A.J., we’re all counting on you
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Yes, A.J. Burnett starts tonight against the Rays. But that’s not what we’re talking about.
He is scheduled to face Carl Pavano at the Stadium on Sunday.
Yes, that Carl Pavano. The American Idle. The Rajah of Rehab. The bandit who made away with $39.95 million dollars of Yankee money in return for 27 starts over four years. That Carl Pavano.
The pride of region rests on your shoulders, A.J. If the Idle comes back to the Bronx and beats the Yankees it’ll be a shame that could ruin the rest of the season.
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Back in a while with the lineups.
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hey pete, just saying, you should rename the picture file to be like carl pavano.jpg
LOL, but let’s just worry about tonight first.
AJ has absolutely no wiggle room tonight, which is unfortunate. Jeter’s not hitting – really, only Cano and Swisher are. I expect a good performance from AJ because he seems able to channel his emotions positively and likes the challenge of quieting the home crowds (and they will be crazy tonight, getting their rings and all). However, if he doesn’t pitch well, I hope we won’t start going into panic mode.
We have got to win tonight!!! It was so horrible being at that game last night…I had to leave in the 2nd inning because of how bad the rays fans were!!
Pete, you’re giving pavano too much credit. He may not make the start this weekend. 5 days is a long time for him to stay healthy.
I know my fellow Yankee fans will not let me down on opening day when they shower Pavano with love..I mean hate when he is announced. I am sure the fans will show him how they feel about him robbing the Yankees. Also the fans that sit in the bleachers over the visitors bullpen will show him love also on Sunday.
AJ is going to have a dynamite season and Idle will stub his toe walking onto the field and need several months of rehab before returning to the most racist team in baseball (I’m talking of course about the Cleveland “First People”).
>The bandit who made away with $39.95 million dollars of
>Yankee money in return for 27 starts over four years.
This nickname needs shortening.
Cano seems to have cooled off the last few games. He hasn’t walked in 3 games, and has struck out 4 times during the span. Hopefully he doesn’t revert to being the streaky hitter he was last year (and the year before that too).
Pavano surrendered all kinds of yogurt during his time in the Bronx and will surely get a chilly reception from the hometown faithful. The Yankees probably could care less about him, they hated him when he was here. That being said…I’m sure Jeter and Posada in particular would love to knock him around on the field.
Cano has always been streaky, and never walked much. That is not going to change.
He should, however, hit better than last year this season. But he is what he is… a low OBP guy who swings at everything.
Guy’s “Surrender the yogurt” reference: nice!
Love the post with the battle against Pavano!
Now for the daily how to get Swisher into the lineup talk, if Tex plays. Either Nady sits or Matsui. Matsui has looked dreadful and ancient. Not only hitting wise but he can’t move. So I am nominating him for bench duty.
If Carl Pavano is pitching Sunday, it is a good day to stay off the highway and take public transportation.
any way to dump the dh for one game and plunk idle?
“He should, however, hit better than last year this season. But he is what he is… a low OBP guy who swings at everything.”
Yeah, maddening isn’t it? I’ve heard him say (via reporters) that he’s “only swinging at strikes this year.” Good thinking, Robi!
That’ll be 3 pressure starts for A.J. in a row!
“any way to dump the dh for one game and plunk idle?”
We could trade for Ankiel, put him on the mound, and let him accidentally hit Carla while he’s in the dugout.
I am all for sitting Matsui too.
Truer words were never spoken, a Pavano win at the Stadium would be an utter shame.
There’s no way Pavano makes that start on Sunday. I guarantee he suffers a “strain” on Thursday while de-boarding the plane.
That is a great point about pavano. What is bothering me is that the $423 million spent over the summmer about 50-55 million a year is actually lest than the $58 million that came off the books for bad players like Pavano and Giambi, who meaning Giambi was making about 18 million a year to bat 201 a serious joke. So please people stop bringing up the money spent this off season.
I can already hear the boos Pavano is gonna be getting from the Yankee fans
Pete that is classic!!! TOOO FUNNY!
Mel- I went to Modells and to the Yankee Clubhouse shop and no luck on the Swisher shirt. Maybe the stadium store will have it. fingers crossed.
…I miss the return of Carl Pavano by one $@#$@# game. It’s the story of my life.
“Now for the daily how to get Swisher into the lineup talk, if Tex plays. Either Nady sits or Matsui. Matsui has looked dreadful and ancient. Not only hitting wise but he can’t move. So I am nominating him for bench duty.”
How about Swisher in LF, Damon in CF, Nady in RF. Damon’s got to play a little CF this year, no? The Rays are fast, but his arm stinks no matter where he plays. We need as many major leaguers out there as possible against the defending AL champs.
I think Posada plays, so he can rest on Wednesday and be ready for Opening Day Thursday. My lineup:
Jeter ss
Damon cf
Tex (fingers crossed) 1b
Posada c
Swisher lf
Matsui dh
Nady rf
Cano 2b
Pena (Ransom needs a break… and I need a break from watching him) 3b
my guess is he’ll hurt himself plucking his eyebrows and have to sit out in order to avoid all of the boos.
That is NOT a realistic pic of Pavano, the bag seems way too heavy, he’d get injured picking it up.
Sunday Refrain for Carl Pavano
Carl P. tried to pitch much better, but his pleadings were denied.
That leaves only Cash to blame cause Carl P. died.
Can we get AJ to take out a restraining order so that the Rajah doesn’t infect him with Glass Jaw Syndrome?
There has sure been lots of love for Swisher the last several days on this blog but how long will it last?
Probably not long since Swisher will hit a cold spell eventually.
A large contingent of fans on this board are among the first to praise and even idolize players who perform well and then won’t hesitate to kick them in the stomach with steel toed boots when they hit a slide or make a critical error in the field.
Unfortunately, it happens all the time on this board. Swisher is very likely to be a Yankee for the next three seasons so people are going to have to live with both the highs and lows of his game.
sorry, didn’t see the new thread:
“i may be mistaken , but it appears he being coached by eiland to raise his arm slot.
this is a case where my old school eyes are in sync with the new school PItch/FX”
randy,
First off you really have to start looking at pitch f/x – even an old school stick in the mud such as yourself.
If you remember – over a year ago I sent you a link with pitch f/x data and told you to take a look. It’s simply fascinating stuff.
And one of reason’s why is that it exists at the intersection of scouting and statistical analysis. The whole scouting vs. numbers debate really become artificial with pitch f/x because it is directly assessing the process of performance and not just the outcome of performance.
That said regarding Wang. I really, really don’t think Dave Eiland has anything to do with this.
Major league pitching coaches don’t reteach major league pitcher’s arm slots unless there is a disaster going on. They would never simply change the arm slot of a 19 game winner. That’s very far fetched.
I think the much more likely explanation is that Wang simply hasn’t pitched much due to the injury and he’s simply lost his arm slot.
Here’s part of what I was trying to say with fault tolerance yesterday (and glad you liked that angle…)
Part of fault tolerant design is the capacity for a system to essentially “self-correct.”
The issue with Wang is that he really has trouble doing this. He loses his mechanics and his arm slot and two things happen 1) he doesn’t make in game adjustments rapidly enough to get that arm slot back (we see this in those odd innings he has that come out of nowhere); 2) he doesn’t have a mix of pitches that allow him to have redundancy should his power sinker not work.
Randy – right now his release point is literally one whole foot less horizontal and half a foot higher vertically. He has to be able to sense this and know there is a big problem himself and be able to change that. Do you think CC or Roy Halladay wouldn’t sense something like that and have a game plan to change it.
Of course the pitching coach needs to be involved and active. I’m sure Eiland is. But Eiland is not teaching him a new arm slot. I’m sure he’s trying to fix it. But Wang has to be more self-correcting. He needs to have a better sense of what’s going on with his own mechanics. He needs to mix in his change more.
I think we’re really on the same page here but where we disagree a bit is on this. You feel that if Wang stick to what he has gotten him here he’ll be fine because other teams, even when they know what’s coming, can’t get lift off of him.
My concern is that Wang’s approach – what has made him so successful – is too brittle, to prone to disruption, that he isn’t good at reestablishing his own baseball equilibrium because he doesn’t self correct well enough. In addition I am concerned that against better teams (e.g. sox, rays) that they force him to come up in the zone and he needs a better mix of pitches.
Performance is ultimately up to the player. I think Wang is terrific and I’m not concerned about him at all. But he needs to be more in charge of fixing himself, more capable to doing it. I was willing to give him more of a pass on this when he was in year 1-3 of his career but now he should be maturing in ways which let him self-correct.
What’s good about the issue being his arm slot is that once he get’s it back – which he will – his ball will start to sink again.
This has happened to him before – though not to this extent. He’s corrected and he’ll do it again – it’s a matter of minimizing the damage while he’s regaining his mechanics.
Tough task for AJ tonight… don’t know how many runs we will get off Garza with our compromised lineup. We’re not facing Alfredo Simon like last week.
The pen is absolutely toast too.
kd- Actually he’ll get burnt waxing it.
luds- too funny, you guys have me in stitches here!
Damon playing CF against the Rays’ team speed would be a terrible idea. You have two other guys on the roster better defensively in center in order to keep Johnny from being out there against teams like this who will go first to third all night long on his arm. I wouldn’t be surprised if Melky was back in center, just to keep the defense at its peak.
Interview with Philippon. Surgery was more than labrum repair, before May 15 sounds possible with no setbacks and sliding into contact is the biggest issue until he is fully healed.
http://bats.blogs.nytimes.com/.....-to-a-rod/
BTW I noticed this yesterday but CitiField that OF really is like a football field, I feel sorry for the OFs
I could see this being a 3-2 game, either way.
AJ has to step up. Don’t want to go home 4-5 or get swept and go home at 3-6.
I worry about the lineup vs. Garza more than AJ tonight.
None of the boys except Swish are swinging the bat well. Cano has cooled off too.
Jeter/Matsui/Damon are off to rough starts. Garnder and Ransom are obviously giving us nothing. Nady is Nady.
‘Cano has cooled off too.’
He’s had a hit in almost every game this season. He’s batting around the .400’s
“You have two other guys on the roster better defensively in center in order to keep Johnny from being out there against teams like this who will go first to third all night long on his arm. ”
With Damon’s arm and their speed, they have no problem going 1st to 3rd on him even when he’s in LF. They don’t respect his arm at all, nor should they.
I agree with Francessa – Tampa may be better than both the Yanks and Sox. They make plays we can only dream of
jennifer,
Even when the shirts become available, they’ll be tough to find!
pat,
Watched a little of the sOx/OAK game yesterday. Lowell let a single (bullet, really) pass under his glove because he didn’t want to dive. The OAK announcers were very matter of fact about it, like it was to be expected coming off the surgery. I want A-rod back, but we need him to field the position (and please guys, no comments about Ransom).
Tex has to play tonight if the Yanks want to win. The lineup is dreadful without him. Especially when Posada doesn’t play. Ransom, Molina, Gardner is pathetic. When does the Pena experiment start?! I can’t watch Ransom attempt to hit major league pitching.
Canó may have cooled off, but he has 10 hits-the most on the team.
Swisher leads the team in HR, RBI, Avg, OBP and runs scored.
You know what? So what if it’s a love affair? Let it last while it does. It makes the game _fun_.
I mean, isn’t having fun why you became a fan in the first place?
“He’s had a hit in almost every game this season. He’s batting around the .400’s”
True, but his at-bats haven’t been as good. Hasn’t walked in awhile, and is starting to hit those weak groundballs on pitches that he shouldn’t be swinging at. Hopefully this year will be different than last year.
That play he botched, when Pena had clearly called for ball, was BRUTAL last night. The SS should be captaining the infield, and he completely ignored him. That irked me more than anything else last night.
I’ll be there Sunday, what luck to get tickets for the mighty Carl Pavano’s return. Oh I hope he actually pitches
One of these days, Swisher is going to have an 0-4 game too. I pray it isn’t tonight… we need him to stay hot considering most of our other hitters are ice cold.
Tampa could be better then the Yankees and Sox. but it’s still early and we don’t really know for sure yet.
They made some crazy sick plays in the field but that’s not what lost the Yankees the game.
Wang pitches well and they win last night, I really don’t care about BJ Upton catching that ball.
Vin –
Never mind putting him on the mound to plunk Pavano … If I was to trade for Ankiel I’d keep him in CF.
True, that the lineup is pitiful. But our lowest run total is 4 runs in win?
We need to stop fretting about the offense. Even with Tex & A-rod, and a non-slumping Jeter (yeah, I said it) they would be unable to overcome what occurred yesterday.
We might have been able to get back the other 3 losses, they were pretty close. But it’s so hard to come back so many times in just the first week!
I’ll be there Sunday too!!! Can’t wait to greet Pavano!! That is if he pitches, I think he’ll look to duck the game. I really don’t expect to see him on the mound.
The game is on MY9 tonight… that means we provably won’t get postgame reaction from AJ. They normally only show the manager.
And we get to see Joel Sherman and Russ Salzber
“They make plays we can only dream of”
That play Upton made was OUTSTANDING! There are so many times when you see a CF (or a infielder going back on a ball) gear up to make the basket catch, only to find them lose track at the last second and drop the ball. The fact that he caught up to the ball, and made the catch just as he was starting to come into contact with the wall was unbelievable. He and Adam Jones may be the two best CFers in the game right now.
Austin Jackson batting 6th and playing LF today. Seems odd to be down the order and playing in left field.
I am starting to think we’ll see Austin Jackson sooner than later.
So did Kim Jones berate Coke yesterday?
ANSKY,
Which is why the deal makes so much sense! I’ve actually read he’s not a great CFer… has a good arm obviously, but doesn’t take great routes. More of a corner outfielder, but he’s got to be better than Gardner/Melky/Damon/Swisher.
AJax has been batting 6th all year so far. But LF, hmmmmm?
“First off you really have to start looking at pitch f/x – even an old school stick in the mud such as yourself.”
cb-
you’re right. i do remember you giving me the f/x link before, and i agree it’s great stuff. i think we’re mostly in agreement with wang. the only difference is that i have more inside info on wang and you have more f/x info and systems understanding , so our conclusions differ a bit but we do agree the arm slot has to drop back to his normal one.
i have some work i have to do and i’ll get back to you on this, but are you so sure eiland isn’t trying to raise wang’s arm slot ?
for an athlete,one of the hardest things to do is to stop doing what comes natural whether it’s a good habit or bad habit. i could see wang erode a little off natural, but a foot off? it doesn’t seem possible unless he was trying to do it. why he would be trying to do that is another question.
good discussion though form you, patrick, wave your hat,g.love, pel etc on this.
one more point: when a pitcher erodes his arm slot it usually drops ;it doesn’t go up. up takes work. it almost has to be an intention because up doesn’t happen on it’s own. the tendency is to drop the release point not raise it.
Based on the Raja last start, I ain’t too worried.
Good post CB,
The topic has been discussed ad naseum, but I’ve always felt Wang’s lack of self-correction is the real reason he can’t be considered a true ace. An ace is a guy who can make a start in the postseason and keep his team in the game even without his best stuff. Wang can’t do that – as we witnessed vs. Cleveland.
I totally forgot the Rajah of Rehab will be announced to the crowd at the stadium during Opening Day!!!! I mean, dang, it’s going to be a GLORIOUS day just to hear the hate in person!
The loss was 100% on Wang. Teams look bad when you give up 9 runs without recording an out in the 2nd.
He needs to right himself and he needs to do it now. We also need to figure this bullpen out soon too.
Austin Jackson walks. He’s starting walk. Maybe developing a better eye?
On the positive side regarding Wang, I just noted from Elias that the last Yankee to allow 15 runs or more in the first two starts of the season was David Cone in 1998. That season went ok for him (20-7, 3.55) and the team.
Two words on Wang -
Sell High.
‘True, but his at-bats haven’t been as good. Hasn’t walked in awhile, and is starting to hit those weak groundballs on pitches that he shouldn’t be swinging at. Hopefully this year will be different than last year.’
Going into yesterday Robi was 2 for 17 vs Kazmir and he got a hit last night. BTW other than Nick Swisher you can say the same for everyone. Robi’s last walk was Apr. 10th and he should have walked in that game vs Meche but the ump kept calling a crappy game.
‘That play he botched, when Pena had clearly called for ball, was BRUTAL last night. The SS should be captaining the infield, and he completely ignored him. That irked me more than anything else last night.’
That was what got to me, I understand the veteran doing that to a rookie but Pena clearly said I got it, Robi IMO was trying to do too much last night.
Vegas gives 2 to 1 odds on Pavano suffering some kind of season-ending injury before the game against the Yankees.
Hey could be worse, the Sox really look pathetic right now. We’ve got some depth to deal with Matsui looking so bad right now…the Sox have just lost Lowrie, Drew and Ortiz look old and their pitching isn’t that great.
Our starters look great so far (except for Wang who doesn’t have a clue right now) and we have to sort out the pen. Out of our 4 loses right now 3 can be hung on the CC and Wang having mechanical problems and 1 can be hund on the offense/bullpen.
Hang tight my fellow Yankee fans. Getting Tex and ARod back will help us while we figure out the pen and the Wanger. We’ve got nothing if not a lot of bullpen arms in the system. All will be well…
‘Austin Jackson walks. He’s starting walk. Maybe developing a better eye?’
September call up.
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Lowell is 6+ months post surgery. I would think that far out he should be healed enough to dive for a ball.
Might be more a mental hesitance than a physical one.
I guess the question they’ll have to answer is whether Alex at less than 100% is better than 100% of another option defensively.
Wow Met fans really hate Citi Field.
who else just heard that caller on Francesa? hahaha. Sadly I have no idea what exactly he said but I am taking it he really doesnt like the new stadium.
“I mean, dang, it’s going to be a GLORIOUS day just to hear the hate in person!”
I actually think it would be more entertaining if they gave him an over-the-top gratuitous applause. Something usually reserved for a Paul O’Neill or Yogi. The overt sarcasm would really crack me up.
pat,
I only care, really, about whether or not the worse case scenario on the field is going to kill his hip. Because Alex will follow instinct and won’t hesitate to make a play.
Because it doesn’t look like a Mets Park & sadly but unfunny it’s true. The back stop looks like Philly, The outside looks like San Francisco meets Arizona meets San Diego and the RF upper deck looks like Boston.
lol some Mets fans are upset about Citi Field, not enough Mets stuff around the field
Poll Question:
Will Tex be in the starting lineup today?
Yes or no?
The callers are whining like Citifield should be demolished today. It can’t be that bad. I have a feeling we’ll get a similiar reaction next week after the New Yankee Stadium opens. Not because it’s bad but because people who call sports radio shows are usually miserable by nature.
wanna know what’s more funny? Gerut christianing Citifield with its first home run. no wonder the fans are already hating it.
Finally, here is one person who actually likes Citifield.
I thought Citifield looked great on T.V., they do need a little more ‘Mets’ but that can be fixed
Ed I knew he was going to hit it. I called the shot before it happened.
Copelius
great fact you posted.wang will be very good once he gets it going.
How can they not like Citifield? Wasn’t Shea Stadium a dump. Oh, wait. It was THEIR dump?
“Ed I knew he was going to hit it. I called the shot before it happened.:
One thing I noticed from last night’s pitch f/x data is that for any type of pitch Wang threw last night, there was very little change of velocity.
The fastball went from 90.5 to 91.6, the sinker from 90.2 to 91.7, the change from 79.7 to 81 and the slider from 81.2 to 82.2.
I don’t think that’s enough variation in speed to be effective against major league hitters. Especially when, again according to pitch f/x data, the path of each type of pitch diverged from each other relatively soon in the pitch which might have allowed the Rays hitters to adjust to each pitch sooner.
For those of you better versed in mechanics than me, could a small change in release point account for that?
can mike lamb play 3rd for 3 weeks
‘I thought Citifield looked great on T.V., they do need a little more ‘Mets’ but that can be fixed’
Yeh I mean it has no blue and orange, it basically has a AT&T Park meets Chase Field meets Cinergy, it just doesn’t look like thier park, I’d be pissed too. I mean imagine if our park looked like it wasn’t for our team, you watch them on t.v. and think they should play w/ road unis.
after seeing Gerut christianing Citifield, you have to wonder if **our very own** fans will react the same way if either home runs hitter such as Sizemore, Hafner, or Martinez will hit the first one?
Like Wallace Matthews said: if you didn’t know where you was at you wouldn’t be able to tell that the Mets played there.
It’s true Citi Field looks like your typical retro park with brick and exposed steal.
Glad the Yankees didn’t do the usual brick/steal and went in another direction.
Only problem with NYS is the CF restaurant obstructed seats but it is only $5 dollars and it’s expensive.
I’ve been lucky enough to visit both new stadiums. I think Citifield is just gorgeous, but I agree that the Rotunda feels like a Dodgers museum.
As for the new Yankee Stadium– it’s a mammoth park, it’s simply epic. As oppose to Citifield’s cozy/family friendly atmosphere, the NYS fits the grandeur of the team.
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The nature of the beast makes this the most high profile patient he has ever had. Kepner says the 2 got very close the last 5 weeks so he knows how much Alex will push himself. The docs reputation takes every swing and dive that Alex does so I doubt he’d clear him to do anything he thought would hurt either of them.
Citi Field looks like Camden Yards to me, at least on TV it does.
I say Tex plays.
The question is: Who has the better deal: The Yankees, who paid Pavano $40M NOT to pitch for them, or the Indians, who are paying him ~$1.5M to ACTUALLY pitch for them…..
Bob
This caller can’t see anything?
So I guess today is discuss CitiField day with Francesa?
Anyone know when the Opening Day festivities/ceremonies begin on Thursday?
Pavano and Burnett starting against each other has the potential to be so fantastic and rewarding for Yankee fans…or utterly devestating.
If Pavano was a stock, Pete would be shorting it forever.
Mets fans will get used to the park. The Yanks are pretty much the only team that basically built the same park inside. Most teams have to get used to a new look…Camden Yards looks nothing like Memorial Stadium, AT&T Park looks nothing like Candlestick, Citizens Bank Park looks nothing like Veterans Stadium. I don’t get the “It doesn’t look like the Mets ballpark” complaint.
pat,
How close? I heard they took all the mirrors away from Alex. Wonder if he it turned into transference?
Yeah, I’m 51/49 on Tex playing. This is a must-win in my eyes.
Speaking of 50/50, Accuscore has tonight’s matchup as dead-even.
http://phoenix.fanster.com/wor....._field.jpg
No more like Chase Field.
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are there really any must wins the second week of the season.? That said, we need a win tonight.lol
Wow, AJ came to be the number 3 pitcher, but he keeps getting the though assignments: pitching after consecutive loses on two separate occasions early in the season, and keeping the tribe at bay while the Yanks slaughter Pavano.
It is impossible for there to be a must win the first month of the season.
tampayank,
Yes, it’s a must win. I’m pulling for AJ to win a Cy Young. And I don’t want to hear any more whining about how much these April games are just as important as September ones.
“Anyone know when the Opening Day festivities/ceremonies begin on Thursday?”
The announcements I’ve heard ask all fans to be in their seats by noon. I know I will be!
tonight’s not a must win but there is some bleeding to stop.
Rays sent a message last night.
If you are weak, we will pounce.
And in my original post where I thought Tex would play, it’s because it’s must bounce-back win. Not really a must-win in the grand scheme of things, but nice to have because yesterday was so ugly.
It’s be cool to have an etch-a-sketch win.
Yankees are having some live band there as part of the ceremonies. Skycoasters will be performing. Never heard of them.
*It’d
Must-win or not… the Yanks just need Garza to spill the yogurt, so they can get back to NY with some confidence.
LOL Just heard that Beckett is being suspended for 6 games for intentionally throwing at Abreu in the Angels game.
No word if he will appeal.
And John Sterling still sucks.
Sterling thought the ball Nady hit/Upton caught was gone.
He actually said the ball was gone.
… or at the very least surrender the yogurt.
You guys following this Scranton game? I wonder if they could play better than the Yankees?
Kevin Cash off to a phenominal start. But they have him in a Portland Seadogs cap.
LOL @ Sterling. Francesa going over his calls from last night.
So if this is a must win, then does it mean the Yankees are not making the playoffs if they lose? After all, the only important goal in the regular season is that the Yankees qualify for the postseason. I cannot fathom how this is a must win situation.
“He actually said the ball was gone.”
Hey Sterling, just because you can’t see the ball, doesn’t mean it’s gone! In fact, it won’t be long before all the announcers just start giving Upton the benefit of the doubt.
Mike! Al – ba – la – day – yo
Those of you who know me, know that I’m so far from the ledge, I’m in the basement.
Everyone else, forget I even said it.
Breaking news- Joshy was suspended 6 games.
Beckett suspended 6 games
Poor Beckett that loser…
here’s the website of the band that’s playing the opener.
A cover band?
First class all the way.
http://www.skycoasters.com/
Didn’t Swisher say that he doesn’t like Beckett?
He’ll probably appeal it, and get it knocked down to 4.
‘Beckett suspended 6 games’
That just means a Yankee will get 12 – 18 gms.
Yep when he was with the a’s he was caught on camera saying he didn’t like Joshy. I hope swish wears two helmets the day he faces him.
“I cannot fathom how this is a must win situation.”
It’s the 8th game of the season. It most certainly is not a must win situation. However, it is a game I feel they need to win – if only to get rid of the stink of the last two games.
Also, people have been talking about fixing Wang’s delivery. Now, I think they need to also fix his mindset. He did not look good after he was taking out. You don’t want him getting into a mental funk where he’s either afraid to pitch or has such low confidence that he stinks because of it. I’d give him one more start and if his problems continue, I’d send him down to the minors to get him straightened out.
He can appeal it, but they’re still going to make him miss a start.
“Beckett suspended 6 games”
First of all, I have to say that I’m shocked by this. You mean the MLB actually suspends BOS players? Who knew?
Second, this will get knocked down to 3 or 4 games so that lessens my joy.
Lastly, this should be changed to starts. Who cares if he’s suspended 6 games if it only means he misses 1 start? They need to make this a rule. Pitchers get suspended “starts”; regular players get games.
Don’t mess with Bobby Aboo Aboo or else!
That is what the commish just said
“Didn’t Swisher say that he doesn’t like Beckett?”
Yep.
proof: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rgZi-zaOshQ
Ransomes been okay at third? what is he watching?
Too bad this isn’t the wild, wild west.
Imagine if Beckett appealed, and upon further review MLB upped the suspension for inciting, not one, but two riots?
jennifer April 14th, 2009 at 2:35 pm
Ransomes been okay at third? what is he watching?
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I don’t think Francesa has been watching all that closely. lol
Six games so he appeals, pitches, drops the appeal skips 6 games and has his start pushed back 2 days. They have to find another way to suspend starting pitchers.
“Pitchers get suspended “starts”; regular players get games.”
As a percentage of games played, it works out. Starters go 33-35 times. Everyday players play around 150. Most suspensions for players are 3 games. 2% of a season. A missed start represents about the same.
“For those of you better versed in mechanics than me, could a small change in release point account for that?”
wave your hat-
i’m not even close to being an expert in pitching mechanics , but i wouldn’t think a change in release point would make all the respective pitches the same speed.
i think speed variation on a specific pitch is just a decision by the pitcher to change speeds. i know it’s become a running joke with livan hernandez on the blog , but he doesn’t just throw slow- he throws slow, slower, and slowest. that’s how he stays in the majors with his lack of velocity.
i think wang was so lost that changing speeds was the last thing on his mind.
as far as mechanics goes, even girardi himself when asked about wang said that he can’t see what wang is doing with his eyes and that he defers to eiland on that stuff. as a catcher , he of course knows some things about pitching mechanics, but it’s more limited than what we’d think.
pat-
“Interview with Philippon. Surgery was more than labrum repair, before May 15 sounds possible with no setbacks and sliding into contact is the biggest issue until he is fully healed.”
http://bats.blogs.nytimes.com/.....-to-a-rod/
Thanks for the link. Answered all my questions about fulfilling his contract and being able to slide.
Wang, IMO, should be put on the 15 day DL[ make up some excuse] and go to Tampa, to work on his mechanics.
Juan Cruz would be looking real nice now in a Yankee uniform!
Steve B, too logical it will never happen.
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It would be the healthiest relationship he’s had in a long time.
Joshy gets 6 so they can knock it down to 5 on appeal because anything under 5 games is a joke.
A band for the Opener? Gotta be in the Hard Rock I would imagine. Read this morning the Opener has an F16 flyover planned.
Maybe we should move Joba to long relief and bring up Hughes? (just stirring the pot)
“Pitchers get suspended “starts”; regular players get games.”
There’s really no way to enforce that, other than suspending them by games. Who determines when the guy was supposed to make his next start? What they should do is suspend him for 9 days retroactive to the day of the infraction, this way he can’t just come back on 6 or 7 days rest, instead of the usual 4 or maybe 5.
Possitives so far this season.
1.4 of the 5 pitchers have already shown dominating #1 stuff.
2. We have had the chance to tie or win games in 3 of the 4 loses. Team has fight in them.
3. Nick Swisher is the most valuable player thus far on the team. Awesome pickup.
4. We have scored 5 runs a game without Alex in the lineup.
5. Our bullpen is very deep and if not over used. Best IMO in the a.l..
6. The defense is much improved with Tex at first.
7. Cano has shown patience this year at the plate and a much improved glove.
8. ??
Beckett’s suspension is a complete indictment of that stupid mouth breath arrogant umpire Cowboy Joe West who refused to kick Beckett out of the game and then after the game said Beckett didn’t do anything wrong.
I hate Joe West because he’s one of those idiotic umps who thinks he’s bigger than the game and injects himself in it.
I thought he let Beckett off the hook because he was impressed with the “cowboy” in him for doing what he did.
Glad to see MLB think otherwise.
“Steve B, too logical it will never happen.”
Yankee U:
I’m acutally agreeing with the way they punish pitchers. The loss of one start for a starting pitcher is akin, percentage-wise, to an everyday player losing 3 three games. I’m OK with that.
That news of Alex’s surgery was very surprising and in a very good way.
Most of what we’d heard about this “hybrid” surgery was that they would only repair his labrum while not fixing the bone. The tear in the labrum was more a symptom of the problem he had with the formation of the bone in his hip socket. The bone was essentially eating into his labrum.
But the surgery phillipon described was much larger. They actually fixed part of the bone abnormality in his hip.
Amazing that he could come back so quickly.
This also bodes well for next off season because the other procedure he may need will be significantly smaller. All that’s left for them to do is to repair the top part of his femur.
By Tim Dierkes [April 14 at 9:01am CST]
An attempt at crafting a lineup out of current free agents…
C – Javier Valentin
1B – Frank Catalanotto
2B – Ray Durham
SS – Damion Easley
3B – Mike Lamb
LF – Wily Mo Pena
CF – Jim Edmonds
RF – Geoff Jenkins
DH – Frank Thomas
Baseball Musings’ lineup analysis tool says the batting order should be:
1. Frank Catalanotto
2. Frank Thomas
3. Ray Durham
4. Wily Mo Pena
5. Mike Lamb
6. Geoff Jenkins
7. Jim Edmonds
8. Damion Easley
9. Javier Valentin
That tool plus CHONE project this American League lineup at 4.562 runs per game. That would’ve ranked 11th in the AL last year, ahead of the Blue Jays, Royals, Mariners, and A’s. One problem…this may be the worst defensive fake team ever assembled.
See anyone there worth signing to a minor league deal??
“8. ??”
Posada.
He was the biggest and in many ways most important question going into the season.
He looks fantastic at the plate and back to baseline in the field.
There’s no way to underestimate how important that is.
The only way that a starting pitching is going to get punished is to suspend him for 11-12 days. It forces him to miss one start and set them back one additional game. Otherwise, all it does is juggle the rotation.
pat,
Ugh.
Beckett getting suspended has totally made my day
Yes, I know it’s immature to say that and I’m bring eons of bad karma, but you don’t throw at abreu’s head and hope to get away with it!
Kein Russo remains on fire with a 3-3 day and is hitting .414. Add in his 3rd stolen base and a run scored.
But a 5 or 6 game suspension does not really cost a pitcher a start, it only gives him a day or two extra rest. To balance a position player and a pitcher it should be at least 8 games.
I’d like to see one of the New York radio stations get something going to have evrybody show up with a sling, crutches, or fake cast, or whatever…at least a Band-Aid for Pavano’s game.
That would be hilarious.
“YES channel says Burnett shelved tonight, and word on why.”
someone is being called up?
can’t find confirmation on that Burnett story above anywhere – can someone post a link?
That pat is not me so don’t believe it.
“YES channel says Burnett shelved tonight, and word on why.”
WHAT!?!?
YES channel says Burnett shelved tonight, and word on why
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huh?
***Kevin*** Russo remains
“pat April 14th, 2009 at 2:47 pm
YES channel says Burnett shelved tonight, and word on why.”
What?
Maybe it’s not pat? I’m hoping it isn’t. Hoch would probably have twittered if something was up.
Guess no Steven Jackson, he’s pitching in Buffalo right now.
“That pat is not me so don’t believe it.”
Whew…
Glad to see the shenanigans are starting early today.
someone getting their jollies at the expense of everyone’s sanity?
Is anyone getting called up/sent down? Steven Jackson is pitching now and Robertson pitched 3 innings last night. Like Albladejo and maybe Edwar they can’t help anytime soon either.
Just email Pete. This is out of control.
Hey Swisher really looked awesome last night, i’m thinking he can totally step in and take a spot in the rotation. I mean he’s a Yankee and hes so laid back and cool, what could go wrong?
pat,
If that 2:55 pat is you, TG!
Wow pseudo-pat – I was getting very nervous and looking for that story. Glad I couldn’t find it.
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2:55 is me. I can prove it. Just not sure how.
They have to bring up someone for tonight game. Alba isn’t that good anyway and now he can’t pitch for 3-4 days. I figured it would be Claggett since he is on the 40 man. But it seems like they haven’t made a move yet. That is alittle scary if Burnett gets knocked around.
And since when is YES breaking news? That should’ve tipped us off.
ok dokie. trolls are already out on full force? this freaking early? wow…
Whew… I thought this thread might of gave Burnett Pavanoitus.
CB,
Cant believe i left out the leader of the team. Posada has been a pleasent surprise.
“2:55 is me. I can prove it. Just not sure how.”
you married? have any kids? if so, age? there pat,
pat,
Test question. Who’s the player that I warned you about?
While on the Yes network site to dispel the nasty rumor from “pseudopat,” this is a link I know you’ll enjoy, especially GB7 who will already have these figures etched to memory!
http://web.yesnetwork.com/team.....?oid=36019
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The Jenny Craig Valedictorian and he hasn’t broken my heart…..yet.
cb-
agree posada is doing great. that would have been a disaster if he couldn’t throw well. his throwing has been very strong.
Yankee Trader
April 14th, 2009 at 3:04 pm
While on the Yes network site to dispel the nasty rumor from “pseudopat,” this is a link I know you’ll enjoy, especially GB7 who will already have these figures etched to memory!
http://web.yesnetwork.com/team.....?oid=36019
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That sounds like a dig about my age. I’ll have you know that I’m only 20 years old. I enjoyed that so much, I’ve decided to try it again, the third time around.
Ed
Not sure why someone would impersonate me.
I’ve got a husband, 4 kids, 2 dogs and a significant mortgage so many days I don’t want to be me.
randy,
once wang gets straightened out (which he undoubtedly will) and Alex comes back this team has the chance to really do things.
Right now to me it’s about them doing well enough. Of course I’d like them to be doing better but given that Wang has been atrocious, Alex hurt and Tex nicked up the past few days it’s been ok.
The team is averaging over 5 runs a game and I honestly have no idea how that’s happening.
It’s fortunate that no team has taken off in the AL east – though I do think the Rays are poised to do that now.
BJ Upton. What a player.
“Juan Cruz would be looking real nice now in a Yankee uniform!”
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he’d get murdered on this blog. if Veras can’t walk one guy without people calling for his head, Cruz would be a disaster here.
The Yanks have far greater needs than the bullpen.
glad i get to boo pavano on sunday
and glad beckett got what was coming to him.
i was reading a red sox forum earlier, and tempted to respond, but nobody thought he deserved or would get a suspension since he didn’t hit Bobby and didn’t get ejected by the umpires. lol at those fans
“That sounds like a dig about my age. I’ll have you know that I’m only 20 years old”
gbd 7-
what’s that, in dog years ?
Burnett is out?!
“That sounds like a dig about my age.”
GB,
Think of the bright side. You can go watch a movie for half the price of what we pay. Being a senior has its rewards.
So I see Isiah Thomas is moving up in the world. He just took the most coveted job in the nation. FIU finally got their man. Watch out N.C.!!
pat, next time i will ask you that if i’m not sure if its you or not. lol
“It’s fortunate that no team has taken off in the AL east – though I do think the Rays are poised to do that now.”
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Once David Price comes up and presumably relieves Niemann, they’re going to be tough.
I still like the Yankees chances. Kazmir, for one, has had trouble holding up for an entire season and can also be streaky. That’s nitpicking but I still don’t see the Rays as a better team than NY (when both teams are healthy).
randy l.
April 14th, 2009 at 3:16 pm
“That sounds like a dig about my age. I’ll have you know that I’m only 20 years old”
gbd 7-
what’s that, in dog years ?
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I got in trouble for making a “dog reference” about someone. Take it back, or, I’m telling.
Betsy: No, just a troll
Betsy
Breathe. It was a troll impersonating me.
CB, what is your take on the Swisher pitching incident? Michael Kay said that, in his opinion, Nick was having way too much fun out there considering it was a blowout and the Yankees were being embarrassed. He doesn’t think this is the proper way for a Yankee to conduct himself – it sort of paints the Yankees as sort of clownish instead of business-like and dignified, which is how the are usually portrayed. He also thinks Swisher’s “act” will (and has) start rubbing people the wrong way, especially when he stops hitting like this. Posada, Andy, Mo, Jeter – Kay said that the vets weren’t happy (although Jeter made a comment in essence saying “that’s just Swish”).
I tend to think like Kay, although I really just think it was a poor decision by Joe – what happens if Swish comes up sore? Also, I didn’t see it, but I read that the starters were sort of laughing it up. I’m not sure that this is the tone we want to set for the season.
Thoughts?
“BJ Upton. What a player.”
after watching him steal two bases, make an amazing over the shoulder catch, and then down a beautiful bunt i was thinking that he ’s a throw back to the star players of negro league baseball.
this kind of player is the best thing about cracking down on peds.
“Breathe. It was a troll impersonating me.”
Or maybe it was pat from SNL.
“The team is averaging over 5 runs a game and I honestly have no idea how that’s happening.”
Nick Swisher and some timely hits.
But days on which we have Cabrera, Ransom, Molina and Gardner, or even Ransom, Molina and Gardner, in the lineup together are going to be run-challenged.
Whew, thanks Rebecca and Pat!
“i was reading a red sox forum earlier”
saucy,
You must have not gotten the memo.
Redsox read Yankee blogs
Yankees read Yankee blogs
S.o.S.
April 14th, 2009 at 3:17 pm
“That sounds like a dig about my age.”
GB,
Think of the bright side. You can go watch a movie for half the price of what we pay. Being a senior has its rewards.
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That’s not much of a bargain, though. Not any movies that I’d go to for free if they gave me a tub of buttered popcorn, a large Coke and a giant box of Jujube’s and Good-N-Plentys.
Make Kay stop!
Scraton game tied up. Jackson 1-3 with a steal, Run scored, RBI walk and strikeout.
It’s about time the discipline flowed the Red Sox way.
lol @ Michael Kay making a big deal about nothing, really.
“you’ve gotta show some level of decorum”
oh boy.
“He also thinks Swisher’s “act” will (and has) start rubbing people the wrong way, especially when he stops hitting like this. Posada, Andy, Mo, Jeter – Kay said that the vets weren’t happy…”
I like Swish. Perhaps it’s time to ease up on that rule against talking in the museum.
i agree with K…
I think they should have thrown Damon out there to pitch instead of Swish. I think with his blazing 45 mph fastball. He would have had players getting 3 strikes swinging on just one pitch. He would have deffinately thrown less pitched than Swish. Still kept the Swish smile though.
“I tend to think like Kay, although I really just think it was a poor decision by Joe – what happens if Swish comes up sore? Also, I didn’t see it, but I read that the starters were sort of laughing it up. I’m not sure that this is the tone we want to set for the season.”
Betsy, you didn’t ask me, but I wanted to chime in anyway. I have ABSOLUTELY no problem with what Swisher did. First of all, it was Game #7, not Game #161. Blowout are a part of baseball. While it is embarrassing, it’s not the end of the world. What’s wrong with trying to find some humor in it? I mean, really – who wouldn’t laugh at a position player all of a sudden pitching? I watched the clips of it and I thought it was funny….the only funny thing about that game.
As much as I love the Yankees, I think that sometimes, they treat the game too much like a business and not like the fun sport it’s supposed to be. This is a child’s game being played by grown men for millions of dollars. If you aren’t allowed to have any fun doing it, what’s the point?
Betsy,
I have no particular opinion of what Swisher did. In general I don’t like that sort of thing but it’s really, really not worth getting up on a moral high horse about.
Conversely, I do find it remarkable that there has been this outpouring of affection for Swisher. I’d have to guess that many of the people enraged that Jeter or Alex would chat with Ortiz or another member of the opposition and laugh are celebrating Swisher as some kind of populist hero. Swisher literally laughed on the mound during game action.
I find that dichotomy peculiar but that’s just me.
I don’t think Swisher should be knocked for what he did nor do I think he should be lauded for laughing in a game in which his team was utterly embarrassed. It just is what it is.
The only thing that I think matters is how his teammates would take it. If they are fine with it then I could care less.
If Posada, Jeter, CC and Tex, etc. are going to see that and get upset about it because it’s unprofessional then it’s an issue.
Depends on what his teammates think and secondarily what the other players facing him think.
why not forfeit the game before throwing ‘anybody’ out to pitch…its embarassing…
“I got in trouble for making a “dog reference” about someone. Take it back, or, I’m telling.”
gb7-
peter send you a reprimand email? i get those from time to time .
ok , as i don’t want to tempt fate, i take it back.
every time the blog is slow to load ,i figure i’ve been banned
As Pete said yesterday, Nick hadn’t pitched since 9th grade. What’s he supposed do, cry?
Kay is an idiot.
Anyone have odds on Pavano actually showing up this weekend to pitch? I’m guessing a phantom injury pops up tonight that will put him conveniently on the DL for the Yankees series.
Outside of Kay & Posada no one is making a big deal of Swisher having fun on the mound.
Hell even Francesa hasn’t made a big deal of it. And he’s mister Yankee. And usually finds a way to complain about everything.
Really it’s not a big deal. IMO
It’s OK for a hitter to get his first hit off of a pitcher and save the ball, but it’s not OK for Swisher to save the the ball from his first and most likely ONLY strikeout?
Give me a break.
Girardi knew how Swisher would act out there on the mound. He wasn’t born yesterday. Joe probably did it to lighten the mood.
Salvia now says maybe Nick now knows the line… What?
This is funnier than watching Kay run, which is hilarious.
I think Posada was more upset with Jones and the other media and their constant yammering about it last night.
Kay needs to chill out but that’s the job of sports talk radio, stir the pot
will swish get beaned tonight?
“i was thinking that he ’s a throw back to the star players of negro league baseball.”
Good comparison. I was thinking of baseball from the 1950’s.
What separates Upton from other physically gifted players is his patience at the plate.
He’s the whole package in CF. No doubt. He’s got the chance to be a 7 win player this year.
Kay should keep his mouth shut, and as for the “Old Guard” being peeved at Swisher, not to take any thing away but that last ring reads “2000″.
people are way too serious. it is just a game. and sometimes a good laugh helps the game go by better. it’s not like we’re in a race to the post season. its the beginning of the season. swish having fun out there made such a loss a little bit easier to handle
Swisher is definitely something else.
I realize Kay’s just doing his job, but the Swisher issue is so yesterday.
He wasn’t showing up the opponent, WE were the ones who were getting blown out. I’m sure the Rays were laughing all the way to the clubhouse. They don’t care, they won.
The only one who really sounded unhappy was Jorge. But I’m glad Swish took one for the team, and he didn’t embarrass himself at all. Looked better than Wakefield out there. I’m just shocked, absolutely shocked that Girardi asked the position players if anyone was up to the task.
baseball
will swish get beaned tonight?
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Is that a synonym for getting drunk?
beginning of year loss or end of year loss,,same thing…
we lose wildcard by one game,,do the math…
randy l.
April 14th, 2009 at 3:28 pm
“I got in trouble for making a “dog reference” about someone. Take it back, or, I’m telling.”
gb7-
peter send you a reprimand email? i get those from time to time .
ok , as i don’t want to tempt fate, i take it back.
every time the blog is slow to load ,i figure i’ve been banned
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LMaO. Yeah, but, I bet my “from time to time” lasts longer and takes up more computer space than yours do. I’ll bet you were never called his “hero”.
I LOVE Good-n-Plentys!
(used to love the commercial with “Choo-choo Charlie” – if this was an audio post, i could even sing it! The sugar-coated licorice is my favorite movie candy.
Who cares if Swisher gets hit? I don’t think he does. He was in heaven out there.
“I’m just shocked, absolutely shocked that Girardi asked the position players if anyone was up to the task.”
Desperate times call for desperate measures.
“That’s not much of a bargain, though. Not any movies that I’d go to for free if they gave me a tub of buttered popcorn, a large Coke and a giant box of Jujube’s and Good-N-Plentys.”
O.K. GB. Youv gone too far. How can you not go to a movie if they are offering all those goodies? Either you are too hooked on military food and the junk food in theatres dont do it for you, cant find your teeth or you already bring in those things to the movies from home. Hell they have my on matinee prices no free junk included.
“I’m just shocked, absolutely shocked that Girardi asked the position players if anyone was up to the task.”
plus girardi was probably trying to make a statement that even swisher can do a better job than the bullpen.
i hope swish does get hit…itll really fire them up!
(unless jorge subconsciously hates the way he acts ;] )
CB: I realize I’m really late in responding to you, but I thought I’d give it a go.
I like Nick Swisher because I like his attitude-baseball is a glorified wiffleball game.
He’s out there, trying to have fun. And you know what? Unlike Manny circa July 08 and some others, he’s not having fun at the expense or to the detriment of his team.
He’s having fun and he’s been the Yankees’ best player while doing so.
I fully expect he’ll come back to earth, but that he goes out there every day with a smile on his face…
It makes him seem so much more real, so much more human, than some of the other guys.
Doreen
April 14th, 2009 at 3:36 pm
I LOVE Good-n-Plentys! (used to love the commercial with “Choo-choo Charlie” – if this was an audio post, i could even sing it! The sugar-coated licorice is my favorite movie candy.
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Here you go, Doreen.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ExSlyoVTX3I
Girardi was the one who chose Swisher, and he said part of the reason he picked him was that he had the right personality for it. He also said he would take it in a way that he wouldn’t try to do too much and get injured. Joe had to know that Swish would be smiling up there, and have a good time with it… and if its good enough for Joe, then I’m perfectly fine with it.
SOS, forgive me!
i wasn’t sure if a decision on suspensions was made yet and just googled “Beckett Abreu suspension” this morning. “Sons of sam horn” was the first to come up….
“Buddy April 14th, 2009 at 3:32 pm
Kay should keep his mouth shut, and as for the “Old Guard” being peeved at Swisher, not to take any thing away but that last ring reads “2000”.”
exactly, the up tight approach hasn’t worked too well lately; being pissed off may help if you’re a Safety for the New York Giants where you can hit someone but in baseball being angry/tense will most likely make things worse…….Kay is just mad b/c Swish isn’t the normal politically correct cliche guy
“I tend to think like Kay, although I really just think it was a poor decision by Joe – what happens if Swish comes up sore?”
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Really now… if Swisher came up sore after lobbing in an innings worth of 70 mph balloons I’d say the whole Yankee training staff should be fired.
He throws more and harder than that just playing catch before a game. Hopefully he is athletic enough to endure the rigors of one goofy inning on the mound.
Some people worry over every single potential hangnail a player might get.
Beckett with a 6 game suspension for throwing at Abreu.
Nick Swisher is a great hero. He’s possibly our greatest living American and certainly our greatest living Yankee.
Kay is just towing the company line. Someone in the front office must be upset or something. The whole thing is stupid and blown out of proportion.
“beginning of year loss or end of year loss,,same thing…we lose wildcard by one game,,do the math…”
And from all of the loses the Yankees will have, how are you going to trace that one game back to this one? Maybe it was the KC loss. Maybe it was the first game of the season. The point people are trying to make is that we could see the guys being upset if Swisher is out there laughing it up during a blowout game while we are in the final throws of the pennant race. The Yankees have 155 more chances to win again. If they do their jobs, this game won’t even be in their memory banks (save for Swisher).
Good post, vin
S.o.S.
April 14th, 2009 at 3:37 pm
“That’s not much of a bargain, though. Not any movies that I’d go to for free if they gave me a tub of buttered popcorn, a large Coke and a giant box of Jujube’s and Good-N-Plentys.”
O.K. GB. Youv gone too far. How can you not go to a movie if they are offering all those goodies? Either you are too hooked on military food and the junk food in theatres dont do it for you, cant find your teeth or you already bring in those things to the movies from home. Hell they have my on matinee prices no free junk included.
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I plead guilty on all counts.
Laura,
I know. But this is…Girardi we’re talking about. But I love the outside the box thinking. And if you think about it, it really is old school.
No doubt, Swish would take a bullet for Girardi now, that’s if he wasn’t willing to do it before last night. As for the bullpen, they better show us how much they appreciate Swisher’s gesture by getting it together. I know Wang’s start killed us. But a lot of the pitchers were burned because of previous FAILS.
Good points, CB – now who knows if Kay is just so upset that he’s projecting his own emotions onto the veterans. Posada was upset about the game – I’m not sure he was pointedly upset about Nick. Kay is also not happy with Nick tipping his cap to Upton after his great play – I might agree with him there as well.
I love Nick, but the fans are going to disappear when he stops hitting like this – not that it’s a big deal. I like the guy a lot, he’s a good player and he’s a good guy to have in the clubhouse (he had that rep in Oakland as well). He’s not my favorite, though – I tend to gravitate towards the quieter players.
Laura, I tend to have a bigger problem with Joe putting Swish out there (or any position player). I think that does make a mockery of the game……I also tend to be something of a baseball purist. As a caller to Kay pointed out, he put Swisher, the most fun-loving player, out there; what did he expect? I still think the loss was embarrassing and I don’t particularly like the Yankees getting their kicks over it. That doesn’t mean I don’t prefer this clubhouse to that of recent years – I love that the new guys have meshed so beautifully and have influenced the clubhouse tenor to some degree. AJ calls them a bunch of cut-ups – that’s great. I would just have preferred the Yankees to take their medicine and go quietly into the evening.
update >>>
And Michael Kay is a moron.
This is the same guy that wonders out loud “I wonder when the last time a guy with the name Robinson faced a guy with the name Robinson” in a close game.
Yeah, he really cares about the sanctity of the game, lol.
It’s entertainment. Swisher is entertaining. Michael Kay is not.
honesty, i’m more worried about having ransom and matsui in our lineup than swisher coming in a pitching a scoreless inning. there are other things to worry about. kay is an ass.
Hell even Francesa hasn’t made a big deal of it. And he’s mister Yankee. And usually finds a way to complain about everything.
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I was actually surprised Francesa did not get his undies all twisted about it. He does always have something to complain about
As most of you know im not a stat geek. But if memory serve me correctly. In the past several years. Everytime the Yanks have been blown out/humiliated. They have comeback strong the next game with a win and at times started a long winning streak. Today is no different.
now kay is taking it and making a personal vendetta on swisher. that’s just great….
GB7-
No disrespect meant, as I’m as old as you, but with less functioning brain Betz cells. Interesting article that brought back good memories, when players were childhood heroes, not overpaid primadonnas.
“SOS, forgive me!”
Just this one time saucy. Never forget who you are. Let them come to you not the other way around.
(man those sites are so enticing to link to at times like these)
After reading yesterday’s box scores, I thought it was an extention of Spring Training…….
Kay making it sound like Swisher could be divisive in the clubhouse.
Giambi came in wired and mellowed out to adjust to the room.
Swisher will find his balance too.
Didnt they ( Cone) mention in last nights game, a position player who pitched once and screwed up his arm for 2 years??
it wasnt Boggs they mentioned was it?
Yankee Trader
April 14th, 2009 at 3:44 pm
GB7-
No disrespect meant, as I’m as old as you, but with less functioning brain Betz cells. Interesting article that brought back good memories, when players were childhood heroes, not overpaid primadonnas.
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I seldom get upset about this sort of thing, and, didn’t see anything for you to apologise over. I might have even said some unkind things on this board once…but, doubtful. I’m a great guy and a friend to all humans….and dogs.
Trolls are neither, if I remember my biology.
Pat M.
Your back. How are you feeling? Hope things are well.
At one point in time AJ seemed like a luxury. With Wang coming up empty it sure is nice to have a number three starter like Burnett.
Baseball he was talking about Paul O’neil
To ease some of your fears….
Check out these Red Sox stats so far this year. You think these guys are getting pulled, sent down, or traded? It may be something to ponder before flying off the handle about a Yankee not performing up to par thus far.
Lowell .154 avg 1 run 4rbi
Pedroia .179 avg 1rbi in 28 ABs
Elsbury .200 avg 0rbi in 25 ABs
Ortiz .208 avg 3rbi 5 total bases (I think he’s done. DONE)
Drew .150 avg 2rbi
Lowrie .058 avg 1 total base ONE!
Sox have the 2nd fewest runs scored in the entire AL and 3rd lowest in all of baseball.
Some pitching gems for you…
Okajima 13.50 era in 3 appearances
Lester 9.00 era in 2 starts
These stats are just to show its been one week of baseball. And if you want to put a lot of stock in that, the Sox are in much worse position than the Yanks.
Putting Swish in to pitch an inning when your starting pitcher and the bullpen has not done the job (remember, the Rays had score 15 runs by this point folks) is “making a mockery of the game”? The game had already been a mockery – the Rays had scored 15 runs.
And, oh yeah, Swish put a zero up on the board.
miggs,
Good post. I think you should repost it on the new thread.
GB7
“I seldom get upset about this sort of thing, and, didn’t see anything for you to apologise over. I might have even said some unkind things on this board once…but, doubtful. I’m a great guy and a friend to all humans….and dogs.
Trolls are neither, if I remember my biology.”
I knew that-You’re memory is outstanding, but I was going to say your spelling sucks, until I realized “apologise” is the UK version and acceptable spelling.
Anyway, always enjoy your comments and Pete has a new post up with tonights lineup.
Carl
April 14th, 2009 at 3:53 pm
Baseball he was talking about Paul O’neil
Thanks Carl….so the fear of screwing someone up is real!
Oneil a lot more intense than swish,,maybe why Girardi asked him to ‘chill it’..
“After reading yesterday’s box scores, I thought it was an extention of Spring Training……”
pat m -
what did they do-put you in a drug induced coma?
welcome back.
You have a lot of faith riding on Pavano not faking an injury before then.
Overheard earlier this evening: Peter Gammons ordering a “Tanqueray and Red Sox”.