Pitching matchups for the Toronto series
Posted by: Peter Abraham - Posted in Misc on May 11, 2009 
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Doc vs. Burnett.. should be a fun one, but makes me a little nervous.
from last thread:
Joba is a phenomenal young pitcher who burst onto the scene and has been beloved by his fan base and turned almost into a cult hero.
Of course people are going to hate him.
Pettitte is 2-1 with a 4.38 era
Call me crazy, but i am thinking sweep
> Call me crazy, but i am thinking sweep
Which team?
The team needs to win this series. With these three on the hill, there should be no excuse.
had a great time in Baltimore but unfortunately went to the Saturday game instead of Friday or Sunday…I just posted the solution to the “camera behind the net problem” in the previous thread…and of course it was right there in Baltimore. Said it there and I’ll say it again, how the Yankees don’t look to other ball-parks for a solution is beyond me…
As far as the Toronto series, I’ll be happy with a series win. Hopefully we can be the team to start their yearly free-fall and put them back in their place…
Middle game would appear to be the key as the Jays and Yanks have a decided edge in the pitching match up in Games 1 and 3 respectively. Pettitte is 17-11 career vs. the Jays and 12-5 at Skydome/Rogers Centre
Oh goody two pitchers the Yankees haven’t seen before. I’ll be happy to get 1 game.
Just looking ahead.
http://mlbcontracts.blogspot.c.....gents.html
Burnett can’t give up more than 2 runs if we want any chance to beat Halladay. Richmond lost his first game in Oakland the other night. We’ll see how he rebounds, as well as Pettite from his last start. I expect CC to keep building momentum from that great start in Baltimore. Should take 2 of 3.
Hokiehill
Me too
Plus I was right in the section with the idiots with the foam needles. Took till the 8th inning to kick him out. But somehow he came back in. Total bs. Garbage job by Baltimore security. Yankees are too far one extreme. But Baltimore was too far the other way. I don’t understand how they were let into the park with them.
i also had to deal with the foam needles while reminding the 5 orioles fans in attendence that oriole fans have no room to talk about steroids, with palmeiro, roberts, gibbons, tejada, brady anderson, and so on…
i was at sat game too,,,O fans have gotten rough,,had 2 kids with me and was uncomfortable at times,,,clean fun good,,,drunk obnoxious not…
again…do you guys think that javier lopez can help this bullpen??
The guy who was the most obnoxious had a plastic soda cup. Well everyone around me was like he has whiskey in there. There is no way he was drinking soda, he was so hammered.
“again…do you guys think that javier lopez can help this bullpen??”
There is a reason Boston let him go… namely the inability to throw strikes, resulting in a 9+ ERA
jennifer, i saw them cheer when they took him out..( by left field wall?)
once you leave a stadium youre not allowed back in with same tickket..maybe he bought another?
i was on first base rail,,it seemed a lot of yank fans were in upper deck, starting yank cheers etc,,,seemed more fun area than where we were, O’s fans got a kick outta being obnoxious..
“Middle game would appear to be the key as the Jays and Yanks have a decided edge in the pitching match up in Games 1 and 3 respectively”
Game 1:
RHP A.J. Burnett (2-0, 5.26) vs. RHP Roy Halladay (6-1, 3.29)
Really??
Yankee U:
Yeah, really, Halladay is a far superior pitcher to Burnett.
Yankee U,
He meant Jays have decided edge in game 1, Yankees have it in game 3.
Game 2 is the rubber.
Sorry, I misread what you wrote. Now I agree with you.
No sweat, Yankee U. Probably used bad grammar in there somewhere.
Damon is the lifeline right now, if two more guys get the Damon bug…maybe Tex, Arod, Jeter or Cano, then we can roll through the next couple of series and really have something to build on.
Otherwise, it’s going to be a lot more of the same, waiting for Johnny Damon to come up with a big hit late in the game. Eventually, this will end.
The key ingredients imo are Tex and Cano.
No, it was me, still trying to get rid of the cobwebs on Monday morning
Look at the glorious ERA of our starters (not even going to mention the wonderful BP)
Jeebus. A.J. needs to throw a game like CC did last week.
stfu
agree, w/o damon we would have 4 more losses…
If this team can get ONE other player hot we’ll be fine…no one else stepping up…melky has the avg, but not timely enough…cano carried us for first 12 games, but now a dp machine..
i know tex is a gamer, but he looks sooo bad in his choice selection w/o his historical#s i’d say he was a bad giambi at the plate?!
I would love to see the Yankees take 2/3 – in fact, I think they need to – but I’m not expecting it. Yes, I know the Yankees took 2/3 from the O’s, but they are up against a team who has outplayed them in all aspects of the game up until this point….I don’t understand the lack of respect for the Jays based on who they’ve played. All you can do is win games and that’s what the Jays have done – they’ve done it better than the Yankees thus far.
As for the Joba thing, I really don’t have a problem with what Huff did. To avoid that kind of behavior, just don’t give up the HR. If Joba was on any other team, we’d hate him. He came into the league and from the very first moment, acted as cocky on the mound as if he’d been pitching for 10 years; frankly, I can see why that would irritate people. That said, Joba got his sweet revenge in the best way possible – he shut the O’s down and his team won the game. I assume teams don’t care about Paplebon’s and K-Rod’s histrionics because they’re upset about losing the game and just want to get off the field. If you win the game, you can do whatever you want to.
my memory is short..please help..
are the seasons this ‘fragile’ every year?
injuries dominate..
wins seem half ‘lucky’
defeats definitive..
it was this way all last season,,is it always?
Jennifer & 101, I wasn’t worried about the foam needles…I just assumed the were for Brian Roberts…Looking around the stadium it was evident to me that the Yankee fans far out numbered the O’s fans. I guess it’s cheaper for NY folks to travel to Baltimore and see a game than it is to watch one in Yankee Stadium…I was sitting in company seats so I did not buy them, but we were a few rows up in between the home dugout and home plate…I noticed that these seats which would cost $2500 per game in NY were $48 per game for season tickets…or $80 if you bought the game individually. I know everything in NY in general is more expensive but not 52x as expensive as things in Baltimore. I’m paying way more to see Yankees vs Sox in YS and I’ll be sitting in the bleachers.
Let’s focus on taking 2 outta three and get to .500….
Burnett should be pretty pumped up going against his mentor in Halladay. That said, I don’t like our chances in that game.
hokiehill,
i bought 4 tickets on stubhub, sat in front row AAA at first base line,,,100$ each on stubhub,,,face probably 48$…
i may never see that at new yank stadium!
I find the foam needles interesting in Baltimore, of all places. They don’t remember Miguel Tejada? SO quickly they forget?
http://www.boston.com/sports/b.....nt/?page=2
Not just tejada: palmeiro, roberts, gibbons, brady anderson….
Jennifer, 101, not sure if you all were there for BP, but Swish was having a blast interacting with the fans. Some ladies next to us (thankfully only in the section for BP) were yelling and girating toward Swish and he turned and pointed and yelled “Oh yeah!” It worked out perfect because my friend’s wife has a great pic of Swish pointing and smiling and it looks like he was pointing right at her.
The O’s fans around us were not that bad although I did have one O’s fan certain that we were in her seats…we had the same seat letters and numbers but she was 2 sections over…I basically had to usher her to her seat so she would leave us alone…also had a kid that most likely lived in his mom’s basement a few rows in front of us who yelled most of the game…if he had been behind me it would have been a problem, thankfully he was not.
baseball 101, we must have been fairly close. I was in section 28 rows CCC and DDD…there were a lot of Yankees fans around us.
PittsburghYaneeFan, I think the problem in a place like Baltimore is that they probably aren’t even aware that Tejada used steriods or that Brian Roberts was in the Mitchell Report…it’s sad that they pay far more attention to what’s going on with the Yankees and Red Sox than their own team…the analogy I am thinking of is P…nis envy…it’s really almost a dangerous obsession.
Hokie
sec 12, row AAA, very cool…though we got ‘yelled at’ for leaning forward on the wall in front of us,,evidently people down the line couldnt see unless they leaned forward too…always some drama,,not always reminding a 7and 8 year old to sit back made us ‘ugly’ yank fans i guess…probably why i was ‘less than thrilled’ with O fans..
baseball 101
Yep we all cheered when he was removed. You think that would be a hint to the security people that he was being a jerk?
I missed bp at a bar drinking, Now I am sad that I missed it. Love Swish, would have loved to see him interact iwth the fans.
Yeah, I guess home fans get defensive when their park gets invaded, but no excuse to be rude…the unfortunate thing is as mush as you complain about O’s fans it’s most likely going both ways. I’ve never been a visiting fan in YS but I’d bet it’s no picnic. Sad thing is, 99% of the fans could be nice, but it only takes 1 to ruin that for everyone. We fight with this at VT football games all the time. We cheer hard for our team and against the other team, but try to leave it at that. Nothing about cheering for your team needs to be a personal attack against visiting fans but it will always happen. For every opposing fan I treat with respect, offer food/drink to at our tailgate, there is probably one being cussed at or spit on…it’s a shame because we can self police our fans only so much.
hokiehill
Well said hokiehill….one bad apple rule…
Pete, don’t give Andy A.J.’s ERA! Although he might be glad to have his win-loss record…
new post..
PA,
Your reductionist “analysis” of Cabrera’s abilities is puzzling.
First of all, I was also at the game, and sat in the second level a quarter of the way down the 3B line from behind the plate. Cabrera does have an arm, which is why he elected to throw to third; he obviously thought he had a play.
Guys with actual arms sometimes make those kinds of decisions. His choice aside, what a leap – to declare he’s not a good center fielder.
This need to comment on this stands out in stark contrast to your deafening silence each time Brett Gardner ran bad route after bad route, looking over the wrong shoulder, turning what should have been a number of routine fly outs into doubles.
Not even an attempt at an affectionate, positively spinned scolding like “Gardner has great speed but needs to improve his reads,” not even this.
That’s some pretty unbalanced reporting, unless, of course, you are unable to recognize good defense for bad from centerfield.
Assuming that’s not the case (I have no idea what your level of knowledge is) and giving you the benefit of the doubt as a baseball writer, I would say it’s a little late in the day to lobby for Gardner to unseat Cabrera, who is leading the team in OBP and batting average.
Really, your stake in who played CF for the Yankees, & a seeming unbridled bitterness toward Cabrera, just doesn’t add up, considering you are not, to the best of my knowledge, either Gardner’s agent or his mother.
Melky has clearly won the job and I agree that throw was not such a bad idea. If the throw was on target you have a close play. Once Alex saw the throw was off-line he should have come off the base and thrown to second… oh well.
Still Girardi is making a mistake letting Gardner languish on the bench. He should start every 3/4 days with wish or Damon taking a turn at DH. Between Berroa, Gardner and the last pitcher in the bullpen they’ve been playing three men short in most games. That doesn’t make sense.
I don’t ever worry about a particular pitching match up. Halliday is great, but he does give up runs. AJ has been spotty but can dominate games. Go play and see what happens.
Maybe this day off will let the Yanks bring someone up to provide a better bench bat than what Berroa offers.
baseball 101, i know tex is a gamer, but he looks sooo bad in his choice selection w/o his historical#s i’d say he was a bad giambi at the plate?!
He could bat .150 and still be more valuable than Giambi on the runs he saves you in the field alone, he is an incredible 1st baseman. In the loss last week, when he hit the fly to right too short (the one that would have tied the game up), he showed a lot of emotion in the dugout, reminded me of Paul O’Neill. I like that kind of emotion. I think he gets hot soon and will help this team tremendously.
Waiting for these guys to “warm up” is like chinese water torture I know, but believe me, they will get hot. These games seem to be frustrating them as much as us, also a good sign (for now).
RE: Melky vs Gardner
I was a big Gardner fan during ST and the end of last year, I love the speed he brings. But I have to agree that his fielding is average and his bat is terrible. Melky is clearly the better CF at this point and until he proves otherwise, belongs in the lineup everyday. I do think it’s a waste having Gardner ride the pine as much as he has though.
Still Girardi is making a mistake letting Gardner languish on the bench. He should start every 3/4 days with wish or Damon taking a turn at DH. Between Berroa, Gardner and the last pitcher in the bullpen they’ve been playing three men short in most games. That doesn’t make sense.
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He’s a dangerous weapon as a late-innings PR and as undeveloped as his outfield defense is, he has a great set of legs to help refresh the OF late in games.
But I have to agree about his languishing. He can fill above-mentioned role well, and the last bunt he laid down was a good one, so that’s good to see. But if they think he has a future, it’d be wise to let him go down to AAA and work on his hitting. He hopefully can get back to using his legs to drive the ball, instead of taking that upper cut swing. I guess it depends on what the Yankees envision for his future.