Game 13: Indians at Yankees
Posted by: Peter Abraham - Posted in Misc on Apr 19, 2009 
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YANKEES (6-6)
Gardner CF
Jeter SS
Damon LF
Teixeira 1B
Swisher RF
Cano 2B
Matsui DH
Ransom 3B
Molina C
Pitching: RHP A.J. Burnett (2-0, 2.70).
INDIANS (4-8)
Sizemore CF
DeRosa 2B
Martinez 1B
Hafner DH
Peralta SS
Choo LF
Garko RF
Shoppach C
Cabrera 2B
Idle P
Pitching: RHP Carl Pavano (0-2, 16.71).
Burnett vs. the Cleveland hitters.
Pavano vs. the New York hitters.
ANOTHER MOVE: RHP Steven Jackson was called up. No word yet on who is being sent down but it’s surely Anthony Claggett.
WELCOME BACK, IDLE: Carl Pavano, the American Idle, the Rajah of Rehab, the bandit who stole $39.95 million from the Yankees, will take the mound today against A.J. Burnett. If you thought yesterday was embarrassing, imagine what losing to Pavano would feel like.
He must go down and he must go down hard.
THE LAUNCHING PAD? Counting the two exhibition games, there have been 25 home runs hit in 43.5 innings at the new Yankee Stadium. While that is a lot, homers are up all over the league. Just a coincidence? Could MLB be juicing the balls to stimulate flagging ticket sales?
Steve over at Was Watching talked to a home-run expert who has some interesting data on the dimensions at the new stadium.
They’re not as exact as the Yankees led us to believe, both in terms of distances and the height of the fences. Several of the players have mentioned the fences being shorter.
Did the Yankees build a launching pad with too many overpriced seats and lousy camera angles? It’s too early to say that but there seem to be some issues in the place, that’s for sure.
WORST INNING EVER: The 14 runs the Yankees allowed in the second inning yesterday were the most allowed in franchise history. The previous high for runs allowed was 13 on June 17, 1925 in the sixth inning of a 19-1 loss vs. Detroit.
It also matched the most runs the Indians have scored in an inning. They also scored 14 in an inning in a 21-2 victory against the Philadelphia A’s on June 18, 1950.
TROUBLING TREND: The Yankees have allowed 10 or more runs in four of the 12 games they have played. At what point might they finally admit they could use a long reliever?
CANO COMES ON: Robbie Cano has hit safely in 11 of the 12 games and is at .391/.451/.630 for the season. A slow starter in his career, this could be a sign that Cano is headed for a big season.
UPDATE, 9:54 a.m.: The Yankees don’t have to report until 11:30 a.m., so no lineup as of yet.
UPDATE, 11:10 p.m.: Lineup is posted. Johnny Damon is hitting third for the first time as a Yankee and the third time since the start of the 2000 season. He did a lot in Kansas City in 1999. He’s for 4 for 7 with two doubles against Pavano.
That’s it from me. Kevin Devaney will take it from here. Enjoy the game.
UPDATE, 12:02 p.m.: Kevin Devaney here. Just got back from the clubhouse after a rather uneventful morning.
Just before we left, good ‘ol Nick Swisher walked through the clubhouse and tore off the covers of all the Daily News sitting on a table. They read “22-4!” on the front and “You Stink” over a picture of Chien-Ming Wang on the back. “New day,” Swisher shouted. “It’s a new day, brotha.”
The most notable thing was from Wang, who said that he’d rather work through his troubles in a game than have his start skipped. Normally players will defer to the manager on a decision like that, and the Yankees are strongly considering not having him throw on Friday in Boston. Wang, though, said he wants to pitch.
Girardi said that the Yankees coaching staff watched video of Wang this morning and compared it to last year. Girardi wouldn’t specify what they saw until they spoke with Wang first, which insinuates they’ve noticed something wrong. Wang meanwhile said he’s also watched film of himself and “everything’s the same as last year.” Clearly there’s a disconnect here.
Xavier Nady will have to wait at least another day to figure out what the diagnosis is on his right elbow. He took his second MRI yesterday but his doctor out West wasn’t available to examine it. He will today and discuss all five tests (two MRI, two X-Rays and a CT scan) with Yankee doctors tomorrow. Apparently they’re having a difficult time figuring out what damage is old and what is new.
Girardi said he shuffled around the lineup to break up the lefties. … Hideki Matsui (knee) gets the start at DH after hitting a double, walking and getting hit by a pinch off the bench yesterday. … Anthony Claggett (8 ER in 1.2 innings) was sent down after one day in the bigs to make room for Steven Jackson. For those who don’t know Jackson, he’s a tall righty who throws a fastball, slider and splitter and uses a sinker to get a lot of ground ball outs. He last pitched on Friday.
UPDATE, 12:48 p.m.: Obviously, yesterday’s 22-4 defeat is still burning some of you. But allow me to put a positive spin on things. Remember back to these two dates:
Aug. 31, 2004: Cleveland goes into Yankee Stadium and deals the Yankees their worst loss in franchise history, 22-0. The Yankees respond by winning 14 of 19 and secure a division title.
July 4, 2006: The Indians beat the Yankees 19-1 in Cleveland to drop the Yankees four games out of first. The Yankees respond by winning nine of 10 and 19 of 25 to climb into first place, which is where they stay the rest of the way.
April 18, 2009: Cleveland scores 14 runs in the second inning and thumps the Yankees 22-4 at the stadium. How will the Yankees respond? Smacking around Pavano would be a nice start.
UPDATE, 1:08 p.m.: This photo isn’t mean to anger you, just illustrate the fact that some of the best seats at the new Yankee Stadium are still available behind the Yankee dugout. You might think a few people weren’t here by the National Anthem, but those are a lot of empty seats.
The picture was taken on my weak camera phone, so please bear with the quality.
The rest of the stadium is filled for the most part. Enjoy the game. We’re underway.
UPDATE, 1:24 p.m.: The Mighty Pavano puts down the first three hitters he faces. Hey, even Wang got through the first inning unscathed yesterday. Now he’s on the brink of retirement/demotion/deportation.
UPDATE, 1:32 p.m.: HOMERUN COUNT: 18 in 28 innings at the new stadium. Of those, 13 have gone to right field.
UPDATE, 1:51 p.m.: Here’s the exact quote from the pregame from Girardi on Wang:
“We looked at his hands break, his leg kick where his head is and if it’s on line, the angle of his arm. We haven’t had a chance to discuss it with him yet. We had some healthy stuff that we saw and we understand that we need to make some adjustments. … Physically there are some things I think we need to correct that’s leaving him up in the zone. I just really believe no matter who you were, whether you won four Cy Youngs, it would be difficult to go through.”
And Mr. Wang said:
“Nothing is wrong. … I watched the video and everything is the same as last year.”
UPDATE, 2:11 p.m.: The people at Elias are probably scrambling right now to figure out if Pavano ever retired 10 straight hitters while with the Yankees. I’m going to guess not.
UPDATE, 2:21 p.m.: Mark Teixeira since getting a cortisone shot on his wrist on Thursday: 3 for 8 with two HR and four RBI. And he’s driving the ball pretty good now.
UPDATE, 2:31 p.m.: Question from a blogger: So why is it that Pavano feels the Yankees didn’t, as he put it, have his back? Subsitute blogmaster Kevin D: any expert insight into Pavano’s bizarro world reasoning?
I’m going to defer to Pete Abe on this one. I probably covered 40-50 Yankee games over the past three seasons, most of which Pavano was doing some sort of rehab for. The players never openly spoke bad about him, of course. I just never got the feeling that, when asked, they considered him a part of the team. How could they? He was never around.
Pete, though, would be better to respond to that than I.
UPDATE, 3:01 p.m.: Bases loaded and two outs in a one-run game. This is the most important batter Carl Pavano has ever, and will ever, face in New York.
UPDATE, 3:05 p.m.: The Yankees are officially cursed. The Curse of Carl Pavano.
UPDATE, 3:06 p.m.: Welcome Deadspin readers! Just saw this online. Pete Abe will be so proud.
UPDATE, 3:25 p.m.: Jonathan Albaladejo saves the Yankees from having this game being broken open. He comes in and gets two outs with the bases loaded. Take away his disastrous performance on opening day (3 runs and 5 hits in 3 innings) and he’s pitched five shutout innings and allowed two hits in four appearances.
UPDATE, 3:31 p.m.: The line for Burnett: 6.1 inning, three runs, three hits, two Ks, seven walks (yes, seven), two home runs, three wild pitches, one hit batter. He threw 111 pitches, only 60 for strikes. Welcome to the Wonderful World of A.J. Burnett, Yankee fans!
Pavano, by the way: 6 inn., one run, four hits, four Ks and one walk.
The Yanks have something cookin’ here. Matsui lines an RBI single to center after Cano led off the inning with a double. I smell a rally.
UPDATE, 3:38 p.m.: Thank goodness for the jet streams. Although that could be fan interference.
UPDATE, 3:45 p.m.: Umpires reviewed the play, which was originally ruled a home run. It’s upheld. All is right in the world.
UPDATE, 4:19 p.m.: Cody Ransom delivers a three-run double down the line to left. Very strange play. Not sure what Shin-soo Choo was thinking just letting that ball drop in. At any rate, it’s 7-3 Yanks and Ransom gets a much-needed boost of confidence at the plate.
Kevin, who’s back on their way from Scranton?
” It’s too early to say that but there seem to be some issues in the place, that’s for sure.”
Anyone with eyes can tell that those fences are shorter. I would not be surprised if they magically grow the next time the Yankees hit the road.
You can’t raise fences without petitioning the league. A change cannot be made until before the season begins.
Can someone tell me why the Yankees seem either scared to call up or Mark Melancon or simply refuse to. What is the point of calling up guys like Jackson and Clagett just to get hammered with no upside to them. I just don’t get it. What are the Yankees hoping to prove by leaving someone like Melancon down on the farm when the guy has been lights out.
If there reason for not calling him up is based on arbitration years and all that when you have a pen with Marte and Veras in it for starters I can just shake my head at Cashman and Girardi, pair of mooks.
“Anyone with eyes can tell that those fences are shorter. I would not be surprised if they magically grow the next time the Yankees hit the road.”
Exactly I’m beginning to hate that stadium in more ways than one. They claim the dimensions are the same but clearly that ball is not playing the same to RF, balls just go out on a line to that part of the park. That fence if this keep up all season has to be moved back some in RF.
We’ll see how it plays over the course of the rest of the season, but so far I am not enjoying the stadium dimensions to RF, despite what they have said about it being the same. It just seems that that part of the park just carries the baseball.
Chien-Ming’s BAA currently stands at an incomprehensible .622 (w/a laughable WHIP of 4.83). Ordinarily, I would think this is impossible…
All signs point towards Cano having a great year, the more reason to move him to the 2nd or 3rd spot in the lineup. It’s been 12 games, this is an important thing to change. The more balls hit, the bigger chance of getting more runs. Every time Cano comes to bat it seems like it’s either the beginning of the inning or that nobody’s on base. Good Luck to him and let’s hope Girardi makes the right moves. (added by Mobile using Mippin)
“Chien-Ming’s BAA currently stands at an incomprehensible .622 (w/a laughable WHIP of 4.83). Ordinarily, I would think this is impossible”
Its like he has to banish those numbers from his mind and look at his next outing, after he is skipped, because no way they allow him to pitch in Boston, as his first appearance of the year. Those numbers he has built up will stick with him all season. If he finishes this season with a 5.00 ERA that will be an accomplishment because right now he is in a place of ignominious mediocrity. The likes of which are historically bad.
I had said yesterday that the demensions where not the same. Specifically RCF. If you look at the 2 stadiums from a birds eye view you will see that new YS right field fence is straighter and renovated YS right field/gap had a curved wall.
But still that’s not the only reason to balls are flying out. Unlike renovated YS there is a wind current in the stadium due to the open concourses.
No one will be complaining about the fenses if yankees have won yesterday game 22-4
tt15-
just up and waiting for coffee to brew. i don’t know much about nardi contreras . i think sj44 would know more about him . the only reason i have a feel for wang is that i’m good friends with neil allen who taught wang the sinker in the first place. i sat down with neil in spring training last year and among other things we had a lengthy talk about wang.
neil allen totally knows what makes wang tick. they have kept a close relationship. wang up until that time would call allen often. i’m not sure about now. the rays and the yankees are division rivals so it makes it difficult for a player from one organization to talk with a coach from another.
i believe that any attempts to fix wang should go back to the basics that allen taught wang in the first place. wang’s sinker is a trick pitch more unique than other pitcher’s sinkers. “”He’s a weird pitcher, with an unusual approach,” says Nate Silver of Baseball Prospectus.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.c.....ees/1.html
because of this weirdness or uniqueness , the yankees have to be care what they fool around with. i will say it again .
here is what neil allen told me:
#1 he noticed that wang had the perfect arm slot to throw the sinker
#2 he showed him the sinker grip
#3 he shortened his natural long stride
that’s it. wang immediately had the devastating nasty sinker.
when wang would call allen after a bad game, allen would remind him to keep his stride short.
he also told me that he would tell wang to go up and in on hitters who would cheat up on the plate trying to get to the sinker before it sunk. the red sox do this as a team. allen told me that if his catcher wouldn’t give him the location up and in to go up and in on his own.
i caught neil as a bullpen catcher for several years and have worked with him with other pitchers so i understand where neil is coming from in his coaching. he keeps it simple, but the simplicity is based on lot of experience. he was a star pitcher at times himself and played for billy martin and torre among others and has an extensive network of friends who are pitching coaches like dave rhighetti, guidry, and don cooper of the white sox. torre called him about being the dodger pitching coach when torre got the job.
the yankees have the challenge of getting wang back to the basics that created the sinker in the first place. we want a retro wang where he has the devastating sinker. neil allen’s instructions are very simple and very clear.
i don’t see why yankee coaches can’t get wang back to these basics and am confidant that they can. on the blog late last night came to a near consensus that wang is simply not in shape yet and is still affected by the foot injury and long layoff . the yankees may have simplly miscalculated that wang was in shape and ready to pitch.
his velocity is not there. he’s about 3-4 mph low and his mechanics are all off. he’s totally fixable , and i’d advise people who are down on him to read the article i provided above to remember how good wang was.
wang is way to good to not get him back to where he was. he’s an 80-100 million dollar pitcher when he’s at his best. you don’t give up on that kind of pitcher.
“Can someone tell me why the Yankees seem either scared to call up or Mark Melancon or simply refuse to.”
I would say two reasons. The first is starting his arb clock. The second is it would require a 40 man roster move.
Not that I don’t argree with your point, but they will make that move before long. My guess is he’s added when they place Nady on the 60 day DL.
The last thing CMW has to worry about are his stats, he just needs to focus on pitching a decent 6-7 innings.
Mr. Pavano, I think I speak for all Yankee fans when I say just give up 8 runs in 2 innings, and we’ll call it even.
Really, Carl it’s for the best. Do the right thing, for once.
Giving up more than 10 runs in 4 of 12 games would be a meaingful stat if 2 of the 4 times werent solely attributable to one player.
It was stupid to send Robertson down.
Melky should be the starting CFer for now.
If you thought yesterday was embarrassing, imagine what losing to Pavano would feel like.
He must go down and he must go down hard.
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Yes! Pavano must go down!
We need to score 15 runs in the 1st inning.
imagine if Pavano pitches a ShutOut
Pavano 9inn 6H 0ER
from last night’s lively discussion: two videos helpful in looking at wang:
http://www.drivelinemechanics......ming-wang/
nice slow video of wang when he was right. notice the low release point.
http://mlb.mlb.com/media/video.....8;c_id=mlb
Good video about Wangs struggles – carl
imagine if Pavano pitches a ShutOut
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I went to the new stadium yesterday and was disgusted with the amount of empty seats next to the field.
Is it possible the Yankees can drop the ticket price after the season starts?
It’s a shame but it feels like a class war at the new Stadium. Also, no longer can kids get close for an autograph unless they have super rich parents.
The empty seats take away the home field advantage and are keeping the real fans out.
http://www.drivelinemechanics......ming-wang/
nice slow video of wang when he was right. notice the low release point.
http://mlb.mlb.com/media/video.....8;c_id=mlb
Good video about Wangs struggles – carl
On the bright side, anything has to be better than yesterday.
It was stupid to have Tomko closing in AAA because now he’s not stretched out. Steven Jackson? He’s not a long-man. If AJ gets rocked today, the Yankees are going to have to burn through their pen today……..again. At what point will the effects of Edwar throwing 50 plus pitches twice so far this season start to take their toll?
Head to the stadium soon. Hopefully we smack our good ole’ buddy Carl around.
Randy l,
Your post about Wang and Allen is very interesting. One question I have is that Eiland and Girardi have said that Wang has been throwing well in the bullpen and then looses it between the bullpen and the mound. I wonder if it could be something else besides mechanics – mental, afraid to re-injure his foot. It just seems so odd that a pitcher who was so consistent for so many seasons has just lost it a la Knoblauch when he forgot how to throw.
Jennifer, have fun. Hope that you bring the Yankees good luck.
The better question is at what point do they call up a long man?
randy l. – I’ve been reading all of your CMW analysis and just wanted to say thanks, you really are offering an average fan a new perspective. It’s much appreciated!
Now if you can get your pal Neil Allen to give Wanger a call you will gain the affection of all LoHud followers.
Melancon is not going to be the savior for this pen. Nevermind the arb clock thing (and yes, they need to wait until May 15th or whatever the date is) – the fact is, they need pitchers who can give them innings. Anything, anything to save the pen because these guys are going to be toast before the all-star break. Wang being skipped one start doesn’t help – he needs to be reworked and also to regain confidence in his foot. He can’t do that up here – it’s completely unfair to the team. You can see by Damon’s comments that the players are getting frustrated.
Have fun at the game jennifer!
The 2nd deck being further off the field probably has an effect on the wind swirling out to RF as well – Pascal’s Principle, doncha know. The faster a fluid travels over a surface, the less pressure exerted on that surface. Objects, in this case baseballs, would have a tendency to stay in that breeze/RF jetstream, hence the number of RF home runs.
Burnett will help eliminate at least some of the bad taste out of Yank fans’ mouths. Here’s hoping.
Nothing worse than settling in for a nice afternoon ballgame and acknowledging the fact that the whole nice afternoon ballgame is an utter waste of time. I know a loss is a loss, but a 5-4 would have at least had sustainable entertainment value.
Go Yanks!
Betsy,
The savior of the pen will always be good starting pitching. IDK what can be done with Wang beyond skipping a start. He can’t be demoted and he’s not hurt. He has to work his way back both physically and mentally. He’s really at a scary place due to lack of options and his performance to date. He is literally killing this team once every five days.
http://www.nypost.com/seven/04.....165180.htm
Some laughs with Nick…..
“I wonder if it could be something else besides mechanics – mental, afraid to re-injure his foot.”
cb last night was saying that he thought that the lingering effects of the injury was what was influencing wang’s mechanics. i think there’s a good chance that wang’s injury and conditioning is a factor. he just may not be ready yet.
this link carl provided last night tales a similar position:
http://mlb.mlb.com/media/video.....8;c_id=mlb
Pete
If the team can’t send the Wanger down to get his mojo back, is there talk of bringing someone up (possiby Hughes) just for a couple starts while having Wang just do side work, including a couple simulated games to drill himself on his mechanics and recharge his mojo?
The next two gamesw are being pitched by the Yankees most reliable starters in AJ and Andy, so the bullpen will have a chance to catch it’s breath.
Also, Melky should be starting in RF and Swisher DH for the foreseeable future.
The Yankees will win today to split the series.
“Now if you can get your pal Neil Allen to give Wanger a call you will gain the affection of all LoHud followers.”
wang has his cell number. i don’t know if neil can talk to him now though. he’s a rays pitching coach.
Betsy,
The pen doesn’t need a “savior.” If they have four starters that can get to (or near) the 7th inning, and then have Robertson, Melancon, and Bruney to be the bridge to Mariano, supplemented by Coke and maybe even Marte to get the tough LH hitters in the appropriate situations, and another reliever to handle long relief, they’ll be fine.
This is still a very good team that I believe will make the playoffs, and probably win the East.
They merely need to tweak the roster, and of course, get A-Rod back.
My preseason CY Young picks?
AL: Wang (0-3, 34.50 ERA)
NL: Hamels (0-1, 11.17 ERA)
Sure it’s early. But that’s impressively bad.
IMO, Pavano on the mound gives each and every one of the Yankees motivation to do something very, very special, sort of like the rush of a playoff game. I’ll be interested to see how they respond to the fresh meat on the mound.
It’s also a test of what Pavano is made of and I think all of us who have ever changed a diaper will recognize the familiar smell coming from Cleveland’s starter today.
(Sorry if the diaper image was too graphic this early in the morning, but I’m already caffeined to the gills).
Paraphrasing the late great Howard Cosell calling Foreman v. Frazier: “Down goes Pavano, Down goes Pavano, Down goes Pavano”
I am glad to see little panicking from us fans. There is no reason to panic because the team looks really good. If you remove Wang’s disastrous games, the Yankees are 6-3 which would be great. They essentially lost 3 games solely due to Wang, and it is in those games that the bullpen showed their asses. Otherwise the team has played really well. We have lost ARod and Nady, Matsui looks lost, Wang looks like batting practice, still the team is at .500. This is very good! Now here’s to crushing Pavano today!
Jeff NJ,
Right now, Melky is their best CFer. Gardner is having trouble picking up the ball, which is preventing him from getting good jumps.
“He must go down and he must go down hard.”
Our leader has spoken – CRUSH CARL!!!! Go AJ!!! Go Yanks!!!
I wonder if the Yankees will ask Wang to go to Scranton for a start or two in an effort to get him straightened out? I don’t think they can send him there without his permission.
Wang has given the Yanks the three worst consecutive starts that I can remember and I’m 50. He’s th enly reason that they could have used a “long man”. Generally that’s a wasted roster spot on a good pitching staff.
I agree with Matsui to the bench unil he is physically able to more than swing the bat.. I’m not overreacting to that late double yesterday any more than Ransom getting his fourth hit.
Randy l, thanks for the link
Jeter, right now Melancon is not going to help this team because what ails them is atrocious starting pitching from Wang (and CC hasn’t been particularly good – though obviously he’s going to be fine). Even if he was brought up, he’s not an innings eater – he’s a set-up guy.
I don’t particularly like Aceves, he had a bad spring and an even worse start to his season, but it’s ridiculous bringing up guys that, even if they pitch well, can go no more than 2 or 3 innings. This pen is toast – and in a month or so (if not sooner), these pitchers may reach a point of no return where no amount of rest will fix them. Edwar already has 2 50 plus stints on his record – that’s absolutely ridiculous. Alby has had one in Tampa and he’ll probably have another one soon enough – he’s not a long man, for pete’s sake – neither is Edwar. I’m annoyed that the Yankees are forcing these poor guys into roles they aren’t suited for because they are delusional about Wang. Whatever Wang’s problems are, they are not short term. If he doesn’t trust his foot,. then he needs to regain that trust – again, NOT on the big league level (that will take time). If his psyche is damaged, that will take time. If his mechanics are this bad, that will take time to break down and fix. In any case, I honestly feel the players are going to start taking their concerns to Joe and Cash soon if nothing is done about it……and I hope they do.
Jeter in LF: You’re right that we don’t need a “savior” if all of those pitchers perform. So far, Albaladejo, Bruney, and Mo are the only 3 relievers doing well. If they keep it up and Robertson, Melancon, Coke, Marte, and a long reliever all pitch well, then of course the Yankees’ bullpen is fine. But that’s a big question mark. Veras and Edwar both can be good, too, but right now that’s not the case.
The Yankees don’t need a bullpen “savior” if their current bullpen members and candidates perform. We’ll see how they do in the coming weeks.
By the way who was the scorer yesterday? If that ball Gardner dropped is a double than OFers will never get charges witn an error — ridiculous.
“wang has his cell number. i don’t know if neil can talk to him now though. he’s a rays pitching coach.”
Definite conflict of interest there. That MLB clip really highlights the disparity of Wang’s delivery 08 vs 09. from that vantage point it definitely appears that Wang is compensating for his right foot.
Berroa went 2 for 2 with 2 walks yesterday for SWB. The day before he hit 2 HR, going 4 for 5. I was all on board for Cody Ransom, but I think it’s time to make the swap.
If A-Rod did his rehab with the big league club, could it be any worse than Cody?
Yesterday was ugly but today is a new day!
Thank you all for the Wang pitching mechanics info. It was a good read and I learned alot.
I’m out for the afternoon so let me say now; GO AJ! Not fair to keep heaping so much on him but 7 strong would be welcome.
With the way things are going this season for our Yankees, no doubt Carl Pavano will pitch a great game–a perfect game, a no-hitter, a shutout, and, with 100% certainty, a win for the Indians.
I also noticed that the fence in right was a little lower…not that it would make a big difference, but I think Damon’s and Jeter’s homers the other day may have hit the top of the fence.
Pete brings up some good points regarding the Stadium:
“Several of the players have mentioned the fences being shorter. Did the Yankees build a launching pad with too many overpriced seats and lousy camera angles? It’s too early to say that but there seem to be some issues in the place, that’s for sure.”
As such, throughout the year there will be other things that come up and IMO will need to be addressed…I don’t know much about physics as sevrox, but you can make the fences higher that’s for sure…they can change camera angle’s and they can re-adjust ticket prices so that there are not empty seats in the lower bowl.
It’s called supply and demand or what you pay for what the market will bare…and as of right now having 200-400 seats in the lower bowl empty on a nationally televised game in a brand new 1.3 billion dollar Stadium is not good for business.
Oh and I too think Gardner needs a break in center…he seems to be getting some bad jumps on balls or is taking bad routes, maybe Melky needs to start a couple of days
randy:
Been catching up on your Wang diagnosis. Good stuff. Thanks.
Should they skip him once or twice? I’m thinking it’ll take at least two skips for any real improvement, assuming they are going to make the right fix of course. In your opinion, what’s the chances they make the right fix?
“I’m annoyed that the Yankees are forcing these poor guys into roles they aren’t suited for because they are delusional about Wang.”
Where do you want them to put Wang? Cause he CANNOT go to the minors, I thought that has already been established. Unless the delusional Yankees want to DFA Wang or declare that he is injured there are no options but to suck it up.
with the exception of the O’s series…if the Yankees split this 4 game series, they will be doing what they are supposed to be going and that is win series and split four gamers.
If that happens there will be nothing to worry about and if the games they do lose are blow-outs it will be footnotes at the end of the season and good for talk radio; blogs; espn and other baseball related shows.
Scorpio, that’s ridiculous………..suck it up? Kill the pen and possibly the season? The Yankees need a long man and at this point I don’t care how bad Tomko is – just anyone to save the arms in the pen. Let him take one for the team….or two, or three.
I know its too early to panic- but after yesterday’s debacle it seems to be it would have been a great time for a team meeting aka 1998 style. I haven’t read anything about them having one… does anyone know differently?
I say they should send Jackson back down, bring up Hughes, and make Wang the long reliever.
I would think with the off day they will skip him and not let him pitch in Fenway.
He will most likely start in Detroit and if that game is anything like his last three, he will no doubt come up with the old phantom injury and go on a DL stint.
Damon is batting third.
“suck it up” as in Wang will take up a roster spot regardless of whoever does or doesn’t get called up.
“WELCOME BACK, IDLE: Carl Pavano, the American Idle, the Rajah of Rehab, the bandit who stole $39.95 million from the Yankees”
This has to be the funniest thing I have ever read in my entire life.
I am wondering why Wang hasn’t come down with a sudden case of “arm-fatigue” that can land him on the DL for a while so he can be replaced.
I’m changing my vote from yankees will win world series to yankees will miss the playoffs.
The Detroit tigers will win the championship. All of their starters have already pitched a shutout already.
Wouldn’t Cano be better than Damon at #3?
glad to see Molina catching, I’m sure Posada will leave the ballpark early b/c he’s not behind the plate while the Yanks get embarrassed, Molina will call a good game
“The Detroit tigers will win the championship. All of their starters have already pitched a shutout already.”
As Lou Pinella said,”You don’t win championships in May.” In this case April. Don’t give up yet, this season is in its infancy.
Now that the lineup has been posted, the complaining and second guessing can now commence…
A player can accept assignment to the minors.. but I don’t think Wang could be sent there without his okay.
Definitely ship Claggett out this morning and Ransom for Berroa also needs to happen.
As for the seats… the Yanks should consider putting some of those “elite” seats up for $ 500 or so on a lottery basis. I’d probably sign up to try and “win” the chance to buy a couple of tickets and experience it when I’m in the city next month. It would raise money, fill the seats with real fans and perhaps some lotery “winners” might enjoy it enough to buy other games. Worth a try7?
Jeter in Left, Gardner is fine in CF, the bigger problem is Swisher in RF, he’s just not great there. Makes you wonder if we might get a tastet of Austin Jackson sooner rather than later, especially if Matsui needs to get DL’d. Matsui actually hit the ball well yesterday, but the uncertainty with him is annoying. He just doesn’t know if he will be up to playing in a given day.
The Yankees have to notice that their triple A team is undefeated and should be looking very closely at who to move up. They are limited by the number of dead spots on the 40 man roster.
“Should they skip him once or twice? I’m thinking it’ll take at least two skips for any real improvement, assuming they are going to make the right fix of course. In your opinion, what’s the chances they make the right fix?”
murphydog-
cb was pushing the idea before i was that wang is just not in shape yet because of the injury . if that’s the case, wang is going to have to pitch games to get stronger. it seems risky to do that at the mlb level so i think the yankees are going to have to find an “injury ” for wang so they can send him to tampa and then some starts in scranton until his velocity gets up to where it’s supposed to be.
this site i posted above had wang’s sinker at 94.08 mph when he was right.
http://www.drivelinemechanics......ming-wang/
he was 90-91 yesterday. that’s significant especially if that 90-91 is trying hard. wang’s old 94.08 was an easy 94mph.
i’m guessing wang needs a 4-6 weeks away, to clear his head and build up a strong base.
i think the yankees simply underestimated the severity of wang’s injury and it’s effect on him. but now they know ,so i suspect we’ll see him go to tampa for a mechanical fix and then to scranton for 3-4 starts.
it’s really just like if he pulled a hamstring even though they say he’s not injured. he’s going to need some time.
there is one caveat to that, and as cb says, when he gets physically and mentally in shape his release position could snap right back and he’d be wang again. so there could be some surprises with the timetable.
i’ll post a link to the release problem. he’s a almost a foot high and and a foot in from when he was right.
why not put wang in the pen for the next 5-6 days as the ‘long man’ – skip his next start – then hope he can get himself straight by the next time a fifth starter is needed (tuesday the 28th in Detroit)?
Is that what they are doing?
Wang is Done.
kelvin
April 19th, 2009 at 11:18 am
I’m changing my vote from yankees will win world series to yankees will miss the playoffs.
The Detroit tigers will win the championship. All of their starters have already pitched a shutout already
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BS. They have two team shutouts. Unless they have a two man rotation, you’re full of it.
lol no posada thats just pathetic
Molina catching Posada? A continuing trend??
No offense to Jorge, but rumblings with pitchers not liking his game calling has happened in the past. Molina seems to be much more on the same page with these guys early.
Jorge has caught Wang 3 times I believe, CC the first game and Opening Day at the stadium the other day which was a huge pitch count for him. Mostly on the pitchers
Not blaming Jorge for pitching struggles, but Molina seems to be much more in tune with some of these pitchers right off the bat. And this realizing that learning a pitcher takes some time, so may be Molina is just a quicker study.
Ah yes – A long reliever! Why didn’t I think of that before!
If only we had a pitcher who wasn’t good enough to start, close or pitch the 8th we wouldn’t be allowing all of these home runs.
“I am wondering why Wang hasn’t come down with a sudden case of “arm-fatigue” that can land him on the DL for a while so he can be replaced.”
Wang needs to go on the DL for whatever phantom “limb pain” the Yankees can come up with-sent to Tampa to work on his mechanics and mindset.
Swisher should DH, not looking very stellar in RF, and Cabrera should be in the OF. Put Matsui on DL and send him to Tampa to work out with A-Rod.
Brackman sucking up a 40 man roster spot hurts you here. The unknown taking up a spot that might be affecting who gets called up to help the team now.
So Melky hits HR’s for 2 consecutive days and back to the bench. No Posada either. I guess Girardi isn’t afraid of moving Gardner up, I like the top 5. We’re winning today people, get ready.
Wang is as done as Dice K and Lester are. Go back to the Sox chats.
http://riveraveblues.com/wp-co.....oints1.jpg
the blue dots are a good start last year. the red and blue diamonds are the first bad start this year.
the numbers are in feet.
from the left numbers, you can see he was releasing at about 5.9 feet high in 2008 ( blue dots)
and that he was at about 6.6 feet on release in the 2009 start( red and blue diamonds)
yesterday he was releasing even higher at about 6.8 feet according to gameday f/x data.
Vader
April 19th, 2009 at 10:58 am
Oh and I too think Gardner needs a break in center…he seems to be getting some bad jumps on balls or is taking bad routes, maybe Melky needs to start a couple of days
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Girardi will not do this. he made the wrong choice to begin with; he’s not going to underscore it by putting Melky in CF. Also, he thinks he made the right choice, and he’s not going to mess with Gardner’s head by having Melky in there.
The last time Burnett started, if I recall correctly, no balls were hit to Gardner. He also had 3 hits (or got on base 3x), so it was a feel-good game for him.
Also, Gardner made that breathtaking, running catch to help save the game on Friday. They have been playing him deeper (as I knew they would, since it’s Yankee Stadium) and that was going to solve the “bad breaks” problem. But yesterday those issues reared their heads again; they are going with Gardner in CF, come hell or high water. The fact that no one seems to notice when he takes a bad route works in their favor, because there’s neither fan nor media pressure to change things.
Let’s hope he figures it out; they won’t be going to Melky any time soon.
That lineup will teach Melky to HR two days in a row. Maybe Matsui can get another double… he can probably score from there on a triple.
Stop with the “Jeter to LF” nonsense… it’s as likley as Pavano getting hurt and pitching through the pain.
Its so funny how you can read this blog and see the intelligent rational discussions from guys like Randy, GB, and others and then on the other hand you get to read the idiotic complaining, annoying, depressing drama from the usual morons.
Its really a 2 class faction in here.
How did Girardi make “the wrong choice?” Melky has been on two years of decline. Gardner had the better spring and is now getting a chance.
Melky, over the past two years, made just those same types of mistakes about routes to balls or bad jumps.
chazzh-
I totally agree, similar to what they did with Mussina in 2007.
“why not put wang in the pen for the next 5-6 days as the ‘long man’ – skip his next start – then hope he can get himself straight by the next time a fifth starter is needed (tuesday the 28th in Detroit)?”
i guess they could,but it doesn’t seem like wang would get enough work on a consistent basis . he needs to pitch his way into shape so i’m not sure about how this would happen if he depended on a starter failing for him to pitch.
“Pavano must go down & he must go down hard”. No truer words have ever been typed! I expect a big NYY day. Maybe tomorrow’s Sprinsteen reference will be, “in the tunnels uptown, the Rat’s own dream guns him down.”
“breathtaking catch”???? Has his play lowered the bar so much that you consider that breathtaking?
What are your thoughts on the breathtaking drop of a relatively easy play Saturday that his mother (I assume she was the official scorer) somehow ruled a double?
It does help that AJ is due for a bad game.
It doesn’t help that AJ is due for a bad game.
It doesn’t help that AJ is due for a bad game.
If AJ is due for a bad game, then Wang will match Johnny Vandermeer’s accomplishment his next two starts!
I hope so…because he has the one thing you can’t teach and that is speed. However, minus the game in Boston when he was 20…I don’t remember Melky having too many bad games defensively.
Jeff NJ
April 19th, 2009 at 11:23 am
Jeter in Left, Gardner is fine in CF,
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Actually, he hasn’t been. He has been struggling since Day 1. It’s obvious to me on TV but when you’re at the games, it’s extremely hard to miss. I guess Girardi is willing to live with this in the hopes he’ll improve, which is certainly possible. But I agree with Jeter in LF – Melky is way more reliable in CF.
“Scorpio, that’s ridiculous………..suck it up? Kill the pen and possibly the season?”
Another ridiculous comment. But that’s certainly not the only one.
“I don’t particularly like Aceves, he had a bad spring and an even worse start to his season, but it’s ridiculous bringing up guys that, even if they pitch well, can go no more than 2 or 3 innings. This pen is toast – and in a month or so (if not sooner), these pitchers may reach a point of no return where no amount of rest will fix them. Edwar already has 2 50 plus stints on his record – that’s absolutely ridiculous.”
Its all whining, complaining retarded nonsense.
If Wang keeps pitching the season is over. Its stupid to bring up a guy who can only pitch 2 oe 3 innings. Why? What planet are you from?
This one is my favorite… In a month the pen will reach a point of no return. No amount of rest will fix them. Right.
I think you’re getting this blog confused with a soap opera blog. Please go find one.
This is a must-win game that will either make or break the season.
miggs
April 19th, 2009 at 11:32 am
Its so funny how you can read this blog and see the intelligent rational discussions from guys like Randy, GB, and others and then on the other hand you get to read the idiotic complaining, annoying, depressing drama from the usual morons.
Its really a 2 class faction in here.
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I think I’m going to cry. Ithink you just insulted me when you compared Randy to me.
I think I can live with it, but, please let’s make a bunch of posts so Randy doesn’t see this and get a swelled head. You know that we’ll never hear the end of this.
Chris in NM-
Well just hope that his “bad game” is 7 innings and 3 ER
>It doesn’t help that AJ is due for a bad game.
That doesn’t make any sense.
SJ was right about the board being infested. Trade for Pujols, Peavy and Beltran and only give up Igawa, Marte, and Cash. The Yanks can do that in an hour and have them here by game time.
Enjoy your Sunday, kids.
As I said yesterday. Cleveland is a “Dead Red” team, and that means that Burnett’s big curve and change-up better be working along with that big, moving fastball.
I heard Wang threw for 2 touchdowns yesterday
Glad that Molina is catching AJ today. They have worked really well together. AJ has said he loves the way Molina calls a game and the Yanks need another big performance from AJ today. Why mess with a good thing.
The Yankees just have to beat Pavano today. IMO loosing to him would be the low point of the season so far, not any of the blowout losses.
I was there yesterday. First trip to the new yard. Lots of emotions. Most negative. Embarrassing.
Michael Kei (Igawa)-
Yes and he was generous with the ball, lots of different fans caught one.
Here are 2 questions for you, Pete.
1. Do the Yankees wash their uniforms or do they use new ones every game?
2. Do fans want the game shortened or is this an idea fostered by writers & announcers?
If Burnett curve isn’t working look for another high scoring game.
It’s a long season. They have to relax and play it one game at a time, looking for something in each individual game to get stoked about. Today is “Kill Pavano Day.”
Wang is not the team’s problem to fix, he’s Eiland’s problem and maybe Girardi’s and Cash’s problem to figure out. “Let go and let God” already. Everybody just needs to do their own specific job and leave the worry to someone else.
6w183
April 19th, 2009 at 11:33 am
“breathtaking catch”???? Has his play lowered the bar so much that you consider that breathtaking?
What are your thoughts on the breathtaking drop of a relatively easy play Saturday that his mother (I assume she was the official scorer) somehow ruled a double?
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Umm…I have been saying all along that he is not a good CF. I guess you missed my gazillion posts on this. I have been advocating since ST that Melky be the CF. I have been saying that Gardner is a guy with speed who has no idea how to track a ball. I have been saying this is baseball, not track. I have been saying that Cabrera is an under rated CF, who has been miscast as a failure at 24 because of non-baseball considerations. I have been saying that Cabrera’s body type fools people into thinking all sorts of silly nonsense about him – chief being that he is just an arm.
The catch, however, was a breathtaking catch. I sat in Terrace right over the plate, and it was a great one. I will agree that it’s a catch he has to make. And he did.
Randy l-Enjoyed reading your links
“Silver explained that he had contradictory but overall good thoughts about Wang. He believes that the league may catch up to Wang next year, at least in the first half, but that Wang has the intelligence and the stuff to eventually make the necessary adjustments.”
The Cleveland Indians had Wang figured out in the 2007 playoffs- to try and work his count, forcing him to throw strikes, therefore negating his sinker. He will not regain his confidence and mechanics in the bullpen-IMO send him to Tampa.
It is my opinion that Melky is better than Gardner and yesterday sealed it for me.
Mely may be better than Gardner, but he is much better than Swisher in RF. So the place he can make the bigger impact is in RF. Assuming Swisher is the everyday DH.
bodhisattva — fair enough, sorry if you felt I was guilty of misrepresenting your views… I just wasn’t wowed by that catch and I was apalled by his drop yesterday which contributed mightily to the inning from hell.
Miggs… try midol
If Melky could have just batted a respectable .265 – .275 last year… the only way Gardner would have made this team would have been as a pinch-runner/4th OF.
I really Gardner, but he has raised my eyebrows a few times on some balls over is head I thought he should have gotten or the ball he dropped yesterday.
gb 7-
i think i clicked onto to something yesterday and last night with the ongoing discussions . if any of us plays the blame game the blog goes to crap pretty fast. posters like you, cb, sj44, doreen, nick in sf, patrick,pat m, v and many others took part yesterday and last night and it ended up there was a bit of a blog consensus about wang emerging.
early on, i was right on the edge of saying eiland must have changed his arm slot up, but i never came right out and said it. if i had said it , i would have been playing the blame game and all hell would have broken loose . i’ve done it before and seen others do it and we don’t get anywhere when that happens.
so i kept my thought somewhat to myself and with some discretion went back and forth with cb and nick in sf about what the issue with wang and eiland. i came to a slightly altered and more accurate perception of the problem where there wasn’t any one person to blame. in other words no blame game.
that seems a better approach in general when discussing hot button issues. a little civility and restraint keeps the dialog going and info from a lot of sources coming in.
for instance carl who i haven’t seen before threw in a video link that brought a lot of disparate things together.
now i like trash talk as well as anyone, but there’s a limit to it if the blog is going to be a
good forum for open discussion.
by the way, glad you finally got up and joined the discussion today. must be nice being retired
There are two reasons I keep coming back to this blog. One is Pete. The other is the quality of the discussion, and I don’t mean the congenitally brain dead.
Last night’s, and again this morning’s, discussion by randy I, CB, Pat M, and others, on Wang’s problem and mechanical issues, was priceless for me.
Thanks, guys.
Hey, anyone know how many rows of the grandstand near 1B are protected from rain? Is the 3rd row covered?
Also, how early early in the day have the Yanks been known to call a game due to rain?
Excited for our 1st New Yankee Stadium visit tomorrow but it doesn’t look good…
Thanks for any help!
86w183
April 19th, 2009 at 11:58 am
bodhisattva—- fair enough, sorry if you felt I was guilty of misrepresenting your views… I just wasn’t wowed by that catch and I was apalled by his drop yesterday which contributed mightily to the inning from hell.
Miggs… try midol
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Thanks, NP. I think Wang’s issues have overshadowed this for the fan who needs to be hammered over the head when it comes to outfielders running bad routes. It remains under the radar, for the most part, with people even pronouncing how great his defense has been. To them, I don’t know what to say, really.
Hopefully Burnett can keep the ball in the yard today. With the way balls are flying out, I’d welcome a 2-1 or 3-2 game.
melky should be playing today.melky plays better defense and is a better hitter then gardner
We cannot lose to Carl Pavano today.
Yazman (aka David)
April 19th, 2009 at 12:02 pm
Hey, anyone know how many rows of the grandstand near 1B are protected from rain? Is the 3rd row covered?
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Believe the covering starts from 6th row up.
Did Girardi really say that Phil Hughes comes up with a permanent place or not at all? I don’t think he’s that fragile.
If CMW goes to the pen now, or after one more bad start, if I were Hughes, I’d want the shot. If Hughes is great, CMW is great in relief, and everyone else is fine/healthy, then let Girardi deal with the “good problem” of having 6 great starters.
Hope AJ brings his A-game, because the pen is toast and that line up looks abysmal.
Gardners catch in in the 9th on Fri was pretty good but those plays have so far been the exception and not the rule.
The fact is that Gardner and the rest of the outfield’s defense has been sort of shoddy. Swisher’s been so-so and Damon does his best but has a limited ability. Melky might be the best defensive player out there and that’s not saying much.
AHEM!
Michael Kay just announced that it looks like the Yankees are going to go with a long man. Kudos to all of those of us who were perspicacious enough to:
1. recognize the need for it when they announced the starting team at the end of spring training
2. call for it every day since!
Regarding Wang’s next start – let’s cross that bridge when we come to it.
Yank’s have an off day Thurs. He’ll be skipped in the rotation.
If the Yanks get a rain out – they can skip him again. If not – they have 10 days to figure something out.
Everyone is talking about Wang – there has been little talk about Marte. He seems lost on the mound as well.
Interesting note by Kevin from the Yankee clubhouse on Wang. Wang claims that everything is the same as last year and wants to work it out in a game. Clearly it can’t be the same as last year or he’d have better success, and I don’t think the Yanks can afford to have him “work it out” against the Red Sox.
now the good news today is aj burnett starting for the yankees. he’s watched wang get pulverized twice before already this year and come back and shut down the opposing team the following day
i don’t think aj is the kind of guy who likes to watch the other team running around the bases for four hours . i think when he goes to the mind today, it’ll be with a little edge.
i think back to what he did to longoria after swisher was challenged by garza in the last game.
burnett might be the yankee stopper this year.
randy l.
April 19th, 2009 at 12:00 pm
gb 7-
i think i clicked onto to something yesterday and last night with the ongoing discussions . if any of us plays the blame game the blog goes to crap pretty fast. posters like you, cb, sj44, doreen, nick in sf, patrick,pat m, v and many others took part yesterday and last night and it ended up there was a bit of a blog consensus about wang emerging.
early on, i was right on the edge of saying eiland must have changed his arm slot up, but i never came right out and said it. if i had said it , i would have been playing the blame game and all hell would have broken loose . i’ve done it before and seen others do it and we don’t get anywhere when that happens.
so i kept my thought somewhat to myself and with some discretion went back and forth with cb and nick in sf about what the issue with wang and eiland. i came to a slightly altered and more accurate perception of the problem where there wasn’t any one person to blame. in other words no blame game.
that seems a better approach in general when discussing hot button issues. a little civility and restraint keeps the dialog going and info from a lot of sources coming in.
for instance carl who i haven’t seen before threw in a video link that brought a lot of disparate things together.
now i like trash talk as well as anyone, but there’s a limit to it if the blog is going to be a
good forum for open discussion.
by the way, glad you finally got up and joined the discussion today. must be nice being retired
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LMAO. I’m sorry for laughing, but, seeing randy l., discretion, restraint and civility just threw the world off it’s axis.
No kidding aside, I read the posts last night with great interest. Part of what was being said, I noticed, too, but, ya’ll were doing well enough that reading it was more useful than my parroting the same things. I enjoyed that and am greatful you guys brought these things up.
There are’t enough discussions of this nature without it getting bogged down when trying to sort through the garbage posted by the idiots and trolls. Of course, it doesn’t help much when some of the subject headlines are started solely to draw in the trolls.
Hopefully, there will be more of these types of posts and less of the other types.
As for “it must be nice to be retired”, I hate it. I feel like I’m Carl Pavano without the big money. Like I’m stealing money or something.
There are some conversations that I don’t get involved in, because not much more to add than “I agree”. I do enjoy posting updates on the kids that I watch playing in Charleston and Tampa, when I get to see them. I’m hopeful that the weather starts getting better, so I can get to the games. Hopefully by May. Again, I enjoyed last night’s conversations. Thanks to all the folks input.
rather : ” i think when he goes to the mound today, it’ll be with a little edge.”
“Michael Kay just announced that it looks like the Yankees are going to go with a long man.”
This is in response to unforeseen circumstances, not a matter of correcting a mistake in going without a long man out of ST. Nobody expected Wang to be so incompetent in his first three starts. If Wang doesn’t flame out in the first or second inning three times in a row, they don’t need a long man.
Just before we left, good ‘ol Nick Swisher walked through the clubhouse and tore off the covers of all the Daily News sitting on a table. They read “22-4!” on the front and “You Stink” over a picture of Chien-Ming Wang on the back. “New day,” Swisher shouted. “It’s a new day, brotha.”
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That’s right brotha! It’s a brand new day.
Fran, not always a popular topic but I want your take on it anyway. I know even if it is the case it wouldn’t account for everything, but do you ever have the feeling that Posada is part of certain pitchers’ problems? He does have a history of having pitchers ask for another catcher. I just remember how Rasner was on top of his game last year with Moeller as his catcher and how he totally fell apart as soon as Jorge started catching his games.
It makes me really uncomfortable to even have that feeling, but it’s always there with me.
Wang’s desire to pitch his way out of this in the bigs either shows confidence or denial and I can’t figure out which.
One thing for sure is that he’s hurting the team. Is Fenway the place for him to find his mechanical mojo?
The Sox will be salivating but if he does find it, how deflating will that turn out to be.
I thought the Yanks sent a decent message last week out at the Trop. It sure would be nice to send a similar message next weekend.
Nice that Wang wants to pitch through his “problems” – the team comes first, though, and the Yankees are not going to let him do that. If they do, they are fools. The fact that he doesn’t think anything wrong is also pretty disturbing.
Trish, until I see indications from the Yankees that they are going to recall a long man, I’m going to hold off on throwing a party. Why’d they call up Jackson if they were going with a long-man?
I sure wish the Yanks would let Wang work out his problems in AAA, and replace him with Phil Hughes. But, I guess that’s not their plan.
I am in my daughter’s dorm and out for the afternoon, and I haven’t read anything but what Pete and Kevin wrote.
But clearly, if by watching that MLB video that Carl posted last night, I can tell he looks different from last season. Wang is clearly in denial.
Good luck to AJ today. Let’s Go Yankees!
David
April 19th, 2009 at 12:32 pm
I sure wish the Yanks would let Wang work out his problems in AAA, and replace him with Phil Hughes. But, I guess that’s not their plan.
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Why don’t you give the board and the world a break for at least on day, and stop repeating the same BS every post. You’re wrong, you’re boring and tiresome.
“This is in response to unforeseen circumstances, not a matter of correcting a mistake in going without a long man out of ST.”
Well there are a number of us who would see it otherwise. I think that both history and caution tell you that having a “6th starter” in your pen both desirable and wise. That’s your long reliever. In my estimation it is ridiculous to have nothing but short relief. It isn’t like the Yankees don’t have people who should have been plugged in.
My opinion. But again I was pretty perplexed that the Yankees didn’t go with long relief from jump street. We’ve all seen the residuals of burning out your pen as well as your offense.
Congrats and good luck to Steven Jackson! He’s a good pitcher and a great guy.
“I sure wish the Yanks would let Wang work out his problems in AAA, and replace him with Phil Hughes. But, I guess that’s not their plan.”
They can’t do that, without passing him through waivers.
If you think he’d pass through waivers, I have a few houses in Florida to sell ya.
Giradi’s pre game interviews are so predictable
I don’t think we can have Wang work through his troubles in a game again. I think he is in denial. I dunno. We just have to wait and see what happens.
For now, let’s win the game today.
“Trish, until I see indications from the Yankees that they are going to recall a long man, I’m going to hold off on throwing a party. Why’d they call up Jackson if they were going with a long-man?”
Bets, I think it’s a matter of the 40-man roster. For instance, if they were to want to bring up Tomko, they would have to get him onto the 40-man roster.
I agree though that until it’s done, I can’t feel totally free to cheer about it.
Kim Jones said that she spoke with Mark DeRosa and he said that he got his double on a pitch where he was just trying to protect the plate – apparently he was still incredulous this morning. That’s not a good sign…..
Also interesting – she said that Eiland told Burnett that he can’t be thinking about giving up a fly ball that could very easily go out of the park. The pitchers just have to pitch……That tells me that the park is already starting to affect them in terms of their thinking.
http://www.baseball-reference......2003.shtml
what a nice collection of young pitchers:
pavano
penny
beckett
dontrelle willis
aj burnett
redman
Doreen
April 19th, 2009 at 12:34 pm
I am in my daughter’s dorm and out for the afternoon, and I haven’t read anything but what Pete and Kevin wrote.
But clearly, if by watching that MLB video that Carl posted last night, I can tell he looks different from last season. Wang is clearly in denial.
Good luck to AJ today. Let’s Go Yankees!
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I’m not so sure that Wang’s in denial, as much as he’s too close to the issues to see it. The old “everyone else can see the difference, but it looks the same to me.” That’s a pretty common thing as far as my experiences go.
as an example, some people see me as being an ass, but, I think I’m perfect.
“Girardi said that the Yankees coaching staff watched video of Wang this morning and compared it to last year.”
This makes it sound that the first time they looked at tapes from last year was this morning – I hope that is not the case.
Trisha, I think it is a question of pitchers getting comfortable with a catcher. Since Posada missed most of last season, pitchers became comfortable with Molina.
I am sure that there are pitchers that are probably more comfortable with Posada.
One thing that Molina definitely offers right now is a stronger throwing arm with Jorge coming off the shoulder surgery.
it’s incredible how having a park in almost the same location could have such an effect, maybe the concourses, you would think the engineers would have thought of this if that’s the reason the ball is flying out
“Meet Me Under O’Neill’s Banner”
Sung to the tune of “Take Me Out To The Ball Game”
An ode to the first 3 home games on Lohud.
Meet me under O’Neill’s banner
Wang’s release point is off
Buy me a ticket in the legends seats
There’s plenty of room for me to put up my feet
So the winds the root of the long ball
The net in the foreground is lame
So let’s light up Pavano and right all these wrongs
It’s a new ball game.
One more comment about the park and HRs – While they may not make physical changes to the Stadium during the year, the old Stadium is going to be torn down, no? How is that going to affect the wind currents and other things? Anyone’s guess.
Fran, what do you think it’s about when veteran pitchers have not wanted to have Jorge catch their games? Moose said that Molina was the best catcher he ever had call his games. If you remember, Randy Johnson didn’t want any part of Jorge after the season began and when he was switched over to (can’t remember our backup then) he did a lot better. I don’t hear a lot of pitchers saying they don’t want Varitek to catch their games. There has to be a problem there and I would love to hear someone articulate what it is. I’m trying to figure it out. If there are pitchers who haven’t wanted any part of him, and if there are pitchers who pitch better with another catcher, you have to at least ask what the heck is going on with that.
At least I do!
Bronx Jeers
Great song.
Is today going to be a “Banner Day”?
YES network’s pregame showed Wang getting an out in the 1st and allowing a homerun in the 2nd.
His mechanics in the 1st looked a LOT closer to 2008 Chien-Ming Wang than to his mechanics in the 2nd. He definitely lost something from 1st inning to 2nd. His leg kick seems to be the #1 culprit, as it’s the initial move.
All I know is that besides CC’s first start, I have been incredibly impressed with the starting pitchers. Obviously not Wang. But CC, AJ, Andy and Joba (yes, even Joba) have given us the chance to win or take the lead in most or all of their starts.
But the fact remains the same. We cannot do anything spectacular if Wang keeps chewing up our bullpen every 5th day. Ya just cant.
Funny stuff Bronx Jeers
Fran
April 19th, 2009 at 12:42 pm
Trisha, I think it is a question of pitchers getting comfortable with a catcher. Since Posada missed most of last season, pitchers became comfortable with Molina.
I am sure that there are pitchers that are probably more comfortable with Posada.
One thing that Molina definitely offers right now is a stronger throwing arm with Jorge coming off the shoulder surgery.
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And, yet, so far, Posada is catching 40% (6 steals, 4 caught).
Molina is 50% at 2 and 2. Not much difference.
On another note, I actually waited under the O’neill Banner yesterday with a sign that said: “Looking for Ransom Sucks.”
No one showed haha.
Dr Cox
I’m glad you didn’t get arrested for pandering.
“Just before we left, good ‘ol Nick Swisher walked through the clubhouse and tore off the covers of all the Daily News sitting on a table. They read “22-4!” on the front and “You Stink” over a picture of Chien-Ming Wang on the back. “New day,” Swisher shouted. “It’s a new day, brotha.”
Nick might be a fan of LOST. That sounds like something Desmond would say.
Can someone explain how MLB can discipline starting pitchers like everyday players or even relief pitchers and it is fair? I am not just saying this because Beckett got his suspension reduced to 5 games but if he were an everyday player or a reflief pitcher 5 games actually means something but for a starting pitcher 5 games doesnt mean a thing thus what purpose does it serve to give him 5 games.
If a starting pitcher gets suspended it has to be a minumum 6 games inmy opinion that way the players actually misses a start and it means something otherwise no point.
AJ’s nickname was bada$$
Joe from Long Island
April 19th, 2009 at 12:48 pm
One more comment about the park and HRs – While they may not make physical changes to the Stadium during the year, the old Stadium is going to be torn down, no? How is that going to affect the wind currents and other things? Anyone’s guess.
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Bewteen the changing wind currents and those that will surely come, I think that the unseasonably warm weather in the upper east has a lot to do with it.
I’m curious if they’ll block off the openings between the outfield stands and video screens. I’m more of the belief that it’s a combination of all that and bad pitching, so far.
NYY had no issues during the exhibition games with the Cubs, and those guys can mash with any team.
Wow, what happened to the good old, modest and obedient Wang?
The bad starts are really getting into his head, because his normal personality wouldn’t have made him defer the coaches.
Plus, yesterday during the post-game interview, he actually was making excuses for himself, saying that he was “pissed” the Indians were fouling off his good pitches, then he missed his spots and they got to him…
GreenBeret7, I didn’t realize that Posada and Molina were so close in throwing runners out. I guess it’s the perception that Molina is stronger than Posada.
Trisha, I don’t know. Maybe it’s personality, the game they call. I guess it is who the pitchers get comfortable with.
Running out now. Have my DVR set. Good luck Yankees.
To me the most interesting thing from the pre game was Bruney’s comment an this was actually discussed here last night was that much of Wang;s issues might have to do with confience in his foot.
For those that missed it Bruney said that about 2 months ago he was about the same place where he thinks Wang is in terms of having no confidence on his foot actually holding up when he landed. Kim JOnes pointed out that Wang’s injury happened after Bruney’s so that may exactly where Wang is now. Bruney said he just had to fight through it and look where he is now.
Hey, to people who have been to the new park, did they move the huge bat there as well?
Lura-
The bat stayed at the old stadium
Kay said that Pavano didn’t do much as a Yankee. That has to be the understatement of the century.
Trisha what’s going on? Haven’t seen you around much.
Don’t worry, you didn’t miss anything yesterday, that’s for sure.
I’m not really referring to CS. And if I were, I would think that the catcher who has more games under his belt would have more opportunity. I’m talking to the way a catcher calls a game – the pitches he calls for and the success he has. I am also questioning why it is that pitchers have asked not to have Jorge be their catcher when I don’t hear the same thing about other catchers.
I’m trying to understand it because I always believe that where there is smoke there is fire.
I love Jorge and probably wouldn’t rather have many people at the plate in a close game. I think he is fiery and incredibly clutch. But the other stuff really bothers me.
Thanks gayle!
gayle:
Bruney also throws one inning. Wang should be going ALOT more.
Hey Miggs!
I decided to opt out of posting during games when the Yankees aren’t winning resoundingly, only because I don’t enjoy dealing with the tremendous whining and stupidity and panic that happens in those cases. Yesterday though I had an event to attend so left because of that also!
How’s by you?
>Nick might be a fan of LOST. That sounds like something Desmond would say.
The actual quote was, “It’s a new day, PENNEH!!!”
Wow gayle thanks for that comment about Wang’s foot.
GO AJ!
Big Fat empty blue seats!…
It kills me that there are soo many god damn empty seats.
This is a big issue!
Oh more empty seats. This is a travesty. It’s been embarrassing to be a yankee fan watching these games. Noise doesn’t make it to broadcast, the front office has priced out the fans, and every ball flys outta the park. I’m actually excited for road trips.
“Just before we left, good ‘ol Nick Swisher walked through the clubhouse and tore off the covers of all the Daily News sitting on a table. They read “22-4!” on the front and “You Stink” over a picture of Chien-Ming Wang on the back. “New day,” Swisher shouted. “It’s a new day, brotha.””
YOU TELL’EM NICK !
The Gehrig Bat will most likely be brought over. It was a gift to the Yankees from Elinore Gehrig.
Now what?
What must Hal be thinking right now?
Corey we talked about that at a birthday party I attended last night (where 2 other people out of the 35 were Yankee fans.) The suggestion was that the Yankees drop way back on the price of those seats – but then they would have to rebate every one of the people who have already paid the higher price and probably give an opportunity to all of the season ticket holders who might want to opt into those seats, etc. Talk about a domino effect!
Grady is starting to get on my nerves.
You know there are a lot of issues right now but one of the biggest to me – and probably one for which there is no resolution, or certainly no immediate resolution – is watching singles fly out of the ballpark. I think we all know that 22 runs wouldn’t have happened in the other ball park.
its two outs…..yay!
it’s pretty bad when I’m reacting to very pop up; hoping it doesn’t go out
I was thinking that maybe that ball could have been caught…
a strike out right here would be wonderful
yea that was poor tracking on Cody’s part.
Seems like there are more and more empty seats every day.
Its ridiculous to have the bleachers, upper deck packed to capacity and all these fantastic seats behind the plate and between the bases just empty.
Of course you couldn’t predict this economy back then, but that just goes to show how absurdly expensive these seats were priced. How stupid do the Yankees feel right now? It looks SO bad to not have people filling those plush seats. Entire SECTIONS are empty. Crazy.
Even in an improved economy next year, look to see those seats dramatically cheaper.
wonderful indeed
“The actual quote was, “It’s a new day, PENNEH!!!””
LOL! I think that’s how you spell that.
Trish I’m good. Did you go to opening day like you had planned?
Well they need to do something fast, because it is pathetic.
I went to the game on Friday and the stadium was soo quiet and everyone stands now. The speaker systems needs to be fixed.
I honestly think the stadium is a great example of why we are in a recession. Spending money and too much money and saying there will be buyers but in reality its just fraud. The stadium should be called the bernie madoff field, because anyone who can go to these games must of invested with madoff
Can Carl Pavano go on the DL for having his feelings hurt?
Redemption time…..I wont be happy unless we put up 22 runs this inning.
Can the Yankees lower ticket prices once the season starts or they have to wait for next season?
yeah miggs ownership knew the economy as in the pits 6 months ago but they still didn’t make adjustments, it’s a bit embarrassing that the New York Yankees are not playing in front of a packed house for every weekend game
miggs, I did make it to opening day. In fact I ended up in one of those front row seats that I got off stubhub the day before and got at a good price! Sometimes the last-minute plans are the best ones!
“it’s pretty bad when I’m reacting to very pop up; hoping it doesn’t go out.”
That’s exactly how I feel too. The Indians were clearly trying to hit fly balls in that inning, and every single one made me hold my breath. I really hope this doesn’t continue, because you’d like to feel comfortable about home games.
***yawn*** come on ggbg!!
I hate Pavano. Just saying.
Here we go.
Michael Kay, stop making excuses for Pavano.
In about another day I am going to be really tired of all these complainers about the empty seats at the Stadium it is what it is, the team is not moving back to the other stadium so please just get over it not much that can be done about it now. They are not going to reduce the costs of those seats this year asthey would also have to refund the difference to the people that already bought those seats thus costing them more money.
Any cvhanges to pricing is not going to happen until next year so we as fans as the Yankees will just have to deal with it this year. The complaining is getting very old very quickly.
This man makes my blood boil
Kay actually defending Pavano?
A strike out and two weak grounders.
Against Carl Pavano.
This is going to be a long day, isn’t it?
Pavano 1-2-3 inning with a strikeout and 2 putouts?
Ugh, I can see this is going to be a long day…
Pavano 1-2-3 inning with a strikeout and 2 putouts?
Ugh, I can see this is going to be a long day…
The empty seats are really embarrassing, but the prices are more so
goodness
going out on a limb here. If the yankees lose to pavano, im taking a baseball break until the boston series.
We all knew this was coming.
It’s Mussina’s Fault!
What is more embarrassing is the slobbering Valentine that Kay just gave Pavano!
This team really needs Arod in a big way !!
This team doesn’t have enough offense to take advantage of their own home ballpark. It’s embarrassing.
Why are Gardner and Ransom still playing? Melky is hitting right now, and Pena is just way better than Ransom to begin with and is a young player who needs playing time.
Pavano showing some athleticism! If he was in pinstripes he’d have pulled a cheek muscle smiling after that play and have to go on the 60 day DL.
Kay is an absolute joke. Please wish him well on his future endeavors
K, and 2 weak ground balls against the Idle? Ugh.
Corey also one doesnt have to be a “madoff investor” to afford tickets my season tickets actually went down in price it is the field level seats where the Yankees messed up but like I said it not much they can do about it now
1-0
I officially hate this stadium.
This stadium is a joke.
SA, mel, and Trisha,
thought you would probably like to see this pic: http://tinyurl.com/cotm6w , it’s awesome!
Wow
Choo
I have never seen anything like this in my life.
Every Indians player is just taking batting practice, TRYING to put the ball in the air to right field. Our hitters don’t have enough power to even put the ball in the air. Pathetic.
Here we go again. Our guys should just lift the ball to RF.
These homeruns are getting ridiculous.
I want Choo to be on this team. I been wanting him since he was a prospect for the Mariners.
Ed-Awesome picture!
You can’t blame that rocket on the stadium. He got that one.
These Yankees really only have two serious problems. One is the longstanding absence of decent long relief. It’s insane that they don’t recognize and remedy this shortcoming. What’s the excuse for not having Aceves on the roster?
(The failing that a long reliever would address – i.e., Wang’s abominable starting pitching – isn’t deadly, at least not yet. Either Wang will settle down (though I doubt he’ll be better than a high-4.00-ERA, 12-win pitcher ever again), or Hughes or one of the other farmhands will make for a decent fifth starter.)
The other major issue is that our center fielder is a joke – at least from the waist up. He should be at most a pinch runner, and, if you want to be generous, a defensive replacement. Melky needs to take over “permanently.” I know it’s no longer the same ground stalked by the likes of DiMaggio, Mantle, and Williams. But not only can we do better than AOBG, a superior option’s already on our bench!
There is the proof that the walls are shorter. No player can jump up on the RF wall in the old stadium. Swisher was practically in the seats with the fans. Still, I think that would have been a HR in the old park as well.
Didn’t realize the jetstream went right through Yankee Stadium.. Coors Redux??
Big surprise….the board idiots are out in force today.
Is it too late to get Giambi and Abreu back? Forget Gardner, Melky, and Ransom. We need some power lefties back.
There are going to be tons of changes to the stadium in the offseason. Ticket prices and walls for sure.
Steinbrenners=$1.5Billion Fail
Why is the YES scoreboard always wrong??
It’s not the stadium its the Offense. We can barely get the ball out of the infield.
Choo hit that ball hard. I would have gone out in the old stadium.
Laura – Plug it in, change the world!
April 19th, 2009 at 1:30 pm
There is the proof that the walls are shorter. No player can jump up on the RF wall in the old stadium. Swisher was practically in the seats with the fans. Still, I think that would have been a HR in the old park as well.
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He planted his foot into the padding and scaled the wall. It’s been done before.
Pavano is a gamer. It’s a shame that we let him go and kept Wang.
I definitely agree that Melky should play over Gardner now. Gardner won the job in ST, but 3 weeks into the season, he has proven he just isn’t a major league player while Melky has been solid in every instance of play. Gardner has been mediocre defensively as well as awful offensively. Putting Melky in there rather than Gardner makes it 1 automatic out rather than 2, which will DEFINITELY help them score more runs, and think of what it’ll be like when A-Rod gets back:
Jeter
Damon
Teix
A-Rod
Swisher
Cano
Posada
Matsui
Melky
No holes, unlike that awful lineup Girardi continues to run out there with Ransom and Gardner hitting 8th and 9th and ruining any hope of a sustained, multi-run inning.
Carl is right. We can talk about how the pitching sucked yesterday and how so many runs were scored but what about us only scoring 4 runs on a day when the ball seemed to be carrying out.
Teixera could pop 50 bombs one of these years playing in this bandbox
Also, look at how differently they attack Texeira than someone like Jeter. They pitch scared to him, and go right after Jeter. That’s why we need A-Rod hitting behind him so badly. Teixeira will get pitches to hit and do more damage if he isn’t being pitched around and walked every at bat.
Pull the ball jesus.
Anyone else really tired of hearing Michael Kay laugh during 50% of the broadcast?
Ed – absolutely beautiful!
I’m still putting my opening day pictures up. Not the quality of gayle’s, though a lot more in quantity! But there are some pretty nice shots. Will let you know when the task is accomplished!
Can we get one fly ball to right field on offense?
Luigi:
But he wont. Because hes a bust.
im just tired of michael kay period
Hey Kevin, while I sincerely hope you are onto something about Pavano and agree with you that Wang deserves criticism, don’t you think joking about “deportation” is too out there?
i have faith in Tex, gotta keep the faith my friend
GB7 – Obviousely you think your the wise voice of this blog, but it seems you are in serious denial as to just how hitter friendly right field is..
LOL! Perfect game for Pavano?
Here is something to watch. I’m all for pitching inside to lefties, but we are constantly getting pitched away and having to hit the ball to the “big” part of the park, and we continue to pitch inside and let the lefties pull the ball. Choo’s ball was crushed, that would have gone out in te old stadium also.
Can we get a hit? Pwease?
Ive never wanted Arod back in the line up in my life.
i feel a cano homer here
Seems like everyday we are in a “Pitchers Duel” because of our O.
*as bad
Is it still a perfect game for pavano?
is Beckett on the mound?
You can just sense that this may be a very LOOOOOOOONG baseball season
Pavano has retired 6 yankees straight. We have some bad karma going on.
The fans at the Stadium might riot if Pavano pitches a no-hitter, or God forbid a perfect game.
I **still** want Choo on our team.
The fact that Pavano has a no hitter going into the 3rd is disgusting. I think Im going to take up smoking again. Atleast that calmed me down during these game.
“He planted his foot into the padding and scaled the wall. It’s been done before.”
Even when Winfield was manning RF, I never saw a player climb on top of the wall like that. That wall is shorter.
vb03,
Looks like the fans will have plenty of room and empty seats to throw if that happens.
I like Michael Kay. Just thought it needs to be said every once in awhile.
Well you have to think that the Indians are playing with some confidence. And why the hell not! That kind of thing builds upon itself.
Hate to say it, but Idle looks good so far.
The wall at the old stadium is about 4 feet higher than the wall at this stadium. Anyone that thinks its even remotely close is crazy. Also…the new right field goes straight down towards CF. The old right field used to bow outward
MN John,
Yep, because food and beer would be too expensive to throw, sadly.
Suddenly Pavano is the picture of youthful athleticism and effective pitching. How annoying is that?
This is like a sick joke. It’s almost brutal to watch. Now sounds like a good time to take up smoking to me too. Or at least have a stiff drink.
After the game I’m sure we’ll hear the same old tired 2008 excuses. Guys individually saying they were pressing too hard. Well I don’t want to hear it. Put up or shut up.
gutless team here comes Shutout for Pavano
I like Choo too, but I don’t see a way the Yanks get him. Cleveland likes him a lost. Also, he has that military service commitment coming up where he’s gonna lose 2+ years in the Korean military.
I agree CYF
“vb03 April 19th, 2009 at 1:39 pm
The fans at the Stadium might riot if Pavano pitches a no-hitter, or God forbid a perfect game.”
The Bronx is Burning
I love the way Johnny Damon wears his uniform. Very traditional and very classy.
Choo is good but i want DeRosa, very versatile and his bat plays well
I hate Michael Kay for the record. Blaming Pavano’s ineffectiveness on Mussina before was very weak. Kay needs to get over his sour grapes about Mussina already.
The Yankees will win today, that’s for the negative nancy’s out there.
free juan miranda,
I might have to open that bottle of jack for this game
27 up 27 down! Baseball immortality for Carl Pavano!
Look at all the empty seats… pathetic…
This offense is due for an explosion, I just hope its going to be against the Idle.
Nice play Tex!
what? our 1B plays defense?
wow what a stop.
Texx
AJ stay strong: this will not be an easy task by any means, since Carl has been known to pitch well at times and the Cleveland hitters may have been empowered by yesterday’s extended BP session.
TEX! Big G would never have gotten to that one!! Yeah!!
It’s great to have a real first baseman.
Tex with the pick! Nice to have a real defensive first baseman again.
I loved Giambi, but he was either taking that off the face, or giving it the old Olay right there.
yeah reminded me of donnie baseball
WOW what a play by tex!!!!!!
Nice play Tex!
thank g giambi is not playing first base.
Speaking of Giambi, he’s going to LOVE this jet streamed powered RF when he comes to town.
Wow Hideki, you look more lost than Jenna Jameson in church.
Idle really enjoying the automatic outs at the bottom of the order.
are u kidding me american idle??? no hits.??
man hes dealin
“Suddenly Pavano is the picture of youthful athleticism and effective pitching. How annoying is that?”
Someone with Pavano’s makeup works out best with teams that feel winning games may be a cool thing and that going to the playoffs is nirvana. Your best bet if you want to play for the Yankees is to infuse your veins with icewater. That definitely ain’t Pavano, who had to sit out games after his fiance ended their relationship.
I really want Pavano to pitch a perfect game. That would be so delicious.
The bottom third of the order is like one big automatic out. It’s like giving away a third of the game. Very disheartening.
Also frustrating to be making the transition to becoming a pitching first team in this kind of bandbox. I know Cashman has been trying to make the team more pitching centered since before they broke ground on the new park. So how could the Steinbrenners let such an extreme hitters park be built? Seems like a major disconnect between ownership and the GM.
Pathetic !!
Perfect through three…sickening.
trisha:
Wasn’t he dating Alyssa Milano? I can see why her breaking up with him would cause him to sit out games. We’re talking about a guy who sits out because he sat too fast in the dugout and ended up with bruised buttocks.
9 up, 9 down for the Rajah of Rehab.
Only the Yankees could make Pavano look like Beckett. For all the money this organization has spent, their offense is just sorry. Big hits don’t exist. Very sad state of affairs in the Bronx.
No fans, poor pitching, no hitting. We are going through the late 80′s all over again.
9 up and 9 down. Pavano will go into the the 4th with a no/no.
This is pathetic.
Carl Pavano has a NO-HITTER through 3 IP.
*just figured I’d jinx him now
Wow embrassing
And Juan Miranda and his red hot bat were sent down for these pitiful Ghost of Matsui at bats? Great.
I have very little confidence in the Yankee braintrust right now.
perfect game for the Idle so far. If that’s not a measuring stick of how much we are struggling, I don’t know what is.
We should’ve signed him.
Kidding, kidding.
Giambi must be drooling with the thought of hearing how the launching pad has been treating hitters.
The Oakland A’s visit comes next. Only a fool would bet against him hitting [at least] one HR in the 3 games.
I had a feeling this would happen.
A-Rod cannot come back quick enough.
$200M and this is the lineup? complete horror show.
Matsui just looks shot. It’s one thing for him not to be able to run, its a totally different thing to see him completely lost at the plate. Pitch selection doesn’t have much to do with knees.
Gardner need to bunt his way on next inning. Just get on base.
Second time through the lineup, Mr.Pavano gets hit hard….
The Yankees should be wearing paper bags over their heads in the dugout. This is humiliating.
‘And Mr. Wang said:
“Nothing is wrong. … I watched the video and everything is the same as last year.”’
*facepalm*
Way too early to pass judgement on the stadium. Need to see a variety of pitchers, weather conditions and umpires. Plus need to see how tearing down the old place affects the wind streak at the new place.
Before you skoff at the umpire angle, four days of tiny ass strike zones and a lot of hitters ahead on the count leads to hitters getting bigger swings. I’m not saying it’s THE factor, but it’s A factor…
Burnett must think he’s back in Toronto for all the run support he’s getting from this horrible offense.
At least Burnett looks like he showed up to try and stop the bleeding. Can’t say the same for the offense so far.
If he keeps pitching a gem, I’d say there would be a riot, but it looks like there’s not enough (actual) fans to cause much of a commotion.
Dear yankee hitters,
Score runs for aj please. Thx!
Dear yankee hitters,
Score runs for aj please. Thx!
PAVANO ???….Pavano is 1/3 the way to a perfect game against our Spankees…..WONDERFUL !
Brian in Boston:
Sadly, the real fans are in the bleachers and the 3rd/4th decks, too far to riot effectively.
Quick game. Really quick.
StawthatStirs
April 19th, 2009 at 1:37 pm
GB7 – Obviousely you think your the wise voice of this blog, but it seems you are in serious denial as to just how hitter friendly right field is..
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You don’t know what you’re talking about. where did I say thatright field wasn’t hitter friendly.
As for my being “a wise voice of the blog”, I never claimed to be. I also don’t show that I’m an idiot, either.
Ron Darling just said Ransom has been great defensively all season. Don’t these people pay attention at all? I mean it is their job, right?
At least Michael Kay is sure to jinx Pavano, so he won’t throw a no-hitter.
Also, two things:
1. From what little we’ve seen from Burnett, it’s obvious that he isn’t afraid to throw inside and move hitters off the plate. I like that. I think he has that sort of edge where he won’t let the opposing team walk all over him or the team.
2. Big Papi looks awful right now. I’m watching the Sox game on Gameday and in his first AB he swung right through two 88 mph fastballs right down the plate. He’s batting .182 with 0 HR and 12 K’s in 12 games. With our luck, this means he’s due for a big series at Fenway this weekend.
I love AJ. Thank God we picked him up.
PAVANO IS PITCHING A NO HITTER.
Now let’s see what happens you no good Carl!
Oh come on.
just arriving, but if pavano no hits the yankees i am going to commit sepuku
when sheffield couldn’t do the job for detroit anymore they ate his contract and told him to leave. the yankees just hang on the the over the hill players….quote of the year
“Nothing is wrong. … I watched the video and everything is the same as last year.”’
detroit put willis on the dl for anxiety…wang is definitely not right with that comment….pitch him in boston he is alright
Well, I must say I was really looking forward to this season, but like last year, I’m having much more fun tracking the prospects on the farm versus watching the games. Burnett has been great today, to bad the Idle gets to face a lineup that has the 7-8-9-1 in the order that would be outperformed by all NL teams.
Re Carl: The amazing thing is that he somehow feels that he’s the aggrieved party. How exactly does that work? It’s not as though the Yankees challenged any of his DL stints or gave him a hard time about anything except when he concealed the accident. So why is it that Pavano feels the Yankees didn’t, as he put it, have his back? Subsitute blogmaster Kevin D: any expert insight into Pavano’s bizarro world reasoning?
Re Carl 2: Not good to hear he’s been perfect through 3 innings. Not good at all. Hope the Yankees lineup can be patient and bust up his little party, and that AJ can continue to be AJ.
Darling obviously didn’t do his research
And Good Morning to you GB7…..You’re the best…
Game over
Another home run for Cleveland
Oops.
Oh boy…3-0.
Garko goes deep, and the Idle has all the runs he will need, it seems like.
ML record has been set for the first 4 games of any ballpark.
Those two home runs had nothing to do with the park. Those were mistakes hit hard.
goodnight fellas. This does not look good.
Nice to see the boys respond so well to yesterday…ugh!
Im going to pitch a NO NO NO NO hahaha.
NOT!
So how many homeruns is that in 3 games. Well put up a wall now!
that Garko hr was hit well
Man, this is really rough.
I HATE THESE HOMERUNS!
Funny thing is, we should be in line to be swept this series.
Like I’ve been saying, this is all on the OFFENSE.
Feeling like the game is over down 3 runs at home in the 4th inning is because our OFFENSE IS TERRIBLE.
Don’t go on and on about how they score 5 runs a game, because this offense is not intimidating, and they don’t have the ability to score in bunches. They score 5 but it’s usually with a little luck or a few errors.
i find myself holding my breath everytime a ball is hit to right, seems like 75% of the time it goes out
YANKEES NEED TO BUILD A MONSTER
YANKEES NEED TO BUILD A MONSTER
This team at home is like a car crash. You almost don’t want to watch but you can’t help it.
Gut check right here for the Spankees. Lose this game against Carl Pavano, with AJ on the mound, and they continue the streak of terrible Aprils …..what a bunch of Nancy Girls !
PAT M
April 19th, 2009 at 2:04 pm
And Good Morning to you GB7…..You’re the best…
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Morning, PAT M…how’s the weather on the left coast? sadly, the idiots are clogging the boards again, so not much in the way of meaningful conversation happening, today. Maybe when their mommies put them down for their naps.
This is so classic. I love this team.
Offense needs to step up now. A.J. has been picking up this team throughout the early part of the year, they need to return the favor.
All we can ask is that AJ shut the Tribe down for a few more innings and keep the team in the game. He doesn’t have his best stuff or control, but that’s going to happen to any pitcher….
Let’s see if GGBG’s guts and grit can pull off at least a single off the Idle
You can’t get shut down so long into a game and expect to win while the other team piles on insurance runs. They are giving up an entire inning every 3 innings at the plate with Matsui, Ransom, and Molina. Think about that.
THEY GIVE AWAY ONE THIRD OF THEIR AT BATS EVERY TIME THROUGH THE LINEUP.
Hard enough to score with the guys in the lineup as it is, but with so few chances to even drive in a run with who will be coming up in those spots, it’s no wonder they are struggling.
something didnt click with the indians, yea you bums, they werent facign the yank4ees. where they actually care.
RS
April 19th, 2009 at 2:07 pm
I HATE THESE HOMERUNS!
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especially against us.. urgghhhhhhh.
Strike Three! A no hitter ! A perfect game for Carl Pavano!
Free Juan Miranda
April 19th, 2009 at 1:54 pm
And Juan Miranda and his red hot bat were sent down for these pitiful Ghost of Matsui at bats? Great.
I have very little confidence in the Yankee braintrust right now.
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Poor Matsui. Miranda will be back up soon.
this bum brett gardner getting under the ball rather trying to hit it ont he ground.
This team sucks. This monstrocity they’ve built sucks. Pavano is going to pitch a perfect game. Shoot me.
This offense is a joke. They can barely hit the ball out of the infield. Why can’t we take advantage of the ball flying? Because we have hitters with no power all up and down our lineup.
Past years we have had a bad April and people said stop panicking. We sat through bad series after bad series and people kept saying don’t just ship. Stay and believe.
Well, the Yankees havent given us any reason to think any differently so we will have our opinions on the pathetic-ness that are the Yankees right now.
Same as every other year. No energy. Just seem listless and complacent to the whole thing.
Remember at the end, it usually comes down to a game or two on who gets in the playoffs. All games are important to win.
GreenBeret7
April 19th, 2009 at 2:00 pm
StawthatStirs
April 19th, 2009 at 1:37 pm
GB7 – Obviousely you think your the wise voice of this blog, but it seems you are in serious denial as to just how hitter friendly right field is..
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You don’t know what you’re talking about. where did I say thatright field wasn’t hitter friendly.
As for my being “a wise voice of the blog”, I never claimed to be. I also don’t show that I’m an idiot, either.
Just wise enough to assess that a good portion on the board today is full of idiots? Oh, ok…
When was the last time the Yankees put up a big inning? It seems like we haven’t had real good rallies since 2007.
GIRARDI needs to go and Gardner is horrible. Look at the stats and hes done nothing. Melky has 3 less runs in 24 fewer ABs. Total bases he has 2 fewer and hes not to far behind in all catergories despite all those fewer ABs. Girardi loves him so much he Damon batting 3rd ru kidding me. Fire Girardi and show the players that changes will be made and put Pena there or get Buck Showalter. “The BOSS” wouldve def fired him by now if he was 100%.
funny how now everyone wants arod back but when he strikesout with the basesloaded you guys will be saying where is ransom
funny how now everyone wants arod back but when he strikesout with the basesloaded you guys will be saying where is ransom
GGBG is becoming an automatic out.
no no hitter!
Thank you Jeter.
Whew!
this is just sad…and why o why is gardner batting first??
and he couldnt get to third, to put us in position to get a run with an out.
No-no gone. Thank God for the Captain.
Thanks Derek.
Thank you Derek Jeter….hopefully that wakes up the offense
I’m shocked Jeter’s double didn’t get up and carry over the wall.
Now you can kiss my sweet butt, Pavano!
Thanks for the help Michael Kay.
Thank you Derek
CAPTAIN CLUTCH DID IT AGAIN.
no no gone
3-0 and pavano is pitching a no hitter.
At what point, does panic go away and reality set in that this is not a very good team right now. For all the buying, very little production.
Honestly, at this point, I can’t believe I’m saying it…but Melky >> Gardner.
NOOOO!!! My perfect game!
Time to take it back, boys.
The stadium is not only smaller, but it plays smaller. Have you ever seen the center fielder have the ability to even get close to a ball in the gap like that at the old Yankee Stadium? The field is really much smaller.
I don’t even care about the “perfect game” being broken. The fact that there was a perfect game in the first place is sickening.
I’m a Yankee fan and the last time I have been so embarrassed was when we lost when we were up 3-0 on the suxs. I’m really concerned about this offense and this ban box we call Yankee stadium. Yankees make everyone look like Cy young, what starting pitcher have we hit really hard this year?
The more I think about Pavano, the more incredible it is. I don’t doubt that he had injuries, but he walked away with a big bag of bank for very little work. And he thinks he’s right.
And now our awesome Captain at a minimum saves the team and the fans the indignity of a no-hitter at the hands of the Idle.
I can’t figure out whether I hate the new stadium or just the way we’ve played in it…
look, a batter is on and 0-2 and somebody is out there to talk to the pithcer, but not dave eialnd after aj burnett loses a nohitter against the ray.s
they need to drive this run in now
Nice job Damon….not!
At least we arent the Nationals.
we can go out and upgrade our team via trade with teams that want to dump payroll in this economy or use our own minor leaguers, but we refuse to. i love hideki, but he’s pretty much down due to his knees, at least this year.
We might as well be the Nationals.
Jeter got a double who cares…the yankees can’t score unless they hit a homerun this offense is beyond pathetic with RISP right now…
every time they show one of the yankee players stats, it seems as though everyone’s BA is 198. uuurrgggggghhh!!!!
every time they show one of the yankee players stats, it seems as though everyone’s BA is 198. uuurrgggggghhh!!!!
you know GGBG is terrible if we are begging for the melk man
Teixeira- 0-4 with RISP this year
Would be nice to change that
yay tex
Tex comes through. 2 out RBI hits are always a nice lift.
Thanks Mark!
after reading Kevin’s quotes above – I’m wondering if Wang can be put on the DL with a “bad case of denial”
Alright…now can we see that Yanks build on this?
2 out hit with a RISP? WTF?
Thank you Tex
I detest the way the ball flys out of the new Stadium. Period.
Apologies to all for saying that Tex was not needed. Boy was he ever needed! I sure don’t mind being wrong that way.
Here’s the exact quote from the pregame from Girardi on Wang:
“We looked at his hands break, his leg kick where his head is and if it’s on line, the angle of his arm. We haven’t had a chance to discuss it with him yet. We had some healthy stuff that we saw and we understand that we need to make some adjustments. … Physically there are some things I think we need to correct that’s leaving him up in the zone. I just really believe no matter who you were, whether you won four Cy Youngs, it would be difficult to go through.”
And Mr. Wang said:
“Nothing is wrong. … I watched the video and everything is the same as last year.”
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Oy vey
swisher coming back down to earth….
russ in tampa
April 19th, 2009 at 2:18 pm
you know GGBG is terrible if we are begging for the melk man
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and how would any of you know if GGBG were terrible?
“2 out hit with a RISP? WTF?”
Wow, Swish owned by Idle twice. Yikes.
Nick is cooling off.
I hate Carl Pavano with a passion.
If your a starting pitcher that needs to get back on track face the yankees
I hope all those popups Arod used to hit with RISP will now be homeruns in this stadium.
Guys we will be fine lets not go crazy
I agree SA on the Wang quote….seems like he is in denial or something because something is clearly wrong.
“Nick is cooling off.”
Water seeks its own level. Nick’s is .260 or somewhere thereabouts.
That is why I feel as though the Nady injury is a big deal. Swisher is nor going to be fun watching all year. Strikeout galore.
players always become all stars again once they leave they yankees……keep it going AJ
AJ’s average velocity on Gameday is 94.9 mph
Just tuned in. How encouraging for Melky to play well and get benched.
big innign for aj
“When was the last time the Yankees put up a big inning? It seems like we haven’t had real good rallies since 2007.”
So….we haven’t had any since around the time Mattingly left.
Not a coincidence from where I sit. Kevin Long sucks. People are worried about Eiland but Long is the first one who needs to go.
i know its early but this team needs to add another bat, trotting out the likes of melky, gardner, ransom and pena simply isnt going to work, even after A-Rod comes back
bodhitassva,
are you ggbg’s brother?
Walks kill
well do your best AJ to keep us in the game its not your fault this offese is pathetic right now
AJ’s control hasn’t been great today. The worst part is these Indians hitters are trying to hit everything in the air, so it’ll be hard to get DP’s with runners on base.
true facts
April 19th, 2009 at 2:25 pm
Just tuned in. How encouraging for Melky to play well and get benched.
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It’s just Joe Girardi’s kangaroo court.
You know your going bad when you get all excited about 1 run through 4 innings against Pavano. What will be said in the post game? “We always knew Pavano was a good pitcher”. “He was on all day”. “He really hit his spots, and kept us off balance”. Which should be interpreted as, we suck balls right now and couldn’t hit a ball hard if we were playing slow pitch softball. This team is full of harry back Mary’s that are happy to sit around and cash there paychecks.
WTF is going on with our beloved Yankees?
bodhisattva
BECAUSE HE CAN’T HIT.WHAT WE SHOUD KEEP HIS AUTOMATIC OUT IN THE LINEUP.
true facts
Better yet, how encouraging for Miranda to get sent down and the Ghost of Matsui to be allowrd to continue dragging down our already struggling offense.
But why should I be surprised, these are the same guys who thumb their nose at the concept of having a long man in the pen.
reoksdiey
April 19th, 2009 at 2:27 pm
bodhitassva,
are you ggbg’s brother?
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nope. Melky’s husband. But good try.
free juan miranda,
ive said all along kevin long and eiland are both pigs. but you get these losers on here calling people ledge jumppers
Have to admit that scared me a bit…
omg it didnt go out!!!!!!
Geez, the ball really flies out there in right center.
Who else felt their heart drop at that fly ball?
here is what today boils down to:
Doesnt matter if they are 11-1 or 6-6
They were embarassed on national tv 22-4 yesterday
They are facing someone they all personally loathe
They are facing someone who isn’t a good pitcher
Its only the 5th inning but what I have seen so far leads me to believe that this team is gutless.
“This one is deep. Swisher/Damon/Gardner is still back. Still back!”
If I hear that one…more…time. -_-
the Yankees are going to fail against Oakland too. Too many pitchers they haven’t seen before. We all know how that goes. So if there’s any way they could find it within themselves to win this game today, that would really be stupendous.
but probably not.
“When was the last time the Yankees put up a big inning? It seems like we haven’t had real good rallies since 2007.”
They were putting up big innings in spring training
and im shocked that ball didn’t go out
Jolly Nick is 1-12 as of today.
where was that pitch.
russ in tampa
April 19th, 2009 at 2:27 pm
bodhisattva
BECAUSE HE CAN’T HIT.WHAT WE SHOUD KEEP HIS AUTOMATIC OUT IN THE LINEUP.
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Hey, take it easy. I am not deaf.
What I was going to say was, you think Melky is terrible, so, from my point of view, you can’t judge either of the.
Ump squeezing the plate. Loser.
what the hell that was a good pitch, outside corner belt high!!!
Mr. Burnett is getting squeezed.
You can see the Indians righty hitters making a concerted effort to lift the ball to right field. Their swings are late almost on purpose so they can drive the ball the other way.
of them.
Can an accident happen that would render this Stadium unusable? Even THAT fly looked like it had a chance. This is ridiculous.
Why do I hate Michael Kay more than usual this season?
the joe girardi show, count me in. this loser is more interested in sitting down with that rat michael kay but not actaully making our team better.
because doris, michael kay is a rat and a weasel who sits on ESPN every weekday bashing the yankees.
Can the crowd be any quieter with two strikes??
Pettitte’s style of pitching is better suited for this kind of team…slash and mash at fastballs.
Doris from Rego Park
Because he’s an even bigger dbag than usual this season. I’ve noticed that too.
Same old Girardi.. Things have to be done his way.. The wrong way.
It’s pretty clear to most people including Wang that he has to pitch his way out of it. He’s not hurt and it’s all mental. Sitting on the bench and thinking about his last start an extra 5 days isn’t going to help.
What has to happen.. what probably will happen eventually.. They’re going to have to fake an injury and send him down to the minors to work though this. You can’t keep sending him out there and risking ball games.
michael kay thinks he is better than everyone, when in actuality, he’s inhuman.
Bottom of the order coming up…again.
They need to sit Wang…I don’t care what he says he is hurting this team and for the greater good of this team he needs to sit until Joe and co. are 100% sure he is better. Call up Hughes and Malacon, and lets see what these kids can do. Also, does anybody else miss A-Rods bat right about now?
come on give AJ some runs the man deserves it, hes been our ace in the early going
It feels so good to see ground balls being hit for once. In yesterday’s game you could probably count on one hand the number of groundball outs.
Molina’s been boxing a lot of pitches. He’s poor offense isn’t offset by his defense.
I miss Torre!
and i hate to insult the yankees, but were the idiots who employ michael kay and allow him to insult us one spn radio.,
Did anyone mention that the defense has been great today? Ransom’s defense has been particularly good.
So I wake up and we’re losing to Pavano, I think I’m done with this team for awhile.
I honestly dont care if the yanks lose the next 30 games in a row. Losing to this swine Pavano after losing 22-4 on national tv is as unacceptable as it gets, IMO. I dont know what else to say. Thank god the NY Rangers are showing some guts
Well AJ is doing his best to keep us in this game. A-rod please please please get back soon. And who thinks the Milk Man should be back in center? or at least have a platoon situation with GGBG and the Milk man?
Can this offense wake up like now?!?!?
Matsui’s been swinging horribly.
wow just wow
This is pathetic.
Hmm, a 1-2-3 inning. SHOCKER!!!
Mark-Cant Touch This
April 19th, 2009 at 2:37 pm
Well AJ is doing his best to keep us in this game. A-rod please please please get back soon. And who thinks the Milk Man should be back in center? or at least have a platoon situation with GGBG and the Milk man?
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uncle.
What a terrible slump for Matsui. He’s just chasing everything.
“I seriously doubt Wang makes the start at Fenway next week”
Of course not but still having him up here to think about his last start accomplishes nothing.
This is what I mean by the fact that we give away multiple innings at the plate with automatic outs. It’s very hard to score when the opposing pitcher gets so many free innings in a row.
bodhisattva
my point really was melky has more pop and fields and throws better.brett will change a game if he gets on base,but he doesn’t.i”d play melky
I’m flinching at every crack of the bat.
Could this be grounds for a lawsuit against the Yankees?
Post Traumatic Stress Disorder except the bombs in this case are opposing team dingers?
holy stink
I cant even watch this bottom of the order anymore.
Matsui in particular infuriates me because they have a better option in AAA that theyre not using.
ransom really is useless
Nothing new for Yankee fans. Still wishing he were out of the game already.
8 pitches=three outs.
The bottom of the lineup is flat-out terrible. An 8 pitch inning for the Idle is a joke.
Losing 3 of 4 to the Indians including a game against Carl DL Pavano. I didn’t think I would be on the ledge this early but I am and I stand by my 80 some odd win prediction, this team is putrid.
time to get going.
i would be way more embarrassing to be shut down by pavano then giving up the 22 runs yesterday.
All of a sudden Carl Pavano looks like Greg Maddux.
Posada should be DHing, not Matsui
omg take some pitches
Yeah i am taking this week off of yankees. They are just downright horrible
8 pitch inning for pavano there… where are all the “kevin long is the messiah” posters?
8 pitches 1-2-3. Pathetic.
This is why we not only need A-Rod, but you CANNOT have a lineup like Matsui, Ransom, Molina, Gardner. Jeez, that’s disgraceful. 4 automatic outs in a row, how do you expect to ever score?
Those were three of the most miserable ABs I’ve seen since…well…yesterday. This team is going to lose a series to a team that was 2-7 coming in, one of those games to Carl effing Pavano. It really doesn’t get lower than that. Not by a long shot.
Why isn’t Ramiro Pena getting more time at 3B?
Not a coincidence from where I sit. Kevin Long sucks. People are worried about Eiland but Long is the first one who needs to go.
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People who are calling for Kevin Long’s head clearly need to find another hobby.
They’ve scored at least 4 runs in every game but one.
Teixeira is just now starting to hit given his historical slow starts in April and they don’t even have their best player in A-Rod yet.
Simply ridiculous.
Matsui is shot those knees are killing him, and its obvious.
ransom is looking bad at the plate
You think the morons in the NY papers are still going to write about how the Yanks are better off without A-Rod? I don’t think so.
WTF! Did you guys see that Beckett won’t miss a turn after a reduction to 5 games?
What a joke. MLB is run by a bunch of clowns. If I were an Angels fan, I’d be livid. Absolutely livid.
NOW Pavano looks like the guy they were supposed to get when they signed him. Too bad he’s actually not on the team now.
What we’re seeing from Matsui isn’t a slump. It’s the last gasps of air being choked from his fast dying career.
Just about everything Pavano throws is down and away…
Squeezed again on that 1-1 pitch to the donkey.
Ok, so I’m watching the game on gamecast, and it seems pretty obvious that Pavano’s gameplan is to just keep everthing away. Now, I’m inclined to think that Pavano is just not that good, so why the %#$^ haven’t the Yankee hitters made any adjustments? Is it really that hard for a major leaguer to hit an 88 mph fastball on the outer third the other way?
This is harder to watch than yesterday’s embarrassment of a lifetime.
Only the Yankees would let an 0-2 pitcher with a zipcode for an ERA shut them down at home. Nevermind that’s it Carl Pavano.
I’m a level headed fan. Going .500 in April isn’t that bad. But I’m also a fan, and losing to Pavano like this really hurts. It disgusts me. You can say what you want about it being one game. Whatever. At some point, you realize it’s the passion that makes baseball fun. And not beating up on Pavano, in fact, going down pretty much listlessly, hurts me as a fan. It sucks, it’s not something I want to watch, or enjoy watching, or am interested in excusing. Sometimes it’s not about the stats, and this is one of those times. This is a game we win. That’s all there is to it. We beat Pavano. Instead, this is a game where Pavano shows us what we didn’t get for FOUR years. It’s just disgusting.
russ in tampa,
Considering that Melky has been playing well of late…I don’t understand why he’s not in there today…
He’s throwing 50 percent changeups and the Yanks can’t hit a damn thing. It’s another tiny strike zone, but Ms. Pavano just lobs em up there and giggles while this spring training caliber lineup flails away.
Matsui should retire rather than humiliate himself like this. Ransom is a marginal AAA player and I’ve been saying that all along. Swisher is a good player if he starts 50-60 ppercent of the time, but as an every day player he gets exposed. Without Nady they need to go looking for a bat even with Alex back.
Ramiro is no better at the plate. Should have just brought up Angel Berroa
The bottom of the line up is ugly as ugly can be. well at least the soxs and the rays are not looking so hot themselves lets see if we can holdout till A-rod come back to see if the offense gets better, because I don’t see this offense improving in the near future
. And with Oakland coming up and there good pitching and with Boston pitching hold your breath. I can see Lester eating this lineup alive 
Letting Pavano pitch a complete game would complete what’s been a humiliating series. The team has got to find a way to scratch together a couple of runs.
You’re right, why is every hitter trying to pull Pavano and just grounding out weakly? Most likely the fact that Girardi put FOUR TERRIBLE HITTERS IN A ROW?
Burnett deserves much better than a loss here.
I personally want the Yankees to beat beckett, forget everything.
What we’re seeing from Matsui isn’t a slump. It’s the last gasps of air being choked from his fast dying career.
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Brilliant stuff from the same guy who says Kevin Long needs to be fired after 12 games with no A-Rod and Teixiera just starting to come out of his funk.
Bottom of the line up
Hitdeki = 167.
Ransom = 132.
Molina= 167.
GGBG =233 (lead off)
The empty seats at the stadium likely means no money will be spent filling any holes on the team. I expect they will look within for another bat and backup infielder.I don’t see anyone but the likes of Duncan and Berroa.
This lineup is very shallow. With Nady gone and Matsui crippled, and AROD out runs are very unlikely in the bottom half of the line-up.
girardi and cashman don’t have enough guts to dl matsui….they stubbornly stick with ransom..they cannot make the right decisions…joe should be back in the booth announcing the games….for these people who seem to be so cool and act like everyone else is an idiot for complaining..losses in april count in september..this team is throwing games away by the inaction of management
this game is shameful. carl pavano owns yankee hitters.
I feel for Burnett right now. He is getting squeezed and this joke of a Yankee offense really has his back up against a wall.
AJ needs a DP so he can go another inning…
Wang needs to look at Burnett. His control is clearly not where he needs to be and yet he’s 2 outs away from a quality start.
m
April 19th, 2009 at 2:42 pm
WTF! Did you guys see that Beckett won’t miss a turn after a reduction to 5 games?
What a joke. MLB is run by a bunch of clowns. If I were an Angels fan, I’d be livid. Absolutely livid.
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Sadly, you knew that would be the result once they appealed, and you knew they’d appeal. Business as usual.
i dont understand why matsui isnt on the DL, if he isnt available to play the OF til June what makes the yankees think hes healthy enough to be a productive hitter right now
PAT M
April 19th, 2009 at 2:42 pm
Just about everything Pavano throws is down and away…
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Yep, he’s done what he was supposed to do for NYY. Burnett’s been hanging tough despite of not having his best stuff today. It’s imoressive to shut down Cleveland on 3 hits without control. He’s made two mistakes and it’s cost him.
Excellent play by Cano to start the DP.
Robby is damn good…
Leather from Cano! At least the defense showed up today.
Wow. You really have to be impressed with what we’re seeing out of Cano this year so far.
Time to lite this bum up….
Great play by Cano & Tex.
Anyone else surprised that Darling was saying glowing things about Sheffield on his Mets? Nobody said glowing things about Sheffield when he was with the Yankees or the Tigers or the…how many teams has the man played on?
Nice play by Cano.
I realize it’s frustrating for fans, but to call for anyone to be fired in April (Girardi, Eiland, Long) is just spitting in the wind.
It ain’t gonna happen.
They need to knock out the Idle now. It’s a total embarrassment if he gets to the 7th inning with only 1 ER.
m -
i think that players don’t get paid while under suspension so 5 /162 X $10 million = 308,641.98
… so beckett didn’t get a totally free ride.
Nice play, Cano!!
Yankee fans can’t complain about AJ – even without his best stuff or control, he’s battled and given them 6 solid innings. More often than not, he’s going to have great stuff, but good pitchers bend and don’t break without their great stuff…….and AJ is doing that. It’s very encouraging.
Let’s give this man some offense fellas! He’s pitching his ass off out there. God damn it.
Why is Brett Gardner still playing CF?
http://firejoegirardi.com/
Bob Mac,
Runs ain’t exactly spilling over in the top of or middle of the order either.
Molina with a surprising lead-off single.
“Not a coincidence from where I sit. Kevin Long sucks. People are worried about Eiland but Long is the first one who needs to go.
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People who are calling for Kevin Long’s head clearly need to find another hobby.
They’ve scored at least 4 runs in every game but one”
You didnt copy and paste the point I was replying to, but it stands as a good one. When Mattingly was the hitting coach the Yankees used to have big rallies. Now they don’t. They’ve been abysmal in RISP situations since mid 2007. Just in the nick of time to unlearn everything Mattingly taught them and learn the habits Long taught them.
None of us have any way of knowing exactly what Long is telling the hitters. But they haven’t had good results and have regressed under him. At the very least it’s a big coincidence isnt it? Pointing that out is not ridiculous. Long’s had over a year now and I want to see more success from his reign. Where’s the success so far?
Molina still has some gasp in that bat. Let’s get going guys.
Very good….now Gardner do something besides hitting into a DP
This is the inning!
Let’s Go Yanks!
rally time against Pavano and the mediocre pen.
Melancon in for Scranton in the 7th inning.
4-2, Scranton
A-Rod come back and dont ever leave us again do what you want. As long as you put up .300 BA 30HR and 115RBI I will always love you lol
Now, Gardner GIDP.
Watch.
russ in tampa
April 19th, 2009 at 2:40 pm
bodhisattva
my point really was melky has more pop and fields and throws better.brett will change a game if he gets on base,but he doesn’t.i”d play melky
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My dear fellow, you are 100 percent correct. Melky Cabrera is the better player, has been the better player, and will be the better player. He is also a year younger.
But there’s nothing you or I can do about this. We have to root for this kid to do well. And so we shall.
Shouldn’t Gardner be bunting here?
Lay off the outside changeup and he’s bound to make a mistake. Come on Gardner.
How about that.
Nevermind. Haha.
Gardner singles to left.
I’ll gladly eat crow for that one.
See, take it the other way. Good work.
Let’s go Captain.
What I don’t like about Gardner is his approach. He takes strike 1 every single time. The percentage of getting a hit goes down significantly after strike 1 and being down in the count. But once he gets his pitch, and actually swings at it, he can make things happen.
I hope Girardi rips the lineup after the game. Lee and Carmona were terrible there 1st 2 starts. Pavano is Pavano and a disgrace. I said it yesterday and I will say it again I have no idea why Girardi played Ransom and Gardner over Melky and Pena. Melky has been swinging the bat really well and Ransom well Ransom is worse then the pitcher hitting. They absolutely stink. To get totally shut down by Pavano is as pathetic as it can get.
I hope the Yanks love the empty seats, and the wealthy people having business meeting at the stadium and could care less about the game. It sounds like a library out there.
“They were putting up big innings in spring training.”
Yeah, and all those AAA players who helped score those runs are now playing undefeated in Scranton.
No DP please captain
randy l,
It’s not about the money. It’s the principle.
Everyone that follows baseball knows that Josh was wrong not once, not twice, but three times that night in Anaheim.
They need to suspend them 6 games with the stipulation that one start is missed.
this is where pavano blows up
“Can’t be sen’t to the minors. Would sending him to Tampa without the coaches be beneficial? I don’t Wang’s relationship with Elias, but if he is healthy short of DFAing him, what are the options”
He hasn’t been responding well to these coaches.. this has been going since spring training and they’re clearly on different pages.
How sweet would a 3 run shot off Pavano right now be?
Molina and Gardner = automatic outs, I thought?
Come on Jeter let us get some runs.
Of course he just did that…
Horrible DP
come on jeter.
JETE COMES UP BIG!
DP for Jeter, is anybody shocked?
“No DP please captain”
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Well Mr. DP thank you…
Captain fails that time.
You have got to be kidding me….a double play.
A perfect Jeterian DP….Like anyone expected anything else. As soon as he came up I said DP waiting to happen…
That stings even worse because it’s Carl Pavano.
Captain DP, at it again. God damn it.
DAMMIT… DP DEREK.
Bah. Why wasn’t Jeter bunting to get the two men over?
If A-Rod did that, the entire crowd would be lighting the stands on fire and booing him like crazy.
As much as I like men on base, Molina getting on killed us there. Absolutely killed us. Jeter is the king of GIDP, and taking the ability to steal away from Gardner just set that up perfectly for Cleveland.
HOME RUN TEX PLEEEAAASSSEEEE
This is why Jeter should not be at the top of a Yankees lineup. That was a 2-1 count, you HAVE TO PUNISH THE PITCHER. If he can’t keep the ball off the ground, then why isn’t he bunting?
A perfect illustration of the Yankees’ offensive futility under Kevin Long.
When did Jeter start grounding into record numbers of DPs again. Oh yeah, when Long replaced Mattingly.
I blame the players as well as the hitting coach. But the Yankees can’t fire Jeter.
Come on Tex you can do it
Off the calf, at least it wsn’t the knee.
Come on Tex! How bout a patented New Yankee Stadium 280 foot popup to right that catches the jet stream for a three run homer!
MARK PLEASE…
Checking back in. How funny, 3-1 Indians.
This team of overpaid gutless babies. Can’t believe the 2009 Cy Young winner is in a pitching dual with Carl Pavano. Yankee fans should boo every thing, every game, every player. this is embarrassing.
“Bah. Why wasn’t Jeter bunting to get the two men over?”
They were playing in, expecting a bunt.
Vince, Jeter wasn’t bunting because the lead runner was Jose Molina, who might as well not have legs for as fast as he runs.
Is anyone even surprised Jeter grounds into the DP there? And wouldn’t it have been better for him to sac bunt the runners over?
Come on Tex.
We need some 2 out hits here. You absolutely cannot waste the rare instance Molina and Gardner get on base back to back.
You can’t bunt to put Molina at 3rd. Then You have to hit a warning track fly ball to score him on a sac fly.
Not a strike!
WTF was that strike?
gameday says that last pitch was OUTSIDE
Man you cant take that.
Looking for something else, that slider was hanging.
Holy effin hanger. SWING THE EFFIN BAT
4-2 Scranton, 1 out in the 7th and Melancon now pitching. Double play to end the inning.
Romine and Montero are both 2-3 with a double in scoreless game in Tampa.
In Charleston, Angelini is 2-2.
Ryan Pope has been good again for Trenton and Marcos Vechionacci has a homer.
A single here would work wonders.
SWISH!!!
Tex wishes he could have that 2-1 pitch back.
He should have creamed that one.
Come on Swisher! I will gladly take a walk here.
C’mon, Nick. You’ve had a bunch of less-than-stellar ABs lately. Time to get off the snide here.
Time to punch Pavano’s ticket, right now !!!!!
ughhh pavano owns swisher today
None of us have any way of knowing exactly what Long is telling the hitters. But they haven’t had good results and have regressed under him. At the very least it’s a big coincidence isnt it? Pointing that out is not ridiculous. Long’s had over a year now and I want to see more success from his reign. Where’s the success so far?
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So how is everything Kevin Long’s fault?
Have you thought about perhaps the position players are declining with age and have slowed down?
Posada (38), Matsui (35), Jeter (35), Damon (36), and even A-Rod are all 34+ years of age.
They are not a young team of everyday players.
Secondly, it was Kevin Long who A-Rod credits for his 2007 season because of the tweaks he made with his swing.
Long has also helped turn Robbie Cano around and spent much of the offseason in the D.R. to work with him.
You don’t grasp the big picture. You watch the game like it’s the NFL and every loss is 1/16th of the season.
I hope that decision bites them in the you know what
Shades of Grady LIttle.
Come on Swish. You’ve been embarrassed enough by Pavano today.
So its up to swish…maybe he can work out the rare RBI walk
Jeter should bunt everytime he comes up with men on base. Otherwise it is an automatic DP. But ofcourse it is ok because it is the great Jeter who can’t do anything wrong.
Please Nick…
Maybe Girardi should move Cano up in the order. Can anyone else sense a great play coming up for Cleveland or a K by Swisher?
wheres the crowd!!! come on make some noise
A-Rod would have 2 homers to right field off of the Raja. The Yankees need to get over this whole not hitting with RISP thing of the last 2 years.
Great, Johnny needs a fastball in the calf like he needs another hole in his head.
They keep taking that hanging slider. Holy crap.
Lets not hit hanging breaking balls.
Wow Swisher looks lost against Idle.
I’m gonna go to the bathroom right now.
I’ll relieve myself…probably cry a little.
“Vince, Jeter wasn’t bunting because the lead runner was Jose Molina, who might as well not have legs for as fast as he runs.”
True, didn’t realize that.
Oh boy, Swish is not looking good right now…
Pavano hangs yet another curveball. That was his pitch..
Please Swisher.
Please.
Not scoring here would suck the life out of the stadium. Now might be the best chance to take hold of this game.
Man the place sounds dead
Well…that was pretty much what I expected. Screw it all.
Hanging breaking balls == swing the effin bat
yup, i’ll be crying
Left the bases loaded….uggggghhhhhh!
I.
Hate.
Carl.
Pavano.
And thats the game.
Swisher sucks !!!
Sure, Nick Swisher, who hit 35 homers and scored 106 run and drove in 95 with a weak A’s team 3 years ago, can’t play everyday and is the problem.
Pavano is just karma. It happens. No big deal.
When A-Rod comes back, Texeira heats up, maybe they bring up Melancon, things will start to click.
Swisher fails.
This is utterly embarrassing.
Leaving them loaded again.
Unbelievable.
Just mind boggling.
Well it looks like we are still allergic to hitting with runners in scoring position
Why does it feel like every team except the Yankees can smack the ball around with 2 outs?
Pavano is making a fool of the Yankees for the second time this century.
typical
At least he has a great attitude and is great in the clubhouse.
Johnny Damon hitting third? Interesting choice..
http://firejoegirardi.com/
Memo to team: Please swing at hanging breaking balls. Thanks.
Swish was bound to cool off – what can you do?
Holy crap Nick…
Okay, down 2 runs is certainly doable. Let’s hope we get to their relief – unless they’re leaving in the indefatigable Carl…
swisher has cooled off….
Because every teams except the Yankees DOES smack the ball around with 2 outs.
“You don’t grasp the big picture. You watch the game like it’s the NFL and every loss is 1/16th of the season.”
Based on a couple of internet posts, you can tell how I watch the game and what I do and dont grasp. OK.
This internet elitism is a bit much for me.
And so is this team’s nonexistent offense.
Hope Hank and Hal are proud of their new ballpark.. looks great on tv… when do you think they’ll have the fans show up?
WHAT A JOKE.
This team is pathetic, embarrassing, there are no words polite enough to describe this team right now. THIS IS CARL PAVANO.
And once again, the “captain” Derek Jeter killed the rally with a DP. YOU CANNOT CONTINUE TO HAVE ONLY TWO OUT RALLIES AND EXPECT TO SCORE RUNS!
Pavano 6 IP 1 ER 4 H, making a fool out of the Yankees in their own house, AFTER robbing them of $40M.
That’s like a burglar making off with jewelry, and then welcoming him back into your house and letting him do whatever he wants to your wife.
And now the curse of Yankees hitters sucking it over taking Swish. Nick, ask for a trade now before this team and its bad karma sucks all the fun and talent from you and turns you into … well a Yankee.
run fast little grasshopper.
Thank goodness for AJ, no matter what happens. If it wasn’t for him half of our bullpen would be on the dl.
Jeter should have bunted! no excuse! bunt the ball to third make Cabrera field it and you won’t have to worry about molina’s speed. this is a joke! never thought i’d say this but HURRY AROD!!! PLEASE!!!
When did Jeter start grounding into record numbers of DPs again. Oh yeah, when Long replaced Mattingly.
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Yeah, you definitely need to find another hobby.
It’s Kevin Long’s fault that Jeter doesn’t have the power he once had and he’s more of a singles hitter and grounds into more DPs when he did when he was 25.
But that’s because Kevin Long is the hitting coach. Not because Jeter is declining with age.
This game has shades of what Kenny Rogers did to us a few years back when we were playing Detroit in the ALDS in my opinion. Just a thought.
Jeter gdp killed that inning.
This is a nightmare….bases loaded against the Idle, and we don’t score a run. Does it get any worse?
I hate walks
The lone bright spot in this game is Burnett battling through six. He deserves a much better fate.
It seems like our starters are on a streak of walking 5 batters a game. Except for Wang, because he didn’t last long enough to do so.
This is the bronx bombers!!! A meatball right down the middle and he takes it then swings at garbage. Tex had a hanger also. The lineup is an absolute disaster. I feel bad for Burnett. Pitches soo well and will have nothing to show for it. Except a loss and a stadium homerun.
Swish going for the Golden Sombrero today
Yeah, cause Jeter hasn’t had any game winning hits this year and Swisher hasn’t come up huge before this. Getting upset because a hitter goes into a slump?
The Yankees can’t possibly be surprised that people aren’t willing to pay $3K for a baseball game. Even if the economy hadn’t gone in the crapper, I bet those seats would have still been empty. Maybe not as many of them as there are today, but there would have been some empty seats. I love the Yankees more than most and the only way I would have plunked down three grand for a ticket was if I had hit the Lottery.
Tampa Yanks lost 3-1. High points were Ryan Zinks 5 shutout innings, Romine’s 2-3 and Montero’s 3-4 with a double and a homer.
“making a fool out of the Yankees in their own house”
This isnt the Yankees house. Their house is across the street and deserted. This is a mall with a baseball field. And so far its pretty faceless and anonymous like all retail. Doesn’t feel like it belongs to the Yankees at all.
Everything about this team is pathetic right now, and all signs point to another rough patch. The game has changed and the Yankees will need a few rebuilding years to change with it. I don’t like writing it any more than you all liker thinking it. But thats how it seems to be.
this is far more embarrassing than yesterday’s game. Losing to Carl Pavano is just an absolute joke. This guy is throwing AAA stuff out there and they are swinging and missing like little leaguers. Just horrid. ABsolutely horrid.
I’m not sure that if you told me in February that the Yanks would open up the 1st series of the new stadium 1-3 and getting blown out in 2 of them and Pavano shutting them down to 1 run over 6 innings I would have beleived it. I’m not saying I agree with it, but Girardi will not be managing this team by the all star break.
Trisha said:
“indefatigable Pavano”
LOL
Unbelievable…seems like he’s been on the mound more in one game against us than he was in his entire career with us, doesn’t it?
Come on AJ
I’m basically very annoyed because:
#1: It’s the Idle, for Pete’s sake, not Johan Santana,
#2: They just got murdered yesterday, and it looks like they haven’t gotten off the mat yet,
#3: Burnett deserves better,
and #4: IT’S THE IDLE. THE RAJAH OF REHAB. ARGH.
/rant
Bottom line Derek needed to be bunting with 2 on no outs. I knew he would GIDP trying to shoot the damn ball. Girardi needs to do things by the book Jeter isnt bulletproof and he should not be above bunting.
Burnett’s control is way, way off today. It’s miraculous that he’s still pitching in the 7th inning.
Sounds like a funeral on TV. I hope its louder in person.
I’ll be there twice for the Angels series at the end of the month, so I’ll judge for myself. It just seems WAY too quiet.
Christ, that picth by Burnett was 8 feet outside.
Okay if the Indians blow this game open yankees will magically figure out a way to score enough to lose
This is what happens when you put out your 5th string lineup in the deciding game of the series. Who cares if it’s Pavano? You can’t run out a lineup with Matsui, Ransom, Molina, and Gardner all in a row and expect to score runs! When will Girardi get this? Melky is one of our hotter hitters, why is Gardner in there? Pena is playing well, much better than Ransom, and hitting the ball hard. Why is Gardner still in there?
This is April, your players don’t need 2-3 days a week off!
Burnett should of been out of the game after the walk. But because of the great Wang the other pitchers need to over pitch.
Can we trade for Carl Pavano?
AJ falling apart here. He’s probably frustrated that he’ll have to win the game all by himself.
Take him out his tired.
does anyone know where i can find an audio of swisher reading the lineup yesterday?
does anyone know where i can find an audio of swisher reading the lineup yesterday?
“It’s the Idle, for Pete’s sake, not Johan Santana”
Leave Pete out of it… he has the day off, luckily.
They need to take him out now. His control is shot. Credit to him for battling through a tough day, but they need to go to the pen NOW.
Watch Joe bring in Veras just to be sure.
Hes**
It’s not just the location of the empty seats.
It’s the SIZE. Those seats are obscene.
This is baseball.. not a day at the spa.
Sit on a regular seat just like everyone else.
AJ’s running out of gas. If we had a decent pen, he’d already be out of the game….real pity for AJ
“Yeah, you definitely need to find another hobby”
Maybe you need to find another hobby other than surfing Yankees blogs getting your feathers ruffled every time somebody points out coincidental facts, buddy. I’m aware correlation doesn’t equal causation. But I don’t feel the need to stipulate that with every comment. It’s pretty obvious. Still, it’s interesting to point out these coincidences. Don’t know why you seem to be so sensitive about them. Lighten up, it’s just the internet.
Without the two wild pitches the Yanks could have turned a DP and it would be a runner on 1B with 2 outs.
Need a DP here.
It’s hard to watch Burnett knowing he’s got basically zero control. It’s like hanging him out to dry out there.
Melancon went 1.2 innings with 1 walk, 1 hit and 1 strikeout. Jason Johnson pitched well allowing 2 runs on 3 hits. Eric Duncan is 2-4 w/2 RS and RBI and Shelley Duncan has a 3 run homer.
Coke should of been brought in to face Sizemore. Burnett has nothing left…But Girardi doesn’t want to go to the bullpen again. 106 pitches for an injury prone pitcher. Girardi is going to get CC and Burnett hurt because Wang is a disaster.
Come on AJ, little DP here to keep it at 3-1.
Its certainly not over yet. If they can pull this game out and get a split it will be huge.
They would have come back in 2 games and gotten blown out in the other 2. Can’t ask for much more than a split when that happens.
AJ if you get out of this great Job today and you deserved better from this pathetic offense.
WHERE THE EFF IS THAT PITCH, MAN. Ugh.
This ump stinks.
Even if we get Sizemore to K, you can guarantee they will get a 2 out hit to score that run.
Umps are on the take.
“It’s the SIZE. Those seats are obscene.’
Hey, for three grand, those seats should recline with a foot rest and have a 15″ LCD pop up from the side.
wow that was strike 3.
this home plate umpire is making OJ out of AJ
cheated yet again.
That was a strike!
How is that pitch to Sizemore not a strike? What a joke!
Frack. Come on
He’s just got nothing. Please take him out now.
vb03,
Yep…that about sums it up…
Other than playoff dissapointments, I can remember a more frustrating series…
The first opening day we’ve lost in a while–and it had to be at the new stadium, no less…
Yesterday’s “twilight zone” episode
and today…we can’t hit Pavano…
It’s a twilight marathon…
This umpire has cost Burnett at least 2 strikeouts which eventually became walks. How is he going to get good hitters out when every perfect pitch is a ball and he has to come over the plate?
Our poor bullpen. I think we lead the league in bringing relievers in with the bases loaded.
the ump is squeezing Aj. wtf.
Now the fun begins!
Because the Playoffs start tomorrow lol
This team has no STONES… zero… maybe Jeet can open his mouth for once. Not trying to kill him, but the years of leading by example are over.. these kids need for someone to get in their face..
Props to Burnett for a gutting through a tough day. It’s very difficult to basically be stretched so far when everyone knows you haven’t got your best stuff. He took one for the team today.
Not only has the ump cost AJ 2 K’s, but one of them led to a 2 -run HR..
Well, which one do we call on to give up the slam?
Lets go Alby
Right now, against Derosa, I’d be tempted to bring in Chamberlain, since it’s his throw day. That’s something that Girardi needs to do to lengthen the bullpen.
What in the world is Girardi doing?!!! He would rather bring in Alba with the bases loaded then with 1 man on? I sense a another yankee stadium homerun. Alba is not good enough to pitch in this situation. Girardi can not leave his other pitchers out to dry just because of Wang. Its not fair to them.
Grand Slam?
Dynasty is Destiny:
I don’t even care all that much about yesterday, but today is just a terrible showing, in many different ways. You can lose big and shrug it off by winning the next day, but we have yet to see if that will be the case today. Escalating the issue is a certain Rajah of Rehab, of course.
That was a strikeout! Good job by Burnett gutting it out. He had control issues, but the ump contributed greatly.
And this is the game. I really didn’t think the yankees would lose 3 of their first 4 against the indians. Welcome to last place boys, get real comfortable, cuz it is a long season when you are looking up at Baltimore, toronto, Boston and Tampa.
Fantastic team! Just fantastic.
Alba-please man
Can Molina block a ball cleanly?
Umps favoring hitters and fly balls jumping out of ballparks. Is this the Yankees/Bud Selig/MLB’s way of increasing offense to get fans to the ballpark?
Omg come on
Here comes a grand slam..Girardi could not have mismanaged this inning worse..
Good job Ransom.
Good work getting the force at home.
Do you remember when the Yankees were, THE YANKEES!?
Ransom charges the ball so nicely.
Ransom has had a solid day in the field today. Good for him.
The Yankees have a decent pen – it’s just worn out from having to go multiple innings in games of late. Good decision Ransom!!!
Nice heads up play by Ransom.
You know what?
That kid can play 3rd base…
Let’s Go Yanks!!!!
yeah one down one more to go
TY God – and Cody.
Come on Alby!
Nice job getting that out. Now please don’t let them score with 2 outs.
captainscorner, even jon gets out of this inning unscathed, girardi still mismanaged this inning, first by not complaining about any cheatjobs.
captainscorner, even jon gets out of this inning unscathed, girardi still mismanaged this inning, first by not complaining about any cheatjobs.
The Yankees are going to have a hard time being the YANKEES at “Coors Field at Yankee Stadium.”
Maybe you need to find another hobby other than surfing Yankees blogs getting your feathers ruffled every time somebody points out coincidental facts, buddy. I’m aware correlation doesn’t equal causation. But I don’t feel the need to stipulate that with every comment. It’s pretty obvious. Still, it’s interesting to point out these coincidences. Don’t know why you seem to be so sensitive about them. Lighten up, it’s just the internet.
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Yep, it’s the internet alright.
And anyone on this board can get challenged to defend their comments.
This is a discussion board. If you don’t like being called out for making asinine suggestions then stop making asinine suggestions.
Ugh, this inning should be over already.
Bleacher Creatures trying to get the Stadium awake for a change. Sounds like a funeral home in there right now.
niiice
Alby Sure!
Nice Job Alby
Nice job Alby. Awesome.
Great job by Alby to keep Burnett’s ERA clean.
Can the offense please do EFFIN SOMEThING!!!!!
well, Albie did his job. will the bats do their jobs?
“Do you remember when the Yankees were, THE YANKEES!?”
Yes, I do.
Be patient and do not lose faith…a Yankee Dynasty will reign once again…
Good job Albie!!! AJ likes it!!!
Too bad our offense won’t make that incredible job by Albaladejo matter.
Every cloud has a silver lining.
Burnett more than did his job.
Come on offense!
Nice save there by Alba!
wow, no 2 out hit after getting the im porant 2nd out.
and the loser indians hitters didnt just take pitches understanding jon would have walked them if given the chance.
Wow, fantastic job by Alba ………just fantastic. AJ sure appreciated that!
what is this umpire looking at?
anyways, Albaladejo is proving himself usefull
Great job by Burnett gutting it out. Good job by Girardi to bring in the only groundball pitcher in the pen. Good job by Ransom to save the run. Bad Yankee offense. Bad offense.
Now if the offense will only wake up…
Albaladejo had almost no control, until he needed the grounders. As bad a job of getting out clean as you’ll see. Good clutch pitching, though.
They got lucky on that one. But too bad it would take a miracle for this team to score another 2 runs..How sad is that..Too bad the Indians don’t have Arthur Rhodes. Here comes Betancourt, Perez and Wood.
O.K. I’ve complained alot today, and I love “God Bless America”, but can we at least play a different version. No offense Kate Smith, but your version should have been left across the street.
Lets see..
CC walked 5
Joba walked 5
Wang ( walked 20)
Burnett 7 walks today.
WTF is going on today.
Come on Yanks! Let’s get it going!
Another complaint…get a new recording of God Bless America. I don’t care if you have to pay Ronan Tynan to use his recording every game. Listening to Kate Smith game in and game out gets very old.
alby didnt do anything, the lsoer indians bailed him out by swinging, they could have put us away easily had they taken pitches. dont confuse results with success.
OK so while I cringe as I listen to Kate Smith a few thoughts.
Huge outs there by Alby. I’m happy for Burnett he only got charged with 3 runs. Now if we can only mount a comeback.
The Indians pen isn’t that good. 3 innings to do it.
You guys have to have faith in this team. With all the issues they’ve has to deal with so early in the season you can’t get too down on the offense.
Ok let’s do this!
Cano please get it started, too bad the rest of the lineup behind him is Triple A quality, Pinch Hit Posada for Matsui
Oakland just got shut out on 5 hits – they are anxiously awaiting their trip to Yankee Stadium.
all we need is a bloop and a blast
Great job….now the offense needs to get out there and score some runs. LET”S GO!!
I pointed out earlier that the strike zone has been pathetically small all weekend. Give Cleveland credit.. they’ve taken much ebtter advantage of it than the Yanks have, but with an umpire calling strikes at the knees AJ would have been very good today.
Get some decent umps in here andpitchers arent always behind in the count and there aren’t HR flying all over the place.
That said, Matsui has to go to the DL or retire. Berroa for Ransom is a must and Melky deserves more PT… at least we have Melky andJorge to PH in the late innings.
Albaladeo is a keeper
These guys have no pride. They’re getting killed by the guy that was never a teammate and took $40M from their ball club for nothing. He came into this game with a 9.0ERA. Add to that the 22-4 shellacking they took yesterday, and its even more pathetic.
Let’s score some god damn runs fellas. This is embarrassing.
The stadium is so quiet. I say we give some $2500 seats to the first person who predicted a stellar performance from Carl Pavano!
Toronto 10-4 after letting AJ go……what a gas!!!!
Toronto 10-4 after letting AJ go……what a gas!!!!
TOR should enjoy it while it lasts. They won’t stay in first for long.
For those of you who remember 5:00 lightening, it’s coming
The Yankees had to burn through their bullpen yesterday, so Girardi had to try and push AJ for an extra inning. If Wang had gone 7 innings yesterday, I’m sure someone from the pen would have been in to start the 7th. The Yankees simply cannot afford to keep getting short starts from Wang, and if they want to run him out there again, they need to have a long man in the bullpen.
Come on offense
Great start Cano! Keep it going!
That was a beautiful piece of hitting by Cano
This may have been AJ’s best outing of the year. Because last start his stuff was unhittable. He was supposed to dominate. But today he struggled but still gave us a quality start and saved the bullpen. Now the offense needs to come alive.
How about a shot down the left line, Luigi?
Cano…dont cha now….and we have the interstate boys coming up…urgghhhh
Pavano has left the game and will now be signing autographs for Yankee fans underneath the O’Neill banner
I ‘ve never really looked through the comments during a game before….but some of you crazy’s have lost the plot!!!
I’m from England and didn’t discover baseball until i was 28…yet i’m more balanced and knowledgeable than a good majority here today….get a grip!!!!
way to go Robbie!!
pinch hit for matsui
DYNASTY IS DESTINY!
April 19th, 2009 at 3:25 pm
“Do you remember when the Yankees were, THE YANKEES!?”
Yes, I do.
Be patient and do not lose faith…a Yankee Dynasty will reign once again…
tell me a story of when times were good, the earth rotated, people were happy, and the Yankees represented a team, a dynasty, not putrid old aged men grabbing their crotches trying to figure out if viagra will help or if their demise is cemented as just another team overpaying and trying to buy championships..
Mr Girardi, please move Cano up in the order in a run producing spot, that would be great.
if matsui can just get the guy to third it will be a victory
Mats gonna come up big here
Yanks have to try moving Cano up in the order and see if he continues to hit. Swish and Posada batting 4th and 5th cant happen for another 3 weeks.
What a chance here for Godzilla to strike!
Matsui used to kill lefties.
That strike zone is tiny..
I told you
GODZILLA RISES AGAIN!!!
gotta PR for Matsui here…
hmm I think Matsui is starting to come back?
Godzilla strikes!
Godzilla strikes!
Good for you, Matsui!
im glad i was wrong, lets go yanks keep it comin
big hit for matsui, way to stay on the ball
Nice timely hit Matsui…now we better not ground into a double play here.
2 hits in succesion? It can’t be. Gotta pinch hit here, don’t ya think?
“Yanks have to try moving Cano up in the order and see if he continues to hit.”
No. Leave Robbie where he is. You don’t want to mess him up by putting undue pressure on him.
Matsui now 3-for-3 against Perez.
Way to go Hideki… happy to have you make me look stupid!
will Girardi counter the move? hmm…
Matsucky got a hit? Unbelievable.
cano needs to move up, johnny damon is hitting third today for christs sake
WOW Matsui can hit!!! But he could barely move to get out of the box. They should bring in Pena to pinch run for him. They dont need him running on the bases.
Let’s go Yankees!
Matsui!
DT, The line is wrapped around the stadium for his autograph. Funny though, everyone had baseball bats in hand?
Do they have a pinch runner for Matsui?
tomorrow we get a closer look at matt holiday.
Gotta be thinking posada after cody
Pavano as player of the game? I may hurl!
Cano should be in a run producing spot in the order. It’s not like he is a rookie, if you can’t handle the pressure of hitting in the 3-4-5 spot in the order after 4 years in the league than he will never be ready.
so f-n slow
that’s why you don’t bunt with molina on base.
Ransom didn’t get the job done? Unbelievable.
Ughhh, Cody, Cody, Cody…..
lets go jorge
Frustrating….bunted the ball right to the pitcher.
Ransom will be DFA’d for ARod. Sorry, but if you can’t field, can’t hit, can’t bunt, there’s no need for ya.
Lol at mats all slow
Why aren’t you PH for Matsui!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
If we get this win…considering they scored 40 runs against us in the series…
A split doesn’t look half bad!
Let’s Go Yanks
Thanks cody..and hideki!
Pinch runner would’ve made it. Let’s hope that Georgie makes it an inconsequential non-move.
I am REALLY surprised they didn’t PR Pena.
Pressure Smessure… your better hitters need more AB and right now Robbie is the best hitter in pinstripes
Damon, Jeter, Cano, Tex, Jorge is my top five… after that you can pull names out of a hat
Wow, Ransom can’t even bunt right. Why is he on the roster again? His D sucks, he obviously can’t hit a lick, and can’t bunt as was just shown. Did he git Girardi a reach around or something?
Girardi needed to put in Pena to run for Matty.
Spark.. Molina wasn’t on base. Pay attention to the game.
Why in the world didnt Girardi pinch run for Matsui?!!!! He is a terrible manager…Matsui can barely move and he lets him run the bases. You have Melky and Pena. Please like Posada ever gets a big hit.
would be interesting to ask Girardi why he didn’t PR for slow as molasses Matsui.
If today doesn’t tell you that AJ is a different pitcher, then nothing will. 7 walks in a game is the most he’s had since his no-hitter……wow! He apparently had (was watching on/off) no curve – he gutted this one out. I’m not sure I would have let him pitch the 7th – I could be convinced either way – simply because he had thrown a lot of hard pitches (no easy innings).
Someone mentioned on another board that CC, Joba and AJ all had control problems and thought maybe it could be attributed to the mound. I tend to think it’s just coincidence – CC is a slow starter anyway and he was undoubtedly pumped up (same for AJ). Thoughts?
Was AJ booed as he left the mound? I was outside and missed it – but someone mentioned that it sounded like he was.
How on earth do you bunt with HIDEKI MATSUI at first base???
http://firejoegirardi.com/
YES YES YES!
!!!!
Sado!!!!!!!!
POSADA!!!!!
Alleluia!!!!!
Jorgie juiced one!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Woooohooooooooo.
I love that old man Posada.
i love this cozy little ballpark now!!!
jorge!!!!!!!
I just about passed out.
Jorge!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Let’s Go Yanks!!!!!
Uh, oh, thats gonna be questionable.e
Let’s go to the videotape.
HARDEE HAR HAR HAR HAR!!!!!
Awwww. Carl doesn’t get the flippin win.
WAH!!!!!
home run.
Jorge!!!
That was gone!
Oh this going to be messy.
How long before MLB intervenes.
And where is the railing that was present after the Jeff Meier incident.
Lets go to the videotape!
Instant replay amybe
Well his 1st big hit of the year. The ball went over the wall. Here comes replay..
can’t they use replay for this situation?
give it to us!!
They need to give this to us because they’ve screwed us all series with the balls/strikes.
Seriously? Make a effin call already
reversed
Home run. Legit.
It was a home run. It hit the fence and no one touched it.
Hey even if it isn’t a homer, we tied the damned game.
DT said:
“would be interesting to ask Girardi why he didn’t PR for slow as molasses Matsui.”
Yeah, why not PR Melky or ANYONE ELSE!!!!!
Wow these umps are awful.
It clearly went over the wall….They better not call it an out.
Looks like the fans white glove was above the wall. His glove is the one that interfered. HR!
That’s gonna be ruled a ground rule double.
I think that’s a HR……..
just ask Michael Kaye. i mean he knows EVERYTHING
What a game.
damn! jeffrey meier has put on weight.
what are the rules regarding fan interference?
they cant call it an out……if its not a home run its a ground rule double
it was OVER!!!! damnit.
That ball definitely hit the top of the wall
It was 2 feet over the wall!
thats a home run, it hit the top of the wall, the guy didnt touch it.
Knowing the Yanks luck it won’t be a homerun. In a series that had 1,000 homeruns.
“damn! jeffrey meier has put on weight.”
LOL… good one.
I think it’s a HR, but the umps will say Ground Rule Double.
I’m just wondering why we wouldn’t have pinch run Pena for Matsui? We know he’s the tin man with knees made of rust so why let him run the bases on a bunt play like that? Pena probably makes it safe on that play right?
This looks like it wasn’t a real homer. I don’t see them coming back saying 2 run homer.
they can rule fan interference and it becomes a fly out.
maybe it would hit him in the chest?????
This is a really tough call.
theres no way they can assume he would catch that if not for fans…that would truly be rediculous
All three “players” missed the ball and that bounced off the top of the wall.
Could they possibly rule fan interference here?
There is no way they can say that he would of caught that…The ball hit the guy in the chest not his hand. His chest wasn’t over the wall his arm was.
Fan leaned over the wall, interfered with fielder’s glove.
Fan interference … Posada out.
fan interference:
When a spectator or other person not associated with one of the teams (including such staff as bat boys or ball girls) alters play in progress, it is spectator interference (colloquially called fan interference). The ball becomes dead, and the umpire will award any bases or charge any outs that, in his judgment, would have occurred without the interference.
There’s no way that ball is caught. At worst it should be a double, second and third 1 out, down 3-2.
Well – if we end up with runners on 2nd and 3rd, some damned Yankee hitter better get the run in.
Posada should have had that extra bowl of Wheaties.
lmao, they are not gonna call posada out….
Home run..it was over the wall
Looking good. Wedgie not happy.
Looks like Wedge is doing all the arguing so hopefully it’s a homerun.
Who will get tossed here?
It’s looking like Wedge!
MLB reply is a joke… what’s it been? 10 minutes?
HOMERR
HR HR HR HR HR
Thank you!!!
HOME RUN!
there wasnt fan interference, the ball was clearly in the stands!!!
YES!!!!!
They gt i right.
Phew! I can’t take much more of this game.
It counts! Sweet!
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!
she screamed out loud!!!!
the trajectory of the ball with no people involved would have cleared the fence.
Well, the ghosts finally showed up. Thank you!!!
yessssssssssss!!!!
the right porch giveth and the right porch taketh away.
Why isn’t there a time limit on replays? That took way too long…
i say homerun but i’m biased. however, this was a bad example of replay in baseball… it really was a judgment call that replays didn’t help much
Both Fox announcers agree it’s a BS call ….. umps are intimidated.
Thank God Pavano doesn’t get the win. I wanted us to crush his bruised buttocks, but I’ll take him not winning.
Cardiac Kids….
Screw you Pavano!!!! Haha…. as long as our bullpen holds the lead *crosses fingers*
JUSTICE IS SERVED!
i love baseball!!!
poor Carl Pavano can’t get the win now…
tough luck band-aid man.
AND PAVANO DOESN’T GET THE WIN!
Winning this game would be huge. Would love to get an insurance run here, with the way the ball is flying out of the park.
Haha. The Crawford bros. are usually on my **** list. But I just flipped the channel, and Joey bailed out Bynum, too!
There is no way they can ever say a ball would of caught on a play like that. It is way too hard to tell. In Baltimore when Damon complained that he would of had the ball and the fan reached over the umpires didn’t care at all.
I guess 5:00 lightening came at 3:35..
“the trajectory of the ball with no people involved would have cleared the fence.”
Good point…it looked to me like it hit the fan, then hit the top of the wall, richoceted off the RF’s glove and bounced back onto the field…
Good call!
You could have argued fan intereference, HR or live ball. I think it touched the fan on the right, meaning HR but I admit it would have been either of the other two.
When the replay is unclear you go with the call… first thing this barbershop quartet has gotten right all weekend
Gardner is down 0-1 every AB
I was waiting for Girardi to let Jorge exact revenge on the IDLE but this will suffice.
Kenny S., with the Dylan quote…
Posada is getting old. Look at all of that gray hair!
AND BURNETT DOESN’T GET THE LOSS!!!!
He got screwed on more than a few calls. Athletic justice. They need to take this game or it won’t matter at all.
W.B. Mason is getting their money’s worth today.
I agree 100% 86w183. You go with the original call if the replay can’t definitively help you decide what the call should be.
Hip Hip Jorge!!!!
In theory, with the way the park is playing, Gardner could hit one out. Hey, it could happen!
dear brett,
stop swinging like a jv softball player
Okay, I guess not. LOL!
I just hope our bullpen doesn’t find a way to screw this up.
Darling won’t shut up. If the call was upheld for his Mets, he’d have shut up.
wouldn’t it be torture to be one of those security guards that has to stand there and face the stands. so, on one hand you get to be at yankee stadium but then you can’t watch the game. torture.
How many homeruns is that now in this series? 20?
Betsy
April 19th, 2009 at 3:38 pm
Was AJ booed as he left the mound? I was outside and missed it – but someone mentioned that it sounded like he was
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Betsy,
Didn’t hear that, but was out there every other game of this series, and I was appalled by Joba being booed, and Wang.
I hate this kind of post-90s “fan” who boos whenever things aren’t going well. Chamberlain is really still a baby and is building his arm up, the other guy is clearly struggling, and no one’s interested in why or is the least bit inquisitive, they just see it as an opportunity to boo and demean someone. Forget Yankee fans, these people aren’t baseball fans. They’re the same idiots who booed ARod at every opportunity.
I hate this type infiltrating the ballpark.
Can Long work with Gardner on his girl swing please… Hopefully Bruney has it today…He has had it an awful lot recently that a bad inning is going to happen shortly.
great pinch hit appearance by posada, but he’s got to run instead of watch on a fly ball like that. i’d fine him in kangaroo court at least $25.
see, the yanks just have to learn to take advantage of the “jet stream”, as much as it can be a nuisance (sp?) it can also be of benefit to the team.
So, all of you ‘Joba to the bullpen’ peeps, shouldn’t Jorge be a permanent pinch-hitter?
“Didn’t hear that, but was out there every other game of this series, and I was appalled by Joba being booed, and Wang.
I hate this kind of post-90s “fan” who boos whenever things aren’t going well.”
I agree. The Stadium fans should be more like the bloggers here.
April 19th, 2009 at 3:51 pm
Posada is getting old. Look at all of that gray hair!
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but that lefty power swing never gets old
Randy— He couldn’t run all out or he would have had to pass Ransom who was halfway between first and second with just one out.
and it’s not like Jorge’s all-out sprint and job are all that different!
Gardner’s “Girl Swing” LOL
Well Played
CC
All I heard was cheers for Burnett as he left. Sure there could have been some boos but the response seemed good to me. It was 3-1 in the 7th, he didn’t pitch badly.
Betsy, I didn’t hear any booing for AJ.
DT
April 19th, 2009 at 3:56 pm
“Didn’t hear that, but was out there every other game of this series, and I was appalled by Joba being booed, and Wang.
I hate this kind of post-90s “fan” who boos whenever things aren’t going well.”
I agree. The Stadium fans should be more like the bloggers here.
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Yes, minus the ones who think it’s fun to call Melky a piece of lard. I don’t want that idiot sitting next to me.
While I was glad they ruled it a HR, they should’ve just ruled fan interference and ejected the fan for violating Section 1.1 of the fan code.
If you are old enough to have a beer, you do NOT wear a glove to the game. At least Jeffery Meier was 12 and still a kid when he committed his legacy act.
If you do wear a glove to a game – at least catch the ball.
Pathetic.
And Ransom continues to earn his butter.
I too believe Gardner’s Swing is Hank Haney Material…
I think Fenway also has seats right up to the fence, and that the Sox have benefited from that.
And, while Jorge had a tremendous AB coming off the bench, Albaladejo clearly saved this game. Whenever someone says Cash stinks and makes bad trades, we should remember his getting Albie from the Nationals for Tyler Clippard (remember him?).
“He couldn’t run all out or he would have had to pass Ransom who was halfway between first and second with just one out.”
good point. i’ll have to fine myself
One thing about Jorge’s dinger, it was a jam shot…I mean he hit of the label area, not much wood on it…..
Just throwing out an idea…did the umpires need to have proof that Crowe would have caught the ball? I don’t think they do. The fans touched his glove, thus interfering with his ATEMPT to catch the ball. Guys drop fly balls right to them sometimes, so even if the ball was heading right for his glove you still can’t be sure he would have caught it. I think just that fact that he was interfered with on a play within reasonable distance should necessitate an intereference call. Either way, I’ll take the homerun:)
that foul pop-up would have been out of play in the old stadium.
Are the Red Sox just giving Papelbon a day off? Saito’s in to close a 2-run lead but he’s allowed the first two batters to reach base.
I like the “fan code”… very clever
Bruney is the man
3 more outs, guys. And still talking about the darn play.
Who’s going to pitch the 8th? Joba needs to be there. We need a shutdown 8th inning guy.
why does it seem the Orioles play us tough but don’t do the same for Boston?
Thanks, guys!
They booed Joba? You know, it’s not surprising as these are the same fans that booed Mo and Rivera. I guess it’s an epidemic – Sox fans booed Ortiz a couple of games ago. You can’t do that – it’s just not right.
When I was at the game on Thursday, AJ got a very nice reception and the fans around me were appreciative of his efforts. I’m glad that, at least today, the fans were knowledgable enough to understand that without any control, he still battled and kept the team in the game.
It would be nice to get some insurance runs.
Papelbon pitched Friday and yesterday. Probably getting a day off.
YES just showed Jorge sitting next to Swish on the bench, talking about his HR. Guess stories of a fatal rift between them is a bit overdone.
Good work there by Bruney!
Brian Bruney is fast becoming the new ‘Joba in the pen.’
Let’s just hope it continues…
“why does it seem the Orioles play us tough but don’t do the same for Boston?”
Because they don’t. They always wimp out for BOS. Happened last year as well.
V— we get it… find a new trick willya?
No control???
I’m sorry but that Umpire was forcing AJ into the middle of every bat!!!
What did you want him to do?
AJ showed incredible patience if you ask me.
The Orioles started off yesterdays 9th inning with 1st and 2nd and did nothing..Like I would expect they will do again today.
And there it is….
All you negative idiots and hand wringers can rest easy in knowing the Yankees are 3 Mariano Rivera outs away from a victory.
The team is far from perfect, but to be 7-6 so far with all the crap that’s happened is pretty good.
Maybe the whining will subside for a few hours.
Insurance runs? We don’t need no insurance runs… we got Mariano!!
Brian Bruney was annoyed that people were thinking he couldn’t do the 8th inning job. He’s got something to prove and so far, he’s doing a good job of it.
Betsy – There’s a difference between fans and idiots. Unfortunately, idiots still have rights to go to ballgames.
Bruney has such great balance on the rubber when he lifts and kicks…..The weight loss is a big factor…
big papi is having trouble hitting with that huge fork in his back.
he’s done.
In other news, David Ortiz 0-4 today. No Manny + stricter steroid testing = Downfall of Ortiz
Swish!
Swish!
Nice hit Swish!!
Swisher with a *SOLID* 2B.
So, the mouthbreathing morons from this site now see that you can get blown out and it is just one loss, that you don’t have to cry disaster, tragic, etc., or whine about the fact Carl Pavano, when he is on, can pitch decently? Oh, and Nick Swisher doubles. Oh, now ya like him?
nick. not complaining, really i’m not. but we need you do that with guys on base, too.
3 run homer matsui.
Wow, CWS is killing TB.
Swish gets a pinch runner and Matsui didn’t??!! LOL
Jerome,
Early in the game it was clear that AJ didn’t have his breaking stuff. One pitch was so high, even Ransom wouldn’t get it. Then it appeared that he had finger issues. But then when he found his control, he wuz robbed!
But he did a great job dealing with his control issues and his temper. He had cause to bark at the umps, but kept his cool.
Nice hit by Swisher. Cano with the IBB. Nice.
I know Swisher always points to the sky after a hit, but is the arm crossing thing new? Maybe an X in tribute to Nady? Seemed like he looked into the dugout when he did it too.
AD
April 19th, 2009 at 4:08 pm
In other news, David Ortiz 0-4 today. No Manny + stricter steroid testing = Downfall of Ortiz
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I guess you didn’t get the TheoSpeak manual. Manny’s absence has made the Red Sox BETTER.
m, are out there, Lakers routing The Jazz..
Godzilla will make them pay!
Let’s Go Yanks!
WAY OUTSIDE CALLED STRIKE
Yeah kp its for nady
wow twice
Papi might be finished. But I am sure when he sees how small this ballpark plays he will have no problem hitting when they play in NY. This ballpark and Yanks pitching always seemed to get him going anyway no matter how bad he looked.
I agree completely M.
He certainly didn’t have the breaking stuff from the Tampa start ie everything falling into the zone but I really thought he did a great job not going all Mussina on the Umpire when he was getting pigeon holed into the center of the plate…
bases loaded
Nice at-bat by Mats there.
That made sense why pitch to Matsui when the pitcher is on deck…
A quick cliffnotes version of Chip Caray’s diatribe about the Yankees controversial home run call: WAAAAAAHHH!
Well, at least we can say he’s due!
Grand Slam CODY RAAAAANsom
Great AB by Matsui. Now we just need a miracle for Ransom to find a way to knock a guy in. I don’t yet trust this ballpark with a 1-run lead, even with Mo on the mound.
actually good spot for Ransom – this guy will toss fastballs.
Betsy
April 19th, 2009 at 4:02 pm
Thanks, guys!
They booed Joba? You know, it’s not surprising as these are the same fans that booed Mo
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I do have to protest somewhat here. I was there that night, and there were SO FEW people who actually booed Rivera. People were looking at each other in disbelief trying to find the scant group of blasphemers.
I just marvel how when the Yanks take the lead, all the negatives vibes seem to disappear…To a degree of course
“That made sense why pitch to Matsui when the pitcher is on deck…”
LOL! That was cold.
sIT on a breaking ball kid. make him throw a strike 1st.
Girardi should of pinch hit with CC. We know CC loves to hit.
just missed it
Sterling: “Cody will be ready to swing at a pitch he can handle.”
What pitch would that be?
M, the zen of AJ, lol. Pete wrote an article this spring about how AJ is reading a book by Harvey Dorfman – a noted sports psychologist. Basically, he’s able now to let things go that are out of his control (bad plays, missed calls by umps, etc…..) and that makes a big difference. He’s keeping his cool and he kept the team in the game – big assist by Alby.
CC would hit a salami in this spot:)
i feel a cody hr
Pat M.,
Yes, flipping back and forth. Enjoying the view, but would like some more cushion from channel 45.
Is it possible to give a take sign on 3-2
“Girardi should of pinch hit with CC. We know CC loves to hit.”
As much as CC likes to hit, I doubt that we will ever see that. No way they want to risk CC getting hurt like that. Can you say CMW?
ROFL!!!
HAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHHAHAHA
CHOO FORGETS WHERE HE IS
LOL. Very nice hit. Very nice baserunning.
Man, did Ransom need that, and, he deserved it.
What the hell was the left-fielder thinking?? It looked like he just stopped on the field. I’ll take it though.
Wow, on a broken bat.
I guess karma evens out. A broken bat double that the LF loses in the sun kinda makes up for the hard hit ones right at fielders. Good for Cody.
Bat doesn’t break that’s a grandslam
spark
April 19th, 2009 at 4:02 pm
why does it seem the Orioles play us tough but don’t do the same for Boston?
because right now Boston is that much better than the Yankees. The Yankees are closer to Baltimore than Tampa or Boston.
we got a break there
hahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
No save situation now – bring in Wang and make it interesting.
the ghosts are making up for lost time.
Didn’t know Abreu plays LF for the Indians!!!
And Cody just earned his bread!
The train left the station, Choo.
Should that be scored an error?
There are those insurance runs that I requested.
Bodhisattva, you may be right – I don’t mean to imply that the whole stadium was booing. It’s just unbelievable that there would be any fans doing that…….but then, it would be hard for me to call them fans.
m, I have tickets for both games 1 & 2 @ Staples…I can’t go….
Ransom finally gets a break!
bright side for the Yankees. If they get a split, they have only lost 1 series to date. Just seem worse because there have been too many blowouts. Perhaps if they keep this up, it will even out in the end and they will have a shot at the WC.
“Should that be scored an error?”
Not if you lose the ball in the sun. He never put a glove on it so it’s not an error.
this certainly feels good, although I wish these hits were against Pavano
Oh man, I’m not liking the thought of Giambi and that RF porch. They better pitch around him.
Panyioti
The Oriolle’s have ZERO pitching.
Their offense has been consistent against everyone this year. Including BOston.
Go check the box scores for Markakis/Jones/Roberts/Huff etc…
It’s their pitching that can’t handle Boston.
Ps…They wouldn’t be able to handle us either if we didn’t have 3 auto-outs every day.
No disrespect CODY hah
Kerry Wood = Nasty
Stephen Jackson in the ninth??
i don’t beleive boston is better than us. they were 2-6 going into the b-more series. and one of those wins was a near no-hitter by wakefield. then they were down 7-0 to the 0′s on Friday. the O’s just don’t play well in fenway park.
Pat M,
Too bad.
Looks like Woods lost about 30 lbs….
Guess the ump has reservations…
Oh yeah and that A-ROD guy might also keep the O’s from looking quite as competitive as they have against us to date..
* Kevin Long needs to be fired
* Matsui is finished and his career is essentially over
* This pathetic offense is so bad right now that I foresee a rough patch that is going to take a long time to fix
* Kevin Long is the reason why Jeter hits into more DPs than he did when he was younger
All points made by “Free Juan Miranda” within the last 60 to 90 minutes on this very thread.
If they can take 2 out of 3 against the A’s you have to consider this a good homestand.
With Wang imploding, the strange wind patterns, the injuries to A Rod and Nady, and the struggles and knee issues of Matsui that’s not so bad.
The Yankees ‘have no guts’, right Doris?
Kevin Long should be fired, right guys?
Ransom’s back?
Sometimes baseball is predictable. After the first game loss to Cle I predicted wins in game 2 and 4 and a loss in 3 due to pitching matchups. And while the starting pitchers aren’t necessarily reponsilbe for the outcome here, it still will wind up a series split.
So for all you people above who panicked, complained, took up drinking, or were ready to swear off the Yankees, everything is fine. Next time try and calm down or better yet go outside and ignore the Yankees and just check the score when it’s over. You can’t handle real game action.
Mo
this was cody’s best game of the year. maybe he will settle down and just play ball. he’s not as bad as he’s looked. really he’s not.
Defense!
Everybody see Mo’s first pitch to shoppach??
THAT WAS A STRIKE THIS UMPIRE IS A COMPLETE A HOLE Everything has to be middle of the plate for this guy.
Tex and Mo loving the play by Ransom. I’ve never seen Cody smile.
who cares about MO’s velocity. Shut Up Michael Kay. This is friggin’ Mariano Rivera you’re talking about.
is it ok to stick my head up out of the foxhole???
We’re up by 4 paul
Wow anybody else see those empty seats with Mo on the mound? How weird.
Great win for the Yanks!!!!
Great win for the Yanks!!!!
Where is that smirk now Grady?
Nice win. Great win.
Mo heads back to the bullpen? Who’s carrying the pink backpack?
And poor Nady. Hi-fiving with his left hand.
And, Albaladejo gets a much deserved win. Great bullpen work, to go with a real pro pitching job by Burnett, who had nothing and still did the job.
Is there anything more beautiful to watch than a hitter look at called strike 3 from Mo to end the game?
And just like that, yesterday’s game is forgotten. 22-4 is still just one loss.
Too bad they couldn’t have hit Pavano, but I really don’t care as long as they won the game.
erome Manhattan
April 19th, 2009 at 4:22 pm
Panyioti
The Oriolle’s have ZERO pitching.
Their offense has been consistent against everyone this year. Including BOston.
Go check the box scores for Markakis/Jones/Roberts/Huff etc…
It’s their pitching that can’t handle Boston.
I don’t think we are disagreeing. You are stating what I just said which is Boston is better than the Yankees. Our pitching is only slightly better than Baltimore’s, but our hitting is worse than Balitimore so they play us tough. Either way you state it, this Yankee team is not very good right now. They represent the 2007/2008 Yankees – inconsistent, struggle against teams they should beat. That has to change quickly before Boston and Tampa get going, otherwise, it is a season long battle to finish in 3rd ahead of Toronto.
Betsy you are absolutely right. Nothing like a win to erase the memory of a loss!
Everyone contributed. And Carl Pavano ended up with bupkus.
A good time was had by all.
AJ is definitely the star of the game. Didn’t have his best stuff but did enough to keep his close. I loved seeing how AJ, CC, and Pettitte have battled…..now Joba and Wang need to join in on the party
“Our pitching is only slightly better than Baltimore’s, but our hitting is worse than Balitimore”
You can’t be serious? B-More has a good line up, but the pitching is substantially worse. Not even close.
Yep, Alby was the real hero of the game. AJ ‘s going to become something of a cult hero if he keeps this up – I’m sure his teammates appreciate his efforts.
also albaladejo came up huge
There are only six teams in the Major Leagues with more wins than the Yankees. After all the crazy things that have happened so far (i.e. Wang, the HR happy stadium, Nady, etc.), I think you have to be feeling alright as a Yankee fan.
That was a psyche restoring win. No to mention a Pavano game winning steal game.
Listening to the Dodgers game. It will be very sad when Vin Scully is gone. He is just a great announcer and doesn’t even need an annoying side kick – sorry Suzyn – who does nothing more than state the obvious in over dramatic fashion.
This makes me feel better about all the time it is taking for me to figure out getting my Opening Day pictures up. People will probably still be willing to look at them after today’s win.
PAT M, I’m more impressed by NYY’s ability to win the close games than I’m disgusted by the blowout losses. That’s the mark of a team that’s got things right despite the issues with injuries and pitching.
Everyday is a new day and a new ball game…..
This team is like Jekyl and Hyde. The games with Burnett, Pettitte, Bruney, and Mo have been lights out, great wins. The games with Wang, and the two starts by CC and Joba where Veras and Marte blew it were awful.
What we need to do is get CC on track to consistently pitch into the 7th inning and Wang to look like a pitcher again and then I see some winning streaks coming ahead.
Lost in all this is that AJ had a couple of issues. The umpire came out in that 1st or 2nd inning where whe had some kind of issue. They described it as stiffness? Hopefully his finger issue isn’t a serious one.
Yesterday’s loss was an outlier. That’s not what the Yankees are.
Better defense today. Much better.
RS – I am willing to put the Opening Day game totally in its own category because of the possibility of new stadium opening day jitters and horrors. So all in all, not bad when you put it in perspective. Games minus CM (and Opening Day) not bad at all.
If CM wants to work his stuff out on the field, more power to him. Even if Girardi doesn’t let it happen that way, I’d rather have that kind of attitude than someone cowering like a beaten dog.
he had something in his eye (Burnett) not stiffness
It really is a shame about Wang because if he looked like his normal self and was 2-1, the Yankees would be 9-4 right now.
Finally, there is joy in LoHudville.
Oh Trish.
The pictures! LOL.
Depending on your camera and computer you probably have 2 options. Just grab the USB cord connect it to the camera and connect the other side to the computer.
or
Take the memory card out of the camera and stick it into the computer.
Either option should automatically bring up the pictures and then you just have to move them to a file.
Good luck!
V
April 19th, 2009 at 4:26 pm
The Yankees ‘have no guts’, right Doris?
Kevin Long should be fired, right guys?
No disrespect but those insurance runs came on a fielder having an Abreu moment. Any respectable fielder would have caught that ball and it is 4-3 going to the 9th.
Bottom line is they were punk’d by Carl Pavano, needed a questionable HR call to beat a team that they should have swept. That said, it is NOT kevin long. Not even the best hitting coach can make poor hitters effective, especially at the MLB level. The Yankees have chosen to go for grandeur in their hitters and suffer from it. As for the guts, again, there has been little effort from this team on this home stand. You would think that playing in a new stadium, buying all the best players would motivate adults playing a children’s game. But it does not. Instead the stoic, show no emotion Yankees have forgotten how to dig inside and find the fun they displayed in the early Torre years. Dressing up rookies does not show a sign of “fun”. Nick Swisher and his antics, IS what they need.
If you guys didn’t see it live, you have to catch Ariza’s reverse dunk after blazing past Boozer.
The only way I agree with Kay that AJ’s 7 walks is disconcerting is if I think that it’s going to be a pattern for him……..and I don’t, at all. I think he had 3 in the 7th, when he was gassed………I’m not saying 7 is good by any means, just that it seems a bit like an outlier.
And once again, another comeback vistory.
No one seems to want to talk about that. And its so important.
Last year I had a huge gripe with the team in regards to what I described as “heart”.
I thought the 2008 team showed no heart. None.
This team is completely different. They fight. They claw back. They show toughness. Its great to see.
Both wins this series… big come from behind victories. 3 runs in the 7th and 8th today. 2 days ago they scored one run in each of the 6th 7th and 8th. That’s fantastic. They also had a come from behind victory against KC.
These are great wins. These early gritty wins will hopefully put the team over the top when the dust settles in late September.
We won! Crisis over..at least until the next loss.
Corey, is that true? I hope so because blister issues (or whatever) can linger – didn’t Beckett have that problem a few years ago?
GB, I agree completely about winning the close games. I don’t know what the Yankees’ record in close games has been for the last few years, but my perception is that it has not been good. These blowouts are aberrations -well, as long as Wang isn’t pitching. It was frustrating that they couldn’t hit Pavano (who pitche well) and left men on base again, but hey – they got the job done.
Crawford’s strike zone today was the size of a salad plate, and anything an inch above the belt was a ball….It used to be that if that was the top of the zone, then the pitcher would get at least one ball length off the plate ( inside and out )…Not today ….AJ kept his team in the game, quality start when he clearly didn’t have his A game…..
GB7-
“PAT M, I’m more impressed by NYY’s ability to win the close games than I’m disgusted by the blowout losses. That’s the mark of a team that’s got things right despite the issues with injuries and pitching.”
After watching the game on TV, Pavano was never >89 mph, and his slow curve/changeup were hittable. I have to agree with you that winning the close games, coming back in the late innings, having “luck” on your side, and a dominant bullpen are all great, but Pavano still had a perfect game after 3 innings with IMO nothing more than garbage.
Looks like Ransom saved his place on the team for the meantime, with a fine defensive performance.
trisha – I am panic proof.
April 19th, 2009 at 4:42 pm
RS – I am willing to put the Opening Day game totally in its own category because of the possibility of new stadium opening day jitters and horrors. So all in all, not bad when you put it in perspective. Games minus CM (and Opening Day) not bad at all.
If CM wants to work his stuff out on the field, more power to him. Even if Girardi doesn’t let it happen that way, I’d rather have that kind of attitude than someone cowering like a beaten dog.
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For me, OD was a 1-1 game through 6 and Girardi over-managed the BP. That was a winnable game.
Panayioti. Ya make your own luck. Who cares that they got “punked” by Pavano? “Saving face” machismo is for punks.
Burnett has no health issues.
No blister.
No finger problem.
Where do you get your information from?
Let’s all keep in my mind that it is very likely that 1 month from now, this team will:
1) Replace the worst (or close to it) starter in the ML’s with the best all around player.
2) Will have 5 starting pitchers, ranging from excellent (CC) to above average (Pettitte).
3) Have Melancon, Bruney, and Mo to close out games.
As long as they can tread water until Alex comes back, and Wang gets turned around, the rest of the division will be in trouble.
Good fight from the team today despite AJ not having his best stuff, and getting squeezed on a few calls. Good defense, timely hitting, and a nice job by Albaladejo. I’ll definitely take it.
miggs –
Anything having to do with electronics causes me big woes!!!
But I’m almost there. Now I’m just arranging them into a “photo album”. It doesn’t help that I took so many. I was just so wired being there on opening day I guess.
I think 2-3 of those walks should’ve been strikeouts.
The rest? On a day when he didn’t have his breaking stuff and possibly had finger issues? The walks are fine because we won and because he wasn’t hurt too much by them (just the one on Choo’s HR). Albie got the job done. Bottom line.
Yankee Trader
April 19th, 2009 at 4:58 pm
GB7-
“PAT M, I’m more impressed by NYY’s ability to win the close games than I’m disgusted by the blowout losses. That’s the mark of a team that’s got things right despite the issues with injuries and pitching.”
After watching the game on TV, Pavano was never >89 mph, and his slow curve/changeup were hittable. I have to agree with you that winning the close games, coming back in the late innings, having “luck” on your side, and a dominant bullpen are all great, but Pavano still had a perfect game after 3 innings with IMO nothing more than garbage.
Looks like Ransom saved his place on the team for the meantime, with a fine defensive performance.
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what really got lost in the defensive plays from Teixeira and the day long sparklers from Ransom, was the outstanding DP when Cano when up the middle to flag down Shoo’s hit.
AJ’s a great interview – didn’t blame the park for his HRs (he accepts that when you throw hard, you’re going to give up some of those) and gave major props to Cano, Tex and Alby.
GB7 / Yankee trader,,,The mark of a good team has also been how they fare out in close ( 1 run games ) and their ability to come from behind…..That is a necessary quality when talking about a team and their chances in winning in the postseason…..Yanks have demonstrated that ability early in 09…I still see only one blown game ( KC GAME 3 )….This team will be fine, as they are overcoming adversity day in and day out…..
Albaladejo sounds *like* a valley girl.
I think we all know how much better this team will be with A-Rod looming in the line-up.
BTW, that play by Ransom to home was huge, even the final score doesn’t seem to indicate that.
GB, that was an absolutely outstanding play. It shouldn’t get lost – boy, Robby is playing at the top of his game. It’s wonderful to see – he’s so smooth.
panayioti
April 19th, 2009 at 4:48 pm
“Instead the stoic, show no emotion Yankees have forgotten how to dig inside and find the fun they displayed in the early Torre years. Dressing up rookies does not show a sign of “fun”. Nick Swisher and his antics, IS what they need.”
The 1996 team was good but seemed to have “fate” on their side. The 1998 team was hands down one of the best Yankee teams ever, and made up of a lot of reliable players who would play a NL style of baseball, and do the little things to win. Since A-Rod arrived the long ball is king-Earl Weavers approach to winning!
Now that the new stadium seems to be an easier homerun to righcenter and right field, I expect the Yankees to be trying comebacks with more and more solo homeruns, since many in their lineup are easy outs, or rally killing outs.
“Albaladejo sounds like a valley girl.”
I was ROFL… never heard him speak before. I’ve been thinking for about a week now that Girardi’s got a lot of faith in him. I really thought Joe would’ve went to Bruney in the 7th – I know I would’ve. But its good to see the guy get the chance and do the job.
I dont think everyone should be rushing to judgement on how “awesome” Melancon is going to be. Granted, I have seen him pitch several times in Trenton and his stuff is electric, but I am reluctant to call him the bullpen’s savior. MLB batters are a different breed.
My point being, hope for the best but expect less.
Randy johnson is perfect through 4 innings against ‘Zona, with 5 strikeouts, and, amazingly, he’s actually got a 1-0 lead against scherzer.
“Albaladejo sounds like a valley girl.”
Bahaha, I thought the same thing. Never heard him talk before, that was one of those cases where his voice shocked the hell outta me.
Vin why would you use Bruney in the 7th down 2 runs with the bases loaded?
That makes no sense. You don’t use your top set up guy when you’re behind by 2 runs, not even taking into consideration it was the 7th inning.
Yankee Trader, I think the longball mentality came about in 2002 with the arrival of Giambi and Ventrua and then Alfanso Soriano started to go off as well…..The three run homer became the Yankee motto….Torre hated it….
Alby was the right call. Groundball pitcher with 1 out.
BTW, I just finished reading “The Yankee Years,” mostly written by Tom Verducci and told with many excerpts from David Cone and Mike Borzello, the bullpen coach, from the early successful years. I got it from the library and I suggest that you don’t buy it, as it could easily have been written in much less than 480′some pages.
If Torre had left out the last chapter on how The Boss was basically a demented shell of himself, and how he felt Cashman became a numbers man and let him down on a propsed contract extension, most of what was written about goings on in the clubhouse would be perceived as meaningless drivel.
Just got in and saw that the Yanks won. Surprised that they couldn’t touch Pavano, but they won and that’s the bottom line.
Fran- Didn’t we all expect the Yanks to somehow make Pavano look like Greg Maddux?
A win is a win is a win is a win.
“That makes no sense. You don’t use your top set up guy when you’re behind by 2 runs, not even taking into consideration it was the 7th inning.”
To me, that was the game right there. If you hold them then you got 9 outs to score 2 runs. I’m not too big a believer in having an “8th inning guy.” Sometimes you need to “save” the game in the 7th. Believe me, I’m thrilled that Alby got the chance and did the job.
Fran,
Early on Pavano was just short of masterful. Thanks to the Yankees. I think they wanted to make him pay. They were out in front on everything.
So who wants to start a petition for the yankees to lower ticket prices so the embarrassment of having hundreds of open seats in a brand new stadium goes away?
“Alby was the right call. Groundball pitcher with 1 out.”
Fortunately he was… but you know as well as I that if he came in and gave up a groundball with eyes there would be people here skewering him – calling for a strikeout pitcher like Bruney.
A win by any other means would feel as sweet! (a tip of the cap to the Bard)
Pavanos a tool box.
Pat M, I hope the HR ball is not going to be this team’s motto. Mark DeRosa told Kat O’Brien that this place plays like a bandbox and also told Tex that he should hit 50 HRs……
Al,m – Guess that I should have expected Pavano to do well against the Yanks. But at least the Yanks got the win. If they had lost to Pavano I think that would have been worse than yesterday’s loss
What were the ticket prices for the field level seats between dugouts last year?
In Atlanta you can buy online, “same day ” tickets for almost half the price before the game that day, in good field level seats, if available.
One of the most embarrassing things from today’s game is that man drinking a martini behind home plate. So gaudy & gauche.
Trisha, after Posada’s HR maybe more pitchers will request him as their catcher
I’m surprised with all the $ spent and technology available, that they don’t have a seat/ticket bar code system in place. One that instantly provides what seats are taken and what are available after scanning upon entry. So if by the 3rd inning, a seat sold never entered the stadium, you can either:
A) allow fans to purchase upgrades (say for $20 a head)to sit there
B) allow volunteer organizations in and provide them an amazing experience
C) simply have staff on hand to provide upgrades to those seating in the nosebleeds.
“So who wants to start a petition for the yankees to lower ticket prices so the embarrassment of having hundreds of open seats in a brand new stadium goes away?”
I do but ownership would never do that. They are against the little man, the common fan they want the bankers and CEO’s sitting down there not Joe and Mike from the Bronx.
I’m glad the Yankees won today. Not so glad that they got owned by Pavano for six+ innings. I love how AJ can keep the team in the game even without his best stuff. In fact, his control was awful today, but I still never got that feeling that it was over (unlike with poor Wang these days). Wang shouldn’t be allowed to make the start in Boston. I think the best bet is to let him go to the bullpen and work it out a little at a time.
Watching the Manager’s Show. Girardi just said it looks like they are going to go to a long man.
trisha,
Did he mention who the long man would be?
Betsy I think that maybe a little too much is being made of the 20 hr’s this series…..I haven’t been to the new place yet, but my question to those that have, is there alot of wind inside the great hall ???…If so, then they may need to seal the catherdral arches…I suspect nothing is going to happen until the old building is taken down….But it does seem to play differently….Lat night there was a link that compared the two parks, and there is some slight alterations…One thing is for certain the rf wall seems lower….As I stated last night, when the remodeled Stadium opened there was the same outcry about it being a haven for hr’s…..But I have to say that Jorge’s hr, wasn’t hit on the good wood at all….Must have had great backspin….
Gardner’s swing looks a lot like Damon’s, only Damon has mastered it. I remember last year Damon, with Girardi and Long, worked with Gardner. BG’s taking too many pitches. They don’t respect him, they go right at him so he’s always 0-1, 0-2. He needs to be more agressive early in the count and swing at some of the 1st and 2nd pitches. That is one of the adjustments Long had him make in his 2nd stint last year and it helped. Constantly being 0-2 means he’s in “defensive swing mode”. Some of the best pitches he gets are 1st and 2nd pitches and he keeps taking them.
Free Booze
April 19th, 2009 at 5:31 pm
So who wants to start a petition for the yankees to lower ticket prices so the embarrassment of having hundreds of open seats in a brand new stadium goes away?
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If you’re embarrassed by a few empty seats in a ballpark, then you’ve got some severe psychological issues that may not be able to be fixed without years of treatment. I suggest you seek help immediately.
trisha – I am panic proof.
April 19th, 2009 at 5:49 pm
Watching the Manager’s Show. Girardi just said it looks like they are going to go to a long man.
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He said they might have to if the starters keep getting knocked out early. They’ll get the rotation straightened out.
Randy Johnson was sparling with 7 innings of 1 hit ball. 2 walks, 7 strikeouts. Sadly, his 296th win is still in doubt. One inning to go. 1-0 SF
***sparkling*** with 7 innings
“So who wants to start a petition for the yankees to lower ticket prices so the embarrassment of having hundreds of open seats in a brand new stadium goes away?”
Personally, I LOVE seeing all the empty seats. Trost & Co. deserve the embarrassment those empty seats create.
anyone else having issues with this site from their Google Chrome browser?
Haha psychological issues? Nope not really. You should leave your computer more often though then and spend some time with family and friends. The front office sent me email after email about a “Stadium that was fan friendly” and the fans can’t even afford to get into it. This stadium is corporation and home run friendly, fan friendly it lacks.
How is Google Chrome DT? I have it, yet never use it. I worry about pop-up ads
Using Firefox and no problems here
The bullpen is going to work itself out.The Yankees have a ton of options.
It’s easy to jettison Veras, and Marte – three-year deal or not – won’t be put in critical situations unless he proves trustworthy.
Melancon, who threw another scoreless 1.2 innings today, should be up by mid-May. Alby gives the team a solid sinker pitcher who can induce groundballs.
If Bruney can keep up his dominating performance, you’ve got a clear cut 8th inning man.
Mix in Robertson and Coke and you’ve got a young powerful bridge to Rivera.
The only long man they can go with is Aceves. Otherwise they need to make a 40 man roster move. I guess we’ll have to see if Nady’s injury requires him to go on the 60 DL.
Then I would put my money on Jason Johnson. Maybe Brett Tompko, but he’s been used in short relief so he may need some time to be ready for long relief.
“How is Google Chrome DT? I have it, yet never use it. I worry about pop-up ads Using Firefox and no problems here”
I use Chrome exclusively. After the game was over, I went out for a bit, came back and hit refresh and Chrome gives me a warning about the site containing malware.
Tried a few other sites, no problem.
I jumped over to IE, to type this.
DT
April 19th, 2009 at 6:34 pm
anyone else having issues with this site from their Google Chrome browser?
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I’m having more issues with my refrigerator not having any beer in it.
rconn,
All correct points. It usually takes a month or two to sort out roles in a pen.
Look at TB and Boston. They’re having pen issues. Indians pen blew two games to us.
Sometime in May we’ll see Melancon and Robertson start to become assets in the pen, either through demotion, release, or injury.
It’s very cool to see Bruney develop into such a valuable and trusted player.
Just got back from game. Good game after the 6th inning. Very lame crowd, lots of empty seats. Disappointing to see they will have to do something about that.
Don’t know if it was discussed we were not, at least I was not booing AJ for giving up the homerun. it was out of frustration with the number of homeruns that are given up in this park.
Also it looked to us like AJ was getting squeezed, He was getting pitches called balls that Pavano was getting called strikes.
Avast anti-virus is giving me a warning. I’m using Firefox, though, and not Chrome.
DT April 19th, 2009 at 6:48 pm
“How is Google Chrome DT? I have it, yet never use it. I worry about pop-up ads Using Firefox and no problems here”
I use Chrome exclusively. After the game was over, I went out for a bit, came back and hit refresh and Chrome gives me a warning about the site containing malware.
Tried a few other sites, no problem.
I jumped over to IE, to type this.
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That’s not good. Lemme try this site using Chrome. Might as well see if I have the same problem.
I’m getting the AVAST warning too. I’m on Vista.
I’m on Firefox and getting an “Acrobat plug-in not allowed” window every time I refresh the page.
I’m getting a strange warning about an evil script from iexplorer.
And there’s another error message about the site trying to load up a .pdf
I just tried to open this site with Chrome and I get this big old warning about Malware. That’s not good
I’m back on firefox
Pete’s site has cooties?
circle circle dot dot
My computer now has it’s cootie shot
“Nothing is wrong . . . I watched the video and everything is the same as last year.”
If that’s true, then I was right, and the league’s figured him out totally, and he no business starting for the Yankees.
But maybe something was lost in translation. Wang can’t possibly be the PR wreck he’s come off as so far this season. Or can he?
so here are the matchups we should see in the yankees red sox series next weekend
friday: burnett vs. beckett
saturday: pettitte vs. lester
sunday: sabathia vs. masterson
feel good about sending those three guys up there.
“Chrome gives me a warning about the site containing malware.”
Chrome does not approve of insult comedy.
Beckett will still be suspended for friday’s game. They’re moving him back one day. So it will be Burnett or Wang vs. Lester, Pettitte vs. Beckett, Sabathia vs. Masterson
Gotta love the matchup for sunday.
Melancon with another stellar performance today. I hope they bring him up in May. I just don’t really see what else he has to prove. He’s been getting stretched out for over a year now. Going 2-3 innings an appearance. If Bruney stays consistent (not even as great as he has been the last 5 times out) the pen looks great all of a sudden.
Now any close game the team is winning you’ll see this:
Starter 6+ innings
Melancon 7th if needed
Bruney 8th
Rivera 9th
And if the team is lucky enough to make the playoffs, right now I think your rotation has to be
CC
Burnett
Pettitte
Wang or Hughes
Shift Joba to the pen (only for the playoffs!) and add him to Melancon Bruney Rivera.
Not bad.
You’re right KP. So we’ll have Burnett vs. Lester on Friday (I refuse to believe the Yankees will allow Wang to pitch the opening game of Yankees Red Sox after what he’s shown his last three starts). I much rather see Burnett in their attacking the Sox with his fastball.
Too bad Joba isn’t pitching. Youkilis would definitely be getting some sweet chin music. Haha.
I really don’t understand how Wang doesn’t see anything wrong with the way he’s pitching. That is a huge problem. I don’t think there is anyway you can let him pitch especially if he doesn’t think he is doing anything wrong.
I’m sure when Joe hears that it will only affirm their decision to push him back.
jennifer “We want Swisher”
I don’t think Wang means he isn’t pitching well, it is that he doesn’t see anything different in his windup and delivery from last year’s films. He said his pitches are hanging up and not sinking.
I believe he might be too rested. LOL! A sinkerball pitcher almost needs a tired arm or they have too much pop on the pitches and they stay high. I am sure the Yankees will try to fix this problem even if Nardi has to fly to NY to do it!
ray- But they’ve found problems with his delivery/arm angle, etc.
So it is more than just not being tired.
Spankees answered the gut check…sweet…
Betsy wrote: “Pete wrote an article this spring about how AJ is reading a book by Harvey Dorfman – a noted sports psychologist.”
I hadn’t noticed that until you mentioned it. It’s a nice piece. Pete’s long-form technique is getting better and better – perhaps analogous to AJ’s growth as a pitcher.
Link: http://www.lohud.com/article/2...../903200387
Re: empty seats: Don’t know if this was mentioned already (there are over 1200 comments here). Today’s announced attendance was 43,000 something. On a Sunday afternoon, opening series of the new stadium, Indians. Enough said.
What’s wrong with Wang?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H3aOc2OoeUw
watch!!!