Comments on: Wang to start Tuesday in Scranton http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2009/05/10/wang-to-start-tuesday-in-scranton/ A New York Yankees blog by Chad Jennings and the staff of The Journal News Fri, 10 Feb 2012 16:16:49 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Luigi http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2009/05/10/wang-to-start-tuesday-in-scranton/comment-page-2/#comment-784005 Luigi Mon, 11 May 2009 14:56:04 +0000 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/?p=11137#comment-784005 SJ44, you are probably my favortie poster on here, but you are way off base with this whole adversity thing SJ44,
you are probably my favortie poster on here, but you are way off base with this whole adversity thing

]]> By: Whatever http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2009/05/10/wang-to-start-tuesday-in-scranton/comment-page-2/#comment-783945 Whatever Mon, 11 May 2009 13:01:03 +0000 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/?p=11137#comment-783945 Enough of Chien-Ming Hughes, I want the real deal back up here. Enough of Chien-Ming Hughes, I want the real deal back up here.

]]> By: 86w183 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2009/05/10/wang-to-start-tuesday-in-scranton/comment-page-2/#comment-783938 86w183 Mon, 11 May 2009 12:17:21 +0000 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/?p=11137#comment-783938 the difference in how Joba and Hughes ahndled lousy beginning this wqeekend speaks volumes. Someone suggest Huighes to the pen and, frankly it might have merit at some point. Where is this alleged changeup he's been mastering? I think people are who they are in terms of toughness. You circumstances play a role as fo your parents/influences but I've know siblings who were completely different in that regard. It still comes down to the individual and who he/she becomes. Big night for Wang in Scranton. Am I the onyl one who noticed that Alex ran to first on that grounder like Walter Brennan from the Real McCoy's? He beats that out easily when healthy. the difference in how Joba and Hughes ahndled lousy beginning this wqeekend speaks volumes. Someone suggest Huighes to the pen and, frankly it might have merit at some point. Where is this alleged changeup he’s been mastering?

I think people are who they are in terms of toughness. You circumstances play a role as fo your parents/influences but I’ve know siblings who were completely different in that regard. It still comes down to the individual and who he/she becomes.

Big night for Wang in Scranton.

Am I the onyl one who noticed that Alex ran to first on that grounder like Walter Brennan from the Real McCoy’s? He beats that out easily when healthy.

]]> By: JeterJobaFan http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2009/05/10/wang-to-start-tuesday-in-scranton/comment-page-2/#comment-783930 JeterJobaFan Mon, 11 May 2009 09:11:13 +0000 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/?p=11137#comment-783930 Interesting analogy SJ44 on Hughes and Joba. Adversity has a way of making a kid tougher or weaker and a lot of it depends on the strong influence of a father. Joba's dad is a taskmaster from articles I have read and they are very close. He has been estranged from his mother for years. Being overweight as a youngster is an adversity onto it's own. Joba was able to lose the weight to give himself a better change at being a class athlete. He has been able to make the changes necessary and make them stick. He has heart and guts. Everyone remembers the stories of Tiger's dad, working with him at an early age and being with him at all times until health would not allow it. It takes extreme dedication to succeed in sports -- and a boat load of talent. Joba has both, and is a better pitcher than Phil. Phil is the one who should be groomed for the pen, not Joba. About the fist pumping incident - what a bunch of hogwash. Joba had his game face on and didn't seem to notice or much less care. He wants to win. Period. What Huff did was premeditated and bush league. I used to be an Oriole fan. No more. Joba turns his body away from the batter when he shows any emotion, Huff looked right at him and his team mates laughed. BRobb is definitely off my list for life. Why do sportscasters pick on Joba? Because he is a winner and a Yankee. I hate to admit to this but there are times when I wish he was on another team so he could pitch his game and probably be a 2 or 3 starter right now and not have to face the backlash of being a Yankee. Especially during the back to the bull pen debates. I want every one to know that this is a young man who is half Winnebago Indian and attended the University of Nebraska. He makes a lot of native American's proud that he has achieved the success he has much less with a storied team like the Yankees. The media should be giving him chops for overcoming a tough young life and making it to the bigs instead of the negative press he receives. And so does Jacoby Ellsbury, but that is another story. I too am native America and I will advocate for Joba's success until I can no longer sit at a computer. Can't you just envision a little old Indian lady in a rest home yelling on the phone... WHY ISN'T JOBA PITCHING? Interesting analogy SJ44 on Hughes and Joba. Adversity has a way of making a kid tougher or weaker and a lot of it depends on the strong influence of a father. Joba’s dad is a taskmaster from articles I have read and they are very close. He has been estranged from his mother for years. Being overweight as a youngster is an adversity onto it’s own. Joba was able to lose the weight to give himself a better change at being a class athlete. He has been able to make the changes necessary and make them stick. He has heart and guts.

Everyone remembers the stories of Tiger’s dad, working with him at an early age and being with him at all times until health would not allow it. It takes extreme dedication to succeed in sports — and a boat load of talent. Joba has both, and is a better pitcher than Phil. Phil is the one who should be groomed for the pen, not Joba.

About the fist pumping incident – what a bunch of hogwash. Joba had his game face on and didn’t seem to notice or much less care. He wants to win. Period. What Huff did was premeditated and bush league. I used to be an Oriole fan. No more. Joba turns his body away from the batter when he shows any emotion, Huff looked right at him and his team mates laughed. BRobb is definitely off my list for life.

Why do sportscasters pick on Joba? Because he is a winner and a Yankee. I hate to admit to this but there are times when I wish he was on another team so he could pitch his game and probably be a 2 or 3 starter right now and not have to face the backlash of being a Yankee. Especially during the back to the bull pen debates.

I want every one to know that this is a young man who is half Winnebago Indian and attended the University of Nebraska. He makes a lot of native American’s proud that he has achieved the success he has much less with a storied team like the Yankees. The media should be giving him chops for overcoming a tough young life and making it to the bigs instead of the negative press he receives. And so does Jacoby Ellsbury, but that is another story.

I too am native America and I will advocate for Joba’s success until I can no longer sit at a computer. Can’t you just envision a little old Indian lady in a rest home yelling on the phone… WHY ISN’T JOBA PITCHING?

]]> By: Lauren http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2009/05/10/wang-to-start-tuesday-in-scranton/comment-page-2/#comment-783663 Lauren Sun, 10 May 2009 23:36:34 +0000 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/?p=11137#comment-783663 I will be at the game Tuesday to see Wang pitch. Should be a good time! I will be at the game Tuesday to see Wang pitch. Should be a good time!

]]> By: Pat M http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2009/05/10/wang-to-start-tuesday-in-scranton/comment-page-2/#comment-783641 Pat M Sun, 10 May 2009 23:25:28 +0000 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/?p=11137#comment-783641 m, I compared the three according to their ages, and Hughes is way ahaead across the board....Sanatana logged many innings in the secure comfort zone of the bullpen....One thing the other two and just about any young pitcher that has come up in the past 5 years, they haven't had to dael with 1'5 of the pressure that Hughes is had to deal with ...He's been called up when the Yanks need a win, because things are a mess like they were 2 years ago when he was 20....Also when they needed someone to come in a relieve in Cleveland during the 2007 playoffs, and of course 10 days ago in Detroit...He did unravel last night, he started rushing pitchers, 4 times he had 02 counts and didn't put the hitter away...Composure comes with maturity....As Randy I said two years ago this month, if he's coming up, the bullpen is where he belongs... m, I compared the three according to their ages, and Hughes is way ahaead across the board….Sanatana logged many innings in the secure comfort zone of the bullpen….One thing the other two and just about any young pitcher that has come up in the past 5 years, they haven’t had to dael with 1’5 of the pressure that Hughes is had to deal with …He’s been called up when the Yanks need a win, because things are a mess like they were 2 years ago when he was 20….Also when they needed someone to come in a relieve in Cleveland during the 2007 playoffs, and of course 10 days ago in Detroit…He did unravel last night, he started rushing pitchers, 4 times he had 02 counts and didn’t put the hitter away…Composure comes with maturity….As Randy I said two years ago this month, if he’s coming up, the bullpen is where he belongs…

]]> By: Bill http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2009/05/10/wang-to-start-tuesday-in-scranton/comment-page-2/#comment-783639 Bill Sun, 10 May 2009 23:25:21 +0000 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/?p=11137#comment-783639 You don't think PH has had to work through adversity? How about missing almost 2 years due to freak injuries? How about suffering the humiliation of a ridicuously bad 2008 where he lost a job in the NYY rotation pitching in front of 50,000 rabid NYY fans all at the ripe old age of 21? He didn't sulk. He kept at it working on command, cutter change etc. while rehabbing. Went to the AFL worked some more. Went to a sports performance center during the winter to get in better shape. Pitched well in 2009 ST and AAA. So he had 2 more bad starts. He'll be back. I have never heard the kid make an excuse for a bad performance, never feel sorry for himself for injuries or losing his job. He owns up to every bit of his struggles. That takes "a pair" if you ask me. You don’t think PH has had to work through adversity? How about missing almost 2 years due to freak injuries? How about suffering the humiliation of a ridicuously bad 2008 where he lost a job in the NYY rotation pitching in front of 50,000 rabid NYY fans all at the ripe old age of 21? He didn’t sulk. He kept at it working on command, cutter change etc. while rehabbing. Went to the AFL worked some more. Went to a sports performance center during the winter to get in better shape. Pitched well in 2009 ST and AAA. So he had 2 more bad starts. He’ll be back. I have never heard the kid make an excuse for a bad performance, never feel sorry for himself for injuries or losing his job. He owns up to every bit of his struggles. That takes “a pair” if you ask me.

]]> By: S.A.--The sun will come out tomorrow http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2009/05/10/wang-to-start-tuesday-in-scranton/comment-page-2/#comment-783627 S.A.--The sun will come out tomorrow Sun, 10 May 2009 23:20:37 +0000 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/?p=11137#comment-783627 Oh no doubt Francesa will be yapping about the fist pumping stuff regarding Jobber tomorrow and beyond. Heck, even tonight on Mike'd Up Oh no doubt Francesa will be yapping about the fist pumping stuff regarding Jobber tomorrow and beyond.

Heck, even tonight on Mike’d Up

]]> By: SJ44 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2009/05/10/wang-to-start-tuesday-in-scranton/comment-page-2/#comment-783626 SJ44 Sun, 10 May 2009 23:19:50 +0000 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/?p=11137#comment-783626 Mel, If he can't learn it, he will fail. He doesn't need Kobe, MJ, off the charts toughness. But, he needs to be MUCH tougher than he is right now or he won't make it. Regardless of talent. Its a tough business and only the tough survive. I hope Hughes gets there. I really do. That said, I'm not upset at all a teammate, the most productive guy on the team no less, called him out. Hey, let the kid us that as fuel to get better. I really don't care what he uses to get tougher. He has to use something though or he is destined to be a AAA-AAAA pitcher, regardless of how old he is right now. Mel,

If he can’t learn it, he will fail.

He doesn’t need Kobe, MJ, off the charts toughness.

But, he needs to be MUCH tougher than he is right now or he won’t make it. Regardless of talent.

Its a tough business and only the tough survive.

I hope Hughes gets there. I really do.

That said, I’m not upset at all a teammate, the most productive guy on the team no less, called him out.

Hey, let the kid us that as fuel to get better.

I really don’t care what he uses to get tougher. He has to use something though or he is destined to be a AAA-AAAA pitcher, regardless of how old he is right now.

]]> By: Zach in Port Jeff http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2009/05/10/wang-to-start-tuesday-in-scranton/comment-page-2/#comment-783624 Zach in Port Jeff Sun, 10 May 2009 23:17:22 +0000 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/?p=11137#comment-783624 I have no doubt the next two days of Francessa will be centered around "fist pumping" and "Joba-to-the-pen" debates. I have no doubt the next two days of Francessa will be centered around “fist pumping” and “Joba-to-the-pen” debates.

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