Game 32: Yankees at Blue Jays
Posted by: Peter Abraham - Posted in Misc on May 12, 2009 
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YANKEES (15-16)
Gardner CF
Damon LF
Teixeira 1B
Rodriguez 3B
Matsui DH
Cano 2B
Cabrera RF
Cash C
Pena SS
Pitching: RHP A.J. Burnett (2-0, 5.26).
Burnett vs the Toronto hitters.
BLUE JAYS (22-12)
Scutaro SS
Hill 2B
Rios RF
Wells RF
Lind DH
Rolen 3B
Overbay 1B
Barajas C
Snider LF
Pitching: Roy Halladay (6-1, 3.29).
Halladay vs. the New York hitters.
Time/TV: 7:07 p.m., My9.
STAT OF THE DAY: In his only previous start against the Blue Jays, A.J. Burnett allowed one run over nine innings. That was back on June 9, 2001.
THE TEACHER AND THE STUDENT: This game is a certified big deal in Toronto, as big as any Leafs practice anyway. Burnett is not a popular fellow after opting out of his contract and signing with the big, bad Yankees. Until last season, Burnett had a rocky time in Toronto. Halladay was a major influence on him and the two are close friends. You can bet each right-hander badly wants to win.
Halladay is 12-2 in his last 18 starts against the Yankees.
ROY’S THE BOY: Zach Greinke has done some marvelous things this season. But Halladay remains the gold standard of American League starters. He is 58-24 over the last four seasons. It’s worth noting that he was 18-17, 4.95 over the first 49 games of his career. Those expecting instant excellent from pitchers like Joba Chamberlain and Phil Hughes, take note.
BURNETT’S BEEN BAD: After winning his first two starts for the Yankees, A.J. Burnett is 0-0, 6.66 over the four starts that followed. His line: 24.1 innings, 25 hits, 18 earned runs, 13 walks, 18 strikeouts, five home runs.
CANO COMING ON: Is Robbie Cano over his skid? He is 4 of 12 with three extra over the last three games.
CITO’S THE MAN: The Blue Jays are 73-49 under Cito Gaston since he took over last manager last June 20.
A-ROD UPDATE: Alex Rodriguez is 2 for 11 with a home run, a walk and a strikeout in three games since coming off the disabled list.
SWISHER SINKS: In the seven games he has played since getting hit on the right elbow by a pitch, Nick Swisher is 3 of 23 with 12 strikeouts.
BACK ON THE MARK?: Is Mark Teixeira easing out of his slump? He is 7 of 29 (.241) with seven RBI in the last seven games.
JOHNNY B. GOODE: Johnny Damon is 13 of 31 (.419) over the last seven games with five home runs and 15 RBI. He has homered six times in the last 10 games.
GOT MELKY: Melky Cabrera is 19 of 52 (.365) in the 14 games since he became a starter again. He has only three RBI in that stretch, however.
Back later with more.
UPDATE, 4:40 p.m.: Jeter was scratched. No word why as of yet.
UPDATE, 5:01 p.m.: Jeter has an oblique pull.
UPDATE, 5:28 p.m.: Bruney will throw off the mound tomorrow. … Posada is in Florida amping up his rehab. … Brian Cashman is en route to Scranton to see Wang.
UPDATE, 6:37 p.m.: Here is a photo of Nick Swisher’s new haircut. It’s an internet exclusive. He said somebody who reminded him of Zohan cut it for him yesterday. He’s quite thrilled.
As for the other news: Bruney feels great and is anxious to get on the mound tomorrow. It’s uncertain whether he’ll need a rehab stint or not. They could do a simulated game during the homestand. … Jeter was injured on Friday or Saturday. It doesn’t seem too serious, but for him not to play, there’s definitely something wrong. His comment via a team spokesman: “I’m a little sore right now. Obviously I’m not in the lineup but I hope to be in there tomorrow.”
In terms of minor-league news: Obviously Wang starts tonight. Austin Jackson is third in the IL with a .432 OBP. … Alan Horne starts tonight for Trenton. … Andrew Brackman had a solid outing for Charleston last night (8 7 2 2 1 9) in a no decision. Brett Marshall starts tonight. … Jeremy Bleich on the hill tonight for Tampa.
No audio tonight. There was a speaker in the dugout making all sorts of noise and we could barely hear Girardi.
Enjoy the game.
UPDATE, 7:13 p.m.: A.J. got booed when he went out to the bullpe, when he walked in and when he went to the mound. They’re booing before every pitch.
This will be a nice test for him. Do you shut them up or do you crumble?
UPDATE, 7:31 p.m.: Alex needs to make that play. He backed up on it and let it play him. He’s usually a lot better than that.
The fans here are all over A.J. Lots of “A.J. sucks” chants. Can’t blame them. He opted out, left $24 million on the table and signed with a division rival. If a Yankee did that and signed with Toronto, people in New York would be all over him.
UPDATE, 7:34 p.m.: Pena can pick it. He’s fun to watch in the field. Playing him on the turf plays to his strengths. If Jeter has to be out, it might as well be here.
UPDATE, 7:55 p.m.: Burnett just lost his no-hitter. But Chien-Ming Wang has no-hit Charlotte through four innings in Scranton. His velocity also seems to be up.
Chad Jennings is following the game closely on his blog.
UPDATE, 8:04 p.m.: 2-0 Jays as Burnett is having a bad inning and still doesn’t have an out. Rolen’s double on a 1-2 count may have given Halladay all the run support he needs against a depleted Yankees lineup.
UPDATE, 8:21 p.m: Matsui out with a tight right hamstring. … Meanwhile, Halladay has retired the last 13 Yankees in order without breaking a sweat. Eight have been on grounders, three by strikeout.
The only ball to get to the outfield was Damon’s and he was thrown out at second.
UPDATE, 8:44 p.m.: Damon is pretty amazing. 15 of 33 with 10 extras. … Wang is done in Scranton: 6 3 0 0 3 6. 82 pitches / 49 strikes.
UPDATE, 8:47 p.m.: The Rogers Centre fans are chanting “steroids” at Alex and a fan just threw a foul ball he hit back on the field.
But he slaps an RBI single into left field. That’ll show them. Well, not really.
this is a statement game, of sorts…
I’ve seen many Toronto fans talking about the AL East this year (and rightfully so because their team is in 1st).
They’ve wondered if the Rays or Sox will both catch up and pass the Jays. They all say “we’re not even worried about the Yankees LOL”
It’s time to wake the sleeping giant. Go Yanks!
don’t the bad swisher/cano numbers support Melky’s lack of RBIs…kinda need people on base to bat in runs
What I like about this team right now, is that when some guys are slumping, others are picking up the slack.
If only the pitching could do the same.
AP has a little different take on lon trost and the stadium then pete. he said no changes this year but are concerned about fan interference the wind, and other issues..
pete always trying to paint those money grubber greedy yanks in the worst light…
the prices for memorabilia are crazy so here is a thought don’t buy anything until they lower the price……..
I hate My9. No pre and the Russ Salzberg postgame is annoying.
5’11/200 lbs wearing a Matsui 55 jersey? Gee, that’s about 60% of the male population metropolitan area.
Be a little more specific.
So more than half of my fantasy team is playing in the game tonight possibly – I have damon, arod, tex and cano for the yanks and my only starter going tonight is halladay. I also have downs who is the jays closer currently. My two guys on the bench are both in horrific slumps (sizemore and soto) so Im betting that tex or damon starting over sizemore even when they are facing halladay is going to net me more points. Its a tough call but grady has just fallen off the map the last few weeks. He is approaching tex;s batting avg but tex is slowly showing signs he is coming out of it. I wish i could say the same for sizemore but it doesnt seem so.
The pitching has picked up, and coincidentally or not, it’s happening as CC has picked up.
He’ll set the tone for the rest of the staff.
After winning his first two starts for the Yankees, A.J. Burnett is 0-0, 6.66 over the four starts that followed. His line: 24.1 innings, 25 hits, 18 earned runs, 13 walks, 18 strikeouts, five home runs.
Ouch. I know it is skewed by the Boston start but still
Quietly, Jobber has the best ERA on the staff
Why no swisher in the lineup?
Don’t think it’s a statement game, but a statement series.
Tonight is a game you shouldn’t expect the Yanks to win. Halladay is just a beast.
But, this is a series that the Yanks should take 2 of 3.
Gardner is 3-7 (.429) with a double against Halladay. I can see why he is in there
little OF help for depth, Rangers have a lot of good OFers wouldn’t mind having one of them
matt
May 12th, 2009 at 3:45 pm
Why no swisher in the lineup?
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Take a look at his numbers against Halladay. As good a day as any to give him a day off.
matt,
maybe something to do with the carpet? Singles have a way of skimming their way into doubles. maybe they want a little more speed in the OF?
Why’s Swisher sitting?
Gardner v. Halladay doesn’t inspire a whole lot of confidence.
I’m still ticked off as hell about the statement Trost made. The Yankees upper management is cut from the same cloth that AIG execs and Bernie Madoff were made from. I seriously hope that d***head realizes that when you alienate the people who REALLY support the team that there isn’t much of a team anymore. I will always love the Yankees, but I DESPISE the upper management. Isn’t there ANYONE in NYC that can fit him for cement galoshes??
no problem giving swish the day off, but why not let cervelli continue to build confidence?
m – you and i were watching a different yankees team on saturday then because the yankee game I saw, the pitching was crushed and hughes was hammered. Joba did alright after the first inning on sunday but you could tell he didnt have his quality command until his pitch count was at 80 or so. CC has picked up – not the pitching staff but I did think that CC’s performance could start the starters on a role. It didnt happen yet but it will one of these days.
Sox promoted Daniel Bard over the weekend, fyi.
Should be interesting to see how’s he’s used.
Their Joba. We’ll see.
Swisher needs to sit. Cano needs to be next.
Cervelli ?
I understand Melky for Swisher, we need defense vs Roy H. Swisher can come off the bench tonight.
As Bob said, this isn’t a statement game. Its kind of hard to have a statement game against Roy Halliday.
There are also no statement games in May in baseball.
Its all about winning series. If you win enough series, you make the playoffs.
If they can take 2 of 3, that’s a a 4-2 roadtrip after having a bad homestand.
They then come home for a chunk of the next 24-25 games.
That would be incremental progress for this group.
Which honestly, is all anybody can expect right now.
In fact, I submit this isn’t even the most important Yankee game this evening.
I think Wang’s start in Scranton is much more important.
They need Chien Ming Wang back to his usual effective self.
If they happen to lose tonight and Wang pitches great, that’s a win for the Yankees in my book.
Good move letting the veteran catch Burnett… he is a guy who can get emotional on the mound and might need frequent visits to the mound to calm him down. Cash is a better fit with AJ as a veteran.
Time to turn the corner and find ways to win games. We know they’ve been able to find ways to lose. AJ needs to come up big tonight and the Yanks need to take 2 of 3. No more excuses — just go out and win.
Cano needs to sit? The guy with 4 hits in the last 2 games needs to sit?
Stick to video games.
Swisher has bad numbers against Halliday. Plus, giving him an extra day to get his elbow healed can’t hurt.
Francessa is 100% right
How are we supposed go into a series against the best pitcher in the AL with a bottom lineup of Cabrera-Gardner-Cash? Throw in the slump of Teixeria and A-Rod not being 100% and we are at a serious disadvantage.
Only chance to win is for Burnett (and only Burnett, this bullpen will not get out this hot hitting team) to basically go 8 IP, 1-2 ER. Possible, but can never count on anyone doing that
dave,
You can cherry pick if you like, but it *feels* like the pitching has settled a bit. Wang is rehabbing. CC is finding his groove. Joba’s had zero troubles after the first inning. AJ is 2-0, with some “quality” starts (i know, lame. but they’ve been in position to win in some of his starts). Coke is settling into his role, mo’s not worse for the wear.
Pitchers will start settling into their roles, and I anticipate better results.
No Swish tonight? Maybe we give Tex a night of soon, unless he takes off… which is entirely possible… We got 100 more RBI’s comming from him
Dale Polley:
I think Bard might be “their Melancon” moreso than “their Joba”. They make no bones about him being a big league reliever rather than a starter.
lol, at that joke of a caller who asked, what do you feel about Swisher’s on field antics, like punching Cano in the chest and just acting against the guard.
Ummm… WE LOVE NICK SWISHER FOOL !
Thomas
May 12th, 2009 at 3:56 pm
Francessa is 100% right
How are we supposed go into a series against the best pitcher in the AL with a bottom lineup of Cabrera-Gardner-Cash? Throw in the slump of Teixeria and A-Rod not being 100% and we are at a serious disadvantage.
Only chance to win is for Burnett (and only Burnett, this bullpen will not get out this hot hitting team) to basically go 8 IP, 1-2 ER. Possible, but can never count on anyone doing that
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How about relaxing and just watch and enjoying the game, and arguably the best pitcher in the game?
You could field a lineup of All-Stars 1-9 against Halladay and still be at a disadvantage.
There’s no shame or need to panic if this game is lost.
What would Francesa propose they do?
Posada, Molina and Nady are hurt.
You think think the Yankees WANT to play Kevin Cash tonight?
He’s their FOURTH catcher for God sake. As a veteran though, who has faced Halliday before, it makes more sense than playing a kid who was in AA last week.
Instead of whining about it, how about he tell his flock what HE would do with the lineup tonight.
He’s not “right”, he’s a moron.
Somebody should let him know who is on the DL before he talks out of his butt again.
Marte and Veras like the cha-cha and the chicas
“Marte and Veras like the cha-cha and the chicas”
I swear I keep thinking that’s why they can’t pitch this yr.
SJ I’d want Cervelli starting because he can call a game and throw out runners better than Cash IMO.
ok m,
I agree joba is going to find a nice groove very soon. CC has found it. Wang is rehabbing although tonight will be a telling sign and Mo showed us that his velocity is back. Coke was doing well already. Im not buying that AJ line though, hughes was nothing short of disastrous his last start and wang while on his way back has not proved much of anything yet. So I find it real hard to say the yanks pitching has found a groove. I will admit that it could be coming sooner than most people may think especially if wang is lights out tonight but its not here yet. CC finding his stuff and becoming our ace finally is not the yanks getting into a groove – its CC getting into a groove. Joba needs to fix his first inning woes, wang needs to pitch well tonight, AJ needs to keep the yanks in the game tonight and hughes needs to not ever do what he did on saturday again. Then, i will definitely concur.
Somebody wrote a post last night about the game threads that, next to somebody looking to fight people here under the O’Neill banner, was the funniest thing Non-Nick in SF thing I’ve ever read on the blog.
Hopefully, somebody can find it and post it in here because I forgot which topic its under.
It captured the game thread beautifully! lol
i’m curious why when Joe puts Melky and Gardner in the same line-up at RF/CF, that Gardner is the CF and Melky the RF. Does he like Melky’s arm better in right, or Gardners glove better in center?
SJ – was it that list of emotions when things are going well and not?
Cash is as good a game caller and thrower as Cervelli.
In fact, Cervelli really isn’t a great thrower. That’s not his rep. He’s ok but, certainly not above average.
I think its the right move to go to Cash tonight. I’d want a veteran back there for AJ and Cash has seen Halliday and worked against the Blue Jays hitters in his career.
I don’t think that’s a bad move for Girardi tonight.
Not to mention Melky is hitting well over .300 and is the second hottest hitter on the team (next to Damon) why wouldn’t we want him in the line up tonight?
matt
May 12th, 2009 at 3:45 pm
Why no swisher in the lineup?
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Because Swisher has 2 hits in 12 at bats and 5 strikeouts, and NYY needs the speed to cover the gaps.
can we put a ban on the “Francesa just said this” posts for the rest of the season, or at least for a day? The no ARod for a day worked pretty good back in ST. I’m saying this for what must be the 100th time but some guys just don’t get the message…Francesa is an idiot, but anyone of you who hates the guy and still listens every day are much bigger idiots. STOP GIVING DAILY UPDATES ON WHAT THAT TERD SAYS BECAUSE MOST OF US WOULD LIKE TO AVOID IT!!
SJ – agree with everything you’ve said besides Cash. I’m not high on Cash – and I don’t think he has ever faced Halladay. But you’re right, there isn’t anything the Yanks can do right now – I think it has more to do with AJ being on the mound as someone mentioned earlier.
Anyone saying Cano should sit is a fool. Finally we have our entire starting infield back, and people are calling for Cano of all people to take a day off.
SJ – This one?
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Typical Game post
When Trailing:
Team has no heart
Fire Girardi
Fire Cashman
Teix is a bust
Not making the playoffs
Boston/Tampa/Toronto are so superior
Torre would have gotten us to the playoffs
No farm system
George needs to chew these guys out, Hal is a robot
Stadium is awful
When we take the lead:
Nice!!!
Woo Hoo!!!!
This team has so much heart
Re-sign (hitter of note) to a new deal
What a gutty performance
We’re going to overtake Boston
YES!!!!!!
Best win of the year!
Rishi,
I think that’s what it was. It was hysterical! lol
Melky is in RF because of his arm more than Gardner being a better CF.
You can’t have 2 weak arms in the corner OF spots. Especially in Toronto because there is a lot of room down the lines.
Here you are SJ
River Mike
May 11th, 2009 at 8:48 pm
Typical Game post
When Trailing:
Team has no heart
Fire Girardi
Fire Cashman
Teix is a bust
Not making the playoffs
Boston/Tampa/Toronto are so superior
Torre would have gotten us to the playoffs
No farm system
George needs to chew these guys out, Hal is a robot
Stadium is awful
When we take the lead:
Nice!!!
Woo Hoo!!!!
This team has so much heart
Re-sign (hitter of note) to a new deal
What a gutty performance
We’re going to overtake Boston
YES!!!!!!
Best win of the year!
dave,
I’ll have to look back, and AJ is not pitching as well, but he is keeping his team in games (even the 16-11 loss was winnable!). No excuses for him, just saying that he’ll be fine because he’s giving his team a chance even if he doesn’t have his best stuff. And Coke has not always been good. Horrible spring and a horrible start to the season. But he’s been better, looking more like Original Coke.
I think they will take CC’s lead. I’m going to get blasted for this, but this team may have been unprepared to see CC’s slow start up close. He was supposed to come in and dominate and everything was going to be okay. Well, it wasn’t. But now that CC’s arrived, I think it can only reduce the pressure on the other pitchers.
i’m curious why when Joe puts Melky and Gardner in the same line-up at RF/CF, that Gardner is the CF and Melky the RF. Does he like Melky’s arm better in right, or Gardners glove better in center?
melky has the strongest arm. usually the strongest arm is in rf.
I admit that halladay is one of the best pitchers in baseball. In fact, I drafted him for my fantasy team so he could be the ace of my staff. That is how much I appreciate his abilities. bUT SOME of you guys are acting like we have little shot because we are facing halladay. Its not like roy is putting up greinke or Johan-like numbers so far this season. He has been alright so far. He had a few rough outings, a few mediocre ones and a few quality outings. hE he won six because his team is scoring runs for him
For example, he gave up 5 earned runs in 7 innings against detroit in his worst start and he still got the W. That is a weak start by any measure. Then, halladay gave up 5 runs in 8 innings against texas a few games back and got his only loss. That is also a very mediocre – poor start. Then, he had two decent starts against the O’s and the white sox. And he has had 3 very quality to superb starts one of which was last start and two were in the beginning of the season. So its not like halladay is on any sort of tear quite yet. Lets not act like we are facing cy young or even better, zack greinke tonight.
That’s the post! lol
Next, we should have a contest to match the posters with the comments because, depending how it goes tonight, you KNOW those comments will be written by someone in here. Winner gets seats to a game.
Hell, now that Pete is bigtime, he could probably pull a couple of Legends Seats for the contest! lol
As far as Cash is concerned, its a question of being “high” on him or not. He’s a veteran catch and throw guy who is going to have to play some with Posada and Molina out.
Tonight is as good a night as any to give him work.
Roger Clemens played for 4 teams in MLB. Why is it, that anytime he is brought up on ESPN at this point, he is only shown in a Yankee uniform?
BTW the idiot was not right…melky is hitting well of late and is a better defensive player than Swish (who I like but is somewhat slumping right now) and Gardner is a better defensive player as well, not to mention his BA is over 400 against Halladay…if you expect a low scoring game (which you should against Halladay) than naturally you should opt for defense over offense, although, in this case the offense works out…SJ made the point on Cash and he was right there…it’s not like we can plug in Posada or even Molina for that matter!
And now that Alex is back, there’s the trusty, staple ‘Everything is A-Rod’s fault’. Everything. Good. Bad. Even if it’s seemingly unrelated; doesn’t matter, A-Rod had something to do with it!
“Next, we should have a contest to match the posters with the comments because, depending how it goes tonight, you KNOW those comments will be written by someone in here. Winner gets seats to a game.”
Team has no heart
Fire Girardi
Fire Cashman
Teix is a bust
Not making the playoffs
Boston/Tampa/Toronto are so superior
Torre would have gotten us to the playoffs
No farm system
George needs to chew these guys out, Hal is a robot
Stadium is awful
When we take the lead:
Nice!!!
Woo Hoo!!!! — Me.
This team has so much heart — Me.
Re-sign (hitter of note) to a new deal
What a gutty performance — Me.
We’re going to overtake Boston —Me.
YES!!!!!! — Me.
Best win of the year! —Me.
uh, Gardner really? ugh.
I mis the under the Oneill banner rants
“In fact, I submit this isn’t even the most important Yankee game this evening.
I think Wang’s start in Scranton is much more important.
They need Chien Ming Wang back to his usual effective self.
If they happen to lose tonight and Wang pitches great, that’s a win for the Yankees in my book.”
Music to my ears. I’m going. I got tickets right behind home to see his movement.
Nice!!! = me
i didnt say coke was always doing well. I said he has been doing well already. i JUST looked it up for the stats – he has had one earned run since april 12th. Thats what I meant that he has been pitching well for about a month now.
I dunno about that AJ is keeping us in the game logic. i MEAN what does he have to do with the fact that the lineup just happened to hit well when he stunk. His numbers are completely skewed by one game though – i will give you that much. He has not found a groove yet though – 4 runs in 7 innings and 3 runs in 6, is not really what you are looking for from your number 2 starter. Especially if you are going to say he is doing well now. I would say mediocre. We will see tonight if he can pick it up a notch. I have a feeling he will do well tonight but i also really thought phil would be in the majors for good when he was brought up this last time so Im not going by feeling.
“uh, Gardner really? ugh.”
3 for 7 off of Halladay plus Melky is in RF becayse down lines in Toronto is more important than CF.
Brandon do you know he secret of the O’Neill banner? what lies beneath?
When Trailing:
Team has no heart
Fire Girardi
Fire Cashman
Teix is a bust
Not making the playoffs
Boston/Tampa/Toronto are so superior
Torre would have gotten us to the playoffs
No farm system
George needs to chew these guys out, Hal is a robot
Stadium is awful
When we take the lead:
Nice!!! – Me
Woo Hoo!!!!
This team has so much heart
Re-sign (hitter of note) to a new deal
What a gutty performance
We’re going to overtake Boston
YES!!!!!! – Me
“Brandon do you know he secret of the O’Neill banner? what lies beneath?”
I heard the Ortiz jersey was buried in that spot so they put Oneill on top of it.
you Brett will try to bunt on a couple times tonight?
If you people hate Francesa so much, why are you listening to him and commenting on what he said? Get a life.
Becca – nothing about how arod is not clutch???
Wow – i GUESS people really dont appreciate what they have until its gone if that isnt being filed under most likely said comment. Glad to see fans appreciating arod for once – lets see how long that lasts?
I think it’s a good move playing Gardner. Hallady is a groundball pitcher, so maybe Gardner can beat out an infield single or get one through and cause some problems on the bases. It also gets Swisher most of a night off and gives Girardi a real option to pinch hit for Cash late in the game.
3 for 7 is suppose to mean something? thats a stupid small sample size
“If you people hate Francesa so much, why are you listening to him and commenting on what he said? Get a life.”
Mrs. Diet Coke is that you ?
“3 for 7 is suppose to mean something? thats a stupid small sample size”
We have speed and defense in all 3 positions, Melky is playing tonight over Swisher WTF is your deal ?
Swisher is 2-12 with 5 K’s. Not exactly, “lighting it up” against Roy.
They don’t have another OF on the roster. So, its either Gardner or Swish tonight. I like giving Swish an extra day to get his elbow right.
Sitting out tonight is no big deal because he’s had no success against Halliday.
Instead of whining about the lineup, do a little research. You will find often there is a method to the madness.
“3 for 7 is suppose to mean something? thats a stupid small sample size”
We have speed and defense in all 3 positions WTF is your deal ? Melky is playing and will cut down the XBH because you don’t drive balls vs Burnett to CF hard and most the LHBs are pull hitters w/ pop.
55% of all balls hit against Halladay result in ground balls. That’s most likely why Gardner is playing.
Whether or not a ground ball turns into a hit is influenced by how hard it’s hit and where it’s hit. Where the ball is hit is at least partly a result of random behavior.
Girardi is likely thinking that given Halladay’s extreme groundball pitching, it makes sense to have Gardner’s speed in the line up so that he could in theory beat out a ground ball for a hit.
I’m with you Robert…drives me crazy…people B and moan about every word he says but they are basically providing the moron with free advertising…
Tex’s on base percentage right now is at 338 or 140 points higher than his average. And he is a career 287 hitter. If he continues taking those walks when he gets hot like he is not while he is struggling and his obp remains around 140 points higher that would be really impressive. Im sure some might say that not hitting may mean more walks but when players are struggling, they dont usually get more walks, they usually get less. If he hit 287 (his career avg) and had an obp 140 points higher, he would have an obp of 427 which would be a career high BY FAR. I doubt it will work out like that but for a guy to be able to have the worst slump of his entire career and still lead his team in walks for that period, shows exactly how MUCH PLATE DISCIPLINE tex really has. Swish is in second place in walks by the way and we all know how many pitches the rest of the lineup usually sees when healthy and doing well.
Good afternoon fellas. I have an off topic question for all.
My son plays pop warner and is about to start the new season. He played middle linebacker last year and led the team in tackles(biggest hitter on the team). He is moving up this year and there is a division 1 team(best players) and 3 division 2′s. Where would it be best for him to play.
Division 1- playes with the best but might not play his favorite position(middle linebacker)but rather d-line.
or
Division 2- Where he gets the middle lb spot but doesnt play the best?
I asked him this question and he wanted to play with the best. I sort of agree but wanted to get your take on it.
Thanks.
S.o.S: He should play wherever his skills will get the most development. Pretend it’s deciding between AA and AAA.
looking forward to the match-up tonight. we are facing an outstanding pitcher that won’t give us many opportunities to score runs.
i like our line-up. i think we can win with this group. love what i have seen so far from Cervelli. i hope Cash can be just as good while in the game today.
time for A.J. to show his mentor what he has learned and apply that to this game.
“Brandon do you know he secret of the O’Neill banner? what lies beneath?”
I made the crack that what lies beneath the O’Neill banner is a water cooler. Gives strength to all who hit it with a bat…
SOS,
Have him play against the best competition. That’s how you get better. Plus, at that age, its good to play multiple positions. That kind of versatility will help him when he eventually settles on one position.
jeter scratched from lineup…oh boy
UPDATE, 4:40 p.m.: Jeter was scratched. No word why as of yet.
uhoh
Oh dear.
well considering halladay clowns on him anyway, and his crap defense, this may be a good thing
too bad my fantasy team is sad
“I made the crack that what lies beneath the O’Neill banner is a water cooler. Gives strength to all who hit it with a bat…”
No wonder so many fights are planned under it.
jeter was scratched? I hope he didnt hurt himself during BP or some crap like that. That would be the last thing we need right now is another ridiculous injury.
Gardner in the lineup reminds me-
Why do we have 6 infielders and only 4 outfielders when only 4 infielders are going to play?
Well, at least we have one pinch hitter on the bench tonight.
time to see ramiro pena in action at short.
“Roger Clemens played for 4 teams in MLB. Why is it, that anytime he is brought up on ESPN at this point, he is only shown in a Yankee uniform?”
Good point, especially considering how dominant he was for the ‘Stros and Blue Jays… not to mention the fact that he built his HOF resume largely with the Sox.
Becca,
I assume your a new auntie. Congrats!! He is a biggest hitter/strongest kid(b-12) but not the fastest kid. Im not sure if that translates to d-line in the higher levels or middle linebacker. Some say if he plays against the best it will bring his game up to another level. But on the flip side if he doesnt get the opportunity then how will he?
Jeter probably not feeling well if I had to guess.
Jeter scratched ? well defense improves offense loses another weapon.
Garnder-Pena-Cash-Melky against Doc Halladay?
Yikes. Now watch us score 10 runs
Jeter was still rolling his neck this weekend. Maybe he’s still feeling the effects of that slide from last week.
“Why do we have 6 infielders and only 4 outfielders when only 4 infielders are going to play?”
Hopefully Alex can show he’s healthy enough for them to cut Berroa loose. He really is a redundancy – Pena can play all the same positions (probably better, too).
Jeter scratched? Anything happen in the last game to cause concern?
Who was ragging on Jeter for not working out earlier?
Hopefully he’s just feeling under the weather.
Zolio -
I was thinking the same thing…
That is a weak line up facing Halladay.
I’m still pissed why we didn’t sign Catalonotto, the brewers just signed him.
The guy CLOWNS on the red sox, and he was born on long island so he’s a hometown person.
stupidity. he would have been an excellent bench player, something we really lack.
“Gardner-Pena-Cash-Melky against Doc Halladay?”
Very Pittsburgh Pirate’ish huh?
wAVE your hat,
We should have a pinch hitter off the bench every night. But apparently, cash doesnt think we should make the best use of the entire organization. I dont get it. 4 potential bats in scranton that we could stick on our bench who would are hitting for power and contact and for some reason, none of them are coming up. What, they dont want to break up the team chemistry down there? I mean why worry about the major league squad when scranton is poised to win the division. Im sure it will mean just as much.
Well, maybe the best offense against Halladay is a good defense. Run prevention may be the ticket tonight.
Swisher’s 2-12 (.167) with five K’s vs. Halladay.
Gardner’s 3-7 (.429) vs. Halladay.
yall trippin and assumin stuff too early just wait till pete updates with news on jeter im sure its somethin little.
The reason Melky doesn’t get RBI’s is because the people before him never get on base! He is always batting with one or two outs!
And whats up with Gardner leading off? I’d rather see Melky and him switched, we know Melky walks a lot if he doesn’t hittt!
“That is a weak line up facing Halladay.”
With that said watch them drop an 8 spot on Halliday
SoS: Thanks. And from that I’d have to agree with SJ. Bump him up.
“The reason Melky doesn’t get RBI’s is because the people before him never get on base! He is always batting with one or two outs!”
Try again.
other negative items when the yare losing include; they have no heart, no prospects, they do not know how to manage the 25 or 40 man rosters, and we are old(even though they are the youngest yankee team since about 98).
if they are winning; way to show fire, we are going to go on a roll, this was a really important game, and other assorted old passe statements.
snyone catch steve phillips ludicrous statement on the mets game last night? the mets not hitting when johan pitches is actually johans fault.. how did this guy ever become a gm?
Pena will egt his shot
Thank you SJ and Becca. That makes a lot of sense. He’ll just have to work hard and earn it.
UPDATE, 4:40 p.m.: Jeter was scratched. No word why as of yet.
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Jeter out? I just want the baseball Gods to stop picking on the Yanks…
I wish they would stop wasting Cano in that 6 spot. Get him more fastballs to see between Teix and Arod or have him bat infront of Matsui. Maybe one day.
One thing about the trailing/leading list : you forgot ” SEND (Reliever currently pitching) To AAA and bring up (any young reliever in SWB) up!!!!!!
Jenks fined $750. Not saying he should be suspended, but didn’t Joba get suspended for alleged intent?
Jenks should get a warning. And the next near miss or hit batsman should warrant an automatic suspension.
berroa still being up here is exactly what I mean by not taking advantage of the spots the yankees have allotted. We have exactly zero pinch hitters when our starters start. What is today or tomorrow we are down by 3 with 2 on and 2 out in the ninth and cervelli is up. I mean, wouldnt it be nice to have somebody with some power pinch hit? And isnt that a good reason to keep cash on because he can come in after the pinch hitter or vice versa. I just dont understand some of the yanks roster decisions so far this season. When was the last time the yanks had a pinch hitter off the bench this season?
Word has it that Jeter has gotten some sand in the clitoral region that occurred from slide into 2nd base.
m: $750? $750 has gotta be like pocket change to him.
SA it’s not like he was going to drive in 4 runs vs Halladay, I wish Pena luck but honestly we got better defensively and added speed. Maybe Jetes PH for Matsui-san or Gardenhoser later.
CJ just had an update saying Steven Jackson has not head anything yet as far as his future. If someone does put a claim on him they will get a very versatitle reliever.
oblique problem for Jetes.
jeter scratched because of an oblique problem according to WFAN
Jeter- oblique problem
The people that complain the entire time in the game post need to climb back under the same rock they were under in the 80′s. It’s embarrassing.
Aunt Becca,
$25,000 min for the NBA. NFL’s start at about $5,000. mlb’s just not really interested in deterring certain behaviors, whether it’s steroids or throwing at batters.
No Brandon, and your name is lame.
I’m betting pulled oblique or strained.
I hope the oblique isn’t serious, Those things can linger. I wonder what he was doing on the day off? Hopefully not hanging out at any of Arods favorite spots.
Damn – earlier when I looked at the lineup I was so happy to see it packed. Having ARod back makes the lineup look really solid again. Now Jeter pops out and it looks somewhat lacking. Oh well, hopefully Gardner can gets some things going and throw Halliday out of his game.
“What is today or tomorrow we are down by 3 with 2 on and 2 out in the ninth and cervelli is up.”
Something very similar to this has already occurred twice – the last game of the Boston series and the first game of the Tampa series. So it isn’t like the Yanks don’t know what they are doing.
They’ve clearly chosen to forego a bench in order to keep Berroa up here or to have 13 pitchers. Maybe Berroa’s contract is now vested and the Yanks would have to eat it if they DFA him? I don’t know, his base salary is $800K and he has had 12 ABs so far. There must be a reason.
I, however, am just too clueless to figure it out, evidently.
so mike francesa just said its an oblique muscle TEAR.
what in the hell is going on with this team.
“No Brandon, and your name is lame.”
No what, they got better defensively whether you want to admit it or not, that’s not disrespecting anyone it’s the truth. I’m pissed we lost a bat and BTW oblique muscle tear for Jetes. NOT GOOD !
“Jeter out? I just want the baseball Gods to stop picking on the Yanks…”
This fatalistic, “woe is us” attitude sounds like it should be coming from a 9-year-old girl. Grow up and face things as they come and as they are.
Doe anyone remember if or when Jeter tweaked an Oblique? Those things can linger forever.
Oblique pull?? Are we talking DTD or 15 day DL here?
Oblique tear or oblique pull?
i’ll stick with pete reporting pull
“Jeter has an oblique pull.”
Please tell me this isn’t a DL situation. Abreu had one that lasted about a month. They are tricky.
That doesn’t sound good.
I’m so frikken sick of near daily injuries with this team.
francesa said tear, pete said pull.
Oblique can be really bad because there is no real way to heal it, and the torque of the body when hitting requires a lot of core muscles which includes the oblique. This could easily be a DL trip if it is strained.
o-blique? oh-boy.
Hopefully it’s minor. Looks like Pena’s gonna get regular play, just not in Scranton.
Wang
Bruney
Pasado
Hosey
The player formerly known as A-rod
Nady
All key players. Other guys going to have to pick up the slack.
Defense up the middle yes!
Pete’s says pull Francesa says tear, which is it?
Please tell me I’m not dreaming when I think michael kay has the night off tonight?
Hopefully it’s a pull. He has struggled a bit of late. They had a day off. They are facing a tough pitcher. Before it becomes more of a problem than maybe it is hopefully it’s a short term thing. We blame them not doign enough to protect against injuries, maybe this is a good approach here. Jorge had the problem the prior week and then hurt it playing to make it worse.
A pull is a tear. It just depends on the severity
Oh man….. Oblique pulls are no good… hopefully he only misses a week or two… Yikes
There’s very little reason for a team to pick up steven Jackson during the first 10 days. That team would have to give up money or talent. If they wait the ten days, all it costs a team is the salary that they pay him.
Tear or pull it’s still no easy to deal for any athlete.
Whatever it is, it ain’t good.
Regardless of when he actually plays again, I’d bet he won’t be right until the AS break.
Those things mess you up.
Harold: No. Kim Jones said Kay wasn’t making the trip to Toronto.
“Defense up the middle yes!”
Come on man I admit we added defense but try not to be that happy, it is Jeter.
Pat…
Salzberg migrated to NY channel 5 (Fox)
I thought he was awful awful also!
ONLY IN YANKEE LAND, do players get hurt before the game even starts. Either we are the unluckiest team in history or this team is extremely fragile – pick one.
wave,
Yup! And we lost both of those games of course. I mean one would hope the team knows what they are doing but I cant imagine their reasoning. We have at least four guys to choose from, the team has zero options off the bench so far this season and the only time we ever get a pinch hitter in is when a starter sits to start the game. Is Berroa really all that crucial to this club? I feel like I could never hear his name again this season and not even notice.
Pull and tear is pretty much the same thing I think. Tear sounds worse, but I imagine like most of these injuries a pull is like a slight tear? Who knows, I am not a doctor but it always seems like that’s what they say. Let’s hope it’s minimal and precotionary. Seems odd that no one knew about this until gametime today? if he was a late scratch maybe it’s a good sign they are being cautious rather than trying to be shifty.
If Jeter goes on the DL, bring up Eduardo Nunez
This is an aging team..and one with many former ‘roids users. Get used to the injuries.
With this lineup tonight, AJ better put up quite a few zeros!
It goes to show you, you can’t build around the old guard anymore. Those days are done.
“If Jeter goes on the DL, bring up Eduardo Nunez”
He’s gotten better but he’s not ready.
Here’s an interesting question for you people. Which “big bat” from Scranton do you want to see up? Duncan is absolutely raking, but we’ve seen his effectiveness against the full arsenal of MLB pitches. Jackson looks very good, but still developing and hasn’t shown much pop. Do you people really, in your heart of hearts, think that a guy like Linden is going to do ANYTHING more than what Berroa does? Catalanotto? That would be your solution with two outs down by two runs?
Day off yesterday, pulled oblique today…the Captain was apparently makin’ it happen with some Maxim Top 100 a little too much
BACK ON THE MARK?: Is Mark Teixeira easing out of his slump? He is 7 of 29 (.241) with seven RBI in the last seven games.
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I would like the “Back on the Mark” quote to be saying Tex is hitting .400 over the last 7 games, not .241. It just goes to show how terrible he has been with the stick this season.
You can NEVER build around aging players. Never could actually. And you reap what you sow. Ignore the bullpen, it comes back to bite you. Go the geriatric route, and you end up with a MASH ward of players on teh DL.
great to see good defense in the SS… let’s see what it will do to our pitcher’s confidence…..
Hey Jeter’s been injured before, for longer than I’m assuming this injury will put him out for.. and we have a much better lineup than when he was previously injured. It’s time for people to step up. A-Rod will get healthy, I think Cano is a big one.. time for him to start playing at his All-Star potential.
Also need the pitching staff to string a run together.. starting tonight.
Besides.. I like Pena. Not only does he upgrade the defense tremendously, but he has been hitting at a decent clip.
Stop feeling sorry for yourselves, Yanks.. go out and earn the W’s.
Gotta use the ’96 attitude. We play today. We win today. ‘Das it.
Al
LOL I was just thinking that. Sad that hitting .241 over a 7 game stretch is considered a hot streak
“With this lineup tonight, AJ better put up quite a few zeros!”
Opposing pitching aside, how does a lineup featuring Tex, ARod, and Damon become a bad lineup?
You can probably kiss Jeter good bye for about a month. These usually can take a while to heal, depending on the severity. Although Jeter is a tough guy who will try to play through an injury. I have no statistics in front of me to back this up, but the way he’s been hitting and plays defense, Pena is probably an upgrade at this point.
(Obvs, I know that Catalanotto is not a current in-house option…just that someone on the board is apparently really pissed off about his not being here)
Injuries are more likely to happen with an older team.
The only question is the severity.
john_halfz
May 12th, 2009 at 5:11 pm
Here’s an interesting question for you people. Which “big bat” from Scranton do you want to see up? Duncan is absolutely raking, but we’ve seen his effectiveness against the full arsenal of MLB pitches. Jackson looks very good, but still developing and hasn’t shown much pop. Do you people really, in your heart of hearts, think that a guy like Linden is going to do ANYTHING more than what Berroa does? Catalanotto? That would be your solution with two outs down by two runs?
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Duncan is on the DL.
“It goes to show you, you can’t build around the old guard anymore. Those days are done.”
3 of the 4 “old guard” are Rivera, Jeter and Posada. Lose any one of those guys for a long period of time and the Yanks are toast. That’s true for 2010 as well. So, in fact, the Yanks have built around them and continue to do so.
Joel Sherman said that no team has won a WS with a SS as old as Jeter
Of course the team is old. But an oblique injury is not a geriatric one. How old is Pujols now? He was out with a strained oblique 3 years ago.
SA it’s not like he was going to drive in 4 runs vs Halladay, I wish Pena luck but honestly we got better defensively and added speed. Maybe Jetes PH for Matsui-san or Gardenhoser later.
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Hahaha. True true.
But still, hate injuries.
It cant be that bad if he was in the original line-up and then was scrathed.
“Here’s an interesting question for you people. Which “big bat” from Scranton do you want to see up? Duncan is absolutely raking, but we’ve seen his effectiveness against the full arsenal of MLB pitches. Jackson looks very good, but still developing and hasn’t shown much pop. Do you people really, in your heart of hearts, think that a guy like Linden is going to do ANYTHING more than what Berroa does?”
Call me a dreamer, but yes I think Linden, J Rodriguez or Miranda would all hit better than Berroa.
Didn’t Abreu have an oblique thing in 2007?
TL,
Nice! Do lineups go up after BP?
“If Jeter goes on the DL, bring up Eduardo Nunez”
He’s gotten better but he’s not ready.”
Pena will be the shortstop. They need a backup IF and don’t trust Berroa, I would look at Russo. He can play the IF and OF.
Since he was in the original lineup and then scratched you would think it happened during batting practice.
Pedroia strained a groin the other day and he’s 25. Injuries happen.
What makes you think it happened today? For all we know, it could have been something he’s been struggling with for awhile.
Its not like the Yankees are forthcoming when it comes to injury reports.
Either way, that’s an injury you can’t rush. If you do and it pops, that’s 6 weeks.
Hopefully, he’s out for 3 days and he’s back for the Twins series.
GreenBeret7:
Oh, I seem to remember that now. My fault, I suppose, for not following the marginals in Scranton. The only one there who’s of much interest is Austin. Russo hasn’t gotten into a game since May 8. Rodriguez is a Duncan clone.
So who do these people want from the Scranton roster that I’m missing? Boog Powell? Ron Cey? Dave Kingman?
Pretty soon we’re going to have a hybrid Scranton/Bronx team. Which might not be a bad thing.
While we’re on the subject of aging Yankees: Matsui could go down any day; who knows how A-Rod will fare over the course of playing every day; and Damon is no guarantee to stay injury-free.
*”TL1125 May 12th, 2009 at 5:15 pm
It cant be that bad if he was in the original line-up and then was scrathed.”*
Truefax, TL.
When they say oblique pull or oblique tear, I think they may that it is little microscopic tears in the muscle fiber of the abdominal wall. I dont know how long it will take jeter to get back but Im pretty sure its just about resting until it heals up. I guess it depends how bad the tearing is and how fast jeter heals. Did they say how this happened at all?
NYY doesn’t need an outfielder right now, which means that Linden, Rodriguez or Miranda’s not going to help very much at the infield spots.
Don’t know about Miranda. He’s looked OK a couple of times this year when I’ve seen him. Linden and Rodriguez are nothings, though. You don’t want to see 30 in MiLB unless you’re down on rehab. Sure, Linden went nuts in the PCL last year, but an AAAA power hitter is a Shelly Duncan in MLB. Lots of air and sudden inability to work count.
Why sit Jeter and not move Swisher into the starting line-up?
We’re really going to start Gardner, Cash, Melky and Pena all in one game against Halladay? MAKES ZERO SENSE. That combo of players will go 2-20.
Well, a pull sounds better than a strain which sounds better than a tear. Right, guys? Right?
I can’t believe a Yankees fan would be excited about a Jeter injury. Some of the people on here have no right being a Yankees fan.
Swisher can’t play shortstop.
Actually, he probably can.
Yea Injuries happen but we have had about ten already over the first month and a half. That is a bit much for any team. I really think this team gets injured far too often. They are not even really THAT old. All of the players that one might assume would get injured at the start of the season (matsui, damon, AJ, pettitte) are all fine and somehow, we have had about ten injuries so far – i dont get it.
Gotta be positive, Cliff. We’ll be better defensively and maybe even offensively, the way Jeter was hitting. The man’s getting old.
Maybe thats the reason Berroa was never DFA’d?
“NYY doesn’t need an outfielder right now, which means that Linden, Rodriguez or Miranda’s not going to help very much at the infield spots.”
If Jeter is really hurt, that changes the equation. But if he’s day to day, the Yanks don’t need 2 back-up infielders, one of whom never seems to play. They do need better pinch hitters, to bat for Cervelli/Cash. That’s where Linden/JRod/Miranda fit in, not as extra outfielders (although a swap for Gardner isn’t completely ludicrous).
“So who do these people want from the Scranton roster that I’m missing? Boog Powell? Ron Cey? Dave Kingman?”
john_halfz, you must be as ancient as GB7.
First of all, he could play shortstop. That wasn’t what I was suggesting, though. I was talking about sitting Gardner.
IMO, Francesa is a very very good listen once you can get by all of his personal quirks. And, I have found that one either likes him or detests him with few in between.
as i said before the aging30 yr old youkilis pulled or strainde an oblique, the aging pedroia 25, tweeked his hammy and the aging ellsbury tweeked a hammy or quad.
these blanket statements about yankee injuries because they are old are just bulls-it. wang is 28, bruney is 27, nady is 29,etc…that is just drivel think for your selves people………….
the old guys are ; mo, pettitte, and posada…..
Hey, Wave Your Hat. Don’t know if you’ve noticed, but we’re down Posada and Molina. It would be INSANE at this point to clear Cash or Cervelli and leave the team with no backup catcher. Maybe when Jorge comes back and shows he’s healthy you’ll have a case.
OK so I am almost positive that a strain is a broad term to basically desribe most any abnormal muscle stretching that leads to injury while a tear is a type of muscle strain that is worse in severity because it implies that the muscle fibers have been torn apart. So a tear would be a more severe type of muscle strain.
bryan hoch:Jeter out of lineup with right oblique injury. Girardi thinks he’ll need another day.
Good thing it doesn’t seem serious.
Sheesh – another injury? Unbelievable – not a day goes by. How bad is an oblique pull/tear/whatever? I can’t believe this…..
the yankees need to bring up an additional OF and either send down an arm or berroa… how many pitchers and bad pitchers do they need on the 25 man roster?????
I can’t believe a Yankees fan would be excited about a Jeter injury. Some of the people on here have no right being a Yankees fan.
If you are referring to my post Cliff I am definitely not happy with Jeter being out. However what I was trying to get at was that lately his slugging has been down and this could explain it. Therefore if he’s not right, its best for him to take a few days off. In the meantime I’m curious to see how well Pena and his slick fielding can do at short. There are enough bats in this lineup who should be able to step up and carry the load.
And if this injury plague hasn’t gotten to the point of ridiculous yet, it officially has today.
This team is unbelievable….its almost daily that somebody goes down.
Give him two or three days, whatever he needs – give Jeter an extra day – we can’t afford to lose him for an extended period of time
Tear and Pull same thing — as strain/sprain
Muscles get strained and are graded:
1st degree- microtear
2nd degree- macrotear
3rd degree- rupture
Minka must have made jeets get on top this time.
john_halfz,
Uh, in your time capsule you may not have noticed, but nowadays teams pinch hit late in games for catchers all the time. In the old days, back when Boog Powell and Ron Cey played, teams used to worry about it, that’s why they carried 3 catchers.
But the game has moved on. I think you need to catch up.
stuart a
May 12th, 2009 at 5:28 pm
the yankees need to bring up an additional OF and either send down an arm or berroa… how many pitchers and bad pitchers do they need on the 25 man roster?????
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That makes sense. Jeter’s down for a few days and the Yanks should play without a backup infielder.
I was referring to this
carl
May 12th, 2009 at 5:06 pm
Defense up the middle yes!
Agree that if he is not right he needs to take a few days off, just don’t understand how a Yanks fan could say “yes!” to a Jeter injury
muscle pull and muscle strain I think are pretty much interchangeable. And since most every strain of the muscle involves a tear in order to be considered an actual injury, the three words are used almost as synonyms.
I’m not expecting much of anything against Halladay tonight – it stinks that he’s pitching the first game because the Yankees really need to start beating teams in their division. I just want AJ to pitch well – if he pitches well, that’s all we can ask.
Considering that Teix and A-Rod are not swinging the bat well, combined with Gardner-Cash-Melky-Pena and this offense is going to be brutal
AJ better be prepared to pitch a shut out
Girardi already said that Arod will DH one of these games. Probably the last 1 against the lefty. So you are looking at Pena and Berroa on the left side of the infield..Ouch
unfortunately for a baseball player, the obliques are an important muscle group, they help with torso rotation. SO they effect batting and throwing. Jeets isnt exactly a spring chicken – for most athletes who arent rotators – its a one week injury – for athletes who rotate a lot – could be a 2 – 4 week thing – depending on how bad the original injury is.
pull=strain and both of them lead to various levels of tearing in order to cause an injury. So despite the fact that pull sounds the least ominous while tear sounds the most ominous, it really depends on how bad he tore the muscle fibers which none of those words above describe.
Yankees will rush Jeter back like they did to Tex, A-Rod, etc.
The old Yankees would be conservative with injuries, not this current team
UPDATE, 5:28 p.m.: Bruney will throw off the mound tomorrow. … Posada is in Florida amping up his rehab. … Brian Cashman is en route to Scranton to see Wang.
Jeter’s injury may change Girardi’s plan on DH’ing Alex.
Alex himself will insist on doing whatever’s needed.
Drain003
May 12th, 2009 at 5:34 pm
Yankees will rush Jeter back like they did to Tex, A-Rod, etc.
The old Yankees would be conservative with injuries, not this current team
The old yankees would be conservative with injuries? Please explain
Murders row tonight against Harry the best pitcher in the AL. I feel bad for Burnett he knows anything other then 7 innings and 2 runs is most likely a loss.
Hey, Wave Your Hat. First of all, I’m not nearly as old as you think. Second of all, we have TWO catchers, not three. Both Molina and Posada are on the DL. When they’re both well, it’s appropriate to carry them and them only. Teams might not worry about catcher depth nowadays (and indeed, it’s an acceptable risk for a hitter of Posada’s stature to pinch hit, though preferably not for Molina directly). But substitutions are generally made today in the way I’ve described. Not one-for-one substitutions. Molina is pinch hit for by someone else. Or Posada pinch hits for a different lesser hitter. That might be a subtlety you’ve missed.
Anyway, the Yankees’ current predicament illustrates the wisdom of taking extra caution with catchers.
SNY just did a segment on who they would rather have on the mound, Burnett or Halladay
LOL. Yeah, people are going to choose the erratic hard thrower with a 3.81 career ERA over the best Right hander in the game
Jeez. I try to avoid the blog and get some work done today and I come back to check in and see Jeter out?
Ugh.
I’m getting the feeling this is either going to go down as “one of those seasons” in a negative head shaking sense or it’s going to go down as “ONE OF THOSE SEASONS” in the all time classic Yankee team sense.
If Jeter hits the DL (in addition to everyone else who has) and they come back from this and the opposition can’t pull far enough away to bury them, this will be a very special team.
Has Harry thrown a no hitter before?
If not, tonight is the best opportunity he will ever have
I wouldn’t be so quick to write this game off – you never know – you know?
Teixeira is indeed coming around. Five XBH in 36 AB in May after 6 in 70 in April. You’d like a little more OBP to be supplied by average, but they’ll start to fall in. He started to put some pretty good swings on balls in Baltimore.
Im starting to get the feeling that at no point this season will this team all be healthy,
I’m looking for Tex to go deep tonight.. call me crazy, but you heard it hear first.
Swisher can’t play shortstop.
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Swish can probably play short today better than Berroa. Pena will be fine.
Knowing the Yankees luck the offense will actually get lucky and score like 5 runs but Burnett will give up the same amount. Burnett said he was nervous in spring training facing the Jays and didn’t have good command. I can imagine this game.
There is no way Arod is playing 3 straight days at third on turf, regardless of Jeter’s situation.
Ramiro Pena can play SS for 3 days. After that, you see how Jeter is doing and make a call, DL or not.
Everybody has injuries this year. Look at DL’s of teams all over baseball. You just have to play through them and find a way to win series.
Its all you can do.
Thank God there are 130 more games to play after tonight.
Blackout
May 12th, 2009 at 5:38 pm
Has Harry thrown a no hitter before?
If not, tonight is the best opportunity he will ever have
Really? His best chance at throwing a no-hitter is against a team with Damon, Teix, Arod, Matusi and Cano in the line up? Makes sense to me
john_halfz-
I guess I need to spell it out. We have two catchers, Cervelli and Cash. We need them both, because you need two catchers. Unfortunately, neither promises to be a good hitter. Therefore, late in games, when the Yanks are trailing by a small margin or when the game is tied, it would be useful to have a player on the bench who was a better hitter than whichever of Cervelli or Cash was in the game. I personally believe Linden, Miranda and JRod are all better hitters than Cervelli or Cash (and Berroa for that matter). So one of them could pinch hit,m and then the other of Cervelli or Cash could complete the game.
It’s not rocket science.
Halladay did the smart thing by not answering questions about Burnett until after the game tonight
He is going to be locked in tonight and facing our AAA lineup should only help
Tough task for AJ who has proven that when he has nerves, he doesn’t pitch well. This Toronto offense is clicking very well. He needs to be on top of his game.
This injury run is much like the injury run NYY had in 1978. They were hit hard in the first part of the season. Suddenly, it was like making a series of huge mid-season trades when the walking wounded returned. They are all returning at nearly the same time.
Watching Brett Gardner lead off is soul crushing
Also, Wave Your Hat, there might be somewhat of a misunderstanding. I thought you were objecting to Cash and Cervelli being on the team actively. I do (because I don’t like watching them), but there’s no way around it. As for PHing for them, I guess you want Berroa gone. Then it really just goes back to putting Linden or Miranda or Rodriguez on the big club in their stead…which doesn’t solve the infielder problem. And at least two of those guys are classic AAAA hitters a la Linden.
According to @jimbaumbach, Girardi learned of Jeter’s injury on _Saturday_
AJ does not have time to control his nerves and be too amped up
He must come out of the gate throwing strikes and putting up 0s
Biggest game for the Yankees tonight is still in Scranton.
If Wang is Wang again, that’s huge.
That’s a much more important game for this season for the Yankees than tonight against Halliday.
They can lose tonight and survive quite nicely.
They can’t afford to have Wang out much longer. They need his innings, his success and his stability in that rotation.
*# Aunt Becca-Optimist Prime May 12th, 2009 at 5:43 pm
According to @jimbaumbach, Girardi learned of Jeter’s injury on Saturday*
If that’s true, Girardi should be fired.
“I personally believe Linden, Miranda and JRod are all better hitters than Cervelli or Cash (and Berroa for that matter).”
Well, yeah, dude, I’m a retard. I guess I had trouble parsing it. Of course, I agree that I’d love to PH for either of those catchers all the time ASAP. I mistook that desire for your saying that you don’t want to carry both (which, of course, you didn’t). My point remains, though, that neither Linden or Rodriguez is a better hitter than Berroa insofar as neither of the three can contribute anything (though Rodriguez may be slightly more likely to have a Duncan-esque flash in the pan run). Miranda might be, but you probably still want him going every day in Scranton. The weakest link on the entire active roster isn’t Berroa, though. It’s the guy who’s actually hitting leadoff for the starting 9 tonight.
Um…
Why is our worst hitter getting the most ABs tonight?
“Call me a dreamer, but yes I think Linden, J Rodriguez or Miranda would all hit better than Berroa.”
More to the point given the injuries on the team all three of those players are likely better hitters than Gardner.
I don’t see the value Gardner brings to this team as a bench player when there are so many holes in the line up and so many players who you’d want to pinch hit for late in a game.
The fact that Gardner has pinch hit even once this season speaks volumes for how skewed the roster is and the disproportionate “trust” being shown to Gardner.
This team doesn’t have the luxury of a pinch runner/ defensive replacement outfielder.
They need a player off the bench who could pinch hit for the catcher and/or pena/berroa much more.
If Gardner isn’t going to start then he should be in AAA and they should bring up a better hitter in his place.
Sweeny Murti on WFAN: Jeter looks to be back there tomorrow.
Everyone can calm the hell down now.
“And at least two of those guys are classic AAAA hitters a la Linden.”
Well, you may be right as to their level, but at this point what is Berroa? And Girardi doesn’t seem to want to play Berroa anyway.
That said, the Jeter injury does come into the equation. The discussion started before Jeter got pulled from the lineup. If Jeter can’t play for a while, then I guess you have to consider what you need to do. But Damon could get hurt tomorrow and you have the same issue in the OF.
Personally, I’d go with one backup IF (Pena, who’s playing for a day or two), one back-up OF (Gardner, Linden or JRod), one bat off the bench (JRod, Linden or Miranda), and one back-up catcher.
This is funny..From jimbaumbach’s twitter
Awesome day but SkyDome roof closed. Yankee players figured it was Halladay’s request but actually a mechanical issue. They can’t open it.
Ugly ballpark and now they can’t figure out how to open a roof.
Our first “Fire Girardi” post! I hour and 20 minutes prior to gametime!
You my friend may have set a LoHud record with that deeply informative and convincing post.
Once the Panicked Patsies come in here, that’s my out cue to say sayonara for the evening.
The posts just go downhill from here once we have the “Fire Girardi” crowd enter the game threads.
I’ll be watching Wang’s start.
Have a good night all.
CB -
i believe gardner as pinch hit 3 times this season. once against baltimore and twice against boston.
Zak,
Which is it? Should we calm down or should Girardi be fired?
SJ44,
You obviously don’t know my sense of humor. I was merely kidding.
CB and john_halfz,
I’m cool with replacing Gardner.
But assuming Jeter is not seriously hurt, I still don’t see the point of two back-up infielders.
lol, m, we should all calm down, honestly.
Once again, just kidding. Guess I should have noted that, lol.
CB:
Thanks. That’s totally accurate. Berroa is really bad. But Gardner is really a much bigger problem. I’d have much less problem calling up duds like Linden or Rodriguez to replace him. I know it’s a classic case of SSS, but it’s not really Melky’s fault that he’s had such a hot run to displace him. Still, Brett has 75 PA that don’t look any better than last year’s. And he’s clearly the most lost hitter on the team (besides probably Cash, who can’t be jettisoned yet). That’s saying a lot with Berroa being there, but mine eyes have seen the glory of a man who was BLOWN AWAY by a Matt Palmer fastball.
Is Justin Chambermaid to afraid to pitch in Toronto. Too bad we always hit that guy. Maybe he is not allowed to come into Canada because of his DUI’s or because his mother is a crack whore. Shrug. Oh well, we’ll just have to get him next time.
actually gardner has hit PH 4 times.
4 4 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 1 1 0 .250 .250.250 .500
At least we will get to see a SS who has range in the game tonight.
Vote Jeter for LF in 2010!
Marco Scuetero leads the AL in walks with 29
Rod Barajas is hitting .319
Zak,
If that’s the case, seriously, I apologize.
That said, you have set off a tidal wave of “converts” with that post! lol
Be ready for the Panicked Patsies to adopt you as “one of their own”1
If the Yankees play Jeter tomorrow, they’re idiots. Give him 2 more days off to be sure – they used to do this all the time, but lately they have rushed players – it makes me feel very uncomfortable.
If Joe knew about this since Saturday, then that really inches him closer to the door. HIs desperation to win is getting scary.
The Yankees will win tonight.
Wave Your Hat:
I’d therefore prefer to wait until at least the Minnesota series to make these hypothetical moves. Because if Jeter doesn’t play this week, you can’t move Berroa, either.
Please. Girardi isin’t close to getting fired– he isin’t “inching closer” to anything. Just stop.
“i believe gardner as pinch hit 3 times this season. once against baltimore and twice against boston.”
3 times too many. Of all players in the AL with at least 60 at bats this season Gardner has the 14th lowest OPS. In all of baseball he has the 24th worst OPS of any player with at least 60 at bats.
He’s been dismal at the plate this year.
He’s the classic guy you pinch hit for. Not pinch hit with.
He’s adding very little value to the team and with the roster crunched with injuries his skill set is a complete luxury that the team cannot afford.
If you send down Gardner instead of DFA’ing Berroa, you are back to the 40 man roster problem.
If Gardner goes down, you could only bring up Miranda without making another 40 man move. Swapping Miranda for Gardner won’t work, we’d only have 3 OFs.
That’s why I was focusing on Berroa – if the Yanks DFA’d him they’d have a lot more options, I think.
I am on my way to the Scranton game to watch Wang pitch. I will have some updates later in the evening.
Toronto Blue Jay trolls are hilarious. As if their club will be relevant past the all-star break
SJ44,
I’ll stand pat, away from the.. well. pat.. sies. lol
It’s okay, though. I probably should’ve put a =P or something after that comment.
well Sweeny Murti just said jeter expects to be in the lineup tmrw. Jeter first felt it during the weekend but it wasn’t that bad so he played sunday but he was feeling it today so Girardi figured to give him an extra day rest
why isnt swisher playing?? they could use his bat in with jeter out…
Are any of those Scranton OF candidates on the 40 roster? A lot of things are hinging on Alex’s hip. Once that’s settled and Jeter’s healthy, Berroa can be, uh, assigned.
The desperation to win comes from the top and trickles down to the rest of the team. As far as they are concerned, Girardi is just following orders.
Jeter said he expects to be in the lineup tomorrow… and Girardi is inching closer to being fired? Hilarious.
I thought these posts only come once the game starts.
Lauren,
Thanks in advance.
“Marco Scuetero leads the AL in walks with 29
Rod Barajas is hitting .319″
Classic case of a team that won’t stick around. Their staff is nice. But this lineup is a textbook example of a small sample size error. Scutaro’s BB rate is a total anomaly given the patience and selectivity he’s demonstrated in 2100 prior MLB AB.
Wasn’t Baltimore in first place much later than this in 2005 or 2006? Can’t remember which, but do remember listening to Jim Palmer broadcast an annihilation which set the tone for a dismal final 90 games or so. Toronto is a better ballclub than that, but they won’t hit nearly enough to win in the long term.
That line-up is pretty terrible. Against Halladay this has no runs 2 hits written all over it.
LOL, i wasnt disputing how bad he is… Why the guy doesnt drop a bunt down everytime he’s up there i dont know, but he certianly has the speed to beat it out. Or at least fake the bunt and slap it somewhere…
Wave Your Hat:
Fine, but you can’t make the move with Beroa until A-Rod and Jeter are shown to be healthy (iffy for now). This means the “urgent” changes needed cannot be made now by reason of “act of God.”
Oops, just kidding….lol. Seriously, I reacted that way out of worry for Jeter – these injuries are making me touchy. That said, why was Jeter playing if Joe knew about the injury?
I agree that Wang’s start is the most important start tonight…..though I think it’s equally important that AJ pitch well. He’s been solid thus far, but we need him to get on a roll. He’s going to be heavily booed tonight – hopefully that won’t bother him. I also hope he’s not put too much emphasis on facing his buddy – this start seems to mean a lot to him. By the way, where is Halladay from? He’s not Canadian, is he?
“But assuming Jeter is not seriously hurt, I still don’t see the point of two back-up infielders.”
I agree. They’re most likely waiting to see if alex’s hip is ok and when they get that sense they’ll likely dfa berroa.
But there’s no reason to carry both pena and berroa long term.
That said, the roster is a mess and there always seems to be some mystifying reason as to why they contort it in the way that they do.
Gardner needs to bunt in every AB
Get on 1st, steal 2nd, steal 3rd, and hope Teix hits a sac fly.
One final point. Halladay is fantastic, but let’s not put him in the unhittable pantheon yet. Prior to his last start (excellent) against LAA, he’d put up a 4.50 ERA over his previous 3 starts, allowing 26 H in 22 IP. His control is as good as ever (which is really the reason he’s so effective), but this is the kind of game the Yankees have won on many occasions in the past…with compromised lineups.
Stop being babies!
If you rest a starter for every time they are a little nicked up, then the starters will play 20 games this season.
They will never be 100% healthy. Jeter knows what he can and can’t play through. He is probably ticked off at Joe for giving him today off as it is
john_halfz-
I think I agreed earlier the Jeter oblique pull changed the equation, at least until we see how he’s doing.
But you’re right it is all hypothetical – I don’t think the Yanks are going to move either Berroa or Gardner.
I am not ready to give up on gardner not even close…
they yanks could pinch hit for him if they had a bench.
Betsy, i am confident girardi would not play jeter unless he was healthy enough to play.ie Mo 1 inning about a week ago….
Halladay is from Denver.
yes jeter isnt playing shortstop….THERE IS A GOD
My guess this muscle deal with jetes in not new. He has looked awkward at the plate. That type of strain would do that. Maybe girardi feels having one day off already, may be a good time to give cap a day or three.
Awesome day but SkyDome roof closed. Yankee players figured it was Halladay’s request but actually a mechanical issue. They can’t open it.
Ugly ballpark and now they can’t figure out how to open a roof.
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Remember when Skydome was the ballpark of the future?
john_haifz they cannot stop being babies. they want there top lineup everynight. they think it is unfathomable to score 4 or 5 runs without a overpriced former superstar in every slot in the batting order..
god forbid one night the yanks claw and run and situational hit there way to 4 or 5 runs…
SJ44 May 12th, 2009 at 4:12 pm
That’s the post! lol
Next, we should have a contest to match the posters with the comments because, depending how it goes tonight, you KNOW those comments will be written by someone in here. Winner gets seats to a game.
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I’m up for that. I’ll even do it just for the sheer fun of it – no reward necessary.
I’ve already cut and pasted the post for reference.
Stuart a:
Are you ready to give up yet on Andy Stankewicz, then? Kevin Maas? Shane Spencer?
Because all of those guys at least showed something before they showed that they couldn’t really hack it. Brett Gardner’s plate approach and inability just to stay in ABs and on pitches demonstrates he’s not MLB material at this point. He looks terrible and late against any FB over 86 MPH. He elevates balls but he swings with his arms so he can’t drive them more than 300 feet. et cetera…
Jennifer here’s the Damon Howard Stern interview. You have to scroll down a bit. Pretty funny
http://www.marksfriggin.com/news.htm
Well, Stuart. We agree on one thing, at least!
AJ doesn’t have to pitch well. Because even if he does, it isin’t an indication of anything.
He has a 3.81 career ERA for a reason. He’s going to have games like he did against Tampa, and games like he had against Boston. A lot of inbetween starts like 6-7 IP/ 3-4 ERs. His entire career has been inconsistent. Even in his brilliant 2nd half last year, he had a 3.86 ERA in July and a 4.43 ERA in August.
AJ isin’t like Halladay or CC who can carry teams and is expected to pitch like an ace everytime he takes the mound and can do it for long stretches. He is a guy you expect to get quality starts from in the #3 spot, not sheer dominance.
The Blue Jays are 73-49 under Cito Gaston since he took over last manager last June 20.
…………..
This may be the most swagger the Yankees have seen from a Jays team in a considerable amount of time. Right now, they’re the hunted.
Why isn’t Swish in the lineup? I thought i wouldn’t have to see Gardner in there for a while.
john_halfz we probably agree on many things you just do not like my punctuation and tone on my posts.
most lineups except the giants should be able to get at least 3 runs every night unless the pitcher is a stud and on his game big time.. the bernie dynasty yanks won many a game with sojo, chad curtis, girardi, and other weak hitters in the lineup. it actually can happen. they need tex and the other multi millionaires to play better…
Burnett pitching well and losing a 2-1 game does nothing for us
A loss is a loss. Infact, you hate to waste brilliant games like that because you know those are not common for AJ (despite his great stuff).
“The Blue Jays are 73-49 under Cito Gaston since he took over last manager last June 20.”
Proof that firing a manager CAN work. Hope Hal keeps that in mind when we’re sputtering on Memorial Day under Girardi
swisher is not in the lineup for many reasons 1 being he has stunk the last 4 or 5 games if you read his recent stats.. swisher is not lou gehrig or mattingly he can get a day off here and there and the yanks should survive his lifetime 250 BA ….
“One final point. Halladay is fantastic, but let’s not put him in the unhittable pantheon yet.”
Best pitcher in baseball right now. Don’t know if that puts him in the pantheon per se but he’s the top starter in baseball and has been so for the past several seasons.
His combination of stuff, control, and ability to go deep into games is a very rare combination in the modern game. He’s the complete package. As good as there is. He has command of a 5 pitch arsenal, mixes his pitches well and can throw pitches that give lefty hitters and righties completely different looks.
He’s an extreme ground ball pitcher so there will be some clusters in which he might give up more hits than expected as ground balls get through the infield by random chance.
But he misses a lot of bats, doesn’t walk anyone, gives up very few home runs, generates a ton of ground balls all while being extremely efficient.
It’s very difficult to be nasty and efficient at the same time. But that’s Halladay.
“Maybe girardi feels having one day off already, may be a good time to give cap a day or three.”
That’s what Sweeney reported on the FAN a little while ago. The Yanks finished playing Sunday afternoon and by giving Derek off tonight, he will have almost 3 days off by tomorrow night.
Wah! Wah! Wah! Gardner’s starting his first game in weeks. Get over it.
Who cares what Burnett does tonight?
Anything short of a 8 IP, 1 run won’t cut it. Not with this lineup. A-Rod/Teix looking lost at the plate along with Cash, Melky, Gardner, Pena, Cabrera?
Just intentionally walk Damon and Doc should be in good shape.
YES should have a pre and post game today for the epic Burnett/Halladay matchup
Even if we win, we don’t get to hear from AJ. All we see is Russ Salzberg reading some e-mails from fans.
Is there a way to follow the game in Scranton online? Is there are radio feed or something comparable to Gameday available?
why isnt there a YES pre game? there is usually a pre game even if the match is on my9
chambliss: gameday
http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/gameday.....a_swbaaa_1
chablis: milb.com
Blackout, it sucks to have to face Halladay – most teams will lose to him – but what are you going to do? I happen to think AJ will be a different pitcher this year, but there’s no point in debating that as we will find out soon enough. I disagree that if he pitches well it doesn’t mean anything….
7 Up, thanks!
JP was on with Mike (only caught part of it) and the gist was that even had the Jays been bad, they wouldn’t trade Roy. I’m glad – I know he’s in our division, but a player like that should stay with one team his whole career. I suspect he will re-sign with Toronto when he becomes a FA. It’s hard to believe he’s already 33 – I remember when he pitched a no-hitter in his first or second start. Then, the next year, he had to be sent down because he was struggling terribly
I know this is the game thread, but my head is still steaming from the Lonn Trost thing so I am reposting here w/ apologies:
THIS close to saying goodbye to the New York Yankees, after thirty-plus years of fandom.
I just can’t handle it anymore. I only have two hands — holding my nose and plugging my ears was tough enough. Now I’m expected to cover my eyes, too?
Congratulations Mssrs. Trost and Levine — you are squandering away a generation of young fans-to-be, and in the long run lots of money to boot.
Take your moat and stick it where the Mohegan Sun Bar don’t shine.
Halladay is a finesse pitcher with power
Hits his spot, gets ground balls, impeccable control, uses 4-5 pitches, works quick… but he has the ability to get a strikeout whenever he needs it.
Gates, the game is on My9 – unfortunately
Before the posts get too negative…
Don’t know if this has appeared anywhere today, if so, apologies:
Happy Birthday to Yogi Berra, born May 12, 1925. 84 years young.
http://www.thegame-radio.com/listen/
Chambliss free Radio
“Halladay is a finesse pitcher with power
Hits his spot, gets ground balls, impeccable control, uses 4-5 pitches, works quick… but he has the ability to get a strikeout whenever he needs it.”
That scouting report sounds identical to what they said about Hughes in 2006 when he dominated AA (with the exception of using 4 pitches).
“He’s an extreme ground ball pitcher so there will be some clusters in which he might give up more hits than expected as ground balls get through the infield by random chance.”
I would think he’d be even better if he didn’t have to pitch in Toronto on field turf and played most of his games on grass.
By John Schlegel / MLB.com
05/12/09 5:53 PM ET
Derek Jeter was out of the Yankees’ lineup for Tuesday’s game against the Blue Jays with a sore right oblique, marking the first time this season the All-Star shortstop was not on manager Joe Girardi’s lineup card.
Jeter said the strain was bothering him over the weekend, and Girardi was “hopeful” he would play Wednesday. Ramiro Pena took the start at shortstop against Toronto at Rogers Centre, with center fielder Brett Gardner taking over the leadoff spot.
“I’m a little sore right now,” Jeter said. “Obviously, I’m not in the lineup, but I hope to be in there tomorrow.”
Jeter, who has played 150 games or more in each of the past five seasons, had started at shortstop for each of the New York’s first 31 games this season.
http://mlb.mlb.com/news/articl.....8;c_id=mlb
On the way to Wang’s start in Scranton… Hope I’m happy
Burnett had an extra day of rest too and had a whole off-day in Toronto to be reminded of the past 3 years.
Ugh. I wish we played in Baltimore yesterday night and had to fly to Toronto for tonight. That way there would be little time for him to think about his surroundings.
4-2 Yanks.
Matsui HR.
Why wait til end of game.
You can congratulate me on my predictions later.
Considering that A-Rod is not going to play on turf every day in this series, and if Jeter needs an extra day off, we could be looking at
Gardner CF
Damon LF
Teixeria 1B
A-Rod DH
Cano C
Cabrera RF
Berroa 3B
Pena SS
Cervelli C
tomorrow
Well, I haven’t written off today’s game as an automatic loss. Let’s see what happens, we might even win.
Good luck to Wang today. Hope he has a good outing.
Swisher is in a slump right now and all he is doing is walking
And against Halladay, he isin’t going to walk. He is just going to feed him cutters and changeups on the corner and get him out easily.
Gardner atleast can slap the ball on the ground and try and get some infield singles
http://philjhughes.blogspot.com/
great new yankee blog!
Hughes really needs to watch Doc tonight. His style of pitching probably resembles Hughes the most, atleast back in 06 like the guy above said.
Halladay too was a mid 90s FB with movement and curvrball guy. He also has excellent control and can move the ball all over the plate like Hughes was supposed to be. Halladay has also incorporated a cutter into a prominent pitch for him, like Hughes has. He is also a groundball machine and can get a big K whenever he needs it (like Hughes).
I think watching Doc tonight will help Phil. His style helps more than Burnett, Mussina, Clemens, CC etc.
thanks for the haircut pic
I like the old look better!!
lol swisher is hilarious
lol i love the new haircut swish
That’s some haircut. Haha. Thanks for the pic Pete
john_halfz
Halladay is a great pitcher. Check his stats against the Yanks.
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AJ will have to shut out the Jays for this line-up to win.
I’m glad Nick likes it, but I’d guess he’s taken some teasing about that new cut.
If he shaved the back of his head too, that cut wouldn’t actually look that bad.
Heck, Swisher probably got that haircut just to amuse his teammates. That’s the type of guy he is lol
My9 coverage is atrocious, whether it is the washed-out color of the video, or the guy they have on for the post-game wrap up. Just awful.
If Burnett doesn’t pitch well, he will have more Yankee “fans” like in Baltimore who heckle him about his performance/contract while he signs autographs……..
This is going to be an awful night all the way around. Hopefully AJ pitches a perfect game to prove me wrong.
I like the new hair cut. Really he looks much better.
Not a fan of the long hair.
I remember I had him on a fantasy team a couple of years back and whenever I played him his picture would appear in the lineup and I thought this guy just looks like a moron.
See Maglio Ordonez for another guy who needs a cut.
Pedro too.
Just let your soul glow there fellas.
“His style of pitching probably resembles Hughes the most, atleast back in 06 like the guy above said.”
What is it with the legend of Phil Hughes 2006? Hughes had a great AA season. That’s it.
He’s not even remotely reminiscent of Halladay – then or now.
Hughes has been a two pitch pitcher until he added a cutter that he’s still developing. In 2006 he was a strictly two pitch pitcher – 4 seam fastball and curveball. And in AA that was enough.
Halladay is a 5 pitch pitcher. How is that even vaguely a model for Hughes?
Halladay’s bread and butter is that vicious power two seam fastball that drops like a bowling ball. Hughes doesn’t even throw a power sinker.
Hughes’s biggest problem right now is probably the fact that he’s having a lot of trouble with left handed hitters. He’s got no out pitch against them.
Halladay’s combination of tailing two seamer and cutter allows him to neutralize both left handed and right handed hitters. On top of that he throws a good change up that tails away from left handed hitters.
That Hughes isn’t even remotely the pitcher Halladay doesn’t say much about Hughes. There isn’t a pitcher in baseball like Halladay. What it does speak to is how out of line people’s expectations are for what Hughes is as a pitcher based off his minor league statistics and dubious scouting reports.
It makes sense that Swisher isn’t in the lineup today, what with that lawnmower incident, and all.
The audio on MY9 is horrible…
Does anyone know what channel it is on for Time Warner Cable upstate?
Another ‘batter mocking pitcher’s gesture’ controversy:
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/bl.....mlb,162567
I think the Yanks will CRUSH the jays tonight, mark it down
Wang two ground balls 1 fly ball.
Stupid UPN, the HD feed doesn’t even work
That sucks
Wang with a 5 pitch 1st inning.
wow 6 pitches…hes goin the distance tonight no matter teh score
Someone please bring the umpire his glasses he forgot them in the clubhouse…
6 pitches inning over??
Halladay is so good I can’t even really be mad if he shuts us down.
that might be one of the fastest innings all year
I don’t understand why TOR fans are booing AJ for taking the money. If any of them were in the same position, they would have done the same thing.
man how much longer can halliday be the gold standard in the AL, the guy even if hes lost a few miles on his fastball his stuff and poise are just so good
It took four looks on replay and only on the last slo-mo could you tell whether Damon was safe or out. It was wrong not there wasn’t a chance in Hell of knowing without the slo-mo replay.
dam 97 mph…AJ wants to win this one baddd
Only in Toronto can Scutaro be on fire and a lead off hitter. If he was on the Yanks he would be hitting .200.
I don’t know about that, Laura. Folks up in Canadia tend to me more communitarian. What’s good for Toronto embigguns us all.
man if AJ had another pitch like a changeup or somethin..he would be even better..thats y halliday is so good hes got like 4 pitches he can throw for strikes
Andy Philips is killing it in Charlotte, but CM Wang wins the first battle.
what pitches does AJ have anyway besides his 4 seemer and curve
Nice inning AJ
Vin, 2 seamer and a change up
Blackout
May 12th, 2009 at 5:38 pm
Has Harry thrown a no hitter before?
If not, tonight is the best opportunity he will ever have
Good call pal
Yanks don’t do no-hitters
“what pitches does AJ have anyway besides his 4 seemer and curve”
He has a very good two seamer which he’ll use against lefties.
He also has a very good change up that he just won’t use that much.
He’s got the pitches. He just doesn’t use them.
Wang is looking great. He’s keeping the ball down. I don’t know about the velocity though.
Nice first inning for A.J. and a wonderful opportunity beckons for him tonight.
He can show the Toronto fans exactly how much that they should miss him and provide his former team with the same treatment that he used to give the Yankees.
We could be in for a great duel tonight.
CMW at Scranton so far so good.
2 IP, no hits, 3 GO, 2 FO, and one K.
No wonder why Harry always has a low pitch count. He doesn’t waste many pitches and he gets like 2 or 3 pitch outs.
Roy. Take it easy on us please
Swish’s cut is cool. Love it.
I guess Pete told him all the people on the blog wanted to see it.
This has 3 hit shutout on 87 pitches written all over it.
its almost like theres no point to try and work deep counts because you’ll be 0-2 before you know it…hopefully aj can match him
3 hit shutout for AJ
I have no idea who is going to WIN but this could be a 2 hour game!
I hate facing Halladay, we never make him work, you have to take the borderline pitches against him or else u have no chance
No score in the Charleston game. Marshall is perfect in the first. 2 strikeouts.
you guys think that AJ is going to give up 3 hits?? no hits for the Jays, Yankees get one more hit but it’s a bomb – 1-0 final!! lol
“I don’t know about that, Laura. Folks up in Canadia tend to me more communitarian. ”
More reason for me never to move to Canada. LOL!
For Scranton, Wang is perfect through two innings. Jackson is 1-1 with a single.
“This has 3 hit shutout on 87 pitches written all over it.”
Look at the quality of Halladay’s pitches. Just remarkable. No other pitcher in the game has that kind of stuff and array of pitches.
The constand dilemma hitters face with Halladay is that he has tremendous stuff and at the same time won’t walk anyone.
So hitters will swing early in the count because if you fall behind in the count you are simply done.
On the flip side all of those early count swings allow Halladay to keep his pitch count down.
That’s the vicious cycle that makes Halladay so difficult to hit.
Whats up with AJ’s velocity? 89?!!
I guess that Citgo Gaston is proof that *sometimes*, it is the manager’s fault that the team is losing.
GB the radio delay here is amazingly slow they just said AJ got a hit.
He was just at 96, maybe a glitch in the gun.
Noooooo Alex nooooooo
LOL here comes a run now…. Thanks Alex…. more pitches for Burnett as well… man i love it….
Oh darn it
Is that Ransom at 3B? LOL!
Alex told reporters that since the surgery, he’s felt his movement has been slower than usual. It’s going to take time for him to get back into the groove. I’d still rather have him there than anyone else.
Way to stay composed AJ.
Nice.
WOW well Pena just saved Alex a little stress. Nice slick play there
New Poll: Does Jeter makes that play or not? I’m listening on the internet radio so I figured I bring it up.
jeter wouldntve had that ball.
Pena is such a better defensive shortstop.
tishbi May 12th, 2009 at 7:30 pm
Whats up with AJ’s velocity? 89?!!
Im not sure which gun you are looking at but AJ is sitting at 95-97 on his 4-seamer….
fantastic comeback for aj..nice play pena
Jeter would have made that play
Why do the Jays have a red marijuanna leaf on their uniform?
lol Gookie Dawkins what a name.
You don’t realize what you’re missing at shortstop until you see someone make a play like that. With Jeter in, its 1-0 right now
Wang just struck out Gookie Dawkins!
Gotta love Pena’s defense.
You don’t realize what you’re missing at shortstop until you see someone make a play like that. With Jeter in, its 1-0 right now
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You’re serious? C’mon now….that was 3 steps to the right for Pena. That’s an easy play for even the worst shortstop.
How is AJ looking? I am watching the game on gamecast…
Do you think the Yankees have a chance at scoring against Doc tonight or is he looking dominant?
Wang is getting a lot oof swings and misses. I dont know if thats good or bad for him. I think the best sign for Wang would be a lot of GO’s.
1 more inning 2 K’s and a pop up.
Burnett keeps his cool, gets a ground ball, and it helps to have Pena’s glove behind you.
Being able to pick up your teammates after errors shows toughness and maturity as a pitcher.
Well if Wang keeps it up he will be pitching in the Majors soon.
I love how the TOR announcers already have TOR in the playoffs. Dudes, it’s May 12th!!!!! Let’s see where you are in September, okay?
Travis Sentell “Gookie” Dawkins wow I was gonna say. If Gookie was his real name I don’t know what I would say.
bottom of the lineup is just brutal.
I’d love to Halladay pitch in the playoffs, this man deserves that opportunity.
Everyone makes a big deal about Santana, but for my money, Halladay might be better.
Top first: Five-pitch first inning for Chien-Ming Wang.
1. After a first pitch strike, a weak groundout to the right side. Wang came off the mound to make the play and flip to first.
2. First pitch chop in front of the plate. Chris Stewart started the 2-3 putout.
3. After a called strike on a 93 mph sinker, Josh Kroeger flied out to deep center field.
The PNC Field stadium radar is usually pretty accurate, but it’s been spotty tonight (had one pitch in the 60s) so I’m not sure about that 93 reading. Could be accurate, I’m just not certain. Wang’s last fastball of the inning registered 90.
Top second: Ten pitches, five strikes in another 1-2-3 inning for Wang. His fastball was 89-90 this inning.
1. First pitch ball, then a groundout to third on a 90 mph fastball.
2. Full count that included some sliders. Got a strikeout on what looked like a changeup.
3. First pitch ball, then a flyout to left.
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“bottom of the lineup is just brutal.”
Not sure if you noticed, but the rest of the lineup didn’t do anything against him either.
Chad Jennings said that the radar gun at PNC field isn’t very reliable.
That said Jennings said that Wang’s fastball in his second inning of work was at 89-90.
If Wang is really throwing with that velocity than he’s still not that close to coming back.
The results aren’t all that critical for Wang. It’s how he’s throwing.
If his velocity still isn’t back he’ll need more work.
Halladay doesn’t fool around vs. our weak bats. But he’s not an unhittable pitching monster!
Im not sure which gun you are looking at but AJ is sitting at 95-97 on his 4-seamer….
Coach,the Jays telecast has him sitting at 88-91.
both games have only one hit Jackson and Damon
I will always remember the walk off Scutero hit off Mo when he was on the A’s. That was brutal
AJ average fastball 96 mph per Gameday.
Looks like Doc is just going to abuse the quadrent of Melky, Cash, Pena and Gardner tonight.
What in the world are those dolts from Canada chanting?
Maybe they’ll lose their voices by the 5th.
nice play by pat cash
Nice play cash
Just walked in from work and haven’t read a post yet but wanted to announce that as of this minute, *I AM OFFICIALLY UNEMPLOYED!*
Thanks, I needed to say that!
I am hoping that AJ, the pitcher I prayed we’d get and the same one on my Fantasy Team, gives me a nice unemployment present.
GO YANKEES!!!
Gotta divest my car of all of the packed boxes. See ya in a bit.
Trisha the jobless
Nice play by Cash!
“How is AJ looking? I am watching the game on gamecast… ”
Outstanding. The best he’s looked since that Tampa Bay game (though he did look good in boston for three innings…).
He’s throwing very easy and generating mid to upper 90′s velocity with overthrowing.
Most importantly he’s locating his fastball and getting his curve over for strikes.
AJ’s velocity is starting to climb on the Jays network. He is now sitting at 93-95.
AJ 37 pitches.
glad this game is going fast, because i have a final exam to study for
Nice play by Tex there!
Now let’s pounce on those 90 mph “heaters”.
Some Yankee coach needs to tell Melky that the slide into first just *hurt* Scutaro and that it’s still a bad idea.
Doris- It was a GS right?
Peter when an athlete leaves New York they do not care they just say don’t let the door hit you on your way out.
Back when when many ball players left New York for one reason or another maybe it was the press whatever. In Boston when you leave you are marked for life.
Top third: 12 pitches, eight strikes in another 1-2-3 inning. He was steady at 91 with his fastball, touched 92.
1. Ahead 0-2, threw three straight balls before getting a called strike three with a 92 mph fastball.
2. First pitch popup to short.
3. Four-pitch strikeout, swinging strike three on a 91 mph fastball.
Jennifer- I dont remember if it was a GS or a 3-run. i do remember there were 2 outs and I was watching from my couch in Seattle
burnett is DEALING…lets give him some support
Gameday has Halladay at a steady 92.
Damon is getting robbed in every way. Nice play by hill.
On April 15, 2007 in the rubber game against the New York Yankees in Oakland, with two on, two out in the bottom of the 9th and the A’s down 4–2, Scutaro, who previously was 1-for-20 for the season, hit a walk-off home run off closer Mariano Rivera on an 0–2 pitch.
Halladay at 35 AJ at 38.
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3 run homerun. 2 outs.
I love how the TOR announcers already have TOR in the playoffs. Dudes, it’s May 12th!!!!! Let’s see where you are in September, okay?
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They’re idiots. Always have been. Mute them before they give you an ulcer, lol.
Sigh
why is halladay so good?
NY Post says Coke is out with a bad back.
cannot see the game but can the yanks at least get the ball out of the infield on occassion!!!!
coke out too? what the hell is going on with this team?
jk
May 12th, 2009 at 7:53 pm
NY Post says Coke is out with a bad back.
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I thought ecstasy was the one that was bad for your back
Carl, Halladay is one inning ahead of AJ.
All it takes for the Jays fans to get into a game is for a player to leave them.
Marshall, through 3 innings has allowed 1 hit, 1 walk and 2 strikeouts. He’s also gotten 2 ground ball DPs. Daniel Brewer has a solo homer, Charleston leads 1-0. almonte has a 2-2 with a steal.
First time through the line up Halladay is completely dominant with his two seam fastball and cutter.
Teixeira gets up a second time and Halladay breaks out the curveball for strike two.
Next pitch Tex has no idea what’s coming.
That at bat is why hitters swing early against Halladay. You get behind and the at bat is done.
Yikes. Wang gets a comebacker in the leg. Good thing it was the left. He stays in. Pitching very well so far.
oh great…leadoff doble
Tishbi don’t know what I was thinking. Thanks for reminding me.
Why exactly did Jays fans boo that pitch? Are they stupid?
lol @ teixeira he is so bad
that pitch was practically right down the middle
he has to be near the top of the league in called strike 3′s
why is he still hitting 3rd?
Holliday’s command is isane and he mixes up pitches very well. NO!, extremely well.
Holliday’s command is isane and he mixes up pitches very well. NO!, extremely well.
These Canadans really hold a grudge!
because he walks a lot.
Small market/bad teams “fans” are the most annoying fans. They obviously aren’t die hards like Yankee and Sox fans are. Die hards go to the game to root for there team 1st these “fans” go just to be obnoxious and I doubt they even care how “their” team does.
Wang 4IP, 1H, BB, 4K, GO-AO: 3-4.
“His back is a little stiff and there is a good chance we can’t use him tonight,” Joe Girardi said before the game against the Blue Jays at Rogers Centre.
Here’s where we see which AJ is on the mound tonight..
Wells with a walk. Come on AJ
When we play the Jays there are a few sure things.
1) Doc will make us look pitiful.
2) Rios will get at least one hit in each game.
3) Scutaro will hurt us in a big spot.
we need a double play here
bodhisattva whats AO?
Pet Peeve- Halladay is the pitcher’s name.
air out?
They boo a routine trip to the mound. Geez.
My 9 is killing my ears!!
Thx
That was outside? WHOA I don’t think so.
Great, it’s the AJ that crumbles…
Another bad ump.
Terrible pitching by AJ against Wells there.
In a microcosm that at bat’s been a summary of his career. Gets two strikes on him with unhittable curves balls.
And then he overthrows three straight pitches to walk him.
Mystifying. But this is what he does when he gets in trouble.
He overthrows.
C’mon AJ, throw strikes. We don’t want a repeat of Boston.
AJ is working himself into a royal mess, besides raising his PC.
Walks are always gonna kill ya…
Oh dear
Looks like no close calls tonight..You most throw the ball right over the plate otherwise its a ball..
AJ getting squeezed a bit
carl
May 12th, 2009 at 7:58 pm
bodhisattva whats AO?
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air outs ( as in flyouts).
AJ just doesn’t seem to locate as well pitching out of the stretch.
great Aj crumbles. 2 in 2 on no out.
how the hell are we going to get those and the ones on back against doc?
Every Day Phil Coke
May 12th, 2009 at 8:02 pm
AJ getting squeezed a bit
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Gee, what else is new? Mariano Rivera gets squeezed with every appearance.
Something is rotten in MLB.
That’s all she wrote
0-18 in his career, 1-1 as a yankee.
Why is the infield back.. We’re facing Doc????
Yankees continue to suck
He does tend to have big innings…He should stick to hard stuff against old man Rolen with slow bat speed.
Finally! 1 out
Come on, AJ.
Bear down and trust your stuff.
I know Doc looks great but you’d have to think something will give him with. We have to eventually hit him. We see him all the time.
Look at how often Wake dominated us, more recently we can hit him.
Nunez blows a DP for Wang.
Just so I understand- the yanks are down 2 (and counting) and its the umps fault? Got it.
We get out down 2 it’s not the end of the world.
Maybe a pitching coach would help in these situations since Yankee pitchers tend to love the big innings. Also reminding him not to over throw.
Now he is 1 for 20 with a 2 run double, great.
This team cant get on any kind of roll. We beat the hapless O’s 2out of 3 and now we loose the 1st game in a big first place series.
Good night people it was great while it lasted for the first 3 innings.
Is there any sense to even finish this game now? Burnett spontaneously combusts just like his last few starts.. With Halladay pitching seems unlikely this team has a comeback in them.
“Why is the infield back.. We’re facing Doc????”
That’s not the issue. The infield was positioned assuming that Rolen didn’t have the bat speed to pull AJ.
But of course if you only throw two pitches and the hitter happens to guess curveball or picks it up early or you hang it just a bit then… the defense winds up badly positioned.
This innings is just a summary of Burnett’s career.
Rachel, extremely good point, already tonight AJ has gotten curve ball happy just cuz he threw a couple good ones. He should have challenged Rolen with a well located fastball, a little out of the zone
wow Come on Cash.
Damn it that throw was there!
good catch cash. a-hole. nice through though.
not that the 3rd run will even matter, but thats a terrible job by cash
why isnt that scored an error? A MLB catcher *should* make that play
What a throw…
Well that stinks…I wonder if the better defensive catcher would of made that play..Cervelli anyone??
We need to sign guys for even longer contracts. That will motivate them.
AJ getting squeezed badly on Gameday
3 runs we can do this.
Grrr. Those walks will kill ya.
Maybe the Yankee bats will wake up.
6.5 games back, can this team get back to first place before I die? Ugh
Minimal damage (loosely speaking — ggrrr!) but with a guy like Halladay, it’s like having a ten run lead.
That’s a hard hop to catch. That ball was flying.
AJ at 69 pitches
this game is over…. normally I would never say that but I only say it because let’s face it they can’t score 3 runs off of Halladay, he just freaking owns them… Meanwhile Burnett has no one to blame but himself he walks way too many people… I didn’t realize he had this poor of command when we signed him….. we have way too many pitchers with bad command and we just need more strike throwers… walks are such fuel for rallies… they kill you
The Yankee batters will probably look at the 3 spot like 10.. Like ok guys lets get them tomorrow.
now matsui is out too? jesus. can anyone stay healthy?
Swisher is pinch hitting for Matsui?
Oh great. Another guy hurting.
For Tampa, Bleich has a no hitter through 3 innings, one walk, 0 strikeouts. Montero is 1-2 with a 2 run single. Laird is 1-2 with an RBI single.
How the heck was that first pitch to Swish a strike?
The list of pitchers who own the Yankees just gets longer every year . . . mirroring the team’s decline.
See ya manana guys, the game is done.
it’s embarrassing that our team just cannot stay healthy.
The great Matsui who is 50 going on 60 is now obviously hurt..If he can’t even stay healthy while DHing.
Swisher in for Matsui? Another ancient Mariner broken down?
Wang walked 2 neither scored
So now Matsui is hurt?
If it’ll make anybody feel better, Wang slider just nasty. He looks right as rain tonight.
LOL here comes the negativity as the Yankees start to lose. The “fans” who comment on this blog are hilarious.
Like I said earlier, you guys should climb under the same rock you were under in the 80′s
ZMAN,
How is the list increasing? Roy has always dominated the Yanks
The Yankees are the worst team in baseball. They have nothing.
Wow, Halladay at 44 pitches.
Gotta layoff those cutters in on the hands. Take pitches at the lead. A K looking is better than grounding out to overbay every time.
Cano’s at bat tells you all you need to know about the Yanks. It is almost like they showed up today knowing they had no chance. But after the 3 runs they knew it was over. If they don’t apply pressure against Eaton why would anyone think they would do it against a good pitcher in Harry.
Can we leave these guys in Canada and bring up a team from A ball – they can’t do worse!
Ahhhhhh. Lonn Trost! Good they cut him off.
quick inning
No, it’s all looking good, Cliff. We’re firing on all cylinders. Anyone else want to say that Toronto is a pretender?
The only reason why the Yankees went after AJ Burnett is because he was good against the Red Sox.
I can take losing, but please please please dont blame this on the umps. Its so lame. So very lame.
Counterintuitively, I just feel that with all the horrendous luck we’ve had, the other shoe is going to drop for us.
yes toronto is a pretender. 2 hits ? halladay and walks.
what is the matsui scoop?
any outs to the outfield yet?
44 pitches thru 5, he is schooling the yanks..
Spiced Ham,
Actually there are 12 teams with worse a worse winning percentage
Matsui…tightness in his hamstring
Matsui left game with strained left hamstring
Matsui is a DH and still somehow finds a way to get hurt. Can’t make it up. SMH
ignore spiced ham he is about a 12 yr old spoiled foolish yankee fan…
Just place Matsui on waivers already and bring up Austin Jackson. At what point do they just concede this is going to be a rebuilding year? No one can stay healthy and those who are healthy are playing like they are hurt.
Christina
May 12th, 2009 at 8:20 pm
The only reason why the Yankees went after AJ Burnett is because he was good against the Red Sox.
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That’s a little too Red Sox-centric for me. I don’t think so.
This team tires me to no end… Lackluster effort and underachieving all the time.. I need a break from this
matsui hammy, jeter oblique ,coke back?
Are the Yanks kidding with the YS collectibles? They couldn’t sell a ticket to the game for $2,500 so they will try to sell 2 chairs for $1,500. Like it is a bargain, what a joke.
Amazing how that little Melky manages to make plays with neither speed nor reading ability. Must be God’s grace.
The yankees apparantly hired dr. kevorkian as the new trainer
I hope Melky wasn’t really considering giving the ball to that blond Canadan. He seemed hesitant for a second.
ZMAN,
When did I say things were looking great?
“ignore spiced ham he is about a 12 yr old spoiled foolish yankee fan…”
Nah, I just don’t take the internet seriously all the time and almost everything I say is either an exaggeration or a lie. Relax kid
the ghost putting matsui on waivers accomplishes what you moron??
if he is hurt put him on IR, they pay him if the ywaive him….
I love Jeter but watching Pena play short makes you realize just how bad jeter is defensively. Its actually more apparent on the routine plays
forget winning for a second, it is way more frustrating that we cannot keep a healthy team on the field.
i feel like if we got halladay, he would have an era over 5 too.
whats with all these leg injuries?
Pena is fun to watch at SS. Glides to the ball fast and has a gun for an arm.
Ok, I am going to say what you are all thinking: FIRE GENE MONIGHAN
Its true. If you look at Burnett’s statistics you can see that he dominated the Red Sox before this year. He is bad against other teams.
Nick,
I remember that happening a couple years ago. I think it was Trot Nixon but I could be misremembering
Vader
May 12th, 2009 at 8:21 pm
Matsui…tightness in his hamstring
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Time to bring up Miranda
We had no shot at this game and Girardi knew. Hence the AAA lineup out there.
ok doris
first of all its Gene Monahan and that has nothing to do with him
he is a trainer
the guy that gets blamed for this type of stuff is the strength and conditioning coach
not the 30+ year tenured trainer
put matsui on the dl and bring up a hitter.
Cliff- it was benny agbayani
coke is hurt because he is old after all he is 27 yrs old…
maybe guys get hurt because they do!!!!!!!!!!!!
A few years ago when the Yanks had a bunch of muscle pulls and strains they fired their strength and conditioning coach right?
Jermaine- um, no kidding
call up John Rodriguez or Todd Linden
they’re raking at AAA
if you have to DL Hideki
call them both up and get rid of the 80 year old
For Charleston, 5 innings, 1 hits, 0 runs, 2 walks, 5 strikeouts. 8 groundouts, 2 flyouts.
Brewer is 2-3 with homer, double and 2 RBI. 2-0 Charleston
this game is petty sad
Can we get another hit at least?
looks like doc is going the entire game.
what did benny agbayani do?
that almost hit him
Team is completely predictable and even Arods return hasn’t done a damn thing for the offense.
This lineup looks like boys against men…
They hit balls hard and it goes right to a glove like there is a magnet in it.
that’s what happens when you assemble an aging roster, they are dropping like flies…maybe Jeter, Posada, and Matsui can attend AARP meetings together once they all hit the DL…do these guys stretch before games? They are supposed to be athletes
why is it 4 of our 5 pitchers cant get to the 7th inning in a game?
Is it football season yet.. At least Mark Sanchez brings hope to the NY area.
Wang in 6 innings, 3 hits, 3 walks, 6 strikeouts, no score.
No Toronto outfielder has made a put out tonight
also, the yankees need to use some pitching to get some promising prospects for the infield.
I can’t really complain as to what AJ is giving us – he’s got no control over the Yankees not hitting Halladay. I’m glad to see that he came out smoking despite being booed – he obviously had no problem controlling his emotions. If he could give us another 2 or 3 innings, that would be a job well done……..You can’t win if you can’t score. Let’s face it, we all knew this would be a brutal game to win. The key is, if we do lose this game, to bounce back – there’s no reason why we can’t win the next two
Too bad Hughes wasn’t supposed to pitch tonight. That way he could of gave up his 7 or 8 runs and it wouldn’t matter. Now they will waste a decent start from AJ.
“looks like doc is going the entire game.”
Not only that, he’ll probably have to throw in the bullpen after the game, just to make sure he gets enough work in. He is a beast – remember all the crazy talk about the Jays trading him late in ST? Now they’re the best team in the AL.
keep coming fastball inside.
Well I hate to give up, but this game is over. Complete game shutout for Halladay. Combine this guy getting in our heads along with 3 automatic outs in the lineup and you get a joke of a game. Halladay does not even have to work. They just go down like little leaguers.
this is why you do not put gardner,cash,pena in the lineup together unless you have too.
pena has too play but swish & cervelli should be playing.
didn’t girardi learn this last year.
you play your best players especially coming off of a day off.
I get offended when people say that NY’ers will never agree to a rebuilding era. As intelligent baseball fans NY’ers now realize that you cant half a$$ the rebuilding process. You cant keep the same old, sluggish, injury prone team and throw in a few Penas and Gardners and call the roster “young talent infused”. It just doesnt work and it never will. You have to rip the team apart and start from new. Sadly this will never happen with the Yankees as they just spent another half a billion dollars in free agency desperatley attempting to recapture past glory with overpriced (what they think) quick fixes. The quick fix doesnt work in baseball. Look at every team that has won anything in the past decade. They all went through a rebuilding process where they riped apart thier teams and built it from the ground up.
The Yanks are creaky this year. And they’re not like real injuries, they’re like old-people injuries. That combined with horrible defense and the empty new intended-for-the-rich-who ruined-the-country supercenter, makes ‘em hard to love this year.
no shut out, we will score.
Over or under 80 pitches CG for hallday
“No Toronto outfielder has made a put out tonight”
Damon in the 1st inning
The Yankees are getting schooled here, the three runs seem like a mountain
Halliday is tough for anyone.
wow great double play
Hey that was pretty.
I must say Im not a big AJ Burnett fan. I thought he had changed and tried to pitch to contact. He looks like he is trying to be way too fine on the mound. He is trying to hit the corners. He throws 90 freaking 7 miles per hour. He just has to go throw the ball and not try to put the perfect pitch in there.
what the heck do the yankees do with jeter next year? how can they send him back out there at SS when Pena is on the team? Its like keeping your porsche in the garage and driving the ford taurus instead…
Betsy
May 12th, 2009 at 8:33 pm
I can’t really complain as to what AJ is giving us – he’s got no control over the Yankees not hitting Halladay. I’m glad to see that he came out smoking despite being booed – he obviously had no problem controlling his emotions. If he could give us another 2 or 3 innings, that would be a job well done……..You can’t win if you can’t score. Let’s face it, we all knew this would be a brutal game to win. The key is, if we do lose this game, to bounce back – there’s no reason why we can’t win the next two
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Well said Betsy. When we were getting blitzed on Saturday in Baltimore, I sat there hoping Girardi would take Jeter & Damon out of the game to give them a blow. I figured we’d win the series, any way, which we did. If Cash hangs onto the ball, there, it’s 2-0 – a world away from 3-0 – especially vs. Doc. What can you do.
I think Tod linden and Wang will get called up after Phils start.
we should of signed lowe
Pat- In the 1st inning that was an outfield assist no a put out
I really hope that the Yanks don’t bring up Wang after this start. It would be nice if he got another start or 2 in the minors. As we have seen from Hughes pitching in the minors means nothing. The coaches just have to make sure Wang is keeping his pitches down instead of really looking at the numbers. Charlotte only has 3 batters in their lineup hitting over .250.
even with 3-0 u no halladay gonna get u out
We are OLD.
Arod
Jeter
Matsui
Posada
OLD
It’s not rocket science.
We need to bring in young position players now, starting with Austin Jackson in LF
take a walk, steal second. do we know how to play small ball?
I appreciate the effort AJ has given us – how many pitches has he thrown ? Can he get through another inning or two?
It’s no shame to lose to Roy Halladay – the guy is awesome. I find it hard to dislike him – not only is he a great pitcher, but he’s a good guy.
in left? damon is the only one hitting!!!!
Stuart, watch who you are calling a moron. I’m just tired of waiting for Matsui to get healthy I think his body is done with baseball. Opening up a roster spot and getting some young guys ML experience is worth eating Matsui’s salary.
Let’s see..the only fully healthy, position players left are:
Damon
Tex
Cano
Swisher
Gardner
Cabrera
Cash
Cervelli
Pena
Wait – is that the Pirates lineup???
Damon can DH now with Matsui out. Duh
Take a walk!!
HAHAHAHAHAHA
HALLADAY REALLY LOOKS GENEROUS TONIGHT EH?
On the positive side, A-rod sure does lengthen this lineup.
send gardner back to AAA. bring up linden or rodriguez or duncan.
Damon is the man.
“ts like keeping your porsche in the garage and driving the ford taurus instead…”
Its really not like that at all.
Thanks Johnny.
Now, should Damon be scolded for smiling while trailing?
k or pop up?
Come on Tex!
Am I allowed to hope that someone can plate Damon vs. the Great Halladay? Please?
Go Yanks!!!!
Don’t swing at a first pitch cutter
Too bad they don’t have 8 other Damon’s in the lineup..Here comes Tex pop up…Now they cant even give Tex a day off with all of the injuries.
Wang is finished for the night. 6 innings, 3 hits, 0 runs, 3 walks, 6 strikeouts, 82 pitches, 49 strikes. Cjaggett pitching, no score.
I never root for the Yankees to loose, but instead of winning 86 games and not making the playoffs, I’d rather they loose evry game for 5 years in a row and pick high in the draft and finally get some top end young talent on this team.
If I see Overbay one more time on the screen I’m going to barf.
This team doesn’t deserve Johnny Damon. He should have never signed with the Yankees and stayed with the Sox. He would have been a legend instead of being scorned by Sox fans and merely respected by Yankee fans.
Man it’s great to have Alex back.
He provides Tex lots of pitches to roll over, I mean, hit.
i dont get how this guy who was so good just cannot hit now.
LEAN INTO IT!!!
Bret,
33 is not really old
Matsui on the DL/Bench for a bit might not be a bad thing. Damon can get his AB’s at DH and we can bring Jackson up to play left and see what he has..
it feels like tex is always gonna K
Dr. Cox
May 12th, 2009 at 8:44 pm
“ts like keeping your porsche in the garage and driving the ford taurus instead…”
Its really not like that at all.
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Really, what else can you say to something like that? You must have infinite patience to have even responded.
***Claggett*** pitching, no score.
Now the lack of clutch hitting aspect of this team is going to be highlighted.
and here we go again
does he ever swing at anything on the outside half? ANYTHING!!!???!!!
you dont always have to pull the damn ball mark.
Mark Whitson Texiera
“k or pop up?”
lol I had k just before he k’d.
SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE DONE WITH THIS GUY!!!
Tex doing what he should – hoping that a passed ball there might advance Damon.
Keep takin’ those close ones, Tex. So selfless, he is.
“its like keeping your porsche in the garage and driving the ford taurus instead…”
Jeter is more like a Monte Carlo.
Ramiro….. maybe a Karmann Ghia?
Hey Pete – Did you ask any players about what they thought about not allowing kids to get autographs in our new stadium?
i was only referring to defensive abilty… there are high school kids with better range than jeter and I am sorry if you dont want to accept that
How long can a guy stay in a slump.. I mean really Tex??
StawthatStirs – Tex pops out to….
May 12th, 2009 at 8:45 pm
Matsui on the DL/Bench for a bit might not be a bad thing. Damon can get his AB’s at DH and we can bring Jackson up to play left and see what he has..
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Yes, I think you will see AJax conquer LF first. But if he’s here before the rosters expand, Cashman should have his head handed to him. No good reason to disturb him before then.
Come on A-Rod shut the haters up.
clutch?
Yes!!!!!
told you we would score one.
Mark Hex-era.
Let’s hope not.
Alex!
we scored!
We should just call him John Tesch-eira.. What a lost soul up there.. Who would have thought
Oh my god!
Yessssss!!!!!!
Yessssss!!!!!!
good ab for arod..
dont be shocked if Tex is on that list of 103… no other way to explain it
A run!
no shut out for u doc
Swisher ties the game!
yay!
all i have the strength for
Wang’s line: 6 ip, 3 h, 0 r, 0 er, 3 bb, 6 k.
82 pitches, 49 strikes.
49 of 82 for strikes is not gonna cut in the majors. He needs at least another start.
Tex got a day off yesterday.
we have other guys we can bring up and let a-jax have a full year in AAA
“dont be shocked if Tex is on that list of 103… no other way to explain it”
wow…
WOW!! That just shows you how great Arod is. This is his 4th game and he hasnt seen major league pitching in months and he gets a hit in that spot. I cant wait until he gets into mid season form.
Watching Tex this year is reminiscent of cano last year. Swinging at garbage first pitches, taking 3rd strikes, making terrible outs.
The only difference is we didn’t have cano batting 3rd every game last season
arod should be on 2nd too.
Arod should test out that hip and steal 2nd
Tex please hit the ball –
who would that be – bring up whom?
well that was a little high
That looked high…
Now we know why Swish wasn’t in the original lineup…
so freaking nasty…
Swish rounding into 2008 form.
What a team!
“dont be shocked if Tex is on that list of 103… no other way to explain it”
Are you insane?? Last year he had a dynamite year with the braves and angels????
Halladay has certainly got the better of the umpire tonight.
bring up any of our AAA outfielders. a-jax is too important to rush up here. we have guys mashing in AAA.
We can win this. Come on Yanks!
who of or AAA OFs are mashing the ball.
alex wont push his leg for at least another week. i dont think he is 100% yet, and he seemed to want one more week in tampa.
Tex please hit the ball
May 12th, 2009 at 8:49 pm
we have other guys we can bring up and let a-jax have a full year in AAA
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Completely agree. Adding him when the rosters expand will be just to reward him with a taste. Not ready for prime time.
tex looks completely lost mentally, thats what I meant. maybe he knows its just a matter of time
shelly duncan?
If a switch hitter like Swisher has horrible numbers against a guy like Halladay, does it make sense to turn around and bat right handed just to throw something different at Halladay?
Yeah Halladay has been favored a bit by the umps, but his command is far better and I feel like I’ve heard Al Leiter tell me 1,000 times that better command will help you get calls from the umps. That pitch was borderline to Swish, maybe a touch upstairs, but no way anybody would have swung at that, especially with the lefties getting cutters in on their hands all night
All those who were slamming Girardi for not starting Swisher today should note that Swisher has now struck out twice on 8 pitches.
I’m a big Swisher fan, but every now and then let’s give credit where credit is due. Girardi knew what he was doing.
Cano has a gun
man AJ has pitched really well..its a dam shame the yankee bats ran in to the buzz saw that is halliday
Let’s go Yankees, make a comeback, you can do it!
At least the Yanks made him throw some pitches
One bad inning from AJ, but that’s all it takes against one of the best. This team is in trouble, considering the injuries, bullpen, and lack of timely hitting.
Mick the Quick
May 12th, 2009 at 8:52 pm
who of or AAA OFs are mashing the ball.
No ONE- SWB hasn’t scored in a week they set a record – the whole team is in a slump
aj is not doc because of the walks. aj game, good start, but gave up 3, had the 1 inning implosion. still has a over 5 ERA..
imagine how much moolah doc will get next year???
I think Cano is going to hit one of those Cano easy swing home runs
Cano showing more of that patience he’s famous for!
Way to go Robbie!
It’s like the Mariano cutter, but for the whole game. Crazy.
Come on Yanks!
This has to be one of the fastest games of the year, that one bad inning was a shame becaus AJ has pitched a good game other than that
shelly duncan?
bad shoulder
Other then Jeet, I wouldn’t be suprised by anyone being on the 103 list. But, to imply Tex’s recent performance is due to him being a 103′er makes no sense. The list was from 2004.. Since then, Tex has prob been tested a dozen times and never came up dirty. If he doesn’t turn in around soon you’d have a better argument that he’s just another player that can’t handle NY…
Now 3 straight automatic outs are up.
Please no DP Cash Please no DP Cash Please no DP Cash Please no DP Cash
Can’t have pena and gardner leading off the 9th
Halladay seems like some one who will not go for every last dollar.
Jinx
Now the game is really over. Pena and Gardner in the 9th. ugh.
couldn’t even PH for Cash???
Shhh.
Don’t tell the Jays that we have our secret weapon available to PH in the 9th should we get a man on.
Angel – grab a bat.
Is A-Rod boosting attendance?
This line-up is beyond sad.
a man among boys.. yanks have 3 balls out of the infield all on the ground if the gamecast is correct.
doc is making them look like chumps, schooling them….
I don’t understand why it’s Cash over Cervelli. With Cash there is absolutely no upside. You know you’ve got mediocrity or worse. Cervelli is still an unknown product and he’s already shown he can give the team a spark.
It wasn’t a jinx as much as wishing against the probable scenario. I wonder what Michael Kay thinks about jinxes on blog message boards?
I feel for Joe G. He’s got little to work with, but he’ll soon be feeling the heat.
fastest game all year…imagine how fast it would be if burnett didnt struggle that 1 inning..wow
Would it have been wrong to give Cash the take sign with two strikes to keep him out of the doubleplay?
If Cashman really went down to Scranton to watch Wang pitch, is it safe to assume that he got private radar gun readings?
This team is so badly constructed that Kevin Cash has to hit in the eight inning of a 2 run game with a chance to tie the game. Is there anybody that can PH in that spot?
“Other then Jeet, I wouldn’t be suprised by anyone being on the 103 list. But, to imply Tex’s recent performance is due to him being a 103’er makes no sense. The list was from 2004.. Since then, Tex has prob been tested a dozen times and never came up dirty. If he doesn’t turn in around soon you’d have a better argument that he’s just another player that can’t handle NY…”
I agree with you about not being surprised about anyone being on that list. However, stupid Doris from Rego Park has declared that Tex is on that list specifically because he is having a bad year this year even thought he was been solid in years past INCLUDING all of last year…
“Tex got a day off yesterday.”
I know but alot of players have said that a day off at the game and just sititng on the bench helps them alot. He can just watch the game and ease his mind. Instead of knowing he has to play. It is now the middle of May are they going to let this go until June?!!
PJH®
May 12th, 2009 at 9:01 pm
Now the game is really over. Pena and Gardner in the 9th. ugh.
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We just need back-to-back infield singles, ala Cervelli & Jeter in Baltimore.
I feel like I’ve seen Halladay do this so many times.
There’s a vendor at the stadium who works in the upper deck…Everytime Halladay’s pitching he just stands in the aisle and scream “Halladay’s Pitching!!” over and over and over.
So much for that.
Would you doubt it with the line up Girardi put out there.
the ghost sorry to hit you with some logic but cerevelli hit under 200 in the minors this year. therefore you can conclude you are not taking johnny bench out of the lineup., since you are about 12, johhny bench was a good cather in the 70′s..
catchers need rest on occassion also.
Can we bring Mike Aldrete out of retirement?
Come back soon, co-Ace Wang?
stellar pitching all around. i just wish our boys could get some hitting in. small ball maybe, instead of always swinging for the fences. damn
“I don’t understand why it’s Cash over Cervelli. With Cash there is absolutely no upside. You know you’ve got mediocrity or worse. Cervelli is still an unknown product and he’s already shown he can give the team a spark.”
There not going to have Cervelli catch every single day. Cash isn’t outstanding but, I wouldn’t say he’s a bust either.
Burnett keeps them in the game.
8th inning…we bring the tying run to the plate.
Duncan? Miranda? J-Rod?
Nope…Kevin Cash.
He of the 180 lifetime average.
What’s with the roster?
At least pinch hit with Yogi Berroa!
Hey, I hate to break it to everyone, but Uehara shut the Yanks down almost as easily on Sunday.
I’ve always said that if Jeter tests positive, I’m done with life completely.
No reason to leave AJ in the game, IMO. Its not like we’re coming back on Halladay, so give somebody an innning of work
For Charleston, Marshall pitched great. 6 innings, 1 hit, 0 runs, 3 walks, 7 strikeouts, 1 WP. Big bats: Brewer is 2-3 with a homer, double, 2 RBI. Melky Mesa with 1-3 with RBI double. Abe Almonte is 3-3 with a stolen base. Bottom 7, 3-0 Charleston.
AJ is just average… Nice investment. So much for the great record against the AL East..
I CANNNT STAND THIS TEAM ANYMOREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
And this gem will leave the Yanks 5 – 11 versus AL East opponents.
I might be wrong but this seems like the perfect inning for Veras. The game is over and there is no reason for injury prone AJ to go over 100 pitches. Giardi seems to want to stretch these guys out alot and whenever possible. I really don’t approve of Girardi letting the pitchers get to 115+ so early in the season. Especially with Burnett…
I know it looks bad right now, but no team with Melky and Gardner waiting in the wings is out of any game.
We are not supposed to beat Halladay on the road. We just need to win the series.
So Andy vs. Scott Richmond tomorrow..
“Aj is just average” sure he is, guy that easily reaches 97 and has one of the best curves in the game. Good summation.
Pre-allstar last year 4.5 era 10-8
Post 8-2 2.86 era
Career wise he gets it going 2nd half of the year and as year goes along just like Sabathia.
Bod — and what’s the line-up going to look like tomorrow? Same injuries, same underperformers.
Losing to Adam Eaton was bad. I don’t see how you can be mad at this. Best pitcher in the MLB.
Burnett is an injury just waiting to happen. Doesn’t Girardi want to save his bullets for later in the season??!!
Justin C,
Then stop watching.
Pena is a slick little fielder
GreenBeret7
May 12th, 2009 at 9:06 pm
For Charleston, Marshall pitched great. 6 innings, 1 hit, 0 runs, 3 walks, 7 strikeouts, 1 WP. Big bats: Brewer is 2-3 with a homer, double, 2 RBI. Melky Mesa with 1-3 with RBI double. Abe Almonte is 3-3 with a stolen base. Bottom 7, 3-0 Charleston.
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Thanks, GB7.
Is Almonte playing CF?
veras is ready. no reason to keep him in. he has a history of shoulder problems and hes tiring
Pena…may not have the bat for MLB, but his glove should give him a job for many years to come.
Anyone else get extra innings? The toronto announcers think aj’s getting booed because he tipped his cap to a booing crowd last year more than because he opted out and signed with the yankees. yea, that makes sense.
Tex is prayin to God noone gets on base in the 9th!
Stuart, you idiot, first of all, Cervelli has a .271 average in the minor leagues and hit .300 last year. Johnny Bench hit .259 his last year in the minors. Oh and Jorge Posada’s lifetime BA is .277 so who’s the idiot that is judging Cervelli’s potential on 58 ab. And if I’m not older than you physically I am most certainly older than you mentally.
Pena can’t go to his left on the carpet.
AJ barking at Cash or what was that????
Hard to believe AJ got booed more than Alex tonight.
“If Cashman really went down to Scranton to watch Wang pitch, is it safe to assume that he got private radar gun readings?”
Randy must be on cloud 9 today. Cashman was sent to Scranton, huh?
Does he have to stay down there 15 days, before he gets called back up?
Girarrdi really looks disappointed like he thought that they have a chance to win.
Rolen was 0-18 off of AJ coming into the game. Today he was 3 for 4.
ugh.
this team is terrible. what a joke. look at this lineup.
Hard to believe that Toronto is a better team without AJ.
I have no interest in the Yankees anymore. The team is garbage and the organization has alienated its hardcore fans. When the Mets are drawing 4 million and the Yankees are struggling to sell tickets for their 4th place team, maybe they’ll finally wake up and lower the prices.
That was a poor pitch on 0 – 2
Mets are having trouble selling tickets as well, no way they even outdraw the yankees this year with a smaller ballpark
JP,
Like I said twice earlier, if you have no interest in the Yanks go back under the same rock you were under in the 80′s. Please, you are embarrassing.
“I have no interest in the Yankees anymore. The team is garbage and the organization has alienated its hardcore fans. When the Mets are drawing 4 million and the Yankees are struggling to sell tickets for their 4th place team, maybe they’ll finally wake up and lower the prices.”
Yes, lets just give up after 2 months of baseball.
ZMAN7777
May 12th, 2009 at 9:10 pm
Bod—and what’s the line-up going to look like tomorrow? Same injuries, same underperformers.
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Well, the lineup tomorrow won’t be facing Halladay. That’s a good start. I say we swipe the next two.
And they physically can’t draw 4 million with their capacity
How thoughtful of Girardi to keep Burnett in the game an extra inning so the Jays can get a couple more of cheap runs in.
Just another day of the Yankees ’09 campaign…
ZMAN,
How can you call someone an underperformer 30 games into the season?
JP hate to tell you Yankees still lead the league in attendence and was at Citifields, they have the same problems. They are giving seats behind the plate to employees and families to fill them. The prices are that bad except those seats to you????? If they dropped them to $25o are you buying or something???
LOL at Jeter’s final speech at the old Yankee Stadium about how the fans are what makes Yankee Stadium what it was and how they had to move to the new stadium.
HEY LON TROST, RANDY LEVINE.. THATS NOT POSSIBLE… not when you don’t want us there with your insane prices built for the rich.
Veras
Yankees are first in all of baseball for attendence in 2009 averaging 44,540. Mets are 7th with 38,440.
This whole seat thing is out of hand, it’s the seats behind home plate not around the whole stadium.
Silky,
Do yourself a favor, take out a calculator. type 52,000 and multiply it by 81
“AJ barking at Cash or what was that????”
No it seemed like he was talking to himself. I don’t know why people are jumping on Cash. Hell, if they were winning people would be all over Cash saying how good he is. Maybe his bat isn’t good but, I don’t think the guys awful behind the plate. One game doesn’t give someone enough of a chance
DT: I don’t know how excited randy will be unless tar and feathers were involved.
nygiants
May 12th, 2009 at 9:16 pm
“I have no interest in the Yankees anymore. The team is garbage and the organization has alienated its hardcore fans. When the Mets are drawing 4 million and the Yankees are struggling to sell tickets for their 4th place team, maybe they’ll finally wake up and lower the prices.”
Yes, lets just give up after 2 months of baseball.
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Nothing would give me more pleasure than to be rid of those “borderline” types. They’re those failed frat boys who go to games to boo Alex, because they harbor unconscious latent fantasies about him, and spill beer on you as they try to bull by you with Rivera in a windup in the ninth.
Let them go to Shea. Good riddance!
I think it is obvious to say that 99% of the time Veras has no idea where the ball is going…Maybe 100%..
“ZMAN,
How can you call someone an underperformer 30 games into the season?”
That’s what ZMAN does best. He’s been at it for quite a while now.
Jeter, Posada, Wang, Matsui, Bruney, Marte, Molina, Nady and Ransom are all in the clubhose watching American Idol and will return to the active list as soon as the final show is over next week. Then, the Baseball season will begin.
Can we score 4 runs off of God?
“Aj is just average” sure he is, guy that easily reaches 97 and has one of the best curves in the game. Good summation.”
Mr. John- he is average in that he can’t and hasn’t pitched in the big game pressure obvious in his meltdown vs. Boston and this game against Hallady.. THAT IS A GREAT SUMMATION!!
Football cant come soon enough for me. I thoght that baseball will keep me spiked at least until June, I guess it wont. Go Giants!!!
Please demote Veras. C’mon….
bodhisattva,
I was being sarcastic when I said “Yes, lets just give up after 2 months of baseball.” Don’t start jumping on me
swisher should play his godawful country music as often and as loud as he likes because, yes aj, your team is that bad right now.
Hi, I haven’t been watching TV and I’m not sure judging by the comments.
Are the Yankees losing the game tonight
I kid, I kid.
I do love how people announce that they’re never going to watch another game this year.
That’ll teach the Yankees when they’re counting the hundreds of million dollars of revenue the team will bring in this year.
Roy Halladay is the true definition of an ACE in every way.
Should be admired. He owns batters.
Battle Yankees battle!
I did not know this: Chris Chambliss is the manager of the Charlotte Knights.
carl
May 12th, 2009 at 9:20 pm
Can we score 4 runs off of God?
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It would be difficult, since it isn’t customary to face your own closer.
Hasn’t pitched in big game pressure? I’m sorry you are looking at a Saturday afternoon game in April as a big game pressure siutation???? How’d Beckett look in that “big pressure” game????? Do you want to face Beckett in Sept. ???
Let’s Go Yanks!!!!
nice hit for pena!
Harry must of loved the tack on runs…
I do love how people announce that they’re never going to watch another game this year.
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Like Norman Bates vowing he’s leaving his mother.
I agree with Jonsey. People aren’t giving him a chance because they have this infatuation with Cervelli. If he was winning people would have nothing but, nice things to say about him. Give him a chance. At batting he sucks I’ll give you that but, behind the plate he’s pretty decent
If you are part of the “true fans” that is simply giving up this early in the season good riddance. Go back and root for the Mets like you probably were in the 80s, they just had a 7 game winning streak not long ago.
Pena is doing his best to make the Yankees think real hard about replacing Jeter at the end of the year. If the Yankees finish in the cellar all bets are off for the captain. Especially since old sentimental Stein is out of the picture.
I was refering to Citi Field capacity in response to the Mets drawing 4 million.
nygiants
May 12th, 2009 at 9:22 pm
bodhisattva,
I was being sarcastic when I said “Yes, lets just give up after 2 months of baseball.” Don’t start jumping on me
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My good fellow, I was in sympathy with you. Mine was a “tag on” comment. I’d have to be dead stupid not to pick up the irony. Sorry – next time I’ll telegraph, lol.
The Yankees are just not that good right now. Their rotation will be fine, but with all the current injuries, the offense and bullpen are average to below average. They also can’t get good defense without packing the lineup with .200 hitters.
Pop up Tex gets to make the last out….
gardner absolutely sucks. i said this from day one. send him back.
Halladay is just the best pitcher of his era. It’s a real shame he’s never gotten to the playoffs. He reminds me of Jack Morris a little.
“Pena is doing his best to make the Yankees think real hard about replacing Jeter at the end of the year.”
Can I have some of what you’ve been puffing on?
I won’t mind if the Yanks “tip their cap” to tonite’s pitcher. This guy deals.
I blame this loss on Pete.
As soon as I heard he and Swisher cut each other’s hair blindfolded, I knew it was trouble.
wow .189 in mid may. maybe he will be over .200 by july 4th.
John any game against Boston is a big game.. If you were a true Yankee fan you would see that. It’s the early games of the season that defines this team. For the last 4 years or so this team has had to play catch up and hasn’t been able to do so. So these games do really matter! When the team finishes 4 or 5 games out you can look to the May swoon and say “Wow, maybe if they pulled their heads out at the beginning of the season, they wouldn’t be in this predicament!”
hey, at least they pushed halladay to the 100-pitch mark. it was looking iffy there for a while.
and girardi knows aj burnett is injury-prone, right? is it really necessary to leave him in for 110 sub-par pitches the start after he thew 115 sub-par pitches? it’s not like the bullpen was going to lose this game. it was out of reach when toronto scored their third run.
bodhisattva: so fans you think are obnoxious/bandwagon types were in fraternities in college and boo Arod because they harbor latent homesexual fantasies about him?
What?
Please tell me you didn’t really mean that.
Hard to believe that Halladay needed to go back to single A after his first stint in the majors when he was terrible. Just a note to all those who give up on young pitchers like Hughes who struggle early in their careers.
If John Rodriquez can play LF, CF and RF then Gardner needs to go back to the minors. Once he went back to his slap the ball swing he became totally useless. You just can not slap at the ball the way he does and hit major league pitching. He is wasting a roster spot. They need someone who can play the outfield AND hit.
It was nice having so many automatic outs in the lineup tonight, I must admit..game done by 9:30pm, that’s gives me at least a half hour back in my life.
Am I an anomaly? Because I truly live in a state of indifference to the Mets.
I see the Yankee Fan Truthers are out in full force tonight.
A “true” Yankee fans knows that there’s no way the Yankees can make a run this year.
Oh well, let’s get a win tomorrow
I see elsewhere that some folks wanted AJ pulled after the 7th – Why, ig his pitch count wasn’t high? AJ was looking good, but 5 runs in 7 plus innings doesn’t work. I would have been very happy with 3 in 7 – but those are big runs he gave up……
tomorrow:
1. move tex from the 3rd spot.
2. send gardner to AAA, bring up linden
3. DL matsui if he is ever going to miss more than 1 game, bring up miranda.
4. play better
Well you had to expect Halladay was going to do the old mentor over the pupil…remember Rocky taking Tommy Gun to task.
I thought for sure Tex was gonna come up big there…
can we fire somebody lol
i dont care if its the assistant to the clubhouse manager
somebody has to take a hit for this teams performance
hahahahaha yeah right Pena will not replace Jeter. And RS you dont know what youre talking about the yankees are not below average offensively
raymagnetic, the Yankees have been putting off rebuilding for about 5 years now. They kept thinking they can put it off by filling their holes with uninspired free agents. Tampa, the Sox and Toronto are for real this year. The Yankees stand a very good chance of finishing in 4th possibly 5th place. If that happens how do they not rebuild? They can’t possibly spend any more money so they are going to have to get younger in the few spots where they can. That’s the outfield and, dare I say, SS. That’s it. Everyone else is pretty much locked into their position by a big contract.
Terry, yeah ok. So he has a bad game in April against the Sox at Fenway you call him average. I am a huge Yankees fan, enough that I understand that every year the Yankees and Sox start the same way. The Yankees lose the series in Fenway and by the end of the year the Yankees win the series and the overall season series by a slim margin.
Judge him one start at Fenway, then CC is average as well, so is Josh Beckett, John Lester, Scott Kazmir, hmmmm just about everyone except Scott Greinke and Halladay so far this year. I think I’d love to have five just ordinary type of pitchers.
Nick in SF
May 12th, 2009 at 9:30 pm
bodhisattva: so fans you think are obnoxious/bandwagon types were in fraternities in college and boo Arod because they harbor latent homesexual fantasies about him?
What?
Please tell me you didn’t really mean that.
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That’s kind of an oversimplification but yes, of course I meant it.
its the perfect storm right now. nothings goin right for the yankees
Ho hum. Another day another dollar for our overpaid stiffs.
I didn’t think we’d win this one, so oh well and move on to tomorrow. I said going in that the Jays are for real – and they are. They are getting contributions from everyone and their pitching is starting to come together – some guys will be returning from the DL in the next few weeks.
As far as the Yanks go, the SP continues to be up and …….and the less said about Tex, the better.
any chance we see Austin Jackson instead of Gardner any time soon?
Girardi really shouldn’t have left AJ in as long as he did. IMO, keeping Burnett in a 3-1 8th inning deficit against Halladay is like leaving all your starters in in a 10-run blowout.
Just accept that the game is lost, and save Burnett’s arm for a time when it might actually be useful.
>its the perfect storm right now. nothings goin right for the yankees
At least they have that going for them.
To those who wanted Burnett pulled earlier:
Would you REALLY rather have a tired Burnett or a fresh Veras? or perhaps an Edwar Ramirez?
That’s what i thought…
Burnett also lead the league in strikeouts last year, another just average ordinary thing for a pitcher.
For all the bridge jumpers – go watch the Scranton AAA team for a bit. They are 23-8 and will give you less to whine about.
Return to the big club in July when this team is healthy again and jump back on the rah-rah bandwagon.
Tex still can’t hit even A-Rod is behind him.
Maybe he needs Pujols behind him. Oops, Pujols is 1st baseman too. Hope there is some way Yankees can swap them.
bodhisattva,
“My good fellow, I was in sympathy with you. Mine was a “tag on” comment. I’d have to be dead stupid not to pick up the irony. Sorry – next time I’ll telegraph, lol.”
Its cool. I should of read your comment better. Glad we agree.
Were the boos really as bad as I’ve read for AJ? I guess he can burn the videotape he has of the fans cheering him off the field last year, lol
Don’t want to get Pujols before he is found to have some HGH as well.
You pull burnett cause you’re not coming back on Halladay, Burnett has shoulder history, and he was over 100 pitches. Yes Burnett gave up 2 runs so I didn’t want him in at the beginning of the 8th and I still don’t think he should have been in.
“John Lester, Scott Kazmir, hmmmm just about everyone except Scott Greinke”
That would be Zach Greinke!
Yankees fans probably ready to jump from the same cliff off which Robinson Cano’s numbers have fallen.
Terrible.
Oh sorry did I write Scott by accident, that’s your response????
STFU
May 12th, 2009 at 9:35 pm
any chance we see Austin Jackson instead of Gardner any time soon?
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No chance.
There IS good news tonight: Wang looked like Wang.
I think everybody who is alert knows we will rely on pitching and OPS this season t get it done. We’re not going out-athleticize teams, or play small ball. If our starters get going and we can get on base and slug, we’ll be successful.
We don’t have the material to be the Rays, but that doesn’t mean we can’t be successful.
“Tex still can’t hit even A-Rod is behind him.
Maybe he needs Pujols behind him. Oops, Pujols is 1st baseman too. Hope there is some way Yankees can swap them.”
Look at this! another idiot who wants to give up on a player when we’re not even half way through the season yet. Absolutely amazing. Tex will be fine.
wow – I’m glad I missed this thread during the game today…
I feel bad for Juan Miranda, he has 24 rbi in 27 games and has absolutely no chance, barring injury, of being promoted.
I’d like to see some of the dominating stuff that he’d shown even in spurts over the past few years – AJ really hasn’t shown that. He’s not the reason we lost, but it’s just disappointing that he couldn’t get through the 8th without giving up two important runs. I hope MY9 will show his post-game interview…….
HEY PETE.. WHY DONT YOU STEP UP AND WRITE AN ARTICLE ABOUT HOW TERRIBLE CASHMAN IS AS A GM.. HE’S TERRIBLE!..and should be fired.
“To those who wanted Burnett pulled earlier:
“Would you REALLY rather have a tired Burnett or a fresh Veras? or perhaps an Edwar Ramirez?”
That’s what i thought…”
Would you rather have a healthy Burnett pitching in September or Igawa? Take your pick. Like it really would of mattered if Veras came in and gave up 5 runs. The game was already over. Save Burnett for later in the season. If Girardi keeps letting him throw over 110 pitches he will be hurt very soon anyway.
Here’s how I’d have the lineup til posada comes back and hoping jeter and matsui injuries are not that serious….
1. Jeter
2. Damon
3. Cano
4. A-Rod
5. Tex
6. Matsui
7. Swisher
8. Cabrera
9. Cervelli
yeah tex will be fine he has terrible stats in April and like pete said maybe hes coming out of his slump (although .241 isnt too great but its a start)
I’m not ready to give up on Tex but if I had to choose I’d choose Pujols over Tex. However, I am ready to give up on the idea that he needs to be in the 3 spot every day while hes in this funk. And no more of this I’m glad he’s taking his walks. His OBP of .328 doesn’t even begin, in any way, to justify his .191 avg
nygiants
May 12th, 2009 at 9:36 pm
bodhisattva,
“My good fellow, I was in sympathy with you. Mine was a “tag on” comment. I’d have to be dead stupid not to pick up the irony. Sorry – next time I’ll telegraph, lol.”
Its cool. I should of read your comment better. Glad we agree.
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“Typical Game post
When Trailing:
Team has no heart
Fire Girardi
Fire Cashman
Teix is a bust
Not making the playoffs
Boston/Tampa/Toronto are so superior
Torre would have gotten us to the playoffs
No farm system
George needs to chew these guys out, Hal is a robot
Stadium is awful”
Isnt’ it funny how many of these comments we actually saw tonight?
I read on another board that, per George King, Coke was out with a bad back. Anyone hear that one? If true, just wow…….
Tex only wants to hit homeruns, that’s why he can’t hit.
I know I’m not idiot.
And like someone said, he should be in te back of lineup untill he proves he can hit.
Gardner did hit the ball the farthest in the air tonight hahah
Coke was out with a sore back, nothing serious, according to the Post.
someone tell when it’s time to worry about the 2009 Yankees….Pujols over Tex & not even close
Yes that was my response.. Just stating the facts! I’m all about facts. The fact is that this team signs players based on past performances with other teams. So when they put on the pinstripes those past performances are just that. They become average.. Sometimes players can handle NY, sometimes they can’t.. Sure Tex is in a slump, but this is the worst slump of his career.. I’ve seen Ed Whitson, Steve Trout, Steve Sax come through this team and fail miserably being under the spotlight.
It’s amazing to me how we Yankees fans are so spoiled. I’m 57 and saw the Mick play on one leg and the team stunk. Loved them anyway. I don’t get bent out of shape anymore like I did after the 2001 Series. I live in AZ and was at every game. I’m still not over it. However, until we get younger and see the farm system continue to improve, we are at the mercy of injuries. We are old and slow. So were the red sux…. more than us actually. They just started earlier on their farm system. We’ll be fine and eventually play to the back of our baseball cards. Until then, love your Yankees even when they stink. Like right now.
From the other day:
Pepitone
May 11th, 2009 at 1:06 am
Yankees win and all is right with the world!
Until Tuesdays loss to Doc Halladay. And then the next loss, and the next, and the next….
Next loss? Tomorrow.
Teixeira HAS to still be hurt, right? He can’t be this bad.
The Ghost
May 12th, 2009 at 9:39 pm
I feel bad for Juan Miranda, he has 24 rbi in 27 games and has absolutely no chance, barring injury, of being promoted.
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Their challenge with him is that he doesn’t really play a position. What good is a 3rd-string 1B on our team?
But – I would bring him up any way, considering Matsui’s fragility. When the knees aren’t feeling great, let Miranda DH. When Matsui’s feeling good, let Miranda come off the bench as a pinch hitter. We’ve had too many critical ABs come down to Molina (when he was healthy) Pena, etc.
It’s not as if Miranda needs to continue to learn how to hit in AAA. He’s already a polished hitter with great lefty power who is now smoking lefties as well as righties. I’d bring him up.
yeah no doubt anybody would choose pujols over tex, pujols is the man! except we’re never gonna get him, keep dreaming, he’s the face of the cards
does anybody else think its pathetic that pavano has already pitched 7 games for the indians and won the last 3 straight? what a jerk.
I was up in NYC last week and went to the stadium. Everything I heard was spot on – it’s not a good experience.
I’m sure the dopes in the Lazy Boys feel otherwise, while they’re getting a neck massage and Twitterin’, but I found the joint uninviting, I felt removed, and I was only in the second level next to third I said!
The place has no energy, and is wired to leach money out of wallets and nothing else. After hundreds of games at the real stadium, I won’t be going back after one at the new place.
Sad thing is, I also got to check out Citi Field on my visit.
We had seats 10 rows behind the Mets dugout. $175 was the face, my bud bagged ‘em (not Busey, that fayg don’t like baseball). Still, way expensive, but within reach for a treat.
Overall, the experience, and the prices, and the park knocked the living snot out of what the Yanks now offer. I left the new Yankee Stadium early, like 9:30PM. Citi Field, we closed the joint and were chased at like 1AM.
Here’s something I never thought I’d say: The Mets have a better team AND a better stadium. The Yankees need to fix this mess FAST.
And for this Trost guy – he needs to catch a beatin’.
who built this team??? that’s the only question….who built this team???? FIRE CASHMAN!!!!
ray…you would a least have to say the Boss did make it interesting during down times…wether it was saying Donnie needed to cut his hair, calling Irabu a fat p@$$y toad or John Henry the Scarecrow.
Terry, sorry you are just ridiculous. Good luck. I gave you facts and you are looking for typos.
Burnett is pitching exactly as he did in the first half of the year last year for Toronto. Go look at the facts. Or that stats for that matter. Apparently you don’t watch a lot of baseball outside of NY.
Tex compared to Ed Whitson (a pitcher) Steve Trout (another pitcher) and Steve Sax (after his prime) compared to Tex. Yeah great comparisons. Better comparsions and facts, Tex’s career stats always are bad at the beginning of every year and pick up as the season goes along. Facts, Tino Martinez and Giambi both started slow here and were booed. Hmmmmm, seems like someone we know. Have you actually watched Tex before he came here? And once again calling him out on May 12th and calling him out as a bust.
Tex just reminding us that 180,000,000 doesn’t buy what it used to
swish struck out AGAIN today? man he’s really rackin up those K’s like its nobody business. before the game pete said he struck out 12 of the last 23? yikes…
vince, dont worry about tex, he has miserable april/may stats he’ll be fine, he IS mark teixeira after all he didnt forget how to play baseball
Halladay to Burnett: “I taught you everything you know, but I didn’t teach you everything I know.”
robbie — “FIRE CASHMAN…FOR THE LOVE OF BASEBALL GODS!!!” May 12th, 2009 at 9:49 pm
who built this team??? that’s the only question….who built this team???? FIRE CASHMAN!!!!
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Relax buddy, firing cashman will solve uhh…what? Yeah nothing. And besides, who are you going to hire?
someone has to rebuild this team… fro player development… to scouting… to drafting…. I HOPE IT’S NOT CASH—MAN!!!!
PSA – Game Thread Tally for tonight:-
~Team has no heart – ZMAN7777 – lots of times to choose from.
~Fire Girardi – Justin C. May 12th, 2009 at 9:33 pm – Use of generic “somebody” counts.
~Fire Cashman – Justin C. May 12th, 2009 at 9:33 pm – Use of generic “somebody” counts.
~Teix is a bust – Kevin May 12th, 2009 at 7:56 pm
~Not making the playoffs – Spiced Ham May 12th, 2009 at 8:18 pm – to be fair, he was likely being facetious/sarcastic so it doesn’t really count.
~Boston/Tampa/Toronto are so superior – The Ghost May 12th, 2009 at 9:34 pm
~Draw a random Yankee minor leaguer out of a hat as a replacement option for comment – Tex please hit the ball May 12th, 2009 at 8:42 pm
~He’s getting squeezed – Every Day Phil Coke May 12th, 2009 at 8:02 pm
~The umpires are never to blame – Doris from Rego Park – May 12th, 2009 at 8:20 pm
~Stadium is awful – JP May 12th, 2009 at 9:19 pm
~Good night. This game is over (said in any inning before the bottom of the 9th) Extra points awarded for not actually stopping posting after posting that.. tishbi May 12th, 2009 at 8:07 pm in the bottom of the 4th inning.Honorable mention to:- Kevin May 12th, 2009 at 8:13 pm in the top of the 5th inning.
~I hate this team – Justin C. May 12th, 2009 at 9:07 pm, JP May 12th, 2009 at 9:15 pm
Still up for grabs:-
~Torre would have gotten us to the playoffs
~No farm system
~George needs to chew these guys out, Hal is a robot
JP enough said, go root for the Mets and go away. You’d do everyone here a favor and maybe yourself as well.
Focusing on the positive: Damon’s still hot, Melky’s still hitting, Alex got a 2 out basehit with a runner in scoring position to avoid the shut out and Pena got a hit and played good defense.
by the time the Yankees get things straighten out they will be 10-12 + games out of the playoff race
bodhisattva
May 12th, 2009 at 9:11 pm
GreenBeret7
May 12th, 2009 at 9:06 pm
For Charleston, Marshall pitched great. 6 innings, 1 hit, 0 runs, 3 walks, 7 strikeouts, 1 WP. Big bats: Brewer is 2-3 with a homer, double, 2 RBI. Melky Mesa with 1-3 with RBI double. Abe Almonte is 3-3 with a stolen base. Bottom 7, 3-0 Charleston.
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Thanks, GB7.
Is Almonte playing CF?
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Any time. Happy to help out. Yeah, Almonte played center. Made a couple of nice catches (according to announcer Dan Reed – who is, without a doubt the worst ever).
final score was 3-2 Charleston. Not much changed. venditte got the save with 1 inning, 1 hit, 1 strikeout. Pitch left hand to all three batters. Gave up a leadoff single in the 9th, got a double play and a strikeout.
“That’s kind of an oversimplification but yes, of course I meant it.”
Would you care to elaborate in a non-simplified manner? I would like to understand your point.
for so many years… he has brought in free agents that are very good outside NY but when they come here.. they are like deers seeing headlights… FIRE CASHMAN….
George needs to chew these guys out, Hal is a robot!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Wooooooohooooooooo
Tex will be fine. Everyone will be ok. Were gonna have Posada, Molina, Wang, Bruney, and Marte back possibly in a week. CC has been getting better and better each start. AJ will be fine, He will be lights out after the allstar break. Joba is becoming an Ace(minus the first inning). Pettitte will give you what he always does. We’re slow out of the gate, but we always are. It won’t be bad at all, we can take the next two this series and pick up some games.
John, don’t tell me enough.. ENOUGH WITH YOU! I’ll say whatever I want.
Inane/Insane Comments of the night:-
Tie between:-
Doris from Rego Park May 12th, 2009 at 8:39 pm
what the heck do the yankees do with jeter next year? how can they send him back out there at SS when Pena is on the team? Its like keeping your porsche in the garage and driving the ford taurus instead…
AND
The Ghost May 12th, 2009 at 9:26 pm
Pena is doing his best to make the Yankees think real hard about replacing Jeter at the end of the year. If the Yankees finish in the cellar all bets are off for the captain. Especially since old sentimental Stein is out of the picture.
Everybody who is saying Tex will be fine may be right, but he is digging himself into a big hole, and whether he’ll be fine or not, I don’t care. Tonight/tomorrow gets us to the 20% of the way through the season. Hitting .191-.328.-.418 with some power flashes is not acceptable at all what so ever.
Roy Halladay is a pleasure to watch. He’s a throwback to previous eras.If he played in New York or Boston he’d get the credit due him. In an era where pitchers are looking into the dugout when they’ve reached 100 pitches, he just sets out to finish what he’s started.
Josh Beckett gets accollades for being such a stud. But when you compare Beckett’s 5 career complete games and only 1 season with over 200 innings, he’s a wimp when compared to Halladay even at the same age.
very funny, Angel
GreenBeret7 – Other than the obvious with Venditte, how hard does the kid throw and what pitches.
Also, anyone know what the plan is for Kelvin De Leon this year?
My mistake, Venditte pitched right handed to the 1st and 3rd hitters and left handed to the second batter.
I’d say more than half of these people on these forums are ignorant and panic WAY too early/easily. Keeping it classy.
ANgel get my vote for “poster of the game” who do I send the text to?
JP you stomping your feet like a baby while you say that ?
Woohoo! You got the trifecta, Uncle Ellsworth.
I gotta say, tallying at least kept me amused during the game thread.
didnt really expect much from tonight, halladay owns us afterall, i also think aj wasnt that bad, walks killed him and just bad pitches in the 8th. pena continues to impress me and damon is hot hot hot.
tomorrow is a new day, new game. arod also hit in the clutch today! lol
Angel
Time to institute a 3 whines and you’re out rule.
JP pound salt!
LOL Angel
Good stuff.
Hey guys, I just got back from the game at the Rogers Center. Fans were relentless with A.J. tonight. Also when they weren’t booing A.J. they were giving it to Melky. In the 8th Melky started giving it back to the crowd and even gave the finger at one point. The Yanks looked helpless against Halladay. It seemed barely any balls left the infield.
ahahaha did somebody really compare Jeter to a ford taurus ahahaha thats priceless
Carl, we have to be realistic about this – it doesn’t do any good to sugarcoat things. The Yankees are in a very untenable position : they’re old and injury prone, their SP has not been that good, the pen has been atrocious and their hitting has been up and down. I think CC will be fine…..AJ will be up and down – Andy should be solid (though not great) most outs – Joba will be up and down and who knows what to expect from Wang? It’s mid-May and the rotation is just not that great. Its’ going to be hard to fix the pen – hard, if not impossible – and honestly, Tex is brutal at this point. I think it’s possible for the team to tread water and keep at around .500, but the other teams are playing very well and treading water probably won’t be enough.
Josh
Why Melky?
Look Johnny, I didn’t call him a bust.. I’ve watched more baseball over my 42 years then you can imagine. Give these guys big money and they falter.. It happens!! I’m very educated with baseball. Sure it’s early. The season is about 20% done.. So 6.5 games back isn’t anything serious except for the fact that there are 3 other teams better than the Yanks right now with less payroll and less stars. This team is old and it’s showing more and more each day. I don’t turn a blind eye to what is evident. There’s another NY team the Yanks should take a page from the Jets. Rex Ryan and Mike Tannebaum and Woody Johnson. They know how to put a team together. It may be football, but it’s still team management. Not to mention they’ve done it over a short period of time.
I think we are closer to seeing Austin Jackson than some would imagine. It’s really starting to feel like the year they got desperate and brought up Wang and Cano. AJax has hit consistently so far this year at AAA. You certainly don’t want to rush him too early, but with the injuries racking up and the lack of athelticism, he is an obvious answer. Gardner simply isn’t doing much that Austin Jackson can’t do in his sleep right now, play defense, run, etc.
With no post-game interviews on My09 (which sucks), we didn’t get to hear what AJ had to say. I guess he was surprised at the ferocity of the boos based on how he was cheered off the field last year, but I’m not. The fans there never really liked him and he did join the enemy. For the most part, he handled it ok………..but again, those late runs.
chicks dig me … cause i rarely wear underwear … and when i do … its usually something unusual.
Betsy May 12th, 2009 at 10:00 pm
Carl, we have to be realistic about this – it doesn’t do any good to sugarcoat things. The Yankees are in a very untenable position : they’re old and injury prone, their SP has not been that good, the pen has been atrocious and their hitting has been up and down. I think CC will be fine…..AJ will be up and down – Andy should be solid (though not great) most outs – Joba will be up and down and who knows what to expect from Wang? It’s mid-May and the rotation is just not that great. Its’ going to be hard to fix the pen – hard, if not impossible – and honestly, Tex is brutal at this point. I think it’s possible for the team to tread water and keep at around .500, but the other teams are playing very well and treading water probably won’t be enough.
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right on with this
So regarding Wang: 1-2 more starts in AAA then a return? Or maybe even sooner than that?
Terry from NH May 12th, 2009 at 10:00 pm
There’s another NY team the Yanks should take a page from the Jets. Rex Ryan and Mike Tannebaum and Woody Johnson. They know how to put a team together. It may be football, but it’s still team management. Not to mention they’ve done it over a short period of time.
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HAHAHAHAHAHHAHA. What a ridiculous comment! You really should not have freedom of speech. You do realize you’re commenting on a product that has NO RESULTS right now? You may be 42 years old, but what you have in age you lack in education.
Melky gave the crowd the finger? Stupid
Melky gave the crowd the finger? Stupid
John, regarding Austin Jackson–I agree…Gardner has had his chance, time for him to get back where he belongs.
Isn’t that the truth, pat? They’d keep Sargento’s in business with all the cheese needed to accompany the “whines”.
Good thing, I didn’t also make it a drinking game.
Pat,
Well at first it was just a few loud mouths chirping, but then they started the Melky sucks chants and it caught on with a few sections. Problem was Melky continued to acknowledge them so they kept it up.
Also, I think it was the 8th inning, someone behind the Yankee bullpen tossed a bottle at one of the relievers. The police came and hauled the dude outta there pretty fast though.
It’s hard to believe that 5 weeks into the season the Yanks have put *8 players on the DL*.
At this rate they’ll set some type of record.
I read an article last week on the A’s 2009 injuries.
They had 7 guys on the DL all ready this year and the article said they set a record last year with 25 guys on the DL. (I think that was a team record, not a MLB record)
At this rate you wonder if the trainers and strength and conditioning guys are blameless.
Use the Jets as a model??? Are you serious? They haven’t even played a game yet? They could be the same old Jets with a different face. And it’s a completely different sport. The Yankees don’t simply take their first pick and throw him out there. It’s years in the minors for most. The Yankees kept the championship teams alive for years bringing in free agents and have spent time the past years trying to rebuild the system. The guys they signed this year they have no one close to contributing on that type of level.
So when the Yankees try to get younger next year and Damon, Nady and Matsui are gone, who is playing the OF without going for free agents? Who will be playing shortstop for Jeter shortly after that.
I can name a thousand free agents that were signed and did work out well here and many were on our championship teams.
i have not seen a mess like this in 30 years.for those who say we be fine give your head a shake. this is ugly.
Really? there are better things to chant than “Melky sucks”…I mean, really? of all people…
If it was a question of replacing Gardner with Austin Jackson it would probably still be a mistake, but Melky is playing over his head right now, he’s fine. No reason at all to replace him with Jackson, and no way Jackson is replacing another outfielder. He stays in Scranton.
Hey Rudy…They did go to the playoffs last year. More than I can say about the Yanks.. You must be a Pats fan. You’re gonna be quite surprised this year with the Jets. Of course, there’s no results right now—- it’s OFFSEASON IDIOT!! Brett Favre was the reason the Jets lost in the end. HAHAHHAHHHAA!! Tootie Fruity Rudy!
Burnett handled the crowd pretty well for the most part. Issues came when he started handing out free pases to 1st base. he was dealing up until the 4th inning.
Funny part is the attendance was over 43,000. The attendance never goes over 20,000 unless the Yankees or Red Sox come to town. I don’t understand why they come out cheer like crazy and then thats it for the year.
ok so here’s the plan.
fire girardi, cash, and tex. bench Jeter and make Pena our new captain. Move Swish to the bullpen (hes getting so many strikeouts lately!), and tell Veras and Edwar to find new hobbies. Bring back Clemens, pick up Barry Bonds (for that minimum 500,000 of course), and trade andy+AJ for Hallday.
Oh, and trade cc for pavano.
“There’s another NY team the Yanks should take a page from the Jets. Rex Ryan and Mike Tannebaum and Woody Johnson. They know how to put a team together.”
Eh NFL and MLB. Apples and Oranges. I am optimistic about the Jets however
I think Melky was caught off guard with all the attention. I’m sure he’s not used to away crowds giving him any attention.
franky b May 12th, 2009 at 10:07 pm
i have not seen a mess like this in 30 years.for those who say we be fine give your head a shake. this is ugly.
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almost as good as saying it’s early after every loss
It also bothers me to say that about AJ because he’s by far my favorite new Yankee and one of my favorites period – but it looks like hiscontract is a bad one. I’m still not ready to say that for sure because I think he’s going to get hot sooner rather than later…….but the tendency to give up late inning runs is disturbing. I didn’t like seeing that last week against Tampa and now these two runs here that totally put the game away.
The Yanks have a chance to right things by taking the next two, but my word – every win is like pulling teeth, nothing comes easy.
Josh
In a strange kind of way, that’s a compliment to Melky. Until you’ve been booed and heckled, you haven’t really arrived.
Terry from NH May 12th, 2009 at 10:08 pm
Hey Rudy…They did go to the playoffs last year. More than I can say about the Yanks.. You must be a Pats fan. You’re gonna be quite surprised this year with the Jets. Of course, there’s no results right now——it’s OFFSEASON IDIOT!! Brett Favre was the reason the Jets lost in the end. HAHAHHAHHHAA!! Tootie Fruity Rudy!
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Clearly my point went right over your head, that’s understandable judging from what I’ve read from you. I’m not even going to acknowledge your post because it lacks any sense – and no, I’m a Giants fan.
John
May 12th, 2009 at 9:56 pm
GreenBeret7 – Other than the obvious with Venditte, how hard does the kid throw and what pitches.
Also, anyone know what the plan is for Kelvin De Leon this year?
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Right handed, he has a 90-92 MPH fastball, curve, changeup and slider. Left handed, a curve, changeup and an 82-84 MPH fastball. He has control of everything.
I don’t understand all the panic. In realty the Yankees weren’t expected to win this game. Halladay is the most dominant and dependable starter in baseball today. Also, the Yankees line-up today was less that steller. Swisher has been a K machine lately.
Does anyone know what happened with Matsui?
I don’t understand all the panic. In realty the Yankees weren’t expected to win this game. Halladay is the most dominant and dependable starter in baseball today. Also, the Yankees line-up today was less that steller. Swisher has been a K machine lately.
Does anyone know what happened with Matsui?
Angel, you are blinded by the fact that Jeter is a great Yankee hero which is true. But the fact is that if Jeter doesn’t get his 200 hits and 100+ runs scored, he’s an offensive liability. That’s why they moved him to leadoff this year. Now he’s already a defensive liability in the most important defensive position on the field. He cannot bat .273 at that position because there are many superlative SS that can do a better job in the field and give the Yankees .250. That lack of production is more than made up with the 5-6 hits saved per week. Jeter’s been great but he needs to have a comeback year this year and he’s looking really tired in the field.
You should be optimistic about the Jets. They made leaps and bounds last year before Brett tanked the season for them. With that defense and running game, there should be less pressure for the QB to succeed.. Ala, Joe Flacco! All it takes is a system to succeed.. Can anyone honestly say they know what the Yanks system is?? Small ball-NO.. Pitching- erratic.. Defense- on occasion.. They have no system.. They sit and wait for the 3-run HR year in and year out..
Pat,
I agree. Melky has been playing great for the most part, so it’s deserved. It’s just too bad the bottom of the line-up looks like something the Pirates or Nationals would trot out.
Nick in SF
May 12th, 2009 at 9:54 pm
“That’s kind of an oversimplification but yes, of course I meant it.”
Would you care to elaborate in a non-simplified manner? I would like to understand your point.
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Probably one of those super-subtle observations that don’t fly on a board like this. Unfortunately for me, you’re a thoughtful cookie, so let me be brief:
I think ARod provokes an uneasy ambivalence in certain people (males of a certain makeup, let us say, and the ‘failed frat boys” does not literally mean they were all kids who were in college fraternities). As to why he would provoke those feelings, I’m sure you can well guess. He ain’t John Wayne – he’s a very interesting character, too interesting to easily define, and that is troubling to people who like their home run hitters two-dimensional. Best I can do, but you’d probably have to be in the Stadium and hear some of the comments to really appreciate the conclusion…
i dont think you can call it “ugly” we are 15-17 not very good but it could be worse. going 0-5 with boston really killed our record. we have a good team, everything just hasnt fallen in place yet. if we arent at least 5 games over .500 by june though we will be digging a very deep hole to get out of.
Clearly the Yankees should be following the business model of the Barcelona Football Club, I mean DUH!!!
so i jump ship in hong kong, and i make my way over to tibet, and i get a job as a looper over in the himalayas, and who do you think they give me … MARK TEXIERA
the ghost-
youre blinded by the fact that youre dumb.
pena aint replacin good ol Jete!
De Leon going to Staten Island for short season, most likely, along with Sosa and, I imagine, Urena. I’ll get a good look at him when they start playing in June, as it’s about 45 minutes from me.
Walk off walk for the Mets after trailing all night. Ouch for Hotlanta!
I know Tex is a slow starter but riding the interstate into mid-May is pretty scary. Everything is pop-up, K or walk.
I am sorry I referred to Derek Jeter as the Ford Taurus of shortstops. Defensively he is closer to a Ford Pinto. Overall, I would rate him Mercedes C-Class or a Porsche Boxster. Basically- entry level luxury.
It’s upside-down bizarro world.
The Yanks have sent 8 players to the DL and Carl Pavano hasn’t missed a start for Cleveland.
No Yankee pitcher has more than two wins, and Pavano has three wins for Cleveland.
come on Magic
The Ghost,
Its mid may, lets see of Jete is at .273 in a couple months.
Josh, actually I’m not that upset about the loss – I expected it. It’s not panic at all, just honest assessment of the team – it’s not that good, despite the talent. It only matters what’s happening on the field – and they are severely underperforming. That said, I do think the team has a lot of heart – they’re doing their best to keep their heads above water. With every loss, though, they lose ground – and they have have multiple teams ahead of them. It’s hard to make up significant ground when you have to jump that many teams…….
Josh
Matsui = hamstring tightness. He’s day to day.
AJ Burnett: not a bad pitcher, but another NY bust. I practically prayed that we wouldn’t sign him.
Rishi
May 12th, 2009 at 10:07 pm
Really? there are better things to chant than “Melky sucks”…I mean, really? of all people…
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It may go back to that HR he hit at the Real Yankee Stadium off Halladay. The ace was unhappy that Melky came out to wave to the crowd for curtain call when he was in the middle of his delivery. Or something like that.
I think Halladay might have been even more irritated with 314, lol. He cursed the park after Melky’s “shot” just snuck over the fence in right.
Thanks for the follow-up, bodhi. I’m going to chalk this up as a very specific sociological observation on your part which may, in specific instances you have observed, have some merit but which, in general, perhaps doesn’t really hit its target.
Maybe sometimes a boo is just a boo? And a clownish fan is just a clown? And ‘failed frat boy’ is too stereotypical?
The Yanks have sent 8 players to the DL and Carl Pavano hasn’t missed a start for Cleveland.
No Yankee pitcher has more than two wins, and Pavano has three wins for Cleveland.
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We really have entered the twilight zone
“i have not seen a mess like this in 30 years.for those who say we be fine give your head a shake. this is ugly.”
The Yankees were 21-27 under Torre a few years ago. 21-27.
I always laugh when people make these types of comments here.
ahaha Nick in SF youre my hero
I can’t wait until Bruney comes back and then they can give the 7th inning to Coke. A ton of runs have been given up by the Yankee starting pitchers in the 6th inning and later. Since the bullpen has been so bad Girardi makes the starting pitchers go 110+ pitches and the other team to get tack on runs. It has been especially bad in the 7th inning.
Al from BK
May 12th, 2009 at 10:19 pm
I know Tex is a slow starter but riding the interstate into mid-May is pretty scary. Everything is pop-up, K or walk.
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Jeter was hitting .177 on May 8th and .187 on May 19th, of 2004. It happens.
Franky B,
30 Years Huh? Where were you in 1990?
To be honest its a miracle that we are as close to .500 as we are.
Sorry- if jeter is a Ford, he is clearly a Ford Escape
“It also bothers me to say that about AJ because he’s by far my favorite new Yankee and one of my favorites period – but it looks like hiscontract is a bad one.”
He’s had what 6 starts and his contract is a bad one already? OMFG!
Just stop, please. Go to bed and enjoy the sunshine tomorrow.
Celtics with 13 unanswered points to take the lead….
what a comeback… and what a “Mets” choke by Orlando
Its sickening when you realize just how far Boston has surpassed NY in terms of sports teams. sickening.
Pitching wins hampionships
And right now ,we have the highest ERA in baseball
Have some of you decided AJ is a bust 6 weeks into a 5 year contract? Really?
Jayson Werth stole home tonight: (from CNNSI.com)
“Werth surprised the Dodgers on Tuesday night when he took off on a slow toss from catcher Russell Martin to reliever Ronald Belisario. His run gave the Phillies a 5-2 lead and the crowd gave him a standing ovation.”
Never seen that. Swipe home while the catcher throws back to the pitcher
Nick in SF
May 12th, 2009 at 10:22 pm
Thanks for the follow-up, bodhi. I’m going to chalk this up as a very specific sociological observation on your part which may, in specific instances you have observed, have some merit but which, in general, perhaps doesn’t really hit its target.
Maybe sometimes a boo is just a boo? And a clownish fan is just a clown? And ‘failed frat boy’ is too stereotypical?
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And sometimes a cigar is just a cigar? Like I said, not for this board. If this were another environment, or a less conventional board, I’d post a hilarious email from my brother on this subject (suffice it to say, I don’t think my social observation is all that unique, but let that go).
My apologies to you if you were in a fraternity.
Never said I was a diplomat…;)
Pat – Thanks for the Matsui news.
Betsy – I agree that it’s not time for panic. You can tell this Yankee team does have a little more heart than usual, but the bounces don’t seem to be going their way. It seems that when they do lose, it’s in a convincing fashion and don’t show much fight, but then again that lies on the Starting Pitcher keeping it close. I’m plenty optimistic that they can win the series with Pettitte and Sabathia going.
What worries me is the fact the Yankee hitters always have fits with young pitchers they haven’t seen.
new post with health updates
Thanks, Johnny B, but you should choose a better hero!
“Its sickening when you realize just how far Boston has surpassed NY in terms of sports teams. sickening.”
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the misery you consistently bring to the blog is equally as sickening.
true or not… you are one miserable SOB.
Hey Boston Dave,
why does that make me sickening? i didnt know they had internet access at hostels
“Hey Boston Dave,
why does that make me sickening? i didnt know they had internet access at hostels”
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the misery you constantly bring is sickening.
I didn’t say you were sickening. your attitude is.
How anyone can say Burnett is a bust is beyond me?
What misery? saying that Pena is a better defensive SS than jeter? saying that the blackhawks, celtics and redsox are better than the rangres, knicks and yankees? yes… i am really miserable
“How anyone can say Burnett is a bust is beyond me?”
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he hasn’t lived up to expectations over the first 4% of his contract.
he has the other 96% to improve.
“What misery? saying that Pena is a better defensive SS than jeter? saying that the blackhawks, celtics and redsox are better than the rangres, knicks and yankees? yes… i am really miserable”
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it’s not just a river in Egypt.
doris give it up i dont think anybody is going to back you up on your whole Pena campaign.
for the record, nobody gives a crap about hockey, but last time i checked the rangers made it to the playoffs and took it to 7 games….and nobody cares about the knicks either. NY still has football too
Pat, you’re talking to a huge AJ fan here, so no – obviously I don’t think he’s a bust. I also said that I was not yet at the point where I’m conceding his contract as a bad one…..I also said that I expect him to get hot and sooner rather than later. Considering that most fans hated the contract anyway, I guess there’s no way that AJ could be considered a bust. You’d have to think highly of someone for that to be the case.
Sorry, but anyone calling Burnett a “bust” on May 12th lacks wit.
the only bust I can think of is the Yankee bats. Every year is the same thing. Since 2004, the yankee bats have been the reason for losing games. Every close game, the bats let our pitchers down. Burnette and Sabathia have done their jobs. How many runners have the Yankees left in scoring position this year. All those games could have been won!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thank God arod’s back, all problems solved!
Don’t count on Arod, that fake hip injury was just an attempt to delay the inevitable – that he’s going to be Angel Berroa now that he’s off the juice.
AJ Burnett isn’t a bust – he is what he is – a slightly above average pitcher. His whip is slightly worse this year but there is a reason the guy is a lifetime .500 pitcher with an ERA+ of 110 and WHIP of 1.285. He isn’t going to get better just because Cashman overpaid for him.
Don’t know if this will post in a timely manner. But both Jeter and Matsui are on the 30 DL.