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The latest on the injuries

Posted by: Peter Abraham - Posted in Misc on Apr 25, 2009 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Brian Bruney was sent back to NY to get his elbow checked. It was bothering him on Wednesday which is why he didn’t pitch. Then he felt it again today.

Cody Ransom has a strained right quad. There’s a tear to some degree. He’s going on the DL. The Yankees will get an infielder here tomorrow and will need to make a 40-man move to do so. Brian Cashman said he needed to talk to Dave Miley, the Scranton manager. One would think Angel Berroa gets the call.

“I have to pull a rabbit out of my hat,” Cashman said.

As for Chien-Ming Wang, the Yankees are claiming he has an issue with his hips that is related to his foot injury and that accounts for his velocity and command issues. Cashman said he would need two weeks of physical therapy but would continue throwing. I would think Wang is gone for a month and once he gets a few minor-league games under his belt, he’ll be back.

David Robertson will be here tomorrow. Then they’ll need a starter on Tuesday. Phil Hughes? We’ll see.

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242 Responses to “The latest on the injuries”

  1. Sal April 25th, 2009 at 12:21 am

    Hey Pete,

    The one problem I have with Robertson instead of Melancon is, forget about the 40-man spot, Robertson/Claggett/Jackson all came up over this past week. By not bringing up Melancon, the organization is not putting the best team forward.

    Maybe I am overrating Melancon but if they really think so highly of him and why wouldn’t they his number are ridiculous, then how is keeping him in AAA for whatever the reason, helping this team in not only the short-term but long-term as well especially whether or not Bruney’s injury is serious.

  2. jennifer "We want Swisher" April 25th, 2009 at 12:21 am

    Never a dull moment in Yankeeville. Here we thought we’d only hear about Wang going on the dl for a phantom injury, and we have 2 players going on it.

    Hopefully Brian resisting going back to NY is a good sign. He doesn’t seem to think it is serious, but the Yankees just want to get it checked out. Hopefully it is just a day to day thing. Losing him would be a huge blow.

  3. CaptainsCorner April 25th, 2009 at 12:21 am

    It seems like Wang is going to be down for awhile. 2 weeks of just therapy, then you would figure they need to get his arm in shape. So maybe 3 or 4 starts in the minors. You are probably looking at 6 weeks until he is back. I really hope that Hughes is ready when they bring him up. They will have to bring up Tomko. With Joba and Hughes going to average 5 or 6 innings in there starts you will need a long reliever.

  4. Phil April 25th, 2009 at 12:22 am

    I’d rather reward Eric Duncan than Berroa. Sounds like Hughes will get a few turns. Sounds like Cody to the 60 to create the space.

  5. miked860 April 25th, 2009 at 12:22 am

    Damn Pete you are a blogging machine! I just saw you on TV talking to Cashman like 5 minutes ago and you already have this typed up. It’s a good thing too because I missed 75% of the interview.

  6. jennifer "We want Swisher" April 25th, 2009 at 12:22 am

    Sal- They are waiting till May 15 something to do with arbitration years. Not exactly clear. But they save a year waiting till May 5.

    Someone else on here can explain it better than I.

  7. Kyle From CT April 25th, 2009 at 12:23 am

    Hughes has been good so far, hopefully he brings that quality when he comes up.

    And hopefully ARod is ahead of schedule like everyone thinks.

  8. m April 25th, 2009 at 12:23 am

    How many are on the 25 right now? 24 right?

  9. Patrick April 25th, 2009 at 12:24 am

    Bummer.. looks like they have to DFA one of Claggett, Jackson, Hacker, Garcia, Sanchez. My money is on either 60 day DL for Sanchez or Claggett says goodbye.

  10. stuart April 25th, 2009 at 12:24 am

    If they are not going to pitch Jackson they need to send him down.

    relax all. If Bruney goes on DL it is Melancon time… He is the 8th inning guy. Look at his #’s and what the yankee brass have said about him………

    Bad bad bad loss

  11. Yankees 27 April 25th, 2009 at 12:24 am

    Kyle, after this, Arod WILL be ahead of schedule.

  12. DT April 25th, 2009 at 12:25 am

    how appropriate.

    Pete posts an injury report – and the sexy Stilletto ad has been replaced with an Aflac duck one.

    “If you are hurt and you miss work, it won’t hurt to miss work” – Yogi.

  13. Back Bench April 25th, 2009 at 12:25 am

    I’m going against the trend to point out some positives from tonight’s game:

    1. Phil Coke is back in form

    2. Joba kept the game close without his best stuff. The number of DP’s induced indicates he is learning how to pitch

    3. NYYs stayed close with the RS without our best player in the line up. Things change dramatically in our favor with Alex back

    4. David Ortiz is over. The RS are good, but no longer dominating

  14. Sal April 25th, 2009 at 12:25 am

    jennifer – I understand that that may be the case but if the organization is going to work like that, like a small market team, they should be called out on it. Melancon has nothing else to prove in the minors and he is not a 20/21 years old surprising everybody, he is 24 years old and doing exactly what people believe he can do. If they think so highly of him and possibly as the successor of Mo then that arbitration year should be a moot point.

  15. SteveB April 25th, 2009 at 12:26 am

    I hope Hughes is up to the task. It’ll be a real b*tch if he gets blown out in his first game. I hope not, of course. But I worry that everyone is putting too much pressure on him now.

    As for Melancon, I want him up too, but Robertson has had success in the big leagues and he’s on the 40-man. We’ll see Melancon soon enough.

  16. Bob(The Original) April 25th, 2009 at 12:26 am

    Toronto, Boston, Kansas City, Seattle, Florida, St. Louis, Pittsburgh, and the Dodgers.

    What do all these teams have in common?

    If the season ended today they would be the playoff teams.

    A little rationality goes a long way people.

  17. jennifer "We want Swisher" April 25th, 2009 at 12:26 am

    Yeah Sanchez, might go to the dl. i don’t believe he has pitched at all, or is close to pitching.

  18. Patrick April 25th, 2009 at 12:26 am

    “This could be just them making it up, but it’s not implausible that his hip could be acting up.”

    Yeah it could be Cashman making stuff up but it couldn’t hurt for Wang to do some PT. Hopefully it goes by quickly and we get Wang back soon.

  19. Sal April 25th, 2009 at 12:26 am

    Even if Bruney is healthy, Melancon should be up here instead of this train from Scranton to the Bronx with mediocre relief pitchers.

  20. Bronx Jeers April 25th, 2009 at 12:27 am

    “Scrambling” for replacements after 16 games and we thought the injuries were bad last season.

    We shall overcome!

    Its gotta be Berroa no? But who get’s dumped of the 40 man?

  21. Matt DiBari April 25th, 2009 at 12:28 am

    Angel Berroa will certainly make us pine for the good old days of Cody Ransom

  22. John April 25th, 2009 at 12:28 am

    What the heck is Swish wearing and why is Nady traveling and not rehabbing already?

  23. Scooter10 April 25th, 2009 at 12:29 am

    These are my guesses.

    Saturday

    Robertson for Wang
    Berroa for Ransom
    Ransom to 60 day DL (to make space for Berroa)

    After Boston Series

    Hughes for Jackson
    Melancon for Bruney (if Bruney goes on the DL)
    Sanchez to 60 day DL (to make space for Melancon)

    May 15
    Arod for Berroa (Pena stays at utility infielder)

  24. Kyle From CT April 25th, 2009 at 12:29 am

    Yankees 27,

    Agreed. Not only is Berroa a question mark, but we need AROD’s bat in there, even if he doesn’t hit in clutch situations, he adds a lot to that lineup.

    I think if Bruney goes down you have to bring Melancon up.

  25. jennifer "We want Swisher" April 25th, 2009 at 12:29 am

    Swish is so fly. Love him. Etch a sketch the loss. LOVE IT

    sal- I agree, if you need him you need him.

  26. SteveB April 25th, 2009 at 12:29 am

    Gonna walk the dog & go to sleep. But everybody, this is just one game in April. The bigger issue is Wang & Bruney. Get them straightened out, and we’ll be fine.

    I am still trying to figure out where in France this Lisfranc place is. Oh well. ;-)

    The Red Sox aren’t scary. They just beat us tonight is all.

    We’ll get them tomorrow.

  27. Sal April 25th, 2009 at 12:30 am

    “As for Melancon, I want him up too, but Robertson has had success in the big leagues and he’s on the 40-man. We’ll see Melancon soon enough.”

    In my opinion by Monday:

    Send Jackson down for Hughes

    Ransom will probably already be on the 60-day DL for Berroa

    And if you want to keep Robertson here then replace Edwar with Melancon. Don’t know if Edwar would have to be DFA’d but whatever the case is, open a spot for Melancon. I am sure there are a few guys on the 40-man that can slide through waivers.

  28. Shred Em April 25th, 2009 at 12:30 am

    Cashman: Trade for Mark Loretta!

  29. pat April 25th, 2009 at 12:32 am

    Jeter’s new BFFs killed them today.

  30. stuart April 25th, 2009 at 12:33 am

    Loretta is on the dodgers and would have retired if he could not play for his home team. I live in LA he grew up in santa monica.. no Lorette.

    Edwar is not getting sent down. If bruney go on DL then it is Melancon time

  31. m April 25th, 2009 at 12:33 am

    Scooter,

    I think Alex comes back before the 15th. And I think they’ll hold off on Melancon. Although there’s a chance we’ll see him if Bruney’s issue is serious.

  32. Bronx Jeers April 25th, 2009 at 12:33 am

    “What the heck is Swish wearing and why is Nady traveling and not rehabbing already?”

    Swish is in full camouflage to take on the full benefits of the greater Boston nightlife. I hear it’s rough there.

    Nady is waiting for his edema to subside. You know…swelling.

  33. talltenor April 25th, 2009 at 12:34 am

    Gonna see Tuesday’s game here in Detroit. Sad about Wang, who’s clearly not right, but looking forward to seeing Hughes.

  34. Joltin' Joe April 25th, 2009 at 12:34 am

    Back Bench

    How about Marte looking like a different pitcher, with emotion. even though he hiccuped on that pitch to You-kill-us, who he should have pitched around anyway.

  35. stuart April 25th, 2009 at 12:35 am

    nady can rehab on the road also

  36. jennifer-Etch A Sketch loss April 25th, 2009 at 12:35 am

    Well looks like people got what they wanted.

    Wanted Alex gone, he is gone for 6 weeks.

    Than we got Cody here, wanted him gone, now he is gone for who knows how long.

    And look who your new 3rd baseman is. Berroa, or Pena.

    I hope all the haters are happy now.

  37. Gus April 25th, 2009 at 12:35 am

    In the end who cares about Ransom . The whole deal here is Bruney obviously. Total friggen bummer if something is seriously wrong. Whenever you read elbow you worry. Maybe it is just sore needs rest. It is one thing lossing a game but the way they lost this one sucks. But in the end this pain is part of the fun.

  38. CaptainsCorner April 25th, 2009 at 12:36 am

    Hughes next starts would be against Detroit, Angels, Orioles, Toronto…Ouch

  39. lil' m April 25th, 2009 at 12:37 am

    Win or lose, I love Swish lol

  40. Gus April 25th, 2009 at 12:38 am

    Jen ,

    People who want the Yankees to win all want A-Rod back and who cares Berroa .Ransom ,Pena whats the difference ?

  41. Kyle From CT April 25th, 2009 at 12:39 am

    The only thing about Ransom is he was finally getting some big hits, not many, but enough to tolerate him. Who knows how Berroa will do. Bottom line is, regardless of who it is, we need to score with runners on. Tonight was embarrassing as far as that goes.

  42. tampayank April 25th, 2009 at 12:40 am

    I have a headache……hopefully Bruney is ok and I hope Mariano gets another save opportunity tommorow so everyone can forget about tonight….man I hate Youk

  43. Gus April 25th, 2009 at 12:40 am

    CapCorner ,
    It is MLB and we are in the NL East what do you expect.I got faith in Phil . He was the 2nd youngest guy to pitch in mlb last season i think if not he was among the youngest. He will at somepint be good. I belive

  44. stuart April 25th, 2009 at 12:40 am

    berroa or ransom is there really a difference??They both are journeyman..

  45. Gus April 25th, 2009 at 12:41 am

    Kyle,

    You are right on that Ransom had his beat game as a Yankee today. This loss really sucks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  46. pat April 25th, 2009 at 12:42 am

    Berroa is a better hitter than Ransom. It’s his fielding I’d be more worried about.

  47. CaptainsCorner April 25th, 2009 at 12:43 am

    Berroa can hit but he can not field. He does not have soft hands, as they say. We need an Arod count down on the blog..Figure he will be back about the 10th. I will be so happy to finally see him in uniform when he comes back.

  48. Jeter in LF April 25th, 2009 at 12:44 am

    The way Ransom has played losing him could benefit the team.

    On more important matters:

    It’s gut check time. I believe that the Yankees will step up.

  49. m April 25th, 2009 at 12:44 am

    Well, one thing is clear, if Bruney were available we probably would’ve won the game.

    BTW, I heard an interview of Goose Gossage (for a badass man, he’s got a girly voice!)

    Anyway, he was asked about Joba. Gossage made some great points as usual, did it when he first came up, has the energy and personality to setup and eventually close. But I was also listening to updates during Joba’s start. Sounds like it could’ve been a lot worse than 1 earned run, the infielders were quite busy today.

    So anyway, I was thinking what would make a rational person like Gossage take such a stance? Dismissing the fact that Gossage was a closer himself, I think that people were mesmerized by Joba’s relief stint in 2007. He WAS perfect for the job, and has the right personality for it.

    So the problem for Joba is that people expect Joba to be perfect. Now, if he can put up 6-7 innings of zeroes, then people will come around. But I think that first impressions are getting in the way of better judgement.

  50. Trevor April 25th, 2009 at 12:45 am

    Nady’s rehab is to just rest the elbow. He could do that by traveling with the team. So don’t expect him to leave the team until it’s time to get in some minor league games.

  51. Boston Dave April 25th, 2009 at 12:45 am

    I’d say Scooter might be pretty close there.

  52. Rebecca-Optimist Prime...Staying to Write the Story April 25th, 2009 at 12:47 am

    Ayayay, some of these posts are making my head hurt.

    1) Melancon just started throwing at AAA this year. He might well be called up sooner rather than later, but that is not necessarily a good idea. The recent history bin is full of AAA stars that couldn’t make that final jump. Melancon _should_. Doesn’t mean he will.

    2) You can’t just ‘make up’ an excuse to go on the DL without committing some sort of major fraud. If that was the case, why would Barry Zito still be allowed to pitch?

    3) don’t worry about who’s playing third for two, at mot three, more weeks.

    If you’re going to be concerned, here are the things you should be concerned about:

    1) CMW. ‘Nuff said.

    2) The past two games the Yankees have had the bases loaded, no one out, and failed to score. At the Major League level, that’s simply inexcusable.

    3) If Bruney is gone for any length of time, how to tackle the eighth. Right now, if I am Joe Girardi, my hierarchy would go something like Albaladejo-Veras-Coke-Ramirez-Marte-Jackson.

    Believe it or not, Girardi managed the bullpen well today. Albaladejo’s strike one pitch was supposed to be a throw over to first, and had Mariano caught Youkilis’s liner or gotten Bay to strike out, we’d be all smiles and laughter.

    Let’s not forget Joba walked on eggshells the entirety of this game, with all those double plays to bail him out. Whatever team won, it wasn’t a pretty thing.

  53. Boston Dave April 25th, 2009 at 12:47 am

    “Hughes next starts would be against Detroit, Angels, Orioles, Toronto…Ouch”

    ————–

    they just need him to keep them in games and go at least 6 innings.

    He’ll essentially be their 5th starter even though he’s in Wang’s spot.

    If he doesn’t feel too much pressure to be perfect, trusts his catcher and throws strikes, his stuff is good enough to accomplish that.

  54. CaptainsCorner April 25th, 2009 at 12:47 am

    As Torre starts to abuse Broxtons arm. I hope he gives up this game. It would make me feel better.

  55. pat April 25th, 2009 at 12:48 am

    Seeing Mike Lowell move around tonight makes me wonder how mobile Alex is going to be coming back. Lowell is 6 months post surgery and you can see he is still not 100%.

  56. Sal April 25th, 2009 at 12:49 am

    Just a correction Rebecca, Melancon was throwing in AAA last season as well.

  57. Kyle From CT April 25th, 2009 at 12:49 am

    I mean, either way, we’re talking a few weeks til ARod is back so I guess it doesn’t make a damn difference anyway. The main thing is Bruney. I’ve been pulling for that dude since he first came on the scene and now he’s finally hitting his stride and his elbow starts barking. Unbelievable.

  58. Boston Dave April 25th, 2009 at 12:49 am

    CaptainsCorner,

    I noticed that too. Broxton has been getting a few 5-out saves so far this season.

    If he doesn’t wear down this season, it should happen next season.

  59. bodhisattva April 25th, 2009 at 12:50 am

    Ortiz really looks shot.

  60. m April 25th, 2009 at 12:50 am

    Rebecca,

    None of those arms are very sexy.

    But I’d choose Albaladejo because he had an excellent record closing over the winter. And I think he’s less prone to BB than Edwar & Jose.

  61. Boston Dave April 25th, 2009 at 12:51 am

    “Lowell is 6 months post surgery and you can see he is still not 100%.”

    ————

    Lowell’s injury and overall health, to the best of my knowledge, was far worse than ARods.

    Lowell could not even walk to his car after games last season. ARod was playing in games but noticed a little pain.

  62. Trevor April 25th, 2009 at 12:51 am

    Melancon started throwing in AAA last year. He’s been down there awhile now.

  63. bodhisattva April 25th, 2009 at 12:51 am

    Melancon has nothing to learn in AAA. They’ll bring him here after the 15th to defer the arb a year.

  64. Betsy April 25th, 2009 at 12:52 am

    Ugh, so Hughes who isn’t ready will be called up – and not just for 1 or 2 starts. He’s going to be up for probably a month or so, with an inconsistent curve and change. I love the kid – he’s going to be a big time pitcher in the not-too distant future. This just sucks for him – I think this will set back his development.

  65. CaptainsCorner April 25th, 2009 at 12:54 am

    Lowell’s injury was worse then Arod’s. He is also 4 years older then him and Arod is in amazing shape.

  66. m April 25th, 2009 at 12:54 am

    Hughes is ready.

  67. Back Bench April 25th, 2009 at 12:57 am

    “Let’s not forget Joba walked on eggshells the entirety of this game, with all those double plays to bail him out. Whatever team won, it wasn’t a pretty thing.”

    So did Lester, and he’s their #2. Joba held his own against the RS.

  68. Jeter in LF April 25th, 2009 at 12:58 am

    m is right. Hughes is ready.

  69. Rebecca-Optimist Prime...Staying to Write the Story April 25th, 2009 at 12:58 am

    “Seeing Mike Lowell move around tonight makes me wonder how mobile Alex is going to be coming back. Lowell is 6 months post surgery and you can see he is still not 100%.”

    Not the same injury; not the same surgery. Even if hips seem to be the injury _de iure_ of the moment…

  70. kill.schill(ing) April 25th, 2009 at 12:58 am

    Am I the only one irked by Cashman’s flippancy in that YES post-game interview with the press?

    Chewing gum like a cow and acting the nonchalant, almost complacent, cavalier while announcing, at least, two significant injuries, and possibly a third, doesn’t exactly strike me as a prescription for endearing yourself or inspiring confidence in your leadership.

    It’s one thing to be strong, unruffled, and stoic in the face of adversity; it’s quite another to be blase about it. Doesn’t an injury of unknown duration to your 2 starter and perhaps to your set-up man warrant gravity?

    I’m not asking him to be morose but he was practically glib about it.

    With every year, I like this guy less and less. Less modesty, more presumption and arrogance.

  71. pat April 25th, 2009 at 12:59 am

    For all the talk about Tex getting blasted from the fans in Boston, Damon got bigger boos tonight.

  72. Boston Dave April 25th, 2009 at 12:59 am

    Don’t get too down… the Sox had all their weapons tonight.

    here’s the general Yankees lineup in a week or so

    Jeter
    Damon
    Tex
    ARod
    Posada
    Cano
    Matsui
    Swisher
    Gardner/Melky

    doesn’t that look so much better??

  73. S.A.--It's a marathon, not a sprint. Calm down. April 25th, 2009 at 12:59 am

    I dunno if Phil’s development will really suffer a set back if he is indeed called up. I think he will alright. Let’s just see what happens.
    I know I will be nervous for him on Tues. :)

  74. Rebecca-Optimist Prime...Staying to Write the Story April 25th, 2009 at 12:59 am

    Apologies about Melancon. Didn’t realize (I’m not sure how) he also was in AAA last year.

  75. Rebecca-Optimist Prime...Staying to Write the Story April 25th, 2009 at 1:01 am

    kill schill: Cashman’s got three rings. He’s allowed to be flippant.

    “April 25th, 2009 at 12:59 am

    Don’t get too down… the Sox had all their weapons tonight.

    here’s the general Yankees lineup in a week or so

    Jeter
    Damon
    Tex
    ARod
    Posada
    Cano
    Matsui
    Swisher
    Gardner/Melky

    doesn’t that look so much better??”

    If you’re having Nick Swisher hitting 8th, you’ve got one hell of a line up. I’d switch Matsui and Swisher, but the point remains: that’s not a line up I want to face, ever, if I’m on another team.

  76. Giuseppe Franco April 25th, 2009 at 1:01 am

    In a perfect world, I’d rather see Wang pitching like Wang and Hughes down in Scranton continuing to work on his game and taking the ball every five days.

    But since Wang is going to be out awhile, I don’t see the point in anyone else getting the call.

    Let’s hope Hughes pounds the zone and pitches inside because his biggest problem was that he tried to nibble too much.

  77. Boston Dave April 25th, 2009 at 1:02 am

    “I dunno if Phil’s development will really suffer a set back if he is indeed called up.”

    ————

    tough to say. he can get by with his plus fastball in the minors but he could most likely use some more time polishing his secondary pitches, which he’ll need to rely on much more in the big leagues.

    he also seemed to lose control of his fastball last time he was up. he can throw his fastball anywhere he wants, but he was walking way too many guys last time up.

    that will be one thing to watch – is he hitting Posada or Molina’s glove with the fastball (like he can).

  78. miggs April 25th, 2009 at 1:02 am

    “Ugh, so Hughes who isn’t ready will be called up – and not just for 1 or 2 starts. He’s going to be up for probably a month or so, with an inconsistent curve and change. I love the kid – he’s going to be a big time pitcher in the not-too distant future. This just sucks for him ”

    Yeah it sucks to be called up to the majors to pitch for the Yankees. Its much better to pitch in AAA for a few more years.

    Heck, maybe by the time he’s 30 he’ll be ready.

    Wouldn’t want to rush him or anything, right?

  79. stuart April 25th, 2009 at 1:02 am

    look at lowells body compared to Arod..

    arod is an adonis compared to Lowell….

    the yanks are not not calling up melancon to save on arbitration they are not the rays or royals…they have there reason and defering arbitration is not one of them.

    joba and CC have done jack so far this yr. 1 good start each that is it. they are 9 and 7, should have won tonigh and the joba start in KC, that is baseball.. Joba has dominated no one, you want to start big boy show us WHY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    cano sucks with bases loaded, it is scary how bad he is in the big spots, he needs to see a shrink…. having 1 less position player has hurt them in 2 games tonight and another game that they won. Having Molina and Pena in the game and not being able to replace them with a bat hurts..

    Molina got on base 3 or 4 times today and they lsot.

    RISP hitting a 3 year problem…………..

  80. Trevor April 25th, 2009 at 1:03 am

    Those who are complaining about Hughes. Would you rather go with Ian Kennedy? Who has been horrible outside of his 3 starts in September of 2007, in the majors?
    Kennedy looked bat shy when he was here last year. Kid clearly doesn’t trust his stuff to to get big league hitters out.
    Tomko isn’t stretched out. I believe he’s been closing in Scranton. Besides you might want to use him as a long man or Aceves.
    Yankees will once again have 2 kids with innings limit in the rotation. A long man will be needed.

  81. Boston Dave April 25th, 2009 at 1:03 am

    Rebecca,

    The Sox don’t win without their cleanup hitter Youk tonight…

    once ARod comes back it will completely change the lineup – though Ransom had one of his better games tonight.

  82. Sal April 25th, 2009 at 1:03 am

    I agree I think Hughes is much more prepared this time around. He worked a lot last year when he got back in AAA and in the AFL on all his pitches and so far this season he looks to be back on track from ST to now with his starts in AAA.

  83. m April 25th, 2009 at 1:04 am

    Rebecca,

    I think you were in your first semester of grad school. He came back and pitched in AAA through the playoffs. Was so efficient they let him pitch 1+ innings at times even though he was coming off of TJ.

  84. kill.schill(ing) April 25th, 2009 at 1:04 am

    What happened to Humberto Sanchez? Is he still on the DL?

  85. Giuseppe Franco April 25th, 2009 at 1:05 am

    “Let’s not forget Joba walked on eggshells the entirety of this game, with all those double plays to bail him out. Whatever team won, it wasn’t a pretty thing.”

    ————

    Another example why Joba is unquestionably the most overanalyzed pitcher in the AL and is held to a much higher standard than any other young pitcher in the game.

    Joba is going to struggle at times. That’s just the way it is. Every young pitcher has to struggle and take their lumps to get better.

    That said, Joba hasn’t been all that bad either. He made pitches tonight when he needed it. Lester did the very same thing.

  86. Yanks22 April 25th, 2009 at 1:05 am

    Another year same story when it comes to staying healthy.

  87. Boston Dave April 25th, 2009 at 1:05 am

    “Yeah it sucks to be called up to the majors to pitch for the Yankees. Its much better to pitch in AAA for a few more years.

    Heck, maybe by the time he’s 30 he’ll be ready.”

    ———-

    miggs,

    Hughes is 23 and would be one of the younger starters in baseball. Suggesting he needs more time in AAA to work on his secondary pitches is hardly far fetched.

    I think we all have faith in him but ideally he’d stay in AAA for a while.

  88. bodhisattva April 25th, 2009 at 1:06 am

    I’m all for developing our own pitching and letting these guys learn on the job to some extent.

    I would have preferred to have Hughes spend an extra month or two working on his secondary stuff, however. I don’t think it’s the end of the world for him to get the call, though. He’s healthy and has more places to go this time around the block.

  89. miggs April 25th, 2009 at 1:06 am

    Franco I have to give you credit.

    You were clamoring to trade for Grienke last winter. I was strongly opposed because you wanted to include Cano in the deal.

    I still wouldn’t trade Cano but Grienke pitched another masterpiece tonight. CG 10Ks one unearned run. Still hasn’t allowed an earned run this year.

    Seems to have overcome the anxiety issues from his past.

    So here’s a tip of the cap to you, my friend.

    Your guy certainly looks like a stud so far this year.

  90. GreenBeret7 April 25th, 2009 at 1:06 am

    CaptainsCorner
    April 25th, 2009 at 12:47 am
    As Torre starts to abuse Broxtons arm. I hope he gives up this game. It would make me feel better.

    ————————————————————

    8 games, 9.1 innings out of 17. Torre will kill Broxton’s career, just like he did Rivera’s.

  91. stuart April 25th, 2009 at 1:06 am

    Kill shilling concerned about Cashmans gum chewing.

    get a clue and a life..

    this is a baseballl game he is not secretary of state.. really you clowns have a life????????

    insert arod and remove ransom the team is significantly better.

    Hughes has pitched in the majors parts of the 2 previosu years, take the training wheels off.. all you clowns love to baby these pitchers… BTW Joba has done jack this year, he has dominated no one…I expect him to dominate on occasion else the morons who want him to go to the pen are almost correct in there assesment…He needs to be a pseudo 1, he is not andy sonnastine……….

  92. Rebecca-Optimist Prime...Staying to Write the Story April 25th, 2009 at 1:07 am

    m: Ah yes, that would explain it.

    Phil really could use more time at AAA, but it is apparently not to be.

    We can’t change the cards we’re dealt; only the way we play the hand.

  93. Boston Dave April 25th, 2009 at 1:08 am

    “You were clamoring to trade for Grienke last winter.”

    ———-

    blah, I was clamoring for the Yanks to trade for David Price, Clayton Kershaw, Derek Holland, Tommy Hanson, etc…

  94. CaptainsCorner April 25th, 2009 at 1:08 am

    Hughes’ fastball in the minors was over powering but it was just average in the majors. His curveball was good IF he had command of it. But he didn’t always have command of his secondary pitches. So that left him with just a fastball. He needs to work on his secondary pitches in the minors before he is ready for the majors.

  95. stuart April 25th, 2009 at 1:10 am

    who says HUghes needs more time.. the guy needs to suck it up and grow up..

    either he will suceed or be another babied soft starter…

    he has only been pitching for about 9 years over 4 in the yankee system, what does he need to figure out.. it is still 60 feet 6 inches, stop babying these guys.. Joba wants to start which he should, we need to see him dominate 30% of his starts, that is 7 innings lights out 2 runs or so….

  96. Boston Dave April 25th, 2009 at 1:10 am

    “Hughes’ fastball in the minors was over powering but it was just average in the majors.”

    ———

    IMO, that’s because he was having trouble locating it and he also couldn’t throw his curve for strikes so hitters would sit fastball.

    hitters, even though they sat fastball, still had trouble timing it somewhat but if you make enough mistakes, they’re going to hammer it.

    he needs to carry over the control he’s had in the minors to the majors and he’ll be fine.

  97. kill.schill(ing) April 25th, 2009 at 1:11 am

    Three rings, Rebecca, attributable, largely, to players Cashman inherited from Gene Michael and Bob Watson: that’s worth remembering, no?

    I don’t know about you but I only grant that indulgence to people who have earned their success completely on their own merits– people like Jeter, A-Rod, or any ball player, for that matter.

    Cashman obtained his job with the Yankees because his daddy and George used to sip cocktails together around the paddock with the rest of the horsey set.

  98. Betsy April 25th, 2009 at 1:11 am

    Yes, Trevor, I would rather go with IPK. There’s no point in arguing anymore whether Phil is ready because no one is going to change their minds. I don’t think he’s ready for this, even if he wants to be up here (well of course he does). He’s going to try and get by with his FB and his curve -maybe his cutter. He can’t work on his pitches now – he’s under the gun to win. This isn’t good for his development. I think he’s a special kid and he’s got great makeup – I want to make that clear. Eventually he’s going to be a terrific pitcher, but that day is not here yet.

  99. miggs April 25th, 2009 at 1:11 am

    Boston Dave you seem to have an issue with my posts tonight.

    I was simply discussing a previous debate I had with G. Franco last winter about Grienke.

    I don’t really see what your point is. So blah right back to you!

  100. Boston Dave April 25th, 2009 at 1:12 am

    “who says HUghes needs more time.. the guy needs to suck it up and grow up..

    either he will suceed or be another babied soft starter…”

    ———–

    so I guess you would have already traded him because he hasn’t succeeded yet.

    He’s 23 years old and has been injured quite a bit. It’s hard to develop when you’re on the shelf.

    I guess you also want to call up Brackman. Stop “babying” him too?

  101. Giuseppe Franco April 25th, 2009 at 1:13 am

    Thanks, miggs.

    I tip my cap back at you for saying that. Much appreciated.

    We did have quite a few literary steel cage matches that Fall regarding Greinke.

  102. SteveB April 25th, 2009 at 1:13 am

    Sanchez is rehabbing in Tampa. Seems like his whole career is one long rehab.

  103. Boston Dave April 25th, 2009 at 1:13 am

    miggs,

    I was kidding with Greinke. He’s been a top prospect for a while but I suppose if the Royals were going to entertain offers last season would have been the time.

  104. Trevor April 25th, 2009 at 1:14 am

    Hughes needs his FB command in the majors. He seems to have it in the minors but in the big leagues he’s struggled with it.
    Don’t know the reason for that. Maybe not getting generous calls from the umps.
    If he can establish his FB command at the ML level he will be fine.

  105. kill.schill(ing) April 25th, 2009 at 1:14 am

    Stuart, do you always resort to insults when you can sustain a reasoned argument.

    It’s his demeanor that dismayed me, not his gum-chewing.

    My god, you stoop to the lowest vulgar form of argument, always, don’t you?

    “Pea-brain”, isn’t that one of your favorite brands of invective. Yes, well, sometimes the insult, inadvertently, reveals the measure of the man.

  106. kill.schill(ing) April 25th, 2009 at 1:15 am

    Stuart, do you always resort to insults when you can’t sustain a reasoned argument?

    It’s his demeanor that dismayed me, not his gum-chewing.

    My god, you stoop to the lowest vulgar form of argument, always, don’t you?

    “Pea-brain”, isn’t that one of your favorite brands of invective. Yes, well, sometimes the insult, inadvertently, reveals the measure of the man.

  107. Giuseppe Franco April 25th, 2009 at 1:15 am

    blah, I was clamoring for the Yanks to trade for David Price, Clayton Kershaw, Derek Holland, Tommy Hanson, etc…

    ——–

    It was more of a hypothetical trade understanding that it wasn’t really based on reality.

    We had lots of words back and forth on the merits of a Cano-for-Greinke trade and it got kind of ugly.

  108. SteveB April 25th, 2009 at 1:15 am

    I think Betsy may be right. Hughes was working on a new pitching style this season to hide his curve more. You can’t develop that stuff pitching in the MLB. Maybe IPK is the better callup now, but it doesn’t seem like that’s the way they are gonna go.

  109. m April 25th, 2009 at 1:16 am

    Well, we’ve seen what happens when you can’t command your fastball (CC). We’ve seen what happens when you don’t have your breaking stuff (AJ-luckily he minimized the damage). We’ve seen what happens when you lose your signature pitch (Wang).

    They’re all proven pitchers, and don’t command their stuff all the time. Let’s give young Master Hughes the ball. He was back way back in September.

    stuart,

    It’s not Phil who doesn’t want to suck it up. It’s that people (rightfully so) want him to get more time in AAA.

    Phil was disappointed that he messed up his chance last season. But he prepared himself for the very thing that has happened. And injury to one of the starters. Mentally, he’s prepared.

  110. miggs April 25th, 2009 at 1:16 am

    God, the freaking drama!

    Time for me to exit. Can’t read this nonsense anymore.

    I’ll just leave with one final point. Anyone that thinks Kennedy is a better option than Hughes right now, next year, or ever needs to have their head examined.

    First you whine about Hughes not being ready. Then you want to bring up Kennedy, a guy who if anything is less seasoned than Hughes, to start over him. If you want your argument to make sense, at least call for Aceves or someone with more experience.

    Instead you choose a guy that basically defeats and contradicts your entire argument for holding Hughes back.

    Your posts are not well thought out. They make no sense.

  111. Rebecca-Optimist Prime...Staying to Write the Story April 25th, 2009 at 1:16 am

    who says HUghes needs more time.. the guy needs to suck it up and grow up..

    either he will suceed or be another babied soft starter…

    he has only been pitching for about 9 years over 4 in the yankee system, what does he need to figure out.. it is still 60 feet 6 inches, stop babying these guys.. Joba wants to start which he should, we need to see him dominate 30% of his starts, that is 7 innings lights out 2 runs or so….”

    He is *23 frackin’ years old*

    How would you like to be branded a failure at 23?

    Let me tell you, having been such, it ain’t fun.

  112. Just another handle. April 25th, 2009 at 1:17 am

    Where is Manny when you need him?

    If he was still with the RS instead of Bay, he would have taken three strikes from MO without swinging the bat and the game would have been over.

    Where have you gone Mannyiago, Yankee nation turns its lonely eyes to you. Woo,woo, woo.

  113. SteveB April 25th, 2009 at 1:17 am

    mighgs, look at the AAA numbers & tell me who is more ready.

  114. Back Bench April 25th, 2009 at 1:17 am

    Another positive from tonight – Jose’s patience at the plate. Molina hitting .250 or better and things get interesting with this lineup all the way through #9 on any given day.

  115. Boston Dave April 25th, 2009 at 1:17 am

    “It was more of a hypothetical trade understanding that it wasn’t really based on reality.”

    ———–

    Giuseppe,

    I’m sure if you suggested trading Cano for Greinke (despite his potential) you would have gotten you killed in here.

    I was able to steal Greinke late in my fantasy baseball draft. Now if only Brandon Webb would get healthy…

  116. SteveB April 25th, 2009 at 1:18 am

    IPK has a 0.89 WHIP over 3 starts, 2.00 ERA

  117. Boston Dave April 25th, 2009 at 1:19 am

    “Anyone that thinks Kennedy is a better option than Hughes right now, next year, or ever needs to have their head examined.”

    ———

    The Yankees hand has been forced with the injury to Wang. That doesn’t mean that Hughes is necessarily ready. He could benefit from more time in AAA. If he is their best option right now, so be it. We’ll all root for him.

  118. GreenBeret7 April 25th, 2009 at 1:19 am

    People need to go through the MLB rosters and list all of the 22 year old pitchers that are starting. I’ll help you out. It’s an extremely short list. Now, whine some more about Hughes needing to suck it up.

  119. bodhisattva April 25th, 2009 at 1:20 am

    Aceves isn’t a candidate to pitch on Tuesday. He pitched tonight.

  120. Giuseppe Franco April 25th, 2009 at 1:20 am

    Boston Dave,

    I recall last Fall (around Labor Day) someone talking about Cano possibly being on the trade block and I made the comment that I would trade Cano right now for Greinke if the Royals would actually make the move given his contract status and all that.

    This was pre-Sabathia, pre-Burnett, and Greinke getting his contract extension.

  121. m April 25th, 2009 at 1:20 am

    Looking at AAA numbers doesn’t tell me anything. Seeing both Hughes and Kennedy in the majors tells me all I need to know.

    I’d rather see Aceves than Hughes. Aceves at least attacks the hitters.

  122. Boston Dave April 25th, 2009 at 1:20 am

    Back Bench,

    agreed. Molina looked like a different hitter tonight.

    The Yankees will be counting on Posada and Molina to help Hughes (or whoever they call up).

  123. m April 25th, 2009 at 1:21 am

    Ack. I’d rather see Aceves than Kennedy!

  124. Boston Dave April 25th, 2009 at 1:21 am

    GF,

    I know – and it was probably the best time to make a push for Greinke if there were ever going to be a chance to get him.

  125. SteveB April 25th, 2009 at 1:22 am

    I’d bring up IPK, let him either sink or swim & give Hughes more time to work on his pitching motion, which this spring was what the Yankees reported he was going to do.

    Hughes has done well in AAA, but it’s AA ball. MLB hitters were hitting him last year because they could figure out when he was going to throw his curve.

    Hughes is 22, soon to be 23. It not like we need him right now or we lose him.

  126. Boston Dave April 25th, 2009 at 1:22 am

    GB7,

    Rick Porcello :)

    Tigers better hope they’re not rushing him. He hasn’t pitched very well so far, though his time should come.

  127. miggs April 25th, 2009 at 1:23 am

    That’s great IPK pitched well in the minors last year too.

    If all roster decisions were based upon minor league numbers then Tomko, Melancon, and Austin Jackson would all be playing for the Yankees right now. Luckily the Yankees don’t run their franchise that way.

    Don’t bring up AAA numbers of Ian freaking Kennedy as your argument. Please.

    You want to give yourself the best chance to win? You bring up Hughes. I mean, its really not even close. Kennedy wouldn’t even be my 2nd choice, that would be Aceves. Based upon last years MAJOR League numbers. Unless you value AAA numbers more. Then yeah let’s bring up IPK.

  128. SteveB April 25th, 2009 at 1:23 am

    Until tonight, Aceves has stunk in 2 starts.

    That said, I like him too, but not off what he’s done so far this season.

  129. Rebecca-Optimist Prime...Staying to Write the Story April 25th, 2009 at 1:24 am

    didn’t we draft Greinke’s brother?

  130. CaptainsCorner April 25th, 2009 at 1:25 am

    What about sunglasses any chance they bring him up? Maybe he is ready for the big show lol I remember his start against Detroit last year he gave up like 10 runs in the 1st couple of innings.

  131. SteveB April 25th, 2009 at 1:25 am

    What I value is their development and their stats against their peers is the best judge we have.

    IPK wasn’t good at first when he was sent down last spring. It took him a bit to get himself set.

  132. Ed - Swisher is awesome. April 25th, 2009 at 1:25 am

    Rebecca, Yep. his name totally crossed my mind right now.

  133. bodhisattva April 25th, 2009 at 1:26 am

    SteveB
    April 25th, 2009 at 1:15 am
    I think Betsy may be right. Hughes was working on a new pitching style this season to hide his curve more. You can’t develop that stuff pitching in the MLB. Maybe IPK is the better callup now, but it doesn’t seem like that’s the way they are gonna go.
    =======================================================
    Yeah, I believe he’s throwing a power curve from same release point as FB. I don’t think coming up for a few starts has the power to undo him, since he’s healthy, & has more weapons to work with, even if they’re in-progress weapons. When Wang returns, he goes back down.

  134. Giuseppe Franco April 25th, 2009 at 1:26 am

    didn’t we draft Greinke’s brother?

    ——–

    He was DFA’d a few weeks back. No longer part of the organization.

    Not sure if he caught on somewhere else or not.

  135. Boston Dave April 25th, 2009 at 1:26 am

    Rebecca,

    as GB7 pointed out earlier, the Yankees cut Luke Greinke about a month ago.

  136. Ed - Swisher is awesome. April 25th, 2009 at 1:27 am

    Rebecca, check that…his name is Luke.

  137. Trevor April 25th, 2009 at 1:27 am

    The problem with calling up Aceves to be in the rotation instead of Hughes is you may need a long man eventually. So you want to save Aceves for that.
    Your not going to have Hughes or Kennedy the long man. Tomko is a candidate but he’s not on the 40 man.

  138. Buddy Biancalana April 25th, 2009 at 1:28 am

    Luke Greinke

  139. Ed - Swisher is awesome. April 25th, 2009 at 1:28 am

    isn’t Luke Greinke playing for the SI Yanks now?

  140. miggs April 25th, 2009 at 1:28 am

    I’d bring up Igawa. No joke.

    He wouldn’t be my first choice. But he’s not too far down the list. Great spring training. Good start this year.

    Anyway, now I really have to go. The beach is going to be calling my name in the AM. 80 freaking degrees!

    Bad night on and off the field. Tomorrow will be better.

  141. Boston Dave April 25th, 2009 at 1:28 am

    “Based upon last years MAJOR League numbers. Unless you value AAA numbers more. Then yeah let’s bring up IPK.”

    ———

    so you’re using last year’s MAJOR league numbers when you decided that Phil was ready to be called up this year?

  142. GreenBeret7 April 25th, 2009 at 1:29 am

    Boston Dave
    April 25th, 2009 at 1:22 am
    GB7,

    Rick Porcello

    Tigers better hope they’re not rushing him. He hasn’t pitched very well so far, though his time should come.

    ————————————————————

    Yeah….no kidding. They really did a job on Verlander. Right now, he’s so screwed up, he doesn’t know whether he’s coming or going. Porcello might or might come crashing down. another one that worries me is the load the Giants are putting on Lincecum.

    For every Doc Gooden or Bob Feller, there’s a Sandy Koufax that takes seven years to figure it out, or, a David Clyde, Al Leiter.

  143. Ed - Swisher is awesome. April 25th, 2009 at 1:31 am

    GB, the only good thing came out of Verland for the Tigers was winning ROTY.

  144. Boston Dave April 25th, 2009 at 1:31 am

    “another one that worries me is the load the Giants are putting on Lincecum.”

    ———–

    If I didn’t know any better I’d have thought Dusty Baker were still coaching there. What they did to Lincecum last season was atrocious.

    At least Hamels was in a playoff run. Lincecum was only pitching for an award.

  145. Boston Dave April 25th, 2009 at 1:33 am

    Johan Santana must have puked when K-Rod gave up that 2-run HR in the 9th. Good thing they were up 3 runs.

  146. GreenBeret7 April 25th, 2009 at 1:34 am

    Boston Dave
    April 25th, 2009 at 1:31 am
    “another one that worries me is the load the Giants are putting on Lincecum.”
    —————-

    If I didn’t know any better I’d have thought Dusty Baker were still coaching there. What they did to Lincecum last season was atrocious.

    At least Hamels was in a playoff run. Lincecum was only pitching for an award.

    ————————————————————

    Dusty Baker took lessons from Billy Martin and Lou Piniella.

  147. beefy April 25th, 2009 at 1:38 am

    Kennedy real is the smarter choice. Don’t get me wrong, Hughes is the better pitcher when potential is added into the mix, but for right now Kennedy is the smarter choice to call up. Kennedy currently has better control of his pitches and is more seasoned. Scouts have very recently said the Kennedy is MLB ready while Hughes still has some things he needs to work on (i.e. curveball consistency and control of his changeup.) Added benefits of calling up Kennedy and allowing more time for Hughes to better himself are: 1, if Kennedy stinks it up again it will take some pressure off Hughes if he had to be called up next. 2, if Kennedy succeeds his trade value will be at its highest level thus far. Therefore Kennedy should be called before Hughes.

  148. m April 25th, 2009 at 1:48 am

    lol @ Randy Levine. He’s a feisty one.

    NEW YORK — Mention those empty seats at Yankee Stadium at your own risk.

    Don Garber did.

    A day after the Major League Soccer commissioner raised the subject, New York Yankees president Randy Levine blasted back.

    “Don Garber discussing Yankee attendance must be a joke,” Levine said Friday. “We draw more people in a year than his entire league does in a year. If he ever gets Major League Soccer into the same time zone as the Yankees, we might take him seriously.

    “Hey Don, worry about Beckham, not the Yankees. Even he wants out of your league,” he said.

    Star David Beckham has been loaned from MLS’ Los Angeles Galaxy to AC Milan through the end of the Italian Serie A season.

    Speaking Thursday to the Associated Press Sports Editors, Garber said he’d noticed the unfilled seats at New York’s two new stadiums. The Yankees’ premium seats were more than half-empty for the five games following their home opener.

    “It’s incomprehensible that you watch a game, and there will be front-row seats empty,” Garber said.

    Told of Levine’s comments, Garber explained his remark.

    “When I mentioned the New York Yankees yesterday, my comments were part of a larger assertion that all businesses — even the most successful sports entities — are experiencing some impact from the economic downturn,” Garber said through a league spokesman.

    “The Yankees are one of the world’s strongest sports brands and the context of my comments about a few empty seats at Yankee Stadium was to illustrate the economic challenges we are all facing,” he said.

    MLS averaged 16,460 for 210 regular-season games last year, a total of 3.46 million. The Yankees averaged 53,070 last year in the final season at the old Yankee Stadium, a total of 4.3 million.

  149. stuart April 25th, 2009 at 1:50 am

    I hurt your feelings Kill shilling………….

    Ahh you are the idiot who commented on Cashmans demeanor or style or some other nonsense…

    really who gives a crap about how cahsman answered some moronic question from some writer or reporter….

    Hughes has been pitching in the yankee organization for parts of 4 years, I do not expect him to be koufax but the guy has the pitches, the velocity, and the smarts to get it done. Hughes is physically and stuff wise in a different world then Kennedy.

    I am not asking Hughes to win the cy young I am asking he to compete, not be scared of contact, and develop… He can do that a pitch effectively in the BIGS, he is not being rushed and should not be unprepared.. That is it…

    Look atthe way the yanks are handling Hughes and Detroit Porcello, 2 different worlds. I assume the Tigers have a different philosophy on moving young guys up.. Hughes is 3 yrs older then Porcello I think and has not been rushed like Porcello mainly because of his numerous DL stints over the last 3 yrs…

  150. Uncle Ellsworth April 25th, 2009 at 1:52 am

    I had only one Q before coming here: Why did Marte face Youkless? regrettably answererd.
    Hope BB is Ok.
    good bad game tonight.
    This team is gonna light it UP.
    Alex-Wang-Melancon

  151. Uncle Ellsworth April 25th, 2009 at 2:01 am

    slickster

  152. Boston Dave April 25th, 2009 at 2:02 am

    “Hughes has been pitching in the yankee organization for parts of 4 years”

    ——–

    exactly. and how many parts make a whole?

    he’s been injured several times and has had to make adjustments along the way. he could benefit from some additional development.

    people keep saying he has nothing to prove in the minors because of his #s YET when they talk about IPK or Igawa’s #s in the minors they say “AAA #s don’t mean anything”

    so unless you’ve been scouting him in AAA and he’s been commanding his curveball and perhaps his change, I’m gonna operate under the assumption that he could benefit from more time in AAA.

    That doesn’t mean he’s going to tank for the Yanks. It just means that ideally he’d stay down for a little longer.

  153. Ed - Swisher is awesome. April 25th, 2009 at 2:04 am

    for what its worth, Ransom did had a good game tonight but getting injured stink. tonight was definitely a confidence boost up for him.

  154. Pat M April 25th, 2009 at 2:12 am

    Hughes will most likely do very well if he’s summoned to the Bronx…But he’s not the finished product…The time lost due to 2 rather freakish injuries really have set his timetable back…..It appears that Wang will be gone at least a month, so that’s at least 5 starts….With deveopments that have taken place over the past 7 days certainly alters eveyones plans and time tables….The Bruney issue will have far sweeping consequences….Better hope it’s nothing than inflamation or tightness that can be resolved in a few days…..I disagree with CB, who I respect deeply about being over used….9 appearences in 22 days is not that out of line…….

  155. Wow, the Red Sox sure are white. April 25th, 2009 at 2:14 am

    ARod will not be rushed back cause of Ransom. You don’t want ARod to come back early and risk making his little hip thing worse. An extra week without ARod will be fine. They can win games without ARod as they have shown and worth waiting a bit longer to get a full strength ARod. Yankees have a lot invested in him so they won’t rush him back till they know he can come back.

    Are any of us really going to miss Cody. See ya! DFA Cody to make room for his replacement.

    Melancon needs to come up. He is ready and the Yankees could really use him. All pieces are in place for him to make his 2009 Debut. Stop trying out other pieces. Yankees have a bad history of doing that.

  156. TIDROW April 25th, 2009 at 2:20 am

    Can’t they sign a free agent to fill Ransoms’ spot? Isn’t Marlon Anderson available?

  157. Ed - Swisher is awesome. April 25th, 2009 at 2:23 am

    “Can’t they sign a free agent to fill Ransoms’ spot? Isn’t Marlon Anderson available?”

    hell no. Anderon can’t hit or field.

  158. Justin C. April 25th, 2009 at 2:33 am

    mark grudz is available

  159. DYNASTY IS DESTINY! April 25th, 2009 at 2:41 am

    How many people think that Phil Hughes will have better luck this time around?

    What’s different about him this year as opposed to last? Why do you expect success this time around?

    Not saying he won’t be successful, just want to hear the reasons why you think he will…

    Anyone?

    Let’s Go Yanks!!!!

    Let’s hope so…

    Let’s Go Yanks!!!!

  160. TIDROW April 25th, 2009 at 2:50 am

    Kevin Russo and Eric Duncan are doing very well at Scranton. Why not give one of them a shot? There also is a guy at Trenton named Chris Malec who is an on base machine and is hitting .367. I know he’s not a prospect for them but the guy has hit at every level of the organization. I don’t want Berroa up here. I’d rather go with a homegrown youngster.

  161. TIDROW April 25th, 2009 at 3:02 am

    Correction; Malec is hitting .342.

  162. Giuseppe Franco April 25th, 2009 at 3:12 am

    They can’t add another young kid on the roster because they already added one few weeks ago with Pena.

    Now Pena is on the 40-man to stay.

    Berroa was the idea guy to add to the roster because he was expendable when A-Rod came back.

    Now with Ransom out as well, they are going to have to do some juggling with roster slots.

    Never give a young kid a roster spot unless it’s necessary because that’s a long term decision.

  163. GreenBeret7 April 25th, 2009 at 3:31 am

    Jesus, people. NYY doesn’t need a 1st baseman that plays third base with a 9.15 fielding percentage. Malec can’t even play an acceptable 1st base.

    Forget Anderson, who has never played 3rd or shortstop, forget Grudzalenek who can’t throw from 3rd or short without a replay man….he’s not even a good 2nd baseman any more and neither is Loretta.

    Eric Duncan is also not a good fielding third baseman and no idea whether he can hit MLB pitching. Now is not the time to put him on the 40 man roster and experiment.

  164. GreenBeret7 April 25th, 2009 at 3:34 am

    And Russo is on the DL and not on the 40 man roster.

  165. Chokers April 25th, 2009 at 5:34 am

    Rivera choked, Teixeira choked, Posada choked, they all choked but no one is sure who to blame for this choke job because Rodriguez didn’t choke because he was miles away when it happened.

  166. Dave April 25th, 2009 at 5:59 am

    pull a rabbit out of a hat? Sorry cash but it doesnt take a magic trick to replace a guy that was hitting 180 226 320. Replacing arod with someone that could actually hit might have been magic but since he completely failed in that department by doing nothing when arod went down, replacing ransom should be a breeze. Cash would actually be hard pressed to find a player that actually produces less than ransom has so far this season. A folding chair may very well be a step up. You dont need magic mr cashman, all you need is a folding chair or a time machine and some common sense.

  167. Dave April 25th, 2009 at 6:03 am

    i really cant imagine that wang is actually injured right now – im sure this is just an excuse to remove him from the 40 man so he can continue to pitch in the minors without taking up a roster spot. The original plan to just send him down to the minors without putting him on the dl was ridiculous. I cant imagine it will take wang a full month to turn things around and if this injury thing is just an excuse, i would think he is back up as soon as he starts pitching well again. I would say three starts and two to three weeks tops.

  168. Dave April 25th, 2009 at 6:14 am

    The yanks organization is just plain dumb sometimes – now that melancon is done awing everyone in spring training, he decided to become unhittable in AAA now at 10 and a third innings with 4 hits 3 walks and 17 strikeouts. His era is 0 and his whip is .68 so what do the yanks want him to prove before they let him make an impact where it counts? The pen should be made up of the best relievers in the organization at any given moment and IMO, melancon is in the top three in the entire organization.

    So now that bruney is not available and melancon is probably going to be the second best pitcher in the pen if moved up, the question has to be asked, why is the organization insist on wasting away talent in the minors? The seventh eighth and ninth should be melancon, bruney and mo when we have a lead. BRING HIM UP ALREADY!! Oh and phil with 19 innings has 19 ks, 1.86 era and 1.03 whip. Thats 3 walks in over 19 innings for big phil as well. I would say he deserves another shot up in the majors as well. The funny thing – next to melancon’s numbers, phil only looks mediocre so far this season but they both should come up to the majors ASAP.

  169. Rick April 25th, 2009 at 6:26 am

    I am not getting excited about the players the yankees bring up from the minors….look at the record none of them have any consistency…the pitching prospects tantalize you and then leave you down….the position players are a waste…ransom couldn’t hit his weight…trade some of the hyped up pitchers and get some players who can play….stop looking for lightning in a bottle

  170. Dave April 25th, 2009 at 6:34 am

    Rick, who are you talking about? ransom? He has always sucked. He was never hyped up to be any sort of prospect that could contribute to the major league club. Gardner and melky are obviously marginal players. The guys who are real prospects are mainly the pitchers in the minors – Melancon, hughes, brackman, betances, etc. And austin jackson and jesus montero. But cano has started off the year pretty solidly and hughes and melancon are wiping the floor with teams in AAA.

    Joba has started off the year pretty well also. Wnag will turn it around eventually. We need our pitchers in AAA – like right now bruney and wang need to be replaced already. And there will be more pitching injuries to come for sure. No point trading our best pitching prospects for positional players especially when their value is not as high as it can be. Hughes and melancon will help us in a major way on the yanks far more than they would help us in any sort of trade right now.

  171. Dave April 25th, 2009 at 6:36 am

    oh and the scranton yanks right now are 13 and 1. You said look at their record well that is their record. They are dominating everyone. You dont think they have talent that could help the major league club, think again,

  172. S.A.--It's a marathon, not a sprint. Calm down. April 25th, 2009 at 6:57 am

    Well, I was hoping to wake up this morning with the events of last night being some sort of nightmare. Wasn’t the case. :(

    Let’s take these next 2 games and win the series.
    Happy NFL Draft day everyone

  173. Rick April 25th, 2009 at 7:09 am

    bring up the pitchers and let them pitch then….but we must have patience with them..joba is struggling right now…his whip is close to two plus his velocity is down too.i have no idea about that…..hughes will have to get his feet on the ground too…my point is we can’t have instant success with the minor league players…..there is no easy way for these kids to get going unless we give them a chance

  174. 86w183 April 25th, 2009 at 7:59 am

    Some of you guys gotta learn to read! Melancon can cut off a year of arbitration eligibility if he comes up before May 15 and stays. That could cost millions down the road, so why not wait three more weeks? It’s one of the rare times the Yankees are guilty of fiscal sanity.

    Surprised there’s not more about the foolishness of asking Mo for a four out save in April. Albaladejo could not have been throwing the ball better, let him finish the deal!

    Sorry to see Ransom get hurt, he had some good AB last night, but Berroa is a much better bat. Once Alex comes back the utililty guy will probably hit for Gardner or Molina more than he’ll start anyway.

  175. yankeelower April 25th, 2009 at 7:59 am

    Hughes will get the call.

  176. Zach in Port Jeff April 25th, 2009 at 8:13 am

    Making my way through CT towards Fenway Park…

    Only one thing on my mind…Fenway Franks…and a Yankee win today!

    Damn, I’m already starting to see Mass plates and we’re only at New Haven.

    Screw it, I’m giving this guy the finger.

  177. built to win April 25th, 2009 at 8:16 am

    When you look at Hughes and IPK statistically in the majors, Hughes had the slight edge.

    Hughes 5.15 ERA, 106.2 innings, 44BB, 81 K, .262 BAA, and 1.42 WHIP

    Kennedy 6.14 ERA, 58.2 innings, 35 BB, 42 K., .274 BAA, and 1.67 WHIP

    They are running about even in the minors for this year right now. Hughes has slightly lower ERA but IPK lower WHIP.

    I think this will tilt the call up to Hughes, but IPK should not be easily discounted.

  178. TIDROW April 25th, 2009 at 8:24 am

    I think Pena could hold down the fort until AROD returns. I’m surprised Girardi didn’t go to this kid sooner. He does more things than Ransom to help win games. He’s better defensively, can lay down a bunt when needed and he has pretty decent speed. I don’t think Berroa jumps ahead of him if he’s called up.

  179. Joe from Long Island April 25th, 2009 at 8:44 am

    If Mo had gotten Bay last night, all is well with the world. He’s flesh and blood. VERY disappointing, but it happens.

    The larger issue, I think, is what happened to Brian Bruney. He was pitching very well, and, no, I can’t see how Joe abused him. I guess that’s the wine du jour.

    Of course Bruney would be resistant to going back to NY. He’s been lights out, and he’s a competitor, and he wants to continue being good and the 8th inning guy.

    Yeah, others could probably fill in for him, but I like what I’ve read about him, as a person, and was really happy for his success.

  180. Buddy April 25th, 2009 at 8:54 am

    I like Bruney’s stuff, but can the guy stay healthy? At some point other options will need to be explored. As for Marte, I liked his fire on the mound, but he’s still a one inning pitcher. And you have to go batter to batter with him. He shouldn’t have been in there to face Youklis. I think you make the move to Veras there.

  181. myrtlebeachfan April 25th, 2009 at 8:56 am

    So, for those of you who don’t want Hughes to come up, How many years do you think he should spend in AAA?

    2? 3? 4? 5?

    He could learn a thing or two more, but overall, Phil Hughes is ready. Have you seen him pitch in the playoffs? He’s been great at the ML level at times and that can easily continue.

  182. randy l. April 25th, 2009 at 9:01 am

    so we wake up with the team in seeming disarray . that happens when your hall of fame closer gives up a two out game tying home run and the most disliked opponent hits a walk off home run. and the cheryy on top of thus sundae is the back up third baseman and the 8th inning bridge to the closer goes down.

    not a good night. cashman made a bet that he would have 5 starters who wouldn’t get injured for a few months. that had about a twenty percent chance of paying off. so the fact hughes will have to be brought up isn’t a surprise. it was cashman’s back up plan.

    i thought he should have had a different back up plan for the 6th starter for the early season. i thought he should have a more veteran pitcher in this role. the red sox however have justin masterson starting on sunday and he’s only a year older than hughes.

    the difference is that he’s a swing man and can relieve or start and a different kind of pitcher. he’s already acclimated to pitching in boston the past two years. this start will be a very big deal to hughes if he gets it.

    masterson just goes back to the bullpen no matter what he does. matsuzaka will be back soon. for hughes this is an opportunity to stick for 4-6 starts. it’s simply a bigger deal.
    that said the yankees may be pleasantly surprised with hughes. he could be ready this time.

    i would not let him struggle at all though. he’s been through too much of that already. if he struggles get him out of there and back to triple a and get someone else who is expendable who can be used up.

    that’s why i preferred a veteran in this role. they’d be happy to be abused and hammered if need be. hughes is too valuable to do this to.

  183. NJ Steve April 25th, 2009 at 9:13 am

    That was an excruciating loss leading me to a bad night of sleep (that is pretty sad). I was on the phone with my brother in the 9th and said that after failing to score with bases loaded and nobody out in the 9th, if Rivera doesn’t hold the lead, this will be a tough one to swallow…

    That being said, one has to admit it was a great game. It was an exciting game with a thrilling 2 out game tying HR and plenty of Double plays and some phenomenal defense.

    I feel the defense is what made the difference in the outcome. Some plays had more of an impact than others, but the Yanks failed to turn 2 twice on routine plays (one resulting in no outs) and Jeter dropped a pop up that is a 90% catch for him as he misjudged it. BTW, why is a misjudged fly ball not an error? We also had the gift run in the first after Molina had a passed ball and didn’t go full speed back to get the ball and got the throw a little late to Joba covering home. Joba did go too far, but if Molina fed him the ball quicker he could have stopped earlier with the ball. It was more Molina’s fault that a pitchers. Anyway, when you compare it to the fantastic play Lowell made on Swisher, which saved at least one run, and good plays by Bay and Pedroia, followed by an excellent play by Pedroia to possibly save the game on Jeter’s grounder in extra innings. Man, he is incredibly quick at 2nd base. He also made a nice play on getting the ball to Varitek quickly on the double play in the 9th. Pedroia and Youklis are excellent players and Bay is very good as well. It does look like Big Papi is slipping though.

    Girardi seemed to have a brain cramp in the 8th inning to me. I thought he did a great job and had great feel for when to take out Joba, when to stay with Coke and when to bring in Albaladejo. But after the 0-2 pitch that hit Nick Green (this was a very unfortunate happening in the game), Girardi should have stuck with Albe, but instead summoned Rivera AFTER a first pitch strike. I thought Girardi “glitched” there, especially knowing that Bruney was unavailable (I do not know why at this point). Rivera did his job by getting a popup that Jeter missed and then struck out Pedroia, but after the long layoff in the 9th Rivera could not close out the game. The other reason why I don’t like the move is that Rivera gets used a lot in the first game of the series. I thought Albe was throwing very well and I would have let him continue.

    Once again Joba did not throw 95 and I disagree with Cone and the announcers that it is OK a starter to throw with so much less velocity. When Job pitched last year as a starter he was throwing 95-96 and now he is throwing 91-93. I hope being early in the season is the reason for 2 MPH and I recognize a guy is not going to pumping 98 MPH all game long as a starter, but throwing 94-95 with an occasional 97+ is what I expect from Joba. Remember, he hit 100 a bunch of times. One would think that Burnett is a good example, but watch him throw 94-95 with an occasional 97 today!

    The Yanks have to battle as is always the case against a good team like Boston. I hope Burnett brings his A stuff!

  184. NJ Steve April 25th, 2009 at 9:13 am

    That was an excruciating loss leading me to a bad night of sleep (that is pretty sad). I was on the phone with my brother in the 9th and said that after failing to score with bases loaded and nobody out in the 9th, if Rivera doesn’t hold the lead, this will be a tough one to swallow…

    That being said, one has to admit it was a great game. It was an exciting game with a thrilling 2 out game tying HR and plenty of Double plays and some phenomenal defense.

    I feel the defense is what made the difference in the outcome. Some plays had more of an impact than others, but the Yanks failed to turn 2 twice on routine plays (one resulting in no outs) and Jeter dropped a pop up that is a 90% catch for him as he misjudged it. BTW, why is a misjudged fly ball not an error? We also had the gift run in the first after Molina had a passed ball and didn’t go full speed back to get the ball and got the throw a little late to Joba covering home. Joba did go too far, but if Molina fed him the ball quicker he could have stopped earlier with the ball. It was more Molina’s fault that a pitchers. Anyway, when you compare it to the fantastic play Lowell made on Swisher, which saved at least one run, and good plays by Bay and Pedroia, followed by an excellent play by Pedroia to possibly save the game on Jeter’s grounder in extra innings. Man, he is incredibly quick at 2nd base. He also made a nice play on getting the ball to Varitek quickly on the double play in the 9th. Pedroia and Youklis are excellent players and Bay is very good as well. It does look like Big Papi is slipping though.

    Girardi seemed to have a brain cramp in the 8th inning to me. I thought he did a great job and had great feel for when to take out Joba, when to stay with Coke and when to bring in Albaladejo. But after the 0-2 pitch that hit Nick Green (this was a very unfortunate happening in the game), Girardi should have stuck with Albe, but instead summoned Rivera AFTER a first pitch strike. I thought Girardi “glitched” there, especially knowing that Bruney was unavailable (I do not know why at this point). Rivera did his job by getting a popup that Jeter missed and then struck out Pedroia, but after the long layoff in the 9th Rivera could not close out the game. The other reason why I don’t like the move is that Rivera gets used a lot in the first game of the series. I thought Albe was throwing very well and I would have let him continue.

    Once again Joba did not throw 95 and I disagree with Cone and the announcers that it is OK a starter to throw with so much less velocity. When Job pitched last year as a starter he was throwing 95-96 and now he is throwing 91-93. I hope being early in the season is the reason for 2 MPH and I recognize a guy is not going to pumping 98 MPH all game long as a starter, but throwing 94-95 with an occasional 97+ is what I expect from Joba. Remember, he hit 100 a bunch of times. One would think that Burnett is a good example, but watch him throw 94-95 with an occasional 97 today!

    The Yanks have to battle as is always the case against a good team like Boston. I hope Burnett brings his A stuff!

  185. randy l. April 25th, 2009 at 9:36 am

    “If Mo had gotten Bay last night, all is well with the world. ”

    joe from long island-

    but he didn’t and it’s leaves a bad taste in the mouth. i know what you’re saying though. it’s one game. what’s alarming is how mo was used. if you noticed papelbon went one inning and that was it.

    as cb pointed out marariano is 39 years old and 4 out saves at this point in the season i kind of stretching the balloon. he had to throw a lot of pitches so is likely unavailable today for burnett which projects to be the kind of game you’d expect rivera to be needed.

    looking from a further distance , i’m also not happy with the bad luck that seems to be following this team like a black cloud. i believe that a team makes it’s own luck in the sense the harder you work the luckier you are.

    wang being totally messed up, joba not being able to throw even close to his normal velocity. bruney being injured so quickly, nady suddenly out for maybe forever may be preventable or at least minimized if the yankees were more proactive. cb pointed out the other day that the red sox measure all the players constantly wit the latest medical strength testing equipment and the yankees likely don’t.

    an example cb gave was matsuzaka. he said he felt fine. the testing showed strength problem in his arm. they disabled him before he hurt himself further and he’s rehabbing and will be back soon.

    the red sox announcers discussed this last night. they said the problems with wang would have never went as far before he would have been tested for physical strength. they were referring to reports that the yankees are just now having an outside specialist doing this a month after wang first showed sign of there being a probem.

    joba is showing all the signs there may be something physical. the red sox would have already used their high tech equipment to test him. don’t be surprised if joba has a problem. the indications are there he might.

    i’m just saying the yankees may be making more bad luck than the red sox are making.
    that said burnett today can turn this all around by shutting down the red sox. i’m going to go into the game looking for that to happen.

    he has jumped up in pitch count quite a bit, but that could mean he’s ready. i’m hoping that’s the case, because if he’s once again the stopper it’s a very good indication he’s become the yankees clutch guy.

    the yankees in recent years haven’t that bad ass pitcher that shuts down teams when the yankees need it most. it’s early , but today feels like a big game. i’m glad burnett is pitching it.

  186. Teixeiramvp (JobaCyYoung) April 25th, 2009 at 9:36 am

    Time for Melancon?
    Forget this May 15 stuff. We clearly need him now. The Yankees are filthy rich enough to pay for it, and they know it.

  187. raymagnetic April 25th, 2009 at 9:38 am

    What happened to Joba’s pinpoint control that we used to hear so much about.

    The velocity doesn’t concern me as he induced a ton of DP ground balls and the sinker isn’t thrown as hard as his other fastball.

    I’d like to see him find his control again.

  188. Teixeiramvp (JobaCyYoung) April 25th, 2009 at 9:38 am

    The amazing thing is with everything supposedly going against us we’re actually not in bad position right now.
    Mark my words, like in Tampa Bay we win the next two games.

  189. Vick April 25th, 2009 at 9:39 am

    If Angel Berroa wants to make a case to be the utility IF when A-Rod gets back, now is the time to do it. Ramiro Pena will go to AAA also when A-Rod returns to gain experience.
    Right now, Marte can’t be trusted. Let’s see if Veras learned from his good outing against Oakland.
    Still too soon for Mark Melancon. A good bet is May 15.

  190. raymagnetic April 25th, 2009 at 9:40 am

    “cb pointed out the other day that the red sox measure all the players constantly wit the latest medical strength testing equipment and the yankees likely don’t.”

    This philosophy is great but there’s also the fact that their players do get hurt also regardless of how proactive the Red Sox supposedly are.

    The signed a lame Curt Schilling to an 8 million dollar deal last winter and despite their proactiveness he didn’t pitch an inning for them last year due to having a bum shoulder.

  191. Buddy April 25th, 2009 at 9:41 am

    I know there are many theories about Joba and his velocity, but one has to wonder, with his fast rise from out of nowhere, intensity, and heat he was throwing when he first came up, was any of this Performance Enhanced?

  192. Teixeiramvp (JobaCyYoung) April 25th, 2009 at 9:41 am

    Vick-Marte actually did pretty well until Youk.
    RUN SUPPORT would have helped…

  193. Buddy April 25th, 2009 at 9:43 am

    What about Kei ;-)

  194. Teixeiramvp (JobaCyYoung) April 25th, 2009 at 9:44 am

    Buddy-Joke, right?

  195. Teixeiramvp (JobaCyYoung) April 25th, 2009 at 9:45 am

    Buddy-Nah, Joba can still get his velocity up, just not consistetly. And he’s still intense.

  196. DT April 25th, 2009 at 9:46 am

    get out the etch a sketch, it’s a new day – a clean slate.

    a sub plot in all the Friday drama – will Girardi revert to the same injury secrecy m.o. as he did last year? Will he be upfront about Bruney?

    I’m sure Pete and the beat writers are watching closely….

  197. Mark D (formerly TGFizeek) April 25th, 2009 at 9:52 am

    The Yankees have a pretty rough schedule for April, they’re missing their best bat and it’s the first month of the year. Every year this team builds through the end of the season. Last year injuries killed any late season push but remember how bad they were at the beginning of last year? You figure out what you have in April. Here’s the good news:
    Coke, Marte and Veras have been disappointing, but are improving.
    Alanbedejo and Bruney look legit
    We have Melancon in the minors

    Starting rotation is grinding through starts right now. It’ reasonable to think as those power arms get stronger, so will the rotation’s results.
    Wang will get better. Maybe in a month, maybe longer, but he will contribute this season.
    We have Hughes in the minors.

    The offense is looking great without Arod. More timely hitting would be nice but if you score 4-5 runs a game, you should win alot of games. And again, they’re doing this without Arod AND Nady.

    I think this team is heading in the right direction and think it’s a great team to watch.

  198. Buddy April 25th, 2009 at 9:52 am

    Teixeiramvp,

    I was joking about Kei. I wouldn’t put him in a 22-4 blowout.

  199. Doreen April 25th, 2009 at 9:52 am

    NJ Steve-

    I was just about to come on here and post what you did earlier – there were some outstanding defensive plays made that stopped the Yankees from scoring on a couple of occasions. That actually helps the medicine to go down a bit easier – the balls were hit well and hard at the right times (RISP), but excellent defense (it happens!) made the difference.

    Gotta move on.

    But, it Bruney ends up missing time – that’s the real loss. He’s been stellar and the rest of the guys, while showing glimpses, haven’t been consistent enough yet to feel 100% or even 90% comfortable on a daily basis.

    And while last night just shows us Mo is human, unfortunately it also shows he’s more human versus the Red Sox than almost any other team (overexposure??? :) ).

    Today’s another day. Good luck to AJ.

    We’re going to my daughter’s game and the to see the Trenton Thunder (spur of the moment this a.m. due to the gorgeous weather) tonight.

    I am going to avoid the Fox broadcast. Just can’t – CANNOT stomach that crew two weekends in a row, as much as I love my Yankees. I need the not-so-homer, but at least fairly Yankee-friendly crew. :)

  200. Teixeiramvp (JobaCyYoung) April 25th, 2009 at 9:53 am

    Mark D (formerly TGFizeek)-Great post. I agree 100%.
    Yankees are actually in a pretty good posiition to win the series.
    Pitching matchups favor us.

  201. Trevor April 25th, 2009 at 9:53 am

    Is Pete still sleep?

    Any way Sweeny Murti just said on WFAN, Hughes will be starting against Detroit Tuesday.

  202. William Buckner April 25th, 2009 at 9:53 am

    Please don’t blame Marte for that loss. He was much better and we are going to need him. Youk is out of his mind good right now.

    Marte was in his 2nd inning of work and looked great against LH which is his primary role.

    I won’t blow sunshine up anyone’s rear, but offensively they were pretty good last night with a B lineup.

    Mo just didn’t get it done. It happens. It’s going to happen to every closer. It almost happened to Jonathan in the 10th.

    I was up an hour earlier today because that game made me sick, but I’ve seen that game and worse before and at the end of the year Boston was looking up at us.

    Better days are ahead. Al is coming back. We have depth to support the bullpen. Have faith.

  203. Buddy April 25th, 2009 at 9:53 am

    I’m going to kick myself for saying this, but I’ll be glad to have Arod come back.

  204. Teixeiramvp (JobaCyYoung) April 25th, 2009 at 9:56 am

    Doreen-The funny thing is he blows about one save a year vs. the Sox. Hardly bad.

  205. Teixeiramvp (JobaCyYoung) April 25th, 2009 at 9:57 am

    William Buckner-Agreed again.

  206. Buddy April 25th, 2009 at 9:57 am

    You have to give Albaledejo a chance to get the out in that spot. Girardi’s move had shades of Joe Torre, and that’s what did Torre in in NY. Managing scared against the Red Sox.

  207. randy l. April 25th, 2009 at 9:57 am

    “This philosophy is great but there’s also the fact that their players do get hurt also regardless of how proactive the Red Sox supposedly are.”

    it’s a matter of increasing your odds. chances are if you do proactive testing, you’ll decrease the probability of long term injuries. do we really want to concede to the red sox even a small edge?

    with the money the yankees have there’s really no excuse for the yankees to be behind on this kind of stuff. i agree having it doesn’t prevent all injuries, but every edge matters.

  208. Teixeiramvp (JobaCyYoung) April 25th, 2009 at 9:58 am

    Doreen-Going to a minor league ball game on a day like today sounds like a fun idea.
    I have a minor league team fairly close to me.
    Actually, Trenton Thunder isn’t impossibly far.

  209. DT April 25th, 2009 at 9:59 am

    “I am going to avoid the Fox broadcast. Just can’t – CANNOT stomach that crew two weekends in a row, as much as I love my Yankees. I need the not-so-homer, but at least fairly Yankee-friendly crew.”

    ugh… good point. I forgot the game is on Fox – and tomorrow night is ESPN.

    I think the over/under on Fox replaying the Sux late inning homers is 7.

  210. Teixeiramvp (JobaCyYoung) April 25th, 2009 at 9:59 am

    Buddy-I agree, but that is absolutely not the reason we lost.
    Sometimes Mo blows the save. Chalk up one loss in a three game series.

  211. gIANNI April 25th, 2009 at 10:00 am

    ……still stung by last nights loss….if Girardi keeps managing like that he should be gone by July…..

  212. Teixeiramvp (JobaCyYoung) April 25th, 2009 at 10:01 am

    Hey, we really don’t know if the Yanks are behind on this kind of stuff. Everybody just assumes they are.
    It could have just been bad luck, which happens.

  213. S.A.--It's a marathon, not a sprint. Calm down. April 25th, 2009 at 10:02 am

    I forgot Joe Buck today. Phooey

  214. Teixeiramvp (JobaCyYoung) April 25th, 2009 at 10:02 am

    gIANNI-Girardi didn’t lose the game.
    Mo gets one out and it’s a big win for the Yanks.

  215. bodhisattva April 25th, 2009 at 10:02 am

    86w183
    April 25th, 2009 at 7:59 am
    Some of you guys gotta learn to read! Melancon can cut off a year of arbitration eligibility if he comes up before May 15 and stays. That could cost millions down the road, so why not wait three more weeks? It’s one of the rare times the Yankees are guilty of fiscal sanity.
    Surprised there’s not more about the foolishness of asking Mo for a four out save in April.
    ====================

    Joe Torre asked Rivera to get four outs (it may have even been five) in an April game a couple of years ago. Not only is it excessive – Rivera is never Rivera yet in April. His April numbers are fine, but he just doesn’t seem to have his awesome command this early. He’s been fortunate, actually, already this month. I don’t know why the Yankees can’t read this. Boston could, which is why Varitek batted LH against him.

    Eventually, his arm warms up and everything’s back to “normal.”

    On top of this, this guy had surgery. Girardi got carried away and turned into Torre.

    As for Marte, I guess Joe was out of arms and didn’t want to use Veras. Ideally, I would like to see Mike Dunn eventually replace Marte.

  216. trisha - click to see my bigger and better Opening Day pictures April 25th, 2009 at 10:03 am

    Hey all, just skimmed a few of the posts because I don’t have the head or energy to read about last night’s game. I will say to NJ Steve that I don’t ever have my best night’s sleep when we lose to “them”, and I get up in the morning feeling at least a little bit off. As I said last night, when it comes to playing the Red Sox, I can deal with a one-run loss much better than a many-run loss. That may very well be the opposite with other teams, I don’t know.

    Anyway, I won’t be around for today’s game, at least not for a good portion of it, as I have a function to attend at 4 and then we are going out to dinner. I may well miss the whole game unless it is a very long one.

    I take heart in the fact that had we won, the Red Sox and their fans would be sitting around saying the same thing we are having to say – we had a lot of opportunities to put that game away and just didn’t do it.

    One game. It happens. It’s baseball. It’s over. New day.

    I’ll feel much better about this if we take the next two.

    Hey here’s a good note. We seriously almost ended the streak of the “hottest team in baseball.” They sure didn’t run away with anything!

    :)

    We’re da Yankees, dammit!

    Here’s hoping Brian is okay…

  217. 86w183 April 25th, 2009 at 10:03 am

    If Bruney is not back does that make Veras the closer today? I’m sure he got yesterday off so he had two days to recover from his long (and superb) Oakland outing. Can’t see Mo pitching after throwing 30+ last night.

  218. raymagnetic April 25th, 2009 at 10:03 am

    “it’s a matter of increasing your odds. chances are if you do proactive testing, you’ll decrease the probability of long term injuries. do we really want to concede to the red sox even a small edge?

    with the money the yankees have there’s really no excuse for the yankees to be behind on this kind of stuff. i agree having it doesn’t prevent all injuries, but every edge matters.”

    Excellent point Randy.

  219. Teixeiramvp (JobaCyYoung) April 25th, 2009 at 10:04 am

    trisha-We WILL win the next two games.
    You gotta believe…
    Burnett no-hitter :-)

  220. Buddy April 25th, 2009 at 10:04 am

    We should be ok for a couple of weeks with Pena & Berroa filling in at third. I liked Ransom, but it seemed like for every one thing he did right, he did something wrong. I bet Arod is up a week early.

  221. William Buckner April 25th, 2009 at 10:04 am

    randy,
    On a personal note, do you know info the rest of us dont?

    The reason I ask is I often wonder how much we know regarding injury and what we dont.

    I’ve read many of you posts on Wang. Very insightful, but more importantly, right.

  222. Tantron Willoughby April 25th, 2009 at 10:05 am

    I don’t know what to make of MO. The game was the NYY’s to win and he blows it. 2001, 2003, 2004…..Moose was right!

  223. raymagnetic April 25th, 2009 at 10:06 am

    “On top of this, this guy had surgery. Girardi got carried away and turned into Torre.”

    That wasn’t the first time this year that Girardi has seemingly turned into Torre.

    Girardi has been making a lot of questionable bullpen moves early this season.

  224. trisha - click to see my bigger and better Opening Day pictures April 25th, 2009 at 10:06 am

    “Please don’t blame Marte for that loss. He was much better and we are going to need him. Youk is out of his mind good right now.

    Marte was in his 2nd inning of work and looked great against LH which is his primary role.

    I won’t blow sunshine up anyone’s rear, but offensively they were pretty good last night with a B lineup.

    Mo just didn’t get it done. It happens. It’s going to happen to every closer. It almost happened to Jonathan in the 10th.

    I was up an hour earlier today because that game made me sick, but I’ve seen that game and worse before and at the end of the year Boston was looking up at us.

    Better days are ahead. Al is coming back. We have depth to support the bullpen. Have faith.”

    Buckner, I just wanted to repost your entire post because I think every bit of it is spot on, including the part about Marte – and Papelbon.

    Thanks.

  225. bodhisattva April 25th, 2009 at 10:07 am

    William Buckner
    April 25th, 2009 at 9:53 am
    Please don’t blame Marte for that loss. He was much better and we are going to need him. Youk is out of his mind good right now.
    Marte was in his 2nd inning of work and looked great against LH which is his primary role.
    =============================
    How can anyone “blame” Marte? Joe was out of arms (his own over managment of the BP again, similar to OD vs. Cleveland).

    I don’t like Marte for us generally. He has command issues, which does not play well against patient AL lineups. The deal he got made me cringe, but here we are.

    I wouldn’t mind seeing Marte moved. I would much prefer a Coke/Dunn lefty duo in the BP. Dunn is awesome.

  226. Teixeiramvp (JobaCyYoung) April 25th, 2009 at 10:07 am

    I think you’re all making too big a deal of Joe sticking in Mo (no rhyme intended).
    I mean, all right, he probably should have waited, but what if the Yankees won? Joe would be praised for having the foresight to nail down a victory with no eighth inning guy when the greatest closer ever is at your disposal.

  227. Teixeiramvp (JobaCyYoung) April 25th, 2009 at 10:09 am

    Okay, I don’t blame Marte, but I’m not congratulating him for a good job after giving up a walk-off HR. I don’t care if Babe Ruth was the batter.

  228. bodhisattva April 25th, 2009 at 10:10 am

    Teixeiramvp (JobaCyYoung)
    April 25th, 2009 at 10:07 am
    I think you’re all making too big a deal of Joe sticking in Mo (no rhyme intended).
    I mean, all right, he probably should have waited, but what if the Yankees won? Joe would be praised for having the foresight to nail down a victory with no eighth inning guy when the greatest closer ever is at your disposal.
    =================================
    For me, it’s really not being angry at the result. I don’t see why it was necessary to bring in Rivera w/Alby handling things, and I have noticed – happens like clockwork every April, it seems – that Rivera is never really warmed up in April. He also had surgery.

    Joe over managing again. The result – losing a close game in April on the road – isn’t particularly compelling.

  229. trisha - click to see my bigger and better Opening Day pictures April 25th, 2009 at 10:10 am

    “but I’ve seen that game and worse before and at the end of the year Boston was looking up at us.”

    And as Pete pointed out previously, the year we stormed into Fenway and took 5 straight, “they” won the world series that year.

    Yeah, we can’t let a one-run loss defeat us. The ONLY thing that counts right now is that we get our guys healthy and back in the lineup.

    GO YANKEES!

    :)

    Think I’ll go out for a rollerblade to try to get rid of that last bit of “offness” that is an automatic (for me) after losing to “them”. For me – with them – it just always is what it is.

    Later y’all.

  230. Teixeiramvp (JobaCyYoung) April 25th, 2009 at 10:12 am

    bodhisattva-True I guess, but Mo had a great April last year.

  231. Teixeiramvp (JobaCyYoung) April 25th, 2009 at 10:14 am

    trisha is right.
    Dramatic wins don’t necessarily mean we will lose the series.
    Just look at the Rays last year with the seven run lead blown, and it didn’t matter.

  232. Teixeiramvp (JobaCyYoung) April 25th, 2009 at 10:15 am

    New thread.

  233. niel April 25th, 2009 at 10:16 am

    Melancon did not pitch that many innings in AAA last year. And remember he’s coming off surgery almost 2yrs ago. In needs to spend at least half the yr in AAA. The teams knows how special he can be. I hope & not rush him up here.

  234. Tantron Willoughby Blaming MO April 25th, 2009 at 10:16 am

    The real question is how effective Mo will be against a RS team that reads him like a book. We may need a Melancon for closing duties against the RS

  235. trisha - click to see my bigger and better Opening Day pictures April 25th, 2009 at 10:16 am

    “trisha-We WILL win the next two games.
    You gotta believe…
    Burnett no-hitter”

    :D

    Okay Tex, I’m with ya! One reason I’m never hot on reading postmortems is that everyone has the answer yet hardly anyone agrees!

    I do best when I process what I have seen in a manner that makes sense to me, and then just move on. I don’t think anyone needs to hear my take on anything last night because I believe my take is as “right” as anyone else’s – but the only important thing about it is that it works for me.

    I will continually defer to the experts, and for me, they are not posting on this board, present company included!

  236. Teixeiramvp (JobaCyYoung) April 25th, 2009 at 10:18 am

    trisha-LOL, I am no expert.
    Just a fan with an opinion.

  237. Tantron Willoughby Blaming MO April 25th, 2009 at 10:25 am

    Too bad the new stadium doesnt have a hot tub in centerfield. Mo needs to take a bath for blowing it.

  238. murphydog April 25th, 2009 at 10:26 am

    Regarding Girardi’s bullpen management last night:

    Last night he knows Burney is hurt and won’t likely be available for the Boston Series. So they’re up by 2 late with a chance to win Game 1. AJ’s going tomorrow (Saturday), but it’s against Beckett so that’s a tough game to be optimistic about winning. So, use Mo tonight (Friday) for a four out save and give him Saturday off. Win Game One, probably lose Game Two and come back to try to take Game Three with Pettitte against Masterson and Mo available.

  239. kill.schill(ing) April 25th, 2009 at 10:26 am

    Randy I.

    Judicious points as always.

    A further example illustrating the foresight and innovative thinking of the Red Sox Front-Office. If you read The Yankee Years, Verducci devotes a whole chapter to the Red Sox and Indians use of ASMI’s biomechanics (Dr. James Andrews’ Institute) imaging to identify weaknesses and liabilities in pitchers’ deliveries and mechanics.

    Evidently, the Yankees, along with the rest of baseball, were invited to utilize the same technology (for a fee, of course). The Yankees declined the opportunity. Why? Well, I’ll let you draw your own conclusions.

    ***

    That being said, I don’t know if I agree with you about Joba’s velocity indicating a latent injury. The YES gun readings clocked a number of his fastballs last night at 95+ (probably inflated). However, the MLB Game Day radar gun lists his fastball consistently ranging between 92-94.

    You may or may not recall but last year, early in the season, when Joba was pitching in the pen and even in his first few abbreviated starts, he wasn’t reaching 95-98 either. He seems to take longer to build his arm strength. Given his age, this wouldn’t surprise me. Moreover, Burnett, evidently, has advised him about the virtues of pitching in the lower 90s and saving high 90s gas for when it’s necessary.

    I wouldn’t draw any definitive conclusions about Joba’s velocity, potential injuries it may signify, for another month.

    ***
    As for Girardi, I didn’t love his bullpen management last night. But without Bruney or Veras, I can’t really fault him. Last night was a brutal loss, one of those rare April losses I lose sleep over. But blaming Girardi is too facile an explanation.

    The Yankees had bases loaded twice in the game with no outs (7th and the 9th) They scored a total of one run. ONE!! You can’t win games playing like that. When bases are loaded with no one out, a team can score two runs on outs. Anything less is a failure.

  240. AD April 25th, 2009 at 10:46 am

    OK a bad loss in fenway, late in the game. Seems to me that there is about one of these a year. Glad we got it over in April.

    Once we get the results on Bruney, we can take it from there. Still no reason to panic and ask for trades. We get Arod Back Early May, Nady in late May, and Wang could be fixed by June 1… Its a Long Season Peeps…. Chillax….

  241. R.B. April 25th, 2009 at 5:09 pm

    Chamberlain: Where’s his heat??? Love the guy, but he pitched not even one year before being in the majors. Was groomed at AAA to relieve and came up and did so!!! At this point ( I’ve said it for a year ) he looks to me like : HE BELONGS IN THE PEN!!! PERIOD He might win 10-12 games as a starter but I’ll take 50 set-ups in the pen of 1-2 innings and guarantee he’ll help the team a lot more!!!Made to replace Mo or set-up for Melancon in future or vice-versa!!! Robertson can pitch here, good stuff!!! Marte will be a ? all season!!! Same with Veras, he does have good stuff!!! Love to see Melancon get a shot!!! Coke will be a plus and I still say he could start!!!

  242. R.B. April 25th, 2009 at 5:17 pm

    Chamberlain was very fortunate to get away with 9 hits and 4 BB in 5 1/3 inn. Not gonna happen in the majors much!!!

    A-Rod back soon, but what kind of start will he have???
    Lot of pressure on that man!!!

    If Cabrera doesn’t hit, ( I’m afraid Brett isn’t ) Jackson will be up by mid-season!!!

    Good thing we signed Pettitte!!!

    Hughes has a chance!!! Good make-up, stuff!!! Head on straight!!! Can’t say the same for Kennedy. If he can’t come back up and get it together, he looks like trade bait after going back down and being successful.

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