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Game 25: Angels at Yankees (with Girardi pre-game audio)

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YANKEES (13-11)
Jeter SS
Damon LF
Teixeira 1B
Matsui DH
Posada C
Cano 2B
Cabrera RF
Berroa 3B
Gardner CF

Pitching: RHP Phil Hughes (1-0, 0.00).

ANGELS (10-13)
Lineup TBA

Pitching: LHP Joe Saunders (2-1, 3.51)

TIME/TV: First pitch at 1:05. The game is on YES.

WEATHER: It’s raining in the Bronx at the moment. I have no idea whether they can get the game in or not or what their plans would be for a rainout. Given the the Angels aren’t back here again this season, they’ll wait a while to try and play.

SERIES FINALE: The Yankees won two of the first three games in the four-game series. They were beaten 8-4 yesterday as CC Sabathia fell to 1-3.

HUGHES PART TWO: Phil Hughes returned to the team in Detroit on Tuesday and threw six scoreless innings. This will be his second start.

NO LEAD SAFE: The Yankees have had at least a one-run lead in seven of their 11 losses.

LEADING THE LEAGUE: The Yankees’ 5.93 ERA is the worst in baseball.

OFF THE MARK: Mark Teixeira is 2 for 27 (.074) in his last eight games. He has not driven in a run since April 24. His batting average has gone from a bad .240 to an atrocious .182. Teixeira said his sore left wrist has improved enough in the last week to allow him to start again working in the cage before games and he is hopeful his production will increase. His eye remains sharp as he has 11 walks during his slump.

JOSE CAN YOU GET AN OUT: The last four games for Jose Veras: 2.2 innings, 5 hits, 5 runs, 4 walks, 1 strikeout.

THE KEY: The Yankees are 11-3 when they don’t make an error, 2-8 when they do.

DISAPPEARING DAMO: LHP Damaso Marte hasn’t pitched since April 25 in Boston. He has gone unused for seven games. That probably means he has some sort of injury. Although it’s possible Joe Girardi has figured out that the best role for Marte is no role at all.

HIT-DEKI: Hideki Matsui has hit in 12 straight at 17 of 46 (.370) with six extra-base hits and nine RBI.

MELKY’S THE MAN: Melky Cabrera has hit in seven straight at 10 of 27.

HOME COOKING: The Yankees are 6-3 at the new Stadium.

Back with more later.

UPDATE, 10:12 a.m.: RHP Anthony Claggett is here. No word on who is out.

UPDATE, 10:23 a.m.: Just spoke to Damaso Marte, who said his shoulder has bothered him for a week. He’ll be seeing a doctor, he said.

Perhaps he is headed for the DL.

“It’s not that bad, but it hurts,” he said. “I did it in Boston.”

UPDATE, 10:59 a.m.: Marte is in fact on the DL.

UPDATE, 11:28 a.m.: Girardi is 30 minutes to his pre-game press conference and no lineup is posted. Something is up.

UPDATE, 11:57 a.m.: The delay involved meeting with Marte. They also determined that Swisher would be available only to DH.

Meanwhile, when asked about MLB’s investigation about Alex Rodriguez, Girardi spoke out against Selena Roberts’ book on Rodriguez. He questioned the release date of the book and her motives.

It came out of left field and Girardi grew pretty emotional. You need to listen to this:

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UPDATE, 12:02 p.m.: It’s raining here and the tarp is down. There is next-to-no chance that the game starts on time unless it stops raining in the next five minutes.

The weather report is not good for today, or tomorrow for that matter.

Meanwhile, Girardi they wanted Berroa in there against a lefty.

UPDATE, 12:29 p.m.: Here are some of Girardi’s comments:

“I don’t want this Alex thing to be a target. I have some issues with it. It’s interesting how the book (publication) date got moved up now. I get tired of answering these questions. I don’t understand why someone would write a book like this anyway. You know what, some people may not care to hear that, but I don’t understand it.

“Just going into someone’s life. I have three small kids and there are things in my life that I probably wish I could have a re-do on. I wouldn’t want those dragged through the mud and I’m sure you wouldn’t, either.

“I think sometimes, things are written about that none of us are proud of There are things in my life I’m not proud of that I’ve done. I wouldn’t want my kids to have to deal with that. I tell my kids that daddy makes mistakes, I do. And I apologize for them. I say, ‘Daddy’s not perfect.’

UPDATE, 12:28 p.m.: More from Girardi:

“From the excerpts that I have read, there are negative things about his lifestyle. I’m a firm believer that what we do off the field is our personal life. Some people aren’t going to agree with my faith. Some people aren’t going to agree with all the things I do with my life. But I don’t necessarily know why it has to be in a book. It’s something I’ve never understood, whether it’s a book about Alex or other people. Whether it’s a book about a president or a book about whoever. I just don’t understand it. Maybe that’s a short-sighting on my part, but I don’t understand.

“My parents always taught me that talk about the good. Be positive. That might be, you know, that might be me being somewhat short-sighted. But my Mom and Dad always taught me and I love them to death.”

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The response came to a question about MLB’s investigation into Alex, which is certainly a concern for the Yankees. It’s hard to fault any manager for defending his player.

But if somebody becomes the president or the best player in baseball, people are going to be interested in their lives. That’s just how it works. If you won’t want somebody to be interested in your life, don’t go into public life. It’s really not that complicated.

I’m also not sure why Girardi brought up religion. As far as I know, nobody has ever mentioned his religion or anybody else’s in relation to the Yankees.

However well-intentioned Girardi may have been today, his comments will only serve to continue the story.

UPDATE, 12:44 p.m.: Still raining. The start of the game will be delayed, that’s for sure. No word on what the team plans.

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591 Responses to “Game 25: Angels at Yankees (with Girardi pre-game audio)”

  1. Paddy R May 3rd, 2009 at 9:35 am

    take the series!

  2. Emobacca May 3rd, 2009 at 9:40 am

    It doesnt look like a washout out but I hope the rain stays away so I don’t get rained on all game like Friday night.

  3. SJ44 May 3rd, 2009 at 9:41 am

    Here’s hoping they get the game in today, and this is an Arod Free thread.

    His story is so tired and played out. Not the least of which is the fact that he isn’t on the team at the present time and they have much more pressing matters than the Arod Story De Jour of a given day.

    Namely, a horrific bullpen that renders the manager helpless in game situations on a daily basis.

    Here’s hoping for 8 strong from Hughes and a Mo save.

    Its pretty much the only way the guy can manage with a bullpen this bad these days.

  4. pat May 3rd, 2009 at 9:42 am

    Today is Tex’s day. I can feel it.

  5. Tantron Willoughby May 3rd, 2009 at 9:47 am

    The real question is whether Sabathia is going through his usual early season stinkers or if he can’t handle NY. There is zero excuse for Texeira’s slow start. IF I understand correctly, his paychecks arrive in a timely manner, rich boy better start producing fast.

  6. S.A.--It's a marathon, not a sprint. Calm down. May 3rd, 2009 at 9:49 am

    Hughesie!

    Yucky day. Drizzling in Jersey right now. Looks like it is gonna get more gross later.

    http://www.wunderground.com/ra.....8;ID=OKX19

  7. murphydog May 3rd, 2009 at 9:50 am

    “Namely, a horrific bullpen that renders the manager helpless in game situations on a daily basis.”

    So painfully true. On the other hand:

    “There is zero excuse for Texeira’s slow start.”

    Mr. Willoughby, check the record: he’s had a slow start every year. Also, he’s had a documented wrist problem.

  8. Jeff NJ May 3rd, 2009 at 9:53 am

    Well as much as I hate to disobey an SJ44 edict, I went to sleep early last night and didn’t get to give my two cents on A Rod so here it is:

    If Alex was calling pitches from short, isn’t it possible that an opposing batter would be able to steal those signs from A Rod? That at least gives A Rod plausible deniability.

  9. Yankee Trader May 3rd, 2009 at 9:55 am

    Any guesses as to the pitching staff, when Wang comes back.

    Also is Bruney’s injury to the flexor tendon? Ben Sheets had surgery for torn flexor tendon. If this is so, I’d be concerned about Bruneys ability to complete the season.

    Interesting stat: Righties hitting @ .467 average against Rivera. Luckily he hasn’t walked anyone. Coke with best WHIP. If we don’t get the bullpen straightened out soon, our offense will have to score 6-7 runs a game to stay in the game!!

  10. Doreen May 3rd, 2009 at 10:00 am

    Jeff NJ -

    Interesting take on the situation. He may have “inadvertently” been tipping. Hmmmm.

    Hope Hughes as a good day today. Don’t envy these guys playing in the yucky weather, though.

    It’s time for Teixeira to start moving in a forward direction. I know the guy came with a warning that he’s a slow starter, but, man, it’s like he’s moving in reverse! Thank heavens he’s still taking his BBs and there don’t seem to be problems in the field. I thought, though, that he’d started taking BP over a week ago – I mean I know I read it somewhere. So, did he start, then stop? Whatever. Makes no difference. He needs to drive in some runs, not just score them.

  11. Joe from Long Island May 3rd, 2009 at 10:02 am

    A more reliable BP may have meant an earlier exit for CC yesterday. It certainly would have meant fewer runs scored, and a more manageable deficit.

    Oh, well. As Swish might say, make yesterday an “Etch-a-sketch” game, and have it go away with a win today.

  12. Doreen May 3rd, 2009 at 10:05 am

    Joe from LI -

    You know – depending on use, eventually, the Etch-A-Sketch gets scratched and the erasing doesn’t work so well. :)

    It’s still early, though. I’m sure the starters will get better. I’m not so sure, given the nature of middle relief pitchers in general, about the BP. I’m hopeful anyway, though.

  13. murphydog May 3rd, 2009 at 10:09 am

    “A more reliable BP may have meant an earlier exit for CC yesterday. It certainly would have meant fewer runs scored, and a more manageable deficit.”

    Very True.

    CC took one for the bullpen yesterday. That’s the same stand up guy that pitched on three days rest at the end of last year to carry The Brew Crew. I’m taking that as good news even though the results weren’t too good. In CC, I’m still saying the Yankees got what they paid for, at least in terms of character if dominating performance hasn’t consistently appeared yet.

  14. GreenBeret7 May 3rd, 2009 at 10:12 am

    Right handed hitters have always hit Rivera better than left handed hitters have. It’s time for him to break out his change-up.

  15. 86w183 May 3rd, 2009 at 10:16 am

    Since they have to bring the bullpen along to have any chance there is one key adjustment Girardi needs to make.

    Try to make changes between innings.

    The fewer times you put relievers into stressful situations the better your chances of them performing better. They might have melted down the last two games anyway, but if Pettite doesn’t start the sixth on Friday and Sabathia doesn’t start the 7th on Sunday myabe, just maybe they do better. Pettite was an obvious call, Sabathia would have been trickier, but I’m nt a fan pf 115-plus pitches early in the season.

  16. CB May 3rd, 2009 at 10:16 am

    “A more reliable BP may have meant an earlier exit for CC yesterday.”

    Sure. And a more reliable CC would have gotten through the 7nth precluding the need for Veras and Albaladejo to pitch.

    The yanks are 13-11 and here’s how they stack up:

    Runs Scored – 138 – 3rd most in baseball
    OPS – .825 – 4th highest in baseball

    Starting Pitching ERA – 5.52 – 26th in baseball.

    Bull pen ERA – 6.69 – 29th in baseball.

    If you want to explain why they are 13-11 to this point in time you can’t just remove Wang’s starts as if they didn’t happen. His bad starts have almost exclusively lead to 25% of their losses to date.

    And even if you take out Wang’s starts the rotation’s ERA still isn’t very good.

    That this bull pen has the 29th worst ERA in baseball is enormously disappointing.

    That this rotation has the 26th worst ERA in baseball is unfathomable.

    Bull pen has been a big problem. But the rotation has been an even bigger problem.

    This team was supposed to win based on starting pitching. That’s how it was designed.

    To somehow place such a disproportional amount of focus on the bull pen is to lose sight of where the strength of the team was supposed to lie.

    Each time through the rotation the bull pen should be pitching now more than 12-13 innings. The starters should be able to give them at least 33 inning each time through.

    The staff hasn’t come close to that bearing their share of the load.

  17. Yankee Trader May 3rd, 2009 at 10:18 am

    If this article is accurate, don’t expect any changes to the makeup or management of the bullpen.

    http://newyork.yankees.mlb.com.....8;c_id=nyy

  18. 86w183 May 3rd, 2009 at 10:21 am

    Why oh why have there not been any personnel moves? Veras (8.03) has to go somewhere else and get straightened out.

  19. jennifer May 3rd, 2009 at 10:22 am

    Alby or Veras gone?

  20. pat May 3rd, 2009 at 10:23 am

    Doreen

    The good thing about an Etch a sketch is getting a new one is pretty inexpensive. Now replacing Play Stations and XBoxes are a different story. :wink:

  21. Joe from Long Island May 3rd, 2009 at 10:25 am

    Doreen – I always took good care of my toys. And I’m too 20th century for X-boxes and the like.

  22. Yankee Trader May 3rd, 2009 at 10:26 am

    GB-7

    What do you think about bringing up ambidexterous reliever Pat Venditti, from Charleston, to give our bullpen a different look !!!!!

    http://www.minorleaguebaseball.....38;cid=233

  23. Richie May 3rd, 2009 at 10:27 am

    The 40 man issue is apparently blocking Tomko.

  24. Steve in MN May 3rd, 2009 at 10:27 am

    god i hope its veras going down for clagget.

  25. abcd May 3rd, 2009 at 10:28 am

    sj – it can’t be an arod free thread when you are the first to bring him up – lol…

    just a quick quip – the investigation was going on since march 1st but the story comes out now? i guess they asked selena roberts recently and after she declined, she leaked this story out to her pals at the times.

    let’s go phil hughes…a win here would be phil HUGE…

  26. Doreen May 3rd, 2009 at 10:30 am

    pat -

    So, is the bullpen an Etch-a-Sketch or an X-Box? (I know right now it’s at least an X-factor. :) )

    Joe for LI –

    We didn’t get a playstation (PS2) until most of the world already had one, and then, only because it did double-duty as a DVD player (which is what we mostly used it as).

    We did, however, jump on the Wii bandwagon, for some reason, only about one shopping season after it originally came out. Oh, yeah, the reason was because PS2 broke (DVD got stuck inside).

    My girls aren’t big into video games, but love the guitar hero, karaoke stuff.

    And I KNOW we’re the last “kids” on the block to get a flat screen with HD. :)

  27. jennifer May 3rd, 2009 at 10:32 am

    http://www.weather.com/weather.....ayer=radar

    I don’t see how this game will be played. Huge line of rain coming through.

  28. ANSKY May 3rd, 2009 at 10:32 am

    “That this rotation has the 26th worst ERA in baseball is unfathomable.”

    CB – If you take away Wang’s few disastrous innings, it’s probably not that bad.

    Further, if there were a bullpen worth going to, Girardi probably would have gone to it sooner on a few occasions and the rest of the rotation would have better ERA’s. In just the last couple games, I bet he wished he could have taken Pettitte & Sabathia out sooner but he couldn’t.

    Still, the stats are there and that’s what it is.

  29. SJ44 May 3rd, 2009 at 10:35 am

    Pat Vendette is nowhere close to being ML ready.

    He also throws 85 MPH. Nice novelty but, he would get smoked at the ML level.

    Nobody on any South Atlantic league roster (lower A Ball) is ready for the major leagues.

    If Marte is hurt, put him on the DL. They also need to get down to 12 pitchers on the roster and get another position player on the roster.

    If they can’t find 6 other guys besides Mariano who can pitch out of the bullpen, adding a 7th pitcher won’t help as much as a bat.

    They will need the bat because they will have to win shootouts.

    Bad relief pitchers, unless they can swing a bat, can’t help you win shootouts.

  30. SJ44 May 3rd, 2009 at 10:36 am

    Veras can’t be sent down. He’s out of options.
    He either has to stay on the rotation, and hurt this team every day he is on it, or be released.

    I’d vote for the latter but, I’m not the GM.

  31. Rob NY -- 2009 The Road to Redemption May 3rd, 2009 at 10:37 am

    “Further, if there were a bullpen worth going to, Girardi probably would have gone to it sooner on a few occasions and the rest of the rotation would have better ERA’s.”

    It’s the chicken and the egg. The more I think about it the more I want to adopt SJ44′s outlook and say “No more damn excuses.” Because whether the bullpen stinks because the starting pitching won’t give innings or the Rotation stinks because the bullpen can’t get outs, the pitching just stinks.

    That can start with another stop from the Phranchise but I suppose that’s asking a lot. Not sure if another rookie/young guy (Anthony Clagget) is the answer but Cashman needs to shake things up. Trying out farmhands has to be step one so early in the season I suppose.

  32. jennifer May 3rd, 2009 at 10:38 am

    I’m saying Veras dl, or DFA. He is killing this team.

  33. Rob NY -- 2009 The Road to Redemption May 3rd, 2009 at 10:38 am

    *that can stop with another good start

  34. Yankee Trader May 3rd, 2009 at 10:39 am

    “Alby or Veras gone?”

    Veras out of options. Maybe Ramirez sent down. We need a reliever who can actually throw strikes, without a first pitch fastball down the middle of the plate.

  35. jennifer May 3rd, 2009 at 10:39 am

    Okay looks like Marte to the dl.

  36. 56Bomber May 3rd, 2009 at 10:39 am

    Tipping off pitches and deliberately tipping off pitches are two completely different issues. Whether Alex did or did not do it deliberately will be impossible to prove…so its a non issue.

  37. BBFan May 3rd, 2009 at 10:41 am

    Yesterday, so many include Pete were bashing Girardi for not using Marte for a week. How do you feel now, given that he has a shoulder issue?

    It is easy to second guess….without knowing the facts.

  38. Richie May 3rd, 2009 at 10:41 am

    Marte has basically been hurt to one degree or another since that unfortunate trade.

  39. 56Bomber May 3rd, 2009 at 10:43 am

    Bashing Girardi for not using Marte? Next we’ll be bashing Girardi for not using Veras.

  40. CB May 3rd, 2009 at 10:43 am

    “if there were a bullpen worth going to, Girardi probably would have gone to it sooner on a few occasions and the rest of the rotation would have better ERA’s.”

    But that’s the whole point. When you have a staff of Sabathia, Burnett, Wang, Pettite, and Chamberlain it is supposed to be the rotation that helps out the pen on the whole.

    It is supposed to be the rotation that prevents Edwar Ramirez, Veras, and Albaldejo from pitching additional marginal innings.

    I agree that CC pitched well enough yesterday. Not great. Not terrible.

    I also agree that Girardi left him in to throw 119 pitches because he has no confidence in the pen.

    But at the same time, when CC knows the pen is struggling so badly, why is he at 119 pitches before completing 7 innings?

    Shouldn’t yesterday have been about CC picking up the pen?

    But instead people are expecting Jonathan Albaladejo to pick up the guy who is supposed to be the ace of the staff?

    It would be one thing if CC was pitching into the 8th.

    But it’s really not too much to expect from CC against a very light hitting, highly impatient team that takes no pitches and doesn’t get on base much to throw 7 strong, complete innings without getting to 119 pitches.

    The angels are one of the least patient teams in baseball.

    But Jonathan Albaladejo is supposed to compensate for CC’s lack of control?

  41. SJ44 May 3rd, 2009 at 10:43 am

    Let’s not dance around the 2,000 lb elephant in the room, folks.

    There is a solution to the Yankees bullpen issues internally.

    They just can’t go to it…..yet.

    Let’s reconvene on this issue in another month.

    If Wang is back and Hughes is pitching well enough (ie: as an average #5 starter), let’s see how long they stay with the “status quo” in the bullpen.

    With empty seats littering a billion dollar + ballpark, the worst starting and bullpen pitching in baseball, and a 210 million dollar payroll, its pretty hard to sell that this is a “rebuilding year” in the Bronx.

    Whether its the right move or wrong move long term for the franchise, unless a lot of things happen differently, it looks more and more likely to me that Joba is going to have to go back to the ‘pen.

    Is that an indictment on the entire organization and their failure to address bullpen issues? Absolutely.

    However, when you have the issues the Yankees have as outlined in the 6th paragraph of this post, I find it hard to believe they are going to stay hardline and keep Chamberlain in the bullpen all season.

    It may happen (he stays in the rotation) but, I’ll believe it when I see it.

  42. Orlando Chris May 3rd, 2009 at 10:44 am

    Here’s to hoping that Tex will see better pitches to hit after, er, the regular 3d baseman :) returns to the lineup.

  43. murphydog May 3rd, 2009 at 10:47 am

    “It is easy to second guess….without knowing the facts.”

    But if the facts are withheld, or not disclosed, you go with what you know at the time.

  44. Bad Scooter May 3rd, 2009 at 10:47 am

    They don’t need 8 guys in the pen when Girardi doesn’t use them all, it wastes a spot. Bring up Miranda. They’re bringing Claggett up, he’ll never get in a game. Hopefully Veras is gone. If Marte is hurt, DL him. I actually think he’ll be alright once he gets healthy. He’s been bad, but he didn’t get enough work in the spring with the WBC and being injured.

    Lots of work to be done with the pen, they have time to straighten it out. I’m not worried about the rotation, these guys have track records and will produce. Most of the guys in the pen have track records, too. Bad ones.

    If we go in house to settle the pen and everyone can get healthy this is what we’ll have in a few months.

    Mo
    Bruney
    Coke
    Melancon
    Marte
    Robertson or Ramirez
    Aceves (we need a long guy and this guy is perfect)

    We need a long guy because there will be days your starter doesn’t have it or gets injured in the 2nd and you need someone to bite the bullet and go 5 innings. Having this means we don’t have to pitch 5 different guys to get through 5 and won’t wear out the pen. I honestly believe that’s why this pen sucks, no defined roles yet because the starters have been bad and no long man to give them innings.

  45. 56Bomber May 3rd, 2009 at 10:48 am

    Any decision to move Joba will wait until Bruney comes back and shows that he is healthy or not. With a healthy Bruney and Melancon, the need to put Joba in the BP is lessened significantly. Both he and Phil will have significant innings limitations, so I can see them alternating starts at some point in the season.

  46. BBFan May 3rd, 2009 at 10:48 am

    It is unbeleivable about this Job to bullpen debate.

    Many claim that our farm system is overflowing with pitching talent at higher levels and hitters are way down in the farm.

    What happened? Does this mean we have a very weak farm system in all respects?

  47. William Buckner May 3rd, 2009 at 10:48 am

    “Veras can’t be sent down. He’s out of options.
    He either has to stay on the rotation, and hurt this team every day he is on it, or be released.”

    That would help on two fronts. It would perge the worst pitcher on the team. And it would open a 40 man roster spot. Hopefully they’d use it on John Rodriguez. Even Shelly Duncan could provide some depth.

  48. SJ44 May 3rd, 2009 at 10:48 am

    CB,

    I agree with all that. However, especially in AL baseball, you have to have at least 4 guys in the ‘pen who can be at least servicable ML pitchers.

    The Yankees have 2, Coke and Rivera.

    I don’t care how good the starters are, that’s not enough.

    I completely agree about the disappoint of the starters so far.

    However, the bullpen trumps it because Girardi is pushing the envelope with the starters, this early in the season no less, because his bullpen is awful.

    That’s hard to do and win games on a consistent basis.

    Both areas (starters and bullpen) have to improve.

    Looking at the back of their collective baseball cards, you have to believe the starters will get better.

    Using the same analysis for the bullpen? Its hard to believe the majority of these guys are more than what they have shown themselves to be…..fringe major league players.

  49. 86w183 May 3rd, 2009 at 10:49 am

    If it’s Claggett wouldn’t it be easier to just put a ball on a tee? You mean to tell me they are so afraid of losing one of these fringe/mediocre RHP to do something else? Pitiful roster management bites the Yanks in the arse again!
    Why not call up Jackson instead of him pitching three inning in Scranton?

  50. Yankee Trader May 3rd, 2009 at 10:49 am

    “Not sure if another rookie/young guy (Anthony Clagget) is the answer but Cashman needs to shake things up.”

    Agree with you about shaking things up, but Clagget is still probably traumatized from his disaterous showing in the bigs. Which pitcher on the 40 man roster would be an improvement??

    Definitely agree that another bat, probably an outfielder, needs to be brought up. Jackson, Duncan, Linden, Rodriguez, all doing well in AAA, however none on the 40 man roster.

  51. murphydog May 3rd, 2009 at 10:50 am

    “However, when you have the issues the Yankees have as outlined in the 6th paragraph of this post, I find it hard to believe they are going to stay hardline and keep Chamberlain in the bullpen all season.”

    Mortgaging the future again, aka, win now. Wouldn’t be the first time, would it?

  52. 56Bomber May 3rd, 2009 at 10:50 am

    SJ44 – both Melancon and a healthy Bruney are “serviceable”..no?

  53. Doreen May 3rd, 2009 at 10:53 am

    Re The Elephant (not currently) in the bullpen.

    We are all assuming the Joba is going to be the same in the BP that he was that first, almost storybook, time.

    Things will shake out how they’re meant to. Time will tell.

  54. BBFan May 3rd, 2009 at 10:54 am

    “But if the facts are withheld, or not disclosed, you go with what you know at the time.”

    They must have thought it is a minor thing and will celar up soon. Also, possible they want the oppsoing manager think that Marte is avaialble if needed.

    The point is the arm-chair managers here think they are better than the coaches and they know about the situation better than the coaches who have direct information. And they conclude Girardi is a bad bullpen manager and should be fired. Gosh :)

  55. Bad Scooter May 3rd, 2009 at 10:55 am

    Pitchers who can’t start go to the bullpen. Pitchers who can start and dominate should stay there. End of discussion.

  56. Betsy May 3rd, 2009 at 10:59 am

    This is ridiculous – Marte’s been hurting and the Yankees didn’t get it checked out until now? Damon’s hurting and they’re letting him dictate whether he gets checked out? What is going on with this organization? Man, I’m pissed off. Claggett? Unbelievable – why not Aceves?

  57. Yankee Trader May 3rd, 2009 at 10:59 am

    “The point is the arm-chair managers here think they are better than the coaches and they know about the situation better than the coaches who have direct information. And they conclude Girardi is a bad bullpen manager and should be fired. Gosh”

    I don’t think anyone has been slamming Girardi for bullpen management today!

    As far as Bruney is concerned, he’s been a health concern the last few years.

    Has Marte been put on the DL?

  58. SJ44 May 3rd, 2009 at 11:01 am

    BBFan,

    It means prospects are prospects until proven otherwise.

    Two years ago, Homer Bailey was the #1 pitching prospect in all of baseball. Clay Buchholz, not Jon Lester, was the Red Sox “prize” pitching prospect, and Phil Hughes, not Joba Chamberlain was the same for the Yankees.

    We see how its all played out 2 years later.

    Some guys make it. Some guys don’t. Some guys fall in between.

    Bottom line though, somebody has to cover these innings effectively. If not, I don’t care what Arod does when he gets back, its not a playoff team.

    What do they do with Chamberlain? Keep him in the rotation and basically tell ownership and the fans, this is a rebuilding year? Or, do you put him back in the bullpen (provided other circumstances take place), deepen it and make a run?

    If it was me, I’d keep him in the rotation.

    The only caveat? If I’m watching my season go down the drain in another month because of a bad bullpen, I have to make some tough decisions because the “rebuilding” line for this season went out the window when they spent 423 million dollars on Tex, CC and AJ.

    Here is one HUGE negative about the New York Yankees.

    Their annual mantra…..”We want to win the World Series every year”.

    With that mantra comes foolish decisionmaking.

    If the mantra is to “win the World Series every year”, then unfortunately Chamberlain isn’t long for the rotation unless Wang and Hughes fall completely off the map.

    There is no rebuilding or break in period with players with this franchise.

    Look at the scrutiny Tex and CC are getting right now.

    Personally, I think that’s a BIG problem. But, I could see another month of bullpen futility leading to panic on River Ave.

    The folks with the Yankees panic over the little things. The big things? They tend to lose their minds.

    A big problem re: the operation of this franchise, IMO.

  59. John May 3rd, 2009 at 11:02 am

    I just don’t get Aceves not coming up or starting in the pen this year. I think he can definitely be the long reliever we need, but potentially a good seventh inning guy. He simply throws strikes which Veras and others don’t do. I can deal with a homer here and there, but these guys compound the issues by walking guys ahead of those mistakes. Yankees have yet to find a guy to come in a close the damage. Coke has been much better, but as with Mark the other night, they need one out and didn’t get it. That is pretty much why you see Girardi trying to let the starters pitch throw innings even at their pitch counts. Who is better suited a tired CC, Andy or one of these other guys other than Mo?

  60. Aunt Becca-Optimist Prime May 3rd, 2009 at 11:03 am

    Hey everyone!

    So it’s raining now and looks like it’ll rain for a while-the band stretches back into PA, but after that’s it’s clear.

    I won’t be surprised the game starts at, say, 3 instead of 1, but then I’m not a weatherman.

  61. Cal May 3rd, 2009 at 11:04 am

    Nice contract Cashman gave to that DumbA$$o Marte, maybe he has a few more WBC games he can go play in and then claim he is hurt. Its loser players like these that have created the atmosphere that the Yankees have today of overpaid players who never seem to pull their weight. This guy is a walking disgrace since coming to the Yankees and Cashman must be a real genius giving him a 3 year deal in this market of relievers. What a joke Marte is, maybe he can feign injury all season, bloody coward.

  62. rconn23 May 3rd, 2009 at 11:04 am

    I think the key to fixing the bullpen is whether Wang can come back to being an effective pitcher. I have to say, I’m not as confident as others that he will.

    Because he doesn’t strike out anybody, he’s always walked a tight rope. And he’s an absolute mess right now.

    Only if Wang comes back 100 percent can you send Joba back to the pen. Obviously, Hughes has to be effective as well. Today’s start for is huge for Hughes. If he starts nibbling against a team that lacks plate discipline like the Angels, that doesn’t portend good things.

  63. SJ44 May 3rd, 2009 at 11:06 am

    Let me be clear about something…..

    If I was Cashman, I wouldn’t put Chamberlain in the bullpen unless he physically can’t be a starter.

    I would give a collective middle finger to anybody who thinks otherwise.

    But, I know how this organization gets when they are in panic mode.

    Right now, its not Defcon 5. The mantra is, “When Arod gets back”…..

    However, when Arod gets back, along with Wang, and if Hughes continues to pitch well AND the bullpen continues to be horrible? That’s when its Defcon 5 in terms of Yankee organizational panic.

    The what if examples I am bringing up are things that could happen and how I think management will react to them.

    Could I be wrong? Absolutely.

    Just watching the season shape up thus far, it does seem like this decision (where to put Joba) is going to rear its ugly head again.

  64. CB May 3rd, 2009 at 11:08 am

    The notion that the bull pen is so bad and options are so limited that Joba needs to go to the pen are ones I completely disagree with.

    But…

    If the bull pen is so hopeless that all of the internal bull pen options are null AND trade possibilities for external arms are so impossible that a starting pitcher needs to be relegated to the pen it’s very obvious what the team should do.

    They should clearly move AJ Burnett to the pen.

    Burnett’s salary is immaterial. It is a fixed cost and as such a sunk cost. If it is true that the yankees in their new stadium cannot tolerate any threat of a “rebuilding” season then the sunk cost of Burnett’s salary is in no way a reason to keep him in the rotation. His salary is a pittance compared to the total revenue issues we are talking about.

    And Burnett’s current year salary is miniscule compared to the value of Joba as a cost controlled front line starter should he develop as such.

    Burnett is 32. The probability of him becoming an “ace” over the next 2-3 years is lower than it is for Joba. For Burnett to become an ace he would have to be the encore performance of Curt Schilling.

    That is far less probable than it is for Joba to fulfill his potential.

    Given that the opportunity cost of moving Burnett to the pen rather than Joba is far, far lower.

    Some argue that the yankee organization is uncertain if Joba can handle a full season’s work load as a starter.

    I guarantee there are people in the yankee’s organization who are uncertain if AJ Burnett can handle a 200 inning season and stay healthy. In fact Cashman himself has said Burnett is a significant risk (though one worth taking) because of his injury history.

    While it is theoretically possible that Joba can’t throw 200 innings as a starter – there is ZERO evidence that he can’t. There is simply no definitive evidence of his inability to do so. If all young pitchers with a mild case of shoulder tendinitis were deemed completely incapable of throwing 200 innings a lot of pitchers would have had their careers in the rotation cut short.

    AJ Burnett on the other hand has demonstrated repeatedly that he cannot throw 200 inning seasons with any consistency.

    Burnett has demonstrated the exact inability that people are projecting abstractly onto Joba. But the difference is that Burnett has already empirically shown that he breaks down. He’s shown this on the field. We know this. We have no clue whether or not this is true for Joba.

    One of the main reasons to send Burnett to the pen is that he truly only throws 2 pitches. That’s it. Only 2. At this point in his career he is not going to suddenly start throwing his change.

    Joba on the other hand throws 4 pitches.

    So Burnett’s limited arsenal is much better equiped for the pen than Joba’s is.

    Burnett as a starter is throwing in the low to mid 90′s. As a reliever he could let it go and throw in the high 90′s all the time. He could sit at 100 as a reliever. As throwing hard is such a big deal in the whole Joba to the pen argument the same should hold for Burnett.

    Part of the reason people are saying Joba should go to the pen is that he hasn’t been great this season as a starter. Now last season as a starter he was dominant so we know he can thrive as a starter. But the handful starts he’s made this season have given people pause.

    Well, AJ burnett hasn’t been very good in his starts either. Sure he has a longer track record. But that track record is of wild inconsistency.

    Given all of this – the logic of moving Burnett to the pen is much better than moving Joba to the pen.

    Now the logic of doing either is daft, but if you are going to say that they need to move Joba to the pen there is little reason for why they shouldn’t move AJ to the pen first.

  65. Cal May 3rd, 2009 at 11:08 am

    Boy we pulled off a whopper in that Nady/Marte deal from Pittsburgh, real quality performances have been the reward I see. Amazing how things work out.

  66. AD May 3rd, 2009 at 11:08 am

    Wonder What the Yanks Team ERA is if you Take out Wangs 34+

  67. SJ44 May 3rd, 2009 at 11:09 am

    I don’t think they can bring up Jackson for 10 days because they just sent him down.

    murph,

    That’s why the company mission statement of, “We want to win the World Series every year” does more harm than good.

    It almost precludes long term thinking. That’s why the franchise has been run in such a spotty fashion.

  68. 86w183 May 3rd, 2009 at 11:09 am

    On that line the Yankees have never committed to a rebuilding year. Instead they have been trying to find a mix between getting younger and mroe athletic while remaining a W.S. contender and that’s almost impossible.

    As a result the don’t address CF, but they do spend hundreds of millions on FA. They spend most of that money on two starting pitchers yet have relatively inexperienced guys in the bullpen.

    Team Sybyl continues to make moves towards getting younger, cheaper and more athletic followed by moves that makes them older, more experienced and more expensive.

    Stay tuned!

  69. Cal May 3rd, 2009 at 11:12 am

    “As a result the don’t address CF, but they do spend hundreds of millions on FA. They spend most of that money on two starting pitchers yet have relatively inexperienced guys in the bullpen.
    Team Sybyl continues to make moves towards getting younger, cheaper and more athletic followed by moves that makes them older, more experienced and more expensive.”

    Lets be honest, looking at this pen no way did anyone think it would be the worst in baseball, I mean even if it regressed from last season for it to be this poor is shockingly inexcusable on the part of the guys down there. That this pen is pitching so poorly and the Yankees brass seems to be content to let it continue should tell us all we need to know. I don’t trust any of those guys in that pen to be able to give a 1,2,3 inning. Shameful.

  70. 86w183 May 3rd, 2009 at 11:14 am

    CB — Wow! Triple Mimosas this morning?

    Joba HAS pitched in the bullpen effectively and AJ never has… that might be a bit of a factor you conveniently avoided.

    Joba has NEVER thrown 120 innings in a year. AJ has done it seven times in the last eight years.

    Try again after some black coffee

  71. SJ44 May 3rd, 2009 at 11:15 am

    CB,

    The only problem with that, and the only reason why Joba going to the pen would be under discussion, is that when he was in the bullpen, he was one of the 5 best relief pitchers in the game.

    They don’t go to the playoffs in 2007 without his contributions.

    Its because of that success, and the enormous failure of the current bullpen, that its even a discussion point.

    Again, the mission statement of the team is to win the WS every year.

    If the mission statement is amended to, “We will look to win the WS in a couple of years after we develop our younger arms”, then its a different discussion.

    Therein lies the rub. Its also a big reason why this organization doesn’t develop young talent. The patience isn’t there to let it develop.

  72. William Buckner May 3rd, 2009 at 11:16 am

    “I don’t think they can bring up Jackson for 10 days because they just sent him down.”

    They could bring him back, because they DL Marte. Can only avoid 10 day rule in the event of an injury.

  73. jennifer May 3rd, 2009 at 11:18 am

    SJ44 May 3rd, 2009 at 11:09 am

    I don’t think they can bring up Jackson for 10 days because they just sent him down.——————-

    No way this is the ‘real’ sj he knows the rules. He knows that you can bring Jackson back up because you dl’ed someone. Impersonations are out of CONTROL.

  74. Cal May 3rd, 2009 at 11:18 am

    If Hughes is able to pitch effectively and by the time Wang is ready to come back and this pen is still pure and utter shite, then Joba in the pen will have to be considered, especially if Melancon is not able to step up, right now outside of Rivera the only other reliable guy Bruney is on the DL. Lets say he comes back fine, that is

    Rivera
    Bruney
    Melancon – hopefully he will feature more and step up and take a bigger role
    Coke
    Albaladejo
    Ramirez
    Vera$$ – who Cashman is in utter love with it seems, since he is still here.

  75. Tank May 3rd, 2009 at 11:18 am

    These new free agents are all performing well below average expectations. At this point, they are not even mediocre. THey are awful. THey are performing at an unacceptable level. Honestly, I’d sit Teixeira for a day. Or, want to send a message? Send one of these guys down to the minors to light a fire under their ass.

    What does nearly a half a billion dollars get? Teixeira – .182, 3 HRs, 10 RBI. Unacceptable. Sabathia 1 win, 4.85 era, Burnett, – 2 wins, 5.40 era. This is precisely the reason the Yankees have not won a World Series since 2000. The 2001 team gets a pass. Since 02, High priced, under performing free agents. They come to the Yankees, get rich and don’t care about winning.

    The new trio is performing at unacceptable levels. You can only use this “slow starter” excuse for so long. I understand its only the first weekend of May, but you got to start producing at some time. Bench them, demote them for a week or something to send a message. I’m sure there are guys down in the minors who are itching for a chance to get to the majors. At least they’ll act like they want to be there.

  76. jennifer May 3rd, 2009 at 11:18 am

    William Buckner

    It is an impostor. He knows the rules.

  77. SJ44 May 3rd, 2009 at 11:21 am

    Jennifer,

    Its me. I didn’t realize they DL’ed Marte. I thought Claggett was up to replace Edwar, Albie or Veras.

  78. rconn23 May 3rd, 2009 at 11:22 am

    CB,

    You make a great argument. You really do. That being said, you and I both know that’s not going to happen.

    Burnett is a two pitch guy. When he can locate his fastball and curve he’s unhittable. When he can’t, it’s Fenway wall-ball time.

    The problem is they are paying Burnett too much money to be a reliever. And how would Burnett take such a move, were it to happen. Not well, I imagine.

    I’d like to see Joba prove he can handle the workload as a starter first. Maybe moving Burnett to the pen is something the Yankees would consider in a couple of years after a DL trip or two.

    I’m not a big A.J. Burnett guy. I think people have fallen in love with Burnett’s “stuff” instead of looking at actual results. Then again, I’m kind of a stathead.

    When you look at the results, Derek Lowe is a better pitcher than Burnett. He’s a workhorse and dependable, and it’s why I thought he would have been a better fit for the Yankees. But alas, that ship has sailed.

  79. SJ44 May 3rd, 2009 at 11:23 am

    You can’t sit Tex for a day because Swisher is hurt.

    Funny thing about baseball, you have to have a first baseman on the field.

    They can’t send them to the minors to “send a message” because of the rules of the game in place. Veterans with certain service time can refuse a minor league assignment.

    Maybe they can have them run the stadium steps so you will be happy they get “punished”.

    That will “motivate” them.

  80. Cal May 3rd, 2009 at 11:23 am

    “Since 02, High priced, under performing free agents. They come to the Yankees, get rich and don’t care about winning.”

    Sad but very true, how can you explain Mark Teixeira hitting two balls to deep CF, but when a man was on third he spit the bit and gagged. Fits right in with the modus operandi around here in recent seasons. He hasn’t just had a slow start he is contributing nothing to this team in the heart of the order. He should have been helping this team with Arod out instead he has to be excused because its April.

    As for Sabatthia, the lame slow starter lines are really getting tiring to hear about, for both of these guys. I’m convinced free agency is not the way to go to build a successful, long term team that has heart, guts, desire, intensity and feels comfortable within themselves.

  81. vin May 3rd, 2009 at 11:25 am

    “Given all of this – the logic of moving Burnett to the pen is much better than moving Joba to the pen.”

    You just blew my mind. lol

  82. BBFan May 3rd, 2009 at 11:25 am

    SJ,

    I udnerstand your logic.
    Still the question is, if Joba has to be moved to bullpen to correct it, isn’t our farm pitching being overhyped. Why any ohter team will take them to give us better arms?

    I am still not as down as many others here on bullpen.
    We were doing just fine before Bruney was hurt.
    Now Melancon is getting a taste of ML and will getter better.
    Once Bruney returns and Starters start doing better with warm weather, we will be fine.

    Also, there is too much panic here. We are only two games behind Boston even after thier great run recently and our starters so so perfromance. In a couple of weeks our team will be at full strength and we will get on a roll.

  83. Trevor May 3rd, 2009 at 11:25 am

    “I thought Claggett was up to replace Edwar, Albie or Veras”

    In our dreams.

  84. CB May 3rd, 2009 at 11:28 am

    “the only reason why Joba going to the pen would be under discussion, is that when he was in the bullpen, he was one of the 5 best relief pitchers in the game.”

    SJ,

    You know that is irrelevant. Come on.

    David Price was dominant out of the pen for the Rays last year. He was the ONLY reason they made it to the series. This year the Tampa pen is a huge problem. Should they move Price to the pen. They are under enormous time pressure to win now before their cost controlled players start to leave 3-4 years from now.

    Are you going to tell me that if the Giants moved Tim Lincecum to the pen that he wouldn’t be one of the 5 best relievers in the game?

    The fact that he hasn’t been used in that role doesn’t mean that there isn’t a very, very high probability that he would thrive in that role.

    So I’ll argue the same thing is true with AJ.

    It is a working given in the game that it is MUCH easier and takes less talent to be successful out of the pen than it does in the rotation.

    You yourself must have posted on that subject dozens of times.

    Also, Joba’s biggest problem this year has not been this velocity. Not even close. His biggest problem has been his control. That problem will only be amplified in the pen, as you well know.

    The last thing the yankees need is another reliever who doesn’t throw strikes.

    Right now Joba isn’t throwing enough strikes and that is the biggest reason why he hasn’t made better starts.

    Moving Joba to the pen is the same kind of short term thinking that has destroyed pummeled this franchise for years.

    Why not simply make a trade for another reliever? The idea that things are so dire that they have to ruin the future of the most promising pitching prospect they arguably have had in the past 40 years because they can’t wait for the trade market to develop strains credulity.

    So if the argument is going to be that some starting pitcher has to be made a sacrificial lamb to make up for the pen being awful it makes more sense to move AJ to that role.

    And moving AJ to the role makes no sense.

  85. V May 3rd, 2009 at 11:29 am

    1) Joba. Is. Not. Going. Back. To. The. Bullpen. unless he pulls a Kerry Wood over the next three seasons. Heaven forbid.

    2) The bullpen is better than its numbers. Those saying to ‘DFA Veras’ are the same ones who were saying ‘trade Cano’ last year at this time.

    3) Bruney’s coming back soon.

  86. Bronx Jeers May 3rd, 2009 at 11:29 am

    “Let’s not dance around the 2,000 lb elephant in the room, folks.”

    Come on, Joba’s like 240 lbs. max.

    Obviously several things have to happen with Hughes being effective and Wang returning to form. Then the entire staff has to remain healthy.

    But if in a month those 3 things happen and they decide to enact Doomsday Plan R:

    Is it a permanent move with Joba becoming the heir apparent?

    Or do they start over again next year with Joba in the rotation thus retarding his growth once again.

    How long till Joba says enough. I know he’ll say that he’ll do whatever is right for the team to win a championship but inside I think he’ll resent the organization for mucking this up. A move into the bullpen certainly hurts his long term earning potential.

  87. yankee21 May 3rd, 2009 at 11:29 am

    Interesting decision making process by Cashman and Girardi,
    rather than putting Marte on the DL 8-9 days ago when Marte said he hurt his shoulder in BOS, they left him activated and wound up operating 1 short reliever in the pen.

    Kind of explains why they opted to go with Alba/Veras/Ramirez all week..LOL>

    They could have used that slot to bring up a position player.

  88. ANSKY May 3rd, 2009 at 11:30 am

    I wouldn’t put Chamberlain in the bullpen unless he physically can’t be a starter either.

    The thing is … if they continue to use Joba to rescue the bullpen, eventually (IMO sooner than later) he will no longer be physically able to be a starter. If the bullpen needs THAT much rescuing, his arm will be Proctorized in a season or two. What a waste that would be.

  89. bodhisattva May 3rd, 2009 at 11:30 am

    CB,

    That’s occurred to me as well, because of the FB/CB only repertoire, but I wasn’t particularly serious. I would hate to use any legit starter in the pen.

    If Joba and AJ were my ONLY options, however, I’d choose AJ in relief by default.

    But “by default” reasoning here is still a form of desperation.

  90. Stop. May 3rd, 2009 at 11:31 am

    Players not trying? I’ll go with trying too hard, but saying they’re not trying is just so stupid. They are competitors, first and foremost. Stop embarrassing yourselves.

  91. SJ44 May 3rd, 2009 at 11:31 am

    Every team in baseball overhypes their farm system.

    Its the politics of the game.

    Every organization wants the Baseball America sign of approval for their prospects.

    That’s just how it goes.

    Its tough for fans, especially newer generation Yankee fans, to distinguish fact from fiction when it comes to prospects.

    For example: Mark Melancon. Hype of real? Real. However, he isn’t going to ride in on his white horse to save the bullpen. He will be very, very good in time if they don’t forcefeed him.

    Phil Hughes, hype or real? Real. However, a classic example of how NOT to develop a young arm. Fortunately for Hughes, his failures didn’t deter him (a la Homer Bailey) and I think he has a chance to be a very good pitcher.

    Its why I caution folks who get ga ga over A ball prospects. A lot can happen between A ball and the majors.

    Two years ago, Jose Tabata was the “crown jewel” among Yankee position prospects and Austin Jackson was a “toolsy” kid struggling in A ball.

    Today, Tabata is hitting .240 in AA and has a .620 OPS.

    Jackson is hitting .370 in AAA and is the Yankees best overall prospect.

    Lots of stuff happens to these kids on their way to the bigs.

    Its why its best not to buy into all the hype.

  92. jennifer May 3rd, 2009 at 11:31 am

    sj- Oh okay. You just never know on here on a daily basis, with the amount of impersonations going on.

  93. Betsy May 3rd, 2009 at 11:31 am

    Fabulous- Marte on the DL.

    CB, weren’t we discussing just a few starts ago that AJ appeared to turn the corner? The name Schilling did come up several times…Granted it was a terrible start, but does one bad start against Boston mean that everything we said about him prior to that was untrue? Shouldn’t we give him a chance to show us that his transformation is complete? He obviously hasn’t gotten on a roll yet, but for the most part, he has battled – isn’t that one of the things that people questioned about him? That he couldn’t win/hang in there without his best stuff? Now that he’s chosen not to throw at max effort, we’ll see if he can stay healthy. His past is not necessarily a prologue to the future – we just have to wait and see. Sure it was a risk – and Cash admitted to that – but it doesn’t mean that it can’t or won’t pay off.

    That said, you make interesting points -but then I’ve never thought that Joba should be in the pen. The Yankees can’t just make plans and then rip them to shreds when things don’t go according to that plan. They need to have some conviction – Joba is a starter, no matter what. It’s why I thought Phil shouldn’t be brought up – he wasn’t ready, that’s why he was in AAA. As it turns out, maybe I was wrong, but it always seems as if the Yankees are flying by the seat of their pants with this kid (2007 – rushed, 2009 – rushed).

  94. William Buckner May 3rd, 2009 at 11:32 am

    The best thing for the pen will be if Bruney can come back healthy. I’m still confident that Melancon will take control of an important role.

    That leaves the need for a swing guy. Someone who can get outs when a guy labors.

    The problem isn’t really in the 8th. It’s been in close games around the 5th – 7th. My hope is someone takes the bull be the horn internally. Otherwise, we’ll have to wildly overpay in a trade sometime in June.

    They should take the Masterson approach with someone at AA. It really a good way to develop young arms at the MLB level.

  95. V May 3rd, 2009 at 11:32 am

    “Since 02, High priced, under performing free agents. They come to the Yankees, get rich and don’t care about winning.”

    Oh, wow, you solved the problem! The reason CC an AJ haven’t thrown 5 perfect games a piece and the reason Teixeira hasn’t hit 20 home runs is because they don’t care!!!

    WOW! You’re absolutely brilliant!!!!

    http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/youare

  96. Aunt Becca-Optimist Prime May 3rd, 2009 at 11:33 am

    Pete: Mets and Phillies are rained out…

  97. jennifer May 3rd, 2009 at 11:34 am

    So Pete are you saying the game is going to be called?

  98. V May 3rd, 2009 at 11:36 am

    “Phil Hughes, hype or real? Real. However, a classic example of how NOT to develop a young arm. Fortunately for Hughes, his failures didn’t deter him (a la Homer Bailey) and I think he has a chance to be a very good pitcher.”

    Also, Phil Hughes, when injured, was perfectly honest with the Yankees. They then did everything they could to get him healthy rather than let him pitch hurt.

    Homer Bailey hid a knee injury from the Reds for well over a year. FINALLY, he came clean, they got him fixed, an he might finally tap into his potential (see: his 15K performance last week).

  99. nud May 3rd, 2009 at 11:36 am

    Burnett to the bullpen????? Are you kiddin me…..get a clue

  100. SJ44 May 3rd, 2009 at 11:36 am

    CB,

    Its funny you mention the Rays. They are actually wrestling with that question right now re: Price.

    There are some guys on the organization who think he should go to the pen and Wade Davis to the rotation when they need a starter.

    Like I’ve said, I don’t disagree with what you are saying.

    I’m saying that, the Yankees aren’t going to flush their season down the drain with a bullpen this bad IF they can find a way to put Chamberlain in it.

    If they make the playoffs, he’s going into the bullpen as it is.

    The issue is, can they make the playoffs if Chamberlain is not in the bullpen? That’s the big question right now.

    I’m not saying its right. In fact, I think that decision would be shortsighted.

    But, this is the same organization that had meetings a week ago and the subject of bringing up Austin Jackson right now (a HORRIBLE idea, IMO) actually was discussed.

    Its not like we are operating with a group that stays steady when rough waters hit.

  101. CB May 3rd, 2009 at 11:39 am

    “The problem isn’t really in the 8th. It’s been in close games around the 5th – 7th.”

    Right on the mark. Again, part of why moving Joba to the pen doesn’t fit the need.

    This year it hasn’t been the set up role that’s been the disaster.

    It’s been middle relief.

    One player cannot fix middle relief. It’s going to take several to come through.

    Bruney is purely a one inning guy. So if you really wanted to move Joba to the pen his best use would be as a middle reliever throwing multiple innings.

    The idea of having that arm and that arsenal of pitches throwing middle relief would be one of the worst misuses of talent in recent baseball history.

    If the pen continues to be such a disaster and Wang comes back Ok there would be no reason why they couldn’t use Hughes as a swing man out of the pen like billingsley did for the dodgers two years ago. Joba’s on an innings limit anyway so between hughes throwing multiple innings and making spot starts and his minor league starts/starts made for Wang he’ll get 150 innings.

    So if the pen really is desperate for help put hughes in the pen.

    But you cannot keep toying with Joba’s role at this point. You just can’t.

    And you can’t relegate him to the pen for the rest of his career unless he absolutely proves that he cannot pitch 200 innings in a season.

    But you cannot know that unless you give him the chance in the first place.

  102. V May 3rd, 2009 at 11:39 am

    “Its not like we are operating with a group that stays steady when rough waters hit.”

    And they wonder why we haven’t won a WS since 2000. They should all look into the collective mirror.

  103. Betsy May 3rd, 2009 at 11:39 am

    I knew Tex still had a wrist problem………..this could linger all season and be a real problem.

  104. RER - 98 May 3rd, 2009 at 11:40 am

    How Wang and Bruney come back, if Hughes continues to pitch well, A-Rod’s presence in the lineup, and Teixeira hitting his stride are the deciders for what becomes of Joba’s role.
    With the new Stadium and the seat pricing fiasco in a bad economy, Cashman will scrap the thought of Joba as a starter if it looks likes the standings show that the key to it all is a fortified bullpen to ensure a successful year. This is New York. Being out of the playoffs another year is not up for debate after the spending spree to get C.C., A.J., and Teixeira and building up the hopes of the fanbase.

  105. JoeT 28 in 10 KEEP PHIL FRANCHISE AND CANO!! May 3rd, 2009 at 11:41 am

    I vote for putting Aceves in the pen

  106. Bronx Jeers May 3rd, 2009 at 11:41 am

    “Interesting decision making process by Cashman and Girardi,
    rather than putting Marte on the DL 8-9 days ago when Marte said he hurt his shoulder in BOS, they left him activated and wound up operating 1 short reliever in the pen.”

    I’ll assume that they didn’t know he was injured but you’re so right. He hasn’t been used since last Sat. Sometimes I wonder if these guys aren’t in a little over their head. Cashman’s been shaky.

    I’ll take a rain-out today. Lots of guys are banged up.

  107. BBFan May 3rd, 2009 at 11:42 am

    “But, this is the same organization that had meetings a week ago and the subject of bringing up Austin Jackson right now (a HORRIBLE idea, IMO) actually was discussed.

    Its not like we are operating with a group that stays steady when rough waters hit.”

    There is nothing wrong discussing all possible options.
    Final decisions are what matter.
    They decided against bringing up Austin, which is a good decision. I do not think it is not staying steady when rough waters hit.

  108. CB May 3rd, 2009 at 11:42 am

    SJ,

    If the organization is so short sighted and stupid as to move Joba to the pen out of reflexive panic (which I don’t think they are…) well then the franchise deserves what it gets.

    And what they’ll get is years more of looking at second place finishes to boston with some third place finishes sprinkled in behind tampa.

    And I can’t seen why the Rays would move Price to the pen before they would Wade Davis. Davis to the pen is what I’m expecting. But we’ll see.

    But again – Price to the pen would be a panic move. And good decisions are not rooted in panic.

  109. JoeT 28 in 10 May 3rd, 2009 at 11:42 am

    I guess I can get rid of my pre-season “keep phil franchise and cano” tag line now lol

  110. SJ44 May 3rd, 2009 at 11:43 am

    Tex’s wrist is fine now. He’s been doing his extra work the last 3-4 days.

    If he his wrist wasn’t 100%, he wouldn’t be doing the extra work.

    CB,

    I think the thought process is, by having Joba in the 8th, you move everybody else back a notch, thereby making the middle and 7th inning relief corp stronger, while not hurting the back end of the ‘pen.

  111. hew May 3rd, 2009 at 11:45 am

    i hate when the yankees do this…they hide behind the line “we have to get the game in because they don’t come back to the bronx” but really they want the parking and rain delay concession money. It’s such a pain in the ass because now I have to start trekking into the bronx for what? a rain delay and a rain out? thanks Yanks.

  112. DT May 3rd, 2009 at 11:45 am

    UPDATE, 11:28 a.m.: Girardi is 30 minutes to his pre-game press conference and no lineup is posted. *Something is up.*

    What could be up?
    Does something is up mean something is going down?

  113. JoeT 28 in 10 Aceves to the pen!! May 3rd, 2009 at 11:47 am

    DT…. preferably someONE lol… Aceves for the pen movement!!

  114. K-ace May 3rd, 2009 at 11:48 am

    If they have discussed bringing Austin Jackson Up, I’m sure they have discussed trade scenarios involving an outfielder, for other assistance, preferably Bullpen or infield?

  115. Trevor May 3rd, 2009 at 11:49 am

    Maybe they’re rescheduling the game. Both teams have common off days in this month.

  116. EvoLuTioN May 3rd, 2009 at 11:51 am

    no pena? wwhy!

  117. Francis May 3rd, 2009 at 11:51 am

    “NO LEAD SAFE: The Yankees have had at least a one-run lead in seven of their 11 losses.”

    Most demoralizing way to lose a game is in the late innings. This pen is going to eventually just puncture the air out of our balloon. The offense can’t keep rallying from deficits every single night.

  118. Harper M May 3rd, 2009 at 11:54 am

    I would move AJ to the pen too

    His long term value to us is not as much as Joba is.

    His FB/CB combo could be just as special.

    Problem? I doubt AJ would ever agree to it.

  119. SBS0311 May 3rd, 2009 at 11:54 am

    I doubt anything was “up” with a late posting of the lineup, probably just a last minute decision on Swisher.

    God help us with Berroa at 3B.

  120. Aunt Becca-Optimist Prime May 3rd, 2009 at 11:55 am

    No Swisher again and no Peña?

    Any sort of explanation other than that the game’s probably gonna get rained out anyway?

  121. jennifer May 3rd, 2009 at 11:55 am

    Yeah no Pena. that is just nuts. And Swish still out. Must be really hurt. This stinks!

  122. stuart May 3rd, 2009 at 11:55 am

    WOW the worry warts are out in full bloom today.

    CC and AJ will get better… wang will figure it out or he will stay in the minors..

    bruney, melancon, Mo, and they will find 2 more arms that can throw a strike…

    this team is getting there best player back in a week, they will be fine…

  123. V Torch May 3rd, 2009 at 11:55 am

    Mets @ Phillies was rescheduled and the forcast for Philadelphia looks pretty much the same as it does here.

    But that was an easy call considering they play 19 times a year. They’ll probably wait this one out.

  124. Trevor May 3rd, 2009 at 11:55 am

    Berroa at 3rd?

  125. Nick May 3rd, 2009 at 11:56 am

    We need Berroa’s offense without Swisher

    We can always replace him in the late innings.

  126. Roger(the new amsterdam yankees ) May 3rd, 2009 at 11:56 am

    swisher still out??will he be able to start against boston?

    Can’t believe pena isn’t playing.He can sit when arod is back so let him play now.Borroa is horrible

  127. CB May 3rd, 2009 at 11:56 am

    “Most demoralizing way to lose a game is in the late innings. This pen is going to eventually just puncture the air out of our balloon. The offense can’t keep rallying from deficits every single night.”

    Why is the yankees losing the lead in 7 of their 11 losses only an issue of the pen.

    How many of those leads have the starters blown?

    AJ’s blown leads. Andy has. CC has.

    I can’t think of a more demoralizing loss than AJ blowing a 6-0 lead to boston.

  128. stuart May 3rd, 2009 at 11:56 am

    yea Pena is such a huge loss for 1 day after all he hit 250 in AA last year with absolutely no power…

    Tex probably will not hit 180 all year but right now he sucks………..

  129. Betsy May 3rd, 2009 at 11:59 am

    I don’t see any positives in putting Phil in the pen. The Yankees have done a bad job with his development though it goes somewhat unnoticed with all the talk about Joba. In 2007, despite Cash having said previously that we wouldn’t see Phil until September, he called him up because of a crisis with the ML pitching staff. This is example one of Phil’s development being set back. I did think he deserved a crack in the rotation last year based on his performance in 2007, so no problems there. However, due to injury and whatnot, Phil struggled. He really needed further time in AAA this year, but again because of problems with the SP at the ML level, he’s called up before his time. The kid is a starter – I just don’t see how putting him in the pen helps him.

  130. Tank May 3rd, 2009 at 11:59 am

    All I’m trying to say is this: Enough with excuses that they are slow starters. We’re a month into the season and these guys have to step up and produce. I’m not s aying tex has to hit 3 HRs every game, but he has to at least play at a decent level. Even the Big G is batting over the Mendoza line. Move the guy to bat 6 or 7th until he can find his groove. Cano is in a great zone right now. Swish, Matsui and Posada are heating up. Right now, on 5/3 Teixeira has become a liability batting in the 3 hole.

    CC and Burnett are going to be better. I’m not looking for perfect games. I’m looking for Wins. 3 just ain’t cutting it.

    And whoever doesn’t believe the Yankees signing high priced free agents this entire decade hasn’t been a detriment, just look at how many world series they’ve been to since they started opening up the checkbook. Money does not buy chemistry. Money does not buy world series championships. I wish it did though.

  131. jennifer May 3rd, 2009 at 12:00 pm

    stuart, it isn’t Pena’s offense that people are concerned about missing. It is his defense!

  132. Roger(the new amsterdam yankees ) May 3rd, 2009 at 12:00 pm

    stuart

    it’s about his defence…

    but is it true that the yankees have discussed bringing austin jackson?

  133. Fran May 3rd, 2009 at 12:00 pm

    On the radio they said that the rain is supposed to get heavier in about 2 hours. Also the weather for the Boston game tomorrow night doesn’t sound too good either.

  134. Betsy May 3rd, 2009 at 12:01 pm

    Berroa and not Pena at 3b? Oh brother………..what’s the rationale for that?

  135. Edwards May 3rd, 2009 at 12:01 pm

    Very hard to reschedule a game like this with the team coming from the West Coast

    They’re not going to fly out here for one game then fly back home. You have to find a off-day when they are in the East Coast/Mid-west.

    August 3rd is a possibility. We are in Chicago and LA is in Minnesota on Sunday. Both teams have Monday off before LA goes to Chicago on Tuesday and we go to Toronto. You could squeeze it in then.

    September 14th is the other possibility. LA has that Monday off before starting a series in Boston on Tuesday.

    But chances are, they’ll try to squeeze 5 innings in this game and call it, or delay it for a while.

  136. S.A.--It's a marathon, not a sprint. Calm down. May 3rd, 2009 at 12:02 pm

    Berroa 3B :evil:

  137. SJ44 May 3rd, 2009 at 12:03 pm

    The rationale is…..

    Pena’s weaker side at the plate is the right side.

    They need another bat in the lineup with Swisher out.

    If they have the lead later in the game, they can insert Pena for defense.

  138. O*Line May 3rd, 2009 at 12:04 pm

    By that same logic, how does putting Joba in the pen help him in his development? Or AJ in the pen?

    Somebody is going to have to be the sacrificial lamb. We’re not winning with this bullpen and I doubt there is some shut down arm that is available in a trade. We thought Marte was that guy last year. And the trade market isin’t going to open until July anyway.

  139. Betsy May 3rd, 2009 at 12:04 pm

    Harper, moving AJ to the pen is daft. I understand why people didn’t want to sign him and why he’s got skeptics, but where were these people after his first few starts? Can we please give him more than a handful of starts (most of which have been good) before we determine that he’s going to be failure in pinstripes?

  140. john May 3rd, 2009 at 12:05 pm

    “The rationale is…..

    Pena’s weaker side at the plate is the right side.

    They need another bat in the lineup with Swisher out.

    If they have the lead later in the game, they can insert Pena for defense.”

    Bingo. It’s amazing how much people complain. Pena isin’t in the lineup… oh noez!!!!

  141. Betsy May 3rd, 2009 at 12:06 pm

    Thanks, SJ.

    I don’t think I want to listen to that audio Pete posted – the media’s going to get all over Joe for that. Assuming he’s frustrated about the changing release date, I don’t blame him……

  142. Reymond May 3rd, 2009 at 12:06 pm

    “I can’t think of a more demoralizing loss than AJ blowing a 6-0 lead to boston.”

    QFT. That game hurt, badly. That was embarrassing.

  143. Kevin at SHU May 3rd, 2009 at 12:08 pm

    I am pretty the decision to postpone this game before it begins comes from Major League Baseball as this is the last time the Angels are in town. I think if the Yankees had control of today’s game it may have been postponed already.

  144. NITRO May 3rd, 2009 at 12:08 pm

    Yikes. Not a good move by Joe to lash out against Robers like that. Now Selena Roberts is going to write a book about him!!!

  145. Clint May 3rd, 2009 at 12:09 pm

    I would hate for this game to stop and start with Hughes on the mound and no long man.

    On the other hand, maybe they will call it after 5 innings and that means no bullpen in this game. Hooray! (of course, with our luck, we’ll probably be trailing).

  146. SJ44 May 3rd, 2009 at 12:10 pm

    Good for Girardi.

    We all know Arod can be a dolt. But really, this book is a joke.

    I get the fact the media will protect one their own. Its the mama bear syndrome.

    However, its a book that is written without any name sources who are still in Arod’s life. The most explosive stuff in the book is all unsourced material.

    The rationale of, “she was right about the failed drug test, she is right about everything else”, doesn’t wash.

    If this book was so great, just release it. Why try and time it to his expected return? You do that for shock value and nothing more.

    Good for Girardi for getting ticked off about it.

    If Selena Roberts, and people of her elk, spent the bulk of their time uncovering the misdeeds on Wall St, BS war claims, and everything else in this country, with the same vigor as they cover a diva baseball player, we would all be better off.

    I get the fact that newspapers see Arod stories as something that can prop up their ailing industry.

    However, from a fan perspective, everyone is just sick and tired of this stuff, regardless of WHO is reporting it.

  147. Roger(the new amsterdam yankees ) May 3rd, 2009 at 12:11 pm

    AJ had one terrible inn agianst boston.But had was very dominant the first innings.I think he will turn it around just like cc.
    My only concern is the bullpen.Bruney will be back but who will pitch the 7th inn?Please o please don’t say veras or edwar

    Why not trade kennedy for a good bullpen guy?

  148. jennifer May 3rd, 2009 at 12:11 pm

    Joe is ticked. Good for him. Glad he opened his mouth.

  149. GreenBeret7 May 3rd, 2009 at 12:12 pm

    If NYY does indeed bring in an outfielder (not on 40 man DL), I’d make it Todd Linden or Rodriguez. Linden is a much better defensive outfielder and plays all positions well.

    At this time, I’d like to see Girardi stretch his bullpen by having the starters use some of their throw days in the games.

    Trader asked earlier about Pat Venditte. No way that he’s ready right now. As a left hander, his fastball tops out at 84=85 MPH. He does have a great changeup and good slider from the left, though. From the right side, he’s been hitting 90-91 MPH with his fastball. Also the same good changeup, a curve and decent to good slider.

  150. DT May 3rd, 2009 at 12:12 pm

    Berroa gives you more offense than Pena. That can be debated but –

    How about defense? Especially with a team that can bunt, and likes to slap the ball on the ground.

    Berroa is 1-5 lifetime against Saunders.

  151. m May 3rd, 2009 at 12:13 pm

    Wait, SJ says this is an Alex-free thread, and then starts up the Joba debate? ;)

    How’s the weather?

  152. V May 3rd, 2009 at 12:13 pm

    I totally agreed with EVERYTHING Joe said about the book.

  153. 7*7 May 3rd, 2009 at 12:14 pm

    John Rodriquez should have been here weeks ago

    He is currently our best outfielder.

  154. cano he didnt May 3rd, 2009 at 12:14 pm

    I was thinking the same thing SJ. If she is so good and able to dig up a few people arod was in highschool with years ago, put her on cases involving corporate crime or something. Anyways good interview by Joe, got his point out there without sounding too pissed off.

  155. SJ44 May 3rd, 2009 at 12:14 pm

    M,

    Pete brought it up in the thread, blame him! lol

  156. V May 3rd, 2009 at 12:15 pm

    And really, really, don’t want to see Berroa’s 3B defense instead of Pena…. ugh. Look forward to a LOT of bunts toward 3rd, from Figgins, etc.

    Phil needs to trust his defense and throw strikes, and you’re going to put Mr. Automatic Errors at 3rd?

  157. jennifer May 3rd, 2009 at 12:15 pm

    You have to think that it is wearing Joe. He is having to answer for things that happened while Alex played on another team.

  158. vb03 May 3rd, 2009 at 12:16 pm

    Not a fan of Berroa at 3rd today with a wet infield.

    And Joe was right on with everything he said about the book.

  159. Brandon "Vote Robi Cano for MVP" "I LOVE ME SOME ME !" May 3rd, 2009 at 12:16 pm

    What in the blue hell is the snr. citizen doing at 3B today, a rainy day at that, you need slick fielding for this type of day, Ramiro is a patient switch hitter don’t tell me b/c Berroa can hit lefties. You need every advantage especially w/ Hughes pitching.

  160. Betsy May 3rd, 2009 at 12:16 pm

    Personally speaking, I’m glad Joe vented as well – I’m just thinking of the media’s reaction. That said, it’s about time people stopped walking on eggshells around this person. I’m sure Joe is just saying what many people have wanted to say, but were afraid to.

    I want to know why Aceves is not on this team.

  161. Sore Hammy May 3rd, 2009 at 12:17 pm

    Girardi is hormonal. I agree with his views on this book, but the part about his parents and his own life was kind of strange.

  162. Dogu May 3rd, 2009 at 12:17 pm

    Girardi saying more stupid crap to the media. Shocker.

  163. EvoLuTioN May 3rd, 2009 at 12:18 pm

    maybe Pete will understand why 99% of the people question Selena Roberts now…

  164. LakeMichigan May 3rd, 2009 at 12:18 pm

    Like it or not, when you become a public figure (i.e. the highest-paid baseball player), you lose a lot of your privacy. That’s just the way it goes in this world.

    Yes A-Rod has been an inherited distraction in the sense that what he had done came before his time as a Yankee, but unfortunately for this team you get what you pay for.

  165. BX 44 May 3rd, 2009 at 12:19 pm

    Need to get the Sr. Citizen some ABs to keep him fresh

  166. YankeesLuv May 3rd, 2009 at 12:19 pm

    Very well said Mr. Girardi. :)

  167. tampayank May 3rd, 2009 at 12:19 pm

    I’m glad Girardi stood up for AROD, Roberts crossed the line even though the ‘journalist fraternity’ will continue to defend her………I don’t know how she can live with herself by doing this to someone, karma will come back in a big way, it always does

  168. vb03 May 3rd, 2009 at 12:20 pm

    Still dark and gloomy here in the city, I doubt this game will get through in the next few hours.

  169. jennifer May 3rd, 2009 at 12:20 pm

    dogu- I don’t know why I am bothering replying to your stupid comment. But you have to be kidding me. What he said is 1000% true. He said what many here have said.

    Why move the release date 10 times? Because and only becuase she wanted it to come out when Alex was playing. Shock value plain and simple. If it was so good, hard hitting etc, she would have released it when it was supposed to come out.

  170. ZMAN7777 May 3rd, 2009 at 12:21 pm

    A rainout today might not be the worst thing in the world when you consider the Yankees lineup and the opposing pitcher.

  171. EvoLuTioN May 3rd, 2009 at 12:21 pm

    Figgins 3B
    Izturis SS
    Abreu LF
    Hunter CF
    Morales 1B
    Napoli C
    Kendrick 2B
    Rivera DH
    GMJ RF

  172. Cal May 3rd, 2009 at 12:21 pm

    “maybe Pete will understand why 99% of the people question Selena Roberts now…”

    Fat chance of that, Pete would have only been impartial on this subject if it was the “Big G” as opposed to Arod. We all know Pete has no ability to talk about Arod without inserting his personal feelings of the guy no matter the story.

  173. Chris May 3rd, 2009 at 12:22 pm

    Pete –

    Joe G is both right and wrong. He’s right in that I don’t understand why anyone would write a book that contains alleged details about Rodriguez’s sex life and sex club rants. These details have already appeared in Page Six of the NY Post. I also do not understand why Torre would include his personal gripes with the organization in a book when he showed such class while he was here as a manager.

    Where I think Joe G is wrong is that he should just issue a no comment regarding these issues and just leave it at that. Why give this story more legs than it needs? Oh well.

  174. tampayank May 3rd, 2009 at 12:22 pm

    and for the record I would say the same thing if a similar book came out about Youk, Ortiz, or any other player on a team I hate, It’s not about blind loyalty…hopefully Hughes can have another solid outing, not expecting it to be as good as detroit but I would like to be pleasently surprised

  175. chris May 3rd, 2009 at 12:22 pm

    That was hardly a tirade from Girardi. He questioned the release date and said he didn’t understand a motive to write the book.

    He didn’t scream or yell. He didn’t point out that she has no named sources but doesn’t seem to care about that fact.

    Seriously Pete, what’s your deal with this story? No surprise you have yet to answer the email I sent you, which poses some real good questions about the validity of Roberts book along with her questionable ‘journalism’ practices, something, which everyone in the media either doesn’t care about or is too scared to address.

  176. Eric May 3rd, 2009 at 12:22 pm

    Tomorrow’s forecast looks even worse. I would say there is no chance that game gets played.

    Going to throw the rotation out of whack if that’s the case. Do they put Hughes on 1 weeks rest or skip him? Joba? Do they pitch AJ on normal rest?

  177. Sore Hammy May 3rd, 2009 at 12:22 pm

    Roberts probably isn’t the one deciding when the book is released, it’s all about the marketing and pr plan.

  178. EvoLuTioN May 3rd, 2009 at 12:22 pm

    daddy makes mistakes

    :lol:

  179. vb03 May 3rd, 2009 at 12:24 pm

    Girardi is clearly tired of answering these book questions.

    If A-Rod didn’t have surgery, the book would have been released Opening Day.

    Since A-Rod had surgery, the book comes out when he comes back to the team.

    If that doesn’t scream personal agenda and greed instead of journalistic responsibility, I don’t know what does.

  180. Will May 3rd, 2009 at 12:24 pm

    Way to go Joe! No matter how many times you bring in Veras, sticking up for a player like that catapults you in my book. Roberts is human trash and should be treated as such.

  181. Brandon "Vote Robi Cano for MVP" "I LOVE ME SOME ME !" May 3rd, 2009 at 12:25 pm

    The one thing I took from that GI Joe interview, he questioned the release date it’s that simple, Joe has been talking to Alex alot, Alex for the first time since Lou Pinella has a manager that has his back and that goes very far into what Alex will do for this team.

  182. Sean Serritella May 3rd, 2009 at 12:26 pm

    I’m in a dilemma here and I need some help. I have Phil Hughes and Joe Saunders on my fantasy team. What should I do? Should I start both of them?

  183. Guido May 3rd, 2009 at 12:26 pm

    Pete, how can you say ‘It came out of left field and Girardi grew very emotional.”

    You guys never let up on the subject however hard Joe tried to stop from going there.

  184. Bob(The Original) May 3rd, 2009 at 12:26 pm

    A tirade Pete? Hardly.

    Sounded to me like a well reasoned sense of disgust with the whole thing. Much the same as alot of us here.

  185. patty May 3rd, 2009 at 12:26 pm

    wow. that was not even CLOSE to being a “tirade.”

    ha!

  186. Chris May 3rd, 2009 at 12:26 pm

    SJ44 wrote:

    If Selena Roberts, and people of her elk, spent the bulk of their time uncovering the misdeeds on Wall St, BS war claims, and everything else in this country, with the same vigor as they cover a diva baseball player, we would all be better off.

    GREAT POINT!! It’s not as if Roberts is breaking the Wall St. fiasco or the next Watergate. There are far more important things in the world going on. Unfortunately – she will probably make more money off of this book than say a 10th grade teacher will make in a lifetime who will inspire and educate some children to go on and do great things for the world. Crazy how this world operates sometimes.

  187. rconn23 May 3rd, 2009 at 12:26 pm

    I love the “Berroa brings you more offense” crowd. Priceless.

    Berroa stinks offensively. Plain and simple. So much so he managed to play himself out of the majors.

    He’s got a Rookie of the Year Award he didn’t deserve and it’s been downhill ever since.

    Putting him at third base for any game is a recipe for disaster. He’a a butcher defensively. He has no value. None.

    Perhaps this is a good day for a rainout.

  188. willis May 3rd, 2009 at 12:26 pm

    I think someone should write a book on Ms. Roberts…dig up some dirt

  189. BBFan May 3rd, 2009 at 12:27 pm

    I do not want to keep hearing this BS from Pete or the other self-righteous journalists about Selana’s integrity as a journalist.

    If she reported it as a story for her newspaper or SI like she outed A-Rod’s failed drug test, that is one thing. What this shameless woman did is write a book to benefit from it financially and she does not provide sources. There is a big difference between journalism and what she did. And the publisher and Salena have no shame about keep changing the release date of the book to time it such that they get best financial benefit.

  190. Sore Hammy May 3rd, 2009 at 12:28 pm

    We’ll see how well this book sells – if it sells well, then shame on the culture that supports this stuff, which we all participate in as well.

  191. trisha - click to see my bigger and better Opening Day pictures May 3rd, 2009 at 12:28 pm

    It seems to me that I heard Pete’s voice in there quite a bit once whatever came out of “left field” was invoked.

    I too agree with Girardi. Actually what I’m jonesing for now is for someone to write a book about Selena Roberts. What I would recommend is that they write a pretty salacious tell all and of course attribute all of it to “sources close to her”. Then when someone decides to investigate, I would recommend the author refuse to cooperate with the investigation, you know, because if the person did cooperate, nobody would ever trust her or him for giving up sources! Then I would think Pete would be there to congratulate the author on actually “helping” Selena by refusing to cooperate.

    Since I have a lot more honorable things to do with my life than read “tell-alls” filled with unnamed sources (actually I’ve never read a tell all, truth be known) unauthorized bios as they are commonly called, I’ll never have to be burdened by reading garbage about another human being that MAY OR MAY OT BE TRUE.

    Funny the things that cause people to bond with others. While I have spent days as a Yankee fan not having Alex’s back, Roberts has now galvanized the bond I will have with him as a Yankee fan.

    To paraphrase one of my favorite quotes: Great people talk about ideas. Average people talk about things. Small people talk about other people.

  192. Benny Blanco May 3rd, 2009 at 12:28 pm

    “I think this is all crap,” Young said. “It’s been one thing after another aimed at Alex. I’m tired of it. Unnamed people continually saying this and that. If you’ve got something to say, have the guts to use your name.

    “Tipping pitches among his friends? I never even heard of that. But I’ll go out on a limb and say if Alex was doing it he would have asked me to be a part of that, even after he left here. I’m one of his best friends.”

    http://www.star-telegram.com/s.....54374.html

    Considering how much arod is hated by both the public and the media, why in the world would Michael Young go out of his way and make a statement like this?

    Should we now question the character of Michael Young if he associates himself with Alex Rodriguez???

  193. Taylor May 3rd, 2009 at 12:28 pm

    Peter, your question is absurd. Nobody deserves to have a book written about them where they try to explore everything that you have ever done. This Selena Roberts is a terrible human being.

  194. S.A.--It's a marathon, not a sprint. Calm down. May 3rd, 2009 at 12:29 pm

    Just finished listening to the Girardi audio, good stuff Joe.

  195. willis May 3rd, 2009 at 12:30 pm

    I wonder if Pete would support
    Selana if she wrote a tell all full of dirt on Springsteen?

  196. Bill from NJ May 3rd, 2009 at 12:30 pm

    “It came out of left field and Girardi grew very emotional. You need to listen to this:”

    Possibly you should listen to it again Peter. You sound like a tabloid reporter in that media session.

  197. AG May 3rd, 2009 at 12:30 pm

    LOL at Girardi getting all pissy. Sorry your player is such a freak, Joe. “We’re going to move on!” Yeah, good luck with that.

  198. Tantron Willoughby May 3rd, 2009 at 12:30 pm

    The Girardi outburst is misdirection and pure frustration that he is stuck with a loser like Arod on the team. A team player like Girardi would never want this clown on his team if he had his way. All in my opinion.

  199. patty May 3rd, 2009 at 12:31 pm

    ti·rade (trd, t-rd)
    n.
    A long angry or violent speech, usually of a censorious or denunciatory nature; a diatribe.

    lol pete.

  200. Will May 3rd, 2009 at 12:31 pm

    Tirade? That was as calm and reasoned a response to the book. For Pete to label that a tirade really exposes his bias on this subject and questions the accuracy of his reporting.

    The bottom line is that a journalist with integrity doesn’t need to write a book like this one…in fact, a “journalist” wouldn’t write a book like this. It has no historical or social value whatsoever. It is simply designed to appeal to the lowest common demoninator and make money by doing so. Roberts has exposed what kind of wirter and person she really is…Pete is doing the same thing by continuing to defend her.

  201. miggs May 3rd, 2009 at 12:31 pm

    Come on Pete. You really consider what Girardi said to be a tirade?

    He wasn’t rude, he didn’t yell, he didn’t curse. Without those 3 elements its hard to classify what he said as a “tirade”. There’s no way you really think that. Its bordering on absurd. Really. And your tone when asking the questions, you can feel your absolute hatred towards Alex.

    And how did what he said come out of left field? He was asked the questions and answered them. As far as I can tell, there were 5 questions on the subject (2 of them asked by you) and the guy just told you the way he felt. That was hardly a “tirade” by Girardi against Selena Roberts and the book. That statement is simply ridiculous.

    Hey I’ve said it many times. This blog is 2nd to none. I’m here numerous times a day and that won’t change. The quantity and quality of the information and the reader interaction is the best there is.

    I guess the fact is that its your blog. You can say whatever you want. I guess my question is why do you hate Alex so much? It seems to me you REALLY strongly dislike the man. Why?

  202. Gold Mine May 3rd, 2009 at 12:32 pm

    That wasn’t as bad as when Joe lashed out at Joel Sherman or the media after they called him out on the Mariano injury last year… now those were tirades.

    This? A lecture.

  203. Betsy May 3rd, 2009 at 12:32 pm

    Good for Michael Young…..

  204. EvoLuTioN May 3rd, 2009 at 12:32 pm

    pete is part of the media, you have to expect exaggeration from him

  205. Fran May 3rd, 2009 at 12:33 pm

    Good job by Girardi. And why are many in the media only choosing to believe Roberts and her “unnamed sources”? What about the players like Michael Young and Doug M. who have come out and disputed claims Roberts alleges about Alex.

  206. vb03 May 3rd, 2009 at 12:33 pm

    What’s funny is that I have found myself defending a player I don’t really like all that much on a personal level.

    A-Rod is far from perfect. However, he is clearly being raked through the mud for profit by a scheming reporter who has no problem digging up all sorts of dirt, even those that have nothing to do with the guy’s professional career.

    Pete is right – some lines cannot be crossed. When you attack a person’s private life for the sake of greed, you have most certainly crossed the wrong sort of line.

  207. Betsy May 3rd, 2009 at 12:33 pm

    Shoot, I missed Kim Jones’ update on Marte – anyone catch it?

  208. Bob(The Original) May 3rd, 2009 at 12:33 pm

    Pete, your objectivity on this whole A-Rod thing has gone out the window.

    I don’t know why there seems to be this deep level of hate on your part towards him, but it really is starting to tarnish the other great work you do.

  209. traceyny May 3rd, 2009 at 12:33 pm

    good post will…completely agree.

    and the “tirade” thing is almost embarassing

  210. Y26 May 3rd, 2009 at 12:34 pm

    There were much worse things that Girardi could have said about Roberts than that….

    All I got from that was that he is frustrated that this is continuing to be a topic.

  211. Tantron Willoughby May 3rd, 2009 at 12:34 pm

    willis
    May 3rd, 2009 at 12:30 pm
    I wonder if Pete would support
    Selana if she wrote a tell all full of dirt on Springsteen?

    No, it would be unholy to expectorate Springy’s “working man” reputation down the cistern. We know the “boss” is all about the art and not about the money, mansions, ego, pretend concern for the lil people……..

  212. AG May 3rd, 2009 at 12:34 pm

    Haha, who was the reporter who was all, “Um, Alex was the one who tested positive for steroids and lied about it, didn’t he open the gates to some extent?” I think I love whoever that was. OK, so here’s a tip if you’re a public figure and don’t want a book written about you: don’t act like a total [fill in the blank], time and time again.

    Hilarious. I don’t have a strong opinion on Girardi either way, but you knew the 2008 version of himself was going to come out at some point.

  213. EvoLuTioN May 3rd, 2009 at 12:35 pm

    “Pete is right – some lines cannot be crossed. When you attack a person’s private life for the sake of greed, you have most certainly crossed the wrong sort of line.”

    When did Pete say that? You misunderstood him, he said Alex crossed the wrong line by tipping pitches. You think Pete would defend Alex? never.

  214. rconn23 May 3rd, 2009 at 12:35 pm

    Out of left field? I don’ think so.

    Wouldn’t you question the timing? This book isn’t “Game of Shadows” for crying out loud.

  215. DT May 3rd, 2009 at 12:35 pm

    Roberts has spent many columns on the negative virtues of A-Rod. From his real estates holdings to his steroid use.

    For someone who clearly despises this athlete isn’t it strange and somewhat ironic that for her entire future career her name will always be linked with Alex Rodriguez. (and Duke)

  216. willis May 3rd, 2009 at 12:36 pm

    But did Springsteen ever do anything bad in High School?? lol

  217. EvoLuTioN May 3rd, 2009 at 12:36 pm

    I’m gonna buy Selena’s book and burn it and ill post pics

  218. Subway Squawkers May 3rd, 2009 at 12:37 pm

    Why would Girardi complain about Selena Roberts writing on A-Rod’s personal life? After all, Selena said on national radio that she did nothing of the sort! It’s just “pure speculation,” as Roberts put it. (And yes, I’m being sarcastic.)

  219. EvoLuTioN May 3rd, 2009 at 12:37 pm

    Girardi’s so called “tirade” on YES pregame

  220. S.A.--It's a marathon, not a sprint. Calm down. May 3rd, 2009 at 12:37 pm

    Yeah, I wouldn’t really describe that as a “lengthy tirade” Pete.

  221. GoYanks May 3rd, 2009 at 12:37 pm

    I can’t believe they Berroa is starting over Pena. Pena has done nothing but good things the past few days! Phil had better avoid inducing any ground ball to the left side today.

  222. Trevor May 3rd, 2009 at 12:37 pm

    So does Berroa play tomorrow against Lester? Hope that Swisher could play so we don’t have to see Berroa.

  223. vb03 May 3rd, 2009 at 12:37 pm

    “When did Pete say that? You misunderstood him, he said Alex crossed the wrong line by tipping pitches. You think Pete would defend Alex? never.”

    I know. I’m using the same analogy, but with a different aim altogether.

    Selena Roberts crossed the wrong line already. A-Rod ALLEGEDLY crossed the wrong line regarding tipping pitches. And two of his former colleagues at Texas already stepped up to his defense regarding that, and we all know A-Rod isn’t exactly the most well-loved person in the clubhouse.

  224. Betsy May 3rd, 2009 at 12:37 pm

    LOL I’m listening to Joe speak (in part at least) on the pre-game show and that was not a tirade at all.

  225. EvoLuTioN May 3rd, 2009 at 12:37 pm

    Betsy,

    nothing new, weakeness and shoulder tendinitis

  226. Cal May 3rd, 2009 at 12:37 pm

    “Pete, your objectivity on this whole A-Rod thing has gone out the window.

    I don’t know why there seems to be this deep level of hate on your part towards him, but it really is starting to tarnish the other great work you do.”

    Pete has no objectivity when it comes to Arod, i used to enjoy Pete’s post but the moment the term Arod comes up I know what path Pete is going to take.

    I don’t think what negative thing is linked to Arod, Pete is willing to believe it no matter how far back the third party accounts go, Pete believes what he wants to on this subject.

  227. Francis May 3rd, 2009 at 12:38 pm

    Brandon – Exactly.

    Girardi has A-Rod’s back and he knows it.

  228. Dogu May 3rd, 2009 at 12:38 pm

    Jennifer—
    There’s absolutely no reason for him to even engage in the conversation. More likely than not, he’s going to end up embarrassing himself and the organization, and this is a common thing with him. Remember, Wang isn’t going to the DL… I’m personally tired of it.

    And for the 10000000000th time, Serena Roberts has nothing to do with the publicity and distribution of the book. I was pretty confident that this wouldn’t turn into a Bonds situation where the fans turn into sheep because someone can hit a baseball hard, but I guess I was wrong.

  229. traceyny May 3rd, 2009 at 12:40 pm

    ti·rade (trd, t-rd)
    n.
    A long angry or violent speech, usually of a censorious or denunciatory nature; a diatribe.

    lol pete.
    *******

    good to see the definition out there so pete can read it!

    seriously???? haaahaaa pete, com’on.

  230. BBFan May 3rd, 2009 at 12:40 pm

    “Should we now question the character of Michael Young if he associates himself with Alex Rodriguez???”

    Oh well, given his hatred for A-Rod and how well he is entrenched in supporting Selena, it will not take a minute for Pete to do that :)

  231. m May 3rd, 2009 at 12:40 pm

    lol @ Pete’s sensationalism.

  232. DT May 3rd, 2009 at 12:40 pm

    I’m beginning to think A-Rod must walk around the clubhouse with a “I hate Springsteen” T-shirt. ;-)

  233. vb03 May 3rd, 2009 at 12:40 pm

    “And for the 10000000000th time, Serena Roberts has nothing to do with the publicity and distribution of the book. I was pretty confident that this wouldn’t turn into a Bonds situation where the fans turn into sheep because someone can hit a baseball hard, but I guess I was wrong.”

    If you think she’s not getting a nice big paycheck from this book even if she has nothing to do with distribution and the timing of the release, you’re delusional.

    For the record, I don’t like A-Rod all that much personally. Didn’t like Barry Bonds either.

    However, no person deserves to have his personal life invaded and used for profit.

  234. LathamJoe May 3rd, 2009 at 12:41 pm

    Good for Joe! I thought he gave a controlled, reasonable response, given the fact that you sportwriters tried to make the whole press conference an issue about ARod. I’m not a big ARod fan. I was already of the opinion that ARod is one of those “me first” players albeit incredibly talented. But c’mon, he does not deservie to be singled out of at least 103 other violators (and common sense tell us there are hundreds more!) Why Alex? Because he sells, that’s why. Its too bad that Shill-lena Roberts is a “nothing”. Perhaps someone would write a book about her sexual escapades in High School or College – wonder how she would react to that????? :)

  235. declineoptions07 May 3rd, 2009 at 12:41 pm

    That was one of the most absurd “tirades” I have ever heard. If of course tirade is defined as “being totally annoyed with simple minded journalists asking questions about an In Touch magazine style book about a player”.

  236. Chris May 3rd, 2009 at 12:42 pm

    ti·rade (trd, t-rd)
    n.
    A long angry or violent speech, usually of a censorious or denunciatory nature; a diatribe.

    How again was this a tirade?

    You need to listen to some old Jim Leyland or Lou Pinella interviews – that will give you a good idea of what a tirade is. I think it would be better that Joe G addressed some questions after bringing up Selena’s book and the timing of it and then provided lengthy and sometimes emotional responses – but how Joe G was using violent speech – I did not hear what word that would be censored by the FCC on a broadcast.

  237. Brandon "Vote Robi Cano for MVP" "I LOVE ME SOME ME !" May 3rd, 2009 at 12:43 pm

    Michael Young is such a close friend that he was at Alex’s wedding. And yeh he said everything that needed to be said, you don’t release a spew like that w/o a legit source, what this book has turned into is a he said/she said and really right now I could careless b/c she’s not getting my hard earned dollar for this book.

    I’m waiting for someone to start a book on Mrs. Roberts now. She wants to dig dirt and ask around hey it’s only fair, I mean how pathetic is it to go to Hooters to get info if he is a good tipper ? or go to his H.S. and ask what type of player he was and if he ever drugged down there, there are hundreds, and trust me I’ve seen it w/ my own eyes, there are hundreds of players who are hush hush b/c they know if they say something it’s going to come back to bite them. I have a huge respect for Minky and Young esp. Young since he’s still in Texas and would know if something like that was up, b/c newflash Alex isn’t a guy that is great at keeping secrets.

  238. Bob(The Original) May 3rd, 2009 at 12:43 pm

    any change in the weather up there?

    It’s pouring here in DC.

  239. BBFan May 3rd, 2009 at 12:43 pm

    ““I don’t want this Alex thing to be a target. I have some issues with it. It’s interesting how the book (publication) date got moved up now. I get tired of answering these questions. I don’t understand why someone would write a book like this anyway. You know what, some people may not care to hear that, but I don’t understand it.

    “Just going into someone’s life. I have three small kids and there are things in my life that I probably wish I could have a re-do on. I wouldn’t want those dragged through the mud and I’m sure you wouldn’t, either.

    “I think sometimes, things are written about that none of us are proud of There are things in my life I’m not proud of that I’ve done. I wouldn’t want my kids to have to deal with that. I tell my kids that daddy makes mistakes, I do. And I apologize for them. I say, ‘Daddy’s not perfect.’”

    How is it a tirade?
    If there is any thing it is a very humble answer.

  240. Cal May 3rd, 2009 at 12:44 pm

    “Should we now question the character of Michael Young if he associates himself with Alex Rodriguez???”

    Oh well, given his hatred for A-Rod and how well he is entrenched in supporting Selena, it will not take a minute for Pete to do that :)

    LOL, funny you have some players saying that these statements about Arod are pretty much stupidity redefined and yet Pete doesn’t post any article, quotes, statements from those guys who have said that the claims made about Arod on the most recent subjects are pretty outlandish.

    Arod is not too likable a fellow, yet players are saying these claims by Roberts are pretty weak at best and overreaching at worst, wonder why guys who don’t like him or care much about him would say these things, when they could have just kept their mouth shut on this subject that has nothing to do with them. Hmm, I wonder why.

  241. willis May 3rd, 2009 at 12:44 pm

    LathamJoe

    I am sure Arod would put some money behind that book..lol

  242. vb03 May 3rd, 2009 at 12:45 pm

    Those defending Selena Roberts’ motives should think how it would feel to have a book in every bookstore shelf that promotes the mistakes made in their life, and encourages everybody who walks in to go ahead and take a peek.

    Writing a book about someone’s public professional career is one thing, writing about someone’s private life without his consent is totally different.

  243. Will May 3rd, 2009 at 12:46 pm

    I think we need to remember an old axiom to understand many “journalists”.

    Those who can do;
    Those who can’t, write about it.

  244. Brandon "Vote Robi Cano for MVP" "I LOVE ME SOME ME !" May 3rd, 2009 at 12:46 pm

    “Roberts has spent many columns on the negative virtues of A-Rod. From his real estates holdings to his steroid use.”

    This is a woman who flew to Miami and snooped around his neighborhood to ask if he was a good landlord for godsakes. No offense but WT…. how can anyone respect that kind of journalism ?

  245. Sore Hammy May 3rd, 2009 at 12:46 pm

    Nick in SF – where are you? We need some humor in here, it’s getting ugly.

  246. Dynasty Is Destiny! May 3rd, 2009 at 12:46 pm

    Hope we get this game in!

    Let’s Go Yanks!

  247. KRock May 3rd, 2009 at 12:47 pm

    People that write “tell all’s” about another person….To make a buck knowing that lives will be affected adversley are the scum of the earth in my opinion….I don’t care how much pete rails about her being so credible…She is profitting of a a book that is going to affect the lives of alex and his family….Unless of course all the proceeds are going to charity…But we know there is 0% CHANCE OF THAT.

  248. Frank May 3rd, 2009 at 12:47 pm

    Yeah, if that’s Girardi getting emotional then I would hate to see him when he’s bored.

    But I like what Girardi said there. When you get down to brass tax, everything he said is absolutely true. I like my manager going to bat for A-Rod there… it’s not something that’s easy to do.

    If you’re going to write a book, keep it about steroids. Keep it about things you can prove. Right now this book looks no better than muckraking.

    Bud Selid will do what he needs to do to try and help his image but nothing will come of it. My guess is two weeks after the book is released it’s a non-story.

  249. Frank May 3rd, 2009 at 12:47 pm

    Yeah, if that’s Girardi getting emotional then I would hate to see him when he’s bored.

    But I like what Girardi said there. When you get down to brass tax, everything he said is absolutely true. I like my manager going to bat for A-Rod there… it’s not something that’s easy to do.

    If you’re going to write a book, keep it about steroids. Keep it about things you can prove. Right now this book looks no better than muckraking.

    Bud Selid will do what he needs to do to try and help his image but nothing will come of it. My guess is two weeks after the book is released it’s a non-story.

  250. Chris May 3rd, 2009 at 12:48 pm

    Dogu wrote:

    And for the 10000000000th time, Serena Roberts has nothing to do with the publicity and distribution of the book. I was pretty confident that this wouldn’t turn into a Bonds situation where the fans turn into sheep because someone can hit a baseball hard, but I guess I was wrong.

    Then how come Se[l]ena Roberts is going on mlb network with Bob Costas to promote her book???

    Also – you lose a little credibility when you misspsell the name of the person you are trying to defend.

  251. EvoLuTioN May 3rd, 2009 at 12:48 pm

    “I did not hear what word that would be censored by the FCC on a broadcast.”

    hopefully the word selena makes it on the fcc censor list :lol:

  252. Betsy May 3rd, 2009 at 12:48 pm

    Thanks, Evolution! That’s concerning to me that it hasn’t gotten better since ST……Seems to me that tendonitis isn’t really so minor as people say. Tex’s wrist is just recovering fully now and Marte’s shoulder is still weak.

  253. Rick May 3rd, 2009 at 12:48 pm

    I can’t understand why Veras couldn’t be dealt for position player help to be used in AAA or AA then use the roster spot to put John Rodriquez on the 40-man roster in the event that Nady doesn’t recover or re-injures himself.

  254. bryan May 3rd, 2009 at 12:48 pm

    The witch hunt on PA in these comments is embarrassing.

  255. michael May 3rd, 2009 at 12:49 pm

    man, the commenters here are impressive. 230 + comments 20 minutes before gametime… unreal.

  256. CaptainsCorner May 3rd, 2009 at 12:50 pm

    Speaking of CC and Tex starting off slow. Here are some numbers on why we shouldn’t of expected anything different.

    Tex the last 6 years in April:
    2008 – .265
    2007 – .223
    2006 – .292
    2005 – .259
    2004 – .222
    2003 – .188

    Now CC who has had bad command and Girardi is letting him throw a ton of pitches threw his 6-7 innings.

    Sabathia has thrown 656 pitches in 39 innings through six starts (119 today). At this point last season he threw 604 covering 32

  257. Cal May 3rd, 2009 at 12:50 pm

    “Those defending Selena Roberts’ motives should think how it would feel to have a book in every bookstore shelf that promotes the mistakes made in their life, and encourages everybody who walks in to go ahead and take a peek.

    Writing a book about someone’s public professional career is one thing, writing about someone’s private life without his consent is totally different.”

    But don’t you know, because it is Arod it is okay in the minds of many folks. Its pure gutter journalism, I mean who give a flying fig about his Hooters tips or the guy’s sex life or his marriage, how is this any of our business is beyond my sense of being.

    I am not even a fan of Arod but listening to the way the media have behaved I can’t but help feel that seeing Alex winning a tittle would be sweet revenge for these media vultures, that will sink to any decadent level of behavior to make one player the face of baseball steroids. While who knows who of the 103 others on that list are still circulating in baseball and skating by without critic.

  258. Yu Conn May 3rd, 2009 at 12:50 pm

    oh. Another rainout for the Yankees!!
    all the while the REd dox have had zero (ZERO!!) rainouts this season!!

  259. declineoptions07 May 3rd, 2009 at 12:51 pm

    “The response came to a question about MLB’s investigation into Alex, which is certainly a concern for the Yankees. It’s hard to fault any manager for defending his player.
    But if Girardi actually believes what he is saying, it’s amazing that somebody so naive about how the world works these days is managing a team in New York. If somebody becomes the president or the best player in baseball, people are going to be interested in their lives. That’s just how it works. If you won’t want somebody to be interested in your life, don’t go into public life. It’s really not that complicated. I’m also not sure why Girardi brought up religion. As far as I know, nobody has ever mentioned his religion or anybody else’s in relation to the Yankees. However well-intentioned Girardi may have been today, his comments will only serve to continue the story.”

    Honestly dude – I am going to be real simple with this comment. You sound like a total fool and have made a complete joke of yourself over the past week with the Arod/Selena/Girardi stuff. Complete fool. The limited credibility you had in the yes of some has to be completely erased by now.

    Dont send me an email trying to defend yourself either because I wont reply.

  260. Peter Abraham May 3rd, 2009 at 12:51 pm

    Guys:

    I’m really not sure what you mean.

    For starters, the question about the MLB investigation was the 6th or 7th question and it was simply, “Has MLB contacted you?” That is a very reasonable question.

    Girardi brought up the book, none of us did. Meanwhile, he was about to start crying. He was very, very emotional.

    Also, again, I do not know Selena Roberts other than to say hello. I do believe that she, like any American who enjoys the liberties of our constitution, has the right to publish a book. If she libels Alex, he has the right to sue her.

    Unless you’re a simpleton, it’s pretty obvious that her publisher timed the release of the book to make money. Book publishers try to make money.

    I did not ask for this to happen this morning, nor did I ask the question. But when the manager of the Yankees brings it up, I have to report it.

    If that offends you somehow, I’m not sure what to tell you. I try and report what the manager and the players say.

  261. Brandon "Vote Robi Cano for MVP" "I LOVE ME SOME ME !" May 3rd, 2009 at 12:52 pm

    “I can’t understand why Veras couldn’t be dealt for position player help to be used in AAA or AA then use the roster spot to put John Rodriquez on the 40-man roster in the event that Nady doesn’t recover or re-injures himself.”

    I know right, jesus take a shot and attempt a deal, Milledge for Veras and put him to work in AAA something decent can be gotten for Jose Veras he’s 97 mph, if Craig Hansen can get delt then Veras certainly can.

  262. Bob(The Original) May 3rd, 2009 at 12:52 pm

    Pete, no offense but you really are being stupid about all this.

    Girardi is naive because he doesn’t see why people feel the need to dig around in people’s personal lives? You call it naive, I say it’s called being a decent person.

    You are so wrapped up in this NY Tabloid style media approach to Alex, that your judgement is terribly clouded.

    I love your blog Pete, but you really are starting to annoy me with this Alex stuff.

  263. EvoLuTioN May 3rd, 2009 at 12:53 pm

    Yu Conn,
    lol? sorry we can’t prevent rain

  264. Sea Net May 3rd, 2009 at 12:53 pm

    YU Conn,

    What? Sox have had 2 rainouts already… Tampa opening day and Minnesota last week.

    And chances are. tomorrow’s game against the Sox will be rained out as well.

  265. BoogieDown May 3rd, 2009 at 12:53 pm

    It’s pretty simple: Girardi’s protecting his own (A-Rod), and so is Pete (Selena Roberts).

    You need to take both sides with a grain of salt.

  266. kingshaffy May 3rd, 2009 at 12:53 pm

    The blind devotion of the media to Selena “duke lacrosse” Roberts is disgusting. I know Pete fawns over most women in the media (see Jones, Kimberly) but his failure to even remotely question her motives, her previous false reporting or her “unnamed” sources, while many other named sources have challenged the accusations is astonishing.

  267. S.A.--It's a marathon, not a sprint. Calm down. May 3rd, 2009 at 12:54 pm

    Not sure when exactly they plan on getting this game in.

    http://www.wunderground.com/ra.....8;ID=OKX19

  268. Cal May 3rd, 2009 at 12:54 pm

    T”he witch hunt on PA in these comments is embarrassing.”

    Know what is embarrassing, Pete believing that because Alex did fail the “secret” steroid test in 2004 that any and everything can now be applied to him and those of us who are willing to not make him guilty on hearsay alone are somehow Arod apologists and fanboys.

    Like I said where is the beef, give the details, when, where, who, what happened during these alleged Arod travails otherwise Selena and Pete are whistling Dixie.

  269. SDYankee May 3rd, 2009 at 12:54 pm

    I really like Joe G’s comments here. Regardless of what you think of A-rod, if you are on the Yankees he’s a team-mate, a co-worker, some would say he’s part of the “family”.

    As a manager, leader, or captain, publicly you need to stand up for that team-mate unless they broke the law and there is proof (like using steroirds), but if they are being ripped for not tipping, being called A-fraud in public with team-mate’s comments associated to that, yelling “i got it” on an in-field pop-up….your response should be something like “Alex works very hard in the off-season to be the best he can be and when he shows up he plays as hard as he can”. That’s soemthing Joe Torre and even Derek Jeter never have done.

  270. Brandon "Vote Robi Cano for MVP" "I LOVE ME SOME ME !" May 3rd, 2009 at 12:55 pm

    George Kontos was promoted to AAA today.

  271. m May 3rd, 2009 at 12:56 pm

    pat,

    Watching Sports Reporter now.

    Haven’t seen anything about the book.

    But they went on and on about the ticket prices again.

    For those of you who didn’t see Lupica started talking about possible class war at NYS.

    Rachel Nichols, bless her soul, slapped him down worse than Pac-Man did to Hatton. She’s all, “Where have you been? This is just like floor seats at MSG. Nothing new.”

    Then he showed his ignorance further by saying “those people who bought at top dollar must be pissed (or something like that)” Like they’re not going to be compensated?

  272. BBFan May 3rd, 2009 at 12:56 pm

    “However well-intentioned Girardi may have been today, his comments will only serve to continue the story.”

    It is the senseless idiots in the media who are continuing the story. It is not Girardi. He answered the stupid redundant questions as best as he can. If he did not answer the quesitons, you guys will be killing him now saying he is unfit to be manager of NYY and how well Torre would have handled it. Give him a break.

  273. traceyny May 3rd, 2009 at 12:56 pm

    pete girardi would laugh out loud if he saw that you labeled his comments as a “tirade.”

    It’s not about the interview, it was your choice of words I think people are annoyed with…

    as it was completely false.

  274. bodhisattva May 3rd, 2009 at 12:56 pm

    Joe pre-empt tactic is the right thing to do.

    Yankees need to be on offensive about this crap.

    I also believe he’s genuinely disgusted.

    Good job, Skipper.

  275. CaptainsCorner May 3rd, 2009 at 12:57 pm

    All Girardi’s comments say is that he is standing up for his best player. Also that basically he thinks Roberts is scum for digging so deep into info about a players life just to make a few bucks.. Info that most people shouldn’t care about unless they really have no life. Unless you want to look at her like she wrote some great novel or something??! Absolutely nothing wrong with the managers comments…

  276. Louis S May 3rd, 2009 at 12:58 pm

    “My parents always taught me that talk about the good. Be positive.” – Joe Girardi

    Unfortunately, talking about the good and positive doesn’t sell books. It really is like a witch hunt, but it is definitely self made due to A-Rod’s actions. However, lets just see what is true and what isn’t, cause they are just allegations right now. He might be guilty in the court of public opinion, but that’s it

  277. vb03 May 3rd, 2009 at 12:59 pm

    “Also, again, I do not know Selena Roberts other than to say hello. I do believe that she, like any American who enjoys the liberties of our constitution, has the right to publish a book. If she libels Alex, he has the right to sue her.”

    Pete, she’s publishing a book that vigorously attacks his privacy and exposes things that have nothing to do with baseball. For profit.

    If she had a well-meaning motive like trying to clean up baseball by exposing A-Rod’s actions on the field, she wouldn’t be criticized so badly.

    When she went off the field and dug up dirt on his private life for the sole aim of selling a book, that’s when people started seeing her for what she really is.

    You say that people in the public eye lose their privacy to a certain degree, and that’s right. However, no one deserves to have their name raked in the mud for profit.

  278. Bob(The Original) May 3rd, 2009 at 12:59 pm

    Just for the love of God, please don’t any of you buy the book and put money in this scumbag’s pockets.

  279. Brandon "Vote Robi Cano for MVP" "I LOVE ME SOME ME !" May 3rd, 2009 at 12:59 pm

    Anyone remember the Yankees acquired RHP Amaury Sanit ? that guy throws gas.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0HqyVnF4jk

  280. EvoLuTioN May 3rd, 2009 at 1:00 pm

    Why does Pete act so innocent when confronted about his exaggeration and his dislike of Arod?

  281. kingshaffy May 3rd, 2009 at 1:00 pm

    Pete, the issue we have is simple – she’s slandered the kids in the Duke lacrosse scandal and her sources here are far from reliable. Seriously, her explanation regarding Arod’s “massive” weight gain in high school was one of the stupidest things I have ever heard. What kid doesn’t go through puberty and have a growth spurt? And reliance upon an unnamed teammate from almost 20 years ago who “thought” but never witness arod taking steroids? That is irresponsible journalism. She may have found someone to say those things, but come on, its hardly reliable.

    She may have the right to print it, but that doesn’t mean its true.

    As for slander – for a public person arod would have to show actual malice – the standard is so high that he could never get a judgment against her. So your reliance upon “he can sue her” is misplaced. Sure he can, but even if false, he will not win unless he can show she knew it was false and intended to harm his reputation. Practcally impossible.

  282. rconn23 May 3rd, 2009 at 1:00 pm

    A-Rod is not the Pope or president. He’s a ballplayer. Ballplayers aren’t required to pass some moral test.

    There’s plenty of scoundrels who line the walls of the Hall of Fame that haven’t had books written about their misdeeds.

    If Roberts has named sources that say that A-Rod tipped pitches, or used steroids while in New York, bring them forward. She doesn’t though, so this book will die a relatively quick death. The sentiment among the mainstream media, for those who have read it, has been one largely of being unimpressed.

    I just want the question posed to Selena Roberts, and maybe it already has, “What is it you hoped to accomplish with this book?”

  283. Lance May 3rd, 2009 at 1:00 pm

    Rain is supposed to turn to showers at about 6

    Will they wait that long?

  284. DT May 3rd, 2009 at 1:01 pm

    Wow. What’s up with that tirade that Pete posted at 12:51?
    :-)

  285. R+ May 3rd, 2009 at 1:01 pm

    Craig Hansen brought back Jason Bay

    At the least, Veras can get us Milledge

  286. Peter Abraham May 3rd, 2009 at 1:01 pm

    Guys:

    Girardi was the verge of tears. Then he stood up and walked out of the room and literally threw up his arms and was quite upset. He was very, very emotional.

    Again, I think it’s fine he defends his player. That is what he should do. But how can you live in 2009 and not understand that celebrities get a lot of coverage? That’s just how life is.

    Alex literally employs seven publicists. Seven. He loves this stuff. He was the one sending people tips on where he would be seen with Madonna in Miami and Mexico. His people.

    You can’t have it both ways. So it’s OK to take his photo with pop stars but don’t ask whether he took steroids?

  287. Sore Hammy May 3rd, 2009 at 1:02 pm

    Pete is a messenger. No one gets upset or says he’s unbiased when he praises a player, or provides tib bits of personal info about players.

  288. David Cone's Labrum May 3rd, 2009 at 1:02 pm

    I agree with Bob. Love the blog, but sick of Pete’s sensationalization of A-Rod and his own obvious issues with the manager.

    Why do we not hear Kepner, McCarron or the others spewing this nonsense?

    And now he illuminates Girardi’s emotional state during a Q&A about one of his players who he feels has been raked over the coals. He cares about Alex, as do some of his teammates I’m sure. So he’s emotional. What’s the big deal?

    And the religion thing, Pete – why go there? What a joke you are for even bringing that up. You’re digging deep on that one.

    It’s getting tired and old, Pete. I come here for NY Yankee reporting. Not “the Weekly Pinstriped Gossip”.

  289. Elizabeth--Team Melky May 3rd, 2009 at 1:02 pm

    I abhor this whole situation with the book and Roberts. I think this is jingoistic and slimey. The biggest problem I have with it, however, is that Alex is still an active player. You want to put out a sensational piece of trash? Fine. But do it after a player’s retired.

    Oh, but I forgot. She won’t be able to drum up as much interest (erm, money)that way.

  290. DT May 3rd, 2009 at 1:03 pm

    For more bang for the buck, HarperCollins has decided to coincide the Roberts book release with A-rod’s first strike out with the bases loaded.

  291. EvoLuTioN May 3rd, 2009 at 1:03 pm

    “Alex literally employs seven publicists. Seven. He loves this stuff. He was the one sending people tips on where he would be seen with Madonna in Miami and Mexico. His people”

    yeah OKAY, all while still married with his wife right? lol pete, sometimes I feel like you’re so delusional, but then I remember this is about Alex so it’s being selectively delusional.

  292. Elizabeth--Team Melky May 3rd, 2009 at 1:03 pm

    Also, Girardi said nothing about religion. He said “faith.” That’s not the same thing.

  293. Benny Blanco May 3rd, 2009 at 1:03 pm

    Mike, all you have to do is write the name Arod and you will get 1000 posts instantly…lol

  294. Bill from NJ May 3rd, 2009 at 1:04 pm

    “If that offends you somehow, I’m not sure what to tell you. I try and report what the manager and the players say.”

    It has to do with sensationalist journalism. You can report the same events in many different ways (think CNN/FOXNEWS). It is quite obvious from the past 6 months of your reporting, that you have an agenda against A-Rod. It might not be intentional, but hundreds of people on this blog have pointed out your bias. Do not patronize us and tell us that you do not understand what everyone is getting bent out of shape over.

    I used to really enjoy your blog for its objectivity, but lately that has not been the case. Bottom line is with all the financial issues GANNETT has, it disparately wants subscriptions and wants hits on your blog. You have been creating that for better or for worse. I just wish you would come forward and explain your bias with A-Rod and with the Yankees for the that matter (it is a blog), otherwise, I’d hope someone at GANNETT would hold you responsible for enormously biased reporting.

  295. m May 3rd, 2009 at 1:05 pm

    Okay, clearly there was a mistake here. Maybe “rant” would’ve been the better word? “Tirade” has a different connotation.

  296. rodg12 May 3rd, 2009 at 1:05 pm

    Pete:
    You’re missing the whole point of the Girardi interview. It’s not that he doesn’t ‘understand’ that celebrities get the coverage they do. It’s that he doesn’t agree with it and doesn’t think it’s right. Just because he doesn’t agree with it and doesn’t think it’s right, it doesn’t mean he doesn’t understand it’s going to happen.

  297. Betsy May 3rd, 2009 at 1:05 pm

    Really, good for Joe that he’s gone to bat for his player. It’s ok for this person (I refuse to call her by name) to say whatever she wants about Alex, knowing people tend to always believe accusations (even without proof), but everyone else has to turn the other cheek? No, the media is the one who’s dragged this circus out.. Alex can’t say anything (and he shouldn’t), so his manager will. This is the kind of thing that endears managers to players – it’s easy to be a great guy when everything is going well, but it’s when things are at their lowest that true character emerges. What does this say to the players about Joe ? It tells them that their manager cares – that’s huge.

  298. Will May 3rd, 2009 at 1:05 pm

    This book is fine if Roberts is a money hungry, paparrazi-like scandal mag journalist. If that’s what she is, I have no problem. Don’t, however, try to paint her a serious journalist. A “journalist” doesn’t write a book like this…everytime someone like Pete defends Roberts, I can just imagine the great sports journalists of rolling in their graves. Sad.

  299. AG May 3rd, 2009 at 1:05 pm

    Seriously, what is more pathetic than coming on a beat reporter’s blog to constantly complain about how much you dislike the reporter? If it’s all so insufferable, go read another blog.

  300. John May 3rd, 2009 at 1:06 pm

    I have to say I agree with many of the comments and am troubled by Pete’s willingness to accept “the way the sports world works.” Selena Roberts chose to write this book. Many people in NY will choose to buy it and read it. Roberts chose to profit at the humiliation of a sports star, and the buyers will choose to spend $30 for some scandalous stories about someone they find interesting.

    Whether or not Rodriguez deserves to be humiliated isn’t the issue, that’s subjective, but either way it still makes the life of Rodriguez and his family more difficult. To call Girardi naive for recognizing that, and not just going along with a crowd of sheep who, according to Pete, “understand” better than Girardi “the way the world works” is pretty weak. C’mon Pete, you can do better.

  301. vb03 May 3rd, 2009 at 1:06 pm

    “You can’t have it both ways. So it’s OK to take his photo with pop stars but don’t ask whether he took steroids?”

    It’s not OK to publish what he does at Hooters, or whether he tips restaurants like he is supposed to. Or whatever else in that book that serves as juicy gossip and nothing to do with the baseball aspect of his life.

    It’s not OK to make a profit off the mistakes someone has made in his private life.

    It’s not OK, that 5 or 10 years from now, to have a person try to explain to his children how some of the most private events in his life got into a book at the 80% Off Bargain Bin at Barnes and Noble.

  302. jax gmen May 3rd, 2009 at 1:07 pm

    I love the chemestry of this team. Everyone having eachothers back, the manager having everyone’s back, AJ learning chinese etc.

    now we just need to get some bullpen help

  303. Backbench May 3rd, 2009 at 1:07 pm

    “So if the pen really is desperate for help put hughes in the pen.

    But you cannot keep toying with Joba’s role at this point. You just can’t.”

    Six of one, half a dozen of another, is it not?

  304. rodg12 May 3rd, 2009 at 1:08 pm

    I mean, just because it happens, Girardi’s supposed to just accept it and move on even when he doesn’t think it’s right??? No freaking way! I applaud Joe Girardi for speaking out against the deplorable reporting that is conducted today.

  305. Brandon "Vote Robi Cano for MVP" "I LOVE ME SOME ME !" May 3rd, 2009 at 1:08 pm

    “Craig Hansen brought back Jason Bay

    At the least, Veras can get us Milledge”

    You would think no ?

  306. SJ44 May 3rd, 2009 at 1:09 pm

    Pete,

    A couple of points.

    First off, Alex is one of the least popular players in the game.

    If you think him tipping off pitches could be a 7 years secret, only to be dug out by Selena Roberts, I think you are being naive.

    Look, someone risked BREAKING THE LAW, to give her his failed drug testing results.

    Do you really think him tipping off pitches would go unsaid all these years? I don’t.

    As far as Girardi’s naivete, I think this is an instance where the media in NY is so wrapped up in this story, they lose objectivity.

    Pete, most fans really don’t care about this stuff. They really don’t.

    They care about whether or not ARod hits, hits in the clutch and helps the Yankees win rings.

    They don’t care about steroids, strip clubs, swingers parties, Madonna or anything else.

    They really don’t.

    Mickey Mantle nailed everything that was around during his days on the road. He was as messed up, moreso in some ways, than Arod has ever or will ever be.

    People loved him. You know why? Becuase he WON.

    This entire story, from top to bottom, has been played out.

    Unless something new, and unsourced people talking junk is NOT new, there isn’t anything else that can be said.

    He took steroids. So did a LOT of major league players. Players people in your profession KNEW was using and have covered for them to this day.

    Arod, because he has been such a diva and phony, doesn’t have the “honor” of being shielded for his misdeeds by a fawning media. Much like Michael Jordan had during his time in the spotlight.

    For that, Arod only has himself to blame.

    For this book? Its trash Pete. If it wasn’t trash, it would have been released in April and allowed to stand on its own.

    It didn’t need to be timed to him coming back.

    You only do that when you are trying to shock somebody and not educate them on the subject matter.

  307. Mo May 3rd, 2009 at 1:09 pm

    Pete, I agree that Joe is being naive. I think the problem that people are having with the book comes from the dichotomy between Roberts’ standing as a journalist of supposedly high quality on one side, levelling some pretty strong accusations with little proof (pitch tipping in particular), and the Page 6 type stuff on the other hand. She is trying to have it both ways- publish a book that is supposed to be both a serious journalistic effort and a trashy gossipy type tome of indiscretions. It makes her serious accusations lose credibility when a lot of the stuff is about not tipping at Hooters.

  308. AG May 3rd, 2009 at 1:09 pm

    It’s so amazing to see people having such a problem with something such as Alex’s tipping percentage being published. Really, if you have a problem with that, I hope you have a problem with every single unauthorized book ever published about a celebrity, along with a problem with every celebrity-centric magazine that publishes tidbits like that.

  309. Brandon "Vote Robi Cano for MVP" "I LOVE ME SOME ME !" May 3rd, 2009 at 1:10 pm

    Jesus Waldman saids she just doesn’t see a game today.

  310. Sean Serritella May 3rd, 2009 at 1:10 pm

    I love the work Pete does. If he was to be the perfect butt kissing reporter, his work would be boring. Imagine if he posted here all day and praised A-Rod? Would you really want that?

  311. Benny Blanco May 3rd, 2009 at 1:10 pm

    “But if Girardi actually believes what he is saying, it’s amazing that somebody so naive about how the world works these days is managing a team in New York. If somebody becomes the president or the best player in baseball, people are going to be interested in their lives. That’s just how it works. If you won’t want somebody to be interested in your life, don’t go into public life. It’s really not that complicated.”

    Yikes..thats pretty emphatic statement Pete.

    quote of the day ————————————————–
    “If you won’t want somebody to be interested in your life, don’t go into public life. It’s really not that complicated.”

  312. Dan May 3rd, 2009 at 1:11 pm

    What about Veras and Tomko for Elija Dukes?

  313. Joe from Long Island May 3rd, 2009 at 1:12 pm

    Whatever else there is about Joe Girardi, I think he comes across as a genuine, sincere person, despite his misguided attempts at information control last season. If this was an act this morning, put him in for an acting award. Based on whatever, he really seemed distraught about this Alex business. Some it may be due to his frustration with dealing with this stuff, something that no baseball professional gets training in.

    As for Alex and his seven dwarfs, I mean, publicists – He has to distance himself from those guys, and do what the Yankees have reportedly told him to do for his zillions of dollars. That is, play baseball. If he plays like he is capable of, then the rest will go away.

  314. teddy May 3rd, 2009 at 1:12 pm

    yea ask question about roids, yep and he answer them at his press conference. you didn’t like his answer atleast arod was somewhat accountable. selena second rate hack.when has selena ever been held for the duke lacrosse scandal. she ruin college players lives. she a loser

  315. Brandon "Vote Robi Cano for MVP" "I LOVE ME SOME ME !" May 3rd, 2009 at 1:13 pm

    “What about Veras and Tomko for Elija Dukes?”

    Not a chance in hell.

  316. Elizabeth--Team Melky May 3rd, 2009 at 1:13 pm

    *I love the work Pete does. If he was to be the perfect butt kissing reporter, his work would be boring. Imagine if he posted here all day and praised A-Rod? Would you really want that?*

    What I want is baseball analysis and objectivity. I don’t think anyone’s suggesting he do that and, if you really read the comments, you wouldn’t think people are suggesting that, either.

  317. Peter Abraham May 3rd, 2009 at 1:13 pm

    Guys:

    I’m editing the blog posts as I go along. I was trying to get the quotes up there quickly. I’m not sure whether it was a tirade or a rant or whatever. But it was a surprise he got so emotional.

    Meanwhile, can I ask for a little perspective? I reported what the manager said. I didn’t even ask the original question. Is it really necessary to call me names and threaten to assault me?

    I mean, really. Relax. If you have some problem with my blog, don’t read it. Or write me an e-mail. But I’ve had enough with internet tough guys threatening to beat me up every time I write something they don’t like. Grow up.

    If you can’t reasonably discuss the issue, then don’t even try. Go watch cartoons. Be an adult if you want to post here.

  318. vb03 May 3rd, 2009 at 1:13 pm

    “It’s so amazing to see people having such a problem with something such as Alex’s tipping percentage being published. Really, if you have a problem with that, I hope you have a problem with every single unauthorized book ever published about a celebrity, along with a problem with every celebrity-centric magazine that publishes tidbits like that.”

    Anyone who aims to profit by divulging things about someone else’s private life, with no regards to the person they are exposing or their loved ones, should be ashamed of themselves.

  319. Michael May 3rd, 2009 at 1:13 pm

    I am so sick of hearing the media’s opinion. Report the news.

  320. ErfanK May 3rd, 2009 at 1:15 pm

    Pete,

    The religion was brought up numerous times about his link to Madonna and her following of a religion that has had an effect on A-Rod. I think, when in public life there is certain loss of privacy, but to completely break down ones life is not prudent. President Roosevelt had Polio and was in a wheelchair as a president. The press respected his privacy and did not take photographs or write about his personal life. It’s about total respect. Miss Roberts is throwing mud around but is not going to validate them through actual documents. What if someone wrote about her? or made comments about her? it’s their opinions, but i’m sure she wouldn’t be happy. I believe A-Rod is a scumbag but to give Roberts a free pass is short sighted.

  321. Betsy May 3rd, 2009 at 1:15 pm

    It’s not just that I don’t care what ballplayers do off the field, I don’t care what anyone does with their private lives. I can’t stand gossip shows like ET or rags like the National Inquirer. All they do is make $$$ off of other peoples’ problems. In the case of ET (or Access Hollywood), those slimy reports kiss up to celebs and then use their personal issues to grab ratings/headlines/whatever. It’s disgusting.

  322. vb03 May 3rd, 2009 at 1:15 pm

    I also think that Pete is entitled to his opinion and people who disagree shouldn’t be attacking him personally.

    People can disagree and have a decent conversation.

    By the way Pete, any word on if they’re getting the game in at all?

  323. jennifer May 3rd, 2009 at 1:16 pm

    Pete- That is becuase that is how Joe lives his life. He obviously isn’t like a lot of Americans who sit and watch tmz and read all those rags.

  324. Sean Serritella May 3rd, 2009 at 1:16 pm

    Michael, I like reading opinions from reporters. The news is good but not when every other newspaper is reporting the same news.

  325. Brandon "Vote Robi Cano for MVP" "I LOVE ME SOME ME !" May 3rd, 2009 at 1:17 pm

    Pete, relax atleast thier not threatening to beat you up under the Oneill’ banner, then you know it’s serious. :lol:

  326. jobalover May 3rd, 2009 at 1:17 pm

    Pete, you need to listen to the audio you posted. One of the questions did specifically mention Selena Roberts and the book which is when Joe said that. This was not a response to the question of whether he was contacted by MLB.

  327. m May 3rd, 2009 at 1:17 pm

    I don’t think Joe was being naive. He just didn’t want to say what was really on his mind. He didn’t want to call her names because it would be unprofessional.

    No one can deny that Roberts has the right to do what she wants, but it seems rather tabloid-like. But if the claims of Alex doing steroids since high school and the pitch-tipping thing are true, then it’s rather significant.

    Unfortunately, she didn’t fabricate this stuff. There are enough people who, for whatever reason, were willing to dish on Alex. The “facts” as they are, may be true or not, but the truth remains that she found enough people willing to talk to her.

    I’m sure they could write a book about Jeter, too. But a book about his exploits and kicking girls out of his condo without parking garage money wouldn’t have much merit.

  328. teddy May 3rd, 2009 at 1:18 pm

    yea threating pete isn’t very mature, i have to agree with pete. is his blog, thats why i don’t swear on it

  329. jennifer May 3rd, 2009 at 1:18 pm

    Looks like it is clearing up in Bergen Co NJ.

  330. Betsy May 3rd, 2009 at 1:19 pm

    I appreciate Joe showing emotion, Pete. He’s not a robot, he’s a human being. You’ve said yourself that personally you actually like him very much – even though he had problems with the media last year. If that’s the case, it’s because Joe is a genuinely good guy – he was one when he was a player and he still is. I imagine Joe has empathy for Alex – he’s a compassionate person. This has all been building up inside – at some point, he needed to let it out. Enough with turning the other cheek – the stuff needed to be said.

  331. S.A.--It's a marathon, not a sprint. Calm down. May 3rd, 2009 at 1:19 pm

    While we wait, Heat vs Hawks Game 7 on ABC
    Or we could start up the good old Posada vs. Molina debate
    :P

  332. Bill from NJ May 3rd, 2009 at 1:19 pm

    “Alex literally employs seven publicists. Seven. He loves this stuff. He was the one sending people tips on where he would be seen with Madonna in Miami and Mexico. His people.”

    Since we do not have the privilege (sarcasm) of speaking directly with Selena Roberts about her exaggerated stories, we do have the privilege of speaking with you about your exaggerated stories. Since publicists are not “confidential/off the record” sources”, how about you explain this one a little better.

    I hardly doubt that A-Rod’s publicists were telling paparazzi were to find him having an affair, when he was still married and has kids. I can understand if he was a scumbag he wouldn’t care about his kids or his wife, but from what the media portrays hes money hungry. The wrong photographs of him and anyone other than his wife would cost him a pretty penny in divorce court!

  333. Clint May 3rd, 2009 at 1:20 pm

    The Snr. Citizen just can’t catch a break… he finally gets a chance to start and the game is probably going to get rained out

  334. DT May 3rd, 2009 at 1:20 pm

    Girardi isn’t stupid.

    He saw the rain outside. He knew it might be a slow news day.

    He expanded his A-Rod thoughts to give Pete’s blog more hits.
    Joe cares. He really does.

  335. Mr. Anon May 3rd, 2009 at 1:20 pm

    teixeira is a bum

  336. JoeyA May 3rd, 2009 at 1:21 pm

    For this book? Its trash Pete. If it wasn’t trash, it would have been released in April and allowed to stand on its own.

    It didn’t need to be timed to him coming back.

    You only do that when you are trying to shock somebody and not educate them on the subject matter.

    —————–

    100% agree. This is the worst part about this whole situation. Is it not obvious the woman has some personal vendetta against the man. She is coming out with basically a smear book, cited by anonymity, and coinciding the release date with his coming off the DL.

    If this woman has any credibility, or morality for that matter, I would be shocked.

    No matter how true or false the claims are, her intentions can’t be argued.

    Pete, this isn’t some informative book on the life of Alex, it’s a shock book to make money. So don’t pull the investigative and truth-seeking nature of the book BS.

    And no matter how public a person’s life is, nobody who hasn’t committed a haneous crime deserves to have their life smeared in public, without the slightest bit of objectivity.

    Trash, plain and simple.

  337. Benny Blanco May 3rd, 2009 at 1:21 pm

    “Meanwhile, can I ask for a little perspective? I reported what the manager said. I didn’t even ask the original question. Is it really necessary to call me names and threaten to assault me?”

    There you go again taking things out of context. People on this blog would not lay a finger on you pete. IMO, you are cool as heck, but some people are passionate about their beliefs. Sometimes we can agree to disagree. Pete if you can dish the heat you have to be able to take it. Its part of the game.

  338. CaptainsCorner May 3rd, 2009 at 1:22 pm

    I can’t understand how someone who wrote a book about all of the negative things in someone else’s life is looked at like a “good reporter” or a respected one..? Writing a TMZ gossip book with “sources” looking to make some money off of hurting someone else shows what kind of person she is most then anything else.

  339. Betsy May 3rd, 2009 at 1:22 pm

    M, she’s got nothing. Who cares that she was able to scrounge up some people who hate Alex? There is nothing to this pitch tipping – it’s pretty obvious – and I think I’ll not take the word of unnamed sources. Until Alex is proven to have failed a test beyond 2003, this pitiable creature has nothing.

  340. SCRANTON May 3rd, 2009 at 1:22 pm

    Pete how is it fair for journalists to use these nameless sources? How can Selena Roberts prove what she is saying is true? So can I write a book about anyone make up lies about them and say an anonymous source told me? Is there any rules in journalism or can you just say whatever you think will sell books?

  341. eyes of realism May 3rd, 2009 at 1:22 pm

    The Selena Roberts book will see the same fate as Torre’s book did.
    Anybody seeing the Torre book flying off the shelves ?
    Selena Roberts will be seen as a buffoon among journalists in short order. With any luck she’ll find herself as a classified sales rep at a small town newspaper with a 20,000 circulation.

  342. BBFan May 3rd, 2009 at 1:23 pm

    Is there any chance of this game getting in today?
    It is raining a lot in Cenral Jersey and it is moving towards NY.

  343. Sean Serritella May 3rd, 2009 at 1:24 pm

    That’s not cool threatening to beat some one up because you don’t like their opinion on something. Seriously not cool. I’m pretty bothered by it right now.

  344. Peter Abraham May 3rd, 2009 at 1:24 pm

    Guys:

    I wish I didn’t have to do this so often. But you CANNOT swear on this blog. Or abbreviate curse words, use dashes, etc.

    This blog is part of my newspaper and they just won’t allow it. Such comments will be deleted.

    You also cannot post personal attacks on anybody. Or make crude sexual remarks.

    If you’re incapable of adhering by these simple rules, please do not post.

  345. GZA May 3rd, 2009 at 1:25 pm

    According to AccuWeather, the rain’s supposed to stop from 3 to 4, then again from 5 to 7.

  346. John May 3rd, 2009 at 1:25 pm

    Pete,

    I think you were right on the money when you pointed out that A-Rod cultivates this attention. He has all these publicists and if he is “tipping” people as to where he is going to be or what he is going to be doing as to get publicity, well, that publicity is eventually going to bite you in the you know what, especially if you’re doing some pretty shady things.
    Having said that, my MAJOR problem is with Roberts and the WAY she has gone about this. I admit, I am biased because I think the way she went after the Duke Lacrosse players while at the NYTimes was nothing short of despicable, and the fact that, to this day, she can’t admit she was wrong shows a glaring lack of morality in my opinion. Those young men were tarnished for life in no small part by a columnist, sitting in New York, passing judgement without any of the facts.
    So, when I see that she has written a book about A-Rod where all of her facts seem to be coming from “unamed sources” I have to question how legit that story may be. Sorry, I know A-Rod is not exactly warm and fuzzy, and I am not personally a big fan (I wanted him gone when he opted out of his contract) but this is the man’s life we are talking about here and, if someone is going to write a book, which is certainly her RIGHT, she should have the decency to directly quote people who are making these allegations.
    Someone in the interview asked Girardi about the Torre book. If I remember correctly, that book had one or two “unamed” guys mentioned, but the vast majority of the book was backed with direct quotes from people willing to go on the record. If you’re going to accuse someone of cheating in his profession in a variety of ways over the course of several years, shouldn’t those allegations be backed with direct quotes from people willing to put their face to the stories? And the fact that, in an interview, Roberts said that those unamed sources, coupled with A-Rod “bulking up” while in high school, offered “irrefutable” evidence in her mind shows the level of arrogance within her, similar to the arrogance she showed, and continues to show, as she libeled and slandered young kids from Duke.
    Do I believe A-Rod is capable of doing what is alleged? How could you not. He already lied about using Roids, and I have no doubt the truth is far more detailed than he has yet to disclose (and, unfortunately, he probably did use while with the Yanks) but that doesn’t give Roberts the excuse (I won’t say right) to go out there and throw around accusations with only “unamed sources” to back up her claims, sources she will never reveal.

  347. Kevin Page May 3rd, 2009 at 1:25 pm

    Who is actually buying this A-Rod book? If you like A-Rod you don’t want to read dirt about him.

    If you hate him, why would you want to read about someone you don’t like?

    If you don’t love/hate him, why would you even care about the story?

    So who is the target audience for this thing??????

    Like most journalism, they force feed negative stories nd claim that most of the public wants to hear about it.

  348. Patrick May 3rd, 2009 at 1:25 pm

    It’s good that Girardi is trying to defend A-rod. I think he was bringing up religion in an attempt to point out the only thing in his off-the-field lifestyle that could be even remotely controversial. Not everyone believes in religion just like not everyone believes in hiring prostitutes? Pretty poor attempt IMO but he’s trying to help A-rod which I appreciate. I’m not a huge A-rod lover but a manager has to protect his players.

  349. Ben May 3rd, 2009 at 1:27 pm

    Scranton–

    A-Rod can sue, and then she has to name her sources. If she doesn’t, she goes to jail.

    Honestly, I couldn’t hate Roberts any more, I’m totally on board with Girardi. The ONLY reason she’s publishing this book is because she’s an unscrupulous fool who only cares about making a name for herself and making money. It’s pathetic, really.

  350. ILUVIHOP May 3rd, 2009 at 1:28 pm

    pancakes — is this a swear word??

  351. Peter Abraham May 3rd, 2009 at 1:28 pm

    Benny:

    I’ll be happy to forward you the e-mails I’ve received or the comments that have been filtered out. It’s pretty ridiculous. People write crazy things to me and have said other things too disturbing to mention. It’s kind of sad that people get so worked up about baseball.

  352. trisha - click to see my bigger and better Opening Day pictures May 3rd, 2009 at 1:29 pm

    “Girardi was the verge of tears. Then he stood up and walked out of the room and literally threw up his arms and was quite upset. He was very, very emotional.”

    So let me see, Girardi has had to deal with the NY press on mundane matters such as managing the Yankees, and interspersed between is the NY media all over him for “lying” and then the NY media all over him about the steroids report, and now the NY media once again hovering about Roberts’ book.

    I’d be on the verge of tears too.

    An astute observer of Girardi has already noticed that Girardi is a very emotional man, not in the tirade sense but in the compassion sense. When he answered questions about the Angels’ pitcher who was killed in the auto accident, it was reported that he had “tears running down his face.” He talked about a 22-year-old losing his life. He didn’t know the player. But still he was that affected.

    He appears to be feeling compassion for one of his players whose life appears is being smeared from cover to cover.

    Joe, let’s talk about your offense that isn’t hitting, your bullpen that is falling apart, your starters who aren’t getting the job done, your players who are injured, and when you come up for a breath let’s talk about Arod and how it seems to be fair game to the NY journlists to discuss his personal life because after all didn’t the steroids issue open the door? And hey, what’s this we see, emotion to the point where it appears you might be ready to cry?

    Quick, let me get my notebook!

  353. Tank May 3rd, 2009 at 1:29 pm

    I hope Ms. Roberts book sells 1 copy. She has yet to apology to the Duke Lacrosse boys for ruining their lives.

  354. TexasYanksfan May 3rd, 2009 at 1:29 pm

    CC and Tex are gonna be fine. I just want to see Hughes follow up with another solid start.

  355. ellen May 3rd, 2009 at 1:29 pm

    Ben – if ARoad brings a law suit, even if he wins (which is difficult, given that he is a public figure), Selena Roberts will not go to jail. It’s not a criminal case. He would get $$ damages if he wins a libel/slander suit.

  356. pc69 May 3rd, 2009 at 1:30 pm

    SJ44, so much for ARod free but I agree your post on ARod. This story has legs because of ESPN, Selena needing to sell a book, and the NY Media wrapped up in the Rupurt Murdoch school of journalistic morality.

    Frankly, this is such an over played story that it detracts from all the great stories out there in baseball. But this is the price you pay when you are as controversial as ARod AND most important, have an industry of bloggers instead of writers. Gone are the days of journalist; instead there are people out there selling tabloid style writing lacking any sort of substance.

    I am not a huge fan of ARod, I think he has pissed away all his talent for self indulgence, but enough is enough. I frankly no longer care who took what or when they did it or if it was a cream, a shot, or a pill.

    But that is the very sad state of journalism.

  357. d May 3rd, 2009 at 1:30 pm

    “However well-intentioned Girardi may have been today, his comments will only serve to continue the story.”

    I absolutely love this comment. The only thing continuing this story is Pete and his colleagues. That’s literally the only thing continuing this story. Nobody really cares anymore, yet every day when we come here to read about personnel moves, players comments, etc etc., we get bombarded almost daily with negativity about the teams best player. You could have posted the comments without your opinion. I dunno maybe you the average Yankees is stupid and can’t form an opinion without hearing yours first, but I don’t think thats the case.

  358. Renny May 3rd, 2009 at 1:31 pm

    Have they decided on the game yet?

  359. Stephen May 3rd, 2009 at 1:31 pm

    Anybody seeing the Torre book flying off the shelves ?

    —-

    Actually, I believe it debuted at #1 on the NYT Bestseller List. It’s currently #9, 10 weeks after publication.

    But why let facts get in the way?

  360. Tank May 3rd, 2009 at 1:31 pm

    Likewise, I hope Hughes continues to develop and pitch like we all think he can.

  361. Aunt Becca-Optimist Prime May 3rd, 2009 at 1:32 pm

    “Benny:

    I’ll be happy to forward you the e-mails I’ve received or the comments that have been filtered out. It’s pretty ridiculous. People write crazy things to me and have said other things too disturbing to mention. It’s kind of sad that people get so worked up about baseball.”

    All you have to do is check out the thread for the Final Game or the All Star Game to see some of the worst. They’re still up there.

  362. GMAN May 3rd, 2009 at 1:32 pm

    Wow…disappointing pontification about the style of answer a Yankee Manager offers in response to a question from a member of the media.

  363. LathamJoe May 3rd, 2009 at 1:32 pm

    Hey Pete:

    “We’re gonna try to move on from this”

    “I get tired of answering those questions”

    Those were a few of Girardi’s quotes when you sportwriters asked EIGHT straight questions (at the end of the interview) about the ARod fiasco – YOU asking most of them.

    Did you ever get a sense that he wanted to answer questions about …yesterdays Game? today’s game? the health of his ballplayers?
    the performance of the rest of his ballplayers?
    ANYTHING but the ARod articles?

    Now Who’s being childish and naive??????

  364. SCRANTON May 3rd, 2009 at 1:33 pm

    Pete, please explain this to me. What if this book is all lies? (Well we know its not all lies) What recourse does Alex have? To me it seems very unfair. Are there any laws or regulations in journalism?

  365. teddy May 3rd, 2009 at 1:33 pm

    pete so we can’t take shot at selena, but your taking shot at arod any chance you get. thats just great. i stop taking shots at selena, is your blog, i can respect that and i agree threating you is pathetic

  366. rich james May 3rd, 2009 at 1:33 pm

    in my opinion..

    If selena roberts wants to write a book about A-Rod steroids use and the way it has effect him and his teams…SO BE IT!

    but this book is not just that…it’s talking about Hooters…and strip joints..and maddona…and i just think thats not fair to a person!

    Pete, how in god’s name can you say because the whole steroids thing came out and Alex got outed for lying…that opens up the door for all his personal life to be exposed for the whole world to see???

  367. Stev55 May 3rd, 2009 at 1:33 pm

    I don’t understand the “naive comment.” Maybe Pete can explain what he meant by it and that might clear some things up. Just from reading and listening to the excerpts, Girardi didn’t seem to suggest that he was shocked that someone would write a book like this, rather he he was disgusted by it. He seemed, in fact, to suggest several times that he was NOT naive (i.e. that’s just me, that’s how I was raised, etc.).

    Girardi was stating a principal. One that isn’t stated enough in my opinion. This country has a somewhat startling obsession with the failures of others. The enjoyment that people seem to take in the blunders of others is disturbing. Now, steroids and tipping pitches is “on field stuff,” and by all means should be addressed. But what he tips a waitress? The saying that “well if you’re a celebrity it’s the price you pay,” is a scary and lazy concept. I applaud Girardi for not throwing his hands up and saying “oh well, that’s just the way it is.” I mean, it may be the price you pay, but shouldn’t we strive for better? Girardi wasn’t saying he was surprised by the book, just that it didn’t conform with his principles. I happen to agree with him and appreciate him saying so. There’s a big difference between being naive and believing that something ought to change.

  368. Pete's Missing Neck May 3rd, 2009 at 1:33 pm

    Pete will be posting excerpts from Selena’s book, I’m sure. Media brethren slither together like pit vipers.

  369. Eric May 3rd, 2009 at 1:34 pm

    Great attempt to defend Roberts there Pete with Girardi. Way to go. Liked how you attempted to say that Arod opened the door to a book that has been in the works for two years by admitting to steroid use two months ago. Was that one of the talking points Roberts sent you?

  370. Boston Dave May 3rd, 2009 at 1:34 pm

    “If you won’t want somebody to be interested in your life, don’t go into public life. It’s really not that complicated.”

    ——–

    true, but you’re acting like this is a traditional biography Pete.

    It’s all negative and as biased as it gets. Those in the public don’t always get a fair shake, by any means, but there are few in the public short of George Bush who have been attacked in this manner.

  371. Yankaddict May 3rd, 2009 at 1:34 pm

    What is painfully clear is that YOU HATE A-rod. You support that pig Selena. You continue to push your view onto us readers and you are not doing your job. What you should do…is give us the information without your spin. Let us decide ourselves if A-rod is the Anti-christ. If Selena should have a book written about her..I have unnamed sources who said they MIGHT have heard that she MIGHT not like men. NOW THATS NEWSWORTHY!

  372. Renny May 3rd, 2009 at 1:36 pm

    Pete
    By your logic, I guess you deserve to receive all those terrible things that people write to you because you are a public figure whose every decision must be scrutinized. Or are the media, of which you belong, the only people allowed to throw stones?

  373. Ben May 3rd, 2009 at 1:36 pm

    ellen–

    I think you’re right. A-Rod being a public figure only allows the media to criticize him; they cannot write a book like this that ruins him without naming their sources, if A-rod claims it’s untrue.

    If he takes her to court and she doesn’t name her sources, he wins the case and, realistically, he could win hundreds of millions in damages. If you think about how big his current contract is, he could argue that this would make teams think twice about another one, and claim over 100 million in damages.

    So she’d have no choice but to name her sources.

    I say he should take her to court: Think about it, he has nothing to lose (most of the public already hates him and he has plenty of money to afford the case). The only person with something to lose is Selena Roberts. She either reveals her sources or is forced to pay an incredible sum of money. If she reveals her sources, she’s screwed, if she doesn’t, she’s screwed.

    I say go for it A-rod!

  374. Eric May 3rd, 2009 at 1:36 pm

    He could sue her, but he’d have to be careful to limit the inquiry into those specific lies. He’d probably have to deal with the steroid stuff and get it all rehashed again. Still, given that he makes 27 million dollars a year, he could certainly get a legal team that would crush her/ruin her career. I almost think it would be worth it.

    ——————————–
    SCRANTON May 3rd, 2009 at 1:33 pm

    Pete, please explain this to me. What if this book is all lies? (Well we know its not all lies) What recourse does Alex have? To me it seems very unfair. Are there any laws or regulations in journalism?

  375. John May 3rd, 2009 at 1:36 pm

    Pete,

    How do you feel about unamed sources, especially in this context? As a journalist, would you feel comfortable printing accusations made by individuals who would not put their name to their quotes?
    And also, does it matter that those accusations are made against a not-so-popular guy? What I mean is, people already looked at A-Rod as a clown and a phony, a guy who people aren’t predisposed to liking, so they might be more inclined to believe the accusations anyway. I don’t mean you go out and print absolute falsehoods, but it would seem more likely that a journalist could get away with printing unattributed accusations against someone unpopular than someone very popular, like a Derek Jeter or, in another sport, Lebron James. Just wondering about your opinion.

  376. pc69 May 3rd, 2009 at 1:36 pm

    But if somebody becomes the president or the best player in baseball, people are going to be interested in their lives. That’s just how it works. If you won’t want somebody to be interested in your life, don’t go into public life. It’s really not that complicated.

    Actually that is load of crap and short sighted. So the Presidents daughters, who are a by product of their parents ambition, must suffer at the ignorance of sleeze bags doing anything for money?

    It is now a toss up who is worse, Lawyers, Politicians or journalist.

  377. Eric May 3rd, 2009 at 1:37 pm

    Good for Girardi. Selena Roberts clearly has issues of her own. Tearing someone down — what a way to make a living.

  378. Eric May 3rd, 2009 at 1:38 pm

    BREAKING NEWS FROM ROBERTS! AROD MAKES FOOL OF SELL BY WEARING YANKEE HAT TO STRIP CLUB. READ ALL ABOUT IT.

    http://www.nypost.com/seven/05.....167436.htm

    How can anyone in their right mind defend this woman.

  379. Eric May 3rd, 2009 at 1:39 pm

    Correction “May 3rd, 2009 at 1:38 pm

    BREAKING NEWS FROM ROBERTS! AROD MAKES FOOL OF SELF* BY WEARING YANKEE HAT TO STRIP CLUB. READ ALL ABOUT IT.

  380. Zooboy May 3rd, 2009 at 1:40 pm

    A-Rod: weapon of mass distraction. (snore)

  381. Boston Dave May 3rd, 2009 at 1:40 pm

    “Is that an indictment on the entire organization and their failure to address bullpen issues? Absolutely.”

    ——

    SJ44, IIRC, you were a huge supporter of the bullpen as presently constructed in addition to the vast # of arms in the farm system as backups. You’ve also said, probably wisely, that paying big $ for free agent relievers tends to be a bad idea.

    How can you say they failed to address the bullpen?

  382. Stev55 May 3rd, 2009 at 1:40 pm

    “Good for Girardi. Selena Roberts clearly has issues of her own. Tearing someone down—what a way to make a living.”

    Well said. Now any news on this game?

  383. Jake May 3rd, 2009 at 1:40 pm

    I bought the Torre book. I’ve read anything that’s come out on his era of the team, since that’s what I’ve largely grown up with (I’m 25). Everything from the book on the Last Night of the Dynasty to Living on the Black (the book about Mussina & Glavine in ’07).

    However I would not waste my money on this smear book. Honestly, even if a book came out smearing a player I hated, such as Bonds, I really have no interested in reading about their personal lives. I just don’t care. And I don’t think as many people will care enough to buy this one, either.

    I mean, really… the bulk of the ‘gossip’ has already been released. What is she going to fill the other 250 pages with? His toothpaste preference? Which shoe goes on first?

    WHO CARES?

  384. Doris from Rego Park May 3rd, 2009 at 1:41 pm

    Pete- the nutjobs on here attacking are delusional as AROD. Its embarassing, really. That being said, please keep in mind these are the same people who are CONVINCED that the Red Sox “buy” the umpires and ESPN is one big anti-yankee conspiracy. If Arod were on the Sox they wouldnt be preaching about how unfair it is to have his pesonal life dredged up, I can promise you that. Laugh it off.

  385. Eric May 3rd, 2009 at 1:42 pm

    I’ve said it before, I’ll say it again. A-Rod did steroids. End of story. The fact that they moved the release date of the book tells you that Selena Roberts and her publisher are opportunists who don’t have even have a modicum of decency. It’s a sad commentary on the state of journalism today.

  386. Boston Dave May 3rd, 2009 at 1:42 pm

    “It is now a toss up who is worse, Lawyers, Politicians or journalist.”

    ——

    problem with that is that people keep hiring lawyers, electing politicians, and reading journalists work.

    can’t blame them without blaming the people who support them.

    if people changed their ways, things would change. complaining about them isn’t a solution. the solution is to do something about it.

  387. d May 3rd, 2009 at 1:42 pm

    I’d be willing to bet, that we are soon about to get “UPDATE 1:45 PM: Here’s the most sarcastic and condescending way I can talk about the commenters. Rather than address their concerns in a mature manner, I’m going to imply that they are stupid for liking the players on their favorite team, and not kissing the ground I walk on. Anyone who doesn’t blindly follow the word of a woman who makes her livelihood slandering 18 year old boys or gossiping about players is an idiot. Now speaking of the game today….”

  388. kill.schill(ing) May 3rd, 2009 at 1:43 pm

    Did I miss something in the interview?

    I actually thought Girardi responded in a more measured and tactful fashion than I’m accustomed.

    I’m hardly a Girardi enthusiast but I thought he was at his best today, displaying the thoughful intelligence that prompted the Yankees to hire to begin with.

    His brave call to respect the line between public conduct and private behavior has always generated provocative debate in our country– “Ma, Ma, Where’s My Pa?”. In particular, about where to draw it.

    I commend Girardi for even broaching it. (Most public figures are too afraid they’ll provoke the press and their image will suffer from the retaliation.)

    “A lengthy tirade” hardly describes the tenor of the Girardi I heard.

    In addition, the only naivete I’ve detected on this subject has circulated among reporters who feign ignorance about why the “Many Lives’” publication date seems to change every other week to coincide, as much as possible, with A-Rod’s return.

    Can anyone recall a similar instance of a publication date changing 4 or more times in less than three months for a much-publicized book?

    Could Selena have that much difficulty estimating her fluency or meeting her deadlines? Does the publisher honestly believe book buyers’ purchasing habits are so volatile?

    Why does the date keep changing? Why else: the publisher wants the book to correspond to A-Rod’s return so that A-Rod can’t duck the allegations, another feeding frenzy engulfs him and the Yankess as a result, and they sell more books.

    TO illustrate, would that bumptious fool, Andrew Marchand, even have asked Girardi about the book was Alex not scheduled to return in a week? But for A-Rod’s imminent return, would any reporter have seen fit to raise it in a manager’s press conference? Well, Marchand, maybe, but then again, he doesn’t seem to mind looking like an ignoramus.

    BTW, are you press guys intimidated by Girardi? It sure sounds like it.

  389. YankeeVIP May 3rd, 2009 at 1:43 pm

    this is the key point i think girardi is trying to make here.. roberts is suppose to be a sports journalist.. so write about sports. all the PED and pitch tipping stuff is fine to write about if she can prove it. but all the other lifestyle stuff is nothing more then tabloid gossip.. it reduces her to the same level as a TMZ paparazzi stalking paris hilton…

    unfortunately all that page 6 tabloid gossip sells books and creates controversy.. and obviously thats what her objective is.. not to provide an expose of Arod the athlete.

    agreed.. people want to know about celebrities, but all that stuff has its place.. you dont see Tom Brokaw talking about lindsay lohan. and roberts should not be called a real journalist.

  390. Sean Serritella May 3rd, 2009 at 1:43 pm

    I can’t believe how many people are upset over A-Rod. I can only imagine what would happen if Derek Jeter had 1 bad mention from Pete. The blog would probably explode.

  391. Michael May 3rd, 2009 at 1:44 pm

    Hey Peter, can we please get an update on the rain delay?

  392. DT May 3rd, 2009 at 1:44 pm

    “What if this book is all lies? (Well we know its not all lies) What recourse does Alex have? To me it seems very unfair. Are there any laws or regulations in journalism?”

    Alex can sue for libel. Dumb thing to do, since it just gives the book more publicity.

    Torre’s book had two things going for it. Subject matter and the author. Some people wanted to hear what Torre said.

    Robert’s book has subject matter. That’s it. If it was a co-write with ex-wife Cynthia for example, it would have more publicity legs.

    IMO – Roberts wasn’t counting on Alex’s steroid admission and apology. The pitch tipping stuff might not have even been in the original version. She needed something to get people talking. Tipping at Hooters and toothpaste won’t do it.

    Double edge sword – you need to spill dirt up front to get a publicity buzz. (like a movie trailer) If the dirt is lame, or you can’t tease the public into what else is to come – you’re gonna flop.

  393. Kevin Page May 3rd, 2009 at 1:45 pm

    Pete,

    I enjoy your column and you seem like a genuinely nice guy, so I don’t want to take any shots against you, BUT since you are an internet celebrity and have your pictured plastered on this blog and webcasts you are fair game, correct???

    I get the whole “Roberts is on my team, so I have to defend her blindly”, so why do you get all over anyone else or Giradi for defending Alex?

    If a journalist is going to go into attack mode, then the journalist becomes fair game. Only thing is that celebrities don’t have the time or concern to deal with slinging mud. They are actually DOING what most journalists are soooo jealous of.

  394. GZA May 3rd, 2009 at 1:45 pm

    “Mr. Willoughby, check the record: he’s had a slow start every year.”

    Not quite. He’d never had as bad an April as this one just past. At least not in terms of batting average. Before this season, he was a .250 hitter during the cruelest month. Not all that slow for a guy who was a career .289 hitter coming into this season.

  395. pc69 May 3rd, 2009 at 1:45 pm

    ERIC
    BREAKING NEWS FROM ROBERTS! AROD MAKES FOOL OF SELL BY WEARING YANKEE HAT TO STRIP CLUB. READ ALL ABOUT IT.

    How can anyone in their right mind defend this woman.

    Agreed. Another fine piece of journalism from a quality fish wrap, the NY Post. Seriously, that paper needs to do us all a favor and recycle itself into history. It is just like most papers, AP wire feeds bundled with National Enquirer stories. Edward R Murrow must be laughing.

  396. Brandon "Vote Robi Cano for MVP" "I LOVE ME SOME ME !" May 3rd, 2009 at 1:46 pm

    “Benny:

    I’ll be happy to forward you the e-mails I’ve received or the comments that have been filtered out. It’s pretty ridiculous. People write crazy things to me and have said other things too disturbing to mention. It’s kind of sad that people get so worked up about baseball.”

    That’s sad Pete, but the thing is this isn’t about baseball, if it was just about onfield subjects you wouldn’t be getting that much of a reaction, this is about a person’s right to thier off field life.

    Asking Hooter waitresses for tipping info, how many resteraunts do you go to get that info ?

    Asking if he is a good landlord ?

    Asking what he does when he meets a girl ?

    Asking H.S. coachs and friends for info on him as a teen ?

    I mean give me a break. And the funny thing is everyone who admitted to seeing him do something or heard of him doing something is an unnamed source, we’re suppose to respect that type of journalism ?

    I hear Richard Neer on WFAN trying to say that fans are shooting the messenger “lets not shoot the messenger” the messenger has screwed up before (Duke lacrosse scandal), the messenger right now is the acting extortionist how are we suppose to wait to criticize her or even give her the benefit of a doubt when she hasn’t even owned up to her first mistake.

  397. Ben May 3rd, 2009 at 1:46 pm

    I completely agree with Eric, and Doris…

    It’s not that most of us our delusional…I can’t stand A-Rod. I hate him and I wish he wasn’t on the Yankees. He’s terrible for this team, and his talent is not worth it. I root for him because he’s a Yankee, but the day he’s not I’ll stop right away.

    That being said, Selena Roberts entire book is pathetic. Her goal in life is clearly to take him down and make a name for herself. She probably thinks she’s doing the right thing, too. Ruining someone’s life (whether they deserved it or not doesn’t matter) ONLY to make a name for herself and make money. Then moving the release date up when there appears to be a few weeks WITHOUT any A-Rod talk.

    What she’s doing is awful. She did it to the Duke lacrosse boys, and she’s ruining A-Rod’s life. I’m entirely with Girardi…writing a book like this says a lot about her as a person–that is, she’s not one I’d ever want to associate with.

  398. Betsy May 3rd, 2009 at 1:47 pm

    IF this game gets rained out, Phil will have to be skipped to keep AJ on rotation. I don’t like him in the pen, but I think that it has to be done in order to keep him sharp until his next start…..

  399. Chris May 3rd, 2009 at 1:47 pm

    Pete’s constant defending of Selena Robert’s is becoming sickening. He seems to forget her hand in the whole Duke fiasco. Everything she wrote was false, and now we’re supposed to believe everything she says??? ANd now he questioning Girardi for defending A-Rod?? Grow up Pete.

  400. Boston Dave May 3rd, 2009 at 1:48 pm

    here’s a novel idea for those of you who don’t like Pete constantly bashing A-Rod….

    Stop reading the blog and posting in it. When Pete makes ARod threads, the posts and views go through the roof. Why would he stop???

    Without us, Pete’s blog is nothing. Pete has essentially shown that he is more concerned with quantity (views and posts) than quality. He would rather have 2,000 horrible posts than 500 great ones. You can’t blame him for that either. It’s his job.

    If you don’t like what he’s saying, boycott the blog.

  401. pc69 May 3rd, 2009 at 1:48 pm

    Boston Dave
    May 3rd, 2009 at 1:42 pm
    “It is now a toss up who is worse, Lawyers, Politicians or journalist.”
    ———
    problem with that is that people keep hiring lawyers, electing politicians, and reading journalists work.
    can’t blame them without blaming the people who support them.
    if people changed their ways, things would change. complaining about them isn’t a solution. the solution is to do something about it.

    So true, so true. As they say, tough to change the habits of lemmings.

  402. John May 3rd, 2009 at 1:50 pm

    Scranton,

    I know a little bit about this so I’ll try and answer your question. For regular folks, in order to prove libel you simply have to PROVE that what was written was false and that it had a negative impact on your life and reputation, opened you up to discrimination, etc….
    Because A-Rod is a public figure, he would have to not only prove the information was wrong, he would have to prove “actual malice,” which means that the journalist (Roberts) published the information knowing it was wrong and did so because she wanted to injure A-Rod OR she published the information with no regard for its overall truth with the intent to injure.
    As you can imagine, very difficult to prove, which is why ethics in journalism is so important.
    I am not sure if there is any difference when information is printed in a book as opposed to a newspaper or magazine, but I have to assume it is the same.

  403. Patrick May 3rd, 2009 at 1:50 pm

    “If she libels Alex, he has the right to sue her.”

    Haha right Pete. She can say anything she wants about him and there is next to no chance he could ever win such a case.

  404. td May 3rd, 2009 at 1:50 pm

    .A.–It’s a marathon, not a sprint. Calm down.
    May 3rd, 2009 at 1:19 pm
    While we wait, Heat vs Hawks Game 7 on ABC

    ****************************************
    Was watching B-ball game…and saw a scoreboard in the background at Atlanta Arena, which showed – yankees 1 angels 0 … I thought I missed the start of the game!….funny. Must have been from game 1 or 2 still?

  405. pc69 May 3rd, 2009 at 1:51 pm

    Watching Boston v Tampa.

    Man Big Papi has become about as threatening as Brett Gardner.

  406. Benny Blanco May 3rd, 2009 at 1:53 pm

    I want all of you to ask yourself this question.

    Did you ever dream about being famous? Who didnt?? I think we all have at some point.

    Waking up with millions in the bank and not a care in the world.

    Who wouldn’t want to get mobbed by millions of fans and sign autographs for one day?

    Anyone that says no is lying.

  407. SCRANTON May 3rd, 2009 at 1:53 pm

    Thanks John

  408. Brad May 3rd, 2009 at 1:54 pm

    Although we need Arod…we can’t forget that making a lot of money is the American dream. This SI reporter is going to do just that…and legally. So if Girardi still needs an answer as to why someone would do what she is doing…this might be one.

    Brad

  409. D-Train May 3rd, 2009 at 1:55 pm

    Tomorrow’s game is pretty much a lock to get rained out based on the forcast… rain straight through the entire day and night.

    So Hughes and Joba would both be skipped. You’d have to use them in long relief though to keep them fresh.

  410. Sean Serritella May 3rd, 2009 at 1:55 pm

    Scranton, thanks for that. That was really funny. I was thinking of using what you said on Red Sox fans.

  411. JR May 3rd, 2009 at 1:55 pm

    anyone watching YES? This Tino biography is giving me the chills.

  412. Ari May 3rd, 2009 at 1:55 pm

    Pete, I get where you’re coming from saying that Alex is a public figure and that people are therefore interested in his life. And if people are interested then obviously reporters are going to cover the story because it’s good copy. But I think that answer sidesteps the issue, which is one of journalistic ethics, or ethics more generally. Sure, Alex is a public figure, and will therefore draw media attention. But that doesn’t mean it is right (as in ethical) for the media to be airing every nasty detail of his life. I really think that this is one of the worst aspects of our society, that we treat the lives of people in the public eye as if we have some sort of right to know everything they do. It’s frankly disgusting. Arod should have a right to privacy just like all the rest of us. What he does on the field, and what he does off the field that relates to the game (steroids) are fair play. But the rest of it is simply an invasion of privacy that verges on the pornographic, and the reporters that indulge in these sorts of stories should simply be ashamed of themselves.

  413. GZA May 3rd, 2009 at 1:56 pm

    SCRANTON, you got a chuckle out of me. But every one of those epithets better describes Rod.

  414. Oh Really? May 3rd, 2009 at 1:56 pm

    “Man Big Papi has become about as threatening as Brett Gardner.”

    Or Mark Teixeira.

  415. derek May 3rd, 2009 at 1:56 pm

    Anyone on here @ the stadium now? Does it look like they’re going to play?

  416. john May 3rd, 2009 at 1:57 pm

    It would be impossible for A-Rod to prove libel in court.

    Selena has A-Rod right where she wants him. He is helpless. He can’t talk and he can’t stay quiet for fear of guilt by silence.

  417. pc69 May 3rd, 2009 at 1:57 pm

    Also, interesting, there has not been much made of Brad Penny and his lack luster performance. Still looks like he is hurt.

    Now if Penny were pitching in NY, blistered on a daily basis just for being a pudgy mid 80′s throwing shell of a pitcher. Ironic.

  418. Kevin at SHU May 3rd, 2009 at 1:57 pm

    “Without us, Pete’s blog is nothing. Pete has essentially shown that he is more concerned with quantity (views and posts) than quality. He would rather have 2,000 horrible posts than 500 great ones. You can’t blame him for that either. It’s his job.”

    ——————————————-

    That being said most of what Pete posts is great, informative stuff. I think Pete can still get the info out by cutting out all the dramatic statements and only use the dramatic statements once in awhile like when he does the mailbags or online video chats, but that is my opinion.

  419. pc69 May 3rd, 2009 at 1:58 pm

    Oh Really?
    May 3rd, 2009 at 1:56 pm
    “Man Big Papi has become about as threatening as Brett Gardner.”
    Or Mark Teixeira.

    Touche’

  420. S.A.--It's a marathon, not a sprint. Calm down. May 3rd, 2009 at 1:59 pm

    Not really raining right now in central jersey

  421. Steve May 3rd, 2009 at 2:00 pm

    Play the game or build a retractable roof. I’m getting sick of wimpy rain delays

  422. LathamJoe May 3rd, 2009 at 2:01 pm

    “Man Big Papi has become about as threatening as Brett Gardner.”

    Or Mark Teixeira.”
    - – - – - – - – - – - – - – - – - – - – - – - -
    Absolutely spot on! Tex runs like Papi, too! :)

  423. Kingman May 3rd, 2009 at 2:01 pm

    Why are ball players so soft these days?

    We can’t play through a little rain? We might break a nail if we lose our balance on the basepaths?

    Real baseball was pre 1900. Not this new age game that pampers these millionaires.

  424. Ro-Bin-Son (Jon R) May 3rd, 2009 at 2:04 pm

    Honestly I don’t see why journalists need to be so blindly partial, as far as I am concerned this “media monster” that Alex is was created by the media themselves. They create their own monsters in order to have something to slobber and obsess over. I don’t remember Alex being a prima donna in seattle, nor Texas. Once he got to New York he turned into the attention-grabber that he is. I understand that anyone who comes to New York gets the limelight shined on them. But you journalists somehow take the ‘it’s not my fault we’re covering him’ approach, it’s the media’s fault Arod is this ‘prima donna.’ Don’t complain about his omnipresent personality flaws when you are the ones that perpetuated it. Please someone correct me if I am wrong

  425. Iheardfrommycat May 3rd, 2009 at 2:04 pm

    that Pete’s anti-A-Rod agenda stems from an early incident between them. Pete asked Alex to sign his man-b00b, but A-Rod refused in disgust.

  426. GMAN May 3rd, 2009 at 2:04 pm

    Wow…when it rains…it pours (particularly the number of posts about Alex’s personal life and Selena’s book).

  427. Paul May 3rd, 2009 at 2:04 pm

    So can we talk about the game for a minute?

    The radar seems to indicate that it’s going to be raining for a long time in the Bronx. How long would they wait before they decide to call it? Would they start the game as late as 4:00? 8:00? Or are they not allowed to play at the same time as ESPN’s exclusive Sunday night game? Looks like a PPD for today :(

  428. Boston Dave May 3rd, 2009 at 2:05 pm

    “That being said most of what Pete posts is great, informative stuff. ”

    ——-

    I agree. It’s certainly one of the better beat reporter blogs out there.

    I have no problem with people challenging Pete’s opinions by any means. But people are threatening the guy and getting nasty.

    If people really hate the A-Rod talk, especially when Pete bashes him, don’t reward him with record #s of posts.

    It’s not hard to understand. If posts go up, the topic that caused it is going to find a way back to the blog until the posts stop.

  429. Don May 3rd, 2009 at 2:07 pm

    The book is trash, but regardless of that, A-Rod also comes off as jerk (judging from his behavior in the past years). It is not a good situation for the Yankees to have invested so much money in A-Rod. We, as fans, have to just live with it.

  430. LathamJoe May 3rd, 2009 at 2:08 pm

    Red Sox vs Rays on TBS right now.
    Score tied 1-1.

  431. Boston Dave May 3rd, 2009 at 2:08 pm

    “Leave the players personal lives at that. Selena Roberts and all the rest of the bottom feeder press, need to go away.”

    ——

    the thing about the book that I find amusing is this.

    MOST baseball players cheat on their wives and do all sorts of things that they don’t want in the press.

    MANY if not most baseball players used steroids or some banned substance.

    Alex is a Yankee and the highest paid player so he’s going to be the one who pays the price. It’s easier to hate one guy and blame him than accept the truth. The problem is certainly not about Alex Rodriguez.

  432. John May 3rd, 2009 at 2:10 pm

    Ari,

    I think that is very well put, especially when it comes to ball players. I have more of a stomach for such “invasive” books or articles when it comes to politicians and community leaders because, many times, those people are asked to make ethical decisions that affect our lives or our beliefs and if they fail to live up to those ideals you can make the arguement that such information could be important. But a ball player? Please. I don’t watch A-Rod because I think he is a good father, great husband, and a pilar of morality. I watch, well, because he is on the Yankees, and because he is talented. That’s it. The same with musicians or actors. I watch because they are entertaining. If they turn out to be good people with strong morals who help others, great. Makes you appreciate them a little more. If they don’t, who the heck cares.
    If A-Rod is taking steroids or tipping pitches, such actions directly effect his performance on the field and is absolutely fair game. But if he is cheating on his wife with some stripper, so what? That’s on him. He chooses to live his life like that, so be it. It doesn’t excuse the action at all, but how is it important information for public consumption?
    I honestly can’t imagine who is going to buy this book to read about A-Rod tipping at Hooters. I mean, can you imagine a more tedious thing than reading about a spoiled, rich athlete who isn’t the nicest guy? Where is his interesting story? The kid who just got drafted in the NFL, the kid who was homeless, had no family, and was adopted by a local family who took him in out of the goodness of their heart? That’s a story. This? What’s the difference between Selena Roberts and TMZ, as someone else on here pointed out?
    I am not an A-Rod supported at all. Wish he was off the team to be honest with you so we could all go back to rooting for the YANKEES, but whether he is warm and fuzzy or not doesn’t mean people have the right to just attack and lambast every aspect of his life and put it out there for public consumption.
    In the end, everyone, from Pete to anyone else, has to ask themselves, what excuse could Selena Roberts offer as to why much of the information about A-Rod’s personal life is important for public consumption? Simply because someone CAN do something doesn’t mean they should.

  433. Clint May 3rd, 2009 at 2:10 pm

    Yahoo Box says the game has been ppd. Is that confirmed?

  434. Stephen May 3rd, 2009 at 2:10 pm

    A “blood sucker”?

    The comments section has really gone off the rails lately.

  435. Boston Dave May 3rd, 2009 at 2:11 pm

    mlb.com also says postponed

  436. Betsy May 3rd, 2009 at 2:11 pm

    Game rained out per RAB

  437. Kevin at SHU May 3rd, 2009 at 2:11 pm

    Boston Dave I agree with what you said. The people who are complaining are those who feel like they should reply to every issue that pops up if you ask me. If you don’t like the particular topic being discussed don’t reply to it at all. In fact I follow the school of thought of “Read More, Post Less” and find that school of thought normally keeps you out of stupid battles.

  438. Ben May 3rd, 2009 at 2:11 pm

    Today’s game has been cancelled

  439. Judge Mills Lane May 3rd, 2009 at 2:11 pm

    Pete — Even though I don’t always agree with you, I love your blog and your dedication.

    But, please, please, please for the love of God, stop reading the comments!

    Even if it is *your* blog, the comments are the toilet walls of the internet. Between the insults, assaults, conspiracy theories, back-biting, and overall negativity, it’s not a place to be!

    I’m only here because I noticed you hadn’t updated the blog, and figured you were in the middle of a flame war (I was right).

    If people don’t like your POV, let them leave. If people cannot be civil, let them leave. If people don’t understand that a blog is OPINION, let them leave.

    But arguing your case with them won’t work.

    I respect you too much to let you get sucked into this.

    Stay away from the comments!!!

  440. Doreen May 3rd, 2009 at 2:12 pm

    Girardi’s statements didn’t sound like a tirade at all. Quite opposite. Not even a rant. Because each individual statement was preceded by a question that he answered. He did not go on a 7 paragraph rant in response to one single question. So, one needs to listen to the statements themselves and not just rely on the written answers Pete also provided.

    The statement about faith was just an example of “we’re all different” off the field and not everyone is going to agree with or like what someone else does. That’s how I took it. I don’t think he was bringing religion into the conversation.

    But, whatever.

    The Mets are already rained out in Philly. I guess the Yankees are going to wait as long as they can because when else can they make up this game?

    And yes, I think where steroids and breaking baseball rules are concerned, that’s something that is “of interest,” but the personal stuff, no, not at all.

    Game rained out just announced on YES.

  441. BoogieDown May 3rd, 2009 at 2:12 pm

    The game is called as per Yankees.com.

  442. Betsy May 3rd, 2009 at 2:12 pm

    Too bad for Phil, but I’m glad they didn’t try playing in these conditions. Tomorrow’s game against the Sox looks in doubt too – Joba will be skipped. Phil in the pen on Tuesday(if possible) for an inning or two of work before his next start – that’s what I would do

  443. chris May 3rd, 2009 at 2:15 pm

    John wrote-
    “Pete,

    How do you feel about unamed sources, especially in this context? As a journalist, would you feel comfortable printing accusations made by individuals who would not put their name to their quotes?”

    He wont answer that question John. I already emailed him asking the same thing. He is doging it just like Selena Roberts is dodging any radio station outside of those affiliated with SI, because she know that any other show would take her to take on not having any named sources.

  444. Dave in DC May 3rd, 2009 at 2:15 pm

    I trust Hughes more than AJ

    Skip AJ and keep Hughes on 7 days rest against Boston on Tuesday.

  445. GMAN May 3rd, 2009 at 2:15 pm

    George Steinbrenner was a smart man…he knew if he was loud and proud…he would be the story…and the media herd would follow him to the ends of the earth…thereby letting the players live there lives and focus on the field.

    Without George as the ultimate distraction…the jackals are feeding on the personal lives of the players and the righteousness of the moral contemplations of team’s manager.

    George was far smarter than the collective NY sports media.

    The only answer is for Mark Cuban to buy the Yankees…he would rule the NY media for the next 35 years

  446. Buddy Biancalana May 3rd, 2009 at 2:16 pm

    Game is postponed.

  447. Betsy May 3rd, 2009 at 2:17 pm

    Is this April Fool’s, Dave? I love Phil, but seriously…

  448. Bernadette May 3rd, 2009 at 2:17 pm

    “…I’m also not sure why Girardi brought up religion. As far as I know, nobody has ever mentioned his religion or anybody else’s in relation to the Yankees…”

    Pete, the guy was just being emotional. You said so yourself. Not everything someone says needs to be journalistically dissected.

  449. Russell NY May 3rd, 2009 at 2:18 pm

    On Tuesday lets do Joba for 5, Hughes for 4 :)

  450. Mark D May 3rd, 2009 at 2:19 pm

    Ughh!?
    Why is this a story?
    Looks like someone needs something to write about due to the rainout.

  451. Boston Dave May 3rd, 2009 at 2:21 pm

    “Is this April Fool’s, Dave? I love Phil, but seriously…”

    ——–

    let’s see a few more starts from Phil before AJ is relegated to spot starter status.

  452. Boston Dave May 3rd, 2009 at 2:22 pm

    “is AROD a good person? ”

    ——–

    Starks, of the people who have met him and reported about it, they all seem to say he is a good person.

    SJ44 has spoken about it. Now, they may question some of his personality traits, but I haven’t heard many say he is a bad person.

  453. Fan Interference May 3rd, 2009 at 2:24 pm

    Selena Roberts is entitled to write her book, because we have freedom of speech in this country. As long as her sources are legit, there’s nothing Arod can do about it. But I have to say, she’s going at this from a personal angle, looking to inflict the most damage to this man. Even after factoring in book sales, this book appears to be spiteful, and vindictive. I think there’s more to the background of this book story than we’ve been hearing. IMO someone wants to take Arod down hard, and has so far succeeded in doing so.

  454. PeteRFNY May 3rd, 2009 at 2:30 pm

    I think Selena Roberrts’ journalistic integrity speaks for itself. If and when Arod decides to deal with this bull he should do so wearing a Duke Lacrosse uniform. That alone would speak volumes.

    Giradri is upset because he is a decent human being and sometimes the jaded out there can’t understand why a decent human being would get upset when he sees someone who is obviously out there trying to ruin other people.

    Writing about someone in the public eye is one thing: having an obvious agenda and printing TMZ-like garbage makes you no better than a dime-store gossip columnist. If Roberts was really trying to be a serious journalist here, shoe wouldn’t have held back tidbits of information back in February. That’s what sesnasionalist hacks do.

    Personally, I shant be watching Roberts-Costas II on MLB tonight. I have no desire to sit here and watch Costas throw another batch of softballs at Roberts while she sits there with that indignant look on her puss like the last meeting of these great minds.

    Quite honestly, no one REALLY gives a fig about the steroids issue other than the fedora-wearin’, cigar-chompin’ members os the eliste sports media (and people trying to make a fast buck like Roberts, Canseco, et al). These are the same types that will sit here wringing their hands about the useless Mitchell Report but pretend that things like alcoholism, drug abuse, racism and gambling were just mere specks on the virginal white canvas that is the Great Game of Baseball.

    The crux of baseball’s appeal is that it’s screwed up just like the rest of us. Everyone from the people that run the game to the players that play the game are inperfect, and that’s fine with me because NOTHING is perfect. That’s why I laugh when reporters, authors and politicians try to act like they ARE perfect and anyone in the game that makes a mistake somehow “deserves” to be knocked down.

    Maybe if more people looked in the mirror to do something other than just checking to see if they still have food in their teeth, more people would be upset the way Joe Giradri was this morning and less people would be upset the way all the perfect folks seem to be.

  455. Eric M. May 3rd, 2009 at 2:35 pm

    Pete,

    Girardi defending his player is going to drag the story out? No my friend…. you and the rest of the media are going to drag the story out. It’s easy for you to do.

    If Girardi said “No comment” or just ended it at “we’re going to move on” there would be stories about how he doesn’t defend his players the same way stories were written about Jeter not sticking up for Arod.

    You are dragging this out… at least be honest about it.

    And if this Roberts lady were a legitimate investigative journalist… where’s the extra effort to find the other 103 names? It’s ALL ABOUT MONEY for her. Why can’t anyone be honest about that.

  456. marcus May 3rd, 2009 at 2:53 pm

    The fact is A-Rod is a pain and he is going to here NINE more years. I think Yankees fans feel put uopn becuase it ia their (our) team that is getting all the scrutiny and not any other team. particulary the Red Sox.

  457. Drew May 3rd, 2009 at 2:55 pm

    Just because you can do something doesn’t mean that it’s right. So what if Selena Roberts is a reporter and is legally protected from writing lurid details about someone else’s private life? So what if A-Rod is a “public figure”? You should still measure other people by their behavior, legal or not. And dragging someone’s name through the mud for nothing more than profit is really not that commendable. Mind you, this applies to most of that tabloid trash style of writing. Is it legal? Sure, if it’s true. (And even sometimes when a public figure is involved when it’s not!) Does that protect the purveyor of that information from any kind of criticism? No way.

    It’s like arguing to a woman’s husband that you cheated on his wife and, hey, “If you don’t like that, don’t get married.” Or in Pete’s words, “It’s not that complicated!” Neither thing is illegal. It’s a consequence of your own actions of getting married or being a public figure. And it’s not a nice thing to do. Can we all at least agree on that?

  458. NongEyeJon May 3rd, 2009 at 3:13 pm

    Yeah, I don’t really see how Girardi’s comment should serve to continue the story. Pete and the media WANT the story to continue and they control that. He brought up religion as a means of saying that people might not agree with his faith, but it does not mean it’s meant for public discourse and/or skewering, which is why his religion is not an issue. But Pete, please, don’t try to sell us on Girardi adding more fuel to the fire. What he’s done is defend his player, a player who is no doubt a moron, but one that is simply the only target right now. He has put himself into countless stupid situations, but at this point, it is simply you (Pete) and the media that feeds on this. All of us here want to watch our team win and talk baseball, not his personal life. If we wanted that, we’d go to the the superficial or tmz.

  459. Yikes! May 3rd, 2009 at 3:19 pm

    This is the first time I’ve been disappointed in the blog. It’s awfully hypocritical to say Girardi’s defense of A-rod only furthers the story when it’s plainly obvious that if he said nothing, the media (including yourself, Pete) would’ve ran buck wild with columns about how Girardi can’t stand A-rod because he couldn’t even see fit to stick up for him. His silence would’ve pushed the story along much further than his comments today did, and perhaps you’re a bit disappointed that didn’t happen?

  460. Yikes! May 3rd, 2009 at 3:28 pm

    And one other thing, Pete: remember when Judith Miller was supposedly the modern-day Joseph Pulitzer when it came to reporting on the Iraq War? We all know how that turned out.

    There’s a reason why Selena Roberts is a investigative SPORTS journalist, as opposed to a HARD-NEWS investigative reporter. I’d hedge my bets on taking her word on things, regardless of whether she’s a colleague or not.

  461. Keith May 3rd, 2009 at 3:40 pm

    Embarssing how tonight MLB Network is going to be giving Roberts what amounts to be an infomercial for her book. MLB continues to be victims of self-inflicted wounds. How many other leagues would allow their network to promote a tome full of hearsay and rumors about one of its biggest stars? None! That’s how many.

    Pete – how come in all of your passionate defenses of Roberts, you never reference the many posts that question her credibility due to the Duke lacrosse case?

  462. Richie May 3rd, 2009 at 3:54 pm

    Pete said: “I’m also not sure why Girardi brought up religion. As far as I know, nobody has ever mentioned his religion or anybody else’s in relation to the Yankees.”
    _______

    Actually Girardi faith was raised as issue in the fight with Seattle years ago (the same one in which Derek and Alex kind of joked around and Chad Curtis took issue with it).

    Girardi basically got punched and refused to fight back because of his religion, and it was brought up afterward.

  463. Mr. Faded Glory May 3rd, 2009 at 4:11 pm

    Pete, there’s a part of the interview where you ask Girardi (I’m pretty sure it’s you, if it’s not I apologize) about Alex. Girardi is complaining about someone’s personal life being made into a book and scrutinized, and you say that he’s admitted to steroids, “doesn’t that open him up to this sort of scrutiny?” Alex admitted to steroids after the book was written and leaked information came out. So how could admitting to something in a book then open someone up for that book to be written? It’s circular logic.

  464. Harley May 3rd, 2009 at 4:29 pm

    Pete,

    Here’s the problem. You make it clear that Selena Roberts has the constitutional right to write whatever she chooses, so long as she’s not libeling anyone. Fair enough. Unfortunately, she also enjoys the right to Never Be Criticized By a Fellow Reporter — a group that includes you, of course — and this leaves your readers with only half the story. Or, if nothing else, to write that half of the story ourselves.

    Her atrocious reporting on the Duke Lacrosse team is a matter of record. Her arrogant refusal to address her own errors in that regard? Also a matter of record. The Yankees Republic blog ran a nice piece covering her past writing on A-Rod, writing that shows an astonishing and frequently dishonest bias. Now you can ignore this in the name of occupational solidarity.

    But understand it makes your comments on this something less than reliable.

  465. Vince May 3rd, 2009 at 4:54 pm

    Boston loses 5-3.

  466. Eric May 3rd, 2009 at 5:33 pm

    I think the problem I have with your characterization Pete is that you say the book is about steroids. Let’s be honest…at least from what Roberts herself has told the media, the book is 10% about steroids and 90% about Alex’s ego. I mean just look at the title. I think it is a little inaccurate to say that this is a book she wrote to expose Alex for using steroids. That is part of the book…just like in Joe Torre’s book he ripped on Arod. But just like Joe Torre’s book was 90% about other subjects…this book too will be 90% about other subjects. The problem is that Roberts’ other subjects are Alex’s personal life. They read like tabloid stories. It’s this 90% of the book that people primarily have a problem with…not the questions about steroid use.

  467. bob May 3rd, 2009 at 5:55 pm

    “However well-intentioned Girardi may have been today, his comments will only serve to continue the story.”

    …because reporters will hype them as if they’re a big deal.

  468. Ziny May 3rd, 2009 at 6:19 pm

    Peter, so what you’re saying is that we all have to be locked up in a room and nver come out so that people don’t talk about you and don’t write about? Are you being stupid? Eeven people you are not part of the entertainment business or works for government are being written on without their consent.

    And I agree with Girardi NO ONE is perfect. We are all bound to make mistakes in life.

    Everyone craves attention.. look ate you for example, you’re not good looking, but you write incredibly well and you know your stuff. You have people who are following you in a way. Heck, maybe you a stalker, you never know! But digging deep into someone’s personal life and write all the negatives to get money for your benefit… that is something that’s unforgivable. We all know Alex is not a smart cookie, and that perhaps all the things he has done are connected to the fact that his father abandoned him, but that is none of our business. NONE.

    I just hope everyone turns the page and leave at that. I love baseball and frankly, I’m tired of people talking about this God damned book that has some shady sources (who apparently are Selena Roberts’ voices in her head (until proven differently)) and written by someone who has earned a living from destroying peoples lives.

    I don’t know about you, but I think Roberts is smart. She blabbers Alex’s steroid usage, he admits it. Now she can say whatever she wants in her stupid book, act all gooddy goody and say her sources don’t want to be revealed, and everyone is going to believe everything she writes in that book or in any other book she may write about anyone. She can say a very good source told her that Alex’s real father is Elvis and everyone would be believe it.

    that’s all I’m going to say about that.

    God bless Girardi!

  469. Pat2 May 3rd, 2009 at 8:24 pm

    Peter,

    I don’t understand how you can call Selena Roberts a serious journalist? Wasn’t she fired from the New York Times for her biased reporting on the Duke Lacrosse players? She continued going after those guys long after it was proven they were innocent.

    As far as the A-Rod book is concerned you really believe that the following statements from her book, which have been all over the airwaves, are informative:

    Anonymous Texas teammates thought A-Rod was tipping pitches;
    Anonymous Yankee teammates saw A-Rod and Kevin Brown with HGH;and
    Anonymous sources from high school said they thought he was taking steroids back then.

    Don’t you think this stuff belongs in the National Enquirer?

  470. inchcape May 4th, 2009 at 6:33 am

    Pete,

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