Red Sox steamed at Joba
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The Red Sox are not too pleased with Joba Chamberlain.
This from our friends at WEEI’s Full Count blog:
Speaking on the Dale and Holley (radio) Show, Red Sox pitching coach John Farrell insinuated that the Sox were suspicious of the motivations of Yankees starter Joba Chamberlain when he hit Jason Bay in the fifth inning of the Red Sox’ win Tuesday night.
“Typically, we let the game play out itself because I think our guys have each others backs and they are certainly going to be supportive if a situation like that were to arise,” Farrell said. “Speaking specifically about last night, he strikes out 12 guys, doesn’t seem to have too many command issues, and if there was a purpose or intent to throw up and in you can disguise it a little bit more than making it very obvious with the first pitch in the middle of the back to Jason Bay. Those things aren’t forgotten. We know there is a history there between the pitcher in New York and our guys here and not to say that he was specifically out to do that but I think history speaks for itself and we’ve got a number of games left with these guys.”
Given that Joe Girardi thought Boston 1B coach Tim Bogar was swiping signs the night before, it’s not much a surprise Joba hit somebody. Plus Bay has just been murdering the Yankees.
The team play again on June 9 in Boston. We’ll see what happens then.
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Chad Jennings
Sam Borden
Josh Thomson
Make them eat dirt, lets get a little brawl going that will spark this team
Yeah history. Can he say Pedro or Beckett?
Good, we need pitchers who are going to show the opposing team they are not going to let BS slide. That is why I liked Scott Proctor so much.
Joba did walk a couple guys last night, so it’s not like he had impeccable control.
I think the Red Sox are just upset that they can’t throw at Jeter and A-Rod with impunity anymore. Torre’s “we’re too classy to retaliate” show has hit the road.
Someone on the Yankees is headed for the disabled list – probably Alex.
It’s going to be awesome when an opposing pitcher breaks Arod’s wrist because everybody’s favorite DUI pitcher keeps throwing at people.
Joba is literally the trashiest pitcher in MLB right now.
The Red Sox and their fans are just laughing at the Yankees right now. The entire organization has been thoroughly humiliated.
Joba’s antics on the mound sure didn’t help.
Its funny, all those years Pedro Martinez was using Yankee hitters as target practice, we heard nary a word from the Red Sox and their faithful.
Now, Joba Chamberlain is Public Enemy #1?
If that’s what they want, ok by me.
If they they drill a Yankee the next time they play, you just start throwing drilling guys. That will stop it in a hurry.
Why not bring up Austin Jackson until Nady gets back. If he’s does well leave him there and make Swisher the power guy off the bench. Send Melky and Gardner back to AAA where they both belong.
Why not ask the Angels what they think of the fb that went inches away from Bobby’s head. Oh that was a slip. But Joba’s was intentional. Tell them to shut up and play.
Oh please, give me a break.
This is all gamemanship. If you don’t throw inside and give hitters that part of the plate, they are going to kill you.
All of this tough talk is BS. They don’t like it? Do something about it.
Once one of their gets hurt, it will stop.
Again, Pedro pitched like this for years and nobody from Boston said anything. Funny how that is, isn’t it?
“It’s going to be awesome when an opposing pitcher breaks Arod’s wrist because everybody’s favorite DUI pitcher keeps throwing at people.
Joba is literally the trashiest pitcher in MLB right now.”
I know. I hated those 12 trashy K’s the other night. What does that even mean? Trashiest pitcher in MLB?
“Typically, we let the game play out itself because I think our guys have each others backs and they are certainly going to be supportive if a situation like that were to arise,” Farrell said.”
He’s basically telling his pitchers to hit one of our guys the next time we play.
Hey, thats part of the game crybaby Farrell. I seem to remember he had no problem with Pedro continually hitting our guys when he was with Boston. Bay has looked too comfortable at the plate against the yanks and Joba was simply trying to back him off. I don’t think he meant to hit him, but you can’t let hitters intimidate you either. For years, I wish they did that to Big Papi, but never did.
Boy, I wonder if John Farrell likes cheese on his waaaa-mburgers.
It’s not like his quote-unquote ace has made a healthy habit of being a “sheriff” on the mound and just this year got suspended for more severe thuggery. What the Red Sox want is to just whine and complain publicly so that they can try and neutralize Joba’s pitching style while simultaneously justifying their own pitching staff’s upcoming antics.
Furthermore, all the talk of “oh God this is going to get a Yankee hurt OMG!” is stupid because this is a part of baseball, if the Red Sox want to follow the code they will retaliate without intent to injure and the games will just go on, maybe with some added chippiness. If it goes beyond that, then it’s another story.
Why are the red sox such whiny little b-tches?
they didnt seem to care when they were hitting yankees three times as much. I really want to see a huge brawl this year. See swish take it to beckett.
SJ- We finally had pitchers on this team that will stand up for their hitters and the soxs are running away scared. Now they can’t just hit Jeter and not expect someone on thier team to get on in the ribs.
The media in Boston are a bunch of homers, as well as the talk show hosts…it almost as bad if not worse than the Washington Press Core.
They all seem to have revisionist history…does the name Pedro remind anyone of anything or better yet Josh Beckett.
It is the same as all talk radio, attle the cage the fan base, get reactions and get callers.
ugh, what whiners they are up in beantown. for years they hit our hitters without fear of retaliation. what a bunch of babies.
Ask me if I care.
“He’s basically telling his pitchers to hit one of our guys the next time we play.”
And when that happens the Yankees will have no right to be pissed since Joba started it.
See how pointless it is?
What did hitting Bay accomplish other than giving Mike Lowell another RBI opportunity? Do you think Bay even gave a f*ck?
lol @ this guy. What exactly is he proving be saying anything at all?
Retalitation kind of loses its effect if you announce in advance that it’s coming.
He’s only chirping because they’re 5-0 against the Yankees.
How can he and Ortiz get away with making veiled threats? I don’t get it.
Boston needs to quit whining. The red sox have been throwing at Jeter and Soriano all the time. Didn’t they send Soriano to the hospital. Its about time yankee pitchers do the same. The ball Joba threw at Bay wasn’t by his head or anything it hit him in the back.
Let them throw at A-Rod I hope then Burnett or Joba throws at Youkillis and sends him to the DL.
Cry me a river. Why would Joba hit Bay and put a man in scoring position? The Red Sox sweep back to back series and still whine. Give me a break.
Jason Bay has been sitting at the plate in a rocking chair and killing Yankee pitching. Joba moved him off the plate. BOO HOO. It is baseball! Don’t like it get out of the dugout!
is objective journalism non-existant? Are you just supposing joba did this on purpose and passing it off as fact? Jesus Pete. Try a bit harder.
“Why would Joba hit Bay and put a man in scoring position? ”
Because Joba is a complete and utter idiot.
I will say one thing (because I can never really keep my mouth shut – just ask my husband
). The Red Sox won the game. Isn’t that supposed to be the best revenge?
It would be nice to see AJ take on the enforcer role – he has the stuff and the mentality to do it. He needs to pitch inside and command the plate – but then, I’m not sure he’s currently commanding his pitches well enough to do that.
Of course the Red Sox are steamed at Joba. He’s the only Yankee pitcher they can’t touch.
Maybe Joba thought that Bay had called time out and he didn’t want to hurt himself. I love when the sox pretend that they’re the moral highground.
They scored 4 runs off of him in like 5.2 innings!!!
Jesus Christ
What a shock that Joshy didn’t retaliate. You know why? Because it was in NY. I’d bet my last penny if this occurred in Boston he would have hit someone.
Aaron- sorry to say, but I think that label belongs to you.
I wonder if joba can fight? He’s a pretty big guy but…I don’t think he rough enough around the edges.
They scored 4 runs off him in like 1 inning.
Hari Krishna.
everyone says joba has the issue with class? how bout the little pitching coach who talks from the blog or the dug out making threats?
thats real class.
Tampa gave a brush back pitch to Swisher in Tampa. AJ then did the same thing to Longoria. You didn’t hear any yankee or ray complain and whine on the radio about it.
Its a part of baseball I’m glad Joba is getting in there head.
Yes the red sox pitching coach talked from a blog.
That is exactly what happened.
the statement was silly enough, but this constant bickering is even sillier…it’s baseball, get over it.
remember a few years back when manny got that pitch basically down the middle and eventually led to a fight?
you cannot pitch boston on the inside half of the plate or they start crying. Shocker that that BS ump didnt just throw all the yankees out for questioning his lousy calls all week.
jennifer,
Truthfully? I think Josh is more worried about himself right now. But when he’s going good again, I could see him doing something. Can’t make it too obvious anyway.
If anything this upcoming brawl in June will be the first time Yankees fans really miss Kyle Farnsworth. He would come in real handy in a fight, judging by the number he did on Jeremy Affeldt (and Paul Wilson) some years ago.
Aaron Farrell:
WAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Guess you didn;t have a problem with ‘trashy’ Beckett throwing at Abreu’s head though, heh hypocrite?
Notice there’s always a bench clearing brawl in Fenway? And never at YS? Bunch of sissies. They look to start crap up there but can’t do it in the BX.
Who cares?
At least Joba hit him in the ribs and didn’t go after his head like Beckett did.
Shut up and play the game.
And how many times has Matsuzaka hit Jeter alone? lol. Tavares is a wild and crazy guy, pantomining how to brush someone off the plate.
Yeah, the fact that Beckett basically got away with throwing at Abreu & tossing fuel on the fire with his foul mouth steams me.
Maybe Farrell knows he has an ace in the hole @ MLB headquarters.
It’s all just noise. We fans seem preoccupied with winning the battles-Beat Pavano!, Hit Youk!, crush Beckett!-instead of winning the war.
I saw Jason Bay on a post game interview and he said he didn’t think it was intentional …he actually had good words for Joba…he had no problem so why does anyone else on the Sox ?
Bet it was Beckett stirring up the trouble ..lol…
Go Yankees 2009 !!!
I wonder if Tex can fist fight?
This is what I like with this SP staff. If a Yank gets hit, we have CC, AJ and Joba. They will protect their teammates.
Red Sox coach should shut up.
Insinuated? Joba plunked Bay on purpose to send a message.
Things have changed in the Yankee/Red Sox rivalry. Under Joe Girardi, Yankee pitchers are not treading lightly around the Boston hitters.
But things have also changed with regards to winning. The Red Sox have two World Series titles since 2004 and made the ALCS last year. The Yankees were out of the playoffs in 2008.
I would rather have the Yankee batters getting hit with pitches and be on the winning side of things once again than losing games and doing the plunking.
here is the sad part of this whole story, THIS is the highlight of the Yankee season to date. Not the teams performance, not how they are in control of the East, not how the half billion signings are paying off, not how the improved play of Cano is benefiting this team.
No, just a stupid childish spasm between teams.
Bunch of crybabies….don’t let the recent success fool you…the Boston Red Sox are still the biggest losers in baseball. They win two championships, and they think they’re on top of the world, but that can’t change the awful attitude they walk around with. Pull the lens back, and you can’t deny that we still own them.
I can’t manage a MLB team. I’d be the dirtiest manager ever. I’d bring someone up from AA, put him in there just to drill five consecutive guys in the head, then invite his family over for dinner while he gets suspended. Keep me away from baseball.
Tom in NJ,
Maybe the Sox are afraid that a few thousand Yankee fans will jump in the fray?
Ahh. Would love to have a win tonight. But not liking what I heard about the mood in the clubhouse last night.
Did Nick whine and cry to the media about getting drilled in the elbow? No, he took his hit missed a few games and didn’t say boo.
DiceK vs. Matsui would be a good fight. Funny thing is…I can see matsui throwing Tyson upper-cuts in a old fashion brawl in beantown. Mark it down.
Farrell is a moron. Good for Joba, Billy Martin would be proud!!!!!!!!!
The yankees need to get back to being an itimidating team like those Bronx Zoo teams.
And Jeter needs to stop hugging Mike Lowell whenever he is on the bases.
In case you haven’t realized it yet, Boston is scare of coming in 3rd behind the Rays, Jays or Yanks. They always think like that.
The Yanks are playing poorly, but are not that far behind. It is a long season.
Maybe Joe should have a field trip to the Bowling Alley bar. Loosen them up.
“The Red Sox won the game. Isn’t that supposed to be the best revenge?”
Apparently not when they still have an inferiority complex… which, unfortunately, they shouldn’t have.
As Yankee fan, I have to admit I like their (boston) attitude.
When Yank players got hit by Pedro and other Sox pitchers over and over, have you ever heard this kind of comments from Joe Torre? I didn’t.
yea i’m sure he threw at him on purpose in a game that his team is only trailing 4-3. what a bunch of women up there in boston. they need to get over it.
The red sox will win a occasional battle but the yankees will always win the war. The red sox will be looking up to the yankees in the standings by june.
I was at the game last night …watching the out of town scoreboard and unbelievably I was cheering Pavano on. He did it too ..beat the Sox. So why couldn’t he do that when he was here?
Go Yankees 2009 !!!
Poll question here. Who wins this fight….Pedroia or Edwar? My vote is Edwar gets lucky with a wild right hook and knocks Dustin down.
Brian -
I’m sure you didn’t mean to type what you did, did you?
“I think the Red Sox are just upset that they can’t throw at Jeter and A-Rod with impunity anymore. Torre’s “we’re too classy to retaliate” show has hit the road.”
And in came Giardi’s “I can’t manage” show. With plenty of repeats.
Jerry,
We all liked the fact that Torre didn’t say anything. But his inaction spoke volumes.
I don’t like beaning players on purpose. It’s barbaric and neanderthal.
But this stuff goes back years in recent memory. So, I don’t mind the Yankees leveling the field a little bit.
Ortiz (who should shut up anyway) and the rest of the Sox are shocked that the Yankees are doing anything about it after having free reign for years.
Of course the Red Sox are steamed at Joba. He’s the only Yankee pitcher they can’t touch.
hahahahahah..
If you can’t beat them, plunk them. It’s words Pedro and Clemens lived by for years. It’s nothing new. If Beckett or Lester retaliate, so will the Yanks, and soon it will escalate, and players from both sides will be suspended. How is that good for anyone? It’s stupid. He was upset because Bay crushed him, and rightfully so.
Saying Ferrel or anyone else is a whinning for saying something is just as stupid as standing up for anyone hitting anyone. If Boston pitchers had hit us, we’d be saying the same darn thing. Fact is, they beat the snot out of us, and Joba was upset they rung him up in the first, and came back hard. No biggie. I’d rather Lester not pound one of those mid-ninety fastballs into Jeter’s hands (or A-Rod’s newly reparied hip), so I wish it would all just stop.
“Did Nick whine and cry to the media about getting drilled in the elbow? No, he took his hit missed a few games and didn’t say boo.”
Does Jeter ever whine either? The Sox may have a very good team, but their organization is filled with grade-A whiners.
Hit them again. Every game. The Sox have had this coming for a long time.
Joe Torre in response to the “we want Torre” chant from Tuesday night.
“Those fans are impatient. I enjoyed the 12 years. They weren’t always happy with me,” He said. “I feel for Joe because this kid’s a good manager and he’s going to be a better manager. We’re still talking about the first month of the season. There’s so much baseball to play. There’s a lot of talent on that club and they’re going to win their share of games.” http://www.latimes.com/sports/.....0626.story
“The Red Sox are not too pleased with Joba Chamberlain”
i’m here on cape cod and here’s how my conversations went yesterday with red sox friends though i do everything i can do to not fraternize during red sox/yankee festivities.
they came to me in other words.
here’s how it went.
them :how about that sweep?
me: 40% of yankee key players are out
them :joba chamberlain got hammered
me: he had more k’s in 5 innings than anyone in the past 20 years..
them : how’s his crackhead mother doing?
me : about as good as pedroia’s brother.
them : joba is a head hunter
me: he hit him in the back
them: jason bay is the greatest thing ever
me: the better he does, the more it’s going to cost the red sox
them: he’ll sign cheap like youk and pedroia
me: damonm, matsui, and nady peels off next year. bay would look nice in left field for the yankees.
at that point they decided i wasn’t that much fun to talk to anymore.
In a bench clearing brawl Jeter and his new buddy Pedroia will seek each other out and cuddle in the 3rd base camera block until it all clears up.
Okay, since everyone thinks that’s so funny, I’ll put it a different way.
Of course the Red Sox are steamed, Joba’s the only pitcher that’s in their head.
Poll question here. Who wins this fight….Pedroia or Edwar? My vote is Edwar gets lucky with a wild right hook and knocks Dustin down.
I don’t know, Hobbits can be pretty crafty, so this might be a closer than you think.
Brian
May 7th, 2009 at 11:02 am
“yea i’m sure he threw at him on purpose in a game that his team is only trailing 4-3. what a bunch of women up there in boston. they need to get over it.”
Brian, you win the prize for most ignorant and sexist posting for the day.
Quite frankly some of the women who post on this blog are among the most intelligent bloggers on here Brian.
Personally I am not okay with Joba hitting Bay and I will be quick to add that I am not okay with Beckett or any other Sox pitcher intentionally hitting someone.
Moving people off the plate and pitching inside is a crucial part of the game, but hitting them isn’t in my opinion. It only leads to retaliation and more hit batters on both teams.
If anybody is interested, Selena Roberts is being interviewed on the Leonard Lopate show this afternoon on WNYC-FM, 93.9; there is an online stream at wnyc.org. I imagine everybody is sick of Roberts and her book, but Lopate is a very good interviewer and knowledgeable about baseball. The show runs from 12 to 2, not sure exactly when she is on.
The Red Sox are going to have to get used to being steamed at Joba. Lol.
Here’s the list. Note 3-6.
http://www.baseball-reference......tive.shtml
tb646 why would I want to hear Selena Roberts try to promote her failing book? I’ll pass
Randy l.
Good for you! Our spokesman on the cape.
Joba is piece of trash.He will get his due one day. Joba wouldnt dare do that in a interleague play. He would never lose his control because he knows he will get it when his turn will be up there. And where is Yankee Watson on all this? He is another piece of trash who is biased against the Red Sox. If that was Beckett he would have been punished all ready. For all these years the Yankees bullied the Red Sox, made fun of them, laughing at them and look what happened. The Red Sox won two championships while you didnt win anything. All your high priced players are failing and you dont have enough people to fill the stadium. Karma is a b….
I was actually upset he didn’t gun about a foot higher Beckett style.
I can’t even count how many times I’ve seen Jeter and Arod hit by some Red Sox pitcher.
Sorry cry babies….go ahead and hit Arod and Jeter, but you better be read for the Elf, Bay and Pukelis to take on the chin as well.
Truth of the matter is, Joba has learned the proper way to throw at someone. You hit him square in the back, that way Joba doesn’t get suspended for head hunting.
Boston people are not happy that they actually have to live with Joba and other Yankee pitchers making them uncomfortable in the box. They are hoping that whining will get Joba suspended again.
“Personally I am not okay with Joba hitting Bay and I will be quick to add that I am not okay with Beckett or any other Sox pitcher intentionally hitting someone.
Moving people off the plate and pitching inside is a crucial part of the game, but hitting them isn’t in my opinion. It only leads to retaliation and more hit batters on both teams.”
ray-
how many players have you seen disabled by being hit in the back?
how many players have you seen disabled by being hit by up and in pitches that hit hands and elbows?
it is much safer hitting someone in the back if you want to send a message than throwing two seamers up and in that chase hitters as they try to get out of the way like pedro used to. now that was mean.
joba is simply telling jason bay that he can’t take ownership of the outside part of the plate anymore. is bay injured? disabled? i don’t think so.
will he face joba again and sit on the outside corner?
i don’t think so.
mission accomplised.
Selena is desperate to get people interested in her book. Doesnt really seem to be working so far.
As for the sux, yankees will probably make a play for bay, get him and he will bat .270 and go 0-100 in the clutch.
Red Sox need to take notice, these aren’t the Joe Torre Yankees. They will actually hit someone back.
Like it’s been said they can’t touch him. Outside of that first inning the other day, I’ve never seen the RS knock Joba around.
And now they made too because he knocks them off the plate. Funny!
I will never be in GQ or Men’s Health so I think it is fair in saying this…
Selena Roberts truly has a face for radio.
-dennis
anyone else think poster Christina is a total idiot who seems to not have watched a single game the last 8 years other than the world series?
if the red sox throw at ARod’s hip, it’s on!!!
randy,
I do understand your points.
My issue is that this incident is not over and done with as in mission accomplished.
I think there will be some retaliation and do you want to trust Beckett’s wisdom and sense of fair play to hit someone in the back or does he go for someone’s head and then someone is at risk for being seriously injured.
“Those fans are impatient. I enjoyed the 12 years. They weren’t always happy with me,” He said. “I feel for Joe because this kid’s a good manager and he’s going to be a better manager. We’re still talking about the first month of the season. There’s so much baseball to play. There’s a lot of talent on that club and they’re going to win their share of games.”
OMG he’s actually right :O
BTW Jorge Vasquez is hitting bombs in AA. Bombs, it’s not easy to hit bombs in that park.
I loved the part about how Watson was in the Yanks pocket.
knock ‘em on their asses like Yanks have been hit this decade by sox pitchers. Joba and AJ will not hesitate to show balls.
“Karma is a b….”
christina -
i know you hear that word a lot , but you can’t use it on the blog
Jorge Vasquez is twenty-seven years old. We should not be impressed by this.
Seriously Red Sox? Oh please.
Dellin Betances
6 IP, 6 H, 1 R, 1 ER, 2 BB, 4 K, 6-7 GB/FB
Take a look at 3-6.
http://www.baseball-reference......tive.shtml
Yankees and Sox need to meet under the O’Neill banner before the next game.
It’s the only way to end this.
“Jorge Vasquez is twenty-seven years old. We should not be impressed by this.”
Tell that to Pete. He must have a relative playing in the Mexican League or soemthing.
what? did they forget what happens in baseball? at least he hit them in the f***ing back and the f***ing head.
“Jorge Vasquez is twenty-seven years old. We should not be impressed by this.”
He’ll be in AAA, but his bat and power is for real, his patience at the American level is starting to transition well, this ain’t no Shelley Duncan believe you me.
Great start for Dellin yesterday Brandon. Big bright spot. He needs to stay at Tampa and put log some innings and repeat his delivery. He has great stuff and they can’t rush him when he’s finally starting to put it all together.
Beckett seemed indifferent. At least when the camera caught him right after the episode.
Maybe the suspension weighed in. I don’t think it’s over.
It’s hardball. Just keep it below the shoulders.
It’s amazing thats all they talk about….Not to long ago Pedro and Soriano wen to the hospital in the first inning give me a break……….Clowns
Didn’t A-Rod have surgery on his right hip? If so, that’s going to be one awesome pitch to witness.
I just hope one day Joba will get one of these line drives straight to his forehead. Lets see if he would dare do that again or anybody else.
Billy, especially him.
Well Pete posted quotes from Cashman a few days (week?) ago that were pretty favorable towards Vazquez. Seems like Cash is intrigued by the light tower power, who knows how long it will take him to get a crack if he keeps launching balls in the minors. Age + experience in the Mexican League probably put him on a faster track, probably the way Aceves was on track last year (start in AA, move up to AAA and wait for an opening in the majors come August/September).
Someone should tell Farrell he’s just the pitching coach. He just likes to hear himself talk. I respect Tito much more so than him. How many times do you hear Farrell in ingame interviews?
Let’s get it on!
To quote Sean Connery, “If they put one of ours in the hospital, we’ll put one of theirs in the morgue.”
Why aren’t Jorge Vasquez, Juan Miranda, and John Rodriquez on our bench?
Christina,
By your logic, Pedro and Beckett would be dead from taking line drives to the head. Go away. Or not. Who cares?
Farrell is just throwing RSx fans some red meat.
I’ve been to four Yankee games at Fenway in the last four years. In three of them, either Jeter or ARod were HBP in the top of the first inning, resulting in a roar of approval from the crowd.
I also remember watching a Pedro game in which a Yankee hit a home run, and Pedro hit the very next batter. Remy’s analysis (get well soon, Jerry, seriously) was that the Yankees should know better than to hit home runs off of Pedro, because OF COURSE he will throw the next guy, and that’s just what one should expect.
So all of the Joba whining is ridiculous. That said, head (or wrist or knee) hunting battles are a horrible idea.
At least Joba hit Bay in the back, where you’re supposed to hit someone when you’re sending a message. Much better than the way Pedro and other Sox have used Jeter’s wrists as target practice for the past 10 years.
Eduardo Nunez keep an eye on him, he’s raised his avg to .297 and is hitting .333 in his last 10 games while raising the OBP % for the season to .323
(it’s baby steps w/ him but he’s starting to adjust)
Pete, thanks for this article this morning. I wrote something off of it. I also found this…
http://soxblog.projo.com/2009/.....chers.html
The Red Sox blogger broke down how many times the Red Sox pitchers have hit Yankee batters and vice versa since 2004 to 2009. He found that the Red Sox hit the Yankees at much more of a torrid clip during this time and he broke it down by season.
The Red Sox have hit the Yankees much more than the Yankees hitting the Red Sox. This year the trend is reversed and the Red Sox pitching coach is all of a sudden crying about it. It seems that the Red Sox can dish it but they can’t take it when the shoe is on the other foot. Typical
“Why aren’t Jorge Vasquez, Juan Miranda, and John Rodriquez on our bench?”
Too much the same plus our bench does need flexibility. John is actually a hot bat right now, Vasquez is off the DH variety although they making him play a bit of corner. Miranda has a block Teixeira and he ain’t moving anytime soon, if Teix ever gets DL’d he becomes his stand in. Right now I’m hoping Kevin Russo steps it up he’ll be a nice versatile weapon to have up here in the future bench role.
Manny Ramirez suspended for PED’s…hmmm interesting
Just thought you guys would want something to hear and smile about, pete check it out you remember this at the stadium.
Paul Simon – Mrs. Robinson at the old ballpark
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRlRlS7uZDw
manny suspended 50 games for PEDs
Who cares what the Red Sox think. They have a very short memory in regards to guys getting plunked. If Yankee pitchers hit 2 Red Sox in every game for the rest of the games between the two teams, the Yanks still couldnt catch up. They are whiners, Lowell whines about the strike zone every game, Pedroia is all over ESPN saying nobody thought he would be good, and Becketts a whiner too.
Who cares, bigger problem is how does Girardi get his team to play to their potential? How does the manager get his players to respond? Despite all the injuries and there are a lot, there is still enough there for them to be better than a 500 team. Rosters with much less pitching, hitting and experience are playing better ball.
Manny Manny Manny
Brandon,
Malec is another middle inf prospect that can handle the bat. Saw him last year at Trenton and was very impressed with his ability to put it in play. Not sure he will get a chance but he can hit. He hit a hr for SWB this morning and is on fire.
Manny suspended 50 games for PEDs. Wow!
“Why aren’t Jorge Vasquez, Juan Miranda, and John Rodriquez on our bench?”
Because the 40 man roster has become a disaster.
Manny! Guess those two world series championships the Sux won no longer count.
2004 WAS FAKE!
too bad it wont be a big deal because its just Manny being Manny. and AROD is the worst thing ever
What did Manny get busted for? Drinking Red Bull?
LOL. Did Ortiz send some Dominican protein shake powder?
Where are you guys hearing this?
http://www.latimes.com/sports/.....4894.story
WOW Manny out 50 games holy moleeeee
jeet, i think this may put an end to the manny being manny actually. god willing.
This is great news for A Rod actually.
Thank god we didn’t sign that guy.
“I think there will be some retaliation and do you want to trust Beckett’s wisdom and sense of fair play to hit someone in the back or does he go for someone’s head and then someone is at risk for being seriously injured.”
If that happens you’d better hope that the Sox don’t face Joba again this season.
It is no surprise to me that they are crying like a bunch of girls about getting hit. All of those of Derek getting drilled in the rest. What did he do? He acted like a man.
Bay gets hit once and he’s whining about it. Not only that, but he doesn’t have the stones to stand up on his own and fight his own battles, he uses Farel.
Also, he wasn’t trying to hit him. As it’s been pointed out, he struggled with his control that night a little bit.
Also, they’re lucky that they didn’t get drilled on Monday night too. Trying to cheat and steal signs is one of the lowest forms of humanity in my book. You should play this game with some honor between the lines.
Thanks, SA.
Must be Alex’s fault.
I don’t mind guys pitcing inside to re-claim the inner part of the plate. Throwing at somebody because he took you deep is bush IMO.
” randy l.
them :how about that sweep?
me: 40% of yankee key players are out
them :joba chamberlain got hammered
me: he had more k’s in 5 innings than anyone in the past 20 years..
them : how’s his crackhead mother doing?
me : about as good as pedroia’s brother.
them : joba is a head hunter
me: he hit him in the back
them: jason bay is the greatest thing ever
me: the better he does, the more it’s going to cost the red sox
them: he’ll sign cheap like youk and pedroia
me: damonm, matsui, and nady peels off next year. bay would look nice in left field for the yankees.
at that point they decided i wasn’t that much fun to talk to anymore”
Thanks for sticking up for the Yanks, but…
Who would choose to come to the Yankees after playing with the Sox, at this point in time?
Boston has the money, and Bay has said that he only wants a reasonable contract.
Since when do strikeouts for a pitcher erase 4 runs given in the first inning? Lol.
“My issue is that this incident is not over and done with as in mission accomplished.
I think there will be some retaliation and do you want to trust Beckett’s wisdom and sense of fair play to hit someone in the back or does he go for someone’s head and then someone is at risk for being seriously injured.”
ray( red sox fan)
here’s my answer to what i think about intimidation and how it works on a baseball field” :
a team that knows it can kick your butt physically will likely be able to beat you on the field.
you can’t let another team think that. once that is cleared up the two teams can just play baseball with mutual respect.
i’ll give an example. i went to a new semi pro team in the amherst (umass) area and this team had literally lost twenty something straight games to the powerhouse team in western mass . they even had a triple a pitcher ( snake riley) and were simply loaded with very good division one college players.
they as a team came into our sports bar after a game against another local team while we were in there after a practice. that was fine until the owner of the team announced to us that he’d bet twenty to one against all the cash we had in our pockets that his team would whip our butts in the next game against them. he was loaded and was assuming we were all broke college students.
i had a 500 dollar cashiers check in my wallet from delivering an order earlier in the day. i flipped it on the bar and said you’re on , knowing it was 10,000 dollars if he lost.
he stammered and said it wasn’t cash, but i wouldn’t let him off the hook and told him to put up or shut up.
that was when his big first baseman hit me in the head with an overhead right. my next move was tackling him and driving him backwards right along the top of three tables put together for a birthday party that was going on. we slid right through to the end of them with me on top of him and the only thing that stopped me from nailing him was my teammates grabbed me and stopped me so we could get out of there.
everyone left in a hurry, but with the belief the bet was still on. right before the game that came up in a few days,the owner comes up to me and says the league found out and the cash bet was off . so twenty cases of beer was substituted.
we had dug up a 16 year old phenom for the game that they had never seen. they pitched their best pitcher. it was 1-0 with them up in bottom of the ninth when we got a runner on third with one out and our owner, manager, and dh stepped up to bat. i called time out walked up to him in the on deck circle and told him to pinch hit for himself with a really good little bunter we had and do a suicide squeeze.
after some arguing( he liked to hit) we all agreed on third pitch no matter what suicide squeeze. on an 0-2 count they back off and the hitter laid down the prettiest bunt ever and the tying run scored with the pitcher throwing wild to first and the bunter going to second. he scored on the next pitch as our catcher knocked a single up the middle as we exploded in a victory pile at home plate.
it was the best game i ever played in . the opposing owner went and got the beer, came back shook all our hands and left after trying to recruit half our team for his team. most of my team thought i had just won $10,000 but they were happy with beer instead.
from that point we played that team at a .500 rate with no more fisticuffs and just good baseball.
i’ll admit that was a little overboard ( i never did get to apologize to the birthday person) , but the point is you can’t let yourself be pushed around on a baseball field.
ever since varitek got in arod’s face the red sox have thought they can kick the yankee’s butt physically. you just can’t have that.
joba did the right thing. the red sox can and should drill someone in the same way. that yankee hitter should go to first and say nothing like bay did
then they can just play baseball.
bottom line:
you can’t let another team think they can kick your butt physically.
What an idiot that he is still using. I wonder if it was HGH or roids?
“Ramirez is expected to attribute the test results to medication received from a doctor for a personal medical issue, according to a source familiar with matter but not authorized to speak publicly.”
Yea hopefully..i just heard it on ESPN’s FIrst take.
You would think it would take away from AROD, but who knows. Selena prob isnt to happy with this news either…taking away from possible book sales
ESPN News reporting Manny Ramirez tested positive for PED’s. Suspended 50 games. Don’t have a link because I got a text message on my phone.
The best way to handle the problem of Jason Bay, Big Mouth Farrell, and the rest of the Red Sox is to win the frikkin’ game, not hit anyone. IMO, hitting the other side when you are playing like chumps in their park – and in your home park – is just weak.
Pitch inside, sure. Make them move their feet, no problem. But if you always find another way to lose, don’t blame Jason Bay, look in the mirror. When did Jason Bay become Babe Ruth anyway? Bay ain’t the problem. The tired, old, unathletic, injury prone, no energy, no bullpen, no hitting with RISP Yankees are the problem.
I guess we found the topic of Selena Roberts next book.
http://www.latimes.com/sports/.....4894.story
Later Manny!
Jeff in NJ,
I thought the exact same thing. In a lot of ways, Manny’s more of a surprise than Alex because Manny “acts” like he doesn’t care about the game.
It’ll be interesting to see what he says. He’s the first active superstar to test positive.
And what will Torre do? What will Torre say?
Oh baby, make my day. Manny testing positive for PEDs?
Cant wait to hear from Bosuck fans……HAHAH
I checked out the River Ave Blues blog yesterday.
There was a real interesting thread concerning the movement to keep the Gate 2 structure from the old Stadium intact as part of the new park. It’s a terrific idea. I hope it gets done but I’m not hopeful as the Yankee heirarchy has to get involved.
The game thread was somewhat better behaved although there is profanity. The posts are generally shorter but you are able to respond directly to a post which is helpful.
anyway, that’s my review of RAB.
Too bad Joba wasn’t around when Jeter and Soriano got drilled in the same game.
Selena Roberts: Arod may have given the PED’s to Manny ramirez
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/.....id=4148907
“Joba’s antics on the mound sure didn’t help.”—-Aaron
Hey Aaron…. grow a pair!
This is BASEBALL…. not SOFTBALL
“Speaking specifically about last night, he strikes out 12 guys, doesn’t seem to have too many command issues, and if there was a purpose or intent to throw up and in you can disguise it a little bit more than making it very obvious with the first pitch in the middle of the back to Jason Bay. Those things aren’t forgotten. We know there is a history there between the pitcher in New York and our guys here and not to say that he was specifically out to do that but I think history speaks for itself and we’ve got a number of games left with these guys.”
Well, speaking specifically about history, Farrell should look at Boston’s better pitchers have done to NY hitters when they’ve supposedly had “good command” over the last decade. How many guys did Pedro send to the hospital?
Which pitcher drilled A-Rod up and in at Fenway a year or so ago to the delight of a cheering crowd of 35,000 a-holes? Oh wait, that was OK because it was a response to Joba actually NOT hitting their batter?
How often has Matsuzaka been instructed by teammates to drill A-Rod? That only got recorded on tape just the one time, and that was when he first came to Boston, so it only hapepned once. So that’s OK.
Those things don’t necessarily have to be forgotten either, ya know …
Suck it Boston.
Joba showed some positive signs but 12 strike outs only has true meaning when you win. Bringing an edge to playing the Sox’s is good – it’s become to much of a love fest with the players. Thank God it hasn’t with the fans – an excellent fan fight the other night.
There are no more sacred cows in baseball, just cattle.
“Brandon,
Malec is another middle inf prospect that can handle the bat. Saw him last year at Trenton and was very impressed with his ability to put it in play. Not sure he will get a chance but he can hit. He hit a hr for SWB this morning and is on fire.”
I’m not sure about him yet.
In other news I’m not surprised about Manny and you will be shocked who else is on that list.
And to think some of you actually wanted manny in pinstripes. This would be a PR apocolypse for the yankees having two steriod users on one team. YIKES!
Anyone surprised by Manny’s positive test should be shot..
CANNOT WAIT FOR VARITEK AND ORTIZ TO BE EXPOSED!!!!!!!
Wow!
Ramirez out 50 games.
Doesn’t that mean he was caught before. I can’t remember the specifics of the rule regarding testings/suspensions.
It’s clear the Sox will retaliate.
Solution?
Plunk Pedroia in the first inning and get warned.
That will set the tone for the series and any other pitcher who hits someone will get tossed and suspended.
they’re gonna get you next Ortiz!!! Long live Derek Jeter
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRlRlS7uZDw
check it out guys
Paul Simon at Yankees Stadium singing where have you gone Joe Dimaggio
Not saying Malec is even part of the equation but he hit last year at Trenton and his hitting again for both Trenton and SWB. Just another guy to follow while looking at another disspointing downward spiral for Eric Duncan.
I say if the team is still at 500 by Memorial Day cut Girardi loose and end it. Cashman is no prize either, but the roster is still stronger than its played for the second year in a row. Last year the team under achieved and this year its doing the same thing. The guy in charge takes the hit in baseball, thats the way it works. By the way, Pavano beat the Red Sox last night. Every player we get from the outside in trade or FA either comes here and forgets how to hit or pitch. Its the manager
Why is anyone surprise about Manny? Jose Canseco did say that he suspects many is a PED user.
It got ignored in the media. And I don’t like Canseco but he’s yet to be wrong.
2004*
2007*
this manny news makes the loss last night feel slightly better. eases the pain just a bit.
Oh I cant wait until Posada gets exposed about his drug use too. And Joba as well!IMO
“It’s clear the Sox will retaliate.
Solution?
Plunk Pedroia in the first inning and get warned.”
boston dave-
that would work. it’s a dumb rule, but that’s just what would happen.
you live in boston. you know how macho the red sox team and it’s fans are.
the reason they hate joba is he will not lay down to them and he’s good.
varitek set a tone when he got in arod’s face that the yankees really haven’t answered until joba has taken it in his own hands.
there doesn’t have to be any brawls. there will be some hit batters, but if it’s done in the right way no biggie.
Cry me a river. The sound you just heard was me not caring. As far as I’m concerned, I wish Joba had knocked Ellsbury on his rear for that stealing home stunt in Boston.
But the next game between the teams is in Boston, which means they will have a shot at Jeter or Damon first.
What the hell? Did Joba hit Bay in the head? Because if not, can someone put up the numbers of the number of times a Boston pitcher has hit a New York player in recent years? I’m sick of these crybabies holding a press conference everytime something they do all the time doesn’t go their way.
“that would work. it’s a dumb rule, but that’s just what would happen.”
————
It is dumb but what else can you do?
The way MLB works these days you have to strike first.
Farrell can say whatever he wants but he all but promised they’d retaliate.
It’s up to the Yankees to decide if they want to play this ‘game’.
LOL @ Yankee fans. Suiddenly stealing home is a “stunt”. The Sox own you guys. Stop with the whining and excuses.
“Girardi yelled out, “You’re going to get somebody hurt,” to Bogar, indicating that the Yankees would drill a hitter. ”
http://yankees.lhblogs.com/200.....ling-over/
tit for tat…
time to move on
Note to MLB and Boston Red Sox– Over the last decade, Boston has hit more Yankee batters than has any other team. Also, these hit batsmen came from a pitching staff that generally had very good control. The Sox ratio of hit batsmen to walks has in recent years been very high.
This is more pure hypocrisy from Hub Hypocrisy Central. Remember these are the same people who try to get every available free agent but then suddenly want a salary cap when they miss out on a couple. That organization and its pretentious hypocritical management really deserves the worst.
“Stop with the whining and excuses.”
meanwhile, this comment is in a story about the red sox whining…
Hang on a second. The report does NOT say it was steroids. It said it was a medication banned under their policy.
Don’t assume it is steroids yet.
IMHO, I think the game and the sports industry needs to look at HGH as being perhaps an advancement in medicine if it is being used to heal injuries quicker. Of course, anything can be abused in larger doses, so regulation is needed. But if it is HGH that Manny is accused of, I personally would categorize as I would have with Andy Pettitte: trying to come back from an injury quicker.
Manny DID say he passed 15 drug tests. Let’s see how it plays out.
“I wish Joba had knocked Ellsbury on his rear for that stealing home stunt in Boston” Stunt I’ve been a Yankee fan for my whole life. Long enough that when I was a kid my mother bought me a Yankee hat and I refused to wear it because it was actually a Giant hat (and not football). He stole home that’s part of the game. Pettitte and Posada screwed up.
Now don’t ever make me stick up for the red sox again!
I don’t understand these guys. They’ve beat us 5 straight. Farrell should shut his pie hole.
The saddest thing about all of this is that the Yankees are letting this bunch of crybabies make them look like fools. The Red Sox have beaten the Yankees in just about every possible way this year. They own us and they can say whatever they want until the Yankees figure out a way to beat them. These comments would be laughable if it weren’t for the fact that the Yankees have let Boston beat up on them.
1) well well now…manny out for 50 games…lets see what saint joe does now with his best hitter out until july AND his team having to start playing real competition soon….2 down 101 more to go to finish that list…(by the way AROD NEVER failed a test nor has been suspended – so at least he has that going for him)
2) the next game the yankees play boston whomever is on the mound should hit ellsbury right in the ribs first pitch first inning (unless boston does that to us of course)so that the boston pitcher that retaliates gets thrown out…its about time the yankees grow some cojones and not be the gentlemen that they were under torre the last 6 years he was here..
joba and aj will be our enforcers and i’m just fine with that…
What else is new? On the other hand I think its good for the rivalry. We need that spark. The rivalry has been gettting boring lately
This is the height of hipocracy. Pedro was drillin us on a regular basis for many years, and the 1st Yankee to do, they complain. I don’t wanna hear.
They need to man up and not cry.
They shoud be asamed for complaining.
“Pettitte and Posada screwed up.”
Posada if I remember correctly warned Pettitte about Ellsbury.
red sox=hypocrites
“LOL @ Yankee fans. Suiddenly stealing home is a “stunt”. The Sox own you guys. Stop with the whining and excuses.”
so these are the types of conversations that happen on the short bus….
“The drug Manny used is a female fertility drug used by steroid users to get their testosterone levels back up after coming off steriods.”
Just heard this on the Colin Cowherd radio show.
Unreal, so what Joba isn’t allowed to have an accident because he has done it before. Everytime he hits someone on the red sox for the rest of his career people are going to be saying this…pretty ridiculous.
Red Sox Nation will do anything to put down the Yankees, I honestly think the majority of red sox fans would prefer bad things for the yankees over good things for their own team.
Wait….all the past years when Pedro used other guys as pin cushions for his fastballs, are you telling me that they were all accidents?? I think the Yankees FINALLY have some pitchers who aren’t going to pussy-foot through a game. The Red Sox need to be repaid for what Pedro did. The Yankees need to start acting like they have a chip on their shoulder because the past “good guy” team isn’t cutting it. Opposing players are dgging in more and more and need to dust off their uniform once in a while.
Best wishes to Jerry Remy as he battles significant issues.
Get Well!