Updates on Wang, Jeter and Matsui
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No decision has been made on Chien-Ming Wang, who threw six shutout innings in AAA tonight. It sounds like he might make one more start there then be slotted into the rotation.
“I felt very good today,” Wang said. “Mostly I can keep my sinkers down. I can feel the difference. Stronger, better balance. Of course I want to get back as soon as possible. But it’s really not my call. If they as me to pitch one more time here, that’s all I can do.”
As for Derek Jeter, he said the oblique started bothering him last week on the homestand. He hopes to play tonight.
“It’s just sore but it hasn’t gotten any better,” Jeter said. “I’ve pulled that muscle before and been on the disabled list two or three weeks. I’m trying to avoid that.”
Matsui said he could have stayed in the game and that his hamstring issue was more of a cramp. “I’m fine,” said after the game. “It feels better.”
As for the game, there’s not much to say. You can’t give up two runs and expect to beat Halladay, never mind five.
The Yankees are now 6.5 out after 32 games. They were three out after 32 games last season. They’re 6-11 in the last 17 games and 5-12 against the East. It’s still early, but it isn’t that early.
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Chad Jennings
Sam Borden
Pitching wins hampionships
And right now ,we have the highest ERA in baseball
Fire Cash, hire a good GM and begin a fire sale!!
In this division, treading water is not going to cut it
Boston has plenty of issues and they are still 8 games over
Tampa won’t be as good as last year, but they’ll be in the hunt all year
And Toronto has sick pitching. Their lineup will cool off but they can stay in the race with that rotation.
Eventually, we need a 8-9 game winning streak and get over .500 and stay there. How long can we keep treading water for?
doget swept
Don t get swept or else it will be 8.5 back and thats a lot of ground for these underachievers to make up.
The Yankees can’t go out all year and play poorly against the rest of the AL East and hope they’ll just kinda cool off. You can’t depend on them failing – eventually you have to start winning.
I cant stand watching this team. What a horrible season so far.
I thought this would be a good team back in February. I guess I was wrong. What a disaster.
scott b you said it best. and when does it get to the point where you start firing managers. i think eiland and long are getting to their breaking point along with all the strength and conditioning coaches. with all these injuries somebody isnt doing their job. i cant really say fire cash because he did bring in tex, aj and cc.
They cant itch, cant hit in the clutch and are the most fragile team in Pro Sports.
2-2 since Arod’s return.
I thought he was going to make a difference?
As George King would say, the Yankees are almost DDD – Definately done dancing.
A lot of you set yourselves up for disappointment with Burnett.
Rather than accepting him as our #3 starter with strikeout stuff behind CC/Wang, some of you tried to convince yourselves that he has turned the corner and he is going to be an ace and dominate and become some kind of star pitcher here.
He has shown nothing in his career to indicate any of that. He is a typical case of a guy with a golden arm and mediocre results. There are dozens of those guys scattered throughout baseball. He has a 3.81 career ERA. I’d take that any day for my #3. The problem is some of you tried to make him more than that.
Those boom/bust guys will break your heart.
This is going to be a painful blog to read until 7PM tomorrow.
Hopefully the Yankees will win so there will be a reprieve for at least 24 hours.
Cashman/Hal seemed to have developed an Isiah/Dolan type relationship.
Like Dolan, Hal admittedly knows little about the sport and will lean on his GM.
Girardi will probably get fired in the summer sometime, but that is like putting a band aid on a cut open leg. It is a cosmetic move.
“doget swept”
It is a dog et dog world.
If Jeter is admitting to an injury, it must be pretty bad. I don’t want to see him “tough it out.” Keep him out until he’s healthy.
The timing of the lament on here is off – we just faced Halladay. Why don’t people at least wait and see if we can win the series.
Wolf man,
Bingo. Anyone who has followed Burnett (even if it is through reading scouting reports or looking at his game logs) knows that he has a propensity to blow up on the mound and have big innings. Such is the life of a 2 pitch pitcher with mediocre control.
Hardly surprising that he carried that here. A tiger can’t change its stripes. Some pitchers have that problem, nothing can be done. Well actually, he could use his change up more, but he is too stubborn for that. He is what he is.
This team needs to get healthy I felt like I was watching ST with Cash, Pena, and Gardner in the line-up. That is the root of the problem hopefully we get all of our injuries out of the way now so we can make a run later.
Like I said before the game, this is a game you expect to lose.
What they do in the next 2 against Richmond and Tallet is what matters.
Whatever happens though, there’s no way this team is a winning one with Melky, Gardner, Pena, and Cervelli/Cash all in the same lineup.
hard to belief we were only 3.5 games out last year after the same amount of games..scary actually
Watch Joe play Matsui tomorrow, lol……
Richmond and Tallet are no slouches either.
We’ve never faced Richmond, he is a 30 yr old “prospect” in the mold of Mike Palmer who owned us last weekend (though Richmond’s stuff is much better).
Tallet had one bad start in KC which skewed his ERA.
Time for Pettitte to step up and CC to continue his dominance. But it doesn’t mean much if they can’t score runs.
i dont understand why everyone is getting all worked up about todays loss.
I thought it was an expected loss since halladay has been excellent so far, i know every loss is frustrating but there is no need to get all doom and gloom after this one.
we just took 2 out of 3 from the orioles and hopefully we will do the same with the jays.
Two major things happened tonight in the Yankeeverse:
1: The betting underdog Yanks lost on the road to the league’s best pitcher. No real surprise unless you think that the Yanks are supposed to win every game.
2. Chien-ming Wang pitched 6 innings of shutout ball down in Scranton. Shutting out the Charlotte Knights for 6 innings hasn’t always proven to be a sure sign that a pitcher is bound for Cooperstown, but it’s about as good as we could possibly expect from Wang in his first real assignment.
Which one of these developments will prove to be more important as the season unfolds? Only time will tell.
another new post
The Shamwow Guy
10:35 pm
Don t get swept or else it will be 8.5 back and thats a lot of ground for these underachievers to make up.
10:35 pm
I cant stand watching this team. What a horrible season so far.
10:38 pm
As George King would say, the Yankees are almost DDD – Definately done dancing.
10:36 pm
I thought this would be a good team back in February. I guess I was wrong. What a disaster
10:37 pm
They cant itch, cant hit in the clutch and are the most fragile team in Pro Sports.
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Dude… have a drink and chill out.
Bob(The Original)
May 12th, 2009 at 10:45 pm
Like I said before the game, this is a game you expect to lose.
What they do in the next 2 against Richmond and Tallet is what matters.
Whatever happens though, there’s no way this team is a winning one with Melky, Gardner, Pena, and Cervelli/Cash all in the same lineup.
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By all means, let’s get Melky and his circa 400 OBP out of the lineup. That’s sure to buoy the offense.
bodhi: read your reply on the previous thread. No offense taken, but you never know who’s behind these screen names or what diverse experiences they might bring to the table.
Who put these fingerprints on my imagination?
Doh! “Better cut off all identifying labels” was the obvious quote to use there!
TD123
May 12th, 2009 at 10:40 pm
Girardi will probably get fired in the summer sometime, but that is like putting a band aid on a cut open leg. It is a cosmetic move.
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More likely that the Yankees spoil your scenario and put a run together into June to climb back in it. Girardi won’t be fired then.
“They cant itch, cant hit in the clutch”
When a baseball player can’t scratch an itch – it’s time to think about hanging up the cleats.
Nick in SF
May 12th, 2009 at 10:53 pm
Doh! “Better cut off all identifying labels” was the obvious quote to use there!
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You can please yourself, but somebody’s gonna GET IT…
Interesting, but it’s the “identifying label(ists) that are doing the labeling,” and it’s Alex who is perpetually on the torture table.
Though you say I’m unkind – I’m being as nice as I can
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Jeter should go on the dl.
*Whatever happens though, there’s no way this team is a winning one with Melky, Gardner, Pena, and Cervelli/Cash all in the same lineup.*
Oh, you mean the same Melky who’s .333/.403/.524? Oh, okay. Let’s get him out of there.
What we are missing is Torre and no pitcher or fielder or bat can replace him in the fishbowl that is New York. Hank, Cash and Levine are looking like fools while Joe dominates in LA. Karma’s a bitch. Joe deserved to close Yankee stadium and he deserved to open the new stadium. He earned that right. I think Girardi is best suited with lower profile teams with few superstar egos. Being a stat-head is only going to get you so far.
Yankees are now 5-12 against AL East teams and 2-9 against the teams in that division they really have to beat.
Currently there’s question marks about every position except left field, and DH is an issue, too.
Only three of the starters are showing any life, and there’s only two viable bull pen options to go to.
The team is looking pretty wheezy 35 games into the campaign.
Some of these issues will work themselves out, yet others will be lingering problems.
6.5 games out at this point is not especially dire, but, the team has to turn it around pretty soon if they want to make a go of it this season.
Eiland must go, and if we continue to struggle – everyone does. Except Pena, he’s the best.
Why is Melky being blamed for us not being a winning team? Is he this year’s Arod?
I have a question. If we dont make the playoffs will they definatley fire Girardi and his staff? How long of a contract did he sign? I cant live with this team not making the playoffs and Girardi coming back.
This team needs an experienced manager of ego’s. We need a Leyland, Pinella, Larussa, Torre type guy that’s been there before, has a good staff, experience, etc. Yankee players would listen to a guy like this and he would know how to get the best of them. Girardi is perfect for AA guys….not MLB players with $100 million dollar contracts.
The Yankees didn’t beat one of the best pitchers in baseball, and some of you are surprised??
The Yankees score off of so-so starters from the 5th inning on, and games they have won have mostly been off of weak starters and weak bull pens., Go back and look at who we scored runs off and how we scored.
Look at the solo HRS that we hit, look at Cano’s stats and then look and see how he got them, all with no one on base, mostly. Most of his hits never come in a big spot, he has Arod syndrom, lots of stats not much production. He is so anxious with men on base he fails near ever single time, and if the spot is big for a tie or a go ahead run you can count on the GIDP, or weak pop up.
Tex is a joke at this point and needs a Sports shrink. No one that good should play that bad for that long. Sorry, he is a mental midget at this point.He swings at balls and stares at strikes.
All of you that are laying blame on the “kids” did you see us winning more with Posada, Mo, Jeter, Matsui, or Nady in the line up?? Do any of you watch the games and see what these guys are swinging at?? Do you watch Jeter try to get up after diving back to first on a throw over from the pitcher??? He looks like he is 60 years old and has fallen and can’t get up.
Did any of you see any sort of situational hitting on this team, any productive outs even?? Any agressive plays from the manager?? Any hit and runs?? Any double steals?? Oh thats right you would actually have to have “in game” skills to do that, and not have every hitter swinging for the fences.
Do we need a refresher course on the amount of times this season alone we have had a man on 3rd and no outs and failed to score???
This team is in shambles. The players are not responding to the manager, or the strength and conditioning regiments they are under,, and diagnosis of injurys are sub par, and we cause most of our own injury problems.
Tex said it best after yet another loss last week. “we found another way to lose”. Yep, that about says it.
Needs for this team are many, but at this point be prepared for this season to be a let down as the front office keeps its head in the sand, and the manager and GM spend most of their time blaming injuries, bad luck, and “slow starts” when in reality they are the ones that are responsible for all of it in one way or another.
I still will watch, As I have from 1960. I have seen worse teams for the Yankees, but never worse effort. Well I did from some individual players, but never from the whole oraganization from top to bottom.
Go Yankees.
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HAHAHAHA What did I just say about Cano and his over anxious Ab’S with men on base. Either GIDP or a pop up. This time a pop up, against a pitcher than can’t throw strikes and when he does its right down the middle and tthis stat padder pops up weakly to the outfield. Nice. Yea lets keep him around he is doing much better this year, (for himself).
This isn’t a team, its 25 guys playing baseball for themselves. Anyone that doesn’t see that should apply to the Yankees as a coach. The ones they have now have a job with the Yankees and they can’t see it either. Total BS is what I see. All led by a manager who wouldn’t know how to manage a game if his life was on the line. Cano goes to the plate and with men on base and the guy infront of him getting a walk he swings at the first pitch, and fouls off the second one and is 0 ans 2 before the next batter weas in the on deck circle. Sad.