Game 27: Rays at Yankees (updated with A-Rod rehab news)
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YANKEES (13-13)
Jeter SS
Damon LF
Teixeira 1B
Matsui DH
Cano 2B
Swisher RF
Cabrera CF
Pena 3B
Molina C
Pitching: RHP A.J. Burnett (2-0, 5.40).
Burnett vs. the Tamps Bay hitters.
RAYS (12-16)
Upton CF
Crawford LF
Longoria 3B
Pena 1B
Burrell DH
Gross RF
Bartlett SS
Iwamura 2B
Navarro C
Pitching: RHP Andy Sonnanstine (1-3, 6.75).
Sonnanstine vs. the New York hitters.
TIME/TV: 7:05, YES.
COKE ON A ROLL: Phil Coke’s last nine outings have been terrific. 7 innings, 2 hits, 0 runs, 1 walk, 3 strikeouts.
REMEMBER HIM: Mariano Rivera hasn’t pitched since Thursday.
SLUGGERS: The Yankees have hit 39 home runs. Only Texas (48) has more.
VALUE THE BALL: The Yankees are 2-10 when they make an error, 11-3 when they don’t. The Yankees have made five errors in the last two games.
MELKY STAYS HOT: Melky Cabrera has a nine-game hitting streak. He is at 14 of 35 in that streak with two doubles and three RBI. He has hit in 14 straight as a starter.
ROBBIE NEEDS A KNOCK: Robinson Cano is hitless in his last 12 at-bats. His batting average has dropped from .378 to .336.
SWISH IS SAFE: Nick Swisher has played in 25 games and reached base via hit, walk or HBP in 24 of them. He has a .427 OBP and a 1.090 OPS.
OFF THE MARK: Mark Melancon has thrown 66 pitches in the majors, only half of them for strikes. His line: 3.1 2 2 2 5 2.
Back with much more later on.
UPDATE, 5:01 p.m.: A-Rod was 1 for 5 with a walk as the DH and slid into second with no issues. He’s scheduled to play again in Florida tomorrow. Still sounds like a Friday return.
UPDATE, 5:50 p.m.: Here is what is sickening about the new Yankee Stadium. The gates open three hours before the game so fans can watch BP. As I write this, here is how many people are in the premium seats watching BP from the front row and getting a good look at the players:
Three.
That’s right, three. Meanwhile, there are people six deep along the foul line in right field and left field hoping to get a ball, get an autograph, whatever. But because of the caste system in place here, they’ll never get closer.
The Rays were all talking about how strange and quiet it seems. I don’t know what the Yankees can do because of the concrete moat they built around those seats. It’s not like they can let regular people just walk down.
It’s ridiculous. It really is. What were they thinking?
UPDATE, 6:02 p.m.: The game within a game today will be Jose Molina and Burnett against Carl Crawford.
Crawford leads the majors with 19 steals, the most after 28 games since Deion Sanders had 19 after 28 games with the Reds in 1997.
Crawford also has stolen at least one base in eight straight games, making him one of six players since 1954 to accomplish that. He has 13 steals in the last eight games and has been successful in 21 straight attempts dating back to last season.
The Rays have swiped 42, the most in the majors. Molina has caught 2 of 9 runners this season. He’s usually much better than that. What transpires tonight will be interesting to watch.
UPDATE, 6:07 p.m.: Joe Girardi met with the media in the dugout before the game today. I was in the back and couldn’t quite hear everything that was going on. But it wasn’t a game of patty-cake.
One of the question was why Brett Tomko isn’t here. He has pitched 13 innings in Scranton and not allowed a earned run. His line: 13 8 0 0 4 15. Girardi didn’t really have an answer other than to say they’re considering everything.
People also are questioning why players like Veras, Ramirez and Albaladejo are still here and not working out their issues in Scranton.
Joe was going with his standard “I have faith in my players” answer. But when your team has the second-worst ERA in baseball (thanks, Cleveland), that faith would seem misplaced.
Girardi also was playing coy with A-Rod’s return, refusing to give many details other than to say they’ll see how he feels. At this point, he has had 39 plate appearances in six games in Florida.
From talking to others, the general perception is that A-Rod will be back on Friday.
It was kind of funny at one point. Girardi was asked about his weak bench and his response was that the roster “would change in a couple of days.” By that, of course, he means when Alex is back. Then he caught himself. “I’m just throwing around random numbers,” he said.
I don’t think much of this is Girardi’s fault, unless you believe his personality isn’t a good fit. You can’t pin the bullpen on him or the injuries. But the manager takes the heat.
UPDATE, 6:26 p.m.: Here’s what A-Rod told reporters in Florida:
“The slide was good. No problems. I feel good,” he said.
UPDATE, 7:08 p.m.: Look at the “crowd” behind the plate for first pitch. What an embarrassment.
UPDATE, 7:11 p.m.: That’s one way to keep Crawford from stealing bases. Strike him out.
By the the way, there are thousands and thousands of empty seats here. I have no idea if there is bad traffic or something else keeping the crowd away. But there are huge gaps of empty seats throughout the Stadium.
UPDATE, 7:42 p.m.: Cano is 0 for his last 13. … Meanwhile somebody just e-mailed to tell me the empty seats were because of the recession. Thanks, Paul Krugman. But there are more empty seats tonight than I’ve seen in the previous 11 home games.
UPDATE, 8:17 p.m.: Looks like A.J. wants to be the first Yankees to strike out a dozen since Jova Chamberlain yesterday. He has fanned seven through four innings.
1-0 Rays as the Yankees have grounded into seven outs against Sonnanstine.
UPDATE, 8:48 p.m.: Runners on first and second, nobody out, Burnett has thrown 104 pitches and nobody is warming up.
Nobody.
UPDATE, 8:50 p.m.: 2-0 Rays. More good fundamental ball from Tampa Bay.
UPDATE, 8:52 p.m.: 110 pitches and it’s 3-0 with the top of the order up. Now there’s some people moving around in the bullpen. That’s good.
UPDATE, 9:08 p.m.: The Bleacher Creatures are chanting “Boston sucks.” That makes sense. The Yankees are 0-5 against Boston and playing Tampa Bay.
UPDATE, 9:23 p.m.: Crawford has stolen a base in nine straight games. The longest streak in the majors since Cory Patterson had nine straight in 2006. The record is 12 by Bert Campaneris in 1969.
UPDATE, 9:42 p.m.: Thats it for Sonnanstine. Rays 3-0 but the Yankees have runners on second and third with one out. Jeter coming up to face Dan Wheeler.
UPDATE, 9:52 p.m.: Bases loaded, two puts, 3-0, Tex up, rain is falling. It’s like a movie.
UPDATE, 9:55 p.m.: The monster arises! Three-run double by Tex with a broken bat as it pours. We’re all tied at 3-3.
UPDATE, 9:58 p.m.: Now we have a rain delay.
If you’re in the Stadium, do not leave unless you hear an announcement.
UPDATE, 10:07 p.m.: The tarp is coming off.
UPDATE, 10:16 p.m.: Next pitch at 10:25 p.m.
UPDATE, 10:29 p.m.: Mariano Rivera was dusted off for the ninth. First action since last Thursday.
UPDATE, 10:54 p.m.: Mo has whiffed 16 without a walk this season. … Close play with Pena. Now it’s up to Molina to try and end it. He’ll face Balfour. Tampa is already on its fifth reliever.
UPDATE, 10:58 p.m.: Extra innings. The Yankees are 1 for 6 with RISP today and 4 for 25 in the last four games.
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Here’s hoping we can turn it around tonight
I’d love to know why Melancon believes his control is failing him. I’ve seen him pitch many times at AAA and his control was always great.
Melancon will turn it around. May be nerves as much as anything.
Canó could do with a knock. he looks like he’s pressing.
Some were speculating last night that Mo might be hurt. I think you have to consider that he hasn’t really had a chance to come into a game since last Thursday.
10 game winning streak starts tonight!
Wally Matthews -
Posada injury completes Yankees slide to mediocrity
http://www.newsday.com/sports/.....364.column
Are people really calling for Girardi to be fired?
How moronic is that?
Do they realize it’s May 6?
Did he hurt A-Rod, Jorge, Nady, Bruney, and Wang?
Did he construct the bullpen?
Did he neglect to sign a suitable backup catcher when Jorge is 37 years old and coming off major surgery?
What a joke some of these “fans” are.
Burnett better be lights out today.
WE LOSE!
A-Rod went 1-5 today and slid into 2nd.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.c.....guez.0190/
So A-Rod is like 5 for 35 in his rehab?
And the training staff thinks he is ready?
“I’d love to know why Melancon believes his control is failing him. I’ve seen him pitch many times at AAA and his control was always great.”
No reason, like I said before, he’s not ready yet people didn’t understand that what they did was rush him.
There is a reason why Mark was suppose to log more innings in AAA but again people pushed him and all that does is delay him and his progress, here’s hoping they don’t attempt the same crap w/ Austin Jackson that name should carry a Do Not Open till Sept. 15th sign.
R+ If you’re waiting for A-Rod to go 5-6 with home runs, you won’t see him till September.
“No reason, like I said before, he’s not ready yet people didn’t understand that what they did was rush him.”
Exactly. He pitched 10 innings this year in AAA. They were desperate and now have to deal with his growing pains.
Melancon? You learn by failing not be succeeding.
If I was Girardi, I put him out there tonight if the need arises.
The Yankees bullpen have 2 arms that are reliable: Coke and Rivera.
Three guys who are awful: Veras, Ramirez, and Albie.
Three guys we don’t know about: Aceves, Melancon, and Robertson.
JMO but, why keep going to the guys we know are awful?
Spend a week and use the 3 we don’t know about and let’s see what they are about.
Let’s face it, the bullpen is terrible. So, try something else.
Take the Awful 3, and use them in low leverage situations while taking the Unknown 3 and put them in high leverage situations to see if they can handle it.
Its the only way we are going to know if these guys are up to snuff.
Brandon: Well said.
BTW, I don’t know if you’re aware but Tabata’s out 4-6 wks with hamstring injury
And I nearly called it ‘manstring’.
That would have been interesting.
I agree about Melancon. Let him learn on the job even if it means taking a few lumps along the way. At least there’s upside with him.
We already know that Veras and Edwar are totally unreliable and pretty much useless.
I still can’t figure out why both of them are still around, especially Veras. How many chances does he get before they realize he’s junk?
Melancon had nothing left to prove in AAA. He has to pitch in the majors to get better at this point. It is very rare that a pitcher comes up from AAA and dominates.
They need to bring up Tomko and John Rodriquez
Pete,did you and your boy Arod ever hang out at Lace or Stilletto’s together?
Girardi is handling the pen the same way he did last season when some of you were praising him.
I think Robertson has earned a shot to pitch in more meaningful innings. He inherited Melancon’s mess last night and did a good job limiting the damage (albeit his walk to Bailey was really terrible). I think him, Coke, Aceves and Melancon should be at the top of the set-up pekking order right now. I also still think Veras deserves opportunities based solely on his stuff, but am completely done with Edwar and Albaladejo.
I’d hate to see them waste a single ML inning on Tomko. Guys, if you’ve ever watched him pitch, he is beyond awful. I don’t care what he is doing at AAA, he can not get ML hitters out. He is brutally awful.
Let the guys with potential get the innings and see what they can do. I know it’s a foreign idea around here, but sometimes you just have to be patient and let guys learn how to get the job done.
Tomko has had more than his fair share of chances and has failed everytime.
Rebecca I didn’t notice your new SN
Yeh unfortunately it’s growing pains now. And the one thing GI Joe can’t do is shy away from using Melancon, he’s up here he needs to finish the yr. up here for his own mindset.
Tabata got hurt again ? still 21 but I still say we traded too cheap on him. X and Marte have made this deal..can we say garbage ? it really is an awful deal.
“Melancon had nothing left to prove in AAA. He has to pitch in the majors to get better at this point. It is very rare that a pitcher comes up from AAA and dominates.”
I agree that they had to bring up Melancon and have to send him right back out. However, Melancon was up briefly at the end of last year and early this year. SWB played some of the IL bottom feeders early on so he wasn’t tested as much. I would argue that he could have plenty to prove at AAA but this bullpen need him here throwing strikes.
I’m still a huge Melancon guy.
Unfortunately, because our bullpen is so bad, he’s forced to come in in pressure situations, as a rookie. That is tough.
I have little doubt he’ll get it together, but I’ve seen his stuff and it is NASTY. Nobody that talented will struggle forever.
By the way, Coke is still one of my guys.
I can take a wild guess why the seats are empty behind homeplate, who wants to pay 1 grand to watch a .500 ballclub?
>10 game winning streak starts tonight!
Immediately followed by a 10-game skid.
Tmvp, Coke is basically doing a hand stand w/ the BP.
Wow, the bridge jumpers are here.
If our pitching staff gets it together and we get A-Rod we’ll do fine.
you know what is really a joke… people giving a manager who is 102-86 since he took over the Yankees a total free pass…. I mean seriously does Girardi even have any strengths as a manager…. hes not good with the bullpen, his lineups are often redundant, he doesnt call for plays enough (hit and runs, etc) and CLEARLY he is not a master motivator. Sure Girardi hasnt had the best luck since he took over, injuries being the biggest culprit there, but still the bottom line is that his team has underperformed drastically since he took over. Often times lately, other clubs with less talent will beat us simply because they are better focused and prepared, and also hungrier. These are areas that point to coaching and areas that are we are severely lacking in. Im not trying to deny we have some scrubs on the roster right now. But my problem is that this coaching staff is not getting the most out of these players, not even close. And its starting to become a trend.
“I can take a wild guess why the seats are empty behind homeplate, who wants to pay 1 grand to watch a .500 ballclub?”
Correct. In this economy, spending money to watch a mediocre team is not a high priority.
UPDATE, 4:03 p.m.: Let the meetings begin. The coaches had a big meeting at 3 p.m. and now they’re meeting with the players.
The last refuge for a desperate team is a meeting. But it can’t hurt.
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Meetings already? Whatever works.
I still vote for voodoo priest
Over next month of so, they really need to move some of the starters on the farm into the pen. It worked for Coke last year and maybe guys like Kontos, Hacker, Horne, or Garcia (if he’s healthy) could thrive in that role.
Brandon,
Its not a bad deal when the “prize” of the deal is hitting .240 in AA, is still overweight, and is hurt again.
Tabata has fallen off the map as a prospect.
No scout I know who has seen him in the spring and before he was hurt was impressed with him.
Al,
80% of the seats are sold behind homeplate.
When the team started out 21-29 in 2005, and was in worse shape than this one, the stands were packed every night.
It has nothing to do with the record. It has to do with a lot of other market conditions.
Namely, corporations who purchased the tickets, banks that took TARP money specifically, don’t want to have their people seen having a good time.
Its a problem and they have to figure out a way to address it because it doesn’t make the Yankees look good to have all those empty seats behind home plate.
Brandon “We are all going to meet Berroa under the Oneill banner” “I LOVE ME SOME ME !”-You think we can make Coke the long man, seventh, and setup man?
SJ44
May 6th, 2009 at 3:35 pm
I think the Yankees, and their fans by extension, need to re-adjust their short term goals.
The goal should be to be within 5 games of a playoff spot by the 4th of July.
By that time, if all the rehabs go as planned, Arod, Posada, Nady, Wang, Bruney and Marte should be back and healthy.
A trade market will be better formed to fix the broken parts of the team.
If they get everybody back by the 4th of July, and they are within 5 games of a playoff spot, they will then have the horses to make a run.
Right now, its treading water time. Its all they can do.
Gotta just grind and find ways to win games right now and stay close until they get some of these wounded warriors back.
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SJ, I know there are some imposters out there but I am getting confused. This is not exactly what I am reading on some of your other posts.I don’t know maybe I am reading some of them wrong. Which is the real you?
And please dont take offense at my question
>I can take a wild guess why the seats are empty behind homeplate,
>who wants to pay 1 grand to watch a .500 ballclub?
Also fixed into the price of those tickets is the opportunity to display your disgust on local television by stomping on every step as you leave the game early.
KO is the early frontrunner for dumbest post of the day.
The team isn’t prepared or hungry enough. Yep, that’s what’s wrong.
“Tabata got hurt again ? still 21 but I still say we traded too cheap on him. X and Marte have made this deal..can we say garbage ? it really is an awful deal.”
I’m glad to see your hindsight is 20/20.
is it just me or do we need another hitter off the bench, we need someone who can pinch hit for the c, in the later innings because it is like having a pitcher up with that spot
call up either shelly duncan who is tearing up AAA or juan miranda. if they call up duncan they should wait when arod gets back that way duncan can take berroa’s spot on the 40man when he is DFA
Bob,
As far as Tomko is concerned, here is the way I look at it….
One of their problems in the bullpen is they have too many younger arms in it. They can’t abuse those guys.
Tomko is a veteran guy you can abuse (use a lot if he is effective) a bit.
Plus, its not a season long deal.
If the guy can help them in the next 3-4 weeks, why not?
Career journeymen like Aaron Small and Shawn Chacon have come here and helped the team. Why not Tomko?
Put it another way, its a helluva lot better than watching Veras, Ramirez and Albie stink it up every night.
Its a no lose deal for the Yankees. If he stinks, you release him. If he can help for a month or so (or until Bruney and Marte get back) I don’t see how that’s a bad thing.
Melancon was not rushed. What more did he have to accomplish at Scranton?
His velocity was there, his control was impeccable in the minors. He challenged hitters and his makeup is supposedly off the charts. He was also extremely efficient.
Any young pitcher is going to be nervous coming up to the bigs. That’s understandable. But that wasn’t exactly a high leverage situation he was thrown into last night. I found it a little unsettling that he struggled so mightily to throw strikes.
He’s a two pitch pitcher. Curve and fastball. He’s got to locate get them both to have any chance at being successful.
Again, young pitchers, especially starters, are going to struggle with control from time to time.
Given that Melancon is a reliever and his location had been so pinpoint in the minors, I find it a bit more concerning.
I would say “last refuage” and “desperate” are a little melodramatic considering what stage of the season we’re in. Not trying to undermine the fact that this is clearly being done for a reason (i.e., to stop losing and looking like the team belongs in the International League), but it’s not exactly like the season is reaching critical mass right at this moment.
Before the season started, people said they had to tread water while A-Rod was out. Now they’re treading water, at 500 and probably going up, and you’re all giving up on them? Or, if not giving up, losing faith?
Andrew-Agreed 100%.
Tabata got hurt again ? still 21 but I still say we traded too cheap on him. X and Marte have made this deal..can we say garbage ? it really is an awful deal.
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No way you know Nady would be hurt.
I have still seen nothing with Tabata that indicates he is a future star, and now he is hurt again. And Karstens and Ohlendorf were never going to pitch full time in ny.
Melancon will be fine. Girardi has mis-managed him ala Torre two years ago with Edwar. I agree with SJ44, get him and Robertson in high pressure situations, but please not bases loaded in the 6th type of situations, let them start innings and work their way up the ladder.
Anything on game threads after the game begins is not me.
I don’t post during the games anymore because I can’t deal with the psychos and the imposters.
What are meetings going to accomplish?
Take out the Red Sox, and we are 5 games over .500.
We just can’t beat the Red Sox. They are better than us in every facet.
We have no problem beating everyone else. Outside of Baltimore, we have won or split the series with every other team except Boston. We’re playing fine against the rest of the league, just not against Boston. Playing a good team like that really exposes our flaws that we can get away with against lesser teams.
“I’ve been to two games so far and each time there were quite a few empty seats where I am, up in the Terrace section. Also, the Field seats behind the Legends seats haven’t seemed very full, either. ”
I was at one game this year and it was pretty full. Like 70-100% full in most sections except the Legends seats. From what Pete has said, other games have been like that as well.
I want nothing to do with Tomko. He is a bad pitcher and shouldn’t be on our team. There is no need for 2 long relievers.
7th and SU no more than that. I don’t want to wear out Cokey’s arm.
Shelley should pinch hit. He’s no good as a starter, but we need a pinch hitter with POWER. Or maybe Miranda, who I’ve heard is a big prospect.
SJ4, I jsut have zero faith in Tomko. I’ve seen enough of him to be fairly certain of his awfulness. lol
Sure, if they want to bring someone up to eat innings in a blow out and save some wear and tear on the other guys, I guess that would have some use for the team.
Just would hope that they never pitch him in a game where they still have hopes of winning it.
Tom-O come on. Better than us in every facet? That’s just not true.
The Red Sox always beat us in the first half, people panic, and then we start beating them. You act like we’ve been dominated, and this is all with Tex asleep, ARod out, and our starting five performing below expectations.
We are primed for a great second half run.
I don’t know how anyone can say Melancon was not rushed at SWB. I think he will be fine but come on. A few innings last year with SWB and then 10 this year? I’m sure the plan was to have him there a heck of a lot longer. Not syaing he shouldn’t have been called up but he was rushed.
Brandon “We are all going to meet Berroa under the Oneill banner” “I LOVE ME SOME ME !”-I hope you realize I was joking.
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. The bullpen is going to look awful when the starting staff is awful.
They’re pitching way too many innings. Want the BP to look better? How about the starters pitching 7 innings every night for a change? In the last week only 1 pitcher has pitched into the seventh.
Until the starters get their acts together don’t expect the relievers to get their’s together.
Can’t have the worst starters ERA and expect a lights out BP. The two work in concert usually.
raymagnetic-That is a great point I haven’t considered. And we know our starters are far too talented and sucessful not to improve.
http://sports.espn.go.com/espnmag/story?id=4145564
“call up either shelly duncan who is tearing up AAA or juan miranda.”
John Rodriguez and Todd Linden can actually play a decent OF and Linden can play center. That’s a lot more flexiblity and they also are hitting with SWB.
I agree we will come back, but it is definitely frustrating, even considering despite our injuries, they are without sterortiz hitting, beckett era over 7, no dice-k, youk was out, no ss. i mean they are banged up too. no excuses for the domination, but it is in the past and we can start fresh with tampa, then go make examples out of baltimore and toronto.
Teix – It takes more than just look at the box score to understand.
Tomko has been closing in Scranton and has pitched very well.
Its not about giving him a 3 year contract. Its about trying a guy who has pitched well and see if he can help fill a hole, even if its temporary, on the team.
That’s all it is.
He may be “awful” or, he may be a helluva lot better than the other guys right now.
Either way, I don’t see the downside of trying him.
Its not like he is replacing Mariano.
He would be replacing guys who have ERA’s over 7 and are averaging almost 10 walks per 9 innings of work.
The bar isn’t exactly being set high for somebody to come in here and do well. Being at least functional is at least a start.
About time these players start earning their paychecks
We are paying these players a lot of money to perform and it is simply unacceptable how they are playing.
They better step it up and better step it up now.
Just for the hell of it, my ideal starting lineup for 2010:
Jeter LF
Cano 2B
Teixeira 1B
ARod 3B
Posada C
Swisher DH
Cabrera RF
Jackson CF
Pena SS (Orlando Cabrera / good glove)
Rotate in Cabrera to spell Jackson, Jeter & Swisher in the OF and Posada will probably give you 80 games behind the plate next year.
Tom-I watched. We had chances to win four of five.
Later in the season, when everything is cohesive, we win those games. We’ve done it before.
By the way aaron, love the link to Venditte. He looks like he’ll be a great player for us in a few years.
This blog is on fire today. Way too much to even try to catch up. One stat Pete posted stands out:
“Nine of his 12 strikeouts were on called third strikes, the most in one game since September 2, 2001, when Mike Mussina recorded nine called strikeouts in his near-perfect game against the Red Sox.”
Joba isn’t getting enough swing-and-misses.
Haven’t we already seen the Shelley Duncan story guys?
Now that ML pitchers figured him out it’s nothing but Ks for him.
He was a great story for those couple of weeks 2 years ago, but that’s all it was ever going to be for him.
SJ44-I see your point, but Aceves pitched well. What’s wrong with him as long man?
With Tomko shouldn’t we at least see what he has if anything before we lose him in June??
Please he cannot be any worse at this point that Veras, Alby and Ramirez.
Can you imagine if we dont see what he has lose him in June and he does well for someone else fans would have the Yankees head on this. The guy pitched well in ST and in MO was the single worse mistake in the cuts out of SPring and when I was at the Girardi breakfast he said it was the most difficult send down of the Spring as well.
Am I the only one concerned about Arod when he returns? I’m lookin forward to having him back in the lineup for sure, but with all the pressure the guy is gonna be under to perform he may end up slumping for a while first.. Him and Tex might look like little leaguers out there.
I hope I’m wrong of course, I’m just sayin I dont think he’s gonna come back and turn us around like everyone else seems to think..
Bob(The Original)-PINCH HITTER not starter.
Nick in SF-Who cares about swing and misses? He’s still striking them out.
Shame Spencer-I’m not concerned. Even if he starts slow, when ARod is hot he is ON FIRE.
Maxx,
How much are you paying toward the payroll this year?
Mike Francesa callers belong on his show and not on this blog.
Tomko has been bad in the past, but has he ever been tried as a one inning type out of the bullpen?
I’m with SJ44. Lets give him a bullpen shot. We have nothing to lose.
I don’t think we can turn away any pitcher for a bullpen audition that is showing they are throwing strikes.
Tomko was hot in ST and has been lights out for SWB.
The Yankees could pay whatever they want, I’m not paying.
They’re losing money, not me.
Anyway, the new guys are going to do fine.
Who cares about strikeouts when you’re losing ball games?
E-gawa: It shows that Joba, hopefully, will be effective later in the year.
We need our pitchers to get on a roll.
Joe Monte: Jeter’s not going to left field, especially not before his contract is up.
Anyway, if you are going to move him, why put him in a spot that requires more range and not less?
Yea pete, i said in my last post what a joke fracessa and basically his entire show has become. The guy pretends to still be a yankee fan but it is abundantly clear that there is nothing he likes about this team outside of jeter, posada and mo. You cant root for a team and hate everybody that composes so its time for mike to either stop bashing every single thing the yankees do or stop pretending like he is a fan of this team.
Its every single day with this guy talking about how much he hates this or that – just give it a rest francessa. They certainly should boot him off YES if they can figure out how to fill the air time because he is nailing the coffin closed in may for some reason. He has become worse than chris russo – at least he never pretended like he liked the yanks. I think Mike’s love for the yanks ended when they let go of Mike’s idol and favorite yankee of all time bernie williams but its time to let that go already.
Where’d the Jeter stuff come from?
So far (I may be wrong, but I don’t think so) Jeter is playiing a very passable defensive shortstop.
Dave-W/o Mad Dog he is just an arrogant blowhard who says what he wants with no voice of opposition.
I would argue against pigeon holing Aceves into the “long man.” Yes he has been a starter but in a one or two inning stint he can throw strikes and his velocity will jump a bit too.
Still need a long man? Steven Jackson still deserves a shot here guys. He can go multiple innings and be a long man. He’s making a spot start for SWB tomorrow.
I will say right now that MARK MELANCON will be one of the best relievers/setup man and the yanks will have one of the best bullpen in baseball on September first of this year. YOU HEARD IT HERE FIRST. I also think that if the injuries stop coming in at 7 per month, this team can easily finish with 95 wins minimum. They will go on a run at some point soon and probably never really look back – the offense is great and the rotation is nasty and nothing about april has changed those facts.
Why do people even listen to Mike Francessa? Or any sports/call in type shows? All they are is cesspools of stupidity.
Just think about it. You want to sit and listen to people who have nothing better to do than sit on hold for hours so they can get on the air for 15 seconds to say some moronic thing?
I don’t get why anyone wastes their time with that garbage.
Bob(The Original)
May 6th, 2009 at 3:44 pm
Are people really calling for Girardi to be fired?
Ah Bob, some of us never wanted Joe G to start with. He is not currently capable of managing the Yankees. It was a huge mistake by the Yankees hiring him. Now we have to watch this play out while still rooting for the team to win in spite of him. Last year was pathetic, as he had his 2 guys as Coaches that were living with him as his only source of input and trust. Joe G is a control freak who is scared of his own shadow. His ego is bigger than ARods IMO, and Posada is a threat to him. Joe T was a lousy Manager to start as well, but with the Braves & Mets. He became a great Manager with the Yankees.
George would have fired Joe G last year and especially after an 0-5 start against the RSox! Of course the real George probably would have fired Joe T a couple of years earlier and brought in Pinella.
Billy-But we need a long man, he’s been a starter and barring the HR he was an effective long man. Why not use him? And anyway, how do we know his velocity will improve?
How can aceves be our long man when he is one of four relievers that actually throws strikes right now. We can use him as a long man but he needs to fill the role of a seventh inning guy as well. Long man should be failed starters who arent all that great for an inning or two either so they pitch just to eat up innings.We cant use one of our better arms just for that right now.
Dave-Absolutely.
By the way, I’m a Joe G guy and have continually said and will reiterate that I think Joe G will be our manager on opening day next year. I’m calling it.
At this point I’m all for giving Tomko a try and I was dead against it.
The pen is horrible and they need to shuffle the deck until they find a winning hand. Bring him up.
I also think the bench needs to be addressed. With Cervelli up here, you have the opportunity to pinch hit for Molina in key situations and you need a better hitter than Gardner/Berroa to do that.
Then let Cervelli catch the later innings.
Too often the game situation finds the catcher or the 3b in a key moment where we need a professional hitter. Girardi needs real options and I think he has some at AAA in terms of bench hitters.
The 40 man roster problem really is a problem. I saw that Brayan Pena, a backup catcher who apparently can hit, went unclaimed and was sent back to AAA for KC. I remember a few people mentioning him in here (Brandon, I think).
That should have been an instant claim for Cashman since at worst he’s better than Cervelli and a switch hitter.
They have to fix this and I think some of these arms need to go.
Veras is tough to get rid of because of his stuff. Cashman knows he’s going to be good somewhere else. I just think he has to come to terms with the fact that it’s most likely not going to be here.
I don’t know if many of you are even aware of the Barca-Chelsea match on espn2 right now, but…
WOW!!!!
Dave-He doesn’t have one inning type stuff. At least that’s how it seems to me.
Cervelli will be worse than Molina. He has worse offense AND worse defense.
We need to get a catcher.
I should have said his velocity MIGHT jump. I agree that a guy is needed that can go multiple innings but that also could could be Jackson. I would give Aceves a shot in a one-inning stint and look at Jackson as a possiblity for a pen spot. He was good in ST and has been solid for SWB.
“I don’t know if many of you are even aware of the Barca-Chelsea match on espn2 right now, but…
WOW!!!!”
Who’s pitching?
Bob – there are decent shows out there. It doesnt matter what the callers say nearly as much as how intelligent the host(s) are. Michael kay’s show and steve summer’s show are enjoyable to listen to even though they have some dumb calls because they arent morons who harp on the same things. There are some other ones that are alright and a few that are terrible but all it depends on the host.
OK RayVT, name me a manager who would be doing a better job with his his two best hitters out of the lineup, the worst hitting catcher in the last 25 years playing ful time, no CFer, no one besides Mo in the bullpen who is reliable, no decent bats on the bench, etc.
I’ll wait for your answer. And don’t just give me a name. Spell out for me how they would be getting more out what Girardi has to work with right now than he is.
Nick: Thanks for telling me!
“E-gawa: It shows that Joba, hopefully, will be effective later in the year.
We need our pitchers to get on a roll.”
I don’t see how throwing 83 pitches in 4 innings shows that.
He threw 88 pitches in 7 innings with his previous start, with 6 K’s. That was more impressive than last night.. And it was a WIN.. So it can be appreciated.
Yanks need to come out early and score some runs tonight.
I love Boomer and Carton. Carton has no idea what he’s talking about, but its impossible to take him seriously and he’s highly entertaining.
E-gawa: You’re missing the point. The point is that he’s proved he can have dynamite stuff and still start. Granted the first inning was bad, which is why he lost, but the point is that w/o the first (which of course counts but is probably more the aberration than the norm) Joba has proven he doesn’t need to set up to be dominant. And after the first he was dominant.
Anyway, if you are going to move him, why put him in a spot that requires more range and not less?
The range needed at SS is completely different than the range needed at LF. There’s no comparison. Jeter has always been great at tracking fly balls and has a great arm. There would definitely be some misplays early on, but I think he’d be able to be at least a league average left fielder towards the end of his first season.
He’s not going to be Torii Hunter, but he won’t be Vlad Guerrero either.
“SJ44-I see your point, but Aceves pitched well. What’s wrong with him as long man?”
I’m not sold on Aceves who gave up 7 walks in his 4+innings.
As was discussed yesterday, on a catcher replacement for Posada, looking over the 2nd stringers on other teams, there are very few hitting better than Jose Molina. You don’t want Chad Moeller, Corky Miller, Ramon Castro. Forget about Saltalamacchia, because his backup, Teagarden is barely hitting his weight.
Al from BK: so you’re holding off on calling the loss ’til gametime?
what’s the rays lineup
teixeiramvp
I guess he doesnt have one-inning type stuff because he has been groomed as a starter throughout the minors but his stuff is too good for him to be coming in during games in which we need a long man which usually mean blowouts. He is currently our fourth best arm out of the pen and maybe even our third best – he needs to pitch in close games and in late innings because we have NO ONE else to do that right now. When bruney and marte and others start coming around, he can be the long man but for now, he is too valuable to be considered the long man.
As Egawa said, 83 pitches to get 14 outs is not impressive.
Because we had to get 3.1 innings from our awful pen. He need to stop trying to K everyone and learn how to be efficient.
Dave, that stuff just gives me a headache. If I’m in the car I’d rather listen to music. Although some of the baseball shows they have on XM can be pretty good. I actually really used to like the one Charlie Steiner had, The Beat. Nice low key, casual, informative show. No screaming and yelling about inane garbage like so many shows do.
Is Joba warming up enough in the pen? Why is he coming out so flat?
Don’t see Jeter moving anytime soon to the outfield, and about his arm, those sidearm throws of his often force Tex to dig them out of the dirt.
Bob(The Original)-I’m a Girardi guy, but I’ve gotten to see Somerset Patriots games several times over the past few years and I was amazed they didn’t at least consider their manager Sparky Lyle. Sparky was an excellent pitcher for awhile with the Yanks and with Somerset he has one a league high four championships, including his last one where in the deciding game he scored 2 runs in the eighth to tie the game then capped it off with a 9th inning championship winning walk off HR. I’d have loved to see him manage the Yanks.
Bob(The Original)
Ah how about Francona!
Mark21-I agree that is not the point.
The outing proved that he doesn’t need to set up to dominate. The first was bd and lost us the game, and Joba deserves to be grilled for that. But after that, he dominated. Why am I going out on a limb to call that a good sign?
Joba needs to stop trying to pace himself. He needs to just go out there and throw. Attack. Use his best stuff early.
Nothing to gain from throwing 90 MPH meatballs in the 1st inning.
Yankeetrader,
When did he give up 7 walks in 4 innings? Not this year in the majors.
Barca was a minute or two from elimination until scoring the winning goal 3 minutes into injury time. Now they advance to the finals vs. Manchester United and Chelsea goes nowhere.
Thank goodness, now I have a side to root for in the finals. Man U vs. Chelsea would’ve been like the Iran-Iraq war.
one in my post on Sparky is won.
Joba needs to learn how to minimize damage in the 1st inning. Like most power pitchers he gets better as he throws more pitches and as he finds the zone/gets command of all his pitches. As you might have noticed Joba from the 2nd inning on looked like an ace as opposed to the 1st. Definitely something Eiland and Joba need to cover together. I also disagree with Girardi taking Joba out when he was on a ridiculous roll.
Bob,
Thats understandable – they give me headaches too sometimes but so do the yankees and I keep watching/listening to both.
It’s pretty obvious that there are
Joba needs to… continue developing as a starter. That’s all.
Al from BK-Yeah, I get why Girardi did it, but I would have left him in.
By the way, anybody else see Joba yell a word that begins with F and ends in k when Pedroia got a seeing eye single? Funny.
“Al from BK: so you’re holding off on calling the loss ‘til gametime?”
It all depends on Burnett. If he looks like the Burnett who had a no-no going into the 7th then we’ll be fine. If AJ pitches like he did last time then not so much.
” What more did he have to accomplish at Scranton?”
my pet peeve phrase.
the fact is most of the players from scranton are incomplete players and have to learn on the job at the mlb level. almost all the young players could use as much time there as they can get.
CONSISTENCY!
That is the name of the game.
This applies to Joba last night and Hughes the night before.
This applies to the bullpen. Coke has been great of late, but who else has down there in the pen?
Here’s a Brett Tomko breakdown on starting vs relieving.
I Split
W L W-L% ERA G GS GF CG SHO SV IP H
as Starter 88 91 .492 4.62 260 260 0 12 1 0 1563.2 1650
7 8 .467 4.47 108 0 29 0 0 2 177.1 183 109 88
R ER HR BB IBB SO HBP BK WP BF WHIP SO/9 SO/BB
869 803 205 493 41 1032 32 2 6747 1.370 5.9 2.09
109 88 34 66 10 130 4 1 776 1.404 6.6 1.97
Look under Pitcher’s Role
http://www.baseball-reference......er&t=p
Joba easily K’s the next batter if Girardi leaves him in he was on that much of a roll. I honestly haven’t seen a young pitcher deal like that since Johan in 03-04.
Grr… need an edit button on here…
Anyway…
It’s pretty obvious that there are people here that only care about wins/losses, not about player development, not about the long term goals/success of the team.
That Joba had a bad 1st is not the question. The point that many are making (over and over) is that he adjusted and not only pitched better, but dominated the opposition. He kept the Yankees in the game. Someone (I forget who) said that the Yanks shouldn’t have to score 5 to win. Guess what, some nights, yes they do. Sometimes they have to score 10. And considering they had ample opportunities to plate 5, if not more, I think it is an incredibly good sign that Joba shook off the bad 1st and took control of the game. Pitch count vs. outs will come down, but that’s also what you get with a power/strike out pitcher. As he begins to get better with his slider for strike, the pitches/batter will come down.
One or two hits in the right spot and the conversation would be a lot different.
Hey guys, great article from River Ave Blues:
http://riveraveblues.com/2009/.....ent-368873
Sorry there’s no hyperlink, you’ll have to copy and paste. I thnk it’s a great idea.
Shelley Duncan = Pedro Cerano
The Other Phil-Well, thanks.
“E-gawa: You’re missing the point. The point is that he’s proved he can have dynamite stuff and still start. Granted the first inning was bad, which is why he lost, but the point is that w/o the first (which of course counts but is probably more the aberration than the norm) Joba has proven he doesn’t need to set up to be dominant. And after the first he was dominant.”
I wasn’t counting the first inning.. with the first inning, he threw 108 pitches. I was talking about his “dominant” part.. It took 83 pitches to get 14 outs. That’s not good at all. He barely qualified for the game.
Oh, there is a hyperlink.
Bob(The Original)
And Joe T last year with the Dodgers! He lost SS, 3B, SP1, CL (2 of them), Setup, and others as well.
Joe G has more excuse than anything. There is a reason the Marlins said good riddance. Yanks didn’t do their due dilligence in naming him the Manager.
I could also name Pinella. Madden with Tampa. and several others. Perhaps you should look at what Joe G has done and ask why some of this crap is happening to begin with. It was easy to say Joe T blew out Proctor & Sturtze’s arms but the same folks don’t say Joe G blew out Bruney & Marte. Not to mention Veras. Up until April 22nd, Veras had really 1 bad outing. Then Joe G, who is so stubborn it is ridiculous, used Veras twice in 4 days for 3 innings or more. I can’t tell you how many times Veeras was up in the bullpen as well but didn’t come into the game. but those 2 games where Veras became a defacto long man screwed his performances up since. So down goes Veras, Bruney & Marte.
randy, I rib you from time to time, but I have to say that you’ve been on a serious roll lately and I agree with a lot of what you’ve said. After some early shaky outings, I think I can safely say that you have nothing left to learn on LoHud.
Adam Schein is going to go crazy about Joba pumping his fist in a start where he gave up 4 runs
jeter= DOne
E-gawa: That’s just not fair. He had 12 strikeouts. He retired his last eight batters by strikeout and didn’t allow any more runs. That is dominance, and if he wasn’t on a pitch count he would have gone seven, and if he weren’t on apitch count and he had a decent first he could have completed the game. His balls to strikes ratio must have been fantastic, I’ll have to look it up.
Teix: stop it, your head is starting to bleed from hitting it against the wall…
RayVT-He won less games than the Yanks in a weak division, and probably wouldn’t have won w/o an infusion of Manny.
I understand your point but be fair here.
“As Egawa said, 83 pitches to get 14 outs is not impressive.
Because we had to get 3.1 innings from our awful pen. He need to stop trying to K everyone and learn how to be efficient.”
The Red Sox were taking pitches. He can’t make them swing. The guy had like 8 backwards K’s. He’s also 23 years old, and will get better at going deeper into games as he gets more experience.
Some of you idiots need to realize that it’s his first full season starting in the majors.
Thanks Teix for RAB link.
I’m always torn as I walk across the street in the shadow of Gate 2.
Al from BK: so you’re saying that the performance of tonight’s starting pitcher will have an impact on when you give up on the game? Interesting stuff. I have to think about that.
The Other Phil-Acually, you’ve hit the nail right on the head.
Some of these comments drive me crazy.
Joba threw 108 pitches, 65 strikes
They are not going to make a 40 man roster move to bring up Tomko or Rodriguez unless they have to 60 day dl somebody or make a trade.
I can’t believe people want to bring in career journeymen as the savior of the bullpen and bench…..please.
Nick please tell a burger king joke asap
That being said, I love discussing this stuff.
If the Yanks get 40,000 a game at the new stadium they’ll be making a ton of cash. I think they’re getting more than that, paid at least. With those ticket prices, food and concessions and all that at the new place, they’ll be jsut fine. I’m sure they’re raking in more cash this year than last year when they sold out every game.
RayVT, how would Francona, Piniella, Madden have overcome the losses of A-Rod, Wang, Nady, and Posada? Not to mention the lack of a legit CFer. Or the fact there is no bench and no positional depth in the minors?
And talk to me about Torre when the Dodgers are in a divsion that is even 25% as competitive as the AL East.
Did 1050 ESPN fire Gordan Damer? Haven’t heard from him in awhile. Seem like that station is getting rid of all the Yankee fan host.
another question you have to ask …. why is phil cokes velocity so low?
95-97 to 88-92
The Red Sox strategy was smart– make Joba throw strikes and get him out of the game. You got your 4 runs, now the strategy is to work his pitch count, even if it meant taking all the called strike 3s, to get him out of the game and get to the crappy bullpen to pad the lead.
Joba was dealing after that 1st inning, so they decided to just wait him out. That’s what all teams will do against us. Our bullpen = automatic runs. Other teams know this.
Justin C-If he’s doing well, who cares?
Can’t get a decent post through.
I’m not the imposter!
Joba Chamberlain is a headhunter! Part of the game? Perhaps. Hope he gets equal treatment when he steps into the batter’s box during interleague play
Trevor – I think he left on his own. He works for YES now. He hosts This week in Football and does some other things
yea exactly since hes doing well lets not worry about it lol
that is a pretty serious difference…
Eric-Then the solution (putting getting a better bullpen aside) is to have Joa pitch a better first inning.
If our starters go deeper, our bullpen pitch less innings and will improve.
Yeah imagine that. Some of us would want to try another guy, career journeyman or not, to replace the career journeymen currently stinking up the bullpen.
Let’s not try anything and think these guys will just find it.
That’s a proactive way of solving the problem.
I guess you guys forget people like Aaron Small and Shaun Chacon.
Sometimes, you need to try things to see if they work.
What if they called him up and he pitched well for a month?
For some of you statheads yes, it won’t change his Baseball Reference bio.
But, he would help THIS team. Isn’t that the goal?
Or, do some of you believe you know for a fact he can’t do anything here?
Just like you knew this would be the worst bullpen in the league and Mark Teixeira would be hitting under .200 on May 6, right?
Its a no lose situation for the Yankees. Unless of course they don’t want to fix their bullpen.
If that’s the case, keep the status quo. Its worked so well thus far.
Yaz: Is it too hard to request that you actually add to the conversation? Thanks.
we are doomed.
Joba throws a gem after the 1st and people are finding ways to still criticize him.
If you can’t be excited about what Joba did last night, you need to find a new hobby.
SJ44-Below 200 maybe not, but I assumed he’d struggle.
yanks are avg. 47,000 per night.
yankee meeting, paraphrasing to pitchers. guys throw strikes if you don’t you will be gone.. enuf said……
why would you be scared to throw strikes? to aj, cc, joba, melancon, veras, who all have power arms and throw minimum 94 mph…..
You think it was the Red Sox strategy to strike out 12 of their last 16 AB’s with Joba, 8 of them looking?
That’s pretty funny.
That wasn’t a strategy. He dominated them.
Geez, do some of you even know anything about baseball?
I want Mahlanson in the game today
Don’t make him sit around thinking about this outing
Give him a chance to redeem himself and get out there immediately. Winning or losing, let him pitch tonight.
This board needs a collective quoning.
DUNEDIN, Fla. (AP) — Alex Rodriguez slid for the first time since hip surgery, going 1-for-5 with a walk in a New York Yankees extended spring training game.
The three-time AL MVP says he doesn’t know whether he’ll rejoin the Yankees on Friday in Baltimore.
He singled up the middle as a designated hitter Wednesday, and in the third inning he walked and slid into second on an infield grounder.
“The slide was good. No problems. I feel good,” the third baseman said.
Rodriguez had hip surgery March 9 and has been on the disabled list since the start of the season.
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SJ44: See comment to Teix re: bleeding head…
“E-gawa: That’s just not fair. He had 12 strikeouts. He retired his last eight batters by strikeout and didn’t allow any more runs. That is dominance, and if he wasn’t on a pitch count he would have gone seven, and if he weren’t on apitch count and he had a decent first he could have completed the game. His balls to strikes ratio must have been fantastic, I’ll have to look it up.”
You’re overrating the strikeout. It’s an out. It counts the same as a flyball out or a Groundball out. On top of that it took him an average of near 6 pitches to reach 1 K.. so had he not been on a pitch count.. he wouldn’t have gone much farther.. he was at 108 and averaging 20+ an inning.. 7th inning would have been near 150 pitches.. that doesn’t happen in todays game.
It’s pretty funny how Francesa makes a big deal out of Joba’s fist pumps and showing emotion on the mound when he’s said repeatedly that Joba’s not suited for the rotation because the Yanks have “de-clawed him.”
Hell, he’s asked Girardi several times about it and argued that he doesn’t have the same “presence” on the mound when he was pitching out of the pen.
Pavano Pitching at Fenway Tonight
The Redsox will pretend Pavano is still pitching for the Yankees … Thus the score will be …
Redsox 34
Indians 2
I’m sick of the praising Torre talk, Scranton could compete in the NL West
Teixeiramvp (JobaCyYoung)
May 6th, 2009 at 4:59 pm
RayVT-He won less games than the Yanks in a weak division, and probably wouldn’t have won w/o an infusion of Manny.
I understand your point but be fair here.
Sure I understand! But guess what Torre did the same thing with the Yankees with a lot less talent than Girardi had last year. Small, Chacon, S Duncan, S Spencer, etc. I am sure you remember when you had to have a computer to find out who some of these guys were. Girardi is wrong now for the NYY. I said this consistently since he was hired. Fervently since Jan. I also said if the Yanks don’t replace him by AS break they won’t make the playoffs. I also said Boston would end up in 4th place at the end of the year, behind TB, NYY & Toronto. BTW, maybe Cito Gaston should be added to that list of Managers who lost everything and has their team in a position to win. If it smells like crap, looks like crap and acts like crap, then it is probably crap. Maybe some teambuilding exercises can help! LOL!
Yanks lose & Joe G sulks alone in his office. Excuse me, but the best teams lose 30% of the games or more. He has to instill confidence in his players. He has to talk with them. Encourage, let them know their status and not let them wonder and feel like every pitch may be their last. He may be a great guy, but I don’t think so. Joe G is a control freak that is out of control.
Torre took a weak Dodger team, managed their egos and huge inexperience to a division championship. Manny was a key. But Joe T had them ready and the onslot of injuries that beset them was notable as well.
Pete: Davidoff is reporting a setback for Bruney via Twitter, do you have any details on this?
Sorry to point this out a bit late Pete, but in the Arod/Madonna thread, among Madonna’s many conquests you mentioned:
“Guy Ritchie (director)”
As someone who has sat through gems like Rock’n'Rolla and Revolver, and on behalf of Hitchcock, Welles, Eastwood and other great film-makers, I would say that at the very least a retraction is in order.
PS struggling to get this comment through – are film comments banned?
Bottom line – Joba gave up 4 ERs in 5.2 innings. Took 83 pitches to record 14 outs.
That is not good. Who cares about the strikeouts? Earned runs > strikeouts.
Ken Davidoff is reporting there has been a setback for Bruney via twitter no more info than that @kendavidoff
Chacon was through a trade and Small was a matter of needing a spot start out of necessity. Your right, no one knew the guy would win 10 in a row, but this situation is hardly like either of those. They don’t need a 25th bench guy and the 7th man in the bullpen to stay competitive until the 7 players on the DL get back. Not when you are going to expose one of your promising young guys in the minors by making a 40 man move. It just doesnt make sense
Boston Dave: glad you made it out of the Central Valley safely. It’s a little gloomy in my corner of San Francisco right now, hope things are looking brighter in your micro-climate. If you need any Berkeley tips, feel free to ask. Michelle B. and Buddy B. are closer to the seen, but I used to spend a lot of time over there and still return a lot.
Jeter has absolutely no range to his left and that leads to additional runs over the course of the season. I believe Jeter can definitely handle playing LF for the Yankees next season and beyond.
Unless that “setback” for Bruney occurred today, I think it’s the same one that Pete reported a couple of days ago.
Sorry, I can’t let go of this story yet. Cruel world.
http://deadspin.com/5242844/wh.....-press-box
Oh, and we’re all watching the games anyway — we may as well be optimistic. Why suffer? When you’re 13-13, the glass is half full to me…we have hit bottom and can’t get much lower. I feel lucky that our bottom is .500 ball through a lot of adversity. Enjoy the game.
How many starters do you see who pump their fist after already giving up 4 runs in the middle of a game?
Red Sox were probably laughing at him. They laugh at us anyway, but we continue to give them things to laugh about. Just like Francona and Papi were having a good time with the ’stealing signs’ thing, Papi and Francona high-fived if you saw the YES shot and were chuckling as Bogar was explaining himself.
Pete – i tried posting a very witty comment about you calling Guy Ritchie a ‘director’ in an earlier post, but it was blocked.
Anyway, don’t know how well you guys know him over there, but he’s awful. As embarrassing a Brit export as hooligans and that clown Beckham.
RayVT-All right.
I am a Girardi guy, but I really wanted them to get Sparky as manager.
E-gawa: He allowed no more runs. And anyway, you need to think if he had a good first, and there’s no gurantee he would have had kept averaging six pitchers per AB. You gotta give him the chance to be more efficient.
And So’s are a sign of dominance, a way to show you’re not even letting the hitters touch the ball. Anyway, when you have fly ball outs and groundouts things like sac flys and erors occur, which strikeouts prevent.
Red Sox just go out there and win
We go out there and lose, then take solace in the fact that our starter gave up 4 runs in 5.2 innings.
So the Joba Criticism Du Jour is that he didn’t enter the rotation as a fully-formed wily veteran?
Highland-He had a runner in scoring position, the Yanks were down by one, and he got a huge strikeout.
Nothing wrong there.
“Joe Monte
May 6th, 2009 at 5:15 pm
Jeter has absolutely no range to his left and that leads to additional runs over the course of the season. I believe Jeter can definitely handle playing LF for the Yankees next season and beyond
”
you usually want more power out of the corner outfielders, not a singles hitter. This is going to be a big problem in a year or two, I just hope he retires…you can’t keep paying for 1998 more than 10 years later
thanks Nick…
I’m staying with some post-doc friends at Cal for the rest of the week. I’m here once or twice a year and Berkeley never gets boring. The weather is actually not too bad. I’ll make my way to San Fran once or twice.
They’re dragging me to Super Diamond this weekend…
I really think some of you need a new hobby.
That start last night was the 17th start of his CAREER. That’s it.
Do any of you understand that he is still learning his craft?
If you are going to criticize the performance because he lost the game, you don’t know anything about baseball.
They lost because they didn’t hit with RISP and their bullpen imploded again.
The kid had a bad first inning. It happens to a lot of pitchers.
After that, he DOMINATED the best team in the American League.
If that’s not good enough for you, and you can’t see the potential of just how good this kid can be, you really need to learn about baseball because you are embarrassing yourselves with some of the comments here today.
Tune into YES for 1,000,001 ways to sugar coat anything Yankee related
Injuries
A-Fraud will be back soon
is a slow starter
It’s only April
It’s only May
Orestas-No, we take solace in the fatc that our first year starter settled down brilliantly and dominated the rest of the game, hopefully boding good things to come.
This use to be a fun place to talk baseball. However, the hyper-critical, no knowledge fan is doing a good job at keeping people away.
Jeter is playing very passable SS this season.
We’ll cross that bridge when we come to it.
OK…
So the Yanks are 3 games behind Boston in the loss column, with 136 to play.
That includes Bosox 11 game winning streak.
Do you think the yanks will play better than this? I do.
So what’s with the desperation on May 6th???
If they fire Girardi, they need a firey guy to be the manager like Gary Carter or Paul O’Neil.
A guy who can fire the team and really the troops
Nick,
Yes, and he pumps his fist. A mortal sin in the world of Mike Francesa and his flock.
In fact, the fist pump is really the thing that ticks people off.
How DARE he show emotion. That must make him a thug or a gangsta to be so bold as to be pumped up as he was mowing down hitters.
Bottom line – Joba gave up 4 ERs in 5.2 innings. Took 83 pitches to record 14 outs.
That is not good. Who cares about the strikeouts? Earned runs > strikeouts.
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Maybe you should focus more on his overall performance than the box score.
Joba took a punch in the 1st inning and he came back as strong as any youngster could.
The Red Sox, a pretty good hitting ball club, had no chance after the 1st inning. Joba also didn’t blow everyone away by throwing 100 MPH.
He did it by getting all four of his pitches over the plate and making them look silly.
I can guarantee you that the fans, coaches, players, and front office saw a lot more last night than a guy who gave up 4 ER in 5.2 IP.
It’s a sign of things to come and how special Joba can be. It only reinforced the argument why he needs to stay in the rotation.
Highland: Really? The fist pump? That’s your topic of conversation??
When did he do it? Did he do it after the 1st when he actually gave up the runs? NO.
How about he was, oh I don’t know, excited to keep his team in the game? Said team having let him down continually over the course of the game with the missed RISP opportunities?
Now MY head is starting to bleed.
Note to self: stop responding to the trolls.
I’m going to keep repeating it, Sparky Lyle is a tough guy…
But I’d keep Girardi.
“This use to be a fun place to talk baseball. However, the hyper-critical, no knowledge fan is doing a good job at keeping people away.”
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Coach,
that’s been a frustration of mine as well.
Pete’s finally starting to ban trolls, which is great, but the blog still goes down the toilet with those types of “fans”.
The Other Phil-I’m trying really hard to ignore Yaz.
Teixeiramvp (JobaCyYoung)
May 6th, 2009 at 4:55 pm
Hey guys, great article from River Ave Blues:
http://riveraveblues.com/2009/.....ent-368873
What a terrific idea! They are proposing saving Gate 2 of the old Stadium and making it the entry way to the newly created park space.Everyone should check it out just to see out the picture of the proposed entrance. How cool is THAT?
Joba’s value is still in the pen
What’s the point if he goes 6 and strikes out 18 and the bullpen blows it?
The bullpen is terrible and there is no solution in sight.
gayle
May 6th, 2009 at 5:13 pm
Ken Davidoff is reporting there has been a setback for Bruney via twitter no more info than that @kendavidoff
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all I heard was that Bruney was throwing from about 75 feet in the outfield and felt a something, so the shut him down until it was checked out. That was yesterday.
yaz –
Are you older than 20? I’d be surprised.
Beckett, Pedro, Timlin have been drilling Yankees since you were in diapers.
Joba hit Bay in the back.
Relax with the interleague revenge stuff. Do your homework.
Teix: Yeah, I have done so as well. I think Highland and Orestas belong in the troll camp as well.
Doug,
Joba’s value is a starter. If you think his value to the Yankees is in the pen, then you need to trade him, becuase he will bring in much more value through trade, than he will ever give as a set up man.
29 other teams in baseball would love to have his talent, and would utilize it as a starter. Do you not realize that he is the best starter on this team?
Reggie Miller
bmass
yaz
what do these “posters” have in common?
SJ,
How many times have we heard Francesa talk about the Yanks “de-clawing” Joba by using him the rotation?
He’s even asked Girardi about it several times. He argued many times that Joba was not the same pitcher and didn’t have the same “presence” and body language that he had when he was pitching out of the pen.
Sounds like Francesa doesn’t have any idea what he wants outside of limiting this kid’s ceiling to one inning.
“the fact is most of the players from scranton are incomplete players and have to learn on the job at the mlb level. almost all the young players could use as much time there as they can get.”
There are things you can’t learn at AAA that you have to learn to be a complete player in the majors.
Unless you think Matt LaPorta was used to seeing Justin Verlander (his first ever opposing pitcher in the majors) fastballs in AAA? LaPorta’s a stud prospect, and he was SCHOOLED by Verlander.
He ain’t going to learn how to hit 99 with control in AAA.
hey pete post the rays lineup u fat SOB
Coach,
Best way to handle it is, once the idiots hit the blog, which is usually around gametime, that’s when its time to say goodbye.
I don’t post in the game threads from about through the rest of the night for that reason.
Too many no nothing fans, psychos and impersonators.
I miss Nick’s funny commentary but, I catch up with it in the morning.
Aside from that, the game threads de-generate quickly once the 12 year olds come on board.
Its actually worse when school gets out. That’s when its really out of control.
In the end though, its the best Yankee Blog going.
Just gotta know when to come in and play and when its time to go home. lol
Boston Dave: I’m sure your buddies can give you all the advice you need, but I highly recommend a visit to Amoeba Records if you haven’t ever been – you seem to be a music fan. The original is on Telegragh Avenue a few blocks from campus, but the one in the city (Haight St. near Stanyan) is bigger and better.
I also recommend La Taqueria on Mission St. & 25th for a great burritos/tacos/quesadillas. People can get pretty contentious about their favorite taquerias around here, and that one is somewhat controversial (no rice in the burritos, which I appluad but some deplore), but I stand by it.
Maybe this team can learn how to get a clutch hit or two once in a while and maybe the bullpen can figure out how to get outs without giving up runs
Hmmm…
I have nothing to post, I agree with too many people.
Darn.
“Joba’s value is still in the pen
What’s the point if he goes 6 and strikes out 18 and the bullpen blows it?
The bullpen is terrible and there is no solution in sight.”
Mariano Rivera, as a reliever, is MUCH better than Joba, as a reliever.
What use has Rivera been in the past week?
Sigh…Trolls are impersonating me.
I’ll take it as a compliment.
But I will say this: I’m gone, rest of the night. Any other posts are not me.
Bob(The Original)
May 6th, 2009 at 5:02 pm
RayVT, how would Francona, Piniella, Madden have overcome the losses of A-Rod, Wang, Nady, and Posada? Not to mention the lack of a legit CFer. Or the fact there is no bench and no positional depth in the minors?
And talk to me about Torre when the Dodgers are in a divsion that is even 25% as competitive as the AL East.
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LOL!
Francona lost Man Ram, Lowell, Schilling, Lugo, and an assortment of others last year includining Dice-K, Pappelbon & Ellsbury.
Madden at TB lost BJ Upton (and he played most of year with a shoulder injury), Percival, Langoria, Crawford, Kazmir, and others for significant time as well. They won the division! LOL!
“In the end though, its the best Yankee Blog going.”
There’s another one I’ve been frequenting during games lately – much better – riveraveblues.
Our lead cheerleader, Michael Kay, needs to realize that 4 ER in 5 2/3 innings isn’t exactly a great start. It’s not even a “quality start.” I don’t care if you get 17 K’s in that time. An out is an out. It was fun watching all the strikeouts but Joba’s performance to me proves his approach simply doesn’t translate when starting. Too many pitches, can’t pitch to contact at 90 MPH without getting knocked around.
Listening to the game last night on YES made me think we were up 5 runs…then came the bottom of the 6th…and reality set it, we were still losing! MIchael Kay is an embarrassment.
Can’t believe there was a “We Want Torre” chant yesterday at the game (according to Kay)
Yankees fans always find a way to hit new lows….
“Tune into YES for 1,000,001 ways to sugar coat anything Yankee related
Injuries
A-Fraud will be back soon
is a slow starter
It’s only April
It’s only May”
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“Tune into NESN and ESPN for 1,000,001 ways to think it’s OK to:
pay julio lugo $9mm to sit on the bench
brag excessively about “homegrown talent” when only 3 of your starting position players are
overpay by $25mm for the rights to sign dice-k. why did you outbid yourselves?
lambast the yanks for pavano. I forgot, theo’s matt clement choice (of equal contract amount) was a much better value
“Our lead cheerleader, Michael Kay, needs to realize that 4 ER in 5 2/3 innings isn’t exactly a great start. It’s not even a “quality start.” I don’t care if you get 17 K’s in that time. An out is an out. It was fun watching all the strikeouts but Joba’s performance to me proves his approach simply doesn’t translate when starting. Too many pitches, can’t pitch to contact at 90 MPH without getting knocked around.
Listening to the game last night on YES made me think we were up 5 runs…then came the bottom of the 6th…and reality set it, we were still losing! MIchael Kay is an embarrassment.”
It was a ‘great start’ in that it shows what Joba can do as he develops.
Unless you think Johan Santana, Zack Greinke, Chad Billingsley, etc., just hatched as aces.
We’re going to witness, over the next few years, the development of one of the best 5 pitchers in baseball.
Get used to it, B-Jobbers. Get used to it.
yea the 23 yr old Joba fist pumping what an outrage..people have to much time on there hand.
on Tomko I have no problem giving him a try as long as it is a short leash if he fails…….
I am suprisd the yanks have not added a bat today, I guess the yare waiting to friday to send a pitcher out when arod comes back..
Joba has the lowest ERA of the Yankee starters so far… again the Yanks have th eworst ERA ytd. in baseball, that is unacceptable they have way to much talent for this………….
Ah, the impersonator is back and taking tex’s name now.
This has been an all day thing.
Teixeiramvp (JobaCyYoung) see ya
Teix: See ya. I’m out after this post, too.
Edwards: Don’t lump a few idiot yokels in with the rest of the fan base. The morons that would actually chant that at a game aren’t fans. They’re also the ones that boo Teix and ARod.
Nick,
I go to Amoeba every time I’m here. I’ve even gotten stuff from them off of ebay when I’m not. Great place.
I’ll check out the taco place (though I do like rice in the burritos). For some reason, and I’m not complaining, my friends always take me for pizza.
when am I gonna get some Chez Panisse, dammit??
Someone Else:
I enjoy that RAB uses spillover threads and is more or less generally devoid of ledge jumpers.
And I get a chance my mouth.
mostly young foolish uninformed bloggers do not realize 23 yr old starters do not go 9 innings and 140 pitches when the yare young……….
unless you want a kerry wood or pryor or many other studs who fizzled out situation….. what’s your choice????????
Someone Else,
I haven’t tried RAB for game threads.
I don’t do this one any longer past this time because the trolls, impersonators and psychos get to be too much.
Is the RAB game thread more intelligible when the Yankees fall behind?
the cornfield awaits
the RAB site has a much more informed clientele and many less ledge jumpers.
this site is the most knee jerk reaction spoiled fan I have seen…
Yanks Miss Gil Patterson thats nice now explain why the yanks are 0-5 with the sox
Guiseppe,
Exactly.
I posted earlier that I talked to 4 people in the game today about other stuff I’m involved in.
A GM, 2 scouting directors and a scout and the subject of Joba came up.
Every one of them said, “NOW I see why they want to keep him in the rotation”.
They were all “Joba to the bullpen” people before last night.
That’s how impressive he was.
If he can impress baseball people, then I think the folks like Francesa will just have to deal with the fact that he isn’t leaving the rotation if he remains healthy.
“Can’t believe there was a “We Want Torre” chant yesterday at the game (according to Kay)”
The team would be in the same position it’s in if Torre was here. And if they think the Dodgers are doing so well because of Torre, they are crazy. BAL could win the NL West by 10 games. It’s a weak division currently being dominated by the strongest of the weak teams. Put the Dodgers in the AL East and they’d be battling BAL for last place.
Speaking of tacos and burritos, it may be time for Girardi to flip over the post game spread after a tough loss, especially before CC can get to it. That old tactic used to work for Billy, and really upset Spreadman himself, Clyde King. Then Billy would go out drinking with Art Fowler.
SJ: Doubt it makes any difference, but I’m at RAB during the games now.
I’ve learned a ton over there, and we generally run out ledge jumpers. Mike, Ben and Joe do an amazing job. Spillover threads make it much more manageable on a computer like mine which is dying.
And, like I said, I get a chance to run my mouth =D
conn23
May 6th, 2009 at 4:12 pm
Melancon was not rushed. What more did he have to accomplish at Scranton?
His velocity was there, his control was impeccable in the minors. He challenged hitters and his makeup is supposedly off the charts. He was also extremely efficient
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Right, and part of the reason for that efficiency, aside from his command, was that the hitters couldn’t extend ABs against him. He was so efficient, that people thought he was being groomed as a long man, which you might wonder, because he has 3 plus pitches.
But they were just trying to help him build innings. He’s right where he belongs. Give him the ball.
yaz – I was right. You’re a teenager.
Yanks are 0-5 against the sox because they won 0 games and lost 5 games to the sox this season so far.
“0-5″ is self explanatory enough.
How old were you when the Yanks took 5 straight in Fenway and your GM responded with excuses?
No excuses from NY. Not one. We’ll leave that to Boston.
“That’s how impressive he was.”
Exactly. Joba’s going to be inconsistent. He’s going to have bad outings. Just like Kershaw – http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/p.....09/1221725
Kershaw went 7 innings, 1 solo HR, 1 BB, 13 Ks, then followed that up with two stinkers, 6 ER in 4.1 IP and 9 ER in 4.2 IP, then followed that up by going toe to toe with Jake Peavy, 7 IP, 4 H, 2 BB, 3 K, 0 ER.
Young pitchers take time, and patience. Joba has the ability to be one of the absolute best in the game.
Someone Else-
I agree that most star pitchers don’t hatch from eggs.
However, I wouldn’t mind a shred of objectivity when it comes to discussing the game that is being played. The fact is it was a mediocre start (even for Joba as his career ERA as a starter is in the mid 2’s), and we were losing the game. We trailed for 9 innings yet you’d never know from the broadcast.
I’m a Yankees fan first, and a Joba fan second.
Torre can run rings around Girardi as a manager, and btw, the Dodgers can play.
stuart
May 6th, 2009 at 5:36 pm
the RAB site has a much more informed clientele and many less ledge jumpers.
this site is the most knee jerk reaction spoiled fan I have seen…
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Agreed. This place, with some exceptions who make it worthwhile, is Soap Box City.
i need some meth before we lose again 2night quick someone find joba’s mom
She’s hangin’ with Pedroia’s brother.
Rebecca,
I’ll have to give it a try, thanks.
Boston Dave-
This place is good for NY Pizza in Berkeley: http://gioiapizzeria.com/
The owner is from Brooklyn & a Yankee fan.
and Varitek’s ex-wife.
Bob
Francona had the worst hiting Catcher in Baseball last year in Varitek who was probably hurt as well but still playing. If this malaise continues with the Yankees, injuries or not, Cash Money will be bringing in more players and a new Manager. Cash won’t ride a dead horse. He already had to fire some of Joe G’s buds just to get him to change some.
There isn’t a team in baseball that lost as much as Toronto did this year and where are they? LOL! Sure they haven’t played the Ynakees yet or Boston or Tampa. LOL! I am sure they wish they had already. Toronto lost 3/5 of their rotation twice. They lost their closer too. They lst their Catcher as well. They win because they believe they can win and Cito brings out their talent. It is a mindset. It is a communication thing. It is sincerely lacking in Joe G!
Bob, I hope that everything I have said turns out wrong & the Yankees win the World Series based on terrific coaching by Joe G!! I am a Yankee fan! Always have been! Thru some horrible coaches mind you!! And players too!!! LOL!
BTW, I like Cash Money! He is doing his best. He takes chances. Some work some don’t. He doesn’t manage acting scared. He doesn’t slam his office door and sulk. He steps up to the plate and says what/when/why/how and takes his medicine and keeps going.
Little things sometimes indicate big problems. Like when Posada was pulled w/o talking to him. Melky being sent to minors and not told anyhting by Joe G. Cano struggling and Joe G is quiet. Wang having 3 horrible starts and none of the 3 had a longman waiting. The last start it was what 8-0 before they even went to the mound to talk to Wang. 13 pitchers and no pinch hitters when you have murdered row coming up. Only carrying 2 catchers when Posada was injured, and hobbling. Then playing him in the cold/rain as a DH. Girardi is a sky is falling Manager. It gets old fast.
What is this RAB place you mention sj44?
Thank you.
“E-gawa: He allowed no more runs. And anyway, you need to think if he had a good first, and there’s no gurantee he would have had kept averaging six pitchers per AB. You gotta give him the chance to be more efficient.
And So’s are a sign of dominance, a way to show you’re not even letting the hitters touch the ball. Anyway, when you have fly ball outs and groundouts things like sac flys and erors occur, which strikeouts prevent.”
I wasn’t counting the first in the 6 pitches per AB average. Not counting the first, he threw 83 pitches in 4.2 innings. That’s not acceptable. Sorry.
Lugo is an absolute disaster. If there’s a way to commit an error in a key situation, or kill a rally at the plate, he’ll get it done. He cost Schilling a perfect game a couple years back; his error made Curt face the 28th batter, who got a hit. He stinks.
Nova is off to a bad start for Trenton, 1.2 innings, 4 hits, 3 runs, 2 earned, 2 walks, 2 strikeout, 3 steals on him.
Actually, that’s 2 innings complete
“I’m a Yankees fan first, and a Joba fan second.”
AMEN!
RAB River Ave. Blue – link on the rt of this pg.
Boston Dave: I haven’t tried the place Buddy just mentioned, but Zachary’s is great for deep dish, I’m guessing that’s where your buddies are taking you.
As for the rice-in-burritos question, I don’t mind it so much, but I don’t need it either. The burritos at La Taqueria (I get mine with Carne Asada and everything, which means cheese, avacado, and hot sauce) are pretty dense. It’s worth a try.
Truth be told, when I go there these days I’m more likely to get a couple tacos (carne asada, chicken, sometimes carnitas) than a burrito at all.
YES is trying to turn Joba into a folk hero
Nick – they do fish tacos ?
love them
I’d have to vote against rice in a burrito.
I find it amusing that Wally Matthews, the epitome of mediocrity and mean spiritedness, accuses the Yankees of mediocrity.
He is overwrought and vain, like most NYC columnists, and has nothing to offer. None of them do any kind of thoughtful analysis – they word sling and prey on the lowest common denominator fan and his emotions.
I had the misfortune of listening to Kay interview Joel Sherman yesterday driving over the GWB. It’s the same old cliched bleakness on why the Yankees will fail, harping on salaries and Girardi not being the right guy.
At the very end, he threw in this disclaimer: “I realize it’s early yet and that they could turn this whole thing around. I am aware of that.”
Awfully big of you, Joel. So your tirade about the Yankees’ terminal issues might not be terminal, after all? Get a clue. Any smart fan is way ahead of these guys, who make their living opening their big fat mouths.
E-gawa writes: “blah blah… that’s not acceptable. Sorry.”
You’re under no obligation to accept it, but do you have a solution to Joba developing as a starter other than letting Joba develop as a starter? There have been a lot of “Joba needs to…” statements today. Joba needs to learn how to be an effective starter. Is there a better way to do that than starting?
“I had the misfortune of listening to Kay interview Joel Sherman yesterday driving over the GWB. It’s the same old cliched bleakness on why the Yankees will fail, harping on salaries and Girardi not being the right guy.”
How did you fight the urge to jump?
Pete: some of us have been trying to answer that for a while.
As I read through tonight’s lineup, I was struck by one question:
How could ANYBODY be expected to win that garbage???
A.J. Burnett, Derek Jeter, Johnny Damon, Mark Teixeira, Hideki Matsui, Robinson Cano, Nick Swisher????
If only we had all the studs Seattle, K.C., Toronto and Texas are throwing out on the field.
Poor Joe Girardi and his short stick.
Uncle Ellsworth: no fish tacos. Fish tacos can be had some places around here, I think, but you’re better off heading south for that. LA. San Diego. Mexico.
kay just made a good point. why doesn’t tampa turn price into the closer they have a need? the reason is simple Price has a chance to be a dominating starter who are more valuable because they can literally win a game by themselves.
joba lost that is true, but soemtimes you have to look at the longterm.. mark feinsands blog also has some interesting stats on the yanks hitters with RISP, melky and cano still have some work to do, check it out……..
Top of the third, Vazquez hits a 3 run homer to tie the game at 3.
Some of you might be interested in this. I was
http://sports.espn.go.com/espnmag/story?id=4145564
Thanks for updates GB7. I look forward to you keeping me informed, as I’m sure others do.
When Man Ram played for the RSox, I was still a fan of his because of what he did as a player. Tremendous respect for his talent and results. I didn’t root for him LOL! And it certainly didn’t hurt him either especially against the Yankees.
So the Yankees don’t want to bring Man Ram in because it would disturb chemistry. LOL! What a joke. Can you imagine Manny facing RSox 19 times during the regular season? Or if he had signed with Toronto and killed the Yanks & RSox? He changes the game. He takes special care to manage. Can you even imagine Joe G & Man Ram on this team at the same time!! That is why he wasn’t signed. If Man Ram had been a Yankee those seats behind home wouldn’t be empty. ARod will fill some as well. I went to Tampa during Spring training and the crowds were sparse until the World Games ended. Not everybody wants to cringe watching this show until the bugs get worked out. It could get ugly. Why do you think SJ is so upset. He is usually leading the cheers with touches of reality to offset it and he is always informative.
The Yankees suck on fundamentals. Last year Joe G’s buddy coaching 3B cost them the playoffs IMO. This year playing Tex hurt, Posada hurt, Marte hurt, Wang hurt, Matsui hurt and others will cost. Manager decisions played a role in all of these.
stuart
May 6th, 2009 at 6:00 pm
kay just made a good point. why doesn’t tampa turn price into the closer they have a need? the reason is simple Price has a chance to be a dominating starter who are more valuable because they can literally win a game by themselves.
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In an ESPN Radio Interview, Price all but came out and said that closing was next to anathema to him.
You’re quite welcome, Bodh.
Yeah Nick I think its a baja thing.
if the yanks do not subtract one arm from the team on friday when arod comes back I will be pissed. they need some hitting depth espcecially with Molina in the lineup or cerevelli…
the bruney situation is 2 more weeks who knows if that is accurate but not the best news possible…
“The Rays were all talking about how strange and quiet it seems.”
What the heck do they know about anything? They play in a stadium that hands out cowbells to its fans.
Say what you want to about George, but atleast he gave you the feeling that he cared about you as a fan. His children only care about money.
Vermilion
May 6th, 2009 at 6:01 pm
Some of you might be interested in this. I was
http://sports.espn.go.com/espnmag/story?id=4145564
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Good read, thanks. There’s a great video floating around on the kid somewhere.
“The Rays were all talking about how strange and quiet it seems. I don’t know what the Yankees can do because of the concrete moat they built around those seats. It’s not like they can let regular people just walk down.”
The Yankees have ruined their home field advantage. Opposing teams are going to feel right at home here.
“What the heck do they know about anything? They play in a stadium that hands out cowbells to its fans.”
They play here, what, 18 or 19 times a year? The fans notice the difference, you think the players don’t as well?
“I don’t know what the Yankees can do because of the concrete moat they built around those seats. It’s not like they can let regular people just walk down.”
You can get people in there. It’s not like there’s a special entrance. The moat itself is sort of cosmetic. You just need permission.
It’s like the first class curtain. Rip it down and it’s all the same plane. It’s just a nicer seat.
Ray VT girardi kill your dog??????
after the game you can often have issues with a managers moves but Girardi is not incompetent.. And you really think he intentionally is playing guys who are hurt? Really from a economic standpoint the Yanks would fire him on the spot, because he would potentially be damaging there expensive assets so I think you need to calm down on the hate….
I wish everyone in the lineup would stop trying to hit a 3 run home run to either tie a game or win a game when a single or double will do.
I hate to say it, but maybe it’s time for the Yankees to think about pumping artificial crowd noise into the stadium.
They need to do something to make it louder
Yankees ‘N More
Amen!! I don’t care how much $$ the Yankees spend. It isn’t mine. ManRam as a DH & some time in LF sure sounded delightful. You would have had a PH in Matsui too. 11 pitchers is all you need with the kind of depth and quantity in AAA to shuttle as needed. Joe T did that, so I guess Joe G has to do it his way with 13 & no sticks.
yea again a disappointing crowd tonight only 45,000 or so. man those Yankee fans stink. Didn’t you know 35,000 or 17,000 at other stadiums are more then 47K at yankee stadium..
again people have to much time on there hand to just bitch and whine……
I think we get that Pete doesn’t like the new stadium.
Yes, Girardi told these relievers not to throw strikes and to give up runs everytime they take the mound.
He also told the hitters to turn into pumpkins with runners on base.
Hey, he also injured A-Rod, Bruney, Nady, Posada, Wang on purpose!
The Rays have yet to play a game at new YS. How the heck would they know how “quiet” it is?
Anyone with knowledge of new ballparks would know that this “moat” thing at new YS is nothing new. ALL the new parks have the same thing. This is not a Yankee thing. It’s not the Yankees trying to separate the rich folks from the poor like it’s being portrayed.
It’s the new wave of architecture for parks.
I would expect the stadium to be quiet 2 hours before gametime
RayVT…
I believe my sarcasm might have been lost on you…
My point was and is, even with the players they’re missing, Joe Girardi still has a lot more talent to work with then most teams, including several with better records than his.
Thanks, WAlly for your opinion- moving on. I’m glad he thinks the season is over after 26 games. The guy is a real weasel – he’s right up there with Lupica and Madden
The stadium was rocking when Joba was striking out all those guys, then proceeded to turn into a church, before the “We want Torre” chants started late in the game.
But the lack of buzz overall is very telling. All these opponents, from the Indians to the As to the Red Sox and now Tampa are saying the same thing. YS is no longer the loud, crazy, intimidating atmosphere it was.
Why shouldn’t Pete like the new stadium? He gets to take advantage of all these new amenities too and the press box is 10x better than the old one which makes his job easier.
He is just calling it as he sees it. The crowd/atmosphere has sucked in every game this year. If they won’t rise up for the Red Sox, when will they?
Yes, Joba was dominant. Did you forget the four runs he gave up in the first inning, SJ44?
It’s always overkill. You can’t just watch and root for a guy. He has to be dominant…even though he didn’t pitch out of the sixth inning!
When he comes out of the game with a lead, then you can anoint all you want — since that’s what you seem to love most. Not the winning. Just the strikeouts.
Are you even a Yankee fan?
I remember reading quotes in the Cleveland Plain Dealer where the Indians players were shocked how quiet it was, especially for opening day.
“They play here, what, 18 or 19 times a year? The fans notice the difference, you think the players don’t as well?”
No, half that. And the number of games they’ve played in NY so far this year is 0.
No doubt there are differences in the new stadium, but the Rays players can shove it.
Crowd was actually pretty loud last night and in unison emotionally with Joba. Of course, they did boo him after the first inning, but that’s to be expected of that primarily mid-90s
group.
Nova 3.0 innings, 4 hits, 3 runs, 3 earned runs, 3 walks, 2 strikeouts, 0 HRA, 1 WP, 3.32 ERA
Buddy,
thanks for the tip on the pizza place.
I have been to Zachary’s (great deep dish) and I like the Cheeseboard (I think thats what its called). I can’t think of the others but there’s no shortage of food in this area.
Nick, I’m coming from San Diego and the tacos were darn good there. If I can find anything close to those, I’ll be happy. I usually have to settle for Chipotle, which is good enough, once I get back to the east coast.
Don,
Next time if Joba lasts 3.1 innings, give up 6 runs, but strikes out 9… people will say it was a good start because he struck out 9.
Runs in the 1st innings are just as important as runs in any other inning. If that was Burnett who had that start, he would have been called gutless and mediocre and said he was a waste of money etc.
But such is the life of Joba-Mania, he can do no wrong.
When he comes out of the game with a lead, then you can anoint all you want—since that’s what you seem to love most. Not the winning. Just the strikeouts.
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If Joba knocking on the door of greatness last night was lost on you, you need to find a new sport to follow.
Maybe the Rays are a little envious/jealous of the new stadium??
For all the criticism (including Maddon) they’ve been dishing out already, it’s not unlikely.
reminds me a tiny bit of the house Jack Black builds in the Ben Stiller movie “Envy”…
I’m not saying Brian Cashman is a bad G.M., I’m just saying that if he was in charge of the Allied troops we’d all be speaking German right now.
stuart
May 6th, 2009 at 6:08 pm
Ray VT girardi kill your dog??????
LOL! Sorry I don’t have a dog, but maybe that is why!! LOL!
I look at the talent on this team and they look lost. I’m talking about the talent remaining. Perhaps it is only me who thinks that everything seems to be life and death now with Joe G everyday. It is May!
I use to play on a travelling Softball team after college baseball. We had a 20 man team. Our coach chose to start all 10 backups one game against a very good team in a tournament winners bracket. Guess what we won & we were rested for the next game. Baseball is a marathon not a sprint. So RSox took 3 straight early then lost 3/4 to Tampa. No problem. It isn’t life and death. Tex’s wrist is killing him, but he is in everyday. Last year Jeter was hurt but played everyday. Posada was hurt this year and Joe G found a way to play him in some way still everyday. Bruney was pitching almost everyday the 1st 2 weeks and where is he now?
It is frustrating to see players villified because they are put in situations where they are not likely to succeeed. Marte pitching to RH batters. Posada hopping on 1 leg to 1st. No long man so all your bullpen chips in and picthes 3 innings in a game. These guys are being mishandled.
Yankees ‘N More
Sorry I saw what you said & I really enjoyed it!!! My rantings unfortunately from Joe G peeing in my Wheaties caused me to reflect a different tone! I thoroughly agree with you!!!
No doubt about the Mexican food getting better & better the closer you get to Mexico.
The best Mexican I have ever had in the US was at a hole in the wall taqueria near Petco.
Could somebody point me towards BB’s allowed by starting pitching, per team.
Maybe I’m wrong, but I think we have to be top 5, and that’s not from watching other teams, our SP can’t find the zone.
“Knocking on the door of greatness!”
Wow. That is hardy stuff. Your biggest thought after the Yankees lose five in a row to the Red Sox is, whoa Joba is such a great pitcher?!?!?!
He lost two games to our hated rivals, and you’re gushing, “PHENOM!”
I root for Mr. Chamberlain, I’m not the least bit down on him. Losers take positives from losses. Winners find a way to get better.
Joe can’t handle this job. fire him and make tony pena the manager. PLEASE
I can’t say how the tacos at La Taqueria relate to the ones you had in San Diego, just that I love them. And their logo is here:
http://locallemons.typepad.com.....28a4-800wi
Can’t beat that, can you?
I thought this great chemistry we had in Spring Training would eliminate any losing streaks and chaos like this?
I thought this great chemistry we had in Spring Training would eliminate any losing streaks and chaos like this?
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No, having 5 viable starters was supposed to hose down any losing streaks.
They better win tonight and better win by atleast 5 runs
Orestas
May 6th, 2009 at 6:19 pm
Don,
Next time if Joba lasts 3.1 innings, give up 6 runs, but strikes out 9… people will say it was a good start because he struck out 9.
Runs in the 1st innings are just as important as runs in any other inning. If that was Burnett who had that start, he would have been called gutless and mediocre and said he was a waste of money etc.
But such is the life of Joba-Mania, he can do no wrong.
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Boston Globe on Chamberlain performance:
“His was one of those striking performances we’ve seen a few times against the Red Sox this season. Like Carl Crawford stealing six bases, Matt Garza throwing a one-hitter for 7 2/3 innings, or Cliff Lee hurling eight shutout innings. This could have been even better.”
http://www.prosportsdaily.com/.....33317.html
Ch
Here’s what A-Rod told reporters in Florida:
“The slide was good. No problems. I feel good,” he said.
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I hope A-Rod continues to do interviews like this when he returns.
The less he talks, the better off he’ll be.
Just shut up and play ball.
RAYVT touche.. Marte should be more then a lefty specialist so that is a bad example.. Marte has the stuff to get both lefties and righties out and he has during his career.. I also am confused about some pen moves but all in all Girardi has not been a terrible mamanger.
They absolutely still ahve tons of talent even with the injuries and should be winning I agree 100% and that is on cano, tex, cc, aj, and the rest of the gang to play smarter and better..
I was a teenager during the 77 bronx is burning year, the sux with a incredible lineup looked unbeatab le ealry in the season, you know the rest..
My issue is all with the pitching regardless of how they are hitting with RISP. this starting rotation should be top 5 in baseball not 29th… if the starting pitching improves it will help the pen a ton… but they need to weed out the guys who are not getting it done in the pen sooner versus later…
Gates,
It was silly that people suggested that AJ taking people fishing and CC taking people to NBA games would make the team play better.
What happens in the stress-free atmosphere of Tampa/Spring training never carries over into the NY pressure cooker. Winning breeds chemistry. The team chemistry looks lousy now because they are a losing. Couple wins against Tampa this week and the chemistry will be great again. That’s the way it ALWAYS works regardless of what kind of players you have on your team.
Ever consider Joe is playing coy with Alex’s return to avoid some of the media?
Nick,
I’ll shoot for lunch tomorrow. After being forced to go to Yoga class tonight (I actually had to promise to go in exchange for staying here), I’m going to need a good meal tomorrow.
Jennifer:
Avoid some of the media how? Same number of people cover the games regardless.
ugh, Yoga is at 5:45 PST during the Yanks and Magic/Celts game.
how to get out of this….
Pete,
You don’t think there will be heightened interest for A-Rods first day back on the team (with the “book questions”) ?
Keep it up Alex – he’s doing exactly what he should be doing with the media.
Boston Dave-
You’ll love the yoga class, ne maste!
Something I find strange is this talk about Joba to the pen or he didn’t have a quality start is wierd.
Joba like most great starting pitchers gets stronger as the game goes on. It doesn’t matter how much they warm up the results are usually if you don’t get to them early. Carlton, Gibson, Koufax, Ford, Schilling, Beckett & others you have to get early before they hit their groove. It is very common and a baseball cliche.
Nick’s Crispy Tacos has incredible fish tacos in San Francisco. Gotta go during the day as it turns into a pseudo night club in the evening.
Alex will sneak into Baltimore just like Lincoln did 148 years ago-on a train wearing a cape.
A-Rod is going to be back in Baltimore anyway, just a question of Friday or Sat.
So ESPN will send Holtzman there, SI will send Heyman, etc. and the non-Yankee baseball writers like Wally Matthews, Madden, Davidoff, Sherman, Klappisch, Curry etc. will be there too. Mets are playing the Pirates at home, so none of them will be there.
Big 4th inning for Tenton with 6 runs on 5 hits. Vazquez is 2-3 homer and 4 RBI, Corona is 2-3 and 2 RBI, Curtis is 2-3 and Kevin asmith is 2-3
the stadium isnt loud cuz we havent been playing well..the other day when girardi got kicked out of the game, all of a sudden the stadium had life. if the yankees were giving reason for people to cheer then they would. hopefully they’ll do that tonight.
Correction: Big 4th inning for ***Trenton*** with 6 runs on 5 hits. Vazquez is 2-3 homer and 4 RBI, Corona is 2-3 and 2 RBI, Curtis is 2-3 and Kevin Smith is 2-3. 9-3 Trenton.
On the bad side, Nova opens the bottom of the 4th by walking the first two batters.
Has anyone seen Jason Whitlocks new piece on the author of the book?
What are the yanks plans for Jorge Vazquez? He’s not going to be in aa all year, right?
They need to get Mike Dunn a few more appearances in AA
then he can move to AAA and be up here to save the bullpen.
It’s been very quiet at CitiField too. No doubt the ticket prices and the type of fan that can only pay for them has something to do with it.
“Boston Dave-
You’ll love the yoga class, ne maste!”
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Sure. As long as I can pull a “George” (remember that Seinfeld episode… in bed with the girl, a portable tv, and a sandwich) and watch the game on a mini-tv, I’ll love it.
We’ve played some exciting games at home… both of our wins vs. Cleveland were games we took the lead in the 8th inning
We had that walkoff 14 inning game against Oakland
We rallied twice in the late innings to beat the Angels
Not like the crowd has had no reason to cheer, in the first handful of games, we’ve given them some exciting finishes.
Uncle E,
please send link… I have liked a few of Whitlock’s articles.
Just curious, Pete… is there anything good going on in Yankeeland? Give me something to hang my hat on.
Watch tampa throw first pitch strikes the whole night.
Boston Dave:
http://www.kansascity.com/spor.....75681.html
Boston Dave
I would but I don’t want to inflame the gamethread any more than it has been (BTW I did not bring the subject up)
I’m sure you can find it easily enough its worth it.
BTW There are 2 places at 48th and 10th in NYC that have authentic tacos – good stuff
Thanks Tom
Uncle Ellsworth (Jorge Vazquez is the answer!) May 6th, 2009 at 6:41 pm
Has anyone seen Jason Whitlocks new piece on the author of the book?
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Yup. Interesting stuff
I think we need to have a Whitlock vs Roberts steel cage match sometime in the future
thanks Tom
Tom in N.J.
May 6th, 2009 at 6:42 pm
What are the yanks plans for Jorge Vazquez? He’s not going to be in aa all year, right?
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Right now, there’s no place to play him in Scranton. He’s basically Miranda from the right side. It’s probably better that he sees a lot of fastballs in AA, as opposed to a bunch of breaking pitches from career minor league pitchers. The Mexican leagues are mainly breaking ball leagues. He hit a 94 MPH fastball for the homer and a slider for the single, tonight.
I could be way off base here but considering the standard answers that Girardi gives, the performance of the younger players, either the Yankees brass realizes that their talent level is that of a strong AA team and that is it or the message conveyed to the younger players is a strict pass/fail – most of which fail because they are not ready for the majors.
Either way, is says more about the organization and the direction they are heading than all of the excuses tied to injuries. When you think of the Yankees and what they stand for, it is a great demise of the organization that stings most rather than not being in or winning a WS. This organization has taken a turn for the worse, not with just fielding a team but how they treat you and I as middle class baseball fans. Yankee Pride is no longer a saying but just something someone can put on a t-shirt or bumper sticker.
S.A.
I might shell out $2000 to see that!
http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/s.....ity-issues
KC Star article is different than this one right?
Actually there is another article by Whitlock, bit different from the KC Star one
http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/s.....ity-issues
Ugh, sorry.
Next time I’ll let Uncle do the linking….
fantastic article
“I am not asserting a nationwide racial conspiracy against minority baseball players. I’m in no way stating that Roberts’ pursuit of Rodriguez is motivated by race. I’m asserting that the media’s unwillingness to publicly and aggressively challenge itself breeds unequal and unfair coverage.”
Uncle E-LOL Me too.
They could even set up the steel cage under the O’Neil banner. That will bring some much needed life to Yankee Stadium
“It’s ridiculous. It really is. What were they thinking?”
Pete, money is what they were thinking.
SA
Have been to the Stadium yet?
Do you know the secret of the O’Neill banner?
[Comment From TheChuckKnoblog]
Kim, could you name some of your favorite blogs on the web?
Love Peter Abraham’s at **Lohud** and Watchdog by Best and Feinsand at Daily News.
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wow, Kim Jones read this blog.
Haven’t had a chance to go yet Uncle E. Hopefully this summer!
There is a secret regarding the O’Neil banner? Oh do tell
I appreciate that Whitlock is willing to stand alone and speak out.
“By refusing to acknowledge her mistakes in the Duke case, she creates the impression that her agenda trumps the truth.”
“Losers take positives from losses. Winners find a way to get better.”
Maybe I’m missing something, but doesn’t taking positives from losses and finding ways to get better go hand in hand? Seems to me a “winner” will take the positives from a loss and build on that to get better.
I see your point that an L is an L, and I’m not sure I can speak for them, but I assume the points of those people taking a positive from Joba’s performance are reflecting on the long term implications. Maybe it’s hard to swallow one L in the 2009 season, but despite the loss, if Joba’s performance after the first inning speaks to the possibilities of his entire future as a Yankee; doesn’t seem like you’ll have to worry much about him being a “winner.”
Of course if I had to bet, I’d guess you want your cake now like much of the rest of the short sighted fan base, so the notion that there’s more to what transpired in that game than one loss of 162 games in 2009 is probably not an easy point for you to take.
That’s a nice t-shirt slogan you came up with though…
stuart
I remember. Ultimately, I am not worried about the starting pitchers. They will be much better soon. I am worried about the bullpen and some of the key everyday players. It is frustrating! LOL! Most people who play FBB know that middle relief pitchers win a lot of games in April and early May. LOL! Sorry! But that is because the starters are usually slow out of the box. CC usually is a slow starter. So is AJ. Pettite usually starts fast and has a slide somewhere later. Wang usually is Mr Consistent. So it took 3 horrible starts to see he was hurt. Lets see his FB was much less than years prior. His sinker was flat and up! Yeah no chance anyone who was monitoring him everyday would know he might be injured. (Maybe the coaches aren’t doing anything! LOL! NOT!) Maybe the info is funneled thru 1 Joe G! The Yankees have too good a lineup (even with injuries) and a pitching staff to be this subpar. I wonder what could be wrong.
The Rays were all talking about how strange and quiet it seems.
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Maybe what the Yankees really need are cowbells.
S.A.
If I did it wouldn’t be a secret.
Let’s just say when you go there and see what lies beneath you may laugh.
Enough with “The Caste System”. I can imagin the writeups if some players sign autographs and somebody gets missed. Especially if it isn’t a writer/fan favorite. If it was for the kids only, possibly a point could be made. The ones that complain the loudest are adults looing for something to sell on E-Bay.
I can ***imagine*** the writeups
TONIGHT IS GOING TO BE A WIN! WOOHOOO
If I did it wouldn’t be a secret.
Let’s just say when you go there and see what lies beneath you may laugh.
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I’ll take pictures
Let’s go AJ!
anyone know why wtsn is not streaming tonight?
i hope people are understanding that it’s darn tough to build a big time winning team…especially in ny. and alot of luck is involved. cherish the 96-01 run…but don’t expect it and deem everything else a failure. it took the sox 86 years to climb the mountain…
I’m looking for domination tonight AJ.
Hey! Didn’t someone say we had the worst bullpen in the league? I thought I had read that here. Well check this out. It isn’t! It’s 12th. (Okay it’s not last is it?)
Well I am checking in and haven’t had time to get a feel for the posts. I haven’t even gotten to read why Joba felt his first inning fell apart!
No need to respond to this but I still wanted to mention it. I was asked to reconsider resigning. I guess it makes me feel good that they tried to talk me out of it but since the situation that bugged me couldn’t be satisfactorily resolved, I didn’t buckle. They did come up with some different options, but none of them really worked for me. So May 22nd is my last day.
Here’s hoping that AJ has his mojo. GO YANKEES!
And now the rubber meets the road since I’ve been begging for an AJ/Molina combo…
wow
Wow pena just wow.
we are cursed!
Guess were going to lose
isnt he here for defense?
Remember when we thought Pena was great because of his glove?
And remember that stat about how well we play in games where we commit errors?
error by Pena. Yanks record when they make an error is pretty bad.
I hope people remember Pena’s fielding and Ransom’s offense before they decide to boo Arod.
Pena has been struggling mightily lately, yet Joe starts him again. Sweet. Pete has posted their record when they make an error. This kind of garbage can’t keep happening
pena looking flat footed. playing a little tight. he’ll be ok though. arod back in no time.
http://www.570wsyr.com/cc-comm.....l?world=st
free stream of game.
Off topic, but did anyone hear that Torre only has two beat writers covering the Dodgers now . . . that’s unbelievable.
He must be relaxed as can be out in LA.
Molina doesn’t have the magic behind the plate that he did last year. This is going to be an ugly, ugly game.
that was a freakin strike
MEanwhile that was strike 3…. UGH
Nova 4.2 innings, 5 hits, 5 runs, 5 earned runs, 6 walks, 2 strikeouts, 1 HRA, WP 1, 3.86 ERA. No win…too may pitches.
Dunn pitching.
Nova’s final line.
Trenton leads 9-5, top of the 6th.
Gameday has that last pitch a strike..
Penas fault.
Vazquez hits another 94 MPH fastball for a single. Now 3-4
Well I guess talking about the empty seats everyday will make it less embarrassing.
9 pitch inning turns into a 15+…no good
many extra pitches.
error is killing us already.
Stupid error is going to raise his pitch count.
“The ones that complain the loudest are adults looking for something to sell on E-Bay.”
LMAO
Boy our damned errors cause freakin problems!
No witty comment about Pena over there at 3rd huh.
Now I realize why the Yanks record is so bad when they make an error. Starters get flustered, throw more pitches, and the bullpen enters the game earlier.
Melancon and Pena making PeteAbe look bad of late.
That error hurts because it cost Burnett 10 extra pitches.
Thanks to Ray Romano Jr., Burnett had to throw an extra 10 pitches.
Thanks Tom in NJ
AJ gets out of the inning but he throws twice as many pitches than he should have. Those extra 9 pitches probably mean another 2 outs for the bullpen.
19 pitches for AJ that inning. Should have been less
molina hasn’t been throwing well lately.
a lot of his throws are tailing away towards first. he’s not getting that good four seam reverse spin fast ball throw down to second that seems to to rise up when it gets to the second base bag.
he was sending cruise missiles down there before.
Someone Else
The bullpen will be better even if they do nothing. It can’t get a lot worse. When Rookies come up to the Majors they are nervous and are worried about being sent back down. There is little faith right now in any BP guy because they have no roles and have been pitched out of necessity due to poor planning. Veras who looks awful now looked very good earlier until he had 2 games within a few days where he pitched 3 innings or more in each one. Veras hasn’t been the same since. Marte was hurt & trying to pitch. Robertson came up and pitched great and sent down the next day. When he was brought back up he was pressing IMO. Guys like Robertson, Melancon & Albie are aiming the ball trying not to walk guys & are walking guys. They are afraid of being hit. They are not being re-inforced with go with your stuff & make them beat you. When you lose a few games 15-0 you get burnt out. Everyone is tired and no one wants to pitch the next day. This has happened a lot this year due to Wang and others. It ruins any continuity. Again poor planning Management. Everyone is trying to play hurt in an all hands on deck approach. These are the issues that use to kill the RSox for many years. Now it is the Yankees pressing. It happens. Personally, Davey Johnson would look good in the Yankee’s manager spot.
Pete I am referring to the TMZ’s of the world, obviously not your basic papers that cover the Yankees.
Good thing they have Pena out there for his defense.
I wish we still had Pudge.
Come on Jeter that’s ugly.
that pitch was way off the plate…Jeter looked a bit too aggressive.
Jeter needs to take a walk there.
how many weak comebackers has jeter hit to the P this year?
cy sonnenstine is getting a workout so far.
Okay, we know Sonnanstine can field. Let’s test someone else.
I have seen that many Rays games this season. Does Carlos Pena always field his position standing on one leg?
1-2-3 inning. Sad.
Well. This game is over
sonnanstine looks good. or we just suck.
sonnanstine looks good. or we just suck.
wow..tex.
Has anyone ever been to Pittsburgh to see a game? What is the best hotel to stay at? And what is there to do there?
why do we have this unreal knack for making pitchers with really high era’s look like gold.
The offense should have been included in that team meeting, apparently.
yankee48 May 6th, 2009 at 7:22 pm
I wish we still had Pudge.
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Really the same Pudge who did nothing for the Yankees? The same one that got Joba injuried? That Pudge.
3 weak ground balls to start off the game…It looked like the hitters were more eager to put the ball in play than actually wait for a good pitch to hit.
I vote Melky for leadoff hitter
Not watching, but listening to Suzyn & John via mlb.com audio.
What’s the weather there? I know it’s been wet and all… could that be at least part of the reason for so many empty seats?
It looked to me like there were less than 10,000 at yesterday’s Tigers-Twins game. Then again, it *is* Detroit, and the economy’s awful here.
3 up 3 down
Does pete get paid by someone per reference to the seats behind home plate being filled? I mean Id prefer that they be filled also for more crowd noise but we get the point already.
Average fastball 95 mph.
TallTenor
Magglio has only 2 Extra basehits?
what are the saying in Detroit Rock City?
Whens the last time the umps have said someone went around?
What’s the weather there? I know it’s been wet and all… could that be at least part of the reason for so many empty seats?
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The weather is kinda gloomy and rain is supposedly a comin later tonight
Pete, stop the complaining about the luxury seats. You make 4-5 posts on it per day, no one wants to hear it anymore. You’re starting to get pathetic in your “journalism.”
Swish reminds me a lot of Damon. He may not be the most talented player in the world, but he always gives 110%.
4 SO for burnett.
They have to cut ticket prices in half again. This is truly embarrassing.
slow
Wait, there is concrete behind the padding?
I could have sworn that Bobby Abreu said it was metal spikes.
Come on.
Secret new stadium dimensions make it easier for visiting players to check their swings.
Poor Johnny.
There’s a guy who has a right to be afraid of the wall.
Got to get that pitch count down.
I assumed the stadium was half empty the past few nights because of the rain. But looking at tonight’s meager crowd, perhaps that was not the case…
Ugh, Red Sox have bases loaded 0 out against Pavano.
Nice pitching from AJ, but 41 pitches too high through 2 innings
Carl “how is he still healthy in May?” Pavano has the bases loaded with none out in Boston vs. the Mighty Bailey.
41 pitches for AJ
“BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!”
Some, but not too much. What I hear from the others in the stands is more glee that Cabrera is raking, combined with faith that Magglio will come around & be himself. I must say, though, I hadn’t realized his age… he’s 35 now.
Edwin Jackson was beaten the other day, but I swear, he matched Phil pitch-for-pitch last week, when I saw the Yanks.
I hope AJ makes it into the 7th
Pavano
Damon is horrible in the field-bad read, clumsy retreat awkward stretch for the ball, one more year of this
I think the place is gonna stay pretty empty until early when the games actually mean something. then us regular joe fans who have saved up enough over the past six months to afford a ticket can go. but until then i know i wont be spending money on any tickets outside the bleachers which appears to be the only spot in the stadium left with any character. i think with the open concourse and concession stands behind them, theyve created something good out there in right and left field. too bad the rest of the place is dead..
Bump Bailey?
Cano is slumping now…Great!
early fall*, that is
Whomever thinks it’s a non-issue that the seats behind home plate aren’t filled doesn’t have a clue.
It has implications (positive, unfortunately) for the opposing pitcher, just for starters, who must feel like they’re pitching at an A-ball game in Des Moines.
It’s also the reason, indirectly, that teh rest of us aren’t going to games this year. Not only have we been price out — we’ve been priced out by INVISIBLE fans.
Finally, the Yankees spend according to projections. Those ridiculous seats are worth a lot of mid-season acquisitions.
Anyway, thanks for the new, quiet Yankees Stadium, Randy Levine.
double play? how did cano just forget how to hit?
right-hand batters are batting 4 something against this guy. Why are the switch hitters batting from the left?
This team is unbearable to watch right now…hope that changes next inning
Count,
..dont forget that besides the pitchers our die hards are no longer lined up against the foul lines to taunt opposing position players..
forget the seats. we have a team that cannot hit with people on.
Pete:
By the the way, there are thousands and thousands of empty seats here. I have no idea if there is bad traffic or something else keeping the crowd away. But there are huge gaps of empty seats throughout the Stadium.
um… maybe the crappy team?
Um let it roll foul!! Dumb….. I can’t wait for Alex to get back.
So tonight we help Sonnanstine pad his stats? Cool.
where was that pitch?
Meals does his best to screw over the Yankees any chance he gets.
Cano’s patience has disappeared
This team is sad. The seats aren’t an embarrassment the team is.
“Meals does his best to screw over the Yankees any chance he gets.”
Honestly the Yankees should contact the league. Every single position Meals has umped, he has screwed the Yanks.
This team is depressing right now…
I hate saying, “Game over” to a 1-0 score with 1 out in the 3rd…but this team makes 1-0 seem like it might as well be 21-0. It’s very frustrating.
The Umps made my team suck.
Not to pick on Pena but he should have let that ball go foul.
These check swings are getting annoying.
Why are you guys complaining about Meals? He was beyond terrible behind the plate the other night, and I do hate him, but that was the right call at second. Jeter tagged his back foot, and the front foot hit the bag before it. He was safe. Jeter tagged him in the completely wrong spot, because the throw was there in plenty of time.
molina with a nice throw there.
i was taught to flip a ball in the air and without looking find four seam grip . after about ten thousand flips it’s second nature to find the right grip on the ball without thinking about it.
ypu can’t just grab the ball anywhere and just throw it unless you want all kind of different movement which you don’t. this actually goes for any position player throwing.
Burnett’s not making it into the 6th at this rate; then come the Keystome Cops.
jeter did seem a little late on that tag at second, but im not a ss so i couldnt tell if he just got caught on the front foot or if he just didnt sweep the ball in the right spot initially
Why would any of the Yankee pitchers be looking to get the close calls, as bad as they’ve been?? Just pitch AJ…
the last 1020830482483 check swings have been no calls against us
strikes AJ
jeter keeps the tag on upton at second he’s out
59 pitches for AJ. Yeesh
Molina has nothing left to prove with his throws to second base.
And yes Jeter without question blew that tag the ball beat him there by a mile…
Umps these past two series must be getting paid. They say the calls even out but not one has gone our way.
Not a good inning, but it wasn’t Burnett’s fault. Pena should have waited to see if Upton’s ball rolled foul, and Molina easily could have thrown him out at second (didn’t get a good jump).
Can someone tell me why the yanks make every opposing starting pitcher look like Cy Young? I mean its Andy Freaking Sonnanstine for crying out loud.
Glad we’re not facing Garza tonight. Might be a no-hitter.
Pena is having a truly awful game…. first that error and he should have walked in that at bat 3 times over
Yawn. Sonnastine has faced the minimum through 3. These guys better crush him his second time through the order.
Sonnanstine: 35 pitches; Burnett: 59 pitches. Yikes!
Two things:
Anyone complaining about the Yankees and making excuses for their line-up should take a look at Boston’s line-up tonight. If they can win, so can the Yanks.
Regarding the seats, it’s a self fulfilling prophecy. You price everyone out and then you put a mediocre team on the field, what do you expect. Most people are fickle, if you’re not worth watching, they’re not going to watch.
MOLINA SUCKS SO BAD. LET’S SEE… SLOW, CAN’T HIT, OVERRATED DEFENSE. HOW IS HE STILL PLAYING PRO BASEBALL?
man, they are dead. D-E-D, dead.
Guys, don’t fear. Come the late innings we have Cervelli, Berroa, and Gardner to pinch hit.
Just stopping to say, ‘hi’.
And vent. Tired of these struggling pitchers righting themselves against the Yankees.
And tired of these bogus check-swing calls. Every freaking game.
Also everyone in the league knows how putrid the Yankees bullpen is so eveyone will be taking pitches to drive up the starters pitch count.
man the rays are such a tough team…they have such great speed up and down their lineup, they have lik 6 ppl who can steal 20 bases..its ridiculous
“Molina has nothing left to prove with his throws to second base ”
nick in sf-
good one.
appreciate the earlier thumbs up from you. i think a light bulb went on during the early wang struggles that the same thing can be said without playing the blame game . i can still slip into it , but focusing on issues and looking for solutions rather than blaming someone makes for a much more productive conversation.
THE ENTIRE LINEUP IS GARBAGE
JETER – TRY DRIVING THE BALL FOR ONCE, BUDDY.
DAMON – POP UP OR HOMERUN
TEX – CONFUSED AND LOST
MATSUI – ONLY PRODUCTIVE HITTER
CANO – WILDLY INCONSISTENT
SWISHER – STRIKEOUT OR WALK
MELKY – BETTER GET READY FOR A SLUMP (0-50 VARIETY)
PENA – IN WAY OVER HIS HEAD
MOLINA – MY LITTLE BROTHER HITS THE BALL HARDER
man this group of umps are highly inconsistent
Burnett will restore order…
Victory will be ours tonight!
Go Yanks!!!!
aj, 68 pitches
I CAN’T WAIT TO SEE VERAS, EDWAR, ALBY AGAIN! START THEM UP, GIRARDI!
sure wish we kept navaro
Interesting what Ransom sucks wrote…I mean who among us during the 1st 3 weeks would have thought our only productive guy would be Hideki. amazing.
4 the love of GD. can we get out the inning?
sad that we gave up navarro for Randy Johnson…
rofl burnett gets sick of him foulin of pitches so he plunks him
try and guess who this guy is that is clutch and wanted to be a yankee? and a hellavu lot cheaper??
G AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO SB CS AVG OBP SLG OPS
26 89 21 31 8 0 6 18 25 17 0 0 .348 .491 .640 1.132
come on AJ
0-2 on a garbage batter, and you hit him. This team finds new and exciting ways to piss me off every night.
78 pitches.
“the same thing can be said without playing the blame game.”
The blame game is fun for a little while, but I prefer Hungry Hungry Hippo.
It’s getting late early…especially with Burnett’s pitch count climbing and the bullpen waiting in the wings to either make or break this game.
When was our last 1-2-3 inning?…..1998?
we really do make weak pitchers look way better than they are.
With this staff our MVP will be Aceves.
Finally
looks like the pen again for 4 innings.
AJ pitching fine, but 80 pitches through 4 means he has 2 innings at most left.
Great economy of pitches by Burnett. He won’t go more than five. Wonderful.
Five years. $85 million.
“try and guess who this guy is that is clutch and wanted to be a yankee? and a hellavu lot cheaper??”
Cheaper than who?
As we all know, every team is working our starters, having them throw the most possible pitches. Our underbelly (the bullpen) is softer than Mama Cass.
Again blame Burnett for our horrible defense/offense.
How did we ever win 89 games with Giambi instead of Tex and no pitching staff?
AJ up to 80 pitches
Offense needs to wake up
We’re going to see our terrible bullpen bright and early today. Might as well get some studying in.
“try and guess who this guy is that is clutch and wanted to be a yankee? and a hellavu lot cheaper??”
Cheaper than who?
cheaper than the money invested in these slumping, overrated chumps!
Still haven’t guessed?
“The blame game is fun for a little while, but I prefer Hungry Hungry Hippo.”
is that the new selena roberts board game ?
So as not to offend the sense and sensibilities of jinxsters, the Mets are not giving Johan Santana much offensive support through 4 innings.
Jeter isn’t running as fast anymore. He should have beat that out.
You could double Sonnastine’s pitch count at the begging of the 4th and he’d still have thrown fewer pitches than Burnett.
I didn’t know shortstops could do that
How do you pronounce Aceves? Just curious
man didnt we destroy this guy…jeter is like hitting 400 agaisnt him but hes thrown 10 pitches per inning..its ridiculous..
Its amazing how Andy Sonenstine with his 85 mph fastball turns our bats to sawdust. Gives me hope that Ian Kennedy can be succesfull one day.
Its amazing when you have a SS with range.
“You could double Sonnastine’s pitch count at the begging of the 4th and he’d still have thrown fewer pitches than Burnett.”
Blame the Yanks for not knowing how to work a pitcher who throws 80-85 mph.
yankees can not make that play up the middle by bartlett
Can we please score a run? Or even get a runner in scoring position?
Why are the seats empty?
Maybe the Yankees playing like crap has something to do with it. That’s one of the reasons I’m not there tonight.
The offense looks terrible tonight. Sonnanstine has terrible stuff I don’t know why they aren’t driving the ball.
Burnett is throwing well but he’s not PITCHING well. He’s been in trouble every inning and he’s already at 80 pitches. We’re looking at another 5-6 inning outing by our $85 million pitcher. Meanwhile the incredibly mediocre Andy Sonnanstine is at less than 50 pitches. Wow.
TEX ON BASE!!!!! sound the alarms
Dare I say it, but Sonnanstine is toying with these jokers.
we sure make mediocre pitchers look great, if ever a pitcher needs to improve their ERA all they need to do is pitch against the Yankees.
WOW, standing O!!!
We have a shortstop with range…he’s playing 3rd base
“cheaper than the money invested in these slumping, overrated chumps!
Still haven’t guessed?”
Oh I know who it is. He isn’t exactly cheap. Short term yes but not cheap.
Where was he supposed to play? They have LF/ DH covered.
“Its amazing how Andy Sonenstine with his 85 mph fastball turns our bats to sawdust. Gives me hope that Ian Kennedy can be succesfull one day.”
offense is embarrassing.
lmao you have to be kidding me
Wow Texeria with a hit, now that Cano has cooled off and Posada is out it would be nice to have Texeria at least play less crappy than he is going right now.
That was a great play in Left
well we have the great 2008 cano back now.
bleeeep
We seem to have a bunch of these no luck doubles now were doomed not to score.
I blame Randy Levine.
Damn Robbie
Cano has lost it and cannot buy a hit with RISP.
Did anyone really expect them to get either of those guys home?
Crawford played that really well off the wall. Once he barehanded it, us scoring a run there was never going to happen.
0-14. why does robbie have to fall off the cliff.
Cano you piece of crap!
Here’s what I don’t get: it just seems like Cash has done an awful, awful job. Why did it take 24 games to get a long reliever? And now, where is Tomko? Or a pinch hitter off the bench, at least for a while. If bringing up Tomko or Duncan, say, requires cutting guys from the 40-man roster, then, for Heaven’s sake, why not Ramirez and/or Veras? Have these guys not shown that they are below average? What good is a guy like Ramirez who you just can’t bring into games that are close or games with runners in scoring position? I mean, enough already. I say: don’t blame Girardi, blame Cash!
Boy, that’s quite some chip the Yankees have on their shoulders tonight.
Just what Joe Girardi called for.
Clearly the man has his finger on the pulse of this team and is in completely control of that clubhouse.
Someone get me a glove and a Rays uni. I think I could spell Sonnanstine when he gets tired, anyone can get the Yanks out right now.
If it weren’t so predictably sad, it would almost be funny — like Groundhog’s Day.
Getting a 2-1 lead for the bullpen to blow would have been more painful.
@ Al from BK:
No doubt, Al… As I mentioned earlier, Girardi called for a “chip on the shoulder,” and boy has he gotten it…
That’s quite some edge this team is playing with.
Clearly Joe Girardi is in charge of all things.
Wrong guy up at the wrong time.
Cano doesn’t walk.
I know people think that walks are overvalued, but when you don’t walk it means you have no plate discipline.
Unless you have an unusually quick bat like Soriano, that’s not good.
AJ’s not long for this game – unless they really push him. It’s pretty unbelievable how inefficient he’s been – but at least he’s only given up one run. Of course, that seems like 10 runs with the way the Yankees are hitting. I would prefer a few less Ks and a few more quick groundouts…
I agree Sam, this is all on Cashman. Girardi is playing the hand he’s dealt.
It was bound to happen – Cano’s in a slump, every player goes through it. He’ll be fine.
“How do you pronounce Aceves”
Ah-sev-es
Hard to be mad at A.J. He’s pitching a good game gave up 1 run and his team has made it feel like 10 runs.
AJ may have a high pitch count, but he is doing his job tonight.. Lineup is putrid! 6 underachievers and 3 automatic outs.. This happens every spring.
LOL at Cano’s approach right now… first at bat 1 pitch one out… 2nd at bat gets a 1-0 count and then swings at that pitch lol how about waiting for your pitch and driving it… i knwo hes never going to draw 100 walks but when you have a 1-0 count you can’t have an approach like he had.. Come on they can’t blow AJ’s performance….
My super-subtle Chan Ho Park jinx worked.
These guys are going to get Girardi fired. Now if he was Cashman’s guy doesn’t that get Brian canned too?
Donnie,
What is wrong with you? I pop in here every once in awhile, and every time you’re behaving like a negative a–hole. You act like this team owes a duty to perform to you and if they don’t, you run off and play you’re video games. For God’s sake, get a life. Move out of mom’s house, you’re making her miserable.
AJ’s been really strong. Unfortunately, he’ll be out of there after one more inning.
1-2 little runs. ‘Tis all we ask for
This team doesn’t respect Joe, look at how Torre has Manny playing in LA. A team of vets needs a veteran manager, lets get Pena or Bowa in here.
You guys are frustrated now because its 1-0. By the time we hit the 7th innig stretch the game will be out of reach and our fate will be sealed. You just have to bear the pain for another 2 innings and then we can drink away the night.
Again we’re trying to hit homeruns. Just get on base!
All hail ANdy sonnanstine
Swisher really needed to draw that walk there
Melky needs to read up on how to be patient
Really working the count here, its a shame AJ will be the loser tonight.
Do the Yankees hitters with the except of Swisher have somewhere to go?
this team sucks!
Melky butchered the Butcher Boy play.
Just play it straight up, Melky, you’ve been doing well.
way to take a pitch melky… moron
Nice patience, Melky.
A-Rod can’t single handled stop all these guys from taking bad at-bats. I really am not sure what kind of effect Alex is going to have, other than allowing Tex to see better pitches to hit.
Cynnastine.
Oops, doesn’t matter. He would have been erased on a DP.
at least he saw 5 pitches
Wait until the 7th to drink…hogwash…I start marinating ice cubes during the pregame show.
hes gonna throw a complete game..gaaahh
Andy Warhol could no-hit this team tonight! 7 pitches 2 outs.
*crickets
anyone who continues to complain about the noise levels, maybe no one is cheering because there is nothing to cheer about.
A pitcher with a 6 era with a 85mph fastball and we have no runs so far. Well I see AJ going 6 innings then the bullpen will give up 4 runs or so then the Yankees will score 3 runs when the game is out of reach. Are you kidding me a 9 pitch inning.
Why is Swisher swinging on a 3-0 count when they are struggling to even get baserunners….. trying to tie it up lol come on have a clue… they are horrible at working the pitcher this season and that is so key
Maybe A-Rod can give these scrubs some tips. At least A-Rod can hit in a non pressure situation. This team can’t even do that.
6 pitches so far. Melky is fashioning his butcher boy in the midst of a hitting streak. I wonder whose idea that was?
Dude is at 61 pitches.
This team is really hard to watch. Right now, the starters look better, but the offense is nowhere and the bullpen less than zero.
This must have been what it was like for the 20 teams that Moose beat last year with his 87mph heater….chinese water torture and now we are the torturees!
Al From,
How many hits and strike outs constitutes “Good” game?
I’d say AJ is pitching as well as anyone not named Zack Grienke tonight.
In fact the only way AJ could pitch any better is maybe if the team traded uniforms.
If this wasn’t goddamned pathetic I honestly might be able to turn away HAH
Andy-frickin-Sonnanstine….you’ve got to be kidding me. Why does this not surprise me?
I really like the way this team is making Sonanstein (spelling?) work…
Really making life hard for the guy… Of course, it’s not like he came in with an ERA over 6 or anything.
But obviously this isn’t Girardi’s fault… The team doesn’t look at all dead… They just don’t have any talent.
Poor Joe Girardi and his short stick.
Anybody want to bet Girardi talks about “being frustrated” and “needing to come out with a chip on their shoulder tomorrow” during the post game presser???
Keep on defending the man, PA… He clearly has a firm grip on this team.
he’s cruising through our lineup, something has to give, Jete and Damon next inning, hopefully they can something going there
making a pitcher with 7 era look like Cy young GOOD JOB
Peter love the blog but honestly if your going to cry about empty seats in every other comment whats the sense of reading the blog….How about complaining about the Yankees getting guys in here that can score runs or get people out. WHO CARES about the empty seats they don’t play in the field…win games thats how you get people there….
FIRE KEVIN LONG. THE GUY IS A FRAUD.
I say we get bludgeoned in this inning.
people who swing at the first pitch and at 3-1 pitches should have their lead arm cut off.
0-2 to a walk. C’mon, AJ, you just can’t give up batters like that.
Oh definitely – AJ’s doing his job, just not being efficient. I suspect he’s a guy that will do better in warmer weather……all power pitchers take time to heat up. These guys must be frustrated or at least feel like if they give up a run, it might mean the game.
i dont udnerstand that..0-2 and then u walk a guy who is struggling..i mean i just dont
I just switched over to Celtics/Magic. This team never scores first and when they do the starters give it right back. The bullpen is horrendous, no silver lining here. This team is awful enough excuses we are a week into May and this team looks like they belong on a golf course not a diamond.
Comparing Mussina’s and Sonnanstine’s stuff is a joke. They are not even in the same league. Sonnanstine relies on junk and non patient offenses. Mussina’s pitches had ridiculous movement and he had great accuracy… a million times better than this scrub facing the Yankees…
Actually, Vince, 3-1 is the pitch you DO swing on. Pitchers are generally trying to get it over to get it to a full count, and it’s often times something you can hammer. In theory, anyway.
the ball/strike calls have been very inconsistent these past few nights
leadoff walk sure helps the cause.
He walked him after 0-2 because he already plunked the other guy he was 0-2 on. gotta have variety
BRING IN VERAS! HAHAHAHA!
“Comparing Mussina’s and Sonnanstine’s stuff is a joke”
Sonnanstine for some reason reminds me of Ian Kennedy
102 pitches for burnett.
Burnett needs to be able to put hitters away after being 0-2
GAME OVER! WOOOOHOOO!!!
I don’t hear NEARLY enough boo’s for these gagging losers.
Wow, ahead of both guys 0-2, and now this
AJ’s done. He’s been ahead 0-2 and 1-2 on those guys, and let them off the hook. Problem is, who do you go to? Aceves and Coke are out. It’d probably be Veras or Edwar. No thanks.
Almost time for LOST.
This season is on the verge of getting ugly. There really is no excuse not to win both of these games and then sweep Baltimore.
leadoff walk scores.
bartlett the former twins player can of course bunt.
out for a run.
Here we loose the game, not like it wasnt lost before.
Not a good job by AJ – that’s when he could have used a K. Walking the leadoff guy on 0-2? Ouch
“leadoff walk scores.”
I feel like opponents get the leadoff walk around to score about 95% of the time while the Yankees only do so about 25% of the time. So frustrating.
that’s what manufacturing a run looks like? wooooowwww
This is sad win 3 lose 3. Omg a runner came in from third with one out being a Yankee fan i thought that was a myth.
I hope that inept fool Cashman is enjoying the joke of a team he built.
This game blows. We should have scored 3 runs off Sonnastine, though.
Big Joe
May 6th, 2009 at 8:42 pm
This must have been what it was like for the 20 teams that Moose beat last year with his 87mph heater….chinese water torture and now we are the torturees!
HAHAGHAHAHA
Excellent Analogy!!!
Well played.
I too often find it retroactively hilarious to ponder that “Mussina Swan Song.”
If I knew the team had a bullpen capable of holding any team from scoring more runs that run might be a bug deal.
Sozyn, isnt it funny how these leadoff walks always score!! Anyway we dont have a monitor….
So first Sabathia gets out-pitched by Matt Palmer and now AJ Burnett gets out-pitched by Andy Sonnanstine.
Those off-season signings really aren’t panning out. All these guys stink.
I love AJ, but that’s just a terrible job……..I’m disappointed.
3 runs might as well be 30. Once again, when the offense is on, the pitching sucks. When the pitching is on, the offense can’t be bothered to hit. Just disappointing all around.
Game over
Sac bunts. Sac flys. Two-out hits with RISP. Is that allowed?
Again, WHERE IS THE OFFENSE?
It’s not the pitching. It’s our pitiful hitting. Last night we had a 1 run game for 4 straight innings and couldn’t tie it up, and tonight we’re getting shut out by a guy who has nothing and has been AWFUL this year.
This team absolutely cannot do anything right at the moment
this team is petty sad
this team is petty sad
Hey PA… Does Joe G. take any of the blame for showing all the life of a corpse the day after he called for a chip on their shoulder???
We are not very good. Every team we have played has gotten big hits when they need it. We are not capable of doing that and it’s frustrating.
unreal. unbelievably frustrating. damnit.
Betsy, he’s over 100 pitches. He shouldn’t be out there anymore, but there is literally…LITERALLY no one in the bullpen that you can put on the mound without allowing the game to get out of hand.
Cashman’s pitcher’s spot leading off.
We have no offense and all they talk about is AROD sliding for the first time…What a joke this team has become….And it all start with Clownardi
“Almost time for LOST.”
Isn’t that what we’ve been watching for the past few days already?
Chubbo
Thanks but I take no pleasure in being right on that one. Just ironic.
stop blaming cashman, stop blaming girardi, start blaming the hitters with no ability to hit. yankees should change their name to new york homeruns or bust.
I really don’t understand how you blame AJ. It’s not like we have a lead again and he blew it. We’re not scoring. If we can’t hit cynnanstine we don’t deserve to win the game.
This team is pathetic right now, lets pray the get better winning 4 then losing 4 is not going to get us to the playoffs
I can just imagine in the postgame all the Yankees hitters will be raving about how good Sonnastine’s stuff was today. For once I’d love someone to say, “You know what? We should have scored off this guy and we did a bad job at the plate.”
we have a few themes..
starters walk to many.
hitters terrible with RISP..
Not real complicated….Burnett is the tease he always has been electric stuff, but a little over a 500 pitcher…
nothing going right a tthe moment.. need to grind, plug away, and try not to do too much.
BTW Burnett is 32 so he can throw more pitches then Joba…
OK so Joe Maddon has not been resigned past this year. Maybe we can get him since the other Joe seems to be doing an ok job for the Dodgers.
“So first Sabathia gets out-pitched by Matt Palmer and now AJ Burnett gets out-pitched by Andy Sonnanstine.
Those off-season signings really aren’t panning out. All these guys stink.”
they didnt get outpitched the offense looks like little leaguers swing a bat with cano not hitting, tex sucking,swish cooling down, and bottom 3 r automatic outs
“So first Sabathia gets out-pitched by Matt Palmer and now AJ Burnett gets out-pitched by Andy Sonnanstine.
Those off-season signings really aren’t panning out. All these guys stink.”
they didnt get outpitched the offense looks like little leaguers swing a bat with cano not hitting, tex sucking,swish cooling down, and bottom 3 r automatic outs
AUTOMATIC OUT MOLINA IS BATTING NEXT, CANT WAIT.
I realize we’re 25 or so games into the season and we need patience, but this team is brutal to watch. I just want to see some fire, some excitement. I realize how many players are hurt but come on.
Nick in SF May 6th, 2009 at 8:55 pm
“Almost time for LOST.”
Isn’t that what we’ve been watching for the past few days already?
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But at least the TV show is enjoyable! This team right now, not too much fun to watch
you have got to be kidding me!!!!!!!!
Unbelievable. Its like the Yankees think the umps are calling them out after 1 strike
one pitch one out
1 pitch 1 out against Cashman’s pitcher. Cashman is so bad at his job it’s almost unbelievable.
again look at Cano’s #’s with RISP, he needs to stop trying to be a hero.. When is he going to learn this???
atta boy Molina-make him work.
One pitch, one out. Way to go, guys.
Do they realize this is Andy G.D. Sonnenstine? This guy is garbage. Oh well, I’m used to this.
Yes to all the Cy Young references. Pathetic.
I can just imagine in the postgame all the Yankees hitters will be raving about how good Sonnastine’s stuff was today. For once I’d love someone to say, “You know what? We should have scored off this guy and we did a bad job at the plate.”
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Amen to that. I’m sick of hearing the Yankees saying “We could’ve done this, this and that and maybe next time blah blah blah. He did a real good job blah blah blah.” Do it right the first time Yankees.
65 pitches for sonnastine and 2 K’s.. zero walks shocking…..what a concept throw strikes….
How many pitches is Sonnanstine up to?
im predicting a perfect game for the the guy pitching tomorrow
NICE ONE JETER.
J Sterling: “You don’t have to pitch over 90 mph…”
No, you just have to pitch to the Yankees. Stop the madness and play small/smartball.
they players dont seem to care, so why the hell should the fans to go to the games
CY Young candidates are wishing they would pitch against the Yankees every outing
This is the part where Damon singles, Tex singles, and with runners on first and third, Matsui will pop out to end the inning.
Come on Tex, let’s get one on the board!
Carl, no one is a bigger AJ fan than I am – I’m not killing him for giving up 1 run. However, he just did not do a good job in the 6th – walking batters, giving up hits to so/so hitters – he had to minimize the damage. That 2 out hit was killer. This game is really on the Yankees offense – I agree with that. They seem like they’re getting out classed.
Okay, Johnny doubled, so nevermind.
Instead, this is the part where Tex strikes out or pops up in the infield.
So will Damon be left stranded?
A double with 2 outs who cares
yes a player in scoring position. i expect big things here. i am also on pcp
JETER IS SO F*CKING TERRIBLE. THEY BETTER BREAK UP HIS OLD GUARD PRETTY SOON. IT SHOULD START WITH JETER. NO DEFENSE AND STRICTLY A SINGLES HITTER = USELESS.
another pitcher looking to pad his stats against the yankees. I’m tired of above average pitchers no hitting us.
things are bad when the positive is, hey look tex is over .200
Trevor May 6th, 2009 at 9:01 pm
So will Damon be left stranded?
Does a duck fart ripple pond water?
Am I only one who sat through last season and watched the same uninspired team flounder all year? If not, how can anyone seriously suggest “its early”. This team looks as if the calendar never turned. Why do so many think things are magically going to change. At some point, it might not be the players, but the atmosphere around the team. The easiest way to change that is by firing the manager. The time has come for the Yankees to shake things up.
6 shutout innings for junkballing garbage against the inept fool Cashman’s 206 million dollar laughingstock.
Sigh. Believe it or not, I hate when I’m right about these things.
who had strike out in the pool?
hey look at that
who comes off the books at the end of the year?
Damon who else
Seriously, did arod ever go 0-18 with risp? COME ON!!!!!!
What can you say, they’re offensively challenged.
get over the cashman’s team thing. he cannot help that half our team is hurt at the same time, and the skill players cannot hit when someone gets on base.
It’s really sad knowing that you’re gonna lose by the 7th inning every game. I’m out goodnight all.
at least the Mets are getting 1 hit by chan HO Park
stupid old team. jeter is done and he can’t hold a jockstrap to arod.
fire retardi, long and the idiot of a pitching coach.
OMFG
Tex what are you looking at. This is unbelievable, we got another Jason Giambi, walk, so or hr.
Will, im sorry but i just dont see how girardi is the thing that will change this team. all firing him will do is exactly what it did for the mets.. absolutely nothing. if the team cant be inspired by the fact that their the f*ckin yankees than theres nothing you can do but change the squad.
Tex is so overrated. He has Arod with out the fabulous numbers.
Anybody else sick of seeing Yankees players yucking it up with the opposition when we’re getting our asses kicked??? AGAIN???
But just remember, no matter how asleep-at-the-wheel this team looks, Joe Girardi is not accountable for ANY of that… PA said so.
matsui
Did A-Rod eve go 0-18 with RISP?
Yes, its called the playoffs. He’s 0 for his last 27 with runners on base in the postseason.
If Arod is healthy then they have to bring him back for Friday’s game. No if’s and’s or but’s. Let him get his at bats up here. The lineup is just absolutely brutal. They are such easy outs and don’t have long at bats where they battle. Now lets see how long the bullpen can go before they give up the usual tack on runs.
Boston and Toronto should just rest until October.
“Does a duck fart ripple pond water”
“who comes off the books at the end of the year?
Damon who else”
Damon, Matsui, Nady, Pettitte. I would hope to sign one of Holliday/Crawford to replace Nady or Damon. The more and more I see of this team the more I am thinking about 2010 sadly.
Well, its time for BP on yes. Batting Practice.
If we lose this game. Fire the retardi. They are too good of friends with him. We need buck showalter
Please do not post in ALL CAPS.
It’s annoying to others and labels you as a moron. So stop.
Would SOMEBODY PLEASE wheel a TV in front of George’s bed???
Not only does Girardi not manage the game well, but I’ve nver seen so many players jog down the line, make mental errors and socialize with the opponent. The atttitude around this team has changed. That stems from the manager. It’s time to shake that up.
Jeter’s defense is just getting worse every year…
Yeah, lets make more excuses for the inept fool GM. It’s not like the he has the resources to build depth for this team so that he doesn’t get caught with his dumbass pants down every time there is an injury. FIRE THIS BUM.
Yankee fans booing is really annoying. I mean, its SO uneeded at this point
WIRE: unathletic Yankee team being beaten by younger, athletic team playing better fundamental baseball. Oh, wait, that’s not news.
crawford will be on 3rd before you can blink
can you say 4 nothing
QUICK! Somebody make me feel better about the Yankees 13-14 record by reminding me of an old team that started out crap and made the playoffs.
Glad to see you here, Pete…
So tell us… Is Joe Girardi accountable for ANY of this???
How dead can a team look before you start giving the manager a little heat???
why would we want matt holliday? because all of these big money contracts are really working for us.
does holliday even have a homerun yet this year?
if billy martin’s ghost came back to manage this team they would still be total crap.
oh boy….
every night I turn on TV, Yanks are behind.
Fire Cashman
albeit more entertaining..
Bring in buck, if he cant do it its ok. Because whenever he leaves something gold happens.
Yankees win the series, ESPN wins and espy.
All goods in my books for bringing this guy in to replace retardi
Crawford gets #20
i say we go after crawford next year
fongool!
Peter Abraham
May 6th, 2009 at 9:05 pm
Did A-Rod eve go 0-18 with RISP?
Yes, its called the playoffs. He’s 0 for his last 27 with runners on base in the postseason.
Well, its the REGULAR season and we could sure use THOSE numbers right now.
Al from BK: was that a real goodnight or was that a James Brown-style false exit?
jeter= done season=over
definitely rather have crawford than holliday. no more guys who depend on homeruns
Game over Disgrace
We got a guy with a chance to be a really dynamic, athletic player… He got BENCHED by Joe Girardi after 18 games!
And George lamented with this lamentation over Joe and over Cashman his GM:
… The beauty of The Yankees is slain upon thy high places: how are the mighty fallen!
Tell it not in New England, publish it not in the streets of Boston; lest the daughters of the Philistines rejoice, lest the daughters of the uncircumcised triumph.
Can C.C give some pounds to edwar.
Edwar stinks
walk pena.
Has it become painfully obvious to anyone else that Jeter no longer has the range to be a major league SS? We’ve got a guy with a 3rd baseman’s range playing SS tonight and a guy who is supposedly a world class SS playing 3rd base – badly. Screw offense these Girardi better start thinking about defense. The Yankees are 11-3 in games where they do not make an error this year.
DJ and Posada can no longer field their position and there is no where else to put either of them.
If you wanna watch GOOD baseball, turn on SNY
Why not put blame where it is due?
The hitting has been awful, and the pen.
Yesterday Joba had an AWFUL start, but he settled and dealt. Yet the Yankees can only score 3 runs. Today, AJ did pretty good, Yet the Yankees can’t score off a junkballer.
I hope Girardi pitches Robertson in the 8th inning. They need to see if he is an option in the late innings. We have seen Ramirez already. He doesnt have the pitches to get it done. I don’t know what Girardi sees in him.
You guys are busting on Jeter…and I, for the life of me, can’t understand why. Like, seriously, do you know anything about baseball, or do you just read other people’s comments and react to them? I am not trying to zing you, I honestly want to know. That was a slow grounder from a guy with blazing speed. He would have been safe no matter who was fielding. If you want to hate on Jeter, that’s fine, but wait until he actually does something worth hating.
Bring in Buck!!!
yeah replace damon with crawford I would like that, but you know as soon as he lands in a Yankee uni he will pull a hammy
“QUICK! Somebody make me feel better about the Yankees 13-14 record by reminding me of an old team that started out crap and made the playoffs.”
2007 yankees were under .500 going to the all star break and still made it as the wild card
Yankees just have no will to win.
TIME FOR AROD TO TAKE OVER SS.
“We got a guy with a chance to be a really dynamic, athletic player… He got BENCHED by Joe Girardi after 18 games!”
Thats because Melky “Prince Fielder JR” Cabrera showed that he has talent to hit HRs in April from the 9 hole
HELLO???
PETE???
IS THIS THING ON???
Joe Girardi???
Accountable for ANYTHING???
Yes???
No???
Maybe???
Well, pete, I know you’ve never been in the bleachers, but that’s most likely due to a Boston fan being out there and doing something obnoxious. Thanks for the breaking news, though! Admirable journalism!
i think nick green has more power than jeter.
Imagine Michael Kay as the Yankee manager?
Nice inning Edwar.
i have never seen so many people thrown out than i did last night in the bleachers. it actually made the game better for me.
Hey pete any whispers out about Joe Girardi being fired because they do not play at all for this guy. Just imagine him trying to clown around with one of the players. hes awful
“The hitting has been awful, and the pen.”
That’s the sign of a terrible team. When they pitch they don’t hit and vice versa. The games where they actually score runs like 6 or 7 they give up 10..so they lose.
Crap. That was good Edwar. That means next time he comes out, he’ll be bad Edwar…which of course means he’ll be used in the 7th inning when we have a 4-3 lead.
Dee
May 6th, 2009 at 9:09 pm
i say we go after crawford next year
I say no because with our luck he will not perform.
Andrew May 6th, 2009 at 9:15 pm
Well, pete, I know you’ve never been in the bleachers, but that’s most likely due to a Boston fan being out there and doing something obnoxious. Thanks for the breaking news, though! Admirable journalism!
lol
Last night the manager of the New York Yankees said his team “had to come out today with a chip on their shoulder.”
Everybody who thinks they did, raise your hand.
Clearly Joe Girardi is right on top of everything and in completely control.
Everyone stop getting so negative Think positive and positive things will happen
Everyone stop getting so negative Think positive and positive things will happen
Everyone stop getting so negative Think positive and positive things will happen
What?
Edwar pitched a scoreless inning?
Does he get to keep the ball?
Isn’t this one of the signs of the apocalypse? A scoreless inning from Edwar?
A chance to pick up ground on the Sox and to stay above .500 and we are getting shut-out by a guy with a 6 ERA.
Edwar got tough when he had to…
Now let’s get some runs!
Go Yanks!
A stupid miracle happened.
The first comment at 9:10 has no place on this blog.
“The Bleacher Creatures are chanting “Boston sucks.” That makes sense. The Yankees are 0-5 against Boston and playing Tampa Bay. ”
We’re becoming more and more like the REd Sox every day. That’s the kind of thing they do
Edwar just did a great job. He really bared down and got out of the inning. Unfortunately the offense has been inept tonight; 3 runs might as well be 30.
Yeah… as if Damon or A-Rod would respond to Buck Showalter.
They would turn on him so fast and he’d be out of here.
Here comes the single double and Homerun
Sonnanstine is like the right handed version of Casey Fossum.
AJ has always had mediocre control and threw a lot of pitches
He isin’t Roy Halladay. He isin’t a “workhorse”. He is never going to have quick innings.
UPDATE, 9:08 p.m.: The Bleacher Creatures are chanting “Boston sucks.” That makes sense. The Yankees are 0-5 against Boston and playing Tampa Bay.
That makes as much sense as the Patr iots fans chanting “Yankees Suck” in the crowd after they cheated their way to their first Super Bowl… and Im a Patr iots fan
Pete, they’re saying “Box Seats Suck.” They always say that after the Roll Call. And they can do it now because the whole section behind the plate is empty.
Maybe in Girardi’s meeting today with the pitchers they told Ramirez if he doesn’t get people out they won’t feed him.
Anyone else tired of hearing about the poor turnout at the stadium thus far? Seriously, we get it, people who have bought the seats behind home plate aren’t showing for games, and a majority of those tickets aren’t even sold. But how many more times do we have to have it shoved down our throats Pete?
That’s just all defense
Put Melancon back out there and see how he responds after last night.
They are losing by three runs. Girardi probably won’t use him in a big situation for awhile so he might as well stick him out there now.
The kid can’t learn if he sits out in the pen and rots for a week because Girardi doesn’t want to use him.
damn Sonnanstine is having a good night. 7th inning 80 pitches
Because these millionaires need a manager to get them to play hard.
What are these 22 yr old kids? We’re paying these guys all this money and they can’t play hard unless a manager screams at them?
This mess is an indictment on the players more than it is on Girardi.
7 shutout innings for junkballing crap against the inept fool Cashman’s joke of a team. These gagging losers are making me wish for 2008…
No, C, here comes the ground out, fly out, strike out.
From the way Yankees offense is hitting against every pitcher who has an ERA > 5, I’m wondering whether Yankees are doing any pregame scouting and do their homework?
It’s either players’ fault, manager’s fault, or hitting coach’s fault. But seems no one is resonsible for it.
at least someones pissed they’re losing..
And Cleveland is going into Fenway and beating up the Sox
Tampa is 10-15 and they come into our building and throw a complete game shutout
Embarrassing
Good for Swisher. That call was a joke, not even CLOSE.
At least someone cares out there. Good job Swish
there is some fire stupid umpires
And the only one with any fire on this team gets tossed. great.
Burnett can only wish to get that pitch called a strike..The strike zone so far this season has been unreal. As the Yanks continue to get man handled by another garbage pitcher.
Yeah they’re chanting “box seat sucks”. And after every roll call at renovated stadium they chanted “Boston Suck”. No one made a big deal of it. But since it’s a new stadium I guess it’s ok to pile on.
u wanna see GREAT baseball turn on nesn
The Dead Bats society is blowing an economical performance from Burnett, who’s filthy stuff is keeping these guys off balance.
Gosh, can we ever get a situational hit?????
And hello, Brett Gardner.
Swish is clearly frustrated, and I know you can’t argue balls and strikes…but they are giving NO ONE any rope, and that’s just not right. This crew of guys clearly thinks they’re part of the game, and that’s unfortunate. If we don’t see this crew ever again, it’ll be too soon.
It’s Gardner time now! It’s all stacked up for that spot in the order to come up in a clutch situation and Gardy can grit one out.
The Red Sox without Youk have been neutered vs. Carl Pavano. Believe it or not!
swisher just slowed down sonnestine by stepping way out of the box.
then the umpire penalized him for making everyone wait.
the games within the game.
Well, the Yanks haven’t had a complete game shut out pitched against them so far this year. At least they are finding new ways to lose.
I just wanted to announce that this bites.
Raining real hard now in Jersey
If I’m Girardi I pull Swisher out of the game anyway for swinging for a home run with no one on and down 3-0.
RGR (Believe in Carsten Charles)
May 6th, 2009 at 9:10 pm
I really hope Tampa becomes extremely Jewish this offseason and not pick up Crawfords 10M dollar option
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Pete…you should remove this post, and ban this ass from the blog.
ALbaladejo throws 1 pitch.
ANyone know how credible a source Selena Roberts is and if her book will actually sell?????
http://zsmart.blogspot.com/200.....dated.html
The Poster Boy for controversy better not be sensitive alex when we need these runs
What is more embarrassing?
A) Cell phone going off at a Funeral.
B) Falling in public
C) The New York Yankees
Here comes Girardi’s boyfriend to pitch the 8th..Is he ever going to give another pitcher a chance?!! Alba has been awful and he pitches him everyday. Girardi try someone new already!!
You can buy talent, you can’t buy mental makeup.
These guys are all pressing and look as tight as a drum. Has nothing to do with heart, they are just melting under the lights and letting pressure get to them. They look like the Mets in September.
Can anyone in the pen throw strikes?
This umpiring crew has been CONSISTENTLY TERRIBLE.
Burnett wasn’t even getting called strikes on pitches over the plate and Sonnastine gets a pitch 3 inches outside?
And Girardi continues to run the 3 Stooges out there.
Well, we got a good effort from Ramirez…maybe we’ll get one from Albaladejo…
Then it’s the offense’s turn…
Go Yanks!
what happend to Murderer’s Row & cano
Agree, Sean (and spark).
Boy oh boy that meeting today really helped.
The Yankees have 4 hits, 0 runs against the very mediocre Andy Sonnanstine. They haven’t even made the guy work, he’s at only 84 pitches through 7 innings. Does it get much worse than a complete game shutout vs Andy freaking Sonnanstine?
“If I’m Girardi I pull Swisher out of the game anyway for swinging for a home run with no one on and down 3-0.”
First of all it was 1-0 and Giradi probably gave him the green light to hit 3-0 trying to tie it up with the bottom of the lineup coming up
Shockingly Boston is playing another team aside from the Yankees and they are back to being the same mediocre team they are when they aren’t playing the Yankees. There is no better example of what UTTER GARBAGE this yankee team is.
Al from BK May 6th, 2009 at 9:27 pm
What is more embarrassing?
A) Cell phone going off at a Funeral.
B) Falling in public
C) The New York Yankees
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I vote for choice “D”
D) Al from BK
Have some perspective.
Ups and downs happen throughout 162 games. But you’re no different than a Red Sox troll with all the nonsense you spew on a daily basis.
I love that kid
Hey Pete…
Joe Girardi’s team is getting SHUT OUT by a guy with a 7 ERA.
Does it look to you like they have that “chip on their shoulder” the manager called for just last night????
Excellent play by Pena.
Patrick
I think the meeting was with the pitchers only. I may be wrong but that’s what I read. The pitchers have not been terrible. Batters meeting tomorrow…same bat time….
look at the positive our offense cant be worse than the past 3 days right?
Man I think A-Rod was correct we do need Jose Reyes.
I love Tex…on defense.
Come on boys lets get a rally.
C wrote:
First of all it was 1-0 and Giradi probably gave him the green light to hit 3-0 trying to tie it up with the bottom of the lineup coming up
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I was talking about the at bat he got thrown out on. The score was 3-0 at the time. I’m so sick of watching Yankees swing for the fences when they are down by multiple runs with no one on base. They need baserunners. Swing for hits.
“Ups and downs happen throughout 162 games. But you’re no different than a Red Sox troll with all the nonsense you spew on a daily basis.”
Would you care to name some of these “ups” all I have seen from this team is horrific under-achievement. I think following up your 5th straight loss to your biggest enemy with this tonight pretty much sums up the team. Yes but I am the one acting ridiculously.
Here comes Cashman’s garbage parade at the bottom of the lineup.
thats right, jose reyes, just what we need.. one more player that wont give a f***
It stinks I want to go see the new stadium but driving 1 hour each way and paying $50 bucks is just not worth it right now with the way this team is playing. It seems like they win 1 out of every 5 games so the odds of being there on a good night is very slim. Maybe that is what alot of people are thinking and that is why there are so many empty seats.
“look at the positive our offense cant be worse than the past 3 days right?”
Every time I think that with this team they find a new way to disappoint.
Arod is coming
Alabedjo again? I was a fan, but he’s been very mediocre lately – not only that, but his arm is going to fall off. I don’t care how badly anyone pitches – I don’t want them to get hurt. This is ridiculous. Really, Joe’s use of the pen is hideous
Alabedjo again? I was a fan, but he’s been very mediocre lately – not only that, but his arm is going to fall off. I don’t care how badly anyone pitches – I don’t want them to get hurt. This is ridiculous. Really, Joe’s use of the pen is hideous
Why would you play money to watch this gutless team?
You can sit at home and watch them get owned by a 85 MPH junkballer.
Cano is the only player in the game that can go from hitting everything and being on a season long hitting strike to a slump without a single game of transition.
What the hell is wrong with this offense? Sonnastine had a terrible era when this game started. Masterson was not doing well before he faced us. Verlander had an era of 9 and we turned his season around when he faced us. I dont think its the pitching though – i think this offense is anemic for some reason.
And the only thing i like about yankee stadium is the actually stadium. The organization has done everything within its power to completely ruin this transition for the fans. Last year sucked and was the worst season of my life to close out the house that ruth built. Now, they give us 10 year ticket holders the worst seats in the stadium and put security in every single section to make sure the thousands of empty seats stay empty.
WANT TO HEAR A PLAN FOR HOW TO FIX THE EMPTY SEATS BEHIND HOMEPLATE? Let the packed bleacher section go into the better sections. They can better seats and the team doesnt look like jack@$$es. The yank organization needs to buy a clue – they are really hurting themselves and that joke that they called cutting prices was another slap in the face. Yea, cut prices to your 2000 dollar season ticket seats. What the heck is that going to do except buy you more bad publicity? Good job – now the team is playing badly and the franchise as a whole looks even more pathetic. Great way to open the new stadium!
“thats right, jose reyes, just what we need.. one more player that wont give a f***”
Very true, the last thing we need is a player from the Mets. They have more talent than we do out on the field yet they play with even less pride if thats even possible.
I want these idiots to have a long losing streak.
“The Bleacher Creatures are chanting “Boston sucks.” That makes sense. The Yankees are 0-5 against Boston and playing Tampa Bay.”
Ugh. That’s pathetic. We sound like Boston fans. I hate that we’ve turned into them.
“The Bleacher Creatures are chanting “Boston sucks.” That makes sense. The Yankees are 0-5 against Boston and playing Tampa Bay.”
Ugh. That’s pathetic. We sound like Boston fans. I hate that we’ve turned into them.
In between the heartaches (keeping with the Bacharach/David theme), Burnett delivered that dreaded ‘quality start’ and Edwar and Alby haven’t thrown their usual gasoline on the fire.
Put this one on the weakness of the lineup, not the pitching.
Don’t count on it, TD. Dumbasses like that are the glue that binds this blog together.
BOX SEATS SUCK BOX SEATS SUCK
heres some perspective in yankeeland a) the team is old slow overpaid no range horrid bullpin b) no farm system & c)and above everything else empty seats ttttttttttttthhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee yyyyyyyannnnnnnnnnnnnnnkkkkkkkkkkeeeeeesssss lose Again
“Did A-Rod eve go 0-18 with RISP?
Yes, its called the playoffs. He’s 0 for his last 27 with runners on base in the postseason.”
Since you’re posting in the message section tonight could you answer this question: Did you contribute to Selena Roberts’ book on Alex Rodriguez? With all the investigating she did, I’m sure she would have come to the Yankee beat writers for information and with the way you write about Rodriguez on here, I’m sure you’d be able to fill a few chapters for her.
So, did you contribute to Selena Roberts’ book?
Melancon, Robertson, Edwar, Veras, Albaladejo, and Coke all pitched last night
Who do you want to pitch Betsy? CC?
Maybe if the starters decided to give us some innings, the pen wouldn’t be tired out. Someone has to pitch these innings.
“The Bleacher Creatures are chanting “Boston sucks.” That makes sense. The Yankees are 0-5 against Boston and playing Tampa Bay.”
They’re chanting “box seats suck”. They always do.
“Arod is coming”
He needs to hurry up, although I’d switch him from 3B to DH for awhile.
what are the chances of molina and pena on base at the same time?
If the Yankees lose, this loss is squarely on the offense.
man we suck. If the offense is having trouble figuring out Sonnanstine just imagine what would happen if Garza was pitching.
Pena made him work and then got a hit.
Where was that 5 innings ago?
Ofcourse this is the spot where the pinch hitter should be batting. But ofcourse this team doesnt have 1. Cashman is a joke…
Crawford is a FA which yr ?
Molina is a DP in human form.
Is there a rationale reason why this team is carrying 13 pitchers? This is an especially impermissive impediment in the AL with DH. Why did Tony LaRussa ever have to have any success with specialized pitching?
I feel like we’re never gonna see Mo again..
How can we this bad?
Forget A-Rod… most teams could only dream of having Damon-Jeter-Teixeria-Cano-Matsui-Swisher on their team.
We look completely overmatched. We can’t even score.
he cannot dh. matsui is actually hitting.
Would you care to name some of these “ups” all I have seen from this team is horrific under-achievement. I think following up your 5th straight loss to your biggest enemy with this tonight pretty much sums up the team. Yes but I am the one acting ridiculously.
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So if you don’t like it – turn off the TV and stop watching. It’s a very simple and easy fix.
People also overreact when they lose to the Red Sox. They haven’t had a winning record in any season against them since 2003 – but they’ve turned it around and outplayed them from June through September.
The starters haven’t gotten on a roll yet and they will. Teixeira hasn’t hit and A-Rod hasn’t played a single game. They’ve also had a number of injuries.
Be a man for once instead of constant whining. I can copy and paste 100 comments by you whining and moaning about everything and it’s stupid.
Sit back and be patient and watch what happens.
If that’s too much for you – go find another hobby. You’re part of the reason why this forum turns to horse dung during game threads.
“Pena made him work and then got a hit.”
He is a rookie.
dam it almost happened
Just can’t catch a break. Happened last night, happening again tonight.
cant catch a break. he will K now.
Sad that our best pinch hitter is the Sr. Citizen
about 2 weeks ago, i was thinking “Girardi might be gone by the all-star break.” now i think he’ll be lucky to survive june.
Rally?
This team is just a joke right now – call me when you find where you left your balls! These games are a waste of my time. I’ll come back when they grow a pair.
Now can Jeter come up in the clutch and do it?
For the love of Christ, Jeter, you are a singles hitter…HIT A FRIGGIN’ SINGLE.
I would have sent him, but good AB by Molina, great baserunning by Pena.
Lets play strand the runners!
The internet is not good for baseball.
“man we suck. If the offense is having trouble figuring out Sonnanstine just imagine what would happen if Garza was pitching.”
I don’t even want to imagine that
NVm it just happened. now what are the chances of jeter getting a base hit with 2nd and 3rd?
girardi will not be fired.
he is working with what he has.
We could be 20 games out in July and Franco will tell us to be patient and we’ll be fine.
Optimism quickly turns to delusion.
Molina hits two hard balls down the right field line? I didn’t think that was possible…
Come on, Captain Clutch.
Alex can not be the savior for the team. For one, he’s just one man – he’ll get up 4 times a game. That leaves a whole bunch of outs to be made by other players. More importantly, he’s going to be rusty and will probably get off to a slow start. I expect he’ll be booed per usual…
I won’t kill Cano for being human – every player goes into a slump. I really don’t know what to say about this offense – if their good hitters don’t hit, then the Yankees are toast. We’ve got no choice but to wait it out.
Well that’s a first. Ofcourse they probably won’t leave there bases. If Jeter and Damon can’t do anything here then they really stink. When will Pena and Molina ever be on base together again?!…
“Sad that our best pinch hitter is the Sr. Citizen”
He’s getting DFA’d after tonight.
Step up Jeter
where are all the yankee stadium homeruns?!?
i thought pop ups went out here in which case we should have 100 more homeruns.
Here comes jeter grounding into a fielder’s choice and getting an RBI.
How can we screw this up, this time???
jeter is 1-1 with a HR of wheeler
I think I just brought the Molina mojo good luck!
Just got back in. Here is what I will say, and what I said last night when we had the same thing happening.
YA GOTTA PLATE SOME RUNS WHEN YOU GOT SECOND AND THIRD AND ONE OUT! PLEASE!!!!!
Here’s something predictable. Red Sox have gone into their “we just took care of the Yankees and now guess what?” swoon. Tribe winning 7-2.
How did AJ pitch overall?
For the record I am out in right and it wasn’t a boston sucks chat, it was the classic box seats suck chat. Appropriate and true.
I know it’s all about the W’s and L’s (and the benjamins), but on an entertainment level, the Yanks’ offense has been really dull up until this point, but the bottom of the order has just shown a pulse and we have an actual exciting moment in this game. Can we as fans enjoy it?
Brandon-I think they’ll keep Angel up for a week or so. You want to make sure that Alex doesn’t re injure it. They’ll send someone from the pen down.
“I won’t kill Cano for being human – every player goes into a slump.”
Hard to kill a player who has carried the offense all season.
Micheal Kay SHUT UP !
how about jeter singles and a 3 run homerun for damon?
spark
dont worry.. we’ll find a way.
don’t worry spark, they’ll find a way.
Jeter we need a slap single. Not a big swing…
Good news- Cleveland managed to score 7 runs off Masterson and Hunter Jones.
Bad news- that same combo of pitchers shut the Yankees down last weekend.
Also good news- Pavano in line to get the win in Boston
A-Roid is coming
Wheeler definitely has the girl with the curl syndrome.
We’ll see which Wheeler we get tonight.
Oh, great. Why do I feel like a K is coming?
JEter are you serious?
ahh. there it is.
Great AB Jeter. GAG GAG GAG GAG GAG.
shocking.
JETER SERIOUS? cant even get 1 run?
How do you take that pitch? The ump has been calling it all night.
Oh. Because it is.
All those that wanted to bust on Jeter? NOW you may do so for check swinging balls right down the middle of the plate.
Terrible at bat. Swing the bat Jeter.
I’m really impressed with Pena. So he’s had a couple errors at 3rd, some that are pretty unexcused even given that he isn’t a 3rd baseman by trade. He’s also flashed some nice leather from time to time, and this kid (that everyone said was going to be overmatched in the bigs) is actually getting some hits. Sure, he isn’t A-rod, and pitchers aren’t really afraid of what Pena can do to them… but he still impresses me nonetheless. He has actually stepped up a bit to try to fill his role.
man how can he just take a pitch like that..jeez derek of all the ppl
never thought i would admit this, but i miss a-rod.
Damon 3 run home run. Im callin it.
The ump’s had a fat strikezone all night. You can’t take that pitch with 2 strikes.
Jeter looked just awful in that at bat.
If they dont score in this inning, i am going to go insane!!!
Now even Jeter can’t get clutch hits
This team is toast. Come back next year, maybe then this team will have heart.
you should be protecting the plate there.. thats a bad out by jeter, cant wait for damon to pop out.
jeter with a horrible at bat.
puzzling.
Damon this game is in your hands
ofcourse great time to take a pitch.
Captain unclutch
Brian -
BIG time.
can we get damon to walk so we can see Tex strike out again
Take the bat off your shoulder. The pitch was too close to take.
damon will walk and then Tex will hit an HR.
(I can dream, can’t I?)
This team sucks so bleeping hard. They should be booed out of the stadium, every single one of them. Yet another pathetic at-bat and failure to even put the bat on the ball with a runner on third and less than two outs. Amazingly disgusting. This team bloooooooows!
Now would be a nice time for an upperdecker in left field.
We didn’t hit this guy at all last year. I’m not gonna be surprised if we don’t do it here. I mean, it’d be nice, but I’m not getting my hopes up.
Just give Texiera a chance Johnny…
I’d love Damon to get on just so I can watch Tex fail again.
They are really going threw the motions. Including captain great who no one is allowed to talk bad about. The Yanks know that they are calling pitches off the plate strikes..Atleast make contact, swing the bat, you can’t take that pitch.
I think Derek froze at the plate because there was nobody on first for him to double up.
pitching around damon to get to tex. insulting.
indeed trisha lol. we all better hope that damon does something magical, because that giant waste of money is up next.
Prediction… Damon walks, Tex with bases loaded
here we go
*hey!*
How did AJ look tonight?
Boy can Joe Girardi motivate a team, or what!
Ayyyy, Petey boy??? You there??? Wanna defend Joe Girardi some more???
They really came out with their pants on fire tonight!
Lets go tex lets go. Its all on you.
come on Tex…this could be your Yankee moment
here comes a tex message
“Damon 3 run home run. Im callin it.”
not quite, carl, but I appreciate your calling something besides a loss!
Come On TEXXXXXXXX…..This is your Giambi Moment!!!!!
now would be a good time to hit Tex..oh god let this guy get a hit..
GODDAMMIT! guarantee teixeira grounds into a dp.
cmon tex!!!!! please do something
oh man this is tex’s’ giambi’s homer in the rain’ moment
Lets just hope Teixiera doesn’t swing for the fences like he did Monday against Paplebon.
Grand Salami. It must happen. It has been written in prophecy.
Huge moment for Tex. With one swing he can become the new Tino Martinez…with a K or popout he might become the new Arod.
Bottom of the 14th against Minny – that was the Giambi game
How did I know the Giambi tape was coming on?
pop up to right?
Trisha,
AJ was really good. K’ed 8, walked 1. The runs he gave up were fundamental baseball. He didn’t give up the 2nd and 3rd runs until he was over 100 pitches. He looked really sharp tonight. Probably his second or third best start for us.
Sheesh, Bruney – how stupid was this guy?
http://newyork.yankees.mlb.com.....p;c_id=nyy
At some point during Spring Training, Brian Bruney began to realize that with every pitch he threw, he was risking “blowing a ligament and being out a year and a half.” He felt pain in his right elbow with each and every toss, yet he ignored it.
tommyfusco, i was thinking the same thing.
remember when the rays sucked
& I was more worried about facing Garza. This guy pitched one hell of a game. Give credit where credit is due.
Texas fans on message boards have said that Mark never comes through with men on base or pressure situations and that he will drive Yankee fans crazy because of it. Let’s see how he does here.
Lets GO MARKY T!!!
And of course, Tex is swinging for the fences. Good lord, this is depressing.
and the heavens open
need a GS since the game will be called after that.
Wow its raining hard.
I’d rather have Ramiro Pena up right now instead of Tex the rally killer
how bout a walk to get matsui up?
Tex is a waste of time right now…
L O S T is currently on a commercial right now. How convenient. I get to watch Mark Teixeira either get cheered tremendously or jeered tremendously.
YES!!!
YES!!!!!!!!!!
nice
TEX MESSAGE HAHAH!!!
YES !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
TEX DOES IT I CAN’T EFFING BELIEVE IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111111111111111111
TEX!
wahooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!! thank GOD
f-in AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Finally.
Wooooooooooooooooooooooooo Hooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!
Close Enough
LOL !! Go TEX!!!
Amen.
WELL! IT’S ABOUT TIME! THERE IT IS!
tex yankee mment take 19
take successful
Everyone on board the Mark Texiera bandwagon immediately!!!!!!!!
THAT’S more like it, and completely necessary, because they are SO going to suspend this game. Without that, we may have been looking at a loss because of rain.
The Joy of Tex.
exorcism.
Tex finally comes through so we can win.
There you go, *baseball fans*, that’s why you keep watching the games! Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose, but these are the exciting moments we wait for and hope for.
Thank you, Tex!
Wait, I thought the game was over and the Yankees had no chance?
Donnie – thanks!!!!!
God – thanks!!!!!
YANKEES – THANKS!!!!!
TEX – THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU!!!!!
Can we call this Tex’s defining moment? It is for me.
YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
HOW DOES IT FEEL SONNENSTINE?!
TO PITCH YOUR BEST AND HAVE YOUR BULLPEN BLOW IT?!
L O S T is on on. I’m out until 10:02
How is that for clutch? Yeah Tex!!!
dion james
May 6th, 2009 at 9:49 pm
can we get damon to walk so we can see Tex strike out again
spark
May 6th, 2009 at 9:50 pm
I’d love Damon to get on just so I can watch Tex fail again.
Sorry you didn’t get your wish. You must be really hurting now. Keep your chin up, maybe next time.
Ramiro Pena starts another rally.
Tex in the rain!!!!!!!!!
I get thanked in the same post as God and the Yankees.
Win or lose, it’s a good day for me! haha
Tampa BP reliably bad. YAY.
Mother nature is shocked that the Yanks actually scored runs…
yea the timing could not have been better. i don’t see them finishing tonight.
NICE!!! FINALLY
NICE!!! FINALLY
Um this game will be picked up tomorrow…
http://www.weather.com/maps/ne.....=news_maps
If the bat didn’t break would it have gone out?
C’mon, take away the Sox games and you gotta be pleased with this team this year.
Gotta get that bullpen fixed…….
If I was the PA guy I would have had the theme from The Natural ready to go just in case Tex launched one into the lights. That would have been cool.
Well it looks like he came through there, didn’t it??
well now it would be soulcrushing to lose.
Yes! and just when the rain comes they start to get going
It feels good not to lose.
Mark D,
I was just thinking that today. Without the Boston games, we’re 16-11. Take out the three Wang clunkers, when we had NO chance, and it’s 16-9. I can live with that, to be honest. I know all those loses count, but it at least makes me feel marginally better about the team.
“If the bat didn’t break would it have gone out?”
No it would have been an ou, either LD to Carl Crawford or a pop up.
Er, 16-8. My math, it is not good.
How huge does that Swisher ejection look?
Now we have Gardner-Cabrera-Pena-Molina at the bottom of the lineup.
Have to drive in Teix here and hope MO closes it out, otherwise this is going to be another heartbreaking loss in extras.
Where was he against the Sox?
Anyway so as I was channel surfing I noticed that the Sox were losing 9-2.
It’s completely unreasonable for me to have the music from “The Natural” in my head in the eighth inning of a tied game in the first week of May, but it sure is fun.
These Yanks are bullpen eaters. Perhaps not as deeply as necessary sometimes (like bases loaded, no runs in vs. Papelbon), but they’ve been using that ‘96 formula of solid starting pitching giving the bats a chance to dig out in the late innings, and finally the hitters are learning how to do it.
Finished watching LOST-game is all tied up? Nice!
Rain, not so nice
The sad part, Trisha? It’s 9-2, with Carl Pavano pitching. Where was that when WE had him?
can anyone tell me why the Patr iots fans chanted Yankees suck while in the crowd after their first Super Bowl victory? Somebody on here mentioned that. Was it because they were still looking at 3 or 4 more years of a self proclaimed curse in which they just were not good enough to ever win anything.
Why can’t the Yankees see how bad this bench is?? I don’t blame Cashman for going into the season with a weak bench because Swisher, Gardner, Molina, and Pena is good enough. When Nady got hurt, they needed another bat, especially because Pena and Berroa are guys you are going to need to pinch hit for in an important situation.
I understand they are going to send down Berroa when Rodriguez comes back on Friday, but they still need a guy that can come in and hit, especially now that Posada is out. Girardi has no one to pinch hit for Molina or Cervelli.
Bring up Duncan. Please.
is Tex on 2nd or 3rd if they resume play? Hopefully Godzilla can get a RBI to set up Mo to close it out, that would be a nice finish
gamecast showed the Swisher K outside by a bunch is that accurate??
Tex first big hit, hallelujah.
the Yaz poster is beyond obnoxious… jeez.. sux lost to Pavano tonight, WOW
is Pavano in contention for a CY Young?
Flipping around, I see the trailer for that new Terminator movie. It looks pretty good.
This is why all the whining, moaning, and dirt kicking fair weather Yankee “fans” don’t understand a thing about this game.
This team is far from perfect but they are a resilient bunch.
Virtually everything has gone wrong this season and they are still at .500 with A-Rod about to return this weekend.
The rotation will start to roll sooner or later. Joba is about to go on a roll and Sabathia is headed that way as well.
Burnett was good tonight but all those strikeouts do catch up to him because of pitch counts.
They’ll get it going. Once the rotation starts to roll, everything else will fall into place – the offense won’t have to score as many runs and the bullpen won’t have to pitch as many innings.
Hopefully, the fair weather Yankee “fans” will just jump off the bridge and get their lives over with so the smart baseball fans can actually discuss the action without being forced to read so much idiotic nonsense.
I assume on friday they send down berroa call up a bat and then send down a pitcher for arod.. they have to do that……….
Tarp is coming off.
texiera’s batting average up to 211…..he is en fuego…
I hate to say it but when was the last time that Mo has pitched?! It seems like a long time ago and he might be rusty tonight. Girardi needs to get him more innings even in blow outs so he will be sharp.
guissepe franco with some words of wisdom. nice.
this site needs some perspective….
How come no one has mentioned that tonight is Jeter’s 2000th career game?
i’ll answer my own question, because it’s his 2012th. it’s his 2000th IN THE FIELD.
I assume on friday they send down berroa call up a bat and then send down a pitcher for arod.. they have to do that.
who do you think is the better call up..duncan or miranda?
Co-nominee for clutch performance of the night: Edwar striking out Pena and Burrell with Crawford on 3rd and overcoming the leadoff infield single. Saved the game, so far.
Giuseppe Franco, pitching and hitters go through slumps, that’s to be expected during a season. But there is no excuse for the Yankees lack of fundamentals and intensity. When a team makes errors like the Yankees have made during the first month of the season that’s unacceptable. It’s one thing to lose some games on tough luck but it’s another to lose so consistently on mental mistakes. The championship Yankee teams didn’t hit much more than these Yankees did in the first month of the year – what they did is they played fundamental baseball. They never gave 4 outs in an inning and when they were given 4 outs they almost always made the other team pay.
Just when the Yanks get a rally going, it rains……
Donnie, I’m convinced that certain players when they play in the Bronx turn into the Witch in the Wizard of Oz after Dorothy throws water on her. Then later on Dorothy clicks her heels three times and sends them somewhere else – and they’re good as new.
miranda
Dee I have no idea since I never see these guys play but Pena is the utility guy, cerevelli backup catcher and garnde for the OF. I call up a OF for sure I am not sure if it is the guy from the bronx or duncan but they need a bat to pinch hit for Molina and other stuff…
“can anyone tell me why the Patr iots fans chanted Yankees suck while in the crowd after their first Super Bowl victory? Somebody on here mentioned that. Was it because they were still looking at 3 or 4 more years of a self proclaimed curse in which they just were not good enough to ever win anything”
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I lived in Boston from 03 – 08( college). Let me just tell you, they cheer Yankees Suck for everything!!! I’ve heard it every time the Pats won the super bowl, any concert held in either Fenway or the Fleet Center( or whatever its new name is)…Its absurd.
Guiseppe–
Most of the posters you are referring to are either children or frontrunners. It’s ok to be critical of the weaknesses though, which is what management should be doing, and try to fix it.
Why does girardi not want to say friday for arod? I dont understand what that accomplishes. Does he not want to be wrong or does it have something to do with that book or something else? I dont get it.
Duncan is off the 40 man roster. I’m not sure about Miranda. We need a bat coming off the bench, obviously. His errors notwithstanding, I hope they keep Pena and send Berroa down.
I finally sit teixeira on my fantasy team for the first time this season and he comes through. Should i sit him every day? I played him when he hit those two homers tho.
i agree that we need another bad. but i am a little concerned with cervelli as our backup catcher right now. i wish something could be done about that. but very excited about the arod return!
The Ghost is spot on.
Pavano shut down the Sox tonight. Sox lose 9-2
ghost with the fatal mistake by using the nonsense intensity BS. How can you tell when someone is intense? In your book are they allowed to laugh? Can they smile? If there jersey is not dirty does that mean they are not trying?
ALso the Yankees fielding is not bad look at the stats it will not kill you to look things up before you speak unless you want to just give the usual uninformed, emotional, factually false opinion..
YOUR CALL…
Carl pavano won tonight and is 2 and 3 on the season. Is he doing to win more games for the indians this season than he won for us in four years? What a piece of $h!t
ALERT—
Check out SJ44’s opinions when he comes by later. He hasn’t been himself lately, anyone else notice this? Seems like an imposter is in the midst.
I think tex hit was the first time in almost four games that we we hit with RISP.
“UPDATE, 10:16 p.m.: Next pitch at 10:25 p.m.”
Is this inside information or did the Yanks make an announcement?
Just curious.
Pavano should still play to win. He may have cheated the Yanks, but he clearly wants to play.
“i agree that we need another bad. but i am a little concerned with cervelli as our backup catcher right now. i wish something could be done about that. but very excited about the arod return!”
I still think they should bring up catcher Kevin Cash when he comes off the DL which should be close. Hes got some experience under his belt.
in search of O NEIL,
I know he has been horribly negative. His comments are depressing just because i know how he used to be. Maybe it isnt him I dunno.
Ghost–
Sounds like old school vs new school. Don’t let Stuart get you down. Old school’s got your back.
Now Gardner up instead of Swisher…
there is no one in that stadium
“In Search of O’Neill May 6th, 2009 at 10:20 pm
ALERT—-
Check out SJ44’s opinions when he comes by later. He hasn’t been himself lately, anyone else notice this? Seems like an imposter is in the midst.”
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True but are you really you?
dave–
good call.
Trisha, I enjoy the Wizard of Oz analogy immensely. A winner is you tonight. haha
Also, the idea of throwing water on Carl Pavano, and having it be result in a mortal injury…well…how far from the truth is that, really?
I was looking at Pete’s list of Madonna bangs and I find it strange that Canseco is not on it and the pride of the Rangers
Mark Messier is absent also…. weak attempt Pete …. wiki …figures…never trust it!
Trisha.
How did things go at the office this AM?
-dennis
Bronx Jeers
Always have been. Can’t help myself, I’m the real deal.
If we don’t score in this inning, we won’t score in the 9th.
Hopefully it doesn’t take another 8 innings to score another run…
jonny D,
Suuure. Now, he wants to play. Where was that desire for four years??
Well…that certainly was a bad at bat.
I hope the 2400 or so at the stadium know how important this game is for this team, at this time, and get back to their seats… This team needs whatever energy they can get from the stands.. We end up losing this one, not sure this team has the fortitude to bounce back…
Anti-climax. Matsui fans. Boo.
what a horrible AB…his fastball is 80? comeon
Come on yankees lets get something going here. Dont blow it
randy l.
May 6th, 2009 at 9:48 pm
jeter with a horrible at bat.
puzzling.
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Matsui , Cabrera, Gardner (6 at bats) and Pena are the only Yankees hitting over .300 in May. Two of them are under .200 including Cano and Jeter as was Teixeira until tonight. That explains more than a few of the loses.
even mo has been “shaky” this year so far..he mite have to go 2 innings today he hasnt pitched in a week
Anyone else worried that Mo hasn’t pitched in a week and he has probably had to warm up a few times because of the rain delay?
Hopefully he’s got his good command.
The rain loosened Tex up.
It’s as if Matsui wanted to end the 8th as quickly as possible. Maybe we can get a walk-off win. It’ll be a good morale booster.
If anybody gives Rivera problems in this inning, it’ll be Crawford.
He hasn’t pitched in 6 days?!! Ouch.. Mo pretend that the Yanks have a lead and not that the game is tied.
age is startin to definetly show on mo…the speed just isn’t there on the cutter as it even was last year
BTW GHOST and the other ill informed was Matsui giving the effort there?
Looks like he was not giving it his all!!!SOunds stupid.. True just like your effort drivel.
total nonsense
Damn it, Crawford makes that play.
Is it soaking wet in front of the plate or is it my tv? Damon does stink out there.
Darnit. He had it.
Gotta make that play
It sounds like there are 500 people at the stadium
Another play that Damon doesn’t make..That has to be caught. He has been horrible in the outfield..and that is being nice…
dialed it up to 93 there
Mo needs to pitch more. Pitching every 5 or 6 days is not going to keep him sharp.
Ghost,
Even though we lost a lot of games we have made errors in, I dont think the errors are the problem. Every team makes errors – your telling me the yanks didnt make errors between 96 and 2000? I remember knoblauch couldnt even throw from second to first at one point. The yanks are losing now because of lack of quality pitching and/or lack of clutch hitting. Thas the major reason, not errors or fundamental play. Intensity is not even involved for me – when a team is winning, they look like they are intense and when they lose, they like sluggish and apathetic. It doesnt mean they just stop caring. It means they are frustrated.
Vintage Mo.
Please that was a strike
Please that was a strike
Dan Geise-o-matic on the mound for the A’s.
Upton’s arguing balls and strikes, but he’s not getting tossed? But Swish was tossed after two words?
This is just absolutely unreal, and really speaks to downright AWFUL job this crew has done. I hate the term “unfair”, but if the shoe fits…
wow – A MANAGER is arguing balls and strikes and the ump doesnt throw him out while he is walking out of the dugout or at all. What a concept? And that was a strike unlike when girardi argued AND meals was a joke the entire game
Is it me or are the yanks getting a little biased umping decisions right now. It seems like they are getting the crappy end of all the umping calls that are similar.
Trenton wins first game 10-8. second game of double header rained out.
dave
at least you have a nicer way of putting things unlike stuart.
Wow his ball is moving!
What did swish say that neither upton nor crawford said.
Giuseppe Franco, pitching and hitters go through slumps, that’s to be expected during a season. But there is no excuse for the Yankees lack of fundamentals and intensity. When a team makes errors like the Yankees have made during the first month of the season that’s unacceptable. It’s one thing to lose some games on tough luck but it’s another to lose so consistently on mental mistakes. The championship Yankee teams didn’t hit much more than these Yankees did in the first month of the year – what they did is they played fundamental baseball. They never gave 4 outs in an inning and when they were given 4 outs they almost always made the other team pay.
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Here’s the thing that I think you overlook.
Those Yankee championship ball clubs were far from perfect teams. What they had was outstanding starting pitching and that was the backbone of those teams.
You think O’Neill, Martinez, Bernie, or Brosius never had stretches where they looked really bad and went through horrific slumps?
I can assure you they did. They went through horrible stretches too – but people don’t remember that daily grind because they finished the season as the last team standing.
That’s what happens with this current squad. They are always compared to the dynasty teams and that’s pretty unfair considering both the division and league is considerably better than what those dynasty teams had to deal with on a daily basis.
The stars were aligned in those days. They had a run like no other organization has had in the last 40 years. It will probably not happen again – at least not anytime soon.
Paul O’Neill kicking water coolers didn’t help him hit when he slumped or help him play better defense when he botched one in the field.
This isn’t football. Chemistry and intensity is overrated. Sometimes it’s better when the player doesn’t think at all and blocks out all of the distractions.
“Also, the idea of throwing water on Carl Pavano, and having it be result in a mortal injury…well…how far from the truth is that, really?”
LMAO!!!!!
Dennis, thanks for asking. It was pretty strange. My boss wanted to meet with me and I will say that they did ask me to reconsider and tried to fashion certain situations that supposedly answered my concerns. Except they didn’t. They asked me if I wanted to think about it for 24 more hours but I didn’t see any way out. So I signed the official paper. My boss even asked at that point if she should wait 24 hours to submit it in case I changed my mind. But I told her to just go ahead and submit it. So now it is as official as official can be. That and I emailed a lot of people at work to let them know and was pretty upfront about why I was leaving. I’m sure that isn’t going to get me a lot of friends in high places there!
But it’s done and I feel good that I stuck to my principles. The truth is that if I were someone who could just go and twiddle my thumbs and not feel like I was stealing my money, I could easily do it with their new set up. But that’s not who I am. If I don’t think my situation is optimal to do my job right and help the people I was hired to help, I don’t want to be there.
stuart thinks he needs to insult someone to get his point across. But at least he is consistent i guess. Pay it no mind.
OK now for a run
haa welcome to MO city
dave- The “F” word. Said, “you have to be “fin” kidding me.
Gotta score here. I don’t want Mo to have to work a second inning. Though at this point, it’s not like we’re using him more than once a week, so why the heck not?
Mo is old. His cutter isn’t cuttin. He struck out the side.
Oh what is the matter with Mooooooooooo?
Have we seen the decline of Moooooooooo?
Poor us, we lost our Mooooooooooooooooo.
Mo and Molina are a deadly match when it comes to called strikes.
Btw, how funny is it that Molina gets all pumped up and Mo just walks off the mound with no expression on his face?
Good job my Rivera there
I like how he went inside on Longoria. He should do that more often to get righties off the plate a little more.
He had some nice cut in that inning. It was definitely good to see!! Here comes Cano and then the garbage…The next 2 innings are going to be tough with the bottom of the lineup coming up.
“What did swish say that neither upton nor crawford said.”
Usually Millard Fillmore is an auto-magic ejection. The magic words.
Walk off blast please.
Yes MO!! Now let’s get a clutch hit and win this game in the bottom of the ninth. I blogged today about how this team has no toughness and fight in them after two sweeps by boston. If they can pull out this win then they will completely shove it in my face cause this would be an amazing win!
Dave I still ike you. also your 10:34 comment was totally accurate maybe these yoyo’s will figure it out before there 18th birthdays.
good pitching and clutch hitting has been lacking not lack of effort or someother touchy feely BS.
Dave these guys are thick in the head they will not figure it out…
Dave, on an intense team Damon makes that play just now in left. It’s not the physical errors that concern me as much as the mental errors that don’t make it to the scorebook. It’s Pena not knowing to let the ball roll foul – these errors become the difference between winning and losing. You can buy and All-Star at every position – and the Yankees have basically done that – and you will still lose unless there is a team-wide intensity that forces each player to make themselves as prepared (mentally and physically) as possible on every pitch. That means doing the little things like moving runners over, taking the extra base and backing up a routine play. I’m not sure if that comes from the manager or from the veterans but it has to come from somewhere.
Can Arod pich hit tonite? Is he ready?
Mo should stay in the dugout the whole game.
can we bunt him over?
Rivera is getting jacked up we need this
Gardner, Melky, Pena, and Molina?
Yikes. Onto the 10th we go
If you thought they were swinging for the fences uptill now, watch the swings here in the bottom of the 9th.
Gardner, an excellent bunter? Huh?
Would that were true!
C’mon Gardie, lay one down.
For Charleston, DJ Mitchell was outstanding but is losing 3-1 on two unearned runs, and the error wasn’t angelini, who also had a hit….really slumping.
Mitchell’s line:
7.0 innings, 7 hits, 3 runs, 1 earned runs, 2 walks, 8 strikeouts, 0 HRA, WP 1, 1.95 ERA
Mesa was 1-4 with a run scored and a steal. Adamas, Baisley and Lyons all had a hit and hitting well over .300.
Yelling with the gum showing. I love it.
he needs to bunt or slap the ball on the ground..
gardner needs to swing at the 1st pitch if it is a strike..
What is Girardi doing?!! No bunt??! This is a joke..
They’ll walk Cabrera.
Well done! Too bad he can’t now pinch run for Robi.
Mariano looks like Shelly Duncan with his emotion LOL
Oh this is too good to be true.
leadoff single…gardner bunt and a single…that is the winning formula
Gardner should never swing the bat again, its just embarrassing. Bunting for you, Brett!
Melky needs to come up big here, this would be a huge comeback
ok man on 2nd….lets get a single!!!!
That was weird…Melky and Pena coming up…Hopefully one of them can come threw here..
7-0 Blue Jays over Angels. In the 2nd inning. Halladay pitching.
Only logical to walk Melky and try and get out Molina and Pena.
Such is the life of a depleted lineup.
The Blue Jays are up 7-0 in the second. Against the Angels. Who are supposedly a good team.
Um…So…maybe they’re for real? Which is shocking because on paper, they should be near the bottom of all of baseball. But they just keep winning. Like John Sterling says, you just can’t figure baseball.
Melky better come through
My Last Words Tonite– Don’t underestimate Molina’s clutch.
“Can Arod pich hit tonite? Is he ready?”
Maybe he can re-introduce himself a-la Clemens.
“I’ll be talkin with youall real soon”
Cano can run. He’s just not a base stealer. Although on a short single, Gardner’s probably the only one that could score on a hit like that.
Just cracked my first Dogfish Head. Still feeling the good vibes from Teix’s big hit. LET’S GO MELKY! DELIVER!
Melky swinging for the fences…Please get a hit here..
Come on Melky. Win the game right here and you can go home and party with your buddy, Cano.
They’re pitching to him. Behind 0-2. Work backwards.
What the heck is up with the Jays? How many games have they played within the AL East?
Cano needs to steal 3rd
Why is Melky swinging at first pitches? Does he know it takes 3 strikes, not 1, to be called out?
The Blue Jays disappointed last year, but I think they are a good team. I do not think thhey can hang with the Yanks and RedSox all year
Trisha.
Good for you. I hope you are at peace with the decision. It is more important than baseball posts IMO. I felt for you this AM as I bet you were nervous going into work and it must have felt surreal.
GB7 posted a story from MLB.com that also puts games in perspective. (Norton story) Thanks GB7 for posting that.
-dennis
He has no incentive to throw a strike here.
I think that was Nelsons intention
gHOST
You might be right in some contexts but that is not the major problem the last few years. The yanks wont all of a sudden be a championship team last year if they had a little more intensity. Its pitching and hitting with RISP that are crucial to winning championships. The team FINALLY has some quality starting pitching like they did in 2000. Look at the rotation then. That was the last time we had a really quality rotation until now. And that was our last championship. That is no coincidence. Intensity may let a team win one or a few more games but it is not the crucial factor that pitching and clutch hitting is at all.
Lets go Ramiro you started this comeback , you end it.
u know i think we need to be more agressive running..cause i mean if evan longoria and bob abreu can steal on us…i m sure cano can steal a bag or 2
Way to work that walk come on kid
Well it is up to Pena. get it done here.
Cbeck- I thought the Jays would be better last year. I never thought they’d do as well as they are this year.
Double steal? or utterly insane?
It’s Pena time!
They probably should have walked Melky anyway, surprised he even decided to pitch to him.
Pena is gonna do it.
Not that they mind walking Melky there..Pena and Molina dont exactly scare you here.
C’mon Pena.
Toronto will come back down to earth.
Outside of three games with Baltimore, they haven’t played anybody else in the AL East.
Hard to compliment Melky on his patience when those pitches were closer to the old stadium’s plate. Let’s go Pena! I’ll crack another if we win.
jennifer
May 6th, 2009 at 10:49 pm
What the heck is up with the Jays? How many games have they played within the AL East?
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That’s about to end. They have about a month and a half of the East starting next week.
melk walks….pena can have a chance to be a hero once last time before AROD is back
Another low pitch called a strike..
Should have pinch hit with the snr. citizen
I think everyones overrating the Jays. They havent played us or the RS yet. Not even 1 game. Also, do you guys remember the Orioles back in 2005 when they wouldnt go away until like June? Sometimes bad teams stay close for a while. Sometimes they never go away. The Jays arent this good. The Rays, last year, were. What is good for the Jays though, is them being so good, jacks the price of Halladay way up at the deadline
The Jays have been handed just as many injuries as the Yankees, if not more. I mean come on, their starting rotation is basically Roy Halladay and a bunch of rookies, and they still are coming together and winning. Plus Aaron Hill and Adam Lind have been beasts lately.
I wrote an entry on my blog about starter Scott Richmond. He is someone you should all check out.
He was safe !
Tie goes to the runner, well apparently not when you have an NY.
It’s Molina time! Send ‘em home, Jose!
Bad call.
That’s the only trouble w/giving away an out. It comes down to Jose.
C’mon Jose, give the BP a rest.
Pena was safe. Umps have sucked. Lol, Mo uncoiling on that call.
Pinch hit CC!!!!!!!
He was safe…Ofcourse Girardi doesnt say anything. What in the world did he swing at anyway??
BAD call…Very close, but he was safe. But when you’re playing as bad as we’ve been, and it’s Evan Longoria making the throw, they’re going to get the call every time.
whats the point of instant friggen replay if its never used?
I guess only the Rays are allowed to be fast
this umpiring crew has been awful
He was safe, safe safe safe. What the hell was that ump looking at
replay showed Pena was safe at first…
these umps stink
Why is Mo the only one into this game? Someone needs to hand some beers out to these lifeless Yankees.
lol you think this sad Yankees team can beat the Jays? Please. They have been throwing nobodies out there with just as many injuries and have been winning. So when do you say they are for real? Based on the series against the Yankees?
Wow Mo is fired up. It’s too bad that someone with his enthusiasm for winning doesn’t get to sit in the dugout with the rest of the team, who could probably take a lead from him.
he is safeeeeeeee
Why is Maddon trying to mix and match with Melky, Pena, and Molina due up? He removed Shouse, now he removes Nelson
“Should have pinch hit with the snr. citizen”
No way Pena was the one who got it started and he missed cracking a LD on the pitch before. Right guy was up.
Never mind, he was outright safe. Anyone shocked the umps get it wrong?
I HATE to say it but bad call after bad f’in call for the yanks. Can we get a damn break? These umps need to retire- they are inconsistent and blind!!!
Banger at first….Safe . blown call
I still hope they lose. And I’m a Yankee fan.
Now would be a time where you could pinch hit with duncan if we had him.
There is an irony in the fact that, in the first year that “Big Brother: Umpire Edition” has been put in every stadium, the quality of umpiring has deteriorated, as far as I can see. Strike zones are all over the map, and bang-bang plays are getting missed left and right
MO looks so out of place. Everyone else looks disinterested and he is basically playing the role of Nick Swisher lol
what the heck is maddon doing? Is he trying to get another rain delay or something.
I think MLB should send this weeks umpires to get there eyes checked…Way too many bad calls and strike calls.
MLB umps must all hate the Yankees. Never seen a team get scrwed on so many calls.
Molina will do it
Hopefully, the division leaders get beat on the Coast tonight.
I understand that it was close and the ump is only human, but what happend to the rule that a tie goes to the runner?
Joe Maddon has very little respect for the Yankee bullpen as he is using relievers liberly not saving them for later innings. He knows that once Mo is out the game is his.
Just key in on the fastball Molina. That is his only pitch it seems
Molina has no chance against a fireballer like Balfour
This is what kills me about Girardi and what I hated about Torre. Everything is station to station. What is wrong with trying to steal a base or at least a hit and run just to get the pitcher thinking? I thought Girardi was going to bring some of that national league style of play that Torre had long ago forgot to play but it’s the same old station to station, 3 hits and one run.
Toronto is up by a million right now.
Jose with the windmill swing there. Down 0-2.
just a dunk, jose
pasqua
Yea and the yanks are getting the worst part of every single call so far. GREAT
This guy has put 18 men on base in 9 innings. Why did it have to be Panda up to bat?
bonus cantos
laaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaame
Ugh we get no luck. If it was TB it would of dunked in.
Damn, that call sort of screwed them.
this is why we need shelley duncan or juan miranda on our bench instead of angel berroa for a pinch hit chance
That might have been a game winning sac fly.
Mo not coming out for the 9th?
Here we go again. More BP strain.
was he safe? if yes how the hell did they miss it and di anyone dispute it?
thanks..
And that’s why replay is a joke.
Somebody want to explain to me how a ball just foul or not is more important than THAT call at first base?
BULL S!
That fly ball by molina should have won the game…. such BS…. if they go on to lose it will be cuz of a blown call at first base that goes against us yet again… absolutely sickening
Mariano will pitch two innings here and then not pitch for four days.
Ok, we got all the way through the bottom of the order with the overdue Capain to lead off the bottom of the 10th. I like our chances! Color me optimistic.
Umps here to win another game against us.
That would of helped to score the run from 3rd if the umpires can actually get a call right. What clown pitches the 10th? Girardi’s boyfriend Coke or Veras
Tex will take us home
i have a really bad feeling this isn’t going to end well. this team has a lot of fight, I just don’t think they’re very good right now.
Thats what happens when your GM is an inept fool. The roster spots he punts and depth he ignores are the guys who end up having to come thorough to win games for you in huge spots. FIRE THE BUM.
tex has a chance to do something again.
tex has a chance to do something again.
And, as usual, Joe Girardi is asleep at the wheel!
He was so safe!
Hate to say it, but that may have been the game right there. The bullpen has been good so far, which means they’re due to have one of them spit the bit, and blow it wide open.
Coke? Surprising.
When things are going bad, it never seems like you get the close calls.
Hard to blame the ump on the bang bang at first – we needed slow mo freeze frame.
I’m more concerned about the moving strike zones I’ve seen the last few games.
This just in: Scott Proctor may miss the season to get Tommy John surgery.
I’m dead serious.
The jokes just write themselves, folks.
i m tellin ya…he needs to u melancon and robertson..i havent seen em in forever
Mos arm must be tired from all the games he has been in lately. April wasnt THAT long ago.
Mo couldn’t go one more inning for WHAT reason?
He’s only had about a month off since his last appearance.
More genius from Girardi!
Uh oh, game ovah. Our bullpen othe then Mo is in.
NM lol
…… me
bullpen implosion again
Nice bullpen move.
Hi Coke. Thanks for coming. Get out.
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
LET THE SECOND GUESSING COMMENCE!
Mo can’t pitch 2 innings?
Thanks, Joe!
That was brilliant.
At least Mo is getting lots and lots and lots and lots of rest.
tHHHHHHHHHEEEEEEEEEE YANKEES SUCK!
GOOD NIGHT!
Like I said. Had to score there, and they didn’t. That’s ballgame.
Damnit.
this is a game the yankees win when arod comes back, scrubs at the bottom of the lineup will be different scrubs.
Since when can’t Rivera get out lefites. What a weird move.
shoulda had mo pitch to pena
I guess we had our chance.
I’m glad Girardi played that 9th inning so conservatively considering his bullpen has been lights out…
I kind of knew that was going to happen powerr hitter leading off and Coke is looking to just throw strikes.
I have no idea why Rivera wasn’t pitching to Pena. Rivera eats lefties for breakfast.
Coke is sh*t
The umpire and Coke blew it.
Unbelievable. I am in between tears and asphyxiating right now, leaning toward asphyxiating.
Anything that travels that far should have a stewardess on it.LOL.
At least the top of the lineup comes up the bottom half of the inning. For whatever it’s worth.
Hey Pete… Is it OK if we hold Girardi accountable for not using Mo for two innings when the guy hasn’t worked in the month???
Egads.
another great outing by the bullpen.
That didnt take long. The positives of tonight- for a short stretch, from the bottom of the 8th to the bottom of the 9th, we looked like a ML ballclub.
Molina should have had the game winning sac fly, that call was crap, and now Coke blew it.
Their losses become worse and worse.
pEL,
Yea except every comment before yours was prior to the homerun and they all said that girardi shoulda left mo in! So that is not second-guessing, its first guessing and its OBVIOUS. Mo hadnt pitched in like ten years before today. he couldnt go two?
Also seriously… it’s hard to bet against Coke cuz he’s been doing so good… but he hasn’t given up a run in like 9 appearances straight before this… i mean sometimes you’re just due to give up a run in some fashion…. maybe don’t use him in a tie game in the 10th…
Coke threw that pitch exactly where Molina called for it.
Pena just leaned over and hooked it.
Not a lot you can do about that.
i like when our pitchers shut down batters AFTER they do something detrimental to the teams chances of winning
Now we can win against Troy Percival.
Franco-Then Molina called a bad pitch.
Easy, Mo had shoulder surgery. It’s a long sseason.
We need offense.
1st HR of the night at the new park. Took till extras. I just hope the launching pad stays awake for the bottom half
Figures you throw a fastball down broadway to a hitter who is mostly a fastball hitter and has a lot of trouble with off speed pitches. I wonder if that had anything to do with Coke pitching 3 days in a row?! A blown call and then the clown bullpen attacks. Yanks just never learn and throw too many fastballs and miss there spots.
If Girardi sends Mo out for another inning and he gets hurt, everyone is saying the same crap they said about the Posada injury. Is he really that desperate to get a win? Mo is coming off shoulder surgery and pitching in crappy weather. What is Girardi thinking.
Coke has been going strong recently, but Pena is having a great season.
The top of the order is coming up. They only need to get 1 run, the Rays pen will be empty soon the way Maddon is making moves.
and forget THAT THE UMP DIDNT REALIZE the runner hit the bag first. We need slow motion replay to see that. BUT A TIE GOES TO THE RUNNER GENIUS. He was safe but to the moron ump who cant seem to make a decent call these days, he somehow looked out. If it was a tie, i can see it looking like he was out. But he was safe, it looked like a tie and the ump called him out. AND WE LOST THE GAME BECAUSE OF THAT CALL. WORST LUCK EVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
If they don’t pick up Coke I may need to pick up some heroin.
I was watching on gameday and could hardly believe it when I saw 4-3. This team is a joke, the entire pen sucks and Girardi should have let Mo go 2.