Game 25: Red Sox at Yankees (With A-Rod rehab update news and Girardi audio)
Posted by: Peter Abraham - Posted in Misc, Podcast on May 04, 2009 
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YANKEES (13-11)
Jeter SS
Damon LF
Teixeira 1B
Swisher RF
Cano 2B
Posada DH
Cabrera CF
Molina C
Berroa 3B
Pitching: RHP Phil Hughes (1-0, 0.00).
RED SOX (15-10)
Ellsbury CF
Pedroia 2B
Ortiz DH
Youkilis 1B
Drew RF
Bay LF
Lowell 3B
Varitek C
Green SS
Pitching: LHP Jon Lester (1-2, 5.40).
TIME/TV: 7:05, YES, ESPN
Since nothing as changed since yesterday … here are the same notes:
HUGHES PART TWO: Phil Hughes returned to the team in Detroit on Tuesday and threw six scoreless innings. This will be his second start.
NO LEAD SAFE: The Yankees have had at least a one-run lead in seven of their 11 losses.
LEADING THE LEAGUE: The Yankees’ 5.93 ERA is the worst in baseball.
OFF THE MARK: Mark Teixeira is 2 for 27 (.074) in his last eight games. He has not driven in a run since April 24. His batting average has gone from a bad .240 to an atrocious .182. Teixeira said his sore right wrist has improved enough in the last week to allow him to start again working in the cage before games and he is hopeful his production will increase. His eye remains sharp as he has 11 walks during his slump. But he is 0 for his last 13 with RISP.
JOSE CAN YOU GET AN OUT: The last four games for Jose Veras: 2.2 innings, 5 hits, 5 runs, 4 walks, 1 strikeout.
THE KEY: The Yankees are 11-3 when they don’t make an error, 2-8 when they do.
HIT-DEKI: Hideki Matsui has hit in 12 straight at 17 of 46 (.370) with six extra-base hits and nine RBI.
MELKY’S THE MAN: Melky Cabrera has hit in seven straight at 10 of 27.
HOME COOKING: The Yankees are 6-3 at the new Stadium.
Back with much more later.
UPDATE, 4:05 p.m.: Alex Rodriguez was 1 for 6 with a homer and a walk in an extended spring training game today. He played seven innings in the field but did not have to make any plays.
He’s scheduled for the same tomorrow. It sounds like he will rejoin the team on Friday.
UPDATE, 5:46 p.m.: Well, it’s drizzling at the moment. The tarp is down and some of the players are on the field playing catch or warming up.
I’ve been told two things: They’re going to try to play and that there’s a lot of rain on the way. Wish I had more than that.
UPDATE, 5:57 p.m.: Here’s Joe Girardi’s pre-game interview session. He talked about A-Rod’s rehab, the bullpen, Mark Teixeira and other matters.
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UPDATE, 6:20 p.m.: If they do play this game, it sure won’t start on time. Raining here, tarp down. That’s it for now.
UPDATE, 6:52 p.m.: Some news out of Nebraska via the AP
The mother of New York Yankees pitcher Joba Chamberlain is jailed in Nebraska and facing a felony charge after being arrested on suspicion of selling methamphetamine to an undercover police officer in February.
Lincoln Police Capt. David Beggs said Monday that 44-year-old Jacqueline Standley was arrested at her apartment Saturday night.
Beggs said she allegedly sold 1 gram of a substance believed to be meth to an uncover officer for $110 on Feb. 11. The substance tested positive for meth in testing at the state laboratory.
She was charged Monday with delivery of an exceptionally hazardous drug. Her bail was set at $5,000, and she was assigned a public defender, whose name was not on her jail record.
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It’s truly amazing, it really is, that Joba is pitching in the big leagues given his family situation and everything that has happened to him.
UPDATE, 7:12 p.m.: Obviously the game is being delayed by rain. No word from the Yankees on when (or if) it will be played tonight.
UPDATE, 7:48 p.m.: The grounds crew is mulling around the field. But the tarp remains on and it’s still raining.
The scoreboard camera is panning the crowd and some guy just flipped it off.
UPDATE, 8:19 p.m.: Still raining, tarp still down, grounds crew no longer mulling around. At this point, it would take at least 45 minutes to get the field ready. So the game is not starting any time soon, if at all.
UPDATE, 8:48 p.m.: They’re starting to pull the tarp. Get a Red Bull, its going to be a long night.
UPDATE, 8:51 p.m.: First pitch at 9:20.
UPDATE, 9:10 p.m.: Paul Olden, the PA announcer, just asked the crowd to stand and put their hands over their hearts. Then he read the lineups. Meanwhile, assorted dopes are still standing up with their hands over their hearts.
Meanwhile, it’s raining again. But they’re pushing on as the players warm up.
UPDATE, 9:30 p.m.: The first pitch was at 9:22 p.m. Fantastic job by the grounds crew getting the field ready so fast. They were literally running from place to place.
Meanwhile, Hughes in some trouble already as Boston leads 1-0.
UPDATE, 9:36 p.m.: Good job by Hughes limiting the damage. He got squeezed by Jerry Meals when he walked Drew.
UPDATE, 9:39 p.m.: The scorer, Bill Shannon, just changed the wild pitch in the first inning to a passed ball. That was the right call as it never hit the dirt.
Meanwhile, Angel Berroa didn’t acknowledge the Bleacher Creature Roll Call until Jeter told him to. Either he didn’t understand it or couldn’t hear it.
UPDATE, 9:43 p.m.: Tex strikes out and hears the boos. Safe to say Lester is off to a good start.
UPDATE, 10:00 p.m.: The scoreboard here needs work. The gigantic mug shots of the player at the plate are a little much. And they should break down the pitch count by balls and strikes likes every other park in the majors.
Balls and strikes should be on the main board, too. Not off to the side. The linescore also should have LOB. Again, just like every other park in the majors.
UPDATE, 10:38 p.m.: Wow, Tex is 2 for his last 29. You could find people in the stands who could do that. He really heard it from the crowd in the last inning.
Meanwhile, Ben from RAB e-mailed to point out that the scoreboard also doesn’t announce scoring decisions like wild pitch or passed ball, etc. A very good point.
Hughes at 84 pitches in the 4th inning and has allowed four runs. We’re going to see Alfredo Aceves pretty soon.
UPDATE, 10:54 p.m.: I think we’ve seen the last of Hughes tonight as Aceves warms up. Phil’s line is not a good one: 4 innings, 7 hits, 4 runs, 3 earned, 4 walks, 2 strikeouts.
Meanwhile, Girardi was jawing with Boston first base coach Tim Bogar in the top of the inning. Not sure what that is all about. Maybe Bogar is a fan of the First Amendment.
UPDATE, 10:58 p.m.: I give the fans who are still here a lot of credit. It’s cold and it’s been misting all game.
UPDATE, 11:12 p.m.: Lester working on a two-hit shutout as the Yankees bat in the fifth inning. He has seven strikeouts. … Meanwhile the crowd has thinned out big time in the last 30 minutes.
UPDATE, 11:13 p.m.: Jose Molina singles. Now Berroa gets to strike out again.
UPDATE, 11:14 p.m.: Or nearly ground into a DP. Good thing he’s in there for his bat.
UPDATE, 11:18 p.m.: Joe Girardi just got tossed for arguing balls and strikes with Jerry Meals. Tell you what, he’s got a point. Meals squeezed Hughes and Lester has had the Major Deegan Expressway all night.
Meanwhile, no doubt inspired by his fiery manager, Damon just homered. 4-2 Red Sox.
UPDATE, 11:19 p.m.: Girardi should get tossed more often. Tex goes yard to left and it’s 4-3.
Your turn, Swish.
UPDATE, 11:21 p.m.: The crowd has come to life here. At least those hardy souls left.
I’m a little surprised Jeter didn’t tossed as he argued balls and strikes for a while.
UPDATE, 11:23 p.m.: Swish K’s on a good pitch. But we have a new game.
UPDATE, 11:34 p.m.: Nice play by Berroa. He and Tony Lazzeri used to work on that.
UPDATE, 12:10 a.m.: The absolute right move is to walk Ortiz and pitch to Jeff Bailey. But intentional walks never seem to work out for Joe Girardi.
UPDATE, 12:13 p.m.: Well, it was perfect that time. … Tex, Swish and Cano next up. This could be their last shot.
UPDATE, 12:15 a.m.: Nice job by Lester. 7 innings, 6 hits, 3 runs, 2 walks, 10 K’s. Made two bad pitches all night.
UPDATE, 12:16 a.m.: Tex does it again. 6-4. Yankees alive and kicking. Why do I have the feeling that a 9:22 start is bound to go extra innings?
UPDATE, 12:20 p.m.: Why are they pinch hitting Matsui for Posada? Why not save Matsui for Berroa or Molina?I don’t get it. Unless Posada is hurt. Here comes Papelbon, Francona isn’t screwing around.
UPDATE, 12:23 p.m.: Posada seems to have some sort of leg injury. Not what they need. Maybe his hamstring is acting up. Given that’s freezing here, that would hardly be a surprise.
At least all the whining about the team not having a long man can end now. Granted if Aceves gets knocked around, the next genius drumbeat will be that Brett Tomko and his 0.75 ERA are just what this bullpen is missing…yikes.
Kay is right— yesterday’s comments make Girardi look like an idiot and like he doesn’t live in the real world.
He doesn’t understand why she wrote a book? To make money, Joe. Same reason you negotiated with the Dodgers and the Yankees at the same time, to get more money from the Yankees. Nothing wrong with that, we all do it.
He is worried about the kids? Clearly, A-Rod himself isin’t worried about the kids or else he wouldn’t lead this type of life (cheating on his wife for Madonna, strippers in Toronto etc.)
Then he talks about how he doesn’t think any books should be written on public figures. ALL celebrities, athletes, politicians, etc. are subject to this. This is not only A-Rod. If you are a public figure, you are aware that people are watching you everywhere, so you can’t make boneheaded decisions. Such is the price of being rich and famous.
Kay is spot on, Girardi is smarter than that, but his rant makes him look uninformed. He was sticking up for his player, that’s fine, but he could have gone about it much differently.
Please, no rainout tonight, Yesterday was enough
Back to Aceves, since it’s hard to comment on the Yankees position players for tonight!
THRILLED he’s here.
As I said in the previous thread, I was asking to have a long reliever before the Yankees even broke camp this spring. (Asking in the sense that I opined that they definitely needed to have long relief.) I don’t care why they didn’t or why they did now, only that we finally have someone.
YES!!!!!
Idiot saying that that steal of home wouldn’t have happened under Torre. Sleepy Joe would have caught that? Um didn’t Jorge warn Andy about he possibility of the steal? ANd didn’t AAron hill steal home off of Andy when Joe T was here?
a long man, thank you. not a difficult concept. it’s not going to be season changing, but that’s the nature of long men. you need one so that you’re bullpen doesn’t get burnt. steven jackson and anthony calgett were never going to pitch in any kind of spot anyway. smart move.
So glad to hear a) Swisher is back, and b) we have a long man.
Now, just hope the rain holds off for just long enough…not sure I can handle two rain outs in a row.
Ah Matthew, someone else who apparently didn’t take the time to listen to Girardi’s interview with the “press”, or has a totally different definition of “rant” from the rest of society.
Girardi told the truth about how he feels. He didn’t offer it unilaterally by the way. He was asked several questions by reporters who weren’t apparently satisfied with his answer that he didn’t think “that kind of book” was necessary, you know, delving into peoples’ personal lives.
In the name of fairness I will assume you didn’t bother listening to Girardi and just went based on what you read from the pundits.
And gee, Kay used the word “idiot” to describe Girardi? For some reason I don’t believe you Matthew.
time to send veras away and bring up someone for the bench. this is ridiculous how long they are letting this go on. Veras sucks. it wont change, homerun homerun, walk, walk, walk, walk. Thats what he is.
I pray they can get this game in somehow
Dude, Trisha, IIRC kay once called someone a nazi for calling him out on the no hitter jinx thing.
It’s certainly not past him to call Girardi an idiot.
Aunt B,
Care to give us a local weather report? You’re pretty close to the ballpark, right?
Speaking about the steal of home. When was the last time a Right handed pitcher allowed a steal of home?
Re: Aceves = Long man.
Those who were up in arms about having a long man at the beginning of the year, check out Aceves’s AAA numbers – it took him a few starts to get back into game shape. If he had started the year in the majors, he would probably have gotten knocked around, REALLY hard.
I’m glad we have a long man. But I don’t want a long man who absolutely reeks. Sometimes, maybe, just maybe, Cashman knows what he’s doing.
Since Girardi is a good friend of Kay, I wouldn’t expect to hear him call Girardi an idiot.
If he did I’m sure someone will report back and say so.
Thanks, Dude, Rebecca!
Kay did come down on pretty hard on Girardi today… but he prefaced his comments by saying Joe is one of his best friends and he feels badly about criticizing him but he had to.
S.A. Have you seen the Hunt for Gollum?
I’m more of an elf/man person myself. Hobbits just eat too much.
Kay said the comments “make him sound like an idiot, when he really isin’t. he is much smarter than that.” or something to that effect.
He didn’t call him an idiot, he said his comments made him sound like one. It wasn’t an insult.
Nice!
The senior citizen is in the lineup!
Wow – Swish is in and at RF…I thought they’d start him at DH
I feel so bad for Girardi having to face that press every night. Last I looked it was my right to feel bad for him. Imagine having to answer questions from people who have just trashed you. Too bad he can’t go silent on them, but he can’t. They have him over a barrel and he knows it. Grand to see the press make Girardi squeal. After all, they know SO much about managing baseball…
Damon is on with Francess and Sweeney
Zach:
Missed your post for a second.
I’ve been inside all day but it’s been dark enough for me to have the lights on since about noon, which generally means rain.
Radar doesn’t look as bad as yesterday. It kinda looks like the State of Maryland, the rain shower, with a chesepeak bay-like gap, and the way the rain is moving, we might slide into the gap at the right time to get the game started.
Still, I can’t imagine them playing the whole game without a delay of some sort.
New Stadium Insider thinks they might start around 9.30 and just wait the whole thing out.
Having a long man in the pen is like so overrated.
Maybe if Sabathia, Burnett, Pettitte and Wang pitch to their capabilities then the Yankees wouldn’t need a long man. I’m pretty sure that’s what the thought process was before the season started.
Who was the last Yankee starter to pitch seven innings of 3 runs or less? How many quality starts have the Yankees had in their first 21 games?
Nobody could have predicted that at this point the Yankees would have the WORST starting rotation in the league. If these guys pitch as well as they can the ‘long man’ is going to rot on the bench anyway.
Give me 4/5 good starters any day over a long man.
Molina is 4-8 with 2 walks against Lester
Just play Pena even against the tough lefty. Berroa might run into a hit against Lester but he is sooo bad defensively, I feel like it’s a disservice to Hughes that he’s got a stone-handed statue at 3rd tonight. Oh well, a few more days until Mr. Popular is back at least.
NO matsui?
i hope thats because of the rain, and not Joe G’s knack for sitting the hot hitter.
Damon says his 3 hrs didn’t need help- would have gone out anywhere
sometimes in BP they carry far
thinks only during day games is it a factor
FWIW
Wow still no call?! I have been checking Accuweather all day there is 0 chance this game is played.
Sweeney looks so intersted in every word Damon says…he’s staring at the phone!
I think Aceves could be used in more ways than a traditional long reliever. He could come in after the starter gets blown up and pitch 4-5 innings but he could also get through the middle innings if a starter only gets through 5-6 innings. I trust Aceves over our other middle relievers.
S.A. Have you seen the Hunt for Gollum?
I’m more of an elf/man person myself. Hobbits just eat too much.
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Just now I had to google Hunt for Gollum. Just watched the little trailer for it. As a fan film, looks pretty good!
“Having a long man in the pen is like so overrated.”
Agreed. But that makes Aceves the right man for the job IMO.
ray, while I hear what you’re saying, the Yankees have had such difficulty with starters over the last many seasons that I just think of it as prudent to have a long man. He can also be there for middle or short relief.
JMO
I agree with the overrated nature of the long man.
It seems they are just trying to find a combination that works. Their starters haven’t pitched well and the bullpen has been positively awful.
When that happens, you just play, “mix and match” and hope to find somebody…..anybody that can get outs. Aceves is just the next guy on the tryout chart.
Once again, the Yankees are in the same place, trying to find competent and consistent pitching, as they have been the past 5-6 years.
Who could have imagined that in spring training?
Matsui is, I imagine, sitting so we can have Posada’s switch-hitting bat and catch Molina, who’s got some pretty solid numbers with against lester.
Al: The radar’s actually showing a window. It’s possible.
Forgive me if someone has already posted this, but this column by Steve Goldman today is an absolute must read. By you too Pete.
http://pinstripedbible.mlblogs.com/
Quality starts:
CC – 7.2 IP, 0 ER vs. KC
AJ – 8 IP, 2 ER vs. TB
AJ – 6.1 IP, 3 ER vs. CLE (technically, but he was far from dominant)
Andy – 7 IP, 1 ER vs. KC
Andy – 7.1 IP, 3 ER vs. TB
Andy – 7 IP, 2 ER vs. OAK
Joba – 6 IP, 1 ER vs. KC
Joba – 7 IP, 1 ER vs. DET
Hughes – 6 IP, 0 ER vs. DET
25 games, 9 quality starts… so about one out of every 3 games.
“Once again, the Yankees are in the same place, trying to find competent and consistent pitching, as they have been the past 5-6 years.
Who could have imagined that in spring training?”
SJ, that’s the very reason that I think a long man is a good thing to have. The popular saying is that you can never have enough pitching. Despite the reputation of our starting rotation, I was still convinced that it was better to err on the side of caution and have long relief. If it even helps you for the times that your starter gets unexpectedly blown out, it’s worth it. With starters going short innings and injuries, all the better to have the person in place.
JMO
BERROA?!?!! WHYYYYYYYYYYYY??????
I haven’t looked at the stats, but there’s no way the Sox have more quality starts than that.
ray – but that’s exactly it. the starters have not done their job. if they had, we wouldn’t need a long man. since they haven’t we need a long man, and it shouldn’t have taken 1/6th of the season to get one up here. especially because if the options are a long man rotting on the bench or someone like claggett or jackson rotting on the bench, why not have the long man just for insurance? it’s not mutually exclusive. you can have 4/5 good starters and a long man for when they get lit up early (which happens to every rotation). it’s just a prudent thing to do, which is why most teams carry one.
I was shocked to see Berroa in the line-up as well. There must be a great reason and that’s why Girardi is the manager.
END OF STORY!!!
“BERROA?!?!! WHYYYYYYYYYYYY??????”
More power with Matsui out.
I stand corrected. The Sox have 11. I’m shocked.
“it’s just a prudent thing to do, which is why most teams carry one.”
Absolutely agree.
I dont think Aceves’ promotion was so much about being the long man as it was bringing in the best arm available. I’d bet we’ll see him in the 7th inning in a lot of games.
Also, this notion that the Yanks starting rotation is the worst in baseball is way overblown. Look at the Yankees starters, minus Wang, and compare it to any number of teams.
Take Boston for example.Josh Beckett has a 9.14 ERA since Opening Day, John Lester is sporting a 5.40 ERA,Brad Penny’s ERA is 7.61, Masterson has never pitched into the 7th inning and gave up 6 runs in his last 6 innings.The difference between Boston and New york’s pitching staff lies in the bullpen. Theirs has been reliable, the Yanks terrible.
Let’s give Jose Veras a break. He’s obviously just working on his ‘pitching w/RISP’. I applaud him for his foresight.
The long man itself is not the issue, it’s how it affects the roster that counts.
If having a long man meant that the Yanks felt comfortable with 12 pitchers instead of 13, then having a long man makes a lot of sense.
If the Yanks have made their mind up they must have 13 pitchers for some reason that mystifies me, then go with the 8 best relievers, long or short.
Trisha,
Traditionally, the longman is the worst guy on the pitching staff. He really isn’t a weapon.
Usually, if teams need one, its because the pitching is very, very bad.
“Very, very bad” meaning, a not playoff worthy pitching staff.
The Yankees haven’t lost a game this year because of their lack of a longman. They have lost games because of their awful bullpen and inconsistent starting pitching.
Aceves is just another guy they are hoping can get outs. If he can, he will be more than just a longman because they are desperate to find somebody who can get outs from that bullpen.
Aunt Becca
holy cow HFG looks great.
Where did it come from? Done with Tolkien’s estate’s blessing?
I think they should start making more Tolkien stories into films – its a cash cow.
Rishi -
Why is Damon on?????
What are they asking him?
What is he saying?
Damon is a great guy, but he just talks too much.
It’s not written in stone but looks like Berroa will always be in there against a lefty. Pena not great from the right side yet.
Angel Berroa, the Roberto Duran of baseball (Hands of Stone).
Wave,
That’s another good point. 13 pitchers on this roster is a joke.
Take tonight for example. Both catchers, the only catchers on the roster, are in the lineup tonight.
If Molina got hurt, they would lose the DH because Posada would have to go behind the plate and the pitcher would be batting.
I don’t believe any other team in baseball is currently carrying 13 pitchers.
Why the Yankees continue to do it is a mystery to me.
I really wonder why Berroa is playing. He stinks..He will swing at every curveball and off speed pitch that Lester throws. I think they know better then to throw him fastballs.
“NO LEAD SAFE: The Yankees have had at least a one-run lead in seven of their 11 losses.”
Hmmm, maybe the fact that we have no bullpen had something to do with this?
“If he used HGH as a Yankees, well, HGH seems to help athletes with recovery time and healing, not performance. So does aspirin. Move on. Xavier Nady is having platelets shot into his elbow. *The dividing line between these two
therapies is entirely arbitrary.*”
never thought of it like that
so i have to get on the subway for an hour, to get to the stadium, drink 3 beers and then they gonna tell me the game is cancelled?
y dont they schedule a doubleheader right now for tuesday.
its gotta be easier for everyone involved.-no??
Swisher with a bad elbow up 4th…why not Posada? Berroa at 3rd on a wet surface no less, why? Are Molina’s #’s so great vs Lester?
When I go home, I’m gonna have to watch it:
http://thehuntforgollum.s3.ama.....index.html
Thanks for mentioning this Aunt Becca!
Matsui has killed lefties all year. Girardi tries way too hard at this matching up BS.
Damon’s interview was generic…blah blah, tex can handle the boos and we’ll do better…felt like filler stuff
RussW210 May 4th, 2009 at 4:02 pm
“BERROA?!?!! WHYYYYYYYYYYYY??????”
More power with Matsui out.
HAHAHAHAHA
Best joke anyone has told all day
Jorge was off yesterday, why can’t he catch?
Why would Berroa ever start?
Why take Matsui out of the lineup?
Oh god, Berroa? I know Girardi has to put him in there tonight because of Lester, but I’d rather have El Nino in there, even if that means an automatic out. Pena’s glove alone will more than likely save a run…or two.
7 innings and not one play. Well that isn’t good.
The senior citizen kills lefties. Provides some RH pop.
I think traditionally the long man was not the worst pitcher on the pitching staff, he was the sixth (or fifth back in the day) starter.
That’s changed some now, but not completely. No way Aceves is the worst pitcher in the bullpen.
A pitcher that can go more than once through the order (read long man) is a useful commodity to any team that would like to have more than three players on its bench.
The Yanks evidently don’t care about the bench, so they can carry 8 relievers and use 2 when 1 would do.
Francessa today is the Red Sox lovefest – he’s got Cone on there now
I think it makes sense to bring Aceves up for a couple of reasons. It’s the Red Sox, and he’s a more seasoned pitcher. And, with the weather being as crummy as it is, if they play the game, they need to be ready if there is a long layoff and they don’t want to bring Hughes back into the game. Aceves can then give them length and they don’t risk Hughes.
Trisha -
I feel bad for Girardi, too, in the sense that he got a lot more than he bargained for re: Alex. However, no manager takes the NYY job without knowing it’s going to get dicey wth the media from time to time, or even all the time. I thought he did very well yesterday. He may be naive (
), but he had his say and kept his cool, imo. (And I’m one of the most naive people I know, so, I’m okay with that. I mean, I KNOW certain things are the way the are, but I don’t have to like or accept them – I think that’s what Girardi was trying to get across.)
There are so many jaded people in the world – too many – and I think it’s okay not to be jaded.
People are calling for Veras and/or Ramirez to be sent down. The bullpen depth is shrinking on the farm. Claggett who knows about. He was obviousy terrible but wasn’t good before or after his recall with SWB. Jackson has been great but is he the new Chris Britton?
Shees, we get it Francesca – the Yankees were embarrassed in Boston. It was 3 games – they’ve moved on. He’s obsessed with that sweep.
Glad to see Aceves up. I know he’s not that good, but I would rather sacrifice a game or so than torch the pen and sacrifice more games. He can eat innings even if they aren’t that good.
Damon pronounces Tex’s name as TEX-era not Te-shera, lol.
Berroa again? I don’t get it. So much for defense first – what did Pena do wrong again?
Lousy weather…maybe he’d just rather have Berroa and Molina in the field all night risking injury than Pena and Posada?
im all for a-rod back today, but not if he isnt ready to hit. imagine he comes back now, starts striking out and suddenly he is public enemy number 1 again. as long as pena is going the job, take your time. maybe if tex wasnt batting .180, we would be in a slightly better position.
The Yanks must be shopping Veras. He is shell-shocked for some reason and won’t be here much longer. He will join Marte and the next move is probably Tomko. If Wang comes back soon or Bruney someone will have to go.
I don’t understand the lineup tonight, either. If Molina gets hurt, we lose the DH. Plus, and even more likely, if Molina comes up late in the game in a crucial spot, we can’t pinch hit for him, either.
How is the eighth reliever worth that risk? I just don’t get it.
Bring up miranda or duncan now!!
fire veras.
Sorry S.A., but I don’t hate hobbits…so I wont be honking.
Hate is too strong a word, can I just not be excited about them?
Rishi -
Thanks. Glad Damon didn’t say too much. Sometimes he’s too cooperative, you know?
Jennifer -
Is that Alex? He didn’t have a single play in 7 innings? Wow, what’s the odds of that?????
Berroa is a RH bat.
If you don’t play him against lefties, then when will he play?
Pena isin’t proven against tough lefties.
Joe wanted to recreate the Molina/Hughes magic.
If it’s cold and damp out, you can be certain Marsui’s knee are aching right now…Not crazy about Berroa though….
SJ: Ramiro Mendoza as the long man seemed to work pretty well 1998-2000…
Betsy: Isn’t it documented that Damon has a speech impediment? cut him some slack.
SA and Uncle Ellsworth: Really good for amateur, no? Alas, I know plenty of LotR purists who don’t like it at all, but I think they just don’t get it.
And guys, it’s not as though, AFAIK, that Matsui can’t play at all tonight.
Having the problem where you want to catch molina but can’t decide between Posada’s bat or Matsui’s?
That’s a really, really, really nice problem to have.
“So much for defense first”
I understand Pena is a weak hitter from the right side but I still rather have his defense out there instead of Berroa. Especially on a wet slick field.
At any rate, I posted this in an earlier thread but everyone got out of it…I’ll give it another try.
If it was widely known that ARod had approval to call pitches, then a lot of people would know exactly how he did it. The information that Selena said she “Verified” with other sources were only about how he did it. How did she “verify” through her great investigative work that there were players that he was tipping to for quid pro quo?
On top of that, I can see a lot of misconstrued information coming from other players like Shane Spencer that “overheard” something about a quid pro quo. I can’t believe this was even reported on.
Berroa won’t even be here next week. Pena is a switcher, let him play. Maybe Aceves can catch, lol.
The roster is just too inflexible right now…much of it due to circumstances beyond their control.
Joe really has no choice but to go with some of these lineups until they get healthy again. I’d still rather see Nino in there tonight though.
DocBooch May 4th, 2009 at 4:15 pm
Sorry S.A., but I don’t hate hobbits…so I wont be honking.
Hate is too strong a word, can I just not be excited about them?
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I suppose. But that’s no fun
Rebecca
The trailer was amazing – I need to see the entire thing.
Why don’t the “purists” like it?
does girardi look at numbers before he writes a lineup? matsui has been crushing lefties all year. .400 average .700 slugging in 25 at bats. even if it’s a small sample size, stick with what works. goodness.
some of you are underestimating the senior citizen
he will come up big tonight
Clint,
Thanks for the info on the quality starts. Even subtracting Wang’s hideous 3 starts that’s still not a good ratio of quality starts.
The starters have been so bad they would essentially have needed 2 long men this season.
sjufan,
What I’m basically saying is that the starters simply haven’t been doing their jobs thus far. When you have a good pitching staff the long man is essentially a wasted roster spot.
It’s all a moot point now anyway with Joba and Hughes in the rotation now they really do need a long man. That just means however that Sabathia and AJ and to a lesser extent Pettitte HAVE to pitch better from now on to save the pen.
sjufan, matsui is on the bench because of the weather. really bad knees and wet ground. dont really mix and we do not need matsui back on the dl. We’ll deal.
I thought no one could take Papelbon’s place as Most Hated, then I saw a picture of Youkilis’ wife?
What????
She took that ‘beauty is only skin deep’ thing too literally.
http://theangryt.com/?p=2027
she’s about halfway down the page of greatness. potentially NSFW.
Berroa is going to be gone in a week, this is Pena’s job for the rest of the year. We face a righty, let’s see if Berroa can run into one.
This really isin’t a big deal. Some people stress wayyy too much about the lineups every night.
hey buddy, whats with the weather, should we head out there or is it lookin like another rain out?
The crying about the lineup is hilarious. What’s this if Molina gets hurt we’re screwed junk? We lose the DH because Posada will have to catch. Boo hoo. What are the odds that Molina gets hurt? It could happen, but I wouldn’t worry about it too much. We have other things to worry about that are more realistic.
Not playing Matsui, although the offense may take a hit, having two days off has to help his knees. It’s also not real intelligent to have him running the bases on the muddy track.
Oh lord Francesa at it again. Joba to the pen.
please no rainout, hoping for an Erin Andrews ESPN stadium tour during the game
bbbbbbbbbbbiiiiiiiiiiigggggggggg pppppppaaaaaappppppppiiii
the champ is back
Fatcessa is going on again about how Joba needs to be a reliever… christ, this guy doesn’t shut up on this.
such an idiot!
Jobber to the pen stuff again from Francesa.
Nooooooo
Fran has an opinion on everything
“What are the odds that Molina gets hurt? It could happen, but I wouldn’t worry about it too much. We have other things to worry about that are more realistic.”
Like whether or not we will need to use nine pitchers tonight, I guess.
What the hell is Berroa doing in there instead of Pena?!
We will never see Marte again.
fair enough on matsui’s knees. but this is not an isolated incident. girardi sat matsui and giambi last year a lot vs. LHP despite both of them having better numbers vs. LHP. he gets way too crazy with lefty/righty on both sides of the baseball. techinically, matsui should be taking days against righties before lefties. it’s more the broader scope of girardi’s lefty/righty obsession than it is this one game (which i agree, and had not thought of, that two days off on matsui’s knees, in the rain, is sound reasoning).
Jobber to pen? Let’s get Pedroyer’s opinion.
Veras will be next to go. Then Berroa.
“my opinion is that they are gonna try and get this game in”
-mike francessa
love the insight mike.
Even when our lineup is
Jeter
Damon
Teixeria
Rodriguez
Matsui
Posada
Cano
Swisher
Melky/Gardner
People will find something to complain about.
Why should Girardi go to his pen in the 5th inning?
He may need to save a pitcher for a potential 15th inning, so he has to be careful.
Zach in Port Jeff
May 4th, 2009 at 4:30 pm
“my opinion is that they are gonna try and get this game in”
-mike francessa
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LOL
My opinion is that water is wet.
Uncle Ellsworth: Because it doesn’t stick to the canon.
If King Francesser said it, it must be true.
People thought Fernando Tatis was done too… now he is the best bench player in baseball.
Give Berroa a chance. He did win Rookie of the year not too long ago.
RS not at YS again until August.
I don’t know why, but when I see Pete’s mug on the video logs I mentally photoshop a Red Sox hat on his head.
On the plus side: it could be worse, mental imagery-wise.
On this week’s Joe Girardi show, someone sent in a question asking what would happen when Wang comes back and Hughes is pitching great, would he get sent down, etc.
Joe’s reply was, “That’s not a Phil Hughes question, it’s a Joba question isn’t it?” so sounds like the Jobe-to-the-pen crusaders might have a cause.
“Give Berroa a chance. He did win Rookie of the year not too long ago.”
A chance for what? Pena has nutted it up lately and played pretty well. Well enough that he should be on the bench when Arod comes back. His skills started to deteroriate right after he won the ROY.
What does A-rod tell Selena Roberts when she has two black eyes?
thanks Rebecca
Seems like they just filled in some gaps where JRRT had an outline. The Voiceover on the one trailer sounded like it was taken directly from the Appendix (love the Appendix)
Nothing. He already told her twice.
Sweeney brought up a good point… you can pinch hit Matsui for Berroa, then put Pena in for defense. You can’t do it the other way around.
Fernando Tatis is the best bench player in baseball?
I think you need to watch more baseball if you really believe that.
Might as well check out Aceves. When Bruney comes back someone will have to go.
Can they just decide about this game already? This is ridiculous. They’re going to once again make 45,000 people trek to the stadium just to be sent home again.
Scorpio -
I think it just means that at this point, Joe Girardi can read between the lines!
“Bring up miranda or duncan now!!”
Eric right ?
And why is est. 1903 doing at 3B tonight ?
“Can they just decide about this game already? This is ridiculous. They’re going to once again make 45,000 people trek to the stadium just to be sent home again.”
It’s all about the cold hard cash.
“Sweeney brought up a good point… you can pinch hit Matsui for Berroa, then put Pena in for defense. You can’t do it the other way around.”
Well that makes sense.
Doreen –
Didn’t think of it that way but you might be right =)
That Joe, he’s so slick.
A 3rd catcher would be nice with 7 relievers, not 8. If Aceves pans out expect Veras and Jackson (why is he even up instead of Tomko?) to go and add Bruney.
I love the fact that a Red Sox troll has the name “chowdah” in his name.
Like stereotypes, do ya? Don’t tell me you name is Sully as well.
I don’t understand Berroa being in the lineup. He can’t hit and he can’t defend. What value does he have?
Last year in 293 ABs… Tatis hit .297/.369/.484/.853 with 11 HRs, 16 doubles, and 47 RBIs.
He hit .392 with RISP. He hit .278/.350 as a pinch hitter. And he can play basically every position except CF and C.
Not bad at all.
I’d kill for a guy like that on the bench right now. Of course, Swisher/Nady would be the best bench player in baseball so once we’re healthy, we should be fine.
Aceves? Good call. I think he got off to a poor start because this was the first winter he took off (why?).
Kay always says things that make him sound like an idiot.
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The reason you see a Red Sox hat on his head is because he acts like a Red Sox fan. A bloated sense of entitlement, total arrogance, an inability to admit mistakes and clear bias against just about all things Yankees or New York related are all signs of a Sawx, Pats, Celts and Bruins fan. Pete fits the bill.
In search,
Seriously asking why Aceves is here instead of Tomko? Take a look at the 40-man roster.
will there be a game tonight?
Steve needs to go away. His posts scare me. Not kidding.
Pete, you really ought to add New Stadium Insider to your list of linked Yankee fan sites.
It will be next to impossible to get a 3rd catcher in here. If Nady comes back forget it altogether. Unless Gardner gets sent down.
The sr. citizen is going to put on a show tonight
Angel “Manos de Piedra” Berroa @3B vs. Bos. If you had told Girardi back in January that he’d be penciling that on his lineup card at any point this season, he’d have laughed out loud.
Baseball does that to every team. The mark of a good team, which the Yanks have put up to this point (imho), is the ability to overcome this eventuality.
Stop
What about my posts scare you? I made a joke regarding A-rod and Selena Roberts and I verbalized what everyone has been expressing about Pete regarding bis coverage of A-rod. To anyone who recognizes those characteristics that embody Boston fans, it is obvious that Pete fits the criteria.
No rain in NYC right now. But very grey & gloomy. Most likely game delay, if anything.
Some are saying it’ll clear by 10 but I’ll be shocked if they wait that long.
They should have told some of those kids to hit balls to the right side on purpose.
m -
Maybe because he’s a newlywed?
This game look like it’s gonna happen?
Joe G. will wish he played El Nino when Berroa throws away 2 balls in the 1st inng.
Berrora’s lifetime .200 ba and .200 obp against Lester must be the reason.
Hopefully Yankee pitching can continue to keep Big Papi befuddled in the batters box.
How long will Francona go with him in the 3 hole?
Ellsbury will bunt to lead off the game, right at Berroa.
It is pouring steadily in central NJ right now. One of THE most disgusting days of the year. Yuck.
If they play, it’s going to be a mess.
Reggie
Good joke, did your sister tell you that one when she was taking you to school on the basketball court? Remember, you have as many rings as A-rod does right now and due to your own stupidity, you missed out on one last year.
People arent complaining for no reason.. with the condition the field will be in tonight considering the weather, you seriously would rather have the rock handed, geriatric out there than the kid??
It was the two black eyes that got me, Steve. You may have some issues.
“I don’t believe any other team in baseball is currently carrying 13 pitchers.
Why the Yankees continue to do it is a mystery to me.”
you have been answering yourself for the last week. The pen and rotation has been very below average.
I understand the whole Joba to the pen is not popular….That being said, if you want to watch the Yanks playing in October, you may want to start embracing the idea…..I’m not for it as well, but it looks like the only way to have a locktight bullpen, and of course win games…..
Cashman coming up with Francesa.
The hour by hour forecast on weather.com has been changing every 10 minutes
For a while, it said rain straight through all day today and looked like there was no shot it would get played. Then it was supposed to only drizzle during the day and the rain was going to become heavier right around game time. Then it said it will only be “showers” for the first 2 hours then heavier rain from 9 PM on.
Now it’s saying there’s going to be light rain/showers for the evening and the heavier rain won’t start until 11 PM.
Everyday A-Rod goes 1-6.
so Cashman and Girardi still to come with Francessa…will he replay Girardi from earlier or will it be a new interview. not usually home to watch this stuff so I have no idea
Doreen,
I’m surprise at you! I figure GB7 would beat you to the punch.
I think he should’ve done what Melky did, concentrate on making the team.
J/K I think he knew his ticket was punched for Scranton. I don’t think anyone ever envisioned him as the long man. Wait, didn’t we do that on the blog? Sigh. Guess Aceves never saw Raging Bull.
So not Yankees related but if you are Strasburg are you happy or not about this
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.c.....strasburg/
Reggie Miller,
So tell us the real reason why you didn’t want to go play for the Celtics? You coulda had your ring!
Stop
Just a joke regarding A-rod and Selena. The point I was making was considering her feeling towards men as evidenced by her coverage of the Duke lacrosse case, it is understandably inapproriately amusing to imagine her the victim of domestic violence from the subject she so clearly desires to hurt who in all likelihood is too much of a pansy to actually hurt anyone.
m -
No, no, no! Wives first! Especially in the beginning.
I don’t understand what’s wrong with bringing up Aceves as a long man earlier. He doesn’t necissarily need to pitch 3 innings every time out.
Don’t think a delay will do the teams any good.
Rain is only supposed to improve slightly after 8-8:30, but become heavier between 10 and 11.
So unless they think we can finish the game in the “light rain” window, in 2 or 2 1\2 hours, it seems better to start it on time, even if it raining harder than they want it to, and finish it before the heavier rain comes. Yanks/Sox games last 4 hours anyway, so there is really no way to avoid playing in some steady rain
You lost me on that one, Steve…I just don’t think DV is funny. Ever. But it’s a Yankee night so let’s move on.
m -
GB7 hasn’t been here today yet.
Cashman on live
Can anyone tell me the best parking strategy coming off the Deegan? much appreciated.
Hughes pitching in the rain and cold against the Red Sox?
Ouch. I wouldn’t blame him if he does bomb. Having to face this lineup in these conditions is not ideal.
Aunt Becca, I was joking – I thought it was funny and I had no idea Damon had a speech impediment. I was not making fun of him…..
Doreen,
Doesn’t matter. He wouldn’t say anything because he’s making great strides as a gentleman.
You’re using the old Red Sox logo–they changed that one a little this past off-season. If you care. (I noticed YES using the old one, too, last series.)
Who’s da masta?
Reggie
I didnt know they allowed has been former basketball players whose sisters play better than they do on this site either. And I really dont mind the Sox although I wont go so far as to cheer for them. I do like Ozzie Guillen and Ken Williams.
cashman’s playing with the bb throughout this interview
Does Cashman ever sleep?
Betsy: I wasn’t sure if you knew. No harm meant.
What kind of PDA is that ?
that’s a blackberry
Aceves is most likely up for two reasons
1. As a long man(Obviously)
2. If there is a Dbl.Header tomorrow he would prob start one of the games.
“So not Yankees related but if you are Strasburg are you happy or not about this”
Gayle,
These Strasburg negotiations are going to be out of hand.
Right now it’s all posturing. The Nats have repeatedly made statements like this and there’s probably two reasons for that. First it’s a message to their fan base. They failed to sign their round 1 pick Aron Crow the second best college pitcher last season over something like 500K. Their fan base has no belief in them and doesnt’ believe their willing to spend to win.
And the bigger message is to Boras. Boras has gotten things strated early throwing out 6yrs/50M as his usual ridiculous starting point. There was some feeling he threw that number out there to try to intimidate the Nats into not taking Strasburg so he could slip to another team.
I thought Boras would try to get Strasburg a $15M bonus last year. The record is 10 or 11M I think (mark prior).
Ultimately, Boras has the Nats in a very tough place. On the flip side Strasburg instantly becomes the face of the franchise and given how bad the nats are very well might start in the majors next season and in turn meets Boras’s primary goal – how do I get my player to free agency as fast as possible.
Can someone fill me in
Who is the “sr. citizen”?
Teixeira?
“that’s a blackberry”
I’ve seen a blackberry that’s not one.
it’s a Verizon international blackberry…also comes in red – it’s on the company plan
Cashman probably used the $10 million that could have gone to Mike Cameron, and spent it on a custom made Blackberry with special features and a new design.
the phone:
http://www.verizonwireless.com.....oneId=3015
Hope the game is played this eve.
Quick A-Rod book question/comment…Who is the target customer to buy this book? I root against the guy for obvious reasons and I would never buy the book. Heck, half the players in MLB have a similar past in this generation IMO. Why would a Yankee fan buy this book? No chance.
Any AL Central fans care about this book? NL West? Doubt it.
Who exactly is going to going to buy this book? All I can picture is Chief Wahoo reading it between innings but only because he was sent a free copy.
I see very little audience for this book.
Mel, Where you referring to Cheryl’s brother?
-dennis
Cashman with a Bridge on the River Kwai reference. very nice.
“It’s blown up.” Maybe you shouldn’t have bet all your chips on Bruney & Marte, Brian.
That’s the edition ? ok I’ll check.
Brandon that looks like the BBrry Curve
CB the whole Strasburg thing is just so intriguing to me if they sign him he will get boat load of money but on a team that stinks and will probably stink for quite a while not very exciting for a kid like that in terms of psyche issues.
It’s a Blackberry that your butt can’t dial.
Cash was reading Mike the text about Alex’s results today.
Brandon – i linked to it above
Dennis,
Yes, there’s a RS troll with that name here today.
Things didn’t look so well early on yesterday, no?
I hate rainouts, but again, it might be for the best.
Hughes against that lineup in these conditions does not make for a pretty picture.
Berroa is already a butcher at third. A slick field is only going to exacerbate the problem.
Thanks Rishi
Dennis-
It seems not many people are it is currently #61 on the Amazon top 100 which is not a good showing for the first day of a book that has been hyped so much.
I’m actually not allowed to have head phones at work anymore… lame
Can someone give me a quick run down of what cashman said to francesca today?
There wont be any money given, but on your deathbed, you will receive total consciousness
lol. Cashman beating around the bush, but basically saying the vets are boring. Used all kinds of big words, though.
Hey Mel.
I had no idea about the troll or what you are referring to about yesterday other than Carl Crawford stealing 31 bases against Varitek’s Dad.
I was a guest bartender/mc at a fundraiser for the Savannah Humane Society yesterday. Amy and I had a blast however my sports day was lost so I have missed what you are referring to. -dennis
“will probably stink for quite a while not very exciting for a kid like that in terms of psyche issues.”
True. On the flip side for any young player the primary goal is to make it to the big leagues and do so quickly.
The nats – because they are so bad – give him that chance. He also has the opportunity to be their first start player.
That’ll be how they sell it.
And Boras will be constantly reminding him the advantage you get with playing with the Nats is that you will get to free agency very quickly and will be able to get a ton of money from them because they are so desperate.
It’ll be interesting to see. Unbelievable stuff. Really amazing.
Strasburg had no Div 1 offers and had to finagle his way on to the San Diego State team. Turned out to be a huge gift.
Tony Gwynn had treated Strasburg very, very well. He hasn’t overused him as so many college pitchers are.
An arm like that at many other programs would have gotten squeezed for every pitch it was worth.
But Gwynn protected him and did what was right.
“The Book” is selling at 35% off on barnesandnoble.com…that doesn’t seem good, either
Thanks Gayle. I hope the book bombs IMO.
-dennis
“I had no idea about the troll or what you are referring to about yesterday other than Carl Crawford stealing 31 bases against Varitek’s Dad.”
This is why we love you Dennis. Varitek’s dad… good stuff.
I must say – those stolen bases weren’t really his fault at all.
Crawford got one huge jump after another on the pitchers.
Shields was tremendous yesterday. He had that change up working very well. Tough game for your guys. Penny looked very good yesterday given his recent troubles.
Austin Jackson according to Cashman language…September.
I’m wicked psyched to be here. You guys ready to rent some cahs?
AD,
My goodness. Cashman’s on a roll. Mile a minute, but moving from topic to topic very quickly.
Covered everything but the book and Aceves so far.
-Swish is a godsend
-Talked about Alex’s progress
-Didn’t disagree that CC & Tex may be having problems adjusting to NY
-Talked about Melky took advantage of his second chance, Gardy needs to be ready to do the same
-Bullen, will search within. If that doesn’t work go outside
-Today in May doesn’t want to say Jackson will be called up, but he’s had to do it before. Didn’t want to bring up Hughes. Wants Jackson to have a full season @ AAA, but things happen
dennis,
Sorry, but was glad to see CC run on someone not named Posada or Molina.
I was referring to the first quarter of the C’s/Bulls game. Chicago got out to a fast start, but faded in the second half of the second.
Very short turnaround for them tonight.
Looks like they are putting men on base for ARod in these simulated games, he is what 3-24 …
*Didn’t want to bring up Hughes [in '07].
heading to the stadium in about 15 minutes for better or for worse
but they did not discuss “the book” – or did I miss it?
good luck, gayle – feels like they are going to get the game in
Amen, Hardwired. The pen was just an afterthought this winter/spring. I’m glad to see Aceves up, but he won’t be nearly enough. I will say this, however — the dude will get work!
Lets see a month and half or little more there was a clamor to get rid of Matsui even eat his salary. Don’t hear that anymore.
Is it my imagination or is he even running better than before the first knee problem. He, for him really busted it on that triple the other night.
Hope he keeps on keein on.
Alex signed autographs for waiting fans but did not answer questions from the media except to say “I feel good”.
CB.
Thanks for the kind words.
TB owns us at TB. I actually think Nick in SF put the hex on the Sox as I have reason to believe he personally sent Joe Madden a pair of Elvis Costello frames. It’s BS but karma will come back around. Hope this eve is played as I look forward to seeing Hughes deal.
-dennnis
m-
Much appreciated, thanks!
cute:
“Rodriguez was in the on-deck circle before his last at-bat when a little girl asked him if she could get the bat if A-Rod broke it. He turned, smiled and said “Yes.” ”
they are throwing out there too
Hey look Phil Coke playing catch in the outfield…
Far away from the phone that he is afraid to answer when it rings!
if you care: Oliver Perez is going to the Mets bullpen (would have refused ml reassignment)
Hughes better step up today
I will not accept a 4 gm. losing streak to Boston. Time for this team to show the ability to beat our biggest rival.
Hopefully it doesn’t rain. This should be a really interesting series.
I’m curious to see what Hughes does tonight. I’ve been more bullish on him than a lot of people.
Game has been called according to Daily News blog.
My apologies. That was yesterday’s game. Continue on.
Guys, hate to be a downer, but the radar now looks not very good.
http://www.weather.com/weather.....ayer=radar
AD,
NP.
Breaking News. Oliver Perez to the bullpen.
It really isn’t up to you to accept anything. lol
I love the “talk radio terms” the youngins’ come up with on the blog.
“Hughes better step up”. How would you know if he didn’t?
Too much talk radio just destroys brains. Folks should limit themselves on it for their own wellbeing.
Oli Perez to the BP
Perhaps the Yanks should employ this strategy today:
http://www.theonion.com/conten....._take_knee
Somebody post Oli’s WHIP please
I don’t blame them for calling the game – the field must be a mess and the forecast is not promising. I suppose people will complain later that “hey, they could have played in this – there’s a 2 hour window”, but knowing the Sox/Yankees, by the end of 2 hours, they’d be in the fourth inning. I do not relish Hughes or any one on this team getting hurt in these conditions…….problem is, though, tomorrow is supposed to be just as bad. The days off suck because that means fewer days off later in the year, but what can you do? At this point, Phil has to be skipped – AJ as is is going to go on 7 day rest if he doesn’t pitch tomorrow
Has the game really been called? They just opened the gates an hour ago. How do you call the game just now?
Brandon,
Are you listening to Mike? He’s flabbergasted that the Mets are going having a 40 yr. old Japanese pitcher making his debut.
The blog entry was dated May 3rd, which was yesterday’s game that was rained out. Today’s game hasn’t been called.
Game has NOT been called
messenger made a mistake
What exactly is Perez going to do in the bullpen?
He has less confidence than our relievers that are afraid when the BP phone rings LOL
Uh oh.
http://deadspin.com/5239847/
m, he had the look like someone left no diet coke on his table.
dennis,
hughes vs. lester will be fun. hopefully the rain cooperates.
I saw that Buchholz won the international league pitcher of the week. Any sense of when he might be called back up?
Are we looking at an 11 PM start time again?
Francesa’s fridge is probably stocked with diet coke.
There is no completely clean window for today’s game.
They’re going to have to play in some steady rain to get the game in. It will clear up slightly after 8:30 or so, but then it will start raining more steadily at like 11-11:30.
But if they start at 7, the heaviest rain will be in the 1st hour of the game, they’ll finish it before the second band of heavy rain at 11.
All depends— do you want the steadier rain for Hughes’ first couple of innings, or the 8th-9th inning?
Aunt Becca, personal life. None of our business on that one.
Brandon,
lol. I forgot he’s on tv, too. “Sounds” like he was shaking his head the whole time.
For those who weren’t listening. They did not ask Oli to go back to the minors (Mike thinks because he would’ve said no).
Rebecca,
I saw that radar. Looked worse than earlier in the day. Seems like forever since we’ve had baseball. Must seem longer for you.
Talked to death I know, but here’s an excerpt from Boston Globe’s Nick Carfardo about the Arod tipping signs thing:
”
Opinions don’t seem to be tipping in book’s favor
Allegations made in the book “A-Rod: The Many Lives of Alex Rodriguez,” to be released tomorrow, that Rodriguez had a reciprocal pitch-tipping scheme going with other players to guard against prolonged slumps do not seem plausible to several baseball veterans we asked.
The story goes that Rodriguez, in games that were out of hand, would relay the catcher’s signal to an opposing hitter, and A-Rod would get tipped off when he came to the plate.
Red Sox third base coach DeMarlo Hale, who coached Rodriguez with the Rangers, was dumbfounded by the allegations.
“I must have been looking at a different game if that was happening,” said Hale. “What I’ll say about Alex is this: He was one of the hardest-working players I ever coached or managed. Alex was a guy who really cared about winning. That’s what was in his heart.”
Former Blue Jays manager Buck Martinez also said he had a tough time believing it. His point was that so many players would have to be involved, how could it not have gotten out by now?
About a dozen scouts covering the Red Sox-Rays series in Tampa also were skeptical, many believing that Rodriguez has become an easy target, given the steroid admissions and some of his social habits.
Said a coach familiar with Rodriguez, “I hope that’s not true because I don’t know how he could pull that off without other people on our team knowing about it. He definitely ran our defense and he gave signs on the field to adjust. If someone mistook those signals for tipping off batters? I don’t know. Doesn’t make much sense to me.”
The Commissioner’s Office will likely look into the matter anyway.
About a dozen baseball people asked about the allegations rolled their eyes and brought up several issues.
“I can barely see the signals from third base,” said Mike Lowell. “I don’t know how that would work. I’ve never heard anything like this.”"
http://www.boston.com/sports/b.....me/?page=3
Reggie Miller
May 4th, 2009 at 5:43 pm
I think Dennis is a sheep in Red Sox clothing! LOL
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Did you really “Laugh Out Load” because you just said something that wasn’t funny? That’s sad and pathetic.
As for Dennis being here, not everyone spends their life being an ass. You appear to counter that. However, since you seem to be 15 years old, you may outgrow it before somebody knocks it out of you.
Yo Doug,,,You’re a rather demanding sort…Are you a stock holder or something…Every time you post it’s the same or else crap……Are you & Evolution on the same tee-ball team ???
I heard twice on the radio today that the sox are the team to beat in baseball this year. I couldnt believe I heard that once nevermind twice – one, they did not make it past the rays last year as far as I recall and two, they added no pieces last off-season that will likely make any sort of major impact.
So I couldnt wait to hear the reasoning for this. The first show never even said why which is understandable considering the fact that he probably couldnt even think of something to say and the second said that it is their “tremendous” pitching depth. Apparently, Penny who had an era over 6 last year and it is over 7 so far this year, smoltz who at 42 years old is trying to come back from major shoulder surgery and bucholz who had a whip of 1.8 last year in 80 innings on the sox is who they thought could be qualified as pitching depth.
And far more than the yanks who are getting by just fine in their rotation after a disastrous start by their number two starter with Hughes. I mean, I would understand maybe if the radio show said bullpen depth but how in the world can they say starting depth while assuming john smoltz will come back after this surgery at 42 and be john smoltz. I wouldnt mind except their job is to talk about sports and yet, the sox have amazing depth because of these three have beens and never-was guys above. Unbelievable.
If this game could just get called, by the time the make-up game rolls around:
We’d have ARod.
The Yanks would have that much longer to sell their unsold premium seats.
Our pitching staff may have gelled.
I’ve got tickets tonight, and I’m about ready to go, but it sure seems to me the best move would be to call it.
CB.
I would guess it will be contigent upon Dice K’s rehab and Penny’s next two starts. If Penny struggles in his next few starts he may make have a “DL” stint IMO. He threw OK yesterday from what I read but he has been weak at best with his command.
I would much rather watch Bucholtz than Penny keep his career alive with less than adequate work ethic IMO.
-dennis
Maybe Selena Roberts uncovered a giant sign stealing conspiracy and now all of MLB is scrambing to cover it up.
Perhaps Major League Baseball is a fixed as wrestling and the only people who don’t know it are the fans and media. WOW, kind of mindblowing.
It’s still real to me though.
I’m laughing here watching this.
“Very bizarre start for the Mets, who have done some really strange things” *scratching his head while saying that*
The last thing I want is to play this game on a bad field simply because its the Red Sox in town.
That’s how players get hurt.
That’s how Brian Bruney lost most of his season last year. On a field in Chicago so bad, you could see the puddles in the infield.
Two years ago, Damon hurt both legs on a wet field in NY and wasn’t the same for the rest of the season.
To me, the weather is rotten, no logical window to play the game seems to be in place (looking at the radar), just call it and be done with it.
Bad news. Raining steadily in Manhattan right now, ugh.
Got to go.
Ollie Perez to the pen? Um..
If you pan out looks to be clear. I say it looks like an about 8:00 start:
http://www.weather.com/weather.....ation=true
Maybe Doug is Hank in disguise?
“Did you really “Laugh Out Load” because you just said something that wasn’t funny? That’s sad and pathetic.”
GB7
no warm ups he sits on the bench all day and comes into the game and knocks one out of the park!
complete with spelling error no less.
I would cancel the game, too – but they aren’t going to do that.
You could probably have a 3 hr window from 8:30-11:30
Not going to stop raining though, going to be a little lighter, but it’s going to be wet.
The games is also on ESPN. If the Seattle Mariners were in the Bronx tonight, the game would have been postponed 3 hours ago.
This is the same forecast as yesterday’s game and they called it despite the fact that LA doesn’t come back here.
And they’re going to play this despite the fact we have 2 more series with Boson at home?
Correct me if Im wrong but it seems to me that the sox and the yanks have had the exact same thing in terms of starting pitching so far. They both had one of their upper five starters go down to the dl and both were replaced by their first line of starting pitching depth – masterson and hughes. I would rather have hughes than masterson.
After that, they have buchholz and smoltz and we have kennedy, aceves and tomko. While on paper, smoltz is far more well known of a name, kennedy is actually been dominating in scranton while smoltz hasnt been around in forever and is in his 40s. Bukhholz has not proven a thing so far. Plus, it is fair to say that the yanks original five are far superior to the sox five to begin with especially when wang returns. Penny is not even depth because he is slated to be in the rotation and is doing horribly as he did last season so while the sox may have some better known names, the yanks are even stronger than the sox in almost every aspect of the rotation. The pen is a different story right now but when bruney and marte come back and join melancon who should really be acclimated to the big leagues at that point, the yanks pen should rival any in baseball as mo, bruney and melancon will prolly be three of the best bullpen arms in all of baseball at years end. And i heard bruney is only out for a week or two but correct me if im wrong.
So who makes the decision on this stuff… the Yankees or ESPN?
Umps only control it after the game starts
Bob Holtzman reporting live from Yankee Stadium on ESPN
Reggie Miller
May 4th, 2009 at 6:01 pm
Green Beret, The next comment from Dennis will be him thanking you for protecting him, very predictable. And violence is not the answer. Or is it with you?
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There’s nobody that needs protection from anybody on a sports board. It’s a shsme that your only purpose is to start crap like a 5 year old. There are actually Sox fans that can see issues with both teams and discuss it. You don’t happen to be that type. Save your BS until you feel you have the stones to say something to someone ***face to face***.
“Francesa’s fridge is probably stocked with diet coke.” lol.
more like his entire basement and garage.
The Red Sox aren’t deep with starting pitching in AAA.
Unless you are counting Dice-K when he makes a rehab start.
They have 3 real prospects on their AAA pitching roster: Buchholz, Bowden and Bard, and the latter two are thought of as bullpen options more than starters at the next level.
after watching holtzman, im going to say ortiz has a huge game.
I sure don’t wish anyone, not anyone, to be out of a job.
So I think we Yankee fans need to support the union workers at the Boston Globe in their efforts to resist the threat of the owners to close the paper.
After all, the Boston press gives us some great stuff to bust the Sux asses. Agree?
there’s this really interesting concept in seattle. you see, when it rains, a roof rolls over the field.
i have no idea why they didn’t make a roll over roof for the new yankee stadium.
of course , when this one gets old and they build another one in the place where the old one is, they can make a roof for that one.
I know they you are a Red Sox fan but, they don’t have “unbelievable pitching” on the PawSox roster.
I guess you make think that to be the case. However, anybody that follows minor league baseball and prospects would disagree with you.
Poor Holtzman… they are making him the East Coast version of Pedro Gomez.
Uncle Ellsworth
May 4th, 2009 at 6:01 pm
“Did you really “Laugh Out Load” because you just said something that wasn’t funny? That’s sad and pathetic.”
GB7
no warm ups he sits on the bench all day and comes into the game and knocks one out of the park!
complete with spelling error no less.
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I just bought a new dictionary and I’m trying it now. I got it at “Books-a-Million”. Hopefully, I didn’t get one of their seconds…the ones with misspelled words.
Pedroia on with Kim Jones.
I hate when they interview Red Sox players and you end up liking them.
Who cares about Pedroia. We’re all looking at Kim anyway.
Who cares about Pedroia. We’re all looking at Kim anyway.
Trevor, I misread your post for a second.
He would need a ladder.
Wow. Just goes to show I have two eyes.
Reggie,
Look at scrantons record right now. They did that mainly because of superb pitching as well. Doesnt mean it will translate directly to the majors. And when these guys were discussing depth, i dont hear prospects names except buchholz. They were talking about smoltz and for some reason penny who isnt even depth. He is just a horrible starter iin the rotation currently.
Plus, out of pawtucket starters, I only see bowden and bukhholz putting down impressive numbers and none of the other starters. Bowden is already called up and in the pen and bukhholz while showing much success in the minors has only proven he cant pitch in the majors so far. I can also say the same thing about the yanks – ian kennedy is putting up numbers that are just as good as what buchholz is doing as is fossum and aceves hasnt been too shabby in his last few. So what does that prove? Nothing. The sox dont have any more pitching depth for their rotation than the yanks.
Outside of Beckett and Papelbon, the Red Sox are really not that unlikeable of a team.
Who cares about Pawtucket.
I’m having visions of Nicole Kidman & Tom Cruise right now.
“Outside of Beckett and Papelbon, the Red Sox are really not that unlikeable of a team.”
I hate Youkilis more then any player in baseball. And I hate Beckett and Papelbon a ton. I also strongly dislike 5 foot nothing Pedroia.
The loser with the “C” on his uniform is on my list, too.
Donnie,
Here here on the ogre that is Youkilis.. i just hate that guys stupid face..
Photo of the Pedroia-Kim Jones interview has already been posted:
http://tinyurl.com/c38mcm
Actually, the “C” is obnoxious. Otherwise, he’s an okay guy.
Just can’t like any of these guys because they’re good and it’s a rivalry.
If the Sox come down to earth, you’ll see some of that swagger and intimidation disappear.
Beckett’s not so intimidating now.
Only thing is that Ortiz should stop talking about the Yankees.
wow Nick that’s funny
LINCOLN, Neb. (AP) — The mother of New York Yankees pitcher Joba Chamberlain is jailed in Nebraska and facing a felony charge after being arrested on suspicion of selling methamphetamine to an undercover police officer in February.
Lincoln Police Capt. David Beggs said Monday that 44-year-old Jacqueline Standley was arrested at her apartment Saturday night.
Beggs said she allegedly sold 1 gram of a substance believed to be meth to an uncover officer for $110 on Feb. 11. The substance tested positive for meth in testing at the state laboratory.
She was charged Monday with delivery of an exceptionally hazardous drug. Her bail was set at $5,000, and she was assigned a public defender, whose name was not on her jail record.
Photo of the Pedroia-Kim Jones interview has already been posted:
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Oh my god… I almost spit out my coffee! LOL.
Haha! Well done Nick.
Rebecca is an aunt? Okay, I guess I did miss interesting things by skipping over a few threads, lol.
Wow, congratulations. A first-time aunt?
Poor Joba. Can’t be easy for him.
PeteAbe asking baseball questions about Alex!
Im glad coke, aceves and melancon are all up. It goes to show how fast a team can run through its so called bullpen depth in the minors – doesnt take long. But i think those three should be up here helping out the major league club rather than wasting their talent in the minors for no purpose. melancon and aceves quickly jump up to two of the most important cogs in the pen along with coke who is impressing again this year so far.
So marte and bruney are hurt and veras, edwar, robertson and albadejo all stink right now. I think at least two of those four can turn it around while the three above hold down the fort until bruney comes back which hopefully wont be too long. If not, just keep bringing up whoever is doing best in the minors and sending down whoever is doing worst in the majors until something clicks. While i do think it would have been wise of cash to add another arm this off-season and said it many times, i also think this pen has the talent to be great. Unfortunately, we are missing two very important pieces when many are others are under performing but i really think within a month or two, this pen will be a force. Then, we can start worrying about something else that is falling apart.
“And both teams will be there in October. It’s the way it should be and will be.”
Obnoxious.
Nick in SF May 4th, 2009 at 6:24 pm
Photo of the Pedroia-Kim Jones interview has already been posted:
http://tinyurl.com/c38mcm
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Hahahahaha
Very funny Nick
Girardi did a good job with “The Book” question.
“Rebecca is an aunt? Okay, I guess I did miss interesting things by skipping over a few threads, lol.
Wow, congratulations. A first-time aunt?”
Yep.
My nephew + my parents’ first grandkid + my brother’s eldest son was born 5.10 AM on 2 May.
Great job not building a retractable roof, Yankees
$1.5 billion and no roof.
Just like there is no crying in baseball…
There is no retractable roofs in baseball either.
Deal with it.
is = are
roof not needed…..who cares about a rainout
Reggie,
Id have to agree but i still think the yanks have the stronger rotation while the sox currently have a much stronger pen. It may even itself out or change entirely in the end but thats how it looks right now. Whether it is penny or smoltz, as i said in the off-season, I have a tough time seeing them become a reliable starter at all at this point in the AL east. I also like hughes as are our sixth man much more than anybody who would serve as the redsox sixth.
Why didn’t they just build a dome for us to play in?
Is the open air atmosphere that important? I wouldn’t mind playing in a place like Tropicana Field
If Aceves is part of THE ANSWER, the term “long man” will not apply. He’s a positive addition to the team, especially since he’s on the 40 man. Bullpen depth: Rotate!
Awesome! What exciting news all around for your family.
Did they know it was going to be a boy? What’s his name?
If you look at the radar its going to rain the next 2 1/2 to 3 hours. If they want to wait until 9:30 to start this, that’s their only hope. I wouldn’t doubt them doing that.
Ms Jones question was “Aceves”
I like the brevity.
A retractable roof? Lame.
Is the open air atmosphere that important? I wouldn’t mind playing in a place like Tropicana Field
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Instead of cowbells, maybe we can all just shoot our .45′s in the air.
Anyone, whose picture’s on the big screen? Is that Hughes?
If the game starts at 9:30, I don’t think Berroa will be in the lineup
Retirement Home require he must check in no later than 10.
The Yankees will play this game, if they have to pull the tarp on for half an hour a couple of times, the teams will wait it out. Knowing how long these games usually are, it might not be over until 2AM.
so it’s not going to stop raining, that is clear. yet that plan to play the game, but it won’t start on time?
are they or are they not playing in the rain today? that is the question here.
lol. Girardi made a joke when asked a second question about the book.
I’m asking cause I am at Manhattan College right now, and it’s a 30 minute train ride to the stadium. I’m already planning on leaving late but I wonder if I should go at all.
I think you should. Radar looks like it should clear at about 830. Expect a game about 9.
Angel: boy, Eli Harrison.
They chose not to find out…so I had bets on with a bunch of people that it’d be a boy.
It was a win/win with my other brother-the only way I’d have to pay him is if the baby was a hermaphrodite.
I’m no weather expert, but it looks like if they want to wait it out…the rain will stop by 9 or so.
Rain isin’t going to stop at all… they only hope it becomes lighter after 8:30 or so, but then it is supposed to pick up again sometime after 11
They are going to be playing in wet conditions today, if they play. There is no break in the rain.
Have you guys ever been to the Rogers Centre? Having a retractable roof gives a different feel to a game. Even when it is open, a portion of the seats obviously have to be under some sort of covering.
I’d rather have a few rainouts than have one.
Jeff- i agree. Aceves cant be a long man because he will be one of the best arms in the pen until bruney comes back. And his last start was amazing which really turned it around for him so far. I can see aceves and/or melancon pitching in the eighth to set up for mo right now. I mean who else is going to do it? The guys with eras over 6 right now who cant get an out. It has to be melancon, coke or aceves. i LOVE how people said today that melancon doesnt have the experience to setup for Mo in the eighth against the sox. Im thinking who in this bullpen actually has experience outside of mo, bruney and marte really?
Thas why i thought we needed another arm out of FA if nothing else but to have a little more experience in the pen just in case a situation like this arose. O course, people fought to the death over it with me talking about how amazing our pen was last year and my bullpens are extremely volatile argument got thrown out the window. Remember that whoever readers you were? I remember it was at least five different people who were railing on me for wanting another arm right after we had signed all of tex, cc and burnett. But thas always the thing with cash – he spends crazy amounts of money on the big fish which takes up almost the entire off-season and all his energy and then, forgets or never seems to do the smaller yet important moves like bolstering the pen and the bench and that hurts us every year at some point.
thanks Mo. Yankee game at 9…class at 8am? Yankee game tomorrow night. Finals start on Wednesday? Baseballllll
How do you computer Electrical/Computer Engineering and baseball? That is what I am going to spend my life doing as soon as I get out of school a year from now. I’m open to suggestions: jacknight@gmail.com
I dont know, Danny- the radar on all the weather sites shows just one storm.
They’ll probably start at around 9
That means the game will likely end at 1 AM
How do you combine, rather.**
Weather.com says 45% chance of “showers” from 9 PM to 1 AM
They’ll get the game in.
I don’t know how it is East of Manhattan College, but over here is basically drizzling. They really ought to just play a damn baseball game in this because it can’t get any lighter.
will: Doubt they call the game this early.
I love how Steve Phillips said that Ortiz will have a tough time against Hughes and Chamberlain because they are power pitchers who can run a hard fastball in on you
yeah.. I’m sure Ortiz is afraid of Hughes’ 91 MPH fastball lol… did he mean AJ?
wow – there is like fifty different opinions on here all about the exact same topic
soxchowdah
May 4th, 2009 at 6:38 pm
Damon must have the memory of a goldfish – Once around the tank and he thinks he’s in a whole new world. This is the same clown who chose money over remaining with the same team when he left the Red Sox for the Yankees. In retrospect, thank God he did. He’s always been a weak armed outfielder. Now he’s an overpaid one, and the Yankees bullpen ranks 12th in the AL with a 6.47 ERA in 64 innings yea that sucks Go Sox!
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Many thanks for the delusional post.
Enjoy boring Boston.
yanks 1978
Did you watch the first game hughes pitched? He was getting it up to 93 pretty consistently. Its not THAT fast but it sure does a lot to help hughes when he pitches in the majors.
Damon? You mean the same guy that has scored over 95 runs, batted over 275, stolen over 25 bases and averaged over 15 homers a year the last 3 years on the yanks while being the coolest guy on the team for always signing every autograph and lightening up the clubhouse. He was also terrible in center but pretty decent in left for a while which made things fine. Yea, i think he was worth the 13 mil a year as his hitting really didnt decline at all after leaving the sox. And the sox wouldnt pony up what? Another 2 mil a year for him or something ridiculously stupid like that. Pleaaase. He was well worth the money and when he helps us win the world series this year, he will be even more worth it IMO.
so when is this game starting
how about an update
regarding the weather??
Yea, Yu Conn if the sox sweep a two game series with the yanks at the beginning of May I dont think the yanks will ever recover. Getting arod and wang and bruney and marte and nady back will not quite do it to overcome that 3.5 games back deficit even with 5 months left to play. Your right – this is do or die for the yanks.
Gameday says “delayed: rain”
disappearing posts?
This stadium for the price needed a retractable roof. Seattle has one because it always rains there anybody who lives in NYC knows how much it rains in the spring, this is going to keep on happening.
ignore the trolls
Please ignore the trolls.
I have banned a few already. Please feel free to alert me to more. I’m going zero tolerance with stupid people. Enough is enough. I want the regulars to enjoy this blog, not be annoyed.
For people that think building a dome is practical….that would have cost a lot more than you think.
wa time da game gonna start??
“yeah.. I’m sure Ortiz is afraid of Hughes’ 91 MPH fastball lol”
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a) he can throw harder than 91 if he wants to. He appears to have sacrificed some velocity for movement which is a good thing.
b) Ortiz’s batspeed has come into question this season. He’s late on many fastballs thus far.
c) pay more attention before making comments and you won’t look like as much of a fool
It’s truly amazing, it really is, that Joba is pitching in the big leagues given his family situation and everything that has happened to him.
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Ahhhh… Thankfully this a story about Joba, so it can have a positive spin on it. Were it to be about A-Rod, he probably would be implicated in the sale of meth.
i looks like it might clear up in like 30 minutes.
Kazmir has already walked 2 with 0 outs
Philadelphians continue to eulogize Harry Kalas. Depending on when he dies, Michael Kay ought to get the same outpouring of gratitude and emotion.
I thought Joba was estranged from his mother?
I think he is estranged from her Uncle E
and Markakis with the 3-run hr…
“yeah.. I’m sure Ortiz is afraid of Hughes’ 91 MPH fastball lol”
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a) he can throw harder than 91 if he wants to. He appears to have sacrificed some velocity for movement which is a good thing.
b) Ortiz’s batspeed has come into question this season. He’s late on many fastballs thus far.
c) pay more attention before making comments and you won’t look like as much of a fool
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If David Ortiz is scared of/can’t hit a 91 mph fastball, he should get out of the big leagues- fast.
best case a-rod return is friday:
http://mlb.mlb.com/news/articl.....Id=rss_nyy
I think a roof would have been nice – worth the investment for sure. Think about how many times people have payed for parking, food, drinks, programs, gas, etc. just to head home after waiting two hours in the rain. Of course, the yanks probably see it as another one to make money so why would they try to eliminate that? I have lost all respect for the actual organizational bussinness aspect of the yanks and now believe there is almost nothing the organization wouldnt do to increase profits except to make the team worse (which would lower attendance and indirectly decrease profit anyway.)
After seeing the cost of tickets skyrocket, seeing all the best seats remain empty the first few weeks, trying to sit in a seat in the seventh in the tier and being blocked by security just because i needed a back to my seat is really what pushed more over the edge with them. Its one thing to block fans from getting into the field seats as they have done for years but hiring security to block fans from the empty seats in the “loge-like area” or the upper decks is just obscene esp in the 7th with half the stadium empty. Our additional ticket costs are paying for those extra guards in the upper deck too. My seats in the main didnt even have security last season.
“If David Ortiz is scared of/can’t hit a 91 mph fastball, he should get out of the big leagues- fast.”
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scared is the wrong word.
struggling is better. doesn’t mean he won’t turn it around. he’s coming off a bad wrist but you never know…
God, start this mother already. It’s annoying when drizzling causes the game to be delayed/postponed.
Poor Joba and his family. Even if they are estranged, she’s still mom.
Dave, have you ever been to a stadium that has a retractable roof?
If Ortiz was a Yankee, the media would have him one foot in the grave.
Actually, that’s not being fair. The tv & print guys have already questioned if Ortiz is done.
No score with Scranton. Russo is back playing and has a hit. Todd Linden continues to hit. Now at .367
Even if joba and his mom havent talked in 15 years, it would still be news in NY just like arod and a tooth brush
fyi – they are showing the Rays-Orioles on ESPN if you are intersested
Spiced Ham May 4th, 2009 at 7:20 pm
God, start this mother already. It’s annoying when drizzling causes the game to be delayed/postponed.
Like when they played in the drizzle in Chicago last year and Hughes hurt himself and Bruney hurt himself. No thanks, Ill take the extra day of rest for $500 Alex.
No, I dont think I ever have. Why? Is it no good?
Toronto cleveland
What about the regulars who annoy each other?
I have been to the stadium twice and found the view good both times. I was up in the lower part of the 300 level and had great views. I do agree that the prices of the lower section and the loge is absurd and eliminating the average fan and future generations of “real fans” from that experience.
solo hr: longoria
It’s no good. Different feel even when the stadium is open, as a portion of the field is still being covered by the roof. Its terrible when it is closed too. Plus, keep in mind, teams have to build their infield around the stadium. With the turf, the balls come very quick to the infield and its hard outfielders knees.
Real baseball is played under the sky.
“What about the regulars who annoy each other?”
You talking about anyone in particular or lots of people in general?
The rain system is starting to clear. This is the last of it. Looks like another 30-40 minutes.
Nick in SF….Taht’s allowed…Almost like family….
Lots of people in general, of course!
I think a fan poll at the stadium would say that most people wouldn’t want the roof. Well, if you asked them tonight, they’d probably say yes. But I think the sophisticated Yankee fan would tell you they’d rather not have the retr. roof. The roof would make it less true to the original in a dramatic way.
No determination till 8 via ESPN
CBS news (probably 60 Minutes) is in Charleston to do a video piece on Pat Venditte. No release/show date, yet.
It hasn’t even been raining for a while now. I bet my hat it won’t rain hard enough to affect the game, if it rains anymore at all!
From Kat’s blog: She was a beat writer in Texas so has a perspective that some other people wouldn’t on “The Book” and she said this:
“The one thing that struck me as odd, and it’s a very small thing in the scheme of the book, was the portrayal of him as close in Texas with Ivan Rodriguez, Rafael Palmeiro and Juan Gonzalez. That’s not the way I remember that at all.”
If Kat is right, sounds like Selena wanted to link all the PEDs users as buds.
pat
May 4th, 2009 at 7:38 pm
From Kat’s blog: She was a beat writer in Texas so has a perspective that some other people wouldn’t on “The Book” and she said this:
“The one thing that struck me as odd, and it’s a very small thing in the scheme of the book, was the portrayal of him as close in Texas with Ivan Rodriguez, Rafael Palmeiro and Juan Gonzalez. That’s not the way I remember that at all.”
If Kat is right, sounds like Selena wanted to link all the PEDs users as buds.
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Why does this not surprise me
http://www.weather.com/outlook.....irect=true
We just gotta wait a little bit more and then Hughesie will be able to get to work.
I hope.
John Maine just walked the bases loaded with 0 outs
“I think traditionally the long man was not the worst pitcher on the pitching staff, he was the sixth (or fifth back in the day) starter.”
Exactly. I had to leave when we were talking about the long man and there are far too many posts in between for me to catch up so I just wanted to go back to this and affirm it. Wave is right. Traditionally your long man was basically your 6th starter. Not a bad way to do business. Still my opinion.
Christina -
Safeco Field in Seattle is absolutely gorgeous and when the roof is retracted there is a wide-open feel. I was never in it while the roof was retracted though, but it’s totally different from the Rogers Centre.
Rogers Centre is just plain ugly. It helps when the roof is open, but it is closed all around and the field looks like a ratty green quilt. Safeco felt like a regular stadium.
I think probably one of the main reasons there is no retractable roof on Yankee Stadium was the desire to keep the stadium true to its original design, which probably limited the ability to design a practical and attractive roof. Not to mention the cost. And changing the whole feel of the stadium.
“how about an update
regarding the weather??”
it’s hard to say. where do you live?
have you tried sticking your head out the window?
I should add that Rogers Centre is cool with the hotel attached and all. Just ugly.
Is there any player who doesn’t admire our captain? Even our “hated” rival, Pedroia, has great respect for him.
I don’t agree w/ all the retractable roof fans…..for sunbelt/ franchise teams like Arizona, Houston, and TB it’s ok but I like having the ‘traditional baseball’ markets keep baseball outdoors all the time, cities like NYC, St. Louis, Chicago, and Boston; outdoor baseball is great, even the retractable roof has a different feel; it’s nice to have the cool nights and breezes effect October baseball as well, ghosts can’t blow a ball out w/ a controlled AC dome.
Random question, I wonder how many Rainouts the LA Dodgers or Angels have had the last few years? it never rains out there, wouldn’t be surprised if it was 1 max
“Is there any player who doesn’t admire our captain?”
Admiration is great but fear is more intimidating.
And Safeco has natural grass, not artificial surface. Totally totally different from Rogers. If the Yankees were starting from scratch, using Safeco as a template wouldn’t have been a bad idea. IMO.
Brett Marshall is showing great stuff so far. Two innings, 3 strikeouts and throwing 94-96 tonight. 93-94 consistantly.
Melky Mesa with a booming double into the left center gap, driving in the only run so far. 3rd inning.
Angelini has no errors.
can we pleas have some yankee baseball, im going through withdrawal
GB: Only the third though! Still plenty of time!
Plans for new parks for both Yankees and Mets was drawn out years ago and both stadiums originally had retractable roofs.
If you seen a picture of how the first new YS looked like you would be quite happy they didn’t go in that direction.
Hint: It looked like a spaceship.
I do think, though, that one of the neatest things in modern sports is the home stadium for the Arizona Cardinals. Real turf and a retractable roof that’s opened on a daily basis to get sun for the grass.
Lucas field has a retractable roof, but uses field turf. I think the Cowboys new stadium will have a retr. roof, not sure about the turf.
It never rains in Southern California… well hardly ever, which is why they have mud slides of epic proportions when they do get heay rain.
A retractable roof is fine if you want it, but I’m very happy the Yanks didn’t do such a thing. The Florida teams BOTH need a retractable dome stadium. Arizona’s was a must and Texas should too.
I think the self protective media has been way too critical of what Girardi said. He never said she didn’t have the right to write it, just that he didn’t like it or understand it. What’s wrong with that?
This book is getting worse reviews than “Ishtar”
“can we pleas have some yankee baseball, im going through withdrawal”
cold turkey is tough, that’s why God invented microwaves.
Spoke to soon about Marshall. 4 hits, 3 runs.
Is it just me or do the Yankees draw out their rain-out decisions longer than other teams?
Doreen- The only stadium I have been to with a retractable roof is the Rogers Centre, so perhaps I was generalizing all stadiums. I would love to visit Safeco Field. I will tell you though, it is terrible to be in that stadium when the roof is closed.
Yeah, whoever decides Yankee rain delays/postponements are stupid
Aunt Becca-Optimist Prime
May 4th, 2009 at 7:51 pm
GB: Only the third though! Still plenty of time!
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Somebody could make a ton of money if you could pick the game that Angelini DOESN’T make an error.
philly likes to make people wait a long time during rainouts. and they definitely like making the $$$ on parking so they rarely call a game before everyone gets there.
“The scoreboard camera is panning the crowd and some guy just flipped it off.”
At least the fans have brought some of the old stadium charm across the street. Francona had some pretty depressing comments about how much he like that the upper deck wasn’t right on top of the field.
Pat
The only everyday ballplayer who is feared is probably Pujols. But Jeter has 4 rings.
Fausto remembering that he’s stinks.
Will — what irritates you most: the long winters or socialized medicine? LOL
“Is it just me or do the Yankees draw out their rain-out decisions longer than other teams?”
They want the customers to buy as many hotdogs and beer as they can
will-Why do you hate Toronto?
“I would love to visit Safeco Field. I will tell you though, it is terrible to be in that stadium when the roof is closed.”
Safeco is great. Been there with the roof open and closed.
My “favorite” roof experience was Miller Park in Milwaukee.
Roof was closed and the people behind the 1st base dugout had umbrellas. Yup, the roof leaked.
With the news on Joba’s mother, I wonder if Selena Roberts will write a book about him complete with her expert psychoanalysis.
She’s a moron. I hate armchair mental health experts.
Markakis is really good…
2-0 Jays in th 3rd.
3-0 Braves in the 3rd.
DT, by “that stadium” I was refering to the Rogers Centre. Sorry, you would think I would have better sentence structure at this stage in my life.
Also, I didn’t realize the Brewers had a retractable roof. Funny how it was leaking, not sure how they let that one go.
YES just said still an indefinite rain delay
“Is it just me or do the Yankees draw out their rain-out decisions longer than other teams?”
Could it be that you pay attention when it is the Yankees as opposed to other teams?
Silly me, and here I thought the CN Tower was freaking you out.
Coming soon (2010): early-April rain & snow at the new roof-less Target Field in Minneapolis. & it’s a WHOOOOLLLLLE lot colder there in April than in NY…. or Cleveland or Detroit for that matter. Bet the Yanks get an April away series there before they go to Tampa.
Aaron Hill is on fire lately. Adam Lind too.
hell yeah fausto worked out of the jam
Jennifer — no, I actually see other teams call games much more quickly. The Yankees seem to squeeze every minute and concession dollar out of each night.
game should start around 9…later
zman- Don’t you recall how early they called the Oakland game?
i was just thinking: i hope a-rod doesn’t bring this 1 for 6 type average back up north.
and i also wonder: what type of outs are they?? scoring runs or stranding guys? GO – weak or hard? FO – deep or popups? SO – swinging or looking?
They should just call it right now. The mighty light drizzle is too much to handle.
I’ve tried to respond to Rebecca three times and the blog filter keeps eating my posts. It was off-topic, but not stupid, lol. So I give up.
they better not call this game until they know for a fact there is no window.
i hate when games are called and then u look and its barely raining
Game won’t be called until concessions hit their revenue goal. Drink up, fans.
“zman- Don’t you recall how early they called the Oakland game?”
I got to the stadium as they called the game. I got there around 4:30, so they called it a little early. A little pre mature too if you ask me
No, I don’t recall, sorry. It makes no difference to me, but if I’m a fan who arrives at 6:45 and I’m waiting 2+ hours, I might get a bit peeved.
“Is there any player who doesn’t admire our captain? Even our “hated” rival, Pedroia, has great respect for him.”
Rose, definitely don’t trust the forked-tongue evil elf Pedroia. He slobbered all over Jeter during the WBC and sucked Jete right in and when he got back to his team made the statement that he and Pedroia were as good as Jeter and Arod and that it made him mad that because they don’t have the same name recognition they don’t get the same attention paid to them.
Pedroia is a little crap with a big mouth – and obviously a hypocrite to boot.
They should have called the game earlier, if I was a fan sitting that park right now I would be irate.
Christina
I agree. The Rogers Centre with the roof closed is awful. Just awful. It’s kind of claustrophic – the way the air flows and the sound and all. Plus that artificial turf is distracting.
And even on a sunny day with the roof open, it’s just plain weird.
“i hope a-rod doesn’t bring this 1 for 6 type average back up north.”
If his presence helps Tex see better pitches and takes some pressure off him, I’d take that for a week or 2.
Why didn’t they invest in some kind of hydrophobic field?
I love how there are two guys behind home plate, in the stands of the Jays game, dressed in full umpire attire.
doesn’t luk like dey gonna play dis gamee
They won’t call the game till 10
They want to get as many people to buy Soda, beer, garlic fries, hot dogs, etc. as possible.
Also a lot of them will plan an early dinner in Hard Rock or Johnny Rockets that otherwise wouldn’t have been full with the Sox in town
Once they make some money, then the game will be called.
Doreen, I agree. But I will say this, the city of Toronto is gorgeous. I love it there.
They just had a rain delay yesterday, so they don’t really want two in a row because it screws things up later in the year.
They are going to wait this out as long as possible until they have no choice but to call it.
This isn’t just about concessions. Extra off days now means fewer off days later (and double headers) during the dog days of summer.
I don’t recall having so many rainouts/rain delays last season.
Austin Jackson’s having a tough night so far. 0-2, 2 strikeouts.
Pat — if A-Rod brings his 1-for-6 up north, he and Tex will be hitting about the same. Uggh.
If A-Rod brings his 3-24 slump up here, the crowd will make life hell for him.
Luckily, he comes back for some road games first.
yeah i must admit 1-6 is pretty sad against minor league
his slugging must be preeeeetty high tho
one good thing about a Monday Night Baseball rain delay: the carousel of games will circle around and around until it’s time to play the scheduled game haha. with fewer commercials and more interesting at-bats as they switch to games with potential scoring moments!
“DT, by “that stadium” I was refering to the Rogers Centre”
gotcha. yeah I like Rogers Centre (still call it Skydome myself) better with the roof open.
First game I ever went to at Skydome was the first year it opened. (back when the had packed houses)
I sat in the outfield and the hotel rooms were still being constructed. Only game I ever attended in which I had to deal with hammers and saws. My seat was right next to the hotel window and yes they were working during the game!
carmona had a great quick inning right there
Imagine if our #3 and #4 hitters are both hitting under .200 and getting booed every night?
$480 million doesn’t buy what it used to. And our rivals have guys like Pedroia and Cano making the league minimum who are MVP caliber
They just had a rain delay yesterday, so they don’t really want two in a row because it screws things up later in the year.
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Oops, of course that’s supposed to be:
They just had a rain out yesterday, so they don’t really want two in a row because it screws things up later in the year.
This isn’t about concessions.
They don’t want to have to play 29 or 30 games in June or July with no off days.
That’s not a good thing considering the age of this team.
pedroia and cano are making the league minimum?
Cano doesnt make the league min anymore.
“If A-Rod brings his 3-24 slump up here, the crowd will make life hell for him.”
The crowd will make hell for him anyway.. just like they always do..
“And our rivals have guys like Pedroia and Cano making the league minimum who are MVP caliber”
Umm, Victor, Cano is on our side, and neither he nor Pedroia makes anywhere near the league minimum.
Christina -
We visited Toronto last summer. It was great. The only bad thing was the traffic. Seemed to be traffic all the time!
I would definitely go again. Great restaurants and a lot to do.
even melky doesn’t make the league minimum
I don’t have any problem with the Yankees waiting this out – I agree, GF. Fans are always going to complain. If they call it early, fans will cry that they should have waited. If they call it late, then fans will complain that it was all about the $$. The Yankees can’t win……..and I’d rather have the days off later in the season. Fans with tickets have the option not to go to the game – what can you do? This is how mother nature operates
I don’t know why people assumed that A-Rod would just come in on his white horse, hit .320/40/130 and save the day.
He is coming off surgery, folks. As Pete pointed out, a 33 yr old former steroid user coming off surgery is not a lock to produce.
He may produce eventually, but don’t expect miracles from him especially early on.
“Pedroia is a little crap with a big mouth – and obviously a hypocrite to boot.”
Trisha, tell us how you really feel about him…
Of course, Streisand never sang about our 2B –
“What’s it all about Elf-ie.”
well said Betsy
So I’m all for waiting it out but I can’t see how they play unless they wait till 11 at least…
yeah i must admit 1-6 is pretty sad against minor league
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Good grief.
He hasn’t seen live pitching regularly for two months. His health is more important than his numbers.
It took Manny Ramirez awhile to get his stroke back as well and he only missed a few weeks of Spring Training.
Looks like Marshall got out of the jam in the 4rth.
They’re going to start the game when it rains anyway.
Interestingly enough, Arod was doing very well until the publicity for the CFTBL’s book was announced, along with some of the excerpts. Coincidence? I’d say not.
“Why didn’t they invest in some kind of hydrophobic field?”
They wouldn’t have needed to use public bond assistance if they had invested in a hydroponic field.
DT
May 4th, 2009 at 8:20 pm
“Pedroia is a little crap with a big mouth – and obviously a hypocrite to boot.”
Trisha, tell us how you really feel about him…
Of course, Streisand never sang about our 2B –
“What’s it all about Elf-ie.”
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That would have been Cilla Black, but, I’m impressed that you know the song or who Streisand is. Damned…you’re a geezer just like Trader and Uncle Ellsworth.
DT – I loathe hypocrites and people who play both sides of the street. At least with people who come straight at you you always know what they’re thinking. Pedroia has a big mouth. Some day he’ll learn to shut it. Or he won’t.
While we wait:
Magic vs. Celtics Game 1 is on tnt
Oh, the Zen of Bobby V is on MSG. I wanted to watch that.
The Yankees would be smart to postpone the game until later in the season when A-Rod is back in the lineup and somewhat healthy. On that note, lets postpone the entire series.
I just wonder what this does for the staff. I’d love to see Hughes go again regardless.
Actually GB, that would be Dionne Warwick…
Johnny D.
May 4th, 2009 at 8:12 pm
Why didn’t they invest in some kind of hydrophobic field?
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Who in their right mind would invest in a field with rabies?
The weather is supposed to suck for tomorrow, too. It stinks, but I don’t want any players getting hurt.
I think Phil will be skipped if this gets called and if tomorrow’s gets called, then probably Joba as well.
the pedroia mlb 09 commercial is stupid…glad it’s hardly ever on anymore
Let me tell you, I was there yesterday. It was chilly and damp. By the time they called the game, people were blowing smoke rings with their breath. I imagine it’s worse tonight. At some point soon, they will have to call the game if there is no guarantee that five innings can be completed.
As to Rogers Centre– a great city makes up for a bad ball park. At least on a nice night, from the first base side, you can watch the CN tower elevators go up and down in a nice color show.
Miller Field is a dump. It looks like a warehouse in person. It looks better on TV than it is.
Safeco this season. I hope I get it with the roof open.
Interestingly enough, Arod was doing very well until the publicity for the CFTBL’s book was announced, along with some of the excerpts. Coincidence? I’d say not.
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I don’ think that nonsense has anything to do with it. This isn’t the first time there’s been controversy surrounding him.
He actually played very well the first week of ST with the Yanks and that was immediately following his steroid admission and press conference.
He’s got to be used to that mess by now.
Trisha, it doesn’t matter how many hits Alex gets – it only matters that he stays healthy and gets his cuts in…….
Any chance play?
“That would have been Cilla Black, but, I’m impressed that you know the song or who Streisand is. Damned…you’re a geezer just like Trader and Uncle Ellsworth.”
I could have said Joss Stone… but I feel retro today.
Cilla was UK version… this isn’t a Manchester United crowd!
ish not raining hear in queens
GB, never knew Cilla Black recorded it. I’m impressed.
trisha – click to see my bigger and better Opening Day pictures
May 4th, 2009 at 8:25 pm
Actually GB, that would be Dionne Warwick…
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So did Cher, but, Black had the first hit and the soundtrack.
“In 1966, Black recorded the Bacharach-David song “Alfie”, inspired by the film, Alfie. While the song was not included on the UK film version, Cher sang “Alfie” on the closing credits of the US version. Also, Alfie became a hit for Dionne Warwick in the States, but it was a major hit for Black in the UK, reaching #9 on the British charts. Cilla’s version of “Alfie” was arranged and conducted by Bacharach himself at the recording session at Abbey Road. Bacharach insisted on several takes, and Black cited the Alfie recording session as one of the most demanding of her recording career. For Bacharach’s part, he said “…there weren’t too many white singers around which could convey the emotion that I felt in many of the songs I wrote but that changed with people like Cilla Black…” [2]
Groucho- You are so right. The colors coming from the CN Tower at night are quite a sight. Thank goodness for that tower though. Since I generally walk to the stadium from my hotel, I use that as my guide to determine if I am walking in the right direction. I am the queen of getting lost.
Side note: Brian Tallet has a no hitter going right now.
They should be able to get this game in looking at the radar. Doesn’t look like the rain is to bad at this point anymore. I say game time should be around 9:30
These dopes should just call it already.
Betsy, I totally agree with you.
Franco, I dsiagree with you on this one. Alex went through hell over the steroid crap. Can you imagine the anticipation of an entire book about his life, and then to hear that pitch tipping was part of the book? Oh no, he hasn’t been socked with anything like this.
I am hoping that he will acclimate quickly. But since Selig has been answering questions about whether or not MLB will do an investigation into this other stuff, it can’t be a comfortable place for him no matter what. Arod is someone who wants to be liked and accepted. This has to be an extremely bitter pill for him to swallow. Add to it the advice he is getting now, answer, don’t answer. And then he knows the most “loyal” journalists of all, the buzzards in the NY press, are flying in circles waiting for his return.
Hypocrites and people who play both sides of the street are the worst! Grrrr, they just make me fume. I can’t stand them. They make me want to plotz!
The Bacharach/David song “Alfie” was actually performed by Cher (future Arod girlfriend?) in the film itself, then covered by Cilla Black, and even later covered by Dionne Warwick, among many others.
No word on which version was preferred by Shecky Green.
interesting that the issue Pedroia’s brother had with the law was never reported by ESPN but Joba’s family issues are
Boston is ESPN’s baby girl.
Anyone planning on making a trip to Turner Field or Dolphins Stadium in later June whe nthe Yanks visit for interleague?
Toronto isn’t going anywhere – it doesn’t matter about the injuries, they are getting contributions from everywhere, both hitting and pitching. They’ve been very consistent, beating up on teams they should be beating on.
“James
May 4th, 2009 at 8:36 pm
Anyone planning on making a trip to Turner Field or Dolphins Stadium in later June whe nthe Yanks visit for interleague?
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I might go to the series at Dolphins Stadium
“Side note: Brian Tallet has a no hitter going right now.”
Christina, cool that you waited til the 6th to mention it. That is a true baseball fan!
“The Yankees haven’t lost a game this year because of their lack of a longman. ”
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SJ44, I don’t think it’s unreasonable to say that a longman would have helped the bullpen in a big way during Wang’s 3 starts. Does that indirectly lead to another win? Perhaps.
It’s not enough to warrant a longman as a general rule but in the case of the Yankees so far, particularly due to Wang, they may have indeed lost a game or two because their bullpen was exhausted.
“Interestingly enough, Arod was doing very well until the publicity for the CFTBL’s book was announced, along with some of the excerpts. Coincidence? I’d say not.”
He’s only played 3 rehab games and they have all been since news of the book came out so I’m not sure what coincidence you are speaking of.
It’s just about clear. Game should start a little after 9:00. And end at 1:00 am…..
“No word on which version was preferred by Shecky Green.”
Green preferred Black. Colors have each others back.
Trisha,
I guess we’ll agree to disagree. This isn’t A-Rod’s first circus. He came out smoking in ST and that was immediately after the steroid stuff.
I also seem to recall the pictures of him on the front page of the tabloids with that stripper in Toronto a couple of years ago and he just went and out hit the tar out of the ball.
This is nothing new for him so he should be used to it. I don’t think it’s going to have much effect on him at all.
Boston Dave, I agree. You have to adapt to reality – I was fine with no long man coming out of ST, but Wang destroyed the pen by himself and the SP in general has been utterly mediocre. There were games (Tampa, Cleveland as examples) where we could have used someone to eat innings. That said, Aceves wasn’t pitching well enough (well actually, he was pitching very badly) to merit a call up and Tomko is being used as a closer…….
No hitter through 6 for Tallet…
Some AL scores:
Det 2 Min 0 bottom 6th.
Bal 4 TB 3 Bottom 5th.
KC 1 CWS 0 Bottom 2nd
Toronto isn’t going anywhere – it doesn’t matter about the injuries, they are getting contributions from everywhere, both hitting and pitching. They’ve been very consistent, beating up on teams they should be beating on.
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Yeah, I still don’t see Toronto as anything special. They will fold soon enough.
Keep in mind that they haven’t played anyone in the AL East yet outside of three games against the O’s.
They’ve done all their damage against AL Central opponents. They are going to be a fourth place team.
Is black a color or the lack of color? I forger. I guess if we’re talking singers, crayons, and paint, it’s a color.
The only other Cilla Black song I can think of off the top of my head is the Paul McCartney-written “Step Inside Love”.
DT – I loathe hypocrites and people who play both sides of the street. At least with people who come straight at you you always know what they’re thinking. Pedroia has a big mouth. Some day he’ll learn to shut it. Or he won’t.
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He won’t.
But it won’t be hard to tell if he starts doing roids.
Betsy,
The Yankees couldn’t have forseen the immediate need for a longman to start the season.
But I tend to prefer having one of the roster for the first few weeks until you see how things shape up, especially with younger guys in the bullpen. You hope you don’t need one but it’s an insurance policy should everything not go as planned… and as we all know, it usually never does.
I have heard Dolphin Stadium is terrible for baseball. Any truth to that?
ooh, since we’re all waiting for the game, let’s jinx the Toronto no-hitter. Where’s Michael Kay when we need him?
“UPDATE, 7:48 p.m. The grounds crew is mulling around the field. But the tarp remains on and it’s still raining.
The scoreboard camera is panning the crowd and some guy just flipped it off.
UPDATE, 8:19 p.m.: Still raining, tarp still down, grounds crew no longer mulling around.”
Sorry to be nitpicky but the expression is “milling around” not “mulling around”. But I do hope they are mulling over the idea of taking the tarp off.
Good job. “Michael Kay” has jinxed again.
“But it won’t be hard to tell if he starts doing roids.”
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he’s already bald.
Brady Anderson didn’t look huge and he still hit 50HR. It’s not always obvious. I’m far from an expert, but it seems like people make a ton of assumptions about steroids that aren’t always accurate.
The problem with that theory, GF, is that the Yankees had trouble with Baltimore and Cleveland and Toronto is toying with them. I don’t think the Jays are going to go in the toilet by playing the other AL East teams……but I guess we’ll see. I certainly hope you’re right – the East is tough enough without the Jays causing trouble.
Tallet just lost the no-hitter.
looks like it’s over – unless that was an error
No-hitter gone. Jinx works EVERY time.
“SJ44, I don’t think it’s unreasonable to say that a longman would have helped the bullpen in a big way during Wang’s 3 starts. Does that indirectly lead to another win? Perhaps.
It’s not enough to warrant a longman as a general rule but in the case of the Yankees so far, particularly due to Wang, they may have indeed lost a game or two because their bullpen was exhausted.”
Boston Dave, I hadn’t seen that post by SJ. I agree with you and respectfully say to SJ that I think it’s much easier to make a case for possible losses due to lack of a long man than to unequivocally state the Yankees have not lost any games due to lack of a longman. That’s a pretty big leap of faith by SJ under the circumstances. What happened with Wang is the perfect situation for a long man. Cobbling together innings is the least optimal thing to do to a bullpen, especially doing it on too many occasions. When you see Edwar Ramirez throw 54 pitches on two separate occasions you know there’s something wrong.
The last time I can remember seeing long relief work its magic was when Igawa went in for Rasner against the Red Sox in the second inning of a game and pitched a beauty. Igawa was the long man in the pen.
I think the teams that have a long reliever are the smartest teams of all. And as Wave smartly pointed out, your long man can also be used in middle or short relief when necessary.
Hey! Matt LaPorta hit a home run!
no hitter, gone
shut out, gone
tie score
Scranton, down 5-4 in the 6th. Jackson led of the 6th with a single, but Eric Duncan hit into a DP. E. Duncan also has an error that cost 3 runs. His defense at third isn’t good and now, his average is dropping to about .275.
no hitter-gone
shutout-gone
lead-gone
Poor Brian Tallet. And doesn’t it often happen that way. Bad things happen once the no hitter is lost.
Do you guys see the two people behind home plate wearing the umpire gear.. its killing me- especially when tallet records a strike out.
BD, I actually thought the Yankees should have taken one, but I also liked that Alby made the team. Aceves pitched horribly in ST, so there was no way he could make the team. Tomko would have been the choice – what was the point of inviting him to camp if he never really had the chance? Now they’re using him as a closer, which doesn’t help the big league team at all.
No hitter and shutout gone on 2 pitches.
LaPorta hits a 2 run homer for Cleveland. Tie game
Just like that Tallet is falling apart…
Just got a text, 9.20 start.
and now Tallet is imploding
welcome to the big leagues laporta
tallet lol
Wow, Tallet has now completely lost the plot. Ha.
9:20 first pitch.
It’s gonna be a long night.
9:20 first pitch
“I think the teams that have a long reliever are the smartest teams of all. And as Wave smartly pointed out, your long man can also be used in middle or short relief when necessary.”
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You might not need a longman all season, IMO, but when you’re still figuring out what you have in terms of the bullpen as well as having a couple new pitchers and a young guy like Joba, it’s not a bad idea to start out with one.
If the pitchers are all going 7 and the bullpen is lights out after the first month or so, you can send him down or trade him.
If not, you’re better suited to handle a 1-inning dud from your starter without taxing the bullpen as severely.
Start the game already. It’s pretty clear now.
I hate to say this, but I want the Jays to lose, so this is not an instance where I was rooting for the no-hitter. Go Tribe!
No one had a more painful no-hitter/perfect game lost than Mike Mussina. I have since cursed all potential no-hitters that are non-Yankee related.
UPDATE, 8:48 p.m.: They’re starting to pull the tarp. Get a Red Bull, its going to be a long night.
UPDATE, 8:51 p.m.: First pitch at 9:20.
tallet is getting owned this inning
“Is black a color or the lack of color? I forget. I guess if we’re talking singers, crayons, and paint, it’s a color.”
It’s in my Crayola box between Bittersweet and Blizzard Blue.
It comes in handy at Halloween when I combine it with my Arod Orange.
Cilla Black was born with the name Priscilla Maria Veronica White. Now that’s one mixed up lady.
go cleveland, go
I agree with part of what SJ44 was eluding to…
that if your starters do their jobs, the longman isn’t a big deal.
Getting all 5 to do their jobs isn’t the safest assumption though.
lol there goes the tie
WEST COAST GAME IN NEW YORK
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
9:20 start for a Yanks/Red Sox? Prepare to go to bed at 2 AM.
Thanks Rishi.
I’ve been debating whether it’s best for hte Yankees to play this game or not.
I think they’ll be a better team later in the season… but the Sox could be as well. Still, getting ARod back, a warmed up Tex and CC, and hopefully an improved bullpen would help.
carmona settled down really well since those 2 runs, hopefully wedge doesnt pull him like a fool
I’m gonna need to make some coffee
Here she is doing some primo lip syncing:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....re=related
aunt becca – first, congrats! second, where do you get text updates from? yankees or just a friend at the game? i’ve been looking to get good updates on the yanks for awhile now. thanks.
At the rate the Sox/Yanks play. 2am sounds about right. I hate ESPN.
I’m sure the NY media will spin the joba mom story so that by the end of the week there is a chorus of Yankee fans saying he never even knew he had a mother and was always told that he was a miracle baby who’s dad still had the baby fat to prove it.
After all he was a godsend after like 3 big league innings and godsends do not drink and drive or have parents who sell meth. Fact.
Guys, just pretend it’s a game out on the West Coast. Maybe in Oakland, because Anaheim depresses me. =)
timo
May 4th, 2009 at 8:48 pm
“UPDATE, 7:48 p.m. The grounds crew is mulling around the field. But the tarp remains on and it’s still raining.
The scoreboard camera is panning the crowd and some guy just flipped it off.
UPDATE, 8:19 p.m.: Still raining, tarp still down, grounds crew no longer mulling around.”
Sorry to be nitpicky but the expression is “milling around” not “mulling around”. But I do hope they are mulling over the idea of taking the tarp off.
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He meant to say that fans were mulling the over the idea of whether to start milling around.
dont watch ESPN, watch the YES feed
This is ridiculous that they’re waiting so long to call the game. Even if the game starts by 9:30, with these 2 teams it’ll be 2am by the time the game ends without any further delays. They should have called the game by 8:00, scheduled a doubleheader for tomorrow, and if that doesn’t happen, schedule TWO doubleheaders in August. That field condition is going to be HORRENDOUS in the outfield.
He meant to say that fans were mulling over the idea of whether to start milling around.
thunder: My friends at the game. About three of them. And then ESPN just said it.
“UPDATE, 8:51 p.m.: First pitch at 9:20.”
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ugh, I’m camping at Yosemite and quiet hours start at 10pm (PST). We need to be in our tents by then…
Boston/Yanks though… I wonder how much the citation would be
pat not talking about the rehab games.
Giuseppe – the hookers etc. aren’t the problem. Neither, do I think, are the allegations of steroids in high school. But tipping pitches to the opposition (not that I believe it) is a serious allegation. I’ll be interested to see how he fields the question since you know the NY press has been going nonstop on adrenaline just waiting to be able to pounce with that question.
“But I tend to prefer having one of the roster for the first few weeks until you see how things shape up, especially with younger guys in the bullpen. You hope you don’t need one but it’s an insurance policy should everything not go as planned… and as we all know, it usually never does.”
Boston Dave, again I totally agree. And the Yanks’ history is the best reason in the world to go with it. Oh well.
But my position should delight the posters who have been so upset that they feel I never disagree with the Yankee organization.
And to answer the next question, no it’s not the first time. Most recently it had to do with Andy Pettitte. In the past it has had to do with David Cone and also Roger Clemens, to mention a few. Though I don’t know what my agreement with or disagreement with Yankee policy has to do with the price of tomatoes – or anything else.
Didn’t realize YES was carrying today’s game too. thx!
Hear hear! Too bad I don’t have any Red Bull
quit cryin nj23nut, how is playing a double header a smarter idea than playing late?
I’m just hoping the weather semi holds up so no one gets hurt!
“Safeco Field in Seattle is absolutely gorgeous and when the roof is retracted there is a wide-open feel.”
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I agree! But then I’m a bit biased
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“Safeco this season. I hope I get it with the roof open.”
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You likely will. It’s ‘retracted’ much more often than not (that’s why, IMO, it’s the best of both worlds). One of the local papers used to keep a running tally of “extended” (closed) vs. “retracted” (open) – so far in this short season I believe it’s only be extended once (this past Saturday). Looking like tonight will be the second time…
BD, true, but the Yankees are going to need as many days off as possible later in the year. Tomorrow may be rained out as well – we don’t want to lose those scheduled days off or have to play too many DH.
I’m just concerned about injury at this point, esp. Phil. I hate playing in such god-awful conditions….
The problem with that theory, GF, is that the Yankees had trouble with Baltimore and Cleveland and Toronto is toying with them. I don’t think the Jays are going to go in the toilet by playing the other AL East teams……but I guess we’ll see. I certainly hope you’re right – the East is tough enough without the Jays causing trouble.
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Toronto’s play against Baltimore and Cleveland means nothing compared to how the Yanks fared against them.
Sabathia and Wang pitched four of those games and both were terrible.
Sabathia couldn’t throw a fastball for a strike to save his life on Opening Day and had no command during the Stadium opener. That will certainly turn around.
Wang was historically bad to start the season and two of his three starts were against the Tribe and O’s.
Toronto does have some youngsters in the rotation and the league doesn’t really have a book on them yet. The league will make adjustments and they will then have to make further adjustments to continue to get hitters out.
I’m not a believer in Toronto at all. They will come down to earth.
“Guys, just pretend it’s a game out on the West Coast. Maybe in Oakland, because Anaheim depresses me. =)”
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Thanks for that Becca… =P
02h20…ugh.
*needs more than Red Bull*
Christina-
I have heard Dolphin Stadium is terrible for baseball. Any
truth to that?
How bad can it be if you can sit wherever you want, for cheap, and the players can actually hear you yell at them?
I think it’s bad primarily because of the revenue situation.
“I’m not a believer in Toronto at all. They will come down to earth.”
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If Toronto had a healthy Marcum and McGowan, I might disagree…
but they don’t so I don’t.
Boston Dave: get back to Visalia, fast!
Red Bull? Check.
Vodka? Check.
Let’s do this.
Thank god for basbeall.
Thank god the game got postponed. I have two finals coming up, so i am stuck in the library. But by the time I finish studying, the game will still be on and I will be able to watch Philly Franchise.
Lets Go Yankees
Screw my accounting and econ final
Evolution, thanks for mentioning ESPN! You can bet that between them and their sister organization, the Red Sox, I’d rather watch ESPN – though not by a ton!
“No one had a more painful no-hitter/perfect game lost than Mike Mussina. I have since cursed all potential no-hitters that are non-Yankee related.”
Scorpio, being the human sponge I cried for quite a long time that night thinking of how Mike Mussina had to be feeling. That no hitter killed my soul.
Giuseppe – the hookers etc. aren’t the problem. Neither, do I think, are the allegations of steroids in high school. But tipping pitches to the opposition (not that I believe it) is a serious allegation. I’ll be interested to see how he fields the question since you know the NY press has been going nonstop on adrenaline just waiting to be able to pounce with that question.
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What A-Rod should do is refuse to talk about any of that garbage.
If he doesn’t talk about it – the media will get the hint sooner or later and the story goes away.
I just hope he keeps saying “no comment.” There’s nowhere for the story to go after that.
ahhh the phillies blech!!! i can see those games anytime living here…i hate when they get on espn hahaha
If Toronto had a healthy Marcum and McGowan, I might disagree…
but they don’t so I don’t.
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Agreed.
And knowing that Marcum and McGowan are nowhere near returning is why I’m not a believer in that team.
Plus, they have historically had a lot of injuries over the last several years. That team just can’t stay healthy enough to stay afloat.
and cleveland gives back the lead
“Boston Dave: get back to Visalia, fast!”
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haha, I stayed there for a couple days while I was at Sequoia/Kings Canyon…
I liked that much better than the surrounding area here.
I’ll be back to civilization (if you can call it that)in Berkeley by Thursday.
I always root for a no hitter unless it’s against the Yankees or a Red Sox pitcher is pitching.
Would any of you (all of you) root against a Mets pitcher if he was pitching a no hitter?
Venditte now pitching. Tomorrow, I’ll try sending the game info from the park if it’s not raining. Game starts at 11:00 AM.
CompassRosy -
Do you live the Seattle area?
My brother lived in Sammamish for a couple of years and we got to visit his family there. He told me that it’s not really true that Seattle is always rainy. And my husband had been their for business a few times and it never rained when he went. My brother told me February is when it really rains, but otherwise it’s not that bad.
Unfortunately his company unexpectedly moved them again – this time to Ohio. Not exactly a fair exchange!
Corey-I have a presentation for my Literacy class that I have yet to start and is due tomorrow. Hopefully the game doesnt distract me too much. I could have been doing it for the past 2 hours I guess, but reading a blog seemed more worth my time.
Btw, an econ final sounds horrid. Good luck.
Hell yeah! We’re getting baseball!
No Trisha. Seeing a no-hitter is a great thing, regardless of the team.
geez, Cleveland sucks.
GF – my only fear with “no comment” especially with Kruk spinning out of control about the allegation, is that it will be read as an affirmation.
Well, we’ll just have to wait and see how Arod handles it.
Pitching right handed. first batter, single on a curve.
Pitching left handed. Strikes out the batter on three sliders.
(Charleston is play the low A League team for Boston.)
Trisha: I root for ANY pitcher throwing a no hitter, even a Red Sox, unless they’re pitching against the Yankees.
Stadium looks great at night!
Ken Singleton is such a pimp. Look at the ring. Look at the way he holds the mic. That haircut. I want to be Ken.
Can somebody please tell me if the game is still on ESPN despite the delay?
Thanks.
“No Trisha. Seeing a no-hitter is a great thing, regardless of the team.”
Christina, I totally agree. And truth be told, I have had ambivalence on the very few occasions that Red Sox pitchers have been in the position to throw a no hitter (the ones that I’ve watched) because it is an amazing accomplishment so you have a grudging respect in the case of a team you cannot stand (and then if you’re me you immediately find everything wrong with it that you can!)
“GF – my only fear with “no comment” especially with Kruk spinning out of control about the allegation, is that it will be read as an affirmation.
Well, we’ll just have to wait and see how Arod handles it.”
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trisha, honestly, is there anything ARod can realistically say that would make people believe him anyway?
It’s not realistic or a good idea, IMO, to keep this fiasco going on and on. That’s what Roberts would love, I’m sure.
Go with the “I already came forward and spoke with Peter Gammons. What I said was true. I have no further comment.”
Cleveland sucks… but they did take 2 of 4 from us and embarrassed our pitching/bullpen
And the two games we won required rallies against the same horrible pen that Toronto is beating up on now
Jebus Christ, good luck Phil, 2 Hr. set back he’s going to need it.
Stev, that is a yes.
CompassRosy –
Do you live the Seattle area?
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Born and bred, Doreen.
I’m not sure of the exact statistics, but I think NYC actually gets a few more inches of total rainfall per year than Seattle. We just have a lot more “gray days”.
I guess it can get pretty dreary in the fall/winter (so my California friends who visit tell me) I guess I’m just used to it and it makes the sunny ones that much nicer …
July through August = gorgeous
Don’t have a good feeling at all about this game.
They might come out lethargic after over 2 days without baseball and Lester is a tough pitcher and a lefty against our B lineup.
thanks
Yeah, taking finals suck. However, try having to grade 50 8-10 page freshman comp papers.
good luck Phil.
Let’s hope the long delay and rainy/wet conditions don’t affect him.
I can’t kill him if he doesn’t do well… this game shouldn’t even be played.
Raining again. Actually pouring. Players don’t look happy.
That should have read…
July through October = gorgeous
Any word on why Montero was taken out of the game in Tampa. Fryer is no catching. Romine is the DH.
Wow, how are they going to play in this weather?
wowza how are they playing in this? its pouring
Tom, you could make the papers shorter then
why in the world are they starting this game….
Nervous for Phil again. Let’s go Hughesie!
You’re just asking for an injury trying to play through this….
so you know the rain will taper off by the time Lester has to pitch…I feel like the rain demons do that a lot
This is crazy, it’s raining not drizzling! This is all ESPN driven. Watch players get sick and/or injured.
This could be a HUGE mistake by Girardi if Hughes gets rocked. On the other hand, if Hughes excels, then it could be a HUGE confidence boost
they should have started this game 2:20 minutes ago
Already too many sox fans there. Oh joy.
Look at all those umbrellas…at this point they have to play through as if we have another delay I don’t see them completing the game at all.
Doppler shows a window from Central Jersey through the DC area once this rain passes through.
Not giving the outside corner. Longer night now.
Yikes, looks nasty outside
Hey Sis!!!!
Not until I have tenure, Christina.
Chicago is the city that should have a retractable roof.
Someday I’m going to try to reasearch it, but I SWEAR, every year, the M’s are rained out there….
It already happened this year – luckily, they were able to play a double-header the next day (since it was the M’s only visit to Chicago this season)
5 pitches, 1 out
let’s really hope this weather doesn’t spoil hughes’ start
Those first two pitches to Ellsbury were very good – just missed.
“This could be a HUGE mistake by Girardi if Hughes gets rocked.”
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Hughes is a big boy. He can handle a loss (if that is in fact what happens).
I was originally thinking it was smart to hold Hughes out solely to keep his innings down, but I’m warming up to the idea of letting Hughes know that they have full confidence in him.
Phil’s fastball no less than 93 that whole at bat to ellsbury, topped out at 95 according to gameday.
How come on YES you can hear all the boo’s to the Sox players, but on ESPN you dont hear anything other than the commentators? Lol
Hmmm, maybe I was hasty in saying that ESPN is preferable to NESN!
Gameday has Hughes’ fastball consistently at 93 mph with that last pitch to Ellsbury at 95 mph.
Good sign right there. I know velocity is not important but a lot of us were concerned last year when he was only 89-91 mph.
Is gameday right ? I’m reading 95 ?
does anybody have the early Gameday radar gun readings?
ESPN is showing 93-94.
It’s just a few pitches… but I’m more concerned with calibrating ESPN’s gun vs MLB.com.
Hey yourself, Sis!
How’s that fantasy team going?
Someone earlier mentioned Lind and Hill…
I’m lucky enough to have both of them on my roster (unfortunately, my SS and several of my pitchers suck)
yay the MLB package is carrying the YES feed so i don’t have to watch ESPN!!!
The difference between the 2008 Phil Hughes and the 2009 Phil Hughes is night and day.
Downhill action, late zip, confident demeanor. Its very encouraging.
Gameday has hughes fastball, 95, 93, 91..
ugh walk
Venditte pitching left handed. groundout. strikeout on slider.
Pitching right handed. strikeout on a curveball.
Come on Phil
I’d rather have Hughes locating at 90 than missing at 95, however.
I hope he’s not overthrowing because he is thinking this is a bigger game than it really is.
I have a bad feeling Ortiz’ first HR comes tonight
Hughes is forcing it and overthrowing.
Bring it down to 92 and throw strikes and you’ll be ok!
“Ken Singleton is such a pimp. Look at the ring. Look at the way he holds the mic. That haircut.”
that’s pretty liberal usage of the word ‘hair’. I’m not sure it’s entirely organic.
Phil getting behind on all the hitters
“Coming soon (2010): early-April rain & snow at the new roof-less Target Field in Minneapolis. & it’s a WHOOOOLLLLLE lot colder there in April than in NY…. or Cleveland or Detroit for that matter”
Actually it hasn’t been that cold here this April/May – days especially have been really nice. We’ve also had for weeks now and it seems like we’ve had much less rain than the northeast.
Gonna be a long night for Phil.
Sis I will email you a link to my team. I typically reside comfortably in 10th place out of 10.
Well rain delay is effecting him
trisha
The more questions Alex answers, the more questions he will be asked. “No comment” is the best way to go.
Youk- Toughest out in the AL?
After a two and a half hour rain delay, give the kid some time to settle in!
yucky start
Wow, ugh……….
blah !
Good decision Joe..
Should have just had Aceves pitch
Greatest defensive catcher huh?
damnit already…ugh!
Pass ball..that slider should’ve been caught.
How was that a wild pitch? It didn’t even touch the dirt.
“EvoLuTioN
May 4th, 2009 at 9:00 pm
quit cryin nj23nut, how is playing a double header a smarter idea than playing late?”
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Well for one, the field is in better shape and the chance of a player getting injured is less. Plus, hopefully A-Rod, Tex, CC and AJ will all be at the top of their game by then. These conditions are just a disaster waiting to happen. Look at what happened the other night against the Halos when it was pouring while Andy was pitching? The Yanks are lucky he didn’t get hurt pitching in that muck.
Phil said to youk “here, hit it.”
just get out of this inning with limited damage
“Greatest defensive catcher huh?”
Um, yes. One mistake doesn’t change that.
why the HELL wasn’t this game called?
passed ball run scores..then he K’s Youk.. that is tough luck!
Should be an unearned run..that was NOT hughes fault that he scored.
Thanks Molina
Phil looking good striking out Youk………I’m very encouraged by him so far despite the run……….
This ump has a tight strike zone. First pitch to Drew was a strike.
Hughes’ stuff is nasty tonight. Molina just needs to hold onto it
Jose has to have that!
how many pitches ?
Sis – I do have Phil Hughes on my Fantasy Team though!
Also Russell Branyon. Think that’s a smart move?
Hughes looks good.. that passed ball hurts, but Phil does look nasty so far
STRIKE 3 NUM NUTS!
come on Ump.
23 pitches so far
This ump sucks – Phil is NOT getting any of these pitches
com’on ring him up there blue
Come on should have been a k.
Ump is squeezing the heck outta Hughes
Two Strike threes..he better squeeze Lester also.
Way to squeeze him.
this ump is like a NUN
i guess this ump enjoys the rain, he’s really squeezing hughes
Hughes just got jobbed on the hook to Drew
I can’t watch this…gross
Hmmmmm. That looked like a strike to me. In fact two of them did.
What an a.. WHERE IS YOUR STRIKE ZONE JACK…!
I’m watching this game on TV and following it on Gameday. Gameday shows the strike zone in a little box. two of the pitches that were called balls on Drew were IN the strike zone box.
This ump is a joke. He is costing Hughes 10 pitches, and these pitches are clearly strikes.
HP ump looks like a shrimp next to molina haha
this ump needs to eat a gigantic bag of carrots
He’ll be over 30 pitches in the first.
That was unfortunate, but you have to put up with Molina’s defense if you want to enjoy his offense.
Guarantee Lester gets all of these calls that Hughes is not
Hughes getting squeezed big time.
hughes is gunna be a superstar. his fastball is by far the best weve ever seen it
28 pitches
Wow Hughes threw five strikes to that batter.
2.5 hr game delay though does hurt, but he gets out of this.. I hate Bay!.. He will never replace Manny
Despite the high pitch count, I love how Phil looked…….
Figure if Molina held onto that pitch, this game is still 0-0.
Why is the ump squeezing him??
Not the best inning, but anyone who gave up on this kid is fouling themselves, that type of stuff is why he was the #1 pitching prospect in the minors.
of course lester will get the calls, its an espn game they love “the nation”
Normally the YES announcers, although homers, don’t criticize the umps but tonight they’re saying he’s tight, a hitters ump. We’ll see if that’s the same for Lester.
I hope the yankees don’t go down 1-2-3 this inning. At least work the count.
Burnett would’ve given up a 3-run BOMB to Bay right there.
Make it 28 pitches. He can’t do that again. He’s close on most but, not close enough for the umpire.
Wow, squeezed big time that inning.
28 pitches for him that inning
The ump better have the same zone for Lester.
the worst thing about being a yankee fan, is all the other yankee fans that you are associated with…the ump isnt squeezing him
Hughes fast ball looks good.
I am really disgusted by the state of umpiring in the game right now, the strikezone is miniscule, if they are going to call such a small strikezone then raise the mound back up and move the fences back, to me this current brand of baseball is just not entertaining
Phil got jobbed last time out too. Just hope we can get to Lester but hes do for a gem and we are the team that usually helps pitchers out.
“Figure if Molina held onto that pitch, this game is still 0-0.”
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that’s the point. the ump was tight but it wasn’t horrible – as long as he’s consistent.
How can an ump be calling a tight zone right now? pathetic
How can an ump be calling a tight zone right now? pathetic
Hopefully next inning will be more efficient.
dan- Are you kidding me. Did you not just watch the same inning we all did?
Jackson, so far is 1-4 with 3 strikeouts for Scranton.
And for the umpteenth time I am pleased to say I STILL SEE PHIL HUGHES AS THE FUTURE FACE OF THIS FRANCHISE!
That’s not any kind of pressure on Phil to make it happen; it is my prediction of what IS going to happen.
Hughes has had games like this in the minors. Where he’s throwing a lot of pitches the 1st inning. But the rest of the way is un-hittable. So let’s hope that holds true.
Correctly changed to a pass ball. Run unearned.
Yes. unearned run.
The ump really squeezed Phil…….
yea, when i played the strike zone didnt start at the ankles…. even if they were close they werent sure strikes by any means, get over it, its baseball lets see if he calls it the same on both sides before we complain
thanks, jennifer
Dude from the Sopranos behind home
hughes is the franchise. his stuff is nasty. his fastball finally looks like the plus pitch we heard about
“the worst thing about being a yankee fan, is all the other yankee fans that you are associated with…the ump isnt squeezing him”
Dude trust me, he squeezed him more than a pair of lemons.
UPDATE, 9:36 p.m.: Good job by Hughes limiting the damage. He got squeezed by Jerry Meals when he walked Drew.
Gime me a break, that last pitch was the same as the Drew which should have been a k
What is the deal with the freaking YES radar gun?
“the worst thing about being a yankee fan, is all the other yankee fans that you are associated with…the ump isnt squeezing him”
Yeah Dan, that’s a good one. We all conspired to say the same thing at the same time. But in truth you’re the only one who got it right.
YAWN!
Just as expected Lester getting the outside corners. 2 K’s
there were no sure thing strikes called that inning. before i say he is getting squeezed ill watch how he calls it from the other side
Good – now Phil did walk Pedroia, but still..
Good – now Phil did walk Pedroia, but still..
apparenty dan is *not* god
I doubt that Hughes is concerned that the run is unearned. Hughes still walked two batters and gave up a run.
dan- You are insane. The call went over the knee and by the side of the plate. It was a strike!
“Figure (sic) if Molina held onto that pitch, this game is still 0-0.”
Have you learned nothing from Michael Kay. You, my friend, have become the latest victim of the Fallacy of the Pre-Determined Outcome.
Damon struck out but he wasn’t fooled there
isn’t this just typical
trisha – i wonder why no one else agreed. a bunch a people on a yankee blog site im sure are un biased. i mean no one here really likes the yankees enough to be slightly biased…
Hughes is the real deal
C’mon Yankees lets set a tone tonight. We own this stadium, you Red Sox are not welcome here.
Those weren’t strikes for Hughes
Seems Lester is getting the low strike call. Glad it almost bedtime.. Wow.. K’s the side! ..UGH! Tex go sit down please
good showing by the bats
Just as expected where was that pitch for Phil?!
“I doubt that Hughes is concerned that the run is unearned. Hughes still walked two batters and gave up a run.”
really he walked 1 and the ump gift wraped the 2nd
Figures he sucks when we dont face him. Now hes a CY Young candidate again
Strikes out the side…
I call… 10-1 Red Sox tonight. This game is over already
berroa forgot to turn his hearing aid up
What a surprise – Lester getting those same calls that Phil didn’t get? I hate umps
dan- I give up. You are wrong we are right. End of story. Pete even agreed with us.
“the worst thing about being a yankee fan, is all the other yankee fans that you are associated with”
Yes, such as those yankee fans who need to “appear objective” while ignoring the bloody obvious.
also why the HELL is girardi still batting tex third? someone please hand him the clue phone, it’s ringing off the hook.
maybe the rules arnt the same in softball….
its funny frank (a guy) agreed
You got it, RGR. Cy Young is on the mound for the Sox. Unbelieveable.
yikes…
Dan, I have to say that I am always impressed when all of the posts come in at the same time saying the same thing. And if you’ve been on these game threads long enough you know that you don’t typically have a ton of people calling something a strike at the same time.
GB, Phil looked GREAT that inning – he got squeezed big time
This might be a short outing for Hughes, get Aceves ready.
beedogs, are you serious???
Game over. This team needs to grow some balls. Seriously.
I’m gonna go study or something. I smell an embarrassing loss coming up.
lol
crap. that’s enough runs for lester
Is it OK to feel a bit betrayed when Michael Kay enthusiastically announces a home run for the other team?
trishia – its all yankee fans on a yankees blog, do you think i expected anyone to agree?
Venditte pitches 1 1/3 innings, 3 strikeouts, but RiverDogs lose 4-2. Education Day game tomorrow at 11.
come on Phil
Francona always has this team prepared, they will have Hughes out before the 4th.
How about you go study Baseball 101, Al?
And take some Afrin while you’re at it. Your nose appears to be clogged or something, lol.
dan- Go find a red sox blog than. really I don’t get it.
can’t throw that many pitches to the hot mess that is Varitek
dan aka god
May 4th, 2009 at 9:47 pm
“trishia – its all yankee fans on a yankees blog, do you think i expected anyone to agree?”
Some folks don’t like it when a Sox fan posts during a game so I will make this brief.
Dan, the last pitch to JD Drew clearly was a strike and obviously I am a Sox fan.
Jesus Nick Green taking Phil deep.
Nick Green almost a home run? How much more embarrassing can it get?
Phil enough testing the air man.
I can see that if Phil struggles, we’re going to have to deal with the “he sucks” faction……..
I certainly hope this game stays a contest. They seem to be hitting Hughes pretty hard so far. He’s not mixing his pitches up as well as he did in the last game. I might just call it a night…I don’t know if I can stand the pressure.
what dont you get. i love phil hughes. i just dont think he was getting “squeezed”. especially after only seeing a half inning. as long as the ump calls it the same both ways i dont care
Dan must be new here.
He appears clueless on just how rare a consensus on anything is around here, lol. Yankee-related or not.
Some of you are the worst fans ever.
“I’m gonna go study or something. I smell an embarrassing loss coming up.”
“Game over. This team needs to grow some balls. Seriously.”
Embarrassing. 2nd inning. 2-0 game. So embarassing.
Betsy
May 4th, 2009 at 9:46 pm
GB, Phil looked GREAT that inning – he got squeezed big time
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sorry, but, I’m not buying two different strike zones. He was missing just a little but still missing. He’s made 3 mistakes and they cost him.
dan – this is obviously your first time here. Someone else can play pat-a-cake with you because I don’t really feel like it.
Go back to Sons of Same Horn and hang out with your homies there – or don’t.
Someone really needs to take the dictionary away from Michael Kay and hand him a real book, or a magazine, or something.
Nick Green? Hitting over .300 and with a .379 OBP? How does this happen? As soon as they become Red Sox, they get good? Come on!!!
ray- Thank you!
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“And take some Afrin while you’re at it. Your nose appears to be clogged or something, lol.”
In this weather with Tex and the bottom half of the line-up as auto-outs, smooth sailing for Lester.
Hey that just went where I sat Saturday!!
“Jesus Nick Green taking Phil deep.”
It’s not lik he can’t, that pitch was down the pipe. He’s trying to get strikes from what it seems.
strikes child
Strikes
Dan, I’ll speak in your language – Yah retahded.
took out the luiz cruz part…haha
Chicago White Sox
Placed on 7-day DL: RHP Jeff Marquez
Los Angeles Dodgers
Released: RHP Tanyon Sturtze
Pittsburgh Pirates
Placed on 7-day DL: RHP Dan McCutchen, OF Jose Tabata
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I have more faith in the mid/bottom of the order than the top
Hey, guys! Remember when we wanted to anoint Phil Hughes the second coming of Whitey Ford, and were relegating Wang to mop-up duty!?!?
So much for that.
I hate to say it, especially since it’s only May, but this team is in trouble. Tex can’t buy a hit, A-Rod may or may not return to form, and the pitching staff, which was supposed to be the best in the majors, looks about as shakey as a rotation could look right now, and the bullpen…is…well…the bullpen. They’re in danger of digging themselves a hole too deep to climb out of, just like they did last year.
wow hughes just dont have it or that last week was just a fluke
wow hughes just dont have it or that last week was just a fluke
green beret, careful disagreeing with the ladies. even though no one respects their opinion, they get defensive. beware – they are watching the k zone on espn so they think they have an upper hand on the umps
so a “long reliever” was a good idea, yes?
Dammit no way he makes it to the 5th or 6th this way.
28 pitches in the 1st 1 R, 17 pitches in the 2nd 1 ER, 2R
Oh yeah espn k zone so accurate. You really have to be kidding me.
Aceves will certainly make an appearance, based upon this pitch count. I just want a contest against the Sox. No ridiculous blow-outs or blown games.
Game isn’t over yet though, Al.
I can see that if Phil struggles, we’re going to have to deal with the “he sucks” faction……..
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Sad but probably true.
is that guy still talking bout a first inning non strike call?
really? lol
all of you he’s not getting squeezed people need to stfu and watch gameday. and for everyone who says game day isnt accurate, its the same technology they use in tennis to challenge the umpire there. He’s not even kind of getting the calls.
“Nick Green? Hitting over .300 and with a .379 OBP? How does this happen? As soon as they become Red Sox, they get good? Come on!!!”
It’s called the curse of the pinstripes!
Phil will be fine tonight. He’s being squeeze pretty bad by the ump, but that was the case in his last start, too.
He’ll adjust and Molina will call a good game. We’re fine.
lol, lucky GB – Dan is looking for some solidarity.
Dustin Pedroia is the new Craig Counsell.
THE GUY IS 22 YEARS OLD. Leave him alone. So he’s struggling a little bit. Hes not doing worse than Wang did in his first 3 starts. Have some faith. Be a fan and root for him
sorry hateraid – i obviously have no idea what im talking about
I give up. A computer program is more accurate than our eyes.
Whatever.
i dont understand why girardi started molina in the first place? Posada got a day off, he should be catching hughes seeing how he already caught his first start. Changing catchers is not the way to handle a 22 year old pitcher
phil hughes is gunna be a stud, its 50 degrees and rainy and hes 22 – his fastball has looked awesome
I’m stuck with ESPN tonight…Phillips, just hates the Yanks….Orel is refreshing…..
I’m more worried about our hitting
random girl aka sexist tosser.
“all of you he’s not getting squeezed people need to stfu and watch gameday. and for everyone who says game day isnt accurate, its the same technology they use in tennis to challenge the umpire there. He’s not even kind of getting the calls.”
“God” and his saint think they know better. However, the rest of us are with you. We saw it clearly, and gameday showed what we saw.
Thanks.
dan aka god
May 4th, 2009 at 9:53 pm
green beret, careful disagreeing with the ladies. even though no one respects their opinion, they get defensive. beware – they are watching the k zone on espn so they think they have an upper hand on the umps
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Sorry, but, I’m not getting into a pissing contest over “disputed: strike zone calls. It’s not worth ruining the ballgame and my evening over.
Evolution – there a couple reasons
1) better defensively (despite the one bad play)
2) better at throwing out runners
3) better at calling a game
Hopefully we get a walk and someone can run into one to right.
How does Hughes look? Is he just missing on a few or consistently? Just catching up.
You might see Aceves tonight, but the reason may not be Hughes — it may be Mother Nature. Radar is suggesting a lot of rain in a little while. Should pass, but it’s coming.
can we get some god damn hits together this inning???
In what religious book is God also known as Dan?
pat m – at least you didnt get morgan
Get ready Aceves. Hughes at 49 pitches through 2.
is LESTER this good? they are making him look like Sandy
Dan, did your mom let you outside without your helmet?
I wouldn’t mind another rain delay in 1-2 innings…that should get lester out too…
Hughes doesn’t look terrible.
Hey – hateraid is on our side here! I think you misread what he was saying.
Mr. Full Count is back
dan aka god, asides from jacoby this team isn’t the fastest of them all. Posada started against the angels, why can’t he start against the red sox?
calling a game, yeah but Posada already called a great game for hughes against Detroit. Why change something thats not broken?
yankee 1010 thats 2 bad jokes so far, keep it up!!!
Ha… line drive by Swisher would have hit someone if those seats were actually filled.
the Red Sox announcers said Hughes got squeezed. Eck said he would have wanted that last 3-2 pitch to Drew.
maybe they are pro Yankees too.
Right now I’m pissed that the Penguins lost to the Capitals, so I feel kind of blunt.
Yes, Phil Hughes has great stuff. Yes, he’s young. But until this guy can put together two good starts in a row, he remains untested and unproven to me.
Enough of excuses. Pitch like a major leaguer or stay in Scranton until you can.
i see your point but if i had it my way id have molina back there every day and posada at dh
Swishaaaaa. I walk all the time.
OMG a walk. Nice going, keep it up. Good at bat!
swish
lets go robbie!
work Lester here
“is LESTER this good? they are making him look like Sandy”
Well he doesn’t suck. Although overpowering Jetes and Damon ain’t much of a feat these days.
so even the NESN announcers agree the pitches FROM TWO INNINGS AGO were strikes…can we move on now?
Well dan, if thats the point then they should do that. I wouldn’t mind that either if we didn’t already have matsui as our DH. But there’s really no point in putting molina out there today..
I wouldn’t get all bent out of shape in the 2nd inning. There’s plenty of time left and this is only a 2-run game.
Really.
wow nice play
Also Phil had a start pushed back a day. And today’s start pushed back 2 hrs. So maybe it’s just him getting adjusted.
The plan is clear when everyone faces the Yankees. Throw strikes no matter what they will take pitches all day long. Lets start jacking some first pitches.
Green owning us…
Un-real. I hate this team!!!
Green? wth!! Green didn’t do this for us.
Oh, Nick Green, DIAF.
lucky basterd because he really can’t field.
“wow hughes just dont have it or that last week was just a fluke”
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knew this would happen. People got way too amped up about Hughes last week already calling for Wang to be traded or Joba to the bullpen.
He is very good and clearly better than last year… but it was foolish to give the guy the Cy Young after 1 game.
great job cano going 1-3
HIP HIP!
Nice hit Jorgie.
jorgie is turning it on as of late
How huge is that Green BS now. Ugh.
too bad we have molina and berroa next
Nice heads up baserunning Robi !
Posada..
No way Jeter keeps that grounder in the infield.
Nick freakin’ Green.
Nice Jorge!
Nick Green? Hitting over .300 and with a .379 OBP? How does this happen? As soon as they become Red Sox, they get good? Come on!!!”
It’s called the curse of the pinstripes!
Its called Yankee fans and media pounding players before they have a chance to develop. Green is not going to hold up this well all year but it is a good example as many others are of how the Yankees panic and end up giving up too soon on players. Sad, because the replacement usually ends up being Angel Berrora types.
oh wait I forgot melky, LETS GO LECHEEEEEEEEE
cue the Melky sucks posts if he makes an out here
Awww all of you who were so worried about Lester because of one inning.
matsui has a bum knee and the weather sucks, there was no way he was playing today. his 0-3 against lester didnt help his cause either.
i smell what your steppin in, but i think our philosophies just differ. i would rather a defensive team
We gotta knock a sox down now. SO MAD!
COME ON MY DA MELK!!!!!
no melky sucks chants. he has been awesome this year. as much as i liked your gardiner, see you later
Melky doesn’t look fooled by Lester, he must see Jon real well
Dan, you’re obviously hopeless and Darwinism will get you soon enough.
2-2 cue the K down and in.
I’d use Cano as the litmus test to determine how good a pitcher is. He’s the best pure hitter on the Yanks.
dammit melky!
got me again yankee1010. your the man
May 4th, 2009 at 10:03 pm
“No way Jeter keeps that grounder in the infield.”
I agree.
oops sorry for the swear, i dont know how to edit it
RISP w/ less than 2 outs = Yankee death
He gets that call but Phil doesnt!?!?!?
Bottom of the line-up automatic 1-2-3.
Nick Green is Nick Green, Come on.
Adjustment or not, 50 pitches in two innings is Jaret Wright/Carl Pavano baloney.
Oh yeah, can this team get a run in with someone on 3rd and two outs?
Wow Phil didn’t get that call.
4 K’s in 2 IP for Lester, at this pace he’s going to break double digits by the 6th
benny – jeter has the 2nd best range factor in the AL right now
Does anyone actually think they’re going to score that run?
“Meanwhile, Angel Berroa didn’t acknowledge the Bleacher Creature Roll Call until Jeter told him to. Either he didn’t understand it or couldn’t hear it.”
LOL, maybe all you beat guys could chip in for that As Seen on TV hearing amplifier that looks like a bluetooth headset gadget? It the least you could do for all the mileage he’s given you guys on age jokes due to his presence in the clubhouse.
Any other team scores here, unreal.
That was a strike. Ump is giving some wiggle room low. Nothing on the sides, but low looks to be the pitch he’ll call. Has called it for Hughes too.
Molina is a black hole in this lineup >.>
“He gets that call but Phil doesnt!?!?!?”
A little bigger of a rep.
wow the bottom of the order is garbage tonight…molina can’t hit and berroa looks like he is 65 years old, his best year is way past him
dan, you really don’t think Jeter is a good defensive SS do you?
“Wow Phil didn’t get that call.
4 K’s in 2 IP for Lester, at this pace he’s going to break double digits by the 6th”
Ump has helped.
thats what we get for starting molina in there
why is Lester getting all the calls?
Right down the middle.
2 IP 5 K’s 0 R, Lester looks amazing tonight.
Because he’s throwing strikes, ICB?
This umpire is 110% atrocious. Once again, the bats are completely taken out of our hands, and the ball is taken away from Hughes, because this guy doesn’t know the definition of “consistent strike zone”. Unreal.
Not good. You would think a pitcher they saw a week ago would not have anything new. I just don’t get the scouting by the Yankees, other teams seem to know the Yankees pitchers well, but the reverse is not always true.
New York who?
He saw 8 and stuck out 5. sheesh!
this team is so frustrating. although, who didn’t see that coming?
Okay at some point we need our own roll call here every game:
Al from BK – worries early and often
Trisha – never worries
Anyone want to add to it?
girardi has been over managing this year, theres no way around it
no focus.
that inning was hurt by nick green and melky…i can understand striking out…but with molina up next dont you have to swing atleast
Baseball will eventually implement an automated strike zone. Just a matter of time. Everyone and their mother knows how poor umpires are at doing their job.
i think jeter is probably average. i think his intangibles raise his stock. i can only name a few SS in the league i would rather have when you consider defense and offense together (hanley, reyes, and rollins)
It’s men among boys right now.
Too many problem areas right now for the Yankees and it shows in series like this.
It’s a team not yet ready for primetime.
Quite amazing considering how much they spent in the off-season.
At least right now, it doesn’t look any different than last year.
SWB won 7-5 over Indy. Claggett got the W.
Kontos 4.1 6 5 3 3 4 0 6.23
Disgraceful. DISGRACEFUL. How can you stand there and take called third strikes with runners in scoring position?
yea giradi kinda sucks, but i like him better than torre
Of course Nick Green is a superstar with Boston.
Hughes needs a quick inning here.
5 K’s in 2 IP. Lester is good but he isn’t that good. Ump is ESPN approved it seems.
nice AB’s by Melky and Molina. Melky usually swings at pitch’s at his eyes but let’e one go right down the middle.
Molina with a Pass Ball and a nice view of a pitch right down the middle.
more clutch hitting…
HR: SWB: S. Duncan (10)
“Al from BK – worries early and often
Trisha – never worries”
Russell NY – always predicts a Melky Cabrera strikeout. lol
swinging helps.
can we get nick green back and put him at third?
My guess is that’s not the real SJ. Once again.
Seems to me you’re overreacting on not catching Posada. It’s cold and it’s been raining for three days. Not a good recipe for a newly-repaired shoulder. That’s not over-managing. That’s conscientious managing. Whether we like it or not.
and we walk a guy batting .200
awesome
Why not go offspeed 2-2?
Ugh. 4 BB 2 IP.
well I see where this is going. Nite.
Chill out, Pete. Do you have to critique every little aspect of the new stadium? We don’t need LOB numbers on the scoreboard. How about instead of nitpicking the stadium (at least save that for when the game is not happening) you write more about the game?
Phil doesn’t look to have what he had in Detroit. Command is a little shaky.
hes not getting any close calls at all
i love how ortiz called out arod for steriods but its never been more obvious that he is a cheater (a fat cheater)
at least Papi’s not a speedster
Damn, come on Phil
they are not going to swing at balls just throw some strikes dammit
Cleveland and Toronto in extras
…and where was that pitch?
Phil may be getting squeezed a little bit, but he’s shown zero command so far. hopefully he can figure it out
Take him out. Put in Aceves.
Can we get a called strike for Hughes? Or are all those reserved for Lester? Girardi needs to protect his 22 year old.
“HR: SWB: S. Duncan (10)”
Talk to me about Eric not Shelley.
As for Phil… right now I doubt he makes it to the 6th. Aceves needs to warm up now b/c he looks like the delay has caught up w/ him.
His command is shaky and he looks like he’s nibbling. You don’t nibble with Ortiz, he’s awful right now
Can’t blame the umpire, please.
He’s not throwing enough strikes to get the calls.
Soon the worst bullpen in baseball will me in to put this one out of reach.
If the pitching can’t improve, this team is in big trouble.
almost hit youk..
I’m tired of the bad baseball…where’s the pitching and where’s the offense…
hughes needs to go after these 220. hitters
its like the yankee pitchers are so scared of the zone
Ok, it’s completely unacceptable to have so many called strike threes off a young pitcher. Whatever happened to fouling good pitches off? If you’re going to strike out, at least make it look like you’re making an effort to hit the ball.
On another note, I don’t like pitching Hughes and Joba back to back against the Red Sox. With both pitchers on pitch counts and a tendancy not to go deep in games, it makes little sense to have them face a very patient lineup and ultimately burn the bullpen out on consecutive days.
I know this is probably why they brought Aceves up but he’s going to need to pitch a few innings tonight as a long reliever which puts us in a bad position tomorrow (relying on Veras, Ramirez, etc. for the late innings). Hopefully the Yankees can find a way to break the rotation up and put CC or Burnett between the two young guns.
And what is ESPN talking about? Joba should be in the pen.
Ever think that if Steve Phillips was as smart as he tries to sound he would still be a GM.
wow berroa started a DP
Huge for Hughes.
god i can’t stand steve phillips
Does a symptom of swine flu include being completely unable to get the runner from third in with less then two outs? Hmmmm maybe thats what the yankees have contracted?
thank god for slow people
Did Phil need that or what? Sadly our chance to pound Lester has passed.
trisha, what? Don’t start on this joba to the pen garbage
Was that the cutter ?
Nice DP. Hopefully that will give Phil some confidence.
stop complaining about phillips. you could have morgan
Joba at 63 pitches
Jon Lester has tied the all-time record for strikeouts in a game in New Yankee Stadium III with 5, He joins AJ Burnett and CC Sabathia.
Opps Phil..
trisha – click to see my bigger and better Opening Day pictures
May 4th, 2009 at 10:16 pm
And what is ESPN talking about? Joba should be in the pen.
Secretly ESPN has agreements with the Daily News, the Post, LoHud to continually promote that argument so that their writers don’t have to come up with an actual story of substance.
joba in the pen would make sense if we had 5 quality starters
Come on thats not a strike to bay?
And how many pitches has Hughes thrown already? 66. It’s going to be an early night for the pen from hell. Damn.
man this umps strike zone is 2×2 for hughes
The Sox are a great team.
wait no 2×2 would be too big
Have to love the squeezing that Hughes got in his last start and this one.
66 pitches in 3 IP, he has 26-34 left before they yank him.
odds anything changes with a-rod back are about as good as mine that bird winning the derby
just dont expect the same result.
Evolution – not me. The talking heads on ESPN
The pitching will improve. SJ, I am surprised at the pessimism from you of all people.
Nonetheless, Hughes had better get his act together. This is getting late early. Four walks, and 65 pitches in three innings? What a load of crap.
“When asked how he coped with similar news media circuses, or Manny Ramirez eruptions, Francona said the most aggravating part was when inside team information got out. But he also said he was proud of how, “when we had some characters, they always understood they needed to play baseball.”
He paused and added: “Because there’s not going to be many books written if you don’t win.”
Unless, of course, you’re the A-Rod of this universe, where the Yankees have won one playoff series since he was barred from Boston, before departing Texas, hard-bound for New York.”
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05.....imessports
a steve phillips / joe morgan combo would cause every TV in america to simultaneously explode i bet
did this home plate umpire just wander in off the street? does he have any concept of the strike zone?
Steve Philips traded Kazmir, that’s all you need to know about him.
this ump needs to be consistent
can girardi please wake up and stop arguing a bit? Hughes is to blame, obviously. But it doesn’t help when every borderline call goes to Boston.
Steve Phillips DID NOT TRADE KAZMIR
Is ESPN seriously debating Joba as a reliever while Hughes is pitching? Disgusting.
brandon: e-dunc took an 0-5 on the day and made an error
Nick Green would’ve made that play. LOL
he practically has to throw it right down the middle to get the call
Warm up Aceves.
Pittsburgh. I highly doubt that is the real SJ. That’s why nobody is responding to the posts.
I never post here, but I have to.
This umpire is absolutely terrible. First two pitches to Bay were strikes, no doubter.
Game 4 between these two rivals, and it still feels like the edge is all on one side (with apologies to the Pollyannas).
Have a hard time believing they are playing this game now. Guess my tix for tonight will go to waste. Given how Hughes has started off, better to not be there anyway. Hopefully it rains before the 5th inning. Yesterday afternoon, the sat around all day on their asses while it wasn’t raining from 1:15 on.
Phil is missing low in the zone…I your going to miss that’s the best place, low and at the knees
Hughes is not going to make 4 innings, let alone 5. Not good.
“brandon: e-dunc took an 0-5 on the day and made an error”
off day, because he’s been crushing the ball so far.
Sox bandwagon in attendance it seems. Can’t give it up here.
The pendulum certainly has swung in this rivalry. Not saying we can’t win this game but it seems like they beat us in every possible way.
Could it be that Hughes was a little more comfortable with Posada? Is switching catchers on a young gun really the best option? Maybe he’s not in sync with Molina. Picthers are comfortable with certain catchers. It could also be the weather factor.
It’s not the umpire’s fault. Hughes is constantly getting behind hitters.
He’s either walking them or they are crushing the ball.
I like Hughes, and yeah, he’s only 22. But he’s got to get ahead of hitters or he will get destroyed.
And it’s not the rain. Doesn’t seem to be bothering Lester.
get out of the inning and pray for a long rain delay
why is every low pitch down in the dirt, ball must be slipping out of his hand
darnnnnittt.
gonna be a long game, why can’t we beat boston anymore???!!!???
Let’s hope the rain comes. I would be shocked if Hughes gets through 4.
What’s with Hughes throwing everything at the same speed? Who’s calling the pitches? Howard Stern’s sidekick Stuttering John? So far it’s hard to tell who’s had a worse game, Hughes or Molina.
Good ole Steve Phillips
http://www.baseballamerica.com.....azmir.html
exactly nothingbutnet,
trading a catcher on hughes is just not a good idea no matter what
lucky hits for boston
We’ve seen enough of this crap in Boston.
Ugh, this game is so sickening.
This one is getting ugly fast.
Boston hits in the clutch. Something the yankees don’t seem to do.
I said it yesterday and I will say it again I really don’t understand why they pitched Hughes tonight. He pitched great the last time out and they should of left his confidence up and skipped him against probably one of the toughest lineup he will face all season. They threw him to the wolves in only his 2nd start. Made absolutely no sense…
Hughes remains unproven, until he can string together two good games in a row.
No excuses.
Lowell is giving Hughes a class on what you don’t do to hot hitters.
Ugh. I’m outta here. I hate these games.
This umpire is just awful. Girardi really needs to stop being such a freaking wus and actually argue a damn call.
Ace, Philips didn’t trade Kazmir. Why don’t you go look at his GM history next time
Ballgame. Horrific 0-4 to start against the Sawks.
Take him out of the game.
Can it start raining again?
rconn23 — you’ve summed it up succinctly
And so you see, a long reliever in the pen is a must for unforseen situations and emergencies…
dave roberts had to steal that f***** base. just had to.
It kills me to say this but Boston owns us right now. This is what we used to do to them. Please offense bail Hughes out.
Let’s go Yankees! Please stop sucking!
Jim Duquette was the GM who traded Kazmir, not Phillips.
“trading a catcher on hughes is just not a good idea no matter what”
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how would posada get hughes to locate his fastball better?
he has no command. that isn’t really a result of who is calling the pitches.
its obvious that hughes and molina aren’t on the same page. really stupid to change the catcher on hughes
i miss the days we didnt struggle to stay above .500 and the sox didnt seem to own us.
Phil has maybe one more inning left in him. Aceves goes right to work.
can we start this inning with one out like we used to do in little league when we only had 8 kids show up cuz god knows berroa is gonna go down real quick
Grandpa will make friends if he gets a hit here
Dave, do you notice how many times either Hughes or Molina are shaking each other off? Hughes worked muchhhhhh quicker with Posada in detroit
“Ballgame. Horrific 0-4 to start against the Sawks.”
Al, it’s 0-3, but who’s counting. Obviously not you!
Phil Hughes pitching like a toddler, and the ESPN morons spouting off complete nonsense.
I’m not sure I can stand much more of this game.
Note to Steve Phillips et al. Let’s see if the Yankees investment pays off come October 8th, idiots.
Eric Duncan was hitting the ball well….in april. In May, he’s 1-13 and his average has dropped 65 points.
Hughes is simply trying to be too fine. He’s trying to hard to make perfect pitches at the knees and on the black.
He’s showing the Red Sox too much respect rather than trusting his stuff and making it work.
The quality of his fastball, cutter and breaking stuff are good. He’s just not locating it. But the stuff is there to get outs if he had better command.
Tonight was going to be a tough night for Hughes’ locating his curveball. He throws a knuckle curve and that pitch can be difficult to grip when it’s wet.
That said it’s been his four seam fastball command that’s been the problem.
Its pathetic how many runners this team has left on 3B this year
It’s not over yet, of course, but an 0 – 5 start against Boston is not unmeaningful.
Staying too long with Hughes because he has the worst bullpen in baseball.
Can’t win without pitching and right now the Yankees have no pitching.
Starters and relievers are equally poor.
They built this team around pitching and right now, the pitching ranks last in baseball.
That ain’t good.
Looks like Cash is going to have to remake the pitching staff in season again.
Matt– When A-Rod was on the DL last year, the Yanks averaged one less run per game (in a down year for A-Rod, mind you). So, to say that nothing is going to change when he comes back this year (assuming health) is probably…well…wrong.
Grienke just dominated AGAIN tonight, crazy
This game is not over by any means. But I’ve got the same feeling I do every game vs. Boston since Game 4, 2004. It never turns out our way. They continually own us. So sad.
Maybe we should use Joba in relief tonight for 4 innings or so.
“It kills me to say this but Boston owns us right now. ”
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because all the games were blowouts?
I guess if you think Mariano will blow every save, then sure. Or if not having ARod wouldn’t have helped…
The games were very close. Having Alex in there is enough to shift the balance in an extremely close game (which is what we’ve seen so far from the first 3 games).
Tonight isn’t over either. 3-0 and we’re already panicking. C’mon now.
This is directly the result of the umpire. Anyone who thinks otherwise is deluding themselves.
Look at gameday. Practically every pitch Hughes throws is at the knees on the outside corner… for a ball. If you give a good major league hitter 6 strikes, what do you expect him to do?
In some of those at bats, Hughes got to a 1-2 count, then threw 2 perfect corner fastballs. What more does he have to do to get a hitter out? No pitcher can throw 5 perfect pitches in a row to retire a hitter, you need to get the strikes when you throw them!
This umpire has caused the majority of Hughes walks and about 20-30 pitches thus far. These walks have prolonged the innings and scored big insurance runs.
It’s quite obvious to anyone who is watching the game and gameday that he is getting killed by the umpire.
Nobody wants to admit it, but poor, inconsistent umpiring can lose you a game, and it’s hurting the Yankees very badly tonight
Hmm so it looks like the Yanks are throwing tonight’s game. A little rain and they fold, pretty pathetic really.
The Yankees didn’t score for Phil last week until they took him out.
Tex needs to step up today if we want to win this gaem
Molina caught Hughes in Detroit.
I’m not about to give up on the season because of tonight – I knew this overreaction would happen if Phil didn’t pitch well……
“Jim Duquette was the GM who traded Kazmir, not Phillips.”
Your right, Steve traded Jason Bay and AJ Burnett.
berroa looking like hes 100 years old
6 k in 2 1/3?
Everyone knows that Grandpa can’t hit anything but a fastball…
COME BACK A-ROD HURRY!!!!!!!!!!
Can someone give me one good G.D. reason why Angel Berroa is on this team, let alone starting? That is an honest question.
great job running berroa out there girardi, sigh
Al from BK
May 4th, 2009 at 10:24 pm
Ballgame. Horrific 0-4 to start against the Sawks.
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If it’s so horrific, turn off the tv, turn off the computer and go play with your Barbie doll. Your whining is really getting annoying and it slows down the blog.
Like who didn’t see that coming
he’s averaging 2 K’s per IP.
SJ, you make it sound like you don’t think CC/AJ/Andy are ever going to get their acts together. What did people expect of Phil? Now he’s going to get knocked when he shouldn’t be up here in the first place.
berroa is absolute garbage, he should be out of the league and playing for the long island ducks. at least ramiro pena is great defensively and has shown some spurts with the bat. hurry back a-rod!!!!
Nice Derek
yay jeter…
sadly cant be happy because i have no faith in him moving from 1B
Yeah, Matt, it’s all the umpires’ doing. Hughes is sharp and the Yankees offense is clicking. Stop whining.
Please someone remind me why Berroa is playing tonight? Especially on wet grass…
Boston Dave,
No, I’m not saying that they own us because they crushed us every game. They beat us in heart breaking fashion like we used to do to them. They do everything right and we everything wrong in big spots over the last few years. As for being “crushed” or the game being close…what does it matter, a loss is a loss. The loss on Friday night was the same as the loss on Sunday night. I’m just saying that they do things that we used to do. And in big spots/games we melt like they used to. Roles have reversed. That’s all. I’m not saying we can’t win today.
SJ44, when you are back on the forum you should ask Pete to black out the ISP address of the person who continues to impersonate you.
haha whoa you’re right, molina did catch hughes in detroit. Well that answers all the questions
Come on Tex. Do something please.
As far as Hughes, this is the growing pains of young pitchers.
Trying to be too fine and pressing a bit when trouble hits.
Those are growing pains you have to live with as he finds his way.
He’s the least of the problems with this poor pitching staff.
I am so sick and tired of the umps squeezing these guys, Everything Lester throws is a strike, and he wont give Hughes anything
nice pop up damon, glad you’re a team player refusing to get an mri on your shoulder
I’m really not worried about Hughes right now as a pitcher. How many 22 years old in baseball come up to the big leagues and don’t struggle with command?
The thing that worries me is how the Yankees are going to deal with Hughes and Joba both pitching with innings limits (and pitch count limits) with their shaky bullpen.
I pity anyone whose only feed for tonight’s game is ESPN. Watching games w/the volume muted is NO FUN.
“Please someone remind me why Berroa is playing tonight? Especially on wet grass…”
To PH Matsui when Lester is pulled, completely back fired.
How in heck was that second pitch a strike?
Why is Orel wearing Sarah Palin glasses?
CB, maybe Phil got rattled due to the non-calls in the first. His stuff is very good – that’s the good news. He’s 22 – this is what we can expect from a 22 year old, those of us who are willing to be patient that is. Unfortunately, we are few and far between.
Patience extends to the team as well – now we have to go remake the team? Assuming that the SP is never going to improve? Whew…and I thought I was negative, lol
“They beat us in heart breaking fashion like we used to do to them. They do everything right and we everything wrong in big spots over the last few years.”
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so how did the Yankees win the season series with the Sox last season and I believe the season before as well?
Hmmm?
The Sox are good but they don’t own the Yankees, that’s for sure.
complete game shut out for Greinke
“Dave, do you notice how many times either Hughes or Molina are shaking each other off? Hughes worked muchhhhhh quicker with Posada in detroit”
good somebody noticed that too
CB, One thing that I’ve noticed is that Phil is working way too fast….Almost rushing to get the game in …..
stop popping up the ball
That was outside!
“Trying to be too fine and pressing a bit when trouble hits.”
He was fine until he started getting squeezed then he completely changed his approach for strike one and vs Mike Lowell that’s not a good thing. Really Mike Lowell and the ump is the guy that hurt him tonight.
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
teixera is KILLING us
Yankees just don’t have it tonight. Horrible AB’s.
It’s not Molina’s fault, just like it’s not Posada’s fault when Burnett got crushed, or any of the other number of craptastic performances turned in by Yankees pitchers this year.
The silly argument that Posada is causing the staff ERA to skyrocket needs to be put to bed. It’s just dumb.
I’m sure Molina is calling a good game, Hughes simply can’t throw strikes consistently. Until he can do that, he won’t be an effective pithcer.
Boston Dave,
They Yanks won the season series but where did they get them?
Tex is a nightmare. Ugh. Stop hitting pop ups!
Come on, Phil. Settle down and give us 5 innings.
cue the boos, teixeira looking a-rod and giambi before him
I’d complain about Tex, and how bad he’s sucked so far, but really, what’s the point?
This is Ugly.
Some teams have champion written all over them, this team is nothing special 90 wins at best.
DonnieBaseball,
I know what you’re saying but you said they “own” the Yankees. That’s hardly the case.
You don’t think having ARod will make any difference at all? In the first series, those close games could have gone either way. The ARod impact (over Berroa especially) doesn’t win a game, maybe two?
I find it VERY hard to believe that Tex is healthy. He isn’t even hitting the ball hard. Did the Yanks mess up once again on an injury and is his wrist not 100% yet??!! It seems more then a slump and a health problem. During a slump you can atleast hit the ball. Girardi HAS to give him a couple of days off.
I realize Teixeira isn’t looking good. But how is booing him going to help him hit?
Its like people think that he’s doing it on purpose.
Pop out Teixiera
Tex, 3-31
0-14 risp.
Very impressed by what Steve Phillips had to say about the Roberts tattler.
It appears that most people around baseball are rooting for Arod.
Someone needs to point Tex to a calendar and show him that April has been over with for 4 days now…He really needs to step up and produce
I am hoping it doesn’t continue but it is really frustrating that our big 3 acquisitions this offseason have been complete failures through the first month.
“complete game shut out for Greinke”
He’s just sick this yr. but we weren’t giving up on Cano for him. There was a time Melky + IPK would have landed him but Yankee fans talking about his head problems. 0.50 ERA and lower.
Tex could not be any worse right now. Period. I know, he’s trying hard, his wrist isn’t right, etc. But the results are putrid.
Bench Tex for a game and bring up Duncan? There’s gotta be something wrong with Tex. This has gone on far too long now. I understand slow starts, but we’re already 25 games in at this point.
“Boston Dave,
They Yanks won the season series but where did they get them?”
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that wasn’t your point.
“SJ”
After your last comment, it is clear you are not the real SJ44. That sort of comment is simply nuts. The “rest of the pitching staff is poor?”
Let’s see if you are saying that by the end of June, “SJ,” or whoever you are.
Who would have guessed that Tex would become an automatic out?
A Red Sox game and there are empty seats. Three two out hits in a row. Terrible. 9:20 first pitch. The only reason they started this game is because they wanted the money from tonight’s gate. A-rod. Can it get much worse for a Yankee fan? Someone has got to get fired. They have been too bad for too long. Tonight I am voting with my fingers. Click!
wow, rough day for him
molina is so off tonight
I hope cashman get’s fired….he’s the ultimate problem here….
“I realize Teixeira isn’t looking good. But how is booing him going to help him hit?
Its like people think that he’s doing it on purpose.”
Sounds alot like #13 IMHO.
“Ballgame. Horrific 0-4 to start against the Sawks.”
Ballgame? Did they shorten the game to 3 innings?
Al your comments are really unintelligent and inaccurate.
Are you really a Yankee fan? or a troll? or both maybe?
“Tex, 3-31
0-14 risp.”
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Pete may be right. Tex wasn’t this bad before the wrist injury.
ARod can’t come back soon enough. They can try to give Tex a few days off if they can replace him with Alex.
Phil Hughes really isn’t the problem tonight. This kind of game is nothing special or out of the ordinary for a young pitcher. Not at all.
This is the typical kind of game that a 22 year old has in the major leagues from time to time.
Tonight is absolutely nothing like those awful games he threw at this time last year when he was pitching with the fractured rib.
He’s going to be a very good pitcher. Very good. He has a very dynamic arm with terrific life on all of his pitches.
Just look at the pitches that have been in the zone. The Sox have hurt him when he’s gotten behind in the count or when he’s walked people. But they’ve been late on his fastball on many swings and haven’t squared up his cutter that well.
He hasn’t been great. But he hasn’t been the primary problem tonight.
The offense is brutal. There’s no way around it.
well, at least there was no chance for fan interference in the front row for that pop foul. makes it all the worse that molina didn’t get it.
lol damon slid pretty hard
Tex is hurt, he has to be. I just think he is afraid of going on the DL before A-Rod gets back. Pressure to live up to the contract etc.
Boston Dave,
Those are fair and valid points. Perhaps “owned” was too strong. Put simply, they have done the fundamental things well at the right times. We haven’t…for the most part.
If Tex was hitting, ARod/Nady/Wang/Bruney were healthy, I like our chances. But right now this team is pretty painful to watch.
that could have been a inside the park HR
Damon continues to show how poor he is out there. The field is wet why are you driving…
To one of the other poster’s point, BOS is beating us in every way possible. Tight games, slugfests, late innings.
To one of the other poster’s point, BOS is beating us in every way possible. Tight games, slugfests, late innings.
damon looks brutal out there his defense has declined so much
I see fake SJ44 is back.
This game is far from over. Boston seems to be getting some breaks. Bloop hit from Lowell. Hughes is getting squeezed.
It has nothing to do with Molina calling a good game. This is a 22 year old kid. Its about who your comfortable with. I’m only suggesting maybe the comfort with Molina isn’t there as it was with Posada.
Is Tex really healthy? I doubt it. His performance is astoundingly bad – Patrick, I would not put CC in that category and definitely not AJ. Tex has been absolutely brutal…….like Tino was when he first got here, but I think worse.
No wonder a lot of players hate the fans. What kind of morons start grabbing a guy after he dove for a ball? If I were Johnny I’d have clocked those two dopes
Almost every time they play the Sox Damon gets hurt because he tries too hard against them. Like look what you lost…
Yanks should be in the dug-out taking notes. This is how a real team hits with RISP.
Oh, good lord, Rick Ankiel. That’s one of the sickest things I’ve ever seen.
this team has too many players that like playing injured. I understand wanting to help your team but you really aren’t. If you’re injured, get rest and get better. Playing will not help us.
and it seems like we’ve woken up ortiz, awesome.
Stinks when they get yard dart hits…Lowell and now Elsbury
Keep pitching him inside. He’s gonna beat us every time.
He knew that was coming.
damon is probably going to be cold (temprature-wise, hopefully not hitting-wise) the rest of the night after getting soaked.
“I realize Teixeira isn’t looking good. But how is booing him going to help him hit?
Its like people think that he’s doing it on purpose.”
Angel, perfect call. That’s the way I feel about booing any of the Yankees.
Donnie,
All I’m saying is it’s 3 games and the Yankees could have won all 3.
Not having ARod makes a huge difference.
Of course not in a game like this… (but the first 3, yes)
and now big papi can start getting hot again…i knew this would happen against us, if not last week then this week…its only a matter of time before he bombs into the short right porch
This team has no mental toughness it’s really pathetic. The Red Sox came to play today, rain or shine. The Yankees didn’t.
temperature**
i m tellin ya molina is calling a horrible game, they haven’t thrown ortiz a pitch anywhere but inside..you got to variate..so effin predicatable
Okay, they’ve got their run this inning too.
“Damon continues to show how poor he is out there. The field is wet why are you driving…”
whats he driving? a ford edge?
Terrible pitch calling…How many times are you going to pitch him??!!! Did Molina not think he would be looking there??!! I have never seen anything so stupid.
hughes walks two to three steps well on the grass towards the plate after pitches to get the ball from molina then turns and has to walk back to the mound.
lester doesn’t leave the mound and quickly throws the next pitch.
hughes expends way too much time and energy just to get to the next pitch.
the last few posts I’ve made that had P e t e ‘s name in it have been blocked.
what’s that about?
I was giving him credit for saying Tex may still be hurt from the wrist injury.
“One thing that I’ve noticed is that Phil is working way too fast….Almost rushing to get the game in …..”
Pat M.,
You know – I thought he was working very fast in the Detroit game as well so I wasn’t sure if it was an issue of him wanting to increase his pace.
But he doesn’t look settled tonight.
It’s just a typical game that 22 years old will have in the big leagues.
He really doesn’t have command of his four seam fastball. Trying to be way to fine.
Hughes still better than Wang.
Yankees have to hit the ball to win. Bottom line.
They rank last in baseball in pitching Pittsburgh.
If that keeps up, what they do in June won’t matter.
This staff isn’t good. Maybe they will be 3 months from now or maybe they won’t.
Right now, it’s awful and it’s digging yet another hole this team is going to have to climb out of if they want to be competitve this year.
If Ortiz has seen 15 pitches..14 of them were inside. What a pathetic job by Molina.
how is this cashman’s fault?
these players all underperform.
“Yanks should be in the dug-out taking notes. This is how a real team hits with RISP.”
Really? Think a Red Sox fan told them the same thing when they were losing 13-0 to the Rays?
What were you saying about the Yankees RISP when they came back in the 9th the other day after you wrote them off in the second?
Boston Dave,
I can agree with that. Unfortunately, those losses count just the same. Nobody feels bad for us.
Injuries or not, 13-12 (*IF we lose, I’m not giving up yet) is not acceptable. At all. When all those guys come back, we should pick it up but that’s putting a ton of pressure on all of them to get back quickly and perform immediately.
CB, I agree – look how Phil has handled Youkillis….He really does have terrific stuff. You see, though, that peole want to kill this kid. The only thing I question is this – are we going to judge the offense on a game to game basis? One day they’re great and one they’re lousy? I’m not sure that’s fair….Lester is a very good pitcher.
Tex needs to sit or he needs to drop. I’ve said before that I’ve never felt less worried about a player, but I’m starting to get frustrated with him.
“lester doesn’t leave the mound and quickly throws the next pitch.”
Come on man that’s goofy. You should know as a catcher that every pitcher has a different routine and pace. Some guys work quickly, some don’t.
all this two out damage hurt more
I was just about to post exactly what Singleton said. You can’t keep pitching Ortiz inside no matter how much he’s struggling. Any big league hitter can start hitting when they know exactly what’s coming.
“whats he driving? a ford edge?”
Maybe he should of then he would of had the ball…
Time for Aceves. Why? Why not.
espn really sucks.
Throw a breaking ball Philip.
Melky should’ve been in throwing position before he caught the ball.
“Tonight is absolutely nothing like those awful games he threw at this time last year when he was pitching with the fractured rib.
He’s going to be a very good pitcher. Very good. He has a very dynamic arm with terrific life on all of his pitches.
Just look at the pitches that have been in the zone. The Sox have hurt him when he’s gotten behind in the count or when he’s walked people. But they’ve been late on his fastball on many swings and haven’t squared up his cutter that well.”
Yeh I notice that too CB, he’s off today but it’s not dominated at every pitch type. The cutter has kept hitters honest, the one thing you hope for his confidence is that he gets to the 6th but I don’t see that tonight.
this team is Hughesless
Very simple the Sox have owned us since 04 ALCS. Thanks Kevin Brown, Javier Vazquez and company for blowing the series.
Maybe Teixeira can use some of that money he makes to buy a few hits. He’s absolutley awful. I can do that at the plate for free.
ESPN just said Youkilis was another product from the farm in the last few years.
Does six seasons still count as a few??
When will Cashman be held accountable?
Johan anybody?
cashman needs to be like jerry jones and start cutting people
I guess the Detroit game was a one time thing. This is the Hughes we saw last year
oh come on Youk, I didn’t stick the needle in that hard.
Jon Lester now holds the record for strikeouts in Yankee Stadium.
who is this tough guy?
Aceves next up?
Girardi could take that guy.
“I realize Teixeira isn’t looking good. But how is booing him going to help him hit?
Its like people think that he’s doing it on purpose.”
Sounds alot like #13 IMHO.
Yes, it does. And I feel the same way when people do it to #13 too.
“Very simple the Sox have owned us since 04 ALCS. Thanks Kevin Brown, Javier Vazquez and company for blowing the series.”
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really?
what is the head to head between the Sox and Yanks since 2004?
How is this Cashman’s fault? No, he’s the Magic Man with the Midas Touch.
WOW hughes got a call
Like anyone would put anything past the Sox. Is Selena going to write a book about the Sox and there tipping?
For whatever reason he’s pounding Youk tonight.
i just dont understand. why couldnt hughes come in here and dominate. has he pitched poorly. i was too busy making sure the celts didnt get handed another game.
good night guys… game over… NO BALLS on these guys… the pitcher has thrown all of them…. hehehehe
youkilis has the most annoying batting stance ever. Why is he shaking his butt every second. No one wants to see that
its about time hughes gotta called strike three and its about time girardi nutted up.
the Yanks can score 5 runs.
can the bullpen hold the Sox down?
Is Phil at 100 pitches yet?
‘You should know as a catcher that every pitcher has a different routine and pace. Some guys work quickly, some don’t.”
it’s also the sign of someone tentative and not trusting their stuff. he takes the glove off,goes for walk ,rubs the ball, thinks about things.
get the ball, throw the ball.
“Girardi could take that guy.”
With one arm and a blind fold.
““Very simple the Sox have owned us since 04 ALCS. Thanks Kevin Brown, Javier Vazquez and company for blowing the series.”
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really?
what is the head to head between the Sox and Yanks since 2004?”
2 championships to 0. That’s all that matters and we haven’t seen the 2nd round since.
lol the 1st base coach just called girardi a pr_ck lol
in for girardi-1st base coach brawl.
at least it will make this game somewhat interesting
Patrick, that’s ridiculous…….giving up on Phil already?
Pete’s post earlier today about how the team is evaluating injuries was spot on. Something is clearly wrong with Tex, and NOBODY benefits by keeping him in the lineup as opposed to giving him two weeks for treatment.
Positive signs from Hughes – Look at the two 2-2 fastballs he just threw Youkilis.
Youkilis is a terrific fastball hitter.
Youkilis was late on both of those pitches and each pitch was 90 mph.
Hughes fastball has a lot of life on it. Even when he’s throwing it in the low 90′s good fastball hitters are often late on it.
The stuff is there.
You dont put out the guy who put a light on this team last week, in a lose-lose game like this. This is the type of move I question Girardi as a manager.
Its wrong that certain fans want to sell hughes out.
cut the lead in half first, right? I would love it if TEX were to freaking show up offensively…
Night’s not a total loss so far: got to see Youkilis doubled-over in pain.
hey pete, is that you in the background of the joe girardi wikipedia picture?
Phil is at 94 pitches
Let’s see if we can get a run(s) here
JR — would you be complaining if a Yankee were hitting .400 but carried an “annoying” batting stance? Thanks for the cogent commentary,
JR — would you be complaining if a Yankee were hitting .400 but carried an “annoying” batting stance? Thanks for the cogent commentary,
Boston stealing signs? Wouldn’t surprise me at all. Even if proven true, MLB would do NOTHING about it. Now if the Yanks were caught stealing signs…forget about it…there would be a full-blown investigation.
I don’t know whether to assume that Girardi getting into it with the 1B coach brings much-needed emotion, or that it reveals how tight the mgr. is right now.
“Injuries or not, 13-12 (*IF we lose, I’m not giving up yet) is not acceptable.”
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take the best hitter off any team in baseball and see what happens?
Manny? Pujols, Youkilis?
you tell me what you think the effect is on the rest of the team and their record?
of course the yankees could be better and offense hasn’t been the problem, but it doesnt matter.
take the best hitter off any team and they are going to lose a few more games over the course of 25.
hughes killed my fantasy team
“Why is he shaking his butt every second. No one wants to see that”
Better question why the heck are you looking at it.
This blog is so manic-depressant geeeez. Will you guys stop going all or nothing on phil? Last game, he was the second coming of cy young to some in here and today, people are crying about why cash didnt trade phil for johan.
This is his second start this year and he is still 22. Give him some time and stop jumping to such ridiculous conclusions. HE WILL BE GREAT. He showed what he can do last game. He is still that pitcher. This is not phil of last year at all. He is still pitching much better despite the fact tat it is 4 to 0. How about the yanks offense? Where are they? If phil gave up one run, we would be losing right now.
“the Yanks can score 5 runs.
can the bullpen hold the Sox down?”
Not against Lester they will be lucky to get 2.
michael kay overcalling fly balls again, whats new?
“get the ball, throw the ball.”
Just because you think that’s the best way to pitch doesn’t mean it is. There are plenty of great pitchers that take their time and plenty of bad pitchers that work quickly.
OH Robi we need ya right now buddy.
Some really stupid things being said on here tonight.
Incessant whining and hyperbole by entitled fans. Ugh.
Hughes wasn’t bad tonight at all. He showed really good stuff when he threw strikes. But he got hurt by a couple of bad pitches, calls and plays. Molina’s pitch calling to Ortiz was VERY puzzling. You need to throw to different parts of the plate and then go back inside. 2 bad pitches to Ortiz, Molina passed ball, too many pitches, walks and then the pitch right down the middle to Lowell. He has far from bad but he will learn that in the majors 3 or 4 bad pitches cost you the game.
Justin…he called him an fn prck.
Again, I agree Dave. But it really doesn’t matter if we were missing guys or not. Losses are losses. Nobody feels bad. And sympathy isn’t going to get us into the playoffs or take away those losses.
Bandbox alright. Even the stadium isn’t consistent.
* and by “few” I mean 2-3, not the 6 that ESPN was saying when they said “few” (about Youkilis being a great Sox farm callup over the past few years)
“hughes killed my fantasy team”
Better question, after 1 start you put him on your fantasy team ?
why would the 1st base coach be saying those things to Girardi?
i want Hughes to go another inning. He hasn’t pitched that bad. If he gets a few calls he’s still in it. It could’ve been worse. And he’s owning youklis.
We can still come back.
frostnyc, is the censor suppose to read lips? They never censor someones lips lol
this seems to happen everytime someone with a High ERA faces the yankees they will pitch a gem.
Lester is getting so many damn calls……
Wow…Just wow. How can you possibly say that calls are being distributed fairly?
“Why is he shaking his butt every second. No one wants to see that”
“Better question why the heck are you looking at it.”
I’m a girl. I tend to notice these things
( although in youk’s case I sure wish i hadn’t)
These announcers are absolutely brutal to listen to.
“Ellsbury, Pedroia, Youkilis, Lester…you really gotta go back to Jeter and Pettite to find similar homegrown talent on the Yankees. That’s really been the difference the last few years.”
Yeah, I guess Joba doesn’t have an ERA under 3 over his MLB career, and Cano isn’t making a run at .400 right now, and Soriano wasn’t a 40/40 caliber player who was traded straight up for ALEX RODRIGUEZ.
“The Red Sox have depth from their farm system that the Yankees just don’t have these days. They can get a guy like Masterson to fill in when Dice-K is hurt, and they have a guy like Buchholz lighting it up at AAA. That’s a huge advantage for them over the Yankees.”
Did they happen to glance at the mound while they said that and notice a guy named Phil Hughes pitching? Are they completely unaware that Ian Kennedy has been dominating in AAA?
“I guess the Detroit game was a one time thing. This is the Hughes we saw last year”
This is absolutely nothing like the Hughes we saw last year.
It’s not even remotely close. It’s not even reminiscent of the way he was throwing last year.
Yankees from the farm – hughes, joba, cano, melky, gardner, Wang, Mo, jeter, posada, pena, Pettitte, melancon, veras, edwar, aceves and we have kennedy in triple A with Ajax and montero a little lower. Bruney also basically restarted his career with us becoming a totally new pitcher. Im sure I missed a few. Do the sox really have THAT many more players from the farm than we do? I highly doubt it but whatever.
How many K’s for Lester tonight? Over/under is 12.
is yes contractually obligated to show all the suits at the MOHEGAN SUN SPORTS BAR every game?
This is one of those games that Girardi might have to get thrown out of, even if for no other reason then to get tossed and perhaps spark his team. They look lifeless right now.
This blog is so manic-depressant geeeez.
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Sometimes this blog is worse that the Bellevue Hospital psych ward.
Maybe I’m over-eager to grab on to any excuse, but Pete’s earlier post about how the team is evaluating injuries has really gotten me worked up. Something is CLEARLY wrong with Tex, and nobody benefits by leaving him in the lineup and letting him work through it (and potentially get worse).
They need to figure out what’s wrong and, if need be, DL him for 15 days to get him healthy. $200+ million in payroll and you would think they would invest in a training staff that can do its job.
Tex is really taxing Yankees team and fans.
Redsox must be very happy now.
frostnyc – And you just dropped the ball on following blog rules.
“Lester is getting so many damn calls……”
He’s on another level, the Yankee kids want to get those calls they need to make a name for themselves. It’s gonna take time.
Lester is “picasso’ing ” the strike zone
why are they just standing there staring at the curveballs?
wow so surprised lester didn’t get that call
so I am to assume the 1st base coach, unprovoked, called Girardi a “P_I_K” — seems a little retarded
i would take a 5 game losing streak if girardi and the coach brawled.
lester’s hook is nasty tonight we are so fooled by it
dear god they just watch it in amazement.
“This is absolutely nothing like the Hughes we saw last year.”
Sorry but you’re wrong CB. His approach in today’s game is extremely similar to his approach last year. Sure he has a better curve and a cutter now but his approach is identical.
You even said it yourself – he is trying to be too perfect. That’s what got him into trouble last year. He tries to make the perfect pitch every time and ends up missing. Especially with a hitter’s umpire, that is the wrong way to do things.
LOL @ Lester thinking a ball would be called a strike. He is used to getting that call tonight.
He’s done some very positive things tonight and that’s what we need to take from this. Phil just didn’t have command tonight, but I think he’s just off – it’s not like last year where he was completely wild. Either he was overhyped tonight (Lester is not only very good, but he’s also more experienced than Phil) or he had a hard time handling the delay or it’s just inexperience, but Phil has made some great pitches tonight (along with some bad). Again, just take the positives from this outing. Sometimes I think Yankee fans don’t deserve home grown players – they have no patience whatsoever
He’s done some very positive things tonight and that’s what we need to take from this. Phil just didn’t have command tonight, but I think he’s just off – it’s not like last year where he was completely wild. Either he was overhyped tonight (Lester is not only very good, but he’s also more experienced than Phil) or he had a hard time handling the delay or it’s just inexperience, but Phil has made some great pitches tonight (along with some bad). Again, just take the positives from this outing. Sometimes I think Yankee fans don’t deserve home grown players – they have no patience whatsoever
Love the line about Bogar being a fan of the first amendment.
Oh yea I forgot about the guys we traded for talent we needed that came out of our farm like soriano, lilly, navarro, washburn, etc.
“Again, I agree Dave. But it really doesn’t matter if we were missing guys or not. Losses are losses. Nobody feels bad. And sympathy isn’t going to get us into the playoffs or take away those losses.”
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I agree… but to say the Sox are clearly the better team is tough. It’s hard to argue against that because they’re beating the Yanks so far, but once ARod comes back, it’s not clear at all, IMO.
I’m strictly saying that getting ARod back will tip the balance back in the Yankees favor in the Sox/Yanks comparison. I’m making some assumptions – that CC, AJ, Joba, Wang, etc will all pitch closer to their career averages (or in Joba’s case better than he has so far), but I don’t think they are wild assumptions.
Hughes did fine tonight. But did anyone expect, after the cancelled game yesterday, and the 2 hour delay that he was going to be as good as he was last week? Thats why I thought from yesterday that Hughes should have been skipped
Red Sox announcers crying about the 2-2 pitch to Posada.
Welcome to the club. Hughes got squeezed 8 times so far. But who’s counting.
I’d at least like to see the Yankees fight back and get in this one. If they still lose, so be it.
But I will say the Sox never give up. The Yankees can’t either.
Al, I don’t think too many folks are buying what you’re selling right now.
This is not the home of the Whopper.
2-1 fastball Melky takes that ?
Dave, I understand what you mean. Right now Boston is the better team because, well, they simply are better. They are 3-0 (possibly 4-0) vs. the Yanks this year and have a better record. Their bullpen is far better and the lineup is much more balanced (right now).
I don’t think this as much as Hughes having a bad line as it is the Sox being a completely superior team in every aspect of the game.
lesters zone compared to hughes zone was a day and night difference
finally someone was waiting for the curve.
Honestly, Girardi deserves kudos for keeping this team above .500. With the staff ERA and the absence of clutch hitting, it’s amazing they’re not well under .500.
“Meanwhile, Girardi was jawing with Boston first base coach Tim Bogar in the top of the inning. Not sure what that is all about. Maybe Bogar is a fan of the First Amendment.”
The first amendment? you really think Bogar is out there trying to defend the “reporters” wrt yesterday’s comments?
doubtful
Is that Yogi umping the plate??
this commentating is horrible. you’ve got Performing Orel “on the red sox” hershiser, along with the faux GM and the Engineer and architect Dan Shulman that knows that the dimensions are different than the old YS
we need someone to do a rain dance and make it pour for the rest of the night starting about now.
Come on guys stop this nonsense. Hughes was awful tonight. 4 IP,4 walks, 4 runs. I don’t care how he looked, that is terrible.
LOL @ Nick in SF
Ump is giving calls to Lester that are not given to Hughes. Awful.
so I am to assume the 1st base coach, unprovoked, called Girardi a “P_I_K”—seems a little retarded
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I believe Girardi was yelling at him first. Maybe he thought he was stealing signs?
I have to rewind. It was very weird
Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit drinking.
Ah, who am I kidding?
in hughes’ defense, he was being really squeezed. if the only strike you get it right overthe middle of the plate, you are going to get hit or walk everyone.
aceves in
Are we better than the Royals? Serious question.
If Tex was with Boston he would be batting over .300 because of the Green monster. Which is why nick green is hitting well.
One word for this team, embarrassment. Best we can do after getting swept is split at home against our biggest enemies. Sigh.
Hopefully Wang is still about a month away. Hughes looks like a totally different pitcher then what we saw last year. I am curious to how he looks after he gets a couple of more starts under his belt. I still believe that he is going to be a very good pitcher. Especially now that we see him throwing his cutter in to lefties and pitching in to righties. It stinks that if everything goes as planned they are going to have to send him back down. There is nothing else for him to learn in the minors.
“Hughes did fine tonight.”
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minus the complete lack of command, sure.
He has the stuff. He just needs to command it. Throw strikes and trust your stuff.
1 day into the “Aceves to the pen” movement…. success
“Sure he has a better curve and a cutter now but his approach is identical. ”
No. Last year his fastball had much, much less life on it. He was also throwing at a lower velocity.
He was also only throwing two pitches. His four seam fastball and his slow looping curve.
His fastball has much better life now – it’s not even remotely close to the pitch it was last year. Not even close. If you think it is you should go back and watch those games again.
Not only does he have that slow looping curve he has featured that much harder curve ball as well.
And on top of that he’s used his cutter fairly well.
With regards to “approach” this is very typical of young pitchers trying to be too fine against a very good line up. So if you’re comments are on that generic a level then I’ll agree with you.
But that wasn’t what your comment said. You said this is the same Hughes we saw last year and it’s not even remotely close.
Young pitchers often try to be too fine. Joba – with his arm – often tries to be too fine.
But last year Hughes stuff was not even close to as good and he physically couldn’t throw strikes as well.
This is a very different pitcher.
Alright Alfredo sauce. Please keep us in the game
ahhh a longman. nice to have one of these. I bet the bp falls in place now.
see if aceves keeps it close. he throws strikes, like the approach.
and hughes was nothing like the pitcher from last year, velocity is much better and the cutter is a real pitch. His control was terrible tonight, but it will come.
man this ump is seriously squeezing the yanks, maybe hes pissed they didn’t call the game
“Sorry but you’re wrong CB. His approach in today’s game is extremely similar to his approach last year. Sure he has a better curve and a cutter now but his approach is identical.
You even said it yourself – he is trying to be too perfect. That’s what got him into trouble last year. He tries to make the perfect pitch every time and ends up missing. Especially with a hitter’s umpire, that is the wrong way to do things.”
Actually Patrick your wrong. This Hughes isn’t one bit like last season, last season he walked the ballpark and gave extra base hit after extra base hit, only Mike Lowell has really gotten to him tonight. He’s been squeezed a few times but last yr. he couldn’t even battle out of the 2nd or 3rd inning. He has adjustments to make, and you saw him dominate Youkilis who is one of the best hitters in the game today, last yr instead of 4 – 0 it’d be 9 – 0, so a bit of improvement is there.
You cant just ignore the fact that we are missing Arod during all these games and wang has been anything but wang this season so far. Both of those things will change. Add to that the fact that we are missing bruney and marte who were both slated to compete for the setup role to start the season and it is clear, this team is better than what we are putting on the field right now. If we werre just missing guys like nady and marte, I would say fine, this team shouldnt be effected but when we are missing arod, we are not nearly as good of a team .
I dont understand where they get this crap that the sox are so clearly better in terms of development. They just dont know enough about the yanks farm to make those kinds of assumptions. Just because guys like lester, pedroia and ellsbury are producing more than Joba, hughes, cano and gardner/melky doesnt mean that our farm isnt just as good as far as overall development.
joe is going to get himself ejected. hope he goes all out.
“I believe Girardi was yelling at him first. Maybe he thought he was stealing signs?
I have to rewind. It was very weird”
just a guess, but the 1st base coach is about 4-5 feet behind the coaching box lines. Not sure why that would bother Girardi.
People on this board are ridiculous. Give Hughes a break. It’s one game. The guy was supposed to pitch yesterdat and then sits through a 2 hour delay today. What did you expect?
Everyone: Phil Hughes didn’t keep the Yankees out of the game. The offense has thus far.
and hughes approach wasn’t being too fine, he didn’t locate his curves, even the one youkilis took for strike three wasn’t where he wanted it. The fastballs away where tailing way off the plate.
“Maybe Bogar is a fan of the First Amendment.”
Seriously? Your a dope and that’s not funny.
great game going down in Toronto.
and Cleveland takes it 9-7 in 12 innings.
You cant just ignore the fact that we are missing Arod during all these games and wang has been anything but wang this season so far. Both of those things will change. Add to that the fact that we are missing bruney and marte who were both slated to compete for the setup role to start the season and it is clear, this team is better than what we are putting on the field right now. If we werre just missing guys like nady and marte, I would say fine, this team shouldnt be effected but when we are missing arod, we are not nearly as good of a team
I dont understand where they get this crap that the sox are so clearly better in terms of development. They just dont know enough about the yanks farm to make those kinds of assumptions. Just because guys like lester, pedroia and ellsbury are producing more than Joba, hughes, cano and gardner/melky doesnt mean that our farm isnt just as good as far as overall development.
I don’t know how to look at this game. Is it a really bad game and the Yankees are lucky to be down 4-0 OR is this one of those games where they need a couple hits and things fall into place?
Just can’t tell right now. It is interesting that hitting keeps alluding the Yankees in games following a day off.
It’s tough when the Red Sox have better players than us at nearly every position (in this game, SS and possibly 2B the exceptions).
Ok. The worse that happens tonight is that NYY loses one game to Boston and Baltimore in the standing. Toronto loses 9-7 in 12 innings.
Patrick May 4th, 2009 at 11:02 pm
Come on guys stop this nonsense. Hughes was awful tonight. 4 IP,4 walks, 4 runs. I don’t care how he looked, that is terrible.
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Not saying he had his best stuff. But after skipping a day after the postponement and the 2+ hour wait. And being squeezed by the ump when Lester got those calls. And only allowing 4 runs(3 earned). It could’ve been worse. And he struck out Youk twice.
I think Hughes was trying to make the perfect pitch because he saw with his last start and this one that he doesn’t get close pitches. Is it because umpires don’t think a young pitcher can throw pitches to the corners?! The strike zone was extremely small. So of course he is going to throw it over the plate he didn’t want to walk more batters.
wow…not tipping the pitches…hmmm. Real bush on the sox if they are. Other players have accused them of doing this at their park too.
Now Steve Phillips making stuff up.
These ESPN guys have not said a single positive thing about the Yankees or the Stadium.
What a joke.
Sorry not sure why Girardi can’t say what he wants to, but anyone else can share their opinions. the joel sherman article today was a piece of junk. that guy should actually try and have some insight for the games he covers for a change instead.
“Intestinal Fortitude” now pitching for the Yankees!
We will come back!
Go Yanks!
CB,
How many times can you say the same thing in one post? Okay I get it, you don’t think he’s pitching the same.
His stuff last year was different but you know that good command trumps pure ‘stuff’. Hughes sacrificed his command tonight just like he did last year in an attempt to be perfect every time out.
It doesn’t matter if his fastball has more life on it. The results are the same. The Yanks are in a big whole, he gave the team zero length and now the worst bullpen in the league is responsible for 5 innings.
I’m as big a fan of Hughes as anyone but lets be real, he did not look good tonight.
These announcers are just so predictably stupid – its like they purposely say things that they know will piss off the yankee fans watching i swear
Hughes has good stuff, just walked too many batter leading to trouble which could have been worse, he’s a good pitcher, he’ll be alright
BUHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!??
THE RED SOX DIDN’T SCORE?!!?!
people seriously gotta jump off the phil hughes sux band wagon. i realize last year was a lost year, but this is one bad start and to be honest i will take this over what we got out of wang this year every night. you can’t argue that he wasn’t being squeezed and it definitely played with his head and i’m sure the rain was a factor too(albeit there should be no excuses). he is still a 22 year old kid and is definitely looking better than last year. give the kid some time and i am certain if he stays in the rotation and is healthy we can expect 10-15 wins which is not bad for someone that was our sixth starter going. the kid is gonna be a stud for years to come…mark my words
just a guess, but the 1st base coach is about 4-5 feet behind the coaching box lines. Not sure why that would bother Girardi.
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Eh, who knows
Maybe Girardi should meet the red sox 1st base coach under the O’Neil banner after the game and settle things?
94 pitches in 4 innings speaks volumes as to how effective Hughes was.
Phil is 22 – he’s a baby, for pete’s sake. Look at what he’s done in just the span of a few months – he’s learned a cutter (and it’s a very good pitch for him) and a new curve. Phil deserves a lot of credit for that. He looks much bigger – more solid – and I saw a very confident pitcher out there. He’s 22 – is he supposed to be perfect right off the bat? Yankee fans are incredibly impatient – sheesh.
Haha I meant to say “in a big hole”
“Just because you think that’s the best way to pitch doesn’t mean it is.”
it looks like nervous energy combined with a tentativeness which is an odd combination.
taking a lot of time between pitches is not the sign of a confident pitcher.
Dude is tipping pitches? Get Selena Roberts on the case!!!
Didn’t the Yankees start out 0-4 against Boston in 07 or 06?
Aceves. The Worm. El Gusano.
I like this guy. He usually throws strikes. He made the most of his opportunity last season. Let’s hope he does it again.
“Meanwhile, Girardi was jawing with Boston first base coach Tim Bogar in the top of the inning. Not sure what that is all about. Maybe Bogar is a fan of the First Amendment.”
Sorry, Pete, have to throw the red flag on that one.
A joke premised on Joe Girardi being against the First Amendment? Aside from Selena Roberts’ misunderstanding – and that’s being charitable – during the Costas interview, where the heck does that come from?