Weird stat of the night
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Jose Molina had a sac bunt and a grand slam in the same inning. That hasn’t happen since May 7, 1975 when Sal Bando of Oakland did it against the California Angels. The Yankees tracked that down via the Elias Sports Bureau.
You know what’s really crazy? Angel Berroa was the next hitter in that game, too. Amazing.
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Chad Jennings
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Josh Thomson
lol at the Berroa diss
Re: What happens if Hughes pitches well, Wang comes back healthy?
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I would be more than happy with a 6 man rotation, and either 1) trading Wang, or 2) just waiting out the season and saying bye-bye to Pettitte. Remember. Pitchers. Get. Hurt. Depth = good.
Not sure how valuable Wang would be on the trading block – I wouldn’t deal him for anything less than a high ceiling OFer, and I honestly don’t think he, even if healthy and dealing from May through July, could land a Maybin/Jones/Rasmus/Fowler/LaPorta. Unless you can get an elite talent of that magnitude, you can’t deal him.
Joba. Is. Not. Going. Back. To. The. Bullpen.
>You know what’s really crazy?
>Angel Berroa was the next hitter in that game, too. Amazing.
i’m cryin over here.
I love the Berroa age references!!!!!
Lol, the Berroa jokes are absolutely hilarious.
Berroa said to Noah, “Take 2 young man, take 2.”
Molina has had some gems, last HR at the old Yankee Stadium and the only Yankee in recent memory to hit a Grand Slam when given the opportunity. Love the Panda, calls a good game too.
Even Angel had a good night tonight with the over the shoulder catch.
WEIRD STAT THAT FINALLY ISNT BEING IGNORED
When Molina catches- we pitch much better and win more
When Posada catches- we pitch terrible and win less
I didn’t get the Berroa dig the first time, and I still don’t. Dude’s like 30.
Mac Daddy –
So true.
LMFAO that was hilarious.
Petros-
Those Berroa jokes really aren’t funny anymore. He doesn’t even look that old. Calm down you fat lard.
Quote by Mac Daddy
“WEIRD STAT THAT FINALLY ISNT BEING IGNORED
When Molina catches- we pitch much better and win more
When Posada catches- we pitch terrible and win less”
Lets not get carried away over here. We were without Posada last year and we didn’t even make the wildcard. Got some proof to go with that “weird stat” you decided to make up?
James
rent “the loved one” too wacky stuff.. wait am I on the negative thread or positive thread?
If you remember when yankee stadium tickets used to be affordable, you might be Angel Berroa.
LMFAO Pete that was a joke for the ages, save that one
Lopez bobbles the ball!! Boston loses!!!
I hope having too many good/healthy starters is a problem they have. Doubt it will ever happen.
6 man rotation? That’s not happening.
Trade Wang? I don’t see why if he comes back to his old self. He is a legit #2 when he’s right.
Joba to pen. I won’t go there.
I can see them possibly putting a kennedy package together for an OF as he virtually has no shot of joining the rotation for years due to lack of space.
It’s one of those “good” problems.
LOL, Peter you are killing me with these Berroa jokes. Love it
And I agree Mac Daddy… I think Molina calls a better game… period!
YES!!! The Blow Sox lose. This IS a great night!
Indians win! they win!!!!
Tampa loses too… they are 8-13
Toronto just keeps rolling though.
and boston loses. nice.
Pretty good nite. NYY win, Tampa and Boston lose.
LOL at the Berroa jokes. He does look really old for a 30 yr old if you see him without his hat or helmet on.
“WEIRD STAT THAT FINALLY ISNT BEING IGNORED
When Molina catches- we pitch much better and win more
When Posada catches- we pitch terrible and win less”
I may have been mistaken but I could have sworn Molina was the catcher when the Yankees LOST yesterday.
Perhaps my eyes weren’t seeing right however.
…and Berroa counters with a fat joke.
Hughes pitched six innings, six innings and already we’re moving Joba, we’re trading Wang. Tomorrow Joba pitches an no hitter and this place will implode. I know there’s a pony here somewhere with all this … on this site.
They aren’t going to trade Wang. At least not anytime soon.
If the Yanks have learned anything it’s that you can’t have enough pitching.
Anyone can go down with an injury at a moment’s notice and nobody saw Wang’s woes coming.
“Tampa loses too… they are 8-13″
I guess Tampa’s season is definitely over.
Yes, Molina was the catcher in the loss last night but CC DID pitch better. It’s one of those intangible things…
My god, these Berroa “jokes” are so played out.
The Stranger April 28th, 2009 at 11:33 pm
…and Berroa counters with a fat joke.
Lol
Pete,
Your Awesome! Barroa jokes are crazy funny.
Phil was awesome.
We need him on the team this year.
Thanks for the Minor league update.
Pete, the AARP is gonna have your glutes pretty soon…
“Yes, Molina was the catcher in the loss last night but CC DID pitch better. It’s one of those intangible things…”
Molina was also the catcher when Mariano blew the game last Friday.
It’s all fun and games until one of Berroa’s grandkids comes up to the press box next week and swipes your Diet Coke.
It seems Robinson Cano isn’t a fan of Angel Berroa either. When Berroa patted him on the shoulder at the end of the game, Cano smacked his hand off and ran off to high-five someone else.
“They still signed Andy Pettitte because they didn’t want to hand Hughes a starting job.
Plus, and this is a very significant point, Hughes has had some durability issues the last two years. He hasn’t pitched a full season since 2006.
I love what I saw from Hughes tonight. But let’s not hand him a Cy Young Award yet. He’s shown flashes of being great more than once and he hasn’t been able to keep rolling.
If you move Joba back into the pen and Hughes gets hurt again or becomes ineffective for one reason or another – then you’re screwed because you can’t keep moving him back and forth and now you’re throwing Kennedy or Aceves out there instead.
Be patient and learn something about this game. They aren’t making a long term decision based on three starts and a 3.94 ERA.”
Patience? This is the New York Yankees. What team did you formally follow?
The whole point of all of this is to have the best team on the field. As someone else pointed out, if Hughes continues to pitch like this, it would send the wrong message to send him down and not Joba. BUT they’re not going to send Joba down.
Joba as of now is a completely different pitcher than what we were all impressed with. Maybe he gets better but Maybe he doesn’t. If he did go back to the pen, it wouldn’t be a temp position.
As you said though, we’ll see.
“They aren’t going to trade Wang. At least not anytime soon.”
Look – I wouldn’t want to deal him, but if you could get Fowler or Rasmus, two guys who are going to be MUCH better than Jackson, for him, I’d do it in a heartbeat.
Toronto has a +40 run differential. Spin it any way you want, that is pretty damn impressive.
(Yanks are -17, thanks in large part to the Wanger.)
Mike Dunn at Trenton
W ERA G GS CG SHO SV IP H R ER HR BB SO GO/AO AVG
1 1 0.77 6 0 0 0 2 11.2 8 2 1 0 2 18 1.13 .190
And a Lefty.
“Hughes pitched six innings, six innings and already we’re moving Joba, we’re trading Wang. Tomorrow Joba pitches an no hitter and this place will implode. I know there’s a pony here somewhere with all this … on this site.”
If that happened then it would be all about who’s getting traded.
The club took a big step in turning the corner…..By the way, CC had a very respectable complete game outing last night….Joba will be lights out tomorrow proving he pounds the strike zone right from the get go….The 2-0 / 3-1 counts are killing him…..
Tampa Bay Rays: 8-13
Could you imagine if the Yankees were 8-13? New York would be in a state of emergency. Fans would be calling for the manager’s head, demanding we trade our entire roster.
Kelsy: You weren’t here last year, were you?
Mariano’s blown save was a fluke, can’t lay that one on Jose-y.
(I hope you know I’m joking, obviously Posada is a better player but there is something to Jose calling a better game. He seems to understand his pitcher’s strong/weak points more.)
Great news about Boston – it’s nice that some team came back on them for once. Toronto looks like they may be for real – the Yankees just need to get their own affairs in order and not worry about the other teams. Stay within striking distanc as the Sox won’t be this hot again all year (most likely) and they will be ok.
“Tampa Bay Rays: 8-13
Could you imagine if the Yankees were 8-13? New York would be in a state of emergency. Fans would be calling for the manager’s head, demanding we trade our entire roster.”
I take it you haven’t been around the past couple of days.
“When Molina catches- we pitch much better and win more
When Posada catches- we pitch terrible and win less”
Get back on your medication.
Rebecca:
Thankfully in a sense, I wasn’t here last year. I was doing my study abroad in Moscow. But I did hear the stories, glad I didn’t witness it in person.
I do remember the state of panic in 2007, I’d just imagine this would be worse, because now we know it’s not just the Sox we’re competing against.
Toronto has great young pitching.
Unlike previous years, their offense looks good. They have the highest average and runs scored in the AL.
If they stay healthy, they’re going to be tough
hahahahahahahhaa berroa
I have to agree, Molina does call a better game pitches wise, especially with younger guys.
Jerry do you have nothing better to do than complain about Brian Cashman on a newspaper blog?
Get a life man!
“Jerry”
April 28th, 2009 at 11:46 pm
“Finally they bought a win, Cashman sucks”
Dude your an idiot!!
Wilkin of the Rose in Tampa
De La Rosa (W, 1-0) 5.0 3 0 0 1 7 0 0.00
Another fireballin Lefty.
The whole point of all of this is to have the best team on the field. As someone else pointed out, if Hughes continues to pitch like this, it would send the wrong message to send him down and not Joba. BUT they’re not going to send Joba down.
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No, it doesn’t send the wrong message at all. Other teams do it like the Red Sox. So why can’t the Yankees do it?
If you are going to develop young pitching like your rivals – you have no choice but to be patient with these kids.
Having six viable starters is a great problem to have. And anyone of those starters could go down at anytime – which means moving Joba to the pen again would be a long term solution to a short term problem.
And it would also open themselves up to more long term problems because Kennedy or Aceves becomes your fifth starter if someone else goes down.
GMs don’t overreact and run their clubs that way. At least not if they want to keep their jobs.
poor Berroa. He’s listed as only being 31 years old…..
I’m pretty sure with Posada as the starting catcher the NY Yankees have won championships and more than 1000 games as well.
I guess suddenly Posada has forgotten how to catch and call games.
By the way, the best game CC has pitched all year was when Posada was behind the plate.
The Yanks were 8-19 two years ago, and made the playoffs….That was the season whe Torre had to use something like 17 different starters before July 4th…….The year before they were 21-29 and still won 95 wins and won the Division……It’s early folks…..Tonight is the type of game that a club can build on….Great outing by Hughes, a game that had the most pressure of any game thus far this season……..
Phil Hughes! Great game.
He’s really developed a lot over the last year. He was the #1 pitcher in the minors with a curveball, fastball, changeup, and slider. Now he’s got a knuckle curve and a cutter.
People need to get lay off Posada. He’s having a great year on offense and his arm has looked very good. There is nothing wrong with the way he calls a game. Some fans don’t realize how valuable his bat is as a catcher. If you think seeing Molina in the lineup more than once a week is a good idea, just look at what Posada has done compared to other catchers since 2000. And speculating on Posada not playing hard or calling a bad game on purpose because he isn’t happy with Girardi is as dumb as it gets.
“Toronto has great young pitching.
Unlike previous years, their offense looks good. They have the highest average and runs scored in the AL.
If they stay healthy, they’re going to be tough”
Don’t count on their pitching staying healthy. They are great at developing pitching, but horrible at keeping it healthy, and it’s an organizational problem. They don’t ‘baby’ their pitchers enough.
Lind and Snider definitely figured things out more quickly than I thought they would.
“Angel Berroa was the next hitter in that game, too. Amazing.”
Yeah, but Alfredo Aceves struck him out to finally end the inning.
“Hughes pitched six innings, six innings and already we’re moving Joba, we’re trading Wang. Tomorrow Joba pitches an no hitter and this place will implode. I know there’s a pony here somewhere with all this … on this site.”
If that happened then it would be all about who’s getting traded
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Now, that’s funny.
Pat M
Good summation, totally agree on CC’s game.
They’re pitching around Teixeira and he’s pressing.
Pete, the Angel Berroa jokes will NEVER get old, they are hilarious.
Good win for the Yankees tonight and great job by Hughes.
V
Lind looks great, along with Aaron Hill. The Jays have so many injuries to their pitching (Ryan, Litsch, Romero, Marcum, McGowan and Janssen) that I a surprised they are doing as well as they are. Most people wouldnt even have a clue who any of their starters are with the exception of Roy Halladay.
Scott Downs is proving to look decent as a closer. Which is good being that Ryan has looked dreadful this year. I guess it makes sense that he is back on the DL which shows he still hasnt full healed from his surgery. What a waste of money he has been.
couple of things- YES had the graphic in the postgame- molina catches, the ERA, hits, W vs L are total opposite than when Posada catches…2nd, posada has 1 WS since he became the everyday catcher, get a clue. 3rd, posada NEVER called a good game or was a good catcher…4th, if it wasnt for mo’s blown save, molinas #’s are even better…5th, CC threw his best game last night although the results weren there…6, when molina took over the every day catcing last year, the yanks playes there best ball of the year; once they brought in pudge, the season was DONE…Molina has to catch more, no debate!
Bo Knows….The Lohud faithful are not always that faithful for the most part…It sways in the wind depending on the outcome of every game……This of course you know
Reminds me of the eager virgin “cmere, go ‘way.
Rinse and Repeat.
We’ll see.
What happens when Posada’s not the every day catcher?
Team doesn’t make the playoffs.
Get over it. We need his bat.
he can DH/PH…if he stays as everyday catcher, watch what happens
Mac Daddy
April 29th, 2009 at 12:14 am
he can DH/PH…if he stays as everyday catcher, watch what happens
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Tell the truth, now. Some farmer grew you from a watermelon seed, didn’t he?
I agree with people complaining about the bench, but you need to remember that Rodriguez and Nady are both on the DL.
Going into spring training the Yankees expected to have Swisher on the bench with as a great 4th outfielder/backup first baseman with a great backup catcher in Molina. Ransom was supposed to be a guy that can backup the other 3 infield positions with good defense because you can’t sign a guy to a big contract for that role when you expect Cano, Jeter, and Rodriguez to start 155 games a year. Gardner/Melky was supposed to be the pinch hitter/defensive replacement off the bench. It looked like a good bench.
The problem is that when Nady got hurt, they didn’t bring anyone up that can hit off the bench. It doesn’t make any sense. Is there really no one in the minors that they can call up to give Girardi an option off the bench? Shelly Duncan?
That would have changed everything yesterday. Then it makes sense to pinch run Gardner for Melky because you can bring Duncan up to hit for Molina with the base open and you can’t walk him because Posada can pinch hit for Pena. Girardi couldn’t have done any better yesterday because he didn’t have anyone on his bench. Having Gardner pinch run and steal makes them walk Posada. You can’t pinch run for Posada because then there’s no catcher. And then you have your worst hitter up trying to win the game.
Berroa ain’t exactly Julio Franco here…
Anyone else think Hughes’ performance tonight (he was really awesome) is going to wake Mr. Joba up?
I wouldn’t be surprised if the radar guns light up his next start and we see the old slider again.
As for Wang, he has to learn how to pitch again. I think if Hughes can pitch well in his absence there will be nor rush to bring Wang up.
Really loved what we saw out of Hughes tonight. I liked him in the post game too. Had a nice presence about him.
GB, You’ve been on a roll all week…..From special ops to sniper all in one day………
“Anyone else think Hughes’ performance tonight (he was really awesome) is going to wake Mr. Joba up?
I wouldn’t be surprised if the radar guns light up his next start and we see the old slider again. ”
Eh, I’m not so sure about that. I don’t think Joba’s velocity is due to ‘not trying hard enough.’ I wonder if he’s not in the best of shape yet.
Pat M
April 29th, 2009 at 12:36 am
GB, You’ve been on a roll all week…..From special ops to sniper all in one day………
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I get carried away with some of the ridiculous statements made and I think that I’m on a SWAT team and they’re the flies..
Chamberlain is still trying to learn how to pace himself. He’ll learn that at crucial times that it’s alright to throw a max effort pitch.
Ok Pete I gotta give it to ya, the Berroa thing had me laughing out loud!
Your the offical exterminator
“Chamberlain is still trying to learn how to pace himself. He’ll learn that at crucial times that it’s alright to throw a max effort pitch.”
I dunno. He hasn’t topped 96 yet this year, and he’s averaging 92. I’d like to see at least ONE 99 somewhere.
I don’t care if he hits 95-96 MPH or not as long as he puts the ball where he wants it and gets outs. Speed is nice…location and movement’s better.
Yo, honestly Pete Stays gettin me with the angel berroa jokes, I always fall for them for like 3 seconds and then i realize its a friggin joke. Youre good at setting those up Pete hahaaha
Molina vs. Posada – anyone want to do a split showing pitching stats for the season so far?