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Some mid-day thoughts and an unexpected Stadium critique …

Posted by: Sam Borden - Posted in Misc on May 19, 2009 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

I’m getting ready to head into the city shortly for a TV thing before going over to the Stadium, but here are a few thoughts before we get the game post up and running:

1. CC Sabathia, who starts tonight, wears baggy pants. How does he get them so baggy? I watched yesterday as he spent a solid five minutes stretching one pair out. First he laid the pants on the floor. Then he stepped on the right leg with both feet. Then he grabbed the left leg with both hands and pulled it up and over his shoulder (remember, he’s 6-foot-7) as if he was carrying a sack of laundry or something. Then he reversed the process and did the other side. The pants didn’t stand a chance.

2. I know many of you have been debating what roster move the Yankees should make to get Brian Bruney active, and I can understand why there would be a variety of opinions. The only solid info Joe Girardi gave yesterday was that it was very unlikely the team will go with 13 pitchers, meaning those hoping Angel Berroa gets the ax will probably stay unhappy. If it were my move, I’d ship Jose Veras but the Yankees have shown an odd attachment to him (and to Edwar Ramirez). If I had to make a guess, I’d say Brett Tomko goes but again, that’s just speculation. Check back later for an update.

3. I took a walk on the main-level concourse last night to meet up with a friend and have to say I was impressed by the way the Stadium looked. As great as the old park was – and I would have been in favor of just renovating it and keeping the Yankees in their historic home – being able to see the game and hear the crowd while you’re waiting in line for some tasty garlic fries isn’t a bad experience either. Those walk-around concourses are a great stadium design element.

That said, it can’t be disputed that there have been problems with the new Stadium. Everything from Monument Park to ticket prices, empty seats to the still-not-great batting practice policy, not to mention all the homers and potential for fan interference. Amidst the outcries, the Yankees have generally been defensive about the park, sometimes to the point of arrogance.

Yesterday, though, Yankees senior vice president Felix Lopez was on WCBS and, according to one trusted listener, said this: “There are a lot of things wrong with this building we’re trying to fix. With the help of the fans and the media, we’re looking into everything.”

Understand, Lopez – who is married to George Steinbrenner’s daughter, Jessica – isn’t typically a big player in terms of Yankee machinations, but all the same — “There are a lot of things wrong with this building”? That’s strong. And, given all the heat that COO Lonn Trost and president Randy Levine have taken about the Stadium, it’s hard to imagine the rest of the Yankee brass being too pleased with Lopez’s … uh … honesty.

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356 Responses to “Some mid-day thoughts and an unexpected Stadium critique …”

  1. jennifer May 19th, 2009 at 12:09 pm

    Maybe the brass who said nothing was wrong could have one foot out the door?

  2. Uncle Ellsworth (relax Chief) May 19th, 2009 at 12:10 pm

    All those problems don’t amount to a hill of beans in this crazy world.

  3. burt bondi May 19th, 2009 at 12:11 pm

    Thanks for that info…very interesting

  4. Rishi May 19th, 2009 at 12:11 pm

    Brian (Chicago, IL): Although the Yanks are playing well right now, that bullpen is still an absolute disaster. What options do they have to possibly improve the bullpen? Are there any potential trade candidates? They are still a third place team with that bullpen.

    Rob Neyer: (12:10 PM ET ) I think that a weak bullpen is the best problem to have, because it can be fixed with a little luck and a couple of little trades.

  5. frankiedue May 19th, 2009 at 12:11 pm

    I was hoping they would keep Tomko to be mop-up/long man so that Aceves could take on more of a set-up role…

  6. Et tu? May 19th, 2009 at 12:11 pm

    Good point, Jenn.
    This could even be a Brutus-Caesar moment for Felipe, then.
    Time will tell….

  7. Tom in N.J. May 19th, 2009 at 12:11 pm

    Play it again. Sam.

  8. westchester dave May 19th, 2009 at 12:11 pm

    on an unrelated issue, but since food has been a concern on this blog. I was wondering about what is the best food at the new stadium. Last night I was sitting in the Jim Beam Suites and had a fish taco, which was surprisingly good. I was also impressed by the garlic fries at that stand.

  9. Stephen May 19th, 2009 at 12:12 pm

    Felix the Gardener for President!

  10. Bronx Jeers May 19th, 2009 at 12:13 pm

    I heard Lopez as well. Kept on waiting for him to be specific but he wasn’t playing that hand.

    Sam, 3 words. Lobel’s Steak Sandwich. Behind the left field foul pole/ Field level.

  11. S.A.--Let's get ready to rumble! May 19th, 2009 at 12:14 pm

    The gardner speaks!

  12. gayle May 19th, 2009 at 12:15 pm

    I for one will not be happy if Tomko is the man sent down. I have wanted him on this team since Spring and I think he can serve a very nice role.

    Batting practice policy – it is now EXACTLy the way it was at the Old Stadium so people cannot complain that much. At the old stadium you could not go behind home plate unless you had a ticket either.

    Nice to see Landscaper Lopez speak some honesty wish Trost and Levine would have done the same.

    Yum on the garlic fries one of the best things food wise in the new place.

  13. S.A.--Let's get ready to rumble! May 19th, 2009 at 12:15 pm

    gah
    gardner=gardener

  14. Kevin in the 908 May 19th, 2009 at 12:15 pm

    Does Veras even have any options left?? I for some odd reason remember that Pete said Veras has no options left.

  15. Coach6423 May 19th, 2009 at 12:16 pm

    Veras has no options..

  16. S.A.--Let's get ready to rumble! May 19th, 2009 at 12:17 pm

    This was from a few days ago:

    A major league executive tells 1050 that he would not be surprised if the Yankees’ stadium debacle costs someone their job.

    COO Lonn Trost has been out front on the new Stadium. Trost reports to the team president Randy Levine. When something goes as wrong as the new stadium has, there is usually fallout. The exec says one or both could lose their jobs over it.

    http://stations.espn.go.com/st.....st=4168676

  17. vin May 19th, 2009 at 12:17 pm

    “And, given all the heat that COO Lonn Trost and president Randy Levine have taken about the Stadium, it’s hard to imagine the rest of the Yankee brass being too pleased with Lopez’s … uh … honesty.”

    I was listening to Felix with John and Suzyn when he said all that. I was very surprised that he boldly said that the stadium has a lot of problems and needs to be fixed. It just reeked of a guy trying to act like a spokesman, but not having the requisite polish.

    A lot of people give Cash a hard time for “not really saying anything,” but his meandering monologues do serve a purpose – especially in the NY market.

  18. gayle May 19th, 2009 at 12:18 pm

    Westchester Dave-

    Since we are on a food run will be going with a friend on Sunday who has Jim Beam Suite seats what are those like what are the amenities offered. First time sitting there.

    Also the Carl’s cheese steaks are great as well there is a nice stand near my seats in the main 200 level and have not had that good of a steak sandwhich at the park since i was at the Bank and had a Gino’s

  19. CountryClub May 19th, 2009 at 12:19 pm

    Kevin,

    No options left for Veras. That’s why the Yanks have been so stubborn. They love his arm and dont want to put him on waivers. Someone will definitely snap him up.

  20. Don Capone May 19th, 2009 at 12:20 pm

    I think Felix is going to be sent on a fishing trip soon…ala Fredo.

  21. tommy May 19th, 2009 at 12:20 pm

    Tex has, in his entire career, played on a lineup with plenty of protection. First he was in Texas. He had plenty of great hitters hitting behind him and in front of him, like Kinsler, Young, Blalock, etc. When he went to the Braves, they still had Chipper Jones, the best hitting switch hitter of his age (like literally, no 36 year old could touch him!) and Yunel Escobar, Brian McCann, etc.

    The next year he was traded to the Angels. They aren’t a great hitting lineup, but they still had half of Vlad Guerrero, Torii Hunter… and a bunch of guys who could hit singles.

    Point is, he always seems to have that one other big guy to take pressure off him. <– but this is just playing Devil’s advocate. I think Tex is a very good hitter, just not a superstar like Wright or A-Rod or Pujols.

  22. FrankieYankee May 19th, 2009 at 12:21 pm

    According to one of Pete’s posts, Veras has no options left but Albaladejo and Edwar do. I think Edwar is a ticking time bomb, can he really be trusted when he only throws two pitches and a batter can wait for a change up? His climb to the majors has been nice but he needs to develop a 3rd pitch, send him to AAA and keep Tomko. After watching Pena play, what are the Yanks doing with Berroa on this roster? Arod is progressing nicely. I would rather have a right handed power bat on the bench and all around good guy Shelley Duncan.

  23. Uncle Ellsworth (relax Chief) May 19th, 2009 at 12:21 pm

    Tips for Stadium:

    Use The Elevators!
    Use the outfield Gate (8) and check out the Bleacher cafe.
    There is a Retro Beer Stand (PBR Schlitz, Ballantine) across from the O’Neill Banner (seriously) but the price was only a little lower than Bud Coors etc

    Does anyone know what time would be good to see yanks batting practice on Sat 4:00 start – going with Neice and Nephews

  24. SJ44 May 19th, 2009 at 12:23 pm

    Knowing the Steinbrenner’s as I do, there is no way a Steinbrenner, whether through marriage or birthright, is going to fall on the sword, or take that blame, for ANY of the new stadium’s issues.

    That means, one of Trost or Levine is going to either have to fall on the sword or find a new gig at the end of the year.

    That’s the way the family rolls. In this case, somebody screwed up. Somebody is going to pay.

    Those have been the “Steinbrenner Rules” since George bought the club.

    As Hal figures out who he can trust in the organization and who he can’t, sooner or later somebody is going to lose their gig over this stuff.

    Its just a matter of who that is.

  25. No Way Jose May 19th, 2009 at 12:23 pm

    See ya Veras

  26. Tex's Friend (Soon the starting 5 will dominate again!) May 19th, 2009 at 12:24 pm

    Tomko will go down, but no idea why we still have berroa instead of an OF

  27. westchester dave May 19th, 2009 at 12:25 pm

    Gayle: This was my first time in the Jim Beam Suites and only my second time at the new Stadium, so I don’t have much to compare, but the seats were very cushy. In addition, the ticket permitted access to a restaurant (for those seated in the Jim Beam sedciton only) where you could watch the game in comfort on t.v. from the bar (good I guess if the weather was problematic), rest rooms without lines in the restaurant (not more elegant, but great that there weren’t lines), and very short lines at a Food Network licensed concession stand (offering fish tacos ($9), quarter pound burgers ($11) and I believe something else). There was also a pizza concession. I recommend the fish tacos.

  28. tommy May 19th, 2009 at 12:25 pm

    my point is it’s no coincidence that Tex has caught fire since A-Rod made his return.

  29. tommy May 19th, 2009 at 12:25 pm

    my point is it’s no coincidence that Tex has caught fire since A-Rod made his return.

  30. Guy Incognito May 19th, 2009 at 12:25 pm

    As a vegetarian, I can’t really speak to 90% of the food options at the new Stadium.

    The garlic fries, as posters upthread have mentioned, are good, but I suggest you eat them fast as they become pretty tough when they cool off.

    Nachos were the best buy in the old Stadium and they continue to be the best buy in the new Stadium. I believe you can get the Nachos Supreme at the “Cucina Latina” stand on the field level, first base side, with or without meat and with guacamole, sour cream, jalapenos, “cheez” and salsa (perhaps frijoles refritos as well, not sure) for $10. Regular nachos with jalapenos and “cheez” run $6 and are not worth it. Go for the Supreme as you can tell them “no sour cream” or what-have-you.

    The Mike’s Arthur Ave. Deli on the field-level food court has a pretty good eggplant parmigiana sandwich for $12. It’s okay…not great, not terrible.

    I haven’t tried the sushi or noodle bowl stands just yet. I may experience the latter secondhand on Friday, as my friend with whom I go to the games has a hankering for the noodle bowl.

    Realistically, it’s a pretty bleak place to be a vegetarian and want a meal. Your options are limited. This Friday, I am going to bring my first food into the Stadium in the form of Israeli couscous salad with feta, olives, scallions, peppers, basil, and olive oil as well as a nice fresh half-baguette, cherries, an apple, and a big bottle of water.

  31. Stop. May 19th, 2009 at 12:26 pm

    This was a PR tactic…and a good one. They saw how the Trost/Levine act was playing — not well. Now we have the good cop, Mr. Lopez, who will come in and admit to the problems and ‘feel our pain.’ Can’t fault them on this one – it’s smart. Felix is our guy on all things stadium. The others can quietly slither back to their offices.

  32. vin May 19th, 2009 at 12:31 pm

    I can’t see Tomko getting sent down. He served his time in SWB, and he has done nothing to earn the demotion – at least nothing worse than Edwar. Throughout the season, Girardi seems to prefer to use the following guys (from most critical, to least critical):
    Mo
    Bruney
    Coke
    Albaladejo
    Veras
    Edwar
    Marte
    (I’m leaving off the guys who haven’t appeared in many games yet)

    Albaladejo has been a go-to guy for Girardi; Veras can’t be demoted; therefore, Edwar will go.

  33. Christina (UPDATED:pictures from the Toronto series on my blog) May 19th, 2009 at 12:33 pm

    Since I can’t decide which guy I can’t stand more (regarding Trost or Levine), I think it would be wisest to just get rid of them both.

  34. Uncle Ellsworth (relax Chief) May 19th, 2009 at 12:34 pm

    this team gets better everyday and today it gets a lot better.

  35. Bronx Jeers May 19th, 2009 at 12:34 pm

    Well if there was ever going to be a sacrificial lamb one would think that Trost is the leading candidate after his ridiculous rant last week and the subsequent policy change a couple of days later.

    Personally, I’d love to can them both. They’ve made any and all fan-organization business dealings seem like a date with the IRS.

    The drums also seem to be beating for Sterling. Who makes that call? CBS or the Yanks.

  36. goirish May 19th, 2009 at 12:34 pm

    I noticed while at the game last night there was a new (or relocated) camera behind the plate on the main concourse that was off on the third base side. Presumably to get a camera angle not looking thru the screen. Remember Trost said the camera thru the screen wasn’t an issue?

  37. Brian May 19th, 2009 at 12:37 pm

    IIRC, Lopez was also saying on the radio that he encouraged fans to let the team know about any complaints they have.

  38. Uncle Ellsworth (relax Chief) May 19th, 2009 at 12:39 pm

    Westchester Dave

    so i can’t get a taco unless I’m in the Jim Beam Suite?

  39. Rishi May 19th, 2009 at 12:40 pm

    Brian (Hoboken): Why has there never been much discussion about putting Phil Hughes in the Yanks bullpen? Joba has 4-5 plus pitches, so it’d almost be a waste to put him back there. But Hughes has only 2 plus pitches, and has a recent history of injuries. He could be dominant in the 8th for awhile. I know the “Joba to the ‘pen” argument is old…so I’m starting a new one!

    Rob Neyer: (12:32 PM ET ) I think that’s one fine idea, Brian.

  40. SJ44 May 19th, 2009 at 12:41 pm

    Sterling has 2 more years on his contract. He isn’t going anywhere.

    What they should do is go on a national search in the off-season and bring in his replacement. Have that person do 3 innings a night to get his feet wet and used to the market.

    Giving Sterling 3 innings off will also help make him better because he is having an awful year to date.

    Especially tough to handle since the booth location in the new stadium is much better and he has a HD flat screen monitor in front of him. With those upgrades, its hard to believe he is missing so many calls.

    All that said, he is has been a great shill/spokesman for the organization. He is well liked by the Steinbrenner Family.

    Do they see him as a problem worthy of taking steps to find his replacement? I tend to doubt it.

    However, they should be proactive on this. This franchise deserves much better than the work product he is putting out so far this season.

    He, like the current bullpen, needs to upgrade his “game” before he is considered “playoff worthy” again.

  41. Boston Dave (in Portland, OR) - OPPC member May 19th, 2009 at 12:42 pm

    Sam,

    stop doing such a good job with the blog or we’re gonna start thinking Pete’s had it easy all this time.

  42. Boston Dave (in Portland, OR) - OPPC member May 19th, 2009 at 12:43 pm

    I vote for Trost. get him outta here.

  43. Mike May 19th, 2009 at 12:45 pm

    I hope they get rid of Trost, Levine, Sterling and Michael Kay.

    The first two are nothing but bumbling idiots who have tried to turn yankee stadium into a rich people only venue. I mean has anyone read the yankee brochure for the season tickets back in august 2008. All it talks about it luxury this and luxury that its disgusting.
    The last two are possibly the worst announcers in sports now that Madden has retired. Sterling is just a liar and doesnt call whats happening in the games (it takes 20 minutes to find out what the score is!). Also, listening to michael kay ramble on about nothing is like watching bob ross paint, it makes me pass out before the bottom of the first.

  44. Boston Dave (in Portland, OR) - OPPC member May 19th, 2009 at 12:47 pm

    “The first two are nothing but bumbling idiots who have tried to turn yankee stadium into a rich people only venue.”

    ——-

    I disagree, to an extent.

    There were always rich people in the best seats. They were just trying to extort even more money out of the rich.

    The rest of the seats aren’t much more than they used to be, are they?

    If there weren’t a recession, this wouldn’t be a major discussion.

  45. JohnC May 19th, 2009 at 12:48 pm

    Levine too. He is described as a ‘big bully’ byt other executives that deal with him around baseball and business. He is another reason the Yanks are disliked more and more around baseball. Joe Torre couldn’t stand him and I hear Cashman has no use for him either.

  46. Laura - Win together, strike out alone! May 19th, 2009 at 12:48 pm

    I wish people would stop bringing up that Veras is out of options. Who cares?!! He sucks and will suck for whatever team is stupid enough to claim him.

  47. Stop. May 19th, 2009 at 12:48 pm

    Stay classy, Mike.

  48. Boston Dave (in Portland, OR) - OPPC member May 19th, 2009 at 12:53 pm

    “Levine too. He is described as a ‘big bully’ byt other executives that deal with him around baseball and business. He is another reason the Yanks are disliked more and more around baseball. Joe Torre couldn’t stand him”

    ——–

    You’re probably right but every team needs an “enforcer”.

    Do you think Larry Lucchino is a nice guy? He’s a grade A SOB.

    The fact that Torre didn’t like him is probably a good thing. Torre turned out to be a bitter old man that didn’t like anybody on the Yankees not named Derek. Most people hate their old boss after they are shown the door.

    I’m not defending Levine, by any means, but I’m curious if anybody has any real insight into his value or perceived value to the team. Is the guy good or bad for the team?

    Like I said, being liked isn’t always a prerequisite for being effective.

  49. Phil May 19th, 2009 at 12:53 pm

    I would read Felix’s comments as “ownership is pissed about the problems with the stadium.”

  50. Betsy May 19th, 2009 at 12:56 pm

    Wright does not belong in the same breath as Pujols or Alex……

  51. Joey's Poodle May 19th, 2009 at 12:56 pm

    Trost reports, IIRC, to Levine, and anything he did had Randy’s stamp of approval. Getting rid of him would be a PR move but otherwise meaningless. The buck on everything he did stops with his very controlling boss.

    Love to see the last of the loathsome Levine. I’d have admired Torre even without all the rest of his Yankee history for being the one who had the nads to say (the words, not the initials), “STFU, Randy!”

  52. CountryClub May 19th, 2009 at 12:58 pm

    Laura,

    Someone asked the question about Veras…and then we answered it.

  53. stuart May 19th, 2009 at 12:58 pm

    few points.

    1. i cannot post from my home coputer, I wonder what the issues is.. is it a cookie issue, anyone have any ideas?

    2. the yanks lead baseball(I think) in walks given up. there pens desire to walk everyone is a mega issue..

    3. neyer is correct the pen is the easiest issue to fix, the yanks have options…

    4. ramirez, veras, and abeledajo walk way way to many guys. veras when he throws strikes is real good, they hit less the n230 on him but he is so wild.
    ramirez gives up way to many HR’s. abeledajo just walks to many, none of them can be remotely trusted…

    5. trost or levine will get whacked, steinbrenners of course will protect there family not a suprise…levine is a bully and he has always been one that is not a revelation.

    6. tomko is nothing if you are counting on him you will be disappointed. he has had about 12 years to get it right and has not yet..

    7. swisher needs a day off……

  54. S.o.S. May 19th, 2009 at 12:59 pm

    I was hoping one of you can answer this question. How many comeback games have we had this year? I would have to guess at least 14 games. What is the record for the most comebacks in a season?

  55. bodhisattva - OPPC member May 19th, 2009 at 12:59 pm

    Hughes having only 2 plus pitches is WHY he’s not going anywhere near the BP in MAY, unless the Yankees have completely cracked up.

    In an effort to make Hughes less predictable and give him more weapons to take advantage of those plus pitches, the Yankees have revamped his arsenal, adding in the cutter, switching out the old curve for new, and encouraging him to throw the change.

    The adjustments he’s been making would have to be abandoned were he to go the the BP. A decent changeup – doesn’t have to be world beating – would help Hughes enormously as a starter. The cutter is already helping, but he’s still learning to locate it. That knucke curve is pretty nasty already.

    As I’m sure everyone realizes, a poorly located cutter can yield ugly results (see Baltimore start) – like Wang when his sinker doesn’t sink (BTW, that sinker was pretty pedestrian the other day – I’d say give him another start down there).

    It’s not as if Hughes is simply needing to get ML hitters out – he’s been asked to redefine his whole arsenal, so that in the long run, he has a much better chance of consistently doing that. He also needs to build arm strength.

    The BP isn’t going to help him get there: he needs innings. He’s up temporarily because of Wang’s issues, not because he’s ready to rock the new pitches. Let this kid polish it up a little and then we can check in with him down the road later this season.

    In the mean time, he was resourceful in Friday’s start and learns something with each new outing. Somebody wrote on another site that tomorrow was Hughes’ “Last chance to prove himself.”

    Lol.

  56. Joey's Poodle May 19th, 2009 at 1:00 pm

    As for Levine’s value to the team, he was a City Hall pol in Giuliani’s administration who got involved in Giuliani’s efforts to build a new Stadium (in Manhattan) and was hired by the Yankees as they continued to maneuver for a new building — for his knowledge of the ins and outs of city regs, personnel, and politics.

    He served a purpose.

  57. SJ44 May 19th, 2009 at 1:01 pm

    Every organization in baseball has a Randy Levine type in it.

    Somebody who is the “bad guy” and who takes on the politicians to get what they want.

    David Samson does that in Florida and got 600+ million dollars of public money to build a stadium for a team nobody watches play.

    Larry Lucchino has gotten millions in public money and perks for the Red Sox as they continue to build their brand.

    Randy is not my favorite guy in the organization. He does however, play a role.

    Has his time come to a close? I don’t know.

    I do know that, as long as he stays out of baseball decisions, he’s basically harmless to everyday fans.

    The Stadium has and is Lonn Trost’s baby. The issues surrounding it are on him. How he handles it probably will determine his long term future in the organization.

  58. Boston Dave (in Portland, OR) - OPPC member May 19th, 2009 at 1:01 pm

    “Wright does not belong in the same breath as Pujols or Alex……”

    —–

    not as a power hitter but he’s doing a good job of getting his name into the perennial MVP discussion. If Pujols weren’t around, he might actual deserve it one of these years.

  59. REZ May 19th, 2009 at 1:02 pm

    “not as a power hitter but he’s doing a good job of getting his name into the perennial MVP discussion. If Pujols weren’t around, he might actual deserve it one of these years.”

    Bingo.

  60. stuart May 19th, 2009 at 1:02 pm

    i live in california. i have xm and listen to sterling often. he is terrible.. he is condensending, they have so many endorsements they must plug, he is innacurate often, he does not talk about the game ever, he is just bad..the only thing he does well are his signature home run and other theatrical calls.

    the mets announcers are much much better…

  61. Boston Dave (in Portland, OR) - OPPC member May 19th, 2009 at 1:02 pm

    “I do know that, as long as he stays out of baseball decisions, he’s basically harmless to everyday fans.”

    ——–

    good point.

    thanks SJ44

  62. curious May 19th, 2009 at 1:02 pm

    “Tex has, in his entire career, played on a lineup with plenty of protection. First he was in Texas. He had plenty of great hitters hitting behind him and in front of him, like Kinsler, Young, Blalock, etc. When he went to the Braves, they still had Chipper Jones, the best hitting switch hitter of his age (like literally, no 36 year old could touch him!) and Yunel Escobar, Brian McCann, etc.”

    you are overestimating how good Young and Blalock are. they’re not that good. also, Kinsler was not IAN KINSLER when Teixeira was in Texas.

    in other words, he’s just a slow starter. the rest of your theory doesn’t really hold up.

  63. Doreen May 19th, 2009 at 1:02 pm

    Mike -

    Sterling’s calls are horrendous. But I think his worst sin is what you mentioned – having to wait 20 minutes to get a score. It’s RADIO. There is no graphic to let you know the score (unless you have XM Radio). The score and inning status (top 2nd, 2 down, 5-3 Yanks) – need to be said often. Very often. If you get in your car and turn on the game at a random moment in the game, you should not end up parking the car at the local supermarket 5 to 10 minutes away without having heard the score.

  64. Travis May 19th, 2009 at 1:02 pm

    Torre, Dodgers slated to visit Yankee Stadium in 2010

    http://www.nypost.com/seven/05.....169933.htm

  65. Boston Dave (in Portland, OR) - OPPC member May 19th, 2009 at 1:03 pm

    “i live in california. i have xm and listen to sterling often.”

    ——-

    free Stern this week. Don’t miss it :)

  66. Christina (UPDATED:pictures from the Toronto series on my blog) May 19th, 2009 at 1:03 pm

    However, he serves no purpose anymore, so get him out of here.

  67. Bronx Jeers May 19th, 2009 at 1:03 pm

    “Sterling has 2 more years on his contract. He isn’t going anywhere.”

    Well that’s too bad. Any chance he hangs it up? He seems to be blind.

    You know I don’t even mind the guy but he just kills people with his mistakes. Especially when he goes into his HR shtick for a pop fly.

    He doesn’t use the TV, he always defers to Susan for replays.

    Baseball and radio are a great marriage. Historic, sentimental, etc. It’s just too bad that in the case of the Yankees, Sterling is acting as a home wrecker.

  68. jd jr May 19th, 2009 at 1:03 pm

    love the cc pants story!
    Bring energy , fill the seats, nothing else matters..still looks bad on tv w empties..
    Go yanks

  69. SJ44 May 19th, 2009 at 1:05 pm

    Trost doesn’t report to Levine. He reports to Hal.

    Randy and Trost both report to Hal.

    Hughes in the bullpen is a crazy idea. They have messed with this kid so much, why add more to his plate?

    His stuff isn’t crisp enough for bullpen work.

    Additionally, if command is his biggest issue (which it is), how is pitching out of the bullpen good for him or the team?

    In a perfect world, Wednesday is his last start in NY, he goes back to Scranton to work on his game, and Wang is back with the Yankees next week.

    Will it work out that way? Time will tell.

  70. stuart May 19th, 2009 at 1:05 pm

    I have not given up on hughes anyone who has is a fool. the guy is 22. he pitched ok his last outing. he gave up 3 in 5 innings and had to battle.

    most fans are fools with no patience you give up on 22 yr old studs at your own peril. how did that work out for houston and santana? what if KC gave up on the struggling grienke?

    hughes is young, homegrown, and cheap, you do not give up on him for 3 more years…………..

  71. S.o.S. May 19th, 2009 at 1:05 pm

    With all these walks the pitching staff has been giving up. Why isnt Eilands job on the line? When hitters slump the hitting coach gets the axe. Why not the pitching coach?

  72. gayle May 19th, 2009 at 1:07 pm

    SJ you make a very very good ever since Charlie Steiner left and Sterling has had to call the entire game he has gotten progressively worse. Remember Steiner called some innings and before that Kay was the one who called some innings. It allowed Sterling’s weakness not to get over-exposed.

    By having him call the entire game it becomes that embarassment it has become.

  73. Bill May 19th, 2009 at 1:08 pm

    Bod, LOL is right. Everytime PH pitches, someone somewhere writes that his career is on the line etc. Pitch him every 5 days (in NY or SWB) and check back in August. His single biggest problem is that he missed so much time the last 2 years. That is 1000s of pitches he didn’t get to throw. He just needs to pitch to make up for that lost time and work on his stuff. He will be a good one.

  74. pat May 19th, 2009 at 1:10 pm

    The Stadium is like moving into a new house. It looks great until you move in and see the little things that need to be tweaked to make it home.

    The Yankees and indirectly Stub Hub have made tickets more affordable. I haven’t seen a camera shot through the net since the first weekend, balls going over the fence seem to be no doubters, not as many excuse me hits going out and they changed the batting practice policy.

    That’s alot of progress in a short amount time.

    Cut them some slack to tackle some of the other issues that probably require some time and an off season empty building to address.

  75. vin May 19th, 2009 at 1:10 pm

    Sterling has been especially bad this season. I don’t mind Suzyn – she seems to care more about the team than herself… unlike John.

  76. stuart May 19th, 2009 at 1:10 pm

    i have a better idea then firing eiland how about they blow up the pen and revamp it..

    is eiland a miracle worker? can he make edwar, veras, abeledajo, and others man up and throw a strike….

    why can aceves with inferior stuff throw strikes and get guys out? veras is 28 and same with ramirez and they are who they are..imagine veras has electric stuff but cannot throw it over the plate and has had this problem his whole career, why would it change now?

  77. Trevor May 19th, 2009 at 1:10 pm

    So the Yankees play the NL west next year?

  78. Patrick from CT May 19th, 2009 at 1:11 pm

    I think Veras needs to go. He stunk in the second half last year and stinks this year too. He walks the first guys he faces just about every time.
    Tomko has not been given much of a chance yet; give him Veras’s spot.
    Edwar sticks around until Marte comes back for lefties, then send him down.

  79. stuart May 19th, 2009 at 1:11 pm

    the HR to spann last night was a fairly good pitch golfed out by a small guy.

    that should not have been a HR, no way…

  80. murphydog May 19th, 2009 at 1:14 pm

    The Yankees announcing gig has got to be one of the best in baseball and has plenty of history all its own, including Mel Allen, Red Barber, the old trio of Rizzuto, Messer and White as well as the more recent and much-missed Bobby Murcer. There’s also Jim Kaat and Kenny Singleton as well as Coney and O’Neill. (Leiter gives me a headache).

    IMO, the Yankees need an announcer, not a color guy, and as they did with the new stadium, they ought to go “retro” with their next announcer. Give me somebody who knows the game and loves the game (not Joe Buck obviously) and doesn’t have try to convince me that they invented it (a la Bob Costas). Give me somebody who can do a little teaching about the game and situations but without beating me over the head with it, and please, please, please… get me somebody who is confident enough to shut up once in a while and let me hear the crowd noise. Less is more, people!

  81. 86w183 May 19th, 2009 at 1:18 pm

    Don’t know any of the folks involved, but neither Trost nor Levine inspire warm fuzzy feelings.

    I do not have any problem with Kay… I think he’s handicapped by too many broadcast partners and too many other activities. Does he really need a daily radio show and to host “Centerstage”. Overexposed announcers tend to become hated over time. Remember Brent Musberger before CBS axed him? He demanded to do everything an eventually everyone hated seeing, hearing or even being around him.

    Now I’ve Brent him several times and he is a very nice, likeable guy. But everyone wears out their welcome over time if you never get a break from them.

    As for Sterling I have always been under the impression he has photos of someone with a goat or a young boy. I have trained young announcers for years and they all would be improvements over this self aggrandizing clown. In fact the Yanks could improve the radio broadcasts by choosing fans at random to replace Sterling and Georgie Girl.

  82. S.o.S. May 19th, 2009 at 1:18 pm

    Stuart,
    Im with you on revamping the pen. But our starters are also giving up the BB. When hitters arent hitting they blame the players and the hitting coach. You cant get rid of a whole lineup. Like wise with the pitching staff. I havnt seen this many walks for many years now. It hasnt bit us in the but quite yet. It doesnt mean it wont though. I think Veras, Ramirez, Alba and even Marte are crap shoots. First i would get rid of is Edwar. With him its either a K a walk or a bomb.
    Aceves needs a bigger role as well.

  83. frankiedue May 19th, 2009 at 1:20 pm

    Hughes to the bullpen is not about “giving up on him” as a starter. It’s about learning how to pitch against major league hitters rather than dominating AAA batters, which we have seen already. Being in the BP doesn’t mean that he has to give up using the new pitches he has learned. From recent memory, Johan Santana started his major league career in the bullpen…so did Francisco Liriano.

  84. SJ44 May 19th, 2009 at 1:21 pm

    A return by Wang would improve the bullpen immediately. His innings and quality mean less innings for the pen.

    Best way to improve a bad bullpen is to have starters that expose it less.

    If Wang returns to form, that’s another guy giving them 7 innings a start. That, and the return by Bruney and Marte, would help a lot.

  85. T-Dot May 19th, 2009 at 1:21 pm

    Get rid of every relievers who walks guys

  86. 86w183 May 19th, 2009 at 1:23 pm

    Ever notice how much better the bullpen performs when the Yanks get a quality start? This pen started out well, got overused and worn out and suddenly was useless. Now that the Yanks are putting together better starts, they are getting better relief work too.

    The roster move is a no-brainer, Edwar has to be the one to go. He was successful as a novelty act, but that’s pretty much run its course. I also thik they should release Berroa and call up John Rodriguez.

  87. stuart May 19th, 2009 at 1:24 pm

    s.o.s. true to a point. our starters(joba, aj, and cc) are big swing and miss guys who walk batters but there #’s are up on walks over what they should be.

    if you look at the #’s for our pitching staff the issues are BB and HR’s allowed. HR’s may be related to the stadium but not walks. there BA against is fine, k’s are good, it is the walks that are killing them….

  88. Doreen May 19th, 2009 at 1:25 pm

    Michael Kay impressed me a great deal when he sat in with – was it Morgan & Miller? – during the All-Star Game at Yankee Stadium last year. Was it the All-Star Game or the last game at the stadium? I don’t remember – anyway —— Michael Kay sat in with the ESPN guys and deftly handled the conversation in the booth as well as smoothly incorporating the play-by-play. It was a great performance by him – and he showed those other two up by just doing the job the way it’s supposed to be done. So Kay has it in him.

    I do wonder if he gets bored sometimes.

    And I do agree, perhaps he’s overextended now with is radio show and also it’s like alter-egos – one version of Michael Kay on YES and at least a slightly different one on the radio. I think fans find that a little difficult to reconcile at times.

    And frankly, some days I’m okay with him and others I can’t stand to hear his voice. I haven’t really narrowed it down to who he’s paired with. Maybe I’ll start paying attention to that…

  89. stuart May 19th, 2009 at 1:25 pm

    people hit 220 against veras but he either can’t or refuses to throw strikes. figure that out.it is true edwar either strikes you out, walks you or gives up a HR .

  90. SJ44 May 19th, 2009 at 1:26 pm

    Hughes is not going to learn how to pitch to major league hitters in the bullpen. Too much is on the line for the Yankees to put him in the pen.

    What if he fails? That not only hurts the team, it further weakens his confidence.

    There is no such thing as, “he has nothing left to prove” in AAA. That’s ridiculous. He has to prove he can throw strikes with all of his pitches on a consistent basis.

    He can’t do that in NY. Not unless the Yankees just want to junk the season and have him make 25 starts and not compete. I don’t think the veterans in the clubhouse are looking for that.

    He can pitch every fifth day in AAA. Somedays, he can just work on his cutter. Other days, fastball command.

    He can’t do that at the major league level.

    He also has a pitching coach at AAA in Scott Aldred who can put in the time with him he needs. Eiland can’t do that because he has an entire staff to worry about.

    Phil Hughes needs a less stressful environment to work on his craft. That sure as heck isn’t in the bullpen for the Yankees.

  91. m May 19th, 2009 at 1:26 pm

    Sam,

    Thanks a bunch for the flurry of posts. I’ve been MIA, but I wanted to jump on your last thought there.

    I’m one for the old Yankee way, address everything behind closed doors and what not. But in this case, I don’t think Felix Lopez said anything out of line. Hal’s already proven he can be honestly critical of some things Yankees by talking about the pricing changes.

    Furthermore, in light of Lonn Trosts arrogant, cavalier, aristocratic attitude about the Legends seats, this is almost a PR move, whether it was intentional or not.

    They’re tacitly acknowledging the many complaints they’ve heard and received. Unfortunately, many writers and fans don’t understand that you don’t just make changes with a snap of the fingers. Corporate decisions take time to think work through and implement.

    We can only hope that the demotion of Levine and Trost is working its way through the great machination of the Yankees conglomerate. Maybe, they’re making room for Lopez, a true man of the people. (seriously, this is the first quote I’ve ever heard attributed to him).

  92. gayle May 19th, 2009 at 1:26 pm

    Francesa is like a dog with a bone sometimes just like he was last year with Arroyo and the Yankees. Nick JOhnson to the Mets is this year’s version.

  93. ari May 19th, 2009 at 1:27 pm

    Great game last night with the mets ;waking up to the highlights was awesome

  94. Tom in N.J. May 19th, 2009 at 1:28 pm

    “IMO, the Yankees need an announcer, not a color guy, and as they did with the new stadium, they ought to go “retro” with their next announcer. Give me somebody who knows the game and loves the game”

    Ah, what could have been:

    http://keitholbermann.mlblogs......ankee.html

  95. 86w183 May 19th, 2009 at 1:29 pm

    In the last eight games the bullpen has pitched 22 innings and allowed just five earned runs. That’s 2.05 folks.

  96. Bill May 19th, 2009 at 1:29 pm

    frankie; Your point about PH learning to get ML hitters out is a good one and maybe the only reason the NYY would consider PH to the pen. And it is true Santana, Cone and many others broke in that way. But I don’t see how he’d get much work. Plus I don’t think he’d get to use all of his pitches. When Joba was in the pen he only used 2 of his 4 pitches. I’m sure the NYY will make the decision, but I wonder if PH had a choice, what would he do?

  97. bodhisattva - OPPC member May 19th, 2009 at 1:29 pm

    Bill
    May 19th, 2009 at 1:08 pm
    Bod, LOL is right. Everytime PH pitches, someone somewhere writes that his career is on the line etc. Pitch him every 5 days (in NY or SWB) and check back in August. His single biggest problem is that he missed so much time the last 2 years. That is 1000s of pitches he didn’t get to throw. He just needs to pitch to make up for that lost time and work on his stuff. He will be a good one.
    =============

    Those people are not only stupid, they are thinking out of context. How in hell could his career be “on the line” when he’s not even in the starting rotation? He’s the sixth guy – and we aren’t going to carry six starters.

  98. SJ44 May 19th, 2009 at 1:30 pm

    Nobody can predict bullpens.

    Two years ago, the Indians had a great bullpen. They had Raffy Perez, a nasty lefty, Rafael Betancourt, a dominant setup man, and Joe Borowski, who has over 40 saves.

    They had two kids, Jensen Lewis and Adam Miller who were the envy of a lot of teams in baseball, ready to be added to the mix.

    Now? Perez is in the minors, Betancourt is getting belted around and is on the trade market, Lewis is getting lit up and Davis is hurt again. Borowski is out of baseball.

    That’s a bullpen that was one game away from the World Series and is now kaput.

    There is no science to building a bullpen. Its more luck than anything else in baseball.

  99. Aunt Becca-Optimist Prime May 19th, 2009 at 1:30 pm

    86w: Thanks for giving me an idea for a post, yay!

  100. tampayank May 19th, 2009 at 1:30 pm

    I Think the stadium rants have cooled down some and it seems like the Yanks pitchers are starting to be more comfortable in the new park. Oh and AROD is back on page 6 ha, makes you wonder why they never document Jeter or anyone else’s post game activities.

  101. S.A.--Let's get ready to rumble! May 19th, 2009 at 1:31 pm

    What is this? Drama between Manuel and Church?
    I’m just surprised Francesa did not proclaim to break up the core yet.

  102. Patrick from CT May 19th, 2009 at 1:31 pm

    How about if Wang is ready and they slot him on Friday?
    AJ and Andy could probably use and extra day after their last games.
    I guess a lot will depend on how Phil pitches Wednesday.
    I would think they would add Wang before going back on the road.

  103. rconn23 May 19th, 2009 at 1:31 pm

    SJ44,

    I still think, even with the return of Bruney and Marte they are going to have to add another quality bullpen arm through trade or find one internally.

    Do you?

  104. Bryan May 19th, 2009 at 1:32 pm

    Does anyone have reason for why I saw Michael Kay yesterday at Boston College’s graduation?

  105. 86w183 May 19th, 2009 at 1:33 pm

    Going to my first game in the new place Thursday night!! Gonna buy 200-level seats on StubHub most likely. Anyone wanna meet for a beer or eight?

  106. S.o.S. May 19th, 2009 at 1:34 pm

    Im not sure if this has been touched on. But if Wangs velocity is still at 90-91 i really hope he gets more starts in the minors. Him throwing at that velocity will get smoked in the bigs. He needs to sit at 94 for his sinker to be heavy. Im just hoping he still needs to get his legs under him and that this is not permanent. Any news if hes on his way back or not?

  107. Dr. Cox May 19th, 2009 at 1:35 pm

    Peopoe are really looking forward to the return of Marte, aren’t they?

    Was I the only one who had no faith in him?

  108. Wave Your Hat May 19th, 2009 at 1:37 pm

    “You wanted to pay him 10 million dollars and I said the Yankees offer of 5 for what he is right now in his career, a #4 starter, was fair.

    What did he get? 5.5 million and what do his numbers indicate? He’s a #4 starter?

    That’s a “win”? Ok.”

    I can’t help myself…the Great Pettitte Debate…Part 72…

    Right now Andy looks like he’s good for the full $12MM. So for Andy, looks good.

  109. dave May 19th, 2009 at 1:37 pm

    well its nice to hear some honesty from one of those DBs who have any say at all. The rest of them are all arrogant bastards as far as Im concerned who cant take criticism and have zero ability to communicate with the fans. They shouldnt pretend nothing is wrong and instead work towards a solution. When fans and media and everyone say something is wrong, Guess what? Something is wrong and no matter how many times Lonn or his pals tell us its not, it wont make it true. We, the fans are not morons. We have eyes. We can see problems. Denying them doesnt make anything better and certainly doesnt make the problems just float away. IMO, it just makes everyone more agitated that it appears the yanks either dont care or are being too lazy to fix it. Either way, the FO sucks right now and they can all go to hell for pricing most of the fans out of every decent seat in the house.

  110. Boston Dave (in Portland, OR) - OPPC member May 19th, 2009 at 1:38 pm

    “Ever notice how much better the bullpen performs when the Yanks get a quality start? This pen started out well, got overused and worn out and suddenly was useless.”

    ———

    it’s true, and quite logical, except for one thing -

    last season the same guys in the pen weren’t too far from amazing despite their starting pitching being atrocious at times.

    the bullpen pitched more innings last season than they will this season but their performances, to date, don’t cooperate with that logic.

  111. Kelvin Ace May 19th, 2009 at 1:39 pm

    The bullpen will get better, I think I’d sent down Veras before Edward though if it was my choice.

    My bullpen by choice and order:

    Mo
    Bruney
    Aceves
    Coke
    Albaladejo

    That should be our top 5, Aceves is an important factor.

    Ramirez & Veras need some work to regain form. Probably using them as 1 or 2 outs, type pitcher like situational pitching will be better for now. No way these two guys should be pitching a full inning at the moment.

  112. S.o.S. May 19th, 2009 at 1:39 pm

    Was I the only one who had no faith in him?

    —————–

    No Dr.. That makes 2 of us. Its funny how no one asked when is Marte coming back when he went down. Of course we knew what Bruney was doing from the first day on the dl. But on the other hand Marte cant be worst than Edwar or Jose. Can he?

  113. Hahaha May 19th, 2009 at 1:40 pm

    Joe Posnanski proving to the world that Steve Phillips really is full of hyperbole and nonsense with everything that comes out of his mouth.

    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.c.....ran/1.html

  114. vin May 19th, 2009 at 1:41 pm

    “Peopoe are really looking forward to the return of Marte, aren’t they?

    Was I the only one who had no faith in him?”

    I think Marte will be effective once he’s healthy and now that Girardi knows how to use him (loogy). Hopefully.

    Thanks for the link, Tom. One of the biggest perks to living in SoCal and here in Vegas, is getting to listen to Vin Scully. I’m a huge fan of his.

  115. Hahaha May 19th, 2009 at 1:42 pm

    Sorry, this is beginning of the article.

    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.c.....index.html

  116. Wave Your Hat May 19th, 2009 at 1:42 pm

    Regarding Wang, let’s not count our chickens before they hatch.

  117. Boston Dave (in Portland, OR) - OPPC member May 19th, 2009 at 1:42 pm

    “Peopoe are really looking forward to the return of Marte, aren’t they?

    Was I the only one who had no faith in him?”

    ——-

    these days, having faith in a bullpen arm is like following the rainbow looking for that pot of gold. Half of the people here didn’t have faith in Mariano 2 weeks ago for heck sake.

    Marte has pitched tired or injured for most of his stay with the Yankees. I’m willing to cut him some slack for that. Let him get healthy, don’t run him out there for 46 pitches anymore, and see what he can do.

    Still, all the Yankees need right now is something better than they have.

    When your bullpen has been this bad, there is no panacea. Even if they can just make small, baby-step improvements, I’ll take it.

  118. SJ44 May 19th, 2009 at 1:43 pm

    He doesn’t look good for the 12 million at all.

    At this rate, you have to hope he holds up all year, given the amount of work he has to do get through his starts.

    I hope he earns his incentives. It would mean he outpitched his projections.

    However, right now. he is pitching as he is slotted….a #4 starter and nothing more.

    Rconn,

    I don’t know where you can find quality bullpen arms at this point.

    That’s always a tough market at the trade deadline because the few teams that put guys like that on the market, want a lot in return.

    I think they are going to have to solve those issues from within.

    They have to hope Bruney can handle the 8th inning, Marte comes back and pitches well enough to give them another LH option besides Coke, and either Melancon, Robertson or someone else emerges the second half of the year and gives them some quality.

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  120. S.A.--Let's get ready to rumble! May 19th, 2009 at 1:44 pm

    :lol:

  121. vin May 19th, 2009 at 1:44 pm

    “The bullpen will get better, I think I’d sent down Veras before Edward though if it was my choice.”

    My head hurts…

    OK, here goes (for the last time), Veras cannot be sent down to AAA because he is out of options – unless if the Yanks waive him and no other team claims him.

  122. Patrick from CT May 19th, 2009 at 1:44 pm

    Wave Your Hat
    Right now Andy looks like he’s good for the full $12MM. So for Andy, looks good.

    You got that right!

    When is Wang a FA?
    If he doesn’t return to form in the second half, it could be Andy coming back next year in place of Wang…

  123. bodhisattva - OPPC member May 19th, 2009 at 1:48 pm

    frankiedue
    May 19th, 2009 at 1:20 pm
    Hughes to the bullpen is not about “giving up on him” as a starter. It’s about learning how to pitch against major league hitters rather than dominating AAA batters, which we have seen already. Being in the BP doesn’t mean that he has to give up using the new pitches he has learned. From recent memory, Johan Santana started his major league career in the bullpen…so did Francisco Liriano.
    ===============

    Right, but he needs to get some mastery over the new pitches he’s been asked to work on in order to help him pitch against major leaguers.

    Being in AAA isn’t redundant for him, because the results aren’t what’s being focused on. He’s been down there zeroing in on executing his pitches and their location. It’s completely a different emphasis. If he gets smacked down there by lefties because his cutter doesn’t get in on him, the world isn’t going to quake and come to an end. Their are results, but no real consequences.

    And there’s no way to build up his arm coming out of the bullpen for the Yankees in the spring. Phil Hughes is a work in progress, like most young pitchers. The fact that he won a playoff game in relief and nearly pitched a no-hitter shouldn’t be held against him; it should make people happy that the Yankees are apparently doing the right thing, because his is a career worth preparing – and waiting – for.

  124. Mike May 19th, 2009 at 1:48 pm

    To Stop:
    Who are you to tell someone that they cannot express a decenting opinion about yankees management. I pay a ton of money to go to the yankees games and I think that they can be doing a lot better for what I’m paying.

  125. bodhisattva - OPPC member May 19th, 2009 at 1:48 pm

    if his cutter doesn’t get in on them

  126. Yankeejewboy May 19th, 2009 at 1:49 pm

    I want melancen back

  127. The Other Phil May 19th, 2009 at 1:50 pm

    I wonder if WE can send Veras down?

    ;)
    Vin, that was just for you…

  128. Joe May 19th, 2009 at 1:51 pm

    lol wow, Manual didn’t even look at Church

  129. 7 UP May 19th, 2009 at 1:52 pm

    Edwar has given up 18 hits, 15 walks, and 6 HRs in 17 innings this year

  130. Zak May 19th, 2009 at 1:52 pm

    Thanks for whoever posted that article about Steve Phillips/Carlos Beltran. When I was watching that game I really could not believe Phillips was hating on someone who essentially has been great for the Mets, and I hate the Mets.

  131. Yankeejewboy May 19th, 2009 at 1:52 pm

    How about making brackmen or betansis a reliever like joba 2 yeers ago

  132. Wave Your Hat May 19th, 2009 at 1:53 pm

    “He doesn’t look good for the 12 million at all.”

    Don’t see that. He’s pitched 51.2 innings so far. No sign of ill health. No sign of pitchers waiting in the wings to take his starting slot. I don’t see in the future like you do but there’s no evidence for your assertion.

    “However, right now. he is pitching as he is slotted….a #4 starter and nothing more.”

    He’s been the third best pitcher on the team so far. The fourth best pitcher so far is making really big bucks.

    “I hope he earns his incentives. It would mean he outpitched his projections.”

    Andy’s incentives are based on innings pitched and days on the active roster. He always “projected” to make those incentives.

    Let’s review-

    Andy originally wanted to make $15MM. The Yanks wanted to pay him no more than $10MM. I said sign him between $10MM and $12MM. You said $6MM or $7MM. Where we are in the season, lokks like he’ll earn most if not all of the $12MM. All of us Yankee fans hope he does. So as I said, so far, looks like a win for Andy.

  133. vin May 19th, 2009 at 1:53 pm

    “I wonder if WE can send Veras down?

    Vin, that was just for you…

    Different story, entirely. LOL

  134. Stultus Magnus (Storm the Moat) May 19th, 2009 at 1:54 pm

    Sterling is not going anywhere, ever. I honestly think that the Yanks will give him a new contract once the current one expires. Admittedly, this is based on nothing, nothing other than the fact they’ve kept him this long, year after year of horrible calls and subpar play-by-play. One could only HOPE SJ’s best-case scenario works out with somebody taking over for 3 innings, an understudy. But it’s not happening anytime soon, I seriously doubt it.

  135. Mike May 19th, 2009 at 1:54 pm

    Doreen,
    I dont know what it is about michael kay that aggrivates me its just I feel like hes bored when he annoces the games, I wish it was someone who was pumped to be in that position and who had interesting things to comment on about whats happening in the game and not the kids eating ice cream behind home plate.

    Like you said, sterling’s lack of telling the score is really what drives me nuts and the girl who is with him just hurts my ears.

  136. Lost in Tex-is May 19th, 2009 at 1:54 pm

    Wow. I say, “WOW!”. This looks like a totally different team! They are exciting again. Sure, the BP makes you hold your breath.. but seeing what I am seeing now, and I might add that they have not even reached their true potential.. this team has all the tools to win the WS offensively.. now we just need to get the BP whipped into shape.

    but win or lose, the energy that I am seeing with this team is what has been missing for a very long long time. glad to see it back.. let’s hope they ride this until they put a ring on there fingers.

  137. NITRO May 19th, 2009 at 1:54 pm

    Girardi said Marte is a “ways away”.

    Don’t think we should count on him anytime soon.

  138. Kernal May 19th, 2009 at 1:56 pm

    They might want to keep Edwar up until the Phillies series is over. He can be effective getting out the tough Philly lefty hitters.

  139. Boston Dave (in Portland, OR) - OPPC member May 19th, 2009 at 1:56 pm

    “Girardi said Marte is a “ways away”.”

    ———

    When Girardi says a guy is day-to-day, he’s out for months.

    Maybe “ways away” means he’ll be back in a couple days. :)

  140. m May 19th, 2009 at 1:59 pm

    Help me out. Sterling does the play by play and Suzyn’s the color “guy”?

    If they don’t want to get rid of Sterling, just switch their roles. Then Suzyn can throw him a bone once in a while and give him the signal on the no-doubters so he can call the homeruns.

    What’s the cause of his problems? Age? Poor sight? Confusion?

  141. Wave Your Hat May 19th, 2009 at 1:59 pm

    SJ44-

    By the way, I root for Nick Swisher because he’s a Yankee, but I’m not particularly a Nick Swisher fan. I

  142. Boston Dave (in Portland, OR) - OPPC member May 19th, 2009 at 1:59 pm

    “How about making brackmen or betansis a reliever like joba 2 yeers ago”

    ——–

    not those 2.

    IMO, if they even chose to go that route, it would be someone like McAllister but I don’t think they will.

  143. Yankeejewboy May 19th, 2009 at 1:59 pm

    The stupid met fans are starting with their stupid trade praposals again like murphy and duaner sanchez 4 brian Roberts and nick markakis or tatis 4 huff LOL how about tatis 4 Howard or fielder

  144. Steve B May 19th, 2009 at 2:00 pm

    “However, right now. he is pitching as he is slotted….a #4 starter and nothing more.”

    That’s kind of what he’s been since returning to New York. Eats innings, but a 4+ ERA and high WHIP. In fact, he was that in his last year in Houston too. I think he’s right where he’s supposed to be and where the Yankees thought he’d be based on the past four seasons. Might not scratch out the entire $12M, but he’s on a pace to get most of it.

  145. Boston Dave (in Portland, OR) - OPPC member May 19th, 2009 at 2:01 pm

    Casey Fossum is tearing up the minors for the Yanks so far too :) – almost a K per inning and a 1.72 ERA.

  146. ANSKY May 19th, 2009 at 2:01 pm

    Re: changes to the stadium … the seats right along the top of the fences in the OF kind of surprised me, especially after the Jeffrey Maier railing they had in the old place. I’d have expected at least a little mini fence at that level, like at Wrigley. At best, a walkway or a gap between the seats & the fence.

    All things point to the restaurant being wedged in after the design was nearly finalized. Monument Park suffered and what to do with the space were the now-obstructed view seats are wasn’t thought out.

    I could be wrong but it looks like the kind of thing a client would come up with two years into the design process, introduce it just before the drawings go out to bid, and expect the architect to bang it out with consideration to the last detail.

    For those obstructed view seats, I’d just paint the first section on either side of the restaurant black and not use them, like the black CF seats in the old place, unless it’s the world series and they’re practically given away on the day of the game. Even $5 is a ripoff for those. I’d say make it 2 tix for $5. You could probably fill both sections for the cost of a single legends seat.

    The ball carrying out so well? Well, if the balls aren’t juiced (let’s assume the players aren’t – anymore) I say just go with it. It works equally for both teams. All the HR’s may put more arses in the seats (post-strike MLB marketing strategy) but still might not fill all the empty legends seats.

    Apparent gratuitous comping of legends seats to glamorous rich & famous types (No, I don’t believe Kate Hudson or even Donald Trump actually paid $2600+ or even $1200+ to see a regular season Yanks game) in order to put their faces on TV and therefore entice us common people to yield some of our untold millions in wealth for the ‘opportunity’ to buy a legends seat near said rich & famous types just won’t work. That may not be what actually happened the other night, but it sure looked like it.

    Sushi? $11 burgers? $9 tacos of ANY sort? C’mon. I would rather (and can) cook a better burger or taco myself, I can make my own sushi (I know I have better wasAAAAAAbi at home) and I can watch the game on YES!

  147. Joey's Poodle May 19th, 2009 at 2:01 pm

    Thanks for the correction, SJ, somewhere I got the idea that Trost reported to Levine.

  148. SJ44 May 19th, 2009 at 2:01 pm

    Don’t have a basis for my assertion?

    Have you watched him pitch? He has been getting hit hard.

    Fortunately for him, balls have been hit at people.

    Its not like his starts are smooth. He is grinding out there because there are a ton of baserunners on base in every one of his starts.

    His incentives aren’t just based on innings pitched and time on the roster. That’s two of them, not all of them.

    I don’t see the future but, neither do you.

    You continue to project Swisher as a “starting player”.

    How can you do that if you “don’t see the future” because presently, that’s not an accurate projection.

    Its very doubtful Andy will hit all of his incentives in the deal. If he does, great for him.

    To say he will? That’s wishful thinking at this point.

  149. Boston Dave (in Portland, OR) - OPPC member May 19th, 2009 at 2:02 pm

    “The stupid met fans are starting with their stupid trade praposals again”

    ——–

    stupid, yes.

    but this blog shouldn’t throw stones at their glass house, or something.

  150. suzanne waldman May 19th, 2009 at 2:02 pm

    is it me, or did Berman STINK on broadcast last night…too much his schtick..

  151. S.o.S. May 19th, 2009 at 2:03 pm

    Isnt Bettances a walk machine as well? Do we really need another?

  152. m May 19th, 2009 at 2:04 pm

    It’s going to be a sad day for one of the relievers.

    I kind of like having Tomko because he’s another veteran in there. Too many tykes getting rattled on the mound. I think Tomko has a chance to be a much better reliever than he was as a starter. He seems to have taken to the role. And he can’t be much worse than…

    Veras (can’t find the plate) and…

    Edwar (did he really give up another homerun). New nickname, “All or Nothing” Eddie.

    If Tomko stays, I’d like to see Aceves go down to Scranton and start again. We need reliable starters with Ian Kennedy out for the forseeable future.

    They need to end the love affair with Veras & Edwar. They’re going to have to dump another guy when Marte comes back anyway.

  153. Uncle Ellsworth (relax Chief) May 19th, 2009 at 2:05 pm

    Has anyone had any problems bringing sandwiches into the stadium?

  154. SJ44 May 19th, 2009 at 2:07 pm

    You are changing the argument. I’m not rooting against Nick Swisher. Never have.

    I’m saying he’s not an everyday player based on his performance over the last year + of his career.

    You assert otherwise. When myself and others provide data refuting your argument, it reverts back to a “rooting” argument. That was never the discussion.

    I hope the guy does well. I like him and I think he’s great for the team.

    That said, his performance to date shows nothing close to being an everyday corner OF on a contending team.

    If he continues what has been a year + long slide in his game, the Yankees are going to have to address that position at some point in the year.

    There is a reason why Nady was named the starting RF.

    At this point in their respective careers, prior to Nady’s injury, he was the better player.

    The dilemma is if Nady can’t play the OF when he returns. If he can’t, I don’t see how Swisher keeps that job the rest of the year unless he really picks up his game.

  155. YEAH ITS ME ! May 19th, 2009 at 2:08 pm

    All is not dandy with Andy. He sort of looks like the guy we saw last aug-sept.

    He’s an old pro so he knows what to do out there but he’s barely getting through these starts.

    Morneau had 4 hits against him. First time a leftie has ever done that. Morneau’s awesome but it’s telling.

    All the more reason why the Yanks should not be toying with Phil.

  156. Steve B May 19th, 2009 at 2:09 pm

    “His incentives aren’t just based on innings pitched and time on the roster. That’s two of them, not all of them.”

    According to Cots, he has a $5.5M base, $4.5M in innings pitched incentives and $2M in roster incentives. That equals $12M. What else is there?

  157. frankiedue May 19th, 2009 at 2:09 pm

    Does anyone have any theories as to why Angel Berroa is on the team? Since May 4, he has played the field once in a blowout game, and hasn’t had a single at bat.

    Couldn’t we use a legitimate right-handed bat for the bench or to spell Nick Swisher? Someone like Shelley Duncan who has 11 HR and 32RBI already in AAA? As an added bonus, that would allow the Yankees to promote ‘mexican pujols’, Jorge Vazquez to AAA.

  158. Boston Dave (in Portland, OR) - OPPC member May 19th, 2009 at 2:09 pm

    “I want melancen back”

    ——-

    Melancon has an ERA over 9 since going back to AAA.

    Forget the hype for a while and let him figure things out. If the Yankees pen wasn’t so injured and horrendous, he’d have stayed down until later in the season.

    At least as far as fans go, Melancon got way too much hype, IMO, and people were expecting a bullpen savior.

  159. S.o.S. May 19th, 2009 at 2:09 pm

    The stupid met fans are starting with their stupid trade praposals again like murphy and duaner sanchez 4 brian Roberts and nick markakis or tatis 4 huff LOL how about tatis 4 Howard or fielder

    —————

    If I were the Yankees i would beat them to the punch and up the anti with Veras and Ramirez for Markakis. Get r did.

  160. Yankeejewboy May 19th, 2009 at 2:09 pm

    Joba was awalk guy as a starter 2 he has the stuff give him a shot

  161. Brandon Pie "Because it's the thing to do in this stadium" May 19th, 2009 at 2:10 pm

    Since the Mets don’t like Ryan Church you guys think we can do a straight up swap X for Church ? I mean it’s clear Jerry doesn’t like him.

  162. ANSKY May 19th, 2009 at 2:12 pm

    Doesn’t Edwar get hammered by guys who have seen enough of him to sit on his change? I’d just use him situationally, like Torre began to use Jeff Nelson at one point: Bring him in for one out, maybe two, then get him of there. Each game have him do something a little different with his location, selection of his set-up pitch, how often he uses the change, when he uses it … basically his general approach to the batter. Fewer guys will see him, and they’ll see him less, he’ll be less predictable (though still somewhat – he’s still all about the change up) so maybe the change up will be more effective. Just when the team needs it.

  163. trisha - OPPC member and proud of it May 19th, 2009 at 2:12 pm

    I’m willing to let the Yankees take care of stadium issues. There are so many more important things in life to stress out about. One of them is the number of negative nellies that show up to post here!

    I was out last night so didn’t get to participate in the game thread. If you think it’s bad having to be there to endure the stupidity of the “this game is over!” crew, try taking a read of that entire thread.

    I can’t imagine how the posters responsible for the constant crybaby posts aren’t embarrassed. Some people were trashing the “positive club” and wondering what good it would do. The fact that at least two posters called themselves on their negativity (Betsy, who is always a good sport about it but I hope that some day she gets the confidence to jump over to the other side entirely; and spicedham) is actually a good sign.

    The one thing I am sure about is that those posters will always be in their prime when the Yankees have the aucadity to lose a game.

    It’s really a shame IMO.

  164. Brandon Pie "Because it's the thing to do in this stadium" May 19th, 2009 at 2:12 pm

    how about Shelley + X for Ryan Church ?

  165. Yankeejewboy May 19th, 2009 at 2:12 pm

    I bring a sandwich every time

  166. murphydog May 19th, 2009 at 2:12 pm

    “Casey Fossum is tearing up the minors for the Yanks so far too – almost a K per inning and a 1.72 ERA.”

    If I recall correctly, Fossum always had more than a few Ks at the MLB level. Not league or division leading Ks but still nothing to sneeze at. He couldn’t break a pane of glass with his fastball, but he gets some swings and misses. I heard somewhere – maybe during a recent YES broadcast – that he let loose a 59 mph curveball the other night. At AAA, those kids are going to have lots of trouble with a pitcher like that. Not sure he’s come back MLB material though.

  167. Wave Your Hat May 19th, 2009 at 2:13 pm

    SJ44-

    I believe in the last thread you accused me of not seeing Swisher’s down side and thinking Swisher is an everyday player because I’m a Swisher fan (like I am a Pettitte fan). So I’m not changing the argument at all.

    I project Swisher as an everyday player simply because he is and will continue to be in 2009. There’s no alternative that I see right now.

    I think there is a basis in Swisher’s career to say he is an everyday player, which there is. If you want to see the glass as half empty, that’s OK. I agree that if you look at 2008 alone, and his May 2009 performance, there’s some support for the half-empty viewpoint.

    But Swisher is, I think, basically a .250 hitter, with more than average pop and an ability to get on basis. He is a mediocre, but not bad, corner outfielder defensively. If he can do that, and play to his career averages, that will be fine with me and will be fine with the Yanks.

    That’s the half-full hypothesis, which I choose to go with. But not because I’m a Swisher fan.

  168. S.o.S. May 19th, 2009 at 2:13 pm

    At least as far as fans go, Melancon got way too much hype, IMO, and people were expecting a bullpen savior.

    —————

    Boston Dave,
    I agree 100%. I didnt see him pitch in the minors. But what i saw in the majors tells me he needs more refinement. I think every fan from every team over hypes their own. Im hoping he can figure things out soon and help the big team.

    What would Cox be right now if he didnt get injure? He had better numbers than Street in Texas and now i hear hes struggling. Is there anyone else in the minors that we can look forward to helping our in the pen sometime in the future?

  169. Boston Dave (in Portland, OR) - OPPC member May 19th, 2009 at 2:14 pm

    murphydog,

    hey! careful… you’re talking about a guy who was traded for Curt Schilling :)

  170. Steve B May 19th, 2009 at 2:14 pm

    “Since the Mets don’t like Ryan Church you guys think we can do a straight up swap X for Church ? I mean it’s clear Jerry doesn’t like him.”

    Having a hard time blaming the Mets for not liking Church. I’m not a huge Nady fan, but I’d hope for a little better than Church in trade.

  171. Yankeejewboy May 19th, 2009 at 2:14 pm

    The women staff member in the blechers should be fired

  172. Boston Dave (in Portland, OR) - OPPC member May 19th, 2009 at 2:15 pm

    “Is there anyone else in the minors that we can look forward to helping our in the pen sometime in the future?”

    ——–

    that’s a question better asked to SJ44 or GB7.

    at least during spring training, I would have said the Yankees had more potential bullpen depth in the minors that they’d know what to do with. now? well, you know…

  173. Wave Your Hat May 19th, 2009 at 2:16 pm

    “His incentives aren’t just based on innings pitched and time on the roster. That’s two of them, not all of them.”

    That’s all that were reported (that I am aware of) and all that Cot’s lists.

    Are there “double secret” incentives that you know of?

  174. trisha - OPPC member and proud of it May 19th, 2009 at 2:16 pm

    frankiedue it’s hard to know exactly what goes into the decision-making by the Yankee organization but I would suggest to you that a possibility is that Berroa is a veteran of the majors and when you are in a situation where you are playing catch up, perhaps you want to put someone in there in a difficult situation who has been there. Maybe the situation would be different if the Yankees had a 5-game lead. I personally have no difficulty with Berroa being on the time. He certainly has speed on the bases so can be used to pinch run. And he does know how to hit the ball. Isn’t that what you want on the bench? He can play infield positions where Shelly is pretty much 1B or the outfield – both of which seem to be adequately covered.

    JMO

  175. m May 19th, 2009 at 2:16 pm

    I feel so bad for Church. The Mets mismanaged his concussion(s) so badly last year. And then to miss the third base bag last night. Poor thing.

    But Manuel’s a terrible manager IMO. Was listening to Mike’s rant to the poor Mets correspondent who was on the phone. Yelling about how Jerry didn’t like the way so and so was swinging the bat. How about saying something else? He screwed up by putting a newb in a critical situation and he had to throw the person who had a clutch hit the day before under the bus. (was it Church?) Big soap opera and a lot of it’s to do with Manuel. He’s like the parent that tries to be more of a friend than a parent. That’s usually not very effective.

  176. Yankeejewboy May 19th, 2009 at 2:19 pm

    What ever happened with john ortiz

  177. Uncle Ellsworth (relax Chief) May 19th, 2009 at 2:20 pm

    Brandon Pie “Because it’s the thing to do in this stadium”
    May 19th, 2009 at 2:12 pm
    how about Shelley + X for Ryan Church ?

    Brandon are you not feeling well today?

  178. murphydog May 19th, 2009 at 2:20 pm

    Out of (morbid) curiosity I just checked the SWB Yankee site and it looks like Igawa is having a very nice May after a very bad April. I know, why do I bother… (It’s a slow day here – no alleged perpetrators to tend to).

  179. trisha - OPPC member and proud of it May 19th, 2009 at 2:21 pm

    SJ, are you going to be here tonight? You realize that your shadow posts as you during every game. I know that a poster who has had an imposter stalker wrote to Pete and that person was immediately knocked off the forum. If we know you are not going to be around during a game and that loser shows up to post as you (always trashing the Yankees of course), I say we let Sam know and ask him to do the same thing. Then if the AH keeps showing up Sam can keep knocking him off. Actually maybe the best way for Sam to do it is to check the IP. Sam will have yours. If it’s not the same one the loser will be forced to take a hike. We can ask Pete to do the same thing once he’s back. It is really annoying watching unwitting posters respond to your stalker.

  180. Mike May 19th, 2009 at 2:21 pm

    Two guys I would love the yankees to get would be hudson street from the rockies and or matt lindstrom from the marlins, adding an arm like these to the bull pen would make it stronger and more durable. Plus the marlins/rockies might be willing to trade, I just dont know what the yanks could give them.

  181. trisha - OPPC member and proud of it May 19th, 2009 at 2:22 pm

    “Out of (morbid) curiosity I just checked the SWB Yankee site and it looks like Igawa is having a very nice May after a very bad April. I know, why do I bother… (It’s a slow day here – no alleged perpetrators to tend to).”

    As someone who will continue to support Igawa and root for him to succeed, I personally thank you for that information.

  182. Chris from NJ May 19th, 2009 at 2:22 pm

    I love Kay, he has a streak of passive aggressiveness and sarcasm that I find hillarious in the booth and on the radio. The banter between him and O’Neil is hillarious, especially when Lieter or Cone is in the booth too.

    Sterling and Waldman are TERRIBLE. Suzyn has absolutely nothing of value to add to the broadcast, and Sterling is like an elderly uncle just telling unrelated stories for 3 hours. I enjoyed Sterling when he was with Kay, but on his own basically (Suzyn is useless in every way)makes the radio broadcast unlistenable.

  183. Bronx Jeers May 19th, 2009 at 2:23 pm

    Trisha,

    Much love but you can’t stress over last nights comments.

    It’s a new day.

    Please tell me you weren’t pouring over them to see if there were posters behaving badly.

  184. SJ44 May 19th, 2009 at 2:23 pm

    I’m talking about his performance bonuses. It remains to be seen if he will hit all of them.

    If he doesn’t, he won’t get the money.

    Its impossible to know how his elbow and shoulder will hold up over the course of the season.

    Last year at this time, there was no evidence of shoulder problems.

    By July, he could barely lift it above his shoulder.

    Like I said, I hope he hits his incentives.

    However, bringing him back for guaranteed money of 5.5 million instead of 10-12 million, was a good deal for the Yankees.

  185. Brandon Pie "Because it's the thing to do in this stadium" May 19th, 2009 at 2:23 pm

    “how about Shelley + X for Ryan Church ?

    Brandon are you not feeling well today?”

    What’s wrong w/ that deal, the Mets don’t like him. Maybe you throw in Juan Miranda w/ X and get Ryan Church. Swisher I love him but he’s a part time player. Church would add defense and trading Miranda or Shelley fills a need for the Mets b/c they need a viable 1B, this also opens up a AAA spot for Vasquez’s promotion.

  186. murphydog May 19th, 2009 at 2:25 pm

    “murphydog,

    hey! careful… you’re talking about a guy who was traded for Curt Schilling”

    I mean, really… how do more GMs not jump off of bridges. But it does speak to Fossum’s ability to get Ks for next to nothing.

  187. Steve B May 19th, 2009 at 2:27 pm

    “I’m talking about his performance bonuses. It remains to be seen if he will hit all of them.”

    Innings pitched ARE his performance bonuses. There is nothing else.

  188. Bryan May 19th, 2009 at 2:27 pm

    Chris Berman was the worst last night.. I had to mute the TV because I couldn’t stand him.

    Here is some Coke with your Captain!

    I hate ESPN… with all their analyst thinking that people tune in to here them.. no one cares about you or your act you don’t make the game!!

  189. SJ44 May 19th, 2009 at 2:28 pm

    Trisha,

    No. I’m flying to Durham for the ACC Tournament and won’t be around the rest of the week.

    School isn’t out yet. When it does, my imposter comes out to play.

    Like Dracula at night, he arrives after school is out for the day.

    Murph,

    Why do you do that to yourself? lol

    One name I’d keep an eye on during the year….George Kontos.

    He is a little bit older (college arm) and has very good stuff.

    If he can put together some results this summer, that could be a guy the Yankees think about putting in the bullpen in Late July, if necessary.

    I’ve always wondered what he would be like in the pen if he just used his fastball and slider combination.

    Not saying he would work in the ‘pen. Just saying it could be a down the line option if the other in house options aren’t sufficient.

  190. Steve B May 19th, 2009 at 2:29 pm

    Brandon:

    Regarding Chruch, I think people are puzzled with your fascination. He’s not all that good a player. 4th OF material on most teams. Why are you so anxious to trade for him?

  191. murphydog May 19th, 2009 at 2:29 pm

    “As someone who will continue to support Igawa and root for him to succeed, I personally thank you for that information.”

    You’re welcome.

    But I must remind you of the old joke: how many social workers does it take to change a light bulb? One, but the lightbulb has to really want to change.

    All the baseball love in the world can’t change Igawa. He has to really want to throw strikes low in the zone.

  192. Antones May 19th, 2009 at 2:29 pm

    If Nady can play the field when he comes back, he’ll take Swisher’s spot.

    Problem is, Nady is likely going to be mostly a DH.

  193. Brandon Pie "Because it's the thing to do in this stadium" May 19th, 2009 at 2:30 pm

    What are the Mets fans saying they would give for Nick Johnson again ? There is no way Washington sells him that cheap.

  194. trisha - OPPC member and proud of it May 19th, 2009 at 2:30 pm

    Bronx Jeers, no actually I was just feeling bad for those of you who had to endure it last night and feeling grateful that I didn’t! But it reading the thread – which I try to do if I miss games – I was able to see that a few of the negative posters caught themselves. Not a bad thing.

    And not stressing at all – just making factual observations.

    :)

    *OT – for anyone who wears contact lenses*

    If you have the disposable type and put them in wrong (I actually only have one contact) how can you tell?

    Thanks.

  195. R+ May 19th, 2009 at 2:30 pm

    Francessa will go nuts if we trade for Church lol

  196. CountryClub May 19th, 2009 at 2:30 pm

    Pettitte is the least of this team’s worries. He has always been a 2nd half pitcher (obviously not last year because he was hurt). As long as he stays healthy, he’ll win 15 – 20 games.

  197. frankiedue May 19th, 2009 at 2:31 pm

    Trisha, that’s an interesting theory about wanting a veteran with experience, but still, to me, it doesn’t outweigh the fact that he is basically useless. At least that is what Girardi thinks based on the fact that Berroa hasn’t had an AB since May 4 and has played the field once in a blowout game. Ramiro Pena can backup 3 positions. Let’s take advantage of that. That allows the Yanks to not have to carry Berroa and get more roster flexibility.

  198. Steve B May 19th, 2009 at 2:31 pm

    SJ:

    BC is in the ACC tourney? Does everyone get in or did the Eagles earn their way?

    Asked you in an earlier post, but you probably were beyond it, did your nephew ever play in the Cape Cod League?

  199. trisha - OPPC member and proud of it May 19th, 2009 at 2:32 pm

    “But I must remind you of the old joke: how many social workers does it take to change a light bulb? One, but the lightbulb has to really want to change.

    All the baseball love in the world can’t change Igawa. He has to really want to throw strikes low in the zone.”

    And I will remind you of the old saying: where there’s life there’s hope.

    :)

  200. rconn23 May 19th, 2009 at 2:32 pm

    Joe Posnanski’s column on Steve Phillips’ criticism of Carlos Beltran was spot on.

    Leave it to the best sports columnist in the country to properly take apart a nimrod like Phillips.

    Phillips was way out of line and far off base with his attack on Beltran’s perceived lack of smarts.

    Beltran is the best all-around centerfielder in baseball. Hands down. And for the last several years, he has also been the best baserunner in the game.

    With very few exceptions, most teams, including the Yankees, would love to have Beltran playing centerfield.

    It’s amazing that Phillips is paid to spew his nonsense, but after all, it is ESPN. So I guess I shouldn’t be surprised.

  201. Fran (the original) and OPPC member May 19th, 2009 at 2:32 pm

    Trisha, I didn’t see the game thread last night, but the Yankees led in the bottom of the 1st inning for the rest of the game. What were people so negative about?

  202. Wave Your Hat May 19th, 2009 at 2:32 pm

    “’m talking about his performance bonuses. It remains to be seen if he will hit all of them.
    If he doesn’t, he won’t get the money.”

    If Andy got performance bonuses in addition to IP and days on the active roster, he could make MORE than $12MM. I of course would be all for that, because I am an Andy Pettitte fan.

    But I am not aware of any. Could you be more specific?

  203. murphydog May 19th, 2009 at 2:33 pm

    “Murph,

    Why do you do that to yourself? lol”

    Like the nuns always told me: Original Sin.

  204. Uncle Ellsworth (relax Chief) May 19th, 2009 at 2:33 pm

    Brandon

    I don’t know, I guess I just don’t like Church and also don’t see why the Mets would want more than X who I think is better.. Either way x is still on the DL.
    There may be a reason Cheetos does not like Church too.

  205. Wave Your Hat May 19th, 2009 at 2:33 pm

    Country Club-

    I like your thinking! :)

  206. Brandon Pie "Because it's the thing to do in this stadium" May 19th, 2009 at 2:33 pm

    “Brandon:

    Regarding Chruch, I think people are puzzled with your fascination. He’s not all that good a player. 4th OF material on most teams. Why are you so anxious to trade for him?”

    Are you serious ? Ryan Church is so not a 4th OF, I’m not anxious on it but he’d add a consistan bat that can hit RHP and LHP and god knows he has an arm for RF and would cover ground out in RF. Swisher and him can platoon we’d have a more solid bench, why not ?

    Shelley Duncan and Juan Miranda aren’t going to be held onto forever and a guy like Miranda would make sense for the Mets since we have no need for him or Shelley.

  207. b ball 101 May 19th, 2009 at 2:33 pm

    Bryan, I agree..Chris Berman/espn is horrible…..its all about him forcing square lines into round holes…
    several times you could tell he had no idea who was in yank bullpen etc because no #s…dont they have spotters?

  208. Rich May 19th, 2009 at 2:34 pm

    Sure, Swisher may be an everyday player on some teams, but he is not an ideal everyday player on a good team. Just not consistent enough if you look past the OBP.

    The ideal situation would have been to mix him and Nady in RF and ride the hot hand and have a killer bench. Swisher could also be used to give Damon and Matsui days off and be a super-sub.

  209. westchester dave May 19th, 2009 at 2:34 pm

    Uncle Ellsworth: I didn’t have a problem bringing in a salad or bottles of water to the stadium last night. According to the website, it is permitted, except in certain suites (at last one item which it is better not to be in the high price seats). Same rules as old stadium about using see through bags.

  210. trisha - OPPC member and proud of it May 19th, 2009 at 2:35 pm

    frankie, I hear you but all it makes me think is what may be the obvious: the Yankees value Berroa more than some fans do.

    I tend to think that they are up on more than we are on a minute to minute basis and so decisions are being made that might make sense to us if we had additional information but may not in the absence of that.

  211. Bronx Jeers May 19th, 2009 at 2:35 pm

    OT – for anyone who wears contact lenses

    If you have the disposable type and put them in wrong (I actually only have one contact) how can you tell?
    ———————————————————–

    John Sterling”s been wondering the same thing?

  212. Kelvin Ace May 19th, 2009 at 2:36 pm

    vin – I’m fully aware that he is out of options, But I’d expose him to waivers or just send Tomko down.

    Albaladejo and Aceves are valuable to the team, wouldn’t send either of them to the minors.

  213. Orestas May 19th, 2009 at 2:36 pm

    Saying that Swish is not an everyday player is not a knock on him at all

    You can still be a useful part of the team without playing every game

    For some reason, people have really overrated him.

  214. Brandon Pie "Because it's the thing to do in this stadium" May 19th, 2009 at 2:36 pm

    “I don’t know, I guess I just don’t like Church and also don’t see why the Mets would want more than X who I think is better.. Either way x is still on the DL.
    There may be a reason Cheetos does not like Church too.”

    I don’t give a damn what diet coke thinks, Church is an upgrade over Nady, he fields better, throws better and runs better and is more patient. X has been wanted back by the Mets for sometime now, so if we entice them w/ Miranda or Shelley maybe a deal can be worked out.

  215. Bryan May 19th, 2009 at 2:37 pm

    Berman also had no idea Coke gave up a home run to Morneau earlier in the series

  216. m May 19th, 2009 at 2:38 pm

    Platoon Swish and Gardner.

    Swish plays on the road and Gardner plays (CF) at NYS.

  217. SJ44 May 19th, 2009 at 2:38 pm

    Steve,

    They earned their way in. They play their first game tomorrow against Florida State.

    Yes, he played for Yarmouth-Dennis in the Cape last summer.

  218. trisha - OPPC member and proud of it May 19th, 2009 at 2:38 pm

    Fran, amazing isn’t it. Take a look in last night’s game thread and search for “Miss Annie”. She posted a series of the negative comments. After having read the thread I can tell you that those were interspersed so it wasn’t just first inning jitters.

  219. Steve B May 19th, 2009 at 2:38 pm

    “Are you serious ? Ryan Church is so not a 4th OF, I’m not anxious on it but he’d add a consistan bat that can hit RHP and LHP and god knows he has an arm for RF and would cover ground out in RF. Swisher and him can platoon we’d have a more solid bench, why not ?”

    I’m dead serious. 30 year old guy. OPS is on the steady decline over the past 4 seasons and since his Washington days, he hasn’t been anything close to special in the outfield since his Washington days. Anything Church can offer that Cabrera hasn’t this year???

  220. Steve B May 19th, 2009 at 2:39 pm

    Some good Department of Redundancy Department work in my last post.

    Woo hoo!!!

  221. trisha - OPPC member and proud of it May 19th, 2009 at 2:39 pm

    Bronx Jeers -

    :lol:

    That was quick!

  222. Hit Man May 19th, 2009 at 2:39 pm

    We don’t need Veras, Albaladejo, AND Edwar on the team. They are all redundant. No reason not to get rid of one of them for Bruney.

    Tomko ain’t great, but he is a strike thrower and veteran arm who we can abuse. If Aceves is going to be a short reliever for us, Tomko can be the “long” guy, he ha started in the past.

  223. Aunt Becca-Optimist Prime May 19th, 2009 at 2:40 pm

    m: I kind of actually really like that idea.

  224. Steve B May 19th, 2009 at 2:41 pm

    “Yes, he played for Yarmouth-Dennis in the Cape last summer.”

    No substitute for some wooden bat experience in a tough league.

  225. Wave Your Hat May 19th, 2009 at 2:41 pm

    By “everyday player”, I don’t mean Nick will play 162 games or be an all-star. I simply mean a guy who can be an average ballplayer playing regularly.

    Those kind of guys are not all that common, and are valuable assets. I think Nick can do it even if he’s not hitting well right now.

    Sure, if you can conjure up a trade for a better RF from our spare parts, I won’t stop you. I just don’t think it is likely, and I also doubt if Nady will be able to play in RF much if at all when and if he comes back.

    So we don’t even have to get to the Nady vs. Swisher argument.

  226. Brandon Pie "Because it's the thing to do in this stadium" May 19th, 2009 at 2:41 pm

    “Anything Church can offer that Cabrera hasn’t this year???”

    He’s been benched by Jerry b/c he doesn’t like him. Church when he plays and gets on a role is like adding Bobby Abreu.

  227. Ron May 19th, 2009 at 2:41 pm

    where are the bar stools in the mohegan sun club? did somebody steal them?!

  228. Lance May 19th, 2009 at 2:41 pm

    Melancon needs more time in the minors, he hasn’t done well at all since going back down

    Robertson should be up though. He did nothing wrong up here. Girardi barely used him.

  229. m May 19th, 2009 at 2:42 pm

    Hit Man,

    If Aceves wasn’t such an efficient, effective starter I would be all for converting him to a reliever.

  230. Uncle Ellsworth (relax Chief) May 19th, 2009 at 2:42 pm

    Brandon “Cheetos” = Manuel
    I would like to be excused from this discussion now.

    Westchester Thanks

  231. Nick in SF May 19th, 2009 at 2:42 pm

    Brandon: what confuses me is why you think any NL team (or any team at all, really) is going to want to trade for Nady given his present circumstances. Wouldn’t he have to come back and produce at a decent level to get back on anyone’s radar? Just because you don’t see him as a future Yankee doesn’t mean that every other GM has amnesia.

  232. S.A.--Let's get ready to rumble! May 19th, 2009 at 2:42 pm

    OT – for anyone who wears contact lenses

    If you have the disposable type and put them in wrong (I actually only have one contact) how can you tell?

    Thanks.

    ===========================

    If you have it in, it should feel funky in your eye. If you take out the contact and the rim points out slightly instead of up, the lens is probably inside-out. Just flip it

  233. jennifer May 19th, 2009 at 2:42 pm

    Someone call Belview and tell them they have a patient in Queens that needs to be taken in.

  234. trisha - OPPC member and proud of it May 19th, 2009 at 2:43 pm

    I just decided that I must have the contact inside out.
    A clue might be the shooting pain that I feel in my eye?

    :D

    Be back

  235. trisha - OPPC member and proud of it May 19th, 2009 at 2:44 pm

    Thanks S.A.

  236. vin May 19th, 2009 at 2:44 pm

    “If you have the disposable type and put them in wrong (I actually only have one contact) how can you tell?”

    Do you mean that you put the contact in “inside-out”? If so, you can tell because it’ll feel like it wants oh-so badly to pop off of your eye. When you take it out, you can look at it in profile to see if it is correct.

  237. R+ May 19th, 2009 at 2:45 pm

    Why not bring up John Rodriquez to platoon with Swisher?

  238. S.A.--Let's get ready to rumble! May 19th, 2009 at 2:45 pm

    “He’s looking RIGHT AT THE BASE!!!”
    Francesa screaming just blew out one of my ear drums. :P

  239. 86w183 May 19th, 2009 at 2:45 pm

    Edwwar, Edwar, Edwar… it’s an easy choice. Albie and Aceves are much more talented and Veras is out of opptions. Why would anyone want to keep Edwar?

    Ryan Church is definitely a 4th/5th OF right now, but he’s a damned good defensive OF. Miranda for Church makes sense to me for both sides. Church would be a helluvalot more museful than Berroa and could play RF against RHP with Swisher out there against LHP.

  240. Brandon Pie "Because it's the thing to do in this stadium" May 19th, 2009 at 2:45 pm

    Wave Your Hat, Church is basically put in the PH mode for the Mets, so if we deal Nady he just takes his spot in that role, basically becomes thier RH PH for late innings. You throw in Miranda they take X and him we get Church and platoon him w/ Swisher. Swisher replaces Snr. Citizen, Church plays RF. I mean why not ?

  241. m May 19th, 2009 at 2:46 pm

    Trisha,

    Fold the lens. If it “bowls” it’s right side out. If it flexes, it’s wrong side out.

    Rebecca,

    If it were only that easy!

  242. Whatever May 19th, 2009 at 2:46 pm

    Hooray for Felix Lopez.

  243. Steve B May 19th, 2009 at 2:46 pm

    “Church when he plays and gets on a role is like adding Bobby Abreu.”

    Cut it out!

    Offensively? He’s Abreu-ultra lite…and that’s on a good day. He’s an exceedingly ordinary offensive player. Does nothing great. Does some things pretty good.

  244. Alex May 19th, 2009 at 2:48 pm

    Have a feeling that Aceves will go down because they want him to start.

    I don’t think they like the idea of turning him into a reliever

    He got into the Toronto game because he hadn’t pitched in 10 days and needed some work.

    And he only came into the Twins game in extra innings when we were pretty much out of arms and they wanted him to eat some innings, not just pitch an inning but we happened to win in the bottom frames in both games so he didnt’ have to.

  245. Wave Your Hat May 19th, 2009 at 2:48 pm

    Brandon,

    I was sitting on the sidelines for the Church debate. But if you ask me, I’m with Nick in SF-

    Wouldn’t you think an NL team would want to see if Nady can play the field before they trade for him?

  246. m May 19th, 2009 at 2:48 pm

    I can understand wanting to get Church, but nobody’s trading for Nady with his strained forearm. But, yeah, Eddie and Veras would look nice in blue and orange.

  247. murphydog May 19th, 2009 at 2:49 pm

    “Where there’s life there’s hope.”

    It’s stuff like this that made me stop going to group therapy.

    Just kidding… I stopped because they threw me out :)

  248. Doreen May 19th, 2009 at 2:49 pm

    Trisha -

    By “wrong” do you mean “inside out?” Usually they’ll be scratchy and they won’t stay in.

  249. no.27 May 19th, 2009 at 2:49 pm

    Judging Nick Swisher off of his 2008 numbers is like judging Nady off of his 2008 numbers. Both players had years that were way off of their career norms. Nick Swisher in 2008 isn’t an everyday player. Nick Swisher between 2005 and 2007, which were his first 3 full seasons in the league is an everyday player.

    Over that time he averaged 58 extra base hits a year with 26 HRs, a .258 average and a .377 OBP. He improved in each of the 3 years in BA and OBP. Saying that 2008 wasn’t a fluke based on the slump he is going through now doesn’t make sense.

    I’m not saying the guy is an all star, but he plays a solid RF, has power from both sides of the plate, works the pitcher, gets on base, and doesn’t clog the bases when he does. For me, those things add up to a starter. He’s not a 5 hitter, but he’s a good bat to have towards the bottom of the lineup.

    What is it that a player needs to do to be classified as a starter? He’s been a starter every year of his career and he’s been solid in all but one year.

  250. Fran (the original) and OPPC member May 19th, 2009 at 2:50 pm

    m,

    Or any other color. Just not pinstripes.

  251. Laura - Win together, strike out alone! May 19th, 2009 at 2:50 pm

    Francessa got that “Nick Johnson to the Mets” idea from Peter Pascarelli from today’s ESPN Baseball Podcast. He didn’t think of it himself. Pascarelli was saying that he didn’t think that DelGado was coming back this season and that it would make sense for the Nats to listen to the Mets about maybe getting Nick Johnson. Considering how often NJ is hurt, not sure how that helps the Mets.

  252. Fran (the original) and OPPC member May 19th, 2009 at 2:52 pm

    Is Delgado’s surgery the same as Alex had?

  253. Brandon Pie "Because it's the thing to do in this stadium" May 19th, 2009 at 2:52 pm

    .276 .346 .439 Church 08′

    .296 .371 .471 Abreu 08′

    What’s wrong Steve B ? At this point of thier careers they basically are the same type only Church is better defensively Bobby was better at baserunning. Your looking at Bobby more b/c of last season but look at him now w/o Alex Rodriguez protecting him.

  254. Laura - Win together, strike out alone! May 19th, 2009 at 2:52 pm

    “I’m not saying the guy is an all star, but he plays a solid RF…..”

    Sorry, I have to disagree here. I used to think that Swisher played a better RF than Nady, but I have changed my mind after watching him for most of this season. His RF is below average at best. I’d rather have Melky in RF than Swisher. I don’t like Nady there either as he is wicked slow to chase down balls.

    Where is Dave Winfield or Paul O’Neill when you need them?

  255. William Buckner May 19th, 2009 at 2:52 pm

    “One name I’d keep an eye on during the year….George Kontos.”

    Funny you should write that. We saw him pitch Friday in WB/S. I said to my brother, if I were Kontos I’d be begging for a relief role.

    I said this because he’s a little old to be a “prospect.” But he’s got pretty good velocity and off speed pitches and was aggressive in the zone.

    I feel the same way about Alan Horne if he could ever get it going again.

  256. Laura - Win together, strike out alone! May 19th, 2009 at 2:53 pm

    “Is Delgado’s surgery the same as Alex had?”

    I don’t know. I was thinking it must be more invasive if Pascarelli doubted he’d be back before the end of the season.

  257. vin May 19th, 2009 at 2:53 pm

    “I just decided that I must have the contact inside out.
    A clue might be the shooting pain that I feel in my eye?”

    Shooting pain may indicate that the contact is either dirty or has a foreign body on it (like an eyelash or something). Not only do I wear contacts, but my wife’s an optometrist – eyeballs have become a big part of my life. lol

  258. m May 19th, 2009 at 2:53 pm

    Fran,

    How about red & white? A division rival? Of course they’d make the ASG with Boston. :?

  259. 7 UP May 19th, 2009 at 2:54 pm

    Amazing how the bloom has come off the Jerry Manual rose

    The fans and media have destroyed him so far this year.

  260. CountryClub May 19th, 2009 at 2:54 pm

    Laura,

    Mike was talking about Nick Johnson yesterday when the rumor came down about Delgado needing surgery.

  261. vin May 19th, 2009 at 2:55 pm

    “.276 .346 .439 Church 08’

    .296 .371 .471 Abreu 08’

    The differentials between those numbers are what separates average players from good players. That’s a big jump for any player.

  262. Alex May 19th, 2009 at 2:55 pm

    Swisher’s defense has left A LOT to be desired.

    Nady is better than him in the field.

  263. Steve B May 19th, 2009 at 2:55 pm

    Agree Laura. Swisher’s play in RF has not been especially good.

  264. Brandon Pie "Because it's the thing to do in this stadium" May 19th, 2009 at 2:56 pm

    “Wouldn’t you think an NL team would want to see if Nady can play the field before they trade for him?”

    The way they would use him would be like they are using Church now, the PH role. And if you can throw in Miranda and or + Shelley maybe this forces a deal. The Mets need a 1B they are desperate and Church is going to be dealt and they’d want him out of the NL so he doesn’t hurt them. Who knows…

  265. Francis May 19th, 2009 at 2:56 pm

    Why would the Nationals give away Nick Johnson to a division rival?

  266. Nick in SF May 19th, 2009 at 2:56 pm

    Brandon is not acknowledging Xavier Nady corrections today :)

  267. Uncle Ellsworth (relax Chief) May 19th, 2009 at 2:56 pm

    Nick in San Francisco
    I’m Just 2 songs into the set and am really liking this.
    Thanks Again

  268. 86w183 May 19th, 2009 at 2:57 pm

    No. 27 —- The problem with Swisher goes much deeper than that. He was hitting .295 in mid-June of 2007. Since then he’s been a .227 hitter over a span of 932 at bats… that’s not a slump that’s prolonged mediocrity.

    He’s never had 150 hits, never hit better than .262 has topped 24 HR just once and has more career strikeouts than hits.

    To me, that’s a guy who gets to play too much.

  269. CountryClub May 19th, 2009 at 2:57 pm

    I’m not sure if the Delgado injury is exactly the same. But I never heard about anyone tearing a labrum in their hip before last year. Since then we’ve had Lowell, Utly, Arod and now Delgado. I’m pretty sure there was someone else this year too. Strange.

  270. Justin C May 19th, 2009 at 2:57 pm

    “Swisher’s defense has left A LOT to be desired.

    Nady is better than him in the field.”

    lol? i hope your kidding… nady has a terrible throwing arm and is extremely slow

  271. Steve B May 19th, 2009 at 2:58 pm

    “The differentials between those numbers are what separates average players from good players. That’s a big jump for any player.”

    True. Also true is Church’s numbers this year are well off of last year’s numbers, which is why he’s seeing a little more pine than he otherwise might.

  272. Laura - Win together, strike out alone! May 19th, 2009 at 2:58 pm

    “Mike was talking about Nick Johnson yesterday when the rumor came down about Delgado needing surgery.”

    Okay, so Pascarelli stole it from Francessa. Are there any original trade rumors in baseball? :)

  273. CountryClub May 19th, 2009 at 2:58 pm

    Jerry Manual is an awful manager. Or I should say he’s an awful in game manager. Can’t really speak for the rest.

  274. 86w183 May 19th, 2009 at 2:58 pm

    Francis — The Nationals have no rivals. When you are as bad as they are you only want to save money and acquire prospects and you don’t much care how you do it.

  275. Mad Max May 19th, 2009 at 2:59 pm

    Even when Swisher isin’t in a slump, he is a .240 hitter who walks a lot and strikes out a lot

    He has more strikeouts than hits.

    He is a very, very frustrating player. His best role is as a “super-sub”.

  276. Fran (the original) and OPPC member May 19th, 2009 at 2:59 pm

    m,

    Maybe if Boston would be desperate enough to pick either of them up

  277. Uncle Ellsworth (relax Chief) May 19th, 2009 at 3:00 pm

    Okay, so Pascarelli stole it from Francessa. Are there any original trade rumors in baseball?

    Yes! Nady and Shelley for Church.

  278. Brandon Pie "Because it's the thing to do in this stadium" May 19th, 2009 at 3:00 pm

    “Brandon is not acknowledging Xavier Nady corrections today ”

    I am, but srsly you can’t deny the Mets want him back, you can’t deny the Mets need a 1B, if you package a Miranda + Shelley w/ X (you know add 2 healthy bodies, well not Miranda yet but when he’s healthy) this could possibly get done.

  279. m May 19th, 2009 at 3:00 pm

    They’re supposedly expecting Delgado back in 2 months. But Olney has an article about tradewinds to replace Delgado, Rickie Weeks, and gasp! David Ortiz!

    Shall we trade Swisher to the Red Sox. ;)

  280. Oddessy May 19th, 2009 at 3:00 pm

    Neither Nady nor Swisher is good in the field

    It was funny though how people in the spring were trying to convince us how Swisher is some gold glove defender

  281. Laura - Win together, strike out alone! May 19th, 2009 at 3:02 pm

    “Yes! Nady and Shelley for Church.”

    Yes, that’s original. It’s pure fantasy, but original nonetheless. :)

  282. Y26 May 19th, 2009 at 3:02 pm

    So what would he Mets do with Johnson when Delgado comes back?

  283. Nick in SF May 19th, 2009 at 3:02 pm

    Uncle Ellsworth: glad it got there safely. There are some glitches and unfortunate noises on that recording, the show was pretty quiet so the recording levels had to be turned up high. You can hear the chairs creaking and stuff like that. But it mostly came out very well. Let me know if you need any help with the track listings (if they don’t show up).

  284. Steve B May 19th, 2009 at 3:03 pm

    “It was funny though how people in the spring were trying to convince us how Swisher is some gold glove defender”

    Think the consensus among the baseball taking heads was more along the lines of him being a little above average as a corner outfielder.

    Sadly, he hasn’t been to this point.

  285. Laura - Win together, strike out alone! May 19th, 2009 at 3:03 pm

    “It was funny though how people in the spring were trying to convince us how Swisher is some gold glove defender”

    What’s even worse is that I don’t think he’s all that great at 1B either, which he says is his best position. He’s better there than RF, but he’s no Tex. If he’s playing RF so poorly, can you imagine how bad he must have been in CF for Chicago last year? Scary thought!

  286. m May 19th, 2009 at 3:04 pm

    Maybe the mistake is giving Swisher too much playing time. It may expose him for what he really is. Which is a poor fielder and high K guy.

    But trotting him out there every game serves no purpose. Let’s concentrate on run prevention by putting both Cabrera and Gardner in the field.

    And then work Swish in to do what was originally planned. To spell Tex, Damon, and the RF.

  287. Uncle Ellsworth (relax Chief) May 19th, 2009 at 3:04 pm

    Ok Nick
    The Banter is priceless

  288. Nat May 19th, 2009 at 3:04 pm

    Can you imagine the outcry if Girardi referred to a player as “one of his guys”?

  289. Doreen May 19th, 2009 at 3:05 pm

    Y26 -

    By the time Delgado comes back, surely Nick Johnson would be ready to go on the DL in his place? :)

  290. Wave Your Hat May 19th, 2009 at 3:05 pm

    Career-wise, I don’t think Nady has been as good a defensive corner outfielder as Swisher.

    However, last year Nady was pretty decent defensively for the Yanks. And, it must be admitted, Swisher has made a few bad plays in RF this year.

    Most people who comment on here go by what they see, so that may explain the preference for Nady defensively.

    But realistically, is Nady going to be able to throw well when he comes back?

    So IMO the whole Nady’s defense vs. Swisher’s defense debate seems fairly pointless right now.

  291. Uncle Ellsworth (relax Chief) May 19th, 2009 at 3:05 pm

    Oh, and I owe you a fish taco or a beer

  292. Laura - Win together, strike out alone! May 19th, 2009 at 3:06 pm

    “So what would he Mets do with Johnson when Delgado comes back?”

    Good question – like when people were telling the Yankees to trade for Brandon Inge to cover 3B while Alex was out. You can’t get front line starters to replace temporary injured players. You’ve got to do patch work and use a second tier guy there. Unless you are planning on replacing the injured player for good, which the Mets could do as I think DelGado is on a one year deal.

  293. Gates May 19th, 2009 at 3:06 pm

    More Gardner AND Melky in the OF and less Swisher. Think the fresh legs and defense will do us some good

  294. Boston Dave (in Portland, OR) - OPPC member May 19th, 2009 at 3:06 pm

    dont be surprised if he Red Sox trade for Victor Martinez

    It might take Buchholz or Anderson/Bard but if Ortiz continues to struggle over the next month, they’ll make a move for sure.

    the Sox have chips and lots of $$$ to spend. Martinez could catch, play 1st, and replace Ortiz as the DH as needed.

  295. Steve B May 19th, 2009 at 3:06 pm

    “So IMO the whole Nady’s defense vs. Swisher’s defense debate seems fairly pointless right now”

    Like arguing which leper has the most fingers.

  296. H-Town May 19th, 2009 at 3:07 pm

    “Maybe the mistake is giving Swisher too much playing time. It may expose him for what he really is. Which is a poor fielder and high K guy.”

    Exactly. Once he goes back to being the super-sub, he’ll be fine.

  297. John in Ohio May 19th, 2009 at 3:07 pm

    Tomko needs to be kept around.

    Tomko = Dick Tidrow, who played multiple roles for Yankees’ managers of the 70s.

  298. Laura - Win together, strike out alone! May 19th, 2009 at 3:07 pm

    “So IMO the whole Nady’s defense vs. Swisher’s defense debate seems fairly pointless right now.”

    Perhaps, but the game doesn’t start for hours and we’ve got nothing else to talk about. So there ya go. :P

  299. Wave Your Hat May 19th, 2009 at 3:07 pm

    I certainly don’t buy playing Gardner over Swisher on any regular basis.

  300. Nick in SF May 19th, 2009 at 3:07 pm

    Brandon: I think I can deny that the Mets would want him back right now, not having a clue what he can give them. He has to show that he can swing a bat and produce to make any sense as a PH, and if he can’t play in the field, is he even close to being worth anything as a PH only? Forget the money, is he even worth the roster spot? Talk about Nady again in the middle of July.

    For now, just be happy that he was part of the trade that got rid of a terrible cancer that was burrowing into the organization from its lower depths. ;)

  301. Alex May 19th, 2009 at 3:08 pm

    Boston Dave,

    That’s what I’m afraid of– a bold move like that from BOS. They have the prospects, money, and need to go out and get some kind of big bat. They’re not going to wait around for Ortiz.

  302. no.27 May 19th, 2009 at 3:08 pm

    ““I’m not saying the guy is an all star, but he plays a solid RF…..”

    Sorry, I have to disagree here. I used to think that Swisher played a better RF than Nady, but I have changed my mind after watching him for most of this season. His RF is below average at best. I’d rather have Melky in RF than Swisher. I don’t like Nady there either as he is wicked slow to chase down balls. ”

    I didn’t say that Swisher was a better fielder than Nady, I’d say they are pretty much the same. I said he was a solid fielder. As in, he’s not going to win or lose you any games with his glove. So you’d rather have Melky in RF and who in CF? Gardner?

    It’s ridiculous the way people’s opinions change about a guy based on a few weeks.

    Gardner does well in spring training and everyone is ready to cut Melky. Now Melky starts off hot and his bat is good enough for RF.

    Swisher starts off hot and then goes through a slump and he goes from being superman to a bench player.

    People wanted Molina starting over Posada. Now they want Cervelli to be the backup catcher and have Molina, who was supposed to be better than Posada, to go down to AAA.

    Joba Chamberlain doesn’t start off the season on fire and someone says something along the lines of if he “doesn’t start pitching better the Yankees are going to have to make a serious decision in the next few weeks on whether or not he should stay in the rotation. And whatever decision they make they should stick with for his career.”

    And these are from people calling other people bridge jumpers. Get a grip. When Posada comes back, Swisher is like an 8 hitter on this team and will start for most of the season.

  303. Laura - Win together, strike out alone! May 19th, 2009 at 3:09 pm

    “the Sox have chips and lots of $$$ to spend. Martinez could catch, play 1st, and replace Ortiz as the DH as needed.”

    It’s possible if CLE decides to give up on this season. If they do, I’m with SJ44 and say that we try to get DeRosa away from them.

  304. Brandon Pie "Because it's the thing to do in this stadium" May 19th, 2009 at 3:10 pm

    “For now, just be happy that he was part of the trade that got rid of a terrible cancer that was burrowing into the organization from its lower depths. ;)

    Wang to China :twisted:

  305. Wave Your Hat May 19th, 2009 at 3:12 pm

    “Swisher is like an 8 hitter on this team and will start for most of the season.”

    And a fine #8 hitter he will be.

  306. Laura - Win together, strike out alone! May 19th, 2009 at 3:13 pm

    “I certainly don’t buy playing Gardner over Swisher on any regular basis.”

    I would. I’m a firm believer in playing the hot hand. Right now, Swisher is cold as ice. Gardy has been getting on base; more than Swisher has. You have to go with what’s working at the time. You can’t play guys based on what they might do or what they’ve done for you in the past. It would be one thing if Swish was slumping for a spell; he’s been in the deep freeze all month. How long are we supposed to wait him out?

    And for the record, if we were talking about Alex and he was mired in a slump as long as Swisher has, I’d say sit his butt too!

  307. rconn23 May 19th, 2009 at 3:14 pm

    Those knocking Nick Swisher might want to remember the Yankees traded him for Wilson Betemit. WILSON…BETEMIT.

    Swisher is a Moneyball type player. High .OBP, good power, doesn’t hit for high average, walks a ton and strikes out a ton.

    He is what he is. They still got him for pennies on the dollar.

  308. Ed - the new age of the Yankees is here May 19th, 2009 at 3:14 pm

    “It’s possible if CLE decides to give up on this season. If they do, I’m with SJ44 and say that we try to get DeRosa away from them.”

    and/or Shin Shoo Choo.

  309. Steve B May 19th, 2009 at 3:15 pm

    “If they do, I’m with SJ44 and say that we try to get DeRosa away from them.”

    The Tribe is going to be able to cash in on that one. I’d expect some real competition for his services.

  310. Wave Your Hat May 19th, 2009 at 3:16 pm

    Laura,

    I did say “on any regular basis”. I’m not opposed to sitting Swish for a game or two. But longer than that, I’m not in the Gardner camp.

  311. Nick in SF May 19th, 2009 at 3:16 pm

    How about Swisher just gets the day off that everyone has been wanting before we map out his future role on the team this season? Heck, he might break out of the slump on his own without the day off…

  312. Laura - Win together, strike out alone! May 19th, 2009 at 3:18 pm

    “I didn’t say that Swisher was a better fielder than Nady, I’d say they are pretty much the same. I said he was a solid fielder. As in, he’s not going to win or lose you any games with his glove. So you’d rather have Melky in RF and who in CF? Gardner?

    It’s ridiculous the way people’s opinions change about a guy based on a few weeks.”

    Correct me if I’m wrong, but this is Nick’s first stint as a Yankee. This is our first opportunity to get a look at him on a daily basis. People’s opinions can change based on the results they see being produced on the field. That’s true of everything, not just baseball. I thought that Swisher was the best choice for RF (even before Nady got hurt) based on his OBP. After seeing him on a regular basis, I’ve come to determine that I was wrong. The guy isn’t getting the job done. It is not ridiculous for me to change my mind based on actual events (like his God awful throws home). I’m not saying throw the guy in the trash. I’m saying sit him down for a spell and hope that he works the kinks out on his own. He clearly isn’t working them out on the field.

  313. Brandon Pie "Because it's the thing to do in this stadium" May 19th, 2009 at 3:18 pm

    Shin Shoo Choo is going to be sold really high.

  314. Wave Your Hat May 19th, 2009 at 3:20 pm

    “Heck, he [Swisher] might break out of the slump on his own without the day off…”

    He’ll break out of his slump sooner or later, hit a bunch of HRs and then he’ll be everyone’s fair-haired boy again and be forgiven his strikeouts. :)

  315. Ed - the new age of the Yankees is here May 19th, 2009 at 3:21 pm

    “Shin Shoo Choo is going to be sold really high.”

    oh definitely, Hughes to begin with. Unless Sharpio want to sell low, but hey what do i know? lol

  316. no.27 May 19th, 2009 at 3:21 pm

    I don’t think there’s anyone that doesn’t think Swisher should have a day off.

  317. trisha - OPPC member and proud of it May 19th, 2009 at 3:22 pm

    Thanks! My eye feels much better. I definitely had it in wrong.

    Does anyone else wear just one contact lens? I always find it amazing that the brain is tricked into thinking that both eyes are seeing the same way. So I end up with perfect vision with one contact lens.

  318. Steve B May 19th, 2009 at 3:22 pm

    “Shin Shoo Choo is going to be sold really high.”

    He’s a cheapie for awhile, isn’t he? I’d think the Tribe will try to hold on to him.

  319. Scranton May 19th, 2009 at 3:23 pm

    Veras needs to go. This should not even be up for debate.

  320. Nick in SF May 19th, 2009 at 3:23 pm

    I was calling for a day off for Swisher in February. Check the archives!

  321. m May 19th, 2009 at 3:24 pm

    I don’t think anyone’s knocking Swisher.

    But when some of us say we’d rather see Gardner in the field it’s because he’s a better outfielder. And even when Gardner doesn’t hit, he can still impact a game.

    Nick,

    We’ve been calling for a day off for Swish since forever. I wonder if his elbow is still bothering him? We all want to see Jolly St. Nick (Swisher).

  322. Bman May 19th, 2009 at 3:24 pm

    Ya know? I heard him say that when I was listening to the game on 880 and I almost didn’t believe it. I actually stopped what I was doing and listened to the interview

  323. Laura - Win together, strike out alone! May 19th, 2009 at 3:25 pm

    “I don’t think there’s anyone that doesn’t think Swisher should have a day off.”

    Agreed.

  324. Al from BK May 19th, 2009 at 3:26 pm

    Great stuff Sam.

  325. Laura - Win together, strike out alone! May 19th, 2009 at 3:26 pm

    “I don’t think anyone’s knocking Swisher.”

    Um, well … wasn’t I sort of knocking him when I implied that he wasn’t the second coming of Dave Winfield? :)

  326. Nick in SF May 19th, 2009 at 3:27 pm

    I remember watching Swisher play back when he was with Oakland. I remember saying to my brother “I’d like to see him in pinstripes someday, but he’s really going to need a day off.”

    My brother agreed.

  327. Rishi May 19th, 2009 at 3:29 pm

    “What is the toughest division in baseball”

    http://mlb.mlb.com/news/articl.....8;c_id=mlb

  328. trisha - OPPC member and proud of it May 19th, 2009 at 3:29 pm

    “Veras needs to go. This should not even be up for debate.”

    At some point it may not be, and maybe at this point it isn’t; but you do know, don’t you that the Yankees have been really high on Veras and that the commentators talk about how great Veras’ stuff is but that his control is his main issue. With that pedigree it may be that the Yankees believe they can fix the control stuff, especially because he was pretty effective for them last season.

    When you are looking at a marathon and not a sprint, lots of things about which impatient fans are inconsolable don’t have the same ring of “truth” to the organization.

    That said, the rest remains to be seen.

  329. klem May 19th, 2009 at 3:31 pm

    Brandon Pie “Because it’s the thing to do in this stadium” May 19th, 2009 at 3:10 pm

    Wang to China :twisted:
    =====

    This is no brainer… Wang is not a Chinese…

  330. Steve B May 19th, 2009 at 3:32 pm

    “I was calling for a day off for Swisher in February. Check the archives!”

    Big deal Nick. You’re still way behind the curve. One Oswaldo Jose Guillen was calling for Swisher to get a day off last October.

  331. Scranton May 19th, 2009 at 3:33 pm

    Trisha im all for trying to work out his kinks. A one or two run ballgame is not the place.

  332. Brandon Pie "Because it's the thing to do in this stadium" May 19th, 2009 at 3:33 pm

    “This is no brainer… Wang is not a Chinese…”

    It was a JOKE ! Jesus :x

  333. Doreen May 19th, 2009 at 3:34 pm

    Trisha –

    I don’t wear one lens, but I do wear one lens for far vision and one for near. It’s absolutely amazing how both eyes then work in tandem. Not everyone can do this successfully; I’m ecstatic that I can. I bought myself contact lenses with my first major paycheck at the age of 19. It would be devastating to have to wear glasses all the time.

    Now I have an issue with being able to create enough tears, which affects your ability to wear lenses. My doctor recommended flax seed or flax oil capsules and he said over time, I would notice I could tolerate the lenses much better. He said it would take about 3 months to notice the difference. I had already been incorporating flax seed into my diet, so I added the capsules and lo and behold, I wore my lenses this week with no problems whatsoever. I choose to wear my glasses if I’m not going out for the day, but like I said earlier, it’s one thing to make a choice and another when you are forced into doing something you wish you didn’t have to.

    My eyes are also not candidates for the laser surgery. In any event, I’m a little squeamish about such a procedure. Even though sticking my fingers in my eyes for the better part of my life was fine by me!

  334. no.27 May 19th, 2009 at 3:34 pm

    “Correct me if I’m wrong, but this is Nick’s first stint as a Yankee. This is our first opportunity to get a look at him on a daily basis. People’s opinions can change based on the results they see being produced on the field. That’s true of everything, not just baseball. I thought that Swisher was the best choice for RF (even before Nady got hurt) based on his OBP. After seeing him on a regular basis, I’ve come to determine that I was wrong. The guy isn’t getting the job done. It is not ridiculous for me to change my mind based on actual events (like his God awful throws home). I’m not saying throw the guy in the trash. I’m saying sit him down for a spell and hope that he works the kinks out on his own. He clearly isn’t working them out on the field.”

    1, There’s a difference between arguing that Swisher is a bench player, which is what the conversation has been about and saying he needs a few games on the bench. I’m saying that Nick Swisher has the talent to be an everyday player. I’ve said several times that I think he needs a game off.

    Why would anyone have a problem with a player getting a game off??

    2, I think my post was clear, but I guess not. What I think is ridiculous is for someone to go from saying that Melky’s offense isn’t strong enough to be a centerfielder or even a 4th outfielder to saying that he should be the everyday right fielder based on 30 something games. The other things I listed that you left out of the quote are ridiculous as well.

    This sort of confuses your argument though. On one hand you’re saying you want Swisher to be benched for a few games to get out of the slump that he’s in. On the other hand you’re saying that you haven’t been able to see Swisher play before and you were expecting a much better player. Despite this slump, he’s still hitting around his career averages. What were you expecting out of him?

  335. Nick in SF May 19th, 2009 at 3:34 pm

    “This is no brainer… Wang is not a Chinese…”

    Brandon dislikes Wang so much, he wants to send Wang to the Laogai even though Wang is Taiwanese. :(

  336. Al from BK May 19th, 2009 at 3:37 pm

    I think Edwar goes.

  337. Brandon Pie "Because it's the thing to do in this stadium" May 19th, 2009 at 3:37 pm

    Nick I’d put him in a crate :lol:

  338. Import Knight May 19th, 2009 at 3:37 pm

    Go out and get Victor Martinez AND Chin Su-Choo

  339. pat May 19th, 2009 at 3:38 pm

    Don’t know if anyone posted this already. Lou Merloni vindicated by Gammons in his blog by an unnamed source:

    “Former big league infielder Lou Merloni caused a stir when he mentioned on a Comcast show in Boston that in 2001 a doctor addressed the Red Sox in spring training and suggested that if taken correctly, steroids could be helpful. Merloni has been hammered publicly, and then-GM Dan Duquette denied it. But a former major leaguer who was in camp that spring training corroborated Merloni’s story and says: “I’m not sure of the name of the doctor; he was someone outside the Boston organization. In no way did I think Boston was trying to push steroids; I think they just wanted to educate us on the subject. But you could tell by the faces on the training staff that they didn’t think the doctor would say the things he did.”

  340. Justin C May 19th, 2009 at 3:39 pm

    i went to yankee stadium last night for the 1st time and i must say i miss the old stadium…..

    no electricity… it feels like a church during communion
    and the upper deck seats are awful

  341. Bill May 19th, 2009 at 3:41 pm

    I remember watching Swisher’s dad play for the Cubs back in the day and thinking’ “If he ever has a son playing MLB, his son is gonna need a day off.” :)

  342. Brandon Pie "Because it's the thing to do in this stadium" May 19th, 2009 at 3:43 pm

    “Import Knight
    May 19th, 2009 at 3:37 pm
    Go out and get Victor Martinez AND Chin Su-Choo”

    So your bringing the gun ?

  343. Rishi May 19th, 2009 at 3:44 pm

    game post up

  344. Brandon Pie "Because it's the thing to do in this stadium" May 19th, 2009 at 3:45 pm

    Why is it that SNY lands the hottest hosts first Julie Alexandra now Alexi Panos …YES is sleeping.

  345. Steve B May 19th, 2009 at 3:45 pm

    Pat:

    Latest scuttlebut on these educational doctors’ visits is that they were initiated by the MLBPA.

    Heard an interview of Duquette last week (Merloni was one of the interviewers) and he did not deny that such an epsisode took place. Merloni did some minimal backtracking making it clear it was not a team doctor and steroid use was in no way encouraged, merely discussed. Duquette seemed to back that version of Merloni’s statement.

  346. Nick in SF May 19th, 2009 at 3:45 pm

    That’s good, Bill. It reminds me of an anecdote our own GB7 likes to tell, when he he had a chat with Abner Doubleday and they contemplated Nick Swisher’s hypothetical future and his need for a day off.

  347. Laura - Win together, strike out alone! May 19th, 2009 at 3:47 pm

    “2, I think my post was clear, but I guess not. What I think is ridiculous is for someone to go from saying that Melky’s offense isn’t strong enough to be a centerfielder or even a 4th outfielder to saying that he should be the everyday right fielder based on 30 something games. The other things I listed that you left out of the quote are ridiculous as well.”

    Dude or dudette, you’ve got me confused with someone else. I rarely discuss Melky so I’m quite sure that I never said that he shouldn’t be the everyday CF. I like Gardy more than Melky and probably said that I prefer Gardy over Melky, but I’ve never been a campaigner for throwing Melky away.

    “This sort of confuses your argument though. On one hand you’re saying you want Swisher to be benched for a few games to get out of the slump that he’s in. On the other hand you’re saying that you haven’t been able to see Swisher play before and you were expecting a much better player. Despite this slump, he’s still hitting around his career averages. What were you expecting out of him?”

    I saw Swisher when he was with OAK, which seems like a decade ago. I also caught him a few games when he was with CWS. Seeing a player when he’s visiting your team is quite a bit different than seeing him everyday when he’s playing for your team. I believed that his year with CWS was an anomaly based on the fact that he was miserable playing for Ozzie (who wouldn’t be, actually?) and it affected his play. I expected him to come back closer to his OAK numbers, which if memory serves, were better than what he’s doing now. I did not expect as many strikeouts as we are getting. I also didn’t expect the poor fielding. I bet if you asked Nick, he wasn’t expecting it either.

  348. trisha - OPPC member and proud of it May 19th, 2009 at 3:51 pm

    “Trisha im all for trying to work out his kinks. A one or two run ballgame is not the place.”

    I can totally respect that perspective. I am always able to transcend the obvious emotions that go with questioning the seeming sanity of a decision and just root for the player to succeed – but I do realize that’s not the norm – certainly not here!

    :)

    D – funny you should mention that. I had my appointment with the eye doctor yesterday and he was mentioning that only 30% of all people can use the two “opposing” contacts successfully! I would have thought that it would work on everyone. I only need the one but if I ever needed both I would have no way of knowing if it would actually work.

  349. Clare May 19th, 2009 at 3:54 pm

    I think the yankee-haters in the media are focusing way too much on the negative at the new stadium. I love the new place. I’ve already been to 7 games (including all 3 walkoffs last weekend) and it’s a big improvement. I’ve had tickets in the grandstand, the Jim Beam Suite, and field level, and they were all amazing. The staff are much friendlier and more helpful. The seats are more comfortable and there is much more legroom. The numbering is much better, so you don’t have people bothering you all games because they can’t find their seat (the Terrace Boxes in the old place were the worst).

    The walkways and the logistics are so much better there’s no comparison. I used to get scared sometimes coming down those ramps in the old place after a close Red Sox game, because everyone was crammed into the ramps with nowhere to go. If there was a fight nearby you were in trouble. The new place is so much safer and more pleasant.

    All in all I think it’s a huge improvement, and as pat said above, it takes time to work out the kinks.

  350. trisha - OPPC member and proud of it May 19th, 2009 at 4:01 pm

    Clare – nice to look at the positive. Good for you.

  351. GreenBeret7 May 19th, 2009 at 4:07 pm

    Boston Dave (in Portland, OR) – OPPC member
    May 19th, 2009 at 2:01 pm
    Casey Fossum is tearing up the minors for the Yanks so far too – almost a K per inning and a 1.72 ERA.

    ————————————————————

    Such vularities will get your posting priviledges revoked.

  352. GreenBeret7 May 19th, 2009 at 4:16 pm

    Boston Dave (in Portland, OR) – OPPC member
    May 19th, 2009 at 2:15 pm
    “Is there anyone else in the minors that we can look forward to helping our in the pen sometime in the future?”
    ————
    that’s a question better asked to SJ44 or GB7.

    at least during spring training, I would have said the Yankees had more potential bullpen depth in the minors that they’d know what to do with. now? well, you know…

    ————————————————————

    There are a lot of them that could be shifted to relief, but, it depends on who’s in the rotation. As much as I would hate to see it, Wilkins De La Rosa would be a selection. He did the set up role for half of last year, but, he’s way roo inexperienced as a pitcher, but, damned what a left handed arm in the rotation. McAllister, and even Brackman may be well suited for that role down the line.

  353. Mikey S May 19th, 2009 at 5:13 pm

    FIRE LONN TROST
    ltrost@yankees.com
    718 293 4300

  354. saucy May 19th, 2009 at 5:46 pm

    i have no issues with the stadium. i think we just live in an age where complaining, whining, and even protesting is the cool thing to do. by both the media and everyone else.

    GET OUTRAGED!!!

  355. bru May 19th, 2009 at 6:06 pm

    At some point it may not be, and maybe at this point it isn’t; but you do know, don’t you that the Yankees have been really high on Veras and that the commentators talk about how great Veras’ stuff is but that his control is his main issue. With that pedigree it may be that the Yankees believe they can fix the control stuff, especially because he was pretty effective for them last season
    ———————————————————–

    great.another farnsworth.

  356. AllPro May 20th, 2009 at 4:22 pm

    Regarding the Lopez comments which I did not hear; I wouldn’t be at all suprised if Hal and Hank have asked him to take on a more visible role to extinguish the PR fire that Levine and Trost started. Also wouldn’t be suprised if Levine and Trost are put back in their cages or fired. When the Yankees ownership thinks your sounding too arrogant you know there’s a problem. Say what you want about George, but he would consistently go out of his way in his comments to say how important the fans are and that they deserved the best baseball product and experience at Yankee sadium.

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