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Mariano Rivera gave it up as the Yankees were stunned by the Red Sox.
Chien Wing Wang is headed for the disabled list, as is Cody Ransom. This notebook also has information on A-Rod, A.J Burnett and Nick Swisher.
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Chad Jennings
Sam Borden
Josh Thomson
ESPN has Wang to DL with hip
Hughes has already been called up.
Don’t worry, we’ll win the next two.
Ya gotta believe.
GO YANKEES!
I’m going blading.
I’m officially throwing in the towel on attempting to hate Kevin Youkilis. He is simply a phenomenal baseball player.
I don’t understand why Mariano struggles against the Red Sox when he’s dominant against every one else.
Sean Serritella-I love that it’s called “struggling”.
12 blown saves.
That’s about once per year. Hardly struggling.
Just not normal “Mo never blows a save” numbers.
hardwired-That’s why I hate him.
Chewie-Cool.
Well, here’s hping AJ can play the hero yet again. Thus far he’s got my vote for MVP.
Last night’s loss hurt because the Yanks had so many chances to blow the game open.
Today should be a great pitching match-up. Let’s go Yankees!
“Cashman said a specialist found that Wang’s hip issues stemmed directly from the Lisfranc foot fracture that Wang suffered last season. His inactivity following the injury caused weakened abductor muscles in his hips. The weakness in those muscles, Cashman said, robbed Wang of some velocity.
The pitcher, who is 0-3 with a 34.50 ERA, will need at least 10 days of physical therapy to his hips.
Yankees pitching coach Dave Eiland said as Wang tried to find other ways to create velocity, he compromised his mechanics, which only compounded the problem. Unable to effectively keep his weight back, Wang simply couldn’t generate enough power to be effective.
“It appeared as though his arm strength wasn’t there, and he was trying to do things to compensate for that,” Eiland said. “And that was putting his delivery out of whack.”
http://www.nj.com/yankees/inde.....l_wit.html
Rebecca-MVP, Cy Young…If I could I’d give him the triple crown and Rookie of the Year.
This guy has been phenomenal as stopper.
pat-You think this injury is for real or they’re just making excuses so they can work on his pitching?
Still waiting for Mark Teixeira to have a breakout series of games. Let’s hope the team isn’t waiting until Alex returns to have massive scoring.
Per Kim Jones:
“Posada will catch A.J. tomorrow, Girardi said this afternoon. A.J. and Molina have had a great thing going.”
Not good.
At what point does AJ not have to follow a loss!!!!
Backbench-Posada can call a good game.
They’ll need to learn eventually.
Sorry, if I duplicated this inadvertently on the last thread .
RANDY I.-
Judicious points as always.
A further example illustrating the foresight and innovative thinking of the Red Sox Front-Office. If you read The Yankee Years, Verducci devotes a whole chapter to the Red Sox and Indians use of ASMI’s biomechanics (Dr. James Andrews’ Institute) imaging to identify weaknesses and liabilities in pitchers’ deliveries and mechanics.
Evidently, the Yankees, along with the rest of baseball, were invited to utilize the same technology (for a fee, of course). The Yankees declined the opportunity. Why? Well, I’ll let you draw your own conclusions.
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That being said, I don’t know if I agree with you about Joba’s velocity indicating a latent injury. The YES gun readings clocked a number of his fastballs last night at 95+ (probably inflated). However, the MLB Game Day radar gun lists his fastball consistently ranging between 92-94.
You may or may not recall but last year, early in the season, when Joba was pitching in the pen and even in his first few abbreviated starts, he wasn’t reaching 95-98 either. He seems to take longer to build his arm strength. Given his age, this wouldn’t surprise me. Moreover, Burnett, evidently, has advised him about the virtues of pitching in the lower 90s and saving high 90s gas for when it’s necessary.
I wouldn’t draw any definitive conclusions about Joba’s velocity, potential injuries it may signify, for another month.
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As for Girardi, I didn’t love his bullpen management last night. But without Bruney or Veras, I can’t really fault him. Last night was a brutal loss, one of those rare April losses I lose sleep over. But blaming Girardi is too facile an explanation.
The Yankees had bases loaded twice in the game with no outs (7th and the 9th) They scored a total of one run. ONE!! You can’t win games playing like that. When bases are loaded with no one out, a team can score two runs on outs. Anything less is a failure.
JIm-Be thankful. At least we have somebody like A.J. as stopper!
Last night’s loss was a total team effort — poor situational hitting, inept bunting (Gardner has got to learn to bunt until he can hit and field consistently!), panicky managing (calm down Joe — if you can’t use Marte against Ellseberry mine as well cut him loose), bad night for Mo (it happens). Hopefully the lowpoint of the season.
kill.schill(ing-Happens.
tex
Hip abductor muscles are not my area of expertise but I’m guessing many people probably have weak ones and live productive velocity filled lives.
Zooboy-If he only stole second, or even third with one out, we’d be in an even better position because Gardy is faster than Posada.
pat-But how many pitch?
Teix — did Cano’s hit come on the first pitch? I thought Gardner would redeem himself with a steal there.
pat: I totally called that…
Zooboy-Yes.
Cano should have taken first pitch, or failing that Gardy should’ve stolen third.
Why wasn’t Wang’s abductor problem discovered in ST?
As a member of the “enemy” camp
I see Burnett as one very tough pitcher.
The Sox will have their hands full facing him, but Beckett doesn’t shy away from these situations either so I am looking for a typical very competitive Yankee/Sox game.
Jeter in LF-Well, it’s a weird injury that may or may not be true.
“Posada can call a good game.
Not true. Posada calls the pitches based upon his understanding of what the pitcher’s strengths are. He will call a particular pitch over and over even when it is not working, almost like a teacher telling a student to repeat something over and over until they get it right.
Molina calls his game based on what the pitcher has going that day and his (Molina’s) very good awareness of the strengths and weaknesses of a particular hitter on that day.
Molina is by far a better in-game battery manager, IMO. If he somehow gets his BA over .250 and his OBP over .300, he should be the lead guy, given the $$ the NYYs have invested in the pitching staff.
“Cano should have taken first pitch, or failing that Gardy should’ve stolen third.”
I’m not finding Girardi much of an asset in close games.
Zooboy
April 25th, 2009 at 10:33 am
Last night’s loss was a total team effort—poor situational hitting, inept bunting (Gardner has got to learn to bunt until he can hit and field consistently!), panicky managing (calm down Joe—if you can’t use Marte against Ellseberry mine as well cut him loose), bad night for Mo (it happens). Hopefully the lowpoint of the season.
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At 9-7 w/no ARod and Wang having blown up three times, I’ll take that. Our worthy opponent is essentially at full strength. Jed Lowrie being out of their lineup isn’t exactly devastating.
tex
6.735? details, details, details. Wang needs a mental health week after getting rocked, to work on his mechanics and a few minor league games to get his confidence back. If it takes a weak hip muscle for that to happen, I’m good. Tampa is where Wang needs to be for now.
ray (sox fanShould be a good game.
If Burnett gets injured this game I throw in the towel. You win.
made a comment to a friend last night “where else do you get postseason games in April?”
last night’s game stunk because we lost but it was great to watch ’til the end.
If Bruney is DLd do we bring up Mel?
pat-No, you’re absolutely right.
As long as he’s not going 1 inning and giving up 8 runs anymore.
Teixeiramvp (JobaCyYoung)
Jeter in LF-Well, it’s a weird injury that may or may not be true.
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I understand, but they have access to the best experts in every field. I think they were a little slow.
If it turns out in a few weeks they find a physical problem that is causing Joba’s velo problems, it will make the point ever more emphatically.
Rebecca
“I totally called that…”
the injury?
Two cents quick opinion on Wang’s hip injury. I think definitely legit. My husband started seeing a trainer who specializes in these kinds of things and we were talking to him about how the body compensates for problems. Basically, sometimes a knee problem is really a hip problem, or an ankle problem turns into a hip problem. Everything is connected and the body will naturally compensate, which puts stress in places it shouldn’t be.
anyone else perturbed by the following two things?
1. girardi bringing clagget in to make his ML debut in a 5 run (reasonable) game? let someone mroe seasoned get out of the inning, then give clagget a clean inning if you need to. not only to keep the game reasonable, but not to put a kid into a tough spot for his ML debut.
2. brining mo in for his first multi-inning appearance of the year (including spring training) in a game in boston? i know he’s done it so many times, but he’s still human. boston is not the place to stretch him out with two games left this weekend. stretch him out on a sunday in oakland when monday is an off day, not in boston with two more games to play. not only is it a tough spot for mo to get his arm stretched out, if you get burned (like we did), mo isn’t as available as he would be for the next two games.
Jeter in LF-Maybe.
It’s so hard to imagine yourselves in their position.
pat: That wang’s problem was due to his foot, yes.
QUESTION:
When Bruney got hurt last year, was it his push off foot or his other foot he injured? I’m trying to figure out why Bruney seems to have recovered so much quicker from the same injury.
Paddy R
April 25th, 2009 at 10:49 am
anyone else perturbed by the following two things?
1. girardi bringing clagget in to make his ML debut in a 5 run (reasonable) game? let someone mroe seasoned get out of the inning, then give clagget a clean inning if you need to. not only to keep the game reasonable, but not to put a kid into a tough spot for his ML debut.
2. brining mo in for his first multi-inning appearance of the year (including spring training) in a game in boston? i know he’s done it so many times, but he’s still human. boston is not the place to stretch him out with two games left this weekend. stretch him out on a sunday in oakland when monday is an off day, not in boston with two more games to play. not only is it a tough spot for mo to get his arm stretched out, if you get burned (like we did), mo isn’t as available as he would be for the next two games.
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I’m still wondering why Ramirez, who gets out lefties, couldn’t have pitched to Sizemore on OD. The fact that Coke got him isn’t the point – he has shown a habit of running through arms in a game when he doesn’t have to.
Last year, he was pitch perfect. Hmm…
Little Mikey Loopica in today’s Daily News continues his awesome mastery of taking the obvious and making too much of it.
http://www.nydailynews.com/spo.....tml?page=0
Wrote Mikey in his last line: “Youkilis hit the walk-off, Youkilis finished the Yankees off in the bottom of the 11th at Fenway. But Jason Bay did this. To Mo Rivera. Hit him as hard as anybody ever has.”
May I add some facts: In April. In Game One of a Three Game regular Season Series. With 17 Games to go in the ‘09 Boston-NY schedule. (See, I can make sentence fragments into dramatic “sentences” too, just like Mikey).
No, fellow members of the benighted and unwashed, it’s not just a blown save; the pinstriped sky is officially falling! So Mikey stamps his little feet and waves his tiny doll hands, raging against a great player who simply failed to do his job last night.
What a birdbrain.
Today I’m spared the Fox idiots.
I’ll be in Philly for Game 6 of Penguins-Flyers.
I’m hoping this board, and my other forum, can help bring home a win.
Paddy – totally agree. No reason at all to bring Mo in in that spot. Terrible managing. Why is Marte on the team? I think it’s to go after guys like Ellsbury with two out in the eight. One batter, one out. Then go to Mo in the ninth, if he gives it up then, so be it.
I loved Giardi as a player, but so far not very impressed with his managerial skills. That said, I’m looking forward to changing my mind.
I thought Girardi was very good last year and not so good this year.
I don’t think Joe lost us this game, but he did lose us the Royals’ game.
I haven’t read Lupica in years. I intend to keep it that way.
bodhisattva-Pens’ or Flyers’ fan?
I know you’re in Philly but since they’re both PA teams, doesn’t necessarily mean anything.
Go NJ Devils (Brodeur is the Mo of Hockey).
With Wang, I simply think the Yankees waited one start too many before taking action. It is totally understandable that the relied on Wang’s say-so that he was okay (not hurting) physically, and that in time his arm strength etc would return to form. But the second outing was no better than the first.
Perhaps they should have “gone to the videotape” more quickly.
The Red Sox also let Dice K pitch, you know, even with their fancy equipment. They justed reacted a little faster.
Last night on the broadcast they talked about Joba deliberately trying to pitch at a slower velocity, etc., etc., mainly so that he can start going more innings and not blow out his arm. Basically, they’re teaching him to pitch at the ML level. Perhaps Joba is just as unready as Hughes and Kennedy were to START. But one “rookie” learning on the job should work out okay. (I know Joba’s not technically a rookie, but in terms of being a starter he’s at least still new to the ML starting duties, relatively). You do wonder if Joba is a little afraid of getting hurt again, though.
Singleton was saying sometimes for a power pitcher to build up arm strength, it could take into May. So for CC and Joba, I’m not concerned yet.
I wish the Yankees would make known what new technologies they use a la the Red Sox. The the Yankees are a very secretive organization. So, who knows?
Doreen-Smart post. Sounds good to me.
Teixeiramvp (JobaCyYoung)
April 25th, 2009 at 10:57 am
I thought Girardi was very good last year and not so good this year.
I don’t think Joe lost us this game, but he did lose us the Royals’ game.
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I think he helped take us out of OD as well. That was a 1-1 game until he started getting cute with the BP.
Hopefully, this is Joe trying to see what he’s got early and he’ll eventually settle down. They’re no doubt making longer range decisions as Melancon’s debut approaches. He’s not here already ONLY because of the arb thing.
j
bodhisattva-Maybe he didn’t help with the OD game, but I’m not gona blame Mo when the bullpen totally explodes.
You know we actually did get two runs off of the vaunted Sox pen that should have won us the game.
zooboy – couldn’t agree more. as bodhisattva said above, ramirez’s change crushes lefty. so you have marte (as you noted) and ramirez, AND albaladejo who already has an 0-1 count. if you can’t trust these guys to get out ellsbury in april with an 0-1 count, when can you? get out of it, then let mo work a ninth starting clean as he’s been doing all year (and if and when you want to stretch him out, pick a better time, with an off day after). it’s not fair to mo to ask him to do everything all the time just because he does 99% of the time. awful managing. and like you said, if mo blows it in the 9th, we all just deal with that, it happens.
Teixeiramvp (JobaCyYoung)
April 25th, 2009 at 10:58 am
bodhisattva-Pens’ or Flyers’ fan?
I know you’re in Philly but since they’re both PA teams, doesn’t necessarily mean anything.
Go NJ Devils (Brodeur is the Mo of Hockey).
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Penguins – and I could shoot them for not taking care of business the other night.
Marty had a good game for himself, no doubt.
I think the Yankees should get Melancon up now with Bruney injured.
They may lose some cash, but everybody here knows 1) to the Yankees a few mil is chum change and 2) if he’s as good as they say he is any games he saves will be worth it.
Joba next starts are against the Tigers and Red Sox again.
The Tigers can hit. Hopefully he finds his command soon…
bodhisattva-I’d be shocked if the Penguins lost that series.
I’m still boycotting the Daily News so my life is Lupica free and I’m happier for it.
Rebecca
I’ll venture a guess. Bruney had a 3 month layoff from pitching in competition and rehabbed in season because of when his injury happened. Wang had a 8 month layoff from pitching in competition and rehabbed off season because of when his injury happened. More time to develop bad habits and for something to get out of whack?
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Go NJ Devils (Brodeur is the Mo of Hockey).’
LET’S GO DEVILS!!!!
I’m glad I’m not the only one that’s noticed that…Brodeur is unhuman! LET’S GO DEVILS!
Okay, calming down now….
Paddy — yes, and now we probably don’t have Mo for today’s game; not even sure if we have Marte even for a single batter. Like I said, I’m finding it challenging to be a a fan of Girardi’s managing.
it’s like girardi thinks he’s reinventing the wheel with the bullpen. your not tony larussa, my man. just do what makes sense (ie don’t go to mo fo face jacoby ellsbury in the 8th in april. it’s not pujols in august). someone made a great point on another site a while back too. the more you go to the pen, with the volitility those arms traditionally have, the more you increase the chances that they are going to be having an off day. albaladejo looked just fine. leave him in. but we also have TWO guys who crush lefties in the bullpen. you just don’t need mo there.
Rebecca-Fantastic. That’s how you bounce back after a ridiculously bad call lose you the game. Brodeur is a model of what the Yankees should do today and tomorrow: Mad you lost? Do something about it.
agreed zoo, he’s driving me crazy this year. the wierd thing is, he drove me crazy last year with everything but his bullpen management (which i thought was consistently masterful). now this year he’s completely changed his approach, getting much too cute, with the same freaking personell!!!!! it just makes no sense to me.
This Devils-’Canes series is the best in the NHL but nobody notices it because they’re small market.
2 OT games, one decided with less than a second left and one was 1-0 shutout.
Paddy R-I agree.
Girardi should just do what he did last year and I’d be happy.
Paddy R
April 25th, 2009 at 11:06 am
it’s like girardi thinks he’s reinventing the wheel with the bullpen. your not tony larussa, my man. just do what makes sense (ie don’t go to mo fo face jacoby ellsbury in the 8th in april. it’s not pujols in august). someone made a great point on another site a while back too. the more you go to the pen, with the volitility those arms traditionally have, the more you increase the chances that they are going to be having an off day. albaladejo looked just fine. leave him in. but we also have TWO guys who crush lefties in the bullpen. you just don’t need mo there.
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He also took any chance of Mo availability today away. Poor management. I like Joe’s BP handle last year, so I’m hoping he’s just got the April jitters, but he needs to get a grip here and stop wasting arms. That sort of thing is cumulative. Long way to go, here. No sense over reacting to April games in Fenway.
I think it’s silly to have Jorge’s first start catching AJ (since ST) come in Fenway Park…….I hate the idea of personal catchers and AJ will likely do fine with Jorge, but still – not sure why this couldn’t have waited
too many woulda shoulda coulda’s in Friday’s game to place the blame on anything or anyone.
If Jeter catches the pop-up the inning before, Bay never sees the plate.
If Cano takes a patient strike in either the 9th or 10th things could have been different.
If Bay doesn’t make that sliding catch in left.
If Lowell doesn’t make a nice play at 3rd with the bases loaded.
If Jeter’s smash gets past the little leprechaun.
If the Sox lost they’d say the same thing.
If Drew doesn’t drop Jeter’s fly in right.
If Ortiz could have got a run in with a man on 3rd and less than two out.
If the Sox didn’t hit into so many dp’s.
etc etc…
you win as a team, you lose as a team. put it in the rear view mirror, and move on.
Betsy-Molina in the lineup two days in a row is never good.
Girardi is breaking out the big bats.
Teixeiramvp: I know, right?
The Devils are a great model about how to do everything right with a sports franchise (except the attendance but they play inn a market with three other teams that have all been there longer…)
But seriously, Lou is a genius. Never seems to make a bad decision. Second longest playoff streak for any major sports team after the Red Wings.
Brodeur went down this year, everyone thought they were done, so what do they do? Become one of the elite teams in the East.
I love them because you know every time they go and play they have a realistic shot of winning.
And also because all of their players seem like pretty classy guys. Not perfect, but certainly, not like some of the other guys you read about…
DT-Basball is a game of could-woulda-shouldas.
The good teams are the ones that win anyway.
We WILL win the series. A.J. over Beckett any day.
Teixeiramvp (JobaCyYoung)
April 25th, 2009 at 11:05 am
bodhisattva-I’d be shocked if the Penguins lost that series.
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Yeah, well, the Flyers can’t win it, but the Penguins can lose it, if you know what I mean.
Bylsma is not helping matters by stupid moves like Boucher instead of Letang, but I’m getting too insular here and off-topic, lol.
Good luck to the Devils. Maybe we’ll see you guys down the road.
DT — good point. But I find it easier to accept the on-the-field “woulda-shoulda-couldas” than poor management. That said, looking foward to today’s game. That’s what April baseball is all aobut.
tex and bodhisattva – agree completely. the way he’s blowing through arms is a lose lose. it’s not only detrmintal to the instant game, but potentially burns are for the next 1-2 games, at least. the concept that this stuff is cumulative is right on point too. he needs to straighten this out before this starts to get in people’s head. it’s his job to put his players, ESPECIALLY his pitchers, in the best situation to succeed. he gets an F so far this year.
Typical stupid move. We all know melancon should be brought up but he wont be b/c cashmoney is a moron
Rebecca-Parise for MVP.
If he is not struggling, I wouldn’t be shocked to see AJ throwing a complete game today, win or lose.
The pen is completely taxed.
Angel Berroa and Dave Robertson up according to Chad Jennings blog. No mention on a move to get Berroa on the 40 man roster.
http://community.thetimes-trib.....o-swb.aspx
SoCalYankeeFan
wonder who’s playing third today, Pena?
DT – i’m with zooboy here. i can take woulda coulda shoulda’s on the field all day. the players have to play the game, and what happens happens. but girardi is held to a higher standard in my book. he doesn’t have as many variables. i’m not asking him to be responsible for the players performing 100% of the time (or even close) in relation to his decisions. so in that sense, i’m not askinng him to make the “right decision”. i’m asking him to make decisions that make sense given the situation and point in the season, whether they work out or not. i’d be complaining about brining MO in had we won the game, and likewise would not have been complaining had he waited for mo in the 9th and mo blew it anyway.
How can Cashman rationalize having Steven Jackson up here instead of Melancon? Jackson isin’t even a long man, he was trained as a short reliever in AAA.
“wonder who’s playing third today, Pena?”
my apologies to John Prine but…
Bring me an Angel that flies from Scranton…
Paddy R-If we win this game, no complaints from me.
You never poo poo a win (I believe Adam Schein from SNY, who is an idiot but quite funny, used that phrase).
Teixeiramvp:
Not Clemenson?
I mean, Parise will get the votes, but with only Weekes we don’t make the playoffs.
Injuries – Check
Atleast one heartbreaking loss from Mariano – Check
No length from the starters – Check
Burnt out bullpen – Check
No clutch hitting – Check (true for the whole year, not just April)
Just another typical April in Yankee land. And people wonder why we always get off to slow starts.
By “this” game I mean yesterday’s.
“We WILL win the series.”
How much you want to bet?
Who cares about the FULL COUNT BLOG.
Jacob X-We stil have a winning record and will win the next two games. I could feel it.
Rebecca-Clemmenson for team MVP, and Vezina trophy.
Jacob X
April 25th, 2009 at 11:22 am
Injuries – Check
Atleast one heartbreaking loss from Mariano – Check
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No, no my friend. That’s one indomitable, unbreakable heart.
ray (sox fan)-Hmmm.Loser goes onto the other LoHud fan’s blog and admits their team is worse?
Melancon and Berroa would require TWO 40 man roster moves. WHat 2 people are you kicking loose and don’t say Ransom because you can’t do that if he’s on the DL.
A-List: If you call up Melancon now you cut a year off his arbitration and it costs the Yankees $$$$$$$$$$$$
Did anyone have a problem with Girardi bringing in Coke for Joba? (that worked out ok)
Did anyone have a problem with Girardi bringing in Albaladejo for Coke? (that worked out ok too)
Even Mo for Alba worked out in the 8th. (the MVP struck out)
Mo missed on his location to Bay. It happens. Even when Mo misses, the batter has to have a perfect swing. Bay did.
“stuff” happens. (not very often in Mo’s case thankfully)
Teix
Deal!
BOOGAS
April 25th, 2009 at 11:23 am
Who cares about the FULL COUNT BLOG.
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I have to say, I have zero curiosity about what Red Sox people think or say. If I’m at a game and someone is sitting near me and they want to talk – usually it’s an anxiety thing, they want to show what good baseball citizens they are, etc. – just do it before a pitch is thrown.
But really, this business of the emotional temperature of Red Sox Nation, and its seeming obsession with ours, I have never really cottoned to.
So who closes today…. Veras?
Ouch.
Just get one game here and get out. It was too much to ask this team to actually win a series in Fenway in April. Always something or the other.
All right ray, this seems like a reasonable bet.
I will say this: Whatever I say on your blog (if they do happen to lose, and this is baseball so it could of course happen) I don’t mean.
i’d be very, very, very happy getting one of the next two. winning two on the road after one like last night is a tough ask. everyone always talks about the players not caring about this rivalry like the fans, and i think that’s true. but be it boston, kansas city, or minnesota, losing game 1 of a series like that on the road hurts these players more than it hurts us. as someone who played a college sport that required back to back games every weekend, playing saturday at 3 pm after losing friday at 7 in double OT was difficult mentally because it’s not easy to put last night behind you, as much as you try. especially if you played well but didn’t execute (ie getting tons of baserunners but not plating them).
Paddy R-They did it in Tampa.
I think this team is meantally tough.
As the saying goes, you’re as good as your next starting pitcher.
No a after e in mentally.
DT
April 25th, 2009 at 11:25 am
Did anyone have a problem with Girardi bringing in Coke for Joba? (that worked out ok)
Did anyone have a problem with Girardi bringing in Albaladejo for Coke? (that worked out ok too)
Even Mo for Alba worked out in the 8th. (the MVP struck out)
Mo missed on his location to Bay. It happens. Even when Mo misses, the batter has to have a perfect swing. Bay did.
“stuff” happens. (not very often in Mo’s case thankfully)
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I think you need to differentiate between the people who are reacting to a single game and those concerned about Girard’s early-season trend of mis-managing the BP. They are two separate issues.
Teix,
It’s all in good fun.
I could be way off but I like the Sox chances better tomorrow with Masterson/Pettite than Burnett/Beckett today, but we will see.
I just think that after last night Burnett will come out smoking.
This year has seen me become surprisingly optimistic about my Yankees. Very uncharacteristic of me.
Teix – I mentally knew what you meant.
ray (sox fan)-In theory, advantage is to the Yankees thse next two games. Burnett and Pettite both pitch well vs. the BoSox.
Yesterday I figured the Sox would win (not in that way of course, but whatever) since Lester owns the Yankees and Joba is stil getting his stuff worked out. I also thought we’d take games 2 and 3.
DT-I know, but it always annoyed me a bit when others make spelling/grammar errors, so if I catch mine I try to fix them.
“I think you need to differentiate between the people who are reacting to a single game and those concerned about Girard’s early-season trend of mis-managing the BP. They are two separate issues.”
Well we are only 16 games into the season. Tough to say Girardi has hurt the pen already. Wang’s 1 inning starts can mess up the best laid plans.
Should the Yanks have had a long man? Absolutely.
It that Girardi’s fault or Cashman’s? (or a combo of both)
I dunno.
Teixeiramvp (JobaCyYoung)
April 25th, 2009 at 11:31 am
This year has seen me become surprisingly optimistic about my Yankees. Very uncharacteristic of me.
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Me too. We have every reason to be. ARod is one thing we can’t overcome – we need him back. But the pitching depth, both SP and BP, is fantastic. Credit to Cashman.
ray (sox fan)
April 25th, 2009 at 11:22 am
“We WILL win the series.”
How much you want to bet?
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I’m beginning to doubt just how much you enjoy being a Yankee fan, Ray. Seems like you’re heading for a fate worse than death….being a full-blown Red Sox fan.
We’ve tried and tried to guide you towards the light, but, I think that outside influences are pulling at you. I’m guessing that it’s the people you hang out with.
Is family really that much more important to you than your Yankeeness?
Morning, Ray. Hope all is well with the family? I’d never wish anything bad on you or the family, but, I hope your dog, Yaz runs away from home.
Hey everybody, I’m posting on the Yankee message boards right now. It’s pretty quiet.
Jut shouting out that if anybody goes there, I am Letsgoyankees, not Texeiramvp.
Be nice to see some people migrate from other blogs.
New thread.
“I’d never wish anything bad on you or the family, but, I hope your dog, Yaz runs away from home.”
oops, I thought that dog with the number eight on his back was Old Yeller, now I feel bad.
DT
April 25th, 2009 at 11:35 am
“I think you need to differentiate between the people who are reacting to a single game and those concerned about Girard’s early-season trend of mis-managing the BP. They are two separate issues.”
Well we are only 16 games into the season. Tough to say Girardi has hurt the pen already. Wang’s 1 inning starts can mess up the best laid plans.
Should the Yanks have had a long man? Absolutely.
It that Girardi’s fault or Cashman’s? (or a combo of both)
I dunno.
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Over those 16 games, he has made a series of decisions that I question. The fact that it’s early means he can start making better ones, precluding any impact of the bad ones
on the rest of the season. Here’s hoping.
Girardi said on Francesa that they’re adding a long man.
“Morning, Ray. Hope all is well with the family? I’d never wish anything bad on you or the family, but, I hope your dog, Yaz runs away from home.”
LMAO! My dog Yaz huh? You are creative GB, I will give you that.
Just a heads up, my dog Yaz is equipped with a GPS device with your coordinates in it so he would show up at your house.
Just don’t let Yaz hang out with your dog Sparky!
ray (sox fan)
April 25th, 2009 at 11:42 am
“Morning, Ray. Hope all is well with the family? I’d never wish anything bad on you or the family, but, I hope your dog, Yaz runs away from home.”
LMAO! My dog Yaz huh? You are creative GB, I will give you that.
Just a heads up, my dog Yaz is equipped with a GPS device with your coordinates in it so he would show up at your house.
Just don’t let Yaz hang out with your dog Sparky!
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Sparky’s a badazs dog. A real killer. He’ll chew up Yaz and spit him out. Keep your poodle away from my real dog.
tex – i know they did it in tampa, and it’s definitely possible (i hope you’re right!). i was just pointing out how tough it is, even for a team that is mentally tough, to do it after a loss like last night. you’d always much rather get blown out then lose like that. had they lost 15-5 last night, you feel better about taking 2. it’s tough to bounce back from last night.
Paddy R-Ya gotta believe!