Game 4: Yankees at Royals
Posted by: Peter Abraham - Posted in Misc on Apr 10, 2009 
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YANKEES (1-2)
Jeter SS
Damon LF
Teixeira 1B
Matsui DH
Posada C
Cano 2B
Swisher RF
Ransom 3B
Gardner CF
Pitching: Andy Pettitte.
ROYALS (2-1)
Crisp CF
Aviles SS
DeJesus LF
Teahen RF
Gordon 3B
Butler DH
Jacobs 1B
Olivio C
Callaspo 2B
Pitching: Sidney Ponson.
Andy Pettitte (14-14, 4.54 in 2008) vs. the Kansas City hittters.
Sidney Ponson (8-5, 5.04 in 2008) vs. the New York hitters.
THEY MEET AGAIN: Ponson was 4-4, 5.85 in 16 games for the Yankees last season. Derek Jeter (29 of 77, 5 HR) and Mark Teixeira (8 pf 15) will be glad to be facing him.
THEY MEET AGAIN, PART II: Former Yankee reliever Kyle Farnsworth is a Royal and managed to break their heart in a game already by surrendering a bomb to Jim Thome. Krazy Kyle was a Yankee from 2006 to last July when he was traded to Detroit for Pudge Rodriguez. Nick Swisher is 3 for 4 with a HR against him.
HAPPY TO BE HERE: Pettitte is 12-3, 3.59 in 20 career starts against the Royals. He is 7-2, 3.34 in 10 starts at Kauffman Stadium.
HE NEEDS HELP FROM HIS COUSIN: Cody Ransom is 1 for 10.
ROCKING ROBBIE: Robinson Cano is 6 of 11 with five runs scored, three RBI, three walks and two extra-base hits. He has yet to strike out. He needed 19 games to draw three walks last season.
Back with more later.
UPDATE, 12:52 p.m.: Jose Guillen is out of the KC lineup with an injury.
UPDATE, 3:59 p.m.: They renovated Kauffman Stadium, dropping $250 million on the place. The outfield, which used to have only fountains and the scoreboard, now has a party deck in right field, a concourse in center and the Royals Hall of Fame in left. There are new club seats behind the plate, a new press box and much wider concourses. It’s really nice.
Here’s a shot of the stadium:
And here’s the view from the press box:
UPDATE, 4:09 p.m: If you want to read more on the Royals, check out Ball Star, Sam Mellinger’s blog for the KC Star. Good stuff on there.
UPDATE, 4:21 p.m.: Nice ceremony here with fans holding banners in the outfield and an assortment of players from previous years. The group included Willie Mays Aikens, Jim Eisenreich, Ed Hearn, Dennis Leonard, John Mayberry, Fred Patek, Jamie Quirk, Joe Randa, Paul Splittorff, John Wathan, Willie Wilson, Frank White and the great Hall of Famer George Brett.
David Cone is here for YES and they didn’t introduce him. They should have. Cone was a prominent Royal in his day.
UPDATE, 4:26 p.m.: Here is Joe Girardi’s pre-game media session:
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UPDATE, 4:29 p.m.: Krazy Kyle Farnsworth got booed when he got introduced. Hilarious. They hate him here, too.
UPDATE, 4:39 p.m.: After a long ceremony, they’re ready to get underway here.
UPDATE, 4:43 p.m.: OK, it’s baseball finally. By the way, download Boom Boom Pow by Black Eyed Peas. Good song. Listening to it all day.
UPDATE, 4:51 p.m.: Sir Sidney got no help from his defense there as Posada’s two-run single should have been handled by Jacobs at 1B. Tex gobbles that up.
Now Cano drills one past Aviles at SS. That’s a 15-game hit streak for Cano.
Yankees up 2-0.
UPDATE, 5:18 p.m.: Pettitte was cruising along until he walked Butler. Then Jacobs had an RBI double that deflected off the glove of Swisher. That ball has to be caught. 2-1 Yankees.
UPDATE, 5:35 p.m: Andy looks pretty sharp through three innings. 3 1 1 1 1 3. Meanwhile the Yankees are letting Sir Sidney settle in a little.
UPDATE, 5:37 p.m.: Another hit for Cano. He’s 8 for 13.
UPDATE, 5:39 p.m.: Swish comes through again with a double to left. 3-1 Yankees.
UPDATE, 5:44 p.m.: Big spot here for Jeter. Single knocks Sir Sid out.
UPDATE, 5:50 p.m.: Sir Sid survives but the Yankees are up 4-1. Pettitte cruising through the fourth, too.
UPDATE, 6:07 p.m.: The Yankees are up 4-1. But they’ve left five men on base, two in scoring position. They have let Ponson off the hook a few times.
UPDATE, 6:29 p.m.: Krazy Kyle pitching for the Royals. Pettitte has been brilliant: 6 3 1 1 1 4. If somebody catches that ball in the second inning, he has a shutout.
UPDATE, 6:36 p.m.: Of course Kyle strikes out the side. How many Yankees do you think just said, “Where was that when we had him?”
UPDATE, 6:58 p.m.: Gee, wouldn’t it be better if Joba Chamberlain used his considerable skills to face Miguel Olivio, Alberto Callaspo and Coco Crisp in a three-run game instead of maybe throwing seven innings on Sunday?
Great job by Pettitte: 7 3 1 1 1 6. 99 pitches / 64 strikes.
Lupica has a great column today on Joba, drunk driving, and Nick Adenhart.
Swish in the lineup!!! Holla!!
And while we certainly never want to celebrate an injury, I’m sure Andy will not miss Jose Guillen today.
Let’s go Yankees!
Francesa has a crush on Santana.
Alright Mike we get it “Santana is better then Sabathia”. How many times is he going to say this? No need to go through career statistics.
Pete, how’s the Kauffman renovation look?
Interesting Girardi is going to Swisher this early after talking up Nady as the starter in the latter half of Spring Training.
Neither has faced Sir Sidney before.
Must just be a case of hoping Swisher stays hot.
I wonder if Nady is injured…
Not that I wish an injury on anyone but glad to see Guillen out he was a total Yankee killer last year
Trevor-Forget Francesa. Adam Schein is going to pop the question soon.
The truth is Sabathia and Santana are both great Cy Young pitchers, and on any given day if they face each other either one could win.
I’ll be blunt and honest here and say good thing Guillen’s out.
Wow that José Guillen contract was a bad idea!
I doubt Nady is injured (hope not, anyway) and I doubt Girardi is abandoning him this early either. He simply can’t not start Swisher after the way he played yesterday. I’m sure Nady will still start against the lefty Ramirez tomorrow.
It’s a delicate balance. Girardi can’t alienate either one of them. To sit Swish today after yesterday would be alienation and so would taking Nady’s starting job permanently after only 3 games. I doubt Girardi is going to do either.
I think it’s not only playing matchups, but giving Nady a breather and staying with the hot bat. I would not be surprised to see Damon or Gardner given a breather over the weekend if Swish continues to be, sweet.
Lupica never has great columns……..I think I’ll take a pass.
SJ, from the previous thread – you’re right. I guess it’s a habit of mine – I can’t stand him (used to love him), but I need something to listen to and I end up turning WFAN on. By posting every thing he says, I suppose I’m giving him credibility. I’ll try to quit cold turkey, lol.
Also, I would love to hear your thoughts on AJ yesterday – I know he threw a lot of pitches, but he was mostly nasty and that Huff K was a thing of beauty. I love the fist-pump, though I find it funny that last year Posada was on the receiving end of that and did not like it one bit, lol.
The POST article seems like a piece of junk and I won’t read it. First off, I don’t care what anyone spends for a house -CC has the $$, he should spend it however he likes. It is definitely not worthy of a blurb, an article or even a sentence in a newspaper.
Sabathia is just starting to come on as far as his career is concerned. He was kind of shaky his first couple of years. But the past 3 years have been very good.
Santana got a head start; he’s a couple years older then CC.
Also I wonder with some of the Santana career early numbers how much is that out of the pen.
Didn’t he come out the pen early in his career? Unless I’m wrong.
…I wonder if nady is injured too i think the yankees should trade nady maybe for real bench outfeilder or another reliever..7 or 8th inning guy you can never have enought arms in the pen i wonder how the new renovations look …pics please pete
just a name to put out there bell from the padres for nady and a bench outfeilder they have so many
Santana is probably the best in the business..but…we have three of the best…Sabathia, Wang and Burnett with Pettitte and Joba pulling up the rear. Every time I see that rotation written out I just can’t believe it. What a difference from last year when we had to piece together the rotation every other week. If someone gets hurt we have Hughes, Aceves and Kennedy waiting in the wings. I am going to love this season…
Go Yankees 2009 !!!
I hope we get something for Nady + Wang in the summer. We got Hughes waiting in the wings and Coke is there in the BP w/ Dunn and DeLaRosa soon to start a hungry yr.
I think Joba is going to be a dominant pitcher with ace-like stuff.
It’s a matter of having another left handed batter by putting Swisher in today.
Don’t trade Wang! He’s won 19 games for us twice with an ERA in the threes (not counting last yr.)!
Pettitie’s becoming a FA, so that’s where we stick Hughes.
>>I hope we get something for Nady + Wang in the summer.<<
Nady’s one thing. BUT WANG??? Man, it is soooo hard to please some people. The guy is an EXCELLENT pitcher. Yeeesh!
CC, Wang, AJ, Joba, Hughes in 2010.
I’m sure Nady is fine
You want to trade WANG?!
And I thought I’d seen it all…
Girardi overthinks too much sometimes.
This time not so much, but my point is that sometimes he gets so concerned with lefty-righty matchups he reconfigures the whole lineup depending on the pitcher. Remember him doing that vs. Santana.
Just let whoever’s playing well play!
GB
The concept of potential and accomplishment shouldn’t be that tough to grasp. Unfortunately it is I guess.
I’d love to get Halladay in a couple years.
He needs help from his cousin! Another vicious slam against Arod! Oh Pete, why do you do it, omigod omigod omigod! Why can’t you leave Britney alone, I mean, leave Arod alone!!!!!!
I suggested last night *on this blog* that Swisher would get the start today! You can look it up. I approve!
Well, Swisher in the line up is an indication of the new Girardi. He’d often bench hot players last year to rest them. Looks like he’s maybe running with them more this year.
All good.
pat
April 10th, 2009 at 3:15 pm
GB
The concept of potential and accomplishment shouldn’t be that tough to grasp. Unfortunately it is I guess.
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I have another example of their problems of distinguishing between potential and accomplishment, but, it’s not worth getting banned over.
“just a name to put out there bell from the padres for nady and a bench outfeilder they have so many”
Bell has at least another season after this one before he hits free agency. Should Nady be traded, he’d be a rental since he hits free agency after this year. Don’t imagine teams would want to trade much for him. Certainly Bell, who is pretty good, and more importlantly in San Diego, dirt cheap, would not be a guy they’re looking forward to moving.
“…I wonder if nady is injured too i think the yankees should trade nady maybe for real bench outfeilder or another reliever”
wait, you want to trade Nady for…..Nady?
how is Nady not a “real bench outfielder”?
if Swish is starting, Nady has to be one of the best 4th OFers in all of baseball.
and why would you trade him for a reliever?
this post makes no sense. sorry, it just doesn’t. not trying to be rude, but some people are so quick to want to dump EVERY player who isn’t hitting .600 that they don’t even think.
Gotta go now. It’s been fun guys.
Betsy.
I just read the article as per Kelly Leak’s post. I too am not a Lupica fan at all but I thought this was a very well done piece. Kind of a shocker actually…
Rebecca.
I saw your post yesterday re: birthday. I believe you said it is tomorrow. Hope you have a great day and if the Yanks win tomorrow I can at least take solace that it was on your birthday.
You must be getting ready to have this semester end!
-dennis
“Well, Swisher in the line up is an indication of the new Girardi. He’d often bench hot players last year to rest them. Looks like he’s maybe running with them more this year.”
i think it’s more an indication that the players last year that he benched at times, Giambi/Matsui/Damon, are all 35 years old or more.
Swisher is 28.
those guys needed to rest. that’s how you get through the season with an old team.
‘You want to trade WANG?!
And I thought I’d seen it all…’
He’s going to be a FA soon and no offense to him I’m not saying he’s bad or anything but we have better options in the minors for the future. Essentially I see CC,AJ,Joba as the sure bets that will stay. Coke will prbly move into the #5 spot when WDR or Dunn reach the majors and Phil Hughes will take the #4.
You got to remember we got kids like Betances, Heredia and Brackman not to mention McCallister and Manny Banuelos who people just don’t know how good that kid is and will learn about him this season. Hey if we can get something for Wang that fills a need in the system or a current need we might have to explore it.
They aren’t trading Wang. There is absolutely no reason to trade him. Hughes replaces Pettitte in 2010.
Dennis: Sunday; my brother’s is tomorrow.
Thanks for the wishes. I really can’t wait for it to end!
Hey I can use some help. I’m still trying to figure out my blackout restrictions on mlb.tv. I’m in nyc, and the last game on YES was blacked out. Are all these yes games blacked out? What can I do if I don’t have cable, to watch them on the computer? I’m using a mac. thanks
If you look at Sabathia and Santana’s careers, Johan is the better pitcher. However, if you look at just the last two years, Sabathia has better numbers. Sabathia is also younger so it could be argued that he has a higher upside going forward.
wood – yes, Wang is an excellent pitcher…and as such, an excellent trade chip.
I’m not ready to get behind trading Wang just yet, though, I want to wait and see what Joba and Hughes do this year. But if both those 2 do show that they’re ready to become rotation staples, I would be surprised if the Yankees didn’t start listening to offers for Wang. It just makes too much sense. Especially if they can get a young SS for him or something. Although I almost think our next SS will have to come from in house otherwise there will be a riot about Jeter moving. But that’s neither here nor there. The point is Wang’s salary is reasonable and we may soon have a surplus of plus players at his position. I love the guy myself, but it’s definitely logical to consider moving him.
Ultimately Swisher or Nady? Me thinks you ride the whose hottest at the moment.
“He’s going to be a FA soon and no offense to him I’m not saying he’s bad or anything but we have better options in the minors for the future. Essentially I see CC,AJ,Joba as the sure bets that will stay. Coke will prbly move into the #5 spot when WDR or Dunn reach the majors and Phil Hughes will take the #4. ”
Brandon, I can’t believe I’m hearing this from you.
Wang’s won 19 games back-to-back seasons before getting hurt. Why the heck would you trade that when we don’t know how the prospects will pan out?
Yeah, I’m looking at you, Homer Bailey.
Dennis
When do you move to the Island?
Curious about your thoughts on Ellsbury and Lowrie.
Never read Lupica aka Mets/Wilpon apologist-extraodinaire, I wouldn’t give him the satisfaction of adding to his circulation numbers & no article he chooses to write about the Yankees can ever be good.
TRADE WANG ….wow when i think i have heard it all i hear this…wang is home grown talents if we trade him then that just proves what everyone say about the yankees they dont keep there own.. he will be the cheapest option for his production for a long long time what they should do is see what its going to take to lock him upp if he ask for a mega deal then u trade him if he can be reasonable then he is worth keeping but trading wang in june would be a big mistake..i still dont trust HUGHES ..NADY is another story he sucks lol
Forget looking for trades in April. Its not happening.
Nady is everybody’s whipping boy on here until Swisher goes 0-10. Then, you will all cry for Nady to be in the lineup.
Fact is, they have depth and have the chance to go with hot hands every once in a while. Why not be patient (3 games is not patience) and see how it plays out.
At the end of the day, both guys will help the Yankees win a lot of games this year.
You don’t trade Nady for “bullpen depth”. They don’t have a problem in the bullpen. If guys don’t get the job done in NY, you have Melancon, Jackson, Tomko, etc waiting in the wings in Scranton.
They have plenty of bullpen depth. They don’t have great OF depth. Which is why you don’t trade Nady.
Betsy,
AJ gave them everything they needed yesterday. If he didn’t get squeezed by Mike Winters (HP umpire) on about 8 pitches, costing him a run and 20 more pitches thrown, he would have thrown an easy 7 innings.
One reason why some of us were trying to calm down the chicken littles is, when you have the rotation the Yankees have, its pretty darn difficult to have long losing streaks.
Too many good arms, all of whom can dominate an opponent on a given day/night.
Its why, when things get rolling, this is going to be a very tough team to beat this year. Good health permitting, of course.
‘They aren’t trading Wang. There is absolutely no reason to trade him. Hughes replaces Pettitte in 2010.’
GB do you see Wang being a longterm Yankee ? I would think w/ the depth they might shore up another spot of need for the future. BTW Nunez is off to a hot start in minor league ball
…back to what we are talking about someone is going to lose thier job in that starting staff and right now I see CC/AJ/Joba as sure bets w/ Wang on the fence not in ability but in what they want to do w/ him contract + organization wise.
“curious
April 10th, 2009 at 3:18 pm
”…I wonder if nady is injured too i think the yankees should trade nady maybe for real bench outfeilder or another reliever”
wait, you want to trade Nady for…..Nady?”
That whole post(the one to which you were responding) made my head hurt. Trading Nady for Heath Bell? Yikes.
jonnycat: If you’re in market, like NYC is for the Yankees, you are automatically blacked out since it’s assumed you can get it on regular tv.
Your best option is gameday audio, which does not have blackout restrictions (at least, not that I can recall)
Santana is the best pitcher in baseball…. I don’t think Mike was trying to slight CC.
Unfortunately, Santana is right across town and will always be compared to our pitchers.
People think it’s crazy but I can see Wang being traded in the future.
Sure it’s crazy to do that now. and that won’t happen. but what others have been saying there’s going to be younger less expensive pitchers coming up the next couple years.
Also it’s not like Wang is 22. He came up at an older age (25) is 30 already.
GB
If you didn’t use words I couldn’t say in front of my 6 year old, I wouldn’t ban you. Others however only seem to have a sense of humor about what they think is funny.
“Yeah, I’m looking at you, Homer Bailey.”
DEAR ,
KEVIN LONG
PLEASE WORK WIT NADY ON THAT BIG SWING ITS NOT WORKING…
I think CC will have a great game tomorrow.
I’m not worried about him.
‘Brandon, I can’t believe I’m hearing this from you.
Wang’s won 19 games back-to-back seasons before getting hurt. Why the heck would you trade that when we don’t know how the prospects will pan out?
Yeah, I’m looking at you, Homer Bailey.’
Well then your telling me McCallister/Betances or Banuelos is getting dealt and IMO they will be better than him because they are swing and miss guys that can over power you.
Still curious why Wang is so underappreciated. He won 19 games in back to back seasons. He was on pace for that last year before he got injured. Is it because he’s not a strikeout pitcher? Because he’s not a vocal leader in the clubhouse? Please, someone explain this to me.
Over the last 6-7 years Santana is the best. Over the last 2? Not the best.
Brandon has had a cruel anti-Wang bias from day one. It’s sad but true.
Wang for Matt Kemp? Cameron Maybin? Jay Bruce?
McAllister isn’t really a swing and miss guy, Betances won’t be ready when Wang is an FA.
It is too early to predict if Wang will be signed long-term or not. The Yankees have great pitching depth but not much in the higher levels of the system.
I should have said “not many high ceiling starting pitchers in the higher levels of the system”
Wang is underappreciated cause he’s not a strikeout pitcher #1, when he’s having an off day he’s horrendous #2 & #3 fans will never forget his back to back failed postseason performances of 2007.
So even with 19 wins back to back and most likely a 3rd season of 10+ wins had he not gotten hurt…he will never be revered. At least not in Yankeeland.
“Still curious why Wang is so underappreciated.”
He doesn’t blast music in the clubhouse, do forearm smashes in the dugout or give a quote a minute that gets the fan base fired up. In other words, he’s not a pinstriped party, he’s just a pitcher.
So what if Andy pulls a Moose, thats possible, what does one do with a 20 game winner? Andy could have 3-4 good solid years left, maybe not, just wondering.
Hey Rebecca,
thanks for the scoop. yeah, i have the gameday audio but i’d rather just listen on 880. I guess i’m a sucked who paid for the service for no reason. And i’m still screwed out of watching games live ;(
Davis: Those teams won’t part with Kemp, Maybin and especially not Bruce. They are all potential franchise players, especially Bruce.
I’m a major Wang supporter but I’ve stopped trying to get others to appreciate him. As long as he continues to post the Ws, whether he’s a Yankee or not I will be supporting CMW.
Damn! Miguel Cabrera is one nasty customer. Homer and 6 RBI today. Hitting .611 so far.
Turns 26 in a week.
MaineYankee.
We are going to leave Savannah May 8th. We drive up as we stay 6 months and we refuse to fly our Golden Retriever Samantha. We always time it so we go through DC and NY on Sat-Sun. We will should be on the Great Diamond Ferry at 5:00 on Sun eve.
Re: Lowrie/Ellsbury. I am not sold on Lowrie at all. Average shortsop at best defensively and has not proven anything offensively. He had a torrid spring however in 11 AB’s he has 6k’s to start the season. Ellsbury I flip flop on him all the time. There are times I believe he has a high ceiling and other times I think he is over rated. He can fly and play defense but you need more production from CF IMO.
Hope you are well.
-dennis
‘Brandon has had a cruel anti-Wang bias from day one. It’s sad but true.’
No I don’t, I give him his props, but if his sinker isn’t sinking we’re sunk. I look at him as a Derek Lowe he’s solid but if a team wants to part big prospects for him or a big not in his primes star and very promising, what say you if Colorado asks for him and offers Tulo or Fowler, you’d have to think hard.
Brandon,
You don’t trade Wang because of guys that are in A or AA. Even Phil Hughes hasn’t proven anything yet.
ALL of these prospects are unproven. Especially the guys below AAA.
In a perfect world, they all make it and the Yankees have amazing pitching depth in their system. However, its pretty unrealistic to expect that because stuff happens to prospects on their way to stardom.
We learned that last year with Hughes and Kennedy, didn’t we?
You don’t trade proven for unproven.
If you trade a guy like Wang, its for a known commodity.
Not some bullpen stiff or a spare OF. You trade him for a proven entity like a Halliday or someone like that because that’s how his performance has stacked up over the last 3 1/2 years.
Personally, I’d keep Wang because he is the perfect compliment between CC and AJ.
At some point, folks have to realize its not a video game. You don’t just trade players on whims. They are fantasy deals that will never materialize and then you will all throw fits and rip Cashman for not doing these fantasy deals.
Once Wang gets it going, and he will, all the off the wall trade talk ends on here.
In the meantime, we will all hear what he “can’t” do, instead of focusing on what he has done in his career.
Well, unless all our young arms are total busts, *someone’s* gonna hafta get dealt. all some of us are saying is Wang would be attractive to many teams and would bring back a nice package of young talent. How does that equal underappreciating him? Personally, I appreciate Wang greatly and cannot even imagine how irrelevant the Yankees would have been since 2005, or 06 at the latest if not for him. But that doesn’t mean he’s gonna be a Yankee for the rest of his career, does it? And if the Yankees know they’re not gonna retain him when he becomes a FA, why not get something for him that’s better than the compensatory draft pick he would net w/an arb offer? The talent Wang would fetch in a trade > the 1st rounder and sandwich pick.
And, does anyone honestly believe the Yankees are gonna sign Wang to a FA contract in 2 years or whatever it is? I know I don’t, not w/all the young arms and AJ and CC under contract. So why is it so illogical to trade him sometime before then?
Betsy
Lupica never has great columns……..I think I’ll take a pass.
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Amen.
Lets have some fun..
My predictions.
Pettite 7 innings 3 runs 2 walks 5k’s
Cano and tex go yard today.
Becca,
Just in case im not in here this weekend. Happy B-day sunday. I think SJ and boston dave is somewhere close to our day as well. So happy b-day to all those sharp and smart Aries.
“Wang for Matt Kemp? Cameron Maybin? Jay Bruce?”
Not in a million years.
If the reason why Wang will “never be revered” is his playoff performance, how do you explain CC? He’s had some horrendous playoff starts.
jonnycat: Yeah. I buy an mlb.tv subscription so I can watch sox games at the end of the season and because last year my friend would come over and he’d watch the sox on my computer while I’d watch the Yankees on tv (we’ve both graduated since).
Now I get it and I share it with my brother, who’s at school in Fla, so he can watch the games.
You can listen to the away team feed on Gameday audio.
I-Brandon (I LOVE ME SOME ME !)
April 10th, 2009 at 3:25 pm
‘They aren’t trading Wang. There is absolutely no reason to trade him. Hughes replaces Pettitte in 2010.’
GB do you see Wang being a longterm Yankee ? I would think w/ the depth they might shore up another spot of need for the future. BTW Nunez is off to a hot start in minor league ball
…back to what we are talking about someone is going to lose thier job in that starting staff and right now I see CC/AJ/Joba as sure bets w/ Wang on the fence not in ability but in what they want to do w/ him contract + organization wise.
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The Yanks have two years to decide on whether Chamberlain can hold up to the rigors of starting. If he can, they’ll have decisions to make. If he can’t, then, having wang pitching for NYY can only mean good things. They’ll have young players filtering in and out of the bullpen for years. As of right now, there isn’t a player that NYY needs or can get without trading off the best of their farm to add to Wang that would be worth the deal.
I’d love to see Granderson playing center field for the Yanks, but, that’s not happening. Neither is Hanley Ramirez.
SJ44
Nady is everybody’s whipping boy on here until Swisher goes 0-10. Then, you will all cry for Nady to be in the lineup.
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Oh please, stop the nonsense, and stop being so condescending.
People who understand OBP know why Swisher should start.
I should stipulate, I don’t trade Wang until/unless Joba pitches a full season with great results and Hughes forcibly takes a rotation spot and performs well in it for a stretch. If both Hughes and Joba prove to be front of the rotation staples, THEN I take the gamble that one of our other young arms can hold down the last rotation spot. So any move concerning Wang would be at least a year away in my book.
“if his sinker isn’t sinking we’re sunk. ”
As opposed to all the other pitchers we have who always win their games even if their pitches aren’t working?
Ponson pitched in almost the same amount of games that Pavano did, in a shorter period of time.
I would definitely trade Wang if the price is right. I think the Yankees may just do that.
Kim Jones just confirmed Swish gets the start due to him having the hot hand.
S.o.S.: Thanks! Can’t believe it’s 23 already…I feel like I just turned 21!
Santana lost a number of wins last year because of an awfull bullpen.
The last year with Minn. they gave up the season at the allstar break by trading some players. That is what made Hunter leave and Santana not want to resign with them. Really caused alot of problems with players feeling like the team didn’t care about winning.
pat
April 10th, 2009 at 3:26 pm
GB
If you didn’t use words I couldn’t say in front of my 6 year old, I wouldn’t ban you. Others however only seem to have a sense of humor about what they think is funny.
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They were words that I wouldn’t have used in front of my brother and he’s retired Special Forces, too. He makes me seem like a choir boy in comparison.
And I would target a guy like JJ Hardy in return, btw.
“People who understand OBP know why Swisher should start.”
You better have faith in Ransom and Gardner’s RBI ability then.
“most likely a 3rd season of 10+ wins had he not gotten hurt”?
He had 8 wins before the All-Star break.
“all some of us are saying is Wang would be attractive to many teams and would bring back a nice package of young talent.”
Not sure that’s the case. He’d bring something. Don’t think it’s the quality you seem to believe though. Wang is on the cusp of two things that are getting more and more taboo these days: 1) 30 years old 2) making real money
High end, inexpensive talent is at an all time premium around baseball. What’s Wang get you? Consider the Santana package. It’d be considerably less than that.
pat – From where I’m sitting, having Ransom and Gardner at the bottom of the order is even more reason why Swisher needs to be in the lineup. He’ll compensate for all the pitches the aforementioned gruseome twosome won’t see. Nady wouldn’t. He probably takes around the same amount of pitches Ransom does. With ARod out, Swish and Matsui are both needed as much as possible over Nady to stretch the lineup.
dl –
Ah, but CC hasn’t blown the YANKEES chances in the postseason has he, if he does (let’s pray NOT!) the masses will be calling for his head too. But since CC is a strikeout pitcher, when he goes down, he’ll go down looking like he’s giving his very all as opposed to a sinkerball pitcher who can’t when he can’t get his balls to sink will only look lazy and not a true GAMER and therefore never a “true Ace.”
BBB, Hardy isn’t that good …
Just heard Kim give each players stats vs Ponson we should knock him out in 3 innings.
There is more to baseball than OBP.
Its the problem with quoting stats. Often, those who do get excited about one stat, beat it death, and believe its the be all end all to one’s PT. It isn’t.
There is more to evaluating a player and his value than OBP. Its one part of the evaluation, not the only part.
There isn’t a scout in baseball who looks at OBP and uses that as the sole, or even primary, determination of a players value. You look at the overall player and what he brings to the table. Not just one stat.
If scouts don’t do it, I put no value to fans doing it.
BBB,
If they trade anybody, it may be the guys in the system if they pan out for a high end SS, for example.
I say this because in today’s economy, there are fewer teams willing to take on money. Which makes Wang less attractive to teams and high end prospects more attractive.
That’s the difficulty for Cashman when determining what to do in certain situations.
GB
Oops. Thought you were working the angle of the difference between potential and acomplishment when it came to a certain media member. Nevermind.
Francessa will take one thought, and expound on it ad nauseum. He’s intolerable w/the incessant harping on one specific point (even repeating the same phrase for the enire show, as if he believes he’s created the next meme).
becca,
I wish i was turning 23. No gray hairs at an early age. No muscle or joint pains gettin out of bed. I am unfortunately now in the category of mid 30′s. Enjoy it while you can my youngin.
Oh damn, when Kim said that AJ tried to run the steps in the rain, I thought he slipped. Geez someone tell her not to do that!
Jeter in LF-
How dare you contradict a sage!
pat
You better have faith in Ransom and Gardner’s RBI ability then.
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You are neglecting the potency of sample size.
It exists with the Swisher/Nady comparison, not with Ransom/Gardner.
Your posts are decent on balance. You should know the difference.
You don’t trade a Wang unless you can get a Dolce or a Gucci in return.
SJ44,
Even if you don’t concentrate on one stat, Swisher is the better overall player. More power, more patience at the plate, grinds out his at-bats, significantly better fielder and he’s done it all on a more consistent basis than Nady.
All that said, I don’t mind that Nady is the starter right now. The cream will rise to the top and the better player will start eventually. If that ends up being Swisher, great! If not, I don’t care as long as the yanks win.
S.o.S.: Most exciting thing in my life right now isn’t actually happening to me…
Is it raining in KC?
Very happy to see Flaherty and Cone in the booth. Less hysteria opportunities for Kay.
Kelly Leak
Jeter in LF-
How dare you contradict a sage!
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I don’t know about sages, Kelly, but you disappointed me yesterday when you questioned Boras’s obvious sincerity over the loss of Adenhart.
So you see, I’ll call anyone on something that I think is wrong.
People can do he same with me.
Scorpio – true. I just think that part of the reason why Wang isn’t as respected as he should be is because he isn’t flashy and doesn’t pump his fist.
And I think his use of the word “lazy” wasn’t exactly what he meant. Not sure if this has already been discussed before, so I apologize if this has already been covered, but I didn’t take “lazy” to mean that he wasn’t working/trying hard in the Cano-sian sense. Just that it was a mechanical thing where he really has to concentrate on his arm and he just couldn’t make the adjustment in the middle of the game.
Dennis
Hopefully it will have warmed up by then.
Still a bit cool here now.
I agree with your take on those two. Lowrie seems like more of a utility type. Your other option isn’t to good though(Lugo). It looks like pitchers have found Ellsbury’s weak spot(inside fastball).
SJ/GB or anyone else. How long do we stay with Ransom before you would try Pena at the hot corner? He seems a step slow at third and is obviously not hitting. So if he cant hit. Might as well throw a better glove out there.
Thoughts?
The Royals look like they did a decent job with the renovations. They’re the only team with a jumbo-tron bigger then the Yankees. Still the park looks like it’s in the middle of no where.
Uh oh. My boy Brandon is starting some early season prospect hugging.
Trade Wang because McCallister and Betances are better than him?
Maybe in 5 years. Maybe never. In that time Wang will be in his mid 30′s.
How about we try winning at the major league level for a few seasons before blowing it up for the A ball prospects.
BBB i agree with you fully the yankees should not trade Wang until we know how Joba and Hughes will pan out, its simple as that…
pat
April 10th, 2009 at 3:42 pm
GB
Oops. Thought you were working the angle of the difference between potential and acomplishment when it came to a certain media member. Nevermind.
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When you have a target on your forehead, you gotta be careful. My computer isn’t big enough to hold all of the “you have no class”, “you are my hero…did they teach you that in the military” emails. About 10 more and I can print them and wallpaper my house.
“People can do he same with me.”
Your whole identity is wrong. Moving Jeter to LF would be a terrible idea right now. Damon is already a good LF – his offense and defense are both above average for LF. Jeter provides the highest value while playing SS.
wow they improved this place. Now seats where the fountains were and a concourse behind it.
Patrick,
I’m not saying Swisher may not be the better overall player. Personally, I think both guys bring things to the table the Yankees need. I also think, if used properly, you can get the maximum out of each guy without overplaying them and exposing their weaknesses.
Nady is a productive player. A much better player than folks on here want to give him credit for being. The difference between the two guys really comes down to patience at the plate.
That said, if both guys combined for 700 AB’s this year, I think the Yankees are a better team than if either guy got 600 AB’s and the other got 100.
I think if Ransom has another 0-fer tonight, Pena gets the start at 3rd tomorrow.
S.o.S.
April 10th, 2009 at 3:46 pm
SJ/GB or anyone else. How long do we stay with Ransom before you would try Pena at the hot corner? He seems a step slow at third and is obviously not hitting. So if he cant hit. Might as well throw a better glove out there.
Thoughts?
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As long as he doesn’t start costing them games, or about 10 games, if he continues not hitting.
dont listen to anything I write. I am not very intelligent.
they got rid of the fountains? i always thought KC had one of the nicer not-new stadiums…
doesn’t the fact that Swisher is playing today kindof “kill” the controversy?
some of you guys seem to be afraid that Girardi won’t play the guy who is playing better, and just had a favorite. in fact, a few weeks ago that’s what everyone was complaining about. that Girardi was biased towards Nady b/c of last year.
well, Nady had a much better Spring. so, he got the first series. Swisher looked great yesterday, so now he gets a shot.
when a lefty is on the mound, they’ll probably both play.
there is so much hysteria over nothing. Girardi is going to get them both plenty of ABs.
it’s in the yankees’ best interest for Nady to get ABs and for him to play well. if he does, he becomes a potential trade piece or a Type A free agent. it is also in their best interest for Swisher to play and play well, since he is the only corner OFer signed past this season.
you guys need to have a little faith in Girardi. he’s kicking ass so far this year.
on TV at least…
saucy, no the seats were built around it.
“Nady is a productive player. A much better player than folks on here want to give him credit for being. The difference between the two guys really comes down to patience at the plate.
That said, if both guys combined for 700 AB’s this year, I think the Yankees are a better team than if either guy got 600 AB’s and the other got 100.”
So basically, the best thing they can do is ride the hot bat.
Jose Guillen on the dl.
RE: Swisher and Nady.
Darn good promblems to have in Yankee land. The Yanks are so much deeper than last year in every way. You lose two in a row and come back with AJ who has as nasty as stuff as anyone in MLB. The Yanks now start a series with AP and Joba and the the rotaion turns over again. If healthy over the long haul that will prove out to win 95+ games IMO and have a less wear on the BP headed into the PS. The Sox have lost two in a row and come back with Wake and Brad Penny….Not that comforting as a Sox fan.
The Yanks are as deep in every facet than they have been in a decade IMO.
-dennis
I’m hardly a sage. I’m also not a moron. Unfortunately, with some of your posts, particularly the Boras one from yesterday, you’ve proven to be one so, I won’t waste my time debating with you.
G love,
Exactly. Let’s let the prospects be prospects for awhile before annointing them as the “next” anything.
This ain’t The Marlins. Its pretty darn tough for prospects to make it with the Yankees. We saw that last year with Hughes and Kennedy.
In a perfect world, I’d love to see them gain enough depth in the system to deal from strength in another year or two. Right now, at least IMO, they don’t have the depth in the system to deal from strength right now.
I like the team as is, especially until Arod gets back. I’d just play it out and see how it goes.
SOS, I think you give Ransom 12 games and then evaluate him from there. If he’s 5-48, and butchering third base, you give Pena a shot.
I think 12 games is a better indication of whether he can hold the fort down until ARod returns than just 3 games or a weeks worth of action.
thanks jennifer!
I know it’s gonna sound weird, but I think José Guillen on the DL could end up being a good thing for the Royals…
sorry for a coulpe of typos.
Patrick
Your whole identity is wrong. Moving Jeter to LF would be a terrible idea right now. Damon is already a good LF – his offense and defense are both above average for LF. Jeter provides the highest value while playing SS.
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I don’t want to do it right now.
I just want the thought process of moving Jeter to begin so that a plan is in place for a replacement by 2011 (if not 2010), the season after his current contract is up.
“couple”. OK I need to slow down. Enjoy the game. I will read but not comment as things get a little tense during the game threads.
Have a good weekend.
-dennis
Rebecca,
Yup. Ride the hot hand and see how it goes. Both guys have proven to be streaky players in their careers. I’d try and ride hot streaks for each as long as I can and (if possible) minimize their cold streaks.
I also buy into the belief that the Yankees have to try and get Nady to Type A FA status this year. That benefits the franchise in the long run.
I think there is going to be enough PT for both guys. Especially with the tenuous health of Matsui.
I’d just ride it out as long as I can and hope it can work out through the season. After the season, we know Nady will be gone and Swisher will still be here. If I was Nick, that’s one reason not to rock the boat. Which, BTW, I don’t think he will this year.
“sorry for a coulpe of typos.”
when you are complimenting the yankees, feel free to make as many as you like
“Trade Wang because McCallister and Betances are better than him?
Maybe in 5 years. Maybe never. In that time Wang will be in his mid 30’s.
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WHO THE …… said that ! All I said is if we can get something for him we might want to do it. Wang for all the talk that no one appreciates him is a bunch of BS, he had two bad starts in the playoffs, he’s nearing a big pay day and you have depth in the system, we KNOW, WE KNOW he’s a 19 game winner, it’s likely either he’s dealt or the guys down in the system will be. And as much love as he gets the fact is Banuelos/McCallister or Betances at thier age Wang wasn’t as good as they are, it’s not like these are soft tossers w/o potential that I’m talking about, they legitmately if dealt can be # 2 or 3 types that’s something the organization will think about. Or how about if they move Coke into the rotation ? they are definitely thinking about that.
Jeter in LF- April 10th, 2009 at 3:52 pm
dont listen to anything I write. I am not very intelligent.
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The internet’s gutless wonder: Someone posting under another person’s user name because they lack the guts to debate.
what if we move arod back to short and jeter to third after this year??? tough to hide jeter but i think that might help. dont need range as much at third base.
miguel cabrera is a beast!
Jeter in LF
I didn’t even get into the Nady/Swisher debate. Just tired of seeing OBP being the end all to some people. It’s more about balance to me.
“That said, if both guys combined for 700 AB’s this year, I think the Yankees are a better team than if either guy got 600 AB’s and the other got 100.”
I’m not sure I agree. I simply think Swisher is better. We’ll see though. We aren’t just talking about AB’s, Swisher will also save more runs in the field than Nady.
“A lot of times you run into players that are tremendously gifted, but that’s it,” Cashman said. “He’s like a David Cone. David Cone was a gifted athlete, but he was also smart at the same time. He got everything . . . and that’s the way Tex is.
“I remember telling ownership this is a guy that is the all-around, All-American- type boy that he is talented but he will never make a mistake with the media with a soundbite. He’ll always represent himself and the organization in the right way. If you could take them all like that, that’s the way you would want them.”
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that’s interesting… is that a subtle dig on Arod?
Why is the Yankee pregame still on? WTF?
Rebecca-Optimist Prime..staying to write the story
April 10th, 2009 at 3:57 pm
I know it’s gonna sound weird, but I think José Guillen on the DL could end up being a good thing for the Royals…
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Definately good news for Pettitte. Now, if the can get Gardner to low-crawl over to the KC bench and tie Butler’s, Gordon’s, Availa’s and Dejesus’ shoestrings together in knots, I’d feel good about today.
Ok Jeter in LF, I wasn’t trying to tear you down, just wanted to spark a little debate. It is reasonable to want Jeter in LF after his contract runs out. I think its still too early to say, if Jeter fields like he did last year then he’s fine at SS as far as I’m concerned.
dan aka god
April 10th, 2009 at 4:01 pm
what if we move arod back to short and jeter to third after this year??? tough to hide jeter but i think that might help. dont need range as much at third base
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Arod would get struck by lightning if he ever step foot on short. Not on Jeter’s watch.
What time does this damn game start ?!
pat
I didn’t even get into the Nady/Swisher debate. Just tired of seeing OBP being the end all to some people. It’s more about balance to me.
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That’s fine, but the usual point of statistical comparison is AVG, and I think OBP is a far better predictor of the ability to contribute to scoring runs than that.
Well, if the fakes on now on board, that’s it for me. Enjoy the game everybody and have a safe Holiday weekend.
I like sushi
Game starts 4:10. I guess YES doesn’t want to show the player intro’s.
Gb, Did you get a chance to see Brackman last night?
I ready for a win today>>>
Royals are probably doing opening ceremonies. That outfield looks awesome Pete, wish I was on the party deck right now.
yea but jeter needs to swallow his ego (which has never been challenged) cause in a year or two a yankees contract will be a charity donation for jeter. he is a bad defensive shortstop and once his offensive number dominish well just be paying him for his past not his present.
swallow your pride jeter – our best shortstop plays third base
Two bad starts in the playoffs.
Wow, you guys are harsh.
Is anyone else listening on Gameday audio – are they streaming yet? Usually they start the audio a few minutes before game time, no? but I’m not getting anything.
Patrick
Ok Jeter in LF, I wasn’t trying to tear you down, just wanted to spark a little debate. It is reasonable to want Jeter in LF after his contract runs out. I think its still too early to say, if Jeter fields like he did last year then he’s fine at SS as far as I’m concerned.
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I agree that by observation and most fielding metrics, Jeter’s defense was at least average last season, which is good enough as long as he hits like he has for most of his career, and not like he did last season (which was probably attributable to the HBP by Cabrera).
I’m skeptical that he can continue to do that, but I love being wrong as long as the Yankees win.
They Royals having some sort of opening game ceremonies? Hurry up
pat what i always forget is walks dont drive in runs. maybe i shouldnt put too much bread in that basket
Tom in NJ
April 10th, 2009 at 4:04 pm
Gb, Did you get a chance to see Brackman last night?
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No, sorry to say, I won’t get out much until it warms up. Right now, I catch too many colds and not a lot of ability to fight it off. I’m hoping by May, I can start going to the games.
Yeah I agree with that Jeter in LF. I’m not sure if Jeter can keep it up either but I’m ever the optimist
Hopefully Jetes can bounce back on offense, that’s where we really need him.
whoa, didn’t even realize it was (supposed to be) a 4:10 game.
time to bug my boss about getting out early for the holiday weekend!
nice pics of their renovations, nice ballpark but the setting is too rural for my taste; link to Sterling online if anyone needs it, thanks to whoever posted it yesterday’s thread
http://stream2.wtsnam1270.com/
‘That’s fine, but the usual point of statistical comparison is AVG, and I think OBP is a far better predictor of the ability to contribute to scoring runs than that.’
Alot of things contribute to a far better predictor, definitely OBP % is a huge factor so is AVG, last yr. Swish’s AVG was horrendous, his LD % was good, his BABIP was tearful and people say Ozzie Guillen and him had a horrible relationship that contributed to him playing so badly, I think Kevin Long is the exact guy for him and hopefully he keeps the AVG/OBP and doesn’t worry about SLG so much. He’s better than Nady in RF and in batting but that’s just my opinion.
Jeter in LF- April 10th, 2009 at 4:06 pm
pat what i always forget is walks dont drive in runs. maybe i shouldnt put too much bread in that basket
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Fake posters = losers and cowards.
I realize that you want to be like me, but you can’t. Sorry.
Thanks for the Kauffman pic, Pete.
I was there on a 100 degree summer day sbout 10 years ago. The OF fountains looked like a mirage in the desert that day.
At no point this season will we hear the words “journeyman pitcher” referencing a Yankee starter taking the mound. That is the biggest blessing last off-season brought (or bought, if you will).
You can see the intro on the YES bonus cam. If anyone cares.
why dont we use the 2 stats that contribute directly to winning games rather then stats that lead to these two stats: runs and rbis??? arnt those the two most important stats??
I really don’t understand all the talk off all the lineup changes. Last year people were all over Joe for not keeping the same lineup.
As far as trading players I think it would be wise to wait till some of those players develop aned then trade from a position of strength. That is part of the reason Tampa has a good team.
They Royals radio broadcasters just said that Kaufman Stadium’s HD screen is bigger than the one in NYS.
Hey pete, you look good sitting next to the skipper, its on YES right now
mlb.com says its delayed. Anyone know when there going to start the game?
BTW,
Has there ever been an evenly split arguement of who should start, having one player that hit .220 last year vs. another that hit over .280?
nice interview Pete
Good seat Pete!
dan aka god
why dont we use the 2 stats that contribute directly to winning games rather then stats that lead to these two stats: runs and rbis??? arnt those the two most important stats??
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Because you cant’ score runs unless you get on base. That’s why I like OBP.
Fake Jeter in LF
But it does give you a nice view of the 3rd out while you’re standing on 1st base.
‘They Royals radio broadcasters just said that Kaufman Stadium’s HD screen is bigger than the one in NYS.’
Ours has better visual and pixels.
Brandon: you just loooooove those can’t-miss prospects, admit it.
This is a must-sweep weekend for the Yanks or the Girardi watch begins in earnest. Cashman might not be safe either, he built this monster. Sweep or die!
yea but obp doesnt drive in runs.
pete on yes asking some really tough questions
Pete is on TV talkin to Girardi
And I thought the screen at YS was big…
I thought OBP was always the most important stat.
“I really don’t understand all the talk off all the lineup changes. Last year people were all over Joe for not keeping the same lineup.”
Not entirely true. Were you ever in here when the lineups first came out? The first 50 posts were “why the hell is Giambi batting fifth!!!”.
the triple crown should be OBP BABIP and LD% their the only stats that matter!!!!
‘They Royals radio broadcasters just said that Kaufman Stadium’s HD screen is bigger than the one in NYS.’
Ours has better visual and pixels.
I wonder if Sherman will knock those free spending KC Royals.
dan,
Using RBI and runs to evaluate a player is pretty silly. Those stats are dependent on others. There are a lot better stats out there to evaluate a player’s individual contribution.
Has the game started yet? I’m trying to listen to it through MLB at Bat on the iPhone but I keep getting connection errors even though other games work fine.
BLONDE MOMENT ALERT:
I love Kim Jones holding the mic at Girardi’s mouth while she’s jibber jabbering her questions at him.
Am I being presumptious in wondering that her talents lie elsewhere?
Why is the start of the game delayed?? Its sunny in KC!
According to Lonn Trost the Yankees have the sharpest big screen TV “in the world”.
Just use OPS+.
Problem solved
Why is the start of the game delayed?? Its sunny!
MY MLB Game Day Audio isn’t giving me error messages for this game, both home and away feeds. All other games currently being played are okay though. WTF???
yea patrick obviously. but if you use a larger sample like a couple of seasons its a pretty good depicition. people dont make the allstar team based on avg and obp…
Don’t these ceremonies usually take place BEFORE the scheduled first pitch?
C’mon, I have plans tonight. Play ball!
“Why is the start of the game delayed?? Its sunny in KC!”
Opening Day ceremony
game has not started yet
Jeter in LF- April 10th, 2009 at 4:17 pm
the triple crown should be OBP BABIP and LD% their the only stats that matter!!!!
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I’ll translate this code. I have no life and no personality so I pose as other posters to compensate for my deep seated insecurities.
In real life, I’d run in the other direction from even women who confront me.
“yea patrick obviously. but if you use a larger sample like a couple of seasons its a pretty good depicition.”
Not really brah
“people dont make the allstar team based on avg and obp…”
People use avg to determine all-stars, OBP isn’t but it should be considered more.
The best one game Major League career in history.
http://www.baseball-reference......jo01.shtml
hahaha tough to say that jeter when were all sitting on a blog debating the yankees…. its like the pot calling the kettle black dont you think???
Wow, the Royals hurt the look of Kauffman with renovations. It used to have the well manicured grass in the outfield-with the fountains it was a clean, sharp look, reminiscent of spring training. But I guess business is business. 40 year old park that still looks great.
goodness gracious – what the heck are they doing for the ceremonies that is running so late. Play ball already.
“‘They Royals radio broadcasters just said that Kaufman Stadium’s HD screen is bigger than the one in NYS.’”
have they seen the new one in YS first? sooo much bigger in person than it seems in pictures…
they have high school bands on the field now performing…..why did they say 4:10 first pitch, probably at least 10 more minutes till first pitch
anyone else having trouble getting gameday audio to work? been trying for 1/2 hour..
Audio feed is now working
RBI’s are overrated. Get over it.
I’m sorry the Yankee’s screen is bigger, and clearer. Not a knock on KC. But it is true.
dan aka god
hahaha tough to say that jeter when were all sitting on a blog debating the yankees…. its like the pot calling the kettle black dont you think???
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Here’s the difference. If you stick to one user name and you say something stupid, you can be held to account for your stupidity and be forced to defend it.
So while you’re right that there are limitations, it takes far more guts to do that than to hide under someone else user name.
I wonder if they’ll introduce the people working the concession stands too
Henry – where is your feed working? Gameday audio still not up.
Brandon – What do you think the Yankees could land if they dealt Wang TODAY?
Note: Only teams that are competitive would deal for him.
The Cardinals would drool over him, but no way would they deal Colby Rasmus (the only guy worth trading Wang for, IMO – he’s better than Austin Jackson).
All top prospects would pretty much be off the board: No Wieters (duh), Maybin, Fowler, etc.
Just trying to figure out what, exactly, you think the Yankees could get for him?
I want baseball NOW!!
Who cares what size the video screens are?
“he best one game Major League career in history.”
ha. he even has a 1.000 fieldint % at 2 different positions…
*fielding*
That’s interesting GB –
I remember his brother playing in the bigs – Tom Paciorek.
Haha it is clearly dana aka dog impersonating you Jeter. What a joke.
KC screen is bigger but it’s not sharper.
Yankees currently have the second largest board. Next year they’ll have the third largest. because the Twins new park is going to have a bigger screen then the Yankees.
Lori – I’m using the MLB at Bat app on my iPhone, listening to the Yanks feed
whatever helps you sleep buddy…
go yankees
GB,
3 FOR 3. Whats his story? What happened to him? I couldnt find it on that site.
It takes a tough man to make a tender chicken.
“RBI’s are overrated. Get over it.”
I love OBP as much as anyone, but there DOES come a point where high OBP with low contact % is bad. SOMEONE needs to actually drive in the runs. Thus, I think there does come a point where Player A has BA = A and OBP = B, and Player B has BA = A – X and OBP = B + Y, and Player A is ‘better’. I just don’t know what A, B, X, and Y are
In case this was keeping you up at night….Pedroia says he never called Alex a dork and was misquoted or taken out of context throughout the story written in Boston Magazine where he called his hometown a dump.
Hmmm…only able to get audio in Spanish. Sounds more insightful than Sterling and K, but I don’t understand a word of it…Any suggestions?
‘Just trying to figure out what, exactly, you think the Yankees could get for him?’
I never said now. Ofcourse not now but midseason I’d think about it.
Jen, I’m late on this, but what did Kim say about AJ? Is he ok? Did he try to run the steps in Kaufman Stadium in the rain? AJ, not good -not, not good.
saucY
April 10th, 2009 at 4:28 pm
“he best one game Major League career in history.”
ha. he even has a 1.000 fieldint % at 2 different positions…
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Nah. He played the entire game in right field. He really was one of the great high school talents to come out of Michigan at that time. He was miles ahead of his brother, Tom Paciorek. He tore up his back during ST in ’64 and never played again. Finished at age 19.
Patrick
Haha it is clearly dana aka dog impersonating you Jeter. What a joke.
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+1
“Hmmm…only able to get audio in Spanish. Sounds more insightful than Sterling and K, but I don’t understand a word of it…Any suggestions?”
go to babelfish.com and type like a #!^&%…
This is the longest opening ceremony ever I WANT BASEBALL!!
Ok this is brutal don’t tell me 4:10 start and have me wait 25 + mins for the 1st pitch !
Thanks Saucy — I might try that on Sterling home run calls, too!
betsy- She said that AJ tried to run the steps at Kaufman but it was raining so he ran them inside. But her delivery made me think he started to, but slipped than went inside.
Mid-season of THIS season? Trade Wang? Have you completely lost the plot???
Moose would be ticked!!
Very nice musical rendition of the Star Spangled Banner, we need to steal that somehow.
“Hmmm…only able to get audio in Spanish. Sounds more insightful than Sterling and K, but I don’t understand a word of it…Any suggestions?”
Hooked on espanol.
I feel sorry for the ppl listening on radio if pregame doesn’t put you to sleep Sterling + Waldman will by the 2nd inning.
Poor David got the shaft. Didn’t take too long for the KC fans to hate Kyle too. I guess they know they should be 3-0.
wow!
Dude held that note for a while
nice sax playing.
National Anthem guy obviously not a smoker.
S.o.S.
April 10th, 2009 at 4:29 pm
GB,
3 FOR 3. Whats his story? What happened to him? I couldnt find it on that site.
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add in 4 runs scored and 3 RBI with 2 walks. Pretty decent start for 18 years old. He was a big time high school player in Michigan…one of the best ever. Speed, power, great outfielder and pitcher. He hurt his back in ST in ’64 and the surgery failed and he never played again. His two prothers Jim and Tom played ML ball. Tom was an outstading hitter.
wow that wasnt obnoxious at all.
Jeter in LF wanna hang out sometime???
That was the longest note in the history of notes.
Epic sax playing
Hooray! Audio up on Gameday now. Are we just about ready to have a game!!
Holy crap that saxophone dude was amazing.
dont get your hopes up jeter….. wasnt me
Did I miss anything interesting on YES with Pete and Joe? Thanks!
wasssssuppppp peopleees??????
dan aka god
Jeter in LF wanna hang out sometime???
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Please!!!!!!!??????????!!!!!!!!!
“Dude held that note for a while”
That wasn’t a note – it was more like a four page Dear John letter.
Throw the ball already !!
i still can’t get gameday audio up and running. Have tried it in IE 6, 7. Firefox on windows and linux..nada
you wish buddy
dude, Swish is going to be mad hype up. He’s drinking Red Bull.
I feel bad for Farns
He did blow a game for them already though, I guess he deserved the boos.
I don’t think they have clocks in Kansas City..
Thanks, Jen. Oy, if I heard that, my heart would have leapt in my throat.
http://stream2.wtsnam1270.com/
^ radio stream (free gameday audio)
Nice national anthem play by the guy!
NYY needs to hit everything to right field. 17 MPH winds in from left.
“you wish buddy”
Damn you burned him so bad bro!
farns survived a few years of booing at yankee stadium. i doubt KC fans are going to drive him to jump off of a bridge…
Am I the only one who loves the waterfalls in KC?
does that mean you just got me better?
“NYY needs to hit everything to right field. 17 MPH winds in from left.”
anyone wanna bet Ponson will be gone after 2?
Patrick
“you wish buddy”
Damn you burned him so bad bro!
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But it hurt so good.
finally baseball
“does that mean you just got me better?”
ahhYUP
Jetes prbly was sleeping in that AB
GB,
So he played one game in 63 sent down. Invited back in 64 and proceeds to hurt his back. Why send him down after an incredible start?
Damon 7/8 off of Ponson. YES!
Glad to see Nady’s on the bench. Swisher adds so much more character to the lineup.
calling it: tex is gonna bomb one
riiiiiiighhhhhhht
“Dude held that note for a while”
Remember, S.A., it’s a marathon, not a sprint.
here comes Mats. c’mon Mats, bomb one!
“Dude held that note for a while”
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How about too long…
“Dude held that note for a while”
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How about too long…
“DT April 10th, 2009 at 4:39 pm
“Dude held that note for a while”
That wasn’t a note – it was more like a four page Dear John letter.”
Quote of the afternoon.
Oh yeah Rebecca,
Happy Early Birthday.
“By the way, download Boom Boom Pow by Black Eyed Peas. Good song.”
Tell me you’re kidding.
DT April 10th, 2009 at 4:39 pm
“Dude held that note for a while”
That wasn’t a note – it was more like a four page Dear John letter.
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Hahaha
Great play by Tex. Bad play by the second baseman. Should have run down the lead runner.
Ponson with a booboo?
awww, Ponson is already hurt?
bummer.
Posada with 2 RBIS. YES!!
2-0 Yanks
thats how you do it jorge
damn I can’t give an error on that.
Oh, how I’ve missed Sidney Ponson.
Hip Hip Jorge! I know it’s an oldie, but still a goodie!
Yeah, Ponson is fine.
I hope the Dutch don’t retaliate.
So glad we don’t have Sir Sid anymore!!!
S.o.S.
April 10th, 2009 at 4:43 pm
GB,
So he played one game in 63 sent down. Invited back in 64 and proceeds to hurt his back. Why send him down after an incredible start?
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I signed out of high school, played minor league ball that year and was called up to play the last game of the year on 29 September, 1963.
***He*** signed out of high school
Remember how people said signing AJ Burnett was like killing two birds with one stone because not only do we get him as a pitcher but we also don’t have to face him?
Sydney Ponson is the reverse of that.
have a good weekend everyone. i’m outta here!
Cano with his hitting streak extended.
Damn Robi is hot
Cano…dontcha know
I wouldn’t want to be an infielder behind ponson
predicts full count for Swish.
Cano’s on fire!
well i guess we know KC is weak defensively at short and first…
One of the best feelings in baseball is seeing Sidney Ponson as the opposing pitcher.
LOL Nick
Nick,
We were talking the other day about Raider fan. Never bothered to ask you if your a niner fan or raider fan? None of the above?
Nick, can’t believe I’m saying this (just kidding)..I agree with you. hahas.
Nick in SF – comment of the day!
whoa, that was close!!
” signed out of high school, played minor league ball that year and was called up to play the last game of the year on 29 September, 1963.”
Oh, what a night…. Late September back in ’63
Swish just missed that
Nick Swisher believes in 3-2
Nick Swisher “Full Count” Count: 1
5 3-2 counts in a row
What was going on with all those towels being laid over Nady in the dugout? (My sound was off.) Was it a joke or is he sick?
We need to keep score of his full counts
Dating back to yesterday’s game, Swisher has run the count full in five straight ABs and has seen a total of 35 pitches.
S.o.S.: New York Football Giants fan. I’m from New York!
Jim Burt meets Joe Montana is my favorite Niners highlight of all time, I think.
AG, yes. Swish was just pampering Nady.
DT
April 10th, 2009 at 4:55 pm
” signed out of high school, played minor league ball that year and was called up to play the last game of the year on 29 September, 1963.”
Oh, what a night…. Late September back in ‘63
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Yeah, we should of been back in school.
Thanks GB. Wasnt aware that it was the final game of the year.
Nick,
lol. Hopefully we can add A.I. to that opposite 2 birds with one stone list. 9 earned runs in one inning. Hope he doesnt go on the d.l. before we face him. Gotta keep the line moving.
If Cano stays this patient he could win the batting title this year.
pete wheres your uniform? benchwarmer!
Cano with a gold glove play…
Cano is “en fugo!” — I hope that’s something good!
There is an ungrateful element picking on Ponson.
He pitched well for the Yankees; and is going to lose today. How much more do you want?
cano w/ the defense! We’re witnessing a transformation
The jumpman team
Ransom
Cano
Jetes
Teix
Arod
“We need to keep score of his full counts”
Over under Brandon. 2
Cano looks a lot more serious about the game this year than last. At the plate he is starting to look more and more like Manny in terms of his stance and mannerisms.
over
I love that David Cone mentioned “Irish pubs” on air already. His favorite topic ever, apparently.
Brandon,
not doing the JOhan home run count this season?
It’s the Mannyfied Robi Cano
That’s our Andy!
Pettite with the strike out.
It starts as soon as they hit one Ed.
Brandon, lol ok…
Funny clip shown on YES of Swisher putting towels around Nady on the bench to keep him warm and rest his head and back on the bench today.
“Cano is “en fugo!”—I hope that’s something good!”
Damn Zooboy. Pretty impressive(en fuego). Iv heard of 6 second abbs and lose 30 pounds in one month. But iv never seen someone learn spanish in 10 minutes. Either your a fast learner or that stuff really works. Im getting me one.
Nick in SF April 10th, 2009 at 4:57 pm
S.o.S.: New York Football Giants fan. I’m from New York!
Jim Burt meets Joe Montana is my favorite Niners highlight of all time, I think.
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How about when Leonard Marshall said hi to Joe Montana in the NFC Championship Game. There will be no 3-peat.
WOW great play
so Ransom got robbed of a hit TWICE. at least once in each series.
“Cano looks a lot more serious about the game this year than last.”
Could it have a little to do with his BFF having to ride the pine this year?
Horrible at bat by Gadner but its no biggie
Macho Gratis, S.o.S.
he knows he helped him there, don’t do it again Brett.
“How about when Leonard Marshall said hi to Joe Montana in the NFC Championship Game. There will be no 3-peat.”
I agree. Montana was never the same again.
Yikes, two Ks by Ponson. That’s pretty bad.
Bench Jeter. He’s 0-6 now. Play Pena.
“Macho Gratis, S.o.S.”
I speak 70% of spanish. Either you killed it on this one or its the 30% i dont know. Did you mean Mucho? Macho = strong. Lets stick to American talk.
I’d bet that either DeJesus or Crisp is patrolling centerfield for the Yankees by August 1st. My money is on Crisp.
Gardner doesn’t have a major league bat…sorry.
Further wager, if A-Rod gets reinjured at some point I wouldn’t be surprised if Teahen was part of that deal too.
Andy is going 7 today!
en fugo?
Where is Cano escaping to?
Can Micheal Kay suck any worst
Cone has a father? I thought he was raised by an Irish pub.
S.A. and S.o.S.: Leanard Marshall, good call.
Bench Swisher. Bum!
Damn that must have been a strong wind
oops Swisher
hey Jeter in LF – theres your boy
That was Cano’s ball
it happens..dont let it happen again 
I forget. How many runs will Swisher’s defense save us?
I-Brandon (I LOVE ME SOME ME !)
April 10th, 2009 at 5:17 pm
Damn that must have been a strong wind
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Just a bad play from the start. The walk to Butler didn’t help.
“That was Cano’s ball”
And he might have caught it if Swish hadn’t called him off the ball. No worries. The offense will get that run back.
Elliott Maddox would have caught that one, bad knee and all, and he is now 61 years old!
“Wah wah Swisher in RF Wah Wah Wah” “OBP WAH WAH” Nady wouldn’t have allowed a run to score
w/ the 17 MPH wind, doubt it Bob Z
Swisher was just trying to nail the runner before he could reach the dugout.
come on Godzilla
The Royals announcers are really hard to lsiten to!
I just want the Cano bat this inning to see what he does
Godzilla is off to a rough start
wtf matsui come on. all you have to worry about is hitting
Whatever the polar opposite of “locked-in” might be, Hideki Matsui is personifying it right now.
the Royals stadium, field, and uniforms look beautiful.
time for this rich franchise (in history), to turn it around
calm down its early
Matsui looks 100 years old – i have a big problem w/ him being clean up and the fact that I think Girardi thinks he should get the most ABs as DH. I am glad this is his last year.
Yanks always have a hard time with bad pitchers……
Andy is Sharp
matsui is a very streaky hitter, always has been. just relax, he’ll get hot and carry the team for a week
Wow. People are down on Matsui ALREADY?
Do us all a favor and turn off your television. Please.
“Wow. People are down on Matsui ALREADY?”
These are the same people who will be singing his praises once he gets hot.
“Wow. People are down on Matsui ALREADY?
Do us all a favor and turn off your television. Please”
fair-weather fans
Let’s get a big inning off of Ponson…he is ready to get lit up
Cano!
Wow, someone put the fear of God into Robbie. He is looking batting title worthy.
Swisher! and Cano scores
daaaam
Swisher looking good, with the bat
Nice of Swish to get that run back.
Swish: I take it all back, you’re the straw that swishes the drink!
Nice Swishy. Robbie scores
3-1 yanks
““Wah wah Swisher in RF Wah Wah Wah” “OBP WAH WAH” Nady wouldn’t have allowed a run to score”
Nady wouldn’t have hit that double, either.
Swisher looking like a ballplayer !
So glad I dealt for Cano in one of my fantasy leagues. It cost Joe Nathan (and Felipe Lopez), but I also got Bedard in the deal.
‘Swish: I take it all back, you’re the straw that swishes the drink!’
swisher should have went to third there…cmon
Dumb play. You always go for the sure out.
well that sucks …nevermind
Gardner should bunt here
safe
That bunt moved the runners into scoring position, but also took about the possible DP from the Captain.
Nice Brett, no possible DP for Jeter!
atleast he can’t hit into a DP
There was that DP ball.
Ransom should have leapt over the SS.
Need a little base running drills after the game.
Wow Ransom. You learn that in T-ball. Gotta wonder .
Wow Ransom. You learn that in T-ball. Gotta wonder .
Wow Ransom. You learn that in T-ball. Gotta wonder .
Very happy to see Nick bounce right back from that error – that’s a good sign.
“Very happy to see Nick bounce right back from that error – that’s a good sign”
through 4 games, Swisher looks like a player to me
I drafted Cano for my FB team, feeling good about that so far, Matsui will eventually rake
and Nady looks like a 4th outfielder
Pettite pitching great; should have a shutout
tampayank
April 10th, 2009 at 5:52 pm
Pettite pitching great; should have a shutout
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If the catch was made, Pettitte’s working on 4 no-hit innings.
So is the consensus now that the first 2 games were just hiccups. Team looks to be doing what is should yesterday and today, taking care of lesser teams and collecting those wins.
pettitte looks sharp, that is good.
Poor Matsui off to a horrible start hand in there bud
The announcers for the Royals keep talking about how great the “new” Kauffman Stadium is. Wait until KC goes to NY and sees what a *real* NEW stadium looks like.
matsui should really be bunting there, i can’t stand when people don’t move leadoff doubles over. forget swisher vs. nady, it’s nady vs. matsui and it’s not close right now.
You gotta love seeing Ponson labor for the opposing team.
That ball was outside, but the ump has been calling it all day so what can we do.
and i’m not talking about everybody bunting there, obviously, i can’t stand giving outs away, i’m just talking about someone who looks as poor as matsui does bunting there.
And the new and improved Robinson Cano walks yet again. Woohoo!
Matsui is clearly done as a player, probably, as a person too.
A paper player for a paper bride?
Is that Japan revenue just paper too?????
“and i’m not talking about everybody bunting there, obviously, i can’t stand giving outs away, i’m just talking about someone who looks as poor as matsui does bunting there.”
Don’t hold your breath waiting for a big time slugger like Matsui to bunt. The Yankees don’t have their big guys bunt. It’s just not something they are going to do.
and i’m not talking about everybody bunting there, obviously, i can’t stand giving outs away, i’m just talking about someone who looks as poor as matsui does bunting there.
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How many times do you think Matsui has bunted in the last decade?
The guy has been a homerun hitter his entire pro career, both in Japan and in the US.
Suggesting he should ever bunt is ridiculous. He probably couldn’t lay a bunt down if he tried.
“Matsui is clearly done as a player, probably, as a person too.”
Nick, I hope you are cracking one of your infamous jokes. It’s the 4th game of the season. No way can we say that Matsui is done yet.
Nice pitching by Sir Sid
“The announcers for the Royals keep talking about how great the “new” Kauffman Stadium is. Wait until KC goes to NY and sees what a real NEW stadium looks like”
the KC stadium look +++ attractive to me, then new Yankee stadium. To each their own
Bad call
3 straight called out on strikes… strange. home plate ump must have a custom designed strike zone no one else recognises
2 of my biggest baseball “pet peeves” happend in that last 1/2 inning.
1. Wasting (not even getting to 3rd) a leadoff double
2. Watching the homeplate umpire move his strike zone around and not even from inning to inning but batter to batter and pitch to pitch.
Gardner sucks at going back
if hideki keeps this up they will begin calling it the “below the matsui line”.
If Butler ever gets his swing working, he’s going to be a big time power hitter.
“Poor Matsui off to a horrible start hand in there bud”
he was the hightlight of Game 1. Peeps have a short memory. If Matsui remains healthy, he will be fine
laura and guiseppe franco (great commercial) – i was joking. obviously the yankees aren’t going to have matsui bunt. it was more a comment on how awful matsui has looked at the plate (results aside). outside of that one ball he turned on in baltimore where everyone was shooting things out to the RF gap, pitchers have been attacking him and he looks overmatched. bigtime slugger? i wish. i love matsui, great guy, but there is no way he should be guaranteed a regular spot in this lineup over swisher/nady (and the fact that nady might be a better option is as big an indictment on matsui as you can make).
“He probably couldn’t lay a bunt down if he tried.”
I blame Brian Cashman.
This ump couldn’t find the strike zone with a tom tom. His zone seems a little loosie goosie. Petitte looks sharp.
thank you wind lol
As Suzyn Waldman would say, Ponson is “not long for this world.”
Ponson @ 98 pitches…. He can’t be going too much longer.
Paddy R,
It’s game 4. Matsui will be fine. BTW, Nady ain’t lookin much better at this point, but I’m sure both will get clicking here soon. Your not one of those who wants to Trade or cut CC already are ya?
andy is dandy
Look at Ponson move
“loosie goosie” strike zone indeed.
Thx A-Rod for contributing to the 09 season vernacular. lol.
ponson out runs gardner
Ponson could leave the game now with a better line than we got from CC or Wang.
“andy is dandy”
not according to people on this board, who tried to kick him to the curb.
1 run of support. Ponson must feel like he’s back with the Netherlands.
Ponson has done quite well, today. His infield defense may have cost him a couple of runs. Job done well against a good hitting team.
Is Coco wearing #2 in honor of Jeter?
“loosie goosie” will remind me of a-rod forever.he really sounded like a idiot.i hope he’s back before may.
Andy looks real good so far. Nice job mixing his pitches.
look at that KC lineup. hardly anyone is hitting over .200.
DT
you mean the game against the dominican…haha
mendoza line started there right?
me – definitely not. it simply drives me insane when a lefty can’t move a leadoff double over. matsui will roll one over there 10 times per week just not when we actually want him to. loved matsui, always super clutch, professional hitter, but he’s not a good situational hitter, he’s a terrible defender, and if he can’t hit for power (which the swings he is taking will not produce), what can he do? it’s early it’s early yada yada, my man has had two knee surgeries in the last year and is taking legless swings across his first 10-12 ABs. i’m not saying he can’t turn it around, nor that the injuries are his fault, just what the reality right now is. if matsui had roped that ball (or any balls besides one on opening day for that matter) somewhere i could care less. it’s not the results, it’s the approach.
Vintage Pettitte today. This rotation should barrel roll through the league.
matsui did have a HR in baltimore so he’s gotten the ball out of the infield, I think he’ll get it going, patience
Regardless of who he is facing, his command looks good today.
Mark
April 10th, 2009 at 6:07 pm
Gardner sucks at going back
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This guy just doesn’t know how to track a ball straight back. I had my doubts about his ability to run routes but I had no idea the extent of his problem. How many doubles have been surrendered because he can’t get to the wall?
Anyone other than you and me awake out there? My brother called me and said “He did it again! Why can’t he make a line to the ball?”
This guy was supposed to not only be a base-stealing threat, but an upgrade over Melky. My butt. Melky makes these plays. Bring him back.
One more inning for Andy
I trust Pettite in October; if he’s stay’s healthy, very solid #4
“it’s early it’s early yada yada,”
But Paddy, it *IS* early! You can’t dismiss the “it’s early” chant when it’s true. The Yankees (save for he who shall not be named, but will start baseball activities on Monday) are notorious slow starters. Their April record is God awful. I am not surprised that Matsui is stinking up the place. I’m disappointed, but not surprised. I know that he’s had two knee surgeries, but I still say that it’s too early to be writing him off.
Good job by Andy today
Our old pal Kyle hahahahaha
hey look, its Fransworth.
Oh no, it’s Krazy Kyle!!!
it’s Krazy Kyle!!
Hi Krazy Kyle!
Nice to see old reliable Andy Pettitte bring his A game today.
““He probably couldn’t lay a bunt down if he tried.”
I blame Brian Cashman.”
Nick, Nick, Nick. Thats absolutely wrong. When theres doubt. Always blame Alex. He should be leading by example.
Hey. Have we made an error yet this year?
“matsui did have a HR in baltimore so he’s gotten the ball out of the infield, I think he’ll get it going, patience”
he also raked in spring training
but yeah…he’s finished
sarcasm
Krazy Kyle
Good start to the season for Andy. Another inning or hand it over to the pen?
Farnsworth already blew 1 game for KC, this year
hmm, KK not so krazy against our lineup so far
Kyle looking nasty, he still sucks
This guy was supposed to not only be a base-stealing threat, but an upgrade over Melky. My butt. Melky makes these plays. Bring him back.
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Your guy lost that battle. Get over it.
Melky had 2007 and 2008 to take a stranglehold of that job and regressed instead of improving his game.
He had his chance. Time to let someone else play for awhile.
Kyle is bringin’ da heat! Why wasn’t that happening when he was in NY???
“Good start to the season for Andy. Another inning or hand it over to the pen?”
another inning
In KK’s defense he wasn’t so terrible last year. Gave fans ulcers but I don’t recall him blowing too many games.
Kyle was always hit or miss. He may be lights out today, but I bet he stinks up the place the next time he pitches.
Perfect spot for Farnswsorth actually. 7th inning – 3 runs down. Less pressure.
Krazy Kyle seems to have left the krazy home today
laura – understood it’s early, and i’ll give everyone that pass typically, but for me matsui is a bit different considering the knee surgeries. listen, i’m probably being overcritical because of how inexcusable i find it not to move leadoff runners on second base over. i really hope these early swings are not indicative of the type of swings matsui will be taking as/if he gets more comfortable, and that he proves me wrong. not like i’m rooting against him or anything, i love the guy, just not overly encouraged by the type of swings we’ve seen to date, which are simply not going to produce results. those last three swings vs. farnsworth were all arms/flails (though kyle was filthy that inning).
takes the ball night after night
wasn’t Farnsworth the one who couldn’t pitch on consectutive days??
Kyle is great until the game is on the line
“Have we made an error yet this year?”
The only person who can really answer that is the man in the mirror.
Good job kyle. Too bad you couldn’t do it in ny consistently where 48,000 are in the stands staring you in the face. You still have nasty suff though.
“i love the guy, just not overly encouraged by the type of swings we’ve seen to date, which are simply not going to produce results. those last three swings vs. farnsworth were all arms/flails (though kyle was filthy that inning).”
I understand. Let’s just hope he finds his swing so that he can return to the extremely productive player he once was.
Please bench Matsui.
Farnsworth has always been this. ERither lights out incredible or a hitter that even The House Of David could hit.
“wasn’t Farnsworth the one who couldn’t pitch on consectutive days??”
According to Joe Torre, although I believe Krazy Kyle disputed that claim.
***Either*** lights
HI Everyone!
Busy day for me. Switched on CBS radio in time to hear the lineup and heard Swish was playing. There must be a lot of happy people out there – happy that Swish is playing and happy with Girardi.
I chose to listen to music (E Street Radio – 12/31/80 concert from the Nassau Colliseum) rather than the game.
Got home at 5 and Hubby was here – yay! That doesn’t happen often during the week. He’s switching between Yanks game and Masters, but said they Yankees had a good 1st inning.
Cooked dinner, ate, cleaned up and am now drinking coffee and catching up here.
One of the things my hubby told me was the Sidney Ponson greeted some of the Yankees at their hotel. What a cool thing to do. He may not have been Cy Young, but he always gave 100% and was 100% accountable after game, win or lose. I like Sir Sid.
Andy Pettitte is looking very good today. Yay, again!
Now, I will go back and catch up on the day’s posts.
Enjoy the rest of the game guys.
Kyle just had a nice inning, huh?
Hey, did Torre mention Krazy Kyle in his book? I would have thought he would have had some interesting nuggets to tell about that guy.
Bruney is warming up. Cmon Andy. Get thru the 7th.
Laura – Plug it in, change the world!
April 10th, 2009 at 6:39 pm
“wasn’t Farnsworth the one who couldn’t pitch on consectutive days??”
According to Joe Torre, although I believe Krazy Kyle disputed that claim.
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That’s because Farnsworth told Torre that he couldn’t get loose three days in a row down in Texas, then, did it again later that year. It killed the bullpen, so, Torre quit pitching him in back to back days.
I wouldn’t worry too much about the Melky v. Gardner battle, they’re both just keeping the position warm until AJax is good-to-go.
“One of the things my hubby told me was the Sidney Ponson greeted some of the Yankees at their hotel. What a cool thing to do. He may not have been Cy Young, but he always gave 100% and was 100% accountable after game, win or lose. I like Sir Sid.”
I agree. I always liked his post game comments. He would stand there and take it like a man. CC and AJ look like they are going to be that way as well.
“That’s because Farnsworth told Torre that he couldn’t get loose three days in a row down in Texas, then, did it again later that year. It killed the bullpen, so, Torre quit pitching him in back to back days.”
Oh, okay. Thanks for the info, GB.
who is the best #4 pitcher in the league?
you looking at him.
Hamels didn’t have a good start today 7ER in 3.2innings
“UPDATE, 6:36 p.m.: Of course Kyle strikes out the side. How many Yankees do you think just said, “Where was that when we had him?”
That would be all of them, Pete!
I wouldn’t worry too much about the Melky v. Gardner battle, they’re both just keeping the position warm until AJax is good-to-go.
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That’s still a year away. Jackson isn’t likely to sniff the majors until September at the earliest.
6 strike outs for Andy today.
Not too many teams have a #4 like the Yankees.
If things stay the way they are the Yankees will have to do something about splitting up Andy and CC.
Really nice game pitched by Pettitte, today. Ponson also did quite well. Makes you wonder if they let Pettitte face the two left handed bats in the 8th inning. I do.
“hardwired April 10th, 2009 at 6:43 pm
I wouldn’t worry too much about the Melky v. Gardner battle, they’re both just keeping the position warm until AJax is good-to-go.”
I was thinking about that, if Gardner continues to struggle and Melky isn’t that much better(actually better defensively, cannon arm, offense not sure), why not give AJAX his big chance?
Doreen,
Lots of exclamations points on your post. Hmmm, my guess is either too much coffee oor youv already dipped into the chocolate eggs.
Andy is @ 99 pitches. Do you let him start the 8th?
the wild-card is what will Joba do tomorrow?
don’t really know what to expect
wasnt it pettitte last year who couldnt make it through the 6th ever?? i cant remember, but id take this as a great sign from him!!
I agree with GB.
I can’t stand that Francesa commercial. I don’t know how I’m going to get through the season with that on every half inning.
Laura – Plug it in, change the world!
April 10th, 2009 at 6:44 pm
“That’s because Farnsworth told Torre that he couldn’t get loose three days in a row down in Texas, then, did it again later that year. It killed the bullpen, so, Torre quit pitching him in back to back days.”
Oh, okay. Thanks for the info, GB.
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any time. Farnsworth and Sean Henn had a lot in common. Million dollar arms and nothing else.
CC is tomorrow
the wild-card is what will Joba do tomorrow?
don’t really know what to expect
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CC tomorrow. Joba Sunday
DT
April 10th, 2009 at 6:48 pm
I agree with GB.
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Excuse me. My cardiologist just walked in to see if I’ll survive the heart attack.
I would think that a full year in AAA would do wonders for Jackson…remember not giving Hughes a full year in AAA.
hardwired
April 10th, 2009 at 6:43 pm
I wouldn’t worry too much about the Melky v. Gardner battle, they’re both just keeping the position warm until AJax is good-to-go.
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That’s correct; all the more reason to swap in the guy who makes those plays. If there is no long-term investment in Gardner – and there isn’t, since AJax’s ETA is 2010 – we just need someone dependable who actually makes the routine play.
Andy earned some of his 5 mil and probably started that incentive end of it as well. Good to see him godeep into the game. Bullpen needed it. One word. Gamer.
Ajax needs to work on his hitting. Let him get some AAA experience and work on bringing his avg. up, K’s down. Way too early. If Gardner or Melky dont cut it. Im sure there will be a center fielder out there by June to be had.
“That’s correct; all the more reason to swap in the guy who makes those plays. If there is no long-term investment in Gardner – and there isn’t, since AJax’s ETA is 2010 – we just need someone dependable who actually makes the routine play”
yawn.
Seeing Farnsworth do that doesn’t make me mad at all. He had plenty of those outings for the Yankees. The only problem is that the next time he was brought in the game, he got crushed.
Mike…dvr the game, wait about 15-20 minutes and you can fast forward thru the commercials.
laura – agree 100%. and to clarify, as i reread my initial comment, i was joking that matsui should bunt because “he can’t do anything else the way he looks right now”. not serious at all, though when i went back i realized it was written in a way that could have been taken that way. my bad, yo.
andy pettitte was sicko today. as effective as he was through 23 starts last year, he hasn’t had the slider he had today, especially to lefties, since 2007. just never found it last year. if he’s healthy, and he has the slider he had today more days than not, watch out. agreed with GB, he’s out there to face the two lefties to start this inning.
Great bullpen work by KC. 5 strikeouts on 6 at bats.
Farnsworth’s problem was that he couldn’t pitch consecutive days.
S.o.S.
April 10th, 2009 at 6:52 pm
Andy earned some of his 5 mil and probably started that incentive end of it as well. Good to see him godeep into the game. Bullpen needed it. One word. Gamer.
Ajax needs to work on his hitting. Let him get some AAA experience and work on bringing his avg. up, K’s down. Way too early. If Gardner or Melky dont cut it. Im sure there will be a center fielder out there by June to be had.
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They won’t disturb AJax. But no need to go outside; put Melky back in center, have Gardner come off the bench to pinch run.
“Farnsworth’s problem was that he couldn’t pitch consecutive days.”
I think Farnsy’s problems were between his shoulder blades and Yankee cap.
Seriously. Bruney needs to be in one of those Marino weight loss commercials. Anymore weight loss and we might mistake him for Edwar.
Farnsworth’s problem was that he couldn’t pitch -consecutive days- well.
Nice 1-2-3
Great inning for Bruney!
Hey, who is #38 for the yankees? When did we sign him?
Melky will probably start every 5th to 6th game…unless Gardner looks overmatched.
Farnsy would choke in big moment, when his team would have a 1 run lead, he would load the bases then give up a Grand Slam :0
Nice inning by Bruney. 6 straight sliders to Olivo was a little odd, though.
This game is moving so fast, the trolls haven’t even shown up yet.
Big deal that Farnsworth struck out the side – the Royals are behind and there’s no pressure. I’m not about to regret trading him at this point; I don’t care how hard he throws, he is what he is.
Great day for Andy – I’m so happy for him and he really helped out the pen. Ponson did a good job- credit to him or blame to the Yankees? I’m still not a real fan of this offense – it’s too hit or miss and their tendency to waste RISP is aggravating beyond belief.
Nice inning by Bruney.
S.O.S. – I didn’t notice the !’s while I was typing. I usually default to the ”
” – hmm. I think I’m still hyper from driving from here to LI and back, then doing all the usual end of the day chores.
In Torre’s book, Farnsworth is quoted as denying he could not pitch on consecutive days.
Girardi had just gotten Farnsworth figured out when he got traded. I’m not sorry he’s gone, but he was just coming around….
KC’s bullpen has been outstanding
bodhisattva,
I think the only way we go after a centerfielder is if Melky or Gardner cant hit .250 and hold their own in the outfield. Or the other outfielders are under performing at he plate and they need more pop in the lineup. Chances are we stick with what we have.
Cody Ransom is so not ready for prime time.
DT, I was just thinking the same thing…this place is a different place when the Yankees are winning.
That’s what Brett needs to do more. On the ground.
Quick move
If I were at the game I would walk up to the PA announcer and hand him the CD for sandman and say “do you mind playing this before you announce mariano?” THANKS!
brettis-god-inthedoghouse
I believe they face a lefty tommorrow. Time for another day off for Matsui.
To clarify, the infield hit not the pick off
pat
April 10th, 2009 at 7:07 pm
That’s what Brett needs to do more. On the ground.
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Hope he eliminates the other part of that, though.
Not good for Gardner.
Worse not good – Jeter got robbed by a ricochet off the foot! Weird play.
That’s correct; all the more reason to swap in the guy who makes those plays. If there is no long-term investment in Gardner – and there isn’t, since AJax’s ETA is 2010 – we just need someone dependable who actually makes the routine play.
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The tradeoff is that Gardner catches a lot more bloopers than Melky does.
I’ll take the guy who didn’t suck for two years and actually has some skills.
hmmmmm
brettis -god- inthe doghouse
thank god for the pickoff – that would have been a 1-5-4-3 DP!
Nice, Bruney – amazing how he can look so bad one outing, then be lights out the next two.
Good game for the Yanks so far – I don’t meant to come across as constantly harping on them. I’m loving Cano – as long as his approach remains good, he’s in for a super year. He just has to be careful to keep that good approach when the hits stop dropping in and he goes into a slump. It happens to everyone, so he will just need to be patient and wait it out. Nick looks good – came back from that error to get a nice hit. Bruney – also looks good. They didn’t hit a lot, but they’ve done just enough so far. It’s amazing how different a team looks when they get good pitching as opposed to bad…….
Question – given that we still need to be careful with Mo, do you bring him out with a 3 run lead? It may be one of those times where you try to get by without him…..
S.o.S.
April 10th, 2009 at 7:06 pm
bodhisattva,
I think the only way we go after a centerfielder is if Melky or Gardner cant hit .250 and hold their own in the outfield. Or the other outfielders are under performing at he plate and they need more pop in the lineup. Chances are we stick with what we have.
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I’m not really hung up on what they give us offensively. We have enough in the lineup to carry them. We don’t need to go sign or trade for anyone, because AJax should be good to go next season, if he continues to progress at this rate. He’s made some major progress and is a kid who is determined to be a real hitter. He already can field and throw.
We just need a guy who can catch the ball. So far, Gardner’s speed has not translated into plus outfield defense.
The King of Kings Rivera is in
Betsy
April 10th, 2009 at 7:11 pm
Nice, Bruney – amazing how he can look so bad one outing, then be lights out the next two.
Good game for the Yanks so far – I don’t meant to come across as constantly harping on them. I’m loving Cano – as long as his approach remains good, he’s in for a super year. He just has to be careful to keep that good approach when the hits stop dropping in and he goes into a slump. It happens to everyone, so he will just need to be patient and wait it out. Nick looks good – came back from that error to get a nice hit. Bruney – also looks good. They didn’t hit a lot, but they’ve done just enough so far. It’s amazing how different a team looks when they get good pitching as opposed to bad…….
Question – given that we still need to be careful with Mo, do you bring him out with a 3 run lead? It may be one of those times where you try to get by without him…..
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Lot of similarities between Farnsworth and Bruney.
It really is unfortunate that Melky has not been able to maximize his skill set. He really does have the prototypical right fielder’s arm. If he could couple it w/a steady bat, the Yanks would be set in right for years to come.
If only osmosis could impart some of Brett Garner’s will into Melky’s body…
This ump must have dinner reservations in 30 minutes.
somebody hand mo a martini. It is too easy for him.
Nick in SF
April 10th, 2009 at 7:10 pm
hmmmmm
brettis god inthe doghouse
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Don’t think he is. He’ll be given every opportunity to justify the decision. Also, winning tends to make people forget misplayed balls, if they recognize them at all. But if the pattern continues, it’s going to be hard for the Yankees to just look the other way.
and he does this throwing 91mph.
4 straight 91 MPH cutters….unreal for anybody, let alone a 40 year old.
Whoever scouted Mo Rivera for the Yanks need to be immortalized inmonument park.
You think, GB? I thought Bruney was great last year and showed a lot of dedication by busting his butt to get back. He’s got to do it again, but I think there is real room for growth with him whereas with Farnsworth I don’t – I think what you see, is what you get.
That’s as bad a throw as you’ll see Cano make. Seldom see him make bad throws.
hardwired
April 10th, 2009 at 7:14 pm
It really is unfortunate that Melky has not been able to maximize his skill set. He really does have the prototypical right fielder’s arm. If he could couple it w/a steady bat, the Yanks would be set in right for years to come.
If only osmosis could impart some of Brett Garner’s will into Melky’s body…
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His bat has more offense in it than Gardner’s. And he’s only 24 years old. He has enough going for him that he can improve offensively, certainly enough to give us something at the bottom of the order.
GreenBeret7
April 10th, 2009 at 7:19 pm
That’s as bad a throw as you’ll see Cano make. Seldom see him make bad throws.
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Yes, and he chose the right time to make a bad throw.
2 – 2….things turning around a bit….Big day for CC 2morrow.
Yankees win. me like-ey alot.
Mo is to laugh at, he’s so good. He gave up a hit, though, which is disgraceful
He’s an incredible pitcher and a tremendous ambassador for the sport. When he retires, the game will be losing something special.
“That’s as bad a throw as you’ll see Cano make.”
He’s just keeping your cardiologist employed.
Betsy
April 10th, 2009 at 7:18 pm
You think, GB? I thought Bruney was great last year and showed a lot of dedication by busting his butt to get back. He’s got to do it again, but I think there is real room for growth with him whereas with Farnsworth I don’t – I think what you see, is what you get.
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Was talking more about the pure “stuff” they have. Big time fastballs and a great slider that they fall in love with way too much. The difference is, Bruney’s fastball moves and Farnsworth’s is straight as a string. However, nobody’s touching Farnsworth’s fastball at the letters or up in the eyes.
I missed some of the game. Did Melky go in for Swisher in the 9th or before?
bodhisattva: you take things pretty literally, huh?
I meant that the Lohud commenter brettisgod is in the doghouse for deceiving us about Garnder’s so-called divinity.
Nice win.
I guess the season isn’t over already after all.
Aww, Joe sort of giving Nick a neck massage as the Yanks storm the field, lol. Nice to see that sort of encouragement – it looks like Joe just wanted to show that he’s really happy with Nick and say “good job”
DT
April 10th, 2009 at 7:22 pm
“That’s as bad a throw as you’ll see Cano make.”
He’s just keeping your cardiologist employed.
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Rodriguez called him and told him he needed to be the center of attention.
Nick in SF
April 10th, 2009 at 7:24 pm
bodhisattva: you take things pretty literally, huh?
I meant that the Lohud commenter brettisgod is in the doghouse for deceiving us about Garnder’s so-called divinity.
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If I missed the irony, it’s because I’m not in on the inside jokes on here. But now I gotcha
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Could it be, though, that the poster with said name is being ironic? I’m not familiar w/him/her.
Forget the plaque, or the retired number. Mariano Rivera is deserving of a statue front and center at the new Stadium (when that sad day comes that he hangs them up).
S.A.–It’s a marathon, not a sprint
April 10th, 2009 at 7:26 pm
Nice win.
I guess the season isn’t over already after all.
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I don’t know. NYY started slowly again, so, it may be too late to pull it all together. Season is moving fast. seems like it was just 5 days ago that the season started and it’s almost over.
Great game for the Yanks. They played some nice baseball today. I’d like more runs obviously but Pettitte pitched a gem and the bullpen is strong as expected. That is the key with this team, great pitching.
Hardwired ;
Couldn’t agree more. Mariano is a legend. One of a kind.
Rivera is the new “Right Hand Of God”. He’s saved more than the other savior.
Pettite w/ 7 solid innings, bridge to Mariano, Mariano, Game over. That is Yankee Baseball!!! Let’s do it again tomorrow night, GO YANKS
a good game, but, some shakey base running early on.
Got it, GB…….I like Bruney, but I did think he got overconfident in ST. I hope he can overcome his flaws on the mound because he’s got the goods to succeed (and I don’t expect him to be perfect).
No HRs today.
I like seeing them do it without the long ball all the time.
Good win today, panic is done we are at .500
Betsy -
Another take on Bruney is that rather than being overly confident, he was on the defensive and over-pressing to prove all those “people” wrong – you know, all those people saying Joba needed to be in the pen ’cause they didn’t have a “real” 8th inning bridge to Mo. Because I don’t get the impression that Bruney is a blow-hard, and after all his hard work, and the success he had last season, it was probably difficult to hear all those people saying the Yankees didn’t have a good enough bullpen.
pat –
I liked the outcome of this game too. Yesterday was fun, don’t get me wrong, but today is more realistic and it shows they can win a game without the pyrotechnics.
An aside, Cole Hamels got rocked today, 7 ERs. I guess it happens to WS MVPs too…CC & Wang you are forgiven.
Good game now hope the Sux lose!
Doreen, good points – I agree. It’s annoying when people just trash the Yankees pen for no good reason – I like that Bruney takes that personally and has a chip on his shoulder, but he has to use that emotion for him and not against him. He’s got to channel his emotions properly
Pettitte was great, which was the story of the game.
Betsy
Doreen, good points – I agree. It’s annoying when people just trash the Yankees pen for no good reason.
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Put another way, I don’t think there is any good reason to trash the Yankees’ pen.
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Agreed. And the last 2 appearances, it looks like he’s got things under better control.
Big story from the first 4 games is Cano hitting like we expect. I’m very excited hopefully he makes the AS team over that undeserving garden gnome this year
Varitek is starting the year very Giambi-like circa 2008. He’s only gotten 2 hits, is batting .167 but both of the hits were HRs.
Who gives two hoots about the Nets game, our post game gets cut short.
With a rotation like they now have, this team should not have too many long losing streaks.
With ARod back batting 4th (and Matsui at 6th perhaps) they should average 4-5 runs per game, unless they hit a really hot opposing pitcher.
The bullpen is young and tough. The greatest closer of all time remains so.
Cashman has done his work. Barring a major injury, the team will do theirs.
I don’t give a flying fig about the Nets, Jennifer…….but YES thinks there are people that do, lol.
Cano has always been talented – if it all comes together for him, look out. Didn’t he make the AS team in 2007, but couldn’t play because he was injured? That was disappointing.
I wonder what would have happened if the game ran long. Would they have left the Yankee game to go to the net?
No, the Nets have been bumped for Yankee baseball in the past. They just throw the nets on UPN 9 or something.
There would be a lot more Nets fans if ownership wasn’t dead set on moving to freaking brooklyn.
Bad decision to use MO in a 3-run game.
He is coming off shoulder surgery and is 40 yrs old. He is facing the Royals, not the Red Sox.
We couldn’t throw anyone out there to get 3 outs for us with a 3 run lead? Alba? Veras?
Manager’s are too ‘by-the-book’. A 3 run lead should not be automatic to go to your closer.
Nice win, shoulda been a shutout. Who is the idiot official scorer that called that blown pop up a hit?
I’m still waiting to see that great Gardner defense. So far he’s been late on every deep shot, pulled an Abreu at the fence in today’s game and failed to get into position if Swisher missed the popup.
I’m looking for Melky to get his first start Saturday with Nady in RF, Swisher LH, Damon DH and Matsui on the bench.
Yeah, Gardner’s defense has been very suspect.
Atleast we knew Melky would be depended on in the field. If neither is going to hit, I’d rather have the superior fielder.
It looks like Gardner has trouble picking up the ball. He gets to the spot, but he doesn’t get his glove near it. I think they’ll be working with him to see if they can coach him up.
Regarding Gardner vs. Melky on defense…it’s early folks. If we were at the 10 game mark I could understand the impatience on this board, but just 4 games? You gotta give a player a real shot, don’t you think?
It’s actually a disturbing trend in the way he approaches balls hit over his head. It really hasn’t anything to do with it being early, unfortunately. He had this issue last year, and also in Spring Training.
The hope is, if they insist on staying with him, that they address it.
“UPDATE, 6:58 p.m.: Gee, wouldn’t it be better if Joba Chamberlain used his considerable skills to face Miguel Olivio, Alberto Callaspo and Coco Crisp in a three-run game instead of maybe throwing seven innings on Sunday?”
Pete,
I disagree with you on certain things, but this may be the most cogent argument on this subject I’ve ever heard.