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Brief appearance by Steinbrenner

Posted by: Peter Abraham - Posted in Misc on Apr 16, 2009 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

George Steinbrenner attended the game but played a very minor role in the proceedings.

He was introduced at the start of the pre-game ceremonies and waved to the crowd from his box behind home plate. The scoreboard showed only a brief shot of Steinbrenner before it was replaced by a photo taken at least 15 years ago.

An overzealous phalanx of security officer protected Steinbrenner, who is in ill health. When he left the Stadium via golf cart after the game, security tried to force members of the media into a nearby room so they could not see Steinbrenner pass by.

There was a similar incident before the game.

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317 Responses to “Brief appearance by Steinbrenner”

  1. Rishi April 16th, 2009 at 6:46 pm

    you feel bad for him – he must look terrible for them to guard him so well

  2. AROD fan April 16th, 2009 at 6:48 pm

    my great-grandmother was his christian science practitioner… serious…

  3. Floyd April 16th, 2009 at 6:50 pm

    I wish George was still running the team.

  4. Brandon April 16th, 2009 at 6:51 pm

    I saw the shot of Steinbrenner on the screen. He had no idea what was going on. I’m personally thinking Alzheimer’s. He waved to the crowd because his wife picked up his arm and shook it around for him.

    Lets put it this way: it didn’t look good.

  5. Kevin April 16th, 2009 at 6:51 pm

    Wow that is sad. Make what you want out of Steinbrenner and his decisions, but he always wanted this team to win and would do anything in his power to help this team get the players needed to win.

  6. Doreen - You can tell it's me by all the smileys April 16th, 2009 at 6:52 pm

    I suppose Mr. Steinbrenner has told people he doesn’t want to be seen in ill health. Or he’s in such bad shape they don’t know what he’ll say. They seem to be going to all extremes to keep him from over-exposure, or, really, any exposure at all.

    It’s really very sad. And any of us with older relatives can certainly understand.

    I’m glad he was at the stadium though. And that was for him, not for any of us, so it’s okay that there was no access to media or fans.

  7. ransom sucks April 16th, 2009 at 6:54 pm

    I LOVE GEORGE!!!

  8. GreenBeret7 April 16th, 2009 at 6:56 pm

    I can’t blame George Steinbrenner and his family for not wanting the media vultures with cameras taking pictures. He’s an extremely proud man and it probably embarrasses him to be seen like that, considering how active and vibrant he was three years ago. Leave it to the media to think they have the right to somebody elses pride and privacy.

  9. MikeEff April 16th, 2009 at 6:57 pm

    I hope he was unable to understand what was unfolding in the 7th. for his own sake.

  10. GreenBeret7 April 16th, 2009 at 6:59 pm

    Just reported that Kevin Garnett is out of the playoffs, and worse, Danny Ainge had a heart attack today.

  11. Bronx Jeers April 16th, 2009 at 7:00 pm

    The Yanks are not the same with the big man out of the picture.

    George would have never let the cadets sit in the bad seats.

  12. m April 16th, 2009 at 7:00 pm

    Poor George. Had to witness yet another bludgeoning by his hometown team.

    Had to repost this for Suzyn. Brought tears to my eyes. Hope it makes you smile a bit:

    SUZYN_WALDMAN
    April 16th, 2009 at 6:21 pm
    OH MY… OF ALL THE DRAMATIC… CODY RANSOM AND MARTE ARE FIGHTING… OH MY… RAWJAH… OF ALL THE… NOW RANSOM IS IN THE EMPTY LEGENDS SEATS BEATING MARTE MERCILESSLY… OF ALL THE DRAMATIC… THESE TEARS ARE FOR JOE HE’S MY FRIEND TORRE… AND THE COACHES… WAIT… WHAT YEAR IS… OF ALL THE DRAMATIC… OH MY… NOW JORGE IS BEATING CC ABOUT THE HEAD FACE AND NECK WITH A JOCK STRAP AND EPSTEIN IS CRYING IN RAWJA’S OLD LOCKER SHOUTING WHY WHY OF ALL THE DRAMATIC DID YOU HAVE TO CURSE THIS TEAM… OH MY… HERE’S THAT MCNAMEE KID… NOW GODZIRRA AND BEATING MCNAMEE WITH A ROLLED UP HUSTLER AND CRYING… OF ALL THE DRAMATIC

  13. vin April 16th, 2009 at 7:01 pm

    “Just reported that Kevin Garnett is out of the playoffs, and worse, Danny Ainge had a heart attack today.”

    Really? Yikes!

    I’m a big Laker fan, but I’d hate to see them win it this way.

  14. DC 212 April 16th, 2009 at 7:02 pm

    Bottom line – We didn’t pay CC $161 million to pitch 5 innings, especially with Joba going tomorrow.

    If he has given us 8 scoreless, we would have won this game.

    Hard to win when your ace is matched up with the other team’s ace and you have to use the horrible bullpen for 4 innings.

  15. Joe from Long Island April 16th, 2009 at 7:02 pm

    1. I think George is a very proud man, and his family wants to put on a brave and good front. Who can fault them? For all the agita, his ownership has been very good, overrall, for the Yankees and their fans. I hope Hal and the family keep the team, for fear of some corporate owner. I remember the dark days when CBS owned the team.

    2. “Kyle Veras”, as Pete referred to him in a previous post – pretty good. It’s a pretty good analogy. By all accounts, Jose is a good guy, but he’s not getting it done. Personally, I’m hoping that Cash uses him in a deal to pick up someone who could be more useful.

    3. As for Damaso Marte – I’m not ready to give up on him yet. Pete suggests that he be used for lefty specialty situations, only, and it’s hard to argue. He did get two lefties fairly easily in Sunday’s game. Lefties are at a premium, and he has proven himself in the past. I think two lefties in the ‘pen – him and Coke – are a very useful thing.

  16. GreenBeret7 April 16th, 2009 at 7:05 pm

    vin
    April 16th, 2009 at 7:01 pm
    “Just reported that Kevin Garnett is out of the playoffs, and worse, Danny Ainge had a heart attack today.”

    Really? Yikes!

    I’m a big Laker fan, but I’d hate to see them win it this way.

    ————————————————————

    I’ve been a Danny Ainge fan since Notre Dame. He was a great college player in baseball and basketball. at’s tough at age 50. Apparently sugery went pretty well, though.

  17. Rishi April 16th, 2009 at 7:06 pm

    great story of a local kid who grew up wanting to work for the Yankees:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04.....imessports

  18. Nick April 16th, 2009 at 7:06 pm

    Just looked at the Box Score… Ransom left 9 guys on base?

    Wow. Cashman needs to pay Francessa to take down his interview with him from the spring off the podcast page, because Ransom is nothing like the way Cashman describes him.

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  20. tampayank April 16th, 2009 at 7:09 pm

    CC will be fine, he’s a horse, he’ll get deeper into games, especially after the All Star Break

  21. Redding April 16th, 2009 at 7:10 pm

    Girardi’s bullpen management would look a lot better if he could just go Melancon-Bruney-Rivera every night, sprinkle in a little Robertson and Coke, and mostly have a reliable, consistent relief corps that throws strikes.

    Right now, he has a bunch of hard throwers who have bad control and are headcases on the mound and he has no long man.

  22. Tom K April 16th, 2009 at 7:11 pm

    DC 212 -
    You expect CC to give the Yankees 8 scoreless innings every time out?

    This was a well-rested bullpen getting lit up today – nobody says go four scoreless innings. But 4 innings of 2 run ball is not asking very much.

  23. S.A.--It's a marathon, not a sprint. Calm down. April 16th, 2009 at 7:12 pm

    Best wishes to Mr. Steinbrenner.

  24. Giuseppe Franco April 16th, 2009 at 7:12 pm

    Bottom line – We didn’t pay CC $161 million to pitch 5 innings, especially with Joba going tomorrow.

    ———-

    Who is “we”? Is your name Steinbrenner?

    Maybe you’ve heard this before, but it’s a long season. Sabathia is the least of their worries.

  25. m April 16th, 2009 at 7:14 pm

    I posted the wrong Suzyn Waldman. That wasn’t nearly as funny as the one I read about Roger’s abscess. Went back to find it and it’s gone.

  26. Oddesy April 16th, 2009 at 7:16 pm

    Can’t win when you don’t hit and have only one good reliever in the pen to get to MO.

    Starting pitching outside of Wang is not the problem.

    Joba going tomorrow… will we score some runs for him? Will the bullpen carry a lead if he only goes 5-6?

  27. Uncle Ellsworth April 16th, 2009 at 7:18 pm

    Anyone take any pictures today

  28. Closer April 16th, 2009 at 7:20 pm

    Mike Cameron hitting .370 with 3 HRs, 5 RBIs and a .500 OBP with 2 steals

    Another Cashman miss

  29. CaptainsCorner April 16th, 2009 at 7:23 pm

    It is really nice to know that George was at the game. If he wants to stay out of the spotlight then that is totally his right. He deserves the right not to be bothered by the crazy NY media. Let him enjoy the day..until Marte came into pitch that is. The media talks about George being out of the spotlight lets see how they are at his age…

  30. tampa yankee from long island April 16th, 2009 at 7:25 pm

    Closer

    but most people here think GGBG is going to blossom.”not me of course” i see a guy who runs well and that’s it.HE can’t get on base plain and simple.

  31. CaptainsCorner April 16th, 2009 at 7:26 pm

    Also it would of been nice if YES showed on TV when they showed George at the game. Also they didn’t show Yogi throwing out the 1st pitch. That was bad how can you not show that? Especially on opening day at a new ballpark. Bad job by YES. Commericals, commericals…

  32. Giuseppe Franco April 16th, 2009 at 7:29 pm

    but most people here think GGBG is going to blossom.”not me of course” i see a guy who runs well and that’s it.HE can’t get on base plain and simple.

    ———–

    But your solution is to put Melky out there instead.

    He’s certainly not the answer as we’ve witnessed the last two years.

  33. Mark (Brett is back) April 16th, 2009 at 7:30 pm

    Best wishes to the boss, even though Hank and Hal run the team there will always be one man that was the boss. Hope he can live to see the Yanks deliver him another championship.

  34. MikeEff April 16th, 2009 at 7:31 pm

    is anyone else concerned that girardi let CC pitch 120+? i know we want him to go deep into games, but don’t we want him to have something in the tank for October?

  35. Doreen - You can tell it's me by all the smileys April 16th, 2009 at 7:34 pm

    MikeEff -

    Only mildly.

  36. Closer April 16th, 2009 at 7:35 pm

    Neither Melky nor Gardner is the answer

    Mike Cameron is. Cash needs to get a deal done pronto.

  37. SJ44 April 16th, 2009 at 7:37 pm

    10 games into the Season and Cameron’s stats=a miss by Cashman?

    Get back to me in July when Cameron is hitting . 240 with 100k’s and a 10 million dollar price tag.

    Guess you missed the game two days ago in Tampa when Gardner helped win the game for them.

    Is there some kind of blog rule that states this place must turn into a sewer after each Yankee loss?

    Looks like another night of “can you top this” from the lunatic fringe of the fan base.

  38. O*Line April 16th, 2009 at 7:38 pm

    Joe made CC throw 122 pitches because he has no faith in this bullpen outside of Bruney. He wanted to try and get a good 6 out of him.

    Girardi’s opinion of the bullpen is pretty obvious based on his moves. He doesn’t know who to trust.

  39. tampa yankee from long island April 16th, 2009 at 7:38 pm

    Giuseppe Franco

    i don’t think there is an answer in house until 2010.But it hurts even more now when molina and ransom are in the lineup.we have no bench to pinch hit in big spots and then insert melky.

  40. DT April 16th, 2009 at 7:39 pm

    If Cashman had sprung for Cameron, he might not have done the Andy P deal. (even rich teams have $ limits)

    I’d rather have Andy, thank you.

  41. tampayank April 16th, 2009 at 7:40 pm

    we don’t need another old outfielder, no to Cameron

  42. vin April 16th, 2009 at 7:41 pm

    “is anyone else concerned that girardi let CC pitch 120+? i know we want him to go deep into games, but don’t we want him to have something in the tank for October?”

    Very slightly worried. Joe did it because it was opening day, and he probably felt it was important for CC to pitch into the 6th. I expect CC to be a little more efficient as the year progresses – but not much more, he is a strikeout pitcher. I have complete confidence in CC’s ability to go 6 innings within 110 pitches.

  43. miggs April 16th, 2009 at 7:41 pm

    Wow I knew the game was over as soon as Veras got to 3-0 on that first hitter.

    He’s SO BAD. Veras is responsible for 2 out of our 5 losses. He’s the 2009 version of Kyle Farnsworth.

    And Marte. Oh Marte. Cash had to give this scrub 3 years? Girardi hasn’t had any confidence in him all year and I don’t blame him. This performance is going to push him further out of the mix. Great way to spend 12 million Cashman.

    Ughh so bad today. Its still just one game. I just hope Tex starts hitting soon, we need him and MNtsui, especially with Nady out.

    Big start for Joba tomorrow.

  44. jennifer April 16th, 2009 at 7:43 pm

    Watching pregame now. Stadium looked beautiful today. Only wish it could have ended better.

  45. SJ44 April 16th, 2009 at 7:43 pm

    Not concerned about CC’s pitch count at all.

    It was a cool day and he likes to amp it up.

    His pitch count was 120 today.

    If they get to Oct. He will have plenty left in the tank because he will pitch fewer innings this year.

    The Yankees have only two issues. The health of their everyday players (Tex, Arod, Matsui, Nady) and the 10-12 spots on the pitching staff.

    I’m more concerned about the health issues than the bullpen.

  46. Giuseppe Franco April 16th, 2009 at 7:45 pm

    i don’t think there is an answer in house until 2010.But it hurts even more now when molina and ransom are in the lineup.we have no bench to pinch hit in big spots and then insert melky.

    ———–

    Wait a couple of weeks when A-Rod returns and you won’t have to worry about Ransom and Molina being in the lineup at the same time.

    Hopefully Teixeira’s wrist will heal within the next several days and then go on a rampage in May hitting in front of A-Rod.

    Their biggest issues right now is getting both A-Rod and Teixeira healthy and getting Wang straightened out.

    When that happens, this team will take off.

  47. jennifer April 16th, 2009 at 7:45 pm

    SJ- You aren’t concerned about Marte and Veras. They’ve both been awful for a while now.

  48. m April 16th, 2009 at 7:46 pm

    MikeEff,

    I’m not concerned about the pitch count as much as I was concerned about sending him out for the 6th when his control was spotty.

    But it’s nice to see AJ & CC both reward Girardi’s decision to send them out.

    In the old days, if you were approaching 100 pitches Torre wouldn’t even consider sending the starter back out.

  49. Vader April 16th, 2009 at 7:48 pm

    My guess is that if Veras keeps acting like the 2nd coming of Farnsy, he will be on the next bus out of town. I would hope that it is Melancon, but with the May 15 date to avoid a year of arbitration I don’t know.

    As for Marte, maybe his just a loogy and being signed for three years he will be here for the long haul.

    This bullpen has the jeckle and hyde act going on right now…but, IMO it will be a strength by mid-season.

  50. MikeEff April 16th, 2009 at 7:49 pm

    thanks for the answers guys…

  51. Dave April 16th, 2009 at 7:49 pm

    Cashman needs to look past Veras’ stuff and realize he is just not a reliable reliever. Doesn’t throw strikes, misses his spots and gets hit hard, and is just as likely to walk a guy as he is to strike him out.

    Marte has always been inconsistent. White Sox couldn’t wait to get rid of him. Edwar isin’t trustworthy either.

    Lots of live arms in the pen, not many strike throwers or guys who are reliable.

  52. jennifer April 16th, 2009 at 7:50 pm

    Jose Veras rhp
    1 year/$432,975 (2009)

    * 1 year/$432,975 (2009)
    o re-signed by Yankees 2/09 ($215,842 in minors)
    ML service: 2.025

    ————————————————————

    Can we send him down if need be? Two years service time?

  53. JohnM April 16th, 2009 at 7:51 pm

    You play your best players the most. CC should have been in for the seventh. Even more so if the manager distrusts the pen. Bad moves today. Garardi needs to gut it out more with his best players.

  54. Bronx Jeers April 16th, 2009 at 7:53 pm

    Here’s my widely anticipated 10 game review!

    Eh.

  55. Harper M April 16th, 2009 at 7:53 pm

    You’re going to see this a lot from Girardi— extending the starters because the bullpen is shaky. Burnett had 100 pitches and just got hit hard in the 7th, and he was out there fore the 8th in a tie game. CC had nothing today but was forced out there in the 6th.

    In his mind, a tired starter past 100 pitches is a safer bet to get outs than our bullpen… and he’s right.

  56. MikeEff April 16th, 2009 at 7:54 pm

    “You play your best players the most. CC should have been in for the seventh”

    out for the 7th???!!! he was at 122 pitches. how many are you suggesting he pitch? 145?

  57. S.A.--It's a marathon, not a sprint. Calm down. April 16th, 2009 at 7:54 pm

    So is the Lohud Yankees Blog fist fight tournament under the O’Neil banner still on for tomorrow at 12:10pm? I just need to know if I should look for my brass knuckles.

    :P

  58. Vader April 16th, 2009 at 7:54 pm

    Tex shaking his wrist during his 5th inning AB has me more worried than anything in the pen.

  59. Y26 April 16th, 2009 at 7:55 pm

    Veras is out of options, thats why he is still here. Pete confirmed that this Spring.

    Alba, Edwar, Coke, Robertson still have options. Burney and Veras do not.

  60. Brad Pitt's better-looking brother April 16th, 2009 at 7:55 pm

    GGBG .379 avg with a .446 OBP in spring. Hitting over .260 so far during the season.
    And you can pass judgment on him already that he can’t hit?
    The way I see it he’s doing OK, and actually very well considering it’s his first chance to play MLB competition regularly.
    But some people here would have wanted to sit Lou Gehrig after his first 0-for. I guess you are only as good as your last at bat to some.

  61. Nick April 16th, 2009 at 7:56 pm

    “Tex shaking his wrist during his 5th inning AB has me more worried than anything in the pen.”

    Ditto

  62. m April 16th, 2009 at 7:56 pm

    Today was Veras’ & Marte’s second chance. They may not get another. We can only afford to have the bullpen give away so many games.

    Vader is right in that Marte is signed for 3 years. He should only be used situationally, in the beginning of an inning, or in blowouts. They need to prop him up and increase his stock.

    Veras? Nothing more to be said.

    Looks like D-Rob will get some work. Coke may be back on track. Bruney needs to be paced.

  63. miggs April 16th, 2009 at 7:57 pm

    The fact that CC threw 122 pitches and didn’t get through 6 innings should tell you all you need to know about his stuff today.

    I saw every pitch and he labored badly. Keeping him out there wouldn’t have been prudent.

  64. jennifer April 16th, 2009 at 7:58 pm

    Well if Veras is out of options, and he continues to stink it up, than he’s gone.

  65. Vader April 16th, 2009 at 7:58 pm

    S.A., make sure someone posts some photos.

  66. m April 16th, 2009 at 7:59 pm

    I saw Tex shaking his hand after a diving play. My first thought was “yikes”.

  67. joeman April 16th, 2009 at 7:59 pm

    Ransom,Gardner & Melky are AAA players at best..starting for the NYY,this has LOB written all over it

  68. CB April 16th, 2009 at 8:00 pm

    SJ,

    If you didn’t see Kevin Goldstein’s future shock column yesterday take a look.

    He had some good things to say about the draft and the prospects of a catcher from BC.

    http://www.baseballprospectus......cleid=8748

  69. Uncle Ellsworth April 16th, 2009 at 8:00 pm

    S.A.–It’s a marathon, not a sprint. Calm down.
    April 16th, 2009 at 7:54 pm
    So is the Lohud Yankees Blog fist fight tournament under the O’Neil banner still on for tomorrow at 12:10pm? I just need to know if I should look for my brass knuckles.

    No it’s Skin on Skin.
    “Real Fans v. Fake Fans – Fist Fight”. Remember not to hurt kids and women.
    I’ll see you under the Banner!

  70. vtred April 16th, 2009 at 8:01 pm

    Giving Marte 3 yrs/$12 million when all he had to do was pick up his option for one year was one of the dumbest decisions a GM has ever made. And he is getting paid from ages 34-36.

  71. Giuseppe Franco April 16th, 2009 at 8:02 pm

    Marte has always been inconsistent. White Sox couldn’t wait to get rid of him.

    ————

    Uh, not exactly. Ozzie Guillen loved Marte.

    He must have lied to the media when he said he cried himself to sleep the night Marte was traded from the White Sox.

  72. m April 16th, 2009 at 8:03 pm

    I don’t trust anything Ozzie Guillen says. About anything. Man’s a nutjob.

  73. John April 16th, 2009 at 8:04 pm

    The lineup is going to struggle big time against lefties. Matsui looks finished

  74. Ed - Swisher is awesome!! April 16th, 2009 at 8:05 pm

    heaven forbid if Teix lands on the DL, who is going to man 1B? Swish or Miranda? If Miranda could smash like he did in AAA, then that would be great.

  75. SJ44 April 16th, 2009 at 8:05 pm

    Jennifer,

    Marte and Veras aren’t issues, per se.

    If Veras can’t get it together he will be replaced by Melancon in May.

    The Yankees are loaded with RH relief pitchers in the system. That’s not going to be a problem.

    Marte? He has had a longer track record of success than Marte so he gets a longer leash.

    It’s a LONG season. You can’t go day to day.

    If the team can get healthy, these other things will work themselves out.

  76. Ed - Swisher is awesome!! April 16th, 2009 at 8:06 pm

    “The lineup is going to struggle big time against lefties. Matsui looks finished”

    I guess you didn’t witnessed Matsui’s walks against a lefty. I also guess Jeter, Posada, Damon, Swish sucks at hitting lefties. oh no, this team is dooooom! what should we do? oh booowhooo..

  77. jennifer April 16th, 2009 at 8:06 pm

    But I am also looking back to last year too. They both had issues if I remember correctly.

  78. S.A.--It's a marathon, not a sprint. Calm down. April 16th, 2009 at 8:06 pm

    Uh, not exactly. Ozzie Guillen loved Marte.

    He must have lied to the media when he said he cried himself to sleep the night Marte was traded from the White Sox.

    ===============================

    Maybe they were tears of joy?

  79. Uncle Ellsworth April 16th, 2009 at 8:07 pm

    Does anyone remember how pitiful Carlos Delgado was last year in the beginning of the season?
    I would not throw Matsui onto the scrap heap too fast.

  80. jennifer April 16th, 2009 at 8:07 pm

    Yes needs to add some crowd mics. Why is it every other stadiums sounds soo loud. The crowd was screaming after bernie, yet it came across so low.

  81. Giuseppe Franco April 16th, 2009 at 8:08 pm

    I’d rather see Teixeira take some games off now than an extended period of time later.

    His defense will always help the team but his bat isn’t helping the team much right now anyways.

    A power hitter has no power with a bad wrist.

  82. F7 TD April 16th, 2009 at 8:08 pm

    Marte had a 3.77 ERA in 05 with the Chi Sox.

    He only pitched twice in the postseason for them… game 1 against Boston where he didn’t record an out. And in the 14th inning against Houston in the World Series (when they were out of pitchers) and even then, Ozzie had to bring up Mark Burhlee (the previous days starter) to record the final out because Marte was about to choke the lead away.

    He just isn’t built for a big market. Racks up meaningless saves in Pittsburgh, can’t get outs consistently in NY. Felix Heredia 2.0. Put him in when the game is 10-2 and he will strike out the side. Ask any Chi Sox fan about him.

  83. jennifer April 16th, 2009 at 8:09 pm

    Yogi still looks good, that is really good to see. Last time he looked very old.

  84. m April 16th, 2009 at 8:09 pm

    haha. Maine int. walks A-Gonz to get to the next guy. Headley makes ‘em pay with a 2 run single. Pads up 4-3 now.

    Oops. Now, it’s 5-3.

  85. Nome April 16th, 2009 at 8:10 pm

    The most concerning thing today is that it looks like the lineup is back to it’s old tricks— unable to hit a lefty and can’t get clutch hits. We left 15 on base today.

    Francessa was talking about how much we will struggle against lefties just like we did last year. Doesn’t help that Teixeria is banged up and Matsui looks like he is finished.

  86. jennifer April 16th, 2009 at 8:11 pm

    m- good cause all afternoon long I’ve been getting rap for the Yankees loss.

  87. BetsyI April 16th, 2009 at 8:11 pm

    I’m quite concerned about Tex. I have never lost faith in his ability to perform and put up his usual numbers, even when he started off slowly, but the wrist issue is another thing entirely. What I don’t understand is that the MRI didn’t reveal any structural issues. If that’s the case, shouldn’t the inflammation have subsided by now? This looks like it could linger all season – I don’t think Tex should be playing now. Getting a cortisone shot (when those are suppose to be very painful) is a bad sign.

  88. Brad Pitt's better-looking brother April 16th, 2009 at 8:11 pm

    You think Yogi is juicing now too, Jennifer?

  89. CB April 16th, 2009 at 8:13 pm

    “Hitting over .260 so far during the season.
    And you can pass judgment on him already that he can’t hit?”

    Gardner’s primary issue isn’t going to be batting average. It’s going to be how often he gets on base. That’s what you have to look at.

    It’s still very early and I wouldn’t make much of his batting average.

    In fact he’s done OK in terms of making contact. His line drive rate is a very good 25%. Again, it’s early so nothing to make that much of big deal about, but his “hitting” per se is within the bounds of what you’d deem acceptable.

    But what does concern me is how pitchers are throwing to him and his at bats.

    In 34 plate appearances Gardern has drawn 1 walk. Think about that. And it’s not because he’s not patient. Gardner is seeing 3.8 pitches per plate appearance.

    So Gardner is seeing quite a few pitches but not drawing any walks at all.

    Pitchers simply are not going to walk him in the major leagues because they don’t respect his bat. They don’t think he’s going to do much more than single so why take any chance of walking him?

    So Gardner’s BA may be .258 but his OBP is .281. That is very concerning.

    Again it’s not the stats – it’s the at bats and how pitchers are approaching him.

  90. vin April 16th, 2009 at 8:13 pm

    “So is the Lohud Yankees Blog fist fight tournament under the O’Neil banner still on for tomorrow at 12:10pm? I just need to know if I should look for my brass knuckles. ”

    Why do I get the feeling that its going to look like the Thriller video under the O’Neill banner?

  91. 4 x 4 April 16th, 2009 at 8:13 pm

    What’s to gain by keeping Melancon down in AAA while Veras is up here blowing games for us?

    Nobody said he should be the SU man immediately but he can certainly help us more than Veras.

  92. vinny-b (Girardi, Pettitte, Mo, Matsui, Gardner = my top 5) April 16th, 2009 at 8:14 pm

    “The crowd is just brutal. Yankees come to plate and there is barely a smattering of applause. I don’t know if the crowd is quiet or the design of the stadium is the reason, but it’s like being in church so far”

    maybe the Royals will trade stadiums with us

  93. SJ44 April 16th, 2009 at 8:15 pm

    CB,

    Thanks for the note. If a scout thinks leading the ACC in HR’s, hitting . 390, while being in the Top 8 in six other offensive catagories, and maintaining a .987 fielding % is “inconsistent”, I hope he stays that “inconsistent” for another month and he’ll do just fine on Draft Day.

  94. Uncle Ellsworth April 16th, 2009 at 8:15 pm

    vin
    I was picturing Thunderdome

    “we don’t need another hero…..”
    maybe we do.

  95. Uncle Ellsworth April 16th, 2009 at 8:16 pm

    Thunderdome with pink hats

  96. Seth April 16th, 2009 at 8:17 pm

    Cashman thought Ransom was good enough at 3B and that Gardner/Melky was the answer in CF. He also is in love with Jose Veras and felt that Marte deserved $12 million for 3 years.

    Cameron is just lying out there, would help our problem against lefties immensely.

  97. vin April 16th, 2009 at 8:17 pm

    I’m gonna make our pal Joey Francisco surrender his yogurt. Why? Because I’m 6′-1″ and 205 lbs!

  98. Vader April 16th, 2009 at 8:17 pm

    I’ve gotten many cortisone shots, in my elbow, shoulder and back and they work very well at reducing inflammation and then pain…but yes it is very sore right after the shot and it takes few days to kick in.

  99. vinny-b (Girardi, Pettitte, Mo, Matsui, Gardner = my top 5) April 16th, 2009 at 8:18 pm

    “I was picturing Thunderdome
    “we don’t need another hero…..”
    maybe we do”

    checked that movie for first time, 2 days ago. Liked the first 2, better

  100. patrick max April 16th, 2009 at 8:20 pm

    The Yankees medical staff hasn’t exactly proven to be reliable especially with the number of injuries and miscalculations over the past few years.

    Wouldn’t shock me if they are mishandling this Teixeria injury too. The facts do not add up at all.

  101. jennifer April 16th, 2009 at 8:20 pm

    Funny how the Indians were all laughing when Pavano was booed, I’m sure they won’t be laughing when Pavano spends 6 months on the dl.

  102. BetsyI April 16th, 2009 at 8:20 pm

    Joe using Marte for .2 of an inning over the span of a week or so is also terrible pen management. Then he expects him to be sharp right away? I don’t know, I just feel like Joe has a short hook this year with the pen and really has been trusting only Mo, Bruney and Coke. Last year, he engengered confidence in the pen by not sending them to the doghouse when they sometimes struggled. I don’t see that this year……….

  103. vin April 16th, 2009 at 8:20 pm

    The worst thing about the Tex injury is the timing of it. Obviously, this lineup is not impressive without Alex and Tex. My hope is that Alex comes back my May 1, Malky earns playing time in RF, and Swisher can give Tex a meaningful rest. It’s unlikely we’ll see a trade for an OFer before mid-June, so Melky is going to have to contribute.

  104. Uncle Ellsworth April 16th, 2009 at 8:20 pm

    Vin
    I almost coughed up a lung laughing at “surrender the Yogurt” reference. Seriously funny.

  105. Uncle Ellsworth April 16th, 2009 at 8:22 pm

    vinny b
    yeah its just ok
    the first 2 ROCK!

  106. Giuseppe Franco April 16th, 2009 at 8:22 pm

    Francesa once again doesn’t have any idea what he’s talking about.

    They will be fine against lefties when A-Rod returns.

    Jeter, A-Rod, Posada, Teixeira, and Swisher all hit from the right side of the plate.

    Matsui is struggling now but has always hit lefties. Damon has hit lefties. Cano can hit lefties.

    Losing Nady definitely hurts in this regard, but they are not going to struggle against lefties once they get everyone back and healthy.

  107. Uncle Ellsworth April 16th, 2009 at 8:23 pm

    Surprised no one referred to Veras and Marte as Yogurt surrenderers in the gamethread

  108. S.A.--It's a marathon, not a sprint. Calm down. April 16th, 2009 at 8:24 pm

    Uncle Ellsworth April 16th, 2009 at 8:16 pm

    Thunderdome with pink hats

    ===============================

    Don’t forget about us gals wearing our Jeter Jerseys

  109. Joe from Long Island April 16th, 2009 at 8:24 pm

    If Tex – or anyone – has inflammation, then the treatment is anti-inflammatories. Steroids – cortisone – are potent anti-inflammatories. If there’s no structural damage, then you’re not risking anything.

    I speak from some experience in this matter.

  110. DT April 16th, 2009 at 8:26 pm

    I’m gonna make our pal Joey Francisco surrender his yogurt. Why? Because I’m 6’-1” and 205 lbs!

    Lil Joey has asked if we can postpone the 12:15 O’Neill banner smack down until Saturday. He forgot tomorrow is a school day.

  111. SJ44 April 16th, 2009 at 8:26 pm

    you treat inflammation with a cortizone shot. What’s inconsistent about that?

    Tex will be fine in a few days after the pain of the shot dissipates.

    CB,

    Thanks for the note. He’s still leading the ACC in HR’s, is in the Top 8 in 7 other offensive catagories, hitting .388 with 3 errors for the season.

  112. Bill April 16th, 2009 at 8:28 pm

    CB @ 8:13. I noticed the same thing regarding BG’s ABs. It is like his 1st stint last year. Pitchers go right at him and he’s 0-2 before you know it. You are correct that pitchers don’t respect him and they won’t until he starts to drive the ball for XBH and he becomes a pest on the bases. He fixed the problem last year in his 2nd stint when K. Long told him to be more aggressive early in the count. I do think he’ll be fine. I don’t ask him to carry the offense, just contribute. I am more concerned with Matsui and Ransom who, although not expected to do much, is hitting lower than a Red Sox fan’s IQ. He looks lost in the field and at the plate. ARod can’t get back soon enough.

  113. Uncle Ellsworth April 16th, 2009 at 8:29 pm

    S.A.

    I never would – great part of any Yankee game.
    But “under the banner” all bets are off – fake fans always looking to take your yogurt…..mayhem I say….mayhem

  114. Frida K. April 16th, 2009 at 8:29 pm

    Brownshirts protecting Der Fuhrer.

  115. vin April 16th, 2009 at 8:30 pm

    Re: Damso Marte and how to use him…
    http://www.baseball-reference......;year=2008

    He did pitch 4 days in a row last Aug 27-30, and 6 out of 7 days around that time and was pretty good (statistically speaking – no walks, 1 ER). He was good last year on long rest, and on short rest… just had maybe 4 bad outings (out of 24 with the Yanks).

  116. Uncle Ellsworth April 16th, 2009 at 8:32 pm

    Does anyone actually know where the O’Neill banner is?

  117. vin April 16th, 2009 at 8:32 pm

    “Surprised no one referred to Veras and Marte as Yogurt surrenderers in the gamethread”

    We were all too busy fighting back the morons. Wasn’t easy, but the neighborhood is quiet (for now).

  118. vin April 16th, 2009 at 8:33 pm

    “Does anyone actually know where the O’Neill banner is?”

    Above a water-cooler?

  119. Big Yank fan April 16th, 2009 at 8:33 pm

    The crowd was a golf crowd or a tennis crowd. I hope its only because its opening day. I hope its not because Joe Fan got priced out on the seats. The stadium is the greatest place I have ever been to. The ONLY thing that was bad was the weak crowd. No enthusiasm except for the bleachers

  120. Uncle Ellsworth April 16th, 2009 at 8:37 pm

    Hmmmmm

    I Don’t know if Joey was thinking this but

    Warriors = great gang fight movie
    Paul O’Neill = Warrior

  121. Brad Pitt's better-looking brother April 16th, 2009 at 8:37 pm

    CB
    Pitchers are going to be throwing him strikes more than other hitters for a few reasons.
    1) They don’t want to walk him as he will soon be standing on second or third a few pitches later.
    2) He is not a power hitter. Top of the lineup rolls around after him.
    The fact that he showed a high OBP in spring shows he can do it. He’s had what? 10 regular season games?
    But if people are waiting for the next Mickey Mantle they will surely be disappointed in Brett.

  122. big yank fan April 16th, 2009 at 8:40 pm

    The only thing negative today was the crowd. The crowd was dead, no life except in the bleachers. I hope its only because it was opening day and not that the average fan was priced out on ticket prices. The crowd was so flat

  123. Vader April 16th, 2009 at 8:43 pm

    Two movies with great gang fights…The Outsiders and the fight scene in Anchor Man…oh and I forgot West Side Story!

  124. DT April 16th, 2009 at 8:44 pm

    I really was hoping the double yesterday would get Ransom off the snide.

    The guy is better than a .100 hitter. (3-30)

    Until Arod returns – I’d bat Gardner 8th, Ransom 9th.

    If Gardner gets on, maybe Cody would get a fastball. It appears that’s about the only pitch he can hit.

  125. SJ44 April 16th, 2009 at 8:45 pm

    CB,

    Watching Gardner in BP the past 4 days showed me a few things.

    First, that kid has gap power. He was crushing pitches in the seats in right in Tampa and in the power alleys in left.

    Did the same thing today in BP in NY.

    This may sound funny but, I think he will draw more walks, and be a more effective offensive player, if he swings earlier in counts in some of his AB’s.

    It seems to me that he is so intent on working counts, he is passing up hittable pitches he can drive.

    Once he does that, as has success (like he did Tuesday night), pitches will work him differently and he will be able to draw more walks.

    He’s a better hitter than I thought he would be. He just needs to be a bit more aggressive in some counts, IMO.

  126. Uncle Ellsworth April 16th, 2009 at 8:46 pm

    Vader
    The Wanderers with Ken Wahl = great movie

    Outsiders = personal favorite

  127. CB April 16th, 2009 at 8:46 pm

    “He fixed the problem last year in his 2nd stint when K. Long told him to be more aggressive early in the count. I do think he’ll be fine.”

    He really didn’t. In his second stint in the majors he did hit better in terms of batting average.

    But he didn’t particularly draw more walks. And that was what was so concerning then.

    Gardner in his second stint had 68 at bats and drew 3 walks.

    That is utterly abysmal.

    Over that same period of time he struck out 13 times.

    Gardner actually walked more his first stint in the majors.

    People have made up so much about how good he was in his second stint but it was a much more mixed picture.

    He got more hits but didn’t draw more walks.

    His entire game is speed which means that his entire game depends on how often he’s on base.

    He simply does not draw any walks. Jacoby Ellsbury – a much more talented player – is experiencing the same exact thing. Second half of last season MLB pitchers simply decided to stop walking Ellsbury.

    Ellsbury’s batting average in the second half of last year was higher than the first – but I believe his OBP went down.

    Gardner is getting the same treatment and will continue to do so unless he shows he can hit the ball hard and punish intention pitches the pitcher is just getting over to throw a strike.

    But it’s unclear if Gardner has that skill.

    I was concerned Gardner would play at a replacement level over the winter. Unfortunately, if he can’t draw more walks he’s going to be significant drag on this team.

  128. Trevor April 16th, 2009 at 8:47 pm

    Dellin Betances having another good. So far he’s picking off where he left off late last season. He’s starting to walk less hitters. If he can continue that he’ll be in Trenton later in the season.

  129. Doreen - You can tell it's me by all the smileys April 16th, 2009 at 8:47 pm

    PAT M-

    I just saw your response to me about tendonitis/cortisone shots in the last thread. Thanks. Much appreciated. Just trying to understand.

    For some reason when Sheffield kept getting cortisone shots, I never really cared. Hmm. :)

  130. Vader April 16th, 2009 at 8:52 pm

    Ellsworth…is that the movie with Wanderers come out and playeea

    Outsiders cast is one for the ages as well as a great movie.

    Back to basbeball, I hope that Gardner does what he has to do to be in the lineup daily…he has the type speed you can see on tv and every time he does get on base is must watch baseball.

  131. CB April 16th, 2009 at 8:52 pm

    “First, that kid has gap power. He was crushing pitches in the seats in right in Tampa and in the power alleys in left.”

    SJ,

    First off – congrats on your nephew. Very exciting. I’m a draft nick and I know two things:

    1. Every prospect is going to get dinged for XY and Z small thing. Even Strasburg suddenly has poor mechanics…

    2. A player who you know will be able to stay behind the plate and who is hitting the way your nephew is is going to get taken at a very nice spot and has a very good shot to get to the show.

    We’ll be pulling for him – though I really hope the Sox don’t take him… (though i could see it…).

    Your observation on Gardner is the single most important thing about his game.

    If he actually does have the physically tool set to hit for gap power the yankees have an asset.

    But if he doesn’t show that they’ve got a decent bench player and he will hurt them this year in a tight division.

    I really hope that he starts showing that gap power.

    Part of why I’m concerned about him is what’s happened to Ellsbury who I think is much more talented.

    Ellsbury is just not getting on base because he can’t draw walks.

    And I do think Ellsbury has shown at least some gap type power in the bigs.

    Doesn’t matter how good your team is – having even one replacement level player in the line up is a big problem.

  132. Victor the Predictor April 16th, 2009 at 8:52 pm

    Neither Veras or Ransom will last the season in Yankee uniforms past July if not sooner.

  133. Brad Pitt's better-looking brother April 16th, 2009 at 8:52 pm

    I think Sheff just “said” they were cortisone shots…

  134. Joey's Poodle April 16th, 2009 at 8:52 pm

    vin April 16th, 2009 at 8:33 pm

    “Does anyone actually know where the O’Neill banner is?”

    Above a water-cooler?

    Very good one, Vin… LOL

    I hope so!

    I want to meet at the Paul O’Neil Memorial Watercooler!

  135. Uncle Ellsworth April 16th, 2009 at 8:55 pm

    Vader that is “the Warriors”
    a cult classic

    The Wanderers is set in the sixties also about rival gangs (in the Boogie down Bronx)
    The Wanderers rival gang is called “the Fordam Baldies”
    I highly suggest them both

  136. vinny-b (Girardi, Pettitte, Mo, Matsui, Gardner = my top 5) April 16th, 2009 at 8:56 pm

    expect NYY have better options then Veras

    bullpens are volatile, from year to year

    and Veras was volatile today

  137. Vader April 16th, 2009 at 8:58 pm

    Thanx…I’ll have to check them out.

  138. BetsyI April 16th, 2009 at 8:58 pm

    I was at the game – I guess I didn’t really notice the lack of crowd noise. I mean, there really was nothing to get excited about. I thought the crowd was fine after Jorge hit the HR………

    Sheesh, the Yanks left an army of men on the bases today. That inefficiency will cost them at some point……..

  139. Vader April 16th, 2009 at 9:00 pm

    I agree with bullpens being volatile…but you have to hate when they let a close game turn into a blow out.

  140. RER - 98 April 16th, 2009 at 9:01 pm

    I suspect that Kevin Long is working hard with Brett Gardner and emphasizing using the gaps. With his speed, most gappers will result in doubles and triples even with better than average outfield arms.

  141. jennifer "We want Swisher" April 16th, 2009 at 9:07 pm

    I’m just skimming through the game, and it appears that the screen behind home plate is much higher than before. I guess it is becuase they no longer have the screen that covered the stands. Maybe they could shorten it and add the covering screen. I don’t know logistics but that would probably solve the problem of having to shoot through a screen.

  142. Al from BK April 16th, 2009 at 9:09 pm

    I hope Girardi once again took note that Veras is a weak link, same with Marte.

  143. Doreen - You can tell it's me by all the smileys April 16th, 2009 at 9:09 pm

    Jennifer -

    I didn’t notice any shots today that were through the netting. I don’t know if I just missed them, or if they decided not to use that particular shot.

    Maybe that means they’re working on fixing it? Quietly?

  144. RuthieJ April 16th, 2009 at 9:09 pm

    Yea, you gotta feel bad for the guy, and then for cleveland to blow that big hole in the 6th (or whatever inning it was)….way to end the day on a sour note…and Nady was a decent bat in the lower half of the line up that the yanks surely didnt need to loes this early in the season… with a-rod out and cody stiffining up at the plate, its the offensive production that needs the tommy john..(btw pete: i totally noticed that, the whole tommy john thing)….yanks beter pick it up, what a watse to a sabathia start, he should of gone deeper in the game too (i was outy an about but i know he didnt play the 7th, and it seems every time a yankee start goes into the 7th inning the team wins….andy, aj)

    *and side note: how cute was that drive by aj kiss on nick swisher lol…i was rolling on the floor litteraly!

  145. SJ44 April 16th, 2009 at 9:10 pm

    CB,

    Thanks for the kind words.

    My only fear about him is if the Red Sox draft him.

    That just can’t happen! lol

    Four teams have shown the most interest. Yankees, Red Sox, Rays and Angels.

    That means, probably the Tigers will draft him!

    Seriously though, its been a fun ride so far. Plus, he’s a good kid, which makes it all the more fun.

    As far as the crowd today, the game had little to cheer about if you were a Yankee fan.

    Aside from the pomp and circumstance, it was a boring game.

    The charter landed late, and guys probably didn’t get home until about 2 or 3 in the morning. With a quick turnaround, the game had the feel of the players dragging a bit today.

    The “joys” of traveling.

    As far as the bullpen, every bullpen, after the closer and one or two other guys, is a shaky thing. You try and catch lightening.

    The Rays caught it last year with guys like Wheeler, Balfour and Howell. They are feeling the effects of that this year.

    I like what I see out of Edwar, Bruney and Mo. I think Coke will get it worked out as he learns what its like to be a relief pitcher. This is his first full season in the bullpen so, there will be ups and downs.

    The guys who aren’t performing well will start hearing the footsteps from Robertson, Melancon, Jackson and Clagget. Out of those 4 guys, I think at least one, perhaps two, will emerge to help the team.

    My only concern right now is health. Tex, Arod and Matsui hurting ain’t good. Gotta get those guys going.

  146. jennifer "We want Swisher" April 16th, 2009 at 9:11 pm

    don’t know as I ran through the game very quickly. I noticed the height of the screen during God Bless America.

  147. Vader April 16th, 2009 at 9:11 pm

    They listen about most things…see the retired numbers in left. They really need to fix the camera angle behind home plate.

  148. Brad Pitt's better-looking brother April 16th, 2009 at 9:11 pm

    “Doesn’t matter how good your team is – having even one replacement level player in the line up is a big problem.”

    - – - – - –

    What exactly is a replacement level player?
    Go through the box score of every game today and tell me one team that does not have a replacement level player (as you see it) on it.
    Almost every team has its stars, its average players, its over-the- hill guys, and its upstarts. The upstarts are the ones who are going need to have a few more than 10 games to make evaluations on their entire career.
    Your concerns are about Gardner are fine if not a little unfair. But he hasn’t failed the test by a long shot yet.

    btw… Gardner drew a walk today.

  149. Doreen - You can tell it's me by all the smileys April 16th, 2009 at 9:12 pm

    Al from BK -

    In the post-game it was fairly obvious that Girardi was not pleased with Veras’ performance.

  150. PAT M April 16th, 2009 at 9:13 pm

    The player who has been impressive so far is Cano….He looks very comfortable in the box, and he’s hitting from line to line….He’ll be in the hunt for the batting title this season…..He just looks real good…..

  151. Brad Pitt's better-looking brother April 16th, 2009 at 9:14 pm

    Cano does look good this year, yes.

  152. SJ44 April 16th, 2009 at 9:14 pm

    One other point.

    If not for BJ Upton, whom they should just give the Gold Glove to right now, Pena has two booming doubles.

    IMO, he and not Ransom, should be the utility guy when Arod comes back.

    Often, veteran players take to that role. However, after watching Pena the last 4 days, there really isn’t anything Ransom does better than he does right now.

    Pena is the superior fielder, runner, and hitter. Plus, he’s a switch hitter.

    CB made some great points about usage of the 40 man roster. To me, when Arod comes back, Pena should stay with the big club and they should DFA Ransom.

    If he clears waivers and goes back to Scranton, fine.

    However, I wouldn’t keep him over Pena because he’s not as good a player as that kid, IMO.

  153. Ryzabove April 16th, 2009 at 9:15 pm

    I miss the days when you could get an autograph from a ball player as he walked in the stadium before the game or when the fans were actually allowed to go down to the field level boxes to watch batting practice.

  154. Vader April 16th, 2009 at 9:16 pm

    It seemed as though they were voiding that camera angle, but it was still there and I also noted that there wasn’t the screen over the fans like across the street…maybe they changed it after the dope who said he had mistakenly fell over a few years back.

  155. SJ44 April 16th, 2009 at 9:17 pm

    Pat M,

    Cano is a different guy this year. The uniform doesn’t show it but, he’s remade his body. His upper body is more ripped and he doesn’t have much around the middle. Not like last year.

    He’s also on the first bus to the park everyday so far this year.

    Literally night and day from last year.

    Every facet of his game is better. I think the light finally went on with him and he’s going to have a big year if he stays healthy.

  156. Brad Pitt's better-looking brother April 16th, 2009 at 9:17 pm

    Pena has the tools. If he learns to hit mlb pitching he’s going to be something.

  157. Vader April 16th, 2009 at 9:18 pm

    SJ…I agree but I think Ransom could play 1st in a pinch, but Pena does deserve a longer look.

  158. Doreen - You can tell it's me by all the smileys April 16th, 2009 at 9:20 pm

    BJ Upton just makes playing centerfield look so easy, doesn’t he?

    Sadly, I agree that Ransom may have lost his job as the utility guy. Too bad. Because they weren’t asking him to hit, just hold his own at the plate, and play a decent 3B. But his fielding has been suspect.

    It was really unfortunate that with all the opportunities he had today, he couldn’t come through even once. And looked bad (not) doing so.

  159. SJ44 April 16th, 2009 at 9:21 pm

    Vader,

    True but, Swisher can also play first.

    To me, Ransom doesn’t give them as many options as Pena.

    Defensive replacement, pinch runner, bunt in key situation, etc.

    I just think this kid can do more things than Ransom, thereby making a better case for him to stay on the roster.

    The Yankees talk about getting younger and more athletic.

    With Arod coming off hip surgery and Jeter soon to be 35, I think there is enough PT for Pena to make it worth keeping in NY.

    If Ransom doesn’t show more, its going to be interesting to see what happens in two weeks when Arod comes back.

    I think Arod will be back on May 1. The clock may be ticking on Cody’s time in NY.

  160. Vader April 16th, 2009 at 9:23 pm

    Cano…future 3 hole hitter???

  161. JoeyA April 16th, 2009 at 9:23 pm

    Ransom’s AB’s were actually hard to watch.

    Agree with SJ on this completely. Why use Ransom, who is supposed to have the offensive edge over Pena.

    Ransom doesn’t even look like he’s seeing the ball. We obviously need both now, but defense > offense in a bench player and Ransom needs to go.

  162. SJ44 April 16th, 2009 at 9:25 pm

    Its sick how good BJ Upton is in CF. The catch he made on Nady Monday night, had it been a post-season game, would have been called one of the greatest catches of all time. It was a remarkable catch.

    The catch he made in the left CF gap on Pena Tuesday night was also pretty darn special.

    For some reason, he was shading Pena a little to RF. He just galloped into the gap in left center and made a very tough catch look easy.

    No other CF in the game comes close to that ball because Pena smoked it.

    BJ is a pretty special player. He’s also a good guy, which makes it even better.

  163. Tom in NJ April 16th, 2009 at 9:26 pm

    Ransom takes the same swing at every pitch. Regardless of pitch type, location, or speed, he takes the same swing.

  164. Teixeiramvp (JobaCyYoung) April 16th, 2009 at 9:26 pm

    Yankees’ bullpen is one of the worst in the league. If we really have so much pitching depth we better prove it, because before Bruney we have NO good arms. None. We need Melancon, Geise, Aceves, etc., and fast because right now before the eighth inning I trust nobody in our pen. Embarassing. EMBARASSING! The Yankees should be ashamed.

    I am disgusted by my Yanks.

  165. Ed - Swish is awesome! April 16th, 2009 at 9:30 pm

    Breaking News:

    The Dodgers might be willing to trade **Jason Repko**, a 28-year-old with above average speed and a little pop. The Nationals are said to be entertaining offers for **Austin Kearns**.

    http://www.nypost.com/seven/04.....164661.htm

    ——-

    but Kerns stinks defensively. wasn’t Repko a former Yankee?

  166. C April 16th, 2009 at 9:30 pm

    anyone saw the rays game looks like they have alot of empty seats

  167. AROD fan April 16th, 2009 at 9:30 pm

    I see no reason to rush A-Rod. If he’s back, great, but if he’s not, all our signings this year were long-term young guys. I say give a real prospect some ml playing time.

  168. DT April 16th, 2009 at 9:31 pm

    psst… Geise is in Oakland now

  169. SJ44 April 16th, 2009 at 9:31 pm

    Take a chill pill and a get a grip. There is nothing to be “embarrassed” about with the bullpen.

    Its April for God Sake.

    Rivera, Bruney, Coke, Albadelejo (who has pitched very well) have had more good moments than bad moments.

    Veras and Marte spit it up today. It happens.

    You turn the page and move on.

    To be “embarrassed” about anything in baseball after 10 games is idiotic.

    Bullpens have a way of working themselves out. Just give it a little time.

  170. Teixeiramvp (JobaCyYoung) April 16th, 2009 at 9:31 pm

    AROD fan-I think the sooner the better.

  171. gayle April 16th, 2009 at 9:32 pm

    SO here along with photos is my good, bad and ugly from today:

    http://2009thefirstseasonatthe.....erfly.com/

    The Good:
    The opening ceremonies were tremendous could not ask for more. Cried twice both of the times were during the performances by Fogerty and Bernie not sure if they showed the screen at all but the video that went along with performances were outstanding.

    The the Yankees added to the back wall the retired numbers (on the LF side) and the championship years (along the RF wall) nice change to the Cubs series.

    Robbie Cano – I picked him to hit the first HR at the STadium he didnt do that but is showing great improvements from the start of last year.

    The reception that AJ and Swish received were great as we all know Swish is quickly becoming the cool Yankee to like.

    The Bad:
    Veras – enough said
    The Crowd – although the game was boring I thnk part of the problem is that a LARGE majority of fans are waiting in lines for food or walking the concourses. My friend went to get food in he 2nd inning and did not return until the 4th that should not happen. I noticed that where we sat 212 there were no food vendor walking around only drinks and cotton candy perhaps they need more food vendors walking in the stands so people STAY in their seats.

    The UGLY:
    I beg if anyone from the Yankees reads this please please get rid of the annoying girl who does the trivia question and interviews during the game. It is like listening to fingernails on chalk. She has less than things to do than she had during the Cubs games but even having her do one thing is ONE too many

    I really didnt need to see George Steinbrenner like that on the biggest high def screen in the world. Another very sad moment. His wife had to help raise his hand so he could wave and he was very emotional. SHowing the photo of him from the 90s made it even worse.

  172. Teixeiramvp (JobaCyYoung) April 16th, 2009 at 9:33 pm

    SJ44-I was referring to the game, which was embarassing.
    Our bullpen has done terrible ever since Coke gave up the two run shot in game one. You’re right, we may get better, but right now we suck.
    The Yanks have done nothing yet to prove to me that they can get through the seventh inning.

  173. randy l. April 16th, 2009 at 9:33 pm

    this is a team that will live and die with it’s starting pitching. it’s going to scuffle at times with its’ offense even without injuries. it’s also going to take time for this team to settle into itself.

    things like swisher and his personality emerging and ruffling posada’s feathers are going to happen early and will get worked out as they play together. when swisher hit that homer the other night posada greeted him at home plate like he had a lemon in his mouth.not good.

    gardner is going to be a question mark all year, even if he’s does well for a while. just like ellsbury. but overall, the offense should be adequate if the starting pitching stays healthy. injuries come out of the blue like with nady , so the yankees really should have a 6th starter ready to roll at any time.

    this team isn’t deep. already injuries to arod and nady have shown that. if this team can scuffle itself to a .550 record for the first 6 -8 weeks and keep the starting pitching staff healthy, i think that’s a realistic goal.

    once it gets past that point, the team should know what it’s about and should win at a higher rate.

  174. C April 16th, 2009 at 9:34 pm

    Mets r indanger to losing to the Lowly Padres

  175. SJ44 April 16th, 2009 at 9:34 pm

    Add Ramirez to the list of guys who have pitched pretty well so far this year.

    No team in baseball has 7 relief pitchers all churning at the same time. Its just not how it works out.

    I wouldn’t be surprised if the Yankees try another 4-5 guys in an attempt to round out the ‘pen. That’s what you do because, you can’t buy a bullpen. Its too much of an unknown quantity from year to year.

    Except for Mariano of course.

  176. Vader April 16th, 2009 at 9:34 pm

    I think the play BJ made in the gap on Pena was better that the over the back one.

    I’ve read that some scouts think Pena has the glove to be an everyday player now…it’s just if the bat will follow and will being a back-up stunt his offensive growth.

  177. Teixeiramvp (JobaCyYoung) April 16th, 2009 at 9:37 pm

    randy l.-I think we’re very deep. We lose Nady but we also lose practically no productivity both in the field and at the plate. All it does is make us slightly less deep, as well as reveal our depth.
    We have pitching depth. Our big depth concern is infield, but we’ll get A-Rod soon.
    We better prove our pitching depth because pre seventh inning we’ve been getting hammered.

  178. PAT M April 16th, 2009 at 9:37 pm

    Upton is the next great player…SJ I’m right with you on the Nady play….I never thought he’d have a chance to turn in that catch….He’s already very good, and he’s only going to get better…Great athelete…..

  179. C April 16th, 2009 at 9:37 pm

    i think this is the best situation for A-Rod better than him not getting hurt cause with Ransom doing so bad yankees fan finally began to notice life without A-Rod is not good

  180. SJ44 April 16th, 2009 at 9:37 pm

    Where were you the last 2 night Tex? I was at the Trop and the Yankees got through the 7th pretty darn well and won both games late.

    The bullpen doesn’t “suck”. Stop acting like a whiny 12 year old. We have enough of them on the blog.

    Read Randy 1′s post and commit it to memory. It sums up what this team is going to be all about this season perfectly.

    It will live and die by its starting pitching and how well the everyday players hold up physically throughout the season.

    The bullpen isn’t going to be an issue.

  181. Teixeiramvp (JobaCyYoung) April 16th, 2009 at 9:38 pm

    SJ44-If guys have pitched pretty well, than why has the bulpen done bad in so many games?

  182. Giuseppe Franco April 16th, 2009 at 9:38 pm

    For those interested, DJ Mitchell had another great outing for Charleston tonight:

    6.0 IP, 4 H, 1 ER, 0 BB, 8 K

    Tough to pitch any better than he has in his first two starts:

    12.0 IP, 5 H, 1 ER, 0 BB, 14 K

    That Charleston rotation is going to be fun to watch all season.

  183. Doreen - You can tell it's me by all the smileys April 16th, 2009 at 9:39 pm

    randy l -

    David Cone was saying today that it takes about 5 turns through the rotation before it settles. So, we’re a little less than half way to that point. And your timetable would be mid-May, about. I guess that makes sense. Memorial Day seems the point where if a team isn’t doing well you start to get antsy.

  184. Teixeiramvp (JobaCyYoung) April 16th, 2009 at 9:40 pm

    SJ44-Didn’t Pettite pitch the seventh?
    And if he didn’t, that was once. Too bad they couldn’t do it today too.

  185. Doreen - You can tell it's me by all the smileys April 16th, 2009 at 9:40 pm

    SJ44 -

    I agree on Ramirez. He’s another guy who simply looks more confident, as well. Maybe it’s the “no eyeglasses look” but I think he trusts his talent right now.

  186. Teixeiramvp (JobaCyYoung) April 16th, 2009 at 9:42 pm

    SJ44-For that matter, stop acting like you’re absolutely right. I watched the games too, that’s my opinion. I’m not acting like a whiny twelve year old, you’re being pompous.
    Don’t like being called pompous? Then how about you keep this to the level of debate. I had no problem with you disagreeing with me, but don’t insult me and act like I’m an idiot.

  187. Giuseppe Franco April 16th, 2009 at 9:42 pm

    Teixeiramvp is just a teenager so 12 years old is probably not that far from being accurate.

  188. Teixeiramvp (JobaCyYoung) April 16th, 2009 at 9:42 pm

    For that matter, A.J. definitely pitched the seventh.

  189. SJ44 April 16th, 2009 at 9:43 pm

    One thing about today that will eventually seperate the Yankees from some of the other teams in the pack.

    CC didn’t have his best stuff today. Yet, he grinded through 6 innings and only gave up one run. He gave his team a chance to win the game.

    That’s what great pitchers do and the Yankees have been in short supply of guys like that in recent years.

    Here’s the way I look at it…..

    By Memorial Day, you will have the following…..

    Arod back. Tex healthy and productive. Posada fresher than he has been in years because Girardi isn’t going to be burn him out. Cano hitting ropes. Jeter being Jeter and Swisher making pitchers work.

    I’m not even talking about Damon, Matsui, Gardner or anybody else. The offense, while not great, will be better.

    My prediction is that Mark Melancon will be in the bullpen to stay by Memorial Day. They will break him in easy at first, and then he will assume a larger role as the season progresses.

    Having said all that, if they get Wang fixed, they roll out a starter everyday with a chance to dominate. That’s going to keep them in a lot of games this year.

    That’s why my concern is health and not the bullpen. The bullpen has guys close to the majors who can round it out. If guys like Arod and Tex aren’t healthy for long stretches of the season, no team can overcome that, IMO.

  190. Teixeiramvp (JobaCyYoung) April 16th, 2009 at 9:44 pm

    Okay, what is the problem with you people? These are my opinions. Disagree and debate, but stop insulting.

  191. Teixeiramvp (JobaCyYoung) April 16th, 2009 at 9:45 pm

    SJ44-I will agree that we have guys who could come up and do better. We’re not a wash. But we have sucked so far.

  192. Teixeiramvp (JobaCyYoung) April 16th, 2009 at 9:45 pm

    I love Melancon.

  193. DYNASTY IS DESTINY! April 16th, 2009 at 9:46 pm

    I keep hearing the name Melancon…and I see that SJ44 conjectured that he could arrive in May…my question is:

    Why not bring him up immediately?

  194. BetsyI April 16th, 2009 at 9:46 pm

    SJ, glad to hear that about Cano. I don’t like hearing about players wasting their talent (esp. if they are Yankees, lol) – I find it a bit of a sports tragedy. Talent is a gift – imagine waking up years after you’ve retired and regretting that you didn’t take full advantage of that? Imagine all the what ifs? Who wants to live with that feeling? Cano is so talented and he’s so smooth – that’s why people think he doesn’t try, unfortunately. Remember Kevin McReynolds? He was a very good OF for the Mets, but he just made it look easy and, as such, Met fans thought he wasn’t trying.

    That Upton catch was unbelievable – just spectacular. It was Willie Mays revisted……..

    I don’t have much faith in the arms in AAA. Melancon is talented, but he’s never thrown a pitch in the ML. He’ll have his good days and his bad days – he’s not the savior for this team. Robertson is also talented – I like him a lot. That said, he’s had control issues – how can you trust him yet? He’s got to earn that trust, like anyone else. Therefore, at this point, he’s an unknown. Claggett? Jackson? Eh – can we really expect them to come up here and do the job?

  195. Doreen - You can tell it's me by all the smileys April 16th, 2009 at 9:47 pm

    I was just going to say that more times than not that have 3 pitchers who will almost absolutely be able to go 7 innings, and once Wang gets straightened out, they have 4 of them. That alone will shore up the bullpen. Of course there are going to be “clinkers” along the way. That’s baseball.

    They will score enough runs most of the time.

    But I’m not going to allow a couple of bad games early in the season send me into a panic. There’s too much that can go right in my opinion.

  196. Teixeiramvp (JobaCyYoung) April 16th, 2009 at 9:48 pm

    DYNASTY IS DESTINY!-I’ve wondered the same thing.

  197. Giuseppe Franco April 16th, 2009 at 9:48 pm

    Okay, what is the problem with you people? These are my opinions. Disagree and debate, but stop insulting.

    ———

    I didn’t insult you. I’ve forgotten more about baseball now than I ever knew at your age.

    When you watch the game for 20, 30, or 40+ years you understand the big picture a lot better than you do as a teenager.

    That’s just the reality of it.

  198. SJ44 April 16th, 2009 at 9:48 pm

    The bullpen had streak of 14 straight shutout innings on the roadtrip when they won 3 games in a row.

    The bullpen also did the job in two tight wins against Tampa.

    Most folks only whine about the bullpen when it spits it up, like it did today. They conveinently forget the job they did when they won 3 games in a row on the roadtrip or the final two games in Tampa.

    Its a work in progress and not the final group of guys who are going to be in the ‘pen all season. Hence the arrival of Robertson today.

    Watch all the games and not just the one’s they lose, and will learn something about the game.

  199. JoeyA April 16th, 2009 at 9:49 pm

    I love the talk on this blog about bullpen.

    A bullpen has ups and downs all year. No team has a consistent bullpen all year.

    Even last year, the Mets bullpen strung together stints of talent.

    Every team deals with this kind of stuff, and, shockingly to most people, the Yankees’ money doesn’t make them immune to bullpen struggles.

    These are talented arms whom we know are good arms, and, if they break down further, we have one of the deepest, if not THE deepest, RH relief pitching.

    10 games people, 10 games!!

    First win for the Yanks in the new stadium = Joba Chamberlain

    i like the sound of that.

  200. Teixeiramvp (JobaCyYoung) April 16th, 2009 at 9:50 pm

    Doreen-If we go seven innings, fine. But this may be a problem in the playoffs.

  201. murphydog April 16th, 2009 at 9:51 pm

    Girardi and Cash seem to have had a Torre-like feeling of “trust” for Ransom. Ransom did some good things for the team last year in spots and that made him a “known quantity.” He probably also got credit for being older and more experienced, and they thought less likely to get flustered. But a few games in a row as a starter put Cody in a different light. Frankly, a utility guy like Ransom is like a middle reliever. If it works you stick with him, but if not, you move on fairly quickly. IMO it’s Ramiro time. See this note from 2006:

    http://yankees.scout.com/2/600735.html

  202. Teixeiramvp (JobaCyYoung) April 16th, 2009 at 9:52 pm

    SJ44-It did have a nice streak, but it’s been spitting it up too often.

  203. BetsyI April 16th, 2009 at 9:53 pm

    Gayle, I harp on Yankee fans all the time, but they got it right with AJ and Swish. The guy next to me shouted ” thank you, AJ!” as AJ jogged out and I suspect others were doing the same (for Swish, too). AJ’s fist pump was neat to seee – he’s so enthused about being a Yankee, even if it’s in a less obvious way than Swish.

    I thought the Stadium was just beautiful – whatever negative thoughts I had about it on tv just vanished. The seats were incredibly comfortable, though my father wondered whether future fans will rip them up…….probably, I think. The food choices were outstanding – I had a cheesesteak and garlic fries. Yum – however……$10.75 for a cheesesteak? $9.00 for a large fries? Were they using Kobe beef?

    The ceremonies were very nice, though I could barely hear the band. John Fogarty playing Centerfield was a great touch. My father loved seeing the older guys in their street clothes and sort of grew nostalgic as he recognized how much time has passed and how these guys have obviously aged…..

  204. Giuseppe Franco April 16th, 2009 at 9:53 pm

    I keep hearing the name Melancon…and I see that SJ44 conjectured that he could arrive in May…my question is:

    Why not bring him up immediately?

    ———–

    A.) It’s only April 16th and Veras had a pretty decent season for them last year. He’s also out of options so losing him now means they lose him for good.

    B.) Melancon still needs some work to round into midseason form

    Did anyone know there’s a specific reason why Melancon’s strikeout totals have increased so far this season?

    With the advice of Scott Aldred (Scranton pitching coach), Melancon changed the grip on his curveball and he’s now throwing it with much more bite – translating into more swings and misses.

    He just learned this new grip within the last couple of weeks. He needs to continue to work on it and master the pitch before he’s ready to take on the big boys at the next level.

  205. SJ44 April 16th, 2009 at 9:54 pm

    If they call up Melancon now, they lose an arbitration year with him. If they wait until May 15, they gain an arbitration year. Its a business decision that most of the teams in baseball are doing with their high end prospects because of the high cost of arbitration these days.

    Betsy,

    The guys in AAA have the ability to get the job done. Melancon for example, just may be the most talented bullpen prospect in AAA right now.

    Like ALL young players, there are growing pains. He will not be different in that regard.

    However, that kid is the real deal.

    When he eventually gets called up, it will be a one way call. He won’t be going back.

    David Robertson is also a kid that is a very good young pitcher. For the role they may use him in (multiple innings, between the 5th and 7th), he can certainly help them.

    The bullpen isn’t that bad. It never is when they have bad days. Fans just overreact.

    After the first game in Baltimore, you wanted to shoot Brian Bruney! lol How’s he doin’ now?

    You have to give guys a chance to get their sea legs in the season. The Yankees have multiple options to fix their ‘pen if guys continue to struggle. Unlike previous years.

    The key is still going to be starting pitching and the health of the regulars. That’s where the season will rise or fall with the Yankees.

  206. Teixeiramvp (JobaCyYoung) April 16th, 2009 at 9:54 pm

    I too like the sound of first win.
    I’d also like to say I don’t like to and still won’t mention or make allusions to my age on the net, but I do know no a lot about baseball, a sport I love watching, and I know a lot about baseball history that many people don’t know. I look this stuff up. Why? It’s interesting to me.

  207. Teixeiramvp (JobaCyYoung) April 16th, 2009 at 9:56 pm

    I always liked Bruney. And I still like Coke. But there’s no denying that those young arms better show up or we’ll have one of the worst bullpens in the league.
    I’m a huge Melancon fan. He’s the main reason I want Joba to start.

  208. CB April 16th, 2009 at 9:57 pm

    “My only fear about him is if the Red Sox draft him.”

    SJ,

    When I looked over his production the first thing i thought was that the Red Sox would have to be interested in him.

    They have nothing in the minors in terms of catching. Kottaras is not viable as a starter in any respect. Varitek is done.

    Hopefully he’s off the board by then!

    Jason Castro part II, perhaps. Everyone needs catching.

  209. PAT M April 16th, 2009 at 9:57 pm

    SJ, I just don’t see Veras being anything more than wjat he is…Great arm, very inconsistent and quite unreilable..If you cna’t throw strikes on a consistent basis, there’s no way you can be counted on coming out of the pen…This is especially true when entering the game in the middle of an inning….This trend goes back to last season….I just can’t see the club putting up with this very much longer….Marte will be fine in the long run, no issue with him…Pen is and will be a strength ….Less innings due to a deep starting rotation

  210. Hobs April 16th, 2009 at 9:57 pm

    I want Joba to start because he’s ridiculously talented.

  211. Teixeiramvp (JobaCyYoung) April 16th, 2009 at 9:59 pm

    “I too like the sound of first win.” is supposed to be “I too like the sound of Joba getting the first win.” Also take out the word no.

  212. Giuseppe Franco April 16th, 2009 at 9:59 pm

    I’d also like to say I don’t like to and still won’t mention or make allusions to my age on the net, but I do know no a lot about baseball, a sport I love watching, and I know a lot about baseball history that many people don’t know. I look this stuff up. Why? It’s interesting to me.

    ———

    It’s obvious the way you respond. But you obviously don’t understand the big picture.

    Melancon will get his chance soon enough. They are not calling him up for at least another month.

  213. Teixeiramvp (JobaCyYoung) April 16th, 2009 at 10:00 pm

    PAT M-Veras did good last year. Hopefully he’ll pull it together, as well as Coke.

  214. Teixeiramvp (JobaCyYoung) April 16th, 2009 at 10:02 pm

    Franco-Obvious or not obvious, you decide, still not saying.
    By the way, hering the stuff on Melancon, I’ll wait until May.

  215. SJ44 April 16th, 2009 at 10:03 pm

    If you are going to say you know a lot about baseball, logic should tell you making snap judgments about any player, or any position, after 10 games is idiotic.

    It isn’t football and if you really understood the game, you would know that.

    There are a lot of people on this blog who know a lot about the game. From the inner workings to fundamental strategy, statistical analysis, etc.

    You will learn a lot about the game here if you can control yourself.

    Most of us are sick of tired of this place turning into a sewer after losses.

    Its already destroyed the game threads. They are beyond repair.

    Simply put, we aren’t going to let it ruin the blog any more with nonsensical babble.

    Opinions are ALWAYS welcome. Nonsense, which making declarations about which players or positions “suck” after 10 games, is not welcome and those opinions will be aggressively challenged.

    Look at it another way. IF the Yankees have a GREAT year, you will be upset at least 60-65 times from the start to the end of the season. They are going to lose games. Something, GASP, by large margins.

    They once lost a game by 20 runs to the Indians on the 4th of July. That team still made the playoffs.

    Its a LONG season and there will be MANY twists and turns.

    Instead of looking at the team game by game, try month to month. You will get a much more accurate picture that way.

  216. Vader April 16th, 2009 at 10:03 pm

    My gut tells me that D-Rob and Melancon will be pitching big innings come september.

    As for now…if Wang comes around the bull pen will not be a huge issue since on most nights the starting five should give them 6-7 strong/good innings.

  217. Teixeiramvp (JobaCyYoung) April 16th, 2009 at 10:03 pm

    hering is hearing.

  218. ray (sox fan) April 16th, 2009 at 10:04 pm

    I think it is way too early to make any sweeping conclusions about either the Yankees or the Red Sox.

    Obviously I know the Sox players better than the Yankee roster, but there are just certain players who start out slower than others.

    I believe Tex has been one who usually starts a bit slow, but I will be shocked if he does not end up with some very impressive numbers by the end of the season. SJ makes a good point about the Yankee bullpen…you can’t make final judgments based on single games.

    As for the Sox, Dice-K sat out almost a whole month early last season with a tired shoulder and still won 18 games. The front end of the batting order with the notable exception of Youkilis is hitting below .200 A few years ago Pedroia started out so slow many people wanted him replaced but he ended up good.

    I do wonder about Ortiz though. Is this part of a gradual but permanent decline, or will he pick it up later this year?

    In spite of Tampa’s early success this season I still think it will come down to the Sox and Yankees at the end of the season.

  219. Giuseppe Franco April 16th, 2009 at 10:05 pm

    Franco-Obvious or not obvious, you decide, still not saying.

    ———

    Nobody is asking you to divulge your age. What I’m telling you is that it’s obvious you are a young lad and haven’t been around the game for that long.

    You have to understand the big picture before you start calling for people’s heads and panicking on April 16th.

  220. Teixeiramvp (JobaCyYoung) April 16th, 2009 at 10:06 pm

    SJ44-Why “agressively”? Why not just debate? I’m not hating on people.
    Ten games is not “nothing”. Our bullpen has not done well.
    It’s not only large margins. They blew the Royals game.
    If you don’t agree, fine, but then give the reasons you disagree.
    I have no problems with any of your points, but calling me a whiny twelve year old is unecessarily insulting.

  221. 86w183 April 16th, 2009 at 10:06 pm

    My biggest complaint about the bullpen is that it doesn’t appear to be a good “match up” pen because they have guys with spotty control. Thus, Girardi needs to leave guys in when they are looking good. There was no reason to pull Coke after he came in and got Sizemore, just as there was no reason to pullMarte Sunday after he got two outs and looked very good doing so.

    Last year Girardi was great with the pen, giving everyone a chance to contribute. But this year’s he’s over-managing for “match ups” and that’s fine when you pull a guy who is not pitching well, but it’s counter productive when the guy already in the game is pitching well.

    I know there are exceptions and other factors that go into it, but generally speaking I’m a big believer that you don’t mess with success.

  222. SJ44 April 16th, 2009 at 10:06 pm

    Pat M,

    I agree about Veras. Personally, I think he’s the most vulnerable guy to get replaced in the ‘pen and its not just because he spit it up today.

    As you correctly point out, he can’t throw strikes. His mechanics are such that if everything isn’t in sync, he’s out of sorts and the strikezone is gone.

    There are too many RH arms in the system that can replace him. Eventually, one of them will.

    One thing Girardi HATES is non-strikethrowers out of the bullpen.

    I think he gets all of April to get it together. If he can’t, I think he’s on the endangered species list.

  223. Teixeiramvp (JobaCyYoung) April 16th, 2009 at 10:08 pm

    By the way, I realize people on the blog know the game well, but I do too, in some ways more than other people know. Some ways. And some people.

  224. Joe from Long Island April 16th, 2009 at 10:11 pm

    new thread

  225. CB April 16th, 2009 at 10:11 pm

    “The player who has been impressive so far is Cano…”

    Watching him up at the plate right now… it’s a thing of beauty.

    Part of me was concerned that he was simply one of those guys who couldn’t hit until the weather warmed up and would always have a tough time in april to mid may. But that’s clearly not the case.

    But here’s what’s impressed me even more. His defense in the field.

    He fell apart defensively last year.

    Completely different this year. Much closer to what he was in 2007 this year.

    One of the few bright spots today was that tremendous play up the middle he made today to prevent that run from scoring. His range to his right was just tremendous and though it was impossible to get an out just stopping the ball from getting through the infield saved a run.

    That play took both great skill and great effort.

    Very good sign.

    Cano puts it together and he can win the batting title.

  226. Jeff NJ April 16th, 2009 at 10:11 pm

    For fantasy baseball purposes I just did a sort of international league pitchers by strikeouts year to date. Guess who is third in strikeouts, none other than Mr. Melancon with 14 in 7.1 innings. That is to go with his 0.00 ERA and 0.41 WHIP. His time has come and he is needed ASAP.

    Side note, Ian Kennedy is 2nd in the league with 16 k’s. Makes you wonder if he has found something.

  227. murphydog April 16th, 2009 at 10:12 pm

    “It’s a long season and you’ve got to trust it.”

    Annie Savoy in Bull Durham

  228. murphydog April 16th, 2009 at 10:13 pm

    “Side note, Ian Kennedy is 2nd in the league with 16 k’s. Makes you wonder if he has found something.”

    Jeff… he’s just teasing us again. I say we ignore him.

  229. Brad Pitt's better-looking brother April 16th, 2009 at 10:14 pm

    “You have to understand the big picture before you start calling for people’s heads…”

    - – - –

    Maybe Teixeiramvp is a descendant of Robespierre?

  230. randy l. April 16th, 2009 at 10:14 pm

    when the yankees were 5-4 they had a .555 winning percentage. that comes out to 90 wins in a full season. 5-4 is awfully close to win one lose one, but slowly this kind of rate separates the good teams from the mediocre ones.

    except for wang the starters have been very good. that’s the way this team was drawn up and it’s very encouraging how well they’re pitching. the yankees will slowly rise near the top of the division if the starters stay healthy and keep pitching the way they have been.

    this yankee team is not a dominant team that is going to win games at a .650 rate in the beginning of the year. maybe later and especially maybe in a late season push for the playoffs when the deep staff wears down other teams.

    despite being cynical about a cashman team, i can see the logic to this one being based on it’s starters.as long as the starting pitching stays healthy, i’m more than happy to win 5 out of 9 for a while.

  231. SJ44 April 16th, 2009 at 10:15 pm

    Is Girardi overmanaging or is he putting guys in different roles to see who emerges? I think its the latter.

    For example, on Sunday, he had Bruney pitch the 7th and Veras the 8th. I think it was a test for Veras. He flunked.

    Since then, Bruney has pitched the two 8th innings in the wins in Tampa. He seems to be raising his game and in doing so, he’s being put into bigger situations.

    Today, he gave Veras the chance in the 7th this time. He flunked again.

    At some point, Girardi is going to stop using guys he can’t trust.

    However, I think he has to move some guys around to see who can do it because there isn’t that one “guy” who has emerged to be the go to guy.

    Today, he had the misfortune of Marte being unable to pickup Veras.

    To me, its just ebb and flow of a manager trying to learn his team once you start playing games that count.

    That’s why I believe the team the Yankees put out on May 16 is going to look a lot different than it does today.

    I remember in 1995, Buck Showalter was still experimenting with his bullpen in AUGUST.

    Bullpens these days are fragile entities. That’s why I think having better starting pitching will help this team, and the bullpen, as the season progresses.

  232. Teixeiramvp (JobaCyYoung) April 16th, 2009 at 10:19 pm

    Brad Pitt’s better-looking brother-Didn’t he gillotine people and start “the reign of terror” in France.
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  233. Teixeiramvp (JobaCyYoung) April 16th, 2009 at 10:21 pm

    Buck Showalter was then fired.

  234. Barb27 April 16th, 2009 at 10:21 pm

    Gayle – very nice pictures and I’m glad you enjoyed yourself.

    With regard to Robbie, I’m happy to see him doing so well. I saw him in Tampa for 3 days and he did not look good. But, he had looked physically better than last year.

    With regard to the noise level, I think the noise level will be much less year in this stadium for two reason. First the tiers on the stadium are substanially farther back and they added numerous feet before both dugouts. Second, the cost of the seats on the first level will change the makeup of the fans on that level. I was at the first exhibition game and felt that way. Hopefully, when I go on Sunday, I will be proven incorrect. Nothing would make me happier.

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  236. CB April 16th, 2009 at 10:22 pm

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  237. 86w183 April 16th, 2009 at 10:27 pm

    SJ— It’s fine to say he’s experimenting with guys and roles, but these are guys he’s managed before and that shouldn’t be necessary. But that wasn’t my point.

    My point is he should stop pulling guys who are going well just to make a change. Instead let the man on the mound keep it going. As I wrote, Marte should have finished the inning in Kansas City and Coke should have pitched the 7th today.

  238. bodhisattva April 16th, 2009 at 11:14 pm

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    SJ, glad to hear that about Cano. I don’t like hearing about players wasting their talent (esp. if they are Yankees, lol) – I find it a bit of a sports tragedy.
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    Don’t believe it. This is so much spin. Cano spent the All-Star Break last year diligently working with his father in the DR, rather than taking time off. Girardi also said LAST year that he works tirelessly on fielding practice.

    I think Cano has embarrassed a lot of self-righteous people here who shot their mouths off about him “needing to be moved” and other assorted nonsense.

    I remember it well, because I was among a small group on here trying to explain that you don’t give up on a bat and glove as special as Cano’s. Just people trying to revise history, that’s all to make themselves look good.

  239. bodhisattva April 16th, 2009 at 11:52 pm

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    It’s his defense.

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