Game 28: Rays at Yankees (updates with A-Rod news: He’ll be back tomorrow)
Posted by: Peter Abraham - Posted in Misc on May 07, 2009 
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YANKEES (13-14)
Jeter SS
Damon LF
Teixeira 1B
Matsui 1B
Cano 2B
Swisher RF
Cabrera CF
Pena 3B
Molina C
Pitching: LHP Andy Pettitte (2-1, 3.82).
Notes: I’m off today in advance of the road trip. Thanks to Ernie Palladino for calling in the lineup. … The Yankees, who have lost four straight, have never lost five straight under Joe Girardi. … The Yankees trail the Jays by 5.5 games in the East and are 2-4 on the homestand that ends today.
UPDATE, 4:16 p.m.: Girardi just told the media that no decision has been made on A-Rod regarding his activation tomorrow. I have no idea why the Yankees play games like this. Alex shook hands with everybody in Tampa, thanked them for their assistance with rehab and then left. Where else is he going?
One way or another, it’s a pretty good bet that A-Rod will be playing third and batting fourth against the Orioles tomorrow night.
UPDATE, 5:01 p.m.: The Yankees just made it official: Alex will be back tomorrow.
UPDATE, 6:03 p.m.: This from Joe Girardi:
“Alex will be in Baltimore. Unless something happens overnight, we expect him to be in (the lineup). It’s great having your No. 4 hitter come back. In a sense, it’s like we just made a huge trade.”
Meanwhile, I see that people are debating whether Mariano should have pitched a second inning last night. The answer is no, I think. He is coming off surgery and he should not be abused in May. The last time they asked him for more than three outs, Jason Bay took him deep in Boston.
It’s not worth the risk on a cold night.
I still can’t get over the Manny on ‘roids story. How are the Red Sox apologists going to spin this? No evidence he did this while he was in Boston? Who actually buys this?
I love how quickly Peter Gammons came to Manny’s defense today, despite not knowing anything.
Let’s be aggressive.
BTW, hCG is ABSOLUTELY a steroid. That’s a scientific fact.
Enough about Manny. Who cares? He’s LA’s problem, not ours.
FWIW it’s been monsooning in the Bronx.
Though I can’t say a delay is a bad thing, I’m on page 3 of a 15 page paper due tomorrow…
(Don’t. go. to. grad. school)
HcG is not a steroid, from my understanding.
HOWEVER, it is a drug that is indicative of long-term steriod or PED use.
Either that, or Manny wants to get pregnant.
And knowing Manny, I’m not quite sure which to believe!
It’s going to be a little crowded over at first tonight, no?
Gammons’ defense of everything Boston has become a joke. Losing all credibility fast.
hCG is used to increase testosterone production from the testes to natural levels. bodybuilders use it after steroid cycles to get their hormonal systems back to normal
I’m sorry, but I’ve been a big Girardi guy, and we have to do something. I look at four people who lost yesterday’s game for us, in order here from most to least to blame:
1. The umpire. Pena was safe, you moron. That was the game there.
2. Phil Coke/Jose Molina. Phil Coke for making the pitch, and Jose for calling it.
3. Joe Girardi. Mo hasn’t pitched for like what, five days, and he was on fire! AND he owns lefties (he was a lefty, right?). Keep in Mo!
4. Texeira. Texeira. Texeira. What can you say? From hero to goat in two innings. Why couldn’t you just pop it into the outfield a little deeper?
Nothig you could do about the umpire, Tex for the most part had a pretty good game, and that was Coke’s first bad pitch in a while. Leaving us to Girardi. This is the second game (the other being vs. the Royals) I look at and say if it were managed better we would have won. I propose we get Sparky Lyle to manage the Yanks. Sparky manages a minor league team called the Somerset Patriots and has won four championships with them, including one on a walk off HR just last year. Why not try him out if they’re going to look? I know I’d love it, Sparky is the man!
Manny juiced? I’ve just cheered up big time. It’s like Christmas came early.
Dodgers are done.
You’re right, hCG is technically not a steroid, it’s a steroid amplifier (i.e., it increases levels of testosterone, which is a steroid).
Anyone know what the weather is in the Bronx/if they will get this game in? I’m on LI and it’s pouring – don’t relish taking the train and two subway rides for a futile cause……thanks!
Aunt Becca-Optimist Prime: Not a steroid, but a PED.
Source:
http://tw.sports.yahoo.com/art...../369b.html
Last paragraph:
It wasn’t until this period of rehab did Chien Ming Wang really understand, at beginning of the season, he was subconsciously afraid to use his right leg. For example, when he was pitching, he was afraid to push off the right leg. He has since regained confidence little by little. In CMW’s self-estimation, he’ll be 100% in a week. He hopes the week after that he’ll return to the big club to help.
Yes…. it is totally smart to make your 39 yr old closer coming off shoulder surgery, throw 35+ pitches on a cold, rainy May night.
This would have been debatable if he threw 8 pitches or something in the 9th. He threw 18 pitches.
Pena hit a good pitch off Coke. Good location, just a good piece of hitting. Same thing could have happened to MO.
Just win
Betsy-In Jersey, it’s bone dry. Maybe it’ll pass over here so they can play the game in the Bronx.
I’m surprised all of the Aroid apologists haven’t stuck up for Manny? Talk about a double standard lol. Manny and Aroid should have a cell together.
Does anyone know if the game tonight is still on schedule to take place?
lol matsui at 1B eh?
You don’t have Mo go an extra inning on a bad field in a May game.
He’s 39, coming off shoulder surgery, and the game was tied.
How did he do the last time they tried to get more than 3 outs from him?
That’s the wrong strategy on every level.
Coke threw a good pitch last night and Pena beat him. That’s baseball.
Get a big hit, and NOBODY is questioning using Mo more than one inning.
BTW, he threw 19 pitches in the 9th. Its not like he had an easy inning.
2-4 on the home stand…who would have guessed that.
I believe the Yankees will be competitive this year. Will that be good enough to make the playoffs? Maybe.
The good news is that I haven’t seen any team yet that is clearly head and shoulders above any other team.
The bad news is that there are a lot of teams that can field a competitive team on any given night.
The real problem in my opinion is that this team will have lots of holes to fill in the next 1-3 years because of declining skills and age.
They have no sure fire can’t miss prospects in the minors and their track record with signing fill in players is demonstrably weak.
They need to win this year or they need to find a new GM that can bring a fresh perspective to building a roster.
So who should get sent down tomorrow Berroa or Pena?
so ch 7 news just said heavy rains and winds tonight…whatever that means for the game
3-1 bottom of the 4th for Trenton lead. Fortenberry with sac fly and 22 year old catcher Jose Gil with RBI double.
Weather should be okay come game time. But you never know:
http://www.weather.com/outlook.....ink_sports
“I still can’t get over the Manny on ‘roids story. How are the Red Sox apologists going to spin this? No evidence he did this while he was in Boston? Who actually buys this?”
Who buys this? Sadly, the same people who believe Pettitte did it just once….I mean twice. Or that Rodriguez only used for three years in Texas. Red Sox apologists, Yankees aplogists, Bonds, McGwire and Sosa apolgists, etc. They’ve all got nothing. It was an era of cheaters and no teams thrived during that period than the Red Sox and the Yankees. Doesn’t take away the joy away from 4 World titles. Nothing will. But the whole era will carry some stigma.
“Anyone know what the weather is in the Bronx/if they will get this game in? I’m on LI and it’s pouring – don’t relish taking the train and two subway rides for a futile cause……thanks!”
Betsy … it is pouring out on Long Island right now … I know this team has messed the bed something fierce so far, but it would be nice to play one home game where it doesnt feel as though we need FEMA to step in with flood relief funds … so nice to know that the weather will be getting better AFTER the Yankees leave town
“2. Phil Coke/Jose Molina. Phil Coke for making the pitch, and Jose for calling it.”
Say what????? It was a very good pitch, tailing away, exactly what should have been thrown and was thrown. Pena just beat him. Plain and simple. No blame on Coke/Molina just credit to Pena.
Yeah Tantron, they can share a cell with your drug addicted hero Rush Limbaugh.
Funny, you don’t believe he should do time?
Check the statutes, OxyContin possession without a perscription, or with a phony perscription (as in Rush’s case) carries a greater criminal penalty than steroid use.
The Sawx are clearly better than the NYY. It will take a miracle for this team of underachievers to beat the Sawx this year especially when the intangibles of swagger, confidence and arrogance give the RS the advantage.
Bruce-He just struck out the last three batters and was absolutely owning the Rays hitters, and he hadn’t pitched in like five days! You act like it’s not debatable. It most definitely is. I’m not the only one thinking it. You want a name before you come out and ask “who”, Jane Heller, Confessions of a She fan.
As for Coke, if the pitch was good, bad call by Molina.
Tomorrow’s line-up:
SS Jeter
LF Damon
1B Teixeira
3B Rodriguez
DH Matsui
2B Cano
RF Swisher
CF Cabrera
C Molina
Arod really makes the lineup a whole lot better. Only 1 bad hitter.
How are Sox fans reacting you ask?? Well, here’s one of the best known and his reaction…..
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn.....ortCat=mlb
sadness.
rodg12-What that tells me is that whatever was thrown up there he would have hit out.
I don’t believe that, a better pitch could have been made.
the voice of yankee suniverse has some old yankee stadium demolition photos:
http://nyyankeesrumors.com/yan.....otos-5609/
rodg12
May 7th, 2009 at 4:03 pm
“2. Phil Coke/Jose Molina. Phil Coke for making the pitch, and Jose for calling it.”
Say what????? It was a very good pitch, tailing away, exactly what should have been thrown and was thrown. Pena just beat him. Plain and simple. No blame on Coke/Molina just credit to Pena.
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Don’t waste your time with that TeixeiraMVP guy. He ain’t the sharpest tool in the shed.
Even if Tomko comes up, what capacity do you expect him to pitch?
He has been TERRIBLE at the ML level in his entire career. Now he is going to come up here and save the pen? He is a 36 yr old journeyman who is taking advantage of AAA players.
And it’s not like something “clicked” when he moved to the pen this year… he has made more relief appearances in the last 3 years than he has starts. So he has been used as a reliever before and failed.
HCG has a medical use for men.
But if Manny was taking it for a legitimate medical problem, it would be easy enough to verify. One would guess he would defend himself rather than losing 8 mil and his legacy.
Even the Yankees don’t like new yankee stadium.
“As for Coke, if the pitch was good, bad call by Molina.”
Why? Why blame anyone? Why not just give credit to Pena? He hit a pitcher’s pitch for a HR. Give him credit. No need to blame anyone.
Absolutely don’t understand why anybody would be “giddy” about Ramirez. The only thing it really does for the Yanks and Rodriguez is take a liitle heat off…by some of the writers. Then, as you’ve already seen, some writers have seen the need to drag Rodriguez’ name into a story that has nothing to do with him.
Tantron Willoughby fights carbon cap tax-They’re better now. We’ll be better.
Based on all the dirt that’s thrown around, I will gladly forfeit the 2000 World Championship to the New York Mets if it means that the Red Sox’s 2004 and 2007 titles get wiped off the books.
Jon Heyman – “I’m not a sexual expert”
LOL
GreenBeret7-I hate Manny.
And it proves that, say, in 03 when we had the juicing Giambi the grounds were at least equal.
Tantron — There are no ARod apologists that I’ve seen here. Some of us do believe that this is an industry wide issue and forcing one guy to bear the brunt of criticism is wrong. I am in that group and we are again proven right by the Manny revelation.
Also, remember 103 players tested positive and only one was “outed”. Was Manny one of the other 102? If only Selena Roberts was around to give us more details…..
One more thing… Manny is using illegal PEDs six years into drug testing. That makes him worse than Alex or anyone else who has not tested positive since 2004.
Then you don’t know baseball. He threw the pitch EXACTLY where you have to pitch Pena. Pena just beat him.
That happens in baseball. Sometimes, good hitters hit good pitches out.
They can’t use Mo in multiple innings anymore. If he got hurt last night, you would be whining about why he used him.
They tried to squeeze more hitters out of him in Boston. How did that turn out?
He’s 39 years old and is coming off shoulder surgery. He threw 19 pitches in the 9th. Last night was the first night ALL year cutter had movement and more velocity.
So, you want to risk that in a tie game? That’s not how you run a team in baseball. Its how you run a team in a video game.
Girardi made the right moves last night. Next to Mo, Coke has been their best bullpen pitcher. They just didn’t work out.
hCG is not a steroid and couldnt even be considered a PED because it raises natural testosterone very slightly and is only useful if you have decreased testosterone production in the testes.
Manny’s Mangina-I wouldn’t.
Manny filed an appeal this morning…then dropped it and decided to take the suspension. Don’t you think if he was really taking it for “medical reasons” he would of went threw with the appeal atleast so he can try and explain himself? Unless ofcourse he is a woman…
I’ve been listening to sports radio today, and I’m SHOCKED at the reaction to Manny
Why are people acting like he is a cheater like A-Rod, Bonds, Clemens, McGuire etc.?
He took a female fertility drug at the advice of his doctors? How is this different than JC Romero?
I hate Manny, but he doesn’t deserve to be ripped like this. People saying he isin’t getting into the HOF now and he is tarnished? For taking a fertility drug, not a steroid?
“I don’t believe that, a better pitch could have been made.”
:rollseyes:
Sure is nice to be a 100% hind guesser huh????? It’s crap like this that feeds the crap sports talk radio shows and makes fans look stupid.
UM never lost five streight under joe torre? uh yea you are def. wrong Pete.
Bronx – youre right but not many other players got the “lets wait and see…” treatment from the media. this is definitely a case of people loving manny being manny, if this was any other player he’d be judged immediately as he should be considering the type of culture the sport has created.
oops you said girardi sorry, that is still surprising , that they didnt lose five straight last year.
shultis,
nobody would take hCG for no reason, it could signal he was trying to get back to normal after a steroid cycle.
I’m not even angry at Coke… he did exactly what I want him doing… attacking and making good pitches. Sometimes you’ll get beat. That’s baseball. But his approach is 100% right.
One of the only guys in the pen who can throws strikes and isin’t afraid to attack.
so mlb network cuts into Francona discussing Manny and all he is saying is “I can’t talk about it” over and over again
Thanks guys – hope I see a good (meaning a win!) game tonight!
If that was Veras… he would have walked Pena, given up a double to Burrell, walked Gross
Then Robertson would have come in and given up 3 runs
HCG is a gonadatropin
word of the day “gonadatropin”
Another day gone by without a call up for the bench. Pena and Molina get another chance to come up in the late innings with the tying or go ahead runs on base. I am so frustrated.
Do the Yanks think about the bench? Do they have management meetings where they discuss these things?
Does Girardi say, “I sure could use another bat on the bench?”
What would the response be? Let me imagine:
“Why don’t we send down Gardner or Berroa and bring up Stephen Jackson instead?”
“You wimp, what more could you want than Cervelli, Berroa and Gardner?”
“You need Robertson – he’s given you 2 and a third innings in the last 11 games.”
“We don’t want to give Miranda, JRod or Lindley a big head.”
“Bench? We don’t need no stinkin’ bench!”
I plainly am not front office material.
So who here doesn’t miss Bruney and (healthy) Marte?
SJ44-If you’re attacking, so am I.
I may not know everything about baseball like some people, but I know enough to see Mo was owning and Coke has been doing well and is inconsistent. I also know that yeah, he hit a good pitch, but the ball still had to be in a position were he could hit a HR. Obviously he guessed the location would be there. The idea is that the catcher needs to figure out what the batters’ guessing. Of course it doesn’t always work out or there’d never be HR’s. But it’s still a mistake.
Yeah, I’d risk it. It’s a big game, Mo was owning, and he hadn’t pitched in five days.
NO HYPE-Perhaps, but it does point out that he was juicing before that.
SJ, Save your breath…I mentioned the Coke pitch last night and it fell upon deaf ears so to say….That pitch was headed right to where Molina set up. and Pena was on it……Some just don’t understand the game…..
For taking a fertility drug, not a steroid?
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However, two sources told ESPN’s T.J. Quinn and Mark Fainaru-Wada that the drug used by Ramirez is HCG — human chorionic gonadotropin. HCG is a women’s fertility drug typically used by steroid users to restart their body’s natural testosterone production as they come off a steroid cycle. It is similar to Clomid, the drug Bonds, Giambi and others used as clients of BALCO.
rodg12-I said it yesterday during the game. I was amazed Mo came out.
Shultis — You have much to learn about PEDs my friend. HCG is commonly used by steroid users when they are between cycles to get their systems regulated with regards to testosterone production. IF Manny took this because of a non-steroid related testosterone production problem would he accept a 50-day suspension that is costing him $ 7 million?
Of course not.
clomid, nolvadex, hCG, tormafiene are all drugs used after steroid cycles
“Tantron Willoughby fights carbon cap tax”
you are the one person who would be improved if a troll impersonated you.
who gives a crap what you think about politics.
this is a baseball blog.
Pat M-Respond to me if you disagree, don’t make snide comments. And yes, I’m slightly annoyed.
Pena was right on it becaue he guessed the pitch. Of course it happens and that doesn’t make Molina a bad catcher, but it is still a mistake.
10 times out of 10 I throw Coke right back out there to face Peña.
9 times out of 10, Coke wins.
Peña was leading off the inning. The absolute WORST thing he could do was hit a solo HR. Unfortuantely, that’s what happened. Most of the time, however, it won’t.
SJ44 May 7th, 2009 at 4:03 pm
“Yeah Tantron, they can share a cell with your drug addicted hero Rush Limbaugh.
Funny, you don’t believe he should do time?
Check the statutes, OxyContin possession without a perscription, or with a phony perscription (as in Rush’s case) carries a greater criminal penalty than steroid use.”
Rush had a skeevy lawyer. You know the type?
steroids shouldn’t be illegal in the 1st place but i wont go there
They better win tonight and better play well. They better hit and the bullpen better get some outs
Aunt Becca-Optimist Prime: All right, but Mo was just owning. And he hadn’t pitched in five days. And as good as Coke was doing, he’s not Mo.
There are no “big” games in May.
He threw 19 pitches in that inning. That’s not “dealing”.
If you want the pitch in a location to where Pena can’t hit it, then its a ball. Do you want to challenge hitters or walk hitters?
Really, its nice that you are “ticked off” but honestly, learn a little about the game because the nonsense you spew makes no sense.
Question: How’d Rush Limbaugh get dragged into this?
Gotta back up SJ here….
I was all over Girardi for using Mo more than an inning in Boston when they blew that game.
Maybe in September when you are game back with ten to play you do it, but not in the first quarter of the season with a 39-year-old pitcher who is comingoff surgery.
It was not a “big game” in any way shape or form. Of course it could have been a better pitch by Coke, but it was not a hanger or a meatball… it was a good slider that wasn’t quite down enough or away enough. Stuff happens.
Cannot believe the lack of roster moves. At some point one of the Steinbrothers has to get on Cashman over that. There are mediocre RHP on the 40-man that are comlpetely paralyzing this roster.
How much should A-Rod actually play in Toronto? What with the artificial turf and all? Unless I’m wrong about the turf.
SJ44: What? After three losses in a row and getting swept by the Sox, it’s a big game.
He struck out the side. That is dealing.
When did I write ticked off?
86w183-I wasn’t over him for overusing Mo, I was all over him for sticking Mo in after a pitch had been made. Kind of odd. But I had no problem with it.
It was a big game. Okay, it’s not a season breker by any stretch, but on a losing streak and after getting swept, a win would have been huge.
TexieraMVP, I have to say, more times than not I agree with your opinion. In this case with Mo, he definitely should have pitched another inning last night. He hadn’t pitched in almost a week, every other arm in the pen is getting overused. Why waste another reliever? You have Mo pitch the 10th and give the team one more chance to win.
Keep fighting the good fight, just because someone writes louder than you or has more followers, doesn’t mean you are wrong.
$8mil is a lot of money, even to Manny. If he thought that he had a chance of beating this rap, he would have appealed. The fact that he is passing up the chance to appeal speaks volumes. An innocent man fights until his last breath. A guilty man takes his sentence and does his time.
Aunt Becca-Optimist Prime
May 7th, 2009 at 4:17 pm
10 times out of 10 I throw Coke right back out there to face Peña.
9 times out of 10, Coke wins.
Peña was leading off the inning. The absolute WORST thing he could do was hit a solo HR. Unfortuantely, that’s what happened. Most of the time, however, it won’t.
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That’s what Coke said last night. Without being obnoxious, he said he wasn’t tipping his hat to anybody, that he threw the pitch he wanted and where, He stated that he’d throw it again every time and get him out, that basically, there’s nothing to second guess and that he threw a pitch that got hit and it was his fault.
tantron willoughby-
are you afraid to debate baseball or you just into hit and run political comments that no one cares about.
i look at you as just another troll and probably a racist one at that by some of your past comments.
a-rod has to be careful with the rain
“Alex shook hands with everybody in Tampa, thanked them for their assistance with rehab and then left. Where else is he going?”
Probably to Baltimore’s best strip club.
I’m with SJ – Mo pitched an inning (in a tied game – exactly the type of thing we used to yell at Torre for not doing), then Girardi went with the guy who’s been his second best reliever. It didn’t work out. It’s not like Coke went out there and gave us a Veras-like blowout of an inning. He got burned for a run. It’s happened to every reliever in baseball.
If we would have driven some runners in off Rays pitching, this wouldn’t be an issue.
IMO, the Eckersley paradigm of the one inning closer will turn out to be a dead end strategy and historical oddity.
People will think there was a momentary societal madness which caused teams to use their best reliever only 65-70 innings a year and not necessarily in the most crucial, high leverage moment on the game.
However, last night, still early in the season, in the rain and cold, was not the time for Mo to pitch more than an inning.
Jeff NJ-LOL, thanks.
As it is, I don’t always disagree with SJ and some of the others, in fact I agree more often than not, it’s just that it seems to me if I post a comment and they disagree they have to insult me.
And to SJ and others: I don’t really dislike you guys or you’re posts, but could you stop questioning my baseball knowledge when you disagree?
Coke himself in the post game said he had absolutely no regrets about the pitch, it was exactly what he wanted to throw and where he wanted to throw it. The guy just hit it. He also said if he throws that pitch tonight, he would bet Pena would not hit it. Confident guy. I like it. (Also, really did not want to tip his hat to anyone! – I know we like this here at Lohud.)
And why would anyone cite Jane Heller? Yes, she wrote Confessions of a She-Fan. Operative word – FAN. She is a novelist. She was fortunate enough to get to follow the team around and write of her experiences. (Very good book, by the way.) But she is a fan not an expert; no more an expert that many other dedicated fans. It’s her opinion, no more, no less. Like anyone else’s opinion here.
GB: Then I’m glad Coke and I think alike.
Trenton leads in the bottom of the 6th inning, 3-1.
Fortenberry has a hit and Jose Gil is 2-2.
Horne’s line:
5.0 innings, 3 hits, 1 run, 1 earned run, 3 walks, 3 strikeouts, 0 HRA, 4.15
“However, last night, still early in the season, in the rain and cold, was not the time for Mo to pitch more than an inning.”
I agree. May 6th is not crunch time. August 6th? Sure. But not last night.
I still like Coke. But Pena hit the game winning HR off him, an undisputable fact.
Teixeiramvp (JobaCyYoung)-
that poster has been making snide right wing political statements for awhile and i think sj44 and i both are probably in no mood for his BS.
Mo is 39 years old and is coming off shoulder surgery.
The field was a mess and it was a tie game.
Its also May. No, its not a “big” game in May. There are now “big” games when there is 135 games remaining in the season.
You don’t risk Mariano Rivera in that situation.
Especially after a 19 pitch, a lot for Mo, inning.
It makes no baseball sense. It may make sense to video game players and emotional bloggers but, to people who know and understand the game, last night was not a situation to use Mariano Rivera for 2 innings.
So when is the last time the sun came out?
Has to be almost 2 weeks ago in Boston.
I don’t have a problem with Coke, he’s good, he threw a good pitch, but he got beat, it happens.
By the way, Torre would always use Mo for two innings there. Where he wouldn’t use him was on the road in a tie game because there is a possible save situation. At home tied in the ninth, there is no save situation.
Doreen-I’m citing her not as a source of knowledge, just as a way to say that my opinion is not an unknown, out there, and ridiculous one.
Aunt Becca-Optimist Prime
May 7th, 2009 at 4:27 pm
GB: Then I’m glad Coke and I think alike.
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Just pray that the two of you don’t start thinking like me.
Bronx – youre right but not many other players got the “lets wait and see…” treatment from the media.
Ahh that’s just Gammons. He probably wrote a zillion pro-Manny pieces in his time so he’s probably in denial.
There is a legitimate male use for this HCG. It’s also been used for weight loss. But the fact that Manny is just accepting this suspension is the smoking gun here.
Manny is definitely aloof but I don’t picture him tossing 8 mil down the tubes because he doesn’t feel like talking about his huevo problems.
Actually he wouldn’t have to say anything. His doctor could easily clear him without divulging the nature of the condition.
pena leads the league in homeruns. it isnt like some hobo off the street took him deep, or a pitcher who is 1-3 and has an ERA of 6.75 help him to 3 hits over 7 innings and no runs.
TexMVP — I didn’t say you were all over Girardi about the game in Boston.. I was saying that I was all over him.
There is certainly an argument here, but considering the age and shoulder issues surrounding Mariano he should not pitch more than one inning for the forseeable future.
Gotta run till game time…. Limbaugh is selling me some left over OXY!!!!!
just kidding, no lecture needed
Randy,
Bingo.
Jeff,
Its not about having a following. Its basic baseball common sense.
I wouldn’t expect you to have any given your snide comments.
Leave the baseball talk to others and you can tell us all how Wang will be going into the bullpen when he comes back.
“Girardi just told the media that no decision has been made on A-Rod regarding his activation tomorrow. I have no idea why the Yankees play games like this.”
So when Arod is at the ballpark tomorrow and Girardi does his pre game interview is he still going to say that he doesn’t know when he will play?? Why can’t Girardi just say yes or no??!!
ESPN, Yahoo, and New York Post has confirmed A-rod is on his way to Baltimore. Why cant Girardi just come out and confirm it already. Stop playing games.
SJ44-Of course it was a big game. Games in May count as much as Spetember games, and we needed momentum after a losing streak.
Yes, he’s 39 and had surgery, but the surgery has thus far had no effects and the rest of our bullpen, Coke included was ridiculously overused. It made sense because he’s Mo. Could he have given up the HR? Of course. But I wouldn’t trash Girardi for keeping in his best pitcher after a five day rest for one more inning to give the Yankees a chance to rally.
Do people ever get banned from his site?
My last 3 posts never showed up.
First Amendment anyone?
The Manny issue is a joke. I DEMAND that of the games that Manny played in are wiped out and the Sox have to forfeit every one of those games, thus stripping them of their titles. Also, why shouldn’t the franchises that were responsible for enabling these players punished. Keep in mind A-Rod was in Texas when he took his supplements.
Meanwhile, the RedSox get a pass because they own that national media.
Bottom of the 6th, Horne walks the first batter, then, he gives up a two run homer.
Jeff,
Has Joe Torre ever used a 39 year old Mariano Rivera for 2 innings coming off shoulder surgery? Didn’t think so.
Even Joe Torre wouldn’t do it.
BTW, Scott Proctor may need TJ Surgery.
Do you really want to have Joe Torre bullpen usage conversations?
Texeriamvp….I was under no circumstance taking a shot at you…Actually it was about the influx of insanity from last light’s post game postings…..Pena in my opinion did not hit a mistake, he actually hit a tough pitch and went yard with it……Good spot and location on Coke’s pitch to him…..I respect your views, so run a lap and relax….
I am so, so excited for alex to come back and start pounding.
Keep in mind also what this does for the rest of their lineup – epsecially Tex. Tex will start raking now, too. Mark my words, everyone.
perhaps they havent decided if it is worth it to activate him in such poor weather conditions. a stretch, but he can be in baltimore and not active.
You all need to listen to the guy (CJ TJ) something that was just on with Kay.
He found out what the substance was and he goes into DETAIL as to what happened with Manny and his test etc. It should be posted on the 1050 site soon.
There is a lot more to it.
There were 2 drugs involved for one
I just jumped back in here, any more talk of any moves? I read on CJ’s blog that Shelley sat out with a sore shoulder. Nothing serious. Is he rumored to be coming?
Before the Yanks gave Cashman his latest contract, talk was that he would become the G.M. of the Phillies if NY didn’t sign him.
The people of Philadelphia owe the Steinbrenner family eternal gratitude for their World Series triumph.
You’re right Pete, it is really pointless to be so secretive about injuries. It seems like all teams in professional sports are like that but the Yankees take it to the extreme. Pretty silly if you ask me.
Teixeira mvp -
Oh.
GB, that home run aside not a bad outing for Horne considering how behind the hitters he is missing so much time,
I can see why the media always kills Girardi
He thinks they are fools and treats them like little kids. Yeah… because the Post, ESPN, Heyman, and Yahoo are all wrong.
What is he trying to gain by hiding this information? To throw off Dave Trembly? This isin’t like the NFL where you can say a receiver isin’t playing and it changes the game plan. Girardi has nothing to gain from hiding this info from the press.
Send albie down and bring up duncan
DFA berroa for A-Rod
Make many moves to improve the 40 man. remove at least 5 pitchers and move some hitters in. russo, rodriguez, linden, etc..
The surgery has had no effects? Are you kidding.
Until last night, he was throwing 88 MPH in his outings and his cutter had no bite.
Do you even watch the games? Really, that’s just a foolish statement.
Girardi’s job is to PROTECT Mariano Rivera. Not abuse him.
You are too young to realize these are not “big” games. They just aren’t.
But, if you believe it, just get Jane Heller to confirm it and you will have support.
Pat M-It just seemed that wahy because you disagred directly with what I said but instead of responding to me you respond to SJ, the main guy who disagrees with me.
I absolutely agree with you BoogieDown. Minutes after the story was released, Peter Gammons completely went out on a lim and defended Manny by saying he did not think he was on steroids. How do you think he was suspended for 50 games by violating MLB’s drug policy? He took a banned substance, his excuse does not exonerate him from that. Gammons was just sticking up for his home-boy.
I mentioned this earlier, but, after about a 2-3 game rush of adrenaline from Rodriguez, he’ll likely hit a down-turn. he did that last year and so do most players. It does help him playing in a park that he mashes in.
You’re right Pete, it is really pointless to be so secretive about injuries. It seems like all teams in professional sports are like that but the Yankees take it to the extreme. Pretty silly if you ask me.
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Pete’s precious Patriots are much worse than the Yankees.
wah wah wah
They wouldn’t say when A-Roid is coming back… who cares what he says does it make a difference?
Name me one time your favorite football cheating coach was ever truthful about injuries to the media. Belicheat makes a mockery of the injured list.
“First Amendment anyone?”
That doesn’t apply when you’re dealing with a private, corporate-owned web-site… nor should it.
Joe Girardi’s okay as a manager, but one thing I don’t like about him is the way he handles the media. It’s gotten better since last year, but why does he dance around this topic so often?
Stop trying to be so tricky with words.. just be honest. Say something like ‘Yes, Alex is on his way to Baltimore right now. We hope he’s ready to play tomorrow for us.’ Ya’ know, something like that.
SJ44-Come on. Show some respect.
When I said “didn’t affect” I meant no regression and no pain in the arm.
And I told you unless you are to arrogant to realize that I used her name just as an example that obviously it’s not a totally out there opinion.
Look at yourself, Mr. “You’re too young”. Before you called me a whiny twelve year old for hating the bullpen. The very next game the bullpen blew you said our bullpen is the worst in the league, now isn’t that consistent?
Girardi isn’t doing that on his own. That’s coming from above.
They probably haven’t finished the conference call with Arod and the doctors and don’t want to “officially” say anything until the call is concluded.
So, Girardi has to take the bullet here.
Like with the roster, he gets hamstrung through no fault of his own.
That’s a situation where the Yankees hurt themselves. Why they keep doing it? No idea.
they could be deciding if he’s going to play Friday or Saturday – who knows…
Mo looked great yesterday huh? Man that ball was moving.
I have no problem with Joe keeping him out of the 10th as using him would constitute a violation of my newly created “Mo Rules”.
Tex got the biggest hit of the year.
Burnett looked good but would have been better served with some sounder defense, a few ground balls and subsequent less pitches.
After 27 games last season they were a game better but the skies were dark and we didn’t even know how dark they would get.
SJ44-Since when is two innings, or even letting him face the big HR threat in Pena, “abuse”?
Lovely. Now trolls are impersonating me too.
The idiot with the bad grammar isn’t me.
Hey SJ44, here’s something I know about baseball that apparently you don’t, the 3rd baseman for the Yankees in the 1970′s was named GRAIG Nettles, not Craig. Thanks for making it personal again though.
Just wanted to show the new name.
Wow
I’ve been impersonated -does this give me Blog Cred?
Plus there are other moves to be made. Perhaps they just want make one announcement with all the information.
Whatever. It’s not Girardi’s job to give scoops. And just because he’s going to Baltimore doens’t mean he’s playing tomorrow, either.
I had thought he was going to play 6 innings in the field. Apparently it was only 3 in the field. Did he DH the other 3? How is he going to play a 9-inning game, will someone tell me?
If Tex needs Alex to come back before he can “rake” was he worth all the money we spent on him ?
HCG is not a steroid it is a hormone, but is protien based. Steroids are lipid based. However, it is banned for a reason. It jump starts testosterone production. So, unless Manny had it prescribed because he couldn’t get his wife pregnant, the only logical explanation would be because he just got off steroids and his cojones were little raisins
You don’t just use closers when the team is up by 3 runs to get them their cheap saves.. Tie games and 1 run games are the entire reason to have closers. What’s the point of paying Mariano that much money if you’re not going to take advantage of him late in games like that?
And please with the babying argument.. He hadn’t pitched in a week.. 18 wasn’t near his highest outing for the season. He threw 31 pitches a few weeks ago against Boston.. Where was the outcry that he threw too much then?
I don’t post in the game threads once they start.
If somebody is impersonating me, I have no control over that.
How do you know there are no effects post-surgery? You don’t.
Here’s what we DO know….
He had one two inning save opportunity this year and blew that game.
His velocity and movement has been down all year until last night.
As well as he threw last night, he needed 19 pitches to finish the inning (Mo’s average when he is right is between 12-14) and he couldn’t finish a .179 hitter (Navarro) to start that inning.
All of that evidence shows he isn’t right yet. So, why risk him? For a May game, they had numerous chances to and couldn’t get the big hit.
On top of all of that, the field was in horrible condition. Considering they just lost their catcher for the next month or two playing him on a wet field, you know want them to risk Mo?
I don’t see any logic in that. It goes against everything you do to protect the most important asset on the team.
Trenton goes to the top of the 7th….trailing 4-3. Sanit came in and walked a pair and run scored on a pair of groundouts.
Rishi-Why?
What is so difficult for people to understand that Mo Rivera is not 25 years old anymore?
What is so difficult for people to understand that you want him around all season?
Yesterday’s loss has nothing to do with Mo only pitching one inning. It has to do with the offense not scoring runs.
And if you use Mo 2 last night, you can’t use him tonight, can you?
Giradi’s plan was clear, use Mo to hold the Rays in the 9th, and win in the bottom of the inning…That’s what mgr.s do, that way everyone has something to second guess about the next day……
I said the same thing last night about Coke.
Watch the replay. Molina’s glove didn’t even move. Coke threw that pitch exactly where Molina called for it and Pena just hit it.
What I found hilarious though was “Captain’s Corner” and his response that the Yanks should know better than to pitch to the outside corner on a left handed hitter since we know the ball seems to carry to right field.
Yes, that was his argument. They shouldn’t pitch to the outer edge to power hitters at the Stadium anymore.
I’m sure hitters from around the league would be happy to hear that so they can just sit on pitches towards the inside corner.
Maybe Joe wants to make sure he wakes up feeling okay tomorrow? Why is there always such a conspiracy theory with everything?
Pete,
Manny indicated that he has been tested 15-20 times, does that mean that he was one of the people that failed the secret test. I have a buddy who plays BB, he was telling me that BB players arent tested that often. Is that true?
Second question wouldnt make more sense to Bat Alex 3rd, and tex 4 until he gets atleast 10 games in.
For everything that the 3 run double by Tex was good….the failing to drive the run in witrh one out in the 10th was bad. I really felt for him and his frustration, you can tell the guy is trying.
Teixeiramvp (I’m keeping the faith) (Not the troll)
May 7th, 2009 at 4:49 pm
Rishi-Why?
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That was sooo not me…don’t know who the moron is, but you are not me…
Franky Tex needs A-Rod behind him.
SJ- The fool on wfan said it wouldn’t be a panic move if Joe used Mo for two innings last night. I’m sure he had the opposite argument ready if he did. Anything to feed the clueless masses. I keep saying if Joe used Mo for two innings last night in that weather and he got hurt the masses would be ripping him a new one!
As it is he was killed for playing Jorge on a cold rainy night when he jammed his leg and strained his hammy.
Good post E-gawa. I could not agree more.
SJ44-You’d think they’d mention side effects of the surgery, wouldn’t you? I remember them talking about a bruised right knuckle on Jeter’s left pinky finger in ST.
The thing is, he’d had a five day rest and his velocity WAS up. And the Navaro hit was a bloop.
I don’t get why the field being wet is a risk. Mo is on the mound, which has drying agent.
Yes, he blew a four out save, but he didn’t look nearly as effective as yesterday. And Coke, while he was doing well, has been inconsistent and is not Mo. He’s not.
I just wouldn’t have babaied Mo like that. Even if it isn’t a “big” game (and under the circumstances I think it was) you play to win, and the best chance for us to win was putting Mo out there.
And of course you’re right, they couldn’t get the big hit. Bu they should have, anyway. Pena was safe.
If preserving Mo now means he’ll be around to nail down 30+ games over the course of the season, then sign me up.
In a way its similar to the situation with Tex taking a few days off when his wrist was bothering him – eventhough it weakened the lineup. It really is a marathon, and not a sprint.
Wow I got my own impersonator. The 4:52 comment is not mine, obviously.
Wow, Jim Rome is burning is the worst T.V. show I have ever seen.
As far as the bullpen last night, I thought they did great. One pitch left on the outside corner to the HR leader in MLB and it was deposited. That was a product of pitch selection not execution. It happens. I’m trying to think to myself that the Yanks are just a little snake bit lately. Lets hope Aura and Mystique make an appearance soon.
Hopefully, ARod will tip them more than 15% now
As far as the Girardi second guessing and “Fire Girardi” nonsense is concerned, I have no idea if he is the long term answer.
Neither does anybody else here.
The guy has been dealt an incredibly bad hand.
All of the injuries, a disjointed roster, and the slow acclaimation process of his prize off-season pickups.
He’s not getting fired, nor should he, anytime soon.
You manage a team, especially an older, infirmed team like the Yankees, over the long haul.
If they are within 5 of a post-season spot by the 4th of July, when most if not all of the injured will be back, THEN we will find out about the team.
At that point, they would have about 85 games to see exactly how they stack up against the competition.
Girardi deserves this year to see how it shakes out. Anything less would be incredibly shortsighted by the team and unfair to him.
First Manny tested positive for testosterone – that was not manufactured by his body. (not the HCG)
A hearing was scheduled
Before the hearing it was dicoverd that there was paper proof that Manny possessed HCG (paper trail)
This alone was enough to give Manny a 50 day vacation Sooo
the hearing on the testosterone test was Moot.
Because the Hearing process was NOT seen through til the end MLB rules state that the term “tested positive” can’t be used – even thoug he did
There is one unbanned substance that could have given Manny a pass on this – forgot the name
There IS MUCH more to this
what lies beneath
I hope that people temper their enthusiasm over Alex’s return with some realism. Yes, his presence in the lineup is going to have a huge effect, especially where Tex is concerned. However, he may not be 100%. I wouldn’t be surprised if he struggles a bit at first.
jennifer-I didn’t kill Girardi for playing Jorge on a rainy night. You got to play him on a rainy night eventually, it’s been rainy all week.
To all: This is not 20/20 hindsight, I said yesterday that Mo should have done two innings. Or even just tried to get out their big HR threat in Pena then take him out.
I couldnt agree more Laura
with all of the expectations and pressure, the guy is going to be a headcase. thats what i expect anyway..
Stealing names is pretty stupid.
To anyone who’s name was stolen,
Foward the link to Pete.. do this by right clicking the time of of the post and hitting copy. Ask Pete to ban the IP of the guy doing this.
“I really felt for him and his frustration, you can tell the guy is trying.”
Tex will be much more productive with Alex behind him. He really is getting worked around. To his credit, he hasn’t been going outside the zone, and is willingly taking the walks.
SJ44-You’re right. I’d wait for the all star break. I am second guessing Girardi because it just seems to me like he hasn’t done a good job this year. However, I would give him to the all star break to turn it around. And if he doesn’t, I love the idea of Sparky managing.
Even if Alex is only at 75%. Alex at 75% is better than Angel at 100%. Just his mere presence behind Tex will help Tex out.
Why would the Yankees mention anything about Mariano’s condition to anybody?
They won’t even tell everybody Arod will be in Baltimore tomorrow when EVERYBODY knows he will be! lol
If you can’t understand baseball logic, and the fact they are going to protect Mariano at ALL costs, nothing can be said to you that will make any sense.
Jennifer,
I could see it now…..
Mo comes out for a second innings, slips on the wet mound and gets hurt.
The SAME people who wanted him pitching that inning would be screaming from the mountaintops: “What was Girardi thinking? Fire him”!!!!
Just the nature of the knee jerk reactionaries who follow sports these days.
SJ44, I don’t post in game threads either, but anyone paying even partial attention to the normal content of your posts should be able to tell the difference between you and faux SJ44s.
You’re absolutely right about Rivera, by the way, and it’s only an issue because the Yankees lost and people want to blame someone.
I just don’t understand what kind of loser needs to steal someone else’s “Name” – post under “…” whatever, do you really need to try to impersonate someone else…especially when they are still here!
Yanks will be 10 games out by the end of May…to many holes & injuries now,BP stinks,SP they needed to spend the $ but was it worth it so far ( tell it’s early)..Damon can still get on base but he’s as bad as it gets in the OF. They should have got a CFer and a utility player who can hit & play all the infield positions
Laura, Good call that will be ignored by most here….His return immediately give the club a new look, The look of a very dangerous & powerfull lineup….
ooooh and imposter. I’m honored.
SJ- Agree 100%
As the days go by, it’s becoming more and more obvious that the skinny guys, Jeter & Mo, are the only ones above reproach.
They will be ones lionized, and rightly so. Jeter in particular (being a hitter) will be even more respected by future generations.
Guys name is TJ Quinn
Manny in old ESPN footage (March 6th) saying he never even thought about doing steriods
Laura – There’s nothing you have that I need, I can breathe!: It’s not just his production, people first of all will start pitching to Tex and it gives the team confidence. The truth is we don’t know how he’ll do. I have a funny feeling, with everything set up perfectly with the Manny story, he’s going to do well.
I love the Girardi can do no wrong people.
Ironically they’re the same “It’s Torres fault” people.
“Yanks will be 10 games out by the end of May…to many holes & injuries now,BP stinks,SP they needed to spend the $ but was it worth it so far ( tell it’s early)..Damon can still get on base but he’s as bad as it gets in the OF. They should have got a CFer and a utility player who can hit & play all the infield positions”
LOL -seriously?
there’s always an excuse with these Yankees,they just aren’t that good
Sparky Lyle is managing an Independent League team.
He has no chance to EVER manage the Yankees.
He can’t even get a job managing a minor league team. He’s not seen as a managerial candidate by anybody in MLB.
The guy stealing names is the same guy who did it all day yesterday.
Pete banned him and then he came back with an new IP address and did it again.
Seems he is back again.
This is the kind of stuff, as well as the idiots in the game thread, that is bringing this blog down to sewer levels. Its a damn shame.
That being the case, I’m done for the day. Enjoy the night folks and let’s get a win!
“Stealing names is pretty stupid.
To anyone who’s name was stolen,
Foward the link to Pete.. do this by right clicking the time of of the post and hitting copy. Ask Pete to ban the IP of the guy doing this.”
better yet, hunt them down and string them up by their balls.
To the person with the ISP of 75.33.66.9 who is impersonating my loyal readers:
Gotcha.
Now go away, fool.
SJ44-It was NOT knee jerk! I said it yesterday when Coke came in for the tenth!
And yes, they will of course be secretive but he was looking good and had a nice long rest, why not leave him in to face the guy leading the league in HR’s? And no, I absolutely would not have killed him for it.
“The Yankees just made it official: Alex will be back tomorrow.”
Woohoo!!! I guess the conference call is finished…
SJ44-Yeah well, according to the Yankeeography he never tried to manage a minor league team.
No idea if he’d even be interested, he’s just donea good job with the Somerset Patriots.
I seriously doubt anyone would blame Girardi for bringing a pitcher in that slips on the mound and gets hurt. Mo hasn’t pitched much at all lately, two innings is nothing to him, and he had just struck out the side the inning before. You have the top of your lineup coming up in the bottom of the 10th, leave Mo in for two and have faith Jeter, Damon, Tex can scratch out a run. I know they didn’t, but you can’t assume they wouldn’t have if it were a tie game instead of 4-3. I also realize you can’t assume Mo wouldn’t have given up a run like Coke did, but you sure feel safer with Mariano out there. I don’t really care if Coke threw a good pitch… he had like 9 scoreless appearances before that, the fact is you are due to give up a run at some point… Maybe don’t bring him in a tie game in the 10th. Leave Mo out there for 2 innings, it gives you an extra chance to win it outright in the bottom half. He hasn’t been taxed lately, it was a fairly easy decision no matter what Coke did.
Great hunting, Pete.
Torre failed once he got into the playoffs
Girardi can’t even get to the playoffs.
But either way, this just proves that it is Cashman who is the culprit, not the manager.
KO-Exactly!
Thanks, Pete.
UPDATE, 5:01 p.m.: The Yankees just made it official: Alex will be back tomorrow.
Rocco-Besides the four world series rings.
I have a feeling this is going to be the start of a 10 game winning streak
“The Yankees just made it official: Alex will be back tomorrow.”
Woohoo!!! I guess the conference call is finished…
wonder how many players are happy about this ?
Tear down this moat!
DominicanYank-I get that feeling too. They just seem so close…
“I have a funny feeling, with everything set up perfectly with the Manny story, he’s going to do well.”
I hope you are right. I think that, in the end, he will return to his old self.
Santana is so good
39 IP, 54 Ks, 0.91 ERA
25 ERs in his last 20 starts
“wonder how many players are happy about this ?”
All 40 of them who are on the roster.
I’d rather see them lose last night than risk Mo’s health.
Do people want to put a cap on the season and risk Mo coming up lame too?
Besides, Coke made a good pitch. Pena just hit it.
Why do people have such a hard time understanding that these guys get paid big money to do these things?
Rishi
May 7th, 2009 at 4:52 pm
Teixeiramvp (I’m keeping the faith) (Not the troll)
May 7th, 2009 at 4:49 pm
Rishi-Why?
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That was sooo not me…don’t know who the moron is, but you are not me…
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If Rodriguez shows that he can at least hit with some authority and a couple of homers, that’s the only way that Teixeira’s going to benefit. They won’t be risking walks by throwing him a diet of breaking pitches (that he seems to be having trouble with) if Rodriguez is hitting. Other than that, Teixeira’s going to see off-speed pitches until he starts hitting them
gotcha, indeed.
sleep tight, m’fer.
# Laura – There’s nothing you have that I need, I can breathe! May 7th, 2009 at 5:09 pm
“wonder how many players are happy about this ?”
All 40 of them who are on the roster.
I’m sure that’s not the case…no way
“I seriously doubt anyone would blame Girardi for bringing a pitcher in that slips on the mound and gets hurt. ”
You obviously don’t read much here, do you?
Sorry, Rishi. That wasn’t meant for you.
I had copied it to make a smartass remark.
Can we cut Veras to make room for Alex on the roster? That guy really needs to go.
“wonder how many players are happy about this ?”
Well if they want to win then they would be fools to not be happy. Unless ofcourse they think Pena is going to turn into an MVP.
Franco-Of course, but I just thought that Mo had five days to rest, it was a big game, and Coke, as well as he’s done, has been inconsistent. Mo has been somewhat inconsistent this season, but he was doing great. Why not try him out at least on their big slugger, Pena?
I just looked up the IP address that Pete posted and the person is from Painesville, Ohio. I don’t know if that helps any, but yeah.
swisherrocks May 7th, 2009 at 5:14 pm
I just looked up the IP address that Pete posted and the person is from Painesville, Ohio. I don’t know if that helps any, but yeah.
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I say we turn him into the FBI
“I just looked up the IP address that Pete posted and the person is from Painesville, Ohio. I don’t know if that helps any, but yeah.”
It only helps if someone else here lives near Painesville, OH, can locate this fool and kick his/her butt. Other than that, no – it doesn’t help.
Franco-Of course, but I just thought that Mo had five days to rest, it was a big game, and Coke, as well as he’s done, has been inconsistent. Mo has been somewhat inconsistent this season, but he was doing great. Why not try him out at least on their big slugger, Pena?
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Coke hasn’t been inconsistent. He had a rough first week and he’s been very good ever since.
That’s not the definition of inconsistency. He’s not like Veras where he’s been very good one game and very bad the next.
Coke just overcame a bad start.
Welcome back, Alex, I guess.
(I am tempering my expectations.)
Franco-Perhaps. But Coke is not Mo.
A-Rod back!
Should we bring the O’Neill banner to Ohio?
Yep, it’s from OH
It only helps if someone else here lives near Painesville, OH, can locate this fool and kick his/her butt. Other than that, no – it doesn’t help.
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Somebody call Joe The Plumber.
“Can we cut Veras to make room for Alex on the roster? That guy really needs to go.”
My money is on Veras sticking around. He’s got a good, live arm… the mechanics just seem to be inconsistent. Frankly, he should’ve been dealt (with others) for a CF during the offseason, but that’s just me. I don’t see Cash selling low on him. I also trust Girardi and Eiland can get him straightened out (then they’ll hopefully trade him
).
A-Rod! A-Rod! So awesome, can’t wait until tomorrow
“Should we bring the O’Neill banner to Ohio?”
lol
Actually, they can just call O’Neill himself… Cincy is in Ohio, after all.
no worries, GB…
So if we can’t lose Veras, my guess is Berroa goes down. I think they’ve fallen in love with Pena and will use him as the utility guy.
This Manny news is just great. If you’ve ever been on the Yankee message boards it’s all about how the Yankees cheated but the Sox were clean. No more. They’re just as guilty as we were, maybe more. I’m guessing Big Papi juiced too.
It’ll also shut up the We want Torre chanters. The Dodgers are nothing w/o Manny. W/o him, they’re a subpar baseball team.
“Somebody call Joe The Plumber.”
BTW, the very definition of “15 minutes of fame”
Franco-Perhaps. But Coke is not Mo.
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Mo is much more valuable on the field than on the shelf.
They aren’t risking Mo’s health at this stage. Period. You’re gonna have to learn to live with it.
What up with Pena missing grounders lately?
Veras has NASTY stuff… mid 90s FB, good slider
He just needs more time. You can’t get rid of an arm like that.
Franco-Is going one more inning after a five day rest really so ridiculous?
Maybe they won’t do it, but they should of.
Danny-Yeah, Veras did well last year. He gets it right he’ll be a real good arm.
lol pitching a second inning isn’t “risking Mo’s health”.
“So if we can’t lose Veras, my guess is Berroa goes down. I think they’ve fallen in love with Pena and will use him as the utility guy.”
Oh yeah, Berroa is history – so to speak. He’ll be DFA’d. Poor Pete is going to have find a new guy to make jokes about. Maybe he can go back to picking on Krazy Kyle.
LOL, I got to respect the announcers. They clearly do want us to win, they sounded so depressed the past few days. Michael Kay calling the HR, he just sounded so down.
They better win tonight
They need to start earning their money. We did not pay $210 for mediocrity
Alex is a so called cheater, cheated(admitted) in Tex may have cheated in Sea,maybe with the Yankees,little league,high school…don’t really care how good he is
The playoffs are no longer guaranteed. I don’t know what you’re saving Mo for. If we don’t win games now.. there aren’t going to be any “important” games later on.
E-gawa: Yeah, that too.
Franco-Is going one more inning after a five day rest really so ridiculous?
Maybe they won’t do it, but they should of.
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It’s easy to make those decisions when it’s not your ass on the line.
Girardi knows damn well that Mo’s long term health is much more important to this team than risking this guy getting hurt for the opportunity to maybe win last night.
Mo goes down for a month and this team is in enormous trouble. It’s not worth the risk.
“The Dodgers are nothing w/o Manny. W/o him, they’re a subpar baseball team.”
I disagree. LA is a pretty deep, well-rounded, team. Offensively, they’ll be OK w/o Manny. Now if they lost Broxton or Billingsley, then they’d be in trouble because their pitching is a bit thin.
Franco-Is it seriously that much of a risk though?
ok – so i’m behind on my mother’s day flowers…looking on 1800flowers.com, anyone have any other preferred sites?
I just heard an analyst/ex ball player on ESPN radio saying Wright and Jeter probably took steroids and that 95% of all MLB players used PED’s at the height of the era.
So either we let it go and hope it is all cleaned up or just walk away from the lying cheating scum.
vin-Maybe, but I remember last year they weren’t doing particularly well until Manny came along.
“Mo goes down for a month and this team is in enormous trouble. It’s not worth the risk.”
Yikes… I just thought about who the closer would be if Mo were injured. I’m actually nauseous right now.
Vrsce-Jeter’s physique got broader over the years, and he was never a power hitter.
“I disagree. LA is a pretty deep, well-rounded, team.”
Plus, they play in the NL West, a division that my God son’s baseball team could win.
I’d still vote Manny to the HOF. Don’t think he did anything egregious.
vin-The closer would be Joba, which the Yankees said before the year began. It’s our starting staff that would have a hole, you’d probably see Kennedy or perhaps Aceves.
I will never believe that Jeter cheated, I just reported what the guy on ESPN said.
Anyone else worried about Toronto?
lol pitching a second inning isn’t “risking Mo’s health”.
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Thanks, Dr. E-gawa.
Girardi obviously thought so or he would have used him for another inning.
But I’m not surprised you and others want to risk Mo’s health given all the other nonsense that you guys spew on a daily basis here.
“I just heard an analyst/ex ball player on ESPN radio saying Wright and Jeter probably took steroids and that 95% of all MLB players used PED’s at the height of the era.”
Well, if Jeter used, he most certainly wasn’t using the right ones as his HR total is nothing to write home about.
If Mo were to God forbid be injured we would move Joba to the pen no question.
Lance-I wouldn’t, as I wouldn’t vot ARod or Bonds either.
So having CC throw 120+ pitches in his 3rd start when he’s up 6-0 is ok.. even though he’s never done that before.. it’s ok.
But having MO pitch a second inning when he’s thrown 18 pitches in a tie game at home is bad..
hmmmm…
# Laura – There’s nothing you have that I need, I can breathe! May 7th, 2009 at 5:32 pm
“I disagree. LA is a pretty deep, well-rounded, team.”
Plus, they play in the NL West, a division that my God son’s baseball team could win.
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your god son’s baseball team could but not these New York Yankees
“vin-Maybe, but I remember last year they weren’t doing particularly well until Manny came along.”
The team has changed quite a bit since then. To me, the big turning point on their season last year was actually when they got Casey Blake. He solidified 3B, and anchored the bottom half of the lineup. Manny was what made them a WS contender.
As I said, they can handle a blow to the offense, much more than the pitching staff. I wouldn’t mind having anyone of the following guys on my team:
Furcal
Hudson
Ethier
Loney
Martin
Kemp
Blake
Teixeiramvp-
On the Mo issue, it seems to me the rain and the cold argued against more than one inning.
My other feeling is the Yanks since the Yanks insist on carrying 8 relievers, why take a chance with Mo? There are plenty of arms in the bullpen. If you don’t think a guy is capable of pitching a scoreless inning then he shouldn’t be on the major league roster.
Plus, it was a tie game. Who’s to say 2 innings would have helped? Why stop there? Sparky and Goose used to pitch 3 innings all the time. But that’s just not the way it’s done these days.
AND, don’t worry about SJ44 calling you an idiot or a kid. That’s just his way of saying he disagrees with you. If he hasn’t called you a moron or a junior high schooler, then you just haven’t been trying.
Dr. Franco,
Is that what Girardi said? Or are you mind reading again?
You just know that with E-Gawa and Teixeiramvp agreeing on everything that a conversation between the two of them is worth the price of admission. Just think….we get to see it for free.
this Manny story isn’t over with either
“Alex shook hands with everybody in Tampa, thanked them for their assistance with rehab and then left. Where else is he going?”
Serena Roberts tailing him I presume.
Franco-Now you have to get personal?
I know he’s 39 and it’s rainy, but what is really the risk? It’s raining, so Mo may slip and fall? He’ll throw his arm out to the three extra batters.
Just because you disagree doesn’t make it nonsense.
“I’d still vote Manny to the HOF. Don’t think he did anything egregious.”
Unless they can prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that all of the guys currently in the Hall never cheated, they all should get in. Alex. Manny. McGuire. Clemens. Even that jerk Barry Bonds should get into the Hall.
E-gawa
Decisions like that are why Girardi will be fired sooner, not later.
He is treating each game like he has the whole season… when he doesn’t. If he’s .500 on Memorial Day, he is gone. He should be trying to win each game, but he has a lackadaisical attitude and thinks his job is safer than it really is.
“If Mo were to God forbid be injured we would move Joba to the pen no question.”
Yeah, if it was a long-term injury. But what if Mo had a “minor” injury, forcing him to miss anywhere from 2-6 weeks. I doubt they’d have Joba go from trying to throw 7 innings down to 1, then back up to 7 for the rest of the season.
Wave Your Hat-All right. Fine. You could say that, I don’t mind.
GreenBeret7-WHY do you have to get personal? We agree on everything because we happen to have the ame view on this issue. I’ve agreed with you before, and you’ve agreed with me. Why do you feel the need to get personal?
Rishi-proflowers.com
http://www.proflowers.com/
Franco-Is it seriously that much of a risk though?
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Think about it.
If you don’t understand these variables, then I don’t know what to tell you:
* Mo is 39 years old
* Mo had offseason shoulder surgery
* Until last night, Mo had not thrown at his normal velocity at any point this season because he didn’t have the arm strength to do so
* The weather was terrible
* He had just thrown 19 pitches in the 9th inning
“He is treating each game like he has the whole season… when he doesn’t. If he’s .500 on Memorial Day, he is gone.”
Actually he does. Bet he won’t smart guy
My expectation was that Rivera was coming in to face Pena.
Because we’re talking about a man who turns LHB into sawdust and because I know Girardi goes by the numbers, my assumption is that he did not want to risk Rivera on a slippery mound during a downpour. In his shoes, if I felt there was a risk to Rivera’s health, I would not take it, either.
At least, I hope that was his reasoning, because from a baseball perspective, there is no other reasonable answer.
As much as I admire Coke’s stuff and demeanor, you want Rivera all day against Carlos Pena.
Rivera is death against left-handed batters, and Pena is the posterboy for left-handed futility against him – his 0 for 10 doesn’t even tell the whole story; you have to look at the ABs to see how overmatched he’s looked.
So the expectation that Mariano Rivera would be asked to get one more out against a batter who can’t touch him- with a tie game and the Yankees enjoying last ups – is the sign of a fan who knows how to recognize the obvious.
To cite his pitch count is to raise the irrelevant. He was extremely sharp – not like his appearance in Boston, where the Red Sox had Varitek bat lefty because they knew how off his command was. You will see Varitek only taking right-handed swings when Rivera’s location is back to where it lives.
But really, the issue aside, calling a poster baseball stupid just reflects on the accuser. Erudite people don’t need to humiliate others to build themselves up, in any case. But it’s particularly silly when that other makes a valid point.
Maybe you should take your cue from posters here like GB7 and CB, who clearly are interested in the discourse and knowledge sharing, rather than in blowing their own horns.
If you take exception to this, I’ll be happy to quote you with attribution. Then people, who may have missed the gross condescension, can decide for themselves.
ame is same.
So Manny is Due back July 3rd…I’ll bet he is voted in as a starter to the All Star Game
Maybe now we know why the Yanks and Mets wanted nothing to do w/Manny?
Mo is 39. Not 29. Mo had shoulder surgery. It was cold and rainy. It is May, not July, August or September. This is a loooooooooooong season. You really have to pace yourself. (Not “you” as in a particular person, but the general “you,” and more specifically, baseball teams.)
CC is not 39. He is still, what, 29? CC is a horse – and he likes the work load. He’s not coming off shoulder surgery. And anyway, it’s not a relevant argument to LAST NIGHT.
You must be having a lot of fun getting people up in arms here, disagreeing with you. You seem purposely dense on this subject. I can’t believe a reasonable baseball fan, never mind a YANKEES fan, could fail to see how it makes more sense to be conservative in May so that you have an August to worry about.
Franco-Think on this, though:
He looked awesome that night
He had five days to rest
He is a better option than Coke, no matter how good Coke was doing
He owns lefties
If not the whole inning, why not the HR threat in Pena?
bodhisattva-Thanks.
btw, that ip address traces to Cleveland, OH.
Yet another reason to hate Cleveland (as if more were needed).
So having CC throw 120+ pitches in his 3rd start when he’s up 6-0 is ok.. even though he’s never done that before.. it’s ok.
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Sabathia is used to a huge workload if you bothered to pay attention the last couple of years.
He’s also 28 years old. Mo is 39 and had shoulder surgery over the offseason.
Never mind. You don’t get it so I’m not going to bother explaining it to you a hundred times.
Teixeiramvp (I’m keeping the faith) (Not the troll)
May 7th, 2009 at 5:38 pm
Wave Your Hat-All right. Fine. You could say that, I don’t mind.
GreenBeret7-WHY do you have to get personal? We agree on everything because we happen to have the ame view on this issue. I’ve agreed with you before, and you’ve agreed with me. Why do you feel the need to get personal?
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It wasn’t personal. I just said that I’d pay to hear the two of you talk about baseball. I didn’t say it wiuld be great entertainment.
By the way….there is nothing that you’ve said that I could or would consider agreeing with you as far as tactics in baseball goes. You just don’t make enough sense to me. Just my opinion.
Manny originally tested positive for synthetic testosterone. He was going to appeal the suspension; however, MLB found papers linking him to hCG.
Synthetic tostosterone+a popular masking agent=fertility problems?
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/.....id=4148907
Doreen-I’m glad you’re being respectful, but you can’t look at a season that way. At this point, we need wins. By August who knows if we’re in a position to win? If we are a game below 500 by then, that is a bad position. You got to try and win.
Why do guys risk taking Performance enhancing drugs ? The two highest paid players in the game have now been caught. There was a huge payday available, that was why they took the risk. In the end this will cost Alex no money and Manny “only” $8 million or so (in the end he will come out ahead because cheating helped him put up the huge numbers which resulted in the big contract).
As usual money explains a lot here.
“Unless they can prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that all of the guys currently in the Hall never cheated, they all should get in. Alex. Manny. McGuire. Clemens. Even that jerk Barry Bonds should get into the Hall.”
Unless they expel known cheaters (Perry, Carlton, Ford, Cobb) and those who used illegal substances (Ruth, Aaron, Molitor, Eckersley, Rai… whoops, cocaine use only gets held against the black dude), they should all get in.
GreenBeret7-All right, fair enough. And it’s an opinion you’re entitled to.
Kevin S.-Alex admitted it.
Bodi-
One additional point against Mo not pitching in the 10th is that it was a rather long bottom of the 9th. Two pitching changes, to go along with a hit and a walk.
You do raise a good point about bringing Mo out for just Pena, but you can’t fault Girardi for going with Coke.
I was quoting Laura in that first paragraph. My point was that even if these guys shouted it from the rooftops, they should be in the Hall.
ugh, the Girardi apologists on here are starting to bother me. Girardi is not perfect, in fact he is very suspect until proven otherwise, 2008 bullpen management success or not.
What is the purpose of Mariano Rivera then? What are you saving him for?
Kevin S.-Ruth may have taken illeagal substances, but if anything they affected him negatively.
Where the heck did this Sparky Lyle idea come from. He is managing in the independent league, basically one step behind top division 1 college baseball. He is absolutely not even going to be considered for the Yankee manager job, ever.
I think Girardi deserves the whole year, but I do not get to make those decisions. If things get bad and they feel a change is needed, they will select from a very small group of men, basically to get them through the year, and then then hire someone else in the off-season when there are a lot more options, unless the interim guy takes them deep into the playoffs. I would think that small group starts with Tony Pena and would contain other experienced ex-big league managers who are either broadcasting or are in some management/consulting role with a club. No other team is going to allow one of their coaches to take part in an interview during the year, it will disrupt them for no reason.
If Coke had managed to get Pena out, this whole Mo debate wouldn’t even be going on. I think Girardi did the right thing. Mo did not need to pitch another inning. If his 9th had been a bit more economical, maybe you let him pitch to Pena, who is the most dangerous. However, since he’d thrown 19 pitches in the 9th, pulling him for Coke was the right move.
Again, it’s not that they helped him, it’s that one of the arguments against the steroids group is “They broke the law!!” That’s why I broke it into two categories, cheaters and illegal drug users.
Bottom line
If we miss the playoffs by one game, we’re going to look back at yesterday’s game and wonder what we were saving MO for.
A game in May is just as important as a game in September.
“You know how I drive 80 on the highway even though all the signs say to go 55? That’s how everyone thought back then — the signs said one thing, but everyone did the other.”
Bill Simmons has it right. And MLB was the cop sleeping in their car with the radar gun turned off.
Teixeira mvp -
We’ll just disagree on this.
I’m going to quit now. I’m not a risk taker, and I tend to look over the long haul.
I wish they’d won in the bottom of the 9th so there wouldn’t even be this discussion.
“What is the purpose of Mariano Rivera then? What are you saving him for?”
A two inning save needed in August, September or October. May 6th? Sorry, no dice.
GB7, is the new Howard Cosell…
If we miss the playoffs by one game, we’re going to look back at yesterday’s game and wonder what we were saving MO for.
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I tend to doubt it.
There are a few games they should have won already but didn’t. I’m sure there will be several more examples over the next 135 games as well.
People won’t remember this move in four months.
Those complaining about Girardi not using Rivera would be roasting him for not bringing in Coke if Rivera had given up that homer. You’re the same ones suggesting that Rivera was just about finished after Bay’s homer. You’re wrong, so get over it. My opinion, of course.
By the way, the proof of that is on this board every night when you second guess any move that doesn’t work.
“Bill Simmons has it right. And MLB was the cop sleeping in their car with the radar gun turned off.”
That’s actually the worse part. The indignation that MLB has about this after sitting by and watching it go on for years, but doing nothing about it. If you look up the word hypocrite in the dictionary, you’ll find a picture of Bud Selig staring back at you.
vin
May 7th, 2009 at 5:46 pm
Bodi-
One additional point against Mo not pitching in the 10th is that it was a rather long bottom of the 9th. Two pitching changes, to go along with a hit and a walk.
You do raise a good point about bringing Mo out for just Pena, but you can’t fault Girardi for going with Coke.
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You’re right, especially a long bottom of the inning and the cold to exacerbate the situation. Otherwise, I’m certain we see Rivera. It’s good to see Mariano back on track, but then again, it’s May and April – his annual hiccup – is gone.
Thank goodness.
I’m off the the Stadium myself. Can we please not have rain today.
Blackout -
If the Yankees miss by one game, there are already far too many individual games to point to to narrow it down to last night.
It wasn’t a two inning save. I am mostly against those. This was a tie game at home, a game you should win, but Girardi gave it away in fear that Mo would get hurt. I firmly disagree with his decision as I do not anticipate injury, I anticipate Mo to be Mo.
Caesar-It’s not exactly one up from college ball. Some of the players end up going to the majors.
Listen, he may not even want to. That’s fine. But he’s done a great job with the Patriots and who knows? I think he’d make a fine manager. But you’re right. I’d wait for the ASB before shopping for managers.
Doreen-Okay, fine. As far as I’m concerned, they won it in the 9th. The ump blew the call.
Pat M
May 7th, 2009 at 5:50 pm
GB7, is the new Howard Cosell…
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I have my own hair.
By the way, I got a chance to meet ali a few times when he would come to Berrien Springs, Michigan to do his training. Talk about a circus. Loud, but, he was a really nice guy.
GreenBeret7-I’ll assume you’re referring to me. I never said Mo was finished afer the Bay HR, I said he’s 39 andthere’s no gurantees he’s the old Mo, and now he seems fine.
And no, I would not have been mad at Joe if he kept in Mo, even if he blew the tie. He’s our best pitcher, you go to him in big situations.
http://web.yesnetwork.com/news.....1&oid=
A Yesnetwork guy who shares my views.
Jason Whitlock IS a good writer. If a good writer is defined as someone who can’t write an article without playing the race card.
Killing Girardi again? What did you guys do in the days before the internet? You waited to hear it on the radio or read it in the paper.
Jeez.
If the rain and his long term health was even an issue.. why bring him out there at all?
There are at least three YES Network guys, Flaherty, Shearn, and Kaat (and perhaps Jones too), who think Joba should be in the bullpen.
That doesn’t make them right.
What are we saving Mariano for?
How about tonight?
Out of all the garbage that the Yanks have been showing us THIS is today’s big debate?
Coke is NOT the problem: teams lose close games
Franco-When did I say that made him right? He just expressed my views very well. And I think he’s right in this case.
Looks like Bobby Crosby is starting to hit again for Oakland. And, he really has been turned into a utility player, putting in time at all 4 infield spots and left field. If he could hit about .265-.275, he’d be a valuable player. Other than injuries, the worst thing that ever happened to him was hitting 22 homers as a rookie. He’s not a power hitter.
They need to be doctors right?
TJ Quinn is reporting about the Manny thing on ESPN now
… and he is reporting live outside Yankee Stadium LOL
Uncle Ellsworth-I brought this up, but I mentioned a lot of things, and this apparently stuck out to people.
Teix, fair enough. He does not seem to be on their radar, but he could very well be a good manager. BTW, are the Patriots still owned by Steve something (I forget his last name), the car guy from Flemington?
Mo was really animated last night. It was almost as if he was trying to will the Yanks to a win.
I’m sure Teixeira had a hard time sleeping. He’s not going to get consistent until he lightens up.
Caesar-I wouldn’t know.
Teixeiramvp (I’m keeping the faith) (Not the troll)
May 7th, 2009 at 5:58 pm
GreenBeret7-I’ll assume you’re referring to me. I never said Mo was finished afer the Bay HR, I said he’s 39 andthere’s no gurantees he’s the old Mo, and now he seems fine.
And no, I would not have been mad at Joe if he kept in Mo, even if he blew the tie. He’s our best pitcher, you go to him in big situations.
http://web.yesnetwork.com/news.....1&oid=
A Yesnetwork guy who shares my views.
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You need to quit being so paranoid. Not every post or remark is about you. It’s either a guilty conscience or paranoia. Take your pick.
GreenBeret7-Probably paranoia from not enough sleep. Sigh.
I assumed me because the one day I emntioned it you jumped down my throat.
Anyway, I’ll try and get less paranoid from now on. You raise a good point GB7.
Tex MVP
I just think is one of those thing that did not work out-
not really that big a deal.
But even if Mo is left in there is no guarantee they win anyhow AND because he did not pitch 2 innings he will be available if a save situation arises tonight
Teixeiramvp,
If you agree with me on anything.. you’re in deep trouble with some people that post here.
Gotta go guys. Let’s go Yankees!
“Killing Girardi again? What did you guys do in the days before the internet? You waited to hear it on the radio or read it in the paper.
Jeez.”
I think (hope) most of the poeple killing Girardi weren’t born before the internet.
GreenBeret7 , would they take a Jose Veras JB Cox combo for Bobby, if so I’d do it. To have him and Ramiro Pena on the bench would be interesting. Although right now we aren’t in position to do this.
bill simmons has a great story on espn on manny and the saga. check it out…
classic…
Pete, do you think you could put together the All-Non-Steroid Team from this generation?
At this point, Occam’s Razor is slicing ‘em thin. Who do we have left?
Besides Arod what other moves are rumored to be going down if any?
Pardon The Interuption is truly one of the best sports shows, in many ways it’s the best…..I wonder how many quitters show up tonight claiming to be Yankee fans…Last hight was an alltime record…..Growing up in NY defined ourselves by not be one to throw in the towel, or just quit when things don’t go the way you wanted…..Punchball babies
This has probably been discussed on the previous thread about Manny and the use of HCG to reverse the effects of PEDs, but I attached this short article anyway. Notice the “increase in body Hair” with HCG.
http://www.nationalmedicalclin.....erone.html
“There are at least three YES Network guys, Flaherty, Shearn, and Kaat (and perhaps Jones too), who think Joba should be in the bullpen.
That doesn’t make them right.”
Even Posada himself thought he should be in the bullpen earlier this year. Until he came to his senses.
The only way I’m in favor of Joba in the bullpen – and actually, this is a best case scenario in my book, is:
He makes stays healthy and makes all his starts, approaches his IP limit during the summer (august?) and then gets transitioned to the BP with Hughes or maybe Aceves ready to take his spot in the rotation. I’m actually pulling for that option.
Brandon unfortunately I think Cox has nothing as far as trade value. The scouts that I saw at some AAA games were less than impressed. He is the worse reliever at SWB and not sure he would even be effective at Trenton at this point.
i think the correct term for the lague during the steroid era is accomplice. they all knew it was going on be real.
brady anderson just look at his stats his improvement at his age is literally impossible..
he went from nothing to 52 dingers, impossible…..
Has Peter Gammons spoken since the additional details came out on Manny?
Stuart there were a lot more juicers on those Orioles teams.
I think that Joba would make a world-class closer and very good starter.
Anyone who can’t take a stance without acknowledging the other POV is close-minded.
Joba-staying to write the story.
Boston Dave
yes he has on Kays show
basically not buying Manny’s story anymore
It took the smoking gun to convince Gammons.
thanks Uncle E
I can understand Gammons not wanting to think that Manny “cheated” but as long as he’s willing to accept the possibility that he did…
Don’t think so, Boston Dave.
I also love how Gammons used a quote by a Red Sox official that “proved” Manny wasn’t ‘roiding on the Sox. Like the Sox are going to say “Manny was a huge juicer when he was here. We knew it.”
Oh, never mind. Didn’t hear Kays show.
Brandon “We are all going to meet Berroa under the Oneill banner” “I LOVE ME SOME ME !”
May 7th, 2009 at 6:16 pm
GreenBeret7 , would they take a Jose Veras JB Cox combo for Bobby, if so I’d do it. To have him and Ramiro Pena on the bench would be interesting. Although right now we aren’t in position to do this.
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Hard to say, but, I doubt it. There’s never a guarentee when Chavez can play, so, not much NYY could help them with there.
“Steve Phillips thinks the Yankees should consider moving Phil Hughes to the bullpen instead of Joba Chamberlain.”
“Steve Phillips thinks the Yankees should consider moving Phil Hughes to the bullpen instead of Joba Chamberlain.”
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Pathetic
“Steve Phillips thinks the Yankees should consider moving Phil Hughes to the bullpen instead of Joba Chamberlain”
No question this pen has to be fixed but Hughes to the pen?
Not what I would do…
“Steve Phillips thinks the Yankees should consider moving Phil Hughes to the bullpen instead of Joba Chamberlain”
Just say NO to ESPN… trust me, you’ll be better for it.
Hey guys, I’m back briefly here. Wanted to comment on Pete weighing in on the Mo debate. He points out the Bay HR in Boston, but Mo looked far moreeffective today. Your other option is an inconsistent bullpen. And I understand Coke’s been doing well, but Mo is Mo.
Just weighing in quick.
At least we can start chanting 1918 again.. the last time the Red Sox won without cheating.
In a couple of years Hughes and Joba’ll both be in the rotation.
CB suggested and made good points to put AJ Burnett in the bullpen because he relies on two pitches , a nasty curve and a moving fastball, While Joba should remain a starter, having his 4 pitch arsenal.
If that’s the thinking, maybe Wang should find a spot in the bullpen and leave Hughes as a starter.
“At least we can start chanting 1918 again.. the last time the Red Sox won without cheating.”
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only if you want to take away the Yankees titles of the 90′s and every title since then.
MLB has turned itself into a joke.
So let me get this straight…
Gammons went from believing Manny did NOT use PEDs, to accepting the fact that he did use? How about he have some credibility and keep his trap shut until he gets his all his facts.
Then, what happens to all of the teams that had players who ate greenies like m&m’s? Greenies are a PED too.
“Steve Phillips thinks the Yankees should consider moving Phil Hughes to the bullpen instead of Joba Chamberlain”
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Hughesie, Jobber-let’s just move everyone to the pen.
Phillips said
When Hughes was starting in 2007, he was throwing 88-89.
But when he went to the bullpen in the playoffs against the Indians, his fastball was 96-97.
Really? I don’t remember him throwing that hard.
“only if you want to take away the Yankees titles of the 90’s and every title since then.
MLB has turned itself into a joke.”
Boston fans already have.
Now the egg is on their face.
A lot of people are saying Shelley will be called up. CJ’s blog has a nugget about him sitting out today and having recently had a cortisone shot for an achy shoulder.
There’s a move to be made but JRod or Linden would give more flexibility to the roster. At some point it will be Russo. Too early though after a poor ST and his hammie injury.
Cheating is as much a part of the game as rosin bags and pine tar.
The only cheating that bothers me is cheating that aids the opposition.
If you throw a game I have no sympathy for you, at all.
Trying to make your team better? I have some sympathy for that, depending. Although it’s not exactly easy to argue that Bonds et al were team players.
Can we move Steve Phillips to the pen? the pigpen? The dude flip-flops more than a tourist in beach sandals.
Against Cleveland in the playoffs, he might have touched 94-95 but he was primarily 91 to 92 and was locating.
“Boston fans already have.
Now the egg is on their face.”
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I can’t argue that. For any Sox fans who really thought their team was 100% clean all those years, anyway.
“CB suggested and made good points to put AJ Burnett in the bullpen because he relies on two pitches , a nasty curve and a moving fastball, While Joba should remain a starter, having his 4 pitch arsenal.
If that’s the thinking, maybe Wang should find a spot in the bullpen and leave Hughes as a starter.”
Yeah, he blew my mind with that one. It actually made some sense (as he usually does). I liked the point about protecting AJ’s 32 year old arm. Pretty progressive thinking from a good poster, but too unconventional for modern sports.
That said, I don’t think Wang would make a good reliever (in any capacity). He’s a “whole is greater than the sum of the parts” kind of pitcher. He needs to throw 6-7 innings every 5 days to be considered a very good pitcher. He struggles with men on base, is prone (as are all sinkerballers) to giving up cheap hits which turn into runs, and doesn’t strike out many guys (less than ideal for a reliever).
Ryan Freel could be a possible bench solution as the Orioles are looking to dump him.
Attached his 2008 situational stats.
http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/p.....008/182270
Putting Hughes in the pen doesn’t make any more sense than putting Joba in the pen.
It wasn’t that long ago that the Yanks had too many outfielders. That all changed by the eighth game of the season.
It also wasn’t that long ago that the Yanks had too many decent bullpen arms that guys like Melancon and Robertson were sent to Scranton to begin the season.
Now they don’t have enough bullpen arms with Bruney going down and guys like Veras, Ramirez, and Albaladejo being so inconstant.
Hughes remains a starter. Anybody in that rotation could come up lame at anytime and they are going to need all the rotation depth they can get.
Oh, Aunt Becca. Really?
I’m no snob or baseball purist, but I’d like to believe that the game can and should be played with some integrity. Just because they can do it, doesn’t mean they should. And yes, I do believe the greats of the past would’ve used them if they were available.
But there’s something very appealing about a man with integrity.
Boston Dave, he was low 90s as a starter in 2007, which is where he should be. I actually missed his performance in the playoffs that year – I got married that day (1 day after IPK for what its worth) – but if he was mid-90s maybe it was because he was further into the season, arm was nice and loose, and was letting it all hang out for his first postseason performance.
GF,
I agree… It’s interesting to me how many people were shocked at Joba’s performance, as if he hadn’t been capable of it before.
If he has a bad outing next time out, it will flip flop back anyway. “Joba got lucky, he should be in the pen after all.”
Can’t take any chances with Mo. If something had happened and he was out for a couple of weeks or longer, who is your closer? Mo is basically lights out when he comes in. He cannot be replaced and is the only reliable arm in the pen.
“I actually missed his performance in the playoffs that year – I got married that day”
——
what the heck were you thinking???
(I don’t mean missing the game
)
The Red Sox and their nation had washed their hands of Manny when he was traded away. As far as they’re concerned he’s dead to them. Like Nomar. Like Damon. Gone from the recesses of their minds.
At least there’s some good news on Bruney:
http://www.nj.com/yankees/inde.....relie.html
NEW YORK — Yankees reliever Brian Bruney said he felt no pain in his injured right elbow after he resumed throwing for the first time since Saturday. Bruney made 30 throws from 60 feet off flat ground on Thursday. He will lengthen his throws over time to 90 feet before throwing off the mound.
Bruney, who suffered a setback in his recovery when the team shut him down, has been on the disabled list since April 25 with a flexor muscle strain in his right elbow. The bullpen has struggled in the absence of Bruney, who just prior to the injury had seized the team’s primary set-up role.
“Cheating is as much a part of the game as rosin bags and pine tar.”
From what I’ve been able to ascertain that’s true unfortunately…doesn’t make it right though…
But it has been going on for decades in one form or other…corked bats, stealing signs, greenies…
Given that cheating seems to be a systemic problem spanning decades why do you think steroid abuse in particular has garnered so much media attention?
congrats on the marriage vin
Boston Dave,
Crazy, I know. At least she’s not a Sox fan or anything.
I still think the Yankees will move one of the RH starters in the minors into the bullpen ala Phil Coke. Maybe it’s Hacker, Horne once he builds up innings, Kontos? Who knows?
“The Red Sox and their nation had washed their hands of Manny when he was traded away. As far as they’re concerned he’s dead to them. Like Nomar. Like Damon. Gone from the recesses of their minds.”
David Ortiz and his 0 HR’s remain as a constant reminder.
The real issue is, if our starters could give us 7 quality, <100 pitch outings, then we wouldn’t be having any talk about Joba or Hughes to the pen. The way are starters and relievers are going now, Neither Joba or Rivera[ who pitched for the 1st time in a week last night] would be handed a lead in the 8th and 9th innings, and therefore would languish on the bench.
SA, thanks, I like to think they won the 1 playoff game in honor of my (wifes’) big day. Watching the Sox dismantle Cleveland was at least a little easier to stomach when watching from the pool in Maui.
vin
May 7th, 2009 at 6:47 pm
Boston Dave, he was low 90s as a starter in 2007, which is where he should be. I actually missed his performance in the playoffs that year – ***I got married that day (1 day after IPK for what its worth*** – but if he was mid-90s maybe it was because he was further into the season, arm was nice and loose, and was letting it all hang out for his first postseason performance.
Yeah. Look at his career since then. See what you have to look foreward to? Your career is right down the dumper.
i wonder how 12-15 year old kids are taking this type of news with manny and arod. when i was a kid/teen, if i found out mattingly did that, it would’ve crushed me.
Boston Dave,
The only people who are shocked by Joba’s performance the last couple of starts are the people who only know him as a set-up guy.
Those of us who followed Joba’s career BEFORE he ever threw a pitch for the big club understand just how special this guy can be if people would just leave him the hell alone and let him take the ball every five days.
He has abilities that Hughes doesn’t. Plain and simple. Not only his stuff and arsenal of pitches – but his overall mental makeup at such a young age.
That’s why Joba’s long term role has always been a no-brainer to me since 2007. Making him the sacrificial lamb to fix the bullpen is a horrendously stupid idea.
The vast majority of those who never saw what Joba was capable of before August of 2007 are in the bullpen camp.
Okay, I am going to be watching tonight’s game to see the Andy/Molina combination. I know Andy is someone who doesn’t like to call his own games so I’ll be interested in seeing how it goes.
And if when I put on ExtraInnings I can get a signal maybe I’ll get to see it! The one downside to satellite is that when tere is a weather front (raining hard here), you lose the picture. I had it on YES and it was fine and then the signal went out. I don’t know whether the YES broadcast on Extra Innings will be any different. I guess I could always opt for the Rays broadcast if I don’t get it on EI, or I could watch online, assuming it’s YES.
LOL… maybe I should’ve lived the Derek Jeter lifestyle instead. Unfortunately, a few too many factors prevented me from living that lifestyle.
Unlike IPK, my company has faith in me.
The homer Mo gave up to Bay could of been his 1st or 50th pitch. It was a bad pitch and Bay crushed it. Mo can go more than 3 outs as evidenced by the fact that his 31st pitch and last pitch against Boston was a K pitch that night. That being said using him last last would of been a mistake. Mo needs to be available every night to possibly close. If he isn’t who is going to close in that situation?
Hughes was great against the Indians in that playoff game more so for the mixing up his pitches and movement than velocity. He was around 91-92 but that was more than enough. He reached It was a tease as he didn’t have that approach last year.
What a great day. Relapse leaks and Eminem is back. A-Rod is back tomorrow. A Yankee win tonight would complete the day.
IPK isn’t the best athlete in his house:)
“And if when I put on ExtraInnings I can get a signal maybe I’ll get to see it! The one downside to satellite is that when tere is a weather front (raining hard here), you lose the picture. ”
Sounds like the downside is living in place that gets rain. Viva Las Vegas!
Hughes was awesome in the playoff against the Indians but it was more due to the fact that the Indians were awful against curveball pitchers. Olney or Kruk touched on this during the series actually.
Either way, that curveball was not there last year for Hughes.
vin -
snow is even worse!
Viva Las Vegas!!!!!
I have YES on mlb.com, but YES television appeared again. But this way if television goes out I will just switch right over to internet. Interestingly the internet is ahead of television!
CJ is reporting that Steven Jackson will make at least one other start for SWB. He went four innings today and should take long to have hin stretched out a bit. I still think there is room for him or Aceves as the long guy. The other one could be a one inning guy instead of a Veras or Albie.
“Either way, that curveball was not there last year for Hughes.”
Which makes the development of his cutter all the more important. If he can’t command the curveball, at least he can throw something that the batters can’t center.
Are you kidding me already lol
Just the way we wanted it to start.
Well, that’s not the best start to the game
Agreed Vin. I saw him pitch for SWB and was blown away when I saw the movement. Just wish he could have got a couple of more starts on the farm. He was still working on a lot of pitches when I saw him.
vin
May 7th, 2009 at 6:59 pm
LOL… maybe I should’ve lived the Derek Jeter lifestyle instead. Unfortunately, a few too many factors prevented me from living that lifestyle.
Unlike IPK, my company has faith in me.
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LMAO. I’m sure that your wife is a fine lady. I just remember what my high school coach told me. “Women ruin athletes. If you feel the need, throw a dollar in the trunk of your car and go to your room. at the end of the year, you could buy a new car or at least have a big party.” Then there’s this jewel from Casey Stengel, “There’s nothing wrong with being with women. It’s staying up all night looking for them that kills you.”
Ugh.
Possibly there goes my theory – or – Andy is tipping his pitches since Singleton said that the homerun pitch was a really good one.
The report is that Carl Crawford has the worst arm in the Rays outfield. CAN YOU IMAGINE????? I’d kill for that outfield.
okay dp
2-0.
I Hate PENA!!!!
Fail Fail Fail
We suck again!
probably never would throw him a fastball ever.
Check Carlos Pena’s fertility levels!
hCG if I ever saw it…
2-0 could be 20-0 with the effectiveness of our offense..
After last night, Pena should get a steady diet of offspeed stuff.
22 pitches for andy
LOL @ GB7/Casey.
I know you didn’t listen to your HS coach because you always remark on your ex. The siren’s call gets everyone of us eventually.
Pete, I agree – Girardi played that one right. When you are tied at home, you usually play your bullpen in reverse if possible – closer in the ninth, setup man in the 10th, and so on. Obviously you can stretch these guys if you want, but with Mo that does not seem wise. Plus, pitching two innings last night could mean not pitching one tonight. At some point you need to throw your other guys out there. The bullpen was really good last night, just gave up the big one at the end.
Billy, I think Pena needs to be moved back…a bit of chin music wouldn’t hurt.
We probably lose tonight and the A-Rod is our savior talks can talk by all the homers after the game.
This is just getting ridiculous. Just once before the all star break I would like to see a game start out favorable for this team.
This is just getting ridiculous. Just once before the all star break I would like to see a game start out favorable for this team.
EPIC Fail…this team stinks. So, who is coming out of the bullpen early tonight? Another abbreviated outing by a starter who wont get through 5. Unbelievable. Just unbelievable.
Aceves today?
Get the bullpen ready. Andy has thrown 30 pitches in the 1st.
I ask again, are we cursed?
31 pitches for Andy, Aceves come on down!
Game over. Yankees win! That’s my call.
The real question is, did Boston Dave visit La Taqueria?
wow, this team makes you think, ‘why bother?’
31 pitches for Andy
I’m ready to do a “runs dance”
vin
May 7th, 2009 at 7:19 pm
LOL @ GB7/Casey.
I know you didn’t listen to your HS coach because you always remark on your ex. The siren’s call gets everyone of us eventually.
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Yep. She was an evil woman. She took advantage of me. I was totally helpless in her clutches. I was too much of a gentleman to argue with her.
this will be a 1, 2, 3 inning.
Ready to get shutdown?
I hate to be Capt. Obvious, but they really need to jump on Niemann early.
Benny, as someone who is willing to err on the side of caution, if I were the Cubs I would bring a goat into Wrigley.
Therefore I would advocate that all of the Tampa employees who were upset that they didn’t get 2000 World Series rings get fixed up quick like a bunny.
Better not let a almost 6 era guy shut us out
What’s a “runs dance”? Is that when the team plays so poorly it gives you the runs so bad you are dancing? If so then by all means join the rest of us.
Jetah!
can we score?
and that is how you lead off! Thanks Jete
Boston Dave-
How was Yoga?
Uncle Ellsworth
No! have you not been watching?
Tex will have another shot at atonement.
Hey last night we would have tied the game
plenty of good seats still available!
is anyone else embarrassed by what a laughing stock we’ve become.
Damon is so steady.
No reason not to plate at least one run here…
Tex fails to get the run in!
Wow….
just wow.
We found a reason! We want A-Rod!
4-34 risp.
Thata boy Tex! You’re great!
I know a place in Jersey where we can get a goat. I don’t think my car is big enough for it though
Seriously, when was the last time we led early in a game?
I honestly can’t remember.
What happened to that vaunted Yankee starting pitching? I knew the bullpen would be weak, but not the starters.
Can’t wait until A-Rod returns tomorrow so we can have two guys who can’t hit in the clutch.
Rays just toying with us, a championship ballclub gets fired up with this.
Cano sucks again. Tell him to close his stance again.
180 mil for nothing.
“Seriously, when was the last time we led early in a game?
I honestly can’t remember.”
6-0 against Boston. Didn’t help.
I think the last time they led early in a game was the Saturday game in Boston.
They also had a lead in the Sunday game but I think that was after the 3rd inning or so.
Lest anyone think the Yankees are the only AL East team with holes in the lineup, I present to you tonight’s Bosox starting nine:
Lugo
Pedroia
Bay
Lowell
Baldelli
Drew
Bailey
Green
Kottaras
Yet they still find a way.
So an old senile lady is walking up the hall of an old folks home raising her dress and yelling “super sex super sex super sex”!
The old man at the end of the hall says….”I’ll have the soup”.
Can you tell this team bores me?
Buddy: you really care how yoga was? That’s a stretch.
(sorry)
S.A.–It’s a marathon, not a sprint. Calm down.
May 7th, 2009 at 7:31 pm
I know a place in Jersey where we can get a goat. I don’t think my car is big enough for it though
I’m not even gonna ask.
Sometimes you just run out of things to say.
I always think of what the Yankee managers would say when a team that should be excelling is flat as a pancake: We know we’re better than that.
So all I can do is wait for them to show what they really have when they are playing to their potential. Seriously.
Sometimes you just run out of things to say.
Who needs a goat…we have tex and alex starting tomorrow
That might as well be it with this team.
They are 0 fer the homestand with runners at 3rd with less than 2 outs.
The problem is not injuries or any other ridiculous excuse. The problem is that they continue to suck with runners on base, and especially the FREE RUNS like runners at 3rd, less than 2 outs.
Scoring a run in that spot changes the entire complexion of the game and swings all the momentum away from Tampa. Not scoring those runs is the single largest contributor to these losses, as the other team just goes out there, tacks on more runs, and the game is already over.
You can argue that nearly every game on this homestand has been lost as the result of failing with runners at 3rd, less than 2 outs.
Game 1- 2nd inning, they don’t get him in, lose by 2 runs but the momentum being lost put them down a lot to start.
Game 2- Down 1 in the 6th they fail, they still have a chance all night but boston tacks on put away runs
Game 3- Bottom 10, down 1, Teix pops out on 2-0, that certainly lost the game directly.
Game 4- Runner at 3rd, 1 out, first inning, Teix AGAIN fails. No runs score, down 2 before they even swing. Do they lose? If Tampa can keep their momentum going because of our failure, it could be over soon.
“I was too much of a gentleman to argue with her.”
Oh suuuure…
its beginning to get sad…..no life at all and if you think A-Rod is going to help forget it!!!!! its hard to watch them
Another lead off double, another runner stranded for 3 outs. This team is beginning to foster losing in a bad way. The pitching is forcing the hitting to make stupid decisions at the plate.
Anyone know what the league record for the lowest ave for RISP is for a team? Yankees have to be near that low.
When arod retuns,the yankees will be the only team in MLb, who’s fans will boo the 3 & 4 hitter back to back.
A couple of New Jersey hunters are out in the woods when one of them falls to the ground. He doesn’t seem to be breathing, his eyes are rolled back in his head. The other guy whips out his cell phone and calls the emergency services. He gasps to the operator: “My friend is dead! What can I do?”
The operator, in a calm soothing voice says: “Just take it easy. I can help. First, let’s make sure he’s dead.” There is a silence, then a shot is heard.
The guy’s voice comes back on the line. He says: “OK, now what?“
Yes, that Boston lineup is putrid, but a 1-0 lead in the 2nd doesn’t necessarily mean they ‘found a way’. Then again, Cy Wakefield is pitching, so who knows.
Dear Mark Texiera
You are not good at me.
Love, Baseball
Clearly this is the worst team, dollar-for-dollar, in baseball. Maybe ever.
This squad reminds me of the time years ago when Coach John McKay was asked about his Tampa Bay Bucs during one of their usual crappy seasons of the 70′s. “What do you think of your team’s execution?”
His reply “I am in favor of it” ….
I really think they are going to need a major overhaul after this year. It’s a very flawed team.
S.A. but the goat is for the Cubs. Know anywhere we can get about 20 2000 World Series rings?
Just walked in..
Oh gawd.
If the Yanks are upset about empty seats right now, imagine how many empty seats there will be in June if we’re 20 games out.
My friends at the game…says theres Fire Joe chants in the upper deck.
“Girardi isn’t doing that on his own. That’s coming from above.
They probably haven’t finished the conference call with Arod and the doctors and don’t want to “officially” say anything until the call is concluded.
So, Girardi has to take the bullet here.”
Well said.
In an earlier entry it was noted that Alex said that they will have a conference call to decide. Still, people do not care. Just criticize Girardi for no reason. In fact, it was also written a day or two earlier that A-Rod would like to take a day off. Probably they convinced him during the call not to take the day off.
“Clearly this is the worst team, dollar-for-dollar, in baseball. Maybe ever.”
Couldn’t agree more, get paid like Kings and play like peasants.
A man and a friend are playing golf one day at their local golf course. One of the guys is about to chip onto the green when he sees a long funeral procession on the road next to the course. He stops in mid-swing, takes off his golf cap, closes his eyes, and bows down in prayer.
His friend says: “Wow, that is the most thoughtful and touching thing I have ever seen. You truly are a kind man.”
The man then replies: “Yeah, well we were married 35 years.”
“Clearly this is the worst team, dollar-for-dollar, in baseball. Maybe ever.”
Last year’s Tigers may disagree with that assessment.
LMAO at swish rofl
S.A. but the goat is for the Cubs. Know anywhere we can get about 20 2000 World Series rings?
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20 World Series rings for the 2000 season? Uh..
Well, maybe they would accept the goat instead? They could all take turns taking care of it.
Yankees…I wish I knew how to quit you!
Man and wife are laying bed asleep when the phone rings.
Husband answers and says “What, how the hell should I know that’s 20 miles from here” and hangs up.
Wife rolls over and says “who was that dear?”
Husband says “I don’t know some A@3hole wanted to know if the coast is clear”
I’m gonna continue my comedy routine…the only way I stop is if they start shelling Niemann.
You guys want corny jokes all night?
Then tell them to start hitting!
I’m on the verge of turning into Jerome in Manhattan.
This isnt good.
Anyone got any good knock knock jokes?
Melky with a walk
Swish is utterly insane. But I love him anyway.
So one old guy is talking to his buddy about a great italian restaurant he went to the night before. The friend asked what the name of the restaurant was. The old guy thought an thought then asked the other guy “what’s the name of that red flower you give to your wife on valentine’s day?”
The friend replied “a rose?”
The man said “oh yeah” looking at his wife said “hey Rose what was the name of that restaurant last night?”
The Yankees offense is just that – offensive
Knock Knock
Who’s there?
911
911 who?
I thought you would never forget!
Why are YES’s Toyota text poll questions always about the opposing team? I mean find something else to ask in a losing effort besides a POG poll that has only the opposing players.
Zach- That is very bad!! Very bad. I pray for you.
Wife: Would you re-marry if I die before you?
Husband: I guess I would.
Wife: Would you give your new wife all my things, my car, my jewelry, my clothes, my golf clubs.
Husband: Sure, why not. Everything except the golf clubs, she’s left handed.
Too bad that wasn’t meals.
A woman gets on a bus with her baby. The bus driver says: “That’s the ugliest baby that I’ve ever seen. Ugh!” The woman goes to the rear of the bus and sits down, fuming. She says to a man next to her: “The driver just insulted me!”
The man says: “You go right up there and tell him off – go ahead, I’ll hold your monkey for you.”
Two muffins were sitting in an oven. One muffin said to the other, “Is it just me, or is it getting hot in here?”
And the other muffin said, “Aaaaugh! A talking muffin!!!”
I’m out of here a losing game thread with lame jokes is pretty much all I can take.
Knock knock.
Who’s there?
Melky.
Melky who?
Shut up, brettisgod.
A mushroom walks into a bar, and the bar tender says, “We don’t serve your kind here.” The mushroom replies, “Aw, c’mon. I’m a fungi”
Seems like the Yanks will never win again. We should be hearing from Hank soon that they are not playing like true Yankees. But it is a bit harder to say your team sucks when you are trying to sell a considerable amount of seats.
One of us should do a comedy routine at the stadium before the game one day…
maybe under the…uhhhh…maybe under The O’neil Banner..
Nick in SF can join us via webcam.
Nick in SF May 7th, 2009 at 7:52 pm
Knock knock.
Who’s there?
Melky.
Melky who?
Shut up, brettisgod.
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lol
I wonder how brettisgod is taking things
Where my jokes that bad?
Lame jokes are a great way to rid ourselves of the Debbie Downers.
Carry on.
Molina with an inside the park 3 run homer!!
It has come to this: Comedy Night on Lohud.
Have it your way, Al.
Pretty interesting looking at the Tampa Yankees boxscore tonight. Former Oriole pitcher Adam Loewen is playing RF for Dunedin. So far he is awful with the bat this year. Loewen was another pitcher that the Yankees made look like a HOFer.
Pretty interesting looking at the Tampa Yankees boxscore tonight. Former Oriole pitcher Adam Loewen is playing RF for Dunedin. So far he is awful with the bat this year. Loewen was another pitcher that the Yankees made look like a HOFer.
Two guys are sitting on a bar stool. One starts to insult the other one. He screams, “I slept with your mother!” The bar gets quiet as everyone listens to see what the other weasel will do. The first again yells, “I SLEPT WITH YOUR MOTHER!”
The other says, “Go home dad you’re drunk.”
This is absolutely, undoubtedly pathetic.
Knock Knock
Who’s there?
Molina
Molina who?
I just grounded into a double play.
Jose runs like he has a piano on his back.
pathetic.
What’s the difference between trash and girls from New Jersey? Trash only gets picked up twice a week.
Texan: “Where are you from?”
Harvard grad: “I come from a place where we do not end our sentences with prepositions.”
Texan: “Okay – where are you from, jackass?”
Al’s posts weren’t jokes?
hCG is not a steroid… period
and welcome back A-ROD… finally we will have a great 3-4-5
different date… same aged yankees…. FIRE CASHMAN!!!!
$200 million dollar payroll…we can’t get a frickin back-up catcher who can hit?? How bout one who can run down to first-base in under 10 seconds?
Hey, I like Jersey girls.
1 hit against newman…I’m going to barf!
Jason Bartlett is someone to feared now, apparently.
q: what’s the difference between a
porcupine and a bar on long beach
island?
a: the porcupine has the pricks on the
outside
Jeter
Damon
Teixeira
Rodriguez
Matsui
Posada
Cano
Swisher
Cabrera
That is a nasty lineup when everybody is finally healthy… absolutely no holes
No offense to Jersey girls – I’m a Jersey guy.
“And the other muffin said, “Aaaaugh! A talking muffin!!!” ”
Funny how this one made me laugh the most.
I come home after a 15 hr day with work and find they are already down 2-0 with HR’s… Does this crap ever end??
we make every starter look like cy young. this guy went 3 innings his last start gave up 6 runs and 7 hits.
Have I entered the twilight zone.
What a deal Young for Garza and Bartlett.
“A woman gets on a bus with her baby. The bus driver says: “That’s the ugliest baby that I’ve ever seen. Ugh!” The woman goes to the rear of the bus and sits down, fuming. She says to a man next to her: “The driver just insulted me!”
The man says: “You go right up there and tell him off – go ahead, I’ll hold your monkey for you.””
Welcome to Groundhog Day in Yankeeland. yankee starter gives up early runs, puts them in a hole. Yankee “hitters” come up with men on third, less than two outs, cannot deliver. Yankees lose. Over and over and over. Pathetic.
John was in trouble, really big trouble. You see, he forgot his wedding anniversary and, if you’re married, you can imagine what he’s probably going through. His wife was really pissed.
She told him “Tomorrow morning, I expect to find a gift in the driveway that goes from 0 to 200 in 6 seconds AND IT BETTER BE THERE!” She was serious too, so John got serious.
The next morning he woke up early and left for work. When his wife woke up, she looked out the window and sure enough there was a box gift-wrapped, right there in the middle of the driveway. Confused, the wife threw her robe on and ran out to the driveway, brought the box back in the house and opened in with much anticipation.
Inside she found a brand new bathroom scale. John has been missing since Thursday.
Good one Tom
I would use Seaside Heights.
Sterling gem of the day:
” You know what they call teams that don’t hit with RISP? Losers”
Tom in N.J.
Change the Bar on long beach island to “Fenway Park” and you got a winner.
Tom, you can use that same format with vacuums and motorcycles – where the dirt bag is on the Inside of the vacuum.
Ok it is over now. Good night.
nice!!!!!!! FIRE CASHMAN!!!!
Game over. I love this team. Can’t hit. Can’t pitch. Can’t do anything.
yes… wait, we arent tampa bay?
it’s a malaise
Wait, wait… I have a joke for you!
THE YANKEES
Wait, wait… I have a joke for you!
THE YANKEES
A doctor says to his patient, “I have bad news and worse news”.
“Oh dear, what’s the bad news?” asks the patient.
The doctor replies, “You only have 24 hours to live.”
“That’s terrible”, said the patient. “How can the news possibly be worse?”
The doctor replies, “I’ve been trying to contact you since yesterday.”
Yeah, we might need a goat and a chicken
2009 Yankees… The Multi Million Antiques…. FIRE CASHMAN!!!!!
S.A.
Good stuff!
Johnny Damon will hit a 3 run home run this game. We will lose by 3.
And the Yankees lose again without a whimper.
Pitiful. Runner at 3rd, less than 2 outs, don’t score, then GIDP last inning, and bam Tampa puts us away.
That’s what happens when you CONTINUE to let a bad pitcher off the hook. He settles in, and the other team puts up the put away, tack on runs.
This is all the fault of the OFFENSE. If they could score even ONE RUN and break the other team’s momentum, the pitching would get a chance to settle in, but when you have to make a perfect pitch EVERY PITCH or it’s game over, it’s impossible for them to pitch well.
“This squad reminds me of the time years ago when Coach John McKay was asked about his Tampa Bay Bucs during one of their usual crappy seasons of the 70’s. “What do you think of your team’s execution?”
His reply “I am in favor of it” ….
I really think they are going to need a major overhaul after this year. It’s a very flawed team.”
Some of us have been saying “major overhaul” for the Yanks for 4 or 5 years now. When are they going to finally fire Cashman?
get off the fire cashman crap.
“Inside she found a brand new bathroom scale. John has been missing since Thursday.”
That’s good too. Wasn’t sure where it was going.
Has anyone else noticed Suzyn’s latest annoying habit of giving a depressed moan whenever something bad happens? Ex:
John: Here’s the pitch to Longoria… it’s back, a way back…
Suzyn:
John: it is… GONE!
That was an f’n pop-up. That wasn’t hit hard at all.
what about the old classic:
Guy walks into a bar..
…ouch.
I cannot believe how poorly we are pitching. This is insane.
Hey Andy!!! Can’t pitch without HGH buddy??? FIRE CASHMAN!!!!
It’s destined that we lose tonight, then start winning when A Rod returns. Makes for a better sequel for Selena Roberts.
another long night for the pen
Got to agree with Francesa. Starting pitching is clearly not important. The 8th inning is the key and Joba should definitely be moved to the pen.
[/sarcasm]
http://instantrimshot.com/
Longoria crushed that. Take the blinders off
Seriously, this team is d-o-n-e. I can’t even remember the last time these underachievers had a lead.
I’m ready for football season already. Go Giants.
How in God’s name can one team with so much talent suck this hard? How????
“2009 Yankees… The Multi Million Antiques…. FIRE CASHMAN!!!!!”
What will firing Cashman do? Who do they bring in thats better?
“2009 Yankees… The Multi Million Antiques…. FIRE CASHMAN!!!!!”
What will firing Cashman do? Who do they bring in thats better?
If that was a pop up, our hitters suck so bad they can’t even hit pop ups.
we make other teams look good
Hey, Tex, give me ONE good reason why cashman shouldn’t be fired?
2nd and 3rd nobody out for Wakefield. 0-1 Sox leading.
GO TRIBE!
Nick-
Just found out that Verizon Fios is coming to the Bay Area, not sure when though, but YES network is included.
I believe the win will ultimately be more satisfying and cathartic as a big come-from-behind win.
““2009 Yankees… The Multi Million Antiques…. FIRE CASHMAN!!!!!”
What will firing Cashman do? Who do they bring in thats better?”
Gene Michael the guy built our championship teams, Cashman was riding his coat-tails.
Hmmm I guess you need a GM that can pitch and hit with RISP. Bunch of clowns.
Is Pettitte going to protect our guys or is Niemann allowed to just throw at our guys without recourse?
“carl
May 7th, 2009 at 8:08 pm
If that was a pop up, our hitters suck so bad they can’t even hit pop ups.
”
ha that what I was thinking, I’ll try to stay positive
Wakefield’s knuclker wild pitches behind the catcher. 1-1.
Wakefield hits the next batter.
Runners on 1st and 3rd, nobody out.
At least it’s exciting…
Geez! Pena was in our and the Red Sox minors in one season. He was signed by Tampa and was cut until Gabe Gross was hurt. Tampa brought him back and he hasn’t stopped hitting.
I do wonder…..
Buddy, that’s good news. I presume you can’t get DirecTV for some reason in your new home?
Tell me they’re not doing an ice cream commercial during an inning?
Sheesh – that’s what ruined the radio broadcasts.
Awwww. Sac fly (those happen with other teams).
Cleveland 2-1
reason: because he isnt the one who cant pitch and cannot hit. we asked him to get pitching, he got cc and aj, we got swish and tex.
what else can he do?
c’mon TEX!!! we gotta get some home here..
How sad is it that this Turkey Hill pinstripe ice cream segment is actually better than the game?
And as I complain, Johnny Damon with a basehit.
Teix has to do something sooner or later.
Brace for Tex pop-up or GIDP.
“20 World Series rings for the 2000 season? Uh..
Well, maybe they would accept the goat instead? They could all take turns taking care of it.”
Okay Tex, please get a hit. I pray for you to get a hit.
Turkey Hill Stranded Runner Delight…
god damn might as well bunt and sacrifice.
The game isn’t over yet!
Warning track power!
thats it, move tex down the lineup
Hey Tex! Welcome to arod land.
good lord.. seriously, who thought we would get another expensive free agent that could actually make us MISS Arod??
Nobody could tag on that?????????
Cripes.
Nobody could tag on that?????????
Cripes.
Cash signed CC and Texiera. Big deal. He also has BY FAR the biggest checkbook. How about actually putting together a working bench or bullpen? Yes, he signed some big names guys in CC and Tex. He also signed his share of incredible big names busts. Pavano, Brown, Vazquez. He has not distinguished himself.
please dont leave cano with bases loaded.
its like seeing clooney as batman and then deciding you miss val kilmer.. this is ridiculous.
The problem was that Jeter did not get to 3rd on Damon’s hit. Then he has an easy tag for a run.
Come on, let’s get the corny jokes back on. At least it distracts from this farce.
trisha- Yeah I don’t get it why couldn’t he tag up?
This team lacks guts and focus. Girardi’s seat is getting hotter by the day. Unless they climb out of this funk and soon, the rumors will be flying and the proverbial vote of confidence will be given which usually means a team is looking at another direction.
Cause Jeter is old and he is only getting older. What in the world is going to happen in two years.
My husband is at the stadium and just called me during Tex’s AB and the boos came through the phone loud and clear.
I knew you were bluffing, Al from BK. Just knew it. You’re addicted to commenting on losing Yankee baseball.
bartlett can get the ball over the wall, tex gets it to the track.
Seth I agree….i’m waiting for the days till I hear who Girardi’s potential replacements will be.
Tex should be hitting 8th until he shows he really can hit.
two on, no out, no runs. third inning in a row we waste these chances.
Matsui flew out on ball 4.
is bobby v still in japan? lol..
It’s like as soon as we get a runner in scoring position, we get 3 automatic outs. The most clutch hitter on this team is A-Rod now, and that’s only because he’s not playing yet :/
Who takes the rap for this? I mean, eventually, something needs to be said, something needs to be done, even if that means someone gets axed. This team looks completely inept in almost every facet of the game.
“Tex has to do something sooner or later.”
Later it is then.
Can’t keep letting opposing pitchers off the hook. Seems like the middle of the order is only good at starting a rally and not finishing one (by knocking in the runs, that is).
While I think that Girardi and the other coaches aren’t awful, someone needs to be fired. Spark this team make them accountable for what they are doing.
These guys wanted to build a modern day Coliseum and instead they built a mausoleum. Its dead as can be. A $1.5 Billion mistake that has taken the mystique from our team.
This is disgusting. I feel bad (sorry) for this team.
god damn. anyone still have something positive to say?
can we just let the AAA guys play? we can lose without these other overpaid clowns..
The stadium isn’t why this team is playing bad.
Sometimes you just run out of things to say.
once again, another year, same sh*t, different year….let’s go for 10 years in a row of overpaid, underachieving slugs that can’t even advance a runner, when leading off the inning with your 1 and 2 batters reaching base…..SICK !
stop whining about how dead it is. it is dead because the team sucks. what should they be cheering about exactly?
““2009 Yankees… The Multi Million Antiques…. FIRE CASHMAN!!!!!”
What will firing Cashman do? Who do they bring in thats better?”
BETTER drafts….BETTER free agents…somebody who will look beyond the names and look for free agents that are suited for this city and this team….
FIRE CASHMAN!!!
What is there to say?
What a disgrace – absolute disgrace.
Tex – move the damn runners over you hack!!!
Matsui – take the walk you bum!!!
Remember how po’d Pettitte was last year because he got no run support?
Think AJ and CC want to take the mound next? No thanks.
Thats my first real problem with Girardis decisions. Matsui has been swinging at bad pitches in key situations and he let him swing 3-0 and he swung at ball 4 on the 4th pitch of the at bat.
Then he swings at another bordrline pitch to fly out weakly.
Never swing 3-0 in that situation. We would have had bases loaded and Cano has a different at bat.
This is BS
Does anyone remember Tex hitting a bases-clearing double in the rain last night? I think that really happened. Tex will be fine!
my god, whats it now like 4 for last 40 with RISP..pathetic
DISGRACEFUL.
DISGRACEFUL.
What is Matsui thinking? 3-0 pitch, he has 3BB in the game, and you swing at freaking ball 4, then fly out weakly on 3-1. NEWS FLASH:
YOU DO NOT NEED TO HIT A HOME RUN TO GET BACK IN A GAME.
This team is a joke. They all swing for the fences every time a runner is on. YOU JUST NEED A FREAKING SINGLE, SCORE ONE RUN, GET YOURSELF BACK IN THE GAME?
This team continually gets shut out for multiple innings in a row because of this terrible approach. The pitching then gives up tack on runs because they feel they have to be perfect, and instead of needing a few hits now you REALLY need 3 run HR to get back in the game.
This is all the fault of the offense. Whether Pettitte gives up 10 or 2 is irrelevant if they score 0 for the first 4 or 5 innings.
so he hit one hit in 22 abs with risp? is that supposed to make up for the other times? he will be fine but he isnt now and that is a problem.
the reason i cant blame cash for this is we appeared to have a lot of depth at the start of the season.. the bullpen we knew was going to be full of drama.. but who would have thought our hitting would be THIS TERRIBLE? i know i didnt..
Wow, move over bullpen. The inability of this team to score a run is more worrisome to me right now
More RISP, more LOB. SSDD.
Stop hitting balls to damon.
Good point I am seriously a very positive person but I am finding it nearly impossible to stay positive. This team is literally worthless in every facet. They tear your heart out by finding ways to lose.
How can we say anything positive Tex?? Do you see anything positive out of losing 5 in a row to Boston and now a sweep by Tampa in our own stadium? Get real?? This team is lifeless. They are professionals and get paid alot to perform.. I am disgusted to even wear my Yankee gear anywhere here in NH.. I’d feel more proud to wear my NY Islanders gear right now!
The Rays are getting dunk in hits that we cant even buy right now. Mark Teixeira isnt as good as a guy making the minimum.
How can a team be so inept with runners in scoring position?
IMO it is the pressure of playing in this town, where every game is a season.
Collective failure is a sign the pressure is getting to them.
Same goes for the bullpen, where every pitch could decide the game.
This team is boo boo.
I agree – someone needs to be fired.
This goes back now too far.
Kevin Long – walk the plank, sir.
so what is Girardi’s fault tonight?
Tex, matsui, and cano cannot get a hit when it matters, i assume that is girardi’s fault.
also andy the lifetime pas pettitte 3 Hrs in 3 innings…..
nothing going right at the moment.. I can’t even see the game I know niemann has nothing but he is getting out of trouble all night…
Hey Matt,
Do me a favor. Look at your keyboard. On the lefthand side, there is a key that says tab, directly under that is a key that says caps lock. Press it once. Then try and make your point.
I rather watch paint dry then to watch this offense right now.
Watch the Rays get this guy in now – fundamentally.
I cant even remember the last time the yankees won a game
I can’t even watch anymore.
I, for one, am also not worried about Texiera. I’m worried about the comedy of errors that this team is…just like this play that Molina just (didnt) pull off. They literally aren’t doing anything right, except losing. When something good can be said, than it will be said. But for now, there is no reason to cheer for this team, or to say anything good. The best thing to cheer about all night was Ramiro Pena’s at-bat…and that was a walk.
Agree with you Nick, Tex has a bad month and a week and all of a sudden were giving up on a guy who has had 5 straight 30 homer 100 rbi seasons. One month and a week is not a season.
no i dont see anything positive. i am annoyed other people are still trying to tell us to chill out and it is only may.
While I think that Girardi and the other coaches aren’t awful, someone needs to be fired. Spark this team make them accountable for what they are doing.
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How does firing Girardi make players making 15-20 million guaranteed accountable?
why cant we have gardener AND melky in our lineup?? yes damon is the only one hitting but when only one person is hitting we’re going to lose anyway so why not have a guy in left that can play better defense since damon is obviously hurting or has lost his ability to dive for a ball
When is last time yanks won? last friday?
everyone is killing the line up right now. But even if they were hitting it wouldnt matter the way Andy has been pitching.
Here’s an interesting timely article on ticket prices.
http://www.theonion.com/conten.....low_lesser
no one is giving up on tex…
it absolutely doesnt excuse .205 and 1 hit in 25 abs with runners on.
come on Andy
Last time Yanks won was come from behind on Friday. Essentially we haven’t won in a week.
Doesn’t Kapler look a lot thinner?
RE: the offense. They’re all trying to hit homeruns. So frustrating.
Here’s the problem with Tex…right now we need production out of that part of the order, since we’ve got the town softball league batting 7,8,9.
Tex is picking a helluva time to NOT produce.
GGBG takes pitches and struggles to make contact. That’s all we need is another automatic out. He’s a big spark when he makes outs. He doesn’t have the bat to takes the pitches he is taking.
Yes he got a hit off Pap but even a blind squirrel can find an acorn.
Is Molina really that great of a defensive catcher? I never see him throw anyone out, its generally not even close. He gave up a big past ball this week? Just dont see what’s so great about him defensively.
Where is this Cervelli kid? Get him in there before Molina gets hurt playing everyday….. Clueless Joe!!!
We may be watching YES, but there is no way this is Yankees baseball.
Wow, surprised it didn’t go out
Jeter Done.
Posada well Done
Petite well Done.
Mo medium.
the yankees are old and its is time the fans open their eyes and see it. This team is going nowhere unless they start drafting players and rebuild fast or it is a train wreck.
“How does firing Girardi make players making 15-20 million guaranteed accountable?”
Makes them realize that people are losing their jobs because of their poor play. Players making that kind of money can become comfortable and this could be the case. How many times has a team fired their coaches and then the team gets a spark and goes on to do something. Blue Jays have the best record in baseball I believe since Cito Gaston took over 74 games into the season last year.
You know, some guy in here last night said the team lacks intensity and got hell for it.
But he was right. All it takes is one or two leader types to answer to. It spreads.
We don’t need guys jumping into the stands and landing on their ass to loosen us up, not that it was done for that reason anyway. It shows immaturity, a me-first attitude.
Every team needs a Pete Rose, a Munson, an O’Neill.
Overrated. I don;t think so.
yanks0616
Mo is raw
I’ve come up with a solution for hitting with RISP…
Hold every base runner at first, and hope he can score on every subsequent hit. Can’t hit poorly with RISP if a guy is standing on first. Desperate times call for desperate measures…
billy,
i know brett has sucked lately, but with the rest of our lineup, what does it matter? at least the guy can play solid D and prevent some hits/runs that way. thats the not the first/last catchable ball we’ll see damon continue to let drop..
remember before the injury A-ROD is bad in hitting with RISP as well… you think with the hip surgery he’ll get better at that??? FIRE CASHMAN!!!
Somebody needs to break one of those pretty glass partitions between the lockers with a bat after this game and wake this team up.
“Jeter Done.
Posada well Done
Petite well Done.
Mo medium.”
Anyone else hungry for steak?
It won’t go unnoticed by the people upstairs that fans will be leaving early and many not showing up at all.
I’d keep close contact with Bobby Valentime and Leo Mazzone to fire up this lackluster group of non performers.
Not saying Girardi has been perfect, but no matter what Girardi does someone will be complaining about whatever move/non-move he makes.
Here’s hoping the offense can stop being offensive sometime soon
Ben was an undertaker and when the local rabbi had a sudden heart attack they took him to Ben’s funeral home to be embalmed. Ben couldn’t help but notice how well endowed the rabbi was, so much so that he took it home as a souvenir.
When he got home he told his wife that he had something to show her and said he couldn’t help himself because he had never seen anything quite like it. Ben’s wife took one look and screamed “Oh my G-d, the rabbi died!”
I’m all for getting rid of Girardi, guy adds nothing.. i thought he was so smart and had so many national league type moves he was going to bring? Also, his staff is terrible… we lost Torre, Bowa, Mattingly for Girardi, Rob Thompson? and nobody!
Jeter Done.
Posada well Done
Petite well Done.
Mo medium.
the yankees are old and its is time the fans open their eyes and see it. This team is going nowhere unless they start drafting players and rebuild fast or it is a train wreck.
Well said my friend….
Solution?? FIRE CASHMAN!!!!
jeff friggen niemann is shutting us down, sad.
firing cash or joe will appease the crazies around here, but will do nothing about the state of the poor, sloppy execution of this team
For LOST fans only:
http://tinyurl.com/daz7d2
stuart
May 7th, 2009 at 8:25 pm
so what is Girardi’s fault tonight?
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I’m a Girardi fan but letting matsui swing 3-0 in that situation is unacceptable. Thats a pressing move as Matsuis selectivity so far this season is weak at best and the manager should know that, I do?
I woud send GGBG down to work on his approach. He looks very lost. I would give Linden or JRod a shot. They are career minor leaguers but are hungry to get a shot in the show. Can’t be any worse.
Melky is the best player on the team atm lol
pena and molina, worthless.
Look I understand that everyone is trying but something needs to change. I mean this team can’t hit, can’t pitch, and is slow. Someone needs to light a fire somehow and I am sorry but a firing needs to happen because there aren’t any other choices except just wait it out for something to be a catalyst which like last year will likely not come. Even if its just the hitting coach or pitching coach…I mean something has to be done. Not doing something says we are ok with this.
then we agree.. get ANYONE else in there and im satisfied at this point. they have to shake up this line up and show that they arent afraid to bench some players. tex, for example, could use a day off. cano too. hell, bench all of them for a day one after the other and let a new guy from the minors get a taste.
Someone brought up Leo Mazzone. Great pitching coach yes but he could not manage his way out of paper bag. He was always a ball of stress and turned down the pitching coach job for that reason. He would stroke out day one or smoke 50 cartons whatever came first.
I wish George could walk into the clubhouse right now and RIP Girardi and some players… they make the worst pitchers looks so good its unbelievable…….
“For LOST fans only:
http://tinyurl.com/daz7d2”
Will this spoil last night’s episode? b/c I haven’t seen it yet.
Can’t wait for next week’s season finale of LOST
River Ave. Blues…this place is lame.
Like last year, the team lost it’s fire without Jorge around.
The only time this team should be smiling is a solid come from behind win.
Certain player are seen laughing win, lose, or draw. What is so funny ?
not getting to excited here..Molina most likely double play ball right here.
Paging Angel Berroa …. what a waste of a spot. There needs to be moves soon with some candidates at SWB. Miranda could spell Tex and DH.
two on and one out. take bets on what comes next?
I’m not down with the fire Girardi chants, he is just dealing with the injuries and weak team Cashman has put together. If any one is to blame its Cash.
Matsui looks like a coach he got so old… feel like im watching old timers day when he’s up.
so it’s the bottom of the order that is actually getting on base, and the top that is whiffing like little leaguers
double play is my bet.
It’s deja vu all over again, Jose Molina.
To change the future, they must erase the past!
vin-it’ll be spoilery
Pull a guy with a three hit shutout in the 4th inning after 80 pitches? What the heck is that? Why have him as a starter. Give him to us at least we’ll pull him after he gets shelled like the rest of our arms.
Attention Gloom and Doomers:
the Yanks are ONE game under .500
If they lose this game they will be 13-15. (I still think they’ll win)
they will still have a better record than the defending AL champs. Tampa Bay is 13-16.
Last year’s World Series champ started out the first 28 games of 2008 at 15-13.
Is 13-15 that much worse than 15-13?
Relax. It’s not your job in jeopardy.
Hang in thru the adversity. The wins when they come will feel sweeter.
I’m not one of those manic Fire Girardi/Cashman types, but it is interesting how seemingly every decision made out of ST has proven to be the wrong one:
Gardner over Melky
Nady over Swisher (not entirely fair to say)
Ransom over Pena
No long man
One that has worked, IMO, is batting Jeter ahead of Damon.
man, how different are we gonna look next year with matsui, damon, and nady gone? andy too perhaps?
May 7th, 2009 at 8:31 pm
“How does firing Girardi make players making 15-20 million guaranteed accountable?”
Makes them realize that people are losing their jobs because of their poor play. Players making that kind of money can become comfortable and this could be the case. How many times has a team fired their coaches and then the team gets a spark and goes on to do something. Blue Jays have the best record in baseball I believe since Cito Gaston took over 74 games into the season last year.
Yeah,let’s start firing managers like we did in the ’80′s. That worked out well.
“Pull a guy with a three hit shutout in the 4th inning after 80 pitches? What the heck is that? Why have him as a starter. Give him to us at least we’ll pull him after he gets shelled like the rest of our arms.”
Because the Rays have a pen.
No DP. But some kind of out maybe a fly out.
Why isnt Cervelli catching?
DT
No offense but the wins will come? Like last year? I mean we are not in the NL west with no competition. We are in the AL east here…you can’t spot these teams 5-7 games.
wait what?
holy crap, no way did that just happen
Al from BK,
I thought you left the game thread?
Did you come back because we didn’t have enough gloom and doom and utter nonsense coming from the quitters on this board?
Yeah, Teixeira sucks. A smart fan you are. We’ll see what his numbers look like in September.
BTW, weren’t you the guy telling everyone on this board last night that you were essentially the driving force that was out in front on the Yanks signing Manny Ramirez this offseason?
How does that genius of yours look now?
Sorry, vin, I should have mentioned that the link discusses last night’s episode.
Meanwhile, Jose Molina has embraced his destiny at last!
Nice Molina. Cervelli lol. You would be asking why Molina wasn’t catching if he was.
At least it was not a DP
rally killing at its finest..
Jeter wow.
“vin-it’ll be spoilery”
Thanks for the heads-up.
It’s MOLINA time! There’s no way Pena gets sent down to SWB.
Gotta love Molina doubles but not so fond of Jeter liners.
Ah that Jose.
But then came Jeter.
Jeter are you kidding me.. Captain of the unclutch..
“Because the Rays have a pen.”
They most certainly do not
“Ransom over Pena”
I think the guys the Yankees wanted to win the job was Kevin Russo. They have invested a lot of energy into him and he had a horrible spring. He was hot early at SWB and got hurt. He’s on fire again at SWB and everyone in the organization loves him. We will see him at some point if he keeps it. He can around the IF and the OF corners.
Johnny’s awake
Irony…same score as end of last night.
Damon is the man. Bat him lead off again please.
DT
Sounds like last year’s refrain. We gotta fix something.
jose looked like a freight train lumbering towards home.. reminded me of jorgie for a second there
Did I accidentally change the channel?
Damon is so clutch.
Jeter is pretty unclutch.
runs
Ray’s pen is not great…Their starters carry them. Their pen is relatively lightly used so they are not overexposed but they are not a great pen.
Damon has been the most clutch over the last week.. I know it doesn’t say much, but he has brought the Yanks back from the dead.. The rest of the team failed after trailing 4-3 with Boston the other day.
Tex…not so much.
1-27? but no matter, he still had that 3 run double.
Teixiera continues to get a steady diet of breaking pitches.
Right now any pen looks like a bunch of world beaters compared to us.
did cash know that tex has trouble with breaking balls when they signed him?
“Teixeira way out in front. So are the Rays, but by one run.”
That didn’t even make sense, Michael Kay.
lol WOW tex WOW
Tex is killing us. Geesh.
Tex should wear a mask next time he comes up.
Yup, Jeter is the most unclutch, overrated player in the history of the game /sarcasm
i love how the guy making 180 mil is depending on the guy making 300 mill to be there to cover his as$
Tex is absolutely painful right now.. Sometimes I wonder if he really wants to be here? Since he did love being an Angel.
Trisha
How you liking Molina these days? Still think you’d rather have him over Jorge?
Anyone feel better now that it’s 4-3.
I don’t.
Arod comes back tex should see more fastballs, hopefully that gets him going
Why don’t they give Tex a day or two off?
Yanks Miss Gil Patterson May 7th, 2009 at 8:50 pm
Anyone feel better now that it’s 4-3.
Nope, game will probably end 4-3 with ways been going lately.
No 4-3 is a tease.. It will be 6-3 soon.. That is the pattern once Andy’s pitch count gets him out of the game and the dreaded pen steps in.
When are these people going to realize that Tex is pressing because people are booing him? If they’d stop booing, he’d relax and get in a groove and start producing. Continuing to boo is only prolonging his slump. It’s just stupid.
Kay is indicative of the way things are going here. 25 players, 25 cabs.
DT
Sounds like last year’s refrain. We gotta fix something.
Well – if you really think “we” should be fixing something – I’ll loan you my broken toaster and a screwdriver.
In Search of O’Neil -
I’ll be honest with you. The jury is out.
Niemann’s days in the rotation would be over if David Price was not struggling as much as he is in AAA, tonight’s bad outing for Durham included.
trisha, gimme some more updates on the sux!
Carl Crawford a Yankee next year?
Who has the FA names for the offseason?
Problem with Tex is that it’s all in his head right now and he is pressing and guessing. That at bat he had 2 hittable breaking pitches that he took for striles and then swings at a breaking pitch out of the strike zone.
Watch as the rest of the league follows that pattern until he hits the first pitch breaking ball and then they will have to adjust.
He has to adjust right now and not try and do too much.
Last night he flied out on the 2-0 pitch that was tailing away and he tried to pull it and popped out. He should have just tried to go with it and get a single instead of trying to go yard to right.
To the guy who posted the putrid Redsocks lineup and sarcastically asked how they manage to get things done: your point is now much more valid.
To the shmoe who liked the Redsocks over but didn’t pull the trigger:
Maybe a Valentine with a funny mustache would help!
They need Miranda on the bench to spell Tex and gets some spot starts at DH.
You want a Sox update.. 8-2 Sox.. See at least they came back.
its 8-2 red sox
He’s stealing bags like this is a walk year.
I’ll put him in LF in 2010.
Red sox up 8-2, have scored 7 in the 6th inning, 2 on, and still nobody out!
Donnie,
Not for anything but he hit under 200 in april before they started booing him. I mean 2 freakin hundred for crying out loud. He signed a big deal he needs to understand the responsibility and expectations that come with such a deal and work it out.
1-2-3? wow, lets see if offense can get going, maybe?
Tex is surely shell-shocked. Needs an Arod behind him. LOL.
big joe, couldnt agree more.
i hate when people tell the fans who they can/cant boo.. as a fan, thats the only expression you have so if a guy sucks, let him know!
Tampa has an option on Crawford, he is not hitting the FA market for another year.
Whats a good site for seeing splits on how a player hits against specific pitches not just pitchers?
Please, no more Sox updates unless they are losing my heart can’t take much more.
10-2 red sox, still batting in the 6th, nobody out, 9 runs in. I remember when the Yanks used to do that, but that was a while ago.
This place is so lame you don’t even know it. The future of Yankee fans looks dim.
Why do people ask for updates from other games on here? Don’t you have the internet?
Aren’t you tracking the Yankees game and therefore able to see scoreboards for other games?
Yanks Miss Gil Patterson
May 7th, 2009 at 8:53 pm
Carl Crawford a Yankee next year?
Who has the FA names for the offseason?
I dont want crawford bc he will come here and have cement feet…lol
“When are these people going to realize that Tex is pressing because people are booing him? If they’d stop booing, he’d relax and get in a groove and start producing. Continuing to boo is only prolonging his slump. It’s just stupid.”
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Yankee fans are not supposed to be a support group for fragile players. He’s getting paid to produce. He knew coming in that he’d get booed if he went into a slump. It’s tough to play in the Bronx – this is not some kind of breaking news. But it’s certainly no excuse to not be living up to even the minimum of what’s expected. The only person Tex has to blame for this slump is himself. If the boos are bugging him so much, let him go out and get some earplugs. He certainly wouldn’t be the first player to use them…
When are these people going to realize that Tex is pressing because people are booing him? If they’d stop booing, he’d relax and get in a groove and start producing. Continuing to boo is only prolonging his slump. It’s just stupid.
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Agreed, 100%.
I’ve never booed a player in my life. I don’t see the point in it and it’s sure as hell not going to help the player perform.
I always chuckle when I hear someone say that Yankee fans are the best in the world.
Obviously, they’ve never read the nonsense on these boards when the Yanks are losing or pay attention to the booing.
Yankee fans are often a joke, especially those who never followed the team before 1996.
Sweet_Lou_in_Vermont
May 7th, 2009 at 8:55 pm
Red sox up 8-2, have scored 7 in the 6th inning, 2 on, and still nobody out!
And this means what ?
time to get some more runs
(fingers crossed)
Booing was part of the deal when he signed the contract. I think he will bounce back. But honestly Donnie you are a clown for even bringing that up. If it upsets him, he needs to grow a pair.
Shame
I do think he could benefit from a night off though…just some time to think and reset. he’s pressing but these fans are paying his salary and can boo if they want…
Soon they won’t boo Tex so loud because their favorite target is coming back tomorrow.
Kristen – you so don’t want to know…
This is ugly beyond belief. Trust me.
LETS GO YANKEES!
Living in NH and seeing how the Sox maintain composure and the Yanks imploding makes me sick.. The Sox didn’t spend alot in the offseason and they still do all the little things.. DiceK has been out. Ortiz stinks. But they still get it done.. Why is it that the Yanks do the same thing year after year.. Underachieve and no heart? They start out like this and play catch up and always fall short..
WOOOOO!
+1 to NYPD!
That looked like Matsui barely flicked at that.
Hideki
LOL AT THE COP!!!
Why is Kay always looking to make conversation?
we are tied?
let’s all just be thankful that Cash didn’t sign Manny! what a great day to be a Yankee fan! lol
Cano is down on his luck.
did Giambi take the thong with him?
The cop is the man.
i think all our starters need a day off.
anyone that ‘doesnt understand booing’ confuses me. what part dont you understand? if a player is constantly playing poorly he needs to be made aware of it in an extremely obnoxious manner. why? because when that same player does something worth cheering for, the fans will let him feel the love.
“A smooth cop,” isn’t that a racist remark?
Baseball is a funny game as Matsui takes 2 good strikes and then hits a breaking ball out of the strike zone for a home run
Dude sign the cop up! He looks like he can play a mean defensive outfield
ahha
Matsui 3 weeks ago could not walk to 1st base now he is hitting like Godzilla again….I wonder if he started going to Manny’s doc in Florida? Just kidding…mostly. But really its just amazing the turnaround.
In Search of -
I’ll tell you what is going to help me, in terms of tonight’s game anyway. Andy usually implodes in the later innings, so I want to see what he and Molina do in the 6th, especially since we got that run back. And if he holds on and is out for the 7th, then that too. His bugaboo innings aren’t usually the early ones.
Hey, I hate the Red Sox too but 12 runs in an inning, still nobody out. That’s pretty cool.
Booing your own players is stupid, plain and simple.
that cop > abreu
melky on fia
C’mon Pena
Cervelli? uh ohh
Trisha-
Here comes Cervelli.
oh no Cervelli on deck
Great Molina may be hurt…
Molina’s hurt. We need to pray for Jesus, Montero that is.
Jeter’s Future Wife
May 7th, 2009 at 9:00 pm
let’s all just be thankful that Cash didn’t sign Manny!
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Next year
Melky is on fire
Jeter’s Future Wife
May 7th, 2009 at 9:00 pm
let’s all just be thankful that Cash didn’t sign Manny!
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Next year
Melky is on fire
Molina?
Introducing – DA MELK!!!!
I can’t tell you the joy I feel watching Melky perform well again. He’s had my heart from day one.
Wow no Molina could be hurt? Might just be one of those years…
Another catcher hurt?
Yankee fans are not supposed to be a support group for fragile players. He’s getting paid to produce. He knew coming in that he’d get booed if he went into a slump. It’s tough to play in the Bronx – this is not some kind of breaking news. But it’s certainly no excuse to not be living up to even the minimum of what’s expected. The only person Tex has to blame for this slump is himself. If the boos are bugging him so much, let him go out and get some earplugs. He certainly wouldn’t be the first player to use them…
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And Yankee fans knew back in November and December that Teixeira was a slow starter.
That’s what he’s always been and giving him more money isn’t going to change that.
Earning more money doesn’t increase a player’s strengths and eliminate all of his weaknesses.
When you commit to any free agent – no matter the cost – you have decided to buy the entire package – strengths, weaknesses, character, etc, etc.
Melky 10 walks so far
last year 29
Coach6423 May 7th, 2009 at 9:03 pm
Booing your own players is stupid, plain and simple.
Coach your seats are waiting for you at the Nationals game…..please!
Molina
Nice pick, Officer
Nice play by the cop. Maybe Bobby Abreu has a lot of unpained parking tickets and that’s why he stayed away from the wall.
“Molina’s hurt. We need to pray for Jesus, Montero that is.”
Not happening. Cash will be brought up even if it means a 40-man move.
In search of O’Neil -
oh my aching back. Keeping my fingers crossed but obviously forget what I said about watching Andy work with Molina…
Pete, enough the updates every two minutes, let us watch the game…
What does booing your own players accomplish, for real, other than looking like morons to the rest of MLB?
what should we do when they F*** up then?? CHEER FOR THEM? give them some milk and cookies and a pat on the head?! are these men or what?? you guys are insane.. if im paying to get into that stadium ill boo and cheer for whoever i want.. and whenever (and i mean WHENEVER) a player does something that i see and like i will cheer my butt off for that person. i will chant his name so it reins down from the upper tiers and showers him with affection.. but ill boo his sorry a** the minute he messes up.
I hope Teixeira has contacted his HGH supplier.
Is there any reason for a player not to be using HGH under the current system?
Ken Singleton uses it to stay handsome. It’s in vogue right now. Let’s use it, Mark.
FML MOLINA
maybe the yankees should get really bad players so that when they get hurt there’s not so much of a drop off.
Molina out?
molina hurt?
Cash is hurt…Pellitere is next in line.
Yuck. Now the Rays are really going to run wild with Cervelli.
Hopefully its a cramp. This sucks.
Jeff in NJ
Pete “took the night off”
nice job by Cashman in hiring trainers and fitness guys….. every year we are the model for the walking wounded……. FIRE CASHMAN!!!!!
Wow, Molina looked to be in a lot of pain.
Cash is active.
I think the backup catcher is Joe G now. Maybe Tony Pena?
Last I checked, Cash is injured and won’t be brought up.
Might have to say so long to Ian Kennedy, because we need an ML-ready catcher, and it’s going to take Kennedy and then some. Potentially Gardner or Melky. Even with that, what we get will be barely an ML catcher. This is probably one of the worst things that could have happened to us.
Jeff NJ May 7th, 2009 at 9:06 pm
Pete, enough the updates every two minutes, let us watch the game…
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“Notes: I’m off today in advance of the road trip.”
so what happened to molina? appreciate the recap thanks
so far so good with young PJ…
Bring up Kevin Cash
frankie will always run it out down behind first base. watching him since last year, that is always nice to see. some hustle.
As Molina crossed home plate, he came up lame.
enough with the Kevin Cash – he is on the freaking DL
“Last I checked, Cash is injured and won’t be brought up.”
No he’s not. In fact he just came off the DL. They should activate him.
Yankee Ray,
too funny! but I don’t think even Cash would be that dumb. We already have one cancer in the clubhouse, no room for anymore!
Taking a play out of the Roger Dorn playbook, Joe Girardi will activate himself tommorow, and be the player/manager.
Hang ‘em and bang ‘em
oh my lord
Hanging breaking ball.
People are just teeing off us.
Coach6423 May 7th, 2009 at 9:07 pm
What does booing your own players accomplish, for real, other than looking like morons to the rest of MLB?
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Exactly.
It only puts more pressure on the player and makes the culprits doing the booing look like idiots.
Sometimes a player needs to clear his mind completely when he goes up to the plate. Too much thinking can really screw a guy up.
Who didn’t think that was coming?
Jonesy is right Cash is now activated look:
http://community.thetimes-trib.....ble-a.aspx
ugh
Rishi open your eyes Cash has been active for two days. It’s going to be him. PJ is at Trenton now.
“I think the backup catcher is Joe G now. Maybe Tony Pena?”
activate the bullpen catcher.
one day in the majors and he had insurance for life.
Susan, Nick Swisher is left handed…he surely is not the 3rd string catcher…wow..
“Sometimes a player needs to clear his mind completely when he goes up to the plate. ”
then they should meditate before the game.. learn some breathing exercises.. maybe practice voodoo. i really dont care. the only people that look stupid when the boo birds come out are the fools on the field that leave a million men on base and cant get out of an inning without giving up a homerun.
I’m just glad NHL playoffs are so fun to watch now, that I’m not noticing every little thing wrong with the Yanks….thanks god it’s early May!
What up with our pitchers?
I know we’re having trouble hitting but we made a four run comeback today and got three in the eighth yesterday. What do we need to do?
Michael Kay just sounds so depressed.
I missed it. What up with Molina?
Why isnt he live bloggin this game???
No the only people that look dumb when the boo birds come out are in fact the boo birds….
if im paying to get into that stadium ill boo and cheer for whoever i want..
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Nobody has said you’re not allowed to boo.
But we have the same rights to criticize anyone who acts like an idiot.
Voodoo Shame? We can’t be killing chickens! It is very bad to steal Joboo’s rum…is very bad!
Jesus Montero?
I kid.
Pulled something crossing home.
come on
Pete isn’t at the game.
And so the trend of everything that could possibly going wrong going wrong continues.
Game about to get away here.
the fact is two groups of people are there, ones that pay to be there and ones that get paid to be there. what is more foolish than booing is paying to be at the stadium at all.
Billy-You’re kidding?
Pettitte a true gamer..Lmao.. Team comes back and he collapses.. like I said this team teases you!.. 112 pitches and not even through 6 innings..
Guiseppe…and calling others an idiot is ok? Please…practice what you preach. At least the people here are not stealing $20mil a year.
Jeter’s Future Wife
May 7th, 2009 at 9:11 pm
Yankee Ray,
too funny! but I don’t think even Cash would be that dumb. We already have one cancer in the clubhouse, no room for anymore!
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I wasn’t joking as we need the bat and there is plenty of room in that great big new clubhouse
i really dont care. the only people that look stupid when the boo birds come out are the fools on the field that leave a million men on base and cant get out of an inning without giving up a homerun.
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Thanks for making my point.
Boo all you want. But we have the same rights as you do to call you and others morons for doing so.
If you’re going to a game only to see a win you’re missing the point of baseball.
big joe.. if scott proctor cared enough to burn his uniform i would like to see tex with some dead chickens in his locker, yes. if thats what it takes, thats what it takes.
This two-out rally killed his pitch count.
Oh did I mention 4 HR’s in 5 plus innings.. I may never walk outdoors again with my head held high
“Rishi open your eyes Cash has been active for two days. It’s going to be him. PJ is at Trenton now.”
Either Cash or that chris stewart
Another bucket of KFC then please.
get some runs
http://img200.exs.cx/img200/7527/joboo5cu.jpg
franco, come off it. im not coming to your job every day and booing you for no reason. its a sport. fans are fans. im not saying be like philly and boo santa but damn, how does that make you look like an idiot?
the fact is two groups of people are there, ones that pay to be there and ones that get paid to be there. what is more foolish than booing is paying to be at the stadium at all.
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Then stop going to games. Problem solved.
so now Molina is hurt? man…this team is running out of bodies, that injury will hurt big time
the incredible shrinking kapler. funny how that happened as testing increased.
“Billy-You’re kidding?”
They showed the replay and you could see it. The look on his face showed it too. Eveb though most people here don’t realize Kevin Cash is active, he is. He will be up tomorrow with some move to the 40-man roster.
Never again will the 40-man not have three catchers.
Andy gritted it out. Now let’s get him some runs!
The answer to “what was Girardi saving Mo for?” is coming.
Franco- Seriously this has to be a put-on. You cannot be so blindfully devoted to players that make more in a week than most of us make all year. They are professional athletes, grown men they don’t need you as an excuse machine.
I have no problem with booing. If a team is playing bad, why not let them know? Like protesting against politicians you disagree with.
if Phili fans are worse why is called “the Bronx cheer”…we are the originators and have to earn our heritage by keeping a tradition alive.
Nick in SF-He didn’t grit it out. He gave up 4 runs, we tied it, and then he blew the lead. Bad job Andy.
“Earning more money doesn’t increase a player’s strengths and eliminate all of his weaknesses.”
Yeah, but it sure enough places a freightrain load of pressure on his shoulders. Everyone in baseballdom knows the money these guys make, and you don’t think they’re aware of that? You don’t think that effects them? You don’t think they hear the boos? You don’t think they are aware of what is being said in the media?
Big contracts are nice when you first get them, but when you see the pressure put on you to perform because “we are paying you a lot of money” it does get to you. Unless, you are a Reggie Jackson who thrived on pressure.
Are our announcers on drugs?
Kay does sound like he’s stoned, jennifer.
Kay is wrong. A-Rod > Posada. A-Rod back is still a more potent offense than if ARod were here and Posada was out.
Tex needs to hit those freaking breaking balls.
franco, come off it. im not coming to your job every day and booing you for no reason. its a sport. fans are fans. im not saying be like philly and boo santa but damn, how does that make you look like an idiot?
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Because it reflects bad on the entire Yankee fan base.
Do you really think ballplayers think that Yankee fans are the best on the world?
No, they see people booing Teixeira now and A-Rod mercilessly the year after he won the MVP (in 2006) and they probably think Yankee fans are a bunch of retarded knuckle draggers.
I’d rather not be associated with fans who act like fools in public simply because they paid money to watch a game.
They have every right to do it but it reflects a lot more negatively on those doing the booing rather than the intended targets.
Cervelli should have steamrolled Pena at first on that play and then told Maddon that he was just playing hard.
Howell is overrated. time to get some hits.
I give credit to Kay. He’s clearly affected by the bad play and tough losses.
Texmvp: sorry he didn’t live up to your standards. I like how he got that last out.
Tom- Kenny too. Said they’ll have to make a move if Jose is injured to get Cash up here. Um yeah, Jose to the dl. DUH.
jennifer -
They’re as depressed as we are, I think.
Michael Kay, anyway.
“PJ is at Trenton now.”
at least on paper…
http://thunderbaseball.wordpre.....yes-and-no
Who cares what other people think?
If our players are not performing, we’ll boo them. And nobody cares what the rest of the league thinks. They want it to stop, perform.
Please…practice what you preach. At least the people here are not stealing $20mil a year.
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Stealing $20M a year? Is it your money?
He’s played 27 games in Yankee pinstripes. Carl Pavano stole $40M. Teixeira hasn’t even put a dent into his Yankee career yet and people are booing him off the field.
It’s moronic and embarrassing.
Most games played by Cash in a season is 60. He also is the proud owner of a career .185 BA.
This team is a complete mess. The hope of making the playoffs this year is dwindling by the day.
Damon is teeing up opportunities constantly for Tex.
When is he going to capitalize?
Cue Tex pop out.
Nick in SF-My standards are 3 runs in 6 innings, so you’re right, I expect decent performances from my pitchers.
Don’t mean to snap at you, but it’s amazing how nobody on our rotation is doing good. And yes, Burnett fulfilled my expectations yesterday. Finally.
Injuries have completely derailed our season
Don’t think we have enough left to make a run in this division. Not with Tampa heating up, Boston on a roll, and Toronto already 20-10.
Our season might end early
Damon is raking. The Yankees should find a way to bring him back. Pressure does not seem to bother him.
Tex needs to come through.
BOOOOOOOOOO…
the BEST they can hope for from CHOKE-SHERA is a walk
It’s gonna be worse in Baltimore Kay!
omg.. did we invent booing or something? i thought this was practiced in almost every other ballpark in america but i guess im naive. i didnt realize fans of sports we supposed to be polite. maybe they should give etiquette classes at the new ball park starting in the bleachers. im sure bald vinny will respond well.
Giuseppe Franco
I agree. I hate it. I am not happy with how Tex is playing right now (hitting I should say). But does anyone think this is how he wants to start his Yankee career. The more people boo the more pressure they feel.
And if this Fire Joe garbage I am hearing is true, it makes me sicker.
This team is decimated by injuries. Show me another team with as many injuries as we have.
Andy showing us that he is done
He is a Livan Hernandez-innings eater at this point. He’ll give you innings, but plenty of runs too. He is batting practice out there.
dude REALLY sücks !
Will get Teix get cheered in Baltimore the way he is hitting? Sure they are happy he’s not there right about now.
Seasons never end early.
Sometimes I wonder what this blog would have been like back in the 70′s when the Yanks came back from 14 games down.
By the way, the game is not over.
what a surprise
Franco…I’ve been a season ticket holder all my life so some of it is my money yes. I understand what he’s going through…I know what its like to press but right now he is not earning that type of salary. Not saying he won’t just saying right now he isn’t. I say sit him and let him try to slow it all down.
Tex is hitting A-Rod type of balls to first base.
Bruce
Jays have yet to face the Yankees or Sox. They will come back to earth.
Yankees have had a lot of bad luck.
CC will improve as the season progresses.
Unless, you are a Reggie Jackson who thrived on pressure.
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Sure about that?
Do some research and check out Reggie Jackson’s numbers during his first two months as a Yankee in 1977.
They were horrific. Same thing with Sparky Lyle. He was awful – couldn’t get anyone out to save his life.
But they both turned it around. Teixeira will turn it around too.
But people who feel the need to boo any player who is slumping doesn’t have all that much insight on this game anyways.
This team is a complete mess. *The hope of making the playoffs this year is dwindling by the day.*
Exactly. If they don’t win soon – they are out of the playoffs.
Maybe some gloom and doomer can post the Magic Number for the Yankees missing the playoffs.
Anybody have the magic number handy?
It’s embarassing to hear that. People wonder why we have to over pay for players….thats why. Who wants to take a discount when you are going to get booed, no matter how good you do…see Arod.
Sean Serritella-No, ARod type of balls would be out of the ballpark.
The season is over. Win or lose we are not gonna be able to compete with a journey-man catching everyday. Some times a good team can just not succeed and that is us this year. 2 straight years with no playoffs is not the end of the World e just need to get younger and get healthy.
Why is Upton out?
I know this isin’t exactly the best timing… but how did Cashman choose Teixeria over Manny?
Manny is a clutch hitting machine, he isin’t affected by pressure like Teixeria is. He makes everyone around him better
I walked away for the last couple of mins.. what did Tex do?? Pop out or strike out?
what is the reasoning behind not pitching robertson or melancon in forever..but using veras and ramirez almost every day?
fasten your seat belts people
Strained left quad.
Strained quad. Oh great, doesn’t sound good.
Of course you boo slumping players. If they can’t deal with the heat, get out of the fire. Translation-Maybe you shouldn’t have come if you expected the fans to be nice to you when you’re struggling. If you don’t want to be booed, perform.
Upton has the flu
Veras K!
Franco…I guarantee I have more insight on this game than you. I was drafted in the 53rd round by the astros in 1990.
For Molina.
Will have an MRI tonight to see how serious it is.
This team is royally screwed.
Suit up Girardi.
Al from BK – Time to focus on the Jets man.
Baseball season for Yankee fans is over. Team has too many injuries, not enough pitching, and not enough guts to make a serious run. They’ll tease us a couple of times but BOS/TOR/TB will just be cruising in the summer while we’re trying to unsuccessfully catch up.
Season is over. Maybe next year, we;ll be luckier with injuries.
He’s likely gonna be on the DL.
DC 212-Tex is generally not affected by the pressure.
Besides, Manny is a clubhouse cancer and wold have given us another terrible outfielder/DH.
The season is over. Win or lose we are not gonna be able to compete with a journey-man catching everyday. Some times a good team can just not succeed and that is us this year. 2 straight years with no playoffs is not the end of the World e just need to get younger and get healthy.
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May 7th and the season is already over?
This team sure does have some “wonderful fans”
“It’s embarassing to hear that. People wonder why we have to over pay for players….thats why. Who wants to take a discount when you are going to get booed, no matter how good you do…see Arod.”
We do not overpay because of the booing. It’s the entire microscope of media, fans. Etc. Booing happens everywhere. I may not agree with it but these are pros and need to grow a pair. Go to any stadium and see a star struggle. They will be booed.
so now im an idiot and have no insight to the game.. maybe im just passionate. if our manager ripped a slumping player a new one on the bench would we say he was an idiot for trying to fire the guy up? i want a player that turns a negative into a positive, a motivator.. which i think tex will do, btw.
“People wonder why we have to over pay for players….thats why. Who wants to take a discount when you are going to get booed, no matter how good you do…see Arod.”
give me a break. we’re the NEW YORK FRIGGIN YANKEES!! we overpay to out price other clubs not because of our fan base. and let me tell you something, for every player that wouldnt want to play on our team there are probably 20 that would die for the shot to don the pinstripes.
Poor Molina was probably running twice as fast as he’s used to to try to get a run in.
Poor Yankees.
Poor us.
I am not sure that I can sit through another Veras appearance. I hope that they DFA him to make a spot for A-Rod.
What about David Robertson?
Nice K there for Veras.
Strained quad for Molina according to Kay. Molina to have MRI tonight..WOW
Veras with a good outing/ Trade him for a catcher.
If you think the season is over then leave the blog.
It’s a blog about the Yankees season. Why are you here if it’s over?
Now Molina is out with a strained quad. The news just doesn’t get any better
“Of course you boo slumping players. ”
there is no “of course” about it
Maybe You do but many DON”T
man, this team is godawful right now.
at this point, as many have said, the injuries are no longer a coincidence. too many players going down. this organization needs to seriously re-evaluate, top to bottom.
if they miss the playoffs again, it’s time to blow it up as much as possible and really start over. i would not mind seeing cashman and girardi gone, myself. cashman because it’s just his time. he stayed in one place too long, this organization needs new blood. girardi because i’ve never been a fan.
I wish I got paid to fail miserably!
Shows every team in baseball dropped the ball when Brayan Pena cleared waivers. He would be started tomorrow night if not for us behind the dish.
trisha-What was up with that DP?
I could have set a snail there and he’d have beat the ball to the bag.
Nice to meet you Brian McGlone
Big Joe
May 7th, 2009 at 9:33 pm
Franco…I guarantee I have more insight on this game than you. I was drafted in the 53rd round by the astros in 1990.
Then your name isn’t Joe. And you aren’t big.
http://www.thebaseballcube.com/draft/1990/13.shtml
Uncle Ellsworth-Listen to Yankee Stadium.
People who trash Veras should feel at least a little sheepish.
I agree. I hate it. I am not happy with how Tex is playing right now (hitting I should say). But does anyone think this is how he wants to start his Yankee career. The more people boo the more pressure they feel.
And if this Fire Joe garbage I am hearing is true, it makes me sicker.
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I don’t think Girardi is going anywhere anytime soon.
He has the full season to whatever he’s going to do – sink or swim.
I don’t recall any championships in recent years by any team in any sport to fire their manager and the team come back and win it all.
Stability in the dugout is as important to winning ball clubs as anything else.
The Yanks didn’t win many rings when George was firing managers almost every year.
You want to trade for a catcher?
Goodbye Hughes, goodbye Jackson.
Tough to be a GM, knowing that the best interest of the team is to wait it out and play with below-replacement level in the meantime.
Quad injuries are harder to come back than hamstrings.
1 more Veras. Please
These guys are killing us with 2 strikes and 2 outs…our pitchers need to slam the door. Eiland needs to get this across pronto because its become an epidemic.
Longoria is just a good ballplayer who will become a superstar player in a few more years….A-Rod talent
veras with a good outing? inning’s not over yet…
I can’t watch this at bat against Pena.
I don’t feel good about this
when it rains, it sure does pour. Who are they going to bring up to catch tomorrow if Molina has a serious injury?
cue the firestarting bullpen.
Tex, which DP?
If I want to boo a slumping player I think I’m allowed w/o being insulted by other people.
In sports, if you do bad, your coach chews you out. So why not fans? Their job is to produce. And if Reggie started slow, he deserved to be booed. And Sparky.
When was the last time a Yankee reliever had a 1 2 3.
“But they both turned it around. Teixeira will turn it around too.”
You don’t know that, and neither does anyone else.
No, I didn’t look at their numbers from 1977. So what, hindsight is 20/20. We are talking about Texieria. He is not Reggie Jackson. Reggie Jackson won 5 world’s championships – 3 with Oakland, and 2 with the Yanks, when he got to New York, he had already established himself as “Mr. October.”
3-1 to Pena. Walk him.
DT
My middle name is Joseph. Which is what I went by all my life…My father’s name is Anthony and my mom’s is Kathy. My name is Brian Mcglone and I played at Hillsborough CC before being picked. Dude you have no idea just shut it.
And Veras collapses.
Lovely.
The season is over? You people are ridiculous. Cashman will have to trade for a catcher…
Veras got jobbed on that last pitch.
Why is it never easy with you Veras
Has Veras ever had a 1 2 3?
This is gonna be bad I feel it I feel it.
I think Longoria is already a superstar without the juice. Just watch him bat. He already on pace to drive in well over 100 runs.
I told you.
lets all listen to the totally undeserved booing of jose veras
Verus is gasoline
This bullpen is laughable.
Maybe Girardi should dust off his catching gear and start tomorrow in Baltimore
Franco…I guarantee I have more insight on this game than you. I was drafted in the 53rd round by the astros in 1990.
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So did I.
I played college ball back in the mid-90s and a knee injury really put a kink in my baseball career. It never responded the same way again.
I’m pretty disappointed that you would think that booing these guys is logical and acceptable behavior.
I don’t like the way Cervelli calls the game or frames the pitches. He isn’t getting the most out of Veras.
I think Tex’ll turn it around.
Still, I love how the announcers get slowly less and less optimistic. First he’s starting slow. Then he’ll come out of it. Now he SHOULD come out of it.
Game over. The bullpen comes through again.
I really hope that I never have to see Veras pitch in pinstripes again. Ever.
Get him out of there.
i hate veras
They are killing us…
McGlone what are your feelings of James Warrick?
Brayan Pena.
Too late.
another brilliant move by Girardi bringing in the reliable Veras.. I told you earlier in this post that it’s just a tease.. Pettitte will falter and the pen will blow it right out of the water!!
How dare they boo Veras! How unsportsmanlike!
Trisha, should we still feel sheepish for doubting Veras? He should only pitch in blowouts.
Hey Joe, can we get a look at Robertson, Melancon or even Aceves? I’ve seen enough of Veras.
“I think Longoria is already a superstar without the juice. Just watch him bat. He already on pace to drive in well over 100 runs.”
you have no idea if he is on the juice or not. sorry. but that’s just the way it is.
can we please get rid of veras
Michael Kay I think is just as frustrated as us. I get the impression he is beating his head against the wall between innings.
DT
My middle name is Joseph. Which is what I went by all my life…My father’s name is Anthony and my mom’s is Kathy. My name is Brian Mcglone and I played at Hillsborough CC before being picked. Dude you have no idea just shut it.
Sorry Big Joe.
It says here your middle name is Anthony. You might want to have them correct that.
http://www.thebaseballcube.com.....lone.shtml
That fake to 3rd fake to 1st was the best thing Veras has done this inning
sigh
I like Veras, but he’s having an awful season so far. He did good last year, I just wish he would pick it up.
this team is headed for a disaster of a season, no getting around it..they will be lucky to win 85 games this year
Franco – I did not say I do it…because I don’t but i understand it and am ok with it especially when it seems the organization is allowing mediocrity across the board. I would not be ok with it in the first game or anything but after a month of leaving RISP when we needed him to pick up slack I am ok with it.
I don’t believe in booing either. But what can you do?
Well let me change that. I don’t believe in booing my team’s players. I don’t mind fans booing the opposition.
“It’s a blog about the Yankees season. Why are you here if it’s over?”
Because unfortunately I’m a fan of this team and its almost like a sad dependence where I keep coming back for more. The Molina injury just seems borderline cruel. This season was screwed when Wang started 4 games with a 35 ERA and A-Rod following the most embarrassing roids scandal in history had to get hip surgery. Hes back now but its too late sadly he can’t catch or pitch out of the bullpen.
We must have made a deal with Satan for all those world series in the 1990s. What else could it be? Terrible injuries, free agent flops, lifeless stadium.
“you have no idea if he is on the juice or not. sorry. but that’s just the way it is.”
Well played. Nothing would shock me but as far as a player he has arrived and he is a star.
Stick Melancon out there and see how he responds to his last outing.
They are down by two runs. There’s no reason to let him rot in the pen and continue to think about Tuesday.
Get him out there and see how he responds.
DFA VERAS RIGHT NOW!!!!!! Clean out his locker before the game ends…
It is astounding the ways they find to lose.
This team has a lot of grit. If only we had pitching to go with it.
“Pettitte will falter and the pen will blow it right out of the water!!”
Way to stay positive
Can we go back to talking about Manny using female hormones? That conversation was a lot more pleasant.
I made a co-workers day, he started to ask if I was upset. I said why would I be? Did you hear? Manny 50 game suspension. He couldn’t believe it. He’s a Giant fan. Was happier than a pig in ‘it.
so i get how you all feel about booing.. what are your opinions on vulgar chants? lol. seriously, im just curious..
YAY good job Veras
another great outing from the Yankees bullpen. 2nd worst in baseball!!
DT
I really don’t care…Like I said that’s my dad’s name and my nephew’s name and actually is my confirmation name so I really don’t care what it says…but I know a fair bit about this game from a players standpoint.
Veras was good last year in a small sample size.. Now the league knows who he is and now we see the real Veras.. He just isn’t that good PERIOD! I’d rather see Pat Venditte up here than these chumps.
Joe Girardi is bad luck
Arod up tomorrow.
They will DFA Berroa and add Cash to 40 man roster. Molina will be on DL.
Not the end of the world.
Al from BK-Go blog about the Jets then.
After all, every season ends in May.
They’ve never come back before. It’s not like they had injuries last year and still won 89 games.
Well it’s about time the Rays got some good players, picking first for ten years you are bound to collect some decent players
We are jinxed with that 27 jersey
if anything is going to get Girardi fired, it’s running Veras out there as much as he does.
McGlone, what did you think of Central New York?
Where’s Krazy Kyle when you need him?
I would not be ok with it in the first game or anything but after a month of leaving RISP when we needed him to pick up slack I am ok with it.
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I don’t recall any situation where booing made the intended target play better.
I’m sure he doesn’t need the fans to keep reminding him that he wasn’t played well.
So, how do people propose we fix the pen?
Just send Veras, Robertson, Albaladejo, Edwar etc. out there and hope they turn it around? Force Melancon into big spots even if he doesn’t respond?
Cleveland’s season was over early because of their pen last year, and we may be on our way to suffering the same fate. We need a solution now.
do we have any info on Molina?
Terry from NH-I remember him being there all year.
Let’s hope that A-Rod can give this team a lift. They are really down right now.
THE GAME IS NOT OVER.
I don’t like any vulgarity in the stands at all…Kids are there and their parents should not have to feel uncomfortable about taking kids to the ball game its a kids game after all.
Now we’re gonna second guess Girardi on leaving in Veras? He just took down Longoria and Pena. We can’t just keep pulling these guys in May every time they struggle. Who the F are we gonna be able to use in critical September games????
Do you want your 6,7, or 8 yr old to hear or be apart of vulgar chants?
“Where’s Krazy Kyle when you need him?”
He’s blowing games with the Royals
Jay-Force Melancon. This is the big leagues kid, and we need wins. Be a hero.
Ab.. it doesn’t take a CSI to see that the facts are the facts right now.. Deal with it and stop making excuses.. Teams with lesser payrolls are better than us right now! Injuries or no injuries players pick up the slack when others are out.. The roster is set up to fail right now. It is a bad job by Cashman.. I’ve accepted this!
Molina out with a strained Quad MRI later tonight
Daver. Strained quad and he’ll be going for an MRI tonight.
teixmvp – not yet, but it sure feels like it is. i, obviously, want them to pull out a victory but this team is just so unproductive its hard to get your hopes up…
Why is it everytime someone screams, “seasons over” everybody has a conniption.
They know the seasons not over, they’re just venting. So what, let em vent, it doesn’t hurt you, me, or the Yankees. It’s just anger and frustration talking that’s all. Ignore it!
The season is not over, but the Yankee play of late is seriously deficient. If I’m Cashman, I let things stand as they are, then see where they are in the middle of June. I don’t make any rash changes just because of a slump in May. Gotta give the players time to work things out. Patience in baseball is a virtue.
two catchers
two third basemen
a right fielder
a starter
an 8th innings guy
ifthe yankees’ payroll is two to three times other teams, shouldn’t they spend two to three times as much on their conditioning and injury prevention because it costs them more when their players are hurt.
if they are not going to give special care to the high price players shouldn’t they stop going after expensive players and go after nady/ swisher type players so when one’s hurt you have another.
because they have already maxed out on payroll, how can they even go out and buy replacement players ?
this injury thing has to be addressed because it has become part of the teams normal operation. at any given time they have more dollars on the dl than most teams have in payroll.
AD-What critical September games?
We’ll have none unless we do something now.
I don’t recall any situation where booing made the intended target play better
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Let’s admit it we could never prove this one way or the other. Reggie was booed like crazy for two months then went bananas when he came here…maybe it was the boos maybe not. Can’t prove it either way.
I wagered that the Yanks would not have a five game losing streak this season…I based that on the strength of their rotation….They had a streak where they went somthing like 3 seasons never losing 5 in a row…I think it was 1998 -2000….I keep expecting them to get going, they get back into games, but just can’t get over the top
I would rather see Melancon and Robertson than Veras.
Like it or not booing will never stop. You get 30,000 people together and anything can happen. Good or bad.
As far as a trade, Cashman won’t give up a top name. Think more along the lines of Molina for Jeff Kennard. There are not a lot of available catchers, let alon big names that would be available.
at this time there’s not one SP on this team you can trust & the RP is as bad as it gets,to many if’s on this team to turn it around any time soon
Just send Veras, Robertson, Albaladejo, Edwar etc. out there and hope they turn it around? Force Melancon into big spots even if he doesn’t respond?
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Stick Melancon out there. They are down by two runs. What exactly do they have to lose?
If Melancon doesn’t do the job and they lose by four or five runs then so what?
If Melancon goes out there and keeps them in check – well, then maybe he earns himself another opportunity this weekend.
DT
I really don’t care…Like I said that’s my dad’s name and my nephew’s name and actually is my confirmation name so I really don’t care what it says…but I know a fair bit about this game from a players standpoint.
no problem Big Joe. Congrats on getting drafted.
Didn’t the Yanks draft a guy from your high school – what’s his name? Dang. I can’t remember. It’s right on my tongue.
If not Cash what about Chris Stewart? Is he doing any good catching down there at AAA?
I do get the feeling that Cashman will concede the year before he moves Joba to the pen, so some of you may get your wish. No playoffs, but Joba gets his innings in.
well i dont have kids, youre talkin to a college student here my friends so im obviously not as classy as you folks
im not supporting the use of vulgarity or anything but you pump a stadium full of testosterone, beer, and competition and thats usually the direction things head in.. just wanted to see what you all thought.
Pepitone-We know they’re venting. Our way of venting is being mad at the venters for venting in unproductive ways.
Big Joe: It’s a baseball game. They serve alcohol. You’re bringing your kids into the real world, which is full of adults. When a drunk swears, teach them that the person swearing is an imbecile and it’s pretty much a win-win for you and the guy or girl that’s cussing. You can’t expect to raise your child in a bubble outside of your own house. At least at a ballpark you can teach him that swears are vulgar, whereas at school he’s just going to assume they’re a standard part of the way people talk to eachother.
This is where we turn it around!
Go Yanks!
Bring back KRAZY KYLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
BOOOOOOOO…
Hey everyone just remember… At least we have Mo for tonight.
Reggie was booed like crazy for two months then went bananas when he came here…maybe it was the boos maybe not. Can’t prove it either way.
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Yes, I’m sure the booing turned his season around.
Maybe it was his Hall of Fame talent that might’ve helped him turn it around?
Check that…
Next inning!
Go Yanks!
Joe Girardi was a great Yankee and a great man
However, this job isin’t for him. He doesn’t connect with the player and inspire and motivate them. He doesn’t know how to get his teams through adversity.
Going to be sad to see him go, but it is for the best. Pena has the personality to get through to this team.
Good job Melky… way to take a pitch you moron. How many pitches have you actually seen this game? 2? 3?
wipe the bullpen clean. These guys are killing us.
I don’t care aboutthe runners in scoring position problem.
A struggling offense just made a gritty four run comeback. Hold them!
“Al from BK-Go blog about the Jets then.
After all, every season ends in May.”
The Jets news is slow right now, as far as sports goes. I am stuck watching the “Bombers” until training camp. Can we ever get out to a good start I don’t think this team has had a quick start for several years now.
If they don’t move Joba to the pen, they are sacrificing this year for his development.
Not saying I disagree with it, but that is the message they are sending to the fans, players, and everyone.
There is no other solution to fix the pen, none. No trade until July and what stud reliever is available? Is Russ Springer going to come here to save the day? Nobody left in the farm either to bring up.
Without Joba, this is the pen for rest of the year. And we’re going to sink with it.
Typical Yankee game this year:
*Starter gives up runs early with high pitch count.
*Yanks battle back and get it close.
*Starter whose pitch count is already up gives back lead and leaves game earlier than expected.
*Bullpen gives up additional runs.
*Yanks lose despite having tying run on base several times late in game.
chambliss May 7th, 2009 at 9:49 pm
Let’s hope that A-Rod can give this team a lift. They are really down right now.
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just as long get himself a lift
PJ would be the guy if he could have shown a better arm. He hit over .300 but threw out just 2-of-20 runners. Cash was hitting before he got hurt. I can’t see anyone but Cash getting the spot. I know he hasn’t hit in the majors but there are not options. Stewart has been ok at SWB but he missed time with an injury also.
franco – exactly!!! if these guys are talented they wont let what a bunch of drunks yelling at them affect their game. remember, baseball is 90% mental and the other half is physical.
Veras back in?????? WHY???
The season isn’t quite over yet.
I checked. The Yankees magic number is 125.
Any combination of Yankee losses and Sox wins equaling 125 and the season is indeed over.
I draw the line at saying “come on [slumping player's name] in a slightly-cross voice. Then I clap with urgency. That usually does the trick.
this team has NO HEART…another year for the fans to be embarassed to root for the team of BUMS that are before our eyes…
More Veras?
Thanks DT but it didn’t last long. they didn’t draft anyone from Leto this year I know that much. they got a USF guy though but that’s the closest they got.
If they have to make a move, it’ll probably be either Kevin Cash or Chris Stewart. They’re pretty similar, defense first catchers.
from Chad jennings
“Abe/s Odd World May 7th, 2009 at 9:54 pm
Good job Melky… way to take a pitch you moron. How many pitches have you actually seen this game? 2? 3?”
Melky has two walks you freaking moron.
2009 DL TEAM
POSADA
MARTE
WANG
BRUNEY
MOLINA*
NADY
Al from BK: Seriously, their April wasn’t bad. Their May has started slow, and even that’s not over yet.
Patience is a virtue. This team is way too talented not to go on a run, and soon.
This just proves the 90′s teams didn’t have magical “toughness” that allowed them to win. We make comebacks too. In the 90′s their pitching and bullpen just came through to give the offense time to complete the comeback.
Al from BK: Seriously, their April wasn’t bad. Their May has started slow, and even that’s not over yet.
Patience is a virtue. This team is way too talented not to go on a run, and soon.
This just proves the 90′s teams didn’t have magical “toughness” that allowed them to win. We make comebacks too. In the 90′s their pitching and bullpen just came through to give the offense time to complete the comeback.
Must need to keep veras occupied while they clean out his locker….
Enough with the Joba in the Pen. Let’s put CC, AJ, and Joba in the Pen. That way we’d have 6,7,8, and the 9th wrapped up!
I agree that the strength and conditioning programs of the Yankees have to be looked into, 2 of the top catchers go down within 3 days and add to that Jeter and AROD’s quad injuries last season…the Yanks seem to not have anything for them lately…sometimes you have to look at how the organization is being run
Nice…. more Veras!
We are a sinking ship folks.
Big Joe
May 7th, 2009 at 9:57 pm
Thanks DT but it didn’t last long. they didn’t draft anyone from Leto this year I know that much. they got a USF guy though but that’s the closest they got.
No Big Joe. The year before you got drafted.
“Good job Melky… way to take a pitch you moron. How many pitches have you actually seen this game? 2? 3?”
You watching this game or one only playing in our head? Check the boxscore and get back to us.
We’re like last year’s Tigers that were hyped all winter and flopped out of the gate and never recovered.
Like them, we have the worst pitching in baseball. CC is the only one who is going to straighten out. Hughes/Joba will go through growing pains all yr as young pitchers. Burnett is a 3.81 starter. Andy is an innings eater at this stage. And who knows about Wang?
Teixeiramvp, I’m sorry, I was just equating Tex to A-Rod in big spots. No biggie.
Jeter, Posada, ARod, Molina, and Posada are all older players.
We need a youth movement.
“If they have to make a move, it’ll probably be either Kevin Cash or Chris Stewart. They’re pretty similar, defense first catchers.
from Chad jennings”
Most likely will be Cash given his time in the bigs.
“Pepitone-We know they’re venting. Our way of venting is being mad at the venters for venting in unproductive ways.”
OK, you win, I give! Uncle! Ucle!
“Good job Melky… way to take a pitch you moron. How many pitches have you actually seen this game? 2? 3?”
Melky has two walks you freaking moron.”
What do some of you have against Melky? He’s the one I’d least worry about in our lineup. At least he’s htting the ball
Vince – Melky is a idiot and so are you.
Without Joba, this is the pen for rest of the year. And we’re going to sink with it.
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Joba cannot do it all by himself. At least two or three other arms have to step up.
Besides, having Joba in the pen tonight would not have made a damn bit of difference.
They used Joba the same way they use Mo – 80% when they are leading and 20% when they are tied.
Neither Torre nor Girardi ever used Joba or Mo when the Yanks were down and the Yanks haven’t had a lead in four games.
Just heard Sterling say something unusual: “and Veras has a 1-2-3″.
I never thought I’d say this, but even Michael Kay sounds bored and fed-up with this team.
Did anyone else just lose their picture on yes?
Veras-you did the job this inning.
Sean Serritella-Career wise Tex is great in big spots.
I thought he had like over a 400 avg. with men on third and less than two outs.
You know what’s funny after a Yankee loss? You watch the interviews after and you see Jeter making no excuses and that the team is struggling.. MEMO TO JETER: How about being a Captain and taking charge and righting this ship? I’m tired of seeing the same old postgame story.. Do they ever have player meetings after a streak like this?
Good job Veras
That probably bought him another week of appearances
Girardi has mailed it in… he knows he is dead man walking
Managing just like Willie Randolph did before he was fired
I like Girardi, but no way he is going to survive this. Too much public pressure to keep him while we continue to slide
What can Jeter possibly do besides play well to right this ship?
“It’s a baseball game. They serve alcohol. You’re bringing your kids into the real world, which is full of adults.”
Adults know better than to be overserved and act like fools especially in a place where children might be.
I think the team needs to hire a priest to perform a exorcism on the entire team. We are cursed.
I think I follow the logic. Our starter gave up 5 runs in 6 innings tonight and most of the lineup is struggling, therefore we need to put Joba in the bullpen to save the season.
Makes perfect sense.
Oh good…we’ve got the Trenton Thunder portion of the line-up coming up…
This team needs a real CF. Melky would be a started on a NL team and Gardner would be a 4th OF on a NL team.
DT…yeah…you mean Figga? I thought you meant this year. We have not turned out much lately.
“Abe/s Odd World May 7th, 2009 at 10:00 pm
Vince – Melky is a idiot and so are you.”
Ok, whatever you say. Nice comeback. Don’t have the balls to admit you were entirely wrong?
starteR
Great… Veras had a scoreless inning after he already gave up the run
That will earn him the role as setup man
I guess we’re counting on June to be our month
so who’s next for catcher? PJ Pellitierre? I think Cash should stay up tonight and fix the 40 man roster. Big time.
Teixeiramvp, I’m not sure what his career numbers are but this year I think he’s 1-for-21 with men on base.
Dave D.-Unfortuantely, and I’m a big Girardi guy who always thought he’d make it to next year, you may be right.
The interesting thing is that I’ve noticed all the sports guys keep on our side while fas jump ship. And I know, not all sports guys. But they were talking to this non NY sports announcer. and he said he thought the Yanks would make the playoffs. Go figure.
If I am Cash, I contact the Royals about JR House for catcher. Brayan Pena cleared waivers and is also in Omaha. They are high on Pena and the organization was happy when he cleared waivers. House is stuck and has a good bat, fair catching skills.
the Yanks need to get it going here
Hopefully the last Pena at bat I see for a while.
Good job Veras
That probably bought him another week of appearances
So veras has about one good inning for about every 8 innings he is out there… so he deserves to stay?
I hope he is DFA’ed right after the game…. Id rather have Jackson or Clagget…. let the young arms get some work in.
How id he a dead man walking? Give me a break
Longoria. is. ridiculous.
Too many quiters here this season at The LoHud…..Bad teammates…..
I think I follow the logic. Our starter gave up 5 runs in 6 innings tonight and most of the lineup is struggling, therefore we need to put Joba in the bullpen to save the season.
Makes perfect sense.
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Yep, that’s the answer. Joba in the pen is going to fix EVERYTHING.
Never mind that the Yanks haven’t had a lead in four games and Joba was never used when the Yanks were down.
Vince May 7th, 2009 at 9:57 pm
“Abe/s Odd World May 7th, 2009 at 9:54 pm
Good job Melky… way to take a pitch you moron. How many pitches have you actually seen this game? 2? 3?”
Melky has two walks you freaking moron.
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Sean Serritella-Hopefully history tells us he’ll bring it around.
There’s really no point in putting Joba in the pen with Girardi managing this team anyhow. He’ll still lose it someway.
Benny — Rest assured this team isn’t cursed. They’re simply nowhere near good enough.
I don’t think I can take this much longer………..OK, which of you wise guys stole my pacifier?
Melky has been craptastic and would start only on an NL team. Austin Jackson is a better OF and a better hitter.
Who said Joba has to be the setup man? He can be your “relief ace” of sorts and come in when the situation is the highest leverage. It might be the 6th or 7th.
Bruney can stay the setup man
Coke has been fine
Marte has a solid track record
Melancon will hopefully step up.
Joba lengthens the pen. They you don’t have to go to Veras and Albaladejo in 1-run games like we have had to do. Girardi can’t abuse Coke everyday, he knows that.
I think I follow the logic. Our starter gave up 5 runs in 6 innings tonight and most of the lineup is struggling, therefore we need to put Joba in the bullpen to save the season.
Makes perfect sense.
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pat m, if this wasnt just a continuation of our haplessness with runners in scoring position from last season i dont think we’d be such pessimists. unfortunately, last year i was one of the fools that thought we would still find a way to make the playoffs.. im gonna do what i can not to make that mistake again this year until i know for sure we’re locked in.
“You know what’s funny after a Yankee loss? You watch the interviews after and you see Jeter making no excuses and that the team is struggling.. MEMO TO JETER: How about being a Captain and taking charge and righting this ship? I’m tired of seeing the same old postgame story.. Do they ever have player meetings after a streak like this?”
How do you know Derek didn’t hold a meeting already? What do you have an insight on what goes on in the clubhouse?
Tex- Jeter isn’t even playing well defensively or offensively. Sometimes you lead by example or maybe show some emotion in the clubhouse.. I don’t see any of that in his personality.. But people will ridicule Joba for a fistpump after getting out of a rough spot.. This team needs more players like Joba and that is why I love Joba.. Yanks are a bunch of babies and blame this on injuries.. I don’t buy that for one second. I bet you money that the Dodgers will rally without Manny and stay the pace.
“2009 DL TEAM
POSADA
MARTE
MOLINA*
NADY”
37,34,33,30 = avg. age 33 yrs. old
observations:
1. Who’s left to catch?
2. Can Tex hit a breaking ball?
3. How did Cano forget how to hit?
4. Why is Veras still on the team?
5. With this pitching, will having Alex back even matter?
6. Why do some people act like these games dont matter because it isnt september yet?
jennifer-I want him to stay and think he is actually not a bad manager but the pressure may be too much.
And even if Damon ties it we’ll lose with our bullpen. Sigh.
DT…yeah…you mean Figga? I thought you meant this year. We have not turned out much lately.
Yeah that’s it Figga. He was a character wasn’t he!
You remember his nickname right?
Please Damon, get on to give Tex one more chance with runners on base.
I can’t knock Pena…except for a few errors, he’s done more than anyone has expected. He put some good at-bats together tonight.
All the experts picked us to finish in 3rd and everyone here talked about how they know nothing
Well, they certainly knew more than the people here, apparently.
Good thought about trading for House. Not sure if he would be available or what price but KC has good catching.
damon!!!!!!!!!!!!!
melky has been craptastic? he has the highest average on the team!
BOOO!!!
Johnny Rocket.
Is Johnny Damon the only player on this team right now? He’s keeping them afloat.
Damon truly is unbelievable.
I’m speechless.
DAMON IS A GAMER!!!!
Johnny Damon is my god right now.
Are. You. Kidding me.
Come on bullpen.
Who was it earlier that said the Rays pen was so good? Please.
bullpen gives it right back in the bottom of the inning.
Check Johnny for Juice!!!
Wow he’s locked in!!!
positively Damonic!
No quit in Johnny
Johnny’s the man
Damon is their crutch.
Nice job Damon!
well hell at least we have damon. sign him up for 2010.
pat m -
they will be a different team tomorrow night when arod comes back. they may till lose, but it won’t be in the same way.
i really think teixeira/arod back to back is going to be a force.
how can it not be?
Damons back has to be freaking killing him
thank god damon is playing for a contract this year or else we’d have scored NO runs at all this season.
Yeah BABY!!!!!!!!!!
All tied up!
Well Johnny sure loves to do it in the clutch.
Thank God for Damon. Now, does Mo come in?
So, who is going to give up a run this inning?
Mark “Warning Track” Teixeira
Johnny D!!!!!
Giants- Has Pete A. (a guy around the clubhouse frequently) mentioned any Jeter meetings? I haven’t heard him say so.. SO maybe that tells me something. No insight needed.. Maybe they need a 10 game losing streak to qualify for that.
Hey – if you guys think this bullpen is great, more power to you.
But don’t complain when we’re sitting at home in October, again.
The starters will figure it out, they have track records. The bullpen doesn’t.
OK, can we win this one now, please?
To lose this one would be doubly crushing.
Please bullpen.
It is now officially not the offense’s fault.
And Kay finally showing life.
I think Joe needs to sit down and have a talk with Mark. Lately he has gotten jumpy no longer even working the walk. Tell him we know he has talent and he has to go back to doing what he does best.
So glad we had Veras pitch the 7th and not Mahlanson!!!
“1. Who’s left to catch?”
Believe it or not I think Cervelli will hit better than Molina. Just watch
You guys notice the only guy who plays with any grit and heart is a former Red Sox player? Something to think about…
Johnny Damon REALLY wants to come back next year, and if he keeps this up, there is absolutely no reason not to bring him back. He is this team’s MVP right now.
This team just keeps fighting.
I give them credit. Everything against them, and they just don’t give up.
At some point in time this team needs to pull one out. Tonight would be nice. I can’t take another episode of Groundhog’s Day.
“You guys notice the only guy who plays with any grit and heart is a former Red Sox player? Something to think about…”
He’s the only one who has hit in the clutch in the last 4 years, and hit in the playoffs.
man good job tex… one pitch, and boom you are back under .200.
…Veras?
Really?
Lord God Jesus, why? What did we ever do to deserve this?
Boy to lose this one would suck so bad.
Big hit there for Damon, now can they grind out this damn win, Texeria needs a day on the bench, he is absolutely killing this team right now
“Tex- Jeter isn’t even playing well defensively or offensively. Sometimes you lead by example or maybe show some emotion in the clubhouse.. I don’t see any of that in his personality.. ”
Another one. Do you see what goes on in the clubhouse too? How do you know what Jeter says to his team?
he’s also the only one playing for a contract.. thats usually a pretty good motivator.
Marianoooooooooo!
Whew. I thought Girardi had lost his G.D. mind there for a minute.
Sterling and Waldman, Veras 3 and a 3rd inning outing was the Oakland game that he was awesome in…the Melky walk off game.
Some have preached patience regarding Tex. However, to-date he is the worst third-place hitter in baseball.
Jeet has been playing very passable defense and has at least two hits this game, as well as two game winning hits.
DAMON
“E-gawa
May 7th, 2009 at 9:53 pm
Hey everyone just remember… At least we have Mo for tonight.”
lol.. hopefully we win this time.
“Big hit there for Damon, now can they grind out this damn win, Texeria needs a day on the bench, he is absolutely killing this team right now”
Agreed but not possible with this lineup. I don;t want Swish at 1b and GGBG in the lineup. They need Miranda up here to see what he can do.
Mo time
Thank god that was just a waste some time move there with Veras and Rivera
How’s Miranda’s minor league numbers? And if they’re any good, why is he not here pinch hitting?
“All the experts picked us to finish in 3rd and everyone here talked about how they know nothing
Well, they certainly knew more than the people here, apparently.”
same experts picked rays to finish 1st or 2nd and they’re under us right now.
E-gawa May 7th, 2009 at 9:53 pm
Hey everyone just remember… At least we have Mo for tonight.
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What was that, E-gawa?
Some experts called us third, most called us first, and I’ve interestingly noted that most of them are not backing off their predictions yet. Most.
when is the last time we had the lead in a game?
Terry from NH
May 7th, 2009 at 9:36 pm
I wish I got paid to fail miserably!
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Being the deep fryer at McDonald’s isn’t exactly a career to be proud of.
“Giants- Has Pete A. (a guy around the clubhouse frequently) mentioned any Jeter meetings? I haven’t heard him say so.. SO maybe that tells me something. No insight needed.. Maybe they need a 10 game losing streak to qualify for that.”
Dum dum….Pete is part of the Media. Why and how would Pete know what goes on in clubhouse team meeting? Usually thats between coaches and players. Its not like the media can walk inside the clubhouse any time they please if thats what you think. The Media is only aloud in at certain times. Think about it
Miranda is hitting .299 with 6 hr, 24 RBIs. His average has dropped but he is doing ok, lol.
Randy I, I think he’ll provide a different mindset…..Texeria is just missing on every swing…..He’s getting close
Sorry Franco, I owned up to it before you.
“Jeet has been playing very passable defense and has at least two hits this game, as well as two game winning hits.”
1 b/c it was really Gardner in Tampa who won it. When we’re pointing out things like that, there is definitely some issues.
Cervelli looks comfy.
mo’s velocity is down quite a bit, anyone else noticing that?
I’m excited about Melancon as the next guy, but what based on his last few starts makes you think he’s the guy for a 1 run game? The guy has walked 5-6 batters his last 3 appearances…
you think cervelli is having some fun back there catching mo?
he’s pumped.
GreenBeret7. Neither is pretending to have any affiliation to a branch of the U.S. military. Pansy.
Tex isn’t even drawing walks anymore which is a bad sign.
Brandon “We are all going to meet Berroa under the Oneill banner” “I LOVE ME SOME ME !”-Gardy didn’t get the game winning hit. He did well, but somebody needed to get that hit.
And the eighth inning HR was all Jeet.
OH NOES!
YOU ARE JOKING.
fongool
God freakin’ damn
GreenBeret did you google that joke? In fact I worked a 15 hr day today. What did you do? Put your mom’s clothing on and watch “The View”?
there.are.no.words.
.. not so much fun now. bummer.
Well…that was fun.
2009 yankees: tie game, lose game next inning.
#$#Q@#(*U$*#~~~~~!!!!!!
Mo gave up another run.
Mo will pitch better when ARod comes back.
well that was fun while it lasted.
What a disaster.
Our bullpen sucks.
Mo too?
The Mo we’ve all come to know and love.
Girardi is a schmuck for using him 2 nights in a row. */sarcasm*
That is just horrible
Pains me to say this, but we might have seen the last of the dominant Mo..
What a day to be a Yankee fan.. when you people going to realize that no matter how optimistic we are; that this is just the roll the team is on?
….
Watchingthids team is like getting gut puched repeatedly. You keep getting up, but in the end it’s only pain.
our Yanks are in deep doo-doo !!!
goodnight
has mo EVER given up back to backs?????
MO is god.
lol failpen activated
Maybe it’s time for him to add a change up ?
ok then.
This. Team. Sucks.
This bullpen is awful.
This is just unreal. We can not buy a stupid game.
By the way this ballpark and the team is a joke.
hey, lookit that. they found another way to lose. special stuff.
mo is not right.
Say it ain’t Mo….
Longoria is already a superstar, case in point
Wow just unbelievable
Now here’s the funny part… Had he been used in the 10th last night.. he wouldn’t be here tonight.
Ace
May 7th, 2009 at 10:20 pm
GreenBeret7. Neither is pretending to have any affiliation to a branch of the U.S. military. Pansy.
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I don’t know of anybody pretending, either.
Good thing we saved Mo for tonight. Not.
it’s time to clean house.
FITS about to hit the shan!
I’m now officially a bridge jumper.
Joba to the bullpen as our new closer.
Tex should be traded.
Getting it out of my system, guys.
so how can girardi be blamed for this one?
Mo will pitch better when ARod comes back.
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hahahhaha
oh mo
“GreenBeret7. Neither is pretending to have any affiliation to a branch of the U.S. military. Pansy.”
Nice Ace..lol
This team sucks!!!
Fire the manager already. I had enough!!!
Never thought I’d say this, but can we have Veras back?
It feels like deja vu all over again. Not using Mo an extra inning last night just postponed the inevitable.
Why’s Edwar Ramirez wearing Mo’s jersey?
Team finds new ways to lose games. Sign of a bad team.
91 MPH?
fruitbat is electrifying tonight
Addendum to my “Mo Rules”
No back to back games.
Only save situations.
I’m telling you guys, this stadium is ^#$#(&^%$ haunted!!! Can we move back to the old place now?
No excuses for Mo’s slow start. He is not the same pitcher. Period.
Melancon better get real good real fast.
Your 2009 Yankees: finding new ways to lose every night!
Can arod pitch?
“1 b/c it was really Gardner in Tampa who won it. When we’re pointing out things like that, there is definitely some issues.
Cervelli looks comfy.”
How clueless are you Brandon? Jeter had a game winning hit in the Wednesday afternoon game in Tampa in the top of the 9th inning. Here’s your proof
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/boxscore?gid=290415130
Oh dear
A-rod will save the day.
>so how can girardi be blamed for this one?
by existing, apparently.
“so how can girardi be blamed for this one?”
Jose Veras?
I’ve been watching gameday all year this year. I’m telling you Mariano’s velocity is way done, sometimes 4 or 5 mph done. When right he is usually at 93 mph consistently and can hit 95. This year, he never really goes above 91. He’s been consistently at 90, sometimes at 88 or 89. Even Buster Olney said he spoke to a scout who said Mariano’s cutter is simply not cutting. On Baseball Tonight, they said Mariano looked like he had some sort of injury as he was grimacing after a pitch. Who knows?
So that is now 4 home runs….He needs to etiher toy with another pitch or the end is almost here…His ball has zero cut and location. I don’t want to hear anything about being a troll it is obvious what is happening here..Everyone is seeing it….
It’s not Girardi’s fault. You give up 6 HR in a game, you deserve to lose. When was the last time, by the way, that the Yankees lost 5 straight at home?
Mo is getting booed. This year I swear.
But no, we don’t need to Joba to start prepping to be the closer…
Right Pete?
I’ve never seen the bal taken from Mo before the inning ends before. Ever.
Bad sign, I am miserable.
Once again we find a way to loose not to win!!!
I am soo mad right now.
Imagine this team being 20 games under 500. THen literally no one will go to the game. Hank and HAl will loose all their money, girardi will be fired for sure and cashman will be gone. And then we can start over
Did Mo just get booed? Those people should be shot. Still, when was the last time Mo has be pulled mid-inning?
Houston, we have a problem.
“Can arod pitch?”
if by pitch, you mean take steroids, then yes.
I was wrong
Mo is also Well Done.
lets wait until 2020 before yankees will be of any relevance
why did they take mo out?
Wow. How often do you see Mo get pulled from a game? I don’t know that I ever have.
Mo’s given up 4 HR this year in 11 innings. His career high as a closer was 2001 when he gave up 5 in 80 innings.
this house is not a home
hey what a surprise !…another night, another loss….this time it is MO that does us in….Wahooo…..WE STINK !
Brandon “We are all going to meet Berroa under the Oneill banner” “I LOVE ME SOME ME !”
May 7th, 2009 at 10:22 pm
Maybe it’s time for him to add a change up ?
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I don’t know why he doesn’t. The ones that he threw to Ryan Howard last year in ST. were as good as anything that Santa’s throw.
I guess we really are counting on June to be our month
is mo hurt?
Girardi was a better player then manager now that is funny to sat
I don’t recall ever seeing Mo taken out of a game.
Now should we assume an injury? The manager never pulls Mo…
“Addendum to my “Mo Rules”
No back to back games.
Only save situations.”
Addendum to the addendum:
3 run leads only?
Mark it down. The Yankees will have a losing record this year. That’s it, I said it.
Robertson coming in
Mo out
It’s also telling that Mo isn’t close to being one the biggest problems on this team, although his failings underscore that this is indeed the worst bullpen in baseball.
Mos average fastball, 89mph
Time to blow this whole thing up and start over. With our money and resources, it won’t take long. Gotta shake things up. We’ve been trying to patch things together since 2003 with high priced free agents and it just hasn’t worked.
mo has gotta be hurt. he’s giving up home runs at an unprecedented rate, his velocity is down (at least according to gameday), and when he’s not giving up home runs, he’s giving up base hits.
and we thought the wheels came off last year. hold on, folks. it’s going to get ugly.
I couldn’t think of a more embarrassing team to root for. The Nationals are bad, but at least their payroll is low. I believe this will be my last night here for a while.
WOW they cannot buy a win. they need to hit the road.
Things have not been this bad since they were 11 and 19 a few years ago.
nothing is going right. they comeback all the time but never get over the hump.
wow
is this pitching change a good thing or did Girardi just give up on the game?
When Mo fails like that, it only serves to remind us that he is a human being, not a robot. Which makes his accomplishments all the more remarkable.
There is no way we wn this game.
I’m trying to jinx myself to force them to come back.
Veras > Mo
“The Yankees will have a losing record this year. That’s it, I said it.”
Great Guru, what else do you foresee in this coming year?
Wake me when Cashman is finally and deservedly let go.
I for one still believe in Mo. He goes through a bad streak every year. Hopefully we’ll win big tomorrow and not need him.
What a night for Pete to take off..
Two things that’s never happened in a game before. Pettitte giving up 4 homers and Rivera giving up back-to-back homers.
Yanks are going to need a closer and catcher before they even realize it. Maybe it is time for Joba to go to the bullpen and get prepared for closing..I kid..
The new stadium is cursed.
Geez first swept by the Sox TWICE, now a possible sweep by the Rays? Pinch me I must be dreaming?
Mo Rivera being replaced in the 9th inning. If that isn’t the final straw than I don’t know what is.. This is the lowest point of the season by far.. Being from NH and the Sox 13-3 winners.. I may just call in sick tomorrow and hide all day! What an embarrassment to a Yankee fan right now.
give up 8 more runs tonight.
can they pitch at all??? 3rd worse ERA in baseball that is catostrophic…
Mariano’s made about zero adjustments since the beginning of the season. His cutter just looks flat. I say we try to get value for him now.
Why longoria is the player of the game.
wow I mean****
First time since 1998 that Rivera served up back to back….90 mph cookies…
wow we really stink….. i hope nobody sugarcoat anything now (specially Jeter ang Girardi) just admit that the team stinks….. FIRE CASHMAN!!! let’s build a team again….
Debate:
Girardi a better manager or player?
I say player. He sucks at being a manager.
Batting average .267
Hits 1,100
Runs batted in 422
Can you say DONE?
D-O-N-E
Should have kept in Veras
Clueless Girardi uses MO on back to back days and in a tie game, where he is awful.
And he wonders why MO has been a disaster this year, the manager has NO idea how to use him
Now fans booed Mo? Sick,
“I believe this will be my last night here for a while.”
Promises, promises…
Mo is no longer the greatest closer in the game. The last time he seemed to be really great was his heroic performance in game 7 of the 2003 ALCS. After that, it’s same old, same old. Getting lit up with the game on the line. Unable to close important games with a lead. Being brought in too early, being used in non-save situations.
Torre’s line of reasoning in bringing in Mo where there is no margin for error was that the team was to either win or lose with their best player. I think of how Mo quickly unraveled in game 7 of the 2001 World Series. Or his choke job in the 2004 ALCS after game three. Whenever Mo cost the team the game, it made me think under those circumstances Mo was simply not the best anymore. His best years are over.
Wow the first idiot to criticize the use of Mo. What a shock. Joe can’t win with you people can he?
“When Mo fails like that, it only serves to remind us that he is a human being, not a robot. Which makes his accomplishments all the more remarkable.”
Accomplishments are in the past. He’s blown 2 games to the most feared rivals in the division within the last 2 weeks.. This team can’t afford to live in the past much longer!
Game 3 of the opening series against Boston in ’05 is the last time that I can remember Mo getting pulled during an inning.
He may