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He Huffed and he puffed and …

Posted by: Peter Abraham - Posted in Misc on May 10, 2009 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Joba Chamberlain said he didn’t see Aubrey Huff celebrate his first-inning home run. But he didn’t have a problem with it.

“Good for him,” he said. “He’s paid to hit home runs.”

Here’s what Huff had to say:

“He’s done it a couple of times to me when he’s struck me out. For me, it’s just in good fun. I always told the guys that if I get him, I’m going to give him a nice fist pump. For me, it wasn’t really showing anybody up. I was just trying to have some fun with it. He does it all the time and I figured you know what, why not?”

Is he worried about retribution?

“Why would he hit me? If he’s going to do that all the time, he’s got to understand that guys are going to be gunning for him you would think. If you want to do that stuff, you got to expect the hitters to get you, too.”

I’m sure some people will get all worked up about. But to me it’s not a big deal. If Joba wants to pump his fist, than he can’t be offended if somebody else does. I think baseball could use more emotion and guys enjoying their success instead of the staid “don’t show anybody up” code.

I’ve never understood why it’s OK for players in the NBA and NFL to celebrate but it’s not OK in baseball.

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227 Responses to “He Huffed and he puffed and …”

  1. Fire all the umps May 10th, 2009 at 5:45 pm

    I’ve never understood why it’s okay for players on every other team in baseball to do it, but not the Yankees.

  2. Boston Dave (in Berkeley, CA) May 10th, 2009 at 5:49 pm

    “I’ve never understood why it’s OK for players in the NBA and NFL to celebrate but it’s not OK in baseball.”

    ——

    so true.

    there’s a right way to celebrate – Joba doesn’t stare anybody down or taunt guys. He just turns his back and cheers.

    and there’s a wrong way to celebrate – Huff staring right at Joba when he did it trying to send a message.

  3. gayle May 10th, 2009 at 5:50 pm

    The ONLY problem I have with Huff is that he did it twice rounding first and then when he crossed the home plate. One time yeah it was in good fun two times then he went in for the kill.

    But I guess when you finish in last place every year you have to take what you can get when you can get it.

  4. tim boat May 10th, 2009 at 5:51 pm

    it’s also okay to do steroids in the NFL but do ‘roids in the MLB and you get crucified. the double standards never cease to amaze me.

  5. marcus May 10th, 2009 at 5:52 pm

    If Joba is ok with it……

  6. All sorts of riffraff May 10th, 2009 at 5:53 pm

    what Pete said.

  7. DJ May 10th, 2009 at 5:53 pm

    Joba is the man. He just continues to prove how far he has come as a starter. I hope he continues to improve because once his command gets better the sky will be the limit for this guy.

  8. Vin May 10th, 2009 at 5:54 pm

    Huff was a little bit over the line. Generally joba looks at the crowd or up when he fist pumps and screams but huff did it 3 times and even looked at joba when he did it as he rounded first base. That was not emotion and seemed pre meditated.

  9. Umz May 10th, 2009 at 5:54 pm

    who cares. great home run but your team lost. Same as 12 strikeouts not meaning anything in a loss. The guys who win will always feel better.

  10. Lara08 May 10th, 2009 at 5:55 pm

    “I’ve never understood why it’s OK for players in the NBA and NFL to celebrate but it’s not OK in baseball.”

    Because baseball prides itself on its 395,475,365 unwritten rules. :)

  11. C May 10th, 2009 at 5:55 pm

    The fist pump from Joba is from emotion but the one from huff is just trying to show Joba up

  12. Judge Mills Lane May 10th, 2009 at 5:56 pm

    I’ll allow it!

  13. C May 10th, 2009 at 5:58 pm

    When K-Rod and papelbum does more than just a fist pump no one says anything

  14. Noreaster May 10th, 2009 at 5:58 pm

    Sure it’s premeditated, but it’s all good. They wouldn’t mock/imitate Joba if he wasn’t a talent. I bet Joba even thinks it’s funny…but at least we won one.

    BTW, when is Cash going to fix the pen. Hanging on for Bruney is not going to cut it. We need some professional arms out there.

  15. Paul V May 10th, 2009 at 5:59 pm

    I just wish we could do more than hit home runs. When are we going to start playing small ball, as well.

  16. K May 10th, 2009 at 6:00 pm

    Huff proved that he is a tool.

    Sadly I caught the game on MASN (my satellite feed picks up the home team’s sports cast) and the Orioles announcers are really bad – they can’t call a game, show the crowd when the game is in play and actually think the O’s have a good team.

    I am very happy the Yankees won today, coming here on Tuesday after a come from behind win gives them a boost.

  17. m May 10th, 2009 at 6:01 pm

    For whatever reason, it’s acceptable for the pitchers to celebrate, but not the hitters. That’s just the way it is. Maybe because the pitchers can inflict hurt.

    BTW, Huff is full of it. Just having some fun in one sentence and then saying something else in the next?

    The funny part is the Yankees won.

    Not advocating celebration, but I’d love to see more verbal cheering from the dugout. You know. Just like little league.

  18. Harley May 10th, 2009 at 6:01 pm

    “I’ve never understood why it’s OK for players in the NBA and NFL to celebrate but it’s not OK in baseball.”

    Wow. That’s a pretty stunning comment coming from a baseball writer. But maybe it’s a generational thing (Nintendo Generation, that is). Baseball has always been a sport that took these things seriously, a sense of history, and, understand it or not, a sense of class. Let football players act like WWW wrestlers after making the hits they’re paid to make. Let basketball players pound their chests like clowns for doing something someone else will do twenty-five times during a game. Part of baseball’s enduring legacy is the dignity with which so much of the game is played. That doesn’t mean there’s no place for emotion on the field.

    But clowntime? Leave that to the other sports. And the sportswriters, it appears, who were raised on it.

    Feh.

  19. YankeeVIP May 10th, 2009 at 6:02 pm

    This whole fist pumping this is the stupidest discussion ever. I’m glad joba does it and I’m glad guys show some passions. Cc was pumped after his game the other day. Lester did it against the yanks in Boston, heck even jeter pumps his fist after a win. Guys are jealous of jobs and need something to complain about.

    Let the kid have fun. As a fan if I can get excited and scream when joba strikes out 12 then he sure as heck can be happy on he mound.

    I’m sure there are guys on every team that that do the same thing, give it a rest. It’s no like he does it after every strikeout.

    Last thing. If this was an issue, jeter would have told him to stop. Plain and simple. He knows how the game is played and as the capt. He would end it if it was an issue.

  20. Wilson May 10th, 2009 at 6:04 pm

    Huff is 100% right

    Remember when the Cardinals chanted “Jose Jose Jose” in the clubhouse after eliminating the Mets in 2006?

    This type of stuff happens all the time. You want to show emotion, expect others to do it back to you. And most times, it may not be malicious, just in good fun.

  21. dave May 10th, 2009 at 6:04 pm

    i dunno if this is a repeat but mike kay’s interview with girardi has some quality email questions. Joe is totally avoiding them but whoever is sending in these emails is doing a great job. That “we want torre” chant was such BS. Last year, girardi had a worse yankee team than torre ever had in his whole career with the yanks. This season, we are only a month in and lets see who has been on the dl: Arod, Posada, Wang, Nady, Bruney, Marte, Molina… Did I miss anyone?

    Does anyone really think we would be any better off this season with torre around this year despite what the dodgers record is. Lets just see how they do without manny for 50 games. Is it joe’s fault the pen has sucked? I kind of doubt that. One, I dont think we are making the best roster moves and two, we lost our best reliever in bruney for a whiiile and mo has been very shakey to start the year. How exactly would torre have changed either one of those.

    iTS easy to say Joe has sucked so far because we didnt make the playoffs last year and we started this year very slow but lets not forget that pavano, a 21 year old hughes and kennedy were all in the starting rotation starting 2008. And we lost both hughes and kennedy if that wasnt bad enough. And this year, we have by far the most injuries in baseball up to this point. So Im thinking its the medical staff or the age of the team or both if anyone is to blame. But thas just me.

  22. raymagnetic May 10th, 2009 at 6:05 pm

    Joba’s going to make Huff look silly much more often than Huff makes Joba look silly so it’s okay.

  23. teddy May 10th, 2009 at 6:07 pm

    hey pete i agree no big deal with huff, i think we should start the the official joba rules we must follow, is like a code of conduct

    1. joba a starter and will always be one

    2. joba doing fist pump down by 1 run in the 5th, is joba being joba

    3. if a hitters hits a hr off joba, joba hits him joba being joba

    4. joba being being joba means he can no wrong, is joba being joba

    more joba rules will come when i think of them

  24. Trev Sav May 10th, 2009 at 6:08 pm

    I think what turns people off about it is that Joba is still a 23 yr old kid who has maybe a year of cumulative service time in the big leagues. He is still finding his way and trying to develop. They don’t like the fact that someone as young and unproven as him does it.

    When CC does it, nobody cares because he is an established vet. Papelbon and K-Rod are closers… closers can do what they want, they get the most difficult outs in the game.

    Nothing wrong with Joba doing it, but he should expect the reaction to be negative.

  25. CaptiansCorner May 10th, 2009 at 6:09 pm

    Who cares what Huff does or thinks. As Cervelli said he did it in the 1st inning thats fine..but we won the game. What Joba does is nothing compared to K-Rod and Papelbum. They jump up and down with the fist pump. Do the last place O’s have a problem with them or is this once again a Yankees thing?!

  26. Jason May 10th, 2009 at 6:11 pm

    There’s a difference between celebrating and showing a player up. And then there’s also excessive celebration (i’m talking to you, Franky Rodriguez).

    In my mind, Huff was showing up Joba. I’m sure the O’s are frustrated with losing so darn much the past decade, so there’s definitely some pent-up frustration. If anyone looks bad here, it’s Aubrey and the O’s.

  27. dave May 10th, 2009 at 6:11 pm

    i COMPLETELY agree with you pete. Instead of having a problem with it, why dont more players just show emotion like joba does. To me, it shows the fans that he cares as much as we do. Do you think the fans are just sitting around at home or in the stadium getting pissed about players showing emotions? We want to see that. At least I do. All these radio talk show hosts and such are full of BS when they say its okay for lebron to do it but not for joba. i heard that from about five different hosts already and none of them offered any sort of adequate explanation for why they think that way.

    Baseball fans show a ton of emotion when their team is doing well so why shouldnt the players that we are rooting for? When I see joba, strike out 12 redsox in a game and leave with a huge first pump, I love it. When I hear CC let out a roar after a complete game shutout to stop a losing streak, im screaming right along with him. Why shouldnt they show emotions when their fans show so much? I would rather see joba or CC show how much they care, then, watch players on my team just walk off the field without any sense of happiness or pride for what they are doing.

  28. mmxall May 10th, 2009 at 6:11 pm

    NFL/NBA usually don’t have a lot of kids watching the game.

    Baseball is a family event. I think That’s why you don’t want players show too much (aggresive) emotion.

  29. Phil May 10th, 2009 at 6:12 pm

    Someone should have asked Huff how Johnny Damon should have celebrated when he hit his game winning homer.

  30. SJ44 May 10th, 2009 at 6:13 pm

    I have no problem with what Huff did.

    I also will have no problem when Joba drills him and, make no mistake, he will nail him at some point during the season.

    If Huff wants to then charge the mound, his option.

    But, after he gets hit with a 98 MPH fastball in the middle of the back, he will hope his ribs aren’t broken.

    If guys want to carry on against Joba, do it at their own peril.

    If there are two things this kid has shown so far in his young career its, he won’t back down from anybody and he isn’t afraid to drill people.

  31. Max May 10th, 2009 at 6:16 pm

    I’m sure NESPN won’t have a problem when Papelbon rolls the dice at the Rays if he gets the save tonight.

  32. Pat M May 10th, 2009 at 6:16 pm

    Coming back from behind, is the best form of in your face Mr. Huff….It’s all about W’s folks….Moving on to Toronto and taking another series is what it’s all about…This is proffesional baseball at the Major League level, it’s all about winning….Listen, just about every player in the AL hated K-Rod and all his theatrical bs when he survives his usual 9th inning scares, all the thumping and his poiting to theheavens, but the sob gets the saves….I remember A-Rod having issues with the little puke, but he does back it up…So screw the fist pumping rebuttals, as long as it’s not over the top showing a player up just move on

  33. dave May 10th, 2009 at 6:18 pm

    I didnt mind one bit when I saw huff do the fist pump. i KNEW he wasnt trying to be an @$$ or anything. And why would joba have any reason to throw at him? if joba does it and he gets mad at huff, he is being very hippocritical. OK, so maybe huff;s emotions were contrived to get a rise out of joba, MAYBE. But who really cares? The only reason it became an issue is because kay and singleton were talking about it like that was the primary focus of the entire game instead of winning the game and the series against probably the worst team in our division.

    The win was faar more important than huff or any sort of retribution. They play baseball to win and not to attack eachother for stupid petty things like a fist pump. iF JOBA had hit him with a pitch later in the game, I would have been pissed with joba. One, if he is going to do it, he has to expect stuff like that and two, he is putting his own selfish feelings before the team’s goal if he does that. But nothing came of it, as i expected and WE WON which is better than any other payback anyone can think of.

  34. SJ44 May 10th, 2009 at 6:19 pm

    Pat M,

    No doubt. Today was all about winning this game and winning this series.

    There will come a time for payback and Joba will get it done.

    Its all about priorities now. The priority now is, winning games.

    The other stuff will be done in time.

    That’s one thing I love about Joba. He pitches with a mean streak and it helps him more than hurts him on the mound.

  35. Michael T May 10th, 2009 at 6:20 pm

    What SJ said. That also explans the “mystery” of why pitchers can celebrate and hitters can’t. ‘Cuz hitters are free to try it, but they now how that will end…

  36. dave May 10th, 2009 at 6:22 pm

    mmxall,

    That is ridiculous. yES, KIDS do watch football and basketball. Baseball historically is considered more of a family sport but millions of kids watch the other sports every year so that argument makes zero sense. And even if it is about the kids, what is wrong with players showing kids that they care about winning and doing well? Is that such a horrible message that it should be censored. i THINK its a positive. These arent mindless robots on the diamond, these are people with real emotion. Whats wrong with showing a little? You make no sense.

  37. RIYank May 10th, 2009 at 6:28 pm

    Agree, dave — any given NFL game is going to be watched by more kids than a random MLB game, though the total audience for the MLB season is, of course, much bigger.

    Players who get all worked up over an opponent’s display of emotion — or even a deliberate taunt — are the ones who have to grow up a little. I can see a No Taunting rule in a high school game, but for cripes sake, if you’re a pro, then either go stop them (as Bill Belicheck says), or turn your head away and use it for motivation.

  38. Kevin S. May 10th, 2009 at 6:31 pm

    Pete, have you met one Roger Goodell? He’s actively working to stamp all traces of emotion out of the No Fun League, and his toadie Myles Brand is doing the same thing at the collegiate level. Anybody remember what happened to Jake Locker?

  39. Gloria May 10th, 2009 at 6:31 pm

    Huff was 100% right? Are you kidding me?? The attitude he portrayed definitely didn’t seem like he was joking and if they were making fun of Joba in the Oriole clubhouse then it was definitely premeditated and done for effect or to get on Sportscenter (or both).

    If anyone saw Joba’s postgame, they know exactly what he meant when he said (after he finished “complimenting” Huff) it won’t be the last time he faces Huff this year. Hah. Hint, hint. Smart man, that Joba.

  40. Seamus May 10th, 2009 at 6:34 pm

    “Part of baseball’s enduring legacy is the dignity with which so much of the game is played. That doesn’t mean there’s no place for emotion on the field.

    But clowntime? Leave that to the other sports. And the sportswriters, it appears, who were raised on it.”
    ——————————————-

    Professional baseball also, for more than half of its existence to this point, didn’t allow people of color to play in its leagues. Somehow I have a hard time following the argument that steroids and fist-pumping has undermined a game that’s been just so full of integrity over the years.

    There definitely is a double standard. Baseball historically has just had a different take on what constitutes “dignity”.

  41. Curious Fan May 10th, 2009 at 6:49 pm

    Wow. That’s a pretty stunning comment coming from a baseball writer. But maybe it’s a generational thing (Nintendo Generation, that is). Baseball has always been a sport that took these things seriously, a sense of history, and, understand it or not, a sense of class. Let football players act like WWW wrestlers after making the hits they’re paid to make. Let basketball players pound their chests like clowns for doing something someone else will do twenty-five times during a game. Part of baseball’s enduring legacy is the dignity with which so much of the game is played. That doesn’t mean there’s no place for emotion on the field.

    But clowntime? Leave that to the other sports. And the sportswriters, it appears, who were raised on it.
    _ _ _ _ _ _ _

    Are you serious? Sounds like SOME baseball fans need to get over themselves. Baseball is a sport, a form of entertainment just like football and basketball. It is not rocket science or brain surgery!

  42. DT May 10th, 2009 at 6:59 pm

    I hope this is part of Huff’s new emotional hitting strategy.

    He’ll be fist pumping after every hit, no matter what team he is facing.

    He’ll also be breaking Ron Hunt’s 50 HBP record.
    It comes with the territory in a DH league.

  43. Onkel Bob May 10th, 2009 at 7:00 pm

    re: emotions, I like the cold blooded killer expression/routine. Mo in his early career was untouchable and usually exemplified that behavior. I think that lack of emotion incites more fear in the opponent, the emotional response just gets them more angry. Which can also be effective – blinded by rage – comes to mind.

  44. Marko May 10th, 2009 at 7:05 pm

    Can we start a new entry for the Francisco Cervelli appreciation thread??? He’s been incredible!!

  45. Joe May 10th, 2009 at 7:09 pm

    Does the difference between the NFL/NBA and MLB really need to be explained? The, um, “cultural” differences are so glaring, the celebration differences between the sports should be easily explained and understood.

  46. Zack May 10th, 2009 at 7:24 pm

    I think it’s ridiculous for somebody in any sport to celebrate an individual play. Celebrate the win! I see players celebrate a play when their team is getting killed on the scoreboard and that’s just silly.

  47. PhilD May 10th, 2009 at 7:26 pm

    “I’ve never understood why it’s OK for players in the NBA and NFL to celebrate but it’s not OK in baseball.”
    ————————————————————–
    Well, to each his own but the narcissistic “look-at-me” antics that football and basketball players engage in is part of the reason I find those sports (and ESPN) unwatchable. In baseball, the idea is to act like you’ve done it before with some understandable exceptions for big moments in big games.

    I’ll take Whitey Ford’s button down demeanor and Mickey Mantle’s self-conscious, head-down home run trot (even when the homer won a World Series game in the bottom of the ninth) over any juvenile fist-pumping act (yes, even Joba’s). And it’s not really about a lack of emotion or style. Willie Mays and Roberto Clemente both knew how to play with exuberance and flair with out making asses of themselves or showing up their opponents.

    I’m not really down on Joba about this but he should take a page from Mariano Rivera’s book when it comes to his on field behavior.

  48. tim boat May 10th, 2009 at 7:26 pm

    I think it’s ridiculous for somebody in any sport to celebrate an individual play. Celebrate the win! I see players celebrate a play when their team is getting killed on the scoreboard and that’s just silly.

    i love those comments from people like you who’ve obviously never played sports.

  49. pat May 10th, 2009 at 7:29 pm

    This is one of those times that MLB and the media should just stay out of it and let the players negotiate their own solution.

  50. Les Deux May 10th, 2009 at 7:41 pm

    Then, not than Peter.

  51. Christina May 10th, 2009 at 7:43 pm

    You people are something else. you think its okay to fist pump when your team is losing but you think it was bad for Huff to show up Joba. Good for Huff. Joba needs to learn a lesson. You show up people they are going to do the same thing to you.

  52. cano he didnt May 10th, 2009 at 7:45 pm

    who cares celebrate or no celebrate. is there anyone who can think for themselves in baseball? seems there is as there are both players who celebrate and others that dont. who cares, go censor elsewhere as long as it isnt intentionally hurting someone…

  53. cano he didnt May 10th, 2009 at 7:49 pm

    another thing, when did joba fist pump when the yankees were getting killed by the opposing team? everytime ive seen him it was getting a huge K in a big situation where more runs could have been given up or after a big battle to end an inning. its always in a situation the yankees can still come back and win or already are winning.

  54. Rose May 10th, 2009 at 7:50 pm

    Let’s have fist pumps after every home run and strike out, especially when your losing. Great idea. Games then will be 5 hours long.

    CC showed emotion after his complete game shut out, which is fine.

    I don’t get the twirl and fist pumps after giving up 4 runs in the first inning and putting your team in the hole. And Joba only went 5.1 innings. I don’t care how many he struck out, his team lost. When he pitches a game like CC did,then do it.

  55. Kevin May 10th, 2009 at 7:51 pm

    Next time the Yanks play the O’s at home, when they’re up by like 8 runs one game, Huff should get drilled end of story

  56. Les Deux May 10th, 2009 at 7:52 pm

    When players hit homeruns, they seldomly even look at the pitcher, they just run the bases with their heads down until they get to home.

    Aubrey Huff looked directly at Joba, pumped his fist and shouted at him, all at 1st base. Then, he did it again!

    Joba does it out of emotion, it is not premeditated. Joba can expect it back, but that was excessive and classless.

  57. BK May 10th, 2009 at 8:00 pm

    ummmmmmm…. can you guys remember baseball is a game? Fist pumps, and emotions should be a huge part. I love watching baseball when everyone is into the game and having fun. Let this go, Huff’s fist pump is all in good fun. Joba knows this, stop being overly critical of things

  58. Christina May 10th, 2009 at 8:03 pm

    I like it when some people here trying to figure out why Joba is doing. Do you know Joba personally? Do you know what he thinks or how he feels? I dont think so.

  59. Rose May 10th, 2009 at 8:03 pm

    Huff said why he did it.

    If Joba played for the Red Sox and did it to the Yankees, people here would have a fit.

  60. raymond May 10th, 2009 at 8:04 pm

    what i dont get is that joba is doing it because that just who he is and he has that emotion but huff just did because he wanted to show joba up so to me i think its wrong when it happens like that

  61. Anthony May 10th, 2009 at 8:29 pm

    There’s no way Chamberlain should get mad at anyone for making fun of him, he does it to himself by pumping his fist when he’s losing.

  62. GM May 10th, 2009 at 8:35 pm

    If Joba was on any other team (say, the Red Sox), you’d never hear or see anything about this. Speaking of, for those of you who have not had the pleasure to tour the ESPN offices in Bristol, there is Red Sox stuff all over the place.

  63. Ogie Oglethorpe May 10th, 2009 at 8:38 pm

    In the post-game on YES, Joba said in regard to Huff, “I’m sure it won’t be the last time I face him.”

    He’s gonna drill him.

  64. BBB May 10th, 2009 at 8:46 pm

    I can’t believe this is such a big issue. Joba doesn’t care, he’ll take care of it when the time comes, so no sense sweating it until then…so why does anyone else care?

    However, I bet that when Joba does take care of it to his satisfaction, Aubrey Huff will be crying afterward. Just a hunch I have.

    And I do agree that there’s a big difference between geniune emotion and premeditated attempts to show someone up, and what Huff did seemed more like the latter. But again, who really cares? He’s Aubrey Huff, he has nothing better to do, and Joba will TCB. That’s how he rolls. Until then, he’s probably forgot about it already, but good to know Aubrey Huff spends so much time thinking of him. (“I told the guys that if I ever got him…” LOL! How much time do you think Joba and the guys spend talking about Huff in the clubhouse? My guess is not too much!)

  65. BBB May 10th, 2009 at 8:51 pm

    Also, I think there is room for both, the ‘walk off the mound calmly’ approach and the ‘fiery fist pump’ one. The game needs both types of players and I don’t want to choose between the 2 any more than I want to choose between my Bob Dylan CD’s and my Iron Maiden CD’s. :)

    But I love Joba’s mound demeanor and sometimes I think Hughes could do with a little more of that same killer instinct. And I do believe it is something that can be taught. If Mike Mussina could learn to pitch inside and stop hitters from crowding the plate at age 39, then any pitcher can learn anything.

  66. 89 May 10th, 2009 at 9:42 pm

    I never understand why it is such a big deal that Joba does this…

    But Papelbon does it constantly..

    K-Rod and Valverde celebrate like they won the world series after each save.

    But there is no issue with these guys… I dont get it?

  67. Tim Sherman May 10th, 2009 at 9:58 pm

    Pete’s lack of understanding does not surprise me in the least. The fact that he doesn’t understand the difference between what Joba does and what Huff did speaks volumes. Baseball has always been a gentleman’s game. The shows of emotion are fine as long as they are not directed at anyone. Huff’s clearly crossed the line of gentlemanly behavior and that is the basis of the “unwritten code”.

  68. vb03 May 10th, 2009 at 10:53 pm

    “I’m sure it won’t be the last time I face him.”

    That’s all Joba needed to say. Huff will be thinking about that in the back of his mind the next time he digs in with Jobber on the mound.

    Joba has that killer mentality on the mound. He doesn’t break even after giving up runs, and he doesn’t give a rat’s behind what people think of him showing his emotions.

  69. Frankie D May 10th, 2009 at 10:54 pm

    The problem is that when Joba pumps his fist, he is genuinely in the ‘heat of the moment’, and it happens usually after a huge pressure-packed spot in the game.

    When Huff did his fist pumping, it was in the 1st freakin’ inning and it was totally contrived/pre-meditated. He also stared Joba down as he rounded first base, and to me, that is what you call taunting (something not allowed in the NFL by the way) To me, that is bush league.

  70. Golden May 11th, 2009 at 12:31 am

    The difference, as many people have already said above, is that Joba is celebrating while Huff was just looking to mock Joba and show him up, not once, but twice.

    Next time he faces a Yankees pitcher he should get one right square in the back between the numbers, in my opinion.

  71. Eric May 11th, 2009 at 12:52 am

    Papelbon fist pumps too. No one says anything about it. Just a thought.

  72. Brian in 702 May 11th, 2009 at 2:54 am

    Two words on handiling taunting.

    GEORGE TEAGUE!

    and that was in the NFL

  73. GZA May 11th, 2009 at 4:47 am

    “If Joba wants to pump his fist, than he can’t be offended if somebody else does.” Agree 100%.

    “I think baseball could use more emotion and guys enjoying their success instead of the staid ‘don’t show anybody up’ code.” Agree 50%? As long as the celebration is proportionate to the accomplishment, I guess I have no issue. A fist-pump after every strikeout would be excessive, though, not to mention tedious.

  74. Larry G May 11th, 2009 at 5:47 am

    Huff should have been plunked in his next at bat….PERIOD!

  75. Sumo Todd May 11th, 2009 at 7:56 am

    So we should feel the same way about a spontaneous expression of emotion as we do about a contrived, premeditated series of fist pumps intended to show up another player.

    Yeah, that makes sense.

  76. Harley May 11th, 2009 at 11:07 am

    Sumo’s got it exactly right. This wasn’t a spontaneous outburst of joy over an eventually meaningless home run. This was a premeditated act designed to show up a fellow player. Twice.

    It’s bush league clown behavior from a player who should know better. Here’s hoping there’s a bull’s eye on his back the next time they meet.

  77. Santiago May 11th, 2009 at 4:00 pm

    I find it hilarious that now that the Yankees blow all of their fans have a kind of “the world is against us, pity the poor Yanks” mentality when 5 years ago they were still thinking they were the best team on the planet and everyone was beneath them. Plenty of Yankees have always tried to show up the opposing team, Joba isn’t stupid. If he wants to put people on blast he has to expect them to do the same.

  78. sas May 11th, 2009 at 4:09 pm

    last week Joba pumped his fist after striking out Red Sox even though his team was losing. Lame

  79. jjdoozer May 11th, 2009 at 4:11 pm

    Joba’s comment about facing Huff again was brilliant. He won’t hit him untill the end of the season. Until then Huff will be wondering every time he is in the box against Joba. I Joba dusts him a few time Huff will be batting scared and Joba will own him!

  80. j stahl May 11th, 2009 at 4:12 pm

    Joba is a MUTT. What in the world has he really done in his career? Him on any other team would be an average at best pitcher so far in his career. Let him do something in baseball first before he is treated as a god.

  81. Royal May 11th, 2009 at 4:14 pm

    I thought it was great. The only thing better would have been to see the Yanks lose.

  82. Dave23 May 11th, 2009 at 4:16 pm

    While I am not a huge fan of some of the “over the top” fist pumps and celebrations (I am a Red Sox fan and Jon Papelbon is one of the worse offenders) I have no problem with anyone showing Chamberlain up, he is a PUNK! Anytime he has a problem with getting his inconsistant weak crap over the plate his only way to make up for it it to throw at someone, usually at or behind their head (See: Kevin Youkillis or Jason Bay). The yankees have on of if not THE CLASSIEST closers in the history of the game in Mariano Rivera, has anyone ever seen him throw at a batter because he is having one of his rare tough outings? As much as I like the designated hitter (I do not enjoy watching some pitcher hitting .075 for his career come to bat) I think that anytime a pitcher intentionally tries to hit a batter because he cant get him out any other way, he should be made to bat the next inning (not possible but what a wonderful thought). While I do not feel that pitchers do not throw inside near enough anymore (the Gods in charge of baseball have taken away the inside strike almost completely) there is NEVER an excuse to throw at a batters head, especially when its a 95+ mph fastball. Continue with the celebrations if you want, but don’t take offence when an opponent decides to celebrate, especially when you don’t have the class or guts to use your God given talent and play the game as it was ment to be played.

  83. jOHN May 11th, 2009 at 4:23 pm

    oes anyone really think we would be any better off this season with torre around this year despite what the dodgers record is

    YES…I DO. TORRE HAD PROBLEMS THROUGHOUT THE YEARS WITH INJURIES ETC. ALSO…YET HE WAS ALWAYS PLAYING IN OCTOBER.

  84. jOHN May 11th, 2009 at 4:24 pm

    I find it hilarious that now that the Yankees blow all of their fans have a kind of “the world is against us, pity the poor Yanks” mentality when 5 years ago they were still thinking they were the best team on the planet and everyone was beneath them. Plenty of Yankees have always tried to show up the opposing team, Joba isn’t stupid. If he wants to put people on blast he has to expect them to do the same.

    JOBA ISNT COMPLAINING. THE FANS AND THE MEDIA ARE…

  85. Erik May 11th, 2009 at 4:53 pm

    OK so if i have to ear another person saying its just joba being joba…im gonna puke. he has not earned the right to be put on this pedestal yet. what big game has he pitched in and won? none. How many wins does he have this year? 2 He has given up more hits than innings pitched and has hit 6 batters. He doesnt belong in the starting rotation. The yankees are gonna screw him up just like they did hughes by bringing him up to early. He needs to be learning the set-up role so he can take over for the aging rivera…. he can be the next best closer in the game…and it shows this year they need a closer more than anything. he does not deserve his own “rules” he has not paid his dues yet to be talked about as an elite pitcher cause we all know he is not. I am not saying he sucks…im saying he is going to be an average starter at that but could be a dominent closer. As he only has three pitches. facing him for one inning after seeing other stuff is devastating. look at what he did when he came up and pitched from the pen…..it speaks volumes…

    certain situations i like it….not when you just gave up 4 runs and your team is trying to come from behind…just pitch why are you excited about padding your own stats….your still losing.

  86. Scott May 11th, 2009 at 5:00 pm

    Maybe Huff was a little over the top , but Jobas done it to Huff a few times ! I do have a problem with Paplebaby doing it too ! Half of you said it yourself , We are in last place ! It’s like you stuck out the worst lineup in baseball ” Last year BTW ” let’s fist pump like we won the word series . The Orioles do need to start showing some emotion and getting into the game more. I just wish insted of the Joba fist pump he would have pointed at him like D. Eckersley use to do ! Would have love to see everyone reaction to that , but cause he did the joba pump and stared at him everyone’s crying about it. Pitchers staire batters down all the time after striking them out . So what if Huff did! Yanks fans wanna talk about us losing for a decade and being mad , well we are are. I guess they know how it feels since they payed for a title the last 9 years and haven’t won 1 ! Have fun battling the O’s for last place this year !

  87. Crizz May 11th, 2009 at 5:30 pm

    Fist pumps at the end of the game are one thing. Fist pumps to celebrate getting out of a self-induced jam in the third inning…

    Well that just seems kind of silly and inappropriate to me.

  88. A! May 11th, 2009 at 5:35 pm

    BUMB!

  89. kris May 11th, 2009 at 5:41 pm

    Awwww,the Yankees bullpen stinks? hmmmmm,join the rest of the teams,folks. Guess all that million $$$$$$ money cant fix everything on the team huh?

    Huff did go too far,one pump was enough. Grow up boys!

  90. Ken May 11th, 2009 at 5:55 pm

    The issue I have with Huff isn’t so much that he pumped his fist, (he has the right to celebrate any way he wants), I take more offense to his response after the game that he wasn’t mocking anyone. It seems fake. He wanted to stir the pot, then he wants to back down? Be a man and MAN UP!! You hit the HR, good for you, it’s one of the hardest things to do in sports, (or so I’ve heard), but don’t think for a second that people thought you were “caught up in the moment”. It was the FIRST INNING and Huff has never been so demonstrative in the past. (Had it been a ‘walk-off’, maybe he would be given some leeway.) He was (obviously) looking to show up Chamberlain, and if he chooses, he has the right to do that. (However, in doing so, he does forfeit his right to complain at a later date when it is done against him and / or his team.) But don’t hide behind the “I didn’t want to show him up” mantra that we frequently hear when it is obvious that showing him up was EXACTLY what he was looking to do. It reeks of insincerity…

  91. Chris May 11th, 2009 at 5:57 pm

    are you guys kidding me…you ignorant yankee fans…if its Ok for Joba to dish it out like he does everytime he does something good he better be able to take it like a man

  92. vince May 11th, 2009 at 6:05 pm

    who cares?

  93. lets go o's May 11th, 2009 at 6:42 pm

    if jobe can celebrate huff can do it too its ok to celebrate when you do something good and i am with aubrey on this one

  94. jay May 11th, 2009 at 6:45 pm

    Check your grammar before you publish, dude…

  95. Chris K May 11th, 2009 at 6:51 pm

    Aubrey(low road)Huff.

  96. Chris K May 11th, 2009 at 6:51 pm

    Aubrey(low road)Huff.

  97. V May 11th, 2009 at 6:52 pm

    Okay. To begin with, I will admit that my opinions are highly biased. But the facts are these:

    1) The Yankees are arrogant, and every other team dislikes them for this.
    2) Mark Texiera = even more bad blood.
    3) The O’s are sick of being in a division with the Yankees, as are all the other teams in that division.

    Everyone who is saying that Huff’s actions reflect on pent-up bad feelings, or some sort of sore loser mindset…you’ve clearly never been to Baltimore. Yeah, the O’s may not win as much as some teams, but they put in the effort. They have some decent players. And they have a damn good fan base. There may not be many of us, but we’ve got heart.

    I guess what I’m saying is that yeah, maybe it was a bit out of line. But it’s stil understandable. And it’s a game people. A freaking game. Calm the hell down, and grow the hell up.

  98. Nic Oliver May 11th, 2009 at 6:52 pm

    “I’ve never understood why it’s OK for players in the NBA and NFL to celebrate but it’s not OK in baseball.”
    ———-

    It’s because baseball players are more classy.

  99. Justin May 11th, 2009 at 6:55 pm

    Gayle,

    Are you serious???? Papelbon is 100 times worse than Jaba.. and have you ever seen K-rod pitch??? Ignorant people shouldn’t leave messages..

  100. Justin May 11th, 2009 at 6:56 pm

    Sorry Gayle…

    That was meant for Boston Dave… I bet he still thinks Manny never did roids while in Boston too… Ignorant pricks

  101. John Bojangles May 11th, 2009 at 7:18 pm

    Baseball players have too much class to celebrate like a bunch of idiots. Football and basketball players don’t respect their game as much as baseball players.

  102. Boston and Ny Cry 2 much May 11th, 2009 at 7:37 pm

    Maybe Huff was a little over the top , but Jobas done it to Huff a few times ! I do have a problem with Paplebaby doing it too ! Half of you said it yourself , We are in last place ! It’s like you stuck out the worst lineup in baseball ” Last year BTW ” let’s fist pump like we won the word series . The Orioles do need to start showing some emotion and getting into the game more. I just wish insted of the Joba fist pump he would have pointed at him like D. Eckersley use to do ! Would have love to see everyone reaction to that , but cause he did the joba pump and stared at him everyone’s crying about it. Pitchers staire batters down all the time after striking them out . So what if Huff did! Yanks fans wanna talk about us losing for a decade and being mad , well we are are. I guess they know how it feels since they payed for a title the last 9 years and haven’t won 1 ! Have fun battling the O’s for last place this year !

  103. who cares May 11th, 2009 at 8:05 pm

    who even cares if anyone got their feelings hurt? These guys both get paid millions they can deal with it, if Joba wants to fist pump then let him as long as he can back it up and same with Huff… i think anyone who takes this whole thing personally and starts bringing other teams and players into the argument just has way too much time on their hands

  104. Jeff May 11th, 2009 at 8:26 pm

    The problem is that Joba the idiot does it when he strikes a guy out in the first inning. The guy’s a buffoon. He will never be better than a #3 starter. He has a million dollar arm and a .10 c head.

  105. Alex May 11th, 2009 at 8:35 pm

    Kind of reminds of the Merriman and Patriots thing from a couple years ago. Chargers think it’s fine for Merriman to do his little “sack dance” but they were peeved when the Pats decided to mock it. So It’s OK to do something stupid as long as you do it first I guess.

  106. L.A. May 11th, 2009 at 9:55 pm

    As the Yanks announcers said during that game, as long as Joba does that fist pump thing, he opens himself up to it. You make the motions, you expect someone to “mock” you. No harm, no foul. If you do it, expect some back at some point.

  107. WEB May 11th, 2009 at 10:12 pm

    i hate the yankees…go Orioles

  108. Grown Up May 12th, 2009 at 12:50 am

    Dave23, do you really think God had anything to do with these players? It’s more like a ‘personal trainer’ injecting HGH into them.
    Grow up kids, professional sports is now celebrity entertainment too. These overpaid, low IQ ‘talents’ are a joke, and always want to be the center of attention. If Chaimberlain drills Huff later this season, it’ll sell tickets down the road for another matchup, seats that are otherwise empty at the fabulous new Yankee Stadium.
    Getting hit by a 100MPH fastball isn’t what it used to be now since the ‘roids will heal them quicker.
    Enjoy the ‘show’ for what it is.

  109. Ty May 12th, 2009 at 7:51 am

    I can’t believe some of these comments:

    Joba DOES show people up, when he glares into the dugout after a K to end the inning.

    Seriously…he is a little b****, and should let this blow over.

  110. vb94934 May 12th, 2009 at 9:55 am

    Hmm let me get this striaght.. Its ok when Papalbum does that stupid ass stare down and then huffs and buffs like a Idiot,but if Joba(aYankee)does it,Oh my Lord ..hes showing up people,..I blame that retard Tim Mcarver.hes the most annyoing anti NY Yankee annnoucer out there but Fox always buts him on the yankee games.And by the way Joe Buck is just as bad.His father is Rolling in his Grave.

  111. joba the hutt May 12th, 2009 at 11:09 am

    Seriously, what are some of you NY people writing?

    “I’ve never understood why it’s okay for players on every other team in baseball to do it, but not the Yankees.”

    The Yanks get away with more than any other team I’ve seen. If Joba were a pitcher on any other team and threw at Youkilis as often as he does (or anyone who manages to get the better of him), he’d have been tossed a bunch of times.

    And calling McGarver anti-Yankee? What? I can’t stand to listen to Yanks games he calls because I’m waiting for him to ask if he can lick their bench because the players’ precious rear ends were all sitting on it.

    I’m an Os fan and I can’t stand Huff but I don’t understand why pitchers get to make ridiculous gestures after a strike out or at the end of the game and batters can’t even stand a bit too long when they hit a long ball.

    Just like the Blake-Wilson gesture story, if you’re going to use a trademark gesture and put yourself more into the spotlight, you’re going to get something back in your face sooner or later.

    Are any of the players involved offended? Well, cry me a river and toughen up.

  112. joeyd May 12th, 2009 at 12:03 pm

    Yankees fans are tools… it ok for Joba to do but not huff

  113. baseball junkie May 12th, 2009 at 2:26 pm

    All you yankee fans make me laugh. it’s only ok if your a yankee. lets count them.

    Clems when he was with boston was a head hunter.
    when he came to the yankee’s and threw a piazza’s head it
    was part of the game.
    Joba can fist pump and yell into his glove like a person with Tourettes. And remember he is only in his 2nd full season and yankee fans think that is ok.
    But the min a player from another team mocks him thats not cool. Tell Joba to go get some dope from his mother to calm his self down. This will avoid these issues.

  114. YOGI May 12th, 2009 at 3:05 pm

    In basketball it’s OK to celebrate because the other team can get you right back by getting a basket. Tennis- go ahead & fist pump too. It’s a level playing field. Baseball is different. Although it’s a team sport it’s personal once you step in the batters box. Pitchers are not going to be batting (much) and power hitters will never be found on the mound.

  115. rick May 12th, 2009 at 3:54 pm

    with all the instant news EVERYTHING needs to be scrutinized and debated – who really cares, especially if it’s about any ny team :)

  116. tawny May 12th, 2009 at 3:59 pm

    Are you serious Joba taunted Boston the entire time he wa in the game last week does he honestly think if e is going to dish that ind of crap he isn’t going to get some in return!!! KUDOS TO HUFF YOUR RESPONSE ROCKED!

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