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Game 26: Red Sox at Yankees

Posted by: Peter Abraham - Posted in Misc, Podcast on May 05, 2009 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

YANKEES (13-12)
Jeter SS
Damon LF
Teixeira 1B
Matsui DH
Cano 2B
Swisher RF
Cabrera CF
Pena 3B
Molina C

Pitching: RHP Joba Chamberlain (1-0, 3.13).

Chamberlain vs. the Boston hitters.

RED SOX (16-10)
Ellsbury CF
Pedroia 2B
Ortiz DH
Bay LF
Lowell 3B
Drew RF
Bailey 1B
Varitek C
Green SS

Pitching: RHP Josh Beckett (2-2, 7.22).

Beckett vs. the New York hitters.

TIME/TV: 7:05 p.m., YES, NESN.

WEATHER: The iPhone weather application says it’ll be sporadic rain and in the mid 50s tonight. If they played last night, they’ll probably figure out a way to play tonight. The tarp is down at the moment so don’t rush here to watch batting practice.

THE RIVALRY: The Yankees are 0-4 against Boston this season, getting outscored 31-20. The Yankees very easily could have won three of the games.”That doesn’t matter,” Derek Jeter said last night. “Bottom line is we lost and we need to get it going.”

BAD BLOOD? Joe Girardi got into a shouting match with Boston 1B coach Tom Bogar last night. Bogar was trying to steal signs and Girardi didn’t much like it. Bogar said a new uncharitable words in return. Girardi was steamed after the game last night. Steamed. It’ll be very, very interesting to see what happens tonight with Chamberlain and Beckett on the mound. Those guys are certainly not afraid to throw at somebody.

STRANGE STAT: Mark Teixeira joined Melky Cabrera (April 22) and Nick Swisher (April 29) as Yankees to home from both sides of the plate this season. In the prior history of the franchise, only eight other players had done that.

According to Elias, the Yankees are the first team since going back to at least 1969 to have three hitters homer from each side in the same season. Now before we get too carried away, Mickey Mantle used to do it in his sleep. But it is quite a quirk that three guys did it in 25 games.

BREAKOUT: Teixeira’s homer in the fifth inning broke a 2-for-29 slump. He homered again in the eighth inning but struck out with two runners on in the ninth.

PAPELBON NOT AVAILABLE? Boston closer Jonathan Papelbon threw 32 pitches last night, getting five outs. He could be unavailable this evening.

BUT MO IS: Meanwhile, Mariano Rivera hasn’t pitched since April 30.

A-ROD UPDATE: Alex is scheduled to play seven innings in the field today in Florida. In response to e-mails, there are NO plans for him to play for any of the minor-league affiliates. He’s going to stay in Florida extended spring. Check this post later on for updates.

TICKETS: I keep hearing from e-mailers and readers that the secondary market (StubHub.com, etc.) is flush with tickets at reasonable prices. In most cases, you can download these tickets and print them yourself. So if you’re looking to go to the game, you might want to check it out.

ON THE SOX: Remember, for news from the other side, visit WEEI.com and the Full Count Blog.

Back with much more later on.

UPDATE, 3:46 p.m.: Francisco Cervelli was called up from Double-A Trenton.

UPDATE, 4:06 p.m.: The Yankees are saying officially that Posada will be out 2-3 weeks. But within the clubhouse, the fear us that it could be more like 3-5 weeks.

UPDATE, 4:09 p.m.: A-Rod was 3 for 6 with two homers, a single and a lineout. He also had to make several plays in the field.

Sounds like a Friday return.

UPDATE, 5:28 p.m.: Just spoke to Jorge Posada He has a Grade 2 hamstring strain. That means it is highly unlikely he will be back in 2-3 weeks. He literally had trouble sitting in the chair in front of his locker when he spoke to us and winced when he straightened out his right leg.

Posada seemed pretty down.

“It’s disappointing, but I know I can come back,” he said. “But it’s tough on me, it’s tough on me because I worked really hard to come back. I did everything I could with my body to be back. It’s one of those things you can’t control. You try to stay positive but it’s not easy right now.”

If you’re keeping track the Yankees now have Posada, A-Rod, Xavier Nady, Chien-Ming Wang, Brian Bruney, Damaso Marte and Cody Ransom on the DL.

If you take any team in the game and remove the catcher, third baseman, right fielder, No. 2 starter and top two set-up men, that’s trouble.

Look at it this way, there are roughly 16 important players on the team. Eight position players, five starters, three top relievers. The Yankees are down six of them. That’s nearly 40 percent of their core players.

UPDATE, 5:45 p.m.: The tarp is down, the gates are open and it’s not raining. As far as I know, we’re looking at an on-time start.

UPDATE, 6:04 p.m.: Here is Joe Girardi’s pre-game press conference. Using my fancy editing program, I even deleted the dead spots in the beginning and the end. I’m quite the tech wizard.

At any rate, here is the manager talking about all the assorted issues:

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Oh, and they’re starting to pull the tarp. So if you’re wondering whether to come to the park, come to the park.

UPDATE, 6:22 p.m.: Via the AP, here is what A-Rod had to say after his game today:

“I have no idea about Friday. I feel good.”

He otherwise refused to take questions.

UPDATE, 6:44 p.m.: After the ruckus last night (see previous post), the Yankees today met with their security and staff people about improving communication with fans.

“We have about 5,000 game-day event staff,” spokesman Jason Zillo said. “Today we’re being proactive. We’ve met with supervisors and with all ranges of guest services people.”

Zillo said the team woukd make more announcements and post more scoreboard updates during delays.

“There should be once voice coming from the Yankees during any rain delay situation via either the PA announcer or scoreboard messages,” he said. “We recognize that we can give fans information more repetitively during a rain delay situation.”

Maybe I’m wrong, but I think once a fan is in the park, they should have enough common sense not to leave unless you hear an announcement. Trusting the word of some minimum-wage kid is not the best idea.

UPDATE, 6:48 p.m.: Via Chad Jennings and Mike Ashmore (thanks, guys), word is that the Yankees have re-signed RHP Humberto Sanchez. Makes sense. He’ll be rehabbing (as always) in Tampa and they’ll what they can get out of him. At least he’s not taking up space on the 40-man roster.

UPDATE, 6:59 p.m.: Baseball at 7:05 p.m. Field is ready, lineups being announced.

Oh, forgot to mention this before, Boston 1B Kevin Youkilis is out with a bad bruise on his side. It was the result of getting drilled by A.J. Burnett back in April and then again in the same spot last week Jeff Bailey is playing first.

UPDATE, 7:14 p.m.: Single, stolen base, single, single. Not the start Joba was looking for. He looks very uncomfortable on the mound and throwing a lot of breaking pitches.

UPDATE, 7:16 p.m.: Joba just hung a pitch and Bay hammered it into the left-field stands. 4-0 Boston after four hitters.

Bay owns the Yankees. He is 10 for 16 against them this season with three homers and 10 RBI.

UPDATE, 7:32 p.m.: Cano is 0 for his last 9.

UPDATE, 7:40 p.m.: Joba looked good in the second inning. Unfortunately that’s a little late to the party. … Meanwhile there are entire rows behind the plate that are empty. I realize it’s cold. But when the Yankees are playing the Red Sox, the the fourth, sixth and seventh row directly behind the plate should not be completely empty. That is a farce.

UPDATE, 7:56 p.m.: Strange game for Jobamania. He gives up five straight hits in the first inning and has since retired eight of the nine hitters he has faced, four by strikeout. It looks like it took him an inning to get started.

UPDATE, 8:03 p.m.: You have to give it up to Johnny Damon, he shows up against his old squad. That home run to the Pony League porch in right field makes it 4-3 Red Sox.

UPDATE, 8:08 p.m.: Thanks to Dave Pinto’s awesome Day By Day Database, I looked up Johnny against the Red Sox.

He is hitting only .266 as a Yankee while playing the Red Sox. But he has 11 homers and 37 RBI in 55 games. That’s not bad.

UPDATE, 8:20 p.m.: I’m sure the put-Joba-in-the-bullpen chuckleheads enjoyed the first inning. Meanwhile, he has struck out seven of the last 11 batters he has faced. This just in: He’s not going to be Bob Gibson every inning. He’s 23 and in his first full year as a big league starter. He’s figuring it all out. Give him a chance. He could be great. Not good, great.

Meanwhile, Ellsbury is out with a tight right hamstring. Jonathan Van Every replaced him.

UPDATE, 8:25 p.m.: Bad base-running mistake there by Melky as he was thrown out going to third. Nice throw by Pedroia. That’s on Rob Thomson to some degree.

I think if the Yankees tie this game, they will go on to win it.

UPDATE, 8:40 p.m.: Witness and behold Joba Chamberlain, who is filthy as filthy can be these last four innings. He has fanned 10 of the last 16 batters he has faced, eight of them looking.

Word around the league was that Chamberlain could not throw his slider for a strike and to lay off it. That is no longer the case.

Anybody who wants to waste this kid in the bullpen is clinically stupid.

UPDATE, 8:48 p.m.: Beckett might hit somebody this inning after Joba hit Bay.

UPDATE, 8:59 p.m.: Joba going back out for the sixth inning at 97 pitches. Jose Veras — shudder — is warming up.

UPDATE, 9:02 p.m.: Joba is finito after 108 pitches. Girardi got booed when he came to the mound. But you cant blame the manager for being cautious.

Joba’s line: 5.2 innings, 6 hits 4 runs, 4 earned, 2 walks, 12 strikeouts.

Now it’s raining. Uh, oh.

UPDATE, 9:06 p.m.: Joba had this place in the palm of his hand. The crowd was living and dying with every pitch.

UPDATE, 9:08 p.m: The last time a Yankee fanned 12 was Mike Mussina on May 7, 2007 at Seattle. The last Yankee to K 12 in the Boogie Down was Moose on Sept. 24, 2002.

But by all means, let’s use him in the eighth inning. That way he can strike out three guys.

UPDATE, 9:14 p.m.: Bad hop there for the Yankees as Swisher would have scored on that ball. Now it’s up to young Ramiro Pena.

The bench is Cervelli, Berroa and Gardner, what other choice do they have? This is where not having Nady hurts.

They really need to at least tie this. Because it’s an official game and if it’s called, they lose.

UPDATE, 9:31 p.m.: Looked this up on Baseball-Reference.com:

Chamberlain is the youngest Yankee to strike out 12 since Al Downing struck out 13 against the White Sox on June 21, 1964.

UPDATE, 9:40 p.m.: OK, enough of Jobamania for now. Yanks trail 4-3 and have Jeter on first. Okajima in to face Damon. Light rain here.

UPDATE, 9:49 p.m.: Albaladejo in to start the eighth inning. Maybe Melancon is out getting coffee for everybody.

UPDATE, 10:02 p.m.: It’s getting ugly here. Boston just scored an unearned run and there are fights breaking out in the bleachers. There are maybe — maybe — 50 people sitting the premium seats. The bleachers and upper deck are still pretty full, I’d say 70 percent.

UPDATE, 10:06 p.m.: Edwar with runners on base? It’s 6-3 and it won’t be for long.

That error by Pena opened the door up to this mess. As exciting as it was to watch Joba, they’re in trouble.

UPDATE, 10:11 p.m.: Well, Edwar ended the inning. 6-3 with two shots to get something done.

UPDATE, 10:21 p.m.: Hate to be mean, but I just laughed out loud. A guy in the premium seats was in his cell not paying attention to the game when a foul ball got him in the mid-section. His umbrella went flying. I do think he got the ball, however.

Hey, Mark Melancon is in.

UPDATE, 10:33 p.m.: My faith in Melancon is proving to be unfounded as he walks Pedroia and Ortiz.

The Yankees were last 0-5 to start the season against Boston in 1985. That led to Yogi Berra getting fired after 16 games. Meanwhile, Melancon has walked the bases loaded and the crowd is getting ugly. Girardi just pulled him.

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2,000 Responses to “Game 26: Red Sox at Yankees”

  1. Laura - Plug it in, change the world! May 5th, 2009 at 3:34 pm

    They will probably send Papelscumbag out there today as well.

  2. C May 5th, 2009 at 3:35 pm

    WE WIN!

  3. C May 5th, 2009 at 3:35 pm

    WE WIN!

  4. C May 5th, 2009 at 3:36 pm

    Tex Hits 2 more HR tonight

  5. Rishi May 5th, 2009 at 3:36 pm

    just have to make it a Mo not Paps situation late in the game

  6. Rishi May 5th, 2009 at 3:37 pm

    bryanhoch: Posada to DL, Cervelli up

  7. CaptainsCorner May 5th, 2009 at 3:38 pm

    Yanks need to get Mo into a game whether they have a lead tonight or tomorrow or not. His location hasn’t been great to start the season to begin with. If he doesn’t pitch for a week and then comes into the game with a 1 run lead and blows it..I wouldn’t be surprised.

  8. C May 5th, 2009 at 3:38 pm

    Pedoria and Youk getting too comfortable facing us Joba do something about it

  9. Aunt Becca-Optimist Prime May 5th, 2009 at 3:39 pm

    Cervelli’s really the only call the Yanks could make at the moment.

    meanwhile, check this out from last night regarding the strike zone. your eyes didn’t decieve you

    http://tinyurl.com/cu3j69

  10. Rishi May 5th, 2009 at 3:40 pm

    Anyone know of a Red Sox blog that might know if Youk is planning to play tonight? Curious, but not interested in doing any research :)

  11. C May 5th, 2009 at 3:40 pm

    where has GGBG Gone

  12. C May 5th, 2009 at 3:40 pm

    where has GGBG Gone

  13. Roger(the new amsterdam yankees ) May 5th, 2009 at 3:40 pm

    What do you guys think?
    You can’t ask molina to catch as many games as he did last year.Yankees must trade.
    But the question is:will they try to get a catcher just for now or will they try to get a number 1 catcher??

  14. Chris May 5th, 2009 at 3:42 pm

    What are you getting paid to advertise 3rd party ticket brokers now? Must be really padding the bank account along with Selena’s payments to believe ever word she says.

  15. JoeyA May 5th, 2009 at 3:43 pm

    The way this organization puts together teams and pays players for past performances and just hands out ludicrous contracts, you would think baseball is being banished from this country in 3 years.

    DOes this organization have ZERO foresight about anything?

    Yankees organization is worse than Wall street right now with how greedy and short termed they are with everything. Anything short of a championship this season, and we need to take a serious look in the mirror at what this teams hopes to accomplish in 3 years, cause we are going to be the first $200 million team to ever finish in last place.

    I swear, even the Orioles are better positioned for the next 3-5 years than this team is.

  16. PJ May 5th, 2009 at 3:44 pm

    Pete love to hear your thoughts on selena’s book, heard it is getting panned by many people in baseball, now im not saying what she is saying isnt true but dont you think its a little irresponsible to say something is definitely true but then provide no actual proof. doesnt seem like the great basis for a story/book if you care at all about your credibility and standards…imo she is looking more like a tabloid reporter than anything else

  17. Casanova Wong May 5th, 2009 at 3:44 pm

    I just got two 300 level seats for $30 each, normally $80 a piece. Booya.

  18. Tex's friend (Best starting 5 in the majors) May 5th, 2009 at 3:44 pm

    Any word on who will replace Posada?

  19. Josh May 5th, 2009 at 3:44 pm

    Michael Key Show: Posada officially on DL, Francisco Cervelli brought up.

  20. C May 5th, 2009 at 3:45 pm

    trade for Bengie and unite the brothers

  21. C May 5th, 2009 at 3:45 pm

    trade for Bengie and unite the brothers

  22. Rishi May 5th, 2009 at 3:46 pm

    has anyone indicated if it’s the 15-day dl or longer?

  23. LathamJoe May 5th, 2009 at 3:46 pm

    Hey JoeyA, become an Orioles fan for a few years…maybe we’ll welcome you when you come running back! :)

  24. tampayank May 5th, 2009 at 3:46 pm

    why not bring up Kevin Cash?

  25. ray (sox fan) May 5th, 2009 at 3:46 pm

    Rishi,

    This is from redsox.com although it really does not give a definite answer whether Youkilis will play tonight.

    “Youkilis was 0-for-3 on the night. He is hitting .393 with six homers and 20 RBIs. Jeff Bailey came into the game in place of Youkilis.

    Will Youkilis play on Tuesday?

    “I don’t know,” Francona said. “He was tight. I think we did the right thing by getting him out of there. He was actually kind of grimacing on those swings, but he said he was fine. Again, if you make a mistake with something like that, it’s not good.”

  26. Josh May 5th, 2009 at 3:47 pm

    15 day DL for Posada (per Michael Kay Show)

  27. Tex's friend (Best starting 5 in the majors) May 5th, 2009 at 3:47 pm

    kevin cash on dl

  28. SJ44 May 5th, 2009 at 3:47 pm

    Does anybody think they are rushing Arod back?

    Just playing in EST games, no live pitching in real game action, mo 9 innings played in any one game, and no sliding except for the pad.

    Just seems rushed to me.

    Given the way they have handled injuries the past, they don’t exactly inspire confidence with this stuff.

  29. Rishi May 5th, 2009 at 3:47 pm

    Thanks, Ray

  30. tampayank May 5th, 2009 at 3:47 pm

    as talented as Jorge is behind the plate, does anyone feel that it’s time to move on and look for a reliable/younger catcher? I doubt he plays more than 80 games the next 2 seasons

  31. C May 5th, 2009 at 3:48 pm

    anyone notice pudge is still out there?

  32. m May 5th, 2009 at 3:48 pm

    Today we win.

    So Girardi wouldn’t steal signs? Hmmm… Too bad Girardi didn’t give the booger eater the finger.

    But I love the fire I saw from him last night. Nice to hear he was still steamed about the sign stealing after the game.

    Let’s hope the guys can wake up from their slumber before the 6th inning.

  33. Dan May 5th, 2009 at 3:48 pm

    Thanks for the StubHub information Pete – looks like some really great deals right now. It is a little deceptive because the price listed isn’t the price you’ll actually pay – they tag on a $5 delivery fee (even for online printouts) and $5 (or 10%, whichever is more) as a fee so they can make a profit.

  34. Josh May 5th, 2009 at 3:48 pm

    Francisco Cervelli brought up instead of Kevin Cash because he’s on the 40 man roster. Cash is not.

  35. Rishi May 5th, 2009 at 3:49 pm

    Pudge is with Houston, I believe

  36. LathamJoe May 5th, 2009 at 3:49 pm

    SJ44:
    Of course he’s being rushed back. You, of all people, should know that this is a panic move by Front Office types and not genuine baseball people!

  37. m May 5th, 2009 at 3:50 pm

    Pudge is playing. Marlins? Brewers? Some small market team.

  38. Al from BK May 5th, 2009 at 3:51 pm

    What we need tonight is a blow-out and Joba going 7.

  39. SJ44 May 5th, 2009 at 3:51 pm

    Cash is on the DL and isn’t on the 40 man roster.

    Cervelli is the only other catcher on the 40. Hence, the callup.

  40. C May 5th, 2009 at 3:51 pm

    also we can trade for Miguel Olivo or Ryan Doumit

  41. Tex's friend (Best starting 5 in the majors) May 5th, 2009 at 3:52 pm

    houston. pudge is in houston.

  42. Billy May 5th, 2009 at 3:52 pm

    Doesn’t matter about the 40-man, Cash would have been a no-brainer. Cashman didn’t sign him to have him sit at AAA. He is close to being activated as it is. He gets some AAA at-bats, he will be brought up, Cervelli down.

  43. Bob(The Original) May 5th, 2009 at 3:52 pm

    Yes SJ, I agree they seem to be rushing him back, and I fully expect either a horrible start or a setback.

    I’m so disgusted with Cashman right now over this whole catching situation. I just can’t get over how he dropped the ball big time on this during the offseason.

  44. tmp May 5th, 2009 at 3:52 pm

    “BAD BLOOD? Joe Girardi got into a shouting match with Boston 1B coach Tom Bogar last night. Bogar was trying to steal signs and Girardi didn’t much like it.”

    Sort of a baseless assertion that TIM Bogar was trying to steal signs, as he denied it. You’re just accepting Girardi’s version and discounting Bogar’s?

  45. C May 5th, 2009 at 3:53 pm

    Kevin Cash has more mlb experience than Cervelli

  46. tampayank May 5th, 2009 at 3:53 pm

    stubhub is great for anyone that hasn’t tried it, you have the commission and shipping fee but it’s very secure…they guarantee that if you have any issue w/ a fake ticket or other issue, they’ll still get you into the game

  47. Tex's friend (Best starting 5 in the majors) May 5th, 2009 at 3:53 pm

    cash hasnt played since april 14. what happened to him?

  48. SJ44 May 5th, 2009 at 3:54 pm

    Pudge is with the Astros.

    Joe,

    That concerns me. It’s going to take him time to get back and rushing him back isn’t the answer, IMO.

  49. Billy May 5th, 2009 at 3:54 pm

    Cash hurt his shoulder sliding into a base, I believe. CJ said he’s throwing and is closer to being active then he though.

  50. Zach Lawrence May 5th, 2009 at 3:54 pm

    Don’t expect much of Cervelli at the plate: AVG:.190 HR:2 RBI:7

  51. Tex's friend (Best starting 5 in the majors) May 5th, 2009 at 3:55 pm

    Sort of a baseless assertion that TIM Bogar was trying to steal signs, as he denied it. You’re just accepting Girardi’s version and discounting Bogar’s?

    ___

    tell me you at least side with a-rod against the stupid accusation he was passing off signs too, since those are also baseless.

  52. C May 5th, 2009 at 3:55 pm

    “Sort of a baseless assertion that TIM Bogar was trying to steal signs, as he denied it. You’re just accepting Girardi’s version and discounting Bogar’s?”

    Why will he admit to trying to steal signs?

  53. pat May 5th, 2009 at 3:56 pm

    Alex was 3-6 with 2 HR and a single today. One of HR cleared the 40 foot batters eye. He played 7 innings in the field, had no comment on anything non-baseball related and said he had not heard when he would rejoin the team.

  54. tmp May 5th, 2009 at 3:57 pm

    tell me you at least side with a-rod against the stupid accusation he was passing off signs too, since those are also baseless.

    -

    Who cares about A-Rod? My point is you can’t say Bogar was trying to steal signs, maybe “allegedly” or “Girardi accused Bogar of trying to steal signs.” Poor reporting.

  55. Doreen May 5th, 2009 at 3:57 pm

    SJ44 -

    I think he’s being rushed, too. Not comfortable with it at all. But, they never called to ask. :lol:

  56. SJ44 May 5th, 2009 at 3:58 pm

    Well, it may not matter to you but, they don’t want to release someone to add Cash (who can’t play anyway now since he’s hurt) or anybody else right now.

  57. Rishi May 5th, 2009 at 3:58 pm

    Rishi
    May 5th, 2009 at 1:24 pm
    “Initially, Terry Francona, the Red Sox manager, spoke playfully about the incident by saying Girardi was asking about Bogar’s family and that Bogar said, “Everybody is O.K. at home.” But, when Francona was asked if Girardi had accused Bogar of tipping pitches, he turned serious.

    “They could have,” Francona said. “I really don’t care.””

    http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05.....imessports

  58. Billy May 5th, 2009 at 3:58 pm

    “Don’t expect much of Cervelli at the plate: AVG:.190 HR:2 RBI:7″

    Pretty much the only option though. Stewart and Cash are hurt and PJ has thrown out 2-of-18 baserunners.

  59. talltenor May 5th, 2009 at 3:58 pm

    StubHub is a good deal. I’m glad the Yankees and MLB came on board and they all now work together, unlike a few years back when the Yanks tried to bully season ticket holders into not reselling seats to a given game.

    Somebody is probably getting a piece of the action, is why. But it’s still a good deal!

  60. Roger(the new amsterdam yankees ) May 5th, 2009 at 3:58 pm

    what will it take to get olivio??

  61. Zooboy May 5th, 2009 at 3:59 pm

    Quick! Somebody get Swish a catcher’s mitt!

  62. Bob(The Original) May 5th, 2009 at 4:00 pm

    Roger(the new amsterdam yankees )
    May 5th, 2009 at 3:58 pm
    what will it take to get olivio??

    ———————

    Does it matter?

    Cashman will either do nothing or go sign some 35 year old from the Mexican league and get all giddy when anyone mentions his name.

  63. RussW210 May 5th, 2009 at 4:01 pm

    They Yankees have more money on the DL than the Marlins have for their entire team.

  64. MaineYankee May 5th, 2009 at 4:01 pm

    SJ44

    Boston has had there shair of injury problems that make you wonder about them as well.

    They signed Schilling and then he couldn’t pitch because of a shoulder problem that they should have known about.

    Lowerie had the wrist problem last year that didn’t get operated on till this season.

    Papelbon has had shoulder problems almost every year. They have to be carefull how much they use him because of it.

    Dice-K Has had a tired arm at least the last two years.

    Not trying to defend the Yankees, just showing that the RS aren’t perfect in this area either.

  65. SJ44 May 5th, 2009 at 4:01 pm

    To many rushed decisions for my tastes, Doreen.

    Oh well, let’s hope they can at least win tonight and go from there.

  66. nj23nut May 5th, 2009 at 4:02 pm

    C’mon Joba! 7+ innings, 1 Run 11 K’s should be a nice night! ;)

    The Yanks REALLY need to win this game. Can’t do an 0-fer against the Sox in the first 30 games of the season. They just CAN’T!!!

  67. Bob(The Original) May 5th, 2009 at 4:02 pm

    Maybe at least Cervelli will get a chance to get some revenge against the Rays tomorrow and Thursday.

  68. Bob(The Original) May 5th, 2009 at 4:02 pm

    Maybe at least Cervelli will get a chance to get some revenge against the Rays tomorrow and Thursday.

  69. trisha - click to see my bigger and better Opening Day photos May 5th, 2009 at 4:02 pm

    Off Topic but I need to say it somewhere.

    I just did something very scary. I submitted my letter of resignation at work. I am leaving with regret but a new situation at work was such that I would have been unhappier staying than going. It was totally my choice. And no I have no job I am going to. I guess I will do some pro bono stuff for a while…

    Thanks for listening. I wish my dad were here to advise me, though I think he would tell me to stay where I am. Fathers are like that.

    OMG I can’t believe what I just did.

  70. D May 5th, 2009 at 4:02 pm

    C is my dumber younger brother. Read all of his posts, he is 10 years old and doesnt really know anything about baseball.

  71. Rishi May 5th, 2009 at 4:02 pm

    at least Pena’s back in there

  72. Rishi May 5th, 2009 at 4:03 pm

    best of luck, Trisha…

  73. dennis-costanza(sox fan) May 5th, 2009 at 4:04 pm

    MaineYankee.

    Hope you are well. Every team has issues. The Red Sox are flawed in many ways. I believe the points though that SJ, CB and RandyI have made is that the construction of the roster has not been benfeficial and or flexible for on the fly moves for injuries the last few years.

    -dennis

  74. SJ44 May 5th, 2009 at 4:04 pm

    The Red Sox find solutions to their problems much better than the Yankees do.

    It’s one of the main things seperating the two teams right now.

  75. trisha - click to see my bigger and better Opening Day photos May 5th, 2009 at 4:06 pm

    Thanks Rish. (yeow)

    :)

  76. tampayank May 5th, 2009 at 4:06 pm

    “RussW210
    May 5th, 2009 at 4:01 pm
    They Yankees have more money on the DL than the Marlins have for their entire team.

    and they might actually compete in the NL East, amazing all the Young talent they keep developing then unload

  77. LathamJoe May 5th, 2009 at 4:06 pm

    Yogi can still wear a uniform…and he’s equally as agile on foul pops!

    SJ44: I agree with you. There are too many hands in trying to run the Yankee organization right now. Its almost seems to be returning to the New York-Tampa times of confusion.
    The Steins-Cashman-Levine-Newman – who’s making baseball decisions???

  78. dennis-costanza(sox fan) May 5th, 2009 at 4:07 pm

    Holy Smoke Trisha. That took guts. I hope it works out the way you want it to.

    -dennis

  79. Bad Scooter May 5th, 2009 at 4:07 pm

    I agree with you on Arod SJ. He’ll be back too early. No sliding? EST games only? He’ll come back and probably struggle early. He can’t be ready to go after the surgery and minimal time in Florida. He’ll need a good 2-3 weeks to get going once he’s back. Hopefully the fans will understand this, doubt it though.

  80. Betsy May 5th, 2009 at 4:07 pm

    Yes, they’re rushing Alex. The Yanks even a couple of years ago used to be an organization that would give a player one or two extra days off even after they were cleared to play. Now? They allow Damon to play without getting his shoulder examined, they played Jorge – it’s inexcusable.

    Did Kay say how badly the hamstring was strained? Is it closer to 3/4 weeks than it is to two?

  81. pat May 5th, 2009 at 4:08 pm

    Good luck Trisha. I dream of doing that somedays.

  82. Tex's friend (Best starting 5 in the majors) May 5th, 2009 at 4:08 pm

    The NL East isnt exactly the AL East. Love to see how the Marlins do playing NY, Boston, Tampa, Baltimore and Toronto 18 times a year.

  83. Bad Scooter May 5th, 2009 at 4:09 pm

    Trisha – I hope you didn’t make a snap decision with that and actually thought it through first.

  84. Giuseppe Franco May 5th, 2009 at 4:10 pm

    I swear, even the Orioles are better positioned for the next 3-5 years than this team is.

    ————-

    Then go root for the Orioles and stop you’re whining.

    It never fails, overreactions on this site increase 1000% when the Yanks lose to the Red Sox.

  85. Eric May 5th, 2009 at 4:10 pm

    how come Berroa is not dead or DFA’d? btw, i was at the game last night(going tonight as well), it’s ridiculous how they made everyone wait around while it was misting for 2 hours.

  86. Jonathan Everett May 5th, 2009 at 4:10 pm

    I can’t recall a time where you could get tickets for the Yankees vs Sox day of game at field level for 30 bucks a ticket. Insane. If I lived anywhere near, I would be at every darn game.

  87. Bob(The Original) May 5th, 2009 at 4:11 pm

    Hey Pete, maybe you should ask Girardi if he thinks Bogar was trying to steal signs because A-Rod wasn’t there to just give them to him?

  88. RayVT May 5th, 2009 at 4:11 pm

    trisha

    I wish you the best. But as an older person perhaps with some insight as to what a Father might say to his daughter I offer this to you!

    No matter what happens or where or even if you work, you are loved by your true family and friends. Life is too short to spend time working or associating with people or issues that rob you of your joy or quality of life. Put the same tough focus on getting a new position as your heart went thru on resigning at this one and you will be better than okay! I have found every job tough to leave and every new position fill with possibilities!!

    Good Luck & Best wishes!
    Ray

  89. Teixeiramvp (JobaCyYoung) May 5th, 2009 at 4:12 pm

    If we have A-Rod we win a lot of these games, which is why I’m not worried.
    That being said, Yankees HAVE to win tonight after losing game one. There are two ways to look at this, if they win, optimistic and pessimistic. Pessimistic is Red Sox have won four of five from the Yanks. Optimistic would be that the Yanks lost one series and split another-not an embarassing result. Of course for optimistic to make sense they have to win tonight.

  90. tommy May 5th, 2009 at 4:12 pm

    Wow Josh you listen to the Michael Kay show? I hear that’s worse than waterboarding. Kay should thank God for Sterling, Suzyn Waldman,Hawk Harrelson and the Marlins announcers or he’d be the worst announcer around. C were you dropped on your head as a child? Just wondering.

  91. Teixeiramvp (JobaCyYoung) May 5th, 2009 at 4:12 pm

    Good for you trisha.

  92. CaptainsCorner May 5th, 2009 at 4:13 pm

    So basically when they say 2-3 weeks..it means more like 4-6. I still think they will be fine as long they get this bullpen figured out. For the msot part the lineup is not the problem. They are getting Arod back in a couple of days. They need 2 more arms to get the ball to the 9th. Whether it is Melancon, Robertson, Jackson or Veras they need someone to step up.

  93. MaineYankee May 5th, 2009 at 4:13 pm

    Dennis

    I was refering to some of their comments in regards to the RS being better at testing for injuries and dealing with them sooner.

    I will say they started turning their roster over sooner so they do have an advantage there.

    I agree the Yankees are playing catch up at this time.

  94. Doreen May 5th, 2009 at 4:14 pm

    Oh, Trisha – it must have been intolerable to leave without somewhere to go to. Best of luck to you.

  95. trisha - click to see my bigger and better Opening Day photos May 5th, 2009 at 4:14 pm

    Dennis, seriously sometimes I don’t know if it’s guts or stupidity. A lot of people around me told me not to do it, to wait until tomorrow, to sleep on it, etc. But I know that the situation wasn’t going to be one I could work with. I am leaving with great regrets because I really love my job. But I’ve always been someone who’d go to the wall for a principle…

    Truth is I’m scared to death because this was unplanned, and I really have no immediate direction, other than to practice some pro bono law just to do something with my life.

    Thanks for caring.

    Pat, thanks. I’m afraid it’s not as glamorous as it sounds!

    I just became a ship without a rudder, or something.

  96. tommy May 5th, 2009 at 4:14 pm

    Amazing how bad the Al central is. The Tribe were my sleeper.

  97. tommy May 5th, 2009 at 4:14 pm

    Amazing how bad the Al central is. The Tribe were my sleeper.

  98. bodhisattva May 5th, 2009 at 4:15 pm

    trisha – click to see my bigger and better Opening Day photos
    May 5th, 2009 at 4:02 pm
    Off Topic but I need to say it somewhere.
    I just did something very scary. I submitted my letter of resignation at work. I am leaving with regret but a new situation at work was such that I would have been unhappier staying than going. It was totally my choice. And no I have no job I am going to. I guess I will do some pro bono stuff for a while…
    Thanks for listening. I wish my dad were here to advise me, though I think he would tell me to stay where I am. Fathers are like that.
    OMG I can’t believe what I just did.
    ==========================

    Trisha,

    Sometimes it takes guts to leave a job, especially if you ARE going on gut instinct. You are a survivor. I can tell by the way you duke it out on here, and I mean that in the most complimentary way.

    (BTW: My Dad, at the Old Stadium, used to bellow to the ump: “Hey Blind Man! Where’s your Seeing Eye dog?” No one had lungs like him, and no one was ever gentler and kinder, or a bigger Yankee fan. I’m sure your Dad is over your shoulder, and I don’t just mean that metaphorically).

    From one big-hearted brawler to another – follow your heart and you will not be led astray.

    Off to the Bronx. Go Yanks!

  99. Bill May 5th, 2009 at 4:16 pm

    Just looking @ the NYY 25 man roster, after ARod gets back, assuming Berroa does to SWB and Matsui is DH and they still carry 13 pitchers; the bench will be Gardner, Pena and Cervelli. Wow?

  100. frankie c from italy May 5th, 2009 at 4:16 pm

    weather.com says cloudy till 10pm then light rain
    i think we are going to play!!!
    yay

  101. JIm May 5th, 2009 at 4:17 pm

    Good luck Trish, I did that once, but the economy wasn’t quite so bad. But not working is so much better than going into a job you hate. That being said, I’ve been laid off for 12 months now. I wish you the best!!

  102. dennis-costanza(sox fan) May 5th, 2009 at 4:17 pm

    RayVT.

    Great post.

  103. Billy May 5th, 2009 at 4:17 pm

    “jon heyman is a retard. Lester is not in the class of greinke and hanly ramirez”

    I hate the Sox but he’s pretty close.

  104. Bob(The Original) May 5th, 2009 at 4:17 pm

    tommy
    May 5th, 2009 at 4:14 pm
    Amazing how bad the Al central is. The Tribe were my sleeper.

    —————————-

    Your sleeper?

    Everyone and their uncle was picking them as the favorites.

    And they probably still have the best shot at it.

  105. tommy May 5th, 2009 at 4:17 pm

    Larry Beinfest is the best gm in Baseball imo. Ed Wde and Omar Minaya are the worst with Cash somewhere in the middle to the back end of the pack.

  106. tommy May 5th, 2009 at 4:17 pm

    Larry Beinfest is the best gm in Baseball imo. Ed Wde and Omar Minaya are the worst with Cash somewhere in the middle to the back end of the pack.

  107. SJ44 May 5th, 2009 at 4:17 pm

    I would guess Posada is out 6 weeks.

    He shouldn’t come back until he is 100%.

    That means, they have to go get a catcher.

    Molina and Cervelli aren’t enough.

    Got a ton of pitching in the system. Time to use it, and get a catcher.

    It’s a No Excuses season. Just go to work and get it done.

  108. Rose May 5th, 2009 at 4:17 pm

    Losing Posada will be a big blow. They lose a hitter and a fiery leader. Remember how they did last year without him.

    Too bad Molina cannot hit like his 2 brothers.

    Alex should not be rushed back. If he is, it is a desperate move by the Yanks.

  109. Jeff May 5th, 2009 at 4:18 pm

    In 3 years, Baltimore WILL be better than us

    We’re going to be the Knicks pretty soon with the way we’re going. Just a bloated payroll with 0 results.

  110. pc69 May 5th, 2009 at 4:18 pm

    Giuseppe Franco
    May 5th, 2009 at 4:10 pm
    I swear, even the Orioles are better positioned for the next 3-5 years than this team is.
    ——————-
    Then go root for the Orioles and stop you’re whining.
    It never fails, overreactions on this site increase 1000% when the Yanks lose to the Red Sox.

    Giusseppe, ignore it man! Focus on the real comments.

  111. Doreen May 5th, 2009 at 4:18 pm

    SJ44 -

    Frankly, I’m not all that surprised. Once Ransom went down, as long as Alex didn’t backtrack in his rehab, he was going to finish it up here. :(

    The Yankees behave as if they are desperate sometimes. Now, we as fans, we’re allowed to be slightly dizzy and over the top; we have no accountability or responsibility. I just hope this turns out okay.

  112. Tex's friend (Best starting 5 in the majors) May 5th, 2009 at 4:19 pm

    a-rod was coming back friday before posada got hurt

  113. Billy May 5th, 2009 at 4:19 pm

    The Yankees have to deal for a catcher even if they overpay a bit. I wouldn’t rush Posada at all. He’s one tear from being gone for the season. They can’t take that chance. Hopefully Cervelli handle the challenge but he’s not the answer, not even part of the equation.

  114. jonathan May 5th, 2009 at 4:20 pm

    sj: which young pitchers would you deem expendable.
    i certainly wouldnt touch mccallister (sp?)

  115. Comstar May 5th, 2009 at 4:20 pm

    “UPDATE, 4:09 p.m.: A-Rod was 3 for 6 with two homers, a single and a lineout. He also had to make several plays in the field.

    Sounds like a Friday return. ”

    Yay, another rushed player. Would anyone be shocked if he starts off in a deep slump because he is hesitant and not ready and ends up getting hurt after a month?

  116. Bob(The Original) May 5th, 2009 at 4:20 pm

    SJ, you’re right, they have to go out and get someone.

    But do you really think they will? I mean other than some other garbage retread off the scrap heap?

    I don’t.

  117. tommy May 5th, 2009 at 4:20 pm

    I meant my sleeper to go to the World series. I know the vast majority picked them to win the central. I also picked my yanks to finish in third place and ditto for the Mets.

  118. Aaron May 5th, 2009 at 4:21 pm

    I was at a game in Toronto a few years back when Posada and Bernie hit homeruns form eachside of the plate in the same game

  119. Tex's friend (Best starting 5 in the majors) May 5th, 2009 at 4:21 pm

    3 years and baltimore will be better?

    maybe the lineup, but they still have zero pitching.

  120. Giuseppe Franco May 5th, 2009 at 4:21 pm

    In 3 years, Baltimore WILL be better than us

    ———-

    Until they start developing young pitching – something they haven’t done in more than a decade – they aren’t going to be better than anyone in the AL East.

  121. SJ44 May 5th, 2009 at 4:22 pm

    Trisha, sometimes, reflection time is a good thing.

    Work is part of our lives. It’s not our whole life.

    It’s all about balance.

    Take your time and find a gig that gives you such balance.

  122. trisha - click to see my bigger and better Opening Day photos May 5th, 2009 at 4:22 pm

    “Trisha – I hope you didn’t make a snap decision with that and actually thought it through first.”

    Scooter actually I’ve had a few months to think about it but didn’t think it would come to this. Briefly, my office is being moved and we are being thrown into a space that isn’t even the size of my office now, and my assistant and I are going to be forced to work in the same space with just some kind of ridiculous partition for privacy. My job is defined by privacy and confidentiality, but my boss, when she gets an idea in her head, runs with it. I could stay here and have my effectivness compromised. Bottom line, I am not leaving because I want to.

    RayVT, your post has me in tears. I really needed to hear that, and I thank you so much.

    Tex and Doreen, thanks. I am sitting here in kind of a dream state…

  123. jonathan May 5th, 2009 at 4:22 pm

    a trade out of the blue for everyone: would you trade some wings to cleveland for victor martinez?
    just a thought

  124. Luke May 5th, 2009 at 4:22 pm

    They better win today and better play well

    0-5 against Boston is NOT an option for us.

  125. MaineYankee May 5th, 2009 at 4:22 pm

    Trisha

    I hope that even though this was a hard decision that you move foward with some sense of peace knowing that you wouldn’t be happy staying.

    Who would have thought that some on here have a heart with some of the battles that go on. :lol:

  126. JoeyA May 5th, 2009 at 4:23 pm

    Jorge
    Marte
    Bruney
    Wang
    Nady
    Alex

    Super year so far. Damon isn’t being treated for his shoulder, since we have SOO MANY options for the outfield. And our 3B, that we have for NINE more years, is being rushed from HIP surgery.

    Looks like another uphill battle this summer, except now it looks like we have 3 competitive teams in the East, not just two.

    Man, what 2-3 years of forgoing the playoffs in order to rebuild a core would have done for this team with all the money it has.

    Now, we revel in the ability to say we make the playoffs every year.

    I’ll give 8 straight years of playoffs for 6 years of rebuilding, getting knocked out of the ALDS in the 2nd round, and winning the WS next year.

    Apparently, this organization would rather put together a team that has the potential to make the playoffs every year and cross their fingers for the 100 different things that are likely to go wrong.

    It’s not rocket science why teams like the Royals, Rays, and, as far as now, the Jays are becoming more competitive and don’t deal with half the injuries we do.

    They build through young, athletic players and forgo seasons to see the bigger picture. We can’t do that while we charge people $1,000+ per game.

  127. chris nj May 5th, 2009 at 4:24 pm

    send kennedy to texas for one of their young C. obly team with a surplus. boston wanted to that earlier in the offseason but texas wanted to much. beat boston out again for the player they wanted.

  128. Bob(The Original) May 5th, 2009 at 4:24 pm

    Tex’s friend (Best starting 5 in the majors)
    May 5th, 2009 at 4:21 pm
    3 years and baltimore will be better?

    maybe the lineup, but they still have zero pitching.

    —————————–

    You’d better do your homework. Baltimore has some really promising arms in their system. McPhail is doing a great job with them. If Angelos stays out of the way, they are going to be good, and when they get good they will get great support and have tons of money to spend.

  129. Someone Else May 5th, 2009 at 4:25 pm

    “I would guess Posada is out 6 weeks.

    He shouldn’t come back until he is 100%.

    That means, they have to go get a catcher.

    Molina and Cervelli aren’t enough.

    Got a ton of pitching in the system. Time to use it, and get a catcher.

    It’s a No Excuses season. Just go to work and get it done.”

    Stop saying ‘get somebody, trade something’.

    Name names. Who would you target? What do you think it would take to get them?

    Could the Yankees land a Salty/Teagarden/Ramirez for a package that does not include Hughes/Melancon/Jackson/Montero (the ‘untouchables’)?

    Would you see if the Mets want salary relief for Ramon Castro? He’s a slight improvement offensively over Molina, but nothing special, really.

  130. Bob(The Original) May 5th, 2009 at 4:25 pm

    How about IPK to the Rangers for Max Ramirez?

  131. Rose May 5th, 2009 at 4:26 pm

    trisha

    Nothing is worse than dreading going to work. Know in your heart you made the right decision.
    You will succeed. Keep the faith, you will find something better.

  132. tommy May 5th, 2009 at 4:26 pm

    Catcher is one of the weakest positions in Baseball these days. One of the main reasons Posada got a 4 year deal and varitek got a 2 year deal. Mauer and McCann are the elite of the elite and there’s not much else after them. Posada(who really is a dh) Martinez(who belongs at 1b or dh) and Martin are really the only other fairly productive guys,

  133. SJ44 May 5th, 2009 at 4:26 pm

    Problem is, Arod returning replaces Posada in the lineup. It doesn’t lengthen it.

    They REALLY need the pitching to get going now. Their grace period for getting going is officially over.

  134. Someone Else May 5th, 2009 at 4:27 pm

    “a trade out of the blue for everyone: would you trade some wings to cleveland for victor martinez?
    just a thought”

    HAHAHAHAHAHA

    Cleveland would start at Joba+Hughes.

  135. Jerzz May 5th, 2009 at 4:27 pm

    Losing Posada and getting back A-Rod means nothing. Yeah, we have a more talented hitter but we are still going to have the automatic out in the lineup. Except it will be Molina instead of Pena.

    So unless the starters start throwing to their career norms and our youngsters have limited growing pains and our bullpen miraculously turns around…. it is going to be a long year. Let’s see what Cashman has up his sleeve.

  136. S.A.--It's a marathon, not a sprint May 5th, 2009 at 4:27 pm

    The Yankees are saying officially that Posada will be out 2-3 weeks. But within the clubhouse, the fear us that it could be more like 3-5 weeks.

    ==============================

    Ugh. This just sucks

    Anyways, let’s win this game tonight. Go Jobber!

  137. thunderfangabe May 5th, 2009 at 4:27 pm

    good luck, trisha!

  138. Teixeiramvp (JobaCyYoung) May 5th, 2009 at 4:27 pm

    Posada hurt is huge. Really huge. They lose a massive bat, and our pitching and production from other parts of the lineup (cough A-Rod and Tex cough) has to make up for it for us to do well.
    How could the Yankees have let this happen? Idiots.

  139. tommy May 5th, 2009 at 4:27 pm

    Btw you aren’t getting other teams jewels with your dreck(Kennedy)

  140. G. Love May 5th, 2009 at 4:27 pm

    I think the difference between the Sox and the Yanks is recent success and building confidence off of that.

    Players know what’s expected of them in Boston and the clubhouse seems to come together in a common goal. Lowrie goes down, Green steps in and does the job.

    Papelbon can’t close one night so Saito proves he’s up to the task.

    A lot of credit should go to Francona who has fostered a nice unity over there that is reminiscent of what Torre had before he became St. Joe.

    No one is bigger than the team in Boston anymore since Manny left.

    They police that stuff themselves and have a lot of team first types. Youkilis would jump to play 3rd if Lowell went down without squawking about it and he’s one of the best 1b in the league now.

    That’s the difference.

    We have several players who are bigger than the team in Arod, Jeter, Posada, etc…guys who a manager can’t necessarily do what they want with. Guys who a manager has to walk on egg shells around.

    Arod especially. From everything that has come out, not just from the book, it appears he’s a moron of Ruthian proportions. Insisting on calling pitches? That one made me sick when I heard Showalter say he put a stop to that.

    The only way this is going to work here is if this group comes together and learns how to win and starts to show dominance.

    They have the talent, they appear to be building the unity, but they need to put it all together.

    I’m scared of what Arod might bring. Not saying at all that the team doesn’t need him and his offensive and defensive skills. We do need him.

    What we don’t need is the circus and it’s coming back to town and the media here are going to make it stay in town in order to sell papers and get blog hits.

    Apparently Arod loves the circus. Lives for it. There’s no such thing as bad press to this guy as long as his name is the one being talked about.

    I hope he comes back and helps to shut it out and proves to these guys he’s only about winning and being part of the group with them.

    I think the positive of this season is that the group appears to be tighter knit.

    I hope Arod and his circus don’t disrupt it.

    As for the Red Sox and their appearance of dominance, these things go in cycles.

    The one thing they do deserve credit for is fostering a winning attitude that appears to help their players and not hinder them at the moment.

    That can change at any time though.

  141. RayVT May 5th, 2009 at 4:27 pm

    SJ

    I don’t believe Alex will do anything that Alex doesn’t feel is right for him and his success. He is a tremendous athlete. His pressence in the lineup will present problems for other teams and gain value for the Yankees. I dare say a 60% ARod is more dangerous than a 100% Pena. So lets not waste time doing whatifs about being rushed. He could trip over the plate in ESP and break his wrist. Whatifs are never good. As Stonewall Jackson said to one of his generals, “Sir never take counsel of your fears.”

    The Yankees are fine. When it means the world to other teams to beat them, then they are still a great team. I look at production and see if I need to be worried. The core of the Yankees lineup is below their norm. I expect a hot streak really soon.

    That said, I do believe a long man in the Spring is essential to every team’s bullpen’s long-term health. Now they have one. 13 pitchers is wrong. They need another bat. I really think 11 pithcers and a 3rd catcher with a bat is the right plan. That way they can PH twice for a cather if needed.

  142. AD May 5th, 2009 at 4:28 pm

    Rather have these injury problems now instead of August. Still sucks, but they have to go out and play, and CC and AJ need to start dominating Soon.

    If we get 4 out of the 6 guys on the DL now back and healthy by June 1, all will be well.

  143. stuart May 5th, 2009 at 4:28 pm

    yeah the Indians are going to trade a 25 yr old stud, because?????????????????????????

  144. Danny May 5th, 2009 at 4:28 pm

    Lupica is on with Kay, FYI

  145. Someone Else May 5th, 2009 at 4:28 pm

    “How about IPK to the Rangers for Max Ramirez?”

    Click.

    That’s the sound of Jon Daniels hanging up before laughing hysterically.

  146. Dee May 5th, 2009 at 4:28 pm

    it’s a little scary that cervelli is batting .190 in the minors…

  147. Teixeiramvp (JobaCyYoung) May 5th, 2009 at 4:28 pm

    I would just like to say that despite serious consideration due to yesterday’s performance from Tex and last week’s pperformance by Joba my name is staying the same.

  148. MichiganYankee May 5th, 2009 at 4:28 pm

    On homering from both sides, see http://www.baseball-almanac.co.....ts20.shtml. It’s been done 133 times in the AL, and 38 of those have been by Yankees:

    Mantle – 10
    Williams – 8
    Posada – 6
    White – 5
    Tresh – 3
    Smalley – 1
    Sierra – 1
    Clark (Tony) – 1
    Cabrera – 1
    Swisher – 1
    Teixeira – 1

    Mantle’s 10 is the AL record. The Major League record is 11 by Eddie Murray (9 in AL, 2 in NL). Swisher already has 8, including 3 in 2007 (tying Tony Clark, who set the AL record with the 1998 Tigers — Ken Caminiti hit 4 with 1996 Padres and 10 in his career).

    On April 6 of this year, Clark and Felipe Lopez each homered both ways for the Diamondbacks. It was Clark’s 9th switch-homer game in his career (7 in AL, 2 in NL). The only other teamates to pull the trick in the same game were Bernie and Jorgie, April 23, 2000 in Toronto.

  149. vin May 5th, 2009 at 4:29 pm

    Best of luck, Trisha… oh by the way, do you have any catching experience? I think a job has opened up in the Bronx…

  150. Cal May 5th, 2009 at 4:29 pm

    “Problem is, Arod returning replaces Posada in the lineup. It doesn’t lengthen it.
    They REALLY need the pitching to get going now. Their grace period for getting going is officially over.”

    At the end of the day it is Sabathia, Burnett, Pettitte that will have to keep this team afloat during this stretch of injuries. Problem is the bullpen is even worse, we don’t even know when Bruney will be back. This team is all over the place roster wise.

  151. Teixeiramvp (JobaCyYoung) May 5th, 2009 at 4:29 pm

    I still believe in my Yankees.

  152. trisha - click to see my bigger and better Opening Day photos May 5th, 2009 at 4:30 pm

    All I can say is thank you all from the bottom of my heart. I am sitting here crying, but mainly because I am so touched by all of the caring things you have said. bod – that was great. Thank you and thanks for what you said about my dad. I really miss him so much, and especially at times like this.

    SJ, you are so right about the balance.

    Well, looks like I’m going to have time to read a lot of lohud blog posts! :)

    will, I can afford to be out of work. Otherwise I would agree with you wholeheartedly. My dad always told us never to leave one job until you had another in hand. But I am financially secure enough to do it, thanks to God.

    I will read other posts when I get home. Right now I am too teary to read very much!

    Again, thank you. The milk of human kindness is such a healing balm.

  153. chris nj May 5th, 2009 at 4:30 pm

    i think a team desprite for pitching like texas will take kennedy for one of their C but we’d need to sweeten the pot with a top arm in system.

  154. chris nj May 5th, 2009 at 4:30 pm

    i think a team desprite for pitching like texas will take kennedy for one of their C but we’d need to sweeten the pot with a top arm in system.

  155. Aunt Becca-Optimist Prime May 5th, 2009 at 4:30 pm

    “UPDATE, 4:06 p.m.: The Yankees are saying officially that Posada will be out 2-3 weeks. But within the clubhouse, the fear us that it could be more like 3-5 weeks.”

    Not as bad as 6-8 weeks.

    Meanwhile, do you all think I could find 100 people to donate me $10 so I can get the new computer I want/need?

  156. S.A.--It's a marathon, not a sprint May 5th, 2009 at 4:31 pm

    They REALLY need the pitching to get going now. Their grace period for getting going is officially over.

    =================================

    Agreed 100%
    The starters have to perform better and the bullpen..well..might have to start praying harder for the bullpen to do well. :?

  157. Teixeiramvp (JobaCyYoung) May 5th, 2009 at 4:31 pm

    Cal-If Tex picks it up and ARod does his thing (which can be even better than Posada) our lineup can still get better.
    I’m still a believer in Mark Melancon.

  158. JoeyA May 5th, 2009 at 4:31 pm

    “Until they start developing young pitching – something they haven’t done in more than a decade – they aren’t going to be better than anyone in the AL East.”

    ———
    And until we start developing young, athletic position players, we will be where we are every year, high expectations followed by injuries and playing catch up.

    We have a catching prospect who can mash, but can’t catch. And, all of our stock in one centerfielder. No serious shortstop option in the wings.

  159. KWAN May 5th, 2009 at 4:31 pm

    Would anyone be opposed to re-acquiring Pudge?

    He obviously had a bad year last year, but maybe we can catch lightening in a bottle. He did have a great WBC and still has some pop in his bat and has a great arm.

  160. Someone Else May 5th, 2009 at 4:31 pm

    “i think a team desprite for pitching like texas will take kennedy for one of their C but we’d need to sweeten the pot with a top arm in system.”

    Or 4.

  161. Billy May 5th, 2009 at 4:31 pm

    Tah Rangers didn’t budge for any of their ctachers with the Red Sox and are not about to now unless the Yankees sold the farm.

  162. Bill May 5th, 2009 at 4:31 pm

    No Youk? Must have Jobaitis!

  163. yankee 822 May 5th, 2009 at 4:32 pm

    Cashman’s idea of getting younger and more athletic involves players who can’t hit, like Gardner.

  164. carl May 5th, 2009 at 4:32 pm

    Maybe this will be better for Posada in the long run. He has time to rest his shoulder. 2-3 weeks isn’t that bad.

  165. jonathan May 5th, 2009 at 4:33 pm

    the indians would trade him b/c his contract is up after next year and they s-ck this year.

  166. Teixeiramvp (JobaCyYoung) May 5th, 2009 at 4:33 pm

    trisha, I wish I could help out more, but the best I could do is give
    moral support. I have no experience with situations like this.
    Good luck though.

  167. Giuseppe Franco May 5th, 2009 at 4:33 pm

    And until we start developing young, athletic position players, we will be where we are every year, high expectations followed by injuries and playing catch up.

    We have a catching prospect who can mash, but can’t catch. And, all of our stock in one centerfielder. No serious shortstop option in the wings.

    —————-

    I’ve read through many of your posts today and nobody with common sense is going to stop you from whining or hanging yourself.

    Be patient and watch what happens. The season isn’t over because the Yanks lost to the Red Sox last night.

  168. Someone Else May 5th, 2009 at 4:33 pm

    “And until we start developing young, athletic position players, we will be where we are every year, high expectations followed by injuries and playing catch up.

    We have a catching prospect who can mash, but can’t catch. And, all of our stock in one centerfielder. No serious shortstop option in the wings.”

    Because those elite shortstop prospects tend to go in the early part of the draft. Y’know, before the Yankees pick.

    Otherwise, you have to sign 16 year old kids out of the Caribbean and hope they work out (like Hanley Ramirez, and like the Yankees are hoping with Montero).

  169. Bob(The Original) May 5th, 2009 at 4:34 pm

    Billy
    May 5th, 2009 at 4:31 pm
    Tah Rangers didn’t budge for any of their ctachers with the Red Sox and are not about to now unless the Yankees sold the farm.

    —————-

    I’m not so sure about that.

    Now that they see how wide open and winnable the West is this year they might be a little more eager to get a SP.

  170. Betsy May 5th, 2009 at 4:34 pm

    I don’t want to assume the worst – of course there’s fear in the clubhouse that he could be gone that long because it’s better to think that way and be prepared if that is the case, but maybe it’s just unfounded.

    Not interested in Lupica – haven’t read him in years, don’t intend to listen to him.

  171. Teixeiramvp (JobaCyYoung) May 5th, 2009 at 4:34 pm

    On the bright side, and I know Pete has a problem with me saying this but it’s true, Youk being out is huge. He was on fire before yesterday.

  172. Someone Else May 5th, 2009 at 4:34 pm

    “the indians would trade him b/c his contract is up after next year and they s-ck this year.”

    Uh… huh.

    Keep dreaming.

  173. Billy May 5th, 2009 at 4:34 pm

    “2-3 weeks isn’t that bad.”

    2-3 weeks not happening especially for an aging catcher. Talk about rushing Arod, the early time frame for Jorge is just crazy.

  174. Someone Else May 5th, 2009 at 4:35 pm

    “Now that they see how wide open and winnable the West is this year they might be a little more eager to get a SP.”

    Who hasn’t shown the ability to get major league hitters out yet.

  175. Trevor May 5th, 2009 at 4:35 pm

    “I still believe in my Yankees”

    And that’s the right attitude. This blog has been depressing today with all the negativity. Even the voices of reasons have been negative.

  176. Teixeiramvp (JobaCyYoung) May 5th, 2009 at 4:36 pm

    Billy-I would agree if I knew the extent of the injury. If the injury really is an injury that’ll take 2-3 weeks, fine. If not, then yeah it’s a stretch.

  177. Bob(The Original) May 5th, 2009 at 4:36 pm

    Someone Else
    May 5th, 2009 at 4:35 pm
    “Now that they see how wide open and winnable the West is this year they might be a little more eager to get a SP.”

    Who hasn’t shown the ability to get major league hitters out yet.

    —————————–

    Have you seen some of the guys the Rangers are throwing out there?

  178. AD May 5th, 2009 at 4:37 pm

    Would anyone be opposed to re-acquiring Pudge?

    He obviously had a bad year last year, but maybe we can catch lightening in a bottle. He did have a great WBC and still has some pop in his bat and has a great arm.

    Yes – totally opposed

    Cant Handle a pitching staff, and I don’t want him mucking up CC AJ, Joba, and Phugh.

    Also we wont be able to get him for Kyle Farnesworthless this year…..

  179. Josh May 5th, 2009 at 4:37 pm

    tommy (Wow Josh you listen to the Michael Kay show? I hear that’s worse than waterboarding. Kay should thank God for Sterling, Suzyn Waldman,Hawk Harrelson and the Marlins announcers or he’d be the worst announcer around. C were you dropped on your head as a child? Just wondering.)

    yes, I listen. I like it. I don’t have a problem with Kay. I don’t mind his announcing, and I was dropped on my head as a child (no joke).

  180. Tex's friend (Best starting 5 in the majors) May 5th, 2009 at 4:38 pm

    In the end the yankees will be fine, but it is still hard to watch the same crap every april and may. falling far behind, and playing catch up, with high priced talent that takes a month to start playing.

    Ill give a-rod one thing. he shows up to play on opening day, not in may.

  181. jonathan May 5th, 2009 at 4:38 pm

    and one other thing about victor martinez
    he will turn 31 this december..he isnt 25 as previously stated in an earlier post

  182. Bad Scooter May 5th, 2009 at 4:38 pm

    Raining here in DC now and headed towards The Bronx. Could get ugly again tonight.

  183. CaptainsCorner May 5th, 2009 at 4:38 pm

    Even though losing Posada’s bat stinks. The Yanks are really gaining 2 more bats in Arod and Tex. Tex was basically an automatic out along with 3B, CF and when Molina played. Once Tex starts going and Arod gets a couple of at bats they are going to absolutely kill the ball together. It will be a great 3-4 punch. That is the only optimistic way to try and look at it.

  184. tampayank May 5th, 2009 at 4:39 pm

    the Ny Post says Jorge has a partial tear

  185. Floyd May 5th, 2009 at 4:39 pm

    What more can Cashman do?

    He spent $423 million last year and got us an ace starter, an electric #2 starter, and a GG/Allstar 1st baseman. He also got a great super-sub in Swisher.

    We were supposed to have the best rotation in baseball and a terrific young bullpen with tremendous depth. Bench was supposed to be Swisher, Melky, Ransom, Molina. Aside from Ransom, that is very good.

    Cashman did everything he could this winter. Can’t expect him to anticipate injuries to all of our key players combined with slow starts from the newcomers.

  186. Bob(The Original) May 5th, 2009 at 4:39 pm

    Bad Scooter
    May 5th, 2009 at 4:38 pm
    Raining here in DC now and headed towards The Bronx. Could get ugly again tonight.

    ——————–

    Yeah, I’m just getting ready to go and I hear it starting.(In DC)

  187. Teixeiramvp (JobaCyYoung) May 5th, 2009 at 4:40 pm

    Trevor-Thanks. As I said, there are 2 ways to look at this, optimistically and pessimistically, if they win tonight. You could either say that the Sox have won four of five or you could look and say we lost one series and split another, not bad, and this is w/o A-Rod.
    Favorite moment on the blog: This moron called 2008 hasn’t ended kept insulting me and asking me if I had my “pom poms” out when I said that the game wasn’t over vs. the Angels a few days ago. So I called a comeback. Sure enough, the Yankees came through. Games like that make me think if everything starts clicking, the Yankees really can be a force.

  188. Paranoid Android May 5th, 2009 at 4:40 pm

    This is the perfect opportunity to bring back Matt Nokes.

    I’d also be o.k. w/giving Mike Stanley another shot, but he’s a Sox traitor so that ship has sailed.

  189. Someone Else May 5th, 2009 at 4:41 pm

    “Have you seen some of the guys the Rangers are throwing out there?”

    The Rangers asked for Buchholz for Salty, and probably want more for Teagarden or Ramirez.

    Kennedy < Buchholz.

  190. tommy May 5th, 2009 at 4:41 pm

    The dropped on the head line was meant for C not yourself. He was making a fool of himself.

  191. JB May 5th, 2009 at 4:41 pm

    The Yankees do not need to make a move with Posada. They need a healthy Arod back and bring a bat up for the bench. It may mean Shelley Duncan to play some DH, spell guys in the OF. The concern should not be on the catcher’s ability to hit.

    The next injury is the concern. Damon is banged up, Matsui’s knees, etc. Hopefully Nady can swing a bat soon to spell Matsui at DH.

  192. JoeyA May 5th, 2009 at 4:41 pm

    Guiseppe-
    my posts from today stem from the frustration of Posada’s DL stint. I’m not giving up on this season by any means, but the issues with this season aren’t because of decisions made recently.

    The issues with this season are the lack of roster flexibility and health of our aging stars, both of which are long term issues that are never addressed by the organization because of their short term focus.

    Posada was never on the DL before last season. He hits .300+ in a carer year, and we hand him a contract like he’s 28.

    Our roster is constructed using a “best case scenario” view, which almost never happens in baseball.

    People get injured, get banged up, need rest. This current roster can’t deal with any of that, cause we put so much stock in our starters we were indifferent to the idea of one of them going down.

    RF was the only area with true depth, which is now gone with Nady to the DL, and we almost were completely screwed if Swish went down for a period of time.

    SJ said it perfectly a few days ago. We pay Tex, CC, and AJ RIDICULOUS amounts of money, while Alex Cora, who could have solved A TON of our problems this season, was available for $2-3 mill. AND expressed a desire to play in NY.

  193. William Buckner May 5th, 2009 at 4:42 pm

    Quick question? Where are all those people calling for more Molina over Posada behind the plate?

    You wanted it, you got it.

  194. Pat M May 5th, 2009 at 4:42 pm

    Yanks will be fine, too much talent in the long run…..Outstanding starting pitching, but the pen is going to need a few novina’s from the New Cardinal…..What is in question is my wager that the Yanks win 100 games…..

  195. Tex's friend (Best starting 5 in the majors) May 5th, 2009 at 4:42 pm

    How bout that catcher who always caught wakefield? where is he now?

  196. Bob(The Original) May 5th, 2009 at 4:42 pm

    Cashman did everything he could this winter. Can’t expect him to anticipate injuries to all of our key players combined with slow starts from the newcomers.

    ————————–

    Wrong. Anyone with a brain could have anticipated something happening to Jorge. And most of us advocated all winter for him to do something besides Molina.

  197. Gates May 5th, 2009 at 4:42 pm

    Bottom line -

    Cashman needs to get a catcher and bullpen help immediately or he should be fired.

  198. Doreen May 5th, 2009 at 4:42 pm

    I still believe in my Yankees, too.

    But, sometimes you have to bat around all the circumstances surrounding them. They are not doing nearly as well as most of us had thought was a lock. And too many instances new book, same story – almost as if the winter break never happened.

    As depressing as it sometimes does get here, it does help to hash out the bad feelings. But everytime I turn on the game, I am still optimistic that they will win. One day at a time, I’m very optimistic. Looking back and looking ahead, I’ve got questions and concerns, but on a day to day basis, they going to win every day! :)

  199. Billy May 5th, 2009 at 4:42 pm

    I think you guys are totally underestimating that shredness of Jon Daniels. Case in point, when he dealt Teix for Salty, Andrus, Harrison and Neftali Feliz. The first three are on the 25-man but Feliz is a flame thrower and should be the best of the bunch. Granted none of the catchers are in Teix’ class but it shows what Daniels is capable of.

  200. Aunt Becca-Optimist Prime May 5th, 2009 at 4:42 pm

    Rain’s not supposed to start till 10. They’ll definitley start this and probably get the requisite 5 innings in a s well.

  201. tommy May 5th, 2009 at 4:43 pm

    they missed the playoffs last year the are an aging unathletic team that is what some people don’t get.

  202. Josh May 5th, 2009 at 4:43 pm

    tommy (The dropped on the head line was meant for C not yourself. He was making a fool of himself.) Ah. I didn’t see the C. In any case, I was telling the truth, lol.

  203. Someone Else May 5th, 2009 at 4:43 pm

    Ah, Alex Cora, the missing piece needed for a championship.

    Come back in September when he’s hitting .250/.300/.350.

  204. Tex's friend (Best starting 5 in the majors) May 5th, 2009 at 4:43 pm

    Alex Cora

    How does alex cora solve our problems? how much better would he be than ramiro pena? Can alex cora catch or pitch?

    No? Then not a solution.

  205. Someone Else May 5th, 2009 at 4:45 pm

    “I think you guys are totally underestimating that shredness of Jon Daniels. Case in point, when he dealt Teix for Salty, Andrus, Harrison and Neftali Feliz. The first three are on the 25-man but Feliz is a flame thrower and should be the best of the bunch. Granted none of the catchers are in Teix’ class but it shows what Daniels is capable of.”

    Exactly – that was a GREAT trade by Daniels. He ain’t an idiot.

    And Teagarden/Ramirez are the future in Texas. He’ll deal Salty as soon as he can, for top value.

  206. Rishi May 5th, 2009 at 4:45 pm

    Doug Mirabelli? Didn’t he retire?

  207. Starks May 5th, 2009 at 4:45 pm

    With Burnett’s history, it is only a matter of time before he goes on the DL

    I don’t know why people expect Cashman to have a backup plan for every injury. It is not realistic

  208. 86w183 May 5th, 2009 at 4:45 pm

    All the best Trisha… life’s too short to compromise on some things. I walked away once too… it’ll work out.

    SJ is absolutely on target with the catching situation. There were plenty of guys who could have been signed reasonably including Pudge and David Ross. Now they’ll either overpay or have an almost guaranteed automatic out.

    Really surprising they aren’t going to have him play in a few real games before Alex comes back. It would be great for thier budgets if he played one in Charleston, Trenton and Scranton as he worked his way north.

  209. Teixeiramvp (JobaCyYoung) May 5th, 2009 at 4:45 pm

    Doreen-I disagree. The Yankees have not started off slow like they normally do (not exactly fast, but over 500) and every now and then you see this team’s potential play itself out, like that comeback vs. the Angels.
    I think this season will be a sort of metaphor from ST. Slightly above 500, hanging in there type start, then everything clicks and we’re off.

  210. dennis-costanza(sox fan) May 5th, 2009 at 4:46 pm

    IMO there is no upside for the Yankees to state anything but 2-3 weeks re:Posada. If they are concerned about his health and want to make a deal any other public statement than 2-3 weeks further hurts their leverage.

    -dennis

  211. Tex's friend (Best starting 5 in the majors) May 5th, 2009 at 4:46 pm

    here we go some idiot with the aging argument again. Boston is older than the Yankees. Injuries aren’t because of age. young people get hurt too. our oldest starter is 32. besides rivera, the pen is young. our cf and rf are i their 20s, our 1b, and 2b are in their 20s. Jeter is healthy and will hit .300 every year. A-Rod is hurt and nothing to do with age. Damon is gutting it out hitting fairly well. So Posada.

    Tired of this stupid argument. we get younger every year. we arent the freakin sf giants.

  212. Teixeiramvp (JobaCyYoung) May 5th, 2009 at 4:47 pm

    Starks-Don’t jinx it!

  213. tommy May 5th, 2009 at 4:47 pm

    Alex Cora is an okish 24th or 25th man that’s about it. That said I believe this team is devoid of real leadership.

  214. Doreen May 5th, 2009 at 4:47 pm

    Pat M -

    The new cardinal is, I believe a Cardinal fan! :lol:

  215. Someone Else May 5th, 2009 at 4:47 pm

    David Ross… the .224 career hitter, yes?

  216. Boston Dave May 5th, 2009 at 4:48 pm

    “just did something very scary. I submitted my letter of resignation at work. I am leaving with regret but a new situation at work was such that I would have been unhappier staying than going. It was totally my choice. And no I have no job I am going to.”

    ——–

    trisha,

    I quit a very good job back in August and have taken the last, gulp, 10 months off. Best thing I ever did. People all thought I was nuts but while they’re in their cubicles I’ve been traveling the country and having a blast. I’m sure you’ll be very happy with your decision in the end. If your instincts told you to quit, there’s a reason for it.

  217. Bad Scooter May 5th, 2009 at 4:49 pm

    Re: Brett Gardner. I know everyone has already concluded he’s terrible after 15 games. People thought his ceiling would be a Brett Butler type player. Hit between .275 and .300, get on base at a .375 clip, get some doubles and triples and steal a bunch of bases. Bunt for base hits and get a ton of infield hits. Also, play a solid CF.

    If Brett Butler is what you want Gardner to become, then don’t jump the gun on him. Go look at Butler’s stats each year and how he struggled early on as well. These types of players OPS’ are built on their high on base % and the amount of doubles and triples they can get.

  218. Patrick May 5th, 2009 at 4:50 pm

    “The Yankees are saying officially that Posada will be out 2-3 weeks. But within the clubhouse, the fear us that it could be more like 3-5 weeks”

    Sounds about right to me.

    I’m pretty dissapointed and angry that Posada is out. Is it Girardi’s fault that Posada played in cold, wet weather? Is it Cashman’s fault that the team doesn’t have a good young backup? Is it just bad luck?

    Whoever’s fault it is, this injury is going to really hurt. Last year losing Posada was the #1 reason why the Yankees missed the playoffs. Losing him this year could cause the same result.

    The Yankees starters have to step up immediately. Sabathia and Burnett especially have to start pitching like we know they can. If our starting 5 can pitch well, this lineup (with A-rod of course) is good enough to win.

  219. CaptainsCorner May 5th, 2009 at 4:50 pm

    The Yanks will need a pinch hitter on the bench for the catchers for the late innings. They should give Miranda, John Rodriguez or Duncan a chance. Another bat for pinch hitting is going to be very important they have to get rid of Ramirez. They can’t have Molina or Cervelli batting from the 7-9 innings.

  220. Teixeiramvp (JobaCyYoung) May 5th, 2009 at 4:50 pm

    Bad Scooter-I haven’t given up on Gardy. Melky will drop down to Earth eventually and then Gardner will have his shot, and possibly his last one, with AJax waiting in the wings.

  221. stuart May 5th, 2009 at 4:51 pm

    the nonsense of the day. the yanks are unatheletic. you didn’t know that the yanks are in the top half of the league in steals.. yea the yanks should have signed 3 catchers in the offseason for 2 spots…yeah the 2nd guessing for uninformed never ends.

    the yanks have numerous younger players, more then they have had in years…who is old on the team? damon, matsui, jeter, and jorge…

    Damon and Matsui are gone end of the year. the rotation is 28, 31, 23, 22, 36 with wang at 28 on the IR.. How old is that staff????

    the hysteria is never ending and misinformed……..

  222. hokiehill May 5th, 2009 at 4:52 pm

    why is everyone slobbering over the orioles front office? yeah they suddenly have some young potential and the stadium is nice, but wasn’t it in Baltimore where a large number of fans staged a walk out last season? They haven’t exactly been thrilled with the management of the team the past few years, but guess what, no group of fan(atic)s ever is. Everyday I’m more thankful that the Yankees front office bases 0% of their decisions on the crap that spews from this blog sometimes.

  223. Starks May 5th, 2009 at 4:52 pm

    Matt LaPorte is hitting .143

    Can’t believe that’s all Shapiro got for CC. He should have gotten Prince Fielder or something

  224. hokiehill May 5th, 2009 at 4:53 pm

    and by “from this blog” i mean from the comments on this blog

  225. tommy May 5th, 2009 at 4:53 pm

    Braves for whatever reason signed Ross to a two year deal. Brett Butler was never a minor league lifer like Gardner. The comparision to Butler is an insult to Butler. Gardner is a medicore 5th Ofer(at best) who will put up a .600 ops. In other words worthless.

  226. Joekuh - Be a man and put your name on it. - Doug Mientkiewicz May 5th, 2009 at 4:53 pm

    Um, do any of the “we have no young SS prospect” whiners know that we have 23 yr old Ramiro Pena on our roster right now? He of the MLB-caliber glove and gradually improving bat?

  227. Teixeiramvp (JobaCyYoung) May 5th, 2009 at 4:53 pm

    I always thought we gave the illusion of being old because a lot of our veterans play positions like catcher, Shortstop, and closer, and because Pettite has been here forever.
    Not to mention they’re all doing pretty well. Not the vets’ fault we haven’t been able to climb far over 500.

  228. JoeyA May 5th, 2009 at 4:54 pm

    “here we go some idiot with the aging argument again. Boston is older than the Yankees. Injuries aren’t because of age. young people get hurt too. our oldest starter is 32. besides rivera, the pen is young. our cf and rf are i their 20s, our 1b, and 2b are in their 20s. Jeter is healthy and will hit .300 every year. A-Rod is hurt and nothing to do with age. Damon is gutting it out hitting fairly well. So Posada.
    Tired of this stupid argument. we get younger every year. we arent the freakin sf giants.”
    ————————-

    It’s more than a matter of average age of teams. sure, the Sox have an older team than us. But, do the Sox grant their older players high priced contracts, handicapping their ability to make moves when moves are necessary. No.

    We didn’t care about getting another catcher cause Posada had a great year and we gave him an undeserving contract. Matsui makes $15 mill, so we can’t get rid of him. Jeter, Damon, same deal.

    I’m not calling for their heads, nor am I throwing away the season. But you have to give the Sox credit where credit is due. They may be an older team, on average, but their success doesn’t hinder on the success of those older players, nor do those older players’ contracts handicap the team from making moves.

    Our older players do both. And the organizations inability to get out of this trend is what is frustrating. Posada to the DL for the 3rd time in a year and a half, after never being on it in his career, is just an example of this issue.

  229. Aunt Becca-Optimist Prime May 5th, 2009 at 4:54 pm

    Starks: LMAO.

  230. Teixeiramvp (JobaCyYoung) May 5th, 2009 at 4:55 pm

    soxnation-I thought you had your own blog?
    Look at the numbers and you will see that Ortix has been slowly getting worse at a far faster rate than Jeter, who has two game winning hits.

  231. tommy May 5th, 2009 at 4:55 pm

    I hope you’re kidding he has what 7 at bats? Saw the kid in the minors he’ll be a good one. He and Daniel Murphy were two of the better young hitters I saw in the minors the past few years.

  232. Bruce May 5th, 2009 at 4:55 pm

    This is what happens when you are an old, slow, unathletic team full of guys making $10+ million dollars

    You get exposed by teams like Boston and Tampa who are young hungry and don’t care about money but love the game of baseball

    We have guys who like baseball, but love their paycheck more

  233. Boston Dave May 5th, 2009 at 4:56 pm

    Youkilis is out per Boston Globe.

    Joba needs to find a new whipping boy for tonight…

  234. randy l. May 5th, 2009 at 4:56 pm

    BASEBALL OPERATIONS
    Executive Vice President/General Manager Theo Epstein
    Senior Vice President/Assistant General Manager Ben Cherington
    Senior Vice President/Assistant General Manager Jed Hoyer
    Senior Vice President/International Scouting Craig Shipley
    Assistant to the General Manager Allard Baird
    Senior Advisor/Baseball Operations Bill James
    Director of Baseball Operations Brian O’Halloran
    Director of Baseball Information Services Tom Tippett
    Assistant Director of Baseball Operations Zack Scott
    Special Assistant to the General Manager David Howard
    Executive Assistant Erin Cox
    Traveling Secretary Jack McCormick
    Instructors Johnny Pesky, Jim Rice, Luis Tiant
    Medical Director Dr. Thomas Gill
    Team Internist Dr. Larry Ronan
    Medical Operations Coordinator Jim Rowe
    Head Trainer Paul Lessard
    Rehab Coordinator/Assistant Trainer Mike Reinold
    Staff Assistant Ino Guerrero
    Assistant Trainer Masai Takahashi
    Strength and Conditioning Coach David Page
    Japanese Interpreter Masa Hoshino, Jeff Yamaguchi
    Japanese PT/Massage Therapist Takanori Maeda
    Physical Therapist Scott Waugh
    Massage Therapist Russell Nua
    Clubhouse and Equipment Manager Joe Cochran
    Assistant Equipment Manager Edward “Pookie” Jackson
    Visiting Clubhouse Manager Tom McLaughlin
    Video Coordinator Billy Broadbent
    – top –

    MINOR LEAGUE OPERATIONS
    Director of Player Development Mike Hazen
    Director of Minor League Operations Raquel Ferreira
    Assistant Director, Player Development Ethan Faggett
    Assistant, Player Development Jared Banner
    Player Development Consultants Dick Berardino, Tony Cloninger, Dwight Evans, Tommy Harper, Felix Maldonado, Frank Malzone, Carl Yastrzemski
    Coordinator, Latin American Operations Eddie Romero
    Director, Florida Business Operations Todd Stephenson
    Minor League Equipment Manager Mike Stelmach

    —————————————

    i think the red sox simply have more bodies on the ground than the yankees do.

    an interesting example of the yankees having a coaching drain is on the above list – tony cloninger. cloninger was a pitching coach in the yankee organization going back as far as the late 80′s with the yankees.

    cloninger was there in the days of sterling hitchcock and helped develop guys like pettitte ad mariano. he was there all the way through 2001.he was a yankee coach for 15 years.

    after cashman fired him as the bullpen coach, the red sox hired him as their pitching coach. after getting cancer he was replaced as red sox pitching coach , but has remained a part of their organization ever since.

    tony cloninger once had a locker at age 19 between Hank Aaron and Eddie Mathews.

    he once hit two grand slams in a game that he won with a complete game.

    cloninger now has four rings from the yankees and two with the red sox.
    don’t you think tony cloninger would be a valuable yankee pitching consultant like he is for the red sox right now ?

    funny how those rings keep following cloninger around.
    he must just be lucky though.

  235. MaineYankee May 5th, 2009 at 4:56 pm

    For the ones that think they should have brought Pudge back, I believe that some of the pitchers were having a problem pitching to him because of his pitch selection.

    I also think he had to almost beg Houston to sign him because no one else wanted him.

  236. RGR May 5th, 2009 at 4:56 pm

    I guarantee we havent seen the last of Gardner starting in CF this season. You all act as if all of a sudden Melky is a ML player after brutaly failing 3 times before.

    Anyways, if Posada is back in 3-4 weeks, im happy. But I dont see this team being very successful while hes gone

  237. Drew May 5th, 2009 at 4:56 pm

    The Stub Hub tix are reasonable if you want to sit in the bleachers or grandstand outfield…and that’s it.

  238. Boston Dave May 5th, 2009 at 4:57 pm

    “This is what happens when you are an old, slow, unathletic team full of guys making $10+ million dollars”

    ——

    that’s the best point I’ve heard in a long time. If they were all only making $5M, the Yankees would be undefeated.

  239. Teixeiramvp (JobaCyYoung) May 5th, 2009 at 4:57 pm

    Bruce-We beat Tampa.
    So Many, who more or less led the Sox to two championships, yeah he was there for LOVE OF THE GAME right?
    Last year when our team was worse we won the season series vs. Boston. This years’ season series is not over, we can still win it.

  240. Teixeiramvp (JobaCyYoung) May 5th, 2009 at 4:57 pm

    Many is Manny.

  241. stuart May 5th, 2009 at 4:58 pm

    again weekend GM’s. damon, matsui, and nady off the books at the end of the year. where are there unmanageable contracts then? Arod.. is arods contract ludicrous? absolutely oh BTW he is a pretty good player.. Mo’s contract runs thru 2010 and that is it….

    People make more out of things then they should. 13 and 12 is nothing should the yanks be better? Of course but again just Mo close game 1 agaisnt the sux and AJ not melt down and they are 15 and 10 and like 2 games out of first.

    the offense is showing more late inning toughness then in years, they need to get the rotation right and all will be good. BTW they have the players to turn the rotation around no doubt about it…..

  242. Pat M May 5th, 2009 at 4:58 pm

    Doreen, I guess we can’t catch a break…The Cardinal in NYC, is a St. Louis Cardinal fan……The Pope must be a Boston fan……Oh well….

  243. Thomas May 5th, 2009 at 4:58 pm

    Time to trade Veras for a young catcher

  244. Teixeiramvp (JobaCyYoung) May 5th, 2009 at 4:58 pm

    Drew-You can get pretty good seats for 100 dollars down the left or right field lines from stub hub.

  245. Boston Dave May 5th, 2009 at 4:58 pm

    I’ve never paid more on ebay than what stubhub typically charges. If you can afford to plan ahead, just get em on ebay or negotiate on craigslist.

  246. Patrick May 5th, 2009 at 4:59 pm

    “Joba needs to find a new whipping boy for tonight…”

    Even though I like the guy, my vote is for Jason Bay.

  247. Teixeiramvp (JobaCyYoung) May 5th, 2009 at 4:59 pm

    stuart-Absolutely.

  248. Giuseppe Franco May 5th, 2009 at 4:59 pm

    my posts from today stem from the frustration of Posada’s DL stint. I’m not giving up on this season by any means, but the issues with this season aren’t because of decisions made recently.

    ————-

    Frustration makes people say crazy things like using the Rays, Royals, and Orioles as the blueprint for what the Yanks should model their team.

    That’s insane.

    The Rays are a good team now but it took a decade of bottom feeding to acquire so many talented players. Price, Upton, and Longoria were all Top 3 picks in their respective drafts.

    Besides, if you think these guys never get hurt because they are young – think again.

    Upton has been out for a couple of weeks already this season and missed time last year too. Longoria was out with a broken wrist and Crawford missed a month as well last year.

    Injuries happen to everybody.

    That dynamic Royals team you speak of hasn’t been to the postseason since 1985. That was only 24 years ago.

    The Royals are hardly a blueprint for success.

    The Orioles haven’t been to the postseason since 1997 – which in fact was also the last time they had a winning record. They are also now in last place right now because they have zero pitching.

    Just sit back and watch the season progress. You might be pleasantly surprised.

    It’s unreal how so many people overreact on days like this.

  249. Trevor May 5th, 2009 at 5:00 pm

    I would like to see Damon and Matsui gone next year. They’re still productive but both contracts are up and they’re in their mid thirties. Move on if you’re the Yankees.
    Forget Matt Holliday. How about trading for an outfielder in the off-season? Stop solving all the problems via FA. Make some smart trades.
    I would like to see a catcher that can catch almost everyday brought in here for next year. Molina is not that guy. Make Posada a daily DH for 2010.

  250. pc69 May 5th, 2009 at 5:01 pm

    stuart, were you not loved enough as a kid? You are very angry at nonsense.

  251. Teixeiramvp (JobaCyYoung) May 5th, 2009 at 5:01 pm

    Patrick-Yeah, that guy is a Yankee killer.
    By the way, I love when in Boston, after the Yanks have a big inning and the Sox get out of it, the crowd cheers. Same thing happens in NY and we boo.
    I really don’t think it makes a difference, I’m just amused at the difference between the Boston and NY fans.

  252. CB May 5th, 2009 at 5:01 pm

    “The Yankees starters have to step up immediately. Sabathia and Burnett especially have to start pitching like we know they can. If our starting 5 can pitch well, this lineup (with A-rod of course) is good enough to win.”

    I understand that people are upset about losing Posada. I’ve posted often back to last year about how devastating his loss and replacemenet with Molina was on a day to day basis.

    That said – the whole reason why the yankees spent so much money on their rotation this year was to precisely compensate for these kinds of issues.

    The basic idea in the off season was an acknowledgement that this is an old team, one that is prone to injury and one that doesn’t necessarily have an answer should Posada get hurt again, or Matsui not come back or Cano not rebound.

    This is precisely why they signed Tex. He needs to start producing.

    But what the larger strategy seems to be was to try to compensate for the age of the position players by creating a dominant rotation.

    That was a fundamental premise to the season. Maximize run prevention in order to create enough margin to compensate for injuries or ineffectiveness in the position players.

    This premise has broken down right now because the staff simply has underperformed outside of Pettite.

    That is the foundation for the team’s problems right now.

    CC has not been CC. AJ has been only mediocre. Wang is hurt. Joba has been Ok.

    Right now they along with Hughes will all need to step it up. Now that’s a hard thing to ask from two kids who are 22 and 23.

    So while Joba and Hughes will need to be better the biggest charge needs to come from CC, AJ and Pettite.

    CC said in the off season he wanted to come to NY for the opportunity to win.

    AJ said he came here because he wanted to compete, because he wanted the chance to win.

    But those opportunities and chances don’t just arise through osmosis. The players (not the manager or the GM…) need to make those opportunities tangible.

    It is up to them. It’s up to the staff to get them through this.

    Even with Wang out, the talent is there. They built up so such a deep rotation in the off season they could stand the loss of any one of the 5. That’s happened now. But that’s been compounded by the injuries to Alex and Jorge and the bull pen’s ineffectiveness.

    Right now the staff has to show leadership.

    It’s that rotation that needs to get it done. That’s the bottom line.

    That was the premise of this entire season.

  253. Dr. J May 5th, 2009 at 5:01 pm

    Why can’t any of our pitchers throw strikes?

    That’s the problem… all of our starters throw 100 pitches in 5 innings and don’t attack the zone. And same with our relievers.

  254. Rishi May 5th, 2009 at 5:01 pm

    current box score:

    BAL: 2 2 2
    TPA: 1 1 1

    Very weird

  255. randy l. May 5th, 2009 at 5:02 pm

    i think the red sox simply have more baseball operations bodies on the ground than the yankees do.

    an interesting example of the yankees having a coaching drain works for the red sox now – tony cloninger. cloninger was a pitching coach in the yankee organization going back as far as the late 80′s with the yankees.

    cloninger was there in the days of sterling hitchcock and helped develop guys like pettitte ad mariano. he was there all the way through 2001.he was a yankee coach for 15 years.

    after cashman fired him as the bullpen coach, the red sox hired him as their pitching coach. after getting cancer he was replaced as red sox pitching coach , but has remained a part of their organization ever since.

    tony cloninger once had a locker at age 19 between Hank Aaron and Eddie Mathews.

    he once hit two grand slams in a game that he won with a complete game.

    cloninger now has four rings from the yankees and two with the red sox.
    don’t you think tony cloninger would be a valuable yankee pitching consultant like he is for the red sox right now ?

    he never asked to leave the yankees . he was fired.
    funny how those rings keep following cloninger around.

  256. Billy May 5th, 2009 at 5:02 pm

    “Time to trade Veras for a young catcher”

    Wow. lol. Where would this catcher play, maybe the GCL?

  257. Pat M May 5th, 2009 at 5:02 pm

    Stuart, I don’t always see eye to eye with you ( ever since you sent me to the stupid line ) however I do see it like you….Things will turn around, actually it’s happening right now regardless of the injuries…..Alex, Nady, will bloster the lineup and Bruney hopefully by mid-May….The pen is in the end the issue

  258. McG May 5th, 2009 at 5:02 pm

    Quick Question. I received an e-mail from the Yanks today offerign $50 the “batters eye seats” for Wed and Thursday’s games. Have any of you sat in those seats yet? If so, thoughts??

  259. Giuseppe Franco May 5th, 2009 at 5:02 pm

    Whoever’s fault it is, this injury is going to really hurt. Last year losing Posada was the #1 reason why the Yankees missed the playoffs. Losing him this year could cause the same result.

    ————–

    Why does it have to be someone’s fault?

    Maybe Posada was injured last night because he’s 37 years old and injuries are part of the game.

    He was strictly a DH last night. He didn’t even play the field.

    You’re the same guy who said they wouldn’t score a single run last night in the 4th inning so you’re not exactly a wealth of common baseball sense.

  260. Teixeiramvp (JobaCyYoung) May 5th, 2009 at 5:02 pm

    Trevor-I’d wait for the season to end before judging Holliday. IF he can come close to his rates while at Coor’s Field, he’s a good fit. If not, we’ll find someone.

  261. AD May 5th, 2009 at 5:03 pm

    “Time to trade Veras for a young catcher”

    Thomas-
    You would be lucky to get a bat boy to be named later for Jose Veras…. The only way Veras will be acquired from another team is from off waivers

  262. stuart May 5th, 2009 at 5:03 pm

    Pena may or may not be the next Yankee SS we will see over the next few years…

    AJAX, Pena, Melky, Cano, hughes, joba, coke, melancon, brackman, betances, montero, gardner, swisher, texiaera, wang, CC, robertson, and about 15 other prospects or present players are all under 30….The world is not coming to the end jsut because morons like fatcessa, espn, gammons, act like they know what the hell they are talking about…….

  263. Wave Your Hat May 5th, 2009 at 5:04 pm

    Miranda should be called up today and Aceves sent down. Aceves won’t be ready to pitch for a few days and we need another bat now.

    Then, Cashman has to bite the bullet on Nady and put him on the 60 day DL retroactive to his injury. That will allow him to call up a AAA outfielder. We will need that bat as well.

    We now have Molina/Cervelli, Pena/Berroa, and Gardner. We need offense, we have at game with Boston and two with Tampa before ARod gets here, and who knows if ARod is called up on Friday or if he will be effective.

    Sometime the hand you are dealt requires you to make choices you don’t want to make. For the Yanks front office, IMO this is one of those times.

  264. EricNS May 5th, 2009 at 5:04 pm

    Hey Pete can you delete Ted’s comment – that goes beyond good taste – it is disgusting and why many people could turn off of sports

  265. Rishi May 5th, 2009 at 5:06 pm

    of the 40 pitches through 3 innings thrown by Uehara (sp?) for Boston…6 were balls…he just struck out Tampa’s 2-3-4 hitters in a row

    I know some of you don’t care about other games…but that is one heck of a performance. 1 hit and 1 unearned run

  266. Teixeiramvp (JobaCyYoung) May 5th, 2009 at 5:07 pm

    Just delete Ted’s comment. And ban Ted.

  267. Rishi May 5th, 2009 at 5:07 pm

    sorry, that should be through 4 innings

  268. CB May 5th, 2009 at 5:07 pm

    “Then, Cashman has to bite the bullet on Nady and put him on the 60 day DL retroactive to his injury. ”

    I think this is one of the think they just never do. They never bite the bullet on injuries. Instead they constantly try to play a wait and see game on the off chance the player will come back faster than they think.

    That’s exactly what they did with Marte.

    Too often it’s wishful thinking.

    I agree – they need to make a definitive roster move and correct this imbalance between the pitchers and position players.

    But I don’t think they’re going to do it, for whatever reason.

  269. Carl May 5th, 2009 at 5:08 pm

    No Posada = No Playoffs

  270. Patrick May 5th, 2009 at 5:08 pm

    CB,

    I agree 100% with your last post.

  271. Teixeiramvp (JobaCyYoung) May 5th, 2009 at 5:08 pm

    Oddly, Boston’s bullpen doesn’t scare me. Yankees have proven that IF our pen can keep us in it (big if) we can get to Boston’s pen, they haven’t been invincible.
    I’m still a huge Melancon fan.

  272. Patrick May 5th, 2009 at 5:09 pm

    I meant your 5:01 post CB. Very well said.

  273. Teixeiramvp (JobaCyYoung) May 5th, 2009 at 5:09 pm

    Carl-Elaborate?

  274. Wave Your Hat May 5th, 2009 at 5:09 pm

    CB-

    I was part of the “Sign Tex” contingent, and I am glad they did for just the reasons we face now, among others.

    But the possibility that Jorge couldn’t answer the bell for an extended period was always my nightmare scenario this winter (yours too, if I remember correctly), and now it has come true.

    Even if the pitching staff pitches up to expectations from here on out, without Jorge there are no guarantees. The Yanks need to get more bench help now, and even so it’s going to be a “close run thing” (to quote the Duke of Wellington) with Boston and Tampa.

  275. SJ44 May 5th, 2009 at 5:10 pm

    Hey Ted,

    How ’bout this.

    Why don’t you give me your cell number and I will give it to Joba the next time I see him and we can arrange a meeting to see if you want to say that to his face.

    I figure a “tough” guy like yourself wouldn’t have a problem delivering that message in person.

    Its amazing how many of these “Ted’s” are out there trying to grow a pair on the internet.

  276. Teixeiramvp (JobaCyYoung) May 5th, 2009 at 5:10 pm

    soxnation-I already responded.

  277. Doreen May 5th, 2009 at 5:10 pm

    Teixeira mvp -

    Yeah, granted, this year was less of a slow start! It’s frustrating because you see how either a hit here or there or a better pitched game by a starter or a key relief appearance here and there, they could be doing very, very well.

    The optimist in me does see this and says, hey, with all the problems, they’re still doing “okay.” And that’s good.

    The realist says, why are there so many problems??!!??!!?? :)

  278. CaptainsCorner May 5th, 2009 at 5:10 pm

    “of the 40 pitches through 3 innings thrown by Uehara (sp?) for Boston…6 were balls…he just struck out Tampa’s 2-3-4 hitters in a row”

    Yeah while Igawa sunglasses still attempts to get people out in AAA..

  279. Trevor May 5th, 2009 at 5:11 pm

    I want no part of Matt Holliday. Another bloated contract? No Thanks!
    How about Cashman making a smart trade. Ala Nick Swisher

  280. AD May 5th, 2009 at 5:11 pm

    Soxnation

    a) Ortiz because he is off the ‘roids

    Cant believe what a pass the red sox got during the steroids era…

  281. JoeyA May 5th, 2009 at 5:11 pm

    Guiseppi-
    Point taken.

    All I guess I am trying to say is, given our ability to draft, evident in Joba, Ajax, Hughes, etc., it would do us some good to not try and put a winner on the field EVERY year.

    I’m not saying bottom feed for a decade. But some high draft picks could establish an entirely new, youthful core for this team.

    unfortunately, our “WS or nothing” mantra doesn’t allow us to build. It allows us to throw money at players and hope for the best, instead of develop.

    And, whether you agree or not, the org. lack of foresight regarding a 37 year old catcher coming off the DL is nobody’s fault but Cash and whomever else advises him. Same with the bench.

    And as far as our plethora of young pitching in the minors, well, either bring them up or use them for trades cause there are other positions we need for this team, including the bullpen, to compete and we have 4 SP’s who will be here for at least the next 3 years.

  282. DMan May 5th, 2009 at 5:12 pm

    Getting back A-Rod and losing Posada kind of puts us right back to where we started.

    If the pitching doesn’t step up, like right now, then we’re going to sink. We didn’t spend $248 million on pitching so that we would have to win shootouts like the past 5 years.

  283. Huby May 5th, 2009 at 5:12 pm

    Is it just me or do the Red Sox seem to have a much better team than the Yankees? Not only does it seem that the big league club is better, but they also seem to have a better farm system. I get the impression that whenever the Yanks and Sox play, the Sox have complete control of things. It’s as though the Yankees have to struggle just to keep up. The Sox are younger, faster, hungrier, and healthier. They have “it” whatever “it” is. (Let me make it clear that I am a diehard Yankees’ fan, but I like to face things as they are rather than bury my head in the sand.)

  284. Fan Interference May 5th, 2009 at 5:12 pm

    There might be reasonably priced tickets out there, but I think fans might hesiteate, because of 1) the Weather, we’ve had a handful of nice days since Spring began seven weeks ago. And 2) people could be gauging how the team is doing, before purchasing tickets. The weather will get better, but if the team is playing .500 ball come June/July, tickets should be even more plentiful. But who really wants to see a mediocre team play, even at a discount.

  285. SJ44 May 5th, 2009 at 5:13 pm

    All the positive spin aside, if they don’t correct the roster imbalance, find a catcher, and hope (pray is more like it) the pitching improves BIGTIME and fast, they will be playing uphill the rest of this season.

    Its something this team hasn’t done well in the past but, that’s the hand they are dealt.

  286. Russell NY May 5th, 2009 at 5:13 pm

    Can we please stop calling out the troll’s names. I have a hard enough time filtering their conversation without them changing it every time we call them out.

  287. Teixeiramvp (JobaCyYoung) May 5th, 2009 at 5:13 pm

    Doreen-I think you’ve got the optimist and the realist mixed up with the realist and the pessimist.
    I think your “realist” side is more of you pessimistic side; it sees the ways they could improve and points them out.
    I think your “optimist” side is more realistic. It sees all the ways the Yankees could be doing better, points out the problems, then realizes we’re not that bad anyway. And we’re only getting better.
    Not trying to give a psychology lesson (I know nothing about psychology!) just making a point.

  288. vtred May 5th, 2009 at 5:15 pm

    Jeter has 4 more HRs than Ortiz

  289. Teixeiramvp (JobaCyYoung) May 5th, 2009 at 5:15 pm

    Huby-Our minor league team is doing crazy good. Not sure what you mean about the minor leagues.
    Anyway, the Yankees always do better vs. the Sox in the second half. We’ll see what happens.

  290. Russell NY May 5th, 2009 at 5:15 pm

    Lets relax… the Sox are only 2 games ahead in the loss column and they haven’t had a significant injury yet. We’ve had like 8. Lets just concentrate on getting our guys healthy.

  291. Teixeiramvp (JobaCyYoung) May 5th, 2009 at 5:16 pm

    DMan-I think we’re one and maybe a half up because ARod’s better than Jorge and Tex is heating up. Finally.

  292. yankee 822 May 5th, 2009 at 5:17 pm

    Time for Cashman to earn his money… not just sit around and hope these guys turn it around.

    Time for him to go out and get a catcher and figure out what to do with this bullpen.

    If he just watches us sink or reacts too late, he won’t survive.

  293. Tom K May 5th, 2009 at 5:17 pm

    Huby -

    I do think the Sox have a better overall team at the moment, but not by much.

    I don’t know where all of this “hungry” stuff comes from, though. Did the Royals suddenly become hungry this year? Did the Tigers decide that going to the WS was enough, and lose their “hunger”? Did the Yankees have a temporary 5-game hunger streak last week, only to lose that hunger suddenly? Why?

  294. Boston Dave May 5th, 2009 at 5:18 pm

    “All the positive spin aside, if they don’t correct the roster imbalance, find a catcher, and hope (pray is more like it) the pitching improves BIGTIME and fast, they will be playing uphill the rest of this season.”

    ———

    the Yankees built this team on pitching. everything else pales in comparison.

    If they don’t, you really have to wonder what’s going on. It’s not like CC and AJ are young. They are well established and you’re only counting on them to pitch to their career averages at this point.

  295. Teixeiramvp (JobaCyYoung) May 5th, 2009 at 5:18 pm

    Hey Pete, can you ban soxnation to for supprting someone who has made viscious personal attacks on a player for no good reason except to incite our fanbase and to point out how much he irrationally hates a guy he knows nothing about?

    Just putting the idea out there.

    Thanks.

  296. Bill X May 5th, 2009 at 5:19 pm

    Hal cannot be happy about the empty seats, .500 record, underperforming, and 0-4 record against Boston.

    I know he admittedly knows nothing about baseball, but even he has to be able to see what is right in front of him or atleast have his advisers relay this info to him.

  297. Doreen May 5th, 2009 at 5:19 pm

    Teixeiramvp-

    It’s entirely possible! :lol:

    The bottom line for me is I still think the Yankees can win, I think there’s enough time. But I think there’s lots of things they can and should do better now and in the future.

    :)

  298. Billy May 5th, 2009 at 5:19 pm

    “Huby-Our minor league team is doing crazy good. Not sure what you mean about the minor leagues.”

    What minor league team or teams are you talking about? Ajax aside the Yankees don’t have much young offense at AA and above. Unfortunately we talk up the Yankee pitching depth but the Sox have just as much.

  299. MaineYankee May 5th, 2009 at 5:20 pm

    CB-SJ44

    Don’t you think that if the starting pitchers were doing better they would adress the roster inbalance?

  300. Teixeiramvp (JobaCyYoung) May 5th, 2009 at 5:20 pm

    Tom K-I think the Sox are just off to a little better start.
    I am 100% confident in the pitching and if that gets better, we improve by leaps and bounds.
    By the way, when Toronto plays Boston I’m seriously considering rooting for the Sox, God help me.

  301. Boston Dave May 5th, 2009 at 5:20 pm

    “I get the impression that whenever the Yanks and Sox play, the Sox have complete control of things. It’s as though the Yankees have to struggle just to keep up. The Sox are younger, faster, hungrier, and healthier.”

    ——–

    shocking then that the Yankees won the season series between the 2 teams last season and the teams are virtually 50/50 in recent history.

    Or are you throwing that out the window and making a definitive judgment based on 4 games, sans ARod?

  302. Teixeiramvp (JobaCyYoung) May 5th, 2009 at 5:20 pm

    Billy-Look at their record.

  303. Doreen May 5th, 2009 at 5:21 pm

    The minor league (AAA) team is winning games, but who on the minor league team is ready to fill in at the ML level? That’s the question.

  304. Teixeiramvp (JobaCyYoung) May 5th, 2009 at 5:21 pm

    soxnation-Because Ortiz is hitting AND fielding so well…

  305. Al May 5th, 2009 at 5:21 pm

    From Spring Training -

    If they don’t, Girardi probably won’t be allowed back for the third and final season of his contract.

    “I haven’t even thought about it, to be honest with you,” Hal Steinbrenner said. “You know, as far as I’m concerned, we’re going to make the playoffs. Our fans expect that every year, and we expect that every year and my dad expects that every year. So we’re going into this very, very positively, on a good note. We’re healthy, we’re firing on all cylinders. … We’ll cross that bridge when we come to it, if we come to it, but I’m not expecting we will.”

  306. Brandon "We are all going to meet Berroa under the Oneill banner" "I LOVE ME SOME ME !" May 5th, 2009 at 5:22 pm

    “Getting back A-Rod and losing Posada kind of puts us right back to where we started.”

    Alex DH/Pena 3B

  307. Teixeiramvp (JobaCyYoung) May 5th, 2009 at 5:22 pm

    Doreen-You’re right. We’ll have to wait a bit for our depth to fill in.

  308. Boston Dave May 5th, 2009 at 5:22 pm

    “Hey Pete, can you ban soxnation”

    ——-

    or perhaps you can stop engaging and enabling him…

  309. K May 5th, 2009 at 5:22 pm

    Trish, best of luck to you.

    I hope ARod is back this weekend – Yanks need his bat and I will get to see him in Toronto next week.

    As for Girardi, I like the fire he is showing lately. He should keep it up.

    I realized something last night – I really despise Pappelbon – he is a complete tool.

  310. Real V May 5th, 2009 at 5:23 pm

    The Yankees say 2 weeks. It really means 2 months.

    They are terrible with injuries. This medical staff needs to go.

  311. Rishi May 5th, 2009 at 5:23 pm

    Arod in the field:
    “In the field, he handled two chances, including a grounder by Nerio Rios on which he had to make a spin move before throwing to first.”

    http://mlb.mlb.com/news/articl.....Id=rss_nyy

  312. stuart May 5th, 2009 at 5:23 pm

    the hunger angle is people jsut trying to make sense out of a game of ups and downs that is impossible to predict.

    didn’t you know last night in the 9th the yanks were not hungry but friday night against the angels they were hungry.

    SJ again all they need is for AJ, CC, joba, Wang, Hughes, and Pettitte to pitch the way they should and they will be in great shape.

    The starters have the 29th best ERA that to me appears to be a problem……..This rotation should be much better this is not; darrel may, ponson, tim redding, matt desalvo, etc… this rotation should dominate.

    the pen is a longer term problem but they can fix it, especially if the starters do there job…they can also fix it from inside the organization..

  313. Boston Dave May 5th, 2009 at 5:23 pm

    “Alex DH/Pena 3B”

    ——-

    Brandon, that’s actually not a bad idea on occasion.

  314. Teixeiramvp (JobaCyYoung) May 5th, 2009 at 5:23 pm

    Boston Dave-You’re right, actually.
    They are just so annoying. Like gnats.

  315. Sox Rock May 5th, 2009 at 5:25 pm

    As a Sox fan that hates the Yanks and loves watching them fail, and also hates Jobah, there is NO CAUSE to rag on his Mom. In fact, the sad story if anything, makes me want to root for him ugh.

    Anyone ragging on someone’s mom who clearly has a boatload of issues to deal with, is actually crossing a line that makes me wonder seriously about their makeup.

    Knock it off, you are making a fool of yourself and of all of us.

  316. Billy May 5th, 2009 at 5:25 pm

    “Billy-Look at their record.”

    Sorry but when the Yankees go out and get a Rodriguez, Linden, Bernier, Cash (been hurt), Tomko, etc, SWB is going to win games. Developing talent on the farm is about more than wins and losses. SWB won the IL title last year, that’s really helped us this year?

  317. Teixeiramvp (JobaCyYoung) May 5th, 2009 at 5:25 pm

    Thanks a lot Sox Rock.

  318. Shore Guy May 5th, 2009 at 5:25 pm

    The AAA team is winning games because it is full of veterans

    like Doug Bernier, Shelly Duncan, John Rodriguez, Todd Linden, Kevin Cash, Angel Berroa (before he was called up), Justin Leone etc.

    Rotation has Igawa, Jason Johnson, Casey Fossum, etc.

    Outside of A-Jackson, Kennedy, and maybe a couple relievers, the AAA team has nothing. Citing their record makes you look uninformed.

  319. Boston Dave May 5th, 2009 at 5:26 pm

    “As for Girardi, I like the fire he is showing lately. He should keep it up.”

    ——-

    as long as MLB doesn’t allow head hunting. We know Beckett has no problem throwing at a guys head.

    I have no problem with plunking a guy in the thigh as retaliation but the Yanks can’t afford to get into too many wars where their best players are getting drilled.

    It’s great to see Girardi fired up, but IMO, they should just try to throw the Sox off with fake signs or something like that. Or just steal the Sox signs too.

  320. Giuseppe Franco May 5th, 2009 at 5:26 pm

    They are terrible with injuries. This medical staff needs to go.

    ———-

    They just hired a new team doctor before the season began.

    Try again.

  321. Fan Interference May 5th, 2009 at 5:27 pm

    Huby,

    I put the blame on the Yankees front office, Steinbrenner’s, Cashman, etal. After 2003, they needed to rebuild, and start drafting a new core. Instead, while Boston was drafting players like Pedroia, Youklis, and Lester, the Yankees were bringing in alleged steroid users (Sheffield), Spoiled me first players (Arod, Lofton, Sheffield) pitchers past their primes who had no business pitching in the AL East (Randy Johnson, Kevin Brown), Pitchers who looked to have upside, but couldn’t hack it in NY (Weaver, Vasquez, Farnsworth), Injury risks (Jared Wright), and total no-shows (Pavano). Add to this the moves the Yanks could have made, but didn’t.

    I have to say Cashman is the worst GM in baseball. He has virtually limitless resources, but doesn’t know how to build a roster. He keeps making the same mistakes over, and over, and over. He has put some of the focus on the drafting of players in the past few seasons, but not enough. The Red Sox have run circles around the Yankees in scouting and drafting players. They have position players coming up who produce, and impact games. The Yankees have Brett Gardner, and a kid nicknamed Ajax, who hasn’t played in the majors yet. They have gone and outspent every team the past two seasons, and the team is getting older, and slower. They remind me more and more of the 80′s teams every day.

  322. Teixeiramvp (JobaCyYoung) May 5th, 2009 at 5:27 pm

    Billy-Not the point. You just made it sound as if the Sox minor league team has been dominating like the majors. If you want to talk about contributions to the big leagues, RIGHT NOW the Sox have the edge, but that should change in a few years.

  323. Patrick May 5th, 2009 at 5:27 pm

    “Alex DH/Pena 3B”

    What about Matsui?

  324. Teixeiramvp (JobaCyYoung) May 5th, 2009 at 5:27 pm

    Shore Guy-See my post to Billy.

  325. Nick in SF May 5th, 2009 at 5:27 pm

    They just showed Joe Maddon dissing the new Yankee stadium on the Rays broadcast. Paraphrasing: “They can put ‘Yankee Stadium’ up on it, but it’s not. The real one is across the street… there’s only one Yankee Stadium.”

    Who does this guy think he is???

  326. Boston Dave May 5th, 2009 at 5:27 pm

    “Boston Dave-You’re right, actually.
    They are just so annoying. Like gnats.”

    ——-

    it’s especially frustrating because they are so clueless but then you realize that the only reason they are even here is to try to tick Yankee fans off. Can’t fall into their trap…

  327. Joe May 5th, 2009 at 5:27 pm

    Why would you want Matsui’s bat put of the lineup though? Then you’ still have automatic outs in the lineup, in the form of Cabrera-Pena-Molina.

  328. Teixeiramvp (JobaCyYoung) May 5th, 2009 at 5:28 pm

    Fan Interference-The Red Sox did get to pick earlier in the draft a lot longer.

  329. Aunt Becca-Optimist Prime May 5th, 2009 at 5:29 pm

    According to ESPN, Favre’s considering unretiring.

    Again.

  330. Boston Dave May 5th, 2009 at 5:29 pm

    “They just showed Joe Maddon dissing the new Yankee stadium on the Rays broadcast. Paraphrasing: “They can put ‘Yankee Stadium’ up on it, but it’s not. The real one is across the street… there’s only one Yankee Stadium.””

    —–

    I don’t have a real problem with that but who cares what he thinks anyway?

    He needs to worry about why his team, loaded with talent, is fizzling early on this season… not about Yankee Stadium.

  331. Teixeiramvp (JobaCyYoung) May 5th, 2009 at 5:29 pm

    Nick in SF-Unfortuantely, while I disagree, he has every right to say it. He probably thinks he’s the reigning AL Champion. Sadly, he’s right.
    They asked him about the stadium and he answered truthfully.

  332. Pat M May 5th, 2009 at 5:29 pm

    I do not know the numbers, but over tha past 3-4 years, the Sox always tale it to the Yanks and come July the tables are reversed and more…..Yamks do need a win tonight just so some of this doesn’t start creeping into the back of their heads….

  333. Source May 5th, 2009 at 5:30 pm

    Maddon is right… the new Yankee Stadium is an embarrassment.

    The old stadium had decades of history attached to it, magic in the air, no empty seats, great atmosphere every night.

    The new Yankee Stadium is like a hotel. No personality, overloaded with ads, empty seats, no buzz etc.

  334. Brandon "We are all going to meet Berroa under the Oneill banner" "I LOVE ME SOME ME !" May 5th, 2009 at 5:30 pm

    “What about Matsui?”

    PH

  335. Teixeiramvp (JobaCyYoung) May 5th, 2009 at 5:30 pm

    Aunt Becca-Optimist Prime: I heard that’s a load of garbage.
    Boston Dave: I’m going to try ignoring them, but don’t be surprised if I snap.

  336. Billy May 5th, 2009 at 5:30 pm

    “Billy-Not the point. You just made it sound as if the Sox minor league team has been dominating like the majors.”

    Know I didn’t but the Sox have more prospects about High-A than the Yankees. Maybe that will change once the guys start moving from Tampa. For every good draft we have had, the Sox have also drafted and signed high ceiling guys.

  337. Baseball Fab May 5th, 2009 at 5:31 pm

    Pete is a Ssox fan, Susan Waldman is a Sox Fan, Bloomberg is a Sox fan, so what? The JOB of reporting on baseball, does NOT require you to reveal your personal affiliation to who you root for, which many times is a result of where you were born, and who your family rooted for.

  338. Boston Dave May 5th, 2009 at 5:31 pm

    “Instead, while Boston was drafting players like Pedroia, Youklis, and Lester, the Yankees were bringing in alleged steroid users (Sheffield), Spoiled me first players (Arod, Lofton, Sheffield) pitchers past their primes”

    ———

    That has nothing to do with the Yankees draft. You could make a list of awful Sox signings too, but they did draft some quality players.

    The Yanks draft picks for a long time were horrible. They seem to have improved drastically in that department over the recent years.

    The Yankees seem to be much more concerned with the draft as well as international signings and should make up ground there very quickly.

  339. Clint May 5th, 2009 at 5:31 pm

    I have a feeling we’re going to go 4-15 or something against the Sox this year. We just don’t matchup well with them at all. We’re not going to win any close games against them unless it is in our last AB. This bullpen will not hold them down.

  340. Betsy May 5th, 2009 at 5:31 pm

    CB, you’re exactly right. The starters are fully capable of carrying this team. They have to – the team needs them. Even with all the injuries and not hitting with RISP, this team is fairly scrappy – they don’t give up. If they are given a chance to win, they will often take advantage. Leadership – the Yankees need it from them and badly.

  341. Teixeiramvp (JobaCyYoung) May 5th, 2009 at 5:31 pm

    Source-I heard it’s beautiful and players say that they think it’s very similar to the old stadium.

  342. Boston Dave May 5th, 2009 at 5:32 pm

    “I have a feeling we’re going to go 4-15 or something against the Sox this year. We just don’t matchup well with them at all.”

    —–

    you willing to make a bet on your “feeling”?

    just give me an amount…

  343. Drive 4-5 May 5th, 2009 at 5:32 pm

    I cant help but wonder how all those people who accused Posada of doging it last week in Detroit feel now. Let this be a lesson against knee jerk reactions.

  344. Frank May 5th, 2009 at 5:32 pm

    They just showed a graphic on SNY– “Is Beltran the best player in NY?”

    I’d have to say yes. And Santana is the best pitcher. K-Rod is the best reliever (based on ERA and is much younger)

  345. Trevor May 5th, 2009 at 5:32 pm

    Nick that’s hardly dissing new YS. A lot fans feel the same way as Maddon. Peoples hearts are in the old place.

  346. dennis-costanza(sox fan) May 5th, 2009 at 5:32 pm

    NickSF.

    I am convinced that almost all of Maddon’s confidence, swagger and owning the Red Sox at Tampa is a result of you sending him a pair of Elvis Costello frames.

    Can you ask for them back?

    -dennis

  347. Teixeiramvp (JobaCyYoung) May 5th, 2009 at 5:33 pm

    Clint-Why?
    All thse games have been close, and that’s with bad starting pitching and no ARod.

  348. Law Boy May 5th, 2009 at 5:33 pm

    About time Burnett starts earning his money

  349. Aunt Becca-Optimist Prime May 5th, 2009 at 5:33 pm

    Dude, guys

    The old stadium was what it was because of everything that happened on the field.

    Wait ’till the New Stadium’s around a few (or 85) years and then decide again.

  350. Teixeiramvp (JobaCyYoung) May 5th, 2009 at 5:34 pm

    Frank-Really? Last year Mo had the lower ERA.
    The year is not over. Mo’s ERA will certainly go down.

  351. Boston Dave May 5th, 2009 at 5:34 pm

    “The JOB of reporting on baseball, does NOT require you to reveal your personal affiliation to who you root for, which many times is a result of where you were born, and who your family rooted for.”

    ——–

    Still, it’s easy to pick out the passionate journalists from the ones who see it as a job. Personally, I’d rather follow a writer who shares my enthusiasm than one who is indifferent or even worse, a fan of an opponent.

    I think Pete does a great job either way.

  352. Rockks May 5th, 2009 at 5:35 pm

    We’re not going anywhere this bullpen

    Unless you think the starters are going to throw 7-8 innings every time, you have to address the bullpen.

    By not addressing it, you’re putting pressure on them and the manager to stretch them out. The starter on 120 pitches > the bullpen. It’s not “burning them out”, it’s giving the team the best chance to win.

  353. Javitt May 5th, 2009 at 5:35 pm

    Chances of Joba going after yuck’s head tonight?

  354. Uncle Ellsworth May 5th, 2009 at 5:35 pm

    Frank
    May 5th, 2009 at 5:32 pm
    They just showed a graphic on SNY— “Is Beltran the best player in NY?”

    I’d have to say yes. And Santana is the best pitcher. K-Rod is the best reliever (based on ERA and is much younger)

    And Ramiro Pena has more clutch hits than David Wright!

  355. Boston Dave May 5th, 2009 at 5:36 pm

    “K-Rod is the best reliever ”

    ——–

    he’s not even close to Rivera

    based on ERA? who are you? Jerry Manuel? get real.

  356. Teixeiramvp (JobaCyYoung) May 5th, 2009 at 5:36 pm

    I really thought the “old stadium magic” thing was a myth.
    If you’re a good team you normally (with exceptions of course) play well at home. The Yankees were a very good team for a while and as a result the record at the Old Stadium was very good.
    Ad don’t use 2001 as an example how the Yankees just “didn’t have the magic” on the road. They went ahead despite being more or less dominated in the eighth inning thanks to Soriano’s bomb. If Mo gets the save, and he generally does, we’re just as magical away from home as at the Satdium.

  357. Uncle Ellsworth May 5th, 2009 at 5:37 pm

    Chances of Joba going after yuck’s head tonight?

    He’d have to throw into the Sox Dugout ’cause that’s where Youkless will be

  358. Baseball Fab May 5th, 2009 at 5:37 pm

    Some people, like Olney,Kirjinian(sp),Gammons etc really love the game you can tell, and I agree they are more fun to listen to as they really get it.

    Someday I would love for all writers, and the ilk to reveal who they root for if any, and then try to see how well that lines up with what our perception of them is

  359. Patrick May 5th, 2009 at 5:37 pm

    “PH”

    Matsui is way too good to be relegated to a pinch hitting role.

    A-rod + Matsui > Pena + A-rod (IMO)

  360. Teixeiramvp (JobaCyYoung) May 5th, 2009 at 5:37 pm

    Javitt-Zero. Youk is not playing.

  361. Nick in SF May 5th, 2009 at 5:37 pm

    I do not suggest that Mr. Maddon does not have the right to say whatever he wants (except he would be truly reckless to use the phrase “Posada Truthers” in the wrong company).

    I do suggest that we Yankees fans are within our own rights to think him a buttinski and a meddler and take offense at his silly remarks.

    Or maybe I just wanted to give folks an opportunity to take a short break from the ‘woe is us’ act and enjoy a ‘shmoe is him’ moment.

  362. BX 44 May 5th, 2009 at 5:38 pm

    The Bruney injury hurts more than any of them at the moment

    We have no setup man. We have no reliever who can pitch clean innings.

    We’re forcing Melancon to grow up fast

  363. Teixeiramvp (JobaCyYoung) May 5th, 2009 at 5:38 pm

    Nick in SF-Point wel taken. Good effort on the “shmoe” moment thing.

  364. Teixeiramvp (JobaCyYoung) May 5th, 2009 at 5:39 pm

    BX 44-I am a Melancon guy. He’ll do fine.

  365. Bruce May 5th, 2009 at 5:39 pm

    If I’m Cashman, I assume Posada is not coming back this year.

    I go out and get a legit catcher like Max Ramirez or someone

  366. YankeeRay May 5th, 2009 at 5:40 pm

    Trish, I may be in the same boat soon as my company is about to be acquired and not sure if I’ll survive.
    That said, will you still marry me?
    Hang in there as everything will work out for you.

  367. Teixeiramvp (JobaCyYoung) May 5th, 2009 at 5:40 pm

    Bruce-I agree about the legit catcher. But because of a hamstring strain you assume he’s not coming back at all?

  368. SJ44 May 5th, 2009 at 5:41 pm

    Pat M,

    Its definitely true this team always gives up the early games to the Sox.

    But, don’t you get the feeling something isn’t right with this team? I don’t mean the injuries. Every team has injuries.

    They just can’t make the big play in games anymore. Don’t make the big pitch when needed. Definitely don’t get the big hit when needed.

    I just think the year to year turnover, coupled with huge FA contracts, just adds to the stress of this team.

    They don’t play with a looseness a good team plays with.

    Now, a team could grow into that. However, this team still plays tight.

    Are they going to loosen up when Arod gets back? Not likely.

    I think the pitching is going to have to find a way to get much, much better in the next month or the division will get away from them.

    It just seems like a very, very tight team to me and it shows no sign of loosening up.

    A win tonight could really help them in that regard.

  369. Brandon "We are all going to meet Berroa under the Oneill banner" "I LOVE ME SOME ME !" May 5th, 2009 at 5:41 pm

    “Matsui is way too good to be relegated to a pinch hitting role.”

    You want to get him hurt, by all means

  370. Patrick May 5th, 2009 at 5:42 pm

    Yeah Joe Maddon is a dope.

    Good 5:28 post Pete, really puts things in perspective. I expect Posada back towards the end of June. :(

  371. Teixeiramvp (JobaCyYoung) May 5th, 2009 at 5:42 pm

    I reaaaally want to respond to the knucklehead (we all know who I mean). But I won’t…

  372. How ya doin? how how ya doin? May 5th, 2009 at 5:42 pm

    you play to win the game. HELLO

  373. stuart May 5th, 2009 at 5:43 pm

    yea Maddon the manager that plays in a total dump is talking about Yankee Stadium… Newsflash the tickets are overpriced, a big Yankee management mistake.. They need to rectify it.. We do have a severe economic downturn occuring so they need to adjust.

    the yanks are averaging 40 + thousand a game, check out league attendance.. tampa drew in the 20,000 last week when they palyed the sux.

    yanks will still lead of the league i nattendance and some of the tickets are priced so high it is a joke….

    on the draft prospects, they have plenty of them.. theresystem was totally devoid of talent about 5 years ago and now it is not and improving all the time…is it the best in baseball? I have no idea but it has many more prospects then they had 5 yrs ago and are continuing to improve it.. BTW Hughes is 22, Joba 23, and Melancon 23 or 24… Melky no mickey mantle is 24, cano is 25 or 26, this is not asenior citizen team….all the espn propoganda is bologna, look things up on your own and do some research.. again why do the yanks avg. more runs scored per game then the sux if there offense is substantially worse then the sux???I am all eyes and ears……….

  374. dave May 5th, 2009 at 5:43 pm

    So lemme get this straight – fans overpayed for the ridiculously priced yankee tickets yesterday, drove to the bronx, payed 20 plus dollars for parking, probably bought food at some point and waited around the stadium for the over two hours rain delay, asked team employees who should be pretty reliable (its not like they are calling up asking their friend to check weather,com) who said that the game was cancelled, walked out of the stadium, found out the game wasnt cancelled and were not let back on. OF COURSE THAT WOULD RESULT IN A FIGHT . Are you kidding me? I would be sooo ticked off, i wouldnt even want to be near me in a situation like that. I cant imagine. And the balls on these guards to deny them entrance at that point especially since its was the yankees own employees telling them to leave.

    And im sure the guards did it in some sort of nasty, I dont have time for you sort of way like they do to me even though they are supposed to be working to make the game more enjoyable. I thought security guards were hired mainly for the fans benefit but it seems in yankee stadium they are hired just to piss fans off like putting guards to block empty seats in the guard stand when the game is almost over to make sure the fans who got screwed getting bleacher seats dont actually get to sit anywhere close to a decent seat.

    I am disgusted with this story but I cant say Im particularly surprised. Afterall, this kind of BS falls right in line with most other things the organization has done to screw in one way or another almost all of the fans that are actually fans. They said before they actually moved that seat placement was going to be comparable and I moved from the field level third base line to the bleachers in left. They said the packages were going to be comparable and then, they eliminate almost all the small season ticket plans and took away all the special games. They said we would have options in terms of seating and outside of buying an 80 game plan, we had no other option except buy the crappy tickets or dont.

    Oh yea, and parking and food prices are higher when they were supposed to stay the same or so they said last season. This newest story is just another way the organization treated their fans without any respect at all apparently thinking it is pretty easy to replace a yankee fan with a new stadium. I dont think it is so easy to find fans that actually care to come to a game when all the old fans stop coming because of the mistreatment. And if the team loses this year and doesnt even make the playoffs, they better think about bringing the prices back down to last years level because cutting the most expensive tickets in the stadium in half when you have to buy a season ticket plan for those seats in May isnt going to change anything. Particularly, when those seat prices are still three times the price they cost at citifield.

  375. Teixeiramvp (JobaCyYoung) May 5th, 2009 at 5:43 pm

    SJ44-No I really don’t feel that way. We’ve gotten the big hit and pitch several times this season already and have a few really good comebacks.

  376. Patrick May 5th, 2009 at 5:44 pm

    “You want to get him hurt, by all means”

    Huh? Matsui is fine dude, he’s raking right now and is one of the only remaining impact bats in the lineup.

    That doesn’t make any sense to bench Matsui because you are afraid he gets hurt.

  377. Trevor May 5th, 2009 at 5:45 pm

    Here’s to seeing either Melancon and/or Robertson tonight. Neither one has been seen on a mound in a few days. Don’t want to see the 3 Stooges.

  378. Billy May 5th, 2009 at 5:45 pm

    I love the potential of Melancon and have followed him closely. He did not enter far enough games with inherited runners in scoring position. He pitched multiple innings but learned to get out of my own jams.

  379. Nick in SF May 5th, 2009 at 5:45 pm

    dennis: Mr. Maddon can wear any frames he wants, but I say his aim is *not* true, he is *last* year’s model, and I do *not* trust him.

  380. MaineYankee May 5th, 2009 at 5:45 pm

    soxnation

    Course you wouldn’t know anything about quitters would you. (Manny)

  381. Teixeiramvp (JobaCyYoung) May 5th, 2009 at 5:45 pm

    Trevor-MELANCON.

  382. Drive 4-5 May 5th, 2009 at 5:45 pm

    “They just showed Joe Maddon dissing the new Yankee stadium on the Rays broadcast. Paraphrasing: “They can put ‘Yankee Stadium’ up on it, but it’s not. The real one is across the street… there’s only one Yankee Stadium.”

    Who does this guy think he is???”

    Personally, I think he’s correct. I finally got to use my wonderful Weekday Plan season tickets last night. We used to sit in Section 2 behind home plate.We now sit in the last row of Section 431B.It’s no wonder you can find seats below face value on StubHub. Rather than being on top of the field like the Yankee Stadium upper deck,you feel like youre in another zip code in the new ballpark. If youre anywhere near our section, bring binoculars. The amenities are nice, especially if you’re rich. I love the facade. Other than that, I’d do a happy dance if they bulldozed the new place tomorrow and moved back into the real Yankee Stadium.

  383. Brandon "We are all going to meet Berroa under the Oneill banner" "I LOVE ME SOME ME !" May 5th, 2009 at 5:46 pm

    You’d have to limit Matsui’s ABs just to keep Alex fresh and Alex is not sitting over Matsui. Your going to see Matsui hit as a PH otherwise he’s going to get hurt or Alex will playing day to day at 3B.

  384. James 3D May 5th, 2009 at 5:46 pm

    I can’t blame Cashman for the bullpen

    How could he or any of us have thought that the pen would be THIS bad? They can’t get anyone out without giving up runs. Like the Mets last year. 29th ranked Bullpen ERA, only the Angels are worse.

  385. Teixeiramvp (JobaCyYoung) May 5th, 2009 at 5:46 pm

    MaineYankee-I’m cracking. Yooouuuuk…
    Wait, he’s not playing.

  386. Teixeiramvp (JobaCyYoung) May 5th, 2009 at 5:48 pm

    I think our bullpen will get betteras Bruney comes back and guys learn ther roles.

  387. Al from BK May 5th, 2009 at 5:48 pm

    With Posada out until likely mid-June. I see us .500 at the ASB. Not good at all, the pen is going to blow a lot of games and the hitting will continue to be atrocious regardless of A-Rod.

  388. Teixeiramvp (JobaCyYoung) May 5th, 2009 at 5:50 pm

    Al from BK-Atrocious? We’re in the top half of the league!
    W/no Posada+ARod and the real Tex, we’re maybe a bat and a half better than we were since Tex has arrived for theseason and ARod is a better player than Jorge.

  389. Gates May 5th, 2009 at 5:50 pm

    We did have plenty of depth at the beginning of the season— Bruney, Marte, Coke, Melancon, Veras, Edwar, Robertson, Aceves, Tomko, Albaladejo, Sanchez, Claggett, Jackson etc. who knew that all of them would be ineffective at the same time except Bruney? (and Melancon is unproven)

    Just bad luck.

  390. dennis-costanza(sox fan) May 5th, 2009 at 5:50 pm

    NickSF.

    Well played. Hope EC is adjusting to his new digs.

    Any plays this eve that I need to pull for other than the only game that matters this eve?

    -dennis

  391. MaineYankee May 5th, 2009 at 5:51 pm

    Tex

    I usually don’t feed the trolls but I couldn’t resist. :lol:

  392. Teixeiramvp (JobaCyYoung) May 5th, 2009 at 5:51 pm

    Gotta go guys.
    Go Yankees!

  393. Betsy May 5th, 2009 at 5:51 pm

    wow, that’s bad news about Jorge – why am I not surprised? I’m trying very hard not to get depressed about this, but it’s hard.

  394. Y26 May 5th, 2009 at 5:51 pm

    SJ – Great post. This team does lack a certain edge and does not play loose. They may be lose in the clubhouse and the dugout, but if you watch them, they are as tight as a drum.

  395. Pat M May 5th, 2009 at 5:52 pm

    Yeah Randy, They have looked tight all season especially in Boston….I though and still do, that another 4-5 game run will continue to transform that mentality….They also look flat as a result and play only a few innings ( 7th-9th )….I still say they’ll be the team to beat come July….

  396. Uncle Ellsworth May 5th, 2009 at 5:53 pm

    Maddon should stop his Cryin, Waitin, Hoping… That’ll Be The Day when his ballpark comes close to YS. Yankee Stadium magic will Not Fade Away

  397. stuart May 5th, 2009 at 5:53 pm

    all you Einsteins need to know is the yanks have a worse ERA then the cleveland Indians…….

    Look it up Sherlocks….

    they have a worse pitching staff then the indians YTD but let’s talk about the 3rd best offense.. let’s tweak this and trade for that to help the offense.

    tell CC,AJ, and the gang to do what they are paid to do, problem solved……

  398. Nick in SF May 5th, 2009 at 5:53 pm

    Trisha, just read your post above about your personal situation. I have every confidence that you’ll land on your feet due to your talent and hard work, but best of luck anyway.

  399. dave May 5th, 2009 at 5:54 pm

    I dont blame cash for the pen as much as i blame him for molina being pretty much our only option right now at catcher. You have a 37 year old catcher who was injured almost all of last season and has to catch a decent amount this season and the guy is going to get hurt at some point 9 times out of 10. And who do we bring in to try to ease the burden of replacing a guy like posada when molina didnt work last year and crumbled as an every day player? NOBODY THAS WHO. Great job cash – what a good magic trick. Sign the big name players and then, go on vacation. And the pen is cash’s fault of course. Who else is to blame? He didnt add a single piece to it this off season expecting about five or six relievers with one decent year under their belts to come back and perform like 2008 and that is an unrealistic expectation for those guys. We have three proven relievers in the organization and marte has yet to prove himself in NY.

    Melancon is going to be great but he cant be relied upon a week into his major league career to be the setup guy. SO YES, it is cashmans fault. Posada getting injured and the bullpen being highly volatile are both completely foreseeable. I saw those two moves as our two greatest needs towards the end of the last off-season and if I can see them, then Im sure they are foreseeable to cashman. And he did nothing, NOTHING AT ALL to plug either one of them and now we are going to have to suffer through this. BUT IT MOST CERTAINLY IS CASHMANS FAULT – there is no one, i repeat no one else to blame for it.

  400. Trevor May 5th, 2009 at 5:54 pm

    At least YS isn’t named after Orange Juice. I don’t have a problem with what Maddon said but I’m sure he would love to be managing in a first class facility.
    Tropicana Field is the worst looking park in baseball. And they’re not getting a park (to my knowledge) anytime soon. But the Marlins are.

  401. Harold May 5th, 2009 at 5:57 pm

    If you know the team hasn’t won in 8 years (for a franchise who has a mandate that you must win the WS every year) and are afraid to get booed and have to deal with the media and live up to a contract etc….. why would you play loose? Some of these guys just can’t handle all that. Our players have to deal with all this.

    The Sox can play loose– they have nothing to prove. They are the model franchise in the sport. All of their players have rings and championship pedigree. They have tremendous confidence and swagger from all the success they have had. Their young players all have achieved so much (MVP for Pedroia, No hitter for Lester, GG/Allstar for Youkallis, world series rings for all of them etc.) they can just relax.

  402. Teixeiramvp (JobaCyYoung) May 5th, 2009 at 5:57 pm

    bmass-Why would I do that if it’s not true?

  403. Joe from Long Island May 5th, 2009 at 5:58 pm

    SJ44 – I usually find your comments insightful, but I have to disagree on one, above, where you call on the Yanks to trade for a catcher, and get it done.

    Well, as you know, it takes two to trade. As I remember, (granted I may have details wrong), the Red Sox tried desperately to NOT sign Varitek this past winter, and tried to acquire one of Texas’ surplus. Reportedly, Jon Daniels wanted Bucholz in return, and that killed the deal.

    So, what if Mr. Daniels tells Cash, sure, he can have Teagarden, but it’ll cost Joba, or Phil Hughes. You still want to make that deal?

    I read once that Gene Michael said, you can always make a trade. The question is what is what’s it gonna cost.

  404. stuart May 5th, 2009 at 5:58 pm

    dave is the starting rotation Cahsmans fault also??

    Please share your pearls of wisdom with us….

    CC, AJ, Joba, Wang, the ineffectiveness I assume that is Cashmans fault, please explain….

    The Yanks also had the 5th best pen last year ERA wise and added Melancon(stud) and guys with another year under there belt and Marte for a full season and now they are the worst in baseball and this could have been predicted.. Dave what stocks should I buy??

    Give me a break, you are another clown….

  405. Nick in SF May 5th, 2009 at 5:59 pm

    dennis: I already got bulldozed by Manchester United today, ouch. I really like the SF Giants with Lincecum pitching, but that’s also in the rear view mirror. I’m thinking of a Cavs/Cavs-over/Mavs teaser, and I’m thinking I like the Cavs to cover the 12, I think they’re on a mission to be in cruise control until Kobe comes calling, but my thoughts on both of those matters are not too deep. This will be a lay-low evening for me. Oh, I do like Joba vs Blister. :)

  406. SJ44 May 5th, 2009 at 5:59 pm

    A Grade 2 tear? Expect him out for 2 months.

    As a catcher, he can’t come back off that and be a 70-80%. Its 100% or nothing.

    That means, 2 months. A killer blow to this team.

    They can’t have Molina and Cervelli catch for 2 months and expect to get anywhere.

    They are going to have to go outside the organization for a catcher and if it means overpaying, so be it.

  407. Teixeiramvp (JobaCyYoung) May 5th, 2009 at 5:59 pm

    2 championships after over 80 years, yeah the model franchise in sport.
    The model franchise (and I’m a Giants fan)-Pittsburgh Steelers. They won their two championships in a league where it’s tougher to string together championships and in a shorter amount of time.

  408. CB May 5th, 2009 at 6:00 pm

    “Even if the pitching staff pitches up to expectations from here on out, without Jorge there are no guarantees. The Yanks need to get more bench help now, and even so it’s going to be a “close run thing” (to quote the Duke of Wellington) with Boston and Tampa.”

    I agree. It was going to be a toss up going into the season with the Yankees perhaps having a small, but significant edge due to their pitching.

    But that was life on paper or in a computer simulation.

    Their margin for error is now gone.

    In missing Alex for the first 5 weeks (or longer depending on how hot/cold he starts out as until he returns t baseline form…) and now Jorge until June they’ve traded in net all start level performance at one composite position for replacement level production.

    And with that close to half season replacement level production any advantage they may have had coming into the season is wiped out.

    Having Alex and Jorge out for half the season is going to cost them between 3-4 wins off the top of my head given that they are being replaced by Ransom/Berroa/ Pena and Molina/Cervelli.

    3-4 wins. That’s just enormous. Very hard to overcome those lost wins unless boston or tampa has similar injuries to one of their key players.

  409. Teixeiramvp (JobaCyYoung) May 5th, 2009 at 6:01 pm

    Grade 2 tear-hmmm…
    I guess we’ll have to sign a catcher.
    Maybe Posada’ll be back sooner than thought. He beat the odds to get back healthy this year.

  410. JoeyA May 5th, 2009 at 6:01 pm

    Could somebody please find the BB totals for teams starting pitching.

    Maybe I’m wrong, but we have to be up in the top 5 walks allowed by our starting pitching.

    Every start, outside of AJ’s first two and Andy’s, have been a struggle to find the zone.

    Even when CC keeps us in the game, he is not commanding his pitches in the zone.

    I would really appreciate it. Thanks.

  411. Teixeiramvp (JobaCyYoung) May 5th, 2009 at 6:02 pm

    That being said, you absolutely can’t count on Jorge beating the odds.

  412. EvoLuTioN May 5th, 2009 at 6:02 pm

    GREAT news on arod :D

  413. Mark21 May 5th, 2009 at 6:02 pm

    The funny part is

    If you watch the Sox and Yanks play, you would think that it was the Sox who was the team that hadn’t won in a while and was the underdog with nothing to prove and can just have fun and not have to deal with pressure because they are not supposed to win

    And you would think it was the Yankees who were tight as a drum because they have won so much lately and they feel pressure to win and beat the Sox because they are expected to.

    When in reality, the tables are turned. They are the team that has won and playing lose, we’re the team that hasn’t won that is playing tight

  414. Joe from Long Island May 5th, 2009 at 6:04 pm

    And, for what it’s worth (no jokes, please), I think the lineup tonight is plenty good to win. It all depends on the quality of the starting pitching. If people play as they are capable of, they have the talent to win.

    Last year, the year of Sir Sidney, Darrell Rasner and Dan Geise, they won 89 games. It’s all of May 5th and they’re all of 2.5 games behind Boston.

  415. dave May 5th, 2009 at 6:04 pm

    SJ,

    When did you become so overly negative? I dont remember you being like this before. And this team is 100 times better than last year in terms of talent and ability. I really think that it will take quite a lot to prevent this team from making the playoffs – like a whirlwind of injuries all year. Of course, you never know with us but i really think they have a good shot at being a solid team. Its only the beginning of May and we are over 500 without arod or wang contributing anything positive whatsoever. Thas our best hitter and our ace the past few seasons. We could be doing better but honestly, that isnt too bad. The team has its fair share of problems already but it can overcome them if they just get on a role after arod comes back.

  416. AZTravos May 5th, 2009 at 6:04 pm

    Yeah… we’re pretty much screwed

    Go work the phones Cashman, or our season could take a major turn for the worse. Posada is that important.

  417. Joany May 5th, 2009 at 6:05 pm

    JoeyA
    May 5th, 2009 at 6:01 pm
    Could somebody please find the BB totals for teams starting pitching.

    I’ll get right on it, Can I get you some coffee too?

  418. Teixeiramvp (JobaCyYoung) May 5th, 2009 at 6:05 pm

    I don’t think we’re playing “tight”. People just can’t accept that they’ve lost so much and are latching on to this rather unspecific reason rather than saying we’ve been outplayed and it happens and we always beat the Sox in the second half of the season.

  419. Betsy May 5th, 2009 at 6:06 pm

    So who are we willing to give up to get a catcher?

  420. dennis-costanza(sox fan) May 5th, 2009 at 6:07 pm

    Nick.

    I took the Cle/Atl over but not Cle. I am going to take the NNY as it is the pleased either way plus the Sox lineup this eve is brutal.

    Looking ahead, I really like the over in Cle/Sox tomorrow. Pavano-Masterson. Should be a 7-6 game IMO. That is my 5 star lock of the week. That means take the under!!

    -dennis

  421. Betsy May 5th, 2009 at 6:07 pm

    It’s not about being negative, it’s about being realistic. I wonder who else is going to get hurt – every day, it’s an injury watch.

  422. cano he didnt May 5th, 2009 at 6:07 pm

    OMG what are we going to do! im so worried at our position in the beginning of may! look how far behind we are! dont we always beat everyone at the start if the season! we never win games after may!…….wowwww some people gotta chill.

  423. Teixeiramvp (JobaCyYoung) May 5th, 2009 at 6:08 pm

    Joe from Long Island-EXACTLY.
    Sj44-You do seem to be much more pessimistic…I remember one day I said that our bullpen sucked, and you called me a whiny twelve year old. Now you seem to be grouped with the group of people who always believe that the Yankees will lose, they’re never good enough, they just don’t have “it”…etc.
    Why the sudden attitude change?

  424. randy l. May 5th, 2009 at 6:08 pm

    ” I cant help but wonder how all those people who accused Posada of doging it last week in Detroit feel now.”

    what would have happened if posada would have been disabled then?

    he couldn’t run. he was hurt.

    he probably would have been out two weeks and then would have avoided the deeper injury.

    the question at the the time was two weeks or risk 6-8 weeks?

    someone made a bad decision.

  425. SJ44 May 5th, 2009 at 6:08 pm

    Joe,

    The Yankees have to make a tough decision.

    Is this a “rebuilding year” with a 210 million dollar payroll or do they want to make a playoff run?

    If its a “rebuilding year”, knock off another 50% off the ticket prices, call up Austin Jackson in July (if he is still hitting), tell the fans they don’t want to make any deals, and just play it out the rest of the year.

    If they want to try and make a playoff run, they need a catcher.

    They can’t make a playoff run with Cervelli and Molina catching. They just can’t.

    Look at last year’s playoff teams and find me a team that had catching that weak. It can’t be done.

    Yes, it takes two to make a trade. However, the Yankees have a surplus of something very few teams in the game have right now. Young arms at every level of the organization.

    If they can’t make a trade to get a catcher, they need a new GM. Plain and simple.

    You don’t have to trade Joba and Hughes for a catcher.

    You can trade a George Kontos, Ryan Pope, perhaps even a Zach McAllister if the catcher is one of a higher regard.

    If not, keep McAllister and use Kontos and a few of the other guys as bait. They have the depth in the system to make a deal. Question is, will they use it?

    Its the most important position on the field. The Yankees tried it the “in house” way last year and got nowhere.

    That has to change this year.

    Not only for this year but, for next year too.

    Its pretty clear the day of Jorge catching 100-110 games are over.

    They can’t wait for A Ball guys to be ready. They need a catcher.

    Better to get it now and move on, than wait any longer, IMO.

  426. Erik Sec. 309 May 5th, 2009 at 6:09 pm

    Posada going out pretty much cancels out the immediate effect ARod will have on the lineup………..uggggghhhh.

  427. Guard May 5th, 2009 at 6:09 pm

    The team is too tight and putting too much pressure on itself.

    I thought people said that AJ Burnett learning Chinese would loosen up the team?

  428. Al from BK May 5th, 2009 at 6:09 pm

    Give up IPK and Gardner for Salty.

  429. Drive 4-5 May 5th, 2009 at 6:10 pm

    What Red Sox have and the Yankees do not have, is a huge home field advantage. They have a team that hits and pitches much better at Fenway than on the road. Pedroia is a perfect example. His career batting average is 56 points higher in Fenway ( over 100 points better so far in ’09). He’s hit 66 doubles in Fenway, but only 39 on the road. He won the MVP last year because he was such a force at home and it translated into one of the best home records in baseball vs a losing record on the road.

    The Yankees on the other hand havent played appreciably better at home than on the road in a few years. The home record may be better, but the style of play remains the same for better or worse.

  430. bru May 5th, 2009 at 6:10 pm

    my questions would be is why didn’t the yankees get a new younger catcher,bullpen help & fix cf??

    they seem to react to problems instead of setting themselves up going forward.

    i would of traded for a cf & catcher or signed free agents.

    you can;t spend 209 million on payroll & wait for prospects to mature.

    if they are ready bring them up if not fix the problems now.

    they got so happy about the pitching staff that they ignored everything else.

  431. Teixeiramvp (JobaCyYoung) May 5th, 2009 at 6:10 pm

    Erik Sec. 309-ARod is betterthan Jorge and Tex is showing up. I think our lineup will still be a good bat and a half better.

  432. BBall May 5th, 2009 at 6:10 pm

    I would put my money on Burnett (being the next to the DL)

    It is amazing… everyone has basically been hurt this year except him. What were the odds on that lol

  433. Teixeiramvp (JobaCyYoung) May 5th, 2009 at 6:11 pm

    Drive 4-5: Who cares about the style of play if the record is better.
    As long as we win lots of games, I don’t care how many it takes on the road or at home.

  434. dave May 5th, 2009 at 6:11 pm

    Stuart

    Thats funny you should think that considering I was saying that cash should get another arm ALL THE END OF LAST OFF SEASON. People used those same lame arguments you said above. But it didnt matter because they dont have any experience outside of two or three guys. Two or three out of 12 or 13 isnt enough. Marte did not show us much of anything last year which is an ominous sign. Melancon was not even supposed to be called up nearly this early if everything was on track and cannot be expected to become a huge factor right off the bat. SO YES, cash could have easily saw the need for another arm. And this IS NOT HINDSIGHT. I said it 100 times before. If i knew about stocks, id tell you about that but I know about the yanks so I can predict things – its not fortune telling. Its just thinking about what few holes could we plug without paying much money.

    And it was a reliever and a backup catcher- needs that can be filled on the cheap with some smart moves. but thas cash’s problem – he has no clue how to make the smart and cheap moves. Thas why we never have a solid bench or enough depth it seems. This isnt rocket science or brain surgery. You see a hole you can mend on the cheap, you fix it cheaply in the off-season. You dont wait for the thing to become glaring and then, scramble for a player via trade and give up unnecessary talent. Is that me telling the future? Have some common sense.

  435. Nick in SF May 5th, 2009 at 6:12 pm

    “I remember one day I said that our bullpen sucked, and you called me a whiny twelve year old.”

    Maybe the attitude change is his way of saying ‘Happy Birthday!’ and ‘Today, you are a man. Mazel tov!’

  436. Jeff NJ May 5th, 2009 at 6:13 pm

    Obviously the Posada news is bad. I’d bet on about a 4 week recovery. I hope they can live with Molina. Overall though, I think the team is starting to right itself. A Rod is coming back, Tex is coming on, Hughes is pitching much better than Wang did and the bullpen has 3 arms in Melancon, Robertson and Aceves who should be more reliable than the pen has been so far.

    Yes, the Red Sox have the Yankees number right now, but the Yankees record is 5-2-1 in all the series they have played this year. The only series they have lost are the opening one in BAL and then BOS, so overall, things are not as bad as it feels sometimes.

  437. dennis-costanza(sox fan) May 5th, 2009 at 6:13 pm

    Off topic….

    Anyone else fed up hearing/reading about Brett Favre? It was a good run.

    -dennis

  438. Teixeiramvp (JobaCyYoung) May 5th, 2009 at 6:14 pm

    Nick in SF-You think I’m old enough to buy a car?

  439. Freddy H May 5th, 2009 at 6:14 pm

    Anyone notice how Francona and the rest of the team laughs for everything bad that happens to us?

    Ellsbury stole home and Francona is on the top step laughing

    Yesterday, the 1B coach was telling him about how Girardi thought he was stealing signs and he was laughing and Papi gave him a high five.

    Such is the life when you have won 2 titles in 5 years, you can be loose and laugh at other people’s anger.

  440. Joany May 5th, 2009 at 6:16 pm

    What happened to “Zero Tolerance” for trolls?

  441. dave May 5th, 2009 at 6:17 pm

    nO ONE would have logically predicted wang would be a mess to start the season but i KNOW that was just a smart@$$ question on your part so I dont know why I am even answering that.

    Do you really think i come on this blog in may and just start making up what I was saying all throughout January and february? I dont think so. I said it then and now, I am just steamed that I can foresee which holes to fill better than our esteemed GM apparently.

  442. Nick in SF May 5th, 2009 at 6:17 pm

    Texmvp: I have no idea how old you are, but Doogie Howser owned a car!

    (also, it was a joke)

  443. SJ44 May 5th, 2009 at 6:18 pm

    Dave,

    I’m a realist. I’m not a cheerleader.

    They played the most important guy on the team with a bad hamstring on a wet field last night and he blew it out.

    You think that’s a smart decision? I don’t.

    Taken as a whole, its a series of bad decisions this team has, and continues to, make and it hurts their chances for the post-season.

    Every team loves themselves in ST. However, stuff happens during the season.

    How a team reacts to it, and solves its issues, determines their fate.

    Its not being negative to ask how in the world Posada is in the lineup, given the condition of the field, last night.

    Or to ask, how in the world does Chien Ming Wang leave ST with weakness in his injured foot and NOBODY picks that up?

    Or, its not out of line to ask that if the most expensive guy on the team had a hip problem last year, why no MRI or monitoring of it in the off-season.

    That’s just 3 examples. I can give you more if you like.

    That’s not being negative, those are legitimate questions.

    If I owned the team, I’d sure as hell like the answer to those questions.

    Those 3 issues may very well keep this team out of the playoffs again this year.

    That’s not an overstatement.

    The same mistakes every, single year. Names change, payroll changes but, the same mistakes.

    That ain’t good.

  444. Baseball Fab May 5th, 2009 at 6:18 pm

    I find it stunning that anyone could write about the Sox having such a huge advantage playing at fenway with that joke of a rightfield in the OLD Yankee stadium, not even mentioning the RIDICULOUS right field in the new Stadium.

  445. Teixeiramvp (JobaCyYoung) May 5th, 2009 at 6:18 pm

    Nick in SF-Am I really that bad? I was continuing the joke.

  446. Drive 4-5 May 5th, 2009 at 6:19 pm

    Teixeiramvp (JobaCyYoung)
    May 5th, 2009 at 6:11 pm
    Drive 4-5: Who cares about the style of play if the record is better.
    As long as we win lots of games, I don’t care how many it takes on the road or at home.

    Problem is, they’re not nearly as good at home than Boston. Since the end of ’07 Boston is 29 games over .500 at home, the Yanks only 17 games.

  447. Chubbo May 5th, 2009 at 6:20 pm

    Gardner and IPK for Salty HAHAHAHAHA

    Some you jackasses insist on attributing value to “IPK” and “Gardy”

    Hey Texas will you take our $hit and give us your franchise?

    Please…?

  448. stuart May 5th, 2009 at 6:20 pm

    yeah Dave I beleive everythign you are saying .the 5th best pen, wit ha full season and young coke, and totally healed Bruney, Marte for a full season and about 6 power arms in the minors could be predicted from bing the 5th best ERA to the 29th in a few months.

    BS.. You are a typical whiny, spoiled yankee fan who has no clue. I remember in 99, the mariners came into YS andswept the Yanks the mariners won about 105 games in the regular season I also remember what happened in the playoffs.

    again ; coke, bruney, melancon, Mo, marte, and whomever should be a good pen..

    On the catcher front more crystal ball work for you; backup catchers in the al east today are Kotteras, hernandez, moeller, molina, and I have no clue how toronto has.. You are correct Dave great backup catchers are all over the place.. the tampa backup hernandez and moeller are yankee retreads.

    Get a clue…………

  449. SJ44 May 5th, 2009 at 6:20 pm

    Al,

    IPK and Gardner doesn’t even start a conversation for a good catcher. That’s a non-starter.

  450. Al from BK May 5th, 2009 at 6:21 pm

    If this team can survive til July without Jorge or bullpen help. Then maybe we make a heroic post ASB run.

  451. CB May 5th, 2009 at 6:21 pm

    “Posada going out pretty much cancels out the immediate effect ARod will have on the lineup………..uggggghhhh.”

    On the flip side the team is scoring close to 6 runs a game.

    They’ve been bad with RISP and the distribution of their runs over games is an issue.

    But if they were only to stay at the status quo with ARod coming back and Posada being hurt that wouldn’t be so bad.

    But will Cano, Swisher, and Melky keep hitting like they have been? Unlikely.

    The one other area of upside they have is Teixeira. He’s been awful and that won’t last.

    Tex and Alex should be the best 3-4 place hitters in the game.

    Now they’ll need to be.

  452. dave May 5th, 2009 at 6:21 pm

    Why are the yanks so damn injury prone? Most of the guys on the dl are younger guys also. And what the heck is with the yankees and hamstring problems? Is it my imagination or do the yanks have far, far more hamstring issues than all other teams in baseball combined.

  453. Kernal May 5th, 2009 at 6:21 pm

    Hope Joba pitches better than Hughes

    Biggest game of the year

  454. Teixeiramvp (JobaCyYoung) May 5th, 2009 at 6:21 pm

    Drive 4-5: Maybe. But we’re not playing to bad at home so far this year. Anyway, if we play really well on the road who cares.

  455. Joe from Long Island May 5th, 2009 at 6:21 pm

    SJ44 – I agree, they are not looking at this as a rebuilding year, not when you spend that kind of coin. Yes, trading Pope or Kontos or even McAllister for a good young catcher sounds great. But it still takes two to deal.

    I wish I could remember who it was, but it was a longtime GM who said last year that it had become much more difficult to make a trade. Used to be, you found a logical match that helped both sides, and you were done. Now, the philosophy seems to be that you have to rob the other party blind, maybe to look good to fans or talk shows. Hence, more difficult to deal.

    Besides, even though I’m not in the business world, seems to me that the best way to negotiate is from a position of strength. If Cash were to broadcast that Posada is out for 2 months, at least, and the Yanks are desperate to justify their investment, he’s going to be raped. The best thing for Cash to make a deal, I think, is for the team to suck it up, and get it done as is.

  456. S.A.--It's a marathon, not a sprint. Calm down. May 5th, 2009 at 6:22 pm

    Trisha-good luck to you. I was rereading the thread and saw your post about your current situation. Hang in there.

    Favre going to the Vikings maybe? Enough! Stay retired man!!

    So, let’s get a win tonight. Go Jobber! :D

  457. Joe May 5th, 2009 at 6:23 pm

    No guarantee that A-Rod is effective immediately anyway either.

  458. Al from BK May 5th, 2009 at 6:23 pm

    Okay then Hughes and Melky for Salty. He is a future franchise catcher, and Jorge can be the full time DH next season with Damon and Godzilla off the books.

  459. stuart May 5th, 2009 at 6:25 pm

    SJ you are correct if the wang and arod situation were management being dilligent..

    posada should not have been playing yesterday id his hammy was giving him problems.. I assume it was not else it is his fault and mamangements that he played and there should be consequences for that foolishness.

    On the arod front if he did not inform them of his discomfort when it started he is an idiot and same for wang… maybe they need some new doctors………

  460. GLENDALE May 5th, 2009 at 6:25 pm

    The season can still be salvaged if Cashman decides to salvage it.

    Kind of pathetic how we are in a state of crisis every single May. Why can’t this team ever start out fast and stay injury free/.

  461. GLENDALE May 5th, 2009 at 6:25 pm

    What about Hughes for Salty and Neftali Feliz?

  462. vtred May 5th, 2009 at 6:26 pm

    Is Saltalamaachia even a catcher still?

    I thought he was going to be a 1st baseman eventually

  463. SJ44 May 5th, 2009 at 6:27 pm

    Joe,

    No doubt. But, if this team doesn’t make the playoffs, the manager, coaching staff and GM are gone. So, if you are the GM, you do what you have to do.

    Its not easy, and its certainly not the best situation imaginable but you do what you have to do because too much is invested in this team to just throw up your hands and say, “we can’t make a deal”.

    For the next couple of months, once again, its tread water time for the team.

    Stay within 5 games of a playoff spot from now until the 4th of July and hope they get healthy enough to make a run the second half of the year.

    Probably the best situation you can hope for right now given the injuries and the state of the roster.

  464. stuart May 5th, 2009 at 6:27 pm

    saltalammachia has not exactly dominated in the big leagues yet.. they are not trading hughes for him nor should they….

  465. Joe from Long Island May 5th, 2009 at 6:27 pm

    Who, if not Posada, was going to DH last night? Matsui, of the two bad knees? If he blew out a knee, Girardi gets ripped. Then who? Ramiro Pena? (I could see Pena starting instead of Berroa, though.) Brett Gardner? Not a lot of choices there. Brett and Melky is the starting lineup, wiht one as DH? You could, but you’re not sending your best lineup against Boston, your prime competition.

    Not a lot of choices there. Last year, Jeter and Alex got leg injuries playing in damp, cold weather in the spring. Neither is a 37 yo catcher with thick legs.

  466. Chubbo May 5th, 2009 at 6:28 pm

    Wow you want to bounce Hughes for Salty?

    Seems kinda irresponsible no?

    Seeing as how Santana wasn’t good enough to pry away Hughes I think logic would dictate otherwise.

  467. Pat M May 5th, 2009 at 6:29 pm

    They’ll survive without Jorge…..Look, They have Cano and Matsui back,,,They’ve added Texeria and Swisher…Getting Alex and Nady back will cure all offensive concerns….It’s going to come down to pitching…..Believe it or not, you can win with a .220 hitting defensive catcher ( Boston Angels, etc.) it’s been done many times before )…Yeah it hurts, but it’s far from being terminal…

  468. vin May 5th, 2009 at 6:29 pm

    “He (arod) otherwise refused to take questions.”

    Good – if he’s going to get burned alive by the press at every turn, then what’s the point of giving them kindling. I really hope he ONLY talks baseball from here on out… he gave Gammons the big interview – end of story.

  469. trisha - click to see my bigger and better Opening Day pictures May 5th, 2009 at 6:29 pm

    From Batting Practice:

    “Phil Hughes: I was frustrated. I continually hit spots I wanted to hit and didn’t get the call. It was frustrating.”

    Not of course that I want everyone to have to relive last night’s messed up game calling!!! Grr.

    Okay. Well, I postulated that if Cervelli got called up it would be a good sign about the Yankee organization’s take on Jorge’s injury. So I am now going to take it as a good sign.

    Again, to all of you who took time to give me words of encouragement, thank you so very much. Believe me, those words are so important and meaningful at a time like this. (In an ideal world they would call me in and say they wanted my services so much that they were willing to make the necessary changes. Of course those kinds of win/wins only happen to other people!)

    Doreen, I liked your post about the need to sometimes hash out our thoughts and feelings and look at the reality of the current situation and tell it like it is, from the heart – but then to regroup and still hold on to that optimism. To me that is the ideal way to process. I am right there with you. I really have good feelings about the way our season is going to play out, truly.

    And hey, doncha all remember the NY astrologers reading the whatever about the new Stadium and saying that it had nothing but good surrounding it? So there ya go!

    :)

    YankeeRay – :lol:

    Of course I’ll still marry you. There are worse things in life than spending time following the Yankees from Stadium to Stadium, right?

  470. Uncle Ellsworth May 5th, 2009 at 6:29 pm

    Let’s win one for Jorgie!

  471. Betsy May 5th, 2009 at 6:29 pm

    It’s going to be awfully hard to survive this division…….The team is going to have to majorly overpay for a mediocre catcher, thereby removing a lot of the depth in the system. They’re probably also eventually going to have to make a trade for a reliever…….They won’t do it, but I almost hope they’d treat this like a rebuilding year – not that it would be feasible. They don’t have any young position players in AAA or even AA, aside from AJ, so what would they rebuild with?

  472. stuart May 5th, 2009 at 6:30 pm

    SJ take a drink and some uppers. Your doom and gloom is unbearable.. I am not living in a fantasy land but give me a break… tread water, stay close, hang in there, give me a break..

    they have a rotation and lineup today of; cc, al, JOBA, PETTITTE, AND Hughes. a lienup of jeter, damon, tex, arod(3 days), cano, swisher, matsui, garnder or melky nad catcher..

    the world is not coming to an end… really man……………

  473. SJ44 May 5th, 2009 at 6:30 pm

    Al,

    You don’t trade Phil Hughes. You bag the year before you trade Phil Hughes.

    Free agent pitching is expensive and doesn’t always work out the way you think. As we are seeing so far this year.

    Hughes, Montero, Austin Jackson and Joba Chamberlain are untouchable. You trade any of them for a catcher, it sure as hell better be Joe Mauer AND someone else.

    You don’t trade the few guys who can actually make this team younger and better in future years.

    They have more than enough to make a deal. They just have to have the will. If they do, a deal can be made.

  474. vin May 5th, 2009 at 6:30 pm

    “Seeing as how Santana wasn’t good enough to pry away Hughes I think logic would dictate otherwise.”

    Santana + the huge contract for Hughes and others.

  475. Frank May 5th, 2009 at 6:31 pm

    Boston went to game 7 of the ALCS last year with Varitek hitting .220

    It can be done… if the other guys step up.

  476. Betsy May 5th, 2009 at 6:32 pm

    Phil shouldn’t be saying stuff like that – he did get squeezed, but even saying something like that sort of absolves himself of any responsibility for his outing. I’m disappointed – and surprised.

  477. dave May 5th, 2009 at 6:32 pm

    stuart,

    It doesnt matter at all whether you believe me or not or whether you are unsure of what cash should have done at this point because it is months later already. Point is, I WAS RIGHT. The pen does need more help. it is not as good as last season. Maybe you think it would take some kind of genius or psychic to predict this would happen and I just happened to think that this had the potential to be a problem for us. You act like the pen was not going to get injured this year at all and that our “power arms” were all proven guys with a few solid years as relievers.

    These guys were all basically pitching for their first times in the majors. It was luck more than anything that the pen did so well last year. And there was a toooon of walks and base runners witih the pen last year but they managed to get out of jams. And marte has not proven A THING in NY – NOTHING. I dont really think you can slate him as our set up man before he has even pitched well here. Whether he is here for a full year or not, it was unclear and is unclear of how good that year will actually be. Bruney and Mo was what we had to rely on with the chance that melancon would become a phenom. Outside of that, nothing was proven at all. And thats what I kept saying and guess what? I WAS RIGHT. So I dont know how in the world you are still arguing that the pen should have been good when it is clear it is in real bad shape right now. Your argument is just ridiculous. i am not even sure what your point even is except to act like a two year old with your get a clue comment. If you bothered to look at molina’s splits and every catcher from the start of the off season, you would see that a couple of those signings may have worked out for us. It would have been better than molina and ummm NOBODY once again this season. Now, we can trade for a has been like a pudge type or trade high level talent for a marginal catcher. GREAT.

  478. Joe from Long Island May 5th, 2009 at 6:33 pm

    SJ, I think we’re on the same page.

    Posada is going to be the DH more often next year, no matter how he likes it; I don’t see Matsui coming back because they have to accomodate Posada’s contract. What happened last night and today just speeds up the timeline for getting his replacement. (Even if Montero is the real deal, he’s a couple or three years away from the bigs.)

    And it’s not going to be easy for Cash to do this without getting the team raped. It’s not easy for any GM, I think. But if the team plays well, then the pressure will lessen, and the chance of a reasonable or good deal for a catcher will improve.

  479. Fran May 5th, 2009 at 6:33 pm

    Good news on Alex. And I’m glad that he is not giving the media anything.

    Trisha, just saw your earlier posts. I’ll email you.

  480. ZMAN7777 May 5th, 2009 at 6:34 pm

    Lots of vitriol and speculation today. Let’s just watch and see how things play out. Either they’ll overcome the many challenges and deficiencies or they won’t. If they do, and make the playoffs, great. If they don’t, as SJ44 says, there will be changes and hopefully a new regime will do a better job.

  481. trisha - click to see my bigger and better Opening Day pictures May 5th, 2009 at 6:34 pm

    *this drives me crazy*

    Last night the posts from SJ were not from SJ. I didn’t think so but who knew. After the game someone came on imitating Fran! It wasn’t Fran.

    All I can think, since it wouldn’t make sense otherwise, is it is some Sox trolls writing negative crap about the Yanks so it makes it look like SJ and Fran, for example, have given up on the Yanks. Of course, trolls just love to write polls about how the Red Sox own the Yankees and how we need to emulate the Red Sox way of doing things. (We found out that those were trolls also.)

    I think if we find imposter posts we should just ask Pete to ban the ISP. It’s one thing for people to come on and emote negatively just because they are feeling negative. It’s quite another for people to come on and imitate others in an effort to demean both the person and the Yankees.

    My opinion.

  482. Joe from Long Island May 5th, 2009 at 6:35 pm

    And don’t think Theo isn’t looking at this and wondering when something will happen to Varitek. They saw life without Varitek two years ago and didn’t like it. That’s why they were desperate to get a deal done last winter. I wouldn’t be surprised if Theo tries to prevent any deal Cash tries, if not steal the player for himself.

  483. Outlawz May 5th, 2009 at 6:35 pm

    Kim says that Cervelli will be playing often because Molina isin’t going to play 7 days in a row

    Hope he is ready. Hope Girardi doesn’t use him with AJ… that would be a disaster.

  484. stuart May 5th, 2009 at 6:35 pm

    1 less run scored then the sux with no 3B, very limited production from 1B. therefore they lose Jorge and replace him with the equivalent of the catching version of ransom but get back arod and they are worse of then they were!!!!!!

    will melky’s production lessen? Sure but Texiera is hitting 195, he is a top 15 player in the game………….

    newsflash Jorge hits very well for a catcher but he is not arod… molina must hit 9th……

    again the doom and gloom is comical…..

  485. Clint May 5th, 2009 at 6:36 pm

    Betsy – Francessa wasn’t happy with those comments by Hughes today either. Said he shouldn’t “whine”.

  486. right center gap in NY May 5th, 2009 at 6:36 pm

    “I have no idea what to write. I feel good”…ha ha ha-just a joke Yankee fans.

    Seriously, I am fine with what A-Rod said to reporters today. Anything can happen between now and Friday. If A-Rod goes on the record claiming he is returning Friday and for whatever reason does NOT, he will be blamed or his desire questioned. 1 day at a time is the best way to go about this return.

  487. Just another handle. May 5th, 2009 at 6:36 pm

    Rays 6-3 winners over the O’s.

  488. SJ44 May 5th, 2009 at 6:36 pm

    Stuart,

    They are last in the league in pitching right now. Names are great. Production is better.

    If they produce, great. But, as we have seen often, guys need time to adjust to NY and their performances vary because of that.

    Look at the guys on the DL. How do they not tread water?

    The starters have been shaky. The bullpen is a mess and now no Posada and Arod is coming off major surgery.

    It ain’t pretty so yes, treading water for the next couple of months, stay close and see how it shakes out after that is not a bad way to go.

    If they do better? Terrific.

    Realistically, I think everybody with the Yankees would sign up tomorrow for that goal and be very happy if that’s where they stood on July 4, given all the issues currently surrounding the team. Especially if everybody is healthy, and stays that way, from the 4th of July through the end of the season.

  489. BX 44 May 5th, 2009 at 6:37 pm

    Why isin’t John Rodriquez here?

  490. dave May 5th, 2009 at 6:37 pm

    And none of those teams mentioned above has a 37 year old catcher coming off a major injury. When you have that, You pay attention to who the backup catcher is.

  491. vin May 5th, 2009 at 6:38 pm

    “Boston went to game 7 of the ALCS last year with Varitek hitting .220

    It can be done… if the other guys step up.”

    Agreed. But I have to say, as much as I hate Varitek, he is one hell of a catcher – from a field general point of view. He doesn’t have the big arm, or block every pitch, but he seems to have such a good idea of what is going on at every moment. The way he calls pitches without putting fingers down, the way he glances up to the batter when he does put down fingers. Posada will have had the better career when all is said and done, but in a parallel universe, having Varitek as the catcher wouldn’t have been so bad.

  492. PaulyDaGoat May 5th, 2009 at 6:38 pm

    First of all, Posada is not the most important player on the team. Secondly, Mr No Smiles was hardly tearing it up and whines and complains when he is taken out or doesn’t play.

    I would think the team would play a little looser without this dude up in people’s faces.

    The biggest problem with this organization is they dont have the guts to tell some of the fan favorties to take a hike on the downside of their careers. It has cost them with Posada, its looking like Mo is starting to come down, and when Jetes hits free angency I hope they dont sign him to some stupid deal for a long time.
    The Sox are cold blooded when it comes to that and it has helped them get rid of Damon, Manny, and the rest of the idiots just in time.

  493. Matt May 5th, 2009 at 6:39 pm

    sal fasano anyone?

  494. stuart May 5th, 2009 at 6:39 pm

    yeah Dave it was luck for the pen last year. it is lucky that melancon has been unhittable in the minors and coke and robertson had sick #’s last year in the minors..afterall minor league #’s never translate to the majors that is why no one cares about the statistics!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    It is all luck……..You are really a clown so just stop the monday morning bullsh-t…

    they had the 5th best pen ERA last year with many power(strikeout) arms everyone knew they would have the worst pen this year it was obvious…………………

  495. ray (sox fan) May 5th, 2009 at 6:39 pm

    trisha,
    We have certainly had our differences of opinion over some things, but I do agree with you wholeheartedly that people who impersonate such regulars as SJ, Fran, or anyone else that has an established handle should be banned from the blog.

  496. SJ44 May 5th, 2009 at 6:40 pm

    Once the game starts, I won’t be on the game threads.

    If someone posts as me, it ain’t me.

    Enjoy the evening folks and let’s hope for a win.

  497. CB May 5th, 2009 at 6:40 pm

    Much of the next several weeks will be absorbed in discussions around trading for a catcher.

    So here’s one way of looking at what they should give up in a trade.

    Right now Posada was off to a fantastic start. Very similar to what he was doing in 2007 (which is part of why the argument that his contract was a waste is misguided – his rates of production are fantastic…).

    At his current pace Posada would be worth around 6 additional wins compared to playing Jose Molina the entire season (this assumes Molina is a replacement level catching bat – which he basically is – though he could actually be worse than replacement)

    6 wins. That’s enormous.

    Now in the time he’s played he’s generated around 1 additional marginal win already.

    So if in theory he played the whole season he would create by himself 5 additional wins at this current pace.

    Now it’s unlkely he’d keep playing at this level. His projection for the season before it started was probably closer to a total 4-5 win player for the season depending on how many at bats he got.

    So let’s assume Posada was going to have a very good season and be a 5 win player – kind of what he was like in 2006.

    If he’s out 2 months the yankees will lose 1.6 wins. Let’s even say that Posada would be a 6 win player that he’d have an outstanding season. Then they’d lose 2 wins. So let’s call his loss over a 2 month period 1.5-2 wins compared to molina.

    Andy catcher you are going to trade for now may have at most the ability to be .5-1 win better than Molina. And even that I doubt. It might be closer to .25-.5.

    So upgrading from Molina to a catcher you trade for could in theory make up no more than one additional win and leave you net -1 win compared to posada.

    These are all top of my head kind of estimates so I could be off but I don’t think it’ll be that far off given it’s a two month stretch.

    So the question is how much are you willing to trade for 0.5 to 1 win?

    That’s the question. In a tight division 0.5-1 win is substanstial. But on the whole it’s tough to know how to value that because like last year when they got Pudge the catcher you trade for could easily be awful.

  498. Betsy May 5th, 2009 at 6:40 pm

    Clint, it does sound like whining – and I’m very surprised. It just doesn’t sound like Phil….

  499. randy l. May 5th, 2009 at 6:41 pm

    i don’t think today was a negative day at all on the blog. i think there’s just a realization that something is wrong with this team.

    posada being out for an extended time combined with another loss to the red sox is the obvious trigger.

    there was similar sentiment last week before hughes pitched his excellent game against detroit.

    if joba shuts down the red sox, people will relax and feel better, but should they?
    the underlying problems are still there. the question is how does this yankee team ever get running on all it’s cylinders.

    as pete says, almost 40 % of yankee core players are out. the yankees have to figure out a way to not lose so many players. a case can be made that arod, wang, and posada ‘s injuries could have been handled in a way that they would not have missed so much time.

    no matter what happens with the won/loss record i hope this realization sticks in people’s minds that the yankees have to do a better job with injuries. just being like any other team in injury prevention isn’t enough.

  500. John May 5th, 2009 at 6:41 pm

    I haven’t checked in with the “comments section” in a couple weeks. Is it just the Red Sox series, or has the quality of comments completely deteriorated? It’s amazing that some people can make something as important as free speech look like a bad idea.

  501. dave May 5th, 2009 at 6:41 pm

    Stuart what is comical is your argument that with the type of pen the yanks had last season, the pen should be good right now and completely disregarding the little fact that IT IS NOT. I dont even understand how that is an argument. You are just proving me right using all the lame excuses people used in january to tell me why the yanks dont need bullpen help when everyone who is paying attention realizes that that is exactly what they need right now. That and a decent backup catcher – both of which could have been looked for in january. Both of which I was calling cash to look for in january. So how is that being whiny. I was correct. wE did need those two things because we need that now

  502. PepperHead May 5th, 2009 at 6:44 pm

    New here, enjoy reading the posts.

    A few points:

    1. Every calm down, if I were to tell you at the beginning of the year the Yankees, would be 1 game over .500, with out A-Rod, Wang 0-3 with an era over 33 (combined pitching staff ERA over 6.00) and Tex batting .182, No Nady, and Mo looking human, you would take it.
    2. Boston is what 16-10 with an 11 game winning streak so far this season. Lowell wont last the season, Ortiz looks old, Nick Green is not going to bat .300 all year, Drew will go down as usual. And if their bullpen is so great why was their closer brought in for a 5 out save.
    3. They have Tek we have Molina, who would you rather have behind the plate?
    4. Stop the Jobe to the pen talk, I want a chance to win every 5 days, not to be used 1 a week in a pivotal 8th inning. Coke can do it. Than if another starter gets hurt we are down to hoping to win 3 out of 5. Anybody remember last year. You can never have have too many starters.

    Thanks

  503. -trisha - click to see my bigger and better Opening Day pictures May 5th, 2009 at 6:44 pm

    Betsy, hold. In fairness to Phil, that was just a cut. I would have to believe the question was posed to him and he didn’t just come out and talk about it. Also, he did go on to take responsibility and say he didn’t have his best stuff. I just selected that part of it because I’m still annoyed about it. But he definitely wasn’t blaming his entire outing on bad calls.

  504. vin May 5th, 2009 at 6:46 pm

    “I haven’t checked in with the “comments section” in a couple weeks. Is it just the Red Sox series, or has the quality of comments completely deteriorated? ”

    You just need to know who’s posts to read.

  505. Fran May 5th, 2009 at 6:46 pm

    Trisha, thanks for that. I may be frustrated with the team sometimes, but I have not given up!

  506. CaptainsCorner May 5th, 2009 at 6:46 pm

    It sounds like from Girardi’s comments that the return date for Arod is not Friday. Not that it matters, if he needs the 2 or 3 extra days then let him take it. It sounds like they want him to field a couple of more balls.

  507. DC 212 May 5th, 2009 at 6:47 pm

    Remember, Hughes and Joba are going to go through growing pains and we’re going to have to live with that. They’ll have 7 IP, 1 ER games and 4 IP, 6 ER games. They’ll probably go 5-6 innings every time too.

    Pettitte at this stage of his career is a #5 starter.

    Burnett has a 3.81 career ERA and been mediocrity in his career and injury prone.

    CC is good, but he may be one of those guys who needs a year to adjust to NY and may not pitch as well as track record suggests.

    Those simply saying the rotation is a lock to get better need to look at it more carefully. As SJ has said… this rotation has POTENTIAL. Can’t count the new guys as sure things, their first year in NY.

  508. SJ44 May 5th, 2009 at 6:47 pm

    CB,

    Its not even about Molina per se. When people talk about the backup catcher on other teams, they aren’t taking into effect what happens if the backup AND the third string catcher, have to catch for 2 months?

    That KILLS a team. When you add what Posada brings to the table, its even worse for the Yankees.

    Unless of course people forget what happened to the team last year when he went down.

    Its the worst possible injury they could have and they will have to go get a catcher. If not, they better pray he’s a fast healer because its highly doubtful, especially given the other problems/injuries on the team, they can survive 2 months with Molina and Cervelli behind the plate.

  509. stuart May 5th, 2009 at 6:47 pm

    really SJ.. joba, cc, Aj and the rest of there power arms need time to adjust!!!!!!!!!

    Cool then give the Yanks some money back during your adjustment period..

    I am not looking for Koufax numbers but how about CC and AJ having a 3.50 era???

    Arod is back in 3 days not 3 months, nady… Swisher has been a godsend….Bruney(that hurts) but he should be back soon and Melancon can get the job done.. he has the makeup and the stuff from what I have been reading and he did not just do well in the minors he toyed with them like they were little kids…

    i am not giving the pitchers the usual adjustment BS pass, CC, AJ, hughes(he can do it), Joba, etc need to pick it up.

    Wang if what I read is true and he had a physical issues he should be fixed soon and then he should contribute.. the guy won 19 games twice and is 28 years old..

    this team has the talent to win it all….they are not old as peoiple say, etc…pena will be a effective utility guy for this year. he is fast and a great fielder…they have not had a good utility guy in 5 yrs. if nady comes back then they have an extra OF, that is a good problem. then they can use gardner as a pinch runner if he does not produce at the plate.. this team is talented injuries or not…………..

  510. kasey May 5th, 2009 at 6:48 pm

    so, let’s see. the yankees 37-year-old catcher is hurt.

    the big money free agents haven’t yet delivered much of anything (with the exception of burnett’s first two outings).

    the bullpen is a disaster, and that’s being generous.

    the team consistently looks old, slow, and, if we’re being honest, scared.

    the only surprising thing? the fact that people are surprised by any of this.

    maybe they’ll tread water and make a run after july 4. or maybe next year will be better. whatever. at some point, they’ll win it all again. but probably not this year.

    enjoy the games!

  511. Doreen May 5th, 2009 at 6:48 pm

    A thought.

    People talk about the bullpen “learning their roles.” And Phil Coke talked about it in this weekend’s newspapers.

    How about this: The role of a relief pitcher is to come into the game at whatever point he is called upon and stop the other team dead in their tracks. His role is to throw strikes, to not let runners on base gratuitously and to not allow inherited runners to score.

    That is their role.

    It does not matter, or it should not matter, at what precise point in the ballgame a reliever is called upon.

    Only exception: There may be pitchers who are better suited to dealing with situations where there are runners on base, and pitchers who should only come in when there is no one on base. (Although I would argue that all of them need to learn how to come into a game with runners on base.)

    Am I wrong?

  512. Bad Scooter May 5th, 2009 at 6:48 pm

    I hope Joba pitches like he did in Detroit last week. From about the 3rd inning on he was a different pitcher, working quickly and attacking the hitters. Hopefully he carries that into this game.

  513. Joe May 5th, 2009 at 6:48 pm

    Here is an idea for the bullpen. The following line is the AA/AAA stats for a guy that was on the Yankees 40 man roster last year, ended the year in the big leagues with the Padres, and is in AAA this year. Ladies and gentleman, Scott Patterson.

    2.14 ERA 163 IP 118 H 36 BB 190 K

    Included in these numbers is a stretch where he was spitching with Pnemonia, which ultimately put him in a hospital bed for a couple weeks. I watched him throw, he could help them right now, they are familiar with him, and he wouldn’t cost much to get him back from the Padres.

  514. Betsy May 5th, 2009 at 6:50 pm

    Apparently per Kim, Cervelli is going to catch a lot. I just hope Molina catches for most of the next week – so that Cervelli can at least get to know these guys in warmups. It’s terrible situation to be in -Cervelli learning these guys on the fly

  515. H-Town May 5th, 2009 at 6:51 pm

    You could have seen Veras, Edwar, Marte implosions coming from a mile away

    All of us this spring were worried about them. Most here didn’t even want Veras or Edwar to make the team and wanted to trade them.

    Yet those 3, along with Bruney, were supposed to be the keys to our pen. Veras and Edwar had 2 good months really and Cashman put too much faith in them

  516. randy l. May 5th, 2009 at 6:51 pm

    “Who, if not Posada, was going to DH last night?”

    joe -
    he shouldn’t have played.
    hamstrings are serious injuries. posada will likely have scar tissue that he’ll have to pay attention to the rest of his career. hamstrings get chronic in a heartbeat.

    the yankees just plain suck in injury minimization. you could give cashman an all star team and he’d have a third of it disabled within three months.

  517. dave May 5th, 2009 at 6:51 pm

    Stuart again your argument doesnt make ANY SENSE at all. You are telling me I wasnt right in january to think they needed more help but here it is may, and they desperately need more help in the pen. I said it 100s of times in january. This is not some sort of hindsight of monday morning quarterbacking or whatever you call it. This is how i felt all along. That we needed a little more experience. Almost every one was pitching their first major league season out of the pen minus a a few guys. And bullpen arms are the most volatile aspect of the game. The dominant arms change almost every year outside of the closers for the most part. Very few relievers are consistent year in and year out. And you thought we had all of them coming up from the farm system. I agree that melancon will be great – his numbers were not lucky. He has a world of talent. But guys like veras, edwar, albadejo, robertson, coke, etc. all succeeding last year was not just because they are all talented. It was because girardi used them very well and we were lucky that there was always a few of them to rely upon at any given time throughout last season. They arent all going on to become eighth inning guys.

    Bruney is obviously a beast and melancon will be amazing but outside of that, who knows what we have with anyone? I think marte may be able to do decently here but then, again he may not. And i think veras and edwar should both be in scranton right now as should albadejo. All three of them are doing worse than awful. Coke and aceves may be able to get us through with melancon until bruney and hopefully a decent marte come back but i really think adding another solid arm would have helped us tremendously. Continue to make your nonsensical argument back i guess.

  518. CB May 5th, 2009 at 6:52 pm

    “they aren’t taking into effect what happens if the backup AND the third string catcher, have to catch for 2 months?”

    SJ,

    The issue there is that Molina is such a horrific offensive player that it would actually be difficult for the backup catcher to be that much worse than Molina’s bat.

    At the most the difference between the in house third string catcher and molina will be .25.

    So not making a trade could cost them 1-1.25 wins.

    Believe me – in this division that is substantial.

    I’m just trying to make explicit the trade offs they face in acquiring another catcher.

    The fundamental problem with making a trade is that while the new player they acquire might be better than Molina at bat he will still be an awful offensive player.

    That’s the fundamental issue. They are not going to get a good catcher in season.

  519. T-Dot May 5th, 2009 at 6:53 pm

    Yeah… because there has never been a reliever who dominated the minors and was less than impressive in the majors

    Oh wait…

    Melancon is not the 2nd coming folks. He has a lot of potential, that’s it. He is not the savior.

  520. Betsy May 5th, 2009 at 6:54 pm

    Doreen, I posted a link to that article a day or so ago. Coke’s comments infuriated me…..nice death watch the pen has going on waiting for the phone to ring.

    Glad to see Alex handling questions as he has – the media should get nothing from him.

    Also glad to see Sanchez re-signed……..we need all the arms we can get

  521. Bad Scooter May 5th, 2009 at 6:54 pm

    Again, overreaction to the Posada injury. Huge loss, not end of the season though. Remember that 25% of the games last year were started by Rasner, Ponson and Geise. Throw in Hughes and Kennedy being awful. 2009 does not equal 2008.

  522. -trisha - click to see my bigger and better Opening Day pictures May 5th, 2009 at 6:55 pm

    Fran, I didn’t think it sounded at all like you but I didn’t want to say anything in case you were just blowing off steam! I also should have realized due the hour that you probably weren’t going to be absent from the whole game and then show up when it was over!

  523. Erik Sec. 309 May 5th, 2009 at 6:55 pm

    TeixeraMVP – True, ARod is better, but we can’t expect to start great right out of the gate. By the time ARod starts getting his stride back, Jorge will return. That is a good 2-3 weeks of scary times.

  524. Nick May 5th, 2009 at 6:57 pm

    Bottom line.. a $200 million dollar team should not put the bullpen in the hands of Veras, Edwar, Robertson, Albaladejo, Melancon, Coke etc.

    He could have had Saito, Juan Cruz, or traded for someone. He put way too much faith in guys with spotty track records like Veras.

  525. Uncle Ellsworth May 5th, 2009 at 6:57 pm

    bmass
    time to go – see YA!

  526. Trevor May 5th, 2009 at 6:57 pm

    Even Flarity thinks Melancon should be pitching more.

  527. Buddy Biancalana May 5th, 2009 at 6:59 pm

    Sal Fasano, where are you & that ‘stache?

  528. Spiced Ham May 5th, 2009 at 6:59 pm

    *Buckles seat belt*

  529. Bret the Hitman May 5th, 2009 at 7:00 pm

    By calling up Aceves to be the long reliever for Hughes if needed, I wonder if the Yankees are considering it as a possible strategy when Wang returns.

    Using Aceves in Hughes starts would save the bullpen.

    Do we really lost all that much by starting Hughes-Aceves with Joba dominating in the bullpen vs. using Joba as a starter alone and suffering with a terrible bullpen?

    I don’t think I can stomach watching Veras, Edwar and Albaladejo all year long.

    I’d rather have Hughes + a bullpen than Joba and no pen at all.

  530. CG May 5th, 2009 at 7:00 pm

    What happens when they go get another catcher? The bench will still be lacking versatility.

    When Posada comes back, you’ll have two back-up catchers, Matsui (who can’t play the field) and who? Berroa? Ransom?

    This team really needs an actual utility guy. Maybe Pena could fill that role . . . at least with the glove.

    Man would they kill for a guy like DeRosa.

  531. Fran May 5th, 2009 at 7:00 pm

    Trisha, thanks again. The number of imposters on here is frustrating. I am going to watch the game at my neighbor’s apartment, so any posts with my name are not me!

  532. Doreen May 5th, 2009 at 7:00 pm

    Betsy-

    I did read that link. I always try to give the benefit of the doubt and while it didn’t sound very good, it also sounded like he was at least saying they had to change their attitude.

    For what it’s worth, right? :)

  533. S.A.--It's a marathon, not a sprint. Calm down. May 5th, 2009 at 7:01 pm

    Maybe I’m wrong, but I think once a fan is in the park, they should have enough common sense not to leave unless you hear an announcement. Trusting the word of some minimum-wage kid is not the best idea.

    ==============================

    You would think that would be the case, but sadly it’s not. Hopefully the yankees and their fans don’t run into another situation like last night again. Also, there really does need to be one voice coming from the Yankees providing frequent updates for the fans. More announcements and posting more scoreboard updates during delays is a good way to go.

  534. Uncle Ellsworth May 5th, 2009 at 7:01 pm

    Wow I think I just wished that Troll to the cornfield.

    or Pete banned him I like cornfieled better and not the nice “field of dreams” cornfield – I’m talking “children of the corn” cornfield

  535. Alex May 5th, 2009 at 7:01 pm

    Melancon IS the savior.

    I know people want to temper the expectations, but Melancon is so good.

    He isin’t a blow you away pitcher, he gets you to hit groundballs and works quick. Good control.

    He is a stud and will dominate once he gets regular work in. He doesn’t need to be “brought along”, he just needs to pitch.

  536. right center gap in NY May 5th, 2009 at 7:02 pm

    let’s play some ball already!

    c’mon Joba-be aggressive, throw hard and keep the hitters off-balance.
    throw inside as often as you think you need to.

  537. dave May 5th, 2009 at 7:03 pm

    And stuart if you dont think I was right when i thought that cash should get a more established relief pitcher in the pen, why dont you take a look at the numbers of all our power arms and most of the guys that formed one of the best pens in baseball last year.

    You have albadejo with an era over 7 and veras with an era over 8 and 9 walks in 12 innings. Good stuff i KNOWWW. And then there is that dominant edwar with a fantastic 11 walks in 10 innings. Wow these guys are really good you were right all along stuart. My favorite is demaso your best friend – he is going to be here for a whole year marte with a whopping era over 15.

    Do we even want him for the year at this point? Maybe the pirates have a refund policy. Coke is basically the only arm out of the pen that is currently healthy, has been in the pen for most of the season and has not gotten crushed yet. Melancon and aceves have done well so far but in less than 5 innings each only. Robertson also did pretty bad in his brief stint. So why do i say maybe they were lucky? Look at these atrocious stats so far. Edwar and veras dont even look like they belong in AAA right now nevermind the majors. So that is that.

  538. -trisha - click to see my bigger and better Opening Day pictures May 5th, 2009 at 7:03 pm

    Talk to you later Fran!

    :)

  539. Pat M May 5th, 2009 at 7:03 pm

    CB, Your numbers don’t portray a team that’s in real trouble….Betsy, I think there was much more to the Hughes dialog that led to that comment…Maybe a leading question about what everybody saw last night, he was not getting the close call on sone critaical ab’s…..I just see the things not as bad as some….It’s gradually coming around…Hell they’ve won 4 of 6..Tonight is key though on several fronts…

  540. -trisha - click to see my bigger and better Opening Day pictures May 5th, 2009 at 7:05 pm

    Just what the doctor ordered on a cold, damp, dreary night. Banishment to NESN. Oh boy it’s been quite a day!

  541. Jeff NJ May 5th, 2009 at 7:05 pm

    Peter, you’re kidding about the injury stemming from an AJ pitch right?

  542. vin May 5th, 2009 at 7:06 pm

    “What happens when they go get another catcher? The bench will still be lacking versatility. ”

    Not necessarily… if the acquired catcher is legimitely useful, then maybe they go with 3 catchers for awhile. That would give Girardi the option to DH Posada and have Matsui off the bench, and vice versa. It would help keep guys fresh. Of course that only works if there are 12 pitchers.

  543. Bret the Hitman May 5th, 2009 at 7:06 pm

    Hughes looked fine last night. He WAS getting squeezed. But he needs to throw more obvious strikes instead of trying to nibble. He’s still too soft.

  544. CB May 5th, 2009 at 7:06 pm

    “Your numbers don’t portray a team that’s in real trouble…”

    Losing Posada for 2 months is terrible – but it’s nothing compared to losing him for the entire season as they did last year.

    Losing 1 win by replacing Posada with Molina will hurt. That’s a significant loss but it’s not catastrophic. That’s all amplified in the AL East, however.

    It’s a tough challenge. They could easily miss the playoffs by one win.

  545. CaptainsCorner May 5th, 2009 at 7:07 pm

    I can’t believe that Ramirez and Veras are still on this team. Ramirez walked 2 batters yesterday and the only out he got was captain finished. I believe a pitcher from single A could of done that performance. Too bad there is no one in AAA to replace 1 of them with.

  546. dave May 5th, 2009 at 7:07 pm

    alex

    yea, i agree. Now, the only problem is that we need to win with melancon and Mo as our only real bullpen options and i guess coke. Thas slim pickings. I hope joba goes at least seven tonight or the pen is going to blow it for him most likely.

  547. Uncle Ellsworth May 5th, 2009 at 7:08 pm

    qoute of the day:
    “Tomorrow is the most important thing in life. Comes into us at midnight very clean. It’s perfect when it arrives and it puts itself in our hands. It hopes we’ve learned something from yesterday.”

  548. PJH® May 5th, 2009 at 7:09 pm

    I hope all the Jose Molina apologists are happy with him being the starter for the next 3 weeks.

  549. Drew May 5th, 2009 at 7:09 pm

    First pitch and there’s already two ass hats on their phones behind home plate.

  550. StawthatStirs - Texiera pops out to.... May 5th, 2009 at 7:10 pm

    Joba needs to own the inside of the plate.. get them moving their feet..

  551. CaptainsCorner May 5th, 2009 at 7:10 pm

    Here we go slap crap on base. Do the Yankee pitcher ever have a 1,2,3 inning??

  552. Paulie May 5th, 2009 at 7:11 pm

    great start.

  553. randy l. May 5th, 2009 at 7:11 pm

    the empty stands are an embarrassment.

    that would never happen in fenway for a yankee red sox game.

  554. Paulie May 5th, 2009 at 7:12 pm

    single, stolen base and error by the Captain. Gonna be one of those days.

  555. Benny Blanco May 5th, 2009 at 7:12 pm

    What in the world is going on already?…and jete looked horrible on that play.

  556. CaptainsCorner May 5th, 2009 at 7:12 pm

    Umm…Not going to say anything about range…

  557. Spiced Ham May 5th, 2009 at 7:12 pm

    Another day, another loss upcoming. Good grief

  558. Dan May 5th, 2009 at 7:12 pm

    Joba looking very hittable. Gameday has his fastball sitting 89-90 and his slider 83. He’s great when the FB is 95-96 and the slider is 87-89.

  559. S.A.--It's a marathon, not a sprint. Calm down. May 5th, 2009 at 7:12 pm

    not the best start

  560. Pat M May 5th, 2009 at 7:12 pm

    CB, They improved dramatically over the winter….Not really manifesting itself right now but it will…They’ll be fine…

  561. Donnie May 5th, 2009 at 7:13 pm

    Oh, for eff’s sake, are you serious? Looks like I’m going to be playing a lot of Xbox tonight.

  562. Boston Dave May 5th, 2009 at 7:13 pm

    when is the last time Jeter got dirty on a groundball?

    he needs to lay out once in a while.

  563. Tex's friend (Best 5 ever) May 5th, 2009 at 7:14 pm

    looking good at the on-set. We are in the red right?

  564. Benny Blanco May 5th, 2009 at 7:14 pm

    Joba, can you do me a favor and CHALLENGE HITTERS!??

  565. jeet skeet May 5th, 2009 at 7:14 pm

    can jeter be switched to the outfield yet?

  566. dave May 5th, 2009 at 7:14 pm

    is posada out two weeks or two months?? Two weeks, we can deal but two months and cash needs to get on that phone and make up for his stupidity of not finding another decent catcher in the off season. Man, how many times can cash make the same mistake before he learns his lesson? Maybe by the time posadas contract is up in three seasons, cash will have it all figured out. 37 year old start catcher, major injury = need good hitting backup. That is why we need a catcher more than all the other teams because it is far more likely posada gets injured throughout the season than most other catchers because he is just getting older and more fragile as the years go by.

  567. ye May 5th, 2009 at 7:14 pm

    awesome, game over already this team is terrible

  568. Paulie May 5th, 2009 at 7:14 pm

    Just what we need…Big Papi to start hitting

  569. CaptainsCorner May 5th, 2009 at 7:14 pm

    Joba looks like he has nothing today…With Hughes and Joba in the rotation they need 2 long relievers…

  570. RS May 5th, 2009 at 7:14 pm

    This is what happens when you get behind on every hitter. The Yankees must seriously be the worst team in the league in first pitch strikes.

  571. ZMAN7777 May 5th, 2009 at 7:14 pm

    Wow, it’s like deja vu all over again.

  572. Benny Blanco May 5th, 2009 at 7:15 pm

    We never get a first pitch strike.

  573. StawthatStirs - Texeira pops out to.... May 5th, 2009 at 7:15 pm

    Of course… more of the same.. pathetic..

  574. Bret the Hitman May 5th, 2009 at 7:15 pm

    I’d rather have Hughes starting and Joba in the pen than Joba starting and a terrible pen.

  575. JoeT 28 in 10 Aceves to the pen!! (SUCCESS!!) May 5th, 2009 at 7:15 pm

    3 batters in and people jumping off the ledge already

  576. Paulie May 5th, 2009 at 7:15 pm

    Jason Bay – the new Yankee killer.

  577. Spiced Ham May 5th, 2009 at 7:15 pm

    Screw this. I am going to do something productive with the rest of my night

  578. Kevin at SHU May 5th, 2009 at 7:15 pm

    Long night coming for us?

  579. Boston Dave May 5th, 2009 at 7:15 pm

    “Joba looks like he has nothing today”

    ——

    I’m as optimistic as they come but he definitely doesn’t look very good over the first 3 batters.

  580. carl May 5th, 2009 at 7:15 pm

    Are you serious?

  581. spark May 5th, 2009 at 7:15 pm

    glad we got a long man. oh, i forgot. he pitched 4 innings last night. so, no. we still have no long man.

  582. JoeT 28 in 10 Aceves to the pen!! (SUCCESS!!) May 5th, 2009 at 7:16 pm

    ok go ahead and jump now

  583. ye May 5th, 2009 at 7:16 pm

    what a joke, joba is pathetic

  584. RS May 5th, 2009 at 7:16 pm

    I saw that coming a mile away.

  585. C May 5th, 2009 at 7:16 pm

    wow

  586. C May 5th, 2009 at 7:16 pm

    Maybe we can volunteer to start every at bat with a 2-0 count, since every one of our pitches seems to start every at bat that way anyway.

  587. Tex's friend (Best 5 ever) May 5th, 2009 at 7:16 pm

    get aceves up again hahahahahaha

  588. Devon May 5th, 2009 at 7:16 pm

    Joba looks horrible

  589. Paulie May 5th, 2009 at 7:16 pm

    told ya

  590. Benny Blanco May 5th, 2009 at 7:16 pm

    THIS is by far the worst thing I have ever seen. WOW

  591. ZMAN7777 May 5th, 2009 at 7:16 pm

    You’ve got to be joking. Friggin pathetic.

  592. Blackdragon905 May 5th, 2009 at 7:16 pm

    can joba throw a damn strike and get ahead of a hitter for god’s sake!!!!!!

  593. CaptainsCorner May 5th, 2009 at 7:16 pm

    Let me guess another 90 mph fastball from Joba? Meatball coming up right down broadway…

  594. JoeT 28 in 10 Aceves to the pen!! (SUCCESS!!) May 5th, 2009 at 7:17 pm

    I could’ve hit that pitch

  595. Devon May 5th, 2009 at 7:17 pm

    Joba has horrible control. What the heck is wrong

  596. Ryan (Im just waiting till the shine wears off) May 5th, 2009 at 7:17 pm

    This whole team is bullcrap

  597. Benny Blanco May 5th, 2009 at 7:17 pm

    This is pitiful…and there’s no outs.

  598. Todd May 5th, 2009 at 7:17 pm

    This team plain stinks

  599. C May 5th, 2009 at 7:17 pm

    WOW JASON BAY OWNS US

  600. randy l. May 5th, 2009 at 7:17 pm

    if joba chamberlain can’t throw higher than 91mph he’s my guess for the next yankee on the disabled list.

  601. Nick in SF May 5th, 2009 at 7:17 pm

    Is Molina calling the game Jorge-style in tribute? :(

    We have to take it out on Beckett!

    *MUST* beat up on Beckett!

  602. Boston Dave May 5th, 2009 at 7:17 pm

    91mph straight fastball right in the wheelhouse

  603. Vince May 5th, 2009 at 7:17 pm

    I’m not going to say I told you so, but really…

    Joba needs to be in the pen. Plain and simple.

  604. spark May 5th, 2009 at 7:17 pm

    very wang-like start for joba.

  605. vin May 5th, 2009 at 7:17 pm

    Ugh

  606. Donnie May 5th, 2009 at 7:17 pm

    Honestly, who didn’t see that coming?

    I swear to God, why do they keep pitching to Bay? Someone, anyone, for the love of Christ, tell me that.

  607. Tex's friend (Best 5 ever) May 5th, 2009 at 7:17 pm

    for all you chill bloggers, how many losses do we need against boston before we shouldnt just chill out anymore? oh it’s just 4-0 with no outs in the 1st. no big deal. shut up!

  608. abernste May 5th, 2009 at 7:17 pm

    Is it misguided to put any of this on Dave Eiland?

  609. ZMAN7777 May 5th, 2009 at 7:17 pm

    Say what you will, they know they own us.

  610. S.A.--It's a marathon, not a sprint. Calm down. May 5th, 2009 at 7:18 pm

    Um

    :shock:

    can we get an out

  611. Mike in Harrisburg May 5th, 2009 at 7:18 pm

    Hank needs to start mixing things up. Injuries or not this team has to be put on notice.

  612. RS May 5th, 2009 at 7:18 pm

    What are the chances that Beckett has another awful start against the Yankees tonight? Unfortunatly, I’m thinking not very likely.

  613. Bad Scooter May 5th, 2009 at 7:18 pm

    What’s up with his velo? No command either. Not a good combo.

  614. Rishi May 5th, 2009 at 7:18 pm

    unbelievable – can you at least record an out before putting this game out of reach?

    and can someone please do something about Bay – he is killing us

  615. Paulie May 5th, 2009 at 7:18 pm

    Soon the “Joba talk” will be of him going to Tampa as oppose to going to the bullpen. This is not panning well.

  616. rconn23 May 5th, 2009 at 7:18 pm

    Game over. Chamberlain can’t get anyone out throwing 84-89 mph.

    The nightmarish season continues. Putting Joba in the pen isn’t going to suddenly make him throw 100 mph again.

  617. MikeKU May 5th, 2009 at 7:18 pm

    Boston gets Jason Bay. Yankees get Xaiver Nady. Look how that deal worked out. Theo owns Cashman. Bottom line. Yankees look overmatched EVERY time they played Boston. Even when they win.

  618. Trevor May 5th, 2009 at 7:18 pm

    I have nothing to say…

  619. vblack May 5th, 2009 at 7:18 pm

    OUCH
    No movement, no velocity.

  620. -trisha - click to see my bigger and better Opening Day pictures May 5th, 2009 at 7:18 pm

    What?????????????

    What?

    I just tuned in. Oh my God.

  621. EvoLuTioN May 5th, 2009 at 7:18 pm

    joba wont even make it out of the first inning, call up ian kennedy

  622. pc69 May 5th, 2009 at 7:18 pm

    Well the upside to this is that not having Posada isn’t going to mean much tonight.

  623. Benny Blanco May 5th, 2009 at 7:18 pm

    Beckett will have 15K’s tonight. We are getting bullied right in our own building. The wheels are falling off at an unprecented rate. OMG

  624. ZMAN7777 May 5th, 2009 at 7:19 pm

    20 pitches to record zero outs

  625. Joe Monte May 5th, 2009 at 7:19 pm

    Just curious, does anybody know if Cashman had the opportunity to choose between Bay or Nady last summer?

  626. Ace May 5th, 2009 at 7:19 pm

    Ummm. To all the folks who disagreed with my Manny/Bay comparison last night.

    Enough said.

  627. Drew May 5th, 2009 at 7:19 pm

    I didn’t think Yankee fans knew how to cheer..

  628. EvoLuTioN May 5th, 2009 at 7:19 pm

    i called that bomb on another forum im on :lol:

  629. Terry from NH May 5th, 2009 at 7:19 pm

    Come on. 5 straight hits, no freakin out and 4-0.. I feel bad for the people who pay lots of cash to see this pathetic azz team.. i’m gonna puke!

  630. StawthatStirs - Texeira pops out to.... May 5th, 2009 at 7:19 pm

    Joba is no starter… this team is not going to even smell the playoffs.. and what’s worse, there’s no more Boss to be so embarrased by this that he’d blow his lid and shake things up… pathetic..

  631. Abe's Odd World May 5th, 2009 at 7:20 pm

    Someone tell me when Batting Practice is over and the game starts…

  632. Boston Dave May 5th, 2009 at 7:20 pm

    “Putting Joba in the pen isn’t going to suddenly make him throw 100 mph again.”

    —–

    exactly.

    if his velocity is really down this much, there has to be something wrong (mentally or physically)

    they need to fix that first. moving him to the pen doesn’t fix anything.

  633. vin May 5th, 2009 at 7:20 pm

    Just how safe is Eiland’s job? Someone’s head may need to roll if this keeps up much longer.

  634. rconn23 May 5th, 2009 at 7:20 pm

    Can’t expect Beckett to give up 8 again. Put this game in the books. It’s over.

    I can’t believe his velocity is down so much. There’s only so many setbacks this team can handle.

  635. ZMAN7777 May 5th, 2009 at 7:20 pm

    Typical Joba — can’t get ahead of the hitters and now appears to be lacking stuff

  636. EvoLuTioN May 5th, 2009 at 7:20 pm

    this team is going to go down 1-2-3

    book it.

  637. SJ44 May 5th, 2009 at 7:20 pm

    Well, this one is done.

    A team that needs to readjust it’s goals.

    If they can finish .500, that may be an accomplishment.

    We do know one thing. They can’t beat the Red Sox.

    Find some pitchers a catcher and probably a CF and they can make a run at the WC.

  638. RalphieD May 5th, 2009 at 7:20 pm

    i dont understand..does joba not trust his stuff or something?…we all saw how great he looked after getting that lead in detroit…

  639. RS May 5th, 2009 at 7:21 pm

    If the Red Sox resign Bay, I hope the Yankees drive the price up as high as they can.

  640. Paranoid Android May 5th, 2009 at 7:21 pm

    needs:

    SS w/range
    CF
    C
    Middle Relief

    Jeter has to be taken off SS. It won’t happen until the end of his contract, of course.

  641. tishbi May 5th, 2009 at 7:21 pm

    Why cant Joba be honest like Papelbon and tell his manager that he wants to be in the pen.

    The sox tried to convert papelbon into a starter at one point and papelbon just didnt like it so he demanded that he be put back into the pen.

  642. Boston Dave May 5th, 2009 at 7:21 pm

    “i called that bomb on another forum im on :lol:”

    wow, why dont you go back there then?

    turd

  643. carl May 5th, 2009 at 7:21 pm

    Does he think he can be a starter sitting at 91-92? It’s not gonna happen.

  644. Yankee Trader May 5th, 2009 at 7:21 pm

    “THIS is by far the worst thing I have ever seen. WOW”

    Guess you haven’t been watching much Yankees baseball this season!!!

  645. Abe's Odd World May 5th, 2009 at 7:21 pm

    can someone tell me why joba is throwing 92 MPH fastballs and 83 MPH sliders??

  646. Frank May 5th, 2009 at 7:21 pm

    Zman, hit the nail on the head right there. The Red Sox own the Yankees. They know it, the Yankees know it. Just like everyone knew the opposite for the period of 1996-2003.

  647. Benny Blanco May 5th, 2009 at 7:21 pm

    I hate…I repeat.. I hate Jason Bay. And people were killing me for calling him a yankee killer.

  648. Tex's friend (Best 5 ever) May 5th, 2009 at 7:21 pm

    this team is going to go down 1-2-3

    book it

    and at least 2 Ks?

  649. RayVT May 5th, 2009 at 7:21 pm

    Come back off the Ledge!!

    LOL! The Yankees are not done. They have incredible potential. With some of the walking wounded needing some days off (Damon, Tex, Matsui, Swisher) it amplifies the problem of having 13 pitchers on a 25 man roster. The Yankees needed 3 catchers from the start, but decided to gamble and only go with 2. They needed a long man in the BP but they gambled that even though it was Spring and most pitchers don’t go deep in April, that they didn’t need one. Posada was gimpy with issues, and again they gambled and played him because they didn’t have a bat that could go. (Resting Matsui was the right thing to do, but I guess Berroa could have DH’d.)

    To me it seems like the team structure is askew. I would have had Aceves or Tomko as a long man from the start. Also would have had 3 Catchers. Against all odds, I would have carried only 11 pitchers and would have added a bat (S Duncan like player). A couple of pitchers could go between ML & AAA if necessary to help out even though there is a waiting period for returns to ML. Girardi is in a bit over his head. Hopefully, someone will help him and he will listen. I’m sure there are lots of suggestions, but discernment is hard for a control freak personality.

  650. spark May 5th, 2009 at 7:21 pm

    i kind of expected this. the news about joba’s mother being arrested for selling drugs had to affect him. i know he and his mom supposedly aren’t close but it’s still his mom. he’s only human. he’s had to face questions about it. kind of hard to concentrate i’m sure.

  651. Vince May 5th, 2009 at 7:21 pm

    I highly doubt the Yankees had a pick between Bay or Nady.

  652. Boston Dave May 5th, 2009 at 7:21 pm

    “The sox tried to convert papelbon into a starter at one point and papelbon just didnt like it so he demanded that he be put back into the pen.”

    ———

    who are you? selena roberts?

    do some research before printing that garbage.

  653. Bret the Hitman May 5th, 2009 at 7:22 pm

    Joba to the pen.

  654. ZMAN7777 May 5th, 2009 at 7:22 pm

    By September those plush seats will be going for $25 bucks if this continues.

  655. vblack May 5th, 2009 at 7:22 pm

    I guess we will see just how much fight “these” Yankees have in them tonight.

    It’s gonna be a long one.

  656. right center gap in NY May 5th, 2009 at 7:22 pm

    double-play. way to get out of the inning Joba.

    listen: if he can not throw harder than 91 on a consistent basis, then he is better off in the pen.

    last night did anybody watch the ESPN telecast? orel made a point that Joba seems to be “saving himself” by not throwing hard early in the game. orel said that is the wrong approach. look what happened today: he throw 89 or 91 and i might not be that smart, but that is NOT A POWER PITCHER!!!

  657. EvoLuTioN May 5th, 2009 at 7:22 pm

    tishbi,

    are you serious? LOL joba is the one that asked to be a starter.

  658. dave May 5th, 2009 at 7:22 pm

    THANKS for the comments guys. Now, i dont even have to turn on the game anymore and waste any time. Have fun watching this team SUCK. What the hell is wrong with them seriously?

  659. Rishi May 5th, 2009 at 7:22 pm

    tishbi
    May 5th, 2009 at 7:21 pm
    Why cant Joba be honest like Papelbon and tell his manager that he wants to be in the pen.

    The sox tried to convert papelbon into a starter at one point and papelbon just didnt like it so he demanded that he be put back into the pen.
    __________________________________________________-

    I thought he demanded to be a starter, but his shoulder couldn’t handle the workload

  660. S.A.--It's a marathon, not a sprint. Calm down. May 5th, 2009 at 7:22 pm

    So that was bad. :|

  661. vin May 5th, 2009 at 7:22 pm

    “What?????????????

    What?

    I just tuned in. Oh my God.”

    Trisha, when it rains… it pours. You’re having some day, huh?

  662. Trevor May 5th, 2009 at 7:22 pm

    Same thing in Detroit was throw low nineties FB up there. Until Eiland got on him.

  663. Baseball Fab May 5th, 2009 at 7:22 pm

    We will be fine, Beckett will be outta the game before Joba

  664. PJH® May 5th, 2009 at 7:22 pm

    Joba was throwing 94-96 consistently against Detroit. People make big deals about everything these days.

  665. Pat M May 5th, 2009 at 7:22 pm

    Randy I, After he took the mound with a lead last week in Detroit, it was as if he was a different pitcher….He was humming at 97, aggresive, great slider…..He looks different when starting, more conservative with his energy it seems

  666. EvoLuTioN May 5th, 2009 at 7:23 pm

    beckett is going to look like cy young tonight

  667. S.A.--It's a marathon, not a sprint. Calm down. May 5th, 2009 at 7:23 pm

    23 pitches for the Jobber that inning

  668. Paulie May 5th, 2009 at 7:23 pm

    If I was Giradi, I’d find a way to get thrown out of tonight’s game too. This one has the makings of a drubbing.

  669. Benny Blanco May 5th, 2009 at 7:23 pm

    Happy bday beckett! your team just gave you a four run lead

  670. MikeKU May 5th, 2009 at 7:23 pm

    When was the last time anyone had confidence in the Yankees? Over the last 3-4 years I almost expect them to lose.

  671. RalphieD May 5th, 2009 at 7:23 pm

    im starting to think this joba lack of velocity thing is mental…i saw him throw 95-96 in detroit, i saw him dominate…why is that lacking…

  672. randy l. May 5th, 2009 at 7:23 pm

    the yankees need to do strength tests on chamberlain to see if something is wrong somewhere.

    his velocity has been a concern and last start he cracked it up and was fine.

    now it’s gone again.

    a lack of velocity was the tell with wang.

    what does it take for the yankees to pay the money that the red sox pay to have strength tests done ?

    something is likely physically wrong with chamberlain.

  673. Dazed & confused May 5th, 2009 at 7:23 pm

    Un-freakin-believable..No wonder Jobas mother was on meth, she didn’t want to see this pathetic pitching performance.

  674. ALB3 May 5th, 2009 at 7:23 pm

    SJ44 – you’re a cliff jumper now, too?

    I thought you’d be one of the rational ones here.

    Joba will be fine and so will the Yankees. We will win this game.

  675. C May 5th, 2009 at 7:23 pm

    is joba Hurt? cause that is the only reason he will be only throwing 90mph

  676. ye May 5th, 2009 at 7:23 pm

    time to fire girardi, steinbrenner needs to speak out against this garbage the yankees call playing baseball. it is embarassing to all of us fans

  677. Terry from NH May 5th, 2009 at 7:23 pm

    this has nothing to do with velocity.. He was hitting 95-96 through 7 innings against the Tigers last week..I watched that game on ESPN.. this is all mental. Maybe mommie on his mind. Nibbling and afraid to just throw the damn ball.. He frustrates the heck out of me.

  678. EvoLuTioN May 5th, 2009 at 7:23 pm

    PJH, he is hitting 90-91 tonight. meatballs.

  679. Blackdragon905 May 5th, 2009 at 7:24 pm

    The scouting reports are horrible. I don’t understand why we throw lowell so many fastballs. He is a fastball hitter! Ortiz just sits inside. IF you are gonna go inside, then go with a good fastball inside. That’s all we throw to him. Bay, Youkilis, and Pedroia all wait for a fastball on the outside corner. I don’t understand why we don’t mix up our pitchers more.

  680. S.A.--It's a marathon, not a sprint. Calm down. May 5th, 2009 at 7:24 pm

    Compared to this, Hughesie was pitching a gem yesterday. :P

  681. CaptainsCorner May 5th, 2009 at 7:24 pm

    I know its early for Joba…But I honestly do not think his arm has 100 pitches in it every 5th day. His fastball sits around 92 mph. Obviously I can be wrong but I see an injury waiting to happen. His stuff is just not always there as a starter. I see him as a 50 pitches at the most pitcher.

  682. Trevor May 5th, 2009 at 7:24 pm

    He CAN consistently throw harder then 91. He probably thinks “pacing” himself means come out throwing junk and then ramp it up in the 5th inning.

  683. EvoLuTioN May 5th, 2009 at 7:24 pm

    our coaching staff is beyond terrible, eiland is a joke and same with kevin long

  684. Rishi May 5th, 2009 at 7:24 pm

    do we really need to bring the mother into this? grow up

  685. carl May 5th, 2009 at 7:25 pm

    Blame our coaching staff because Joba is afraid to turn it up.

  686. EvoLuTioN May 5th, 2009 at 7:25 pm

    why is this jeter leadoff experiment still going on? damon is a much better leadoff hitter

  687. Rishi May 5th, 2009 at 7:26 pm

    ok, Tex…do something here

  688. Dazed & confused May 5th, 2009 at 7:26 pm

    start warming up Swisher…

  689. Abe's Odd World May 5th, 2009 at 7:26 pm

    from back to back gems to back to back bombs… not good.

  690. EvoLuTioN May 5th, 2009 at 7:26 pm

    Our strength and conditioning team is HORRID as well

  691. ZMAN7777 May 5th, 2009 at 7:26 pm

    I don’t see a middle ground tonight. Either the Yanks put up a fight and make it close or they get the living daylights kicked out of them. This one won’t end 6 – 4.

  692. dave May 5th, 2009 at 7:27 pm

    randy something physically wrong that alternates between starts? I dont think so. It cant be physical if his velocity is good in detroit and bad today unless something happened between then and now.

  693. Bret the Hitman May 5th, 2009 at 7:27 pm

    Joba is Jaret Wright as a starter, John Smoltz as a reliever.

    Any questions?

  694. spark May 5th, 2009 at 7:27 pm

    his mother is in issue. if espn can report it, it’s news and it’s an issue. just trying to say give the dude a break. baseball isn’t the world for these guys. it’s their job. they have lives too.

  695. Nick in SF May 5th, 2009 at 7:27 pm

    “Joba just had an awful inning and the rotation has been pretty bad, therefore Joba must rescue the bullpen with his awesomeness!”

    What?

  696. Al from BK May 5th, 2009 at 7:27 pm

    So I miss 15 minutes and we are down 4-0. I think I’m done with this team for awhile.

  697. jeet skeet May 5th, 2009 at 7:27 pm

    Yanks should move jeter to the outfield and have some actualy defense at SS with Pena…they should work on this immediately.. Jeter just cant hack at that position anymore… every game its the same stuff with him

  698. Paulie May 5th, 2009 at 7:28 pm

    rain! rain! rain! we need it now!

  699. C May 5th, 2009 at 7:28 pm

    Jeter has been hurting us the pass 2 weeks both defense and offensively. He hasnt been hitting much and his defense is really sucking

  700. Boston Dave May 5th, 2009 at 7:28 pm

    Evolution,

    how long before your posts ‘evolve’ into something intelligible?

  701. Terry from NH May 5th, 2009 at 7:28 pm

    Did we expect anything less from Tex? really?

  702. EvoLuTioN May 5th, 2009 at 7:28 pm

    great job teix, quality at bat

    :rolleyes:

  703. Drew May 5th, 2009 at 7:29 pm

    What a bunch of fairweather fans here

  704. Paulie May 5th, 2009 at 7:29 pm

    Tex, CC, AJ, A-Rod…any player with a nickname doesn’t bode well

  705. Pel (Uncertainty is certain.) May 5th, 2009 at 7:29 pm

    http://i42.tinypic.com/2hmoklc.png

  706. carl May 5th, 2009 at 7:29 pm

    We need A-Rod.

  707. Baseball Fab May 5th, 2009 at 7:29 pm

    Yes his mother is a story, yes maybe it affects him, and yes lets just leave it alone, and talk baseball

  708. kasey May 5th, 2009 at 7:29 pm

    good move sticking with the kids for this series. that’s paying huge dividends.

    i mean, it’s not like they might benefit from an extra day or two. you don’t want cc, burnett or andy pitching this series. it’s just the red sox, right?

    this team would be hilarious if they weren’t so putrid.

  709. ZMAN7777 May 5th, 2009 at 7:29 pm

    Nice to see that Tex has so much respect for the Mendoza line

  710. randy l. May 5th, 2009 at 7:29 pm

    pat m

    just like wang, something is likely physically wrong somewhere in the chain.

    there doesn’t have to be pain for there to be something wrong.

    lack of velocity is a tell.

    it’s a very big deal.

    if he doesn’t get up to 94-95mph , the yankee need to put him through a battery of strength tests to find out if there’s a problem.

    i’d be surprised if they don’t find that there is.

  711. Dazed & confused May 5th, 2009 at 7:30 pm

    when did Tex turn into Dave Kingman???? God he’s horrible

  712. Rishi May 5th, 2009 at 7:30 pm

    Dazed & confused
    May 5th, 2009 at 7:23 pm
    Un-freakin-believable..No wonder Jobas mother was on meth, she didn’t want to see this pathetic pitching performance.
    ~*~*~*~*~*~*~

    I was referring to this

  713. Tex's friend (Best 5 ever) May 5th, 2009 at 7:30 pm

    dont worry its just (insert game number).

  714. EvoLuTioN May 5th, 2009 at 7:30 pm

    can we get a clutch hit? who knows..

  715. RS May 5th, 2009 at 7:30 pm

    Also, bad decision by the Yankees to start Joba and Phil back to back against the Red Sox. You have the chance to put AJ Burnett in tonight’s game and break up the two rookies who can’t go past 5 innings. I don’t know when the Yankees next have a day off, but they’re going to need to find a way to break up the two young pitchers unless they don’t mind Aceves’ arm falling off.

  716. Benny Blanco May 5th, 2009 at 7:30 pm

    At least matsui is hitting.

  717. Terry from NH May 5th, 2009 at 7:30 pm

    Drew, actually the weather isn’t fair.. it’s drizzling out!

  718. KO May 5th, 2009 at 7:31 pm

    LOL at bay owning the red sox… Joba threw a batting practice fastball absolutely right down the pipe… Bay did what any professional hitter with some power should do..

  719. Boston Dave May 5th, 2009 at 7:31 pm

    “What a bunch of fairweather fans here”

    ———-

    that’s the nice way of putting it

  720. Chubbo May 5th, 2009 at 7:31 pm

    Tex’s friend (Best 5 ever)
    May 5th, 2009 at 7:30 pm
    dont worry its just (insert game number).

    LOL

    Well played..

  721. -trisha - click to see my bigger and better Opening Day pictures May 5th, 2009 at 7:31 pm

    Two things:

    SJ is not here so that is a fraud. Pete you might want to ban the imposter.

    Next, please don’t kill me for suggesting this but I have to wonder if the problems with Joba’s mom aren’t distracting him. We all know he isn’t that bad a pitcher.

    Okay, I will now hope for a ton of Yankee runs and Joba to try to settle in.

    I repeat. We ALL know that Joba is much much better than that. It is his mom after all.

  722. Rishi May 5th, 2009 at 7:31 pm

    Cano hasn’t had a hit in a while, now would be a good time

  723. EvoLuTioN May 5th, 2009 at 7:31 pm

    We just don’t use our players correctly, look at bobby abreu, he’s TEARING it up on the basepaths, yeah bobby stole as a yankee but not nearly as much.

  724. CaptainsCorner May 5th, 2009 at 7:32 pm

    I hope they put up a fight against Cy Young..Otherwise it will be a long game. Also no matter what the out come Joba has to give them innings today. They can’t use the clowns in the bullpen in the 4th inning.

  725. EvoLuTioN May 5th, 2009 at 7:32 pm

    saw that one coming

  726. JoeT 28 in 10 Aceves to the pen!! (SUCCESS!!) May 5th, 2009 at 7:32 pm

    Spark – ESPN reports on the spelling bee for 10 year olds and scrabble too

  727. C May 5th, 2009 at 7:32 pm

    our bottom 3 is a joke no way we will score 5+ runs

  728. Terry from NH May 5th, 2009 at 7:32 pm

    GEEZ…. I couldn’t grit my teeth any harder watching this team with RISP!

  729. Tex's friend (Best 5 ever) May 5th, 2009 at 7:32 pm

    ah yes the ol pop up.

  730. jeet skeet May 5th, 2009 at 7:33 pm

    whoa..no hit with RISP? thats a shocker!

  731. vin May 5th, 2009 at 7:33 pm

    Boston Dave, lol

  732. Al from BK May 5th, 2009 at 7:34 pm

    I want us to lose this game, hopefully 0-5 against the Sux is a wake up call. Truly absurd, I’m actually glad I missed the first inning.

  733. Tex's friend (Best 5 ever) May 5th, 2009 at 7:34 pm

    batting .350 and all of those with the bases empty

  734. A-Rod: Redefining Choke May 5th, 2009 at 7:35 pm

    Idea: if you can’t get Jason Bay out, try hitting him in the face. Where is the Joba who threw at Youkilus just to get in his head. Oh yeah, the Yankees cut his balls off.

  735. Mark May 5th, 2009 at 7:35 pm

    <>>

    You don’t have to steal as much when you have A-Rod, Jeter, Posada, Matsui, and Cano in your lineup.

    The Angels have a garbage line up right now, they need to take some chances to scratch out some runs without Vlad. So obviously he’s going to steal more.

  736. StawthatStirs - Texeira pops out to.... May 5th, 2009 at 7:35 pm

    Watch old man Tek hit one out now…

  737. Trevor May 5th, 2009 at 7:35 pm

    They need better scouting reports on the RS. How is everyone in the lineup hitting 300 against the Yankees?
    The Rays handle them well.

  738. Betsy May 5th, 2009 at 7:35 pm

    Pat, you’re probably right – Phil has never been one to make excuses. Also, his first two pitches were very good – when he didn’t get those calls, I knew it was going to be tough on him.

    Something has to be wrong with Joba – maybe his tendonitis didn’t fully heal. What is it with tendonitis anyway? Marte had it…….Tex had it…….Joba had it. Marte’s recurred, Tex’s has been a recurring thing (or so it appears – that has to account for some of his terrible struggles) and Joba’s not been the same. I know tendonitis is not considered serious, but maybe Marte’s shoulder, Tex’s wrist and Joba’s shoulder were seriously weakened and need more rehab. Wows

  739. ZMAN7777 May 5th, 2009 at 7:35 pm

    I guess this is the only other way they haven’t beaten us — the early right hook to the jaw.

  740. randy l. May 5th, 2009 at 7:36 pm

    “randy something physically wrong that alternates between starts? I dont think so”

    dave-

    oh yeah, why not? have you ever heard of cranking it up and aggravating whatever is wrong and having a setback .

    there s no explanation other than injury that joba throws 91mph. igawa touches 91mph. livan hernandez was at two mph less a week ago.

    something is wrong.

  741. RS May 5th, 2009 at 7:36 pm

    what the heck happened to YES? I guess they’re saving us the embarrassment of watching the game.

  742. Yanks22 May 5th, 2009 at 7:36 pm

    The Sox make the Yankees look like a minor league team. This is going to be a very long and ugly season.

  743. Abe's Odd World May 5th, 2009 at 7:36 pm

    wow – that was a gift.

  744. Pat M May 5th, 2009 at 7:36 pm

    Randy I, I have come to question the Yanks approach to conditioning and there lack of being pro-active when it comes to the medical awareness of their players…..RS you’re an idiot…Evolution, you still belong in tee-ball…And one last time, catch the ball with your mitt, not your head….

  745. C May 5th, 2009 at 7:36 pm

    DRill Bay in the ribs next time up hes just getting too comfortable in the box facing the yankees

  746. CaptainsCorner May 5th, 2009 at 7:37 pm

    Also people stop with this Bay owns the Yanks BS. When you continue to miss your spots on pitches that is what happens. Beckett’s last pitch to Cano it was supposed to be inside to tie him up..he throw his pitch right to where it was supposed to be. Look at the location on the pitches to Bay that Aceves, Mo and Joba threw. They were right down the middle…You need to hit your spots. Something the Yankee pitchers dont do enough and that is why they are struggling.

  747. Boston Dave May 5th, 2009 at 7:37 pm

    “I want us to lose this game”

    ——

    spoken like a true Yankee fan in the 2nd inning (well, the LoHud version of a Yankee fan)

  748. sunny615 May 5th, 2009 at 7:38 pm

    anyone have a clue as to why joba’s velocity is down so much?

  749. vin May 5th, 2009 at 7:38 pm

    Up until about a week ago, Cano was hitting at least 3 balls very hard each game… since then he’s been more like the 08 Cano. Hopefully he can turn it back around, and quick.

  750. EvoLuTioN May 5th, 2009 at 7:38 pm

    joba is so lucky these guys arent swinging at those meatballs

  751. Terry from NH May 5th, 2009 at 7:38 pm

    with this offense.. a little too late Joba.. should have done this an inning ago!

  752. S.A.--It's a marathon, not a sprint. Calm down. May 5th, 2009 at 7:38 pm

    atta boy Joba, 1 more

  753. pc69 May 5th, 2009 at 7:38 pm

    Wow, talk about Jekel and Hyde from first inning to this one. One more and this is a good recovery.

  754. Boston Dave May 5th, 2009 at 7:39 pm

    “DRill Bay in the ribs next time up hes just getting too comfortable in the box facing the yankees”

    —–

    either that or try to locate your pitches. He is a good hitter but even a bad hitter can hit mistake pitches over the middle of the plate (with no secondary pitches to keep him honest)

  755. RS May 5th, 2009 at 7:39 pm

    nice quick inning for Joba. The best we can hope for is to hold the Sox at 4 runs and chip our way back.

  756. Johnny D. May 5th, 2009 at 7:39 pm

    Great way to start the game. Gonna be another glorious game of catch up.

  757. Tex's friend (Best 5 ever) May 5th, 2009 at 7:39 pm

    how the hell can two innings be so different?

  758. pc69 May 5th, 2009 at 7:39 pm

    hmm, so Jobber, here is a concept to think about, be aggressive, attack the zone, throw 1st pitch strikes and the baseball gods shall grant thee success.

    Nice inning.

  759. JoeT 28 in 10 Aceves to the pen!! (SUCCESS!!) May 5th, 2009 at 7:39 pm

    Nice work!!

    Watching the YES broadcast, it was 6:57 and Joba was tossing in the outfield, maybe he warmed up too late and wasn’t fully warm in the first inning. It would explain flat, not so well located, 91 mph fastballs.

  760. Boston Dave May 5th, 2009 at 7:40 pm

    Joba looks like a completely different pitcher already

    that 1-0 pitch to Ellsbury was nasty

  761. Bronx Jeers May 5th, 2009 at 7:40 pm

    I really felt this game had the possibility of a clunker when Pete filled is in on the Joba-mom arrest. It’s a tough situation and mentally, Joba does have some concentration issues. Can’t really blame him there. He’s lookin better now though.

    On another thought. Note to Yankee pitchers: Don’t pitch to Jason Bay. Ever.

    4-0′s not insurmountable but this team on the whole is reminding me of “Ishtar”

  762. Wangawa May 5th, 2009 at 7:40 pm

    glad i have Hughes and Joba on my fantasy team

  763. Nick in SF May 5th, 2009 at 7:40 pm

    Joba was awful in the first inning. He should be in the bullpen!

    Joba was better in the second inning. He should be in the bullpen!

  764. Al from BK May 5th, 2009 at 7:40 pm

    We are the only team that can spend 500 mil in one off-season and actually be worse for it.

  765. S.A.--It's a marathon, not a sprint. Calm down. May 5th, 2009 at 7:40 pm

    Joba at 36 pitches

  766. Terry from NH May 5th, 2009 at 7:41 pm

    Youk- the best hitter in the AL right now isn’t even playing and it’s still 4-0.. Can’t they take adavantage of this??

  767. all sorts of riffraff May 5th, 2009 at 7:41 pm

    I’d be willing to go 0-17 against the Red Sox if it meant a championship. It’s not the team you’re losing to that matters, folks. Those guys on the field aren’t feuding with one another.

    This team needs to keep us at the correct side of .500 until everyone heals. We can’t find ourselves in the same hole we put ourselves in last year.

    Why am I daydreaming about a healthy George Steinbrenner right now?

  768. Trevor May 5th, 2009 at 7:41 pm

    “how the hell can two innings be so different?”

    Was more aggressive. Got ahead of the count. Finish the hitter off. Didn’t nibble.

  769. Boston Dave May 5th, 2009 at 7:41 pm

    “Note to Yankee pitchers: Don’t pitch to Jason Bay. Ever.”

    ——–

    Here is a better note:

    Don’t throw meatball fastballs to Jason Bay. He struggles quite a bit with breaking balls.

    The Yankees know this and you’ll notice they have started him out with breaking balls but they haven’t been getting them over.

    They fall down 2-0 and are forced to throw him fastballs.

  770. Pel (Uncertainty is certain.) May 5th, 2009 at 7:41 pm

    >anyone have a clue as to why joba’s velocity is down so much?

    it’s…april?

    i got nuttin

  771. Al from BK May 5th, 2009 at 7:42 pm

    “Joba looks like a completely different pitcher already

    that 1-0 pitch to Ellsbury was nasty”

    Too bad he already blew the game. You don’t give up 4 in the first with the other teams ace on the mound and expect to win.

  772. S.A.--It's a marathon, not a sprint. Calm down. May 5th, 2009 at 7:42 pm

    Joba was awful in the first inning. He should be in the bullpen!

    Joba was better in the second inning. He should be in the bullpen!

    ========================

    Hahaha :lol:

  773. Shdw May 5th, 2009 at 7:42 pm

    Joba’s velocity seems fine, he seems to be having mental problems with being aggressive and/ or trying to keep too much in the tank for later in the game. He is hitting 93 fairly consistently now and I’m sure he could hit 96 if he put a little more into it but he just looks uncomfortable. He was nibbling in the first and holding back and he got exactly what everyone here knew what he would get.

  774. CaptainsCorner May 5th, 2009 at 7:42 pm

    Eiland definitely told Joba to stop nibbling and attack the strike zone better. Sometimes Hughes and Joba try to be too cute with the strike zone that is when they get into trouble.

  775. Rishi May 5th, 2009 at 7:42 pm

    it appears as though that Pitching Coach so many of you want fired actually had an impact between innings

  776. Boston Dave May 5th, 2009 at 7:42 pm

    has Jason Bay hit a single offspeed pitch against the Yankees?

    I can’t remember any.

    Locate the curve or slider against Bay and he is a .250 hitter.

    He won’t chase them until he’s down in the count either. Get strike 1 and get the upper hand.

  777. vin May 5th, 2009 at 7:43 pm

    “They need better scouting reports on the RS. How is everyone in the lineup hitting 300 against the Yankees?”

    There has to be some sign stealing going on – I was suspecting this before Girardi vs Bogar yesterday. I don’t know how else to explain it. I’m still at work listening to the game, but in the first 4 games I’ve seen the sox hit pitcher’s pitches and mistakes. That’s pretty tough to beat.

  778. C May 5th, 2009 at 7:43 pm

    here comes the 2 hit shutout

  779. Al from BK May 5th, 2009 at 7:43 pm

    If any game screamed “Joba to the pen” its this one. I was there Friday and had to watch, Veras and Edwar in person. Take my word for it they are even worse in person.

  780. all sorts of riffraff May 5th, 2009 at 7:44 pm

    It’s funny that someone mentioned John Smoltz in comparison to Joba, since Smoltz is king of crapping the bad in the first inning and dominating the rest of the game.

    Al from BK….calm down, it’s Josh F’n Beckett. I can think of more than one time we’ve handed his butt to him.

  781. Boston Dave May 5th, 2009 at 7:44 pm

    “Too bad he already blew the game. You don’t give up 4 in the first with the other teams ace on the mound and expect to win.”

    ——–

    while I agree that 1 good inning doesnt make up for 1 awful inning, what puzzles me even more is why you are even a fan of the Yankees.

    You seem to be one of the more miserable people in here.

    If you can’t take a loss, you should probably follow another sport in which even the best teams don’t lose 40% of the time.

  782. carl May 5th, 2009 at 7:44 pm

    Great at bat melkman.

  783. Pat M May 5th, 2009 at 7:45 pm

    Betsy, It’s when a tendon gets inflamed, gets sore, needs rest and a shot…Lot’s of ice

  784. Nick in SF May 5th, 2009 at 7:45 pm

    Al from BK: are you the harbinger of doom?

  785. Terry from NH May 5th, 2009 at 7:45 pm

    I know Arod needs time to get his swing back, but man does this team need him more than anything right now!

  786. Benny Blanco May 5th, 2009 at 7:45 pm

    GGBG is thinking….”damn, I was just getting used to the roll call.”

  787. S.A.--It's a marathon, not a sprint. Calm down. May 5th, 2009 at 7:45 pm

    That was a nice at bat for Melky

  788. audiofunktion May 5th, 2009 at 7:46 pm

    These boston announcers so far have repeatedly said “Joba belongs in the bullpen because he DOESN”T HAVE 3 PITCHES” and also “Nick swisher was a great sign”.

    These guys are usually on point, but its not the normal Sox announcers. Send these bums home!

  789. Uncle Ellsworth May 5th, 2009 at 7:46 pm

    4-0’s not insurmountable but this team on the whole is reminding me of “Ishtar”

    Bronx please explain Ishtar reference I know it a notoriously bad film but is there more to it?

  790. Terry from NH May 5th, 2009 at 7:46 pm

    another rally killing inning.. Sigh

  791. randy l. May 5th, 2009 at 7:46 pm

    beckett isn’t exactly lighting up the radar gun either.

  792. Tex's friend (Best 5 ever) May 5th, 2009 at 7:47 pm

    well geez. berroa could have done that.

  793. -trisha - click to see my bigger and better Opening Day pictures May 5th, 2009 at 7:47 pm

    “glad i have Hughes and Joba on my fantasy team”

    I have them both also.

    :D

    Don’t worry, we’ll be fine with them.

  794. Paulie May 5th, 2009 at 7:48 pm

    In some ways this is the Knicks and Rangers fault, because if Dolan’s teams were any good, they’d be in the playoffs right now and I wouldn’t be subject to this Yankee stuff until June.

  795. Al from BK May 5th, 2009 at 7:48 pm

    “while I agree that 1 good inning doesnt make up for 1 awful inning, what puzzles me even more is why you are even a fan of the Yankees.

    You seem to be one of the more miserable people in here.

    If you can’t take a loss, you should probably follow another sport in which even the best teams don’t lose 40% of the time.”

    This team has given me no reason to believe. As I just typed this we GIDP how typical. I do think they have heart they just don’t have the depth and talent that a championship team needs. Unfortunately as a Yankee fan I’m thinking championship every year, and I usually believe in the team. This year there is something missing and it shows.

  796. Terry from NH May 5th, 2009 at 7:48 pm

    Don Orsillo is the normal Sox announcer! I live in NH so…

  797. Fan Interference May 5th, 2009 at 7:48 pm

    This…is …going…to…be…a…long….season.

  798. terpbomber May 5th, 2009 at 7:48 pm

    It’s games like this that makes Joba seem more important out of the pen than as a starter. Surely he can’t be thinking about his mother at this point! (Yes I know they’re not on speaking terms.)

    I wonder how well the Yankees would be faring if they never got the new stadium. It’s like it’s not as intimidating or something.

    Gotta stop the bleeding right now so they can rally back.

  799. randy l. May 5th, 2009 at 7:49 pm

    “Bronx please explain Ishtar reference I know it a notoriously bad film but is there more to it?”

    it cost a lot, stunk, and there were a lot of empty seat in the front rows.

  800. RS May 5th, 2009 at 7:49 pm

    I have a theory about why this team is so bad w/RISP. We have too many star players who go up to the plate looking to hit a homerun with men on base (especially when the team is down by 3+ runs). Of course the homer happy ballpark only enhances that approach.

    Teams like the Blue Jays are full of players who are just looking to put the ball in play. Do you think Marco Scutero or Adam Lind ever approach an AB swinging for the fences? As a result they are able to string together a bunch of hits instead of hitting high popups or striking out.

    If you look at the game against the Angels where we came back from 5 runs, we scored because we were able to string together singles, not hit bombs. Melky, Pena, and Gardner did a great job in that they slapped hits to the opposite field rather than try to hit a fly ball.

  801. CaptainsCorner May 5th, 2009 at 7:49 pm

    I won’t blame Joba for all 4 runs..You know the short stop is supposed to field.

  802. Pat M May 5th, 2009 at 7:49 pm

    More and more regulars are staying away from in game postings, I’m starting to understand why….The climate use to change from game to game, now it’s inning to inning..It’s crazy….Real Yankee fans wanted

  803. Ed Gern (That Car's fine looking man, it's something else!) May 5th, 2009 at 7:49 pm

    Buckett is not untouchable by any means, they can battle back. Don’t give up the ship this early!

  804. pc69 May 5th, 2009 at 7:50 pm

    How did Joba miss that he needs to go back to the bull pen. ;)

  805. stuart May 5th, 2009 at 7:50 pm

    yea beckett is a ace so far with a over 5 ERA..

    curious how many fools jump off the ledge tonight.

  806. Uncle Ellsworth May 5th, 2009 at 7:50 pm

    Thanks Randy
    sadly funny

  807. Fan Interference May 5th, 2009 at 7:51 pm

    “Bronx please explain Ishtar reference I know it a notoriously bad film but is there more to it?”

    Ishtar was a notorious Hollywood bomb, that cost alot of money, and had two big stars in Dustin Hoffman & Warren Beatty. They played lounge singers, that were badly out of tune.

  808. Terry from NH May 5th, 2009 at 7:51 pm

    Actually Becketts ERA is over 7.

  809. audiofunktion May 5th, 2009 at 7:51 pm

    terry -
    who’s this guy?

  810. all sorts of riffraff May 5th, 2009 at 7:51 pm

    “Ishtar” was an expensive bomb.

    I hate to say it but, using that analogy, we’ve been “Ishtar”-ing it since 2004.

  811. Giuseppe Franco May 5th, 2009 at 7:51 pm

    This team has given me no reason to believe. As I just typed this we GIDP how typical. I do think they have heart they just don’t have the depth and talent that a championship team needs. Unfortunately as a Yankee fan I’m thinking championship every year, and I usually believe in the team. This year there is something missing and it shows.

    ————

    Then go away and wait for football season.

    Mindless rants on gloom and doom isn’t exactly adding anything of value to this discussion board.

    If you think the game is over already, turn off the TV and watch something else.

  812. StawthatStirs - Texeira pops out to.... May 5th, 2009 at 7:53 pm

    Too much too soon?
    Head too big?
    Complacent?
    Castrated?
    Off the “program”?
    Hurt?

    Who knows.. but this is not the same Joba from 07…
    He looks scared out there… all the time..

  813. Fan Interference May 5th, 2009 at 7:53 pm

    I vote for Joba pitching out of the pen, and starting!

  814. Bronx Jeers May 5th, 2009 at 7:53 pm

    “They fall down 2-0 and are forced to throw him fastballs.”

    True. 3 meatballs. 3 big HR’s.

    He’s at .625 against them. Might as well walk him at this point. Their current approach has killed them so far.

  815. Al from BK May 5th, 2009 at 7:53 pm

    “yea beckett is a ace so far with a over 5 ERA..

    curious how many fools jump off the ledge tonight.”

    Beckett has 2 rings and pitches like a God in the post-season, I give him a lot more credit than most of our pitchers who have won nothing.

  816. Boston Dave May 5th, 2009 at 7:53 pm

    “Unfortunately as a Yankee fan I’m thinking championship every year, and I usually believe in the team. This year there is something missing and it shows.”

    ————

    I guess you’re right. They are already 9 games behind the Sox, 12 behind Toronto and have zero chance.

    They’ve played about as bad as they could have possibly played. You couldn’t have dreamed a worse start. They don’t have their best player either.

    Wait, I just checked and they’re not 9 games behind Boston. They are TWO AND A HALF.

    have a little faith… cmon.

  817. CaptainsCorner May 5th, 2009 at 7:53 pm

    Great pitch to Ortiz…

  818. pc69 May 5th, 2009 at 7:53 pm

    stuart
    May 5th, 2009 at 7:50 pm
    yea beckett is a ace so far with a over 5 ERA..
    curious how many fools jump off the ledge tonight.

    Over/under is set at 15

  819. Terry from NH May 5th, 2009 at 7:53 pm

    Audio- Don Orsillo. He does most the NESN games with Remy. He is pretty honest and non-biased. Eck must be filling in for Remy.

  820. Giuseppe Franco May 5th, 2009 at 7:53 pm

    More and more regulars are staying away from in game postings, I’m starting to understand why….The climate use to change from game to game, now it’s inning to inning..It’s crazy….Real Yankee fans wanted

    —————

    Agreed, Pat.

    Unfortunately, the insane on this blog run the asylum when they aren’t getting instant gratification.

  821. Trevor May 5th, 2009 at 7:54 pm

    Wow that’s rare. A Joba change-up. He’ll be an even better pitcher once the change improves.

  822. boobie May 5th, 2009 at 7:54 pm

    joba showing a much improved changeup…very very impressed actually.

  823. pc69 May 5th, 2009 at 7:54 pm

    Wow, one weak hit by Pedroia since the first inning and nothing since.

    Joba sucks. He can’t continue to retire Red Sox and remain a starter. He needs to go back to the bull pen. :)

  824. Boston Dave May 5th, 2009 at 7:54 pm

    “True. 3 meatballs. 3 big HR’s.

    He’s at .625 against them. Might as well walk him at this point. Their current approach has killed them so far.”

    ——–

    even Boston knows Bay struggles against a good breaking ball.

    The solution to the problem isn’t to walk a guy. It’s to locate your damn pitches. If you have to concede a walk to guys because you can’t throw strikes, they might as well jsut give up.

    The Yankee starters need to hit their spots and things will turn around very quickly.

  825. JoeT 28 in 10 Aceves to the pen!! (SUCCESS!!) May 5th, 2009 at 7:55 pm

    settling down here…. I think I may be right with his abbreviated warm-up….

  826. Fan Interference May 5th, 2009 at 7:55 pm

    “Who knows.. but this is not the same Joba from 07…
    He looks scared out there… all the time..”

    Everyone always talks about Joba having four pitches, but his mental makeup seems more geared to the pen.

  827. S.A.--It's a marathon, not a sprint. Calm down. May 5th, 2009 at 7:55 pm

    1 more Jobber

  828. Rishi May 5th, 2009 at 7:55 pm

    I strike out of Bay is WAAAAAAAAAAAAY better than an HR….

  829. Trevor May 5th, 2009 at 7:55 pm

    That’s what you have to do with Bay. Throw him breaking/off speed pitches. He feast on FBs.

  830. -trisha - click to see my bigger and better Opening Day pictures May 5th, 2009 at 7:55 pm

    Wow. That’s the Joba we know!

    If someone said something to him between innings, Kim Jones will be right on it.

    :)

  831. Terry from NH May 5th, 2009 at 7:56 pm

    Finally Bay is out.. I think I actually dislike him more than Manny.. Manny is an incredible hitter who killed us. Bay is just ordinary and has just managed to beat us in a couple games.. (well at least take a game into extra innings)

  832. CaptainsCorner May 5th, 2009 at 7:56 pm

    Nice for once not a meatball to Bay…He is not a good off speed hitter just incase the Yanks didnt know…

  833. Boston Dave May 5th, 2009 at 7:56 pm

    signed. sealed. delivered.

  834. Rishi May 5th, 2009 at 7:56 pm

    now the hitters need to get to Beckett – let’s go

  835. Broken Dream May 5th, 2009 at 7:56 pm

    Girardi’s doomsday clock is ticking

  836. randy l. May 5th, 2009 at 7:56 pm

    Dennis Eckersley has some street cred being both a starter and a closer and being in the hall of fame on the first ballot so when he says he thinks it’s a no brainer that joba should be in the pen , you have to at least listen.

  837. DYNASTY IS DESTINY! May 5th, 2009 at 7:56 pm

    Evening folks,

    Joba had a rough start but looks like he’s bouncing back…

    Now, can we score off of Beckett?

    I say we can!

    Let’s Go Yanks!!!!

  838. Pat M May 5th, 2009 at 7:56 pm

    Looks like Joba is far more efrective when he uses his offspeed stuff to set up his fastball…Not the other way around

  839. Blackdragon905 May 5th, 2009 at 7:56 pm

    There we go…we throw some pitches in the otuside corner to ortiz, he strikes out. We throw off speed pitches to bay, he can’t touch them. That’s what the yanks need to do better against the sox. Mix up the pitches a lot more. Also hit with risp too, that would greatly help.

  840. Al from BK May 5th, 2009 at 7:57 pm

    “Wait, I just checked and they’re not 9 games behind Boston. They are TWO AND A HALF.

    have a little faith… cmon.”

    This team is too unhealthy to hold up, every hitter has something wrong with them besides Cano. Also the bullpen is not getting any better, there are no reinforcements coming. Melancon was that guy, and he has been pedestrian. Until Bruney comes back which could be 3 weeks from now we have no pen.

  841. Giuseppe Franco May 5th, 2009 at 7:57 pm

    Beckett has 2 rings and pitches like a God in the post-season, I give him a lot more credit than most of our pitchers who have won nothing.

    ————-

    This isn’t October. It’s May 5th.

    Beckett has had one great regular season in 2007 and he has never come close to duplicating that kind of production in any other season.

  842. CaptainsCorner May 5th, 2009 at 7:57 pm

    Bay is like there new Millar…

  843. Boston Dave May 5th, 2009 at 7:57 pm

    “Looks like Joba is far more efrective when he uses his offspeed stuff to set up his fastball…Not the other way around”

    —–

    depends on the hitter. For Jason Bay, yes.

  844. boobie May 5th, 2009 at 7:58 pm

    love that changeup

  845. carl May 5th, 2009 at 7:58 pm

    We need to get one run at least this inning.

  846. Boston Dave May 5th, 2009 at 7:59 pm

    The problem with the Yankee pitching has been location. Nothing more.

    Hughes hit his spots and dominated. He couldn’t throw strikes and got hit.

    Joba walks guys and gets burned. He hits his spots and guys strike out.

    CC can’t locate his fastball, not gonna be a good day.

    AJ throws to the corners, look out. When he’s walking 9 guys, he’s toast.

  847. pc69 May 5th, 2009 at 7:59 pm

    5 of 6 retired since the first.

    To all the insane, this is the ledge calling, get off my back and go sit back down.

    Nice pitching by Joba.

    And for those who are on the Joba to the pen kick, his breaking ball is setting up his fastball tonight. That doesn’t happen in the pen. He is slowly developing into a great pitcher, just needs to keep things in line between his ears.

    He will be the ACE of the staff in two years.

  848. randy l. May 5th, 2009 at 8:01 pm

    is saying where has 5 mph gone from joba;s fastball.

    he doesn’t get it. saying is he pacing himself?
    he’s ragging on his staff for not telling him that joba has a good circle change, and just called joba gas masterson.

    i think Eckersley is knowledgeable and a character with some of the off the wall stuff.

  849. Pat M May 5th, 2009 at 8:01 pm

    I still like Joba in the pen

  850. -trisha - click to see my bigger and better Opening Day pictures May 5th, 2009 at 8:02 pm

    :D

    Jose!

  851. EvoLuTioN May 5th, 2009 at 8:02 pm

    http://www.sawauto.com/uploade.....-05%5D.jpg

  852. Al from BK May 5th, 2009 at 8:02 pm

    People talk like they wouldn’t want Beckett on this team tomorrow. He is a very good pitcher.

  853. JoeT 28 in 10 Aceves to the pen!! (SUCCESS!!) May 5th, 2009 at 8:02 pm

    Slowly the jumpers will start coming back to the blog

  854. Buddy Biancalana May 5th, 2009 at 8:03 pm

    Jeterian swing? Kay is awful!

  855. EvoLuTioN May 5th, 2009 at 8:03 pm

    jeterian style

  856. -trisha - click to see my bigger and better Opening Day pictures May 5th, 2009 at 8:03 pm

    Jete

    :)

    Hey are we sure that’s Randy?

  857. Nick in SF May 5th, 2009 at 8:03 pm

    For the love of Joba, bring the big man home!

  858. JR May 5th, 2009 at 8:03 pm

    yeah, Jeter’s done. Lets send him down to AAA

  859. EvoLuTioN May 5th, 2009 at 8:03 pm

    damon 3 run BOMB

  860. Uncle Ellsworth May 5th, 2009 at 8:03 pm

    Too bad Reggie Miller was banned.

    Demonic!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  861. carl May 5th, 2009 at 8:03 pm

    Johnny!!!

  862. Al from BK May 5th, 2009 at 8:03 pm

    Good job Johnny!

  863. JoeT 28 in 10 Aceves to the pen!! (SUCCESS!!) May 5th, 2009 at 8:04 pm

    SEEEE YAAAAA

  864. JR May 5th, 2009 at 8:04 pm

    hahahahaaaa here’s Johnnyyyyyyyy!!!!

  865. EvoLuTioN May 5th, 2009 at 8:04 pm

    man damon just loves that

  866. Terry from NH May 5th, 2009 at 8:04 pm

    Yes Johnny !! He has been so clutch this year.. Resign this guy immediately!

  867. randy l. May 5th, 2009 at 8:04 pm

    ‘The problem with the Yankee pitching has been location. Nothing more.’

    boston dave-

    how can joba’s lack of velocity not be a concern? though i do agree the yankee walk way too many hitters and their location i a problem.

    i just don’t think it’s the only problem.

  868. -trisha - click to see my bigger and better Opening Day pictures May 5th, 2009 at 8:04 pm

    YEEHA!!!!!

    HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!!!!

    OH MY GOD!!!!!

    I knew we could come back!!!!!

    Beckett hasn’t been scary for a while. Truly.

  869. terpbomber May 5th, 2009 at 8:04 pm

    Johnny! That’s more like it!

  870. EvoLuTioN May 5th, 2009 at 8:04 pm

    see thats what happens when you dont take first pitch strikes, BE AGRESSIVE!

  871. Chubbo May 5th, 2009 at 8:04 pm

    WHy does Johnny Damon hate Beckett like this?

    He KILLS him!!

    Didn’t they used to be friends?

    HAH

  872. Benny Blanco May 5th, 2009 at 8:04 pm

    As much as we kill damon, HE IS A GAMER!!!

  873. vin May 5th, 2009 at 8:04 pm

    What??? All hope is NOT lost?!

  874. Terry from NH May 5th, 2009 at 8:04 pm

    Can Tex go back to back.. Yanks have hit Beckett plenty of times over the years!

  875. nothingbutnet May 5th, 2009 at 8:05 pm

    johnny boy

  876. DYNASTY IS DESTINY! May 5th, 2009 at 8:05 pm

    Whole new ballgame, thanks to Johnny D.!!!!

    Go Yanks!!!!!

  877. Nick in SF May 5th, 2009 at 8:05 pm

    Al from BK: if the Yankees win this game, will you promise not to post your fatalistic doomsday stuff for a week?

  878. pc69 May 5th, 2009 at 8:05 pm

    Damon HR.

    God the Yankees suck, This game is over, this team is horrible, Joba sucks. Damon is washed up. Jeter can’t hit. blah blah blah blah blah.

    Game is FAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRR from over.

  879. carl May 5th, 2009 at 8:05 pm

    Come on Tex!

  880. EvoLuTioN May 5th, 2009 at 8:05 pm

    tex isn’t turning around :lol:

  881. dave May 5th, 2009 at 8:05 pm

    i JUST DONT think joba is hurt at all. It wasnt like he cranked it up for a few pitches in detroit. Wasnt he consistently in the mid 90s there? If not, let me know but he cant do that when injured and all of a sudden be lacking velocity again. You can crank it up for a few pitches but not for an entire game/

  882. Boston Dave May 5th, 2009 at 8:05 pm

    “People talk like they wouldn’t want Beckett on this team tomorrow. He is a very good pitcher.”

    ——–

    of course… but do you really think with the start he’s had this season that the fans in here wouldn’t be destroying him and saying he’s terrible?

  883. Terry from NH May 5th, 2009 at 8:05 pm

    God, he is terrible! Is that 160 mil gets you nowadays?

  884. S.A.--It's a marathon, not a sprint. Calm down. May 5th, 2009 at 8:05 pm

    Damon! :)

  885. boobie May 5th, 2009 at 8:05 pm

    tex having trouble with the curve tonight

  886. EvoLuTioN May 5th, 2009 at 8:05 pm

    lets go matsui!

  887. Rishi May 5th, 2009 at 8:06 pm

    wait a second – the game didn’t end in the first inning? how can that be?

  888. Steve in MN May 5th, 2009 at 8:06 pm

    “The problem with the Yankee pitching has been location. Nothing more.”

    Fancy way of saying their pitching has been poor. If every pitcher located his pitches games would end 1-0. Don’t see why you’re trying to downplay it.

  889. Terry from NH May 5th, 2009 at 8:06 pm

    oops meant $180 mil..

  890. rodney May 5th, 2009 at 8:06 pm

    Was that Shelly Duncan that just waffed up there?

  891. EvoLuTioN May 5th, 2009 at 8:06 pm

    Beckett is overrated

  892. Uncle Ellsworth May 5th, 2009 at 8:06 pm

    Jeterian is a Sterlingism
    stolen by Kay

    as is his saying “long days journey into night” when a day- game goes on too long

    Kay is a hack

  893. Giuseppe Franco May 5th, 2009 at 8:06 pm

    Al from BK: if the Yankees win this game, will you promise not to post your fatalistic doomsday stuff for a week?

    —————

    I vote the rest of the season.

  894. CENTRAL CT YANKEE May 5th, 2009 at 8:06 pm

    Stop boooing are players this is so stupid……

  895. Boston Dave May 5th, 2009 at 8:06 pm

    Fans really need to stop with the “Boston sucks” chant.

    It’s pitiful when Sox fans use it and it’s ten times worse that Yankee fans are copying the pitiful Sox fans.

  896. rodney May 5th, 2009 at 8:07 pm

    oh snap sorry that was 180 million dollars of wrist injury.

  897. Joe from Long Island May 5th, 2009 at 8:07 pm

    Your’re reading it here first –

    Don’t be shocked if – depending on how Bucholz and Bard do this year – the Sox make a mid-season trade of Beckett for first rate catching talent. His contract is up this year, I believe, but even if not, he’s having problems. Maybe with Texas; I’m guessing that Nolan Ryan would be intrigued by Beckett.

  898. vin May 5th, 2009 at 8:07 pm

    “As much as we kill damon, HE IS A GAMER!!!”

    I’ll never kill Damon… he’s too good of a guy, too good of a player, and plays the game so hard.

  899. EvoLuTioN May 5th, 2009 at 8:07 pm

    matsui gets a 2nd life

  900. randy l. May 5th, 2009 at 8:07 pm

    “Hey are we sure that’s Randy?”

    trisha -

    you can tell if it’s me if i’m ticking people off :)

  901. Big Joe May 5th, 2009 at 8:08 pm

    Tex!!! I understand him struggling but how about showing some fire. I mean he just seems resigned to making outs.

  902. Al from BK May 5th, 2009 at 8:08 pm

    “Al from BK: if the Yankees win this game, will you promise not to post your fatalistic doomsday stuff for a week?”

    I’ll cut back on it but splitting at home after getting owned at Fenway is nothing to brag about. There was a time when we ruled this rivalry.

  903. EvoLuTioN May 5th, 2009 at 8:08 pm

    how the ___ did grandpa lowell make that

  904. -trisha - click to see my bigger and better Opening Day pictures May 5th, 2009 at 8:08 pm

    Al from BK – scout’s honor – I would NOT want Beckett on this team.

  905. Tank May 5th, 2009 at 8:09 pm

    Damon is almost tailored made for the short porch.

  906. Boston Dave May 5th, 2009 at 8:09 pm

    ““The problem with the Yankee pitching has been location. Nothing more.”

    Fancy way of saying their pitching has been poor. If every pitcher located his pitches games would end 1-0. Don’t see why you’re trying to downplay it.”

    ——

    true, but I’m not trying to downplay it.

    They need to just go out and pitch and not try to be cute. Some guys will always have issues with location (see: Oliver Perez, Daisuke, etc).

    That’s not the case with guys like CC or Hughes/Joba in their short careers so far. They just need to get back on track.

  907. Chubbo May 5th, 2009 at 8:09 pm

    Beckett traded??

    LOL

    JAckA$$

  908. EvoLuTioN May 5th, 2009 at 8:09 pm

    that was cano’s pitch to hit

  909. RS May 5th, 2009 at 8:09 pm

    Regardless of the tough outcomes these last two days, I think Hughes and Joba are growing as pitchers. Hughes has been getting swings and misses on his fastball (something that was missing last year) and seems to have as much confidence in his new cutter as his curveball (remember the cries last year that he only had 2 pitches?).

    Joba might not be throwing his fastball at full velocity, but his breaking stuff looks better the last couple starts.

    As frustrating as it is to watch Joba and Hughes struggle with command, this is something that 95% of young pitchers go through. I remember when the biggest knock against Lester was that he walked too many batters, and now look how far he’s come with attacking the strike zone.

    We just need to be patient with the young starters and hope that CC, Burnett, and Pettitte can be a strong backbone for this rotation.

  910. -trisha - click to see my bigger and better Opening Day pictures May 5th, 2009 at 8:10 pm

    “you can tell if it’s me if i’m ticking people off :)

    :lol:

  911. S.A.--It's a marathon, not a sprint. Calm down. May 5th, 2009 at 8:10 pm

    Maybe the red sox should send Beckett to the bullpen? :)

  912. boobie May 5th, 2009 at 8:10 pm

    tex 1-11 with 5 k’s against beckett tough day to try and get something going for him.

  913. Joe M May 5th, 2009 at 8:10 pm

    Pete you can’t blame the fans for being absent from behind home plate for tonight’s game. If this was the playoffs that would be one thing, but for a weeknight game in May not many people would shell out $2500 for a seat. Personally I find it gratifying every time I look on tv and see those seats empty, because I know somewhere the ownership is (hopefully) seeing the same thing and realizing that they can’t get away with what they’ve been doing anymore.

  914. Boston Dave May 5th, 2009 at 8:10 pm

    “I’ll cut back on it but splitting at home after getting owned at Fenway is nothing to brag about. There was a time when we ruled this rivalry.”

    —-

    ya, way back in 2008 when the Yanks won the season series.

  915. Clay Buchholz Loves Laptops - Latest Blog Entry: My Interview With Bill Gallo May 5th, 2009 at 8:10 pm

    “4-0’s not insurmountable but this team on the whole is reminding me of “Ishtar”

    Someone just posted the exact same comment on my Facebook page. Pretty funny, unless Bronx Jeers is actually one of my Facebook friends.

  916. Steve in MN May 5th, 2009 at 8:11 pm

    Joe from LI,

    I don’t think they could get rid of him, might be poor most of the year, but he’s lights-out come October which makes him worth it.

  917. -trisha - click to see my bigger and better Opening Day pictures May 5th, 2009 at 8:11 pm

    Geeze Louise it is AWESOME to hear Eck gushing about Robby. He absolutely loves him.

    :) :)

  918. Nick in SF May 5th, 2009 at 8:12 pm

    Boston Dave: I will admit that “Boston sucks” is rather uncouth, but it’s been part of the rivalry for a looooooong time, I don’t think it’s going anywhere. Reportedly, when a young Babe Ruth joined his new team in New York, a local reporter asked him how his old home compared to his new one. His reply is still echoed nightly when the Sox come to town.

  919. EvoLuTioN May 5th, 2009 at 8:12 pm

    mike lowell owns this team

  920. -trisha - click to see my bigger and better Opening Day pictures May 5th, 2009 at 8:12 pm

    Now, I would be highly surprised if we can’t cobble another run or two!

  921. terpbomber May 5th, 2009 at 8:12 pm

    I hope the good vibes didn’t end when Teixeira killed the momentum (three straight outs after Damon’s tater?). They need to pile on the hits and runs before Beckett settles down.

  922. Tex's friend (Best 5 ever) May 5th, 2009 at 8:12 pm

    may is not cano’s april

  923. Boston Dave May 5th, 2009 at 8:13 pm

    “I realize it’s cold. But when the Yankees are playing the Red Sox, the the fourth, sixth and seventh row directly behind the plate should not be completely empty.”

    ———

    Pete, agreed… except attendance is down across the league. It’s a recession…

    I liked your previous idea that the seats should be given to charities to auction off or to give to kids.

  924. kd May 5th, 2009 at 8:13 pm

    looks like this will be a battle of the bullpen again.

  925. cgs May 5th, 2009 at 8:14 pm

    Pete

    How have you not realized by now that the legends seats people aren’t in their seats because it is raining and they have 2 restaurants and 2 bars with all inclusive food and drink to hang out in. It’s not that hard to understand.

  926. Trevor May 5th, 2009 at 8:14 pm

    The booing of Teixiera has become ridiculous now. I can see if you want to boo him if he K’s in a big spot. But after a normal out?

  927. Paranoid Android May 5th, 2009 at 8:14 pm

    Has Michael Kay finished his Mike Lowell ball-washing? not likely.

  928. Vince May 5th, 2009 at 8:15 pm

    Damon is the lone Red Sox killer on our team.

  929. Angel - A tale told by idiots, full of sound and fury - signifying nothing. May 5th, 2009 at 8:15 pm

    Someone just posted the exact same comment on my Facebook page. Pretty funny, unless Bronx Jeers is actually one of my Facebook friends.

    **********************
    lol, that is funny. That’s precisely why i’ve never joined the Facebook version of this blog, though, lol. Imagine some of the comments on here during a game on my facebook wall? Ugh.

  930. StawthatStirs - Texeira pops out to.... May 5th, 2009 at 8:15 pm

    Red Sox suxs chants??? Really??? Wow, this is not our Yankee Stadium… Along with all the other problems this stadium has, now it’s filled (ok, half filled) with fans on the level w/ Boston fans in the Class dept??

  931. Boston Dave May 5th, 2009 at 8:15 pm

    “Boston Dave: I will admit that “Boston sucks” is rather uncouth, but it’s been part of the rivalry for a looooooong time, I don’t think it’s going anywhere.”

    ——

    You’re right… I just hate legitimizing the ridiculous Yankees Suck chant (which was in full use even when the Yankees owned the league).

    I could be wrong but it seems to me that the “Boston Sucks” chants started to come out a bit more when they started winning.

    So basically “Yankees Suck” or “Boston Sucks” equals “You are better than us right now”

  932. Tex's friend (Best 5 ever) May 5th, 2009 at 8:15 pm

    now his april

  933. Ben May 5th, 2009 at 8:16 pm

    anyone else getting commercials in the middle of innings?

  934. vin May 5th, 2009 at 8:16 pm

    Two changeups to Drew… he seems to be making an effort to incorporate the pitch.

  935. Betsy May 5th, 2009 at 8:17 pm

    Pat M, thanks! It’s just frustrating that something as relatively minor as tendonitis can linger to the extent it has….Maybe it’s just growing pains with Joba – he’s still just a kid – like it is with Phil. We’re going to see some good outings and some bad – remember that ML hitters have adjusted to him and he’s going to have to adjust back.

  936. Boston Dave May 5th, 2009 at 8:17 pm

    “The booing of Teixiera has become ridiculous now.”

    ——-

    I hate booing a player who is giving 100%.

    Do fans think it’s going to make Tex play harder?

    Boo a guy who doesn’t give 100%.

    Don’t boo a guy who wants to hit better more than anything.

    If a guy isn’t good enough, it’s not his fault he’s in the lineup… it’s the GM/manager.

    Don’t boo the player if he’s trying.

  937. carl May 5th, 2009 at 8:17 pm

    Come on Joba you have to attack Varitek.

  938. Bronx Jeers May 5th, 2009 at 8:17 pm

    “Someone just posted the exact same comment on my Facebook page. Pretty funny, unless Bronx Jeers is actually one of my Facebook friends.”

    I’m not. No offense of course. This blog represents the extent of my web social networking.

    I actually did read your Gallo interview though. I like Gallo. One of the last of the greats.

    Don’t umps ever think ” Well the catcher moved his glove, must have been a ball”

  939. Trevor May 5th, 2009 at 8:18 pm

    He has a great change up tonight.

  940. Benny Blanco May 5th, 2009 at 8:18 pm

    Trevor
    May 5th, 2009 at 8:14 pm
    The booing of Teixiera has become ridiculous now. I can see if you want to boo him if he K’s in a big spot. But after a normal out?

    welcome to the land of arod.

    Arod gets booed every year at home for chewing gum the wrong way.

  941. Boston Dave May 5th, 2009 at 8:19 pm

    Didn’t the Boston announcers say Joba has two pitches?

    Are they telling their audience that Joba’s fastball is so bad it’s down to 80 with a slight drop when he’s throwing the changeup??

  942. carl May 5th, 2009 at 8:19 pm

    GJ Joba!

  943. Paranoid Android May 5th, 2009 at 8:20 pm

    “Come on Joba you have to attack Varitek.”

    or, better yet:

    Come on Joba you have to attack Papelbon.

  944. Trevor May 5th, 2009 at 8:20 pm

    Last pitch was 95 mph. His velocity is going up every inning.

  945. Uncle Ellsworth May 5th, 2009 at 8:20 pm

    Has Joba been in the 90s since the first inning?

  946. stuart May 5th, 2009 at 8:20 pm

    I do not have the game but assume since the 1st Joba is overpowering? Is that correct any insight.

    thanks…

  947. dave May 5th, 2009 at 8:20 pm

    Some people just have a warped distorted memory of the past. Beckett SUCKED in the playoffs last year. hE WAS JUSR mediocre in the regular season last year and he sucked in 2006 on the sox. He also he doing terribly this season so far with an era over 7. So all in all, beckett has had one great season with the sox and one amazing playoff run with the sox both in 2007 obviously. I mean he did help them win the world series that year but outside of that season, beckett’s career has been subpar on the sox in 2006, 2008 and this year. He is definitely not an ace IMO outside of that one season in the AL east. That does not make him an ace.

    Meanwhile, where did all that joba is injured, joba is a reliever BS go? It all disappears as soon as he once again shows how great he is as a starter. He also has some of the best stats when comparing him to the best starters in the game if you begin the comparison when joba finally entered the rotation.

  948. Spiced Ham May 5th, 2009 at 8:21 pm

    Man. How can one suck so hard in one inning and be so good the next three after. Ugh

  949. Angel - A tale told by idiots, full of sound and fury - signifying nothing. May 5th, 2009 at 8:21 pm

    Jobber (i’m so adopting that) is looking like a completely different pitcher.

  950. S.A.--It's a marathon, not a sprint. Calm down. May 5th, 2009 at 8:21 pm

    that fastball was 95.

  951. Sean Serritella May 5th, 2009 at 8:21 pm

    Hey guys, can we throw out Joba’s first inning tonight? Thanks. Joba is throwing a lot of change ups. The first inning he was throwing belt high fast balls that the Red Sox were crushing.

  952. -trisha - click to see my bigger and better Opening Day pictures May 5th, 2009 at 8:21 pm

    Come on. I could actually start crying from just being so flippin blown away by what I am seeing from Joba. (That and I’ve had a little bit of a rough day.) :D

    Seriously, I am blown away. He is phenomenal.

    Now I can’t wait to hear the postgame because we will definitely get the deal from Joba. Or Eiland. Or Girardi.

  953. Nick in SF May 5th, 2009 at 8:21 pm

    “I’ll cut back on it but splitting at home after getting owned at Fenway is nothing to brag about.”

    Yelling “abandon ship!” on May 5 isn’t much to be proud of either.

  954. Shdw May 5th, 2009 at 8:21 pm

    In case you haven’t noticed. Joba’s fastball velocity have increased from 89 mph at the beginning to about 94 now.

  955. Al from BK May 5th, 2009 at 8:21 pm

    “looks like this will be a battle of the bullpen again.”

    :(

  956. Rishi May 5th, 2009 at 8:22 pm

    Job’a sbeen much better since the first – now if only someone could so something about the pitch count! I know, i know – baby steps

  957. eric in queens May 5th, 2009 at 8:22 pm

    Joba’s looking a lot better. However, while everyone’s focusing on his reduced velocity, I’ve noticed his slider is suffering as well. I haven’t seen that deadly, straight down slider this year. He’s mostly throwing a get me over, fat slider. It’s good because he can now throw it for a strike but doesn’t seem to use it as an out pitch anymore.

  958. stuart May 5th, 2009 at 8:22 pm

    tex is a pro. he has been a star since he is 17, he will figure it out. it is a long long season……….

    he got all that dough for a reason also not declining star BS the guy just turned 29 and speed is not one of his tools…

  959. Boston Dave May 5th, 2009 at 8:22 pm

    haven’t seen m today….

    I can’t talk because my team lost too but her Lakers went down.

    I’m sure the NBA will do something to make sure its Kobe vs LeBron in the Finals though.

    They wouldn’t allow it any other way.

  960. carl May 5th, 2009 at 8:22 pm

    Swish is due for a Yankee Stadium home run.

  961. S.A.--It's a marathon, not a sprint. Calm down. May 5th, 2009 at 8:23 pm

    Jobber recovered from that crappy 1st inning. He is at 71 pitches right now

  962. Benny Blanco May 5th, 2009 at 8:23 pm

    ellsbury left game with tight hamstring.

  963. carl May 5th, 2009 at 8:23 pm

    Just not right now.

  964. Boston Dave May 5th, 2009 at 8:23 pm

    “That and I’ve had a little bit of a rough day.”

    ——-

    rough day? you should feel liberated.

  965. C May 5th, 2009 at 8:23 pm

    WOW a redsox injuried HEHEHE

  966. Boston Dave May 5th, 2009 at 8:24 pm

    Red Sox players dropping like flies.

    The Yanks have had their injuries but at least the Sox are trying to match them.

  967. carl May 5th, 2009 at 8:24 pm

    Way to be aggressive :)

  968. Tex's friend (Best 5 ever) May 5th, 2009 at 8:24 pm

    go get him again joe . bad call.

  969. Benny Blanco May 5th, 2009 at 8:24 pm

    wow..that hurt.

  970. Benny Blanco May 5th, 2009 at 8:24 pm

    wow..that hurt.

  971. Rishi May 5th, 2009 at 8:24 pm

    Ellsbury’s out too…nice

  972. Al from BK May 5th, 2009 at 8:24 pm

    That always happens to us.

  973. dave May 5th, 2009 at 8:24 pm

    DAMN YOU MELKY. That was soo unneccesary!

  974. Angel - A tale told by idiots, full of sound and fury - signifying nothing. May 5th, 2009 at 8:25 pm

    ack

  975. dave May 5th, 2009 at 8:25 pm

    That was meals too – that moron from last night

  976. Al from BK May 5th, 2009 at 8:25 pm

    Jerry Meals strikes again.

  977. RGR May 5th, 2009 at 8:25 pm

    Good base running Pudge Cabrera

  978. carl May 5th, 2009 at 8:25 pm

    Sucks though he would have scored!!!

  979. S.A.--It's a marathon, not a sprint. Calm down. May 5th, 2009 at 8:26 pm

    :|

  980. Bronx Jeers May 5th, 2009 at 8:26 pm

    “Who’s Your Daddy” was the best chant in recent memory. I think even Pedro enjoyed that one.

    I’m also a fan of the drawn out last name of an opposing pitcher. “Schiiiilll-iiiing”

    Everybody gets booed once in a while. To me it’s counter-productive but the fans don’t have any allegiance to the newbies. Yet.

    The Arod booing was dumb. How can you boo your best offensive player?

    Buckner!

    The Mo booing was beyond dumb.

  981. dave May 5th, 2009 at 8:26 pm

    melky would score now – what is the point of getting on third when he needed a hit either way? You cant do that as the tying run

  982. Angel - A tale told by idiots, full of sound and fury - signifying nothing. May 5th, 2009 at 8:26 pm

    It took two perfect throws and it was damn close. Sheesh.

  983. stuart May 5th, 2009 at 8:26 pm

    ellsbury and youkilis are hurt because the team is old and unathletic and epstein should have planned for this!!!!!!

    sounds stupid huh!!It is … you cannot plan for every possible contingency…..

  984. stuart May 5th, 2009 at 8:26 pm

    ellsbury and youkilis are hurt because the team is old and unathletic and epstein should have planned for this!!!!!!

    sounds stupid huh!!It is … you cannot plan for every possible contingency…..

  985. Trevor May 5th, 2009 at 8:26 pm

    I was not thinking triple on that Melky hit.

  986. Nick in SF May 5th, 2009 at 8:26 pm

    Ok, don’t get on Melky now, we all know about that famous Fallacy…

  987. RS May 5th, 2009 at 8:26 pm

    Can’t argue with that play. The chances of Melky making 3B was greater than the chances of Pena and/or Molina getting a hit to score him from second.

    And now the Sox make an error.

  988. Coach6423 May 5th, 2009 at 8:26 pm

    With Pena and Molina coming up and 1 out, it was the right play by Melky…

  989. Tex's friend (Best 5 ever) May 5th, 2009 at 8:26 pm

    no problem trying to take 3rd. and he was in there in time too, cant help bad calls from bitter umps.

  990. Angel - A tale told by idiots, full of sound and fury - signifying nothing. May 5th, 2009 at 8:27 pm

    That looked actually really close – almost like a tie.

  991. carl May 5th, 2009 at 8:27 pm

    This umpire has been solid.

  992. MdC May 5th, 2009 at 8:27 pm

    Whatever happened to that Alberto Gonzalez kid and Justin Christian? Haven’t really been following. Just out of curiosity.

  993. Boston Dave May 5th, 2009 at 8:28 pm

    big strikezone for Beckett this inning

  994. Rishi May 5th, 2009 at 8:28 pm

    both are no longer Yankees

  995. vin May 5th, 2009 at 8:28 pm

    “DAMN YOU MELKY. That was soo unneccesary!”

    With only 1 out and Pena and Molina coming up it was the right move. If he makes it, a sac fly ties it. Another problem with having Molina’s bat in the game.

  996. Shdw May 5th, 2009 at 8:28 pm

    carl May 5th, 2009 at 8:27 pm

    This umpire has been solid.

    —–
    Jinx

  997. dave May 5th, 2009 at 8:28 pm

    BTW Guys, Joba this year is BY FAR our best starter so far without question. No one has been too impressive but only joba and pettitte so far have stats that they can be proud of.

  998. Nick in SF May 5th, 2009 at 8:28 pm

    “melky would score now – what is the point of getting on third when he needed a hit either way?”

    Come on dave, you should know better. If Melky is safe at third, he scores on a sac fly. And you can’t assume the same sequence would have occured anyway.

  999. Uncle Ellsworth May 5th, 2009 at 8:29 pm

    Nick in SF
    May 5th, 2009 at 8:26 pm
    Ok, don’t get on Melky now, we all know about that famous Fallacy…

    of the predetermined hit?

  1000. Trevor May 5th, 2009 at 8:29 pm

    Joba has gotten sharp but has thrown a ton pitches through 4.

  1001. carl May 5th, 2009 at 8:29 pm

    Naw it really was a strike.

  1002. stuart May 5th, 2009 at 8:29 pm

    gonzalez got raded to wash last year. christian?

  1003. Coach6423 May 5th, 2009 at 8:29 pm

    Dave do you understand the game of baseball at all??

  1004. RGR May 5th, 2009 at 8:29 pm

    It wasnt a bad call, Melky was obviously out

  1005. Terry from NH May 5th, 2009 at 8:29 pm

    Wow, Eck is tearing at Molina saying he is an automatic out! I wish I could reach into the TV right now and and pull his 1975 hairdo right out of his head…

  1006. terpbomber May 5th, 2009 at 8:30 pm

    Maybe Melky got greedy, but at least he was trying to help. With one out sometimes you need to take that risk. But what’s to say that this lost potential run would’ve made a difference at the end?

  1007. Uncle Ellsworth May 5th, 2009 at 8:30 pm

    You can’t fault Melky for playing with URGENCY!

  1008. Rishi May 5th, 2009 at 8:30 pm

    Christian was rule 5′ed to Baltimore, right?

  1009. Bronx Jeers May 5th, 2009 at 8:30 pm

    Come on Jose! Pick us up.

  1010. Clay Buchholz Loves Laptops - Latest Blog Entry: My Interview With Bill Gallo May 5th, 2009 at 8:30 pm

    “I actually did read your Gallo interview though. I like Gallo. One of the last of the greats.”

    Thanks, Bronx Jeers. I agree with you about Gallo. He’s a legend, as well as a great guy.

  1011. dave May 5th, 2009 at 8:31 pm

    As the tying run, I dont think it was worth it to try. He needs to know the strength of the arm of the outfielders. That was a strong accurate arm he was up against.

  1012. randy l. May 5th, 2009 at 8:31 pm

    the angels go for it all the time the way melky did.

    i have no problem with him going for it , but a slide knowing where the ball was coming from would have been nice.

    he might have got in the way.

  1013. S.A.--It's a marathon, not a sprint. Calm down. May 5th, 2009 at 8:31 pm

    it’s pouring right now in central jersey

  1014. dave May 5th, 2009 at 8:32 pm

    we would be tied now but melky hAD to go.

  1015. RGR May 5th, 2009 at 8:32 pm

    Thanks Melky

  1016. Al from BK May 5th, 2009 at 8:32 pm

    Next inning we better score. This junior varsity line-up is frustrating.

  1017. Coach6423 May 5th, 2009 at 8:33 pm

    Dave,

    It takes two perfect throws to get you. With one out, you take the chance so that you can score on a GB, or Sac fly. With Pena and Molina coming up, the chances of one of them getting a hit that will score him from second are slim to none. It was absolutely the right play by Melky.

  1018. dave May 5th, 2009 at 8:34 pm

    cOACH

    Do you understand it would have been 4 to 4 now if melky didnt try for third? Do you understand how accurate and strong pedroia’s arm is? Do you understand that melky could have tried to steal third if need be? Do you understand that we had two cracks of the bat to get one hit in which melky would have scored? Apparently you dont but you like being annoying

  1019. ALB3 May 5th, 2009 at 8:34 pm

    Joba has been pitching incredible since his hiccup at the start. There will be no stopping him. Beckett looks awful. Next inning is our chance to do some real damage. But Tex needs to get a frikkin hit!

  1020. Rishi May 5th, 2009 at 8:34 pm

    had Melky stayed at 2nd would he not been stranded at 3rd? After moving to third on the Pena ab

  1021. Nick in SF May 5th, 2009 at 8:34 pm

    Tying the game isn’t worth it? Trying for the extra base with Pena and Molina coming up isn’t worth it? That’s exactly when it *is* worth it.

  1022. RGR May 5th, 2009 at 8:34 pm

    “You can’t fault Melky for playing with URGENCY!”

    Its not urgency, its stupidity. You dont go for a triple on an obvious double when your the tying run in an important game. Maybe its his way of thinking that he can be fast like his counterpart Gardner? But its never going to be the case as Melkys obesity will always hold him back

  1023. carl May 5th, 2009 at 8:34 pm

    Joba @ 71 Beckett @ 72

  1024. vin May 5th, 2009 at 8:35 pm

    “the angels go for it all the time the way melky did.”

    The Angels are an interesting team… I’ve never seen a club run themselves out of more innings. On the other hand, it IS their style, and it helps them win games. My guess is that style helps 51% of the time. Whatever works, I guess.

  1025. Uncle Ellsworth May 5th, 2009 at 8:35 pm

    If Brett did that would it be called grit/guts?
    Melky does it and he’s clueless?

    I bet Giardi LOVED that play.

  1026. Joe from Long Island May 5th, 2009 at 8:35 pm

    How cuold Ellsbury be out with a hamstring injury? I thought the Sox had the intelligence and methodology to prevent injuries. And Youkilis too, last night. What can we believe in?

  1027. Coach6423 May 5th, 2009 at 8:35 pm

    Dave,

    Learn about how to play the game, and get back to me.

    Love,
    Coach

  1028. dave May 5th, 2009 at 8:36 pm

    What is the point of being obnoxious in this blog? Is it required to get a point across? And the best is when its just a nasty comment with no real point attached. Way to add something to the blog with those.

  1029. Terry from NH May 5th, 2009 at 8:37 pm

    Yes Melky blew that all they way.. Can you say manufacture there? Something this team fails to do.

  1030. carl May 5th, 2009 at 8:37 pm

    Joba is nasty man.

  1031. Steve in MN May 5th, 2009 at 8:37 pm

    “Joba has gotten sharp but has thrown a ton pitches through 4.”

    Becket has more through 4

  1032. Ed Gern (That Car's fine looking man, it's something else!) May 5th, 2009 at 8:37 pm

    Our boy Joba is starting to bear down, good to see him battle back. It is what young pitchers need to learn.

  1033. Terry from NH May 5th, 2009 at 8:38 pm

    The bald elf has to K here…please!

  1034. RGR May 5th, 2009 at 8:38 pm

    “If Brett did that would it be called grit/guts?
    Melky does it and he’s clueless?
    I bet Giardi LOVED that play.”

    Pete may have said it as a joke to poke at the Gardner haters/Melky lovers, but its all a joke.

    Gardner = fast
    Melky = not fast

    Fast players should reach for a triple, players that arent fast, stay for doubles. Would you say great idea if Molina went for a triple on a double in the gap and got out if he were the tying run?

    Melky had NO business going for a triple

  1035. Coach6423 May 5th, 2009 at 8:38 pm

    If you are barely thrown out at third with 1 out, with your AA Utility Player, and your back up catcher who is known for his glove and not his bat, it is absolutely the right play to try and stretch that.

  1036. Nick in SF May 5th, 2009 at 8:38 pm

    “we would be tied now but melky hAD to go.”

    dave, don’t you remember the first rule of being in a hole? It’s to stop digging. You’re in a hole now. Stop digging.

    You don’t know what would have happened if Melky had stayed at second. You also don’t know what would have happened if Melky had been safe at third. When you don’t know something but you pretend you do, it makes you look kind of silly.

  1037. PJH® May 5th, 2009 at 8:39 pm

    Man… I hope Joba is holding back here. 96? He is supposed to throw EVERY pitch 100 mph.

  1038. Terry from NH May 5th, 2009 at 8:39 pm

    Nice that made my night there…yessa!

  1039. All sorts of riffraff May 5th, 2009 at 8:39 pm

    I was going to make a joke as to where Al from BK went after Joba calmed down and we actually hit THEIR ACE, but he’s still exactly where he was.

    While I still want Dave Eiland hung by painful parts of his body off the Deegan, I sure love me some Joba when he’s on point.

    Let’s get this done.

  1040. CUYanks May 5th, 2009 at 8:39 pm

    The fact that it was THAT close with two perfect throws and perfect handling in the corner shows that it was obviously the right play. 1 out, two poor hitters coming up. Pete saying that is bad baserunning is fairly ridiculous. If he makes it, it’s great baserunning.

  1041. Pat M May 5th, 2009 at 8:40 pm

    Randy I, Doesn’t anyone know how to hook slide anymore….Do they still teach that…..

  1042. DYNASTY IS DESTINY! May 5th, 2009 at 8:40 pm

    Jobakkkkkkkkk!

  1043. RGR May 5th, 2009 at 8:40 pm

    “Man… I hope Joba is holding back here. 96? He is supposed to throw EVERY pitch 100 mph.”

    Joking right?

  1044. carl May 5th, 2009 at 8:40 pm

    He’s got that Johan Change !!!

  1045. Vin May 5th, 2009 at 8:41 pm

    man…joba is dealing..if only we can get him some more runs..hes battled for us

  1046. dave May 5th, 2009 at 8:41 pm

    joBA is looking effortless in his delivery right now and his velocity is back up. I dont think velocity is always a tell-tale sign of an injury. I think fans are being more cautious and rightfully so because we have had so many players recently trying to play through injury and assumed joba’s velocity may be a sign and it could be but its not because it wouldnt be fluctuating so much

  1047. carl May 5th, 2009 at 8:42 pm

    Hurt em joba!

  1048. Trevor May 5th, 2009 at 8:42 pm

    Otiz was out 3 times in that at bat.

  1049. dave May 5th, 2009 at 8:42 pm

    PLUNKED

  1050. Angel - A tale told by idiots, full of sound and fury - signifying nothing. May 5th, 2009 at 8:42 pm

    Yep, thats what my SIL said, SA.

    She’s sick to death of rain.

  1051. S.A.--It's a marathon, not a sprint. Calm down. May 5th, 2009 at 8:42 pm

    Walks Big Poopie

  1052. Uncle Ellsworth May 5th, 2009 at 8:42 pm

    HEY

    Joel Sherman just said Jeter is the Michael Corleone and Posada is the Sonny Corleone.

    lifted directly from this blog

  1053. PJH® May 5th, 2009 at 8:43 pm

    RgR- Ever heard of sarcasm?

  1054. Al from BK May 5th, 2009 at 8:43 pm

    Good hit Bay. The Umps should have given you the calls ;)

  1055. Boston Dave May 5th, 2009 at 8:43 pm

    Joba needs to settle down or he’s never gonna get the close calls. The umps have been correct and even gave him the close one on Pedroia.

  1056. Terry from NH May 5th, 2009 at 8:43 pm

    This start reminds me exactly of his last start in Detroit.. starts slow then starts dealing later on.. Now Bay gets plunked…nice.. Eck is crying on NESN saying it is intentional.. boo hoo!!

  1057. jennifer May 5th, 2009 at 8:43 pm

    bravo! not on purpose. but bravo.

  1058. StawthatStirs - Texeira pops out to.... May 5th, 2009 at 8:43 pm

    Coney?? No intention??? C’mon… good for Joba…

  1059. C May 5th, 2009 at 8:43 pm

    haha good that the yankee killer finally get plunked

  1060. Frank May 5th, 2009 at 8:44 pm

    Jeter’s gonna get it now

  1061. Angel - A tale told by idiots, full of sound and fury - signifying nothing. May 5th, 2009 at 8:44 pm

    Sheesh… he did NOT check his swing.

  1062. jennifer May 5th, 2009 at 8:45 pm

    Does MLB ever look at tape of how awful their umps are. You can fill a book with all the screw ups this series.

  1063. carl May 5th, 2009 at 8:45 pm

    Jose Veras are you serious :(

  1064. RGR May 5th, 2009 at 8:45 pm

    Its not the first time Melky has made bad baserunning mistakes either. The game that he won on a walk off in the 15th, he tried to steal 2nd base in the 7th inning where he would have scored along with Jeter, Pena, and Damon and we wouldnt have had to tire out all of our bullpen leading to an ugly sweep against the Red Sox.

  1065. S.A.--It's a marathon, not a sprint. Calm down. May 5th, 2009 at 8:45 pm

    strikes Jobber

  1066. Boston Dave May 5th, 2009 at 8:45 pm

    When asked what hitter gives Joba the most trouble, he answered “Mike Lowell”.

    I hope he’s not hitting guys on purpose to put two on to face his toughest out.

  1067. Terry from NH May 5th, 2009 at 8:45 pm

    Come on Joba K this ex-Yankee…

  1068. Al from BK May 5th, 2009 at 8:45 pm

    Veras warming. I’m gonna lose it if he comes in. Let Joba pitch! or put him in the pen! PICK ONE!

  1069. PJH® May 5th, 2009 at 8:45 pm

    Angel- I would say that it was very close. Not a bad call.

  1070. PJH® May 5th, 2009 at 8:45 pm

    Angel- I would say that it was very close. Not a bad call.

  1071. Jay May 5th, 2009 at 8:45 pm

    OK, for those of us in the Boston area where we have to put up with the dreaded NESN feed, who the hell is doing color commentary in place of Remy today? His blatant bias against the Yankees is making me puke.

  1072. How ya doin? how how ya doin? May 5th, 2009 at 8:45 pm

    JOSE VERAS!? NOOO

  1073. DYNASTY IS DESTINY! May 5th, 2009 at 8:46 pm

    JobaKKKKKKKKKK!

  1074. carl May 5th, 2009 at 8:46 pm

    Yeah JOba!!!

  1075. C May 5th, 2009 at 8:46 pm

    Joba ks 10 in 5 inning Hahahahahahaha

  1076. Benny Blanco May 5th, 2009 at 8:46 pm

    10K’s wow

  1077. Spiced Ham May 5th, 2009 at 8:46 pm

    Jose Veras coming in to crap on everything.

  1078. Rishi May 5th, 2009 at 8:46 pm

    jennifer
    May 5th, 2009 at 8:45 pm
    Does MLB ever look at tape of how awful their umps are. You can fill a book with all the screw ups this series.
    ~*~*~*~*~*~

    I’ve asked this a lot, apparently they look at games in “groups” and there is no real penalty, just “development points”…I don’t think most of us can be that much off without some sort of penalty…not sure how that works for Umps

  1079. Terry from NH May 5th, 2009 at 8:46 pm

    Nice show some emotion out there Joba.. 10 K’s thru 5.. Now comes the lashback.. this is gonna get ugly real quick.. DO we agree????

  1080. RGR May 5th, 2009 at 8:46 pm

    “RgR- Ever heard of sarcasm?”

    That would be why I said…”Joking Right?”

    Cant 100% sense sarcasm over the internet, so I asked

  1081. randy l. May 5th, 2009 at 8:46 pm

    ” I thought the Sox had the intelligence and methodology to prevent injuries. And Youkilis too, last night. What can we believe in?”

    joe-

    you can’t prevent injuries, but you can minimize them. the yankees just seem to get more than their share of them for some reason.

  1082. Paranoid Android May 5th, 2009 at 8:46 pm

    ballsy showing by Joba tonight.

  1083. trisha - click to see my bigger and better Opening Day pictures May 5th, 2009 at 8:47 pm

    Sweet having to appeal to that paragon of fairness and Yankee love, Jerry Meals.

    AND I LOVE WHAT JOBA JUST DID ON THE MOUND.

    Now, what will faust do to the Yankees? NESN showed him in the dugout and you know the wheels were turning.

    Stay tuned.

  1084. trisha - click to see my bigger and better Opening Day pictures May 5th, 2009 at 8:47 pm

    Sweet having to appeal to that paragon of fairness and Yankee love, Jerry Meals.

    AND I LOVE WHAT JOBA JUST DID ON THE MOUND.

    Now, what will faust do to the Yankees? NESN showed him in the dugout and you know the wheels were turning.

    Stay tuned.

  1085. S.A.--It's a marathon, not a sprint. Calm down. May 5th, 2009 at 8:47 pm

    Yep, thats what my SIL said, SA.

    She’s sick to death of rain.

    ===========================

    So am I Angel. This rain is depressing. Though it seems to have stopped for now! :)

  1086. EvoLuTioN May 5th, 2009 at 8:47 pm

    joba PUT life in this team by not only settling down, but just DOMINATING the sox

  1087. Tex's friend (Best 5 ever) May 5th, 2009 at 8:47 pm

    please dont go to verA$$

  1088. Tim May 5th, 2009 at 8:47 pm

    we really need to get Joba some runs now. He is dealing out there.

  1089. C May 5th, 2009 at 8:47 pm

    when Veras COmes in it will turn into blow out

  1090. RGR May 5th, 2009 at 8:47 pm

    This is why Joba is NEEDED in the rotation

    ps: Listen to Mike Francessa tomorrow at 1pm as the fist pump will lead off the show tomorrow

  1091. Boston Dave May 5th, 2009 at 8:47 pm

    last 4 innings

    1 hit, 10K

    what happened to all the Joba to the pen posts?

  1092. Al from BK May 5th, 2009 at 8:47 pm

    We need the lead and now, Veras is giving up at least 2 when he comes in.

  1093. stuart May 5th, 2009 at 8:47 pm

    joba = somebody is gonna get hurt!

  1094. Dan May 5th, 2009 at 8:47 pm

    Please let him pitch another inning…he’s dealing

  1095. Rishi May 5th, 2009 at 8:48 pm

    run, need runs…c’mon – this is doable

  1096. S.A.--It's a marathon, not a sprint. Calm down. May 5th, 2009 at 8:48 pm

    10 SOs for Jobber. Well done!

  1097. randy l. May 5th, 2009 at 8:48 pm

    ECK flipping out over joba drilling bay on purpose.

    i think joba has a mean streak in him :)

    beckett is going to retaliate. it’s in his dna.
    going to happen.

  1098. KO May 5th, 2009 at 8:48 pm

    PA bad base running mistake yeah right bro… it took 2 perfect throws and they still barely got him…. and i dont mean just good i mean perfect… the Yankees dont mind that play by Melky at all

  1099. ALB3 May 5th, 2009 at 8:48 pm

    This is the most exciting Yankees game of the year with Joba dealing.

    I am having too much fun watching!

  1100. Boston Dave May 5th, 2009 at 8:48 pm

    As long as Beckett doesn’t head hunt, go ahead and put a man on in a 1-run game.

    The Yankees have the momentum…

  1101. Pat M May 5th, 2009 at 8:49 pm

    Nice numbers, but he’s done for the night

  1102. Tom in N.J. May 5th, 2009 at 8:49 pm

    C’mon!

    Where the optimists at?

  1103. Trevor May 5th, 2009 at 8:49 pm

    Vares? Still not using Melancon I see…

  1104. Tex's friend (Best 5 ever) May 5th, 2009 at 8:49 pm

    will beckett hit johnny or tex?

  1105. Al from BK May 5th, 2009 at 8:49 pm

    Nice ground out captain.

  1106. dave May 5th, 2009 at 8:49 pm

    Nick,

    I wasnt pretending to know what would have happened. I am just saying that pena was safe and then reached second in the next at bat and in that case, melky may have scored. And there was how many outs before that out? I think it was zero. So if melky stayed at second, there would have been a whole inning worth of at bats for him to score. I just dont think him reaching third was all that important and as the tying run, him running himself into an out was important. If that is the last batter the yanks have on third – it will look like a really stupid move. Thats all Im saying. Its fine to disagree but i dont like when people are nasty in their retorts to my comments like the one above from coach. Ive been watching baseball since I was 5 years old – I dont need some person i dont know telling me to learn how to play the game.

  1107. Terry from NH May 5th, 2009 at 8:49 pm

    Geez Jeter!!

  1108. C May 5th, 2009 at 8:50 pm

    VERAS better not come in

  1109. jennifer May 5th, 2009 at 8:50 pm

    Does Jobbers first inning have to count?

  1110. NongEyeJon May 5th, 2009 at 8:50 pm

    Please tell me that Jose Veras is not coming in…I mean, really.

  1111. Wang IS Taiwan May 5th, 2009 at 8:51 pm

    Veras so sucks. What’s Girardi’s problem? Does he TRY to lose games? It’s not like he’s used up everyone else already in the game.

  1112. randy l. May 5th, 2009 at 8:51 pm

    if there’s two outs , teixeira may be baptized.

  1113. Benny Blanco May 5th, 2009 at 8:51 pm

    come on tex….

  1114. C May 5th, 2009 at 8:51 pm

    If veras comes in he will walk the lead off man

  1115. jennifer May 5th, 2009 at 8:51 pm

    He’ll drill Tex here. Hope he has quick feet.

  1116. pc69 May 5th, 2009 at 8:52 pm

    If CC and Burnett can replicate the Joba from the 2nd inning on, Yankees will be in first by the end of june with a 5 game lead.

  1117. Boston Dave May 5th, 2009 at 8:52 pm

    dave,

    there was 1 out.

    it wasnt a terrible move to go for 3rd simply, as stated, because it was PEna and Molina coming up.

    otherwise I’d have preferred he stayed at 2nd.

  1118. C May 5th, 2009 at 8:52 pm

    Teixeria i want a tex message from you

  1119. Al from BK May 5th, 2009 at 8:52 pm

    “Please tell me that Jose Veras is not coming in…I mean, really.”

    He is Girardi’s man-crush, he will only stop using him when they decide to DFA him.

  1120. trisha - click to see my bigger and better Opening Day pictures May 5th, 2009 at 8:52 pm

    Please I ask just one favor. And of course you don’t have to comply. If we have a relief pitcher coming in, no matter who it is, can you just give the person a chance? Instead of spewing all negativity, can you just button it and actually give the person a chance?

    It would be so nice if for once everyone just held off on trashing our guys. Just once. Of course I would prefer you don’t trash them at all, but I know that’s not realistic.

    Thanks.

    (My fear after Melky hit the Amish farmer was that Beckett might come in and bear down.)

  1121. jennifer May 5th, 2009 at 8:53 pm

    basehit for tex.

  1122. BR May 5th, 2009 at 8:53 pm

    Wow. These umpires have been horrendously horendous this whole series. I was just about to ask who is on 3rd that can be as bad as the homeplate guy was last night, but I checked gameday. Its Jerry Meals, the same guy that was on home last night. I think we can all come to an agreement that plunking the batters isnt what should be done by Joba, unless its Ortiz or Youkilis. Joba should be throwing the fastballs at todays 3rd base umpire. The guy needs some help, because his performance has been worse than that crews was in the Seattle series a few years back when they called the guy safe at 2nd when Posada had him out by a mile and a half. That crew was pretty bad, but Jerry Meals is outdoing them. Its pitiful. Maybe the Yankees should have another meeting with the MLB, like they did last year.

    I sincerely hope that Girardi sits Veras down, and keeps Joba in there.

  1123. S.A.--It's a marathon, not a sprint. Calm down. May 5th, 2009 at 8:53 pm

    ps: Listen to Mike Francessa tomorrow at 1pm as the fist pump will lead off the show tomorrow

    ==========================

    LOL
    He probably will lead off with that

    “Folks, this idear that Jobber is doing a little fist pump after striking out Lowell in da 5th aftah giving up 4 runs in the 1st is udderly disgraceful and not the Yankee way.”

  1124. C May 5th, 2009 at 8:53 pm

    thats the kind of hit that starts a streak?

  1125. RGR May 5th, 2009 at 8:53 pm

    Tex-Er-Ria

  1126. trisha - click to see my bigger and better Opening Day pictures May 5th, 2009 at 8:53 pm

    Aboout Tex getting booed. He has to think that Yankee fans are total losers when he got booed for striking out tonight, after hitting two homers last night.

    It is kind of pathetic.

  1127. Tom in N.J. May 5th, 2009 at 8:54 pm

    C’mon Matsui

  1128. Nick in SF May 5th, 2009 at 8:54 pm

    Yes, dave, Melky may have scored if he had remained at second base. Perhaps Pena and Molina would have hit back-to-back homers had Melky not gone for third. Or perhaps Pena would have struck out. No way to know, is there?

    So saying “we would be tied now but melky hAD to go” is incorrect.

  1129. Chubbo May 5th, 2009 at 8:55 pm

    I think Beckett wants his W.

    I’m shocked he didn’t hit Johnny or Tex.

  1130. jennifer May 5th, 2009 at 8:55 pm

    I guarantee you Mike will lead off his show talking about the fist pump.

  1131. RGR May 5th, 2009 at 8:55 pm

    LOL
    He probably will lead off with that
    “Folks, this idear that Jobber is doing a little fist pump after striking out Lowell in da 5th aftah giving up 4 runs in the 1st is udderly disgraceful and not the Yankee way.”

    ————————————–

    I can come as close as I can to guaranteeing that he will mention it when he talks about the Yankees tomorrow. Its probably killing him right now to see Joba dominating the “far superior” Red Sox team

  1132. Rob Thompson May 5th, 2009 at 8:55 pm

    I blame Joshie Boy for Bay getting hit. If he wasn’t a first class a-hole, Joba wouldn’t have had to pitch inside like that.

  1133. Angel - A tale told by idiots, full of sound and fury - signifying nothing. May 5th, 2009 at 8:56 pm

    They’re hitting Beckett pretty well.

  1134. Rishi May 5th, 2009 at 8:57 pm

    please keep joba in there – it’s the bottom 4 in the line up…go batter by batter, whatever

  1135. Trevor May 5th, 2009 at 8:57 pm

    Beckett likely waiting more towards the end of the game to hit a Yankee.
    Why do it now in the 5th when if the ump thinks you did it on purpose you get thrown out?

  1136. Angel - A tale told by idiots, full of sound and fury - signifying nothing. May 5th, 2009 at 8:57 pm

    There is no kind of about it.

    It’s pitiful, petty and smacks of two-year old tantrums at the impulse bar in Target.

  1137. Rishi May 5th, 2009 at 8:58 pm

    I don’t think Beckett last more than 1 inning or so

  1138. Angel - A tale told by idiots, full of sound and fury - signifying nothing. May 5th, 2009 at 8:58 pm

    Lets go, Jobber!

  1139. Chubbo May 5th, 2009 at 8:58 pm

    “ideear” “Jobber”

    Excellent hah!!

    I hate Francessa on this issue.

  1140. Boston Dave May 5th, 2009 at 8:58 pm

    “Aboout Tex getting booed. He has to think that Yankee fans are total losers when he got booed for striking out tonight, after hitting two homers last night.

    It is kind of pathetic.”

    ———

    I agree. I am ashamed when this stuff happens. Of course, Yankee fans want free agents to come to the Yankees and embrace the city.

    It doesn’t work that way. Treat players like crap and they’re either not going to want to come here or will want to be paid extra to do it.

  1141. Mclovin May 5th, 2009 at 8:58 pm

    Pete enough with the smart references on the Joba to the pen comments.You think you are so witty.

    Give him time to be a starter yes…but lets see if he can stay healthy first.Because the way this team going no one can stay healthy

  1142. Benny Blanco May 5th, 2009 at 8:58 pm

    Let him go to 120.

  1143. Vin May 5th, 2009 at 8:59 pm

    hes lost a little bit of velocity no?

  1144. NongEyeJon May 5th, 2009 at 8:59 pm

    Does anyone have Verizon FIOS? Because, they keep having commercials in the middle of innings. It is utterly ridiculous.

  1145. RGR May 5th, 2009 at 8:59 pm

    11 Ks…holy crap

  1146. Boston Dave May 5th, 2009 at 8:59 pm

    “I blame Joshie Boy for Bay getting hit. If he wasn’t a first class a-hole, Joba wouldn’t have had to pitch inside like that.”

    ——-

    or maybe he just missed with the pitch.

    I hope he didn’t mean to hit him because it would have been terrible timing.

  1147. dave May 5th, 2009 at 8:59 pm

    Nick,

    I just think the crucial point is that there was no outs before he got tagged out I believe and he was the tying run. So no matter who was batting directly behind him, I think the smart play would have been to stay at second and the yanks would have had three cracks of the bat for him to score from second. All Im saying is it will be really crappy if that turns out to be a crucial decision in the game. i JUST SAID if melky hadnt went it would be tied now because pena got a hit immediately following that play. If we assume he gets that hit, it could have been tied. If not, it wouldnt but i was implying that if melky had stayed with that hit, they would have been tied. Sorry for that as it was just in the heat of the moment.

  1148. Benny Blanco May 5th, 2009 at 8:59 pm

    wow

  1149. jennifer May 5th, 2009 at 8:59 pm

    What is the record for strike outs in a row?

  1150. randy l. May 5th, 2009 at 8:59 pm

    there is absolutely no way that beckett is not going to retaliate. next inning” who’s up?

    on the other hand beckett has that other suspension pending doesn’t he ?

    or if not, he’d be a repeat offender.

    maybe they told him not to and will have someone else do it.

    i can’t imagine there will not be retaliation this game. as long as it’s done with the precision joba did it with ,i have no problem with the red sox doing it.

    whoever gets hit should just take it and go to first.

    it’s just a part of the game.

    the point will have been sent to bay to take one part of the plate , but not all.

    i think it’s a worthwhile message to send.

  1151. DYNASTY IS DESTINY! May 5th, 2009 at 9:00 pm

    JobaKKKKKKKKKKK!

  1152. Ben May 5th, 2009 at 9:00 pm

    seriously YES keeps cutting to commercial mid-inning. Is this happening to anyone else?

  1153. Benny Blanco May 5th, 2009 at 9:00 pm

    still throwing hard at 100 plus

  1154. Zooboy May 5th, 2009 at 9:00 pm

    Too bad Joba’s not in the pen today; he could have come in in the second inning and avoided all that nonsense in the first.

  1155. Chubbo May 5th, 2009 at 9:00 pm

    Lost velocity?

    Is 95 > or < 89?

  1156. jennifer May 5th, 2009 at 9:00 pm

    After a very very bad first inning, he has had lots of easy innings. I know his pitch count is high, but let him try to finish the inning.

  1157. DMan77 May 5th, 2009 at 9:00 pm

    One bad pitch… One bad inning, hurts the Yankees here again.

    Sigh.

    Come on Yankees, don’t waste this performance.

  1158. Vin May 5th, 2009 at 9:00 pm

    is there a reason or is it normal that joba can go 89/90 mph one AB and then pump two 95s at the next guy?

  1159. randy l. May 5th, 2009 at 9:01 pm

    95mph from joba.
    now that’s interesting.

  1160. Boston Dave May 5th, 2009 at 9:01 pm

    “Give him time to be a starter yes…but lets see if he can stay healthy first.Because the way this team going no one can stay healthy”

    ——–

    so they should move Hughes to the bullpen too?

    he has had more injury issues that Joba.

  1161. DYNASTY IS DESTINY! May 5th, 2009 at 9:01 pm

    JobaKKKKKKKKKKKK!!!!!!!!!!!!

  1162. DYNASTY IS DESTINY! May 5th, 2009 at 9:01 pm

    JobaKKKKKKKKKKKK!!!!!!!!!!!!

  1163. NongEyeJon May 5th, 2009 at 9:01 pm

    Joba might be into it, but its a bit too late, now considering the Yanks are about to get into the BoSox bullpen. 12k’s might not mean anything.

  1164. Tom in N.J. May 5th, 2009 at 9:01 pm

    Last 2 starts Joba has gotten stronger as the game went on.

  1165. dave May 5th, 2009 at 9:01 pm

    HE IS ON FIRE

  1166. carl May 5th, 2009 at 9:01 pm

    omg this is stupid crazy

  1167. Dan May 5th, 2009 at 9:01 pm

    WOW

  1168. Al from BK May 5th, 2009 at 9:01 pm

    I hate Joe.

  1169. Uncle Ellsworth May 5th, 2009 at 9:01 pm

    is that 12 Ks?

  1170. gurinder May 5th, 2009 at 9:01 pm

    u noe why joba startin throwin a lil soft .. cause aj told himm to mix it up .. and so he cud save his armm

  1171. Devon May 5th, 2009 at 9:01 pm

    Wow Joe are you serious? Watch the pen give up 10 runs

  1172. Vin May 5th, 2009 at 9:01 pm

    jeeez 12 K’s

  1173. JR May 5th, 2009 at 9:01 pm

    what the hell joe!!! leave him in, let us score a run and get a win

  1174. RGR May 5th, 2009 at 9:01 pm

    Calling a leadoff double here off Veras

  1175. S.A.--It's a marathon, not a sprint. Calm down. May 5th, 2009 at 9:01 pm

    ooooohhh Jobber. :)

  1176. Tex's friend (Best 5 ever) May 5th, 2009 at 9:02 pm

    let jobber keep pitching.

  1177. dave May 5th, 2009 at 9:02 pm

    WHo the heck is coming in again? This cant be good.

  1178. Trevor May 5th, 2009 at 9:02 pm

    What the hell Girardi?

  1179. Mark-Cant Touch This May 5th, 2009 at 9:02 pm

    At least veras can’t walk the leadoff batter lol

  1180. Boston Dave May 5th, 2009 at 9:02 pm

    more than anything else,

    it’s great to see Joba getting so amped up out there.

    I missed that!

  1181. rodney May 5th, 2009 at 9:02 pm

    holy crap! joe girardi what are you thinking?

  1182. Rishi May 5th, 2009 at 9:02 pm

    let him K the captain – c’mon

  1183. jennifer May 5th, 2009 at 9:02 pm

    So who said that Joba can’t maintain velocity at 100 pitches? Anyone care to raise their hand?

  1184. Spiced Ham May 5th, 2009 at 9:03 pm

    Girardi is a clown

  1185. Tex's friend (Best 5 ever) May 5th, 2009 at 9:03 pm

    why take him out? he struck out green twice.

  1186. Vin May 5th, 2009 at 9:03 pm

    oh bleep..its jose home run veras

  1187. Bronx Jeers May 5th, 2009 at 9:03 pm

    What!

    Oh I hate these pitch counts sometimes.

    Joba was on fire after forgetting that the first inning counts.

    If Veras comes in I’ll scream.

  1188. Jeff NJ May 5th, 2009 at 9:03 pm

    TAKE OFF THE HANDCUFFS AND LET JOBA PITCH ALREADY. I am so sick of the babying of this guy. And why not being in a better pitcher than Veras? Like Melancon. Damnit Girardi.

  1189. Benny Blanco May 5th, 2009 at 9:03 pm

    what are you doing?????? he was cruising. Come on Giradi!!!!!

  1190. randy l. May 5th, 2009 at 9:03 pm

    i really like how joba got animated and took it to the red sox.

    i’m still concerned with his velocity, but you have to love the intensity.

  1191. Chubbo May 5th, 2009 at 9:03 pm

    Now Jobber can’t get the W…

    SHame on you Joe.

  1192. BR May 5th, 2009 at 9:03 pm

    Im done with Girardi. No reason to take him out there. Joba was dominating them. They looked wose than foolish out there. Pitiful, pitiful, pitiful. Not only that, he puts in Veras whose only good game was in the extra inning win against Oakland.

  1193. Rishi May 5th, 2009 at 9:03 pm

    does he want to start Veras off “easy”…I just don’t get it

  1194. Paranoid Android May 5th, 2009 at 9:03 pm

    Too many “Singys” from Cone tonight

    all kinds of messed-up

    I’m just waiting for the Armageddon when “Singy” and “Flash” work the same game with Cone

    drinking games from hell

  1195. jennifer May 5th, 2009 at 9:03 pm

    Joe is certifiable. Totally insane for removing him from game. Let him finish the inning.

  1196. S.A.--It's a marathon, not a sprint. Calm down. May 5th, 2009 at 9:04 pm

    Veras time. :shock:

    Let us bow our heads and pray

  1197. Tex's friend (Best 5 ever) May 5th, 2009 at 9:04 pm

    this makes absolutely no sense. one more batter.

  1198. JoeyA May 5th, 2009 at 9:04 pm

    That is a terrible call. It’s not like you’re going to someone dependable. Let him finish the inning. One batter isn’t going to hamper his growth.

  1199. Rishi May 5th, 2009 at 9:04 pm

    he was at 108 – what the heck kind of limit is that – at least let him try to get ‘tek

  1200. trisha - click to see my bigger and better Opening Day pictures May 5th, 2009 at 9:04 pm

    It looks like it’s pouring out there now. We need to tie that score or take the lead

  1201. jennifer May 5th, 2009 at 9:04 pm

    I think Joe didn’t want Jobber pitching in the pouring rain. that is why he brought in Veras.

  1202. Pasqua May 5th, 2009 at 9:05 pm

    And that, kids, is how pitch counts ruined baseball…

  1203. Boston Dave May 5th, 2009 at 9:05 pm

    you either have some sort of limit on Joba or you don’t.

    they have a limit and took him out.

    If Joba hadn’t struggled in the 1st inning, he’d have been able to go 7 tonight.

  1204. dave May 5th, 2009 at 9:05 pm

    that melky to third is looming large right now – coach thinks i know nothing about baseball but that may be a huge play.

  1205. Angel - A tale told by idiots, full of sound and fury - signifying nothing. May 5th, 2009 at 9:05 pm

    Crossing herself frantically.

  1206. Al from BK May 5th, 2009 at 9:05 pm

    I want Pete to ask Girardi what kind of dirt Veras has on him. This is ridiculous, if Veras gives it up here I want Joe fired.

  1207. carl May 5th, 2009 at 9:05 pm

    omg veras got an out

  1208. Angel - A tale told by idiots, full of sound and fury - signifying nothing. May 5th, 2009 at 9:05 pm

    whew.

  1209. JoshWhite May 5th, 2009 at 9:06 pm

    i am so angry

  1210. C May 5th, 2009 at 9:06 pm

    He only want veras for 1 out i guess

  1211. C May 5th, 2009 at 9:06 pm

    He only want veras for 1 out i guess

  1212. jennifer May 5th, 2009 at 9:06 pm

    In MLB, that is Hall of Famer Tom Seaver who struckout 10 consecutive San Diego Padres on April 22, 1970.

  1213. Ben May 5th, 2009 at 9:06 pm

    I dont mind the move to save his arm and all but you take away his W if we come back this inning.

  1214. RGR May 5th, 2009 at 9:06 pm

    The Red Sox have won in every other way, so how about them winning by a game thats called early?

  1215. Vin May 5th, 2009 at 9:06 pm

    i know it’s too soon to call veras’s outing a success…but he got an out!!! its a freakin success

  1216. trisha - click to see my bigger and better Opening Day pictures May 5th, 2009 at 9:06 pm

    And that’s why I say you should always give a guy a chance.

  1217. Spiced Ham May 5th, 2009 at 9:06 pm

    FIRE JOE. Please

  1218. jennifer May 5th, 2009 at 9:07 pm

    How many did Jobber have in a row? he either tied it or beat it.

  1219. Betsy May 5th, 2009 at 9:07 pm

    Ridiculous – ok, if you want take Joba out, but Veras? Does Joe want to win games or not? This is NOT the time to try and get him straightened out – this might be the dumbest move I’ve ever seen. I’d rather see Robertson/Melancon/ME out there………I’m beginning to get quite annoyed with Joe.

  1220. Boston Dave May 5th, 2009 at 9:07 pm

    trisha is right.

    It’s never surprising when the Yanks get screwed.

    They need to score here!

  1221. Jeff NJ May 5th, 2009 at 9:07 pm

    great job joba

  1222. Terry from NH May 5th, 2009 at 9:07 pm

    Joba has impressed me over the last couple starts.. So what he had a bad first inning. He was nibbling and finding his way, but when he asserts himself he can dominate (when he uses his velocity).. No doubt in my mind he is a starter. Just needs to cut his pitch count down.

  1223. Nick in SF May 5th, 2009 at 9:07 pm

    dave: there was one out, not no outs. With no outs he stays at second, or should. With one out it’s arguably worth the gamble if it takes two good throws to get him and it’s still a bang-bang play.

    And you can’t assume anything. That’s a sucker’s game.

  1224. randy l. May 5th, 2009 at 9:07 pm

    “more than anything else,
    it’s great to see Joba getting so amped up out there.
    I missed that!”

    boston dave-

    my feelings exactly.

    by the way, you have passed sj44 for the most comments and replies on this game post 62-58

    ypu’re on fire. no one will catch you tonight.

    just kidding.

    all good stuff.

  1225. stuart May 5th, 2009 at 9:07 pm

    BR are you retarded? The guy threw 108 pitches, he is 23, and on pitch count.. RELAX>>

    yea for all the put him in the pen baffoons, guys like this do not grow on tree’s..3.77 ERA and he has not even pitched well yet this year………………

    yea Buckholtz and Lester have more upside!!!!Give me a break……

  1226. Terry from NH May 5th, 2009 at 9:08 pm

    You gotta love those Bruins commercials on NESN with the bear though.. pretty funny stuff!

  1227. S.A.--It's a marathon, not a sprint. Calm down. May 5th, 2009 at 9:08 pm

    Whew!

  1228. dave May 5th, 2009 at 9:08 pm

    Veras has 9 hits and 9 walks in 12 innings. Thats 18 baserunners in 12 innings – i hope he is done for the night in a one run game

  1229. Tex's friend (Best 5 ever) May 5th, 2009 at 9:08 pm

    score now before the game is called

  1230. Bronx Jeers May 5th, 2009 at 9:08 pm

    Joba looked deep into the abyss and guess who was staring back at him?

    http://tinyurl.com/d3ulcx

  1231. Angel - A tale told by idiots, full of sound and fury - signifying nothing. May 5th, 2009 at 9:09 pm

    Does the rain look like its staying around?

  1232. aronik May 5th, 2009 at 9:09 pm

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/José_Veras

    says it all

    He has been known in the 2009 season as one of Joe Girardi’s favorite options out of the bullpen for no apparent reason because he is awful and has a era over 8.

  1233. Rob Thompson May 5th, 2009 at 9:09 pm

    In all my years of watching baseball, I have never seen a young phenom explode on the scene like Joba has. Throw out the first inning, he was just getting loosed up. He is going to go down as one of the great, great Yankees. Heard it here first.

  1234. MdC May 5th, 2009 at 9:09 pm

    “Watch the pen give up 10 runs”

    That’s it…way to stay positive!

  1235. Terry from NH May 5th, 2009 at 9:09 pm

    Wow Cano first pitch swinging and didn’t even run that out hard.. Not good there at all..

  1236. rconn23 May 5th, 2009 at 9:09 pm

    If Veras blows up this game, he’s got to go.

    The team is energized after this performance and they’ve got to put up some runs. It’s called momentum and the Yankees have to seize it.

  1237. Boston Dave May 5th, 2009 at 9:09 pm

    The one thing about Varitek is he primarily only feasts on straight fastballs. Make a mistake and he can drive it.

    At least Veras gets good movement which would give Tek trouble if he could throw strikes.

    Thankfully Veras did. It’s not a terrible matchup for Veras, as always, if he can get the ball over the plate.

  1238. JoshWhite May 5th, 2009 at 9:10 pm

    jennifer, he had 8 in a row.

    i don’t understand. why can’t he get one more. 6 more pitches isn’t going to break the guy.

  1239. dave May 5th, 2009 at 9:10 pm

    stuart -

    must you personally insult every single person you disagree with? I’ll give you a free tip – your point will be just as effective or maybe even moreso if you leave out the personal assaults and just make your point.

  1240. Doreen May 5th, 2009 at 9:10 pm

    randy l

    Livan is pitching a shutout.

  1241. Boston Dave May 5th, 2009 at 9:11 pm

    “by the way, you have passed sj44 for the most comments and replies on this game post 62-58

    ypu’re on fire. no one will catch you tonight.”

    ——-

    LOL. I’m sitting in a chair at Starbucks in Modesto, CA watching mlb.tv….

    what else am I gonna do? :)

  1242. Angel - A tale told by idiots, full of sound and fury - signifying nothing. May 5th, 2009 at 9:11 pm

    8 in a row, I think, Jen.

  1243. Uncle Ellsworth May 5th, 2009 at 9:11 pm

    Swisher…sweet

  1244. jennifer May 5th, 2009 at 9:11 pm

    josh- oh I thought he had 10 my bad.

  1245. Trevor May 5th, 2009 at 9:11 pm

    Joe acting like the other Joe with his refusal to use kids.
    You can not put Veras in a 1 run game against the RS.

  1246. dave May 5th, 2009 at 9:11 pm

    rconn,

    veras should not even be allowed to blow up this game. I hope his night is over. He has had 18 baserunners in 12 innings. That is a perfect reason not to pitch him in a one run game

  1247. Bo knows May 5th, 2009 at 9:11 pm

    That was a beautiful game pitched by Joba. He had a rough start but you can literally see him develop before your eyes. Twelve SO’s of Boston is impressive but using all his pitches was really great. He also ran it up there at 95, 96 on occasion. At least 3 of the SO’s were on changups. Maybe it’s growing pains but that was some awesome pitching.

  1248. randy l. May 5th, 2009 at 9:11 pm

    “he was at 108 – what the heck kind of limit is that – at least let him try to get ‘tek”

    it might have been the rain too. no sense taking a chance of slipping with joba.

  1249. Nick in SF May 5th, 2009 at 9:13 pm

    Supposedly the coldest winter Joba ever spent was a summer on the Winnebago reservation.

  1250. Boston Dave May 5th, 2009 at 9:13 pm

    “i don’t understand. why can’t he get one more. 6 more pitches isn’t going to break the guy.”

    ——

    perhaps… but I’m happy they let him go out there and get the 2 outs. I’m sure they knew he was only getting 10 or so pitches before he even went out for the 6th.

    It’s ok to question it… but they have a rule for Joba apparently and they’re gonna stick to it.

  1251. jennifer May 5th, 2009 at 9:13 pm

    UGH bounced in the seats. Swisher probably scores.

  1252. carl May 5th, 2009 at 9:13 pm

    God man I could have been tied

  1253. Tom in N.J. May 5th, 2009 at 9:13 pm

    Squeeze!

  1254. Bronx Jeers May 5th, 2009 at 9:13 pm

    How many times does that happen?

  1255. Betsy May 5th, 2009 at 9:13 pm

    I just don’t get Joe with Veras. He has the oddest way of showing the importance he places on winning (Damon last year in MN, Veras here…………he’s taken Veras on as his Farnsworth pet project it seems and he’s going to force the guy down our throats)

  1256. dave May 5th, 2009 at 9:13 pm

    damn stupid wall.

  1257. Uncle Ellsworth May 5th, 2009 at 9:13 pm

    grounds rule doubles – kill

  1258. Angel - A tale told by idiots, full of sound and fury - signifying nothing. May 5th, 2009 at 9:13 pm

    damn! just when you DON’T need a ground rule double.

  1259. Benny Blanco May 5th, 2009 at 9:13 pm

    melky is balling…wow. Some people have written him off.

  1260. JoeyA May 5th, 2009 at 9:13 pm

    Damn you ball!!!

  1261. RGR May 5th, 2009 at 9:14 pm

    Good night from Melky here. But such a disappointing hit (not his fault at all) but Swisher would have scored if it didnt make that big bounce

  1262. Tom in N.J. May 5th, 2009 at 9:14 pm

    Stalling for the rain

  1263. AD May 5th, 2009 at 9:14 pm

    The ground rule double screwed us so many time this year. Ugh.

  1264. Nick in SF May 5th, 2009 at 9:14 pm

    UGH, once again the Yankes lead the universe in ground-rule doubles that should have scored a run! :(

  1265. Angel - A tale told by idiots, full of sound and fury - signifying nothing. May 5th, 2009 at 9:14 pm

    They guy got the out. Is there really a shortage of whining about here that there needs to be more whining about a moot point?

  1266. Al from BK May 5th, 2009 at 9:15 pm

    Great put the tarp on during a rally!

  1267. JoeyA May 5th, 2009 at 9:15 pm

    Raise the walls….

    …this is the most amount of ground-ruled doubles in the first 11 games of any stadium!!

    This is an outrage! :)

  1268. randy l. May 5th, 2009 at 9:15 pm

    the kid can do it. he just needs to get the bat on the ball.

  1269. Paranoid Android May 5th, 2009 at 9:15 pm

    Hey, Beckett really keeps the game moving along

    by the time Varitek finishes his one-man pat-a-cake Beckett seems to have fallen into a catatonic stupor

    and then he just shuffles around the mound for a few minutes

  1270. dave May 5th, 2009 at 9:15 pm

    leave it to meals to call for a delay with a yankee on third in the middle of the inning. He can be the center of attention both nights.

  1271. randy l. May 5th, 2009 at 9:15 pm

    suicide

  1272. Boston Dave May 5th, 2009 at 9:15 pm

    unbelievable

    have the Yankees doubled once this season with a guy on 1st without it being a ground-rule?

  1273. Rishi May 5th, 2009 at 9:15 pm

    c’mon Pena…

  1274. trisha - click to see my bigger and better Opening Day pictures May 5th, 2009 at 9:15 pm

    Presenting MY DA MELK!!!!

    Okay, please God, we gotta plate some runs here. Even one. GOTTA

    Thanks

  1275. carl May 5th, 2009 at 9:16 pm

    Molina is in the hole!!!!!!!! NOOOO!!!

  1276. chris nj May 5th, 2009 at 9:16 pm

    joe most likelywanted joba to get a standing O, to get his confidence up for next time. managers do that all the time.

    as far as the pitch count, he has to be regulated out there. you can’t have a young SP in the rain throw 125 pitches. that is the kind of load that will damage a career, ala prior, bonderman ect…

    joe did the right thing

  1277. Tom in N.J. May 5th, 2009 at 9:16 pm

    C’mon kid

  1278. Boston Dave May 5th, 2009 at 9:16 pm

    “by the time Varitek finishes his one-man pat-a-cake Beckett seems to have fallen into a catatonic stupor”

    ——

    hahaha, so true, so true.

  1279. dave May 5th, 2009 at 9:16 pm

    pitchet beckett pitchhhhh

  1280. Rishi May 5th, 2009 at 9:16 pm

    does Meals get paid extra for making himself part of the story?

  1281. rconn23 May 5th, 2009 at 9:16 pm

    Melky with a nice piece of hitting there. Just bad luck.

    Someone has got to find a way to get this run in.

  1282. jennifer May 5th, 2009 at 9:16 pm

    Boy that Danny is like a machine!!

  1283. Vin May 5th, 2009 at 9:16 pm

    whats the delay..whats goin on..please no rain not now!!

  1284. Tom in N.J. May 5th, 2009 at 9:17 pm

    Randy, great call. Get that run in before the rain delay.

  1285. Terry from NH May 5th, 2009 at 9:17 pm

    Can you believe this crap.. working the mound? Where’s the homefield advantage there? Baby Beckett blaming the rain.

  1286. randy l. May 5th, 2009 at 9:17 pm

    pena can bunt. you never know.

  1287. Uncle Ellsworth May 5th, 2009 at 9:17 pm

    El Nino!
    Cinco de Mayo don’t ya know

  1288. Boston Dave May 5th, 2009 at 9:17 pm

    this is shaping up poorly…

  1289. Nick in SF May 5th, 2009 at 9:17 pm

    Boston Dave: if you’re in Modesto, you should take the tour of homes of the members of Pavement!

    Or were they from Stockton?

    Never mind.

    Modesto is pretty beat.

  1290. Rob Thompson May 5th, 2009 at 9:17 pm

    I hate everything about Beckett. Come on you punk! Throw the ball!!

  1291. Pat M May 5th, 2009 at 9:17 pm

    That call to pull him came from Cashamn, I’d being willing to bet on it…..

  1292. JoeyA May 5th, 2009 at 9:18 pm

    Are they really plugging WB Mason coffee??

    Where won’t this team go to raise money?

  1293. C May 5th, 2009 at 9:18 pm

    if they call time on the game they will have to wait at least 2-3 hours

  1294. Vin May 5th, 2009 at 9:18 pm

    dud whats goin on? is it rain?

  1295. S.A.--It's a marathon, not a sprint. Calm down. May 5th, 2009 at 9:18 pm

    fingers and toes crossed here

  1296. Joekuh - in absence of bridge, please jump into nearest puddle face-first May 5th, 2009 at 9:19 pm

    melk, keep it up and you will EARN your job back.

  1297. Terry from NH May 5th, 2009 at 9:19 pm

    just put the ball in play to the rights side please!!

  1298. Rob Thompson May 5th, 2009 at 9:19 pm

    If I was on that ground crew I would have thrown a mixture of quick sand and poop out there.

  1299. Betsy May 5th, 2009 at 9:19 pm

    Can’t take a chance on Joba getting hurt……..

  1300. Terry from NH May 5th, 2009 at 9:19 pm

    Damn that was outside.. ALDfja;lkrw;el

  1301. Al from BK May 5th, 2009 at 9:19 pm

    Ump is on the take.

  1302. Rob Thompson May 5th, 2009 at 9:19 pm

    Foot and 1/2 outside. He gets every call while Joba got squeezed all night.

  1303. carl May 5th, 2009 at 9:20 pm

    And that might be the inning.

  1304. dave May 5th, 2009 at 9:20 pm

    does anyone feel even remotely confident with veras in the next inning. I think he is our second riskiest of relievers

  1305. Al from BK May 5th, 2009 at 9:20 pm

    Thanks umpire for killing our rally! We need to contact the league.

  1306. Betsy May 5th, 2009 at 9:20 pm

    Can’t take a chance on Joba getting hurt…if it came from Cash, I don’t blame him

  1307. Spiced Ham May 5th, 2009 at 9:20 pm

    Another BS strike call, another wasted opportunity.

  1308. Terry from NH May 5th, 2009 at 9:20 pm

    Maybe Pena isn’t the answer!

  1309. Benny Blanco May 5th, 2009 at 9:20 pm

    Damn…

  1310. Vin May 5th, 2009 at 9:20 pm

    wow..thats just not fair

  1311. Tom in N.J. May 5th, 2009 at 9:20 pm

    Dave, there may not be a next inning…

  1312. NongEyeJon May 5th, 2009 at 9:20 pm

    Who didn’t see that happening. Again, thats what happens when you have a $200 million dollar team, and a $2 dollar bench.

  1313. Bronx Jeers May 5th, 2009 at 9:20 pm

    Damn, Pena was about to go on my future “clutch player to watch out for” list.

    Caught the reference Nick. Cheers.

  1314. Rishi May 5th, 2009 at 9:21 pm

    omg – that called strike was in Mexico

  1315. dave May 5th, 2009 at 9:21 pm

    came from cash?? ya think? I think it was joe

  1316. Al from BK May 5th, 2009 at 9:21 pm

    Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaghhhhh!!!!!!!

  1317. Rob Thompson May 5th, 2009 at 9:22 pm

    Seriously guys, is there someway that I, as a fan of the game I love, submit a formal protest with the league. The lack of respect shown by the umps against the Yanks is a joke.

  1318. randy l. May 5th, 2009 at 9:22 pm

    even eckersley said that the 2-1 pitch was a ball. 3-1 would have been a big difference.

    i would have had him bunt on 2-0.
    wet grass.
    all kinds of things can happen.

  1319. Terry from NH May 5th, 2009 at 9:22 pm

    Could Molina be any slower?? OMG!

  1320. Angel - A tale told by idiots, full of sound and fury - signifying nothing. May 5th, 2009 at 9:22 pm

    Aww.

  1321. NongEyeJon May 5th, 2009 at 9:22 pm

    Appalling.

  1322. jennifer May 5th, 2009 at 9:22 pm

    For Joshy- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xjcnzUOjtcI

  1323. rconn23 May 5th, 2009 at 9:22 pm

    Beckett lucks out. Pathetic.

  1324. Nick in SF May 5th, 2009 at 9:22 pm

    Ok, that sucked, but it gets up through the bottom of the order and lets Jeter lead off the next inning. Sigh. Jorge, you are missed already.

  1325. Benny Blanco May 5th, 2009 at 9:22 pm

    Hi, my name is yankee fan! How much does a “big” hit cost?

  1326. Tex's friend (Best 5 ever) May 5th, 2009 at 9:22 pm

    well, why should anyone be surprised we didnt score with runners on. does anyone really expect us to score in these situations anymore?

  1327. spark May 5th, 2009 at 9:22 pm

    “thats what happens when you have a $200 million dollar team, and a $2 dollar bench.”

    that about sums it up.

  1328. Steve in MN May 5th, 2009 at 9:22 pm

    *&(%^&*&^%^&&$&^%&%&^%$&^%*(*()

  1329. Al from BK May 5th, 2009 at 9:22 pm

    “Who didn’t see that happening. Again, thats what happens when you have a $200 million dollar team, and a $2 dollar bench.”

    Umps screwed the kid in that at bat should have been 3-1.

  1330. Giuseppe Franco May 5th, 2009 at 9:22 pm

    Joba benefited from a wide zone too and couple of times.

    I don’t have any issues with it as long as wide strikes are called for both sides.

  1331. trisha - click to see my bigger and better Opening Day pictures May 5th, 2009 at 9:23 pm

    :(

    There is still plenty of time to win this game, thankfully, as long as we hold them. But I really wanted some runs.

    You need to plate runs with one out and runners on 2nd and 3rd. You REALLY need to plate runs with one out…

    :(

  1332. Rob Thompson May 5th, 2009 at 9:23 pm

    That pitch to Pena was at least 12 inches off the plate.

  1333. randy l. May 5th, 2009 at 9:23 pm

    “Could Molina be any slower??”

    now that he’s hurt himself falling on the ground , we may find out.

  1334. Mark-Cant Touch This May 5th, 2009 at 9:23 pm

    Well :(

  1335. Jeff NJ May 5th, 2009 at 9:23 pm

    Maybe the ump wants to get a good deal on some meth after the game

  1336. Ryan May 5th, 2009 at 9:23 pm

    why not safety/suicide squeeze with pena up?

  1337. Rishi May 5th, 2009 at 9:23 pm

    unbelievable…can Veras get 3 outs here quickly!

  1338. Paranoid Android May 5th, 2009 at 9:23 pm

    spontaneous cluster****

    at least it cleared Molina

  1339. S.A.--It's a marathon, not a sprint. Calm down. May 5th, 2009 at 9:24 pm

    :(

  1340. dave May 5th, 2009 at 9:24 pm

    I hate my life – what is wrong with hitting just once with a RISP. Is it possible for them?

  1341. Al from BK May 5th, 2009 at 9:24 pm

    Now Veras comes in and that’s the game.

  1342. RalphieD May 5th, 2009 at 9:24 pm

    its hard to expect a lot from pena and molina but :(

  1343. NongEyeJon May 5th, 2009 at 9:24 pm

    Does anyone remember when this team used to be so deep? Damn…those were the days. Not just 1-9…but the entire team.

  1344. Mike May 5th, 2009 at 9:24 pm

    Cashman is a sick joke of a GM. The depth on this team is beyond pathetic. Thats what happens when you punt lineup spots. they cost you runs and game. Fire the inept GM.

  1345. Giuseppe Franco May 5th, 2009 at 9:24 pm

    Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaghhhhh!!!!!!!

    ————

    I thought the game was over after the 1st inning?

    Why are you still here watching this mess?

  1346. Zooboy May 5th, 2009 at 9:24 pm

    Soulda pinch hit CC.

  1347. Spiced Ham May 5th, 2009 at 9:25 pm

    Red Sox poised to score 10 runs this inning and blow this game out of reach for good

  1348. Ryan May 5th, 2009 at 9:25 pm

    why do we even have a manager is baseball anymore

  1349. beedogs May 5th, 2009 at 9:25 pm

    it’s a good thing we let the game be decided by a bunch of fat, worthless pieces of crap who apparently have money riding on the outcome.

    great job again, umpires.

  1350. dave May 5th, 2009 at 9:25 pm

    All their runs have been homeruns this series right? So i dont think they have gotten a single clutch hit in about three straight games against the sox going back to last series. Thas just a guess.

  1351. carl May 5th, 2009 at 9:25 pm

    Why don’t you blame Molina for not getting it done.

  1352. NongEyeJon May 5th, 2009 at 9:25 pm

    Can we beat this team….once this year. I mean PLEASE, once.

  1353. RGR May 5th, 2009 at 9:26 pm

    What would be less painful

    Veras giving up 5 runs this inning

    or

    The game being called?

    Doesnt matter, since Veras is being taken out

  1354. Dan May 5th, 2009 at 9:26 pm

    To be fair, Joba got a lot of generous strike calls. This ump has been calling a wide strikezone the whole night.

  1355. Bronx Jeers May 5th, 2009 at 9:26 pm

    Veras is back!

    until his next appearance.

  1356. vin May 5th, 2009 at 9:26 pm

    Girardi sending both Joba and Veras out on high notes.

  1357. Pasqua May 5th, 2009 at 9:26 pm

    I hate the calls too, but you can’t blame the umps for the continued failings of the offense with RISP and less than 2 outs. You just can’t. As fans, we have to suck it up like the players and recognize that the fault lies with the team. A smaller strike zone doesn’t mean Pena gets the job done. As many of you have watched (for a long, long time) this lineup changes their approach, for the worse, in these situations.

  1358. M May 5th, 2009 at 9:27 pm

    It was not the ump just a terrible ab by Pena – he did not swing at a strike and Molina is useless. Bad break on the double but all in all a terrible job by Cashman in putting this team together.

    He has not had a bench in years and always has to deal w/ too many injuries.

    Frustrated – yeah but I am a Yankee fan living in NH and it sucks right now b/c the sox have a better GM, better manager and better players.

  1359. spark May 5th, 2009 at 9:27 pm

    Pena is not going to get calls from Beckett. I understand that. He did the best he could. But it’s hard trying to beat a team like the Red Sox with only 7 major leagues hitters in the line-up. You can only expect a couple hits a week from Pena & Molina.

  1360. Rishi May 5th, 2009 at 9:27 pm

    Ver as managed to get out Nick Green and Van Every – not exactly mashers

  1361. tishbi May 5th, 2009 at 9:27 pm

    The Yankees love to rip your heart out. Joba is bad in the first inning then he pulls you back in with 4 2/3 inning of brilliant ball.

    Johnny Damon gets 3 back in a blink and then the Yankees cant touch Becket who was defintley hittable tonight. Down 4 they get 3 but now they cant scratch out a single run to tie the game.

  1362. Benny Blanco May 5th, 2009 at 9:28 pm

    “Red Sox poised to score 10 runs this inning and blow this game out of reach for good.”

    Yes. Reverse pschology.

  1363. vin May 5th, 2009 at 9:28 pm

    Is Melancon up in the pen, btw?

  1364. dave May 5th, 2009 at 9:28 pm

    cANO is probably the only player who turns a season long hitting streak into an immediate slump. He is 0 for his last 11 since his hitting streak ended.

  1365. Giuseppe Franco May 5th, 2009 at 9:28 pm

    So is Melancon there just to rot or what?

    I bet Girardi uses Albaladejo in the 8th if he doesn’t stick with Coke.

  1366. Rishi May 5th, 2009 at 9:28 pm

    * sorry Veras got Tek and Green…mb (my bad)

  1367. vin May 5th, 2009 at 9:29 pm

    “Ver as managed to get out Nick Green and Van Every – not exactly mashers”

    I’ll take it, nonetheless.

  1368. Nick in SF May 5th, 2009 at 9:29 pm

    Ok, Boston Dave, Grandaddy is the band from Modesto, not Pavement. I hate it when I get my Central Valley indie bands mixed up.

    But here is something Modesto does have, via wikipedia:

    “Modesto is home to the YES (Youth Entertainment Stage) company, a nationally recognized program founded in 1992, which performs at Gallo Center for the Arts.”

    YES in Modesto? Boston Dave watching this game on the YES network? I’d say a win is in the stars. Just don’t leave town ’til it’s over, Dave.

  1369. Bronx Jeers May 5th, 2009 at 9:29 pm

    Swish and Melky were the depth.

    Nady hurts his arm. GGBG hits his weight and poof… Kiddie pool time.

  1370. dave May 5th, 2009 at 9:29 pm

    cOKE, Aceves, melancon and mo. Those are the only four pitchers who anyone still has confidence in.

  1371. trisha - click to see my bigger and better Opening Day pictures May 5th, 2009 at 9:29 pm

    carl, of course I wish Molina had gotten a hit, but it is always “easier” to plate a run when you have one out. Then all it takes is a sac fly.

  1372. Zooboy May 5th, 2009 at 9:29 pm

    I’d settle for Caldanato (sp?) as the GM right now.

  1373. Al from BK May 5th, 2009 at 9:29 pm

    Gotta be kidding me.

  1374. Giuseppe Franco May 5th, 2009 at 9:30 pm

    To be fair, Joba got a lot of generous strike calls. This ump has been calling a wide strikezone the whole night.

    ————

    Absolutely true.

    There’s no problem if the ump calls it the same for both sides.

  1375. Rob Thompson May 5th, 2009 at 9:30 pm

    I hate that little militant midget!! He’s a dinker and a dunker if ever I saw one.

  1376. RGR May 5th, 2009 at 9:30 pm

    Melky, learn from that baserunning.Pedroia could have made a stupid mistake and went to 3rd, but hes a smart baserunner

  1377. Jeff NJ May 5th, 2009 at 9:31 pm

    we are the champions
    we are the champions
    no time for stankees
    cause
    we are the champions

  1378. randy l. May 5th, 2009 at 9:32 pm

    spike lee getting rained on.

  1379. trisha - click to see my bigger and better Opening Day pictures May 5th, 2009 at 9:32 pm

    “Girardi sending both Joba and Veras out on high notes.”

    Yes. That’s part of being a good manager too.

  1380. Jack the Ripper May 5th, 2009 at 9:32 pm

    Can we please get Ruben Sierra on the line?

  1381. dave May 5th, 2009 at 9:32 pm

    YES – tonight was veras best outing in ages. Masterful pitch.

  1382. NongEyeJon May 5th, 2009 at 9:32 pm

    One thing I liked about Girardi last year was his handling of the bullpen, but has he become Joe Torre? I mean, why does he have Albaladejo up? Why not Melancon? If you’re not going to use these guys, send them down to get work and bring up worthless relievers. It’s just ridiculous to have these guys sit there.

  1383. Rob Thompson May 5th, 2009 at 9:32 pm

    Ortiz is an embarrasment – since they started testing his numbers have dropped through the floor. You can’t tell me he wasn’t juicing and juicing hard all those years.

  1384. Spiced Ham May 5th, 2009 at 9:33 pm

    Wow, no runs. Sweet

  1385. carl May 5th, 2009 at 9:33 pm

    GJ

  1386. Angel - A tale told by idiots, full of sound and fury - signifying nothing. May 5th, 2009 at 9:33 pm

    Nice job by Coke and Veras.

  1387. Donnie May 5th, 2009 at 9:34 pm

    Really, Jeff? Last I checked, the Phillies were the champions. If you’re going to troll, at least make sense.

  1388. Spiced Ham May 5th, 2009 at 9:34 pm

    “Jack the Ripper May 5th, 2009 at 9:32 pm

    Can we please get Ruben Sierra on the line?”

    You are awesome! I love Ruben Sierra :D

  1389. Adeel May 5th, 2009 at 9:34 pm

    This is where we get to Becket. Top of the lineup.

  1390. RGR May 5th, 2009 at 9:34 pm

    “Can we please get Ruben Sierra on the line?”

    We already have him. Hes disguised in Melky Cabrera’s body

  1391. Angel - A tale told by idiots, full of sound and fury - signifying nothing. May 5th, 2009 at 9:35 pm

    That can’t be the real “m”. Hers is usually lowercase.

  1392. GreenBeret7 May 5th, 2009 at 9:35 pm

    It’s rather difficult to have a bench for the last two years when the bench is playing in the game.

  1393. S.A.--It's a marathon, not a sprint. Calm down. May 5th, 2009 at 9:35 pm

    can we tie this game up. Please?

  1394. trisha - click to see my bigger and better Opening Day pictures May 5th, 2009 at 9:35 pm

    Nong, this isn’t the time to try out Melancon again. You don’t do it against Boston while they are one run ahead. I think you need to bring him in at a more auspicious time. For him and for the team.

  1395. Al from BK May 5th, 2009 at 9:36 pm

    Toronto won :(

  1396. Paranoid Android May 5th, 2009 at 9:36 pm

    I always thought we Yankee fans could bask when the day came that Manny & Ortiz weren’t gutting the Yanks.

    Now they are doing it in different ways. A clutch hit here, a pivotal stolen base there.

    In the end, this may be more insidious.

  1397. RGR May 5th, 2009 at 9:37 pm

    Jeter reaches for a hit

  1398. randy l. May 5th, 2009 at 9:37 pm

    “It’s rather difficult to have a bench for the last two years when the bench is playing in the game.”

    good point.

  1399. Angel - A tale told by idiots, full of sound and fury - signifying nothing. May 5th, 2009 at 9:37 pm

    Shhh – you can’t be pointing out facts like that, GB.

  1400. Benny Blanco May 5th, 2009 at 9:37 pm

    Derek is amazing.

  1401. NongEyeJon May 5th, 2009 at 9:37 pm

    Um..Trisha, so you leave it to Veras and Albaladejo? I don’t get the rationale.

  1402. Pasqua May 5th, 2009 at 9:37 pm

    Trisha- Melancon did make his debut against the Sox, in Fenway. So a call here wouldn’t really be out of the question, trailing or not.

  1403. Al from BK May 5th, 2009 at 9:37 pm

    Beckett out!

  1404. trisha - click to see my bigger and better Opening Day pictures May 5th, 2009 at 9:37 pm

    Angel, I was thinking the same thing, but then the person said he was in NH or something, so it definitely wasn’t someone trying to be our m.

  1405. Bronx Jeers May 5th, 2009 at 9:38 pm

    Love you Jeter.

    Good turn Tex around.

  1406. aronik May 5th, 2009 at 9:38 pm

    The bench is Cervelli, Berroa and Gardner

    why the hell isnt Juan Miranda or Shelley Duncan up here, having a legitimate pinch hitter on our bench would be nice

  1407. KP May 5th, 2009 at 9:39 pm

    Can we drop the Melky baserunning thing please? The rule of thumb is never make the 1st or 3rd out at third base. Melky made the 2nd out, it was worth the risk and he almost made it. The reason Pedroia didn’t try for 3rd, besides the fact that he would have been out by a mile, is there were 2 outs. There’s no advantage there. How about applauding Melky for a 3-3 day and a .349 season batting average?

  1408. CB May 5th, 2009 at 9:39 pm

    I’m honestly not sure how anyone could watch Joba pitch tonight and ever think that he should be pitching in the pen. I honestly can’t.

    I’m not sure what’s going on with his velocity. My sense that on the whole he’s trying not to throw 95+ to last the season and avoid injury. Perhaps that first inning he was cold and still needed to get warmed up ad didn’t want to cut loose too quickly.

    He looks like he’s being more cautious on his fastball delivery.

    All that said – his stuff is simply amazing. He has 3 fantastic pitches and his forth pitch – the change – is very good.

    It’s simply a phenomenal arsenal and when he’s throwing 94-95 he’s unhittable.

    One of the things I was hoping Joba would do more of this year was to throw his curve and change more and his slider less. I’ve always worried that that slider is so violent that it would make injury more likely unless he’s throwing it with perfect form.

    We’ve seen the curve more and more this season. Tonight we saw the change up. And the change was simply deadly.

    He throws 4 plus pitches. It’s unreal. But he throws 4 plus pitches.

    He has better stuff than AJ Burnett. He has better stuff than CC Sabathia. He’s not as good a pitcher as CC is – not close. But I’d venture to say he’s a better pitcher than AJ is right now.

    Just compare how Joba pitched tonight – how he used his change up compared to the stubborn 2 pitch pattern Burnett insists on (despite himself having a terrific change…)

    And tonight – and throughout the season – we’ve seen a young arm trying to force himself to accelerate the process of learning how to pitch so that he doesn’t have to throw 95+ with an 87-90 mph slider.

    I simply can’t fathom putting him in the pen unless he explicitly and definitively fails as a starter.

    And unless you give him the chance to start you’ll never know if he can’t do it.

  1409. trisha - click to see my bigger and better Opening Day pictures May 5th, 2009 at 9:39 pm

    Yes Pasqua but as I remember his next time out wasn’t quite so successful.

    I’m THINKING that a manager goes with his veterans in stickier situations. Melancon isn’t one of his veterans.

    My opinion.

  1410. Chris May 5th, 2009 at 9:39 pm

    What are the chances of lightning striking twice. Angel Berroa is at the game where Joba strikes out 12 and Al Downing strikes out 13. Both Games Angel is old enough to drink at the game.

  1411. Pasqua May 5th, 2009 at 9:40 pm

    KP- Amen.

  1412. randy l. May 5th, 2009 at 9:40 pm

    the yankees have figured out a way around rain outs.

    they just play in the rain.

  1413. carl May 5th, 2009 at 9:41 pm

    come on damon…

  1414. Pasqua May 5th, 2009 at 9:41 pm

    Trisha – Fair ‘nuf. Though “veteran” in this bullpen really only = Rivera.

  1415. Al from BK May 5th, 2009 at 9:41 pm

    Good job Damon!

  1416. trisha - click to see my bigger and better Opening Day pictures May 5th, 2009 at 9:41 pm

    :(

    Unbelievable. What lousy luck.

  1417. Benny Blanco May 5th, 2009 at 9:41 pm

    Tex- Yankee moment..take 12

  1418. NongEyeJon May 5th, 2009 at 9:42 pm

    Tex needs an at-bat to make him a “True Yankee”. Can this be it….PLEASE

  1419. terpbomber May 5th, 2009 at 9:42 pm

    It’s time for Tex to earn his pinstripes…

  1420. Boston Dave May 5th, 2009 at 9:42 pm

    nice Nick,

    don’t worry… I’m sticking in Modesto til tomorrow morning. Yanks will win this game.

    If I had my way I wouldn’t leave this chair at Starbucks but I’ll venture out after the game and see what the city has to offer.

    I do remember Grandaddy…

  1421. Al from BK May 5th, 2009 at 9:42 pm

    Tex swinging at everything right now.

  1422. trisha - click to see my bigger and better Opening Day pictures May 5th, 2009 at 9:43 pm

    Pasqua, I agree in return.

  1423. Nick in SF May 5th, 2009 at 9:43 pm

    Thank you, KP.

    And CB too, as usual.

  1424. Donnie May 5th, 2009 at 9:43 pm

    Trisha,

    By the way, I was having trouble posting at work, so I only posted game related things when it would let me, but good luck with your work decision. That took guts, but in the end, if you really feel you made the right decision, then don’t stress over it. You are clearly an intelligent person, and I’m sure you’ll land on your feet. Just transfer some of your undying optimism for the Yankees over to your personal life, and you’ll be just fine! ;)

  1425. randy l. May 5th, 2009 at 9:44 pm

    boston dave-

    if it stays at one run , do you think the red sox let joba drilling bay go for another day?

    if they do , i’ll be surprised.

    saito the closer today?

    he’s not going to drill anyone.

    would have to be delcarmen then.

  1426. Al from BK May 5th, 2009 at 9:44 pm

    How different would this AB be if A-Rod was looming on deck.

  1427. Pasqua May 5th, 2009 at 9:45 pm

    Stalling. Stalling. Stalling.

  1428. trisha - click to see my bigger and better Opening Day pictures May 5th, 2009 at 9:46 pm

    Donnie, what a really sweet thing to say. Thank you SO much for that sentiment. It really means a lot to me.

  1429. Al from BK May 5th, 2009 at 9:46 pm

    So close.

  1430. Terry from NH May 5th, 2009 at 9:46 pm

    lazy fly ball again from Tex..just isn’t the Yanks night!

  1431. rodney May 5th, 2009 at 9:46 pm

    All right! Mark “Easy-Out” Teixeria!

  1432. Benny Blanco May 5th, 2009 at 9:46 pm

    was arod popping up this much????

  1433. DonnieBaseball May 5th, 2009 at 9:47 pm

    At what point is it more then just a “slow start?”

  1434. Terry from NH May 5th, 2009 at 9:48 pm

    this is disheartening that this team can’t pick up Joba after the way he finished up tonight. Damnit all!

  1435. Spiced Ham May 5th, 2009 at 9:48 pm

    You guys rock Yankees!

  1436. Benny Blanco May 5th, 2009 at 9:48 pm

    No comment.

  1437. Benny Blanco May 5th, 2009 at 9:48 pm

    No comment.

  1438. Al from BK May 5th, 2009 at 9:48 pm

    The Bronx (warning track) Bombers.

  1439. DonnieBaseball May 5th, 2009 at 9:48 pm

    Leadoff single and he doesn’t move off first. Recurring theme.

  1440. ANSKY May 5th, 2009 at 9:48 pm

    Just took a break during the pitching change to Choke-a-jima.

    With any luck, Joba has forever silenced the Joba in the bullpen bullcr*p. He was flat-out freakin’ dominant after he settled in. I’m convinced that eventually a few times a year he could show us six or seven or even eight innings like that last four. Pitch the eighth inning? THAT’s how I want to see him pitch the eighth. Not just come in for a three strikeout eighth … coming BACK out or the eighth for three MORE stikeouts after seven innings of dominance sounds a helluva lot better to me.

  1441. Tex's friend (Best 5 ever) May 5th, 2009 at 9:49 pm

    why do we bother getting men on base?

  1442. Donnie May 5th, 2009 at 9:49 pm

    That “lazy fly ball from Tex” would have gone a lot farther in different weather. He got under it a little more than he should have, and once it got up in the wind, it had no chance of getting driven. He hit it well, just not for this weather.

    Same thing just happened to Matsui. They’re hitting the ball fine, it’s just losing everything in the wind.

  1443. Joe May 5th, 2009 at 9:49 pm

    Im getting sick of this 4-3 score.

  1444. Mike May 5th, 2009 at 9:49 pm

    This lineup is a sick joke.

  1445. Al from BK May 5th, 2009 at 9:49 pm

    “At what point is it more then just a “slow start?””

    Mid-July when we are 20 games out.

  1446. ANSKY May 5th, 2009 at 9:50 pm

    Better yet, SEVERAL times a year not just a few.

    Damn …

  1447. billybaseball May 5th, 2009 at 9:50 pm

    20 million just doesn’t get you what it used to….

  1448. Terry from NH May 5th, 2009 at 9:50 pm

    i’m getting away from this.. maybe i’ll be surprised in the morning..

  1449. Alex May 5th, 2009 at 9:50 pm

    We just can’t beat the Red Sox

    Can’t push across that big run against them

    0-5, back to .500. damn

  1450. yankeenate May 5th, 2009 at 9:50 pm

    just can’t seem to get the big hit(s)

  1451. Tex's friend (Best 5 ever) May 5th, 2009 at 9:50 pm

    dont worry guys, its just (insert game number).

  1452. Dan May 5th, 2009 at 9:50 pm

    Oh no not Albaladejo

  1453. Pat M May 5th, 2009 at 9:50 pm

    Bullpen redemption time….Man not having Bruney really stings

  1454. Vin May 5th, 2009 at 9:51 pm

    man how come we haven’t seen melancon or robertson in a while..he keeps using albaladejo

  1455. AGuard May 5th, 2009 at 9:51 pm

    Just concede the division to the Sux

    We’ll just have to chase the wild card along with TB and TOR

  1456. bridge jumper May 5th, 2009 at 9:51 pm

    Paranoid Android
    May 5th, 2009 at 9:36 pm
    I always thought we Yankee fans could bask when the day came that Manny & Ortiz weren’t gutting the Yanks.

    Now they are doing it in different ways. A clutch hit here, a pivotal stolen base there.

    In the end, this may be more insidious.
    *****************************************

    Nice use of the word ‘ insidious ‘

  1457. Boston Dave May 5th, 2009 at 9:52 pm

    “boston dave-

    if it stays at one run , do you think the red sox let joba drilling bay go for another day?”

    ——

    I do. I can’t see them hitting anyone tonight.

    Frankly, they’ve won 4 straight against the Yanks and are winning tonight. There’s no reason to light a fire under the Yankees by hitting someone, justified or not.

  1458. rconn23 May 5th, 2009 at 9:52 pm

    They just can’t get the big hit. Shaping up to be another demoralizing loss.

  1459. carl May 5th, 2009 at 9:52 pm

    Melancon…Albaladejo is overrated.

  1460. Al from BK May 5th, 2009 at 9:52 pm

    D strikes again.

  1461. Chris May 5th, 2009 at 9:53 pm

    Am I the only one that is having commercials fed in over live game?

    nice play pena

  1462. Rob Thompson May 5th, 2009 at 9:53 pm

    Tell me again why they’re playing in this monsoon?!?

  1463. dave May 5th, 2009 at 9:53 pm

    i really thought those 2 homers last nite by tex meant something but today, he looks the same as he had the entire season so far. I know he is a slow starter but when exactly is the start over for him?

  1464. Donnie May 5th, 2009 at 9:53 pm

    Oh good lord, Pena.

  1465. Rob Thompson May 5th, 2009 at 9:53 pm

    Bay needs to get hit again – next time in leg to slow him down.

  1466. Boston Dave May 5th, 2009 at 9:53 pm

    I’m sure it’s happened, but I can’t remember the last time Okajima didn’t throw a first pitch fastball.

    In Tex’s case, it was right down the middle.

    I wouldn’t have minded him letting it rip there instead of being forced to hit a pitcher’s pitch.

  1467. RS May 5th, 2009 at 9:54 pm

    How come our leadoff hitter gets on base and can’t even get a lead, while the Sox cleanup hitter steals easily against Molina?

  1468. Al from BK May 5th, 2009 at 9:54 pm

    Cue Lowell dagger.

  1469. Rob Thompson May 5th, 2009 at 9:54 pm

    Yanks are going to win this game – keep the faith my brothers and sisters!!

  1470. NongEyeJon May 5th, 2009 at 9:55 pm

    Please don’t let this get to 2 or more. I mean, 1-run is enough of a disadvantage.

  1471. dave May 5th, 2009 at 9:55 pm

    how did they let bay get such a good jump? He is not a base stealer anymore. There was no outs. You got to hold him on better than that

  1472. Aaron May 5th, 2009 at 9:55 pm

    So sick of this…

  1473. Paul May 5th, 2009 at 9:55 pm

    i know this is old, but i still thought it was funny
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lDHjGrbXiD4
    mark teixeira tribute song made by braves fans.

  1474. Rob May 5th, 2009 at 9:56 pm

    I got ten bucks that says the next batter homers.

  1475. Al from BK May 5th, 2009 at 9:56 pm

    Yanks=Defensive indifference.

  1476. Benny Blanco May 5th, 2009 at 9:56 pm

    Why is jessica Alba-ledejo pitching right now?

  1477. Rob Thompson May 5th, 2009 at 9:56 pm

    Well played Joe, Sox have their slop coming up. I sniff a 6-4-3 here.

  1478. dave May 5th, 2009 at 9:57 pm

    rob,

    I want to believe but everything that is happening in this game tells me the yanks are not winning this thing. The perfect throw to tag out melky at third, the ground rule double that would have scored at least one run, the steal by bay to get him onto third with only one out, the yankees completely and utter inability to hit at all against the sox pen with RISP and on and on.

  1479. randy l. May 5th, 2009 at 9:57 pm

    i have seen so many empty seats since the ill fated senior league.

  1480. Al from BK May 5th, 2009 at 9:57 pm

    Game over.

  1481. Rob May 5th, 2009 at 9:57 pm

    What a bum!

  1482. Boston Dave May 5th, 2009 at 9:57 pm

    “Why is jessica Alba-ledejo pitching right now?”

    ——–

    he’s gotten 2 groundball outs so far.

    what more do you want?

  1483. Terry from NH May 5th, 2009 at 9:57 pm

    Now this game is gonna be over.. this bullpen just sucks!!

  1484. carl May 5th, 2009 at 9:57 pm

    One day he will learn Albaladejo sucks.

  1485. jennifer May 5th, 2009 at 9:57 pm

    Someone remind me why Alby is here?

  1486. Rob Thompson May 5th, 2009 at 9:58 pm

    Hard to get their slop to hit into a 6-4-3 when you drill ‘em.

  1487. Donnie May 5th, 2009 at 9:58 pm

    Anything but a K or ground ball double play here, and that’s game. Way to go, Albaladejo. You are terrible.

  1488. Russell NY May 5th, 2009 at 9:58 pm

    This game is over.

  1489. Chris May 5th, 2009 at 9:58 pm

    girardi wanted his own scot proctor, looks like he found one

  1490. S.A.--It's a marathon, not a sprint. Calm down. May 5th, 2009 at 9:58 pm

    starts praying frantically

  1491. NongEyeJon May 5th, 2009 at 9:58 pm

    Yes, this is why we bring in Albaladejo. I know i know…there was an error. But you’re going to hit Bailey? I mean, really?

  1492. Trevor May 5th, 2009 at 9:58 pm

    Please why isn’t Melancon in to start the inning? Albaladejo is not that good.

  1493. RS May 5th, 2009 at 9:58 pm

    Remember that stat Pete showed yesterday about how much worse the Yankees record is when they make an error?

  1494. RS May 5th, 2009 at 9:58 pm

    Remember that stat Pete showed yesterday about how much worse the Yankees record is when they make an error?

  1495. MaineYankee May 5th, 2009 at 9:59 pm

    randy

    I see you have the pleasure of listening to the RS feed. :lol:

    If you didn’t know ECK. you wouldn’t know he had been a pitcher from listening to him. I’ve been yelling at him all game. :lol:

  1496. stuart May 5th, 2009 at 9:59 pm

    you can’t make this up…….

  1497. Al from BK May 5th, 2009 at 9:59 pm

    Watch Tek get a bomb or a bloop here.

  1498. Russell NY May 5th, 2009 at 10:00 pm

    Mr. 7.11 ERA

  1499. randy l. May 5th, 2009 at 10:00 pm

    ‘Frankly, they’ve won 4 straight against the Yanks and are winning tonight. There’s no reason to light a fire under the Yankees by hitting someone, justified or not.”

    that’s so mature and unlike the red sox sox.

    maybe we need to hit another one.

  1500. Mop Up Man May 5th, 2009 at 10:00 pm

    The Red Sox play a weird brand of baseball. They put a runner on first and have him steal second with no one out, thereby changing the complexion of the inning and putting pressure on the other team’s pitcher and defense to be perfect. I don’t get this style of getting the leadoff guy on and not waiting around for someone else to hit a home run. Odd. I’m glad the Yankees don’t do this.

  1501. Terry from NH May 5th, 2009 at 10:00 pm

    I’m watching NESN and have been listening to Eck all night

  1502. dave May 5th, 2009 at 10:01 pm

    iF WE LOSE this game all of these losses outside of maybe yesterday have just been brutal. i NEVER actually thought we were going to win yesterday so that wasnt as bad but the ump was annoying as hell.

  1503. NongEyeJon May 5th, 2009 at 10:01 pm

    Yeah, the Sox are getting at least one run here…putting the game out of reach.

  1504. Benny Blanco May 5th, 2009 at 10:01 pm

    Boston Dave
    May 5th, 2009 at 9:57 pm
    “Why is jessica Alba-ledejo pitching right now?”
    ————
    he’s gotten 2 groundball outs so far.

    what more do you want?

    to hit the Mega million jackpot.

  1505. Benny Blanco May 5th, 2009 at 10:01 pm

    Boston Dave
    May 5th, 2009 at 9:57 pm
    “Why is jessica Alba-ledejo pitching right now?”
    ————
    he’s gotten 2 groundball outs so far.

    what more do you want?

    to hit the Mega million jackpot.

  1506. S.A.--It's a marathon, not a sprint. Calm down. May 5th, 2009 at 10:01 pm

    I’m getting an ulcer

  1507. Al from BK May 5th, 2009 at 10:01 pm

    There is your ballgame. I hate this team.

  1508. DMan77 May 5th, 2009 at 10:02 pm

    Well, at least the office is on TBS.

  1509. Jack the Ripper May 5th, 2009 at 10:02 pm

    That runs on you Pena

  1510. NongEyeJon May 5th, 2009 at 10:02 pm

    Wow…look at that..getting runners over, getting the run in with less than 2 outs. Novel.

  1511. Terry from NH May 5th, 2009 at 10:02 pm

    There’s the game folks.. thanks for playing.. Now the Yanks owe us back 3 hrs of our life again… Thanks Alba!

  1512. Christopher May 5th, 2009 at 10:02 pm

    Seriously? Why is Albegiveupeightrunsperappearance still even on the 40-man?

  1513. randy l. May 5th, 2009 at 10:02 pm

    maine yankee-

    hall of fame pitcher yet.

    i kind of like listening to him though , even when he got all miffed up over joba drilling bay.

  1514. Benny Blanco May 5th, 2009 at 10:02 pm

    executing the sacrifice fly, feeling the flow.

  1515. CB May 5th, 2009 at 10:03 pm

    Really unclear what Girardi sees in Albaldejo and why he keeps running him out there in high leverage situations. Very strange.

    It’s not as if Albaladejo has any substantial major league track record. He doesn’t even have the body of work of Veras or Ramirez.

    Yet Girardi is adamant about not using Melancon or Robertson.

    Perhaps the conditions aren’t right to use those two. But it seems like there is always some theoretical reason not to use Melancon and Robertson.

    And what’s most concerning about this pattern is the way Girardi simply threw Melancon into the thick of things in two bases loaded situations.

    After that second bases loaded situation – where Melancon got beat by a veteran out guessing him – Girardi seems to have abandoned using Melancon. It’s as if he’s fallen out of the circle of trust with that one pitch.

    Bull pen is a problem. But if you are not going to try different options than you’re limiting yourself for unclear reasons other than proverbial “trust” and “experience.”

  1516. Rob Thompson May 5th, 2009 at 10:03 pm

    I hate everything about the Sox – the way they celebrate – the high fives – everything.

    That said, we’re still going to win this game.

  1517. jennifer May 5th, 2009 at 10:03 pm

    Anyone going down to baltimore this weekend?

  1518. Johnny D. May 5th, 2009 at 10:03 pm

    How does he always manage to load the bases. Curse him.

  1519. Rob May 5th, 2009 at 10:03 pm

    albalagayho is such a bum.

  1520. dave May 5th, 2009 at 10:03 pm

    i actually would rather see alby than edwar up right or veras for that matter which tells you how bad those two have been.

  1521. Aaron May 5th, 2009 at 10:03 pm

    that sac fly should put this out of reach now; awful…

  1522. Nick in SF May 5th, 2009 at 10:03 pm

    What’s it all about, Alby?

  1523. Rob Thompson May 5th, 2009 at 10:04 pm

    I like Alby – I think he has good stuff and can be effective.

  1524. Tex's friend (Best 5 ever) May 5th, 2009 at 10:04 pm

    i dont get how the possibility of losing 5 of 5 to boston is not a cause for concern just because it is may.

  1525. NongEyeJon May 5th, 2009 at 10:04 pm

    Rob Thompson,

    You’re a better man than I for having optimism. However, it doesn’t even seem like the Yankees themselves think they can beat the Red Sox this year. It’s now mental.

  1526. Tex's friend (Best 5 ever) May 5th, 2009 at 10:05 pm

    or a total dependency on homeruns.

  1527. Rob Thompson May 5th, 2009 at 10:05 pm

    This is just not fair – how many of our catchers are going to go down!!!!

  1528. dave May 5th, 2009 at 10:05 pm

    losing molina could be a blessing because then, cash would be forced to go out and find someone who can actually hit.

  1529. Rob May 5th, 2009 at 10:05 pm

    Why not bring in melancon? Why is this team so inept? I really think there is a problem in Yankeeland. We better build up the farm and soon, because this team just ain’t doing anything soon.

  1530. Boston Dave May 5th, 2009 at 10:05 pm

    Alby is actually throwing better than usual.

    If you’re mad right now, it should be at Pena.

  1531. NongEyeJon May 5th, 2009 at 10:05 pm

    Game. Over.

  1532. Al from BK May 5th, 2009 at 10:05 pm

    Back-breaker. Goodnight all.

  1533. dave May 5th, 2009 at 10:05 pm

    i kid over course but i really do think that cash should be looking for which catchers are available right now.

    GAME OVER -

  1534. Rob May 5th, 2009 at 10:06 pm

    Albalagayho!!!!

  1535. carl May 5th, 2009 at 10:06 pm

    lol this is just sad.

  1536. GreenBeret7 May 5th, 2009 at 10:06 pm

    S.A.–It’s a marathon, not a sprint. Calm down.
    May 5th, 2009 at 10:01 pm
    I’m getting an ulcer

    ————————————————————

    Reading some of the things that idiots post on here will do that.

  1537. NongEyeJon May 5th, 2009 at 10:06 pm

    Trisha,
    Care to rethink the bringing in of these “veterans” you support?

  1538. Terry from NH May 5th, 2009 at 10:06 pm

    I’m out.. screw this team!.. tease you all night then they fade away.. Nick G. of all people

  1539. Mike May 5th, 2009 at 10:06 pm

    Fire Cashman.

  1540. Mop Up Man May 5th, 2009 at 10:06 pm

    I love Girardi’s non-use of Melancon. He’s been rotting in the pen for days, so the next time he gets called upon, he’s rusty, gets bombed by Brian Roberts, and is on a one-way trip back to Scranton. This is Torre-esque managing.

  1541. billybaseball May 5th, 2009 at 10:06 pm

    what an idea….a player not swinging for the fences with a runner in scoring position?!

  1542. DonnieBaseball May 5th, 2009 at 10:06 pm

    Nick Green can get hits with runners on base. And our $100 million lineup can’t. Awesome.

  1543. Betsy May 5th, 2009 at 10:06 pm

    I really hate to have the GM interfere with the manager, but maybe Cash should step in and have a talk with Joe – he’s got Melancon and Robertson and he doesn’t use them. Not only is he going to burn the other guys out, but he’s going to foolishly expect these kids to be sharp when they haven’t pitched in days. I’m not even a huge fan of either Melancon or Robertson (that is, I like their talent, but they have to prove it up here)……..but it’s ridiculous not to use them. Veras got two outs, but it was still ludicrous that Joe brought him in in that situation

  1544. dave May 5th, 2009 at 10:06 pm

    You know a team is clicking when NICK GREEN is hitting everything as your replacement and the pen started off the year poorly and still has the lowest era in baseball. GEEEZE

  1545. RalphieD May 5th, 2009 at 10:06 pm

    pena’s 2 errors this year have really really hurt…

  1546. yankeenate May 5th, 2009 at 10:07 pm

    good grief. This guy doesn’t belong unless he is eating up innings in a meaningless game.

  1547. rconn23 May 5th, 2009 at 10:07 pm

    Mark Melancon is a better pitcher than either Veras or Alby.

    If you’re not going to put him in might as well send him back to Scranton.

    Girardi proving to be just like Torre with the bad bullpen management.

  1548. Pasqua May 5th, 2009 at 10:07 pm

    The New York Yankees: Paying back the karma loan since 2004.

  1549. Joe May 5th, 2009 at 10:07 pm

    Nick Green for god sake … He did what none of our friggin players could do, get a two out single.

  1550. Pel (Uncertainty is certain.) May 5th, 2009 at 10:07 pm

    my nay ees like albaladejo and like i peetch an stof like i reely goo peetcher

  1551. DonnieBaseball May 5th, 2009 at 10:07 pm

    Mop Up Man, EXCELLENT point. Did Melancon die? Honestly, why is he NEVER used? Girardi didn’t use him for a week and then decided to bring him to face Gary Matthews Jr. with the bases loaded. Yeah, real fair.

  1552. Trevor May 5th, 2009 at 10:07 pm

    Cashman has brought the two prospects we’ve been clamoring about. Nothing he could do about it if Girardi refuses to to use Melancon or Robertson.
    As I said and others Melancon should have been brought in to start the inning.

  1553. ALB3 May 5th, 2009 at 10:07 pm

    This loss is going to be on Girardi for using Albaladejo and staying with him when he clearly had nothing.

    I really think we needed to have Coke stay in for the 8th or at least part of it. Then we can bring in Melancon.

    This is just ridiculous. Bring in Edwar so it can get worse.

    Not to mention I’m not walking JD Drew, either. He’s nothing special.

  1554. Chas May 5th, 2009 at 10:07 pm

    This is unbearable. Yankees are losing fans left and right. All I see in NYC subways are an annoyingly disproportionate number of people wearing a “B” baseball cap. I’m a fan all the way, and we don’t want fair weather fans anyway, but still… I’m so disappointed.

  1555. S.A.--It's a marathon, not a sprint. Calm down. May 5th, 2009 at 10:07 pm

    well, this has not been good

  1556. Rob Thompson May 5th, 2009 at 10:07 pm

    Just switched over to TNT to catch Lebron. You can’t tell me that some scientist didn’t genetically create Lebron James in a lab somewhere. That kid is a freak of nature.

    Please, oh please deliver him to the Knicks to save our franchise!!!

  1557. Joe May 5th, 2009 at 10:08 pm

    IM READY FOR AROD

  1558. Betsy May 5th, 2009 at 10:08 pm

    Excuse me, but when did Molina get hurt? Oh boy……

  1559. Benny Blanco May 5th, 2009 at 10:08 pm

    I think joe giradi’s method for picking a reliever is “eenie, meenie, myynee, MO.”

  1560. DonnieBaseball May 5th, 2009 at 10:08 pm

    So Veras, Albaladoesntbelonginthebigs, and Edwar are trusted in close games more then Robertson and Melancon? Is this Joe Torre or Joe Girardi?

  1561. Tennore May 5th, 2009 at 10:09 pm

    Every time I get home and turn on the gamecast (I live on the west coast) Albaladejo is on and the Yankees are losing….Why the slow start every year?

  1562. GreenBeret7 May 5th, 2009 at 10:09 pm

    Had it not been for “The Defensive Savior” butchering the two hopper to the leadoff batter, this inning was over long ago.

  1563. Aaron May 5th, 2009 at 10:09 pm

    once again, look at those life long fans in the field seats!

  1564. Donnie May 5th, 2009 at 10:09 pm

    Dave, I think it’s perfectly okay to be mad at both at this point. Pena’s error was brutal, but Albaladejo was just terrible. You don’t hit guys who aren’t hitters with the game on the line. You just don’t.

    This team has major, MAJOR problems right now. There’s no bench, and too many pitchers in the bullpen, but none of them good. It’s painful to watch, honestly.

  1565. Teixeiramvp (JobaCyYoung) May 5th, 2009 at 10:09 pm

    These five games vs. the Sox have been the worst I’ve ever seen the Yankees play.
    I think the next time we play Boston we should just bunt on every pitch and save Boston the trouble. It’s a win win situation-Boston gets the win anyway and we’re out as fast as we possibly can.

  1566. MaineYankee May 5th, 2009 at 10:09 pm

    rtandy

    You know he never threw at anyone.

    Har to complin about that hit Green got. That was a good pitch.

  1567. Rob May 5th, 2009 at 10:09 pm

    Are you kidding me!!! Edwar!!! Why not use the kids. Girardi needs a new job because this thing with the yankees ain’t working out.

  1568. Pel (Uncertainty is certain.) May 5th, 2009 at 10:09 pm

    >That error by Pena opened the door up to this mess.

    I know, right? It’s too much to ask the pitcher to get just onnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnne more out.

  1569. NHYankee62 May 5th, 2009 at 10:09 pm

    Just send Melancon and Robetson down. Why even have them on the team????

    We know that Veras, Edwar… and Alby SUCK!!

    Why not give the new kids a shot????

  1570. AD May 5th, 2009 at 10:09 pm

    We really have no one we can trust in our bullpen. Its insane to think this team has a $231M payroll and our manager can’t find anyone to go to with only a one run deficit.

    Something has to be done about this. Cashman is just sitting on his hands watching this happened game after game.

  1571. Boston Dave May 5th, 2009 at 10:09 pm

    “As I said and others Melancon should have been brought in to start the inning.”

    ——–

    sure, but had Pena made the play it’s still a scoreless inning.

    the defense let them down this time, not the pen. Alby isn’t a strikeout pitcher so once they were loaded with 1-out, it would have made more sense to go to Melancon.

  1572. randy l. May 5th, 2009 at 10:09 pm

    this new field must drain well.

  1573. dave May 5th, 2009 at 10:10 pm

    We might as well use edwar as our long man/cleaner upper guy. I mean he is garbage as it is right now and he can just keep throwing the change over and over again if he wants because it wont matter,

  1574. CB May 5th, 2009 at 10:10 pm

    “If you’re mad right now, it should be at Pena.”

    Not true. Pena’s error hurt them obviously but that’s not what forced albaladejo to hit a batter, load the based, give up a deep fly ball and then a base hit to a terrible hitter.

    Puzzling bull pen usage.

    Girardi just will not stop using the same guys. This is exactly the same bull pen management we saw from Torre.

    Inexplicable reallly.

  1575. Nick in SF May 5th, 2009 at 10:10 pm

    Until you find the love you’ve missed youre nothing, alby.
    When you walk let your heart lead the way
    And you’ll find love any day, alby, alby.

  1576. Rob Thompson May 5th, 2009 at 10:10 pm

    Can’t wait for Alex to get here. This team needs a jolt and he is just the man to provide it.

    By the way, put it in the books, We ARE going to win this game.

  1577. stuart May 5th, 2009 at 10:10 pm

    the buffoons on thsi site wanted them to pla yPena he makes an error and not a sound.

    presently boston is making all the plays Yanks are making none.. when this occurs you lose… yanks cannot hit with RISP. ANd the worst pitching staff in baseball tonight has given up 6 runs, 4 earned.. if you do not give up any runs you usually win!!!!!!!!!!!!

  1578. carl May 5th, 2009 at 10:10 pm

    We need A-Rod so bad it’s not even funny. This is the perfect situation for him. Lets see if he can turn a .500 team around.

  1579. EvoLuTioN May 5th, 2009 at 10:10 pm

    joe girardi has not been managing the bullpen well at all this year, why the ____ did he bring in albaladejo for the 8th?

  1580. Angel - A tale told by idiots, full of sound and fury - signifying nothing. May 5th, 2009 at 10:10 pm

    S.A.—It’s a marathon, not a sprint. Calm down.
    May 5th, 2009 at 10:01 pm
    I’m getting an ulcer
    ——————————————————————————————
    Reading some of the things that idiots post on here will do that.

    *****************************************
    There isn’t enough Tums or Pepto to deal with it either.

    People expressing pure hatred for the team, yet they’re here night after night?

    Why does their sadomasochism have to become my problem?

  1581. Spiced Ham May 5th, 2009 at 10:10 pm

    FIRE JOE

  1582. RGR May 5th, 2009 at 10:10 pm

    Anyone else think we should take advantage of Melkys hot streak on the trade market? I cant honestly see him having much of a future with the Yankees, and if we wait to long, he will inevitably collapse and bring his trade value back down to Earth

  1583. Brian NYY May 5th, 2009 at 10:11 pm

    WE LOSE!!! WE LOSE!!!!

    This team is awesome!
    2nd and 3rd 1 out?! K, K!
    Last night, same thing!

    Forfeit the season, its over!
    When will this team finally get clutch BASE HITS!!!!
    Not Home Runs, base hits!!!!

    They are aggravating!
    Oh, and the firestarter five, keep Coke, release the rest!
    Bring up the kids since this season is over.

    0-5 against Boston, awesome!

  1584. Boston Dave May 5th, 2009 at 10:11 pm

    “I think the next time we play Boston we should just bunt on every pitch and save Boston the trouble.”

    ———-

    go back to France

  1585. Teixeiramvp (JobaCyYoung) May 5th, 2009 at 10:11 pm

    Why, oh why, was Melancon not in! And why didn’t Joba finish the sixth!
    The Joba thing I have a beef with is more Joba’s fault for that first inning than Girardi’s fault, but still, I’d have liked to see him get just 1 more batter.

  1586. EvoLuTioN May 5th, 2009 at 10:12 pm

    http://www.sawauto.com/uploade.....-44%5D.jpg

  1587. Teixeiramvp (JobaCyYoung) May 5th, 2009 at 10:12 pm

    Boston Dave-Sigh. Of course I’m not serious, but that does adequately express my frustration. By the way, is that supposed to be an insult?

  1588. Benny Blanco May 5th, 2009 at 10:13 pm

    Toronto won tonight. 19-10

    Last year we all thought that tampa would not be able to sustain this type of play all last year. How did that work out?

  1589. Rob May 5th, 2009 at 10:13 pm

    It’s not like this is a rebuilding team or anything. This team just stinks!!! I wish their plane would crash so it could save me the trouble of watching.

  1590. Trevor May 5th, 2009 at 10:13 pm

    The 3 Stooges: Albaladejo Ramirez Veras

    Could this organization wake up? These guys stink. I don’t care what they did last year. There’s a reason why the Nationals who are awful didn’t want Albaladejo.
    There’s a reason why Ramirez has never gotten a real shot. Vares…………….nothing much to say. Ugh!

  1591. Aaron May 5th, 2009 at 10:13 pm

    it’s interesting how the Yanks are like the Pentagon; lots of overpriced and useless parts for a system that could probably do the same with less money wasted. Think about it…

  1592. stuart May 5th, 2009 at 10:13 pm

    the only excuse for continuosly using veras, edwar , and abeledajo is to figure out who you are going to put on waivers or send down.

    I agree with very little I read here but Melancon and Robertson need to be used or sent out…..

  1593. RS May 5th, 2009 at 10:13 pm

    Defense at 3B has been shaky at best. Arod will be a welcome return, bad hip and all.

  1594. AD May 5th, 2009 at 10:13 pm

    We need A-Rod so bad it’s not even funny. This is the perfect situation for him. Lets see if he can turn a .500 team around.

    ————

    I guarantee the “Yankee faithful” will be booing and calling for his head his first week back. Sickening.

  1595. Frankie D May 5th, 2009 at 10:13 pm

    I’m really starting to get pissed of at Girardi. Every single f’n move he makes is wrong.

  1596. SJ44 May 5th, 2009 at 10:14 pm

    Now 0-5 against the Red Sox and 3-8 overall against the AL East with Tampa coming in tomorrow.

    This team is in full freefall now.

    Only question now is, how far does the freefall go before somebody gets fired.

    At this pace, nobody will be in the seats by next month.

    When that happens, somebody has to go. If for no other reason, for ownership to at least act as if they care about the results on the field as much as they care about making a buck.

    Just another embarrassing performance by a team clearly not ready to be a good ballclub.

    Its a No Excuse season and this team is just awful right now and its getting worse by the day.

    At this rate, its doubtful Girardi makes it past Memorial Day.

    Somebody is going to take the fall for this failure of a baseball team.

    It may not be fair, but it will be the manager.

  1597. Teixeiramvp (JobaCyYoung) May 5th, 2009 at 10:14 pm

    Once again, this ridiculous Murphy’s law situation with the Sox just doesn’t end.
    Everything that could go wrong went wrong.

  1598. stuart May 5th, 2009 at 10:14 pm

    where’s joba right about now? fist pumping in front of the buffet!!!

  1599. randy l. May 5th, 2009 at 10:15 pm

    the difference between the red sox and yankee bullpen is the difference between the teams at the present.

  1600. vb03 May 5th, 2009 at 10:15 pm

    Red Sox are better than the Yankees in every way. Sad but true. Every piece of garbage they pick up turns into the epitome of clutchiness.

    Nick Green? You gotta be kidding me.

  1601. Boston Dave May 5th, 2009 at 10:15 pm

    CB,

    so the runs are earned?

    Alby did his job and had his hand forced.

    It made sense to go to Melancon against Tek because they could have used a strikeout.

    But to blame Alby as if he pitched poorly that inning doesn’t make sense to me.

    The only hit was a slap by Green on a pitch that started over the plate and tailed way outside. It was just a good hit.

    No problem with anybody saying Alby shouldn’t have been out there, but that run was not his fault.

  1602. MaineYankee May 5th, 2009 at 10:15 pm

    randy

    You can correct me if I’m wrong but I wonder if Joe is trying to get these BP guys back on track by using them this way.

  1603. Tex's friend (Best 5 ever) May 5th, 2009 at 10:15 pm

    did cano just forget how to hit all of a sudden?

  1604. Dutch Hugo May 5th, 2009 at 10:15 pm

    Nick Green may be a terrible hitter, but at least he can put the DAMN BAT ON THE BALL with men in scoring position. How many times, year after year, have we watched Yankee hitters go up there with men on 3rd and less than 2 outs and fail to even put the bat on the ball? Over and over and over again, and with a terrible bullpen that you know is going to give up late runs, you have to score when you have opportunities. The only way we score is when we hit a homer. It’s pathetic. Is it too much to ask a $250 million payroll team to put the ball in play??? This team is USELESS. They can’t hit with RISP, can’t pitch, and can’t field. What can they do for $250 million? What????

  1605. Rob May 5th, 2009 at 10:15 pm

    the gaynkees!

  1606. AGuard May 5th, 2009 at 10:15 pm

    As usual… Albaladejo is a Spring Training folk hero, melts away when the regular season starts.

    I guess we found our Chris Britton. Bravo!

  1607. Hoping May 5th, 2009 at 10:16 pm

    I’m searching for something positive here (especially since Joba’s 12-strikeout performance wasn’t enough to end that nonsensical starter/reliever debate). Maybe, just maybe, it will be that Albaladejo’s latest failure will prompt Girardi to remove him from his Torre-esque “circle of trust”. Ideally he would shred the “circle of trust” and actually manage the bullpen like he did last year.

  1608. Kevin May 5th, 2009 at 10:16 pm

    Didn’t GreenBeret tell us that Pena makes errors at the worst times?

    Well so far, he is right.

  1609. Teixeiramvp (JobaCyYoung) May 5th, 2009 at 10:17 pm

    This loss is as much Joba’s fault as everybody else.
    He did great after the first, but sadly the first does count.
    Everybody knows Beckett is a very good pitcher. Three runs is a lot off him and Joba couldn’t match it.

  1610. Giuseppe Franco May 5th, 2009 at 10:17 pm

    Puzzling bull pen usage.

    Girardi just will not stop using the same guys. This is exactly the same bull pen management we saw from Torre.

    Inexplicable reallly.

    ————

    Agreed completely. I’m not a bridge jumper and never have been. But Girardi’s pen management this season has been very very disturbing this season.

    Like you said, he keeps using the same guys who haven’t done the job while guys Melancon, Robertson, and Jackson sit out there and rot.

    Girardi must have attended a Joe Torre bullpen management seminar over the offseason. He’s better than that.

  1611. Pat M May 5th, 2009 at 10:17 pm

    Why doesn’t Giradi just annoint the roles of 8th / 7th inning to certain guys and go with it for a few weeks….This mixing and matching is a farse…Many teams are having bullpen issues, but they are going with the same stragery…..Boston’s pen has defined roles….Why is Robertson & Melanchon up here if they’re not seeing any action….Mark should just have th 8th inning role until Bruney gets back….Robertson the 7th , Coke for lefties and just float the others as needed..This is crap….

  1612. Y26 May 5th, 2009 at 10:17 pm

    If Girardi gets fired this season, that means we would have had 3 managers in the last 3 years.

    Welcome back to the 80s!

  1613. dave May 5th, 2009 at 10:18 pm

    gUYS,

    You make it sound like girardi doesnt want to use melancon. I think he wants to use them when the yanks are up and not waste them when the yanks are losing. Like if the yanks were up by one or two runs instead of down by one or two, it could have been melancon then mo. Maybe im wrong but thas what i would do.

  1614. Mop Up Man May 5th, 2009 at 10:18 pm

    It goes without saying, but I loved Girardi’s bullpen management so much more last year, when he wasn’t afraid to use a kid pitcher with – gasp – maybe some actual talent to get key outs. His sudden fear of this demonstrates that he’s succumbed to the pressure of the Yankees’ “win now” mentality, relying on guys who have “experience”, even if that so-called experience has involved killing the Yankees.

    This is a Torre 2007 rerun.

  1615. stuart May 5th, 2009 at 10:18 pm

    tthat joba post was an imposter not me…

    how childish ar epeople to use others names to post???

  1616. Trevor May 5th, 2009 at 10:18 pm

    Girardi is doing a terrible job with the pen. Now the genius has Melancon warming up.
    A little too late Joe.

  1617. NHYankee62 May 5th, 2009 at 10:18 pm

    “sure, but had Pena made the play it’s still a scoreless inning.
    the defense let them down this time, not the pen. Alby isn’t a strikeout pitcher so once they were loaded with 1-out, it would have made more sense to go to Melancon.”

    Boston Dave,

    You’re missing the point:

    Girardi is continually making the wrong moves w/ the bullpen. Veras, Edwar, and Alby are all terrible.

    WHy not see if Melancon and Roberston can get the job done???

    Girardi is being alot like Torre here.

    He deserves to be fired.

  1618. trisha - click to see my bigger and better Opening Day pictures May 5th, 2009 at 10:18 pm

    *that is an SJ imposter*

    Ignore the troll posing as SJ

  1619. Boston Dave May 5th, 2009 at 10:18 pm

    “Boston Dave-Sigh. Of course I’m not serious, but that does adequately express my frustration. By the way, is that supposed to be an insult?”

    ——–

    just no room for quitters here. If you were kidding, then it doesn’t fit.

    The Yankees will be fine. People need to stop abandoning the season after every loss.

  1620. Victor May 5th, 2009 at 10:19 pm

    What good is Joba for 5.2 innings and 12 Ks?

    Still need to use this horrible bullpen for 3.1 IP

    Joba’s best use is in the pen. That’s the bottom line.

  1621. thunderfangabe May 5th, 2009 at 10:19 pm

    perhaps i should have gone to the twins-tigers game tonight when i had the chance…

  1622. Betsy May 5th, 2009 at 10:19 pm

    Keep in mind – that’s not SJ……….

    This goes beyond the Sox being in the Yanks’ head (which i refuse to believe). The Yankees are (a) just playing miserably and (b) aren’t that good. CC and AJ will be just fine, so will Andy. However, Joba and Phil will have their ups and downs…….that’s 2/5 of our rotation.

    How long can we make excuses for Tex? We need him now – not two months from now when the season is over? Of course, he’s not the only one to blame. The team tries – they do have backbone – but they’re just not that good and they have black holes throughout their lineup. At this point, I think it’s just a matter of survival and getting through the season.

    Joe’s bullpen use is abominable – and Cash had better talk to him about it.

  1623. jennifer May 5th, 2009 at 10:20 pm

    trisha- I was just going to comment on that.

  1624. SJ44 May 5th, 2009 at 10:20 pm

    Dave,

    Alby pitched like crap. Can’t hit a guy in that situation and then throw the one pitch Varitek can lift, after he shook off Molina no less, for the sac fly.

    Then, he compounds it by Nick Green beating him.

    His job is to pick up his teammate. Not add to the mess.

    He’s awful but, like with Veras and Ramirez, Girardi keeps going to them no matter how much they fail. Which is just about all the time.

    Girardi has pinned his job on those three guys and has ignored Robertson and Melancon.

    He will be gone by Memorial Day at this rate.

    If George was still George, he would be gone after tonight.

    0-5 against the Sox and beaten every way a team can be beaten? That’s not job security in the Bronx. That’s what gets guys fired.

  1625. Teixeiramvp (JobaCyYoung) May 5th, 2009 at 10:20 pm

    Boston Dave-I’m not abandoning the season, but five traight horrible losses to the Red Sox is really, really bad. The Red Sox have just looked better.

  1626. TexasYanksfan May 5th, 2009 at 10:20 pm

    This is inexcusable. Someone needs to be held accountable. Disgraceful and disgusting.

  1627. dave May 5th, 2009 at 10:20 pm

    and as im writing that above, i hear that melancon is warming in the pen. Are you kidding me??? Why would joe bring him in with a three run deficit. Now, that is a total waste. He might as well of pitched when we were down by one to hold us in it. The way we are hitting it doesnt really matter anyway considering we are not scoring that run to close the gap.

  1628. Aaron May 5th, 2009 at 10:21 pm

    swish returning to form on an 86 mph straight fastball…

  1629. Benny Blanco May 5th, 2009 at 10:21 pm

    The red sox are just bullying us.

  1630. Spyder May 5th, 2009 at 10:21 pm

    Guys… Hal is NOT George in the 80s and 90s. He is much more rational and level headed. He leans on Cashman because he admittedly knows nothing about baseball. And ownership loves Girardi, there was no disconnect like there was with Torre.

    Some of you are going to be very disappointed when no one is fired and no panic moves are made.

    Hal does not = George. And Hank is a buffoon with no power.

  1631. NHYankee62 May 5th, 2009 at 10:21 pm

    “Agreed completely. I’m not a bridge jumper and never have been. But Girardi’s pen management this season has been very very disturbing this season.
    Like you said, he keeps using the same guys who haven’t done the job while guys Melancon, Robertson, and Jackson sit out there and rot.
    Girardi must have attended a Joe Torre bullpen management seminar over the offseason. He’s better than that.”

    I don’t think he is. I seem to remember Girardi making several horrible BP moves last season as well.

    ALso, he tends to get credit now for benching Cano. Problem is he waited until the Yankees were out of it to do it. He should’ve done it while they still had a chance instead of waiting until the last few weeks.

  1632. CB May 5th, 2009 at 10:21 pm

    “.Why is Robertson & Melanchon up here if they’re not seeing any action….Mark should just have th 8th inning role until Bruney gets back….Robertson the 7th , Coke for lefties and just float the others as needed..This is crap….”

    Girardi seems to be managing the pen in a reactionary overly conservative way.

    I get the feeling that he’s managing with job security in mind.

    He simply won’t trust the young kids to see what they can do. He just doesn’t seem willing to do it.

    It’s very odd.

    He got a lot of credit last year for managing a pen in which multiple arms were performing at league average or above.

    Now that he’s not getting those kind of performances his bull pen management isn’t looking very good.

  1633. Brian NYY May 5th, 2009 at 10:21 pm

    Bottom Line, I used to like Girardi but he’s not the same manager he was in Florida.

    He’s afraid to yell, scream, and make mistakes in NY.
    Grow a pair and bench the 3 guys who continuously screw the game over.

    Melancon, Robertson, or any little leaguer can do a better job that those 3.

    Can anyone in the lineup tell me (off the top of their head) what their job is when they’re up with a man on 3rd and less than 2 outs?

    hint: not a home-run!

  1634. Angel - A tale told by idiots, full of sound and fury - signifying nothing. May 5th, 2009 at 10:21 pm

    Girardi must have attended a Joe Torre bullpen management seminar over the offseason. He’s better than that.

    *************************************************

    He’s definitely better than that. He showed last season he was. Why something that was a strength has showed such regression so far, is rather puzzling.

  1635. LK May 5th, 2009 at 10:22 pm

    Cervelli catching Burnett tomorrow

    And AJ has to be the savior again, despite his mediocrity

    This is going to be fun

  1636. Teixeiramvp (JobaCyYoung) May 5th, 2009 at 10:23 pm

    Betsy-First of all the season will not be over two months from now. That’s far too early, even if they’re back ten or more games. Second, how can you believe that they’re a bad team more than the Sox are in their head? I think the Sox are certainly in their head, because they do well vs. other teams, or at least all right.
    We just CAN’t beat the Red Sox.

  1637. Boston Dave May 5th, 2009 at 10:23 pm

    “Boston Dave-I’m not abandoning the season, but five traight horrible losses to the Red Sox is really, really bad. The Red Sox have just looked better.”

    ——–

    Yes they have. And anybody who thinks the Yankees won’t play better for the remaining 140 games should probably stop watching.

    I happen to think they will play much better, especially when ARod comes back and CC and AJ warm up.

    The Yankees would be 3.5 back of the Sox if they lose. If you can’t stomach 3.5 games, you’re a fan of the wrong sport.

    Also, the Yankees almost always play their best baseball in the second half.

  1638. stuart May 5th, 2009 at 10:23 pm

    the yanks also need to add 1 more bat to the bench. they need to move out 1 pitcher NOW>>>>>>>>

    SJ again with the hysteria.. Cashman needs to talk to girardi about the pen use, if the guys cannot produce try someone else. patience only for Mo, and the young guys…

  1639. RS May 5th, 2009 at 10:23 pm

    This game is complete dejavu of last night. Down 4 runs, close the gap to 1 run, and the pen coughs up 2 insurance runs for Boston.

    I hope the Yankees don’t score a couple runs and lose 6-5. If they’re going to lose this game they might as well go down quietly. Last night they were probably proud of themselves for battling till the last out. Let them be embarrassed for their poor performance tonight.

  1640. ye May 5th, 2009 at 10:23 pm

    the yankees are gutless, they dont have what it takes to beat boston anymore.

    ever since 2004 i feel they have owned us, even when we beat them they look so much better than we do

  1641. YankeeRay May 5th, 2009 at 10:23 pm

    Hey Tom K, what were you saying about Nick Greens hitting? I’d much rather have him on our bench than the garbage we have now.
    Green gets a clutch hit on a bad pitch with 2 outs and Pena strikes out in a key spot in the game.

  1642. randy l. May 5th, 2009 at 10:23 pm

    “You can correct me if I’m wrong but I wonder if Joe is trying to get these BP guys back on track by using them this way.”

    maine yankee-
    girardi looking at the bullpen is like when i look in my fridge for something good to eat and realize it’s time to go to the grocery store.

    i have no idea what’s going on with the bullpen. your guess is as good as mine.

  1643. dave May 5th, 2009 at 10:23 pm

    Arod is NOT JUST replacing posada. That is such an dumb comment. Posada is not even playing consistenly every day but if he was, he is a career 270 hitter averaging around 20 homers. Arod is 300 40 homer guy with speed and a better eye, I dont ever see posada batting third or fourth in the lineup. I think thas because he is no arod. soo dumb – i thought mike kay was better than that.

  1644. Joe I May 5th, 2009 at 10:23 pm

    “You make it sound like girardi doesnt want to use melancon. I think he wants to use them when the yanks are up and not waste them when the yanks are losing. Like if the yanks were up by one or two runs instead of down by one or two, it could have been melancon then mo. Maybe im wrong but thas what i would do”

    dave, at this rate, if they wait for a lead to use Melancon, he will be in a game next month. Sometimes you have to use your best relievers to keep the game close. If it’s 4-3 someone might get lucky and step in to one. Now, that it’s 6-3, they need a miracle.

  1645. carl May 5th, 2009 at 10:24 pm

    Can we get a word from George before its too late? Hank at least? Even Hal jesus.

  1646. pc69 May 5th, 2009 at 10:24 pm

    Pete, since there is a common theme here on the bull pen, can you find out why Girardi continues to use the same ineffective guys in tough situations but will use someone like Melancon when there is nothing to lose?

    There has to be a reason, if it is for trade purposes, that is not happening. If it is to see who can work themselves out of a funk, at the expense of a depleted team desperately looking for something to go right, that is bad managing.

  1647. Teixeiramvp (JobaCyYoung) May 5th, 2009 at 10:24 pm

    Boston Dave-As right as that is, what could these five losses mean? They’ve had a chance to take four of them, really. Those four games are massive and definitely may come back to bite them.

  1648. dave May 5th, 2009 at 10:24 pm

    robbie is now 0 for 12 after a season long hitting streak. THATS JUST GREAT.

  1649. Donnie May 5th, 2009 at 10:24 pm

    Those three ABs were basically the Yankees conceding. Not a single one looked like they wanted to be up there.

  1650. Yanks22 May 5th, 2009 at 10:24 pm

    Yankees suck DAAAAAAAAAAA YANKKKKEEEESSSS SUCK!

  1651. Will May 5th, 2009 at 10:24 pm

    How much longer does Girardi get to manage this team to a .500 record? He has sat on his ass all night when there were opportunities to help the team pull out a win. I’m tired of Girardi’s inert approach to managing…this team needs a change, and they need it soon.

  1652. Will May 5th, 2009 at 10:24 pm

    How much longer does Girardi get to manage this team to a .500 record? He has sat on his ass all night when there were opportunities to help the team pull out a win. I’m tired of Girardi’s inert approach to managing…this team needs a change, and they need it soon.

  1653. HillBilllShakespeare May 5th, 2009 at 10:24 pm

    Im sorry, but I can’t deal with Girardi anymore. How can this guy keep sending jokes like edwar out in these spots? He puts melancon in now?????!?!??!?! where was he last inning???!?!?!?!?

  1654. carl May 5th, 2009 at 10:25 pm

    Why is he using him now!! Are you kidding me!

  1655. Lance May 5th, 2009 at 10:25 pm

    Maybe if Girardi didn’t feel he had to win every game, the BP management would be different.

    Hard to win in this environment… and we wonder why all of our big FA acquisitions flop. Takes a rare type of person to be able to withstand this stress and pressure that is associated with being a Yankee.

    Same reason why Cashman is probably going to make a panic move at some point (desperate trade, Joba to pen etc.). The Steinbrenner win-or-bust mandate is going to make everyone panic.

  1656. RS May 5th, 2009 at 10:25 pm

    Is this the first time in YES history that the player of the game is the losing pitcher?

  1657. dave May 5th, 2009 at 10:25 pm

    GIRARDI is being such a fool right now. Just throw in anybody but he uses one of the best arms we have up here. Whats the point? We arent scoring three

  1658. Johnny D. May 5th, 2009 at 10:26 pm

    I hate this team. Here’s to next season without all of this baggage and a whole new supply of billion dollar contracts.

  1659. Teixeiramvp (JobaCyYoung) May 5th, 2009 at 10:26 pm

    I’m not even watching the game. I knw they’ll lose.
    That being said, I’d gladly eat my words if they won.

  1660. Eastport May 5th, 2009 at 10:27 pm

    Those who wanted George out of the pitcher so Cashman could so his job in peace…. well, this is the end result.

    Do you like what you are seeing from end Winter of 07 to now?

    Sometimes the grass isin’t always greener… George (like Joe Torre) was one of a kind. You don’t realize what you have until it is gone.

  1661. Epiphany May 5th, 2009 at 10:27 pm

    “What good is Joba for 5.2 innings and 12 Ks?

    Still need to use this horrible bullpen for 3.1 IP

    Joba’s best use is in the pen. That’s the bottom line.”

    Good point, it WOULD be better for pitchers not named Joba Chamberlain to pitch 8 innings instead of 3 1/3. As long as nobody scores on us in the 8th inning, everything else will take care of itself.

  1662. Pat M May 5th, 2009 at 10:27 pm

    Randy I, That was priceless……Sums it all up…..

  1663. randy l. May 5th, 2009 at 10:27 pm

    pedroia has adjusted to the steady stream of outside pitches. he’s coverimg the poutsde part of the plate.

    so what does that mean?

    yes, up and in would be baseball 101.

  1664. Matt May 5th, 2009 at 10:27 pm

    RS-No.

    The yankee bullpen was player of the game when mo blew that game in boston. i kid you not.

    thats why you dont announce player of the game until the GAME itself has ended.

  1665. Benny Blanco May 5th, 2009 at 10:27 pm

    Pedroia is a pain in the FANNY!!!

  1666. Teixeiramvp (JobaCyYoung) May 5th, 2009 at 10:28 pm

    In fairness to Robbie, he’s been robbed of several hits.

  1667. How ya doin? how how ya doin? May 5th, 2009 at 10:28 pm

    Pete no one sits in the premium seats.

  1668. lil' m May 5th, 2009 at 10:28 pm

    “Anybody who wants to waste this kid in the bullpen is clinically stupid.” Pete U ROCK!!!

    CB: Yes, yes and yes – Joba ‘s a beast – let him do his thing. I’m only upset that this is the one time I forgot to set the DVR, so I don’t have the game recorded. 12 strikeouts – WOW. Didn’t get to tune in until the 6th or 7th, but as soon as poor Peña dropped the ball, I knew that would come back to bite the Yankees. Not looking good at the moment, but still, let Jobamania have a real chance. I’m beginning to think the worst thing the Yankees could ever have done was to put him into the bullpen as a temporary measure lol. Of course it would help if the bullpen could get it together AND if the grownup starters (hello CC and AJ) could be bust out and be their dominant selves.

  1669. Nick in SF May 5th, 2009 at 10:28 pm

    “I wonder if Joe is trying to get these BP guys back on track by using them this way.”

    Back on track for them, the third rail for us. :(

    Meanwhile, Livan pitched into the 7th, has his ERA below 6. Ugh!

  1670. CB May 5th, 2009 at 10:28 pm

    “Why is he using him now!! Are you kidding me!”

    Because it’s now a lower leverage situation.

    He doesn’t trust the kids. That’s it.

    Strange that he would put Melancon in two bases loaded situations and then relegate him as something of an after thought.

    Now Melancon hasn’t gotten regular work so we’ll see how he does.

    His curve ball and change are his big pitches and those are feel pitches.

  1671. Steve Balboni May 5th, 2009 at 10:28 pm

    Love the empty seats. First Red Sox/Yankees series at the new park and there are 50 people in the crowd. Good job, ownership!

  1672. Betsy May 5th, 2009 at 10:28 pm

    Joe is actually going to have Cervelli catch AJ? This has nothing to do with a personal catcher, but can we give the kid a few days to at least warm up with these guys before we send them out in a game? Cervelli knows nothing about AJ and vice versa – is this official? It’s too dumb to be true.

    I’ve said it before – Joe is managing like a man who knows the noose is around his neck. Last year, he knew he wasn’t going to get fired – it freed him up to handle the pen accordingly. He instilled confidence in those guys by not sending them to the doghouse after a bad performance or two…………Now, he yanks them out of the game left and right – he goes to to the same people over and over again and keeps these kids on the sidelines. How are they supposed to stay sharp?

    It actually does sound like SJ, but he said he wasn’t going to post, so…..

  1673. randy l. May 5th, 2009 at 10:29 pm

    “he’s coverimg the poutsde part of the plate.”

    damn, i think gb 7 has gotten remote access to my computer.

  1674. dave May 5th, 2009 at 10:30 pm

    Joe,

    Now that melancon is in a 6 to 3 game, I agree with you completely. Melancon should have been in when it was 4-3 to start the inning and definitely not now no matter what. I never really kill girardi for anything yet but I have to call him out on this, dumb move. Very dumb move.

  1675. Brian NYY May 5th, 2009 at 10:30 pm

    Amazing how Melancon doesn’t get work in and now he just walked the leadoff hitter.

    Bottom Line, DA YANKEES SUCK!!!

  1676. Don May 5th, 2009 at 10:30 pm

    It’s early in the season and seats are empty

    If we are mediocre like we were last year in the mid-summer… you may have Rogers Centre/McAffe Colosseum type crowds at best.

  1677. Jeff NJ May 5th, 2009 at 10:31 pm

    last time he brought in Melancon with the bases loaded and he got hit on a first pitch strike. Now Girardi wants Melancon to prove himself again. As the season fritters away. But don’t worry, now he’ll get work in 9th and won’t then Joe will say he’s not available tomorrow.

    Joe needs to start thinking outside the box or he won’t last long.

  1678. Teixeiramvp (JobaCyYoung) May 5th, 2009 at 10:31 pm

    The Yankees aren’t awful, but they play their worst ball vs. the RRed Sox.
    Shame. This was looking to be a pretty good game too.

  1679. Boston Dave May 5th, 2009 at 10:31 pm

    “Boston Dave-As right as that is, what could these five losses mean? They’ve had a chance to take four of them, really. Those four games are massive and definitely may come back to bite them.”

    ———

    I see. So they could have won 4 out of 5 but the Sox are a far superior team?

    Now add in the fact that the Yankees best hitter is out.

    The Sox are good. The Yankees will get much better. No reason to be so hopeless.

  1680. NHYankee62 May 5th, 2009 at 10:32 pm

    When is Bruney coming back????

  1681. Trevor May 5th, 2009 at 10:32 pm

    This is Joe waiving the white flag. Brings him in now that the game looks to be over.

  1682. lil' m May 5th, 2009 at 10:32 pm

    Love my Yanks, but this year with the Red Sox they cannot get out of their own way.

  1683. carl May 5th, 2009 at 10:32 pm

    Jesus this BP is horrible.

  1684. O Dawg May 5th, 2009 at 10:33 pm

    Betsy – That’s what the “Win or else” mandate does to a manager (and a player).

    You can bring in a new manager, but Tony Pena is going to manage the same way.

    Bobby Valentine is going to manage the same way.

    That’s the type of stressful atmosphere they have created here. Do any of them look like they are having fun out there? They look like they are tight as a drum. Even when they get a hit, they looked relieved more than happy.

  1685. DonnieBaseball May 5th, 2009 at 10:33 pm

    Good thing the kid hasn’t pitched in a week!

  1686. NHYankee62 May 5th, 2009 at 10:33 pm

    I don’t want to jump on this kid… but just throw strikes… come on!!

  1687. Donnie May 5th, 2009 at 10:33 pm

    Melancon looks like he’s afraid to face these guys.

  1688. Teixeiramvp (JobaCyYoung) May 5th, 2009 at 10:33 pm

    Boston Dave-Exactly. They could have taken four of five but they couldn’t get it done.
    Getting ARod back will help a lot but with the way our bullpen’s playing I honestly would not feel comfortable with a ten run lead.

  1689. Joe I May 5th, 2009 at 10:34 pm

    “Now that melancon is in a 6 to 3 game, I agree with you completely. Melancon should have been in when it was 4-3 to start the inning and definitely not now no matter what. I never really kill girardi for anything yet but I have to call him out on this, dumb move. Very dumb move.”

    dave, the sad thing is that Melancon hasn’t pitched in so long, he’s not sharp, so, if the Yanks had the lead tonight, him and Mo wouldn’t be ready because they haven’t pitched regularly. Yet, the other scrubs pitch just about everyday.

  1690. Trevor May 5th, 2009 at 10:34 pm

    Please don’t throw Bay a FB.

  1691. SJ44 May 5th, 2009 at 10:34 pm

    I call BS on the “pressure to win every night” for Girardi.

    They have 210 million invested in this team. They have the best of everything in the new ballpark.

    You mean to tell me its too much to ask that his team can beat the Red Sox say, ONCE?

    That’s too much to ask?

    If it is, fire him now, hire Pena, and move on.

    His bullpen management, or lack of it, is one reason why the bullpen is so awful this year.

    If you don’t have a bullpen, you can’t win games.

    Another walk.

    They are just going to have to hold open tryouts to find 6 guys who can throw the ball over the plate out of the bullpen.

    Aside from Rivera and maybe Coke, they don’t have anybody.

    If its a “rebuilding year”, have Cashman tell all of us tomorrow so we can not think about having a team that makes the playoffs.

    If not, fix it and fix it now or the Steinbrenners will find somebody who can. Believe me, they aren’t paying this kind of coin for a team this bad throughout the season.

  1692. Ace May 5th, 2009 at 10:34 pm

    Melancon sucks big time. Send him back down to the minors to work on his stuff.

  1693. Dr. J May 5th, 2009 at 10:34 pm

    Melancon pitched on Friday

    He has had 2 games off (and the rain out). Now people are complaining for the sake of complaining. He didn’t sit on the shelf for a week, he didn’t get in for TWO GAMES.

    And when Joe uses him often, people will claim he is abusing him.

    Joe can’t win.

  1694. Pel (Uncertainty is certain.) May 5th, 2009 at 10:35 pm

    when it rains it pours

  1695. YankeeRay May 5th, 2009 at 10:35 pm

    Does anyone disagree with me that if Bay hits FA we need to sign him at all costs?

  1696. Tex's friend (Best 5 ever) May 5th, 2009 at 10:35 pm

    walked the bases loaded?

  1697. Teixeiramvp (JobaCyYoung) May 5th, 2009 at 10:35 pm

    Melancon’s awesome. He just hasn’t pitched and is not sharp.

  1698. Chubbo May 5th, 2009 at 10:35 pm

    Melancon is the most overhyped prospect this side of Kei Igawa.

    FUTURE CLOSER??

    YAH MMkay…

    “Closer Stuff”

    I hate when they lie to us…

  1699. C May 5th, 2009 at 10:36 pm

    SOMEONE NEEDS TO GO

  1700. S.A.--It's a marathon, not a sprint. Calm down. May 5th, 2009 at 10:36 pm

    Well this is a scary situation

  1701. Donnie May 5th, 2009 at 10:36 pm

    Is Girardi really just gonna leave him out there to walk batter after batter? I mean, really?

  1702. steve May 5th, 2009 at 10:36 pm

    Yeah… Melancon hasn’t pitched since… Friday. Wow, he got a whole 2 games off, he is going to be rusty!!

    He should get into games every day!!!!!!

  1703. CaptainsCorner May 5th, 2009 at 10:36 pm

    I think everyone is fooling themselves if they think that this team is going anywhere with the clowns in this bullpen. They can’t even pitch 1 inning without giving up a run..

  1704. Angel - A tale told by idiots, full of sound and fury - signifying nothing. May 5th, 2009 at 10:36 pm

    When was Melancon used last?

  1705. dave May 5th, 2009 at 10:36 pm

    Betsy,

    You have got to be kidding me! Cervelli is catching tomorrow. Is that the same cervelli that is in trenton batting an abysmal 190 avg and 266 obp? How can we promote someone two levels that is struggling at the plate in double A? Wow – talk about an automatic out.

    I guess this is why girardi left melancon out of the game. He must be nervous i guess. I thought this kid didnt really get nervous as they were gushing over his inability to get rattled. Yet, here he is in a 6-3 game the yanks are pretty much out of walking the park.

  1706. mmx May 5th, 2009 at 10:36 pm

    Man. 3 straight walks.

  1707. aaron from albany May 5th, 2009 at 10:36 pm

    I haven’t chimed in for awhile, but I dont know who you people get your info on.. so far these past two people you have raved about Melancon and Gardner have absolutely sucked.. You people better scout your players a hell of a lot better before you preach about them.. I’ll give melancon a lil more time, but gardner blows, he wouldn’t even start on my varsity baseball team i coach

  1708. Boston Dave May 5th, 2009 at 10:36 pm

    “Boston Dave-Exactly. They could have taken four of five but they couldn’t get it done.”

    —-

    my point is… how far away are the Yankees from winning some of those games?

    My answer is not far. There are 140 games to go, not 20.

    Take Pujols, Manny, Youkilis, Beltran, from their teams and tell me what happens.

  1709. Chris May 5th, 2009 at 10:36 pm

    I notice RGR’s utter stupidity is still filtering through to this blog.

    You can set your watch to it.

  1710. AD May 5th, 2009 at 10:36 pm

    To all the fools who wanted Melancon in over Alby last inning, please insert foot in mouth.

    Enough with the Girardi bashing. The guy has no one to go to in the pen. This is absolute insanity. What manager of an “elite” ball club has to go through this every single night?

  1711. Betsy May 5th, 2009 at 10:37 pm

    It’s only been two days I think since Melancon’s pitched – it’s worse for Robertson.

  1712. carl May 5th, 2009 at 10:37 pm

    If Bay comes to the yankees he will suck. We don’t need a 31 year old outfielder.

  1713. stuart May 5th, 2009 at 10:37 pm

    If Melancon cannot hack it that is a problem.. a big problem he has the pedigree the others do not

  1714. SJ44 May 5th, 2009 at 10:37 pm

    Back to Scranton for Melancon. Another guy not ready for primetime.

    They may need to bring in a starter to get 3 outs and finish this game. I don’t think they have anybody in pen but Mo who can get 3 outs.

  1715. Boston Dave May 5th, 2009 at 10:37 pm

    “Yeah… Melancon hasn’t pitched since… Friday. Wow, he got a whole 2 games off, he is going to be rusty!!”

    ———-

    I love Melancon too but some of the people in here act like he’s already a proven stud reliever at the MLB level.

  1716. DYNASTY IS DESTINY! May 5th, 2009 at 10:38 pm

    How would you like to be the pitcher coming in with a 2-0 count and the bases loaded?

    Wow…

    Why didn’t he wait till 3-0?

    Unreal…

  1717. Ace May 5th, 2009 at 10:38 pm

    Boston Dave. Take Youkilis away from the Red Sox and they win at least 6-3 against the Yankees.

    Case in point: tonight.

  1718. V Torch May 5th, 2009 at 10:38 pm

    Oh please, stop with the excuses.

    Now Melancon, who had 3 days off (2 games), is rusty and that’s what this performance is being blamed on?

    You people are acting like this is Edwar sitting for 2 weeks back in 07.

    Two games. And he can’t throw a strike?

  1719. pc69 May 5th, 2009 at 10:38 pm

    Man, the Yankee bull pen is just atrocious. There is just no other way to describe it. Can’t get anyone out to save their lives. Does Mo even pitch for the Yankees anymore?

    It is hard to maintain a level head but someone needs to be held accountable for putting together a bullpen that AAA does not even want.

    This is why overpaying for CC, Tex, and ARod hurts the Yankees. So much unnecessary money spent that they can’t provide the proper support to win games.

    Yikes!

  1720. Teixeiramvp (JobaCyYoung) May 5th, 2009 at 10:38 pm

    Chubbo-I still believe it. He hasn’t pitched in a couple of games and it’s a rainy day.
    Anyway, it’s not like it matters.

  1721. Steve Balboni May 5th, 2009 at 10:38 pm

    Hmm, maybe Girardi knows more about Melancon’s abilities then a bunch of internet posters?

  1722. GreenBeret7 May 5th, 2009 at 10:38 pm

    Enough of the BS with “Melancon hasn’t pitched in a week”. He pitched on the 1st of May. There was a rainout on the 3rd. You wizards can do simple math, I suppose.

  1723. Jerry May 5th, 2009 at 10:38 pm

    $200 mils just couldn’t fix pitching issue, not even a little bit.

    0-5 so far vs. RedSox.
    This team is disgraceful.

  1724. Trevor May 5th, 2009 at 10:38 pm

    When was the last Melancon pitched before tonight. Got to pitch guys to keep them sharp.
    Kay is a moron “got to feel bad for Girardi with the pen” Huh? umm Michael his pen management part of the problem. :roll:

    Melancon should have been used in previous games against the Angels to help get the nerves out.

  1725. Pasqua May 5th, 2009 at 10:38 pm

    I’m not going to waste a lot of energy defending Girardi, but THE thing that he was commended for last year was the way he used the bullpen. To now call it a firing-worthy weakness seems kinda hasty.

  1726. Chubbo May 5th, 2009 at 10:38 pm

    I haven’t chimed in for awhile, but I dont know who you people get your info on.. so far these past two people you have raved about Melancon and Gardner have absolutely sucked.. You people better scout your players a hell of a lot better before you preach about them.. I’ll give melancon a lil more time, but gardner blows, he wouldn’t even start on my varsity baseball team i coach

    I’ve never seen your team(Varsity) but I agree!!

  1727. Tex's friend (Best 5 ever) May 5th, 2009 at 10:38 pm

    girardi isnt the problem. pen, injuries and lack of clutch hitting.

  1728. Angel - A tale told by idiots, full of sound and fury - signifying nothing. May 5th, 2009 at 10:38 pm

    Sheeeeeesh. I am so not getting this at all. He leaves Melancon in there to get in trouble, and then brings Robertson in with the bases loaded?

    Absolutely bizarre.

  1729. Teixeiramvp (JobaCyYoung) May 5th, 2009 at 10:38 pm

    V Torch-Well, yeah.

  1730. mmxd fans. May 5th, 2009 at 10:39 pm

    Cashman should be fired 2 years ago along with Torre.

  1731. dave May 5th, 2009 at 10:39 pm

    GREAT F’in confidence booster. This pen is such a disaster right now. WHERE IS STUART RIGHT NOW???? Are you watching this buddy? Here you go – your best bullpen in the league last season that doesnt need any help or whatever you were saying earlier. You really still believe this pen is one that cash believed was perfectly fine two months ago? And if he did think that, he is cleearly not doing his job because i should not be able to predict what will happen to this team better than he can and i knew this pen needed some help.

  1732. RS May 5th, 2009 at 10:39 pm

    Nothing but a sweep of the two Rays games should be acceptable at this point.

  1733. stuart May 5th, 2009 at 10:39 pm

    cannot see the game melancon missing by a lot?

    he may be on a plane towmmorow, wow….

  1734. CaptainsCorner May 5th, 2009 at 10:39 pm

    Pedro for the bullpen?! I am only half serious….

  1735. MaineYankee May 5th, 2009 at 10:39 pm

    randy

    You can’t go shopping for new bullpen every week like grocerys. :lol:

    My guess is that he thinks they can pitch like they did last year. Not happening now but they did look some better tonight.

  1736. Bronx Jeers May 5th, 2009 at 10:39 pm

    Alright so it only took 14 balls to go and get him.

    Progress.

    Meanwhile I think we need a system to flush out the impostors.

    Something like the one they used in WW11

    Flash? Thunder!

  1737. Teixeiramvp (JobaCyYoung) May 5th, 2009 at 10:39 pm

    I still like Gardy and Melancon.

  1738. HillBilllShakespeare May 5th, 2009 at 10:39 pm

    Yankees are not good at baseball.

  1739. Nick in SF May 5th, 2009 at 10:39 pm

    No pressure, kid!

  1740. robbie -- "FIRE CASHMAN...FOR THE LOVE OF BASEBALL GODS!!!" May 5th, 2009 at 10:40 pm

    FIRE CASHMAN!!!!!!!! HE’S THE DUMBEST GM IN ALL SPORTS….

  1741. A-Rod: Redefining Choke May 5th, 2009 at 10:40 pm

    Seriously Pete? Melancon is the answer to our bullpen woes? It’s gonna be a long year.

  1742. Zodiac May 5th, 2009 at 10:40 pm

    Welcome to the big leagues, Mr. Mahlanson!!!

    You’ll fit right in with Edwar, Veras, Albaladejo, and Marte!

  1743. Teixeiramvp (JobaCyYoung) May 5th, 2009 at 10:40 pm

    dave, I came into this series saying they needed to sweep these games.

  1744. james May 5th, 2009 at 10:40 pm

    hey, you know the strikezone on Gamecast? Any chance we can set one of those up for Melancon to see?

  1745. stuart May 5th, 2009 at 10:40 pm

    Dave you friggin moron I said 5th but hell with the facts.

    I assume you are about an 18 yr old overwight, zit faced punk….

  1746. Joba;s Mom sold me an 8-Ball May 5th, 2009 at 10:40 pm

    Gepetto with the mid-count hook on his boy- ouch

  1747. KO May 5th, 2009 at 10:40 pm

    Can we please ship out our entire bullpen besides Rivera and Bruney when gets back…. all these guys are worthless.. bring up more AAA, even AA people, trade for someone, i dont care try something… these guys are all scrubs… our offense doesnt even get enough chances to come back in games with this crap pitching.. so frustrating…. at least throw strikes, walking people and having no command is just unacceptable… lets see if Robertson can actually get a couple more outs

  1748. Angel - A tale told by idiots, full of sound and fury - signifying nothing. May 5th, 2009 at 10:41 pm

    If not, fix it and fix it now or the Steinbrenners will find somebody who can. Believe me, they aren’t paying this kind of coin for a team this bad throughout the season.

    *****************************************************

    I think that belief is half the problem with this franchise.

  1749. HillBilllShakespeare May 5th, 2009 at 10:41 pm

    this is when edwar should be pitching. He needs to use Robertson more…

  1750. DMan77 May 5th, 2009 at 10:41 pm

    Let’s get mad at the bullpen.

    But the hitters had their chances tonight too, and they blew it.

  1751. Giuseppe Franco May 5th, 2009 at 10:41 pm

    Unfortunately, this is going to really set Melancon back in the Girardi pecking order.

    He and Robertson are now in duo mop up duty roles.

  1752. carl May 5th, 2009 at 10:41 pm

    Pedro has more heart than anyone in the BP.

  1753. DVAB May 5th, 2009 at 10:42 pm

    TO be 13-13, and have the Sux only 3.5 games ahead of us at 17-10 after going 0-5 against them to start the season is not the end of the world….but it still S*CKS !

  1754. Tex's friend (Best 5 ever) May 5th, 2009 at 10:42 pm

    bay will come to the yankees and hit .250 and be unable to hit in the clutch. why bother?

  1755. Clint May 5th, 2009 at 10:42 pm

    “Hmm, maybe Girardi knows more about Melancon’s abilities then a bunch of internet posters?”

    Yet another night where the computer chair managers get owned.

  1756. SJ44 May 5th, 2009 at 10:42 pm

    Dave,

    That’s BS. The Red Sox have Ortiz hitting .200, no Dice-K, Beckett getting hammered in his starts and they find a way to win 5 games.

    The injuries are an excuse. You can’t win with a bullpen consisting of these guys.

    I don’t care if Arod is here and they bring back Joe D and Mickey Mantle from the dead, this bullpen can’t pitch.

    Unless they are up by at least 10 in the 6th innings, the games are losses.

    They are getting worse and not better. Its not one or two guys. Its everybody.

    This team needs to find 5 relief pitchers yesterday.

    If not, then the starters are going to have to pitch 8 innings every night, regardless of pitch count. That’s pretty tough to do in today’s baseball.

  1757. S.A.--It's a marathon, not a sprint. Calm down. May 5th, 2009 at 10:42 pm

    come on David

  1758. aaron from albany May 5th, 2009 at 10:43 pm

    i agree girardi has no control over the pen and it sucks, but the players have no fire.. they’re dead. they’re boring to watch , they need some fu*king fire in their eyes.. they have NONE

  1759. Betsy May 5th, 2009 at 10:43 pm

    O Dawg, I know what you’re saying, but there have been successful managers in NY before. It’s really not asking a lot of your manager not to panic – and managing to save your job is a terrible way to manage. That pisses me off about Joe. Firing Joe won’t solve the problem though because the team still has no viable catcher and no bench. I am a HUGE supporter of Cashman, but he has to do better by this team. Now granted I don’t know what budget constraints Hal has set….

  1760. Teixeiramvp (JobaCyYoung) May 5th, 2009 at 10:43 pm

    Amazingly, still no runs allowed, at least accordng to the Yanks site.

  1761. Pat M May 5th, 2009 at 10:43 pm

    Maybe Robertson can make a statement tonight….

  1762. DonnieBaseball May 5th, 2009 at 10:43 pm

    so much for that comeback on Friday night being the turning point in the season! haha I blame Sabathia and the offense for Saturday’s loss and the end of the winning streak. I blame the bullpen and the choke artist offense for these two losses.

  1763. NHYankee62 May 5th, 2009 at 10:43 pm

    To make matters worse I’m forced to watch every Yankees-Sux game on NESN (which is still better than BSPN).
    Even though I paid $200 for the extra innings package, they still black out the Yankees feed and force me to put up with the NESN garbage.
    Those pieces of garbage were just laughing at us as Melancon walked off the mound. Very classy!!

  1764. SJ44's Overreactions May 5th, 2009 at 10:43 pm

    In 2008, I wanted to get rid of Bruney and trade Cano. Now I want to DFA the bullpen. Weeeee.

  1765. Bronx Jeers May 5th, 2009 at 10:43 pm

    Don’t mess with “The Cannon”!

  1766. HillBilllShakespeare May 5th, 2009 at 10:43 pm

    ship out Veras and Edwar and Albadagarbage, trade gardner and kennedy for some decent reliever, hope that Marte remembers how to pitch after he’s done making excuses about his disgusting performance thus far this season.

  1767. dave May 5th, 2009 at 10:43 pm

    i DONT QUITE know what to make of that outing by melancon. Its not like this is his first time pitching. He hasnt taken significant time off in between games pitched. He did pretty decent his first two games. Even when he got in trouble, he seemed to get out of it without much trouble. I dont quite understand what that was all about. Maybe melancon just didnt have it tonight. Maybe he was expecting to come in earlier in the game and got thrown off by when he was coming in. I know, I KNOW melancon is much better than that for sure.

    I remember i said there was a lot of positives coming out of the game yesterday. I only see a single positive coming out of the game today – joba’s start. Outside of that, this has been just a miserable game all around. Poor hitting, terrible pen, mediocre defense and base running. Im pretty disgusted right now. This team cant seem to do hardly anything right about now. Even robertson getting out of this, doesnt mean all that much IMO.

  1768. Nick May 5th, 2009 at 10:44 pm

    Melancon pitched on Friday
    Robertson pitched on Saturday

    Stop acting like they have sat for a week.

  1769. pc69 May 5th, 2009 at 10:44 pm

    On the up side, Torre has the Dodgers playing well. They are up 3-0 right now.

  1770. Teixeiramvp (JobaCyYoung) May 5th, 2009 at 10:44 pm

    DVAB-That sums up my attitude exactly.

  1771. NYbronx May 5th, 2009 at 10:44 pm

    damnit why can’t we beat the sox? They better pound the Rays for the next couple days

  1772. carl May 5th, 2009 at 10:45 pm

    A-Rod is the best in the game. He will also move one of the auto outs to the bench.

  1773. DVAB May 5th, 2009 at 10:45 pm

    Thress Strikes called 3 balls…what a fr*kin joke

  1774. randy l. May 5th, 2009 at 10:45 pm

    “You can’t go shopping for new bullpen every week like grocerys.”
    maine yankee-

    then those ketchup sandwiches are going to be getting pretty old for joe.

  1775. DVAB May 5th, 2009 at 10:45 pm

    Three Strikes called 3 balls…what a fr*kin joke

  1776. Trevor May 5th, 2009 at 10:45 pm

    That was strike 3.

  1777. Devon May 5th, 2009 at 10:45 pm

    Where was that?

  1778. Hmm May 5th, 2009 at 10:46 pm

    He threw 5 strikes in that at bat.

  1779. Paranoid Android May 5th, 2009 at 10:46 pm

    Ruckus time.

  1780. JakeyC May 5th, 2009 at 10:46 pm

    How you going to trade Kennedy isn’t he hurt?

  1781. Christopher May 5th, 2009 at 10:46 pm

    I like how everyone wants A-Roid back. He’s not going to help much with Albalasuckaho blowing the game in the last couple innings EVERY TIME. He’s like the anti-closer.

  1782. Joe I May 5th, 2009 at 10:46 pm

    Bailey gets hit with a pitch to load the bases and now walked with the bases loaded. Can someone tell the Yankees bullpen this guy is not Albert Pujols.

  1783. carl May 5th, 2009 at 10:47 pm

    Lol at the strike zone on Bailey.

  1784. HillBilllShakespeare May 5th, 2009 at 10:47 pm

    since when are relievers supposed to have 5 days rest??? Is everyone on this team a damphanded sissy?

  1785. Betsy May 5th, 2009 at 10:47 pm

    Dave, someone said that Cervelli will be catching AJ tomorrow – I don’t know that it’s true, but knowing Joe, you betcha. Also, Molina may have been hurt tonight? Again, this isn’t about personal catchers – I don’t think Cervelli should catch anyone until he gets to know them somewhat

    Melancon is struggling just like I knew he would – he’s a kid, no matter his experience in the minors, not a savior. I feel for him, but that’s life in the big leagues.

  1786. Nick in SF May 5th, 2009 at 10:47 pm

    David Robertson, welcome to the Circle of Trust!

    ;)

  1787. Teixeiramvp (JobaCyYoung) May 5th, 2009 at 10:47 pm

    I think everybody naturally reacts to close alls badly when your team is losing.
    I’m not watching but I’m willing to bet those balls were pretty close.

  1788. SJ44 May 5th, 2009 at 10:47 pm

    Yeah, let’s keep the bullpen in tact moron. That makes sense.

    Its the worst bullpen in baseball. Keep it intact, you might as well talk about 2010.

    What an awful perfomance.

    Just shows, this team is no where close to being ready to compete for a playoff spot unless they find an awful lot of players in the coming months.

    Its a team woefully short on pitching talent right now.

  1789. randy l. May 5th, 2009 at 10:47 pm

    barring a miraculous comeback, i’m going to channel nostradamus and predict it’s going to be a rough day on the blog tomorrow.

  1790. CaptainsCorner May 5th, 2009 at 10:47 pm

    Besides getting 5 new bullpen arms..Cash needs to bring up Miranda, Duncan or John Rodriguez for the bench. You can’t have Pena and Molina batting in the 7th-9th innings of games you would like to win. They desperately need someone to come off the bench and hit for the catcher in the late innings.

  1791. DVAB May 5th, 2009 at 10:48 pm

    this ump is an a-hole…ALL of the pitches to that last batter were strikes….then the 1st one here, is well off the plate….STRIKE CALLED ??? IDIOT !!!

  1792. Paulie May 5th, 2009 at 10:48 pm

    Amazing. Red Sox score a run without a hit. Unbelievable! Maybe the Yanks should just jeep their bats on the shoulders with RISPs

  1793. Trevor May 5th, 2009 at 10:48 pm

    Not the hitters you want up if looking to come from behind.

  1794. JakeyC May 5th, 2009 at 10:48 pm

    “damnit why can’t we beat the sox? They better pound the Rays for the next couple days”

    If they can score they’ll be fine. Hopefully they’ll win the series against Tampa Bay

  1795. Donnie May 5th, 2009 at 10:48 pm

    Given the circumstances, that was actually pretty good pitching by Robertson. That ball 4 was VERY close to being a strike, and the ump looked like he WANTED to call it a strike. I don’t know why Girardi continues to go to the Clown Crew when Robertson has proven to not TOTALLY suck.

  1796. 7 UP May 5th, 2009 at 10:49 pm

    We should be like the Washing Nationals and DFA the whole pen.

  1797. Pat M May 5th, 2009 at 10:49 pm

    Should have been punched out right then Bailey

  1798. Devon May 5th, 2009 at 10:49 pm

    I hope Saito’s arm snaps off

  1799. Patrick May 5th, 2009 at 10:49 pm

    Our bullpen stinks but Girardi is also horrible at managing it

    I don’t know what happened between 08 and 09. Last year it was his strength, this year he is Joe Torre 2.0

  1800. HillBilllShakespeare May 5th, 2009 at 10:50 pm

    Trade Molina and let Sabathia play catcher, maybe he won’t be 0 for ten thousand with RISP.

  1801. CB May 5th, 2009 at 10:50 pm

    Melancon failed in that appearance.

    But not two differently from countless times that Albaladejo, Veras and Ramirez have already failed this year.

    Here’s the different – Melancon has good stuff. Even in this appearance where he was clearly nervous you could see it.

    The point of this is that if you don’t give the younger guys a shot and you keep sticking to Veras, Ramirez and Albaladejo like they are some kind of religion then the pen isn’t going to get better.

    If things aren’t working then you have to experiment.

    And it makes no sense to throw Melancon into in his first few appearances and then to relegate him to the back of the pen because he threw a pitch that got hit with the bases loaded against the angels.

    Using him in this herky jerky way isn’t going to help his confidence.

    What is the upside of trying Albaladejo yet again. Albaladejo has been a journeyman his entire career. As has veras. As has Ramirez.

    And look. He gave Robertson a shot with the bases loaded an no outs. Robertson walked in a run which is terrible. But on the whole he did a nice job given the situation.

    If you don’t take chances things will stay the same.

    This is the same exact thing that Torre did.

  1802. Timothy Gaydosh May 5th, 2009 at 10:50 pm

    Is it me or does anyone else think that the bullpen shouldn’t take all the heat for their screwups. I know its a weird thing to say but i swear its like girardi manages the bullpen like shuffling a deck of cards, he gets way too antsy with relievers and can’t “just let them pitch”, even when a guy gets 2 straight outs hes always thinking about who to put in next. watching the 6th, 7th, and 8th innings of close games you see more commercials than baseball, it’s ridiculous!! I’m stuck up at school in CT having to watch the NESN broadcast. The announcers aren’t taking shots at the Yanks tonight, but their actually AMAZED at the amount of relievers Girardi uses. It’s been 6 over 3.1 innings!!! “You’d swear the game was 15-1″ Jerry Remy i despise the Red Sox and can’t believe we haven’t won a single game against them yet..

  1803. SJ44's Overreactions May 5th, 2009 at 10:50 pm

    LEt’s trade our bullpen to the Nationals! They have a good bullpen!

    Or the Mets!

  1804. Jerry May 5th, 2009 at 10:50 pm

    Yankees amazingly find out a way to torture their fans nightly. Job well done!

  1805. carl May 5th, 2009 at 10:50 pm

    Just call A-Rod up tonight.

  1806. Vince May 5th, 2009 at 10:50 pm

    Pete, for the millionth time. The idea is to groom Joba to be the future. No one thinks it is a good idea to keep him as a set up man for his career.

    But never mind, Melancon is the savior, right?

  1807. Gates May 5th, 2009 at 10:50 pm

    Time to bring up Mike Dunn

    He will save the pen, I guarantee it.

  1808. Jeff in MA May 5th, 2009 at 10:50 pm

    I feel like I’m watching an Expos game. Empty stadium and a team with zero confidence.

    They can hit better than this. They can pitch better than this. Injuries be damned.

  1809. GreenBeret7 May 5th, 2009 at 10:50 pm

    randy l.
    May 5th, 2009 at 10:47 pm
    barring a miraculous comeback, i’m going to channel nostradamus and predict it’s going to be a rough day on the blog tomorrow.

    ————————————————————

    It’s not exactly an evening with Kiana Tom right now.

  1810. Nick in SF May 5th, 2009 at 10:50 pm

    ketchup sandwiches? Sloppy Joes!

  1811. robbie -- "FIRE CASHMAN...FOR THE LOVE OF BASEBALL GODS!!!" May 5th, 2009 at 10:50 pm

    Yankee Front Office….. All Money No Brain!!!!!!!!!

  1812. S.A.--It's a marathon, not a sprint. Calm down. May 5th, 2009 at 10:50 pm

    That could have been worse. Tough spot for David to come in

    Do the Yankees have a miracle bottom of the 9th in em? :?

  1813. DYNASTY IS DESTINY! May 5th, 2009 at 10:50 pm

    Why would Girardi wait till Melancon walks the bases loaded, then runs the count to 2-0, before going to Robertson…

    I don’t think I’ve ever seen that before and it makes absolutely no sense to me…

  1814. Teixeiramvp (JobaCyYoung) May 5th, 2009 at 10:51 pm

    Donnie-Overmanagement of rookies, a textbook case.

  1815. Donnie May 5th, 2009 at 10:51 pm

    Just think, guys, this time next week, A-Rod will be jacking bases empty home runs in these situations!

  1816. carl May 5th, 2009 at 10:51 pm

    We aren’t scoring anyway. Doesn’t matter what the score is.

  1817. Eric May 5th, 2009 at 10:52 pm

    The Mets bullpen is ranked 1st in the NL, FYI

    They have the 8th-9th inning locked down

    Parnell is a real young stud, unlike the ones we have.

    Shawn Green who has a 7 ERA is better than anyone we have

    Feliciano is a better lefty than anyone we have

    Brian Stokes is better than anyone we have

    Say what you want about Omar, but he turned the worst pen in baseball into the best.

  1818. Rob Thompson May 5th, 2009 at 10:52 pm

    Tell me again why the Yankees didn’t go hard after Saito? This guy would look pretty good in the 8th inning – don’t ya think?

  1819. NHYankee62 May 5th, 2009 at 10:52 pm

    As bad as things look right now, they’ll figure it out (stop jumping off the bridge)

    CC will be CC.

    AJ will pitch well

    Wang will be back and be a solid #2

    Pettitte will be solid

    Joba will continue to get better and Hughes will be an asset.

    The pen will get straightened out, especially when we get Bruney back. ONe of these kids, Melancon or Robertson will be alright.

    The strength of this team is the starters and they will carry this team. I still say the Yankees win it all this year.

    Mark it down. You heard it here first.

    Sincerely,

    NHYankee62

  1820. Teixeiramvp (JobaCyYoung) May 5th, 2009 at 10:52 pm

    Donnie-Those bases empty HR’s would have helped a lot in thse games.
    I’ll take it as long as he does it 40-50 times a year.

  1821. robbie -- "FIRE CASHMAN...FOR THE LOVE OF BASEBALL GODS!!!" May 5th, 2009 at 10:53 pm

    That New Yankee Stadium will be a ghost town in a couple of weeks if they continue to play as poor as this…. solution is…. FIRE CASHMAN…..

  1822. Johnny D. May 5th, 2009 at 10:53 pm

    Girardi is gone tonight.

  1823. Betsy May 5th, 2009 at 10:53 pm

    CB, well said. It’s almost like Joe took Melancon’s performance against the Angels personally? Now again, it’s only been two games for him…so he hasn’t sat around forever. I think Joe has issues developing young pitchers…….it’s just a complete 180 from last year. He’s managing scared. Of course it doesn’t help that the Yanks are allergic to RISP…….

  1824. RGR May 5th, 2009 at 10:53 pm

    Yankees resigned Humberto Sanchez today. Maybe he could help?

  1825. CaptainsCorner May 5th, 2009 at 10:53 pm

    Is Tex going to wait until June to hit?! Besides the pitching the hitting has been putrid…They score there runs in 1 inning and then relax for the rest of the night..They get 1 home run a game and then its back to bed.

  1826. SJ44's Overreactions May 5th, 2009 at 10:54 pm

    “The Mets bullpen is ranked 1st in the NL, FYI

    They have the 8th-9th inning locked down

    Parnell is a real young stud, unlike the ones we have.

    Shawn Green who has a 7 ERA is better than anyone we have

    Feliciano is a better lefty than anyone we have

    Brian Stokes is better than anyone we have

    Say what you want about Omar, but he turned the worst pen in baseball into the best.”

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

    Come back in September. :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

  1827. randy l. May 5th, 2009 at 10:54 pm

    sj 44
    i can hear the anger in your posts. in the good old days george would likewise be getting his dander up.

    i’m not sure anyone in the yankee organization gets angry anymore when the team is embarrassed , and that’s not a good thing.

  1828. Tex's friend (Best 5 ever) May 5th, 2009 at 10:54 pm

    strike zone has been crap this series. mlb really needs to do something about this.

  1829. King Kong May 5th, 2009 at 10:54 pm

    Mets fire Manual, they start playing with a spark and went from a under .500 uninspired team to a team with an edge that missed the playoffs by 1 game.

    Toronto fires Gibbons, they have the best record in baseball

    Milwaukee fires Yoast, they make the playoffs

    Seattle fired Hargrove in 07, and they have a magical season, threatening us for the wild card down the stretch

    Firing a manager has almost always gotten the team off on a spark.

  1830. Pel (Uncertainty is certain.) May 5th, 2009 at 10:54 pm

    gardner k’s with the bat on his shoulder. take notice folks. that’s a RARE occurence.

  1831. CaptainsCorner May 5th, 2009 at 10:55 pm

    Ofcourse those pitches off the corner are strikes to Gardner but Robertson’s pitches aren’t. Have to love the fair strike zone…

  1832. RGR May 5th, 2009 at 10:55 pm

    Rob Thompson,

    Its because the Yankees dont go into the season expecting injuries

  1833. Coach6423 May 5th, 2009 at 10:55 pm

    Its amazing how different the strike zone is for different hitters…

  1834. Broken Dream May 5th, 2009 at 10:55 pm

    HillBilllShakespeare May 5th, 2009 at 10:39 pm

    Yankees are not good at baseball.

    —————-

    Post of the year!

  1835. Devon May 5th, 2009 at 10:55 pm

    Only the Sox can sign crap injury prone players that do well.

  1836. daver May 5th, 2009 at 10:55 pm

    have we hit rock bottom yet?

  1837. Teixeiramvp (JobaCyYoung) May 5th, 2009 at 10:55 pm

    We need two things, in this order from most to least important: Bullpen and bench.

  1838. Donnie May 5th, 2009 at 10:55 pm

    Teixeiramvp,

    During the flow of the game, yes, I’m sure he’ll drop his fair share of bombs. I meant more that he’d be doing it in the bottom of the 9th, down 4, when that homerun only allows us to lose by 3.

  1839. Nick in SF May 5th, 2009 at 10:56 pm

    We just got experimentally stem celled. Ouch.

    Get ‘em tomorrow.

  1840. CaptainsCorner May 5th, 2009 at 10:56 pm

    My grandma is faster then Jeter….

  1841. EvoLuTioN May 5th, 2009 at 10:56 pm

    awesome team

    if we keep putting this same team out there daily we won’t end the year over .500

  1842. Rob Thompson May 5th, 2009 at 10:56 pm

    Uggh!! Wish I would have listened to my roommate and watched The Biggest Loser tonight instead.

  1843. EvoLuTioN May 5th, 2009 at 10:57 pm

    bringing a .234 hitter off the bench is really going to help us

  1844. pc69 May 5th, 2009 at 10:57 pm

    Well, another tough 2 game series starting tomorrow for the might mighty yanks.

    Then onto Baltimore. By the end of the weekend they could be in last place or tied for last place.

  1845. David May 5th, 2009 at 10:57 pm

    Girardi doesn’t use Melancon and Robertson for a whole 2 days and people come to the conclusion that he doesn’t trust them

    Some real geniuses on this blog. And Melancon looked great in that outing. As usual, he knows more than the fans.

  1846. The Bronx is Burnt May 5th, 2009 at 10:58 pm

    No bullpen, no bench, no balls… This team makes me sick. Bring on Tony Pena.

  1847. S.A.--It's a marathon, not a sprint. Calm down. May 5th, 2009 at 10:58 pm

    Mets fire Manual, they start playing with a spark and went from a under .500 uninspired team to a team with an edge that missed the playoffs by 1 game.

    ================================

    Randolph

  1848. Patrick May 5th, 2009 at 10:58 pm

    When the team loses it really exposes the weakness of Cashman and Girardi.

    Brett Gardner is PINCH HITTING because he is the best bat on the bench. Oh look he struck out looking.

    Jose Molina was at bat with men on 2nd and 3rd when a hit could have given the Yanks a lead.

    Both of those situations are inexcusable and are all on Cashman. Having 13 pitchers on the roster is incredibly stupid. Especially when 3 of those pitchers are 100% useless.

    Then we see Girardi using Albaladejo in a close game and grossly mismanage his young relievers that actually have potential.

    I’m not even going to get into the players’ failures. Lack of clutch hitting, no length out of the starter and abysmal bullpen.

    I’m still holding out hope for this team but things have to at the top for us to have any shot at the playoffs.

  1849. disgruntledfan May 5th, 2009 at 10:58 pm

    They better take down the Rays

  1850. Teixeiramvp (JobaCyYoung) May 5th, 2009 at 10:58 pm

    Donnie-It would still help.
    Say he Homers in the first inning of this game or that one where Mo blew the save.
    Whole different game, right?

  1851. vb03 May 5th, 2009 at 10:58 pm

    “Uggh!! Wish I would have listened to my roommate and watched The Biggest Loser tonight instead.”

    Actually, you did! More like “The Biggest Losers”. It’s a total team effort to be embarrassed like this.

  1852. dave May 5th, 2009 at 10:58 pm

    SJ,

    I agree with pretty much everything you said. This horrendous bullpen is definitely a team effort at this point. They all are contributing to this horrendous display. But can you really blame the injuries? I mean bruney is certainly crucial but even if he was here, we would need more than just him and mo and coke. And I am not yet convinced that marte will be solid here so we will see.

    Stuart,

    I didnt say the best bullpen in the league, I said your best bullpen. I know you didn’t say the best in the league earlier and never said you did. Your comments make just as much sense as they did earlier which is NO SENSE whatsoever. Where do you get that description from exactly? I am in medical school, not high school as others on this blog already know. And what is with the insults? They dont do anything except make you look dumb. And I dont think I said anything all that incorrect about what you said earlier, did I? If so, I apologize but you were arguing with me that the pen really should not need any help and/or that I did not think they needed help in the off-season. I think this game proves even more that this pen does need something to put it back on the right track and you will just have to take me at my word that I have been saying the yanks need a solid veteran reliever since the off-season. I dont know how else to prove it to you unless someone else around here remembers me talking about it because I did mention that a good hundred times if not more.

  1853. Back Bench May 5th, 2009 at 10:58 pm

    There must be another Ortiz shirt buried in the new stadium somewhere. Maybe under the bullpen.

  1854. CaptainsCorner May 5th, 2009 at 10:59 pm

    Girardi is lucky if he makes it threw the season with the way this team is playing…

  1855. 34 Score May 5th, 2009 at 10:59 pm

    And we go down 1-2-3 against an awful Saito

    The team has quit. They realize it is a lost cause with this bullpen and their entire approach has changed. Paul O’Neil alluded to this on Friday Night after the Angels game… the horrible pen is going to start to affect the rest of the team.

  1856. Angel - A tale told by idiots, full of sound and fury - signifying nothing. May 5th, 2009 at 11:00 pm

    Time for some Brit-coms I think. I need some silly, goofy, sarcastic humor to make me laugh.

  1857. Teixeiramvp (JobaCyYoung) May 5th, 2009 at 11:00 pm

    “Mets fire Manual, they start playing with a spark and went from a under .500 uninspired team to a team with an edge that missed the playoffs by 1 game.”-Annnd then they collapsed.
    That team was no better than before Willie left.
    Chnaging managers will do little if anything.

  1858. sunny615 May 5th, 2009 at 11:00 pm

    this team is sucking pretty hard

  1859. Jim May 5th, 2009 at 11:01 pm

    This is the most embarrassed I have ever been as a Yankee fan. It’s over…can you say fire sale!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  1860. jake May 5th, 2009 at 11:01 pm

    I think there Needs to be a BIG SHAKE UP.

    GIRARDI NEEDS TO BE FIRED

    Enough of this beginning of the season, wait until we get hot talk….ITS THE SEASON NOW.

    I dont know what they are gonna do, but they need to do something fast. THey are worried about selling tickets now? Wait until middle June when they are in last place, then they will know what its like to not sell tickets.

    I have absolutely no suggestions for a shake up because honestly, i dont think there’s anything this team can do to win. The bullpen is like a below average AAA team’s bullpen.

    I am just speechless right now after their performance so far this season….

  1861. E-Rod May 5th, 2009 at 11:01 pm

    The Red Sox own us and are in our heads

    We can beat every other team. Don’t be surprised if we rough up Tampa. They are not in our heads and are actually in our league, unlike Boston.

  1862. SJ44 May 5th, 2009 at 11:01 pm

    Randy,

    At this point, its not even worth getting mad about it.

    They aren’t good enough. Period.

    Its not the injuries, umpires, new stadium or anything else.

    They don’t have good enough players to beat the Red Sox right now. Especially among the pitching staff.

    If they want to sell that its a “rebuilding year”, then start shaving payroll.

    If not, then they need to find 6-8 pitchers who can throw the ball over the plate or there is no way Girardi survives this.

    I just can’t see this organization deciding, “that’s the way it is” and just keep rolling out the same slop every night.

    If that happens, then I don’t blame people if they don’t go to games the rest of the year.

    This team isn’t worth paying that much coin to play this poorly on an almost nightly basis.

  1863. Bronx Jeers May 5th, 2009 at 11:01 pm

    “The Yankees were last 0-5 to start the season against Boston in 1985. That led to Yogi Berra getting fired after 16 games”

    I was at Shea when they announced that. Yogi’s a legend but I think we were happy to get Billy Martin back.

    Yanks ended up winning 97 games but still finished 2nd. Sox were .500 and 4th

  1864. Trevor May 5th, 2009 at 11:01 pm

    Don’t mind seeing the Rays. Yanks have done well against them.

  1865. stuart May 5th, 2009 at 11:02 pm

    when theo traded manny for bay you guys were horse laughing the sox. now you want to “sign jason bay at all costs”. now i have to laugh!

  1866. All sorts of riffraff May 5th, 2009 at 11:03 pm

    Awful…just awful to watch.

    Joba was great after getting himself settled down but, again, our pitching staff is too tentative, has no fight, and doesn’t look ready. Melancon regressing this much in the majors? come on, folks…

    Dave Eiland needs to go. Tomorrow. Girardi has to be on a short lease. If this team is anywhere close to under .500 when June approaches, you need to cut the cord. You can’t let a bunch of kids have the keys to a Porsche.

    Other than that, I’m with most of the recommendations SJ has made to improve the team. It’s time to right a ship that should have never fallen off the track.

  1867. RC 16 May 5th, 2009 at 11:03 pm

    I love how people says “this team fights”, as if it excuses the awful performance in other aspects of the game.

    The old Devil Rays used to always fight and play hard. Yet they had no pitching and finished last for 10 years.

    Fight = overrated. Give me good pitching over fight any day.

  1868. Nick in SF May 5th, 2009 at 11:03 pm

    Well, if we just hit rock bottom, we’re in for some great things ahead, right?

  1869. CaptainsCorner May 5th, 2009 at 11:03 pm

    Those seats behind home plate are going to have less and less people with the way that this team is playing. Why would the wealthy people or anyone pay $1,250 and waste 4 hours watching this team play?! I watch them for free and can’t stand it.

  1870. Teixeiramvp (JobaCyYoung) May 5th, 2009 at 11:04 pm

    Come on guys, saying the team has quit is just ridiculous.
    They have not “quit”. They have come back countless times and may still win the division. They won’t beat the Sox, but if they win the division then who cares as long as they don’t meet them later on.
    We’re a good team with the potential to be a great one.

  1871. Pel (Uncertainty is certain.) May 5th, 2009 at 11:04 pm

    >We just got experimentally stem celled.

    We just got experimentally red blood celled in high concentration.

  1872. Betsy May 5th, 2009 at 11:05 pm

    34 Score, I don’t believe in any way that this team has quit; I’ve seen too many games this year that prove otherwise. A lack of execution does not equate to quitting.

    However, Paulie does make a very good point….It makes sense and I think it’s already started. How deflating is it to be totally taken out of a game when you’ve gotten yourself into it……or were leading? Of course, if they would hit better with RISP………

  1873. Broken Dream May 5th, 2009 at 11:05 pm

    Ladies and Gentlemen, I do believe we are not far from the day when we will hear, “the Yankees have scheduled a noon press conference at the stadium.”

  1874. S.A.--It's a marathon, not a sprint. Calm down. May 5th, 2009 at 11:05 pm

    Well, this place should be fun and by fun I mean Bellevue hospital psych ward fun.

    Let’s get a win tomorrow somehow.

  1875. ElGuapo May 5th, 2009 at 11:06 pm

    All I can say is that this team is in serious dire straits, all across. Front office, management, players.
    You might all disagree, but I find SJ44 and sometimes CB the voice of reason and objectivity in this blog. To see SJ lose his cool tonight is really worrying to me.
    At this point I don’t see either Girardi or Cashman last past the all-star break. This team has too many issues to make a clean run for the playoffs. And to think that everyone will start either hitting or pitching is complete nonsense.

  1876. Teixeiramvp (JobaCyYoung) May 5th, 2009 at 11:07 pm

    Bay is all of a sudden a Yankee killer.

  1877. hank hal May 5th, 2009 at 11:07 pm

    Cashman gets no blame?

    If Girardi gets fired, it would have been THREE managers in THREE YEARS, under his watch. Fired a HOF manager, fired a promising young manager, and now we’ll go to some retread like Pena or Valentine to save the season.

    Nobody sees anything wrong in that? You think it is normal for the same GM to oversee three managers in a three year period?

  1878. HillBilllShakespeare May 5th, 2009 at 11:08 pm

    molina has to be the worst hitter in the majors…. who is worse? he’s slow, hits into a crapload of double plays, strikes out alot, pops out alot, has nominal power, has no clutch, i don’t care how good a catcher this guy is. How can this team have the biggest payroll by far in the majors, and field a guy like this????!?!!?!?

  1879. disgruntledfan May 5th, 2009 at 11:08 pm

    My roommate is a redsox fan so i’m forced to listen to the redsox analysts and they’re already complaining about how Joba hit Bay on purpose. And they’re saying that if Beckett was going to go after someone why not jeter. Jackasses

  1880. HillBilllShakespeare May 5th, 2009 at 11:08 pm

    bring on montero.

  1881. rconn23 May 5th, 2009 at 11:09 pm

    It’s the worst bullpen I can remember the Yankees having in the last decade.

    Meanwhile, the Red Sox have the best bullpen in baseball.

    It’s not a rivalry anymore, folks.

  1882. Teixeiramvp (JobaCyYoung) May 5th, 2009 at 11:09 pm

    Glad Joba hit Bay.
    At least he tried to get a spark started.

  1883. randy l. May 5th, 2009 at 11:09 pm

    wow , jim rice on nesn is saying he didn’t think joba was throwing change ups and that he was just letting up on the fastball.

    great analysis jim.

  1884. daver May 5th, 2009 at 11:10 pm

    Those overpriced empty seats are an embarassment also. Talk about sucking away any energy and diminishing the homefield advantage.

  1885. Teixeiramvp (JobaCyYoung) May 5th, 2009 at 11:10 pm

    We’ll beat the Sox later in the season, I’m just woried these five games will be too much.

  1886. Betsy May 5th, 2009 at 11:10 pm

    Melancon is a victim of expectations – I never understood why people looked at him as a savior, not even having thrown 1 pitch in the majors.

    Where are we getting 6-8 relievers? It’s not happening – there’s no one in the minors (not that I would trust) and who are they going to trade for?

  1887. CaptainsCorner May 5th, 2009 at 11:11 pm

    The bullpen had nothing to do with this team losing the game..atleast early on. It was on the hitting. Besides the inning with Damon’s homerun and then the 7th inning with 2nd and 3rd they did absolutely nothing at the plate. They have too many innings where they go down 1,2,3 or just can not get anything going. Once again the automatic outs are killing them. Molina, Pena, Tex…Melky most of the time also but not today. When they pitch they don’t hit and vice versa.

  1888. Teixeiramvp (JobaCyYoung) May 5th, 2009 at 11:11 pm

    I still think Melancon’s the savior.

  1889. RS May 5th, 2009 at 11:12 pm

    Listen to this. CC Sabathia is a better hitter than our Opening Day center fielder (Gardner). In 88 career AB’s CC has a .261 BA with 3 homeruns and 13 RBI.

    When is it time to start pinch-hitting him for Molina, Pena, etc.?

  1890. Betsy May 5th, 2009 at 11:13 pm

    Where are they getting the 6-8 relievers? It’s impossible. There’s no one left in the minors (forget Dunn – I wouldn’t trust any of those kids) and who are they going to trade for?

  1891. randy l. May 5th, 2009 at 11:13 pm

    “when theo traded manny for bay you guys were horse laughing the sox. now you want to “sign jason bay at all costs”. now i have to laugh!”

    the yankees and red sox bidding for bay would make bay a very rich man.

    the yankees have to do it just to jack up the price.

  1892. Jimmy May 5th, 2009 at 11:14 pm

    Betsy – That is the problem. It’s not one or 2 ineffective relievers… it is 7 of them. Everyone except MO (and MAYBE Coke). Even when Bruney comes back, he can’t pitch everyday. He can’t pitch the 6th and 7th. Otherwise, he’s headed right back to the DL.

    No idea where Cashman is going for the pen. This is like last year’s Mets, one guy is just worse than the next. Nobody can get outs or throw strikes. I have a hard time seeing where he is going to get one arm in a trade, let alone 6.

    We’re not winning anything with this pen. It’s going to suck the life out of the entire team and blow games left and right.

  1893. HillBilllShakespeare May 5th, 2009 at 11:14 pm

    its disgusting to out hit a team and lose by four runs. I don’t even know who to blame more, the bloodless, clutchless hitting, or the no balls aimless pitching. anyone? CaptainsCorner, how can you say the bullpen has NOTHING to do with the loss? You take the team out of this game, you take away the momentum. They absolutely have to be blamed, not fully, but absolutely partly.

  1894. ElGuapo May 5th, 2009 at 11:14 pm

    Who cares about empty seats. What I see now is a team that is too sclerotic and crusty, and the only solution management comes up with is to throw money at it.
    Girardi should have never been picked manager. He is way above his head.

  1895. Charlie May 5th, 2009 at 11:14 pm

    “It’s not a rivalry anymore, folks”

    I’m in florida for vacation and this owner at a restaurant said its a redsox-rays rivalry now. I don’t see it.

  1896. D-Train May 5th, 2009 at 11:15 pm

    Firing Girardi should be a bad sign for the knowledgeable baseball fans. It shows the front office has no perspective on the problem or are not creative enough to fix it. They are saying they don’t know how to fix the REAL problem (i.e bullpen), so they’re going to fire the manager and pray it lights a “fire”.

  1897. BobAz May 5th, 2009 at 11:15 pm

    I was all for bringing in Girardi to replace Torre. I was wrong!

  1898. Bronx Jeers May 5th, 2009 at 11:17 pm

    Hey Maybe Houston will trade us Pudge again for some of our bullpen? That’ll put a fire under Posada’s butt.

    They did take LaTroy Hawkins so they’re accustomed to our garbage.

    Yanks don’t face these guys again till the 2nd week of June. Let’s all hope everybody’s healthy and playing like a good team.

  1899. AGuard May 5th, 2009 at 11:17 pm

    Wow, how the mighty have fallen. Never thought I’d see this. It just seems to get worse year after year. The Sox own us in every way imaginable. They don’t even take pride in beating us anymore, they expect to and don’t think its a big deal when they do.

    They have moved way ahead of us. There is no rivalry anymore. As you saw in these 5 games, despite the score, the difference between the teams is night and day. They have become us, we have become them.

  1900. ElGuapo May 5th, 2009 at 11:17 pm

    So, what happens when they get kicked around by Tampa tomorrrow and thursday? what are the excuses going to be? This team has no momentum, no fire, no management, no bullpen, no hitter, and we think ARod is going to turn things around? Don’t think so

  1901. Hank May 5th, 2009 at 11:18 pm

    Why not reacquire Hawkins AND Pudge?

  1902. NHYankee62 May 5th, 2009 at 11:18 pm

    I would think the most knowledgeable baseball fans realize that you need to go to Robertson and Melancon before the terrible trio of Veras, Ramirez, and Alby.

  1903. Paulie May 5th, 2009 at 11:18 pm

    They had to use 7 pitchers tonight . How is it a good thing to have Joba as a starter. I dont care how dominent he was for 4 inning, at the end of the day, he lost and didnt go deep into the game. The bull pen is a joke without him. They keep on dragging out the “usual suspects” with the same feeble results. Even our “new closer” Melacon sucked. They look like a minor league team vs the Red Sox. The Sox are better at every position and remeber thats without Youklis or Paplebon playing tonight. Its going to be a very long season for us but a very short season for Girardi and Cashman. I agree with RCONN23 its not a rivaly anymore. I sure hope that AROD can pitch

  1904. Motive May 5th, 2009 at 11:19 pm

    Firing Cashman would be a good start, except they’ll be living with his decisions for a while.

  1905. ElGuapo May 5th, 2009 at 11:19 pm

    Bring Krazy Kyle back!!!

  1906. Betsy May 5th, 2009 at 11:19 pm

    Jimmy, you’re right……..but I don’t want to blame only the pen. The offense with RISP is abysmal – the hitters have to shoulder their share of the blame for this mess.

  1907. yankee 822 May 5th, 2009 at 11:20 pm

    Bobby Valentine is going to fly in from Japan and save this sinking ship?

    Is he going to bring Yu Darvish with him? Because otherwise, he really doesn’t help us.

  1908. dave May 5th, 2009 at 11:20 pm

    “We need two things, in this order from most to least important: Bullpen and bench.”

    How ironic that cash completely ignored two things this off-season from most ignored to second most ignored: Bullpen and bench. We did trade for swish which marked the first time in cash’s failure of a career in which he (in hindsight) actually got a player who was slated to come off the bench and serve as depth. He did not address the bullpen at all saying we had a ton of arms to choose from until we get the right mix. Yet, except what if the right mix isnt in the minors?

    I dont understand what happened with melancon tonight or how Joe could have predicted he would have such poor command. Obviously something was wrong as melancon never struggles with his command and couldnt even find the plate walking three batters without recording an out. I dont know what Joe knew but i guess he knew something or guessed correctly because something was up with melancon tonight. I dont see how Joe could have managed this bullpen at all tonight in a positive way as the entire thing seems to be falling apart. Outside of Melancon who was useless tonight, we had just coke and Mo who have not been disastrous so far but we needed to cover almost half the games outs and we were losing that entire span so we needed to use guys who have failed for us thus far.

    Girardi pretty much used everyone who was around except Mo and aceves who pitched yesterday. He really had no choice in the matter of who to use except when to put them in and when to yank them. This pen is just an absolute disaster right now. I dont know how but some of these guys NEED to get their acts together or the pen will be blowing leads left and right. If coke, aceves and Mo continue to do alright and melancon rejoins the fold of trustworthy individuals, we only need maybe two more arms for now. I am hoping Robertson is one of those and then, perhaps veras comes around or we find somebody else in the minors like claggett or even humberto sanchez if he is around. But we NEED five relievers who can pitch well and a closer. Once Bruney comes back, we will have bruney to setup for mo and whoever has been setting up in his absence (melancon?) Then, we will get marte back who can pitch the seventh with whoever is pitching the seventh in his absence (coke?) At that point is when i envision the pen getting into a groove.

  1909. CaptainsCorner May 5th, 2009 at 11:21 pm

    “CaptainsCorner, how can you say the bullpen has NOTHING to do with the loss?”

    Until the 8th inning it was a 4-3 game. Besides Damon’s home run and the 6th inning the Yanks did absolutely nothing with the bats to try and score a run or even string hits together. Even if the score stayed the same at 4-3 into the 8th inning were the Yanks going to score another run? 99% says no.

  1910. 66 stripes May 5th, 2009 at 11:21 pm

    And nice to see Teixeria earning that $180 million.

    We didn’t get him here to be a role player to blend in and hit when he has A-Rod behind him… we could have paid Abreu $5 million for that.

    What a disappointment

  1911. Betsy May 5th, 2009 at 11:22 pm

    Pudge sucked last year – even if he was available, I wouldn’t want him.

  1912. pat May 5th, 2009 at 11:22 pm

    “jim rice on nesn is saying he didn’t think joba was throwing change ups and that he was just letting up on the fastball.”

    Proof there is no IQ requirement for HOF candidacy.

  1913. Uncle Reggie May 5th, 2009 at 11:24 pm

    Lets be honest. Joba threw at Bay. No question about it. He was painting the corners for 4 straight innings, and the first pitch to Bay is in the ribs.

    Beckett is going to get his payback at some point in the season. I am suprised he didn’t do it this game.

  1914. igotid88 May 5th, 2009 at 11:24 pm

    Bring Alex back tomorrow.

  1915. O*Line May 5th, 2009 at 11:25 pm

    The offense shouldn’t have to score 8 runs (or 7 yesterday) to win a game.

    In both cases, the bullpen allowed Boston to add insurance runs. Dating back to Baltimore opening day, the bullpen allowed the other team to get insurance runs. That is so demoralizing for a team. Nothing hurts more than you are within a run or two and the pen lets them get that extra run.

    The starters have all pitched well early, then fizzled out late but were forced to stay in because the pen is awful and their ERAs are higher as a result. We’ve lost games as a result.

    Ultimately, it all comes back to the pen. That is the root of all the problems.

  1916. Richie May 5th, 2009 at 11:25 pm

    I’m not going to lose faith in Melancon because he overthrew, just like I kept the faith in Robertson even though Girardi had buried him.

    It’s time for a change.

  1917. Bronx Jeers May 5th, 2009 at 11:25 pm

    “What I see now is a team that is too sclerotic and crusty,”

    Wow!

    Some may accuse them of not playing with “heart” but you’ve got them pegged. They’re playing with “diseased heart”

    So much for cutting out the sweets in the locker room.

    What about filling the water cooler with a nice cabernet?

  1918. Angel - A tale told by idiots, full of sound and fury - signifying nothing. May 5th, 2009 at 11:25 pm

    God, this place is absolutely bi-polar at times.

    There isn’t enough lithium in the world to be able to handle reading this stuff.

    I’m out for a while.

  1919. Pat M May 5th, 2009 at 11:27 pm

    One thing is for certain, their record within the division is beyond bad…..

  1920. Edwards May 5th, 2009 at 11:28 pm

    AJ learning Chinese or Swisher playing loud music isin’t helping much now is it?

    As usual, people fell for the Spring Training folly and thought it would really carry over into the fishbowl of NY. Same story every year, the greatest Spring training ever, followed by a disastrous start to the season.

  1921. Trevor May 5th, 2009 at 11:28 pm

    Lupica asking Joe what he likes about the RS. SMH

  1922. CaptainsCorner May 5th, 2009 at 11:28 pm

    Joel Sherman always sounds like such a know it all when he asks questions. How annoying is he…

  1923. John C. May 5th, 2009 at 11:29 pm

    3-8 within the AL East

    And now we play Tampa then Baltimore/Toronto on the road, followed by a home series with both later in the month.

    Ouch.

  1924. Trevor May 5th, 2009 at 11:31 pm

    “3-8 within the AL East”

    In the end it all evens out.

  1925. dave May 5th, 2009 at 11:32 pm

    While we still have plenty of options for the pen and dont know who is actually going to work out for us yet, we have pretty much zero options for catcher outside of molina. If posada is back in two weeks – i guess we make due with molina. I HEARD that cervelli may be catching tomorrow and he is basically the equivalent of putting a lawn chair next to the plate and telling it to swing away. This guy isnt even hitting 200 in double A trenton and his obp is under 300 there. What in the world is he going to be hitting in the majors when he is mired in a slump in trenton. I dont want to even imagine so hopefully, molina who is basically our only option (THANKS CASH) is catching almost every day until posada returns. In the event that posada is out for an extended period of time like over a month, i think we are forced to sacrifice some talent for a decent catcher who can hit a little bit as we cant afford to have molina in the lineup for over a month straight.

    If i were cashman, I would get on the phone now and start looking for trades for a catcher because even if posada is back in a few weeks, I really dont know how long he will stay healthy and still be able to catch regularly. I dont think posada has enough left in him for him to bridge the gap to montero in a few years thus, sooner or later we will be looking for a starting catcher to replace posada anyway who will move to dh for the most part after matsui and damon clear the spot for him. So I dont see any problem giving away some talent for a solid catcher this season as long as the trade is reasonable because we need this player not just for a short-term but also for a long-term fix. And who knows if montero will ever be a major league catcher as it is just not smart to even bank on that right now and certainly not a good idea to expect posada to catch until that day. Thus, we will need a starting catcher sooner or later anyway so I would just go with sooner.

  1926. Seaside May 5th, 2009 at 11:32 pm

    Could we get Francisco Cordero or Kerry Wood?

  1927. teddy May 5th, 2009 at 11:33 pm

    extremly proud of joba tonight

  1928. ElGuapo May 5th, 2009 at 11:34 pm

    Bronx Jeers,

    If that’s what it takes to get this team going, I’m all for it!!

  1929. Oddessy May 5th, 2009 at 11:34 pm

    Concentrate on the wild card… beating Tampa the next 2 helps us with that.

  1930. Pel (Uncertainty is certain.) May 5th, 2009 at 11:34 pm

    >Proof there is no IQ requirement for HOF candidacy.

    Prood there is no IQ requirement for HOF voting, either.

  1931. CaptainsCorner May 5th, 2009 at 11:34 pm

    Well this is great. The 1 pitcher who could get people out…

    Brian Bruney, who is on the 15-day DL with a flexor muscle strain, has taken a step back in the rehab process. He had played catch a couple of times, but when he did so from 75 feet, he said he still “felt it” a little bit. He is not playing catch right now.

  1932. Yanks22 May 5th, 2009 at 11:35 pm

    Im so sick of this team! Im starting to relize i just shouldnt even watch the games. This way I wont get pissed off and upset. Here’s to 2010.

  1933. HillBilllShakespeare May 5th, 2009 at 11:36 pm

    why not just bring montero up now? who cares if he’s “not ready”, younger guys have played in the majors, and I really don’t see how bringing up cervelli is a better option. The yankees are afraid to make risky moves, bring up montero, maybe he surprises people and takes off…

  1934. Big Yank Fan May 5th, 2009 at 11:39 pm

    I wondered why they let IROD go. They could have carried him this year

  1935. CaptainsCorner May 5th, 2009 at 11:39 pm

    If the Yanks can’t beat Tampa in these 2 games then they are really a joke. They face their worst 2 starters Sonnanstine and Niemann who has been awful. I hope Cervelli has a good arm because Tampa is going to be running like crazy on the old Yanks.

  1936. Betsy May 5th, 2009 at 11:40 pm

    Sucks for Bruney – sucks for the team – can’t say I’m surprised. So much for the initial diagnosis – I thought this was supposed to be good news in that there was no ligament damage?

  1937. stuart May 5th, 2009 at 11:40 pm

    there is no way that theo will not extend jason bay before the end of the season. he is the best g.m. in baseball!

  1938. Uncle Ellsworth May 5th, 2009 at 11:40 pm

    “all the umbrellas in London couldn’t stop this rain and all the dope in New York couldn’t stop this pain”

  1939. Uncle Ellsworth May 5th, 2009 at 11:40 pm

    “all the umbrellas in London couldn’t stop this rain and all the dope in New York couldn’t stop this pain”

  1940. GreenBeret7 May 5th, 2009 at 11:40 pm

    Uncle Reggie
    May 5th, 2009 at 11:24 pm
    ***Lets be honest. Joba threw at Bay. No question about it. *** He was painting the corners for 4 straight innings, and the first pitch to Bay is in the ribs.

    Beckett is going to get his payback at some point in the season. I am suprised he didn’t do it this game.

    ————————————————————

    Let’s be honest. You’re an idiot. You don’t throw at batters with breaking pitches.

  1941. Mark May 5th, 2009 at 11:41 pm

    There is no outside solution to the bullpen, especially not until July and not unless Cashman wants to give up something good. There is nobody left in the minors unless you think Mike Dunn is going to save the day.

    So the Melancon, Veras, Edwar, Marte, Coke, Albaladejo, Robertson group has to figure it out. We’re going to sink or swim with this bullpen. Joba is staying in the rotation.

  1942. Trevor May 5th, 2009 at 11:41 pm

    Recipe for beating the Red Sox: Pitch well & Hit in the clutch
    It’s not rocket science.

  1943. Pat M May 5th, 2009 at 11:42 pm

    The record within the division is what’s keeping them from being in First place right now….

  1944. Betsy May 5th, 2009 at 11:43 pm

    No way Cervelli should be starting yet – he has no clue as to AJ’s tendencies and vice versa…..maybe he knows a bit more about Andy, but I doubt it.

  1945. Boston Dave May 5th, 2009 at 11:43 pm

    “Im so sick of this team! Im starting to relize i just shouldnt even watch the games. This way I wont get pissed off and upset. Here’s to 2010.”

    ———-

    It’s official… the LoHud Yankee blog has the worst fans in sports.

    Stop watching the Yankees and go do some gardening. You aren’t cut out to be a sports fan. I wouldn’t put much faith in your garden… but at least you won’t be bothering others with your idiocy.

  1946. We Miss Paulie May 5th, 2009 at 11:43 pm

    Sign Pedro as a long reliever.

  1947. minor leagues May 5th, 2009 at 11:45 pm

    for everyone who has been crying for the last two years to bring guys up from the farm, its obvious that there are reasons why guys are in the minor leagues. People come on here all the time clammering for the yanks to bring up minor leaguers especially pitchers. The guys they brought up are terrible. This guilt thing that they must grow the farm is not working. I could care less how many free agents they bring in, they need experienced quality pitchers. Girardi is once again for the second season in a row holding bullpen tryouts. Thats what spring training is for. There is no ryhme or reason to who he brings in because they are all awful. All ERA`s over 6 -7. With all the $$$ they spent they should have gone out and got middle relief and some bench help. The bullpen is horrible

  1948. Pel (Uncertainty is certain.) May 5th, 2009 at 11:46 pm

    >It’s not rocket science.

    Apparently, it’s easier said than done.

  1949. Galvin May 5th, 2009 at 11:46 pm

    If Molina is banged up, who should catch?

    AJ has to man up and not use it as an excuse. His choke in Boston is why we are even in this position anyway. Maybe if he pitches better he can have a personal catcher, but he has not earned one.

  1950. HillBilllShakespeare May 5th, 2009 at 11:47 pm

    sign bonds. send tex to AAA, bring up miranda. Make molina dress up like a giant empanada and stand on the third base line, bring up montero.

  1951. Betsy May 5th, 2009 at 11:48 pm

    Too bad – Kat O’Brien is going back to school and she will no longer be covering the Yanks. I really liked her blog and she always did a good job – certainly she was less reactionary and bitter than the Lupicas of the world. That’s one less sportswriter I have to read……

  1952. GreenBeret7 May 5th, 2009 at 11:48 pm

    Betsy
    May 5th, 2009 at 11:43 pm
    No way Cervelli should be starting yet – he has no clue as to AJ’s tendencies and vice versa…..maybe he knows a bit more about Andy, but I doubt it.

    ————————————————————

    Cervelli shouldn’t even be on the 40 man roster. He can’t hit for squat and his defense is nothing special, either. Remove him from the 40 man, because nobody’s going to put him on their 25 man roster. Nieves would have been a better choice, and, he’s retired, or should be.

  1953. Pissed Off Yankee Fan May 5th, 2009 at 11:49 pm

    Why won’t Pete or any announcer (god knows we have the WORST radio announcerS and TV announceR) mention the Yankees complete inability to manufacture goddam runs?

  1954. 97 Yank May 5th, 2009 at 11:49 pm

    This is what we have come to? Trying to sign Pedro for the pen?

    Wow, this season sure turned upside down fast

  1955. antimichaelkay May 5th, 2009 at 11:49 pm

    “It’s not a rivalry anymore, folks”

    “I’m in florida for vacation and this owner at a restaurant said its a redsox-rays rivalry now. I don’t see it.”

    I’m not sure how the Rays can replace the Yankees in the rival but, the rays and sox have had good competition with one another, can’t say much for the Yankees. We’ll see if the Yankees can sweep the Rays in the upcoming series.

  1956. Marcus May 5th, 2009 at 11:49 pm

    The internet is not good for baseball.

  1957. Sean P May 5th, 2009 at 11:49 pm

    Hey Minor leagues, your a complete idiot. Nothing can be derived from all these small sample sized innings and you have no idea how relievers are going to be from one year to the next in general- its the most volatile position in baseball with performance. You cant just rule the guys who have come up and largely sat on the bench for an extended period of time while “big league” guys blow games wide open. Would you send Sabathia down too based on the fact he’s pitched poorly this first month? Get an idea of what your talking about and try again.

  1958. ElGuapo May 5th, 2009 at 11:49 pm

    HBShakespeare,

    Sad to say, but your suggestions make more sense that Cashman’s decisions and Girardi’s management skills…

  1959. S.A.--It's a marathon, not a sprint. Calm down. May 5th, 2009 at 11:50 pm

    Big Trouble in Little China on the G4 channel right now. Fun movie. That should help in making the yuckiness of this loss go away. A win tomorrow would do an even better job though.

    Hopefully AJ will have a good outing tomorrow and we can get something going offensively vs Sonnanstine. I’m just gonna pray for the bullpen. Maybe we all should?

  1960. Pat M May 5th, 2009 at 11:50 pm

    At the 26 game mark, coming out of Spring Training I thought something along the lines of 18-8 was not unrealistic, at least 16-10

  1961. Boston Dave May 5th, 2009 at 11:51 pm

    “This is what we have come to? Trying to sign Pedro for the pen?

    Wow, this season sure turned upside down fast”

    ———

    You’d think there were 10 games to go in the season, not 135.

    The panic in here during any loss is pitiful. I guess that’s what happens when you get spoiled. Some people in here are like little whiny spoiled brats who can’t step back and think like rational human beings.

  1962. Boston Dave May 5th, 2009 at 11:52 pm

    “I’m not sure how the Rays can replace the Yankees in the rival but, the rays and sox have had good competition with one another, can’t say much for the Yankees.”

    ——-

    ever since your labotomy, I’d say the biggest rivalry in these parts is going on between the two sides of your brain. tragic…

  1963. S.A.--It's a marathon, not a sprint. Calm down. May 5th, 2009 at 11:52 pm

    Too bad – Kat O’Brien is going back to school and she will no longer be covering the Yanks.

    ==============================

    Is she really? Darn, I liked her blog and Yankee coverage for Newsday. Best of luck to her in school.

  1964. Jermaine D'Twan Monroe-Gibbons May 5th, 2009 at 11:53 pm

    There are 2 things wrong with this team.
    1) The Bullpen.
    2) Hitting with men on base, RISP, men on/RISP with 2 outs.

    When Bruney and Damo get back the ‘pen should be a little better. Until then, let Coke, Melancon, and Veras have their cracks at the 7th and 8th. Throw Robertson in that group for the heck of it. Start to phase Albaladejo and Ramirez out of major roles. Aceves is diesel.

    I’m hoping the return of A-Rod sparks the offense in the “clutch” spots. What they really need is for Nady and Posada to return as close to 100% healthy as possible. I think when there are RISP, it’s become a mental thing for all these guys. They press, which amounts to no results. Which is what we’re seeing now. Tex needs to relax, the hits will come.

    I want this lineup:
    Cabrera CF
    Damon LF
    Teixeira 1B
    Rodriguez 3B
    Cano 2B
    Matsui DH
    Posada C
    Jeter SS
    Nady RF
    Swisher, Gardner, Molina, Pena are on the bench.
    I’m the biggest Jeter supporter in the world, but he’s just not doing it right now. Drop him down to the 8 hole. He’ll suck it up.

  1965. Boston Dave May 5th, 2009 at 11:53 pm

    S.A.

    good point. The Yankees are a win or two away from changing the mood.

  1966. antimichaelkay May 5th, 2009 at 11:54 pm

    Can’t they bring Kevin Cash up? I heard that he is very close to coming off the DL. He is pretty good and experienced. Or what about that Christ Stewart.

  1967. antimichaelkay May 5th, 2009 at 11:55 pm

    Can’t they bring Kevin Cash up? I heard that he is very close to coming off the DL. He is pretty good and experienced. Or what about that Chris Stewart.

  1968. Rich May 5th, 2009 at 11:55 pm

    Remember in Spring Training when all of our relievers had ERAs under 2 and we had to decide who was the odd man out because they all pitched so well and we were so excited at all the depth we had and how stacked we were?

    Bruney, Veras, Edwar, Albaladejo, Robertson, Tomko, Aceves, Marte, Coke, Melancon, Jackson, Claggett, Sanchez…..

    Remember when people wanted to trade off some of these guys because we had so much depth? How things have changed…

  1969. Pissed Off Yankee Fan May 5th, 2009 at 11:55 pm

    It’s time for Brian Cashman to go.
    1. In 10 years he hasn’t brought up diddly. Cano MAY have turned the corner, and Joba hasn’t proven he can be counted on. TEN years and when I asked people this they name those two… what a joke. Face the facts people, he’s had TEN TEN TEN years and has FAILED at developing talent.
    2. If given blank checks year after year ANYONE of us could sign them and bring in the best free agents.
    3. The guys he signs by and large DISAPPOINT and prove not to be worth their money.

  1970. ElGuapo May 5th, 2009 at 11:55 pm

    Boston Dave,

    Yes, people tend to get a bit emotional around here, but there are serious undelying problems to this team and the losses just exacerbate the situation. It has nothing to do with the amount of games remaining.

    Come August, the Yanks will be 8 games behind, in 3rd place and you will still be saying “don’t worry we still have 35 games to go, and the starters will eventually get their strikes in and the hitters will get in a groove”

  1971. $Htman213 May 5th, 2009 at 11:56 pm

    Let’s be honest. You’re an idiot. You don’t throw at batters with breaking pitches.

    ————————————————————-

    I wasn’t aware Joba’s breaking ball hit 93MPH on the gun. Seems like only an idiot would believe that.

  1972. Betsy May 5th, 2009 at 11:56 pm

    Again, when did Molina get hurt?

    This isn’t about AJ – and who said he’s making excuses, Gavin? Who’s said he’s asked for a personal catcher? My point is that Cervelli doesn’t know ANY of the pitchers……..and I said that he shouldn’t start until he’s had time to get to catch them in their warm ups. Again, not just AJ….

  1973. miggs May 5th, 2009 at 11:56 pm

    As I scrolled through the latest comments, I realized it got a little rough in here.

    Wow. SJ44 wants an entire new pen. People want to send Melancon back down after one bad outing where he was getting squeezed. Tons of complaining about the bench.

    Newsflash. Our starting catcher, 3rd baseman, and RF are on the DL. They also happen to be the 4,5, and 7 hitters in your lineup. Huge RBI guys. What kind of freaking bench do you expect the team to have? Wake up. The bench is playing. Swisher, Melky, Pena, Molina. These guys are STARTERS NOW.

  1974. HillBilllShakespeare May 5th, 2009 at 11:57 pm

    Wow Boston Dave, you sound just as tilted as the “bush leaguers” lol at you deriding them for being angry. Hypocrite much?

  1975. Boston Dave May 5th, 2009 at 11:57 pm

    “Come August, the Yanks will be 8 games behind, in 3rd place and you will still be saying “don’t worry we still have 35 games to go, and the starters will eventually get their strikes in and the hitters will get in a groove””

    ——

    Remind me again why you bother following the Yankees?

    If they are 8 back in August, I’ll be very disappointed. But that’s August. It’s May.

  1976. CaptainsCorner May 5th, 2009 at 11:58 pm

    “Kat O’Brien is going back to school and she will no longer be covering the Yanks.”

    That stinks I liked her blog..She always had good info on the Yanks because of her good friendship/relationship with Hal.

  1977. Pissed Off Yankee Fan May 5th, 2009 at 11:59 pm

    It’s time for Brian Cashman to go.
    1. In 10 years he hasn’t brought up diddly. Cano MAY have turned the corner, and Joba hasn’t proven he can be counted on. TEN years and when I asked people this they name those two… what a joke. Face the facts people, he’s had TEN TEN TEN years and has FAILED at developing talent.
    2. If given blank checks year after year ANYONE of us could sign them and bring in the best free agents.
    3. The guys he signs by and large DISAPPOINT and prove not to be worth their money.

  1978. ElGuapo May 6th, 2009 at 12:00 am

    I follow the Yankees because I am a lifetime fan, and stick with them through thick and thin, but that does not mean that I should not question the pathetic front office moves and the mediocre management in place now.

  1979. Trevor May 6th, 2009 at 12:00 am

    Betsy

    Molina is not hurt.

  1980. Bronx Jeers May 6th, 2009 at 12:00 am

    Boston Dave,

    Lay off the lattes!

    Hey they just lost their 5th game in a row to Sox. People are going to be upset.

    You’re fighting windmills in here.

    Watching the Bernie concert. Contemporary jazz ain’t exactly my cup of tea but he’s tearing it up. It’s not bad.

  1981. Boston Dave May 6th, 2009 at 12:00 am

    “Wow Boston Dave, you sound just as tilted as the “bush leaguers” lol at you deriding them for being angry. Hypocrite much?”

    ——–

    Did I say people were angry? I said they became irrational after a Yankee loss.

    Where’s the hypocrisy?

    Alas, It’s my own fault for even coming to this blog during a game.

  1982. antimichaelkay May 6th, 2009 at 12:00 am

    “ever since your labotomy, I’d say the biggest rivalry in these parts is going on between the two sides of your brain. tragic…”

    Its true though. How is it a Rival if they can’t even beat Boston? They can beat the Rays but, why not the sox? 5 flipping games! I was only telling the person who posted about it that rays and boston got good competition.

  1983. Boston Dave May 6th, 2009 at 12:02 am

    “Hey they just lost their 5th game in a row to Sox. People are going to be upset.”

    ——

    nobody is as disappointed as I am. Believe me, 90% of my friends are die-hard Sox fans.

    It doesn’t excuse some of the posts that people make. This place goes to hell after a loss.

  1984. S.A.--It's a marathon, not a sprint. Calm down. May 6th, 2009 at 12:02 am

    new post ———————>

  1985. Peter Abraham May 6th, 2009 at 12:03 am

    I broke that news on Bruney two days ago. It was on the blog on Sunday and in the paper
    Monday.

    http://yankees.lhblogs.com/200.....homestand/

  1986. Buddy Biancalana May 6th, 2009 at 12:05 am

    miggs-

    It wasn’t SJ, he left before the game started & said he wouldn’t be posting during the game.

  1987. dave May 6th, 2009 at 12:05 am

    Some of the comments in here are atrocious and I hope from redsox fans and not yankees fans. The sox arent even in our class? redsox-rays rivalry? Pleeease. Based on what> Five games none of which were ever blowouts at all and almost all of which were decided by only one or two big plays. Very little broke right for us and this team is in a very mediocre place right now. Our pen will certainly not be this pathetic all season. Our rotation is definitely going to improve. Arod will be hitting next to tex and tex will be hitting around 300 and not around 200. These are things that are bound to change just based on past performance – losing bruney and marte sent out pen into this tailspin and getting them back will certainly help the pen get better.

    I do think this pen can be as good as last year and while I think cashman blew it by not bolstering the pen or the bench, they werent all that bad to start the year. I dont think veras, edwar and albadejo will all end the year with eras closer to 10 than 5. Things will improve even with the news about posada and bruney’s apparent setback. These still seem very minor and arod coming back, jobas dominance tonight, CC looking sharp the other day, hughes looking unhittable against detroit and tex;s two homers yesterday are all good signs of positive change forward. I think pettitte and joba have so far proved that they are everything we hoped they would be this season so far and AJ has shown signs of dominance and remained healthy. Swish, cano and matsui have also all exceded expectations so far and carried the offense this year. Damon is also hitting better and better and melky is looking very good most days.

    I also seriously doubt wang will end the season with an era over 30 . So things are basically bound to improve mainly because most of these stats cant get any worse and many players have showed a lot of subtle signs of major improvement especially in the rotation. Our rotation was the strongest part of this team coming into the season and it will likely be the strongest coming out which is definitely a good thing for the playoffs and takes a lot of heat off the pen. I also think that Mo, coke, aceves, robertson and melancon will all prove reliable pen arms that girardi can trust within the week and the pen will start rolling with those five in major roles and bolstered by the return of Bruney and Marte. I also think that pena will be an excellent player to have off the bench when arod comes back and with posada back our bench rounds into shape with gardner, pena, molina and swisher with nady back in the OF. That bench has everything a good bench needs.

  1988. broncballers May 6th, 2009 at 12:05 am

    Boston Dave,

    stop being a Jackass

  1989. HillBilllShakespeare May 6th, 2009 at 12:07 am

    I hope you’re right Dave.

  1990. HillBilllShakespeare May 6th, 2009 at 12:08 am

    Boston Dave isn’t being a jackass anymore than I am, or anyone is, he just expresses his distaste differently than some.

  1991. GreenBeret7 May 6th, 2009 at 12:09 am

    $Htman213
    May 5th, 2009 at 11:56 pm
    Let’s be honest. You’re an idiot. You don’t throw at batters with breaking pitches.
    ——————————————————————————————-

    I wasn’t aware Joba’s breaking ball hit 93MPH on the gun. Seems like only an idiot would believe that

    ————————————————————

    The ball moved inside and he was trying to jam the hitter. Remind people again why a pitcher with two outs and a runner on base would hit a batter and put another runner into scoring position with a .310 hitter with power coming up?

  1992. Tim May 6th, 2009 at 12:10 am

    People giving Cashman a hard time fail to realize all of the good midseason trades recently. The trade for Abreu made playoffs possible that year. The trade for Marte and Nady was absolutely ridiculous last year, even the folks on ESPN talked about how good that was for the Yankees. Then he picks up Pudge. Those two trades SHOULD have been enough to push the Yanks to the playoffs. No one could have seen Pudge and Marte struggling so much. Then there’s the Swisher deal. I don’t think anyone can argue how helpful that trade has been.

    He had Cody Ransom as a back up infielder, probably the only flaw of the starting roster this year. He picked up Kevin Cash as a third string catcher, who had been backup for a World Series Champion team. He also locked up Molina who did such a brilliant job with the pitching staff last year and is regarded as one of the better defensive catchers out there. The bullpen was one of the best in the majors last year, and everyone looked great in Spring Training.

    Nothing can be said of the pitching staff, they simply haven’t been performing. That is NOT on Cashman. Maybe in a few years when AJ and CC start showing some wear and tear you can yell at him. The starting 5 is the best on paper 5 in the majors, no question. Plus he has Hughes, Kennedy, and Aceves waiting for some depth. Maybe you can argue he should’ve picked up an extra Major League arm in reserves, but Aceves showed promise last year and Hughes obviously has potential.

    Cashman is not the man to blame.

    Regardless, the team always starts out slow. They’ll turn it around, and if not, I’m sure Cashman will make some good move in the next few months.

  1993. Nick in SF May 6th, 2009 at 12:11 am

    I tried to get away but I got a ‘Magnetic Fields quote’ alert. I knew that app wasn’t useless!

    “I don’t believe in the sun
    How can it shine down on everyone
    And never shine on me?”

  1994. Boston Dave May 6th, 2009 at 12:14 am

    Nick,

    good song!

  1995. Boston Dave May 6th, 2009 at 12:15 am

    Pete needs to start playing some Elliot Smith on the blog during game threads.

  1996. Reasonable Fan May 6th, 2009 at 12:15 am

    Can we all just give the young guys and the young manager a chance to mature over not just a few games, not just a few months, but (gasp) a few years? What do you say? Instead of calling for people to get fired or be shuttled back to AAA.

    How long did it take Greinke to get where he is now? Think Joba won’t get there? Hughes? I think they will.

    Girardi will be a great manager. Cashman is a great GM. Is he better than Theo? Who knows. Do you think he doesn’t try to make deals that make his team better? That Nady/Marte trade looked like a great deal at the time, and he brought the Yanks Teix, CC, and AJ.

    You know Sabathia will get hot.

    AJ is serious about his work and you have to believe he will battle.

    Teixeira is a notoriously slow starter.

    My expectations? I am excited to see what happens within a 3-year span. I don’t expect them to make the playoffs this year. But I do think we are looking at a speedy, powerful championship calibre team in three years when Cano, Joba, and Hughes (and others) have grown into their own nucleus and role players and vets like CC,Teixeira and even Rodriguez are still contributing as well.

    I do think that Jeter, Posada and Rivera have played in their last playoff games. But I think this is more than OK. Their teams gave us more than any baseball fan could ever want on this earth.

    It’s time to turn the page, but you need time and space for people to mature and make mistakes and get better in order for that to happen. Otherwise, we’re a free-agent reliant, old, win-now team and that just never seems to work. We have been buying players near-past-their-prime in an effort to plug holes and it’s time to stop. Cash has done all he can within the environment he is asked to work. I think we owe it to the team to see what the next 5 years brings before we panic and clean house.

  1997. Vince May 6th, 2009 at 12:29 am

    “Girardi will be a great manager. Cashman is a great GM. Is he better than Theo? Who knows. Do you think he doesn’t try to make deals that make his team better? That Nady/Marte trade looked like a great deal at the time, and he brought the Yanks Teix, CC, and AJ.”

    Cashman a great GM? Lolz.

  1998. bodhisattva May 6th, 2009 at 2:18 am

    Betsy
    May 5th, 2009 at 11:10 pm
    Melancon is a victim of expectations – I never understood why people looked at him as a savior, not even having thrown 1 pitch in the majors.
    Where are we getting 6-8 relievers? It’s not happening – there’s no one in the minors (not that I would trust) and who are they going to trade for?
    ===============================
    Melancon isn’t a victim of anything.

    I don’t think people with previous knowledge of him ever described him as a “savior” – unless you interpret a guy who can consistently deliver the ball to Rivera as such.

    That, he can and will do. He is very talented, has three pitches and impeccable command. He also has a huge, fighting heart and no pulse.

    Given those qualities, why wouldn’t we be sky high on him?

  1999. Cap May 6th, 2009 at 10:37 am

    Peter,

    I completely understand your unabashed support for Joba in the rotation… but to call people “stupid” this early into the experiment is a little short-sided. I maintain that he is physically not built to be a starting pitcher in this league for an extended period of time. A closing pitcher like a K-Rod, Papelbon, or Mariano in his prime is, perhaps, the most rare and valuable commodity in all of baseball. There is no doubt Joba could be that for us. However, there remains substantial doubt he can be a top-tier starting pitcher for the long haul.

    So to continually rip people who disagree with you on this, a month into him being a starting pitcher… you’d better be willing to eat your words if come August and September (and October? didn’t that used to be the most important month?) he can’t do it anymore. Not to mention once you start stringing multiple seasons together.

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