Wrapping it up from Fenway
Posted by: Peter Abraham - Posted in Misc on Apr 25, 2009 
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What a mess.
There were 385 pitches. It took four hours and 21 minutes. The sixth-longest nine-inning game in history was not much to look at. There were 28 hits, two errors, 15 walks, a catcher’s interference and two hit batters.
Because it was against the Red Sox, the losses will be magnified. But the Yankees are 9-8 despite having played all but six games on the road. They also haven’t had Alex Rodriguez and Chien-Ming Wang has been atrocious. As crisis go, this really isn’t one.
But there is a major problem with the bullpen. Jonathan Albaladejo, Phil Coke, Damaso Marte, Edwar Ramirez and Jose Veras have a combined ERA of 7.08. Joe Girardi is juggling hand grenades every time he comes out of the dugout.
With Brian Bruney out, Girardi is fresh out of guys be can trust not named Mariano Rivera. You want a chance to be a hero, Mark Melancon? Here it is. Pitch well twice for this team in relief and you’re the new set-up man.
If you haven’t yet, listen to the audio from A.J. Burnett in the previous post. He was brutal today. But you have to respect a guy who stands up there and takes the blame.
Remember, for news from the other side, visit WEEI.com and the Full Count Blog. They have all the Red Sox information.
Back at it tomorrow. Catch you then.
Teams find a way. Good teams always find a way. They will have to find a way this time.
Play on.
Some losses just bug you more than others. Its also not the just the loss, but the way they lost that bugs the heck out me.
stop pitching a Red Sox blog
Rebecca – They will. It’s a long season. Things will get better.
Remember, baseball is a game of redemption. Tomorrow is another day.
team era is 5.84 not counting today or Friday…only 4 teams in the AL are worst
I’m going to Fenway tomorrow night, and was already excited about it but now I’ll probably see Melancon’s debut too.
on the good news front, Beckett’s career ERA against the Yankees is now 5.90
let’s go yanks!
I will say one thing: I do not want to see Melky Cabrera ever pinch hit again.
He is not a good pinch hitter. Try’s to do too much. And yes I would have kept Berroa to hit. He was already into the flow of the game and unlike Melky likely would have gotten at least a sac fly.
you can’t get back lost games
Thanks for the audios.
Listening between the line, sounds like AJ and Jorge were not always on the same page after the 3rd inning but AJ accepts responsibility for not shaking him off and won’t make the same mistake again.
Frustrating game but good lesson learned.
Melancon will certainly have his debut tomorrow, provided Andy does not go 8/9. And I would not mind if Andy did
However, I could see Andy for 6/7 and then 2 from Melancon and 1 for Rivera to close it out.
It’s Melancon or Jackson tomorrow for Girardi, maybe a bit of Robertson too.
Yeah, the bullpen is awful. Not one reliable guy in there.
Rasner was accountable after losses too… doesn’t exempt AJ from this gutless performance. How do you blow a 6-0 lead to the hated Sox in Fenway?
forget about it…the 5th worst team era in all of MLB
joeman
April 25th, 2009 at 11:06 pm
you can’t get back lost games
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You’re really full of those sage old sayings and bits of wisdom, aren’t you?
Coke has been improving, Alby has been ok (mostly good)……it’s really hard to judge the pen as they have been overused thanks to the mediocre SP. I want to hold off until we can get representative efforts from CC, Joba and Wang (well, Hughes now I guess). For now, they are exhausted.
The thing that makes me feel better about today’s game was just how much of a stand up guy AJ is. I think he was just soooo incredibly into being in the middle of this rivalry that he was wound up tight – and once the Sox got started, he found it hard to stop them. I love that he’s an emotional guy – that emotion was obvious from his first start in Baltimore -and I think his teammates do, too. This time he showed he’s human – I didn’t see it, but kicking dirt – he just sounds like he was completely frustrated.
I just watched a replay of the post-game interview and no question, AJ still seemed very bothered by his performance. Sitting around in uniform for two hours? When he says he won’t be sleeping much, I believe him. I hope this goes some way in calming the waters – fans want to see their players show some emotion, show they care (remember the uproar over Tom Glavine’s comments that there were worse things than missing the playoffs?) and AJ has done that. There are fans (not here, for the most part) who are absolutely destroying this guy – saying he’s a bum, he’s not a fighter, etc………Ouch. I’m keeping the faith, though
Right now this team is not fun to watch unlike in the late 90s and the new place seems impersonal. Hope that will change – been a fan for over 40 years and don’t want that to change.
So how are these high price FA signings doing right now…but it’s early
So, yes these were two of the most heart-wrenching losses…
But now after all is said and done…
We’re 4 games behind…the Jays?!
We’re 2 out of a Wild Card…
With 145 games to go.
We were one out from a win against Lester with 2 out in the 9th and Mo on the mound…
I’ll take that 99 out of 100 times!
We beat up on their best pitcher…they beat up on one of ours (on their home field).
We came back a couple of times…but we lost.
The season probably starts for real in about a month.
We’ll be fine.
Yesterday’s loss was a killer, set the tone for the entire series and gave the Sox the confidence.
9 wins in a row and counting. They just know how to win. Whereas we snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.
Edwards, what do you want to do with AJ? Take him out in the field and shoot him to put him out of misery (and Yankee fans as well)?
GreenBeret7
April 25th, 2009 at 11:11 pm
joeman
April 25th, 2009 at 11:06 pm
you can’t get back lost games
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You’re really full of those sage old sayings and bits of wisdom, aren’t you?
so we should no see what is going on with this team….O wait it’s early
The overreactions start……….it’s a bad team, their not fun to watch, etc……..I guess the season is over. The golf season is in full swing – go watch some of that.
By the time the pitching sorts itself out, Boston would have run away with the division.
And this bullpen is going to be an adventure all year. Most bullpens are when you don’t have anyone established but use the “throw crap against the wall to see what sticks” method.
joeman
April 25th, 2009 at 11:12 pm
So how are these high price FA signings doing right now…but it’s early
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I’ve been playing or watching baseball for 55 years, now, and all of this time, I thought you could get lost games back. I’ll need to read more on this revelation.
GreenBeret7
April 25th, 2009 at 11:16 pm
joeman
April 25th, 2009 at 11:12 pm
So how are these high price FA signings doing right now…but it’s early
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I’ve been playing or watching baseball for 55 years, now, and all of this time, I thought you could get lost games back. I’ll need to read more on this revelation
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got you beat ..my first Yankee game was in 1955…wait a minute we might be the same age
AJ has never pitched any big games in his life. He just talks a big game.
Look at his game logs from last yr and the yr before… this is what AJ does. For a guy with his stuff, he has way too many games like this where he loses it.
A better version of Oliver Perez.
joeman
April 25th, 2009 at 11:18 pm
GreenBeret7
April 25th, 2009 at 11:16 pm
joeman
April 25th, 2009 at 11:12 pm
So how are these high price FA signings doing right now…but it’s early
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I’ve been playing or watching baseball for 55 years, now, and all of this time, I thought you could get lost games back. I’ll need to read more on this revelation—————————————
got you beat ..my first Yankee game was in 1955…wait a minute we might be the same age
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The difference is, I outgrew my youthful stupidity. You never have.
it’s all moot anyway
tim Mccarver said we can’t win the WS because Jeter will be 35 – what’s the point of going on!
Detroit is going to murder our bullpen… and we have CC, Joba, Hughes starting… ouch. And we’re expected to win shootouts with this depleted offense?
Another early season rut. A miracle we were even 9-6. Luckily Tampa is slumping, so the Wild Card is still in play.
Sevrx,
As Pete said in the game post, that’s what Burnett’s career has been— mediocrity.
tim Mccarver said we can’t win the WS because Jeter will be 35.
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I guess once Jetes turns 35, he turns into a pumpkin?
Tim McCarver will eat his crow in blazing copper.
Call me a pessimist, but this team has too many holes and too many imponderables for it to go all the way. Playoffs? sure. But at some point all the leaks will just make this boat sink. There is still time to make major changes, and clearly the bullpen is one, but you still have too many injuries early in the season, lack of strong bench, shaky bullpen, and I don’t think Girardi is the manager for this team.
A winning team is one that is consistent throughout the season, not one that starts slow and closes fast, or a streaky one.
GreenBeret7
April 25th, 2009 at 11:20 pm
joeman
April 25th, 2009 at 11:18 pm
GreenBeret7
April 25th, 2009 at 11:16 pm
joeman
April 25th, 2009 at 11:12 pm
So how are these high price FA signings doing right now…but it’s early
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I’ve been playing or watching baseball for 55 years, now, and all of this time, I thought you could get lost games back. I’ll need to read more on this revelation—————————————
got you beat ..my first Yankee game was in 1955…wait a minute we might be the same age
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The difference is, I outgrew my youthful stupidity. You never have.
your to old to be playing baseball with yourself…
SA I actually planted pumpkin seeds today.
Jeter is gonna have a great year along with Robi “the weapon” Cano
Sevrx, AJ has not pitched in post-season games if that’s what you mean, but he’s just dominated the Rays, Sox and Yankees. Again, it’s a matter of whether you are willing to take the leap of faith that he has made the adjustment from pitcher to thrower. I am willing to do that and one game will not change my mind. I don’t think this is the same pitcher from a year and a half, two years ago -or the same guy that was with the Marlins. It’s what I believe – for those that are skeptical, they’ve got the right to be so. AJ would hardly be the first late bloomer in baseball and I’ve seen enough of him both on and off the field to believe he’s going to be fantstic. For me? I’d rather stick with him on his journey as a Yankee, no matter what happens, then to trash him as a mediocrity and then toss bouquets at him when he proves himself.
well I guess Tim Mc has a point…name a team or two that won a WS with a 35 year old SS
Nick is the game getting any better?
AJ has never pitched any big games in his life. He just talks a big game.
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I guess it’s easy to forget how the same Burnett who people despise today was the very same guy who made Tampa Bay look silly when he no-hit them for 6 innings the night after the Yanks were humiliated and needed Swisher to pitch the 8th inning.
He had a bad game. It happens – and it won’t be the last time it happens.
But he also came up big twice this year already when the bullpen really needed him to step up after horrendously disastrous outings by Wang.
The insanity on this board increases ten fold when the Yanks lose to the Red Sox.
AJ would agree that his career has been mostly about unfulfilled potential. That’s really not the point – the Yankees took a risk that he’s a different pitcher now than he was. They did their due diligence and determined that he was. Whether fans want to jump ship off of one game and say hey – AJ is the same old guy he always was – is their option. IMO, I believe in AJ’s transformation(the only reason he talks about this is because people ask him about it; it’s not like he’s taking out advertisements in the NY Times proclaiming himself to be a changed man) and because I do, I don’t think his earlier years have anything to do with his future. I guess we’ll just have to wait and see, but it’s pretty obvious that fans won’t be giving him much slack.
well I guess Tim Mc has a point…name a team or two that won a WS with a 35 year old SS
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Yep, that’s what it comes down to.
Winning the WS has nothing to do with pitching or the other 8 position players on the field.
It all comes down to the age of the starting shortstop.
That makes sense.
Ah, a sane voice in the wilderness. Thanks, GF, lol. The vitriol for Burnett is reaching epic proportions……I swear, some of the comments I read on another board were so incredibly mean-spirited. These same folks had been praising AJ to high heavens for saving the pen 3 times and for being a tremendous teammate (which he is). Today the poor guy shows he’s human and he’s now a bed-wetting, choke-artist who couldn’t fight his way out of a paper bag.
SA I actually planted pumpkin seeds today.
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Very nice.
I’m actually kinda want some roasted pumpkin seeds now.
if the Yankees are playing .500 baseball or worse at the end of May is Joe G still the manager….O wait it’s still early
>May
It’s April 25th. Simmer down.
It was looking a little dicey, Uncle Ellsworth, but Girardi finally got smart: he’s walking Bay to get to Lowell. I see this ending well.
ElGuapo
April 25th, 2009 at 11:25 pm
Call me a pessimist,
El Guapo
You’re a pessimist.
question was name a team or two that won a WS with a 35 vear old SS….all these years there must be at least two
Nick -kudos for watching although you know the outcome.
“tim Mccarver said we can’t win the WS because Jeter will be 35″
Easy solution. Just list Jeter as the 2nd baseman, Cano as the SS and just tell McCarver they are playing a shift.
joeman
do you know where the O’Neill banner is in the new stadium?
Pat,
Thanks, that makes me feel a lot better. But that does not change the fact that this team has a lot of missing pieces, starting with the manager.
Uncle Ellsworth
April 25th, 2009 at 11:44 pm
joeman
do you know where the O’Neill banner is in the new stadium?
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meet you at Yankee Tavern instead
Uncle Ellsworth: I was kidding, I actually watched all the way to the end on dvr before I looked on here. Nightmares are best unfolded slowly. I imagine Steve Philips and Joe Morgan won’t even talk about today’s game tomorrow night, being forward thinkers. Gotta get dinner, auf wiedersehen.
Ah, a sane voice in the wilderness. Thanks, GF, lol. The vitriol for Burnett is reaching epic proportions……I swear, some of the comments I read on another board were so incredibly mean-spirited. These same folks had been praising AJ to high heavens for saving the pen 3 times and for being a tremendous teammate (which he is). Today the poor guy shows he’s human and he’s now a bed-wetting, choke-artist who couldn’t fight his way out of a paper bag.
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That’s what Yankee fans often do.
They are the first to elect someone to Cooperstown after a few good games and the first to turn on said player and kick him below the belt with steel toed boots when he has a bad night and strikes out with the bases loaded.
It’s really embarrassing at times. I shake my head all the time when I read that tripe.
This is a good team.
If we need a piece or two we’ll get it.
AJ needs to keep that curve working:
Slugging percentage vs. Burnett
Year Fastball – Curve/slider – Changeup
2009 .525 .074 N/A
2008 .482 .198 .259
2007 .441 .150 .472
>do you know where the O’Neill banner is in the new stadium?
LOL
But that does not change the fact that this team has a lot of missing pieces, starting with the manager.
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Cashman is not going to fire Girardi. At least not anytime soon.
I don’t recall this team doing much winning when George was firing managers left and right.
Sane people don’t run a franchise that way.
George had the most success when he left the manager alone and let him do his job.
I forgot, Steve Phillips also tomorrow in the ESPN booth. Blech!
joeman just kidding
But it seems you are trying to “needle”
BTW Yankee Tavern too crowded – Stadium Pizza is the place to be
Pel
Glad you got a laugh out of that.
Stadium Pizza……looking for the 2lb slice…
Paula’s Pizza
where is Paula’s?
where is Paula’s?
It’s a couple of real bad losses and yes, every game is worth the same, but I’ll take comfort in the fact that we had control of both games for long periods. The bullpen issues however are a must-fix soon. The rotation will get it together by June and will be excellent but we won’t go anywhere without a better pen than we have now. It’s almost as if the 7th inning is a blind faith inning. I don’t really trust many behind Rivera and Bruney. Melancon has his chance now. Tough 2 days, but I like this team right now and the additions of A-Rod and a righted/healthy Wang can push us a long way further than the previous 4 years.
Few points from today….
What a lot of people aren’t factoring in when discussing the performance of the team the last few days is that the Red Sox are a very talented team that plays extremely smart baseball. Look, it pains me to say that but its true.
No one was complaining about the pen when they shut down the A’s in the 14 inning game, or the countless other scoreless games they put together. The problem is, when they’ve been bad, they’ve been REALLY bad. A reliever blows up, it takes him lots of games to bring that ERA back down.
Guys like Alby, Edwar, even Veras… those guys aren’t bad. They’re not great but they’re adequate. I heard people ripping Alby, this was his first bad outing of the year. The guy’s been fantastic. Same with Edwar, he gave up runs maybe twice all year.
Its the amount of innings they’ve been required to pitch. The starters need to go further into games. You can’t have the pen being taxed like this, that’s how it gets exposed.
Melancon will help and Bruney should be back soon. Those guys with Mo, should give most fans at least 3 arms they can feel good about. The other guys are just adequate. Bottom line, that’s what bullpens are. No team has 4-5 shutdown relievers, that doesn’t happen.
across from the Tavern (Yankee)….
bee right back going to jump the No. 4 for a slice
miggs,
Right about the Sox. And that is exactly the point!! they have more talent and play better ball. So, how are the Yankees supposed to go all the way with the current team and manager? It pains me to think about it, but they will again fall short. All I am hoping from this is that Girardi leaves the organization and maybe even Cashman.
87 E 161st St
Pete,
While I agree that the wheels fell off of AJ after he dominated for 3.1 innings, to only say he was brutal just isn’t fair. He was cruising, and doing what we paid him to do (dominate the AL East teams that we play umpteen times a year), and then started getting squeezed. If he isn’t squeezed on two or three pitches in a row on the outside corner, we’re looking at a different ballgame. In all fairness, Varitek shouldn’t even have been up that inning, because ball four on Bay was actually strike three. Period. Wolf had an inconsistent strike zone all day, especially on the outside corner, and pretty much arbitrarily decided when he felt like calling balls and strikes on the outer part of the plate. How is a pitcher supposed to formulate any kind of plan when the umpire changes his zone pitch to pitch, and won’t give you calls that you should, by all accounts, be getting?
The sad truth is that AJ was well on his way to getting out of the inning with a 6-0 lead still in tact when Wolf completely took away the outside part of the plate. I am not making excuses for big league pitchers who are supposed to be able to adjust to those types of things and battle through them. AJ failed to do that, and he’ll be the first to say as much. But that pitch to Varitek was left up in the zone and over the plate because AJ was being forced back towards the center of the plate, because Wolf refused to give him anything on the outside corner, and it was either push towards the middle, or walk guys. Yes, he should have stuck to his guns, kept his strategy, and not let Wolf dictate how he pitched. But Wolf also shouldn’t have called such an awful game. I honestly believe that if AJ had gotten the strike three call on Bay that he deserved, he doesn’t lose his confidence, doesn’t have to leave things over the plate, and we’re talking about a completely different game right now.
But he didn’t, and so we aren’t. But I think to only say he was “brutal”, without mentioning the fact that his plan of attack and confidence were completely shot by atrocious umpiring just isn’t fair.
have to agree from my angle that was strike 3 to Bay…where was the K-Zone
El Guapo maybe you misunderstood me. Yeah the Sox have talent but I wouldn’t say any more than the Yankees. I’d actually give the Yankees the slight nod on pure talent (2009 version of course).
My point was that Boston is a good team, and games like this are going to happen.
And they certainly CAN win this year. Nothing I’ve seen in the first 17 games has changed my mind.
Girardi is definitely not the issue. He gets a little weird with lineups and pitching changes on occasion, but his pros far outweigh his cons. He is perfectly capable of leading this team to the World Series.
Before heading over to the Yankees game stopped by here to get a slice. Pepperoni pizza was tasty — big slice, thin and very greasy… the way I like it
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Make sure not to pay with over $20 because it’ll take a while for them to give you change. Pizza for under $4 is not bad… not bad at all.
El Guapo
You call yourself a lady’s man and you’re spending a Saturday night on a baseball blog?
But seriously, what has Girardi done or not done that you wanted him to do? He’s working with the tools in the box they gave him and some of those are broken and rusty right now.
El Guapo
would you say we don’t have a plethora of good players?
Salma Hayek on 30 Rock wearing a “what the frak?” t-shirt.
gods I’m bored
pat,
Saturday night is for amateurs.
I never liked Girardi from day one. Not because he is a bad manager, but he is not the correct fit for what is supposed to be a world series winning team.
Uncle,
A whole bunch of them! but some are hurt, some are aging and some will not fit the mold. Maybe as individuals they are outstanding but for the past 5 years they have not been able to bring the vaunted WS.
The invisible swordsman disagrees.
and the singing bush can’t make up his mind
A-Rod would have padded that 6-0 lead
seriously I can’t wait until he gets back.
Maybe Teixeira doesn’t walk 5 times if the bottom of the lineup weren’t automatic outs…
Mo wasn’t too reliable either yesterday. But then again, Boston has had his number for many years now.
Let’s go down the line-ups of Boston and NY, and see who stacks up better.
1B- Tex vs Pukeless= Pickem
2B- Cano vs Pedroia= Edge Boston
SS- Jeter vs Green= Edge Yankees
3B- Berroa vs Lowell= Edge Boston
C= Posada vs Varitek= Pickem
RF=Swisher vs Drew= Edge Boston
CF=Ellsbury vs Gardner= Edge Boston
LF= Damon vs Bay= Edge Boston
DH= Matsui vs Ortiz= Edge Boston
So even though Boston has flaws with it’s lineup, it’s still better top to bottom. Even when Arod & Nady return.
Cruddy
Blaming the umps is for losers. AJ lost it, choked and s*h*i*t* the bed all at once. Face it.
Excuses make you weak. Owning up to your failures and learning from them make you strong.
Oh and
C= Posada vs Varitek= Pickem
is not a pickem. Most GM’s take Posada at this point in their career. Varitek had a big HR yesterday but overall Posada will have a better season even factoring in defense.
THEO v. CASHMAN = EDGE BOSTON
LUCCHINO v. LEVINE = EDGE BOSTON
BAIRD v. EPPLER = EDGE BOSTON
YAWKEY WAY GM’S OFFICE v. RIVER AVE. GM’S OFFICE = EDGE BOSTON
kill.kill.schill(ing)
1B- Tex vs Pukeless= Boston right now
2B- Cano vs Pedroia= Yankees
SS- Jeter vs Green= Yankees
3B- Berroa vs Lowell= Boston
C= Posada vs Varitek= Yankees
RF=Swisher vs Drew= Pickem
CF=Ellsbury vs Gardner= Boston
LF= Damon vs Bay= Boston
DH= Matsui vs Ortiz= Yankees
IMO these two teams are dead even.
“There’s nothing wrong the bullpen”
“The bullpen is terrible”
Make up your mind there, Pete.
We’ve been here before, folks. Anything is possible when these two teams get together, and we could just as easily sweep the Sux when they’re at the stadium. Exhale and move on.
The hating on AJ is reaching surreal proportions. No doubt about it, today’s game was bad, but it’s one game and he has come up very big before this. AJ is a stud who dominated, repeat, dominated, the division last season. That was not by accident. Every pitcher has bad games. Every single one, even the best relief pitcher in the history of the game. Josh Beckett didn’t exactly shine today either – does anyone actually believe that he’ll never pitch a good game again? Really?
“Hughes has been lights-out for Triple-A Scranton/Wilkes-Barre, going 3-0 with a 1.86 ERA in three starts. He has struck out 19 and walked three in 191/3 innings and last pitched Wednesday.”
From Newsday. Are those stats correct? Someone here said that Hughes was doing badly.
Yikes. I don’t think that’s kill.schill.
This wasn’t Burnett’s fault. It was Girardi’s, for not yanking Burnett after, at the very latest, Papi’s double.
Joe apparently will not pull a guy ’til he’s given up at least seven runs, and that’s a big problem. But he’s to some extent forced to do that, because we don’t have a long reliever.
Is Aceves hurt? If not, what’s the rationale behind keeping him in Scranton?
aceves is more of a longman, he isn’t going to come up and impress again
oops i thought you were talking about why he isn’t starting tuesday
AJ stand up guy.. Pete loves the real players(ie the guys who talk to him Giambi and AJ). I love the players who produce.. 6 to 0 and he got destroyed….Joke.
there starting staff should be top 3 in baseball so far it has SUCKED… They are walking way to many and striking out wasy to few…what is up with CC, aj, joba, wang(yech), pettitte is the only one who so far has pitched well.
how the hell is this happening????
GZA yeah Girardi should have pulled his $25 mill a yr pitcher to use his great pen for 5 innings. really get a friggin brain..
Burnett sucked, the offense even though they scored 11 runs was unclutch and boston yankeed them… they need to grow some guts and play better when it counts.
Did I see Veras and the other woosies in the pen wetting there pants in the later innings???Marte is a total woose…
“Tigers activated RHP Joel Zumaya from the 15-day disabled list.”
why does it always seem like players come back just in time for a series against the Yankees (BJ Upton also) ??
Stuart -
It’s early. A lot of very good pitchers are having very bad games right now. Some are even hurt. Halladay, Lincecum, Gallardo, Hamels have all gotten knocked around once or twice each. Webb’s hurt.
The only one who hasn’t yet taken a beating is Santana.
Moral of the story: It’s early. It’s so early that judging the team now would be like judging an NFL team in the second half of the second game. The season is so long that we will barely remember this come August and September.
I don’t get it. The way some people talk, it’s like Girardi doesn’t know a thing about managing. I mean, for godsakes people. Back with Florida, he took a nothing team and turned them into competitors.
Who do you want out there handling these guys? Valentine? Girardi can do it, just have a little faith. He’s smart as hell, if he can’t win with these guys…
dot dot dot
yo so after listening to that audio w aj , wowww, i need a manager stat, hate to be redundant
Getting Arod back will make a huge difference. Cashman needs to get a CF. Use Kenedy in a trade to an NL team and get a CF…Melky and Gardner are below average
CC and Wang will come right…I hope Hughes lights it up.
this is a big if…but i can dream……hughes comes up and fulfills his potential…..melancon pitches well and fits into the bullpen..wang comes back and pitches okay…yankees move chamberlain to the pen…..coke is their lefty specialist….bruney comes back healthy….ARod comes back mashing the ball…tex starts hitting for power…the team starts winning….
AJ Burnett is an ace – he had a bad game, it sucks that he had to do it against Boston, but the Yankees should recover.
The bull pen situation is really disturbing, Hideki has been a disappointment, but there is a light at the end of the tunnel. ARod’s bat will be back in the lineup soon, Wang will figure it out and hopefully Cashman will stop watching things unravel from the seats at Fenway and try to fix it.
lets see what melancon & hughes can do.
you never know.they might stabilize the staff.
we know that we will split the season against boston.it happens every year but these last 2 losses hurt.
why do managers put in 15 relievers a game.
if i were a manager i would go to the most reliable pitchers.
your starter for 5-7 innings,marte the 7th,melancon the 8th,mo the 9th.
for crying out loud these pitchers can’t get through one inning.
arod will give this team a totally different look.
one more thing.can we get a real cf.bring up ajax now.
Another bad game for us and the bullpen. The pitching has not been good at all this season and the pitcher who people expected to be our fifth best starter, Andy Pettitte, has given us the most out of his starts.
PUT JOBA IN THE PEN AND START WANG AND HUGHES
comparing the line ups and not including pitching and coaching is being selective. Based on the comparisons above, the teams are evenly matched. So, how come this has happened:
April 17 – Red Sox trailed Orioles 7-0 in 2nd inning, won 10-8.
April 24 – Red Sox trailed Yankees 4-2 in 9th inning, won 5-4 in 11.
April 25 – Red Sox trailed Yankees 6-0 in 4th inning, won 16-11.
Adjusting for defense (jeter vs green for example), coaching, pitching (oh yeah, that)…. There is a zero chance the yankees would pull off the above results.
Question for fellow bloggers. What is the correct pronunciation of Melancon? I was under the impression that it was Mel an Kone, but the useless idiot Buck kept saying Mel ahn sen yesterday. Which is it? Sorry for the poor phonetics.
the yankees absolutely need a long man.
what are they waiting for?
the 7 guys in the pen should be mo,bruney,coke,marte,tomko,melancon,robertson.
melancon has nothing to prove in AAA.
what is the difference if he pitches 90 innings for us or scranton?
he is making AAA hitters look foolish.
girardi has to stop using 50 pitchers a game.
i think it is son.mel-an-son
I think its unfair to group Albaladejo and Coke with the other three knuckleheads. Coke really only had three bad outings–two of them were already blown by Sabathia and Wang and were within the first week of the season. Albaladejo has only had two bad outings, and one of them just stung more because it was against Boston and the other was Wang’s debacle in Tampa. I definitely feel better when I see these two on the mound than when I see marte, ramirez, or veras. How ramirez is still on the major league ball club is beyond me. At least you can say marte and veras have some successful major league history behind them (which doesn’t do a damn thing for me by the way.)
Burnett got squeezed, Boston got every close call, the bullpen stinks, Giradi/Eiland couldn’t coach a horse to eat hay, hitters can’t get the big hit. Boston hitters always get the big hit tomorrow is another day to look terrible on national TV, Yankees will sink to the occasion, this season looks a lot like the last.
No thank you with any Boston outlet spewing jibberish. Can’t lower myself to that level.
baseballfan
April 26th, 2009 at 7:33 am
comparing the line ups and not including pitching and coaching is being selective. Based on the comparisons above, the teams are evenly matched. So, how come this has happened:
April 17 – Red Sox trailed Orioles 7-0 in 2nd inning, won 10-8.
April 24 – Red Sox trailed Yankees 4-2 in 9th inning, won 5-4 in 11.
April 25 – Red Sox trailed Yankees 6-0 in 4th inning, won 16-11.
Adjusting for defense (jeter vs green for example), coaching, pitching (oh yeah, that)…. There is a zero chance the yankees would pull off the above results.
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You can wallow in your inferiority complex for all I care, but Boston plays in Fenway Park, which is Pinball Baseball. They get last ups there, which kind of aids their cause.
As the old Yankee fan Thomas Paine once said: These are the times that try men’s souls! Keep the faith – it’s a long season.
And Pete, I would expect nothing else from the esteemed Tim McCarver. Great observation.
what a disaster this series has been. First Mo blows the lead with 2 out in the 9th, then Burnett blows up with a 6 run lead. Not to mention the runners left in scoring position. The fact is that this team has gone into Boston and gotten their rear ends handed to them by a better team. Boston simply wants to beat the Yankees more than the Yankees want to beat them. The Red Sox keep coming at you and keep coming at you and they are relentless. The Yankees can’t seem to get out of their own way. I am not going to be critical of any player or players because it has been a total disaster from top to bottom. What a disappointment this series has been. Who knows what will happen the rest of the year, but the Yankees should be ashamed of themselves for the way they have performed in this series.
Buddy
April 26th, 2009 at 12:45 am
Let’s go down the line-ups of Boston and NY, and see who stacks up better.
1B- Tex vs Pukeless= Pickem
2B- Cano vs Pedroia= Edge Boston
SS- Jeter vs Green= Edge Yankees
3B- Berroa vs Lowell= Edge Boston
C= Posada vs Varitek= Pickem
RF=Swisher vs Drew= Edge Boston
CF=Ellsbury vs Gardner= Edge Boston
LF= Damon vs Bay= Edge Boston
DH= Matsui vs Ortiz= Edge Boston
So even though Boston has flaws with it’s lineup, it’s still better top to bottom. Even when Arod & Nady return.
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Tex vs. Youk…. Tex
Cano vs Pedroia… Cano
Posada vs Varitek…Posada
Matsui vs Papi….Matsui
Fox Blows
I’m still coping from Friday and yesterday. Went to see The Boss in Hartford Friday night and the game was still on the when the show ended. I watched Marte serve up the game winner to Youkilis among a sea of Sox fans and honestly, was fighting mad.
I was really looking forward/hoping to watching AJ embarass them yesterday. And he did just that, for about 3 innings there and then it was like he got amnesia or something?? I couldn’t understand what I was seeing after he had completely dominated them. He seemed to imply something about selection: maybe he wasn’t throwing what Posada was calling for or something? Were the Sox picking up signs? I am still baffled by what went on in the mid innings of yesterday’s game and I really hope it doesn’t happen again for AJ.
The bullpen, while over worked from Friday, was horrendous again squandering every lead the Yankees would regain. I am still with Pete that they trusted in the wrong guys from the get-go. There are some issues to get through. The Bruney injury is worrisome, as dominant as he can be, can we really trust in him down the stretch injury wise? doubt it. We’re gonna need some help.
It is amazing how the Yankees just allow the Sox to execute. Talk about finding a way to win. The Yankees clearly fold under pressure and the Sox use it to their utmost advantage.
A few quick thoughts:
* With Cody Ransom now out, it kills me to say: hurry up PayRod.
* Robbie Cano carried the entire team yesterday with a little help from Johnny Damon.
* Mark Texiera is Class 1 PROFESSIONAL ball player. His glove at 1B is more than solid, I get excited to see the ball hit his way as he is a master of his craft. I really appreciate his all-around style as a player.
* The Yankees will not regret re-signing Andy Pettitte. I thank god every day he agreed to another year.
Here’s to a nice, tight, quick game tonight…although I highly doubt it will play out that way. GO YANKS!
How did we all sleep last night? Any tossing and turning??
Was there ever a coherent plan for the 2009 Yankees bullpen?