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Posted by: Peter Abraham - Posted in Misc on Apr 22, 2009 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

How far does the class warfare extend in Yankee Stadium? All the way to the men’s room.

According to the charmingly titled Fack Youk blog, there are dividers between the urinals in the field level bathrooms but not in the bathrooms elsewhere in the stadium.

It’s astonishing that somebody had a meeting to decide this. But apparently they did.

Somebody needs to investigate the quality of the toilet paper. I’d bet anything the field level seats have two ply and everybody else gets recycled sandpaper.

Meanwhile, I heard an interesting theory from somebody with the Yankees on Tuesday. They claim that many of those empty seats we’re seeing are actually sold, but the ticket-holders are afraid to attend games because they work for troubled businesses and don’t want to be caught living it up on television.

That’s just great. The seats are so extravagant that wealthy people won’t attend because it’ll make them look bad. Maybe the Yankees can provide disguises to these folks. Your bank get bailed out by the feds? Here’s a Joe Girardi mask. Have a good time.

During batting practice today, there were waitresses walking around with huge silver trays of M&Ms, Twizzlers and other treats. Those in the Legends seats get that stuff for free. The girls were standing around looking for people to give the candy out to. It was like bizarro Halloween.

You know what sucks? When I was a kid, I used to implore my dad to get to the game as early as possible so I could run down the aisle to the field and try and get an autograph. I’d get jammed in there with other kids and pray that somebody, anybody, in uniform would sign.

My theory was to go to the visitor’s dugout because there were fewer kids. I got Duane Kuiper, Johnny Grubb and Buddy Bell that way one day. It was like winning the autograph lottery. I remember going back to our seats in the grandstand happy as can be.

That the Yankees won’t allow that is really a shame. Instead you have Richie Rich eating M&Ms and sending his driver over to ask for Jeter’s bat.

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202 Responses to “Want privacy? Pay for it”

  1. Boston Dave April 22nd, 2009 at 1:54 am

    this is the worst part about the new stadium

    I don’t mind charging people more for the best seats but this petty stuff is disturbing.

  2. m April 22nd, 2009 at 2:00 am

    Boston Dave,

    From the previous thread. No one’s trying to take credit for anything re: AJ. I just wanted to correct what I felt was revisionist history. I did back off my immediate claims by saying most of the reasonable posters were on board with the decision.

    But, as pat mentioned, there were a few of us who thought if it was good enough for the players, it was good enough for us.

    And the whole addition by subtraction thing? A thing of beauty.

  3. Ed - Swisher is awesome!! April 22nd, 2009 at 2:02 am

    previous thread:

    Nick, pat, mel:

    Wang speaks Taiwanese, its like a 3rd dialect of the Chinese language. However I think Taiwanese is the same as Mandarian. I for one, speak Cantonese but hearing other dialects is just another language for me. If I’m surrounded with Mandarian speakers, I’m thinking what the heck did you just speak?

  4. m April 22nd, 2009 at 2:04 am

    Ed,

    It’s amazing how they’re all different languages, really.

  5. Ed - Swisher is awesome!! April 22nd, 2009 at 2:07 am

    Mel,

    no kidding. I only know how to speak a couple of words in Mandarian. My whole family knows it but I’m just an outkast. lol

  6. Uncle Ellsworth April 22nd, 2009 at 2:08 am

    Dual saw is amazing!

  7. Pat M April 22nd, 2009 at 2:08 am

    The Yankee Front Office must value their vip seats as though there Laker courtside seats….I’d love to say Knick courtside, but that was some years ago, and looks like some years from now….

  8. number18 April 22nd, 2009 at 2:10 am

    if you’re so afraid to sit in your seats…. GIVE THEM TO SOMEBODY!!!!!

    its as easy as that….. give them to a charity… give them to a friend…

    if you’re a season ticket holder, you have the option to donate tickets to any game you cannot attend to the boys and girls club of america, and all you have to do is logon to your online account via yankees.com and click a button!!!!

    im sure these people would appreciate the seats…. i have donated mine a couple of times before when something came up and i couldn’t find someone to take my seats…

    not attending cause you’re afraid to be seen on tv is BULL! donate your tickets……. come on morons!

  9. bru April 22nd, 2009 at 2:10 am

    all this rich,spoiled crap i have been hearing about the new stadium makes me ashamed to be a yankee fan.

    the yankees pushed the real fans far far away to the point they can’t be heard.

    it is sickening.i don’t get the yankees on tv & i don’t even care anymore.

    let the seats stay empty.

  10. Nick in SF April 22nd, 2009 at 2:10 am

    Ed: Wang is a native Taiwanese, but he speaks Mandarin as well. But they’re not the same. When I taught English there I had a Chinese co-teacher who spoke Mandarin but didn’t understand Taiwanese. She would yell “no Taiwanese!” at the kids. It was cute.

  11. bru April 22nd, 2009 at 2:11 am

    i was given tickets to wednesdays game & didn’t go.

  12. Ed - Swisher is awesome!! April 22nd, 2009 at 2:12 am

    Nick, I would do the same if I don’t understand another dialect. lol

  13. Ed - Swisher is awesome!! April 22nd, 2009 at 2:13 am

    “i was given tickets to wednesdays game & didn’t go.”

    so you from the future? wow, so did the Yanks won tomorrow’s game?

  14. KO April 22nd, 2009 at 2:14 am

    and i love how just because some people have a ton of money and can afford those seats that makes them “not real” yankee fans?? LOL

  15. m April 22nd, 2009 at 2:14 am

    Two things.

    Nick is a teacher? Oi.

    Second, Pat M. Speaking of those yellow & purple front row seats, are you missing the games because you’re recovering from your surgery? I saw that you’re home-bound. :( Also, keep up your Yoda-like posts. They’re classic!

  16. Nick in SF April 22nd, 2009 at 2:15 am

    bru, you are a true martyr. Thanks for sharing.

  17. Nick in SF April 22nd, 2009 at 2:16 am

    m: I am not a teacher now. I was then, there.

  18. m April 22nd, 2009 at 2:18 am

    Ah, the children are safe. :)

    I should’ve known. Teachers don’t travel as much as you do.

  19. Uncle Ellsworth April 22nd, 2009 at 2:20 am

    No Justice! No Seats!

  20. Pat M April 22nd, 2009 at 2:25 am

    m, Yes I’m a no show for the first and second rounds….Yoda like posts ??? I’ll take that as a compliment….I’m at home working on my checker game….I do like you m, you have a great vibe…..Plus you know baseball…..

  21. m April 22nd, 2009 at 3:07 am

    Pat M,

    You give me too much credit. I’m a novice at this baseball stuff. But I do love the game and soak up all the stuff written on the interwebs like a sponge. Although, I usually disregard what the talking heads say. :)

  22. james April 22nd, 2009 at 3:14 am

    When the Yankees sucked back in the early 90′s the company my dad worked for had season tickets that no one wanted to use. So they gave them a way (went to a lot of games that way). That’s what rich people and companies do when they have tickets they don’t wanna use. So people would be in those seats if they were sold (at least more of them anyway)

    Also Mike Francesca been saying the Yankees have been telling him they are not sold because rich people don’t wanna be seen buying them and they tell Pete rich people bought them but don’t wanna be seen using them——me thinks the Yankees are Bean Shooters

  23. Rich April 22nd, 2009 at 3:27 am

    Makes me sick to hear this stuff…give the seats away if you are “scared” to show up. Ridiculous. When are the true fans gonna get their rewards in modern sports?

  24. Giuseppe Franco April 22nd, 2009 at 3:52 am

    I’ve never been a class warfare kind of guy so I think all the complaining and so called embarrassed by the empty seats in the box section is kind of laughable.

    These people are hypocrites. Everyone on this board would love to be rich and have the money to spend $2500 to spend on a ticket to a ballgame.

    Millions of people buy lottery tickets for a reason. They want to be rich, too.

    The market will fix this issue. If not enough people are going to the games and filling up those seats – the Yanks will lower their prices.

    It’s as simple as that. They may find a way to do that this season.

    But people who are “embarrassed” because the team only drew 41,000 fans on a cold and rainy weeknight with the A’s in town should find another team to root for. You won’t be missed.

    Name another team that draws that many fans on a night like tonight – new ballpark or not.

    The Yanks are the only team that can do it. We’ll see the place filled up regularly as the weather warms up.

  25. 12345 April 22nd, 2009 at 3:57 am

    oh my god empty seats empty seats how embarrassing. anyone who is disappointed by 40,000 fans at the stadium should take a look at some of the games from the late 80′s/early 90′s. whiny cry baby fans is all you people are

  26. Pick April 22nd, 2009 at 4:17 am

    the empty seats make me as a fan happy. parking, getting out of the stadium in a timely manner and traffic home(back to CT) has not been a nightmare at all this year!

    the fact that it’s quiet during the game has not.

  27. Shanghai Bob April 22nd, 2009 at 4:26 am

    Enough with the whining about the new stadium Pete. We get it. The expensive seats are not sold out. And the expensive seats have access to nicer urinals. BIG DEAL.

    Unless you haven’t noticed there is big recession going on and attendance is down around the league. End of Story. How about more stories about stuff that happens on the field….

  28. Larry G April 22nd, 2009 at 6:22 am

    Well what did you expect, since 95 the bandwagoners were all those rich exec’s and their corporations that have taken over the best seats in the house. At the home opener they didn’t even know who to applaud when the Yanks marched out the old timers.
    Ticket prices have become a joke. I know prices go up and that free enterprise is what makes the USA great, but I can’t even imagine paying the prices that the Yanks are expecting for the good seats, and I would have to say most of the working class feels the same.
    1975 or so tickets for seats behind the Yankees dougout maybe ten rows back were about $14.50 per, kids were allowed to climb out on the yanks dougout before the game and and try to grab an autograph.
    One time my cousin at Shea climbed out and got Gil Hodges autograph, and no one made a fuss. I am really sorry to see what has happend to Baseball.

  29. William April 22nd, 2009 at 6:27 am

    It’s really incredible how the media is using this Stadium to play the class warfare card. General Patton would be proud. The fact is that these seats were priced before the economy turned sour, and in spite of that, most are sold. Either the economy will rebound or the Yankees will have to make an adjustment. Having said that, from an economic perspective, having empty seats isn’t such a bad thing. Selling one $2,500 seats is the same as selling 10 $250 seats, so it’s easy to do the math. As a “regular fan” with a seat in the grandstand, I really don’t care who is seating in those seats. The way some people are telling it, you’d think that the children from St. Mary’s School for Families of Four Who Can’t Afford to Go to Baseball Games were the normal inhabitants of the prime seats at the old Yankee Stadium.

    Also, I really hope all the people whining over the Yankees selfish desire to make a lot of money aren’t the same ones who demanded Sabathia…and then demanded Burnett…and then insisted on Teixeira…not to mention the ones who will scream for Holliday in June. Apparently, everyone wants the Yankees to spend through the nose, but not worry about how to pay for it? That strikes me as entitlement…not urinal dividers.

  30. William April 22nd, 2009 at 6:30 am

    Larry G…it’s not what has happened to baseball…it’s what has happened to society (for better or worse). If the same conditions you described existed today, that $14.50 seat would be on eBay for $250 and the Gil Hodges autograph for probably double that. It’s nice to harken back to the wholesome days of youth, but we live in a different world.

  31. cheshirecat9 April 22nd, 2009 at 6:31 am

    Pete I am glad you mentioned this about the bathrooms. I noticed that too when I was at the Stadium. Not only are there no dividers up in the “cheap” seats (and by the way, I don’t consider $45 to see a baseball game cheap) but the urinals in the upped bathrooms are smaller. It really bothered me. This park was built to cater to the rich. They need to improve this.

  32. Yankee U April 22nd, 2009 at 6:57 am

    If these people are afraid to go to their seats I have and idea. I’ll trade my ticket for theirs. That way they get to go to the game, I get an upgrade in seat and the Yanks have lesss empty seats on TV. That’s a win win win.

  33. Yankee U April 22nd, 2009 at 6:58 am

    My only problem in the bathrooms is they pipe in the radio.
    Susan Waldmans voice, talk about a frightened turtle.

  34. Mark in Tampa April 22nd, 2009 at 7:00 am

    All those who opine for the glory days of Donnie Baseball and cheap baseball tickets should look at some of the highlights of his homeruns. On his 1983-1987 teams, all of which contended, with the ’85 team winning 97 games; Mattingly’s home runs into right field bounced around the empty seats until a couple of kids would come running over to try to find the ball. Not just the upper deck either, but the Jeffrey Meier seats right behind the wall as well. Sure, the empty luxury seats look bad, but they will fill up as supply and demand causes the prices to come down.

  35. Bad Scooter April 22nd, 2009 at 7:05 am

    This is getting out of control, so now Gardner is going to get criticized after making a nice catch? He’s getting Arod treatment as far as overanalyzing. Every step this guy takes is under the microscope, it’s funny.

    That ball Giambi hit was directly over his head. If you ever played any baseball in your life, those are pretty hard balls to judge off the bat. Give the guy credit instead of reviewing the play over and over in slo-mo to see how his jump was and what route he took. He made the play and it was a tough play because of where the ball was hit.

  36. Doreen April 22nd, 2009 at 7:11 am

    Pete, love the anecdotes, especially the one about AJ learning Chinese. It must have been very funny to hear, and it’s great it got a laugh from CMW and his press corps.

    I’m thinking of Yankees classics games I’ve seen on YES that were from the WS-winning 1970′s teams, and thinking that there were a lot of empty seats then. I think the difference is the empties were more spread out and more likely to be in the upper decks. However, I don’t think that means that people were actually buying the better seats and filling them up first. Back then, if you tipped the ushers, you could actually improve upon the seat you had purchased, once the game had started, and sometimes beforehand if the usher knew that certain people would not be coming to the game.

    There are “class’ differences everywhere. Think of hotels. You can stay at the No-Tell Motel and barely get a towel, or you can stay at the Ritz and get chocolates on your pillow. It may not be “fair,” but the people getting chocolate paid for that chocolate. The people who get divided urinals paid for divided urinals.

    I think if there is any “argument” or “debate” to be had here it would be whether a ballpark is a place where such conspicuous economic divisions should be evident.

    The ticket prices will be adjusted if people aren’t buying them at the current price. They will never come down enough to make everyone happy or to make them available to everybody, but just enough so that more will sell. I hate seeing such good seats go to waste, though. I think it’s a great suggestion that until something is done, that unsold seats should be donated. But what do you do about the seats that were sold and those people are just not going?

    I can’t wait to go to the stadium myself. It sounds like most of you who have been there have actually enjoyed yourselves and were generally pleased with the stadium. There are always going to be people who focus on the negative. I’ll choose to “let it be.”

  37. Doreen April 22nd, 2009 at 7:14 am

    Also, because games didn’t sell out, you could go to the ticket office day of game and get good seats. I doubt that happens too much these days.

  38. Wang IS Taiwan April 22nd, 2009 at 7:21 am

    What idiots are running this organization? Talk about ZERO judgment.

  39. bru April 22nd, 2009 at 7:47 am

    Nick in SF
    April 22nd, 2009 at 2:15 am
    bru, you are a true martyr. Thanks for sharing
    ————————————————————

    n/p

  40. The Dude April 22nd, 2009 at 7:49 am

    All I’ll say about the new Yankee stadium is that one of my first memories about it are an usher telling me that, 2 hours before gametime, I couldn’t take my son down to the field to watch warmups because my tickets weren’t good enough. Beautiful? Sure. But the feeling? Blech.

  41. howard April 22nd, 2009 at 7:49 am

    As i told a friend last night, I hear they’re going to fix the jet stream so that the wind ensures that foul balls will only go to those seated in the lowest level.

  42. bru April 22nd, 2009 at 7:54 am

    Bad Scooter
    April 22nd, 2009 at 7:05 am
    This is getting out of control, so now Gardner is going to get criticized after making a nice catch? He’s getting Arod treatment as far as overanalyzing. Every step this guy takes is under the microscope, it’s funny.

    That ball Giambi hit was directly over his head. If you ever played any baseball in your life, those are pretty hard balls to judge off the bat. Give the guy credit instead of reviewing the play over and over in slo-mo to see how his jump was and what route he took. He made the play and it was a tough play because of where the ball was hit.

    ———————————————————-

    the problem with the yankees is for 209-214 million dollars this team should be a lot better than it is.deeper also.

    to many overpaid players.
    i like gardner but he belongs on a small market team.

    when the rays are as good or almost as good with one quarter the payroll of the yankees it is sad.

    we do look a lot better than in the past with a lot of promise in the minors but we should at least be solid in cf & at the dh spot for 209 million dollars.

  43. William April 22nd, 2009 at 7:56 am

    The Dude…you’ve hit on the most legitimate issue raised. Not allowing fans access to the field level several hours before the game is unnecessary. It doesn’t impact the Yankees bottom line, but does decrease the fan experience. I am pretty sure this policy will be relaxed eventually, but if the media would hone in on issues like this, instead of urinal dividers, it would be corrected sooner than later.

  44. William April 22nd, 2009 at 7:58 am

    “when the rays are as good or almost as good with one quarter the payroll of the yankees it is sad.”
    —————————————————————————————

    The Rays are almost as good with 1/4 the payroll BECAUSE they were awful for 10 years and picked at the top of the draft as a result. If you are suggesting the Yankees should tank the next decade so they can accumulate cheap, high level talent, then you have a point. Otherwise, there is nothing sad about the comparison.

  45. Doreen April 22nd, 2009 at 8:06 am

    In recent years, how many players actually sign autographs during BP anyway?

    And I believe it’s the adult collectibles industry that’s ruined this childhood ritual more than anything else.

  46. jennifer April 22nd, 2009 at 8:28 am

    Pete FYI, many ‘rich’ people are afraid to walk around with bags from designer stores. They ask for plain brown bags. So it isn’t that far fetched.

  47. Matt April 22nd, 2009 at 8:31 am

    The point about autographs is the one complaint I have had about going to Yankee games since I was eight years old. I’ve been to at least 40 Yankee games in my life and have never gotten ONE autograph at a game. I went to Fenway in June of ’07 and got three in one night (Todd Helton, Brad Hawpe, Chris Iannetta). They’re much more lax about that stuff up in Fenway for some reason.

  48. bru April 22nd, 2009 at 8:38 am

    William

    everybody on this planet knows that the yankees get less for their buck than any other team in any sport every year.

    this is called not spending money wisely.

    keep in mind also that the yankees overpay prospects every year wich puts them not as far back as you think than the rays as far as drafting.

    we gave arod 30 million a year for 10 yrs when he came begging back to the yankees when we knew he could of been on the steroids list.
    he should of been given 6 yrs/180 at the most.the list goes on and on.

    i will always love the yankees but they make it hard sometimes.

    when you have the true fans being pushed out of the stadium & being treated like secong hand citizens & wealthier people going to the game because they have to or now not going it is upsetting.

    what kind of true fan stays away from the game because their company got bailed out by our goverment?

    everybody is complaining about this,not just me.
    absolutely terrible job by the yankees.
    i just hope it get’s fixed.

    the yankees were doing fine the last several years by winning games.now they wan’t to turn on the fans that made them what they are.

  49. Jonathan April 22nd, 2009 at 8:43 am

    Last year during the last series at the stadium I went out and got very expensive seats right at the foul pole line

    And i must say it sucked not being able to enjoy my seat when i got there early because 100000 people were around trying to get autographs and things. I don’t mind a hand full but it wasn’t fun for me who paid so much to enjoy the game.

  50. Whatever April 22nd, 2009 at 8:45 am

    As a little kid in the 1960′s, my Dad and I and a fair share of the entire ballpark left the Stadium via the outfield warning track one Sunday, which was pretty common back in the day. There I was 8 years old or so, thinking, “am I possibly walking the same territory that Ruth and DiMaggio once roamed?” Little ole me? Forty years later, I still remember the feeling.

    As long as they had the old park, the Yankees could be the biggest corporate SOB’s on the planet, but they still had something special, and the Steinbrenners and corporate stooges like Randy Levine could be protected from their own worst instincts. Now that they have built their own place, they are on their own, and what they are cultivating now (love of spreadsheets? the Disneyfication of baseball?) is going to define them for what they are, which is probably the ultimate miscalculation on their part.

  51. Michael April 22nd, 2009 at 8:51 am

    Hey Peter,

    I was very disappointed when I attended the first expedition game and was unable to get close to the anywhere in the field level due to my ticket for a different level. A least in the old ballpark you were able to get close along the outfield. A few years ago when Mark Texiera and Soranio played for Texas I was able to get there autographs while waiting near the visitor dugout. Its one of my favorite signed balls.

  52. Paul April 22nd, 2009 at 8:54 am

    Do the elite get better toys in their Crackerjacks at the New Stadium?

  53. William April 22nd, 2009 at 8:56 am

    Bru

    Speak for yourself because your argument is not based in fact. The Yankees do not simply spend money to win games; they spend money to make money. No matter how much money you spend, the ebb and flow of baseball is not going to reward you with many more than 100 wins. What the Yankees’ spending affords them, however, is consistent success, which has become the foundation upon which they have built a very popular and lucrative brand. If you think the Yankees are not getting a bang for their buck, I’d suggest you are leaving way too many factors out of the equation.

    The notion that the Yankees are turning on their fans is facile. Everyone who has argued against the point has presented logical arguments disputing the claim, but I guess that wont stop people from throwing out baseless claims. If it makes you feel better to engage in class warfare, so be it.

  54. ron ron April 22nd, 2009 at 8:57 am

    i love how the yankees refused to try and be anywhere near fair with me when they gave me the ‘relocation’ package for my partial plan. didn’t return calls, etc, treated me like i wasn’t ‘worthy’ to talk to them, and now in the past 2 days, some super friendly guy has called me, twice, because i’m you know a loyal yankee fan, and asked if i’d like to talk about some ‘amazing deals’ on legends seats. it’s funny though this really is a zeitgeist moment for them, i think a lot of people are really turned off, and they’re going to lose a lot of fans over this. maybe not this season, but i’d take a guess that ratings will go down, etc over the next few years. i remember in the 80s the yanks were clearly the #2 team in the city. it could happen again, arrogance doesn’t play well in times like these.

  55. ron ron April 22nd, 2009 at 9:01 am

    and to all these people saying how it’s ‘class warfare’ first of all, i am a registered republican (albeit reformed, who voted for obama) and lives in a vaguely snobbish central park west doorman building. i enjoy privilege, believe me. but the yankees are sort of a public entity. all MLB teams have special status granted by congress and let’s not forget that the stadium was primarily public financed. a sports team is not something that is only for the wealthy, nor should be. if that’s their business plan, they will have a rough go of it.

  56. PBSG April 22nd, 2009 at 9:25 am

    The whole “rich dont want to be seen” is such a cop out and highly egotistical. You could line up the top 100 Wall Street crooks and not many people would be able to name them or their job title.

    I see MLB is pushing their “Welcome Back Veterans” campaign. Why not donate the tickets directly to that organization and make it a tax deductible item? Let someone in the Yankees FO hand out the tickets to a soldier whenever they are available? A veteran gets to see a free game with his family in nice seats, DFA Ransom, MLB can do a presser on it, DFA Ransom, Yankees fill those seats, DFA Ransom, rich people get their deduction, DFA Ransom – Its a win across the board.

  57. youngtimer April 22nd, 2009 at 9:33 am

    You’re right ronron, a lot of people are turned off. It’s not okay to alienate your 20+ years, 30+ years, 40+ years fanbase. That’s stupid. It doesn’t matter if you call it class warfare or not or if you believe the market will correct itself. The Yankees have treated their fanbase poorly for a number of years, often seemingly without any reason at all. We all get it, it’s a business. That doesn’t mean it can operate without customer service. And if you think that only rich people deserve customer service, well than your stadium should be on Park Avenue and not in the Bronx.

    It’s getting tougher and tougher to make the distinction between the team and the front office, because not watching the team, not buying the merch, not going to games, is the only recourse we have. But how many times can you get slapped in the face and say, please do it again, because I love you? Screw that. MLB has been bad to fans and to players basically whenever it wants, look at its history. You could say this is the true tradition. That doesn’t mean that one day a fan won’t stand up and say, I’ve had enough. Yankee pride? Right now the Yankees have nothing to be proud of. Bottom line is baseball is just a game and we could all get along without it. What we can’t get along without is treating other people fairly, like they matter. Now that’s something to be proud of. If you don’t want to do that, then yes I believe that your business should go down the toilet. /rant

  58. Jeremy April 22nd, 2009 at 9:51 am

    Are you serious Pete!?!

    I honestly thought the bathrooms in the new stadium were the best designed stadium bathroom I have ever been in. Most venues have urinals on one side and sinks on the other. The Stadium has an entire room of urinals with them on 3 walls! There were plenty of urinals and no lines. The bathroom was designed to get people in, piss, and get back to you seats. (Or get back to the vendors to spend more money). Regardless, was not concerned about not having a divider. Especially if having no dividers means fitting more urinals in the joint.

  59. Frank0923 April 22nd, 2009 at 10:51 am

    I think Jeremy works for the Yankees. Why would anyone be excited about these lousy bathrooms or defend the Yankees on the divider issue? There is no way dividers take up enough space that they would have to put in less urinals. You can easily fit a divider between every urinal in the upper deck.

  60. FormerBOX607 April 22nd, 2009 at 11:16 am

    Two quick points.

    No one cares about dividers between the urinals. There never were any before. BUT they should have (and dont have) a divider at the end of the rows of urinals in the center of the mens room. So if you are on the end, you are exposed to everyone waiting at the front of the room and to the attendant who was just sitting there watching people pee. Kind of creepy.

    As for the mystery of the “sold” seats. Its all B.S. those seats arent sold. Just go on Yankees.com and click on season tickets and you can buy seats almost anywhere behind the plate and now they are offering those seats on any type of prorated plan they can get. 15 game, 20 game, whatever, when they would only sell them on a Full Season basis before.

    Fact is, no one wants to pay $350-$500-$25000 per game and not be immediately right next to the dugout or behind the plate in the first two rows. $350 per game to sit in the main behind the plate is outrageous, and the Yankees have found that out.

  61. Frank0923 April 22nd, 2009 at 11:37 am

    Speak for yourself Formerbox607. A lot of people do care about dividers. It would be different if none of the bathrooms had them, but why should only the lower deck have them? In the grand scheme of things, how much more would it have cost them to put them in every bathroom? Even if it was $500,000 (which is a high estimate for some small pieces of plastic/wood), that is practically nothing on a 1,500,000,000 billion dollar stadium.

    I’d like to hear their explanation on why they decided only lower level fans should be entitled to dividers. I hope a newspaper picks up this story so the Yankees have to answer to it publicly.

  62. Buttsauce April 22nd, 2009 at 12:30 pm

    That is absolutely disgraceful.

  63. saucY April 22nd, 2009 at 1:03 pm

    “The Yankee Front Office must value their vip seats as though there Laker courtside seats….”

    what does this mean?

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