaxing the arm muscles.
There were some good things today: Gardner, Swish, Matsui, Posada…….but they were completely overshadowed by the crappy things we saw. This looked like the same old, same old team – lousy at bats with runners in scoring position. I’m trying not to worry about the pen – well, I’m not worried about Coke and Alby pitch well. Bruney? Marte?
As a fan, it’s hard to sit on this loss for another 48 hrs – I’m almost glad the Yankees have to, though. Maybe they should watch a replay of this game and be slightly emabarrassed that they played like the Bad News Bears.
And every team wants to win their home opener.
I’m just glad CC is okay – just trying to keep warm.
Its only one day but Tex looked like Arod, and Matsui the guy they talked about trading last winter is still the best clutch hitter on the team.
LET”S GO MSU!! PIRATES/ORIOLES WORLD SERIES! APRIL 6TH FOOLS!
I think registration is a fabulous idea.
For Tex to look like A-Rod he’ll need to do a lot more stupid things i.e. agree to photo himself kissing a mirror. One game people. I’ll buy anyone whose worried today a shot if we win a WS this year
Betsy-Well, we’ll look better as the year goes on. First of all Tex is a notoriously slow starter, so the lack of clutch will fix itself. Second, when C.C. gets acclimated we’ll have much better pitching than last year. It’ll be interesting to see how the pitchers start. Third, by the end of April, we get back A-Rod. That’ll be a big lift.
By the way, Melky who?
Sheesh, what is it with the Tex looked like A-Rod comments? A-Rod is a great player ……..people are making him out to be the 2nd coming of Cody Ransom.
best thing about today was 2 walks and all good ab’s from Cano. His walks high for a season is 39 and he needs to break that by a good margin this year and go from there.
I hope Tex is like A-Rod!
Today’s game was a disappointment, but at least in a couple innigns there the Yankees showed some fight. At least, Matsui and Posada did. You can tell how much their bats were missed.
Didn’t Sabathia start 1-5 last year?
Tex is a notorious slow starter. I won’t get concerned unless he’s below the mendoza line come July 1st.
Fizzle ‘n Drizzle.
CC allowed 13 base runners in 4 1/3 innings.
Polish Prince: And with an ERA something like 13.50.
Matsui and Posada will help a lot when the pitching gets its sea legs under it.
TeixMVP, I’m not worried in the least about Tex. The guy has a track record. I’d be more worried about Bruney (and maybe Marte, but IMO, more Bruney)…….and about clueless X on the basepaths.
CC will be fine – every pitcher has a bad day and he is a slow starter. He was also making his first start in pinstripes – I’m sure he was nervous. The fact that he was SOOOO bad almost makes me feel better than if he was just mediocre. This was a start too bad to be true. He just has to forget about it and move on.
As I recall, CC got raked the first month of last season. He seemed to finish up fairly well, though.
It’s a long season.
Polish Prince-If he finishes like he did with the Brew Crew, I’ll take it.
I still rather have Swisher starting and Nady off the bench.
Rather have Melancon & Robertson who where hardly given a shot in ST instead Vares. Too bad it’ll take a quite a few bad games out of the pen for that to happen.
Betsy,
Tex is the new ARod (sans Hookers, Old Chicks, and Freak Show).
That hit by Cano when he got the count to 3-2 was great. Lets see some more of that with men in scoring position.
Alright y’all….
I’m headed out to meet some friends and watch the NCAA championship game.
Don’t take this loss too hard, I’m trying to put it behind me.
Nothing a few shots of tequila won’t be able to fix!
Ciao.
Betsy-Don’t worry, Melancon will help us a lot. And anyway, I think Bruney will pull it together. As for X-Man, it was the third base coach’sfault. Shouldn’t have sent him.
Good point about Cano, Phil……I think he’s set for a pretty huge year.
The worst part of the game wasn’t CC for me, it was the inability to bring Swish home with no one out. I’ll leave it to others to decide whether bunting was a good play or not, but nevertheless, there was a runner on 3rd and less than two out. I’m not going to kill Jeter because overall he had a great day and he looks good swinging the bat, but ugh…………Still, the Yankees had a chance and they didn’t pick him up. It wasn’t only Jeter. This is a trend that goes back to last year…..
I’m a naturally pessimistic person and I’m trying REALLY hard to quell my negative thoughts. It’s not easy though.
If not registration, then close the comments section in the game threads when the game begins.
It’s embarrassing how badly this blog falls apart with the morons posting in the game threads everytime the Yankees lose a game.
What good is having 1200 comments in the game thread if 1100 of them are idiotic rantings from delusional and mentally unbalanced people?
Makes no sense to me why the best Yankee blog around allows morons unfettered access.
It’s going to eventually ruin this blog if something isn’t done soon.
“Its only one day but Tex looked like Arod”
35+/100+/100+, I’ll take it.
By the way, I noticed Santana pumping his fist after a big DP and K-Rod blessing himself and looking toward the heavens after the FIRST GAME!
But because Joba pumps his fist after a SO, he isn’t classy…who here thinks anybody on SNY will have the guts to call them out, or Francesa for that matter? What? Nobody?
Well said SJ. Many of the posters here today have the intellectual wherewithal of a raccoon distracted by a ball of aluminum foil.
I hate marte!!! why did cash sign him for 3 years? And bruny as our set up guy… OMG!!!
Teix, we discussed this last night. I’m not looking at Melancon as a savior because he hasn’t thrown a pitch in the major leagues. I’m sure he will be good, but right now he’s not here and the Yankees have got to get Bruney straightened out. I’ve no idea what to think about Marte. At least Coke was fine for awhile and Alby was good. Still, for me, the pen is my secondary worry. The failure of this offense to click unless they are hitting HRs is worrisome.
Betsy-I say bunt all the way for jeet. You had a good hitter up behind you and a speedy runner on third.
SJ44, i don’t know you from a hole in the wall, but you are awesome.
Betsy-He’s not here NOW, but they all have to start eventually. I don’t look at him as an immediate Joba-type savior, but I do look at him as a good pitcher who will be a decent set-up guy (better than anybody we have)right now and an eventual (hopefully) great closer.
I’m fine with registration as well………..It’s one thing to be worried or pissed off, but some of the comments are just off-the-wall.
On a more positive note, at least we have Wang and AJ going the next two games; we’re not following up CC’s bad performance with Karstens, Ponson and Rasner.
Well said SJ. Let’s crush speech. Saddam Hussein would be proud of you.
Teix, there was already one out when Jeter came up. He was never going to bunt.
Hey, I’m looking forward to seeing Melancon, but if he’s here sooner rather than later it means this pen is not doing it’s job.
Last year cc threw 2 wild pitches in 253 innings…
SJ44-This comment is not directed at you directly, so don’t get on my case, but who are we to decide what’s moronic and what’s not? That’s not fair. The point of the blog, like, in a way, democracy, is to post all opinions. If the opinion is the Yankees are going to fail, fine. Choose to ignore it if you want, or comment and respond, but don’t block it out. Who are we to decide what’s a smart comment?
What would registration accomplish?
Registered users will still gripe and engage in hyperbole.
SJ, I’ve been thinking the same thing over the last two years, but it dosen’t stop this blog and I still come back.
However, the blog has lost some really good posters over those two years.
Not too happy with the game, but I think I’m more upset about not being able to watch UConn go for thier 3rd national championship.
Get over yourself SJ44. You’re just a number on this blog. You’re no different from me!
sj- I totally agree. Something needs to be done here, and quick. This place always turns into a sewer when the season starts and the yankees lose a game. Lets hope Pete’s bosses don’t take the tack the 1,000 hits is a 1,000 hits good bad or indifferent. All it is going to do is drive away the good posters.
Betsy-One out still leaves you with one left. Sorry, but I would have bunted him all the way. At the very least, he should have swung upward. And anyway, as you could see, Bruney and Marte didn’t do their jobs. I’m worried more about Marte than Bruney. Marte’s a bust, get him awayand bring up Melancon!
TIME FOR #27-So the solution is to have C.C. pitch more innings!
cb- It would be much easier to block people.
Teixeiramvp-
SJ is a fraud. He was the first one to freak out and trash the team during Torre’s final season.
Alright, I’ll come down off the ledge, but if they lose tomorrow night I’m jumping.
I so had my heart set on 163-0.
Teixeiramvp
Go look at the previous thread, it is quite simple to see what is moronic.
jennifer-What YOU thought was moronic. The people who posted it obviously didn’t think it was moronic. Who are we to decide?
Until A-Rod gets back, the Yankees are going to need to do a better job hitting with runners on base and win games when they score 5 runs if they are going to keep pace with the Sox and Rays.
The guys that had the worst games are the guys I’m least worried about. CC and Tex are going to get the Yankees a lot of wins this year.
It’s not good that the 2 guys that are supposed to be the bridge to Mariano looked so bad, but it still is more or less the same bullpen that was so good last year.
Definitely not how you want to start the season, but Wang’s going next and when he pitches the Yankees win.
Trashing the team is one thing…but what some of the things that is posted during game threads isn’t trashing the team, it is just a way of egging on others.
Baja-Alas, I believe (maybe I’m wrong?) that there are only 162 games anyway.
jennifer-
I know that. But on what basis? Just for being negative? I mean if we ban every regular posters who blows up and calls for Cash’s hide or Girardi’s scalp then there will only be a handful left.
Baja, if the Yankees lose tomorrow night, then they are really jinxed team ……..they don’t play until Wednesday, lol
no.27-Just remember the Phillies lost their opening day last year and that the 98′ Yanks started bad.
Vader-Maybe, but they’re allowed. Freedom of speech.
Yeah Pete, I know I come on here a lot and say dumb things for kicks but I think it’s time we have registration here. The Trolls are just annoying no matter how much you try to ignore them. Not that registration would rip this blog of all trolls, but it would certainly cut the number. It’s a little ridiculous at this point to have to come here and see some moron say that our season is over because CC pitched poorly. Get crackin on that Petros.
Yeah, I was aiming for ironic about the schedule, guess I hit moronic instead.
As to the 163 comment, if they all get voted into the All Star Game and win, that would count in my book!
This is not a free speech issue, it’s a moron issue. No retard, I won’t shutup.
Now go off and what you do when you aren’t posting idiotic nonsense on this blog.
The Yankees lost a game. Get over it, have mommy make you milk and cookies and tuck you into bed.
The blog is not a psych ward. If you have mental problems, see a shrink.
The people on here want to talk about baseball and not read nonsensical gibberish by illiterate crybabies.
If that comment hurt some of your feelings, then it means it’s directed to you.
Jermaine D’Twan Monroe-Gibbons-The concept sounds good, but in reality who are we to decide what’s stupid? I know Peter hates A-Rod, and he’s allowed. So someone comments that they love the fact that A-Rod admitted he took steroids and think he’s a class act (it’s a hypothetical situation). Fair? And banning someone who thinks the season is over after one game isn’t right, I may not agree but that’s their (admittedly stupid, in my opinion) opinion, and they’re entitled to it.
As a passive observer, I can attest to the fact that SJ44 brings something every day.
I know I’m not alone when I say that the Yanks are the happy place — this blog is special, or at the very least it should be. I can’t tell you how many times I hit refresh and when I see trolls and instigators, it’s depressing. Registration would keep a few of the worst offenders away.
SJ44-Exactly-They’re crazy in YOUR opinion. But in their opinion what they said makes sense.
I wish we could, but we can’t stop people from making comments w/o being hypocritical ourselves.
True…but it is just hard to have an in-game conversation when there are some who could care less about the game and more about getting thier jollies by saying things that some think is moronic.
That is what I mean about losing good posters over the years…after awhile they just get feed-up and no longer post.
Another reason for registration(actually probably the main reason) is name theft. Anyone remember that problem last year. People would pretend to be someone who already posts here and it was not cool. Just saying, because I am bet it will probably happen again. Just my 2 cents.
What the heck, I go get a snack and it’s already 22-7 in favor of UNC? Yikes.
The difference between this year and last year is that when the ace lost it was an ineffective Pettitte or Ponson/Rasner/Kennedy next in line to start.
And even if it turns out that Bruney and Marte aren’t going to be consistent enough for the set up role, there are guys in the minors that can either step in, or get traded for someone that can.
The last two posts labeled CB were not me (9:25 and 9:32). That was someone else using my handle.
I’m not going to post anything more for the rest of the night.
It is odd that Pete said there would be registration and has clearly changed his mind about doing it. It just isn’t all that difficult to do technically so clearly Pete or the newspaper don’t want to do it..
Clearly it’s a policy decision to not have registration.
It’s rather unfortunate. The notion of measuring a blog’s value by the number of comments seems odd but that’s clearly what they are prioritizing.
And prioritizing it, unfortunately, at the expense of the community that had been fostered here.
It’s rather unfortunate that so many of the regulars no longer comment as often as they did, especially on the game threads.
The people complaining and whining about the negative comments must not be currently in NYC.
NYC, the subways, Yankee stadium, my building would be antiseptic if we banned every critical/pessimistic commentator.
Grow a thicker skin. Hello, this is the town of Howard Cosell and the NY Post.
TeixMVP, these trolls have nothing to contribute and only try to incite people. They probably don’t even believe half of what they say – they just want people to react. Moderators of blogs/message boards have the right to restrict access to their sites and it’s not considered an abridgment of freedom of speech. It’s a priviledge to post on a board/blog – it’s not a right. You can’t run into a movie house and scream “Fire” (when there isn’t one), creating chaos and panic. There are certain limits to FOS.
Everyone who disagrees with SJ44 is a retard and a moron! He’s calling for registration now to ban everyone who he dislikes! Communist LOHUD? YIKES!
Tex is a slow starter, yes, but even sitting in the upper deck today, it was easy to tell that he was pushing WAY harder than he should have. Look at the outs he made, and it’s pretty obvious. The one bouncer in front of the plate and the weak pop foul are generally the results of pushing. Playing in his home town, and getting absolutely DEMOLISHED by the fans will do that to a guy. It’ll get better.
As for CC…wow. That was just atrocious. Guy couldn’t throw a strike to save his life, and when he did, he got hammered. Like Pete said, it’s gonna happen a few times in the next 7 years. Also, with his history in the playoffs, one could begin to think that EXCESSIVE pressure isn’t something he loves to handle. He looked nervous a few times out there, and I don’t remember a case where he had to start the season getting thoroughly lambasted by the crowd. It was an incredibly passive aggressively hostile environment to sit in, and I just…didn’t really care for it. But CC will be fine. I’d rather he get this start out of the way against a team like Baltimore, who likely isn’t going to be there at the end, than to have it happen in August or September against Boston or Tampa.
Overall, though, honestly, just a terrible experience as a Yankee fan.
You should be able to register a handle so no one else can use it. I’m okay with that!
First game of the season and people are calling for registration already? WOW, it’s gonna be a long year.
S.A.–It’s a marathon, not a sprint-Name theft makes more sense as a reason for registration.
Betsy-If someone dileberately causes chaos (and not annoyance on a blog, an illusion of danger) I agree that that’s diffrent. The problem is, who are the trolls? Your definition and mine may be diffrent, and therein lies the problem.
CB, I wish you would reconsider – but I understand if you don’t.
This sucks – CB is one of the best posters here and now we can’t read what he has to say about this game because people are so pathetic that they have to post under his identity? This isn’t the first time it’s happened – and it’s happened to me once before.
Today was a depressing game, but CB would you care to share your insights? Maybe we can get back to baseball……….
Tex, I understand your point about one’s person moronic might be another person’s brilliant (paraphrase) but it really is frustrating to see people flipping out and saying that (for example) Cashman should be fired for signing CC and Tex because their first game wasn’t very good!
I don’t know what the answer is because it isn’t only trolls who are doing it. There are every-day Yankee fans who say some things that could be considered questionable at least if you were to be entirely objective about life!
Anyway, I would love it if Pete had two threads running during each game, one for people who want to emote negatively (their right, you’re right) and another for people who just way to enjoy the game without a lot of negative emotion. I know that I personally don’t intend to hang around a lot longer if the calibre of comments is going to be much like some of the comments today. While I agree that it is unfair to tell one group of people their comments are not welcome, not matter which group, it is equally frustrating to have to wade through things like posters saying (again, for example) that the Yankees definitely won’t be making the world series this year after today’s game.
What?????
And is Shutup SJ44 going to be your handle? Why? What do you get out of it?
Betsy
Don’t bother trying to rationalize with him. It isn’t worth it.
I like how Cano took his ABs srsly a 3-2 count and a walk, this is our Robi ? hopefully he continues it because I dig the patience, Ramiro Pena I didn’t get to watch, Gardner is going to create many run scoring oppurtunities, CC didn’t have the heater today so what can you say. Alot of baseball left.
Cody catch the ball 
The best thing about today’s game was not having to watch the broadcast through a net.
Now we have to deal with the fakes again. Wonderful.
If this keeps up, it will drive away more good posters.
Since this will now bring out more fakes, this will be my last post of the evening.
Hopefully, Pete and the paper will find a way to work something out that benefits the blog.
As it is now, what they are doing isn’t working.
“retard” ?
I vote to ban SJ44 for using patently offensive language.
The irony, a person objecting to trolls using trollish language.
I need a vacation…
wow- Attention he is so sorely lacking. I wish along with registration we had something we could click on the name and shrink it, you would only be able to see that they said something , but not what they said. that would clean up this place.
Donnie, sorry you had to see such an atrocious showing by the Yanks.
CC hasn’t pitched in that many post-season games and I give him a complete pass for last year. After pitching 3 consecutive starts on 3 days rest, no wonder the guy was exhausted. That was pressure – I don’t have any doubts about his capacity to handle the spotlight. I assume he was just overanxious and nervous about his debut in pinstripers. He’ll be a horse the whole year.
Teix, it’s pretty apparent to me who the trolls are……..Registration is very common on message boards and blogs. I don’t even know of a message board where you can post without having distinct (meaning you can’t just change it all the time) username and password.
Sorry Joe Yankee, but posters who suggest registration and closing threads to fend off verbal offal are not advocating “crushing speech.”
Fighting off infantile trolls is like preserving green spaces for the enjoyment of all the folks who want to use this space for its intended purpose. My guess is that you would be the first person to complain if somebody started littering at your favorite park. This is no different. Visit anytime you want, but respect our pinstriped space.
I was thinking of the exact same thing earlier today, Jennifer. I second the notion.
trisha-Frustrating maybe, but if we all want to post our opinions we have to deal w/it.
Yankees wil be fine.
HAHAHAHAHA
I love watching you guys tear each other apart. Especially the blowhards.
Trish, I’m a very negative person and sometimes my emotions get the better of me (like right now, I’m trying to quell my worries about the Yankees……), but I’m not sure I would want to post on a separate thread. Sometimes people have honest concerns about a team and they may want some insight and/or reassurance. I don’t have a problem with those who tend to be worrywarts (like me), but I do have a problem with the constant comments made about Alex (for instance) because those, IMO, are meant to incite. I also do have an issue with being completely ridiculous and saying that Tex may be a flop because he can’t handle booing……that’s going way overboard.
Betsy-To YOU it’s very aparent, but then again to all of us it’ll be apparent according to our opinions.
I like the idea of registration as protection vs. Identity theft, but not for the reason of “getting rid of trolls”.
For people who really want to talk about something that happened in a game, the game threads are just very difficult to navigate.
I don’t think anyone objects if there are some comments that reflect how someone felt about a particular play, i.e. – “Jeter just made a cr-ppy throw.” What gets to be ridiculous is the paragraph of diatribes which then continues by calling for Cashman’s head and the team stinks and the season is over, etc.
It gets tiring trying to pick out the posts that really do have a connection to the actual game. It’s not impossible, but it’s not easy.
And then you get the people who just insult everyone else in a really vulgar manner.
Whether it keeps them away or not (and clearly it does not), you’ve got to resist the urge to respond to the trolls. Don’t even respond to them in order to stick up for someone else. I can’t imagine why people get a thrill out of ruining other people’s fun, but why should a blog be any different from anywhere else. Those types of people exist.
If you’re looking to get rid of all negative commentary, that’s really not a good idea. During a losing game, there’s going to be a fair amount of venting. Ignore what you can’t handle and move on.
Dirty Sanchez (Mets Fan-Oh yeah, how will you lose with your dynamite offense…
Great picture of the HR ball. Johnny was over the wall but it looks like someone grabbed his arm.
http://news.yahoo.com/nphotos/.....ead21a901/
Wang should start opening.
Posting “Fire Cashman” or “CC is awful” is not against the Terms of Service.
I’m so dumb lol.
“Shutup SJ44″ you got it all wrong, SJ44 isn’t a commie, he’s actually a member of the Taliban trying to impose Sharia blog law.
k2-Agreed, but it has nothing to do with the game (C.C. is a great pitcher). Wang has been a Yankee for years, C.C. has pitched one game. It’s not fair for C.C. to start the home opener.
Betsy – Pete himself posts the Alex comments and we just respond to it.
I’m so dumb lol
Have you ever noticed in ballparks that on the opposing teams it is the really good players that get booed. Medium to poor players are rarely if ever booed.
When the Yankees come to Boston you know that Arod, Jeter, and Tex will be booed. No offense to Melky, but he isn’t likely to be booed a lot.
So what is my point? My point is that the presence of trolls on this blog is a pretty good indicator that the Yankees are viewed as the top dog in the baseball world.
Do you think there are trolls on Pittsburgh Pirate blogs? I highly doubt it.
Even as a Sox fan I can appreciate that it is frustrating to see the idiotic and moronic comments on here. I am not trying to justify trolls, but I think it just goes with the territory of being the New York Yankees which has been the most dominant team in the history of the game.
I don’t always agree with SJ’s thoughts, but I certainly respect them. My own personal opinion is that it is not necessary to close the comments section during a game. I think that will only delay the troll comments until after the game.
This was the first game of the season and so it could have been predicted that a high number of trolls would show up, but as the season unfolds I think the number will subside.
Jen, I was hoping to actually discuss baseball in the hopes that I would start feeling better about today’s game……no such luck, lol. I’m going to take a break and watch a comedy or something – just to get me laughing. Right now, all I feel are negative thoughts – even about Wang.
I’m so dumb lol..
As a Yankee fan living in California I was pleased that the game was televised on ESPN — that is, until the game actually started. What a rotten beginning!
To some degree I blame Girardi. H might have realized that CC just didn’t have it today. With all pitchers rested and with an off day tomorrow, he could have gone to the bull pen much earlier than he did.
I just noticed that Biden threw the pitch to Chad Moeller. Good to see he stuck in the majors to open the season.
It’s not up to SJ44 to determine what comment is moronic. It is up to Pete, it’s his blog.
ray (sox fan)-THANK YOU, that was one of the most realistic and complimentary comments a Sox fan has made to the Yankees. Now I feel kind of bad that I picked the Rays to finish in front of them!
Oops, disregard the slash.
This blog gets more hits than most message boards do and is by far the most popular Sports Blog out there, Why would Pete want to change anything? Just to accommodate a few whinny, thin-skinned fans?
The traffic on this blog is increasing by the day. The same people who are whining tonight about the ‘trolls’ will be right back here tomorrow morning.
Joe-Yeah, that’s what I’m thinking.
we had 1337 comments last post nice
Jax, Pete posts some of the comments – and people respond. But look at the stuff tonight – Tex is another A-Rod? All of a sudden, A-Rod is a crappy player and Tex is just following in his footsteps. That’s ridiculous. I happen to like the guy, but even if you don’t, it really shouldn’t matter. The guy makes this team better and he would make any team better. I don’t want to turn this into a discussion on Alex because those never end well. It’s just that some of the Tex comments tonight were ludicrous.
Doreen, I wholeheartedly agree with you (as I just posted) about not getting rid of the negative/worried posts. Some of use ARE genuinely concerned at times……I think it’s pretty easy to separate the wheat from the chaff (I’m sure I spelled that wrong, lol), though. Some people just blow in and out of this blog – they are drive by posters. They put their “opinions” out there, never to return.
Betsy
Thanks. You’d think I’d be used to it by now. Last season, the one game I saw in the Stadium was Moose’s game against Tampa that ended, like, 13-4 or something.
That said…I really don’t care for going to games anymore. Baltimore fans, as a general rule, are just absolutely toxic. I love the game first, and the Yankees second, and to see fans waste time booing a player the way they did to Tex, and to chant “Yankees suck” instead of “Let’s go Orioles”…that’s just disappointing to me. It’s disrespectful to the game itself. Root for your team as hard as you want. Cheer when they succeed. But don’t spend your energy dissing another team. It’s disgusting to me, and it’s teaching the kids there that it’s perfectly okay to be a loudmouthed jerk to some one, just because they’ve had some success in the past, and your team has not. I’m not advocating, like, “everyone getting a trophy”. I’m advocating winning with some humility and class. Charm City? I think not.
And you’re right. I’m not worried about CC. It’ll be there, and the guy challenges himself so much that I wouldn’t discount his next start being the polar opposite of what we saw today. The best two things about this game were Gardner working his tail off, and Swisher showing why he should be starting in right. They scored 5 runs. The offense, at this point last year, wasn’t doing that. If the pitching had bothered to show up, we would have been in good shape.
SJ44 April 6th, 2009 at 9:47 pm
If this keeps up, it will drive away more good posters.
Since this will now bring out more fakes, this will be my last post of the evening.
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I gonna have to agree with SJ. Without registration, we’ll drive away all the good posters, leaving us only with SJ44.
Am I missing something?
Aside from a few Orioles trolls after the game, that was a typical Game-Day post. Why only tonight are people complaining? It’s not like the outrageous comments were out of control. It’s normal for the GD threads.
Hey Teix,
It didn’t bother me that you predicted the Rays will finish ahead of the Sox. I think the AL East will be hotly contended for the whole season by the Yankees, Rays, and Sox.
I’ve been impersonated here buy trolls making lewd and obscene comments about my sex life. You get over it or you don’t belong in New York.
The O’s and Jays are tied for 1st in the AL East.
another yr and more dumb and elitist comments from the resident boob SJ44. Glad to have u back
Without the outrageous comments, this blog will have maybe 50 comments a game.
Thats what comes with the Yankee fanbase— the passionate and sometimes irrational fans. Why should Pete punish them for no reason?
There is a difference between irrational Yankee fans and ‘trolls’.
When did Randy Johnson change his number to 52, get a tan and gain 175 lbs?
Donnie: Wow, you’re a better fan than me. Yankees first all the way, can’t even fathom rooting for another team, LOL. I’m like that with every sport, absolute loyalty. I HATE the Red Sox. By the way, both Nady and Swisher hit doubles. Nady made a base-running blunder, that was only because the coach sent him. I’m a Nady guy, actually.
I have no problem booing a player or chanting Yankees suck. I love it. It means the fans are into it. They have passion. If I were to go to a Red Sox-Yanks game at the stadium, I would dutifully chant “Red Sox Suck” like everybody else. Can’t help it. It’s inbred.
ray (sox fan)-Yeah, I pick Yanks first, Rays 2nd, Sox third, but extremely close the whole way.
Teixeiramvp-
If you make people register to comment on this site, the trolls will begin the leave because it will now take time for them to create a name and password. The trolls want a quick way to bash the Yankees so they find a blog to disrupt. If you made them sign up and log in in order to comment that would almost completely stop. Nobody is gonna say let me talk smack about the Yankees real quick, find this blog, see you need to register, do it, then talk. They’ll leave, go to the next blog on Google and do it there.
The comment totals will be down but the hits will be fine. Pete should do it.
I post on Bryan Hoch’s blog but like only once a day. It’s a real pain in the butt to put your name and password in every time you visit his blog.
When I come here, my name is already in the Name part and so is my email and I just post.
Most trolls come out during a Yankee loss.
The good news, we won’t have to deal with them 90-100 times a year.
The bad news, we will have to deal with them another 60 or so more times.
I’m dumb.
Donnie- I agree! Why not cheer for your own team.
To that point I had the wfan on for a few minutes. Someone called up and said it was a good day. The Yankees lost, and the Mets won. Um shouldn’t you be more concerned about your own team winning than the Yankees losing? I really don’t get that. I guess it goes along with being top dog. (I guess we still are). I really get the feeling there are a good number of met fans that would rather see the Yankees lose, than the Mets win.
I’m stupid.
Jermaine D’Twan Monroe-Gibbons: Maybe I’d agree except that on blogs with registration there are just as many trolls as here.
I’m dumb
dt- We still have to deal with them if the Yankees are behind in a game.
Very unfortunate people using others screen names- that needs to stop.
But all the other stuff is just the cost of doing business – you have to take the good with the bad.
Yes…. because we played such a great game today that there should be no criticism about the team on the blog.
Did some of you watch the game today? If you did, maybe you would understand the frustration from some of us. It’s not like we’re nitpicking and complaining for the hell of it.
jennifer: I love when the Sox lose.
“They’ll leave, go to the next blog on Google and do it there.”
great idea…………………..
pat- That won’t last long.
I think we should hit on the positives today.
Jorge came through the game fine. Swisher hit a double (?) hopefully he will grow nicely into the ph role. Brett threw someone out, did what he had to do with the bat.
We can only go up from here.
Donnie, I agree. Of course, Yankee fans are no better than O’s fans – booing Jeter and Mo, lol. Unbelievable.
I feel for Mark being booed that viciously, but he’s a big boy – he’ll be fine. The media is going to assume he had a bad game because he was booed, but how much do they really know? He could just have had a bad game because……….until he hit his HRs on Saturday, Mark had had a few lousy at bats in the new YS.
Criticism is a matter of opinion. What may be over the top for someone else may not be over the top for you or me.
Nobody here is in any position to tell others how to feel or react after a game. There is no rule saying you can’t be irrational (and that is a matter of opinion).
Never believe in the hype until a team proves it can win. This collection of Yankees has proven themselves losers over the past 5 years. Despite the additions, I will be a skeptic until this team proves then can actually put up W’s. Today is an excellent case in point. A few more games like today and this team won’t see the light of day until August, just like the Yankees of the last 5 years.
There are some people here who obviously didn’t learn anything from their government classes in high school.
The right to free speech means the government cannot put anyone in jail or shun them from speaking out against them.
That’s it.
The right to free speech doesn’t allow people to say stupid idiotic nonsense on a private blog without the threat of any repercussions.
Registration is the best way to keep the jackals down to a minimum. Pete has the right to ban anyone he chooses and doesn’t need a reason for it.
Swisher will be the starting RFer by May 1st.
Don’t even bother reading the papers or listening to Francessa, Kay, ESPN etc. for the next 2 days.
I’m predicting a heavy dose of Sabathia vs. Santana.
Yes…. because we played such a great game today that there should be no criticism about the team on the blog.
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Did anyone say there should be no criticism about the team? No.
Swisher needs to start forget a PH role
Giuseppe Franco
here here!!
Disappointing game, especially since I wore my CC jersey. And Pete, the cheers for Mo, were all coming from Yankee fans, every O fan was booing him in my section (behind the Yankee dugout)
$80 at Camden Yards buys you behind the dugout seats. Where does that buy you in NYS? haha, middle deck?
Ill post my pictures in a little while
Giuseppe Franco
The right to free speech doesn’t allow people to say stupid idiotic nonsense on a private blog without the threat of any repercussions.
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People can’t (or shouldn’t be able to) to say stupid things are because Peter can set any rules that he wants.
First Amendment free speech protections (or lack thereof) are irrelevant.
Coke – Exactly. But be careful, people will accuse you of being a troll.
Carl, who isn’t criticizing the team? They sucked today – they did few things right and, IMO, they looked like the same old, same old team on offense. Not getting the run in (whether by Jeter or Tex) with a runner on 3rd and one out is just incredibly poor execution. The pen stank (except for Alby and, in parts, Coke)…….the SP sucked. I don’t have a good feeling right now at all – I’m already completely nervous about Wang in Wednesday and I’m starting to envision an O’s sweep. That’s just my negativity coming out, though.
I’m not quite sure what you are comnplaining about. Have you read some of the comments (like about Tex being a flop)? That’s hardly the same as criticizing the team’s play.
carl- Well until Joe puts him in rf, he is strictly a ph’er.
I don’t get trolls. Don’t they have families or friends? And since when does the internet extend to under bridges?
Giuseppe Franco-I get the impression you’re referring to me.
I just used free speech to throw out a phrase. I’m just thinking, who are we to decide what’s irrational. “A-Rod sucks” is irrational to us, but doesn’t mean people should be banned from saying it.
Every Day Phil Coke-You’reright, we will in fact lose aa game once in a while. I was hoping to avoid it, but alas, we could not. Oh well.
True, basically the state cannot regulate speech. Pete can, though.
I guess I was spoiled when we posted on the NYTimes forum. I never saw whining and complaining about the Yankees, seriously. There might have been a complaint every once in a while, but I didn’t see people flip out and knee jerk per play, the way I’ve seen it here on game threads. Someone did bring up a good point. Today’s thread was really no different from other game threads. You always have people here who are distraught no matter what.
I absolutely understand that people have a right to feel what they feel and opine whatever way they want. So then I have a decision to make myself. If I feel that I don’t want to be surrounded by what I consider to be totally nuttiness where people spin out of control on a regular basis and are ready to give up on every Yankee player when that player isn’t perfect, then it is my responsibility to remove myself from it. And I am sure that is exactly what I will end up doing.
Betsy I will say that I have the greatest respect for you because you are someone who has always said that you recognize that you might overworry sometimes. It certainly isn’t someone like you that has caused me to decide to disappear from this forum. It’s the people who (in my opinion, again) act like outrageous spoiled brats who are totally out of touch with reality. To be able to say with a straight face that the Yankees made a mistake signing CC and Tex because they didn’t have good games their first time out is beyond outgrageous. Again, in my opinion.
My preference would be to have a separate game thread set up where people would feel free to make comments like “wow that was a crappy play!” but wouldn’t feel the need to dismantle the team, fire the GM, and decide that the Yankees didn’t have what it took to go to the postseason because of the crappy play! It’s the extreme kneejerking and kvetching that really does me in. Short of Pete doing something like that, I definitely won’t be here much longer and I certainly won’t show up during games. I want to enjoy this season. The calibre of some of the gamethread posts make that entirely impossible for me.
Teixeiramvp-
Don’t get me wrong, I also hate the Red Sox. With a passion. Just like I generally hate ALL NE sports teams. I live and die by the Yankees, and how they perform. But I just…respect the game itself over everything else. This game was hard to take because we didn’t lose with our best stuff. We lost with Clown College Cody fouling up the defense over at third, and CC being all over the map. I can take losses where the other team just beats us, but today, we beat ourselves, and that’s hard to take. I’m all for fans being in to the game. I don’t mind at all when they start up, “Let’s go, O’s!” chants, because they SHOULD. It’s when fans started asking, “WHERE ARE ALL THE YANKEE FANS NOW!?”, and chanting “Yankees suck” that I get turned off. If I had kids, and one of them brought home an A on an especially hard test, I’m going to tell him, “Great job!”, and hang it on the fridge. I’m not going to go in to the classroom and start chanting to the other kids how much they suck. That might be an extreme example, but I hope you see where I’m going with it. I won’t ever chant “Red Sox suck”. I’m not saying it makes me a better person for it or anything…but I love the Yankees more than I hate the Red Sox, and would rather cheer for my boys than tell the guys on the other side how I feel about them. They’re doing their job. That’s their place of work. I wouldn’t want someone coming in to the library where I work, watching my storytime, and making snide comments from the back of the room…so I won’t do it to them. After all, they love the game as much as I do, if not more. If it hurts me when my team loses, they must feel devastated, and I don’t think it my place to feed off their disappointment. But that’s just me.
Also…it’s…inbred? I do not think that word means what you think it means. haha
Props to pete, this is the best yankees blog ever!
Nah, I still enjoy the thread. I love dismantling the arguements of “trolls”.
Betsy, there have been far worse things said on this blog than questioning Teix for the game he had today. I don’t see why that is a big deal.
Carl
There’s a difference between frustration and manic. Some people haven’t quite grasped the nuances.
Saying a specific play sucked is frustration, saying the whole team sucks because of 1 bad game is manic.
Maybe this has already been shot down, but the heat packs C.C was using had me a bit nervous. If he is essentially healthy then one bad start doesn’t worry me. Neither does Tex’s day at the plate. He looked good in the field, just pressing a bit at the plate.
Five runs is nothing to sneeze at, with a better pitching line today would have been a win. As a Melky fan, I am being won over by Gardner. I liked his bunt Saturday as well as the hit and run today. His throw was also impressive. Not overly strong, but very accurate. Alby and Coke looked good too. All in all there was a lot to be pleased with today.
Donnie-I love the passion of it. If I went to Fenway and heard the Yankees suck chant, i know the world is normal.
And Betsy, you are absolutely correct. I dislike a large number of Yankee fans for that exact reason. Booing is just unnecessary. Why bother? It’s not like he WANTS to go out there and suck. The fans were booing Chris Ray today. It’s like…Dude. He’s coming off major surgery. He didn’t pitch all last year. He’s going to have some rust. Lay off.
I just think it’s classless. Cheer or keep it to yourself.
Time for Joe to promote Coke/Albie to the setup role and demote Bruney/Marte to the long men.
espresso-I blame C.C., Bruney, and Marte.
expresso,
He said he’s fine.
Teixeiramvp –
And I will not take that away from you. You are MORE than entitled. You buy your ticket, you do whatever you want (within reason). I’m just saying why I think, at this juncture, I’m not really meant to go to live games. I am not belittling your expression of enjoyment at all.
That Japanese pitcher we see tomorrow worries me… we all know how we do against pitchers we haven’t seen before.
I imagine he is like most Japanese pitchers and will hide the ball well and have a delivery thats hard to pick up on.
Donnie-Whatever floats your boat, right?
So Yankee fans back to debate- How long does Girardi guarantee Nady in RF? I know I’d like to see Swisher as a regular player cause he lightens to mood, has fun out there, but most importantly he gets on base. It’s only one game, but we don’t want to let a slow April creep in.
NickSwisherTough night tonight. It’s alright. Let’s try and win the next 161.
The problem is that
A. This team is loaded with slow starters who are basically inept in April
B. The team still can’t execute fundamentals or score consistently without the HR.
The faces may have changed but the problems remain.
Gotta go, if anyone else uses my name , it’s not me.
dont shoot, not a troll!-
Why do you care if it happens on another blog that you have no part in?
I cant deal with this cody ransom guy for another couple of weeks.. my god was he awful. And to think people actually thought the yanks would be OK without the man, the myth, the legend..the A-Rod
I don’t see how Girardi doesn’t play Swisher and Ramiro Pena on Wednesday
They earned it and Nady/Ransom both cost us today.
Brightside….
Yankees, Sox and Rays are supposed to compete at the top this year. After tomorrow, either Tamp of Boston will also be 0-1.
“There’s a difference between frustration and manic. Some people haven’t quite grasped the nuances.
Saying a specific play sucked is frustration, saying the whole team sucks because of 1 bad game is manic.”
THIS says it all.
“It’s rather unfortunate. The notion of measuring a blog’s value by the number of comments seems odd but that’s clearly what they are prioritizing.”
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It’s great that the blog is getting record page views and tons of comments but SJ44 is right. Pete and LoHud made a conscious decision to drive page views up as much as possible at the expense of the quality of the blog. After a while, if the percentage of “quality” posts continues to decline during game threads, another blog is going to come along with registration and take over.
It’s one thing if idiots want to come here for no other reason than to annoy others, but it’s another thing when people try to use others’ names (CB being the latest victim).
I missed the second half of the game. Heard the updtes in the car. Was glad to see the Yankees almost get it back. Those last 3 runs hurt, the one walked in really hurt, the next really, really hurt, and then I just tuned out after the last two.
So what happened? Our “long men” did okay? Where did the 4 extra runs come from?
Even if we had come back to take a lead today, did you see how Bruney/Marte performed today? We would have probably lost anyway, in an even more heartbreaking fashion unless Girardi went to MO for 4-5 outs.
Their performances were the biggest concerns from today, moreso than CC or Tex. They were supposed to be our setup men yet they had awful springs and followed it up with horrible showings today.
Trish, thanks for the kind words. I remember the NY Times forum…..there were a lot of good discussions there, even amongst Yanks/Sox fans.
I usually scan the game threads very quickly because there are too many posts – people are commenting as the game progresses and it’s just too much. In general, game threads on message boards/blogs everywhere are going to be negative. Every play is the end of the world, basically, and judgments on players are immediate and harsh. Was I annoyed at Jeter for not getting the job done? Sure – I groaned out loud. Did Tex aggravate me by not picking him up? Did Bruney piss me off and CC frustrate me? Yes, but my negative emotions towards any Yankee players are generally just passing – they last as long as the aggravation from a loss lasts.
Tomorrow, we are going to get bombarded with Johan’s great/CC sucks stories. We are going to get bombarded with Tex can’t handle the spotlight…….I plan on ignoring them.
Oh and why no replay of the stolen homerun off Damon’s glove? I realize it is the curse of Jeffrey Meyer or whatever, but that was 12 years ago, and we have replay now to avoid stuff like that. no?
I hope these guys got this ugly #%^$ out of their system.
And isn’t it a little early to be benching players?
ray (sox fan): You’re right – the loudest boos are for the best opposing players. It’s too bad about the wackos who surface as the game progresses, but what can we do?
As to SJ44, anyone who doesn’t appreciate what he bring to the discussion here is misguided, and I’m trying to be polite. I have to say the level of raving craziness during today’s game was surprising even though I’ve been reading this blog for a few seasons now. It’s as though people’s sense of perspective evaporated as soon as the Yankees began to lose. CC has a bad first game and he’s a bum. Tex doesn’t hit and he’s a choker. Jetes grounds out after having gotten hits earlier and he’s done. Bruney falls apart and that’s it, stick a fork in him. After a loss like this, the apocalyptic pronouncements of the back page of the tabloids and from the talk radio crowd are to be expected. But the level of vitriol on this board seems to have been ratcheted up exponentially today. Sure it’s disappointing to see them play this poorly (with a few exceptions), but raving like lunatics and panicking like a herd of stampeded cattle after one game? Really? Wow.
As for your prediction that the AL East will be a battle to the end: I love the Yankees and I think they have upgraded their starting rotation and their offense considerably, today notwithstanding. I hope they win 100+ games and that Pete’s prediction comes true. But as everyone agrees, the three best teams in baseball are in this division, the Rays, the Yanks, and the Sox. So it could well go right down to the wire. I guess we’re all in for a wild ride all the way to October, and after that, we’ll see what happens. Looking forward to an exciting 2009 and some great postseason baseball in the best division in the game (and let’s go Yanks lol).
Oh Please. There is no blog that will ever overtake Pete’s.
The Daily News, Newsday, the Post etc. all have comment sections that maybe get 1 or 2 comments a day, and most of them do have registration.
None of them update their stuff as often as Pete either, they are not committed to maintaining their blogs as Pete is.
I’m really trying to stay positive but there are so many things wrong with this team. I have been posting on many boards all night and I just can’t seem to keep the negative thoughts at bay.
I’m starting to think the season is a total loss. The new stadium has so many things wrong with it I cannot even list them all. Tex looks lost at the plate, CC doesn’t seem to be able to handle the pressure, Bruney was awful, Jeter’s defense is getting worse and worse.
I’m a negative person in general and even though I’m trying to stay positive I feel all is lost.
Free Booze
April 6th, 2009 at 10:28 pm
So Yankee fans back to debate- How long does Girardi guarantee Nady in RF? I know I’d like to see Swisher as a regular player cause he lightens to mood, has fun out there, but most importantly he gets on base. It’s only one game, but we don’t want to let a slow April creep in.
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Right. Girardi should change plans after one game. Makes all the sense in the world.
“But as everyone agrees, the three best teams in baseball are in this division, the Rays, the Yanks, and the Sox.”
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I wouldn’t say everyone. The Phillies showed they were better than Tampa Bay (with Longoria and Price) last season. The Cubs are pretty good too. I’d say “three of the best six” teams to be safe.
Donnie, I never really thought about it, but I don’t think I’ve ever booed a Yankee – it just feels funny to me. I can get angry or frustrated at them, I can yell at them and say stupid things to the tv, but I don’t mean it. It’s just me being a fan…….. These guys are doing their best. I have a really bad feeling that CC/Tex/AJ are going to be booed their first time out in new YS the minute they don’t execute a pitch properly or come through with runners on base. These guys will not get one ounce of slack and that’s a shame.
the yankees.com board has registration and it is invested with trolls.
even a 5th grader knows how to change his IP address and create a new e-mail address. i fail to see how it will help. if it could, pete would have done it by now.
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Alba did okay. Coke started out good but hung around a little too long. Bruney never should have left the pen and you know that’s saying something because he’s my pet project.
That the local hero turned down his hometown team doesn’t sit well with the Baltimoreans. But why in the world would he have signed here in the first place?
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Exactly, Pete. And all they did with the childish sour grapes they expressed, was reaffirm why it was a smart decision for him to not play there. Really pitiful.
“Tex is a notorious slow starter. I won’t get concerned unless he’s below the mendoza line come July 1st.”
OK this is the opposite of irrational “opening day panic” and it’s just as misguided.
Yanks didn’t spend 22 mil per season for Doug Mankiewicz numbers!
Absolutely… CC, Teix, AJ better hope they do well at home or the fans will kill them.
If CC has this performance on Opening Day, the boos will be deafening.
I think someone just stole Betsy’s screenname. I don’t THINK that was our Betsy…
LETS GO YANKEES!!!!!!!!!!
ITS APRIL 6TH, ALL WILL BE GOOD!
Betsy April 6th, 2009 at 10:38 pm
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That post can not have been the real Betsy. Egads!
Jeers – Exactly lol. Teix needs to produce, he is the 3rd highest paid player in the game.
Wow, my first imitator tonight. That is NOT me who posted at 10:38………….
I don’t think it was, Trisha.
It really didn’t sound like her at all.
Thanks for the insight GreenBeret! Is anyone watching the A’s/Angels game on ESPN? They keep ragging on the fans for the food they’re eating. It’s pretty funny but a little rude.
Knew it!
pat,
Thanks. Just looking at the box score now and saw Coke’s line.
Well, I think the bullpen roles will be more clearly defined now. It’s obvious that Coke needs to be taken out of that “long” role and and should set up Mo. Bruney & Marte go to purgatory-middle relief. But we knew this from the spring, right guys?
I just used free speech to throw out a phrase. I’m just thinking, who are we to decide what’s irrational. “A-Rod sucks” is irrational to us, but doesn’t mean people should be banned from saying it.
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No, my comments weren’t necessarily directed at you.
They were directed at anyone who thinks this blog doesn’t have the right to regulate speech all it wants.
Freedom of speech protects your right to speak out against the government.
A private entity such as Lohud is can regulate whatever the hell it wants and it’s perfectly legal to do so.
All the stupid “Commie” references are by people who obviously never paid attention in school.
Betsy
More Paxil and less blog surfing seems to be in order.
In MLB network they already started about Joba to pen. Today’s reason is he will not be a good starter.
LOL see? The person who imitated me didn’t even fool anyone – good job, lol.
I wouldn’t worry, Betsy. Most people who have been here any length of time and contribute regularly tend to have been impersonated at least one. Take it as compliment, lol.
At least the impersonator did such a piss poor job of it, that it was immediately obvious to anyone who has spent any kind of time around here that it wasn’t you.
Joe cannot use Bruney or Marte in a close game
Bruney looks like he is back to his old tricks– arrogant (not just confident) and trying to throw the ball through the wall.
Marte is just a mess. No idea what Cashman was thinking when he gave a 33 yr old reliever a 3 yr deal, when he had a 1 yr player option. Very un-Cashman like move.
Betsy –
Honestly…take a step back. The game DID suck a lot…but this was one game. They won more games than any other team in the Grapefruit League this spring. The kinks will get worked out. Jeter banging that ground out with the man on third was rough, but really, as bad as the pen was today, that run wasn’t a make or break. Brian Roberts, a GREAT baserunner, got picked off today. While not fun for Orioles fans to watch, it doesn’t mean he sucks, or has lost a step on the basepaths. Tex looked lost TODAY. He raked all spring. CC was great all spring, and lost it today. He’s too good, and he’ll get it back. I’m not worried about him at all. Bruney…okay, yeah, he was awful today. I have a feeling Eiland is going to talk to him about overthrowing, and we’ll see where it goes. If he doesn’t fix it, expect to see Nady or Swisher traded for pen help.
These are all problems that will be addressed sooner, rather than later. Don’t get too frustrated by it just yet.
besty,
i’m as upset and digusted as you.i never post but i’ve been reading and checking this blog ten times a day for around 2 years.i’m a true fan.They looked bad but it’s only one day.The thing that bothered me most was the men left on base.cc will pitch great for us even though he makes willy mo pena look in shape.We will still win atleast 95 games this year.
Welcome, Donnie. You must be new around here, huh?
Hard Reynolds must be in his suit somewhere with a grin on his face after watching Bruney this Spring and today.
What an idiot Bruney is— if you’re going to call out a TV personality on something he said that you felt was wrong, atleast make him eat his words and back up your talk.
And how long is the leash on Bruney? His weeks-long slide continues.
As for CC & Tex. I have absolutely no worries about Tex. And even if I did, I’d reserve judgement on both of them. We need a much larger sample size and they deserve some slack.
Pat, that person sounded suicidal, lol…….definitely not me.
In 2 months all three of the overpaid will be wondering what the heck was going through their minds to sign for such a terrible team, then they’ll remember the dollar signs. All is good, they’ll say.
Chumps
You’re too good for this, Peter… start registration.
You don’t see Halladay or Santana have games like CC did today.
Does anyone really trust CC in game 1 of the ALCS in Fenway against Beckett? Thats the reason why most of the ‘experts’ are picking Boston in the WS, because their rotation is filed with big game pitchers.
bruney is a thrower not a pitcher.He will never be really good over 40-50 innings
I do have to say I am a little concerned about Bruney, but let’s see what happens. I still think he will get it together, well he better!
I’m glad I steered clear of the game thread today.
It can’t have been pretty.
PC Dave,
What did Reynolds say and what did Bruney do? And why is Bruney paying atttention to what these people say? He only needs to listen to Eiland.
Ahh, it’s good to have baseball tonight back.
m,
I hope Girardi doesn’t put Bruney or Marte in close games until they prove they can put up 0s. They haven’t been just bad, they have been inept.
Angel –
Thanks. Not really new, per say. I’ve lurked for a while. I’m really not usually much for message board-type activity. I usually just read comments and either agree, disagree, or laugh at the trolls. I am familiar with most of the regulars, though.
Baseball discussion: Not that it would have made a difference today, but I wonder if we’ll look back at this time as the “Pre-Melancon” part of the year. Kinda the way we did two years ago when Joba came up and dominated.
Ransom cannot play 3rd until A Rod comes back. They will be giving games away.
How about trading Hughes and Montero for Beltre?
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Heh, Donnie. Just making sure you didn’t get sucked in by the *fake* Betsy’s comment at 10:38pm.
M, I don’t necessarily want to yank Bruney or Marte from the 8th inning role yet, but I agree – Coke can not be a long man, even a semi-long man. He’s too good for that and it’s a waste. I wouldn’t use Alby that way, either. The baseball gods obviously decided that they were going to punish Joe for not taking a long man……..and they didn’t wait one game, lol.
I don’t know how long the leash his with Bruney – he’s not gotten better at all. Most disturbing is his cockiness. I thought it was confidence in ST, but now I think he’s too big for his britches. He’s not THAT good. I like him, but he needs to remove some of the fat from his brain and put it back on his stomach.
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m,
Renyonlds, on the MLBN, made a comment that he thought Joba should be in the pen. Bruney then took offense to it and said something like “I’ll show him, let him see what I do this year”.
And predictably, Bruney has been awful ever since that interview in early March. He sould have just kept quiet. He also talked this Spring about how he wants to be a closer so he can get a big contract. His head just isin’t in the right place.
m
PC Dave is talking about this from Feb:
“He said, ‘They’ll still have the problem of getting to Mariano (Rivera) in the ninth inning,”‘ Bruney recalls.
“I take that personally. I’ll show him. See what he’s saying mid-year when you’re rolling. I want the eighth inning.”
http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/s.....038;ATT=49
Those are some amazing shots of BG and CC
oops. PC Dave explained it up above.
Bruney told Harold that he was going to make him eat his words and that he was going to lock down the 8th inning, or something along those lines.
Betsy
I know it wasn’t the regular you, just making a suggestion to the new one.
There have been 2 pat’s here tonight too. Me with a small “p” and another one with a capital “P”.
Registration would help with that.
Miggs -
No. That’s the kind of thinking that got us in to trouble in past years. Ransom will be given a chance to hit. If he doesn’t, he’ll go to the bench in favor of Pena. If you have two guys, and neither can hit, but one can’t play defense, you cut your losses, and start the guy who can at least do one of the two. Cody looked abysmal on the hot corner today, and while I would be lying if I said I didn’t make disparaging comments in his direction today, I don’t think benching him after one game is the answer.
Also, I just re-read your post, and realized WHO you said to give up for Beltre, and I am officially convinced that you are on drugs.
To really understand a troll – you need to break down the origin of the word.
TRO is an anagram of the word Rot.
LL is part of that hot place. (h-e double toothpicks)
So they may be mixed up a little, but ultimately a troll
is just “rot in hell”.
Carl,
I think Marte will be okay. He’s been a more consistent pitcher over a longer period of time than Bruney.
My affinity for Bruney? Runs hot and cold. Just as he does.
As for Ransom? It was just one game, let’s see what he looks like after a few games.
We should look at trends, not microcosms, with these guys.
But, I don’t think it’s too early to worry about Bruney. Mostly because his attitude stinks.
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Stan from LA, I am sure that Santana and Halladay have had days like CC has had – absolutely sure. They’re human, aren’t they? You just don’t remember them because they are not Yankees.
M, on MLB Tonight a few weeks ago, Bruney kind of joked around with Reynolds that he was annoyed that the Yankees pen wasn’t getting enough respect and that he was going to show that he was a good 8th inning man. At the time, I thought it was cool – he was showing confidence in the pen and himself. Now, and after other comments he’s made (like he wants to be a closer, thinking a year or so ahead to FA), I’m thinking it’s just cockiness. He’s got talent – someone has got to get to him before he throws it away again.
well great game not
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Thanks for the Reynolds info, guys.
Sometimes I think Bruney’s bipolar.
CC was record setting today.
First Yankee opening day starter with 5 or more walks and no strikeouts!
As long as he’s not hurt, no worries, it’s one game. If he’s hurt and trying to be a hero, shame on him.
Run Gardner- These look like professional shots. I hope you’re going to opening day at YS cause a CC shot like the one before would make quite a background.
It’s not the last day Tex will go 0 for 4. Nevertheless he will produce and produce big. I have a lot of confidence in that.
CC had a terrible day. He and Jorge didn’t seem to click at first and I just think he was maybe too anxious. I also think he may have been under the weather. Usually big dudes like that don’t need heating pads to stay warm. Wasn’t that cold. Maybe he was sick and didn’t want to give excuses.
People here have always griped and moaned when the Yanks play bad. Sometimes it’s warranted and sometimes it’s silly like today. It doesn’t really bother me. I welcome the trolls and the naysayers. Dissent and adversity are good. This blog would be boring if everybody agreed all the time.
Not that it matters, but our two biggest question marks continued their hitting streaks.
LOL Pat…..I think that other “me” has flown the coop. As I said, the trolls are usually drive-by types. They don’t stay around long enough to take their medicine,lol
Here’s my post from the other day with my predictions for C.C.:
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April 5th, 2009 at 10:29 pm
Box score for C.C., tomorrow (weather permitting)
IP: 4
Hits: 8
R: 5
ER: 4
BB: 2
SO: 1
HR: 2
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Not bad, huh ?
I expect the inconsistent Wang to drop a bomb tomorrow, too.
I think Ransom put too much pressure on himself today. A couple of games and I think he has the ability to do a lot more. He’s no A-Rod but he is not that bad either, with a regular work load he will get into a rhythm.
Same thing with Tex, I think he let the crowd get in his head a little bit. Yes we did lose today but this is a marathon and we’ll be fine.
Free Booze,
I wish I was going. Ill be there the 20th though
How the Yanks will spend their off day from Kat @ Newsday:
“The Yankees are making a trip to the White House this afternoon for a tour. They weren’t sure if President Barack Obama would be on hand – he is due back from Europe Tuesday- and have no plans to meet him.
Still, some players were signing baseballs for the president. Derek Jeter has made several trips to the White House over the years and has met George W. Bush and Bill Clinton, but he said he has not met Obama. Apparently, he doesn’t want to make a bad impression. After Jeter’s signature didn’t come out just right on the first ball, he went to get a second one.”
Oh cool where are your seats? I’m going with 5 friends and we got seats in Sec 332, Row 3 for $10 each after fees. I’m guessing it’s an obstructed view section but from the 3d seat selector it looks clean to me.
Why were Jorge and CC having such a rough time communicating? I know the passed ball was on Jorge and I realize that CC was missing the target. A lot. I hope all the crossing up was just nerves and jitters on CC’s part.
Molina’s going to get some starts, too. Thoughts on him being a regular for any of the pitchers? Wang, AJ, Andy, & Joba all work fine with Posada. Maybe CC?
Box score for Wang, Wednesday
IP: 3
Hits: 10
R: 7
ER: 7
BB: 6
SO: 3
HR: 1
Girardi sucks. That’s all.
I have to laugh at the melodramatic warnings that registration here is necessary or else (ominous music), it will be the end of this blog.
It’s opening day, obviously a lot more people will post. And believe me, just because someone posts on here 20 times a day for the past 3 years, doesn’t mean their comments are exactly pearls of wisdom compared to a first time poster.
SJ44, you seem to have such a high opinion of yourself, I’m surprised you don’t have your own Yankee blog by now. But I’m grateful you deign to educate us plebes here.
As it is, Lohud is one of the very few blogs that has open posting, and it’s also one of the most popular blogs, bar none. So Pete must be doing something right.
And oh yeah, depressing day for CC and Tex, let’s hope for the team to show up on Wednesday!
How Alex spent Opening Day
When the Yankees opened the season in Baltimore on Monday, Alex Rodriguez, baseball’s highest-paid player, was riding a stationary bike at a high-priced athletic club in Aspen, Colo.
For Rodriguez, this was certainly a most atypical opening day. Then again, it fits right in with his odd spring. Since having surgery March 9 in Vail, Rodriguez has been rehabilitating there, and in Aspen. During that time, his name has generated headlines in New York for, among other things, an eye-raising photo spread in Details magazine and accusations linking him to the same escort service used by former Gov. Eliot Spitzer.
Rodriguez is expected to rejoin the Yankees next month. Until then, it is uncertain how long he will stay in Aspen, where he has been seen around town.
The good news for Yankees fans was that Rodriguez did not seem to have a limp. He also did not have any distractions.
After his trainer left him to work out on the bike, Rodriguez put on headphones and set to work pedaling while watching the Yankees’ game on the television monitor in front of him.
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04.....7bats.html
“…Apparently, he doesn’t want to make a bad impression. After Jeter’s signature didn’t come out just right on the first ball, he went to get a second one.”
All right. He can play SS forever.
I didn’t like the IBB. I don’t like them in general, and especially since CC had nothing today.
The guys didn’t get it done. Simple as that. Everything flew out the window with the first pitch. But the good news is there’s a lot more baseball left. And we saw some good things today, too.
As for Tex. Trying to hard? We saw it on Friday and he redeemed himself. Someone will probably give him the ‘no need to try so hard’ talk.
I have to laugh at the melodramatic warnings that registration here is necessary or else (ominous music), it will be the end of this blog.
Laugh all you want. A lot of people seem to agree with the concept of registration – melodramatic or not.
M, I think CC and Jorge will be fine – they worked together ok in ST. It just came down to CC simply not having his FB to work anything else off of. Johnny Bench could have been behind the plate and it wouldn’t have mattered. I’ll bet he pitches great next time out…..
I don’t think that was Betsy either – see the different link that was used on her name.
Free Booze,
Section 234 row 4
Not saying it was Jorge’s fault.
Just saying that Molina’s going to take some starts, too. Of course the others might be climbing over each other to grab him.
Yes, M, he was trying too hard. Like I said earlier, look at the outs he made. The grounder in front of the plate and the foul pop are both very indicative of pressing. He wanted to silence the boos, and ended up overswinging. If he continues to do it through their entire opening road trip, he’ll be talked to. As is, I think it’ll be written off as hometown negativity jitters, and he’ll try and calm down a little next time out.
Here’s the difference between SJ44 and most of the rest of us. I browse through comments for familiar names such as SJ44 and can easily ignore the vast majority of posts. SJ44 has one less good poster to read than the rest of us. In fairness though, the technical problems mostly kept me off the game day thread, so I can’t say if it was worse than before.
M, yes he will – I’m really thankful we have Molina (but more so that Jorge appears healthy). I’m crossing my fingers for Wang…….and very anxious to see how AJ does.
Donnie,
That’s what I figured. Haven’t seen enough of Tex to definitively say, but I don’t think that swinging at high strikes (Friday & today) is characteristic of him.
oops. What’s the right terminology? High heat? Cuz technically they weren’t strikes before he swung at them.
Never mind.
Hopefully we take the series and forget this ever happened.
I wouldn’t count on registration. Gannett is having financial troubles like most newspaper publishers. I registration leads to less comments/page hits that means less money collected from advertisements. Money they probably can’t afford to lose right now.
Wow I guess I have a secret admirer.
Nothing like getting home and seeing non-sensical trade requests being suggested under my screenname.
I don’t know if I should be more upset at that or the fact that no one realized that it wasn’t me.
Oh well.
This is the real miggs. The previous post was not.
Miggs
I realized it wasn’t you. That’s why I didn’t bother responding to trading Hughes and Montero for a 3 week rental.
• Thursday: Yankees (A.J. Burnett, 18-10, 4.07 in 2008 with Jays) at Orioles (Alfredo Simon, 0-0, 6.23 in 2008), 1:35 p.m. ET
• Friday: Yankees (Andy Pettitte, 14-14, 4.54 in 2008) at Royals (Sidney Ponson, 8-5, 5.04 in 2008), 4:10 p.m. ET
• Saturday: Yankees (Joba Chamberlain, 4-3, 2.60 in 2008) at Royals (Horacio Ramirez, 1-4, 4.34 in 2008), 7:10 p.m. ET
Sir Sid so soon!
miggs
April 6th, 2009 at 11:51 pm
Wow I guess I have a secret admirer.
Nothing like getting home and seeing non-sensical trade requests being suggested under my screenname.
I don’t know if I should be more upset at that or the fact that no one realized that it wasn’t me.
Oh well.
This is the real miggs. The previous post was not.
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I started to be unkind to you in a response, but, decided that you must have gotten home and discovered that somebody had stolen your Super Sugar Crisp. That’s happened to me often, and I get cranky.
Then, I decided that to response in that way would be so totally out of character for me, that I just couldn’t make myself to speak ill of others.
decided that to ***respond***
Registration will stop the name thieves and the drive-by trolls that post then leave without a second thought. Thats it. The rest? The minute and a half (if that) it takes to fill out a registration page isn’t going to deter them at all, so I’m not sure what everyone who regards it as a panacea is expecting. Trolls will still troll, idiots will still panic after every strikeout, only now theyll be registered trolls/idiots.
Why are the Yankees playing two day games in a row, on weekdays no less?
Register trolls…not guns.
remember when CC got rocked last season’s opening day? ..and what happened after that? oh that’s right, he was his “CY Young” form.
miggs –
My apologies. I wasn’t really addressing you as a person, just addressing the poster, so that it would be clear which post to which I was replying. You are probably not on drugs. That other guy, however…
Tampa Yankees Player’s Roster 2009
http://web.minorleaguebaseball.....8;sid=t587
Trenton Thunder Player’s Roster 2009
http://web.minorleaguebaseball.....38;cid=567
is anyone aware of a bus/train trip to camden yards for thursday?
i can get a ticket but would rather not drive by myself.
if anyone wants to drive a i can score a ticket.
This isn’t fair. It’s far better to have the Yankees lose while half their gimp squad is on the DL. That gives their minions an excuse
Santana and a 2nd rd pick for Sabathia and a couple of players you will even know existed in 3 years. Good trade, Chumps.
Middle relief will be the downfall of this team. Mark my words.
It was a harmless post, Pete. You must be concerned.
Compliments of MLB-trade-Rumors-R-Us.
14 Teams Cut Payroll
By Tim Dierkes [April 6 at 8:33am CST]
According to USA Today’s Bob Nightengale, 14 of the 30 MLB teams cut Opening Day payroll this year compared to last year. He adds that 10 of the 14 sliced the budget by at least $10MM. ***The Yankees’ spending spree still led to an $8MM payroll cut*** The Cubs had the largest bump at $16.5MM (despite cost-cutting moves such as not offering arbitration to Kerry Wood and trading Mark DeRosa). The Padres had the biggest reduction at almost $20MM.
It’s too early to go nuts over the bullpen. The pen was unbelievable last year, and it’s the same guys.
The best AL bullpens from last season in OPS against and WHIP were the Jays (.661/1.25), the Rays (.669/1.26), and the Yankees (.683/1.27). At the same time, the Yankees bullpen accounted for 1630 outs compared to 1453 from the Rays and 1275 from the Jays.
League average was .729/1.39 over 1485 outs. Lets say that a rotation of CC, Wang, Burnett, Pettitte, and Joba combine to be just league average. That is still 145 less outs for the bullpen to get, which should make the bullpen’s job that much easier.
I know it’s hard to predict how a reliever performs from one year to the next, but this is somewhere that I think the Yankees will be strong. Even if some of the guys on the team don’t have a strong year, there are still guys in the minors that should be able to help, or in a worst case scenario, be used to bring in a solid reliever from a team looking to cut pay roll.
Anyone else think Marte = Felix Heredia 2009? Heredia was another highly touted reliever from the NL that was terrible as a Yankee.
Are people really getting this upset over 1 freakin game? I was not aware the MLB instituted a 16 game season and have the BCS to decide who goes to the world series